vg|14th Red Bull WBS-Rosenblum-BBO2,SFA 7_8,I,15,21,LAVAZZA,0,VITAS,0| rs|4SN-2,4HN-1,7HNx-3,5HNx-1,4HS-1,4HS-2,6DN=,3NN+1,2SS-1,2SS-2,1HN+1,1HN+1,6SE=,6SE=| pn|ZIA,OLANSKI,DUBOIN,V VAINIKON,SKRZYPCZAK,MUZZIO,GIERULSKI,BIANCHEDI|pg|| qx|o15|st||md|1SJ987HK8765DK95CQ,S42HAQTDJ632CT864,SAKQ3HJ93D74CAK92,ST65H42DAQT8CJ753|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|fabsayc: down on heart lead|pg|| pc|c3|nt|TopWizard: Hello Martin!|pg|| nt|fabsayc: hi Gary|pg|| nt|fabsayc: still not easy, a lot of work to do|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c8|pc|c2|pg|| nt|fabsayc: he has to draw trumps and play on hearts|pg|| nt|fabsayc: without taking discards on clubs|pg|| nt|Walddk2: We have voice commentary in this room. http://webutil.bridgebase.com/v2/news_fetch.php?id=743 for instructions if you are not familiar with the voice procedure.|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|s6|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s2|pc|sQ|pc|s5|pg|| pc|sA|pc|sT|pc|s7|pc|d2|pg|| nt|TopWizard: As being mentioned, important to note that BBO IMP scores and play records are excellent, but not guaranteed. Sometimes the record is not exactly what happened when play goes very quickly|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h4|pc|h6|pc|hQ|pg|| nt|fabsayc: now down|pg|| nt|pelu: now down|pg|| nt|fabsayc: it is an interesting card combination|pg|| nt|fabsayc: because of the intermediate heart spots|pg|| nt|TopWizard: @h Q or 10 onside even odds I think|pg|| nt|TopWizard: Even to A onside or Q onside|pg|| nt|fabsayc: heart jack was probably the % play|pg|| nt|TopWizard: N had the problem of always being in hand and little access to dummy|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|d5|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c7|pc|d9|pc|c6|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h2|pc|h5|nt|TopWizard: It seems that the hand you are in makes the decision for you as how to play the @h suit|pg|| pc|hT|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c9|pc|cJ|pc|s9|pg|| mc|8|nt|fabsayc: a kibitzer is saying heart 9 for triple finesse|pg|| nt|TopWizard: That leaves a guess|pg|| pg|| qx|c15|st||md|1SJ987HK8765DK95CQ,S42HAQTDJ632CT864,SAKQ3HJ93D74CAK92,ST65H42DAQT8CJ753|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s5|pc|s7|pc|s4|pc|sA|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h4|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|sT|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hQ|pc|h9|pc|h2|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d7|pc|dA|pc|d5|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s8|pc|hT|pc|sQ|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o16|st||md|2SA62HAT95DQJT32CT,SKT74HDAK87CAQ653,S3HQJ8764D95CKJ87,SQJ985HK32D64C942|sv|e|nt|fabsayc: it does seem wrong to me, but at 3:25 am i wont argue|pg|| mb|1C|mb|2H|mb|2S|nt|pelu: the real fight is not at the top-tables only 10 VP from No 23 to 43 in fight for the 27 places in KO|pg|| nt|TopWizard: Certainly agree with Voice discussion on "negative free bids"|pg|| mb|4C!|nt|TopWizard: Note N's 2@h NV overcall - important to make a weak-2 any time you have one|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|nt|TopWizard: Running Scores: http://www.worldbridge.org/repository/tourn/sanya.14/microsite/RunningScores/Asp/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?qtournid=1063&qshowflag=1|pg|| mb|4S|mb|5H|mb|6S|nt|pelu: ok figgt on the 5-level 5@h down 2 on best defense and 5@s cant make - 3 black losers|pg|| nt|fabsayc: just as i was going to praise non forcing free bids|pg|| nt|fabsayc: you do need to discuss the lower limit|pg|| nt|pelu: give East @cK and not @hK and 6 @s on :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|fabsayc: yes i can see why olanski bid as he did|pg|| mb|7H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|nt|fabsayc: but he could have tried 5h as second slam try|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|pelu: in CR EW missed the defnse against 5@h D only down 1 - down 2 on a !§d-ruff with @hK|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|s4|pc|h6|pg|| nt|pelu: another misbid by Zia - we had almost the same situation in last match: over 5@h ( down 500-800) he bid 6@c with no play|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h2|pc|h9|pc|c5|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|s7|pg|| pc|d2|nt|fabsayc: it has been suggested that duboin double 6@S|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d4|pg|| nt|fabsayc: but it may be a negative slam double|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c8|nt|pelu: but prob N sh D 6@s?