vg|BBO1-2nd Mind Sports Games,O-R16-6_6,I,17,32,MONACO,154,CANADA,172|
rs|4SN=,2SN+2,2DN+1,3NN-4,4HN-1,2DEx=,4SW=,4SW=,3NS+1,3DS=,5CE-1,4HE=,4HN=,4HN=,3NW+1,3NW+1,3NWx-2,3NW-3,5CW=,5CW+1,3NW+1,4NE=,1NE=,2HE+1,3NN=,3NN=,3NNx+1,3NN+1,4DS=,2NN=,3NN+1,3NN+1|
pn|HELGEMO,WOLPERT,HELNESS,AMOILS,DEMUY,NUNES,L'ECUYER,FANTONI|pg||
qx|o17|st||md|3SQ986HJ983DA64C75,S3H76542DKQT8CA86,SAJ72HADJ53CKQJ94,SKT54HKQTD972CT32|sv|o|nt|fabsayc: strap in folks, we are in for a bumpy ride|pg||
nt|ritong: coulda be, yes   fasten seat belts|pg||
mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2S|nt|ritong: at that point north passed other room|pg||
nt|ritong: i doubt this north will do same|pg||
mb|p|mb|3S|nt|Walddk2:  Bas, are you sure that Helgemo is North?|pg||
mb|p|mb|4S|nt|ritong: operator, is south a tall guy with spectacles?|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|bebechira: lol|pg||
nt|Vugraphzay: I didn't notice before, I shall change it|pg||
nt|ritong: okay|pg||
nt|Vugraphzay: The line-up is taken directly from the line-up computers|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h3|pc|h7|pc|hA|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c3|pc|c5|pc|cA|pg||
nt|fabsayc: amoils can duck if a spade is finessed to jack at some point|pg||
nt|fabsayc: but i doubt that will help|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d3|pc|d9|pc|dA|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s3|nt|ritong: from west point of view, declarer has a 1NT range hand, thus unbalanced|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|sK|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d4|pc|dQ|pc|d5|pg||
nt|ritong: so he roughly has to bank on the @d J with pard|pg||
pc|h5|pc|s2|pc|hT|pc|h8|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s8|pc|h4|pg||
nt|fabsayc: now club queen|pg||
nt|ritong: or not|pg||
nt|ritong: helness is seriously considering a @c hook imho|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c2|pc|c7|pc|c6|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|cT|pc|h9|pc|c8|pg||
mc|10|nt|ritong: but goes for the simple line|pg||
pg||
qx|c17|st||md|3SQ986HJ983DA64C75,S3H76542DKQT8CA86,SAJ72HADJ53CKQJ94,SKT54HKQTD972CT32|sv|o|mb|1C|mb|p|nt|fluff:  laast 16, will canada perform the upset ?|pg||
mb|1D|an|4+!h|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|nt|fluff:  flat brds will be welcomed by them|pg||
nt|ehsana: Canada giving a tough time to the fancied team :)|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|ish:  I would just like to say Go CANADA!|pg||
pc|hK|nt|fluff:  L'Ecuyer and Demuy are probably the most dangerous pair in Canada; both are brilliant, fearless and very good card players|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h7|pc|hA|pg||
nt|fluff:  hi ishmael, u played with vinvent, no ?|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|cA|pg||
nt|ehsana: spade play needs a lot ofthinking|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d3|pc|d7|nt|ish:  Yes, we had so much fun|pg||
nt|ady: good day all|pg||
nt|ish:  until he got deported from Australia|pg||
nt|fluff:  played with vincent when he was teen; much, much better than me now :)|pg||
pc|d4|pg||
nt|siladen:  the other table still not started yet|pg||
nt|ehsana: I think they play 3S|pg||
nt|vugraphzbd: they're in open rama, they use to start 15 minutes later|pg||
pc|h2|pc|s2|pc|hT|pc|h8|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c3|pc|c7|pc|c6|pg||
nt|siladen:  thanks for info OP :)|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|d8|pg||
pc|h9|pc|h4|pc|s7|pc|hQ|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|cT|pc|d6|pc|c8|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s6|pc|s3|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d9|pc|s8|pc|dT|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h5|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s9|pc|h6|pc|c4|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|dK|pc|c9|pc|sT|pg||
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qx|o18|st||md|4SKTHAJT43D53CAK84,SQ732HK92D64CQT75,S654H8DKQJ972CJ92,SAJ98HQ765DAT8C63|sv|n|nt|3for3: ++-|pg||
mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|nt|fabsayc: not an auction you want to repeat in closed room|pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|nt|fabsayc: 2nt in closed room showed diamonds or minors, 3@H a singleton|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|c6|nt|fabsayc: was much tougher after weak no trump opening|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c5|nt|ritong: yes|pg||
pc|c2|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|dQ|pc|d8|pg||
pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d6|pg||
pc|c3|pc|cK|pc|c7|pc|c9|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h8|pc|h5|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h9|pc|d2|pc|h6|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|dT|pc|h4|pc|s2|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|s8|pc|c4|pc|cQ|pg||
pc|cT|pc|s4|pc|s9|pc|c8|pg||
pc|hK|pc|d7|pc|h7|pc|hT|pg||
pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|sT|pc|s3|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|c18|st||md|4SKTHAJT43D53CAK84,SQ732HK92D64CQT75,S654H8DKQJ972CJ92,SAJ98HQ765DAT8C63|sv|n|nt|fluff:  i saw u have great success, Ish, in USA tournaments|pg||
mb|1N|nt|ady: part score hand    diamonds best|pg||
mb|d|mb|p|nt|ish:  Thanks Bernard|pg||
nt|jbennet: it looks reasonabe to bid not 2 but 3 d .|pg||
nt|fluff:  Zimmerman played with L'Ãcuyer last year in Montreal Can-Am; he has a property here somewhere, i think|pg||
nt|ady: interesting  what action north takes|pg||
nt|fluff:  x is penalty, right ?|pg||
mb|2N|an|!d or both minors|nt|barnets: Hi all|pg||
nt|ady: hi|pg||
mb|p|mb|3D|nt|jbennet: since 1NT is not left in, 3 d should show good 6 -c suit but not much outside. but perhaps theis methods are differnet.|pg||
mb|p|mb|3H|an|0/1 !h|nt|jbennet: 3 d sounds like a warning sign saying "sorry p but i dont think we can make anything higher" |pg||
mb|p|nt|barnets: 3N wont be a success|pg||
mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ehsana: ........3NT seems a disaster|pg||
nt|siladen:  now open room just start..|pg||
mb|p|nt|barnets: 5@D has some play|pg||
pc|h7|nt|barnets: although def can prob beat it|pg||
nt|jbennet: 3 d was probably either a) some sort of  systemic response or more likely b) a system misunderstanding.|pg||
nt|ehsana: 5D has some sense if nor making though|pg||
nt|fluff:  saying maybe I am ready to play 4c also|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h8|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|dQ|pc|d8|pg||
pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d6|pg||
nt|barnets: it should be clear to e/w to play spades|pg||
pc|h6|pc|hJ|nt|jbennet: if 2NT did show both minors or only d then 3d could well mean "I have good club fit ,but if have 1 suited d then 3d is our limit".|pg||
pc|hK|pc|s4|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|sT|pg||
nt|barnets: if dec had @SA cant beat it from easts point of view|pg||
nt|moshel: hello  :)|pg||
nt|barnets: wests point of view|pg||
