vg|14th Red Bull WBS-Rosenblum-BBO4,SW 6_8,I,8,14,FORMIDABLES,0,DIAMOND,0| rs|3SS-2,3CE-2,4HE+1,4HE-1,4SWx-1,3NWx-1,2HS-2,4SE-2,3NE-2,3NE=,1NS-2,2SW+1,6HS-1,4SEx-1| pn|TEWARI,HAMPSON,BALAKRISHN,GRECO,BRINK,NARAYANA,DRIJVER,NADAR|pg|| qx|o8|st||md|2SAQ98543H742DQCJ5,SJT6HT8DAK3CAK983,SHAQ63DJT9875CT64,SK72HKJ95D642CQ72|sv|o|nt|pelu: so 3@C show 5 card suit - I didnt see alerts|pg|| nt|TopWizard: We have a new set of Ops this week . . . all learning . . . |pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|TopWizard: Operator?|pg|| mb|3S|nt|kit: it doesn't "show" 5 clubs as such. He could have 6.|pg|| mb|p|nt|kit: Hi everybody|pg|| nt|TopWizard: 1nt = 14-16|pg|| mb|p|nt|buddyshah: Hi friends Formidables had a 20-0 win last roun..and texan aces won by 25 imps vs Monaco|pg|| nt|kit: Greco chose not to make a move opposite the 14-16 with his 4-3-3-3, no aces or 10's. I agree.|pg|| nt|TopWizard: Something is amiss here|pg|| nt|kit: operator -- we need the next board -- it isn't up.|pg|| mb|p|pc|cA|nt|pelu: I dont understand why Hampson bid over 2@D (= 1 suited major) on a 5 card @c ???|pg|| mc|7|nt|TopWizard: Peter - Hampson is Hampson, very free-wheeling|pg|| nt|blackened: Hi all!|pg|| nt|kit: He wanted to shut the major suit out before North knows what it is. I like his call.|pg|| pg|| qx|c8|st||md|2SAQ98543H742DQCJ5,SJT6HT8DAK3CAK983,SHAQ63DJT9875CT64,SK72HKJ95D642CQ72|sv|o|nt|TopWizard: Hello all!|pg|| nt|TopWizard: Operator, who is E and W?|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pc|d9|pc|d2|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h7|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d4|pc|c5|pc|d3|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|d8|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sT|pc|c4|pc|s7|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d6|pc|cJ|pc|dK|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sJ|pc|c6|pc|sK|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|o9|st||md|3SK9842HT93DJ7CQ73,SAJ6HAJDAKT962CK9,SQ7HQ5DQ4CAJ86542,ST53HK87642D853CT|sv|e|nt|TopWizard: So the Op lost the play, and hopefully on to the next hand :)|pg|| nt|TopWizard: Presumably another "claim"|pg|| mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|cT|pg|| nt|vugraphzbh: i am here|pg|| nt|pelu: yes the operator try to carch - prob Traian is there to help him|pg|| nt|TopWizard: Op doesn't know, unfortunately, how to enter a new hand and also enter previous scores . . . |pg|| nt|vugraphzbh: yes its me|pg|| nt|vugraphzbh: i am live now|pg|| nt|pelu: so I was right - Traian is there :)|pg|| nt|bebechira: ok back to my desk|pg|| nt|pelu: and in few minutes a new call :(:(|pg|| nt|bebechira: it is 5pm here...and it is the time when the connection between china and outside is getting very bad|pg|| pc|cJ|nt|bebechira: but i had 2 coffees so ready to run around|pg|| nt|TopWizard: Greco should lose a @h and possibly a @s|pg|| pc|h2|pc|c3|pc|c9|pg|| nt|TopWizard: Now AK of @h's and run (fortunately) the @d's|pg|| nt|TopWizard: Running Scores: http://www.worldbridge.org/repository/tourn/sanya.14/microsite/RunningScores/Asp/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?qtournid=1031&qshowflag=1|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|h5|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d5|pc|d7|pg|| nt|TopWizard: Nice "safety" will lead towards @dK in a bit|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|h9|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|dQ|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c9|st||md|3SK9842HT93DJ7CQ73,SAJ6HAJDAKT962CK9,SQ7HQ5DQ4CAJ86542,ST53HK87642D853CT|sv|e|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dJ|pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d5|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|h3|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h9|pc|hA|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dQ|pc|d3|pc|d7|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s3|pc|s8|pc|sA|pg|| pc|dK|pc|c2|pc|d8|pc|hT|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s6|pc|s7|pc|s5|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|cT|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o10|st||md|4S85H943DT9842C732,SA97432HDQJ75CAKQ,SQJT6HAQT5DAKCT54,SKHKJ8762D63CJ986|sv|b|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|nt|TopWizard: At the other table, East "ducked" a @d surprisingly|pg|| nt|TopWizard: On the last board!