vg|BBO1-2nd Mind Sports Games,O-RR5,I,1,16,INDIA,0,NETHERLANDS,0| rs|3NE+1,4SE=,3CS-1,2DE+1,4CS-2,3DS-1,4SN+1,4SN+1,4HS=,4HS=,3HN-2,4HN-2,3NS=,3NS=,4HN+1,4HN+1,2SN+1,2SN+1,3NW=,3NW=,3NE+1,3NE+2,3SN-3,3NE+2,2SS+1,4SN-1,3NS=,3NS=,4SE+1,4SW+1,1NW=,1NW=| pn|MAJUMDER,VERHEES JR,MUKHERJEE,PROOIJEN,BRINK,MUKHERJEE,DRIJVER,MAJUMDAR|pg|| qx|o1|st||md|3ST4H98752DKQJ7C96,SA953HAQ4DT98CJ74,SQ8HJT6D643CKQT83,SKJ762HK3DA52CA52|sv|o|nt|ahollan1: dutch EW play Ultimate Canape|pg|| nt|rv: here we go Sumit Mukherjee-Debabrata Majumdar vs Rico Van Prooijen vs Louk verhees|pg|| nt|ahollan1: strong club, strong NT, canape and MANY alerts|pg|| nt|rv: North's BBO Id is sumitm, South's is laltu (his nickname)|pg|| nt|rv: N-S play std 2/1 with gadgets|pg|| mb|p|nt|rv: Mukherjee-Majumdar partnership in both rooms for India, maybe it is better to mention their real name Sumit/Debabrata instead of surname|pg|| mb|1N|nt|ahollan1: i was wondering 1N or upgraded 1@C |pg|| nt|ahollan1: 1N=15-17|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|psyck: Hello everyone|pg|| nt|rv: Hi CK, good evening|pg|| pc|dK|nt|ahollan1: no surprise 3N with 4333 rather than stayman|pg|| nt|ahollan1: should say 4333 with values in all suits|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d4|pc|d5|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d9|pc|d3|pc|dA|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|s8|pg|| nt|rv: yes, this maybe only game auction where most of us might bid exactly same way as this E-W pair|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sT|pc|sA|pc|sQ|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c1|st||md|3ST4H98752DKQJ7C96,SA953HAQ4DT98CJ74,SQ8HJT6D643CKQT83,SKJ762HK3DA52CA52|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|d|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4C|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dK|pc|d8|pc|d6|pc|d2|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d9|pc|d3|pc|dA|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sT|pc|sA|pc|s8|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|s4|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c4|pc|c3|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|h6|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|hQ|pc|hT|pg|| pc|hA|pc|hJ|pc|d5|pc|h7|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o2|st||md|4SAQJ7HA76DJ72CT86,SKT83HKT52DA3C532,S542H83D954CAKQJ4,S96HQJ94DKQT86C97|sv|n|nt|ahollan1: no imps but BAM win for the dutch|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i started typing that before Roland mentioned|pg|| nt|rv: I have stopped competing with Roland and strategically not opted for Voice commentary for that reason|pg|| mb|p|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|2D|an|9-11 !c|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|rv: mixed raise in @Cs here|pg|| nt|psyck: there are a lot of variations on what people open with 33 & 44 in minors|pg|| pc|c5|nt|rv: in CR, I presume Manas Mukherjee-Subr Majumdar for India, here Sumit Mukherjee-Debrata Majumdar|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|c6|pg|| nt|ahollan1: CC calls jump shift in other minor Mixed i would call that range limit raise|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pg|| nt|rv: yes agree Al|pg|| nt|psyck: yes it is more of limit raise values than mixed raise which is little lower|pg|| nt|ahollan1: as passed would East DBL of artificial 2@D be takeout of @C or showing @D??|pg|| nt|rv: I prefer t/o of @cs unless opps in Inv+ auction|pg|| nt|rv: if opps are pre or Mixed I prefer t/o, if Inv+/GF then @Ds|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i suspect that's how vanProoijen plays it too|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d6|pc|d2|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|dQ|pc|d7|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dJ|pc|h5|pc|d9|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|rv: Van Prooijen-Verhees have displaced Bartens-Bakkaren as well as Jansma-pd in Dutch team, those 2 pairs will walk into national teams of most countries|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h3|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|c9|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c3|pc|cJ|pc|d8|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s9|pc|sA|pc|s3|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s8|pc|s5|nt|rv: such is the depth, Dutch has very strong 2nd team as well which can give tough fight to most countries|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c2|st||md|4SAQJ7HA76DJ72CT86,SKT83HKT52DA3C532,S542H83D954CAKQJ4,S96HQJ94DKQT86C97|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c6|pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c9|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c7|pc|cT|pc|c3|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hQ|pc|h7|pc|h2|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|d4|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|dK|pc|d7|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dJ|pc|s3|pc|d9|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h8|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o3|st||md|1SQ3H9DAKT5CAJ7432,SKT875HK6DQ98CQ96,S64HAJ8743DJ74CT8,SAJ92HQT52D632CK5|sv|e|mb|1C|mb|1S|nt|rv: sry Bertens-Westra is pair missing out along with Jansma-pd|pg|| mb|d|mb|3C|nt|rv: Bakkeren is npc of Dutch team|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2 boards, no imps but BAM swings for both hands|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Jansma's partner is Paulissen|pg|| nt|rv: 3@c seems to be some sort of bal 4 card raise|pg|| mb|d|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|psyck: nothing much makes at 3 level here|pg|| mb|4C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|rv: many play jump cue as mixed raise here|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s4|pc|sA|pc|s3|pg|| nt|rv: yes Majumdar did not have tools to show @ds and @cs here on 3@s?