pc|s8|pc|sK|pc|s3|pc|s6|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c2|pc|c3|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c7|pc|c9|pc|c6|pg||
pc|c4|pc|cQ|pc|cJ|nt|ady: Q@C   last shot|pg||
pc|dT|pg||
nt|ady: down 4|pg||
pc|cT|nt|barnets: dec hopes @Cq doubleton no luck|pg||
pc|d2|pc|h5|pc|c8|pg||
nt|siladen:  HH goes for 4@S in  1 |pg||
mc|5|nt|barnets: big start for Monaco|pg||
pg||
qx|o19|st||md|1SK54HQ76DK985CK75,SAQT96HT5D76C9832,S732HAKJ32DACJT64,SJ8H984DQJT432CAQ|sv|e|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ritong: helness does not monkey around|pg||
nt|ritong: he gets an invite, has a shortage, bids game|pg||
nt|ritong: straightforward|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|fabsayc: takes a spade lead to beat this|pg||
nt|fabsayc: pretty much unfindable|pg||
nt|ritong: boys other room having bad time  time to fix up a tourniquet|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d7|pc|dA|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|h6|pc|h5|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h8|pc|h7|pc|hT|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h9|pc|hQ|pc|s6|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d6|pc|s2|pc|d2|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c2|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pg||
nt|fabsayc: wow|pg||
nt|ritong: a tourniquet is something you set up to stop hemorragies  french word is garrot|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d8|pc|sT|pc|h3|pg||
pc|c4|pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|c3|pg||
pc|dT|pc|d9|pc|s9|nt|fabsayc: wolpert erred here in not pitching a club|pg||
nt|ritong: i somehow have a doubt about the scenario|pg||
pc|hJ|pg||
pc|c6|pc|d3|pc|cK|pc|c8|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sQ|pc|s3|pc|s8|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|c19|st||md|1SK54HQ76DK985CK75,SAQT96HT5D76C9832,S732HAKJ32DACJT64,SJ8H984DQJT432CAQ|sv|e|mb|1C|mb|1S|mb|d|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|nt|fluff:  south hd wld have been passed my many :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|fluff:  by|pg||
nt|ady: n/s  may get overboard |pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|ady: poor opening bid   very flat 11|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|h4|pg||
nt|moshel: 4heart can be made on N/S if not lead club |pg||
nt|barnets: a club best now|pg||
nt|barnets: need 1 club 3 hearts and  trumps|pg||
nt|barnets: 2 trumps|pg||
nt|jbennet: ns may well see spades are running, so if he finds an immediate club shift and east  finneses then -1.|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d5|pc|d6|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c2|pg||
pc|s8|pc|s4|pc|s6|pc|s2|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s3|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s7|pc|cQ|pc|s5|pg||
pc|s9|pc|h2|pc|h8|pc|d8|pg||
nt|barnets: a heart may have been better|pg||
nt|barnets: fom dec |pg||
nt|barnets: soouth had to win and play the @D8|pg||
nt|warrens:  this is a terrible start by Canada.  after these three boards, I expect Monaco to be back in the lead|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d7|mc|8|nt|jbennet: club shift at trick 2 was necessary and had led to -1. (that was the only defence).|pg||
pg||
qx|o20|st||md|2SA94HJ3DAT654CK84,SKQJT53HK6DKJCAJ7,S7HT9875D873CQ653,S862HAQ42DQ92CT92|sv|b|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hT|pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|hK|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s7|pc|s2|pc|s4|pg||
nt|fabsayc: the play on last board is very unclear, helness may have given it the best line|pg||
pc|sK|pc|h7|pc|s6|pc|sA|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h6|pc|h5|pc|hQ|pg||
pc|hA|pc|s9|pc|sQ|pc|h8|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|d4|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d7|pc|d9|pc|dA|pg||
pc|c4|mc|10|pg||
qx|c20|st||md|2SA94HJ3DAT654CK84,SKQJT53HK6DKJCAJ7,S7HT9875D873CQ653,S862HAQ42DQ92CT92|sv|b|nt|ehsana: 2D a measelyX back fired|pg||
mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ady: routine 4@S for Monaco|pg||
nt|ady: 2NT?|pg||
pc|hT|nt|vugraphzbd: 3-4@s inv|pg||
nt|fluff:  some form of jacoby :)|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|hK|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s7|pc|s2|nt|siladen:   2 2@D in open room |pg||
nt|barnets: so 6 imps on first board and Monaco in 2@D on second|pg||
nt|barnets: that will make match about even|pg||
pc|sA|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h6|pc|h5|nt|fluff:  tie match after 2 brds|pg||
pc|hA|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s4|pc|sQ|nt|siladen:  11 imps expected from board 18|pg||
nt|fluff:  2 overbids by n-s|pg||
pc|h7|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|c3|pc|s8|pc|s9|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|d4|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d7|pc|d9|pc|dA|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c7|pc|cQ|pc|c2|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|o21|st||md|3SK65H85DKQJT54CAT,SAT4HQ9632DA76C92,SQ973HAKJTD32CJ74,SJ82H74D98CKQ8653|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|fabsayc: fantunes started ahead of this table, but i doubt he will finish first|pg||
mb|2C|mb|d|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|3C|nt|ritong: an other gain for monaco, most likely|pg||
mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|fabsayc: flexible 3rd seat opener|pg||
nt|fabsayc: looks likely to make|pg||
pc|h3|nt|fabsayc: club lead creates complications but i still think would have made|pg||
nt|fabsayc: now is trivial|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|h5|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d8|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pg||
pc|c9|pc|c4|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pg||
nt|fabsayc: thanks for all the messages, too many to answer|pg||
pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s8|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c7|pc|cK|pc|cT|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|c21|st||md|3SK65H85DKQJT54CAT,SAT4HQ9632DA76C92,SQ973HAKJTD32CJ74,SJ82H74D98CKQ8653|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ady: 3NT looks a good bet on the lay for n/s|pg||
mb|1D|mb|1H|mb|d|mb|2C|nt|ady: looks even better with the heart overcall|pg||
nt|warrens:  not so easy to make on a @C lead, since it takes away South's only sure entry|pg||
mb|2D|mb|p|nt|ady: yes true   club lead may scupper it|pg||
mb|2H|nt|siladen:  1 imp difference now, |pg||
nt|pappoo: ck lead|pg||
mb|d|an|don't like !h lead|nt|ehsana: Cub lead handicap else 3NT shiny :)|pg||
nt|ehsana: Canada released their grip|pg||
mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3D|nt|siladen:  4@H on board 19 |pg||
nt|jbennet: Interseting momentum at this table. All players must know by now that the canadian plus margin has shrunk to nothing, So will NS be able to get back to normal?|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c9|nt|warrens:  this is a safe contract, but I expect they'll be in 3NT at the other table|pg||
