vg|D EC 2011 Open Teams Swiss _,7_7,I,11,20,Kanin,0,Consus,0| rs|4NN=,5SWx-2,4DW-1,3NN-1,1NE-2,2SS=,4SN-1,3NS=,3NW+2,3NW+2,5HSx-2,4SE+1,5HS-1,4SE=,4SE=,4SE=,4SS+1,4SS+1,,4SN=| pn|Brekka,Zaremba,Kvangraven,Zak,Beling,Harding,Lewaciak,Fuglestad|pg|| qx|o11|st||md|1S7H6DJT43CAQJ6532,SAQJT96HQT852D2C9,SK84HA74DA986CKT8,S532HKJ93DKQ75C74|sv|o|nt|jbgood: hi all|pg|| nt|rcerreto: hi everybody|pg|| nt|bagman: Hi all|pg|| nt|stc: hi, Place 25(89VP) against place 29(86), a large win will probably qualify|pg|| mb|3C|mb|3S|mb|3N|nt|bagman: I would guess that Kanin qualifies with a win and Consus needs something better to qualify|pg|| mb|4S|nt|jbgood: 25 vs 29 - 27 teams from A go on to the KO stage|pg|| mb|4N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|jbgood: and 5 from B|pg|| pc|s3|nt|bagman: A spade lead would give the 10th trick here|pg|| nt|jbgood: and duly found|pg|| nt|rcerreto: only an unlikely @h lead would surely set|pg|| pc|s7|nt|stc: now home, down on a @H lead|pg|| nt|jbgood: 4@s was a good save|pg|| nt|bagman: South holds a good looking hand for a nonvulnerable preempt and can go to 4NT and expect to make it|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sK|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|c2|pc|c9|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c7|pc|cA|pc|h8|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|h5|pc|c8|nt|bagman: Declarer is going to run the clubs on the theory that nobody can discard correctly on 7 card suit|pg|| pc|h3|pg|| nt|jbgood: and 5@c sown i think on best defense|pg|| nt|jbgood: down|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|d2|pc|h4|pc|d5|pg|| pc|c6|pc|h2|pc|d9|pc|d7|pg|| pc|c3|nt|rcerreto: only on a @d lead, I think|pg|| nt|rcerreto: or, A@s and then @d|pg|| pc|s6|nt|bagman: The defense has to play on the assumption that the contract can be set and might give an overtrick|pg|| pc|s8|pc|h9|pg|| pc|c5|nt|jbgood: a decent win may secure any of these teams a place in the round of 32|pg|| pc|hT|pc|d6|pc|s2|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|hQ|pc|dA|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|hA|pc|hJ|pc|h6|pc|sT|pg|| mc|10|nt|stc: Consus needs more...|pg|| nt|jbgood: a phantom in the CR - still a win|pg|| nt|stc: good start for Kanin|pg|| nt|jbgood: for the Norsemen (and women)|pg|| nt|jbgood: Kanin means rabbit:)|pg|| nt|stc: who are the ladies in the team ?|pg|| nt|jbgood: in the CR|pg|| nt|jbgood: Harding and lady Bird (Fuglestad)|pg|| pg|| qx|c11|st||md|1S7H6DJT43CAQJ6532,SAQJT96HQT852D2C9,SK84HA74DA986CKT8,S532HKJ93DKQ75C74|sv|o|nt|bagman: Hi all|pg|| nt|jfaria: hi all|pg|| nt|runnerup: hi all|pg|| nt|kirp: ok looks we r ready|pg|| mb|4C|nt|kirp: hello |pg|| mb|4S|nt|Gerben42: welcome back in Poznan|pg|| nt|davpro: Morning all|pg|| nt|Walddk4: yes h missing|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Please operator|pg|| nt|roswolf: a difficult grand to bid|pg|| nt|MolvaM: it seems bochi plays in both rooms :)|pg|| nt|danilo1: Ola Joao, Hi all|pg|| nt|kirp: interesting hand to start off with, NS in @Hs, EW in @Ds|pg|| nt|runnerup: here norht has 5-6 -majors and opened-now ew shoud find 5 @d that is the goal let see|pg|| nt|glen: the problem with 4@C is that 3NT is no longer possible|pg|| mb|5C|nt|roswolf: hi all|pg|| nt|roswolf: hi all|pg|| nt|glen: the good news is that W can't show both majors as over 3@C|pg|| mb|5S|nt|hawe45: A splinter in North would do fine - in later defense|pg|| nt|jfaria: ola Danilo|pg|| nt|granguru: brogeland for Angelini team and zapadinski for Mirage arrived|pg|| nt|glen: with the @D layout, 5@C loses a @S and two @Ds|pg|| mb|p|nt|jbgood: hi|pg|| nt|davpro: Thx operator. It looked like an forcing pass-opening :)|pg|| mb|p|nt|runnerup: this is 200 -not enought but ..|pg|| mb|d|nt|davpro: Who is Brogeland playing with?|pg|| nt|roswolf: ty operator|pg|| nt|kirp: they need to take ruff quickly or 4@H makes|pg|| mb|p|nt|kirp: intersting hand to start off with|pg|| nt|granguru: this is round 6/7 of swiss stage in poznan, Poland|pg|| nt|kirp: looks like down 1 or 2|pg|| mb|p|nt|davpro: Ah- there the name came|pg|| nt|runnerup: @s ruff needed|pg|| nt|granguru: Looks like precision system in NS |pg|| mb|p|nt|hawe45: You have seen too manu bad overcalls, when you sell out with the North hand|pg|| nt|roswolf: missing the @DQ they have to diagnose they have extra trump length to compensate|pg|| nt|kirp: dangerous hand as 5@D makes EW|pg|| nt|glen: in 5@S there is a loser in each suit, and a @H ruff possible|pg|| pc|s8|nt|kirp: looks like both pairs play some version of Precision @C|pg|| nt|glen: 5-over-5 bids have approximately a 90% chance of being wrong (you should have doubled instead)|pg|| pc|s2|nt|jfaria: routine 4@s 4 those 2|pg|| pc|s7|nt|Gerben42: south hand is known as Bridge World Death Hand (BWDH)|pg|| nt|Gerben42: invitational values with 3-card support for partner|pg|| nt|bagman: South has a nice hand with spade values and N has an easy raise to game with 2 aces|pg|| nt|hawe45: East has built a trap - will remove to 5 @H, only losing 100 I think|pg|| nt|hawe45: Is there a reward for "slowest bid hand of the tournament" - without special reason...