|pg|| mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|TopWizard: N may X and did|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|d5|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d8|pc|d7|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sK|pc|s5|pc|s2|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|s3|pc|h5|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|h6|pc|s8|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sJ|mc|9|pg|| qx|c10|st||md|4S85H943DT9842C732,SA97432HDQJ75CAKQ,SQJT6HAQT5DAKCT54,SKHKJ8762D63CJ986|sv|b|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|s5|pc|s2|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c4|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sT|pc|h2|pc|s8|pg|| nt|offthebend: hi everybody |pg|| nt|buddyshah: Welcome guruji :)|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c8|pc|c7|nt|offthebend: MULTI 2@D didn't quite work here |pg|| pc|cK|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s6|nt|offthebend: how did NADAR manage to go down in 4@H on dl 9 ? |pg|| pc|h6|nt|offthebend: Weak 2@H opening - W can bid natural 2@H as forcing -- may or may not be able to stop in a part score anyway |pg|| nt|offthebend: sry NATURAL 2@S over 2@H|pg|| pc|h3|pg|| nt|offthebend: other table did go down in 4@Sx but here W will lose more than 200 I am sure |pg|| pc|s4|pc|sQ|nt|TopWizard: Maybe not|pg|| pc|d3|pc|c3|pg|| nt|offthebend: I suppose 3NT also goes only 1 down |pg|| pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|h4|pc|d5|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d2|pc|d7|pg|| pc|dK|pc|h8|pc|d4|pc|dJ|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o11|st||md|1S76HKT864D64CK965,SQ942HQJ73DAQ32C3,SKJTHA2DT95CAQJ74,SA853H95DKJ87CT82|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|nt|kit: If South raises, West can make a takeout double since he is limited -- East won't play him for a strong hand.|pg|| nt|kit: This 2@H call gives North a problem|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|TopWizard: S is a passed hand . . . so very limited|pg|| pc|s4|nt|kit: This contract would have depended on the spade guess|pg|| nt|pelu: and as a passed hand 2@h sh promise @c-fit|pg|| nt|kit: but the opening lead may guess it for him|pg|| nt|pelu: 3@c is the safe spot|pg|| nt|kit: Unless his is suspicious that West would underlead the ace -- which he well could here.|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s6|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d4|pc|dQ|pc|d5|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d9|pc|d8|pc|d6|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dT|pc|dK|nt|pelu: but he know that East prob have @dK (no @d lead from W), so not with odds also to play for @sA :)|pg|| pc|h4|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|h5|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h9|pc|hK|pc|h7|pg|| nt|kit: good point|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hJ|pc|c4|pc|s5|pg|| nt|kit: and now he will go down 2, playing for hearts to split 3-3 as his only chance to make|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|c7|pc|c2|pc|hT|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sT|pc|s3|pc|s7|pg|| pc|d3|pc|cJ|pc|dJ|pc|c5|pg|| mc|6|nt|TopWizard: S also had a choice to bid 3@c|pg|| pg|| qx|c11|st||md|1S76HKT864D64CK965,SQ942HQJ73DAQ32C3,SKJTHA2DT95CAQJ74,SA853H95DKJ87CT82|sv|o|nt|offthebend: @C lead would have been better for the defence |pg|| mb|p|mb|1D|mb|2C|mb|d|mb|4C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|4D|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|offthebend: that will be another 5 imps at least to Diamond team |pg|| pc|c6|nt|offthebend: got away Undoubled :)|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|c2|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h4|nt|offthebend: E should have just bid 2@D over 2@C |pg|| pc|h3|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h9|pc|hK|pc|h7|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hJ|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s6|pc|s9|pc|sT|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s8|pc|s7|pc|s2|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o12|st||md|2SJ732HJ8DQT8CQ752,SQ96HK95D42CK9864,S85HQ732DAK753CT3,SAKT4HAT64DJ96CAJ|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|nt|TopWizard: 1@h = 5-8 HCP|pg|| nt|pelu: Gary can u explain the bidding|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|kit: He will probably avoid the diamond lead, but that won't be good enough probably|pg|| nt|pelu: or Kit|pg|| nt|kareno: I imagine that was puppet or similar|pg|| nt|kit: probably 2C asks for 5-card major, 2D denies one|pg|| pc|s2|nt|TopWizard: 1@c = 16+ unbal. or 17+ bal.