|pg|| nt|ahollan1: we used to call it the San Diego confirmation -- 4@C bid confirms I had my DBL|pg|| nt|rv: I might have bid 3@d with Majumdar's hand|pg|| pc|d3|nt|rv: and passed 3@s|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d8|pc|d4|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c8|pc|c5|pg|| pc|c2|nt|ahollan1: that sounds better to me too RV|pg|| nt|psyck: that is moreor less what happened in other room|pg|| nt|rv: Bas, can we confirm North is Sumit Mukhejee and South is Debrata Majumdar here?|pg|| nt|vugraphzay: I cannot, I am not at the table|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cT|pc|cK|pg|| pc|d2|nt|rv: if yes, we have Manas Mukherjee-Subir Majumdar playing in CR, else vice versa|pg|| pc|d5|nt|ahollan1: safety valve of bidding 3@D is that if negative doubler converts to 3@H, you can pull to 4@C to show the relative shape|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d7|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s6|pc|s2|pc|sQ|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c3|st||md|1SQ3H9DAKT5CAJ7432,SKT875HK6DQ98CQ96,S64HAJ8743DJ74CT8,SAJ92HQT52D632CK5|sv|e|mb|1C|mb|1S|mb|d|mb|2N|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s5|pc|s4|pc|sA|pc|s3|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|s6|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h9|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c6|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|c8|pc|c5|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h7|pc|hT|pc|d5|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c9|pc|h3|pc|d2|pg|| pc|h5|pc|c3|pc|d8|pc|h4|pg|| pc|s7|pc|d4|pc|s9|pc|c4|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|d9|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o4|st||md|2SATHAQJ9DQ6CAKJ73,S875HT74DJ53CT862,SKQJ963H652D742C9,S42HK83DAKT98CQ54|sv|b|mb|p|nt|vugraphzay: On the big screen in the VG theatre N is Mukherjee M|pg|| nt|ahollan1: constructive|pg|| nt|vugraphzay: In the OR|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|nt|psyck: If the names are entered correctly since they are Debabrata Majumdar Subir Mazumder...it should be Subir here...but i'm not sure as it is Debabrata who plays that mixed raise we ...|pg|| nt|psyck: saw earlier|pg|| mb|2N|nt|rv: ok then it is Manas Mukherjee-Subir Majumdar here|pg|| nt|rv: Sumit-Laltu in CR|pg|| nt|vugraphzay: The names are taken directly from the line-up server|pg|| nt|rv: thanks Bas, that clarifies for all of us|pg|| nt|psyck: ok, i thought so, as the names ending in DER & DAR were the only differentiator|pg|| nt|rv: well spotted CK|pg|| mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dK|nt|rv: 2n is modified ogust, I presume 3@c shows min pre-empt at these colors|pg|| pc|d6|nt|ahollan1: was 3@C = min?|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d4|pg|| nt|ahollan1: sorry RV got there first|pg|| nt|psyck: S wanted to hear 3@d instead of 3@c to explore further|pg|| pc|dA|pc|dQ|pc|d3|pc|d7|pg|| nt|rv: :)|pg|| pc|dT|pc|sA|pc|dJ|pc|d2|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s5|pc|s3|pc|s2|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c9|pc|c4|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c8|nt|rv: Manas Mukherjee is playing captain|pg|| nt|ahollan1: is there any psychogical issue about 3rd @D rather than @H shift?|pg|| nt|rv: he is in his last year for Indian Railways, will retire in 2013|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c4|st||md|2SATHAQJ9DQ6CAKJ73,S875HT74DJ53CT862,SKQJ963H652D742C9,S42HK83DAKT98CQ54|sv|b|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d3|pc|d7|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dQ|pc|d5|pc|d4|pg|| pc|d9|pc|sA|pc|dJ|pc|d2|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s5|pc|sJ|pc|s2|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|h9|pc|s7|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|d8|pc|hJ|pc|s8|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c4|pc|cA|pc|c2|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c6|pc|h2|pc|c5|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c8|pc|s3|pc|cQ|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o5|st||md|3SQ97HA654DAK3CKT3,S52HQJ3DQ974CQ752,SA863HKT98DT5CA86,SKJT4H72DJ862CJ94|sv|n|nt|rv: Sumit-Laltu playing in CR are young stars and will play more than their share of rounds|pg|| mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|nt|rv: 2@s is relay|pg|| mb|3C|nt|rv: Manas will bid 3@h to show min hand and 4 trumps|pg|| mb|p|nt|psyck: N's hand is worth 12.75 KnR|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: used to clarify 4-fit vs 3-fit?|pg|| nt|rv: his 3@c shows min hand with 4 trumps|pg|| nt|psyck: yes @h length & values|pg|| nt|ahollan1: that's an adjustment to normal response structure|pg|| nt|rv: on 1@c-1@s-2@s-2n is relay, 1@c-1@h-2@h-2@s is relay for more space conservation|pg|| nt|ahollan1: normally responses in minor reveal 3-card raise|pg|| pc|s5|nt|rv: yes that is way I play it|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|s7|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|s2|pc|s6|pg|| nt|rv: Indian Railways won last Winter Nationals (India's premier event) very convincingly |pg|| pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h8|pc|h2|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hJ|pc|hK|pc|h7|pg|| nt|ahollan1: is that a corporate or state sponsor?