|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cT|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cJ|nt|TopWizard: Problem is the Duboin doesn't know if taking any tricks in @c's|pg|| pc|c2|pc|s2|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d6|pc|d3|pc|dK|pg|| nt|fabsayc: but he does know he is not making 7@H|pg|| nt|TopWizard: Truth be told, nobody knew much of anything . . . |pg|| mc|10|nt|TopWizard: Yes, many say that Zia had singleton @c so @c tricks likely in North|pg|| pg|| qx|c16|st||md|2SA62HAT95DQJT32CT,SKT74HDAK87CAQ653,S3HQJ8764D95CKJ87,SQJ985HK32D64C942|sv|e|mb|1C|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|d|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|5H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s3|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|h4|pc|s8|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o17|st||md|3SJ52HAKJ87DQJ2CK9,ST8643H4D74CAJ764,SAQ9HQT965D9853C8,SK7H32DAKT6CQT532|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1H|nt|pelu: N know Zia has a singleton @c - so thats why he has a D over 6@s|pg|| mb|d!|an|!s|nt|TopWizard: Voice is accurate - rarely does anyone (including sometimes Zia) know what Zia has :)|pg|| nt|fabsayc: you see we all agree on that|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s8|pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|s5|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h3|pc|h7|pc|h4|pg|| nt|TopWizard: Zia will save 2 IMPS here for -1|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h2|pc|h8|pc|c7|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d4|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c8|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s9|pc|sK|pc|s2|pg|| mc|9|nt|pelu: all comments on down 1 or but actualkyEW are cold for 5@c|pg|| pg|| qx|c17|st||md|3SJ52HAKJ87DQJ2CK9,ST8643H4D74CAJ764,SAQ9HQT965D9853C8,SK7H32DAKT6CQT532|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|1H|mb|d|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d7|pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|d5|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dJ|pc|h4|pc|d8|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o18|st||md|4S8H75DAJT86CKJ754,SJ965HQT86DQ5CT63,SKQT7HAK4DK974CA8,SA432HJ932D32CQ92|sv|n|mb|p|nt|TopWizard: 9 in !'s and 11 in @c's = 20|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|pelu: R7 of 8|pg|| mb|2D!|mb|p|nt|TopWizard: Running Scores in A Group, look at Teams 20-30:http://www.worldbridge.org/repository/tourn/sanya.14/microsite/RunningScores/Asp/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?qtournid=1063&qshowflag=1|pg|| nt|fabsayc: the italian pairs all use 2@C or 2@D opening for balanced 18-19 hands|pg|| nt|TopWizard: 18-19+|pg|| nt|fabsayc: it is because of the gazilli convention|pg|| mb|2N!|mb|p|nt|TopWizard: Voice is inaccurate - seeding by WBF points|pg|| nt|fabsayc: using gazilli 2nt rebid is artificial|pg|| mb|3C|nt|TopWizard: Bonus points added for placing in this Swiss|pg|| mb|p|mb|4S!|nt|pelu: the swiis will give ½ of the seeding but also the WBF masterpoint count|pg|| mb|p|nt|pelu: so they are almost at the top-tables only playing for fun :(:(|pg|| mb|6D|nt|TopWizard: But these will be the teams most likely in the Quarter Finals to Final|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|TopWizard: Will play for 2-2|pg|| nt|fabsayc: i would never dare to make that definite a prediction|pg|| nt|TopWizard: Important in team not to be a "hero"|pg|| nt|pelu: when @d is trump u have no room to asked for @dQ - only if u start Keycard-asking on lower level|pg|| nt|fabsayc: 2nt normally shows clubs|pg|| nt|fabsayc: 4s is an added wrinkle|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s8|nt|TopWizard: E does not have a passive lead|pg|| nt|fabsayc: 4S a splinter with both minors|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|c18|st||md|4S8H75DAJT86CKJ754,SJ965HQT86DQ5CT63,SKQT7HAK4DK974CA8,SA432HJ932D32CQ92|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d3|pc|d6|pc|d5|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s5|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h7|pc|hT|pc|h4|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|c4|pg|| pc|d7|pc|s2|pc|dJ|pc|s6|pg|| pc|dT|pc|c3|pc|d9|pc|s3|pg|| pc|d8|pc|h8|pc|s7|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cT|pc|cA|pc|c2|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s4|pc|c7|pc|s9|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c9|pc|cK|pc|c6|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|sJ|pc|sT|pc|cQ|pg|| pg|| qx|o19|st||md|1SK972H8DA8742CJ96,SAQ6HJ6DKT93CKT87,SJT4HAK732DJ5CA54,S853HQT954DQ6CQ32|sv|e|nt|fabsayc: i cant be sure but makes sense|pg|| nt|TopWizard: E leading A so it won't get lost|pg|| mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|TopWizard: Team games are won by not taking unusual positions unless you're almost certain of the unusual position|pg|| nt|pelu: when opp dont ask for Keycard - they could be missing AK or 2 Aces that the reason for leading @sA|pg|| mb|2C!