|pg|| nt|bridge_one: Hello all|pg|| nt|runnerup: hi all|pg|| nt|hawe45: Hello|pg|| nt|jfaria: Zaleski needs some results tocach up the playoffs |pg|| pc|sJ|pg|| nt|Gerben42: with Qxxxx x Axxx xxx North would pass and 4@S would be cold|pg|| nt|roswolf: 1nt played the other way round - no spade lead|pg|| pc|sA|nt|danilo1: 4@S will make (prob. +1) .. .in ev. 5@D, declarer needs to guess @H (must play 9 from hand) for -2 |pg|| nt|runnerup: very dangerous I wander if 3nt was to play or some minors|pg|| pc|s4|nt|Gerben42: but there is normally no perfect answer|pg|| pc|s3|nt|roswolf: 10 tricks are on ice here|pg|| nt|roswolf: players names will be up in a mo|pg|| nt|jbgood: going through the motions|pg|| nt|roswolf: 3 controls and west will ask for the queen|pg|| nt|roswolf: in the other room|pg|| pc|c5|pg|| nt|runnerup: looks dangerous -all tricks possible|pg|| nt|davpro: W probably showed 4@s and E might have shown 4@h. I don't know their system :(|pg|| nt|granguru: 5@C could have been made NS|pg|| mc|9|nt|roswolf: didnt bother played his pard for 3+ diamonds or the queen|pg|| nt|roswolf: 3@D may yhave promised 3+diamonds|pg|| nt|kirp: @S suit was hidden by N|pg|| pg|| qx|o12|st||md|2SA5H8642D3CA98743,SJT9842HQJDKJ65C6,SK63HA53DQ94CKJ52,SQ7HKT97DAT872CQT|sv|n|mb|2D!|mb|d|mb|2S|nt|jbgood: very good ladies|pg|| mb|3C!|mb|p|mb|p|nt|stc: no game for NS|pg|| mb|3D|mb|3H|mb|4D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|stc: one @d too much|pg|| pc|d4|nt|bagman: W likely to guess the trumps but there's still 4 top losers|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d3|nt|jbgood: the Kanin himself found his @h suit suitable for a 3 bid|pg|| pc|d5|pg|| nt|bagman: NS could have made 4@C losing 2 hearts and a diamond|pg|| nt|stc: interesting lead sacrifying a potential trump trick|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d9|pc|d7|pc|c3|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pc|c4|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h2|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cT|pc|c7|pc|c6|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pc|dJ|pg|| nt|jbgood: interesting is the correct description:)|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|h4|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|bagman: After 3@H by S, N had no trump trick in my opinion|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c12|st||md|2SA5H8642D3CA98743,SJT9842HQJDKJ65C6,SK63HA53DQ94CKJ52,SQ7HKT97DAT872CQT|sv|n|nt|eamongall: Here defence need to find the @C ruff in time to beat 4@Hs |pg|| nt|roswolf: 10 or 11 tricks operator?|pg|| nt|davpro: there was actually 12 to take (double dummie)|pg|| nt|pelu: hi all|pg|| nt|roswolf: solid start for the dutch|pg|| nt|MolvaM: good start|pg|| nt|roswolf: a fortuitous start for angelini|pg|| nt|roswolf: hu bill|pg|| nt|roswolf: hi bill:)|pg|| nt|roswolf: more spice here|pg|| nt|kirp: 1st board is not a nice way to wake up in the match|pg|| nt|kirp: slam in @Cs available here|pg|| nt|granguru: 6NT 6@s 6@c EW|pg|| nt|granguru: 6NT best contract|pg|| nt|granguru: 6@S worst one|pg|| mb|2S|nt|davpro: 10 point all around. |pg|| nt|Walddk4: Welcome Peter and Murat|pg|| nt|MolvaM: hello|pg|| nt|athene: without the @DA Nunes would likely have led fourth best|pg|| nt|granguru: do u enter S?|pg|| nt|glen: W might start with Multi if that's available, or a 2@S weak two, or pass|pg|| mb|p|nt|bridge_one: with 6/5 and only 1 defencive trick normally better to play in attack|pg|| nt|danilo1: strang - when we look in names here|pg|| nt|granguru: red vs green?|pg|| nt|glen: N has a flat hand, best to pass, and it make go all pass|pg|| mb|p|nt|Walddk1: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswrunda6.html|pg|| mb|d|nt|runnerup: perhaps east should take it away -he has got support in hearts so ..|pg|| nt|jbgood: Angelini seems to be in the A Swiss almost no matter what happens in this match|pg|| nt|roswolf: now a hand for n/s to bid|pg|| nt|runnerup: these guys have good nerves,but average players can shake a bit after start like this|pg|| nt|granguru: 2@C relay FG I think|pg|| mb|p|nt|davpro: y and Mossop will need a good result to joij them|pg|| nt|roswolf: fulvio has seen his pard's bids before|pg|| nt|glen: *may go|pg|| nt|glen: S is in there with a X, not sure what the next bid would be if N bids 3@D|pg|| mb|3N|nt|kirp: conservative pass by W|pg|| mb|p|nt|davpro: *join|pg|| nt|jbgood: 24 vps to Mossop |pg|| nt|jbgood: 3 from each group to A - the others to B|pg|| nt|pelu: hard decision by S - 4@H is down 1 and 5@c also down 1|pg|| nt|MolvaM: 5c looks good|pg|| nt|pelu: sorry 5@c making - only defense is @H lead and the @S - kill the entry for the 4. @D|pg|| nt|jfaria: 5! still cheap if opps bid game|pg|| nt|glen: 3NT does well on a @S lead|pg|| nt|glen: not as good on a @D lead|pg|| mb|p|nt|hawe45: About 12 tricks again - but lucky and only in South|pg|| nt|bridge_one: Jxxx in @D are very much - the double by Versace means balanced hand value in @S - Zaleski can reopen|pg|| nt|Walddk1: Zapadinski is playing at both tables. Could you please check, operator?