|pg|| nt|rv: they were seeded to SFs of selection trials on account of that, won their SFs vs Texan Aces and Finals vs Dhampur Sugar Mills in close matches|pg|| nt|rv: state sponsor, Indian Railways one of the largest public sector companies across the world|pg|| nt|rv: mammoth organization|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|d4|pg|| pc|s9|pc|c2|pc|sA|mc|10|nt|rv: all these players work for Eastern Railway, based out of Kolkatta in West Bengal till recently left bastion|pg|| nt|ahollan1: there's a joke there somewhere maybe something like i thought mammoths were extinct|pg|| pg|| qx|c5|st||md|3SQ97HA654DAK3CKT3,S52HQJ3DQ974CQ752,SA863HKT98DT5CA86,SKJT4H72DJ862CJ94|sv|n|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s5|pc|s6|pc|sK|pc|s7|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d5|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h8|pc|h2|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|h7|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sT|pc|sQ|pc|s2|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d7|pc|dT|pc|d2|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d9|pc|h9|pc|d8|pg|| pc|hT|pc|c4|pc|h5|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|c6|pc|dJ|pc|h6|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c9|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cJ|pc|cK|pc|c5|pg|| pc|s9|pc|c7|pc|sA|pc|s4|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sJ|pc|cT|pc|cQ|pg|| pg|| qx|o6|st||md|4SJT97HKT92DJ62CA8,SQ542HADK983CQT93,SK6HQJ8643DA74CJ5,SA83H75DQT5CK7642|sv|e|nt|rv: :)|pg|| mb|p|nt|rv: NS here are Manas and Subit, in CR we have Sumit-Laltu|pg|| nt|rv: Subir|pg|| mb|p|mb|1D|mb|1H|nt|ahollan1: 1@D=10-15 hcp, possible 0@D, possible canape in @C or @S|pg|| mb|1S|nt|rv: Al is our resident expert for all big @c systems|pg|| nt|ahollan1: canape = 2nd suit bid is LONGER|pg|| mb|3H|nt|rv: some say he knows system of most of big @c pairs better than the players themselves:)|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 1@S=0-3@S|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: like negative dbl WITHOUT @S|pg|| pc|d5|nt|rv: looks like this 3@h is mixed raise|pg|| nt|rv: 1@s shows t/o double of @h w/o @s?|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d8|pc|dA|pg|| pc|h4|nt|ahollan1: right RV|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h9|pc|hA|pg|| nt|ahollan1: what do you think of Drijver's tactical weak 2@H bid?|pg|| nt|psyck: at fav vul, he wanted to get bidding highr, understandable|pg|| nt|rv: could go 1 down if he guesses @s right|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d7|pc|dQ|pc|d6|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|d4|pg|| nt|rv: we could be all square after 6 brds if that happens|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cJ|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg|| nt|rv: tight match, boards are flat so far, I expect low scoring matches everywhere|pg|| pc|hT|pc|c3|pc|hJ|pc|h7|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c4|pc|c8|nt|rv: usually low scoring match is a sign of good bridge by both sides|pg|| pc|cQ|pg|| pc|s2|nt|psyck: the previos set had a quiet start too, hopefully we will get more engrossing deals soon|pg|| pc|sK|nt|ahollan1: monaco over turkey 17-0 through 6|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s7|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s9|pc|sQ|pc|s6|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|c6|st||md|4SJT97HKT92DJ62CA8,SQ542HADK983CQT93,SK6HQJ8643DA74CJ5,SA83H75DQT5CK7642|sv|e|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d5|pc|d2|pc|d8|pc|dA|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h7|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d7|pc|dQ|pc|d6|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|d4|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c5|pc|c2|pc|cA|pg|| pc|hT|pc|d9|pc|h4|pc|h5|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c3|pc|cJ|pc|cK|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|s2|pc|s6|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o7|st||md|1S863HAT8DAJ3CAQT9,SKT94HQ93DQT96CJ6,SQ75HK654DKCK7432,SAJ2HJ72D87542C85|sv|b|nt|rv: Subir misguessed and Dutch still retain their lead|pg|| nt|rv: another flat board here?|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sT|pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|s3|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s7|pc|sA|pc|s6|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s8|pc|sK|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|s9|pc|h4|nt|ahollan1: i've read first 8 chapters of David Bird's book on Opening Leads vs NT -- enough to be even more nervous about critiquing leads|pg|| pc|d4|pc|h8|pg|| nt|rv: David Bird must be around somewhere here|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c7|st||md|1S863HAT8DAJ3CAQT9,SKT94HQ93DQT96CJ6,SQ75HK654DKCK7432,SAJ2HJ72D87542C85|sv|b|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sT|pc|s5|pc|sJ|pc|s6|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s4|pc|s7|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s8|pc|sK|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|s9|pc|h4|pc|d5|pc|d3|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dK|pc|d2|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c5|mc|9|pg|| qx|o8|st||md|2S965HQJ85DJ43CJT4,SJ83HTDKQ95CK7532,SAQT7HAK964D7CAQ8,SK42H732DAT862C96|sv|o|nt|psyck: He is doing voice|pg|| mb|p|nt|psyck: those using the browser version of BBO have the option of listening to voice commentary|pg|| mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2S|nt|ahollan1: or http://bridgebase.com/client/vugraph.php|pg|| mb|p|mb|3H|nt|rv: expect another flat brd here|pg|| nt|ahollan1: is 3@H game force???