nt|ehsana: 3d is Notmal  enough :):) |pg||
pc|c4|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pg||
nt|ehsana: normal|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|fluff:  stopping the bleeding ?|pg||
nt|barnets: 3n coould have been exciting|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d8|pg||
nt|barnets: on a club lead|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c7|pc|cK|pc|cT|pg||
pc|c3|nt|ehsana: for you and me not for  them :)|pg||
nt|siladen:  4@h looks like to make in open room|pg||
nt|fluff:  after the x of 2h, club lead was surely coming|pg||
pc|s5|pc|d6|pc|cJ|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|s6|pg||
pc|s4|mc|9|nt|jbennet: it seems that 3NT was makable even on a club lead. |pg||
pg||
qx|o22|st||md|4SA976HAT6DK9865C7,SKJT8HK974DACT543,S542HJ3DJT72CQJ62,SQ3HQ852DQ43CAK98|sv|e|mb|1C|mb|d|mb|r|mb|1D|mb|p|nt|ritong: raising this is tempting|pg||
nt|ritong: hand belongs to EW apparently, after redouble, so 3@d might bother them|pg||
mb|3D|mb|4D|mb|p|mb|5C|nt|fabsayc: yuck, 4@H by amoils is pretty clear|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d5|nt|ritong: i m not a big fan of the noisy redoubles, this shows why|pg||
nt|ritong: just act as if they had passed, life will be simpler|pg||
nt|fabsayc: is all a matter of understandings of course, but to me wolpert hand is what 4@D showed|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d7|pc|d4|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|c9|pc|c7|pg||
nt|fabsayc: way back when (the 60's i think) there was an article about the ridiculous redouble in bridge world|pg||
nt|fabsayc: advocating bidding your suits immediately|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d6|pc|c4|pc|d2|pg||
pc|cT|pc|cJ|pc|cK|pc|d8|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s7|pc|s8|pc|s2|pg||
pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|sT|pc|s4|pg||
pc|s6|pc|sJ|pc|s5|pc|h2|pg||
nt|fabsayc: the original article as i remember was by the gadget maker, a canadian from ontario|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h3|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg||
pc|h6|pc|hK|pc|hJ|pc|h5|pg||
pc|sK|pc|c6|pc|c8|pc|s9|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|c5|pc|dT|pg||
pc|h7|mc|10|pg||
qx|c22|st||md|4SA976HAT6DK9865C7,SKJT8HK974DACT543,S542HJ3DJT72CQJ62,SQ3HQ852DQ43CAK98|sv|e|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2H|nt|ady: e/w may get to game in hearts    should fail|pg||
mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c7|nt|warrens:  why lose more than 2 @H's and a @S?|pg||
nt|barnets: dec can lose 2 trumps and 1 ace|pg||
nt|ady: can get clubs away on the spades  so may make|pg||
pc|c3|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pg||
nt|ehsana: interesting brd|pg||
nt|warrens:  @C's are all good anyway|pg||
nt|barnets: the lead suggests clubs are good|pg||
nt|ady: yes   can pick up club|pg||
nt|fluff:  4h down at OT, limits damages|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h6|nt|jbennet: east must be able to read souths lead  so normal play lead to 10 tricks.  |pg||
pc|hK|pc|h3|pg||
pc|h4|pc|hJ|nt|ady: 2 hearts and 1 spade  |pg||
pc|h5|pc|hT|pg||
nt|barnets: 4@H went down a trick where Monaco made 2@Dx so that was 4 imps|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c8|pc|d6|pc|c4|pg||
pc|sQ|mc|10|pg||
qx|o23|st||md|1SJHAKJ5DAJ643CKJ7,SK753HT9DQT7C8653,ST86HQ862DK85CQT2,SAQ942H743D92CA94|sv|b|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|1S|nt|ritong: probable splinter here|pg||
nt|fabsayc: can he, before their splinters showed voids|pg||
nt|ritong: they might have a two geared system, yes  altho the hel's angels like simplicity|pg||
mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ritong: anyways, hel1 does not care:)|pg||
nt|ritong: when hel2 probably would have preferred having better @ds|pg||
nt|fabsayc: who decides which is Hel1|pg||
nt|ritong: moi lol|pg||
pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|h9|pc|h2|pg||
pc|hK|pc|hT|pc|h6|pc|h4|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|c4|pg||
nt|fabsayc: i think the only defense to give declarer a problem on this board was repeated spade leads, and that does not work either|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d7|pc|dK|pc|d2|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h7|pc|h5|pc|s3|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d9|pc|d4|pc|dT|pg||
nt|fabsayc: net 215 france 147|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|c23|st||md|1SJHAKJ5DAJ643CKJ7,SK753HT9DQT7C8653,ST86HQ862DK85CQT2,SAQ942H743D92CA94|sv|b|mb|1D|mb|p|nt|ady: 4@H looks routine for n/s|pg||
mb|1H|mb|1S|nt|barnets: yes and 5@H is one too high|pg||
mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|barnets: 4@SX is 800|pg||
nt|ady: might have made spade cu on the way|pg||
nt|fluff:  yes 3@S splinter|pg||
nt|siladen:  3nt on board 21 in open room|pg||
pc|sA|pc|sJ|pc|s5|pc|s8|pg||
nt|granguru:  hi|pg||
nt|siladen:  a @H lead there|pg||
nt|barnets: on 21 n/s did bid 3N and west led a heart even tho partne had x @C|pg||
nt|barnets: so this just made it easier for Helgemo to make|pg||
pc|c4|nt|fluff:  who said u should help part with the lead ? :)|pg||
nt|barnets: having entry for long dimonds|pg||
nt|barnets: 11 imps to Monaco|pg||
nt|ady: Monaco 32 imps to none this session so far|pg||
nt|siladen:  really a joy to watch this match from the beggining till now|pg||
nt|jbennet: many experts claims that lead directing x is losing tactics.  |pg||
nt|fluff:  especially when p doesnt lead the suit u x :)|pg||
nt|ady: will be if partner takes no notice|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c6|nt|jbennet: But that is true if and only if p neglects it |pg||
pc|c2|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h9|pc|h2|nt|ehsana: thats Bridge........the eagle eyed move ahead :)|pg||
pc|h3|pg||
pc|hK|pc|hT|pc|h6|nt|barnets: there is also the neg inferences when partner did not X to take in|pg||
pc|h4|pg||
nt|fluff:  u need a very, very good reason not to respect p iindication|pg||
pc|d3|pc|dT|pc|dK|pc|d2|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d9|nt|siladen:  5@c for board 22 OR|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d7|pg||
nt|fluff:  if only for partnership morale|pg||
nt|barnets: http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Lille.12/microSite/Lille.htm|pg||
nt|barnets: for live scores|pg||
pc|h5|pc|c3|pc|hQ|pc|h7|pg||
pc|d8|nt|jbennet: there are some who cliams "Good players dont need lead directing x:s they will  find the right lead without it."|pg||
pc|s9|pc|d6|pc|dQ|pg||
pc|c5|pc|cT|pc|cA|pc|c7|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|o24|st||md|2SJT73HQJ9D872CJ74,SKQHT74DAQJ9CAQ32,SA964HK865DTC9865,S852HA32DK6543CKT|sv|o|nt|ritong: sigh|pg||
nt|fabsayc: italy 221 turkey 176|pg||
nt|fabsayc: i dont know usa score|pg||
nt|fabsayc: denmark 124 canada 110 in seniors|pg||
mb|1D|nt|fabsayc: usa 151 india 96|pg||
mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3D|nt|fabsayc: http://www.worldbridge1.org/tourn/Lille.12/microSite/RunningScores/ASP/knockoutphaseconditstatMultievColours.asp?qtournid=936&qphase=1|pg||
nt|fabsayc: for all live scores, thanks|pg||
nt|fabsayc: irelan 197 germany 193|pg||
mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h6|nt|fabsayc: the link does work, may be busy|pg||
nt|ritong: 6@d roughly a coinflip, anyways rejected here|pg||
pc|hA|pc|hQ|pc|h4|pg||
pc|d3|nt|ritong: needs trumps not worse than 3/1 and @c J on|pg||
pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|dT|pg||
nt|dinos1: êâà :), åñòü ññûëêà íà ñòîéêó â òåêóùèõ ìàò÷àõ?|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|s4|pc|d4|pc|d7|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|ritong: indeed, serguei|pg||
nt|dinos1: sry, private :)|pg||
pc|c9|pc|d5|pc|d8|pg||
pc|d9|pc|c5|pc|dK|pc|s7|pg||
pc|d6|nt|fabsayc: http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Lille.12/microSite/RunningScores/ASP/knockoutphaseconditstatMultievColours.asp?qtournid=936&qphase=16|pg||
nt|fabsayc: now i need to concentrate on what is happening at the table|pg||
pc|s3|pc|h7|pc|s6|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|c2|pc|c6|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c7|pc|cA|pc|c8|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|s9|pc|s2|pc|cJ|pg||
pc|c3|pc|h5|pc|h2|pc|sT|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|sA|mc|10|pg||
qx|c24|st||md|2SJT73HQJ9D872CJ74,SKQHT74DAQJ9CAQ32,SA964HK865DTC9865,S852HA32DK6543CKT|sv|o|nt|jbennet: which is nonsens. |pg||
nt|fluff:  all machos :)|pg||
mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1S|an|no major|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h6|nt|ady: heart best lead   but still 9 tricks|pg||
pc|h2|pc|hJ|pc|h4|pg||
nt|ehsana: may take 9 tricks and run|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h7|nt|barnets: 5@D also makes 11 tricks|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h3|pg||
pc|h9|pc|hT|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|dT|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|ady: may make 10th  with long club|pg||
pc|c6|pc|d4|pc|d7|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|ady: there it is   |pg||
pc|s6|pc|d5|pc|d8|pg||
pc|d9|pc|s4|pc|dK|pc|c7|pg||
nt|barnets: http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Lille.12/microSite/Results.htm|pg||
nt|1can1:  north is squeezed in 3 suits|pg||
pc|d6|pc|s3|pc|sQ|pc|c5|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|c2|pc|c8|pg||
pc|cT|pc|cJ|mc|10|pg||
qx|o25|st||md|3SKJ96HA6D98762CT7,S2H542DAKQTCJ9652,ST4HQT98D54CKQ843,SAQ8753HKJ73DJ3CA|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|nt|fabsayc: 3nt is pretty ghastly but hard to avoid|pg||
mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3S|nt|phil: hi all (indeed, Martin)|pg||
nt|ritong: salut phil|pg||
mb|p|nt|phil: hey Henri|pg||
nt|fabsayc: wolpert should pass (red flag)|pg||
nt|phil: 3N is ghastly, but in this auction where EW have stretched, Helgemo might find the hammer|pg||
nt|fabsayc: unfortunately at imps red=green most of the time|pg||
nt|phil: 3@s is forcing|pg||
nt|fabsayc: not to me|pg||
nt|d23nh3: pass|pg||
nt|ritong: i think, if darren risks 3NT, helgemo might indeed have an opinion|pg||
mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|nt|ritong: ah|pg||
nt|fabsayc: i cant buy 3@S forcing, if i have good 6-4 can bid 4@S|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|phil: the solution is really what Justin Lall plays|pg||
nt|fabsayc: the audience is very polarized on this issue|pg||
pc|sT|nt|ritong: lol phil|pg||
nt|fabsayc: but the double is clear|pg||
nt|phil: 3@c over 2N is like Lebensohl, and can be used to show a weakish 6-4 or 5-5|pg||
nt|phil: but 3@h or 3@s are forcing over 2N|pg||
nt|kit: hi everybody|pg||
nt|ritong: also, one might have conventions over 1Nt|pg||
nt|phil: hi Kit|pg||
nt|ritong: salut kit|pg||
nt|kit: looks like I missed the fun|pg||
nt|dinos1: if E's rebid were 2@d then 3@s wd show maximum so forcing, but here it's just 6-4 imo|pg||
nt|ritong: it might be, buddy|pg||
nt|fabsayc: i am sure there will be 8 more to excite us, Kit|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|s2|pg||
nt|fabsayc: kibitzers are pointing out conventional treatments to show various 6-4 hands, in the absence of those i stick to my original comment|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d2|pc|dK|pc|d5|pg||
nt|ritong: no problem with that, martin|pg||
pc|h5|nt|fabsayc: no alert needed on this double|pg||
pc|h9|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pg||
pc|d6|pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d3|pg||
nt|ritong: no, it s not conventional  just means " you re done, guys"|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|c3|pc|s3|pc|d9|pg||
pc|dT|pc|c8|pc|s5|pc|d8|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h8|nt|ritong: evidently, it undersays strong @s opposition|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h6|pg||
pc|h3|pc|s9|pc|h2|pc|hT|pg||
pc|c4|pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|c2|pg||
pc|s7|pc|sJ|pc|c5|pc|s4|pg||
pc|sK|pc|c6|pc|cK|pc|s8|pg||
nt|phil: playing the method I suggested it means you cant pattern out with a 5413 or even a 5440, but that seems less important than getting to the major game when its right|pg||
nt|fabsayc: in general lead direct doubles of 3nt often backfire, but on this particular auction is pretty clear opponents have no where to go|pg||
mc|7|nt|phil: plus they have implied limited hands|pg||
pg||
qx|c25|st||md|3SKJ96HA6D98762CT7,S2H542DAKQTCJ9652,ST4HQT98D54CKQ843,SAQ8753HKJ73DJ3CA|sv|e|nt|barnets: click live scores  choose what you want|pg||
mb|p|mb|1S|an|14+ 5!s|mb|p|mb|2C|an|gf|mb|p|mb|2D|an|4+!h|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|nt|ady: game looks to be going down for e/w|pg||
mb|2N|mb|p|nt|ady: 2@D  shows hearts?|pg||
mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|barnets: dont fancy this one|pg||
nt|ady: south might have considered doubling|pg||
nt|barnets: yes I like X|pg||
nt|ady: even though e/w were in a game forcing situation   they do sometimes go down|pg||
pc|c4|nt|barnets: of course 4@S would get X|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|c2|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d6|pc|dA|pc|d4|pg||
nt|ady: 6 obvious tricks    the remaining 3 look very difficult|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pg||
nt|siladen:  44 imps already for monaco in this round after 12 imps from board 22|pg||
pc|d2|pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|dJ|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|c3|nt|warrens:  a @D back now really annoys declarer, forcing him to pitch from dummy|pg||
nt|barnets: canada lost 1 on 21 when they played 5@C|pg||
nt|barnets: instead of 4@H|pg||
nt|barnets: that should be 22|pg||
nt|barnets: so margin now 26 for Monaco|pg||
pc|s3|pc|d7|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h8|nt|barnets: 12 imps|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|hA|pg||
pc|cT|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|s5|pg||
nt|barnets: only 7 boards left in the match after this one in this room|pg||