|pg|| nt|pelu: and 1@h?|pg|| nt|kit: 1@H balanced 8-10 I think|pg|| nt|TopWizard: 1@h also is often 5-8 HCP|pg|| nt|kit: Spade lead gives declarer 8, but I don't realistically see what he can do but taking losing club finesse|pg|| nt|pelu: @sQ and @c to the J?|pg|| nt|kit: But he should win 9 of spades and take club finesse immediately, before defense knows anything|pg|| nt|kareno: he likely will take a losing club fitnesse|pg|| nt|kit: I think he has to play 9 -- may need 4 spade tricks|pg|| pc|s9|nt|kit: if Qxxx of clubs onside|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s4|pg|| nt|kareno: Peter he needs to win the spade 9|pg|| nt|pelu: why @s8 ? when i cant overtake then give suit preference: @s5 = @d|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c3|nt|kit: probably they play count here, for better or worse|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pg|| nt|TopWizard: Some play "forced count" there, I never understood it|pg|| nt|kit: Now the defense has to get it very right|pg|| nt|pelu: who is interested in could here - for sure not S|pg|| nt|pelu: count|pg|| nt|kit: South could well need the count in spades|pg|| nt|TopWizard: Hi Karen! :)|pg|| nt|pelu: S know that decl max has 4 card @s - and with only very few HCP he need suit prefence signal - and N sh know also|pg|| nt|kareno: hi all from beautiful Sydney|pg|| nt|kit: but South doesn't know that North knows all that -- you can't change meanings of signals midstream without risking a mixup|pg|| nt|TopWizard: The Diamond team engine is working on all cylinders now|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d2|nt|kit: Anyway, seems like diamond shift has to be only way to beat contract, or at least most likely way|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d6|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|d4|pg|| pc|dT|nt|kit: Now North must underlead, which shouldn't be difficult|pg|| nt|TopWizard: S could see 4@s tricks and 4@c tricks|pg|| nt|kit: well done by the defenders|pg|| nt|pelu: No but geneal when u cant overtake - then 2 options: count or suit prefence - and at the table u have to decide: what signal di pd wont - its difficult but defense is hard|pg|| nt|kareno: Indeed!|pg|| nt|TopWizard: WD|pg|| mc|7|nt|kit: Heart shift would have been right only if North had AQ10xx|pg|| pg|| qx|c12|st||md|2SJ732HJ8DQT8CQ752,SQ96HK95D42CK9864,S85HQ732DAK753CT3,SAKT4HAT64DJ96CAJ|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s3|pc|s6|pc|s5|pc|s4|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c3|pc|cJ|pc|c2|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c6|pc|cT|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s7|pc|sQ|pc|s8|pg|| pc|cK|pc|d3|pc|d6|pc|c7|pg|| pc|s9|nt|offthebend: IMPS coming for formidables here -- badly needed |pg|| nt|offthebend: rare mistake by Brink when he ducked the @C |pg|| pc|h7|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sJ|pc|h5|pc|d5|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h8|pc|hK|pc|h2|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|hJ|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o13|st||md|3ST9HQ2DKT7432CT82,SAKQ86H743D85CJ96,SJ42HAK965DJ6CK54,S753HJT8DAQ9CAQ73|sv|b|mb|1H|mb|p|nt|pelu: when opp open 12-14 NT then D sh be 14+|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|TopWizard: Other table also, of course, in 3NT with @s lead on Board 12|pg|| nt|pelu: sorry wrong comment :(:( - more coffee for me :(|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s2|pc|s7|pc|s9|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s4|pc|s5|pc|sT|pg|| pc|sA|pc|sJ|pc|s3|pc|d2|pg|| nt|kareno: actually I play the double stronger than the opener's range|pg|| pc|s8|pc|d6|nt|TopWizard: Many play top of range +|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d3|pg|| pc|s6|pc|dJ|pc|h8|pc|d4|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c2|pg|| nt|TopWizard: So -200 presuming Declarer knows the @c position|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c8|pc|c6|pc|c4|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d7|pc|d5|pc|h5|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cT|pc|c9|pc|c5|pg|| mc|5|pg|| qx|c13|st||md|3ST9HQ2DKT7432CT82,SAKQ86H743D85CJ96,SJ42HAK965DJ6CK54,S753HJT8DAQ9CAQ73|sv|b|mb|1H|mb|d|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hA|nt|offthebend: NADAR is in bidding mood :) Doubling on such a hand normally backfires |pg|| pc|h8|pc|h2|pc|h3|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hT|pc|hQ|pc|h4|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hJ|pc|s9|pc|h7|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s3|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|s5|pc|d3|pg|| nt|offthebend: W will make 110/140 and still lose 2/3 imps |pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sJ|pc|s7|pc|d2|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c4|pc|cQ|nt|offthebend: 140 it will be |pg|| pc|c2|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|c9|pc|c5|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cT|pc|cJ|pc|cK|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o14|st||md|4S2HJT753DT72CAQ74,SAQJ987HQ6D63C953,SKHK98DAKQJCKJT82,ST6543HA42D9854C6|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|d|mb|4S|nt|TopWizard: At other table on Board 12, Brink *ducked* the @c off dummy to Declarer's J|pg|| nt|pelu: B12: Brink ducked the @c to J and then 9 tricks - also @s-lead|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|nt|kit: Tough problem for N-S|pg|| nt|pelu: 0.01 faster than me, Gary :)|pg|| nt|kit: Yes -- I haven't worked out what he was playing for, but I'm sure he had some reason|pg|| nt|TopWizard: And you're awake, Peter :)|pg|| nt|pelu: Now N can bid 4Nt for minor|pg|| nt|kit: North can, but 4 tricks might be easier than 11|pg|| nt|kit: 5@C happens to make with queen of hearts onside and no bad splits|pg|| nt|kareno: if he chooses to bid Peter|pg|| mb|5N|nt|TopWizard: Running Score: http://www.worldbridge.org/repository/tourn/sanya.14/microsite/RunningScores/Asp/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?qtournid=1031&qshowflag=1|pg|| nt|pelu: wow - that for sure an overbid|pg|| nt|TopWizard: Oh, MY|pg|| nt|kareno: North fell too in love with his hand|pg|| nt|TopWizard: The @sK can be mesmerizing :(|pg|| nt|pelu: so we were on Pass or 4NT - N decided to go all Inn :)|pg|| nt|kit: Maybe South is the overbidder doubling 4@S|pg|| nt|kareno: but it is a loser|pg|| nt|TopWizard: W opens Multi at other table|pg|| mb|p|nt|kareno: will East take insurance?|pg|| mb|6H|mb|p|nt|kit: From East's point of view 6@S could go for 800 or more -- he won't be bidding|pg|| mb|p|nt|TopWizard: E now 3@h P/C|pg|| mb|p|pc|sA|nt|pelu: if he does then his compagny will for sure drop his insurence contract :)|pg|| pc|sK|nt|TopWizard: P - 4@h by N (other table)|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s2|pg|| nt|TopWizard: Now 4@s X at other table, should be -100|pg|| nt|TopWizard: Diamond-Fleischer-Lavazza now 4-5-6|pg|| nt|pelu: lets lok at Ns problem - to make a slam he need 2 aces + active Q from a passed hand - for sure not with odds - a bad gamble|pg|| mc|11|nt|kit: I agree|pg|| nt|TopWizard: Nickell now 12th|pg|| nt|kareno: as I said earlier, north fell too much in love with his hand|pg|| nt|kit: And really costly with result at other table|pg|| pg|| qx|c14|st||md|4S2HJT753DT72CAQ74,SAQJ987HQ6D63C953,SKHK98DAKQJCKJT82,ST6543HA42D9854C6|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|nt|offthebend: last hand to redeem something |pg|| mb|2D|mb|d|mb|3H|mb|p|nt|offthebend: 4@S is a good scarifice here against 5@C or 4@H |pg|| mb|p|nt|offthebend: :) |pg|| mb|4H|mb|4S|nt|offthebend: W is happy going 50 a trick in 3@H opposite a Passed hand :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|sK|pc|s3|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c8|pc|c6|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| mc|9|nt|offthebend: 6@H in the open room -- a bit too much opposite a passed hand and only Kxx in @H as support |pg|| nt|offthebend: 5NT was to pick a minor suit slam :)|pg|| pg||