|pg|| nt|vugraphzay: In the women's Reunion played 1@H+4|pg|| mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: most use some method over reverse to show bad hand|pg|| pc|c9|nt|rv: good point, I might bid 4@h with South hand and play 3@h to show better hand|pg|| nt|psyck: You can also open multiple windows without login in the browser by going to http://www.bridgebase.com/, clicking on "Play Bridge Now" and selecting the "Look around our site" ...|pg|| nt|psyck: button.|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c2|pc|c8|pg|| nt|ahollan1: lesser of 2N or 4th suit is common treatment or 2N=lebensohl|pg|| nt|rv: many play 3@h via 2n as some form of Lebensohl (Ingermann 2n)|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hT|nt|psyck: Ingberman|pg|| nt|rv: used to be called Ingbermann 2n|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h3|pc|h8|pc|d5|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s3|pc|s7|nt|psyck: it is basically like Leb, going via 2N to show weaker hands|pg|| nt|ahollan1: Monroe Ingberman, 1st coach of Dallas Aces, was a wonderful theorist|pg|| pc|sK|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c4|pc|c5|pc|cQ|pg|| nt|rv: http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Lille.12/microSite/RunningScores/ASP/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?qtournid=949&qshowflag=1 for live scores|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c8|st||md|2S965HQJ85DJ43CJT4,SJ83HTDKQ95CK7532,SAQT7HAK964D7CAQ8,SK42H732DAT862C96|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c9|pc|cJ|pc|c2|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|hT|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h3|pc|hQ|pc|c3|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|c5|pc|h6|pc|h7|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s3|pc|sT|pc|sK|pg|| pc|c6|mc|11|pg|| qx|o9|st||md|3S8HA8765DAQ973C98,SHJT9432DJ85CK754,SKQT963HQD4CAQT32,SAJ7542HKDKT62CJ6|sv|e|nt|ahollan1: this set of hands brought to you by Sominex|pg|| nt|psyck: finally some shapely hand|pg|| nt|rv: look at scores no tm has won even 10 IMPs after 6 brds|pg|| nt|rv: very flat brds so far|pg|| mb|1S|nt|ahollan1: fantunes in 4@SX|pg|| mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2S|nt|ahollan1: i look at south hand, see all the 8's and 7's and think cribbage|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2@S????|pg|| nt|psyck: looks strange indeed|pg|| mb|p|nt|rv: Manas might have taken winning double dummy decision, I will bid 3@c with the North hand to show 55 13-16|pg|| mb|p|nt|rv: playing Gazzilli 1M-1n-3x shows 55 in 2 suits 13-16|pg|| nt|ahollan1: for me 4@S before 2@S but not showing @C is total mystery|pg|| mb|p|pc|hK|nt|rv: in std methods, 2@c followed by 2@s seems reasonable|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c4|pc|cQ|pc|c6|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2@C planning to rebid 2@S seems very pessimistic to me|pg|| nt|psyck: Good @s spots, so even the 6-0 break does not hurt|pg|| pc|cA|pc|cJ|pc|c9|pc|c5|pg|| nt|psyck: options are limited here when not playing Gazzilli|pg|| pc|c2|pc|d2|pc|s8|pc|c7|pg|| nt|rv: playing Gazzilli, some play 1M-1n-4M to show 65 13-15/16|pg|| nt|rv: sry 1M-1n-4m|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d4|pc|d6|pg|| nt|ahollan1: in other room Brink-Drijver play 1@S-2@D as showing @H|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d8|pc|s3|pc|dT|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s2|pc|h5|nt|rv: all strong hands go via 2@c if you play Gazzilli|pg|| pc|h3|pg|| pc|c3|pc|s4|nt|ahollan1: spec telling me that some play transfer rebids over 1N then 2@S rebid actually does show @C|pg|| pc|d7|pc|cK|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d9|pc|dJ|pc|s6|pg|| nt|rv: not this pair|pg|| pc|cT|pc|s5|pc|h7|pc|h9|pg|| pc|s7|pc|h6|nt|rv: slightly lucky result for India here, they might take lead here|pg|| pc|h4|pc|s9|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c9|st||md|3S8HA8765DAQ973C98,SHJT9432DJ85CK754,SKQT963HQD4CAQT32,SAJ7542HKDKT62CJ6|sv|e|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cJ|pc|c8|pc|c4|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|d5|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c5|pc|c2|pc|c6|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d8|pc|s3|pc|d6|pg|| pc|cT|pc|hK|pc|s8|pc|c7|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h2|pc|hQ|pc|s2|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d7|pc|dJ|pc|s6|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|h6|pc|h3|pg|| pc|cA|pc|s5|pc|d9|pc|cK|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o10|st||md|4SA732HT96DAT5CK52,SK8HJ74DKQ9CAQ863,S64HK83DJ8632C974,SQJT95HAQ52D74CJT|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|nt|rv: we might see smolen here|pg|| mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: sidebar - the only pair i ever knew that played transfers over 1M-1N Deas-Palmer|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|nt|rv: 3@h shows 4@h+5@s|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 3@H = Smolen 4M 5OM|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|rv: I play transfers on 1m-1n|pg|| nt|rv: and play Gazzilli on 1M-1n|pg|| nt|rv: another flat brd here, I am told Dutch N-S also in 2@s in CR|pg|| pc|d3|nt|rv: just 2 IMPs after 9 