|pg|| nt|kirp: not sure it is a relay, artificial and GF yes, now natural|pg|| nt|granguru: 2@s suit 3@C suit|pg|| nt|granguru: Angelini deciding to bid 4@C passint the 3N barrier|pg|| mb|p|nt|MolvaM: kibs rush in to tell me that if defence plays spades 5c cant make|pg|| nt|runnerup: @s finess off so no game on|pg|| nt|kirp: looks like game 1 down|pg|| pc|d7|nt|jbgood: then 27 from A and 5 from B go on to the KO stage|pg|| nt|davpro: They found a 6-1 fit instead of the 6-0 fit. On level higher though|pg|| nt|pelu: has to take 3x@C befor @D|pg|| nt|kirp: no blackwood here|pg|| pc|d3|nt|eamongall: the non-vul Townsend might venture an insurance 4@Hs |pg|| nt|jbgood: but I think a black suit or even NT play better than @ds|pg|| nt|davpro: y|pg|| nt|roswolf: some sort of short suit trial bid?|pg|| pc|dK|nt|MolvaM: we see all 4 hands but sometimes at the table it is not obvious to shift to spades|pg|| nt|danilo1: 5@C is on ... and good to avoid 4@H, that is tempting in 4-3 fit (single @S on 3-card side)|pg|| pc|d4|pg|| nt|bridge_one: so 2@C forcing one round|pg|| nt|hawe45: Best lead: @S King|pg|| nt|hawe45: Sorry - NORTH is declarer... - wake up|pg|| nt|pelu: yes defense has to kill @SA|pg|| nt|glen: running scores: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswrunda7.html|pg|| nt|glen: top 27 teams in Swiss A, and top 5 in Swiss B play tomorrow|pg|| nt|glen: here we have 25 against 29 in a likely elimination match|pg|| nt|glen: W is thinking, why did my partner play the beer card (@D7)?|pg|| nt|glen: is it because of the beer garden just outside|pg|| nt|glen: it couldn't be fourth best, could it?|pg|| nt|glen: E is thinking, I led fourth best, what's the problem|pg|| pc|d5|nt|roswolf: south wont get in much to lead trumps|pg|| nt|hawe45: But would also make on the @S-lead|pg|| nt|bridge_one: lead small @S possible but @H equivalent - many use to overcall 1@S in West to give the lead|pg|| nt|bridge_one: with weak 5332 i agree to pass like Versace|pg|| nt|hawe45: But an overcall would put the contract in South, so...|pg|| nt|runnerup: nothing really helps,but contracts should have been by south this time -by n= -if spade lead,but now 12|pg|| nt|bridge_one: the option between @H and @S lead is a typical problem in bridge|pg|| nt|kirp: surprise pass by both!|pg|| nt|granguru: Angelini learns lessons..not passed this time..(as he did once with 10HCP)|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|eamongall: Now defence need to get active |pg|| nt|roswolf: 2nt|pg|| nt|granguru: HI ALL|pg|| nt|MolvaM: 4s has good chances|pg|| nt|granguru: HI ALL|pg|| nt|granguru: Angelini probably showed no first red control a singleton @c support and good @s not more than 5|pg|| nt|kirp: hard to get to NT played by E, never sure of 7th @C|pg|| pc|dA|nt|MolvaM: with trump Kx inside and clubs 3-3 and the @dK safe|pg|| pc|h2|pg|| pc|d2|nt|roswolf: and wont necessarily lead one anyway:)|pg|| nt|jbgood: hi Roland and all|pg|| nt|jbgood: sry - wrong table:)|pg|| nt|jbgood: maybe 2 |pg|| pc|h4|nt|eamongall: still time |pg|| nt|bagman: N has to duck the @HK if W plays a low heart|pg|| nt|bagman: Both N and S know that there are no spade tricks to make|pg|| nt|MolvaM: even in the case of a spade shift, stuurman has to be very careful to keep all his diamonds and let his spade honor go|pg|| pc|dJ|nt|bridge_one: i prefere to lead in the suit more solid, but without a solid suit i prefere the lead from small cards - but is is only a opinion|pg|| nt|jbgood: NT is more flexible than 3@d|pg|| pc|d9|pg|| nt|bagman: They also see the clubs so they can make extra tricks only from trumps|pg|| nt|glen: spec tells me they may play 3/5 leads|pg|| pc|d6|nt|MolvaM: 46 teams playing in group A (27 will qualify), and 74 teams playing in group B (only 5 teams will qualify)|pg|| nt|kirp: win 1 imp|pg|| pc|h3|nt|kirp: ty, thought N would bit it|pg|| nt|granguru: if 5@H over 5@C there was a chance...|pg|| pc|dT|nt|athene: a stronger defence was diamond lead, heart back, then another diamond|pg|| pc|h6|pg|| pc|d8|pc|c3|nt|runnerup: ok inspite off 9 points north desided to pass 3 -right this time -perhaps 3 small trumps and too balanced nd not vulnerable make that|pg|| nt|kirp: stopped in 3@S in OR, |pg|| nt|runnerup: no he raised --ok|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|c2|pg|| nt|jbgood: an imaginative E might bid 3@c then:)|pg|| nt|glen: in which case dropping the beer card on the table was wrong|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h8|nt|kirp: N's QJ of @Cs were too good to stop in 3|pg|| nt|runnerup: so -5|pg|| nt|kirp: in OR, W overcalled, hence any finesse rated to lose|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg|| pc|cK|nt|eamongall: At another table McGann Brown have reached the happy position of having 3 vulnerable doubled undertricks available against 4@S ...they still have to collect them |pg|| pc|cT|nt|roswolf: hi john|pg|| nt|MolvaM: hi john|pg|| nt|danilo1: good play .. 