nt|ady: north easy exit with heart|pg||
nt|barnets: 44 V 0 so far Monaco this set|pg||
pc|cK|nt|granguru:  looks like this will give the first points in the set to the canadians...|pg||
pc|h3|pc|d8|pc|c5|pg||
pc|sT|pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|h2|pg||
nt|granguru:  we will have to wait some 15 mins to check it thou|pg||
nt|ady: down 2|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h6|pc|h5|pc|h9|pg||
pc|h7|pc|d9|nt|barnets: why should they win points here ?|pg||
pc|c6|pc|hT|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|s7|pc|s9|pc|dT|pg||
pc|c8|pc|s8|pc|sJ|pc|c9|pg||
nt|granguru:  there is a small chance that it is doubled in the other room...and still be a winning board|pg||
nt|barnets: 3N or 4@S could be xd|pg||
nt|ady: might lose points   if same contract doubled in OR|pg||
nt|granguru:  said...sorry |pg||
pg||
qx|o26|st||md|4SQ6542HKJ62D2CK96,SK98HDKQ97CAJT843,SAJT3H875DJ8543C7,S7HAQT943DAT6CQ52|sv|b|nt|fabsayc: chance for game on this hand, perhaps the last chance|pg||
nt|fabsayc: slam not game|pg||
nt|kit: I can't imagine they will get to slam -- if nothing else, off 2 keycards|pg||
mb|1H|mb|1S|mb|2C|nt|kit: And if they do get to slam, not so clear that there are 12 tricks|pg||
nt|phil: yes but with a void, West isnt going to be doing the asking|pg||
nt|dinos1: and @d lead will beat 6@c|pg||
mb|3C|mb|3H|nt|kit: West won't be happy about bidding 3NT with a single spade stopper, but what else can he do?|pg||
nt|phil: here's an article Fred wrote in the pre-BBO days that is similar to the method I mentioned: http://bbi.bridgebase.com/articles/fg/2over13.html|pg||
mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kit: North has to choose between hoping spades run (with partner having Kxxxx), or going passive and hoping South has an entry.|pg||
nt|kit: After previous double of 3NT, will Helgemo try it again?|pg||
mb|d|nt|fabsayc: on a heart lead must hop with ace|pg||
mb|4D|nt|kit: His king of clubs isnt' good, but the opponents don't know that.  And he does want a heart lead|pg||
nt|kit: And sometimes they run!|pg||
nt|fabsayc: not so clear that double asked for heart lead on this auction|pg||
nt|kit: It turns out they have a home in 5@C, but they might not have.|pg||
nt|ritong: the auction has the merit to be highly original|pg||
nt|fabsayc: you have to agree, under some rules would demand a spade lead|pg||
nt|phil: I can't ever remember doubling and wanting a spade lead|pg||
nt|ritong: not oftrn you see them run away in a new suit|pg||
nt|kit: I play that double says don't lead a spade.  Makes more sense, since would get spade lead with no double probably.|pg||
nt|phil: but there have been lots of times I've wanted another lead and wanted to send that message|pg||
nt|phil: so is double simply "don't lead a spade" or is it something more for you Kit? |pg||
mb|p|mb|5C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kit: It is don't lead a spade, listen to the auction and lead what looks right.|pg||
pc|c7|nt|kit: On this auction, it is logical that South would have some heart stuff for the double.|pg||
nt|fabsayc: the problem is that north wont always have the spade ace, here the dont lead meaning is clear from north holding|pg||
nt|phil: agree|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c6|pc|c4|pg||
pc|s7|pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg||
nt|kit: I think that experts don't double 3NT nearly often enough.  The downside is small -- if it makes, only 4 IMPs.  The upside of either a big number , getting the winning lead, or ...|pg||
nt|kit: scaring opponents out of cold 3NT, are bigger.|pg||
nt|phil: 3N doesn't get xx'd a lot either, which adds to the vig|pg||
nt|fabsayc: you missed 5@C -3 undoubled kit, and same contract doubled at other table|pg||
nt|phil: very tough for Wolpert to sit with a vulnerable spade stop and no assurance of running clubs|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|c2|pc|s4|pc|s8|pg||
nt|kit: Another point -- we aren't at the table, but likely West had difficulty bidding 3NT, and South may have picked up on that and judged a run was likely.|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|c3|pc|h5|pg||
pc|s9|pc|sT|pc|c5|pc|s5|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h6|pc|c8|pc|h7|pg||
mc|11|nt|ritong: also, the previous board resulted in +500 if they get that one wrong, game is over, likely|pg||
pg||
qx|c26|st||md|4SQ6542HKJ62D2CK96,SK98HDKQ97CAJT843,SAJT3H875DJ8543C7,S7HAQT943DAT6CQ52|sv|b|nt|ehsana: this segement...for monaco|pg||
mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|2N|nt|ady: movie says 3NT down 3   tht 7 tricks?|pg||
mb|p|mb|3C|nt|jbennet: looks as if 5 clubs is superior to 3nt. |pg||
nt|vugraphzbd: yes, sorry i miss something and i saw that they wrote -3 on the score|pg||
mb|p|mb|3N|nt|barnets: specially a wrongsided 3n|pg||
mb|p|mb|5C|nt|granguru:  2@S is just a F relay|pg||
mb|p|nt|barnets: 5@C is cols as cards lie|pg||
nt|barnets: cold|pg||
nt|warrens:  Might make 6@C here, but not likely to bid it (and not easy to play)|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|barnets: a diamond lead will beat 6@C|pg||
nt|barnets: in practice|pg||
nt|jbennet: Probably east had shown is shape during th process. |pg||
pc|sA|pc|s7|nt|granguru:  2@S a minor in fact|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s8|pg||
nt|jbennet: what had east shown with his bids?|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|granguru:  2NT showed 6+ @H |pg||
pc|c5|nt|jbennet: and 3NT+|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s9|pg||
pc|c2|nt|ady: 12 tricks|pg||
pc|c6|pc|cT|pc|c7|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|d2|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|d9|pc|h5|pg||
pc|cQ|mc|12|nt|granguru:  3@C was a second relay|pg||
pg||
qx|o27|st||md|1SK652HQ9873D52C98,SAQ97H2DQJT973CK6,S84H5DAK84CJT7543,SJT3HAKJT64D6CAQ2|sv|o|nt|phil: not to mention the 3N that could have been beaten with a club after the Stayman x|pg||
nt|phil: +18 is a distant memory in their minds|pg||
nt|Vugraphzay: The TD has been called|pg||
nt|Vugraphzay: Not sure what it is about|pg||
mb|2D|nt|kit: This is a chance for E-W to collect a number if they can get together.|pg||
mb|3D|nt|Walddk2:  Ekren|pg||
nt|kit: And out of trouble, so will be normal 3NT|pg||
nt|fabsayc: is there a published best defense to Ekren|pg||
mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|3N|nt|ritong: chunky @h stopper|pg||
nt|phil: :)|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c5|pc|cQ|pc|c8|pc|c6|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d5|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pg||
nt|fabsayc: http://www.chrisryall.net/bridge/weak.two/ekren-defence.htm|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c2|pc|c9|pc|cK|pg||
nt|fabsayc: suggested by a kibitzer|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|dA|pc|h4|pc|d2|pg||