brds|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dA|pc|d9|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dK|pc|d6|pc|d7|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|s5|pc|sA|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dQ|pc|d2|nt|rv: my prediction for this group, Dutch, Germany, India and Denmark to qualify for pre-QFs:)|pg|| nt|ahollan1: usa v new zealand 9-1 but 9 will be swing 4@SX usa vs 4@S undoubled NZ|pg|| pc|h5|pg|| nt|vugraphzay: The operator has lost the play at the table|pg|| nt|psyck: Group D looks the toughest to Qualify in the open|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c10|st||md|4SA732HT96DAT5CK52,SK8HJ74DKQ9CAQ863,S64HK83DJ8632C974,SQJT95HAQ52D74CJT|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kingcur: hallo all|pg|| pc|d2|nt|kingcur: Since there's no one else commentating here, it seems, I'll give it a try|pg|| nt|kingcur: specs familiar with bidding systems are invited to msg me so I can relay the info|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dA|pc|d9|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dK|pc|d3|pc|d7|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|s5|pc|sA|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dQ|pc|d6|pc|h2|pg|| nt|kingcur: also< I far from consider myself of the level of these players and I see quite a few specs here who I consider better analysts than myself, so dont hesitate to msg me plays or ...|pg|| nt|kingcur: defenses, thx|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h3|pc|hQ|pc|h6|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s2|pc|s8|pc|s6|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s3|pc|c3|pc|c4|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s7|pc|c6|nt|kingcur: a very tight match, with 8 out of 9 boards flat...that doesnt happen too often with Brink-Drijver in the ring :)|pg|| pc|c7|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|c2|pc|c8|pc|c9|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c5|pc|cA|pc|d8|pg|| nt|kingcur: a Smolen sequence leading to 3NT here, the normal contract|pg|| nt|kingcur: Smolen: after 2@C Stayman, you bid 3Ma with 5-4 in the shortest major suit|pg|| mc|9|nt|kingcur: system for NS:|pg|| nt|kingcur: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/cc/OpenTeams/Netherlands/brink-drijver.pdf|pg|| nt|kingcur: system for EW is being searched|pg|| nt|kingcur: running scores for this group:|pg|| nt|kingcur: http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Lille.12/microSite/RunningScores/ASP/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?qtournid=949&qshowflag=1|pg|| nt|kingcur: EW play a 2/1 system, I am told, with udca|pg|| pg|| qx|o11|st||md|1SQ2HK764DJ872CT96,SJT983HA932DAT9C3,SK64HJT8DKQ63C854,SA75HQ5D54CAKQJ72|sv|o|nt|rv: yes very strong, clearly D is group of death|pg|| nt|ahollan1: http://www.worldbridge.org//tourn/Lille.12/microSite/Results.htm then click on event+group for live scores|pg|| nt|rv: Group A is arguably easiest|pg|| nt|psyck: Yes RV, lucky for India :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1S|nt|rv: over to Al to explain bidding|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: so sorry|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 1@C = 16+ unbal 18+ bal|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C|nt|ahollan1: 1@S = game force, 3places to play [usually 5431] @S length coincidence|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: vP will just make minimum noise as RELAY|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2@C = short @C|pg|| pc|h4|nt|rv: thanks for succint explanation, good auction, 3n better contract than 4@s?|pg|| nt|rv: bad @s break won't hurt 3n|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h8|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c3|pc|c8|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c9|pc|s3|pc|c4|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cT|pc|d9|pc|c5|pg|| nt|ahollan1: in other room auction was P-3N|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|d2|pc|dT|pc|d3|pg|| pc|c7|pc|d7|pc|h3|pc|d6|pg|| pc|c2|pc|h6|pc|h9|nt|ahollan1: it would never occur to me to open 3N opposite passed hand|pg|| pc|hJ|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s8|pc|s4|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sQ|pc|s9|pc|s6|pg|| pc|d8|pc|dA|pc|dQ|pc|d4|pg|| pc|hA|pc|hT|pc|h5|pc|h7|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|s5|pc|hK|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|dJ|pc|sT|pg|| pg|| qx|c11|st||md|1SQ2HK764DJ872CT96,SJT983HA932DAT9C3,SK64HJT8DKQ63C854,SA75HQ5D54CAKQJ72|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|buddyshah: Hi cor, hi all|pg|| nt|kingcur: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/docdefault.asp?page=India&start=c%3A\inetpub\wwwroot\ecatsbridge\documents\files\cc%2FOpenTeams|pg|| nt|kingcur: for EW CC (not sure this is the right one but we cant currently find anything else)|pg|| nt|kingcur: thx for the service :)|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|h8|pc|hQ|pg|| nt|kingcur: a somewhat unusual 3NT opener, 3rd hand here|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c6|pc|c3|pc|c4|pg|| nt|kingcur: 4th, sorry, and hence a little less unusual...sorry|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c9|pc|s3|pc|c5|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cT|pc|d9|pc|c8|pg|| pc|cA|pc|d2|pc|h3|nt|kingcur: and this wont present any problems|pg|| pc|d3|pg|| pc|c7|pc|d7|pc|dT|nt|kingcur: other room in the same contract, making 10 tricks|pg|| pc|d6|pg|| pc|c2|nt|kingcur: so, another flat board?