2 Dummy entries for (if needed) repeated @H finess|pg|| pc|c4|nt|Gerben42: going plus got to be worth something|pg|| nt|Gerben42: so far +100 is almost worth everything|pg|| nt|Gerben42: if Madala is N then S is Rimstedt|pg|| nt|Gerben42: operator please correct S name?|pg|| pc|c6|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o13|st||md|3SQT982HKQ42DJ82C5,S3H965DK9764CJT43,SK74HJT8DQT5CAK62,SAJ65HA73DA3CQ987|sv|b|nt|jbgood: good point|pg|| mb|1C!|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|bagman: the -50 EW paid is 50 better than the par (4@DX -100); might earn a couple of IMPs|pg|| nt|jbgood: you can follow the intense fight for a place in the Round of 32 here: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswrunda7.html|pg|| nt|stc: everybody 1NT with E's hand ?|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s3|nt|bagman: Cannot X and do not like passing |pg|| pc|sK|pc|sA|pg|| nt|bagman: Dangerous, sure, but the Opps steal you blind if you pass with that|pg|| nt|jbgood: i would rather double - too little intermediates|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c5|pc|c3|nt|stc: looks like -2 or -3|pg|| nt|jbgood: cannot pass|pg|| pc|c6|pg|| nt|stc: I am also for X, AJxx and Axx in majors look OK|pg|| pc|c7|nt|bagman: We might discuss about the relative merits of X and 1NT for quite long. In my opinion both have flaws and it's just the matter of taste and style|pg|| nt|rcerreto: yes, me too|pg|| nt|jbgood: Consus went down at both tables on the prev one - so another 4 imps for kaninen|pg|| nt|stc: A @c trick stolen, he has 5 sure tricks now|pg|| pc|h4|pc|c4|pc|cK|pg|| nt|stc: Note that defense can make 4@s 2@c and least 2@h|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s6|pc|s2|pc|d4|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s5|pc|s8|pc|d6|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|h5|pc|c2|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|s9|pc|d7|pc|d5|pc|h7|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h6|pc|h8|pc|h3|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h9|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pg|| nt|bagman: The defense in control now; declarer can make the tops only now|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d9|pc|dT|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d8|pc|dK|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|hT|pc|c9|pc|hQ|pc|cJ|pg|| pg|| qx|c13|st||md|3SQT982HKQ42DJ82C5,S3H965DK9764CJT43,SK74HJT8DQT5CAK62,SAJ65HA73DA3CQ987|sv|b|nt|runnerup: took 10 -so -1 imp|pg|| nt|MolvaM: here is the link to running scores http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswleaderb.html|pg|| nt|athene: interesting 3NT call by north in the other room|pg|| nt|runnerup: look 1nt / ns|pg|| nt|granguru: 1 imp for the overtrick|pg|| nt|granguru: 4@S EW depending on the @DK winning or not.|pg|| mb|1C|nt|bagman: EW are currently 4th fighting for a medal|pg|| mb|1N|nt|kirp: the polish Club|pg|| mb|2C!|mb|2D|nt|jbgood: looks like a peaceful 3 NT by N|pg|| nt|jbgood: or S for that matter|pg|| nt|MolvaM: tokay-baldursson at the open room is a very new partnership which might explain why they couldnt find the grand|pg|| nt|athene: certainly a bit of a gamble but it paid off very nicely this time|pg|| nt|runnerup: east is not tesyed because north stoles hearts|pg|| nt|granguru: weak by N1NT |pg|| nt|jbgood: hi all|pg|| nt|granguru: weak 1NT by N|pg|| nt|kirp: unlikely to get to game now|pg|| nt|glen: 2@C is likely for the majors or some other two suited convention|pg|| mb|p|nt|kirp: rescue redbld|pg|| nt|granguru: may have specific types of hands|pg|| mb|p|nt|danilo1: looks like routine 4@H|pg|| mb|2S|nt|runnerup: normal 4 @h = with no other ideas -from anyone -looks like it ,but..|pg|| nt|granguru: 2-suited continous is one|pg|| nt|granguru: 2@c asks |pg|| nt|granguru: 2@D = @d+@H|pg|| nt|jbgood: W's pass in this context is usually forcing|pg|| nt|jbgood: but not sure with angelini|pg|| nt|granguru: accepting 1NT xx eventually|pg|| mb|p|nt|kirp: E should dble 2@C|pg|| nt|jbgood: yes|pg|| mb|p|nt|bagman: Rimsted clearly gambling with her heart suit|pg|| nt|davpro: yes. 9 easy tricks, but not the best communications...|pg|| nt|jbgood: 1 nt - 2 @h - 2 NT - 3 NT?|pg|| mb|p|nt|Gerben42: some would call it practical :)|pg|| nt|bridge_one: all colors taked by weak players :)|pg|| nt|bridge_one: North bid both, @D and @H|pg|| nt|jfaria: another routine game|pg|| nt|kirp: a @H lead is not good for defense|pg|| nt|kirp: N has 3 trix in the suit|pg|| nt|kirp: as now S can pass|pg|| pc|cJ|nt|MolvaM: misfit hand but contract seems makable|pg|| nt|roswolf: slam possible here perhaps|pg|| nt|jfaria: at least for us looking at 4 hands|pg|| nt|kirp: this will challenge N in the play|pg|| nt|granguru: took his time |pg|| nt|jbgood: but again - this prdship is not of very firm construction - so ....