|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|nt|TopWizard: David Bird is not Zia :)|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|nt|TopWizard: Zia bids what Zia wants to bid|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|TopWizard: Partner might have 4 card @hs|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s4|pc|s5|nt|TopWizard: So getting out of 1@h was Zia's thought I believe|pg|| pc|s7|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pg|| nt|TopWizard: 4-cards likely in @h's|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|sQ|pc|sT|pg|| pc|sA|pc|sJ|pc|s8|pc|s9|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|d6|pc|d2|pg|| pc|dT|nt|fabsayc: actually in NA some play you respond to overcall much as to opening bid|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hT|pc|dA|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d9|pc|c4|pc|c3|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|pelu: @d again was a mistake but diff for V to see|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h8|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|c6|pc|h6|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h9|nt|TopWizard: 21st Century bridge: when NV opposite passed hand, anything goes by both partners|pg|| pc|sK|pc|c7|pg|| pc|d8|mc|7|pg|| qx|c19|st||md|1SK972H8DA8742CJ96,SAQ6HJ6DKT93CKT87,SJT4HAK732DJ5CA54,S853HQT954DQ6CQ32|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c8|pc|c4|pc|cQ|pc|c6|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|sQ|pc|s4|pg|| pc|sA|pc|sT|pc|s8|pc|s7|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sJ|pc|s5|pc|sK|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cJ|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|h8|pc|h6|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h5|pc|d4|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hQ|pc|s9|pc|dT|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d9|pc|d5|pc|d6|pg|| mc|6|pg|| qx|o20|st||md|2SQ5HQ872DAQ8CQT74,SA984HKT3DK64CJ98,SJ2HAJ64DJ97CA632,SKT763H95DT532CK5|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|TopWizard: http://www.worldbridge.org/repository/tourn/sanya.14/microsite/RunningScores/Asp/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?qtournid=1063&qshowflag=1|pg|| mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|nt|TopWizard: Running Scores, note Teams 20-30 on cusp|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|TopWizard: Zia bids differently from the world it seems!|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|c8|pc|cA|pg|| nt|vugraphzbf: zia,put his 4 queen at table first|pg|| nt|TopWizard: Zia showed how bad his hand was by putting all the Q's down :)|pg|| nt|TopWizard: That's why he passed 1@h|pg|| nt|fabsayc: the ever popular Kx lead|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c20|st||md|2SQ5HQ872DAQ8CQT74,SA984HKT3DK64CJ98,SJ2HAJ64DJ97CA632,SKT763H95DT532CK5|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d3|pc|d8|pc|dK|pc|d9|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dJ|pc|d5|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|h5|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h9|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d7|pc|dT|pc|dA|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hT|pc|hJ|pc|s7|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|c8|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o21|st||md|3S42HQ52D8764CJ532,S875HAJ3DK5CAQ876,S6HT98764DAJCKT94,SAKQJT93HKDQT932C|sv|n|nt|fabsayc: it works in leap years when the moon is full|pg|| mb|p|mb|2C!|nt|TopWizard: Kx didn't hurt, still had their @c trick|pg|| mb|p|mb|3D|nt|fabsayc: i know :)|pg|| mb|p|nt|TopWizard: Wow, agree with Voice - 2@c is quite a bit|pg|| nt|TopWizard: E doesn't know which A's and K's in West, missing so many!|pg|| nt|fabsayc: i am totally lost|pg|| nt|pelu: 3@D = 5 controls 2 Aces + K or 1! + 3 kings|pg|| mb|6S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|TopWizard: W has 5 controls - with 3@d|pg|| mb|p|nt|TopWizard: E could be off the @dAK|pg|| pc|s2|nt|bjacobs: no he can't|pg|| nt|TopWizard: Sorry, not|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s6|pc|sT|pg|| nt|TopWizard: A and AK|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|h6|pg|| nt|TopWizard: Could be off @dAK as I said :)|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg|| pc|dJ|nt|TopWizard: Floods of msg's :)|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d6|pc|d5|pg|| mc|12|nt|TopWizard: Dummy might have been void in @s's also|pg|| nt|fabsayc: freakish hands almost any approach can be right|pg|| nt|fabsayc: thanks operator, fellow commentators and spectators for some funny comments|pg|| pg|| qx|c21|st||md|3S42HQ52D8764CJ532,S875HAJ3DK5CAQ876,S6HT98764DAJCKT94,SAKQJT93HKDQT932C|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4N|mb|p|mb|6C|mb|p|mb|6S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h5|pc|h3|pc|hT|pc|hK|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s5|pc|s6|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|s7|mc|12|pg||