|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h9|pc|hT|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h7|pc|hA|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s4|pc|s5|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|hK|pc|s8|pc|dQ|pc|d4|pg|| pc|d8|pc|dA|pc|dK|pc|d5|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s6|nt|kingcur: the squeeze worked, but E did not discard @S for 11 :)|pg|| nt|kingcur: now need to finesse|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s2|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|dJ|pg|| nt|kingcur: and 1 imp to India|pg|| pg|| qx|o12|st||md|2SAQ2HA8542D3CJ762,S4HT76DAK87654CQ5,SJ853HQJDT92CT984,SKT976HK93DQJCAK3|sv|n|nt|rv: yes, I wouldn't as well, Dutch playing better technical bridge, some luck with Indians |pg|| nt|ahollan1: 3@D-?? 3S or 3N or PASS|pg|| mb|3D|nt|rv: IMPs don't always reflect technical quality of bridge|pg|| nt|rv: 3@d for me|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|psyck: Normally 2 imps after 11 boards would be a sign of very good quality, but boards have been very flatish here too|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|c8|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c6|pc|cQ|pc|c4|pg|| nt|ahollan1: vanProoijen expecting MUCH LESS from 1st seat favorable 3@D opening|pg|| nt|rv: Prooijen has seem many worse pre-empts from Verhees at these colors, hence quick pass of 3@d|pg|| pc|c3|nt|rv: Al was faster here:)|pg|| pc|c7|pc|s4|pc|c9|pg|| nt|ahollan1: Verhees other options were PASS and limited, 0+@D|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2@D shows opening hand with 5+@H and 4+@D|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 1@D opened in other room will work much better for the Indian EW|pg|| nt|rv: 3n makes for E-W, depending 3@s might not be very bad alternate option|pg|| nt|rv: defending 3@s|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h6|pc|hJ|pc|h3|pg|| nt|rv: Van Prooijen didn't even consider double of 3@s since he knew his pd's 3@d could be very weak with no defensive trick|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s6|pc|sQ|pc|d5|pg|| nt|psyck: only about 3 imps here with other room in 3N|pg|| nt|psyck: could even be a push|pg|| nt|rv: yes this might go 3 down|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|d2|pc|dQ|pg|| nt|rv: I expect Manas to get 6th trick|pg|| nt|psyck: yes looks likely|pg|| nt|ahollan1: other table 3N east @H lead|pg|| nt|rv: we could have new leaders here|pg|| pc|hT|pc|s5|pc|h9|pc|h4|pg|| nt|rv: for those who have just joined in N-S here are Manas Mukherjee-Subir Majumdar|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dJ|pc|s2|pc|d4|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|d6|pc|cT|nt|rv: in CR, E-W for India are Sumit Mukherjee-Debabrata Majumdar (laltu)|pg|| pc|s7|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sA|pc|d7|pc|s8|pg|| nt|rv: both pairs are Mukherjee-Majumdar|pg|| mc|6|pg|| qx|c12|st||md|2SAQ2HA8542D3CJ762,S4HT76DAK87654CQ5,SJ853HQJDT92CT984,SKT976HK93DQJCAK3|sv|n|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1S|nt|kingcur: Inia are doing very well so far, ranking first in Group A, tied with Netherlands at the current 15-15 of this match|pg|| mb|d|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2H|nt|kingcur: kibs inquiring if this score of so many flat boards is a record....I'm not sure if anyone keeps stats of that, but it is incredibly tight|pg|| mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3N|nt|kingcur: very light 1@D opener here|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kingcur: but EW not going overboard|pg|| nt|kingcur: what to lead with S?|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h6|pc|hJ|pc|hK|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|d2|pg|| nt|kingcur: I'd have lead hearts despite the 2@H bid, and so does Brink|pg|| nt|kingcur: and that makes 11 for declarer to start with|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o13|st||md|3SK765HK2DK63C9876,ST8HQ97DQJ874CK42,SA943HJT54DATCAJ5,SQJ2HA863D952CQT3|sv|b|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1S|nt|rv: India would love these set of brds against fancied Dutch team, they would be more than happy to see low scoring match|pg|| nt|ahollan1: Drijver in 4@S north|pg|| mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|nt|rv: 4@s is too high?|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: Drijver opened 1N|pg|| nt|rv: I don't like upgrade|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|rv: w/o 5 card suit|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d9|pc|d3|pg|| pc|h4|nt|psyck: Yes there is no real case to upgrade|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hK|pc|h9|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h7|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pg|| nt|ahollan1: http://www.jeff-goldsmith.org/cgi-bin/knr.cgi? says north worth 14.05|pg|| nt|psyck: no extra shape, no combining honors, not much extra intermediaries etc|pg|| nt|ahollan1: but no surprise that Drijver upgrades|pg|| pc|c3|nt|psyck: even KnR which likes Aces a lot, rates N as 14.05|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cK|nt|ahollan1: brink-drijver VERY aggressive|pg|| pc|cA|pg|| nt|rv: 4@s might have made if @CHTX with West|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h6|pc|s5|pc|hQ|pg|| nt|rv: he is not very far off from making|pg|| nt|ahollan1: KnR likes aces and 10s but downgrades Jacks [and queens] and points in short suits|pg|| nt|psyck: maybe endplay on E available now|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s8|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|sT|pg|| nt|ahollan1: voice commentary talking about using Losing Trick Count|pg|| nt|rv: 6 IMPs for India here?