|pg|| nt|granguru: he "knew" S was going to say 2@d|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c7|nt|athene: 6@S would not be great here even with the @D9|pg|| nt|kirp: @Ds are sitting wrong or maybe right given lack of entries to N|pg|| pc|c5|pg|| nt|pelu: 2@S in OR|pg|| nt|athene: the point being, on a club lead, you have to draw trumps and then cash four hearts to discard a club from the north hand|pg|| nt|runnerup: they might go down here|pg|| nt|glen: declarer knows where the @S ace, but where is the @S jack|pg|| pc|s4|nt|MolvaM: the first non-alert after 3 rounds of bidding :)|pg|| pc|s5|nt|jbgood: N should know that the @c king counts for full - and bid 3 imo|pg|| nt|kirp: S is happy|pg|| pc|s9|nt|davpro: They stopped low, but if @ds are not 3-3 a higher contract would be a struggle|pg|| nt|kirp: now N has a problem|pg|| nt|granguru: a terrible contract|pg|| nt|jbgood: W will not be|pg|| nt|kirp: 100 a trick|pg|| nt|kirp: i make down 3|pg|| nt|granguru: 1@s 2@h 2@D 1@c|pg|| nt|granguru: but may be only -2|pg|| nt|jbgood: E should ask himself why E didnt jump in hearts (or bid them directly) - because he had 2 suits:)|pg|| nt|kirp: not easy lead|pg|| pc|s3|pg|| nt|danilo1: @CQ lead may create some playing options ... cashing 2 @H immediatelly may be loosing option|pg|| nt|granguru: if @c help to discard|pg|| pc|s2|nt|granguru: now -2 as said|pg|| pc|d4|nt|roswolf: although the bidding thus far is cloaked in mystery they seem to be powering into it|pg|| pc|sK|nt|Gerben42: with a bit more fortune it would have been a claimer|pg|| nt|bagman: In pairs it might not be that practical as the bonus for the game is not that big as in teams|pg|| nt|granguru: no no|pg|| nt|granguru: yes yes|pg|| nt|granguru: S ruffs @cq but loses a natural trump trick |pg|| nt|granguru: no fast entry in S hand to cross @D|pg|| nt|glen: odds are still the 1NT bidder has it, so he picks up the trump suit|pg|| nt|glen: E can win this or the next to switch to @Ds for his ruff|pg|| pc|s6|pg|| nt|bridge_one: duck this @D could be a idea|pg|| nt|hawe45: Gives the same result, if South plays safe|pg|| nt|bridge_one: but give at south the chance to fault|pg|| nt|danilo1: well done|pg|| pc|s7|nt|roswolf: 4@S MIGHT BE FINIS|pg|| nt|roswolf: and it is not sure what happened there|pg|| nt|MolvaM: at the other table, tokay asked for keycards and then asked for the trump queen apparently. why??|pg|| nt|roswolf: very true|pg|| pc|sA|nt|hawe45: Absolutely|pg|| nt|MolvaM: on the previous board|pg|| nt|athene: actually i guess it would be ok (provided the hearts come in)|pg|| pc|s8|nt|jbgood: 27 teams from A and 5 from B go to the KO stage - with no carry over|pg|| nt|jbgood: running scores: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswleaderb.html|pg|| nt|jbgood: Boye is used to playing tough contracts - but most often there is a glimmer of hope to win:) not so here|pg|| pc|d7|pg|| nt|pelu: the @D-lead gave S a fine tempo|pg|| pc|dA|nt|kirp: that looks like 6 trix for declarer|pg|| nt|granguru: 19 teams are playing for Poland|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d6|pc|d5|pg|| nt|MolvaM: west was somewhat stuck for a good lead|pg|| nt|pelu: 110 = 9 IMP for Monaco|pg|| nt|runnerup: trying to help parner well done -now surely down|pg|| pc|d3|nt|jfaria: claim is near|pg|| pc|d8|pc|dK|nt|glen: sorry, her ruff|pg|| pc|dT|pg|| pc|d9|nt|kirp: so it is down 3|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|sJ|pc|dJ|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o14|st||md|4SQ7HQJ752DJ2CAT93,S6HA9864DQ87CKQ75,SAK854HK3DAK63CJ4,SJT932HTDT954C862|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2D!|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|nt|stc: bif misfit in majors, 3NT should work|pg|| mb|3S|mb|p|nt|rcerreto: will N seat for 3NT?|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|jbgood: strange - these guys tend to bid 3 NT on most game hands|pg|| nt|bagman: If 2@D was FG, N might have tried 2NT on 2@S to see the reaction|pg|| nt|jbgood: i thin N should bid 2 NT over 2@s - and not 3@s|pg|| nt|jbgood: sry Pekka |pg|| pc|hT|nt|rcerreto: I think that S, with 3-5-1-4 would have bid 2@s over 1@s with a minimum hand|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|h3|pg|| nt|stc: W must open @c now|pg|| nt|rcerreto: 2@s is therefore likely a doubleton|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hK|nt|rcerreto: then, yes 2NT would be more appealing than 3@s|pg|| pc|s2|pc|h5|pg|| nt|stc: if not dec may come home loosing only A@h and 2@s|pg|| pc|c6|nt|bagman: Declarer hoping that the ruff was with a trump trick|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c4|pg|| nt|stc: perhaps not|pg|| nt|jbgood: Kanin won the first 3 boards - all may be lost on this one|pg|| nt|stc: but E must play a trumpo after the next @h ruff|pg|| nt|stc: of course dec may draw trump now and go down$|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h6|pc|cJ|nt|stc: good move|pg|| pc|s3|pg|| nt|stc: now TRUMP !