pc|c4|pc|cA|pc|h3|pc|s7|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|h2|pc|h5|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h8|pc|s9|pc|s4|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|s8|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|c27|st||md|1SK652HQ9873D52C98,SAQ97H2DQJT973CK6,S84H5DAK84CJT7543,SJT3HAKJT64D6CAQ2|sv|o|nt|jbennet: yes and east 3NT ?? could that have shown ngelton spade pehaps+|pg||
nt|granguru:  looking for a 4@C fit. 2N denied 4@D cards already|pg||
mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|nt|ady: 3NT  or 4@H  both a make for e/w|pg||
mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2S|nt|fluff:  0 imps for canada since start :(|pg||
nt|ady: 5@H  bad split   but still a make|pg||
nt|ady: 4@H|pg||
nt|granguru:  2@H FG opening hand |pg||
nt|granguru:  5+ @H|pg||
mb|p|nt|granguru:  1@d 14+ unlimited|pg||
nt|granguru:  2@S nat 4+@S|pg||
nt|jbennet: 1 d natural??|pg||
nt|granguru:  1@D 5+@D 14 up or some strong bal hands |pg||
nt|jbennet: if so then it it looks natural for east to bid NT as quick as possible to secure his club holding.|pg||
mb|2N|nt|granguru:  one exception is a 4441 black singleton only case where they have just 4@D|pg||
mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|nt|barnets: on 25 Helgemo x 3N|pg||
nt|jbennet: 3 hearts ??|pg||
nt|fluff:  sing prob|pg||
nt|barnets: that is the final contract|pg||
nt|barnets: 3NX |pg||
nt|jbennet: as can be seen 3NT is water proof, but 4h might go down in an evil lie.|pg||
nt|barnets: ay put the match outof reach for the Canadians|pg||
mb|4N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|barnets: looks like 11 tricks|pg||
nt|barnets: just losing @DAK|pg||
pc|s5|nt|granguru:  2@H cant be said 5332 on a 5332 hand  |pg||
nt|barnets: in closest match Ireland lead germany by 6|pg||
nt|barnets: http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Lille.12/microSite/Results.htm|pg||
nt|barnets: for live scores|pg||
nt|barnets: it looks like he should just play on diamonds|pg||
nt|barnets: only lose if North has @DAK @SK and South the @HQ|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s3|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|granguru:  +5 in 24 for Monaco|pg||
nt|granguru:  as Canada went -2 doubled|pg||
nt|barnets: not sure I understand the play of @SA|pg||
nt|barnets: now def can threaten 4 tricks|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d6|pc|d2|pg||
nt|barnets: iwere north to have xxx hearts he could lead hearts and beat the contract now|pg||
nt|granguru:  so from a starting 154 172 for Canada (+18), we arrived at a score of 203-172 for Monaco (31)  |pg||
nt|barnets: dec has only 10 winners after koing the @DA|pg||
pc|h5|pc|hA|nt|fluff:  monaco pitching a shut out like last round of spingold vs meckwell|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h2|pg||
nt|barnets: i think thats a mistake|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c8|pc|cK|pc|c3|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|barnets: by E|pg||
pc|dA|pc|h4|pc|d5|pg||
nt|barnets: a heart now and dec is actually down|pg||
nt|barnets: too bad he hasnt got 1|pg||
nt|barnets: 11 tricks were solid on the lead|pg||
nt|barnets: by running the spade |pg||
pc|s8|pc|sJ|nt|granguru:  claim time|pg||
nt|granguru:  if S ducks declarer overtakes anyhow|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s7|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|o28|st||md|2SQ83HAJ4D7432CKQ4,S9HT653DJ86CA9873,SJ6542HK2DKT5CT52,SAKT7HQ987DAQ9CJ6|sv|n|nt|ritong: okay|pg||
nt|ritong: time to get the magic wand out, boys|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ritong: the magic baseball bat would do too|pg||
mb|p|pc|d3|nt|fabsayc: the magic here is rather limited, making 1nt|pg||
nt|phil: during the lull, if you want to look at a really cool hand, see if you would rather defend or declarer 3N on 21 with a club lead|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg||
nt|phil: I have a case of coke on standby|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h2|pg||
nt|zasanya: looking gr8|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c6|pg||
pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|h7|pc|h4|pg||
pc|dT|pc|dQ|pc|d2|pc|d6|pg||
pc|h9|pc|hJ|pc|h6|pc|d5|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d8|pc|s2|pc|d9|pg||
pc|h8|nt|ritong: so, 4 comparisons left after that one|pg||
nt|ritong: what is this famous yogi berra quote, phil?|pg||
pc|c4|pc|hT|mc|7|pg||
qx|c28|st||md|2SQ83HAJ4D7432CKQ4,S9HT653DJ86CA9873,SJ6542HK2DKT5CT52,SAKT7HQ987DAQ9CJ6|sv|n|nt|ady: East a little lucky last hand|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1D|an|!h|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|an|relais|mb|p|mb|2H|nt|granguru:  1@c 14+ 4+@C or 15-17 bal or 23+|pg||
nt|granguru:  1@D 4+@h 0-9|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|barnets: to the specs who made comments had n the @SK and diamond hons split|pg||
nt|fluff:  2h showed 15-17 ?|pg||
nt|barnets: that was what he was hoping|pg||
nt|granguru:  1@H 4@H 14-20 GF|pg||
nt|granguru:  1@S relay|pg||
mb|p|pc|d3|pc|d6|pc|dT|pc|dQ|pg||
nt|barnets: Helgemo won 5 imps with his X of 3N so score this set is 48 v 0|pg||
nt|barnets: 49  V 0|pg||
nt|fluff:  we see the difference between pros and non-pros|pg||
nt|granguru:  2@H showed minimum hand...|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s9|pc|s2|pg||
pc|sK|nt|granguru:  I am told that 1@S is not a relay really only not a min hand. |pg||
pc|s8|pc|c3|pc|s4|pg||
pc|s7|pc|sQ|nt|barnets: there are some pros in the Canadian team I think|pg||
pc|h5|pc|s5|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d4|pg||
pc|sT|pc|c4|pc|h3|pc|s6|pg||
nt|fluff:  yes, some, wolpert i think; but not L'ecuyer and demuy|pg||
nt|barnets: however Monaco are for sure 1 of the top teams in the world|pg||
nt|granguru:  well more info here: 1@S is shortness in @S 5+HCP|pg||
pc|hT|pc|hK|pc|h7|pc|h4|pg||
nt|fluff:  certainlyt not L'Ãcuyer, even though he is vastly qualified|pg||
nt|fluff:  monaco is number 1, i think|pg||
nt|barnets: coming from their success in the European Championship|pg||
nt|fluff:  and on US soil also|pg||
nt|granguru:  1@S = 6-9 in my records|pg||
nt|fluff:  and short sp also, no ?|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d9|pc|d2|pc|d8|pg||
pc|c6|nt|barnets: and the spingold 2 major competitions|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|cA|pc|c2|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h2|pc|h8|pc|hJ|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|o29|st||md|3S65HKT96DA42CQ764,SQJ32HJ83DJT95CJ9,SAK87HAQ5D873CA52,ST94H742DKQ6CKT83|sv|b|nt|ritong: "it ain t over til it s over" or something like that|pg||
nt|fabsayc: correct|pg||
nt|phil: in the interest of keeping this broadcast I will not respond to the many interesting suggestions about 21, however I will post this on bridgebase.com/forums, and you can post there ...|pg||
nt|phil: :)|pg||
nt|kit: Normal 3NT -- far from cold, but likely to make.|pg||
nt|fabsayc: but he managed the yankees, had reason to always be optimistic|pg||
nt|Vugraphzay: Amoils took a small break|pg||
nt|ritong: good  shot|pg||
nt|fluff:  canada will be shocked with results|pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|nt|fabsayc: the rule is must play 1/3 of qualifying, and 1/3 of all ko matches to be considered a full member|pg||
mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ritong: they unfortunately are somehow used to  in monaco 2003, darren's brother, gavin, missed the KO for 1VP|pg||
nt|phil: http://www.bridgebase.com/forums/topic/55025-board-21-of-canada-monaco/|pg||
nt|kit: With king of clubs onside, this is basically on getting the hearts right|pg||
nt|ritong: he played with demuy, who still is in this team, and lecuyer was too iirc|pg||
nt|kit: Difficult lead problem for East, that's for sure|pg||
nt|fabsayc: diamond king is my choice of leads|pg||
nt|alunand6:  Indonesia Women go QF after beat Turkey in sensational (64 - 5 IMP) total 197 - 187 VP Congrate|pg||
pc|c3|nt|fluff:  i once led by 64 and they tied it :)|pg||
pc|c4|pc|cJ|pc|c5|pg||
nt|kit: I think declarer might as well go up king of clubs -- he will have to at some point anyway.|pg||
nt|fabsayc: i bet there was more than 4 boards left|pg||
nt|fluff:  last 12, ended tied, played 4 more and lost, vs Fourcaudot, Marcinski, etc ; u know them ?|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d7|pc|dQ|pc|d2|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d4|pc|d5|pc|d8|pg||
pc|d6|pc|dA|pc|d9|pc|d3|pg||
nt|phil: wasnt the last set of the Spingold 52-0 too? |pg||
pc|c6|pc|c9|pc|cA|pc|c8|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|c7|nt|fluff:  yes, vs meckwell|pg||
nt|phil: (when Monaco >Nickell)?|pg||
pc|dT|pg||
nt|kit: Now will have to guess the hearts -- he will probably get it right, since East known to have only 3 diamonds.|pg||
pc|sT|pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|sA|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h2|pc|h6|pc|h3|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|h9|pc|h8|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h7|pc|hK|pc|hJ|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|c29|st||md|3S65HKT96DA42CQ764,SQJ32HJ83DJT95CJ9,SAK87HAQ5D873CA52,ST94H742DKQ6CKT83|sv|b|nt|fluff:  canadians not to be ashamed; if meckwell can lose 54-0 in 16 brds, they can too :)|pg||
nt|granguru:  even more info: doubleton @S if 8-9 singleton if 6-9 void if 4-9..no wonder their impressive precision bidding|pg||
mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1D|an|4+!h|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|barnets: Only 1 close match ireland by 6 over Germany|pg||
nt|barnets: http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Lille.12/microSite/Results.htm|pg||
nt|fluff:  and not on VG|pg||
nt|granguru:  Italy beat once (2004?) USA in a final segment by 53-0 or so|pg||
pc|sT|nt|ady: should just get home on the lay|pg||
nt|granguru:  it was 2003 I am said|pg||
nt|fluff:  i know my friend Nicolas will be not be happy|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|sA|pg||
nt|fluff:  h is very competitive and fiery; demuy is cooler|pg||
nt|barnets: In the women USA have got within 10 of Poland after being 60 down|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|c9|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c8|pc|cQ|pc|cJ|pg||
nt|barnets: and England by 9 over China |pg||
pc|c6|pc|h3|pc|c5|pc|cT|pg||
nt|barnets: these matches would have been interesting to watch|pg||
nt|fluff:  rite|pg||
nt|fluff:  this match was supposed to be inteeresting too :(|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d2|pc|dJ|pc|d8|pg||
nt|barnets: 54 v 3 for USA women v Poland this set with 6 boards still to score|pg||
nt|barnets: down by 10|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c7|pc|s3|pc|d3|pg||
pc|d6|nt|granguru:  nerves and stamina play a role at this stages...italians are pretty good at them|pg||
nt|barnets: on 26 we saw here USA women bid and made 6@C and Poland went down for 16 imps|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d9|pc|d7|pg||
pc|d5|pc|s7|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pg||
nt|fluff:  especially stamina, to be accustomed to lomg and tough matches|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h8|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h4|pc|h9|pc|hJ|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|o30|st||md|4ST987HAQ4DQ7CA942,SA653HJ2D82CKQJ73,SK42HKT86DAKJTCT6,SQJH9753D96543C85|sv|o|nt|ritong: hm|pg||
nt|ritong: well...|pg||
nt|phil: are we stuck? |pg||
nt|fabsayc: Lineup for QF: IRE-RUS; USA-SWE; POL-ITA; NED-MON|pg||
mb|p|nt|granguru:  A chance for Canada to earn 1 IMP|pg||
mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|3N|nt|ritong: awesome.|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ritong: just what they need|pg||
pc|c8|pc|c2|pc|cJ|pc|c6|pg||
nt|kit: Hardly fair -- when Canada doubles 3NT, it is cold.|pg||
nt|fabsayc: i agree with the bid given the score|pg||
nt|granguru:  but looks like they lost it by doubling |pg||
pc|s6|pc|s4|pc|sJ|pc|s7|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c4|nt|phil: he might get squeezed for the overberry if plays another low spade|pg||
nt|phil: nah, nm|pg||
nt|fabsayc: but this is the kind of double you should not make under normal circumstances|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|cT|pg||
pc|s3|nt|fabsayc: results not final, but likely|pg||
nt|kit: Is it right to duck second club -- now might have to guess spades when had 9 top tricks.|pg||
pc|sK|pc|sQ|pc|s8|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d7|nt|kit: I think double is okay -- club lead could easily be difference between making and down.|pg||
pc|d2|pg||
pc|dK|nt|ritong: i would double 3NT, and i suspect kit would do too|pg||
pc|d4|pc|dQ|pc|d8|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d5|nt|ritong: ya|pg||
pc|s9|nt|ritong: you lack @c 10 or 9, okay, but still|pg||
pc|c3|pg||
pc|dT|pc|d6|pc|sT|pc|s5|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h3|pc|hQ|pc|h2|pg||
pc|hA|pc|hJ|pc|h8|mc|10|pg||
qx|c30|st||md|4ST987HAQ4DQ7CA942,SA653HJ2D82CKQJ73,SK42HKT86DAKJTCT6,SQJH9753D96543C85|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1D|an|!h|mb|p|nt|ady: routine 3NT for n/s     just a general push|pg||
mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2D|an|gf|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|nt|fluff:  2d artificial GF|pg||
nt|fluff:  some form of xyz, it seems|pg||
nt|ehsana: Canda losing ground after a good lead in the beginning |pg||
mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|fluff:  u can say that again... and again :)|pg||
pc|d6|nt|ady: obly 8 tricks for sure   will probably play a spade early|pg||
nt|ehsana: 8 tricks from the top not much sweat :)|pg||
nt|ehsana: 9 pls|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d2|pc|dJ|pg||
nt|barnets: on 26 the official scoresheet fom wbf site puts 620 in n/s column for ireland when it should be in e/w column|pg||
pc|s8|pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|sJ|pg||
nt|barnets: and award 18 imps to Ireland |pg||
nt|barnets: this is a mistake|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg||
pc|s7|pc|s5|nt|barnets: Ireland gained just a slam swing which is only 13 imps|pg||
pc|s2|pc|sQ|pg||