|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|cT|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s7|pc|d4|pc|s4|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c8|pc|c4|pc|cJ|pg|| mc|9|nt|ahollan1: recent series of articles on LTC in ACBL Bulletin and Ron Klinger wrote a book|pg|| pg|| qx|c13|st||md|3SK765HK2DK63C9876,ST8HQ97DQJ874CK42,SA943HJT54DATCAJ5,SQJ2HA863D952CQT3|sv|b|nt|kingcur: and with heartse open, he stelles for 11|pg|| nt|kingcur: settles*|pg|| mb|1N|nt|kingcur: Im told 2@H was art GF, which makes the heart lead even more preferrable with S hand|pg|| mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|2N|nt|kingcur: 2@H is not Jacoby|pg|| mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|buddyshah: Both tables show Mukherjee and mujumdar, let me clarify that this table is Laltu ( debbrata)) and sumit Mukherjee, other table is Manas mukherji an Subir Mujumdar |pg|| nt|kingcur: Brink now probably showing a flat hand, leaving the decision on 3N/4@S to N|pg|| pc|d2|nt|kingcur: work to be done here: a trump, a heart and two clubs to be lost at first glance|pg|| nt|kingcur: and that is seeing @HA onside, which declarer doesnt know of course|pg|| nt|kingcur: 12 meanwhile a major swing in the perspective of this match: 4 imps to India|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dJ|pc|dA|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h3|pc|hK|pc|h7|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h9|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pg|| pc|d5|nt|kingcur: other room in 2@S making 9, so there will be a swing here|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d4|pc|dT|pg|| nt|kingcur: is there an endplay here? @DK, @D ruff, @H ruff, two trumps, @H and trump exit?|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|cT|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d6|pc|dQ|pc|s3|pg|| nt|kingcur: no, that doesnt work either I think|pg|| nt|kingcur: and Bas Drijver finessing for @CT means one off|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h6|pc|s5|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c4|nt|kingcur: and -240 means another 6 to India|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c8|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|s8|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sT|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg|| mc|9|nt|kingcur: 11-2 now|pg|| pg|| qx|o14|st||md|4SQ2HAKQ75DK43CQ54,SJT63HT64D765CA87,SAK5HJ93DQT82CT93,S9874H82DAJ9CKJ62|sv|o|nt|psyck: double dummy, could have eliminated red suits & exited in @s for 10 tricks|pg|| mb|p|mb|1N|nt|psyck: defense will have to be sharp in other room against 4@s|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s3|nt|rv: 3n better contract than 4@h here, I suspect Dutch N-S will also get there|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s2|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d9|nt|rv: 4@h might go down here|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d7|pg|| nt|ahollan1: good example here showing how KnR downgrades Queens and honors in short suits this south hand 16 hcp and good 5 card suit, but KnR 15.40|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h6|pc|h3|pc|h2|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s6|pc|s5|pc|s7|pg|| pc|h5|nt|ahollan1: http://www.jeff-goldsmith.org/cgi-bin/knr.cgi?|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hJ|pc|h8|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s8|pc|d3|pc|sT|pg|| pc|h9|pc|c2|pc|hA|pc|hT|pg|| pc|hK|pc|c7|pc|c3|pc|c6|pg|| pc|h7|pc|d6|pc|d8|nt|rv: Brink is taking long time to play 4@s in CR|pg|| pc|s9|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d5|nt|psyck: change the @sQ to @dQ here & KnR will add an extra point due to the combining honors|pg|| nt|ahollan1: can't really blame him :)|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c14|st||md|4SQ2HAKQ75DK43CQ54,SJT63HT64D765CA87,SAK5HJ93DQT82CT93,S9874H82DAJ9CKJ62|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|3N|nt|kingcur: 3NT made looks like a fine result...that contract will always make but NS have a good 5-3 heart fit, but 4@H not all that easy|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s3|nt|kingcur: Brink-Drijver taking this hurdle the simplest way imaginable though: 1NT-3NT|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s2|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d9|pc|dK|pc|d7|pg|| nt|kingcur: @DK seeing declarer home already|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h4|pc|h3|pc|h2|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s6|pc|s5|pc|s7|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h6|pc|hJ|pc|h8|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s8|pc|d3|nt|buddyshah: Welcome Sundarram|pg|| pc|sT|pg|| pc|h9|pc|c2|pc|hK|pc|hT|pg|| pc|hA|pc|d5|pc|c3|mc|9|nt|essess: Hi |pg|| pg|| qx|o15|st||md|1SA73HQ97DQJ7CJ532,SKQTHAKT53DAK5CQT,S5H62DT932CAK9876,SJ98642HJ84D864C4|sv|n|nt|ahollan1: 1@C=16+ unbal or 18+ bal|pg|| nt|psyck: he is going down in 4@s|pg|| mb|p|mb|1C|nt|ahollan1: 2@C for me|pg|| mb|2C|mb|p|mb|p|nt|rv: we started nearly 10 mins later than other table, nearly finished, very fast play here|pg|| nt|psyck: yes have to come in against strong @c even at this vul with decent suit & shape|pg|| nt|ahollan1: vP PASS usually 0-5 hcp|pg|| mb|d|nt|rv: Roland's long-time No 1 in list of slow players Bauke Miller not playing this match|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 4333 defensive values, but 4-fit 3@C or PASS??