|pg|| nt|bagman: Declarer still needs a parking place for two diamonds|pg|| pc|sJ|nt|stc: right, and ruffind with the Q@s gives defense the setting trick|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s6|pc|s4|pg|| nt|rcerreto: he needs E to be out of trumps|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|dA|pc|d4|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|dJ|pc|d8|pg|| nt|rcerreto: which is not|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d9|pc|s7|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|jbgood: his chanse was remaining trumps to be 2-2|pg|| pc|h8|pc|d6|pc|s9|pg|| mc|9|nt|bagman: No, he had still a diamond to lose|pg|| nt|rcerreto: only one @h is high|pg|| pg|| qx|c14|st||md|4SQ7HQJ752DJ2CAT93,S6HA9864DQ87CKQ75,SAK854HK3DAK63CJ4,SJT932HTDT954C862|sv|o|nt|bagman: with both spades and diamonds open 3NT requires some luck|pg|| nt|davpro: So, with less and 3-4-1-5 distibution he would always pass?|pg|| nt|jbgood: yes|pg|| nt|MolvaM: zmud has 5-5 reds again|pg|| nt|MolvaM: anyway...|pg|| nt|MolvaM: another lively hand|pg|| nt|roswolf: another freakish deal|pg|| nt|athene: west isn't quite worth 2@H i think in their style|pg|| nt|kirp: that was down 1, wasnt it|pg|| nt|kirp: it went down 2, so S led a @D back and squeezed pard|pg|| mb|p|nt|roswolf: hi all|pg|| nt|pelu: 5@h is max|pg|| nt|jfaria: slam zone|pg|| nt|kirp: VG, need to fix score on 23|pg|| nt|runnerup: yes -i think so too --this 3nt must be played by east or 5 loosers can come up|pg|| mb|p|nt|granguru: 7@S in the OR|pg|| mb|1H|nt|bridge_one: same defence in other room |pg|| nt|athene: their 2-level openers are 10-13 and only really, really huge 9-counts qualify|pg|| nt|roswolf: indeed not now here come the fireworks|pg|| nt|athene: in third seat, of course, things are relaxed a bit... :)|pg|| nt|roswolf: :)|pg|| nt|kirp: Is E's dble penalties?|pg|| nt|kirp: 7@S or 6@Ds|pg|| mb|1S|nt|athene: north will lebensohl his way to 3@H i guess|pg|| nt|roswolf: can west rdbl for blood here?|pg|| mb|p|nt|bridge_one: 2@H is limited at 9 hcp 3 cards raise|pg|| nt|roswolf: indeed|pg|| nt|MolvaM: 3rd slam hand in a row?|pg|| nt|jfaria: better in @d|pg|| nt|danilo1: if ev. 6@S ... @C lead or @H and @C switch may be vital|pg|| nt|danilo1: *is vital for defense|pg|| nt|danilo1: ... rite contract (unbeatable) is not 6@S ... but 6@D ... guess difficult to come there |pg|| nt|runnerup: so double for takeout -problems in bidding by west perhaps|pg|| nt|jbgood: sure well bid to get to the grand|pg|| mb|1N|nt|runnerup: you have to guess well to make 4 @h -but that is bedt|pg|| nt|hawe45: A poor 4 @H - but you might be forced to "guess" right|pg|| nt|bridge_one: East is evaluating what bid|pg|| nt|runnerup: this @d lead asked may help to get rid off spade looser|pg|| nt|jbgood: choice between dbl and 1 NT...|pg|| nt|jbgood: pass never an option for Boye on a near opener|pg|| nt|roswolf: lebensohl is heading n/s into danger here|pg|| nt|athene: well, whether he can or not, he didn't|pg|| mb|p|nt|roswolf: east will leap high|pg|| nt|MolvaM: leader board and running scores http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswleaderb.html|pg|| nt|roswolf: but is it high enough|pg|| nt|athene: sometimes if you redouble in these auctions you help opps because they now have more room to scramble for the best fit|pg|| mb|3N|nt|jbgood: but defense may start with 3 spades and 5 hearts|pg|| nt|roswolf: this is where south needs discipline|pg|| nt|kirp: EW play a strong @C, so this shows points|pg|| mb|p|nt|jbgood: not any more|pg|| nt|davpro: 8 quick tricks for defense here on a spade lead. 7 for declarer on that lead|pg|| nt|jbgood: 7 th in the bag|pg|| nt|athene: also you warn them with borderline hands to stay low|pg|| nt|roswolf: 3@S WHATEVER IT MEANS SEEM OVER THE TOP - WEST SHAPENS HIS AXE|pg|| nt|athene: so here for example if west had redoubled, south might well have decided his partner didn't have what was needed|pg|| nt|roswolf: sharpens|pg|| nt|jfaria: 4@c must be @d |pg|| mb|p|nt|MolvaM: lets see if they can locate the missing @d control|pg|| nt|roswolf: they should do|pg|| nt|roswolf: the flexible double|pg|| nt|roswolf: ouch is comming|pg|| mb|p|nt|bagman: Declarer needs to ruff the heart losers and discard a club on a diamond|pg|| nt|hawe45: UNDO|pg|| nt|MolvaM: spade honors not so attractive for madala|pg|| nt|roswolf: this may well be passed|pg|| nt|roswolf: south has nothing to cue and has soft club values|pg|| pc|cK|nt|kirp: I think pass followed ny pass or 3N would have been better bid by E|pg|| pc|c4|nt|roswolf: they dont have a lot of hcp to spare|pg|| nt|pelu: in OR NS in 6@H - looks like S gave a false cue bid in @D - but it was an artifical bidding over 6 round|pg|| nt|MolvaM: wow thats enterprising|pg|| nt|roswolf: i think the italians are merciful|pg|| nt|kirp: not well bid here|pg|| nt|kirp: thought this was a strong club auction|pg|| nt|jbgood: most pairs have bid to 7 - but a few rested in six, and even fewer in game|pg|| nt|glen: this lead will not trouble declarer too much|pg|| pc|c8|nt|MolvaM: in another table north could go with J2N and that might be a problem|pg|| nt|danilo1: exactelly ... if Alfredo decides to try more than 4@S ... he will not bid Diamonds :)|pg|| nt|danilo1: I believe 4@C was just cue|pg|| nt|jfaria: 456 kibs tell me 4@c is just a cue |pg|| nt|jfaria: being a cue, no way to reach @d :(|pg|| nt|Walddk1: Not likely as we only have 285 here|pg|| pc|cA|pg|| nt|roswolf: i am told they are in slam in the other room|pg|| nt|roswolf: well he still likes his hand|pg|| nt|jfaria: just a figure of speach :)|pg|| nt|danilo1: NS have done very well to enter bidding ... if South pass, EW would have time to find @D |pg|| pc|h2|nt|MolvaM: well even if diamonds are not led. no way to get rid of the 2 losers|pg|| nt|roswolf: and that is enough for norberto:)|pg|| nt|MolvaM: does 4s have any specific meaning?