pc|c8|nt|barnets: so the running score in that match may well be wrong|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cJ|pc|c6|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cT|pc|c5|pc|cA|pg||
nt|ady: club switch saves a trick|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d8|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg||
mc|10|nt|barnets: http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Lille.12/microSite/Results.htm|pg||
nt|barnets: here is the link for the live scores 3 very close matches|pg||
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qx|o31|st||md|1SQ3H94DJT743CK974,SKT5HAT862D2CAT82,SA962HQJ3DAKQCQJ5,SJ874HK75D9865C63|sv|n|nt|fabsayc: however using Kit's rule of "find partner's suit", these doubles are less necessary|pg||
nt|phil: the comparison will not be enjoyable in a few minutes, but fortunately (?) both pairs for Canada had poor cards|pg||
nt|kit: yes, but less likely to find club lead with no double|pg||
mb|p|mb|1H|mb|d|mb|2H|mb|d|mb|3H|mb|d|mb|p|mb|4D|nt|phil: sure, why not|pg||
nt|granguru:  at the other table W was endplayed to win 2NT with NS hands|pg||
nt|granguru:  as it was hard to win due to no entries to S hand|pg||
nt|kit: Difficult hand for N-S to get plus score on, unless willing to defend 3@H doubled.|pg||
nt|fabsayc: canada may crack the score sheet|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d2|nt|granguru:  4@d -1 probably|pg||
nt|phil: looks like 6 or 8 |pg||
nt|granguru:  or -2 |pg||
nt|fabsayc: an unfortunate last set, but actually a very good result for Canada|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d5|pc|d4|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d9|pc|d3|pc|h2|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d6|nt|phil: probably -1 I think|pg||
pc|d7|nt|granguru:  yes |pg||
nt|ritong: they were extremely valiant, and deserve respect|pg||
pc|hT|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h5|pc|h4|pc|hA|pg||
pc|c2|nt|phil: that @hT seemed unnecessary|pg||
nt|dinos1: @h8 wd be enuff for SP|pg||
nt|kit: and now this might make|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c3|pc|c7|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|fabsayc: not may, will|pg||
pc|h6|pc|s2|pc|d8|pg||
pc|c4|pc|cA|pc|cJ|pc|c6|pg||
mc|10|nt|granguru:  made!|pg||
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qx|c31|st||md|1SQ3H94DJT743CK974,SKT5HAT862D2CAT82,SA962HQJ3DAKQCQJ5,SJ874HK75D9865C63|sv|n|nt|barnets: in open and womens|pg||
mb|p|mb|2H|nt|granguru:  2@H 10-13|pg||
mb|2N|mb|p|nt|granguru:  one or 2-suited hand 75% of the points concentrated in lon suit(s)|pg||
nt|barnets: now its Poland over USA women by just 6 imps|pg||
nt|granguru:  long*|pg||
nt|ady: no entry in south hand to enjoy the long diamonds|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|h5|pc|h4|pc|hA|nt|granguru:  probably -1|pg||
pc|h3|pg||
pc|h6|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|h9|pg||
pc|h7|nt|ady: west might have discard problems|pg||
nt|ady: will have to hold of A@C   and cam get end played|pg||
pc|d3|pc|h2|pc|hJ|pg||
nt|granguru:  @H6 showing 4 cards present count|pg||
nt|granguru:  xxxx|pg||
nt|ady: try clubs now  without divulging diamond strength?|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|c2|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d4|pc|d2|pg||
nt|granguru:  W can be endplayed|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d6|pc|d7|nt|ady: another club    then cash diamonds and exit  club|pg||
pc|s5|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d8|pc|dT|pc|c8|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c6|pc|c7|pc|cT|pg||
pc|c5|pc|s4|nt|ady: this may be some imps for Canada|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cA|pg||
pc|h8|pc|s2|pc|d9|pc|dJ|pg||
pc|hT|pc|s6|pc|s7|pc|c9|pg||
pc|sT|mc|8|pg||
qx|o32|st||md|2S872HT54DAK4CAQ96,S94HAQ87D762C8543,SKQJTHK63DJT8CKJT,SA653HJ92DQ953C72|sv|e|nt|phil: one more chance to get off the snide|pg||
nt|granguru:  schneider|pg||
nt|fabsayc: udca signals should rarely extend to 10|pg||
mb|p|nt|phil: sorry: schneid: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glossary_of_baseball_(G)|pg||
mb|1N|nt|granguru:  3NT contract is a std here|pg||
mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|s9|pc|sJ|pg||
pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|s4|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s8|pc|c3|pc|sT|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s6|nt|fabsayc: thanks everybody especially our operator|pg||
nt|phil: well, thanks everyone for watching|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h7|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|granguru:  well schneider comes from german SKat (and other similar games) where you double your points when opponent dont get a single trick. Skat is a game played between 3 people with bidding and play as in bridge but many more contract options... |pg||
pc|c2|pc|c6|pc|c4|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c7|pc|c9|pc|c5|pg||
pc|cT|nt|phil: thanks Martin, Kit, Henri, John and anyone I've forgotten|pg||
pc|d5|pc|cA|pc|c8|pg||
nt|Vugraphzay: My pleasure, hope to see you all tomorrow|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|d2|pc|h3|pc|d3|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d8|pc|d9|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d7|pc|dT|pc|dQ|pg||
pc|d4|nt|ritong: i think schneider is having less than half the opponent's points   getting zero is " schwartz"|pg||
pc|h8|pc|dJ|pc|h2|pg||
nt|phil: and awesome comments from some really smart kibs|pg||
mc|10|nt|ritong: merci a tous|pg||
nt|Vugraphzay: Tomorrow we'll start at 10:30 AM Paris time, 9:30 AM GMT|pg||
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qx|c32|st||md|2S872HT54DAK4CAQ96,S94HAQ87D762C8543,SKQJTHK63DJT8CKJT,SA653HJ92DQ953C72|sv|e|nt|ady: last hand of the match   thx all|pg||
nt|granguru:  this could have been avoided if W ducks trick 1|pg||
nt|barnets: yes tx all specs|pg||
mb|p|mb|1N|nt|ady: well played Monaco    |pg||
mb|p|nt|barnets: congrats to Monaco - Canada fought well for a long time|pg||
mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|barnets: and gave Monaco a big fright|pg||
nt|ady: even on the best lead of a heart  3NT  ok for n/s|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s2|pc|s9|pc|sJ|pg||
pc|sK|nt|granguru:  SO Monaco showed us a great performance to earn the classification to R8|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s7|pc|s4|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|s8|nt|ady: if west had A@S  then Q@H switch could have been a problem for declarer|pg||
pc|d7|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|hA|pc|h3|pg||
pc|h7|pc|hK|pc|h9|pc|h5|pg||
pc|sT|pc|s5|pc|hT|pc|h8|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|d2|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c3|pc|cK|pc|c2|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c7|pc|c9|pc|c4|pg||
mc|10|nt|ady: thx all     bye|pg||
nt|barnets: bye all|pg||
nt|granguru:  tks and bye all|pg||
nt|eamongall: I am saying nothing but looks like I am going to be here for 2 more days in front of this machine |pg||
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