|pg|| mb|p|nt|rv: I will raise to 3@c with South hand|pg|| mb|3S|nt|ahollan1: DBL = a) 18-20 HCP b) takeout|pg|| mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|rv: Roland, what is latest ranking?|pg|| mb|p|nt|psyck: something like: 1-2. PO Sundelin, Bauke Muller - 3. Andrew Robson - 4-7. Glenn Grøtheim, Barnet Shenkin (20+mins to play card from wrong hand), Terje Aa, Michael Rosenberg - 8. ...|pg|| nt|psyck: Fulvio Fantoni - 9. Mark Feldman - 10. Alon Birman. i may have gotten a name or so wrong|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cT|pc|cK|pc|c4|pg|| pc|cA|nt|rv: thanks CK, Roland's left hand man:)|pg|| pc|s2|pc|c2|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|s5|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|c6|pc|s6|pc|sA|pg|| pc|d7|nt|rv: CK is left-hander, no offense meant otherwise:)|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d4|pg|| pc|sT|pc|c7|pc|sJ|pc|s7|pg|| pc|s9|pc|c5|pc|d5|pc|c8|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h7|pc|hT|pc|h2|pg|| mc|11|nt|ahollan1: actually i think Muller's pace of play has been much better in last 12 months|pg|| pg|| qx|c15|st||md|1SA73HQ97DQJ7CJ532,SKQTHAKT53DAK5CQT,S5H62DT932CAK9876,SJ98642HJ84D864C4|sv|n|nt|kingcur: for flat board 10|pg|| nt|buddyshah: Welcome to a very close match sundarram|pg|| nt|kingcur: welc sundarram|pg|| mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|nt|essess: thanks, good bridge all roun= close match|pg|| nt|essess: round|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|c2|pc|cT|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d4|pc|d7|pc|dA|pg|| nt|kingcur: same contract reached again, and 11 likely here too|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|sA|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|d2|pc|d6|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|c9|pc|s4|pc|s3|pg|| nt|essess: yes|pg|| pc|sT|nt|kingcur: by means of a heart finesse|pg|| pc|c6|pc|sJ|pc|s7|pg|| pc|s9|pc|c3|pc|h3|pc|c7|pg|| pc|s8|pc|c5|pc|d5|nt|essess: hmmm....?|pg|| pc|d3|pg|| nt|kingcur: but good @D switch by defense will make declarer sweat for a few|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h7|pc|hT|pc|h2|pg|| mc|11|nt|essess: same 11|pg|| pg|| qx|o16|st||md|2SK9432H76DJT95C93,SAJ8HKQ842DA43CJ8,SQT5HJT3DQCAKQ642,S76HA95DK8762CT75|sv|e|nt|ahollan1: final board of this snooze set|pg|| nt|rv: this will be great morale boosting result for India, shows they can hold their own against the best|pg|| nt|rv: boards were flat and they did play with some luck|pg|| mb|1N|nt|ahollan1: round 6 scheduled to begin in 1 hour 35 minutes|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|psyck: they were also a little lucky to get this set of boards against the Dutch|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 15 other room in 4@S after 2N opener|pg|| pc|cA|nt|ahollan1: that wasn't an option for Verhees|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c3|pc|c8|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c7|pc|c9|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cT|pc|s2|pc|s8|pg|| pc|c6|pc|s6|pc|h7|pc|h4|pg|| pc|c4|pc|d2|pc|s3|pc|d3|pg|| pc|c2|pc|d6|pc|d5|pc|h2|pg|| nt|ahollan1: list of matches that will be on vugraph listed each day in the Daily Bulletin|pg|| nt|rv: N-S make 2@s here, might be partial swing for Dutch|pg|| nt|ahollan1: http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Lille.12/microSite/Bulletins.asp|pg|| nt|vugraphzay: Next match in about 75 minutes is Poland USA|pg|| nt|psyck: Next set in about 1.5 hours from now|pg|| nt|rv: still India should win this match|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s7|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg|| pc|dA|pc|dQ|pc|d7|pc|d9|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h3|nt|psyck: Thanks everyone|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h6|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hT|nt|rv: thanks Bas, Al, CK, Roland and all specs|pg|| pc|hA|pc|s4|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dT|pc|d4|nt|rv: see you soon|pg|| mc|7|nt|vugraphzay: Thank you all|pg|| nt|ahollan1: netherlands on vugraph again next set -- against england|pg|| nt|ahollan1: running scores under http://www.worldbridge.org//tourn/Lille.12/microSite/Results.htm|pg|| pg|| qx|c16|st||md|2SK9432H76DJT95C93,SAJ8HKQ842DA43CJ8,SQT5HJT3DQCAKQ642,S76HA95DK8762CT75|sv|e|nt|kingcur: flat board 11, which to me stresses the high level of this match|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|nt|essess: yes, i figured- mukerjee-majumdar at both tables|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|cA|nt|essess: wonder when this last happened|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c3|pc|c8|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c7|pc|c9|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cT|nt|kingcur: North's lad somewhat predictable, and the defense will cash out 6 clubs, after which declarer has 8 tricks, but only 7 tricks left to cash them :)|pg|| pc|s2|pc|d3|pg|| pc|c6|pc|d2|nt|kingcur: lead*|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s8|pg|| nt|essess: :)|pg|| pc|c2|pc|d6|pc|d5|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|c4|pc|h5|pc|h6|pc|h2|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s6|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg|| mc|7|nt|buddyshah: thanks all :)|pg|| nt|essess: thanks buddy|pg|| nt|essess: thanks cor|pg|| nt|kingcur: note Mukherjees craefull discarding: he would have had squeeze options as a last string on his bow in case the hearts would not have been 3-2|pg|| pg||