|pg|| nt|MolvaM: or just an old fashioned cue?|pg|| pc|h4|nt|runnerup: no fight now just posible over tricks |pg|| nt|roswolf: yes i want to bid on and i have a spade control|pg|| nt|roswolf: the latter|pg|| nt|roswolf: this seems an easy-ish make|pg|| pc|hK|nt|bagman: The @DA must be with E: if W has it, then E has the clubs|pg|| nt|hawe45: But how can you play bridge - NOT leading partners suit with Ace-x???|pg|| nt|hawe45: You MUST have seen too many bad overcalls|pg|| nt|bridge_one: 2@H now|pg|| nt|MolvaM: try both finesses and hope that the @d10 takes care of itself|pg|| nt|roswolf: the pass of 4@S said dont lead one i am told:) so he follows his own suggestion:)|pg|| nt|Walddk1: Good morning to Glen Ashton|pg|| nt|glen: hi|pg|| nt|jfaria: hard to tell probably Lauria would treat is hand as single suited..|pg|| pc|hT|pg|| nt|pelu: very controles bidding here|pg|| nt|roswolf: safe enough here|pg|| nt|athene: declarer's concern on a diamond shift is whether to finesse the @C9|pg|| nt|roswolf: now off|pg|| pc|cJ|nt|athene: but i don't think he will|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c3|nt|hawe45: Happy Christmas now|pg|| nt|bridge_one: push hand|pg|| nt|runnerup: looks srange but no spade losers went away |pg|| nt|runnerup: perhaps has been a better idea to pass and wait for partners d --but ofcause partner can pass too -but if y double partner never bids nt -because you have all spades|pg|| pc|c5|pg|| nt|glen: now careful not to use the @S Queen too early|pg|| nt|glen: 3@S + 2@H + 2@C + 2@D = making|pg|| pc|h3|nt|jbgood: as suggested Angeline bid and made 3 NT on the previous one|pg|| pc|c6|nt|MolvaM: I wont lead one :)|pg|| nt|athene: he might be considering whether to try to make the contract by playing east for the @HK|pg|| nt|roswolf: yes but east's double is a warning|pg|| nt|danilo1: as I said before ... on Bd 12 - 4@H in 4-3 fit has been very tempting ... happened in OR - and 12 IMP for Allfrey|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hA|pg|| nt|fabsayc: hi Glen|pg|| nt|glen: hi Martin|pg|| nt|fabsayc: spade best for defense now|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s4|nt|jbgood: strange that N didnt try a big spade first...|pg|| nt|roswolf: draw trumps and take the diamonf hook|pg|| nt|MolvaM: can pull trumps and discard diamonds on clubs to ruff out the king|pg|| nt|MolvaM: which also works|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sQ|pg|| nt|glen: it takes a long time for "spade best" to go from Canada to Poland|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h6|pc|d3|pc|d4|pg|| nt|bagman: Declarer wondering if he can throw E in for a club trick|pg|| pc|s7|nt|davpro: y|pg|| nt|glen: declarer heading for home with 9 tricks|pg|| pc|c7|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg|| pc|sK|nt|roswolf: the americans in the other room got caught in 4@HX|pg|| pc|s3|pc|h5|pc|h8|pg|| pc|dA|nt|roswolf: yup|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o15|st||md|1S953HKT762DT82CQ3,SKHQ95DA765CAJT42,SQ864HJ8DQJC98765,SAJT72HA43DK943CK|sv|n|nt|rcerreto: he needed the winning @h to live|pg|| nt|jbgood: right|pg|| nt|rcerreto: with @s initially 3-3|pg|| nt|jbgood: correct|pg|| mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|rcerreto: I'm unconvinced by the @h lead with 5 good trumps but that's another matter|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2D!|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|nt|stc: 6@d by E looks very good, not from W|pg|| nt|rcerreto: this treatment, to use 2@d as a GF, is gaining favour|pg|| mb|p|nt|bagman: W denying spade support quite loudly|pg|| nt|rcerreto: as loudly as possible! :)|pg|| pc|c5|nt|stc: only a @h defeats 6@d|pg|| pc|cK|nt|bagman: 6@D requires trumps 3-2 and additional luck; no crime missing it|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c4|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|s4|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|d2|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s5|nt|stc: agree, but when you need a large win in a short match you have go for luck !|pg|| pc|c2|pc|s6|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s9|pc|d6|nt|bagman: Sure, or wish that the opponents bid it and go down|pg|| pc|sQ|pg|| nt|bagman: Against Norwegians, I would go for the latter :)|pg|| nt|jbgood: :)|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h3|pc|hK|pc|h5|pg|| nt|jbgood: a decent win is enough for both these teams i think|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cA|pc|c6|mc|10|pg|| qx|c15|st||md|1S953HKT762DT82CQ3,SKHQ95DA765CAJT42,SQ864HJ8DQJC98765,SAJT72HA43DK943CK|sv|n|nt|Gerben42: after 1@C the E hand is too big for 4@H I guess|pg|| nt|bagman: NS can make a minor suit slam|pg|| nt|bagman: Maybe EW have some Namyats type of device over 1m openings|pg|| nt|Gerben42: 3N-2 was only worth 20%|pg|| nt|Gerben42: last round not finished yet?|pg|| nt|bagman: If N can show real clubs, S hand becomes very valuable with the source of tricks, heart control and trump support|pg|| nt|Gerben42: if it starts 1@C 4@H, what does S bid?|pg|| nt|Gerben42: 4NT perhaps|pg|| nt|bagman: but E has a hand where she can prevent NS from changing that information. After 1@C, E can bid 4@H and then?|pg|| nt|Gerben42: esp. tough if 1@C can be short (3 or even 2 cards)|pg|| nt|bagman: if 4NT shows primary diamonds and secondary clubs then it's the bid|pg|| nt|Gerben42: the problem with such a bid is - what will pd think it is|pg|| nt|bagman: I wouldn't be surprised if there are some other agreements for the meaning of 4NT|pg|| nt|bagman: or no agreements :)|pg|| nt|Gerben42: this is an area where regular partnerships are ahead of the game|pg|| nt|bagman: 6@HX is 500; it's better than the vulnerable game for EW so they might take the sac|pg|| nt|runnerup: 11 in both tables and we though how to make 10|pg|| nt|MolvaM: specs tell me slam makable if no @d lead|pg|| nt|MolvaM: well if you can duck a diamond and then squeeze somebody afterwards :) maybe|pg|| nt|MolvaM: not sure if this play was superior|pg|| nt|roswolf: yes|pg|| nt|roswolf: for running scores http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswleaderb.html|pg|| nt|athene: south could make 6 of a red suit here if only he could get to dummy twice (lead the @H7 picks the suit up)|pg|| nt|roswolf: there will be some fun and games here|pg|| nt|athene: sorry - of course he can do it|pg|| nt|athene: lead to @SA, and lead the small heart|pg|| nt|athene: then later get to dummy with a heart and lead a diamond to the queen|pg|| nt|athene: easy!|pg|| nt|roswolf: hmm perhaps not at the table -in the bidding|pg|| nt|athene: only needs east to have @HHx and @DKx|pg|| nt|roswolf: game not reached at the other table|pg|| nt|athene: hampson-greco playing precision so 1@D is nebulous|pg|| nt|athene: south can be very aggressive if he knows his partner actually has some diamonds|pg|| nt|athene: but not when it might just be two small|pg|| nt|roswolf: indeed these kind of hands are horrible for strong club systems|pg|| nt|roswolf: or less bill|pg|| nt|athene: well it's at least a doubleton for them i think; they use 2@D for the short diamond hands|pg|| nt|vugraphplc: Nunes call director|pg|| nt|roswolf: short of bds!?or something wrong with the last hand?|pg|| nt|vugraphplc: becouse 2nt invit or forsing |pg|| nt|athene: hmmm - they are not happy about something from the previous board, i guess|pg|| nt|athene: ah - you mean nunes was told that 2NT was showing a good hand and that is why he didn't double?|pg|| nt|danilo1: this is anothe swing possibility|pg|| nt|danilo1: meant 6@D (@S)|pg|| nt|kirp: score is really 25-10|pg|| nt|granguru: a very expensive hand|pg|| nt|granguru: which will most probably decide the winner of the match |pg|| nt|fabsayc: our postal system on rotating strikes|pg|| nt|glen: next door the other room tried the 5-2 @S fit, and ran into the 5-1 trump split|pg|| mb|p|nt|Gerben42: something to be said for 5@H overcall too|pg|| nt|bridge_one: in 4@H in other match one made one down|pg|| nt|hawe45: 5 @D N/S should end the auction|pg|| nt|roswolf: wont make much difference anyway|pg|| nt|runnerup: ns has a good score open room ew has some 2h to make|pg|| mb|1C!|nt|MolvaM: if trumps were 3-1 he would have to fall back on the @d hook|pg|| nt|granguru: 1 NT 13-15|pg|| nt|glen: that was 10 imps, bring this "elimination" match to a near tie|pg|| mb|p|nt|bagman: against a strong 1@C 5@H would be fine|pg|| nt|runnerup: 3nt also,but ew can bid more|pg|| mb|1H!|nt|roswolf: 4@S here is the likely spot|pg|| nt|roswolf: a heart partial would be sensible|pg|| mb|p|nt|bridge_one: 5@D can be beated with @S lead|pg|| nt|runnerup: no just loose that|pg|| mb|1N!|nt|runnerup: small from table |pg|| nt|jbgood: some lucky day you make 6 @s on this lot - but not today|pg|| nt|athene: 1nt now? :) - he does have seven stoppers in the unbid suit|pg|| nt|roswolf: the diamond suit now consigned to the dustbin|pg|| nt|athene: i bet a lot of partnerships don't know what a jump in 4th suit means|pg|| nt|athene: i.e. 3@D here - is that natural forcing, natural non-forcing, or what?|pg|| nt|roswolf: what is wrong with a natural 1@D RESPONSE?|pg|| nt|glen: peaceful 4@h here|pg|| nt|danilo1: NS need to stop on time (5@H still on time) ... ev. 4@S or 5@D by EW will be too expensive|pg|| nt|jfaria: 3@d ends any slam mess in N/S intentions|pg|| mb|p|nt|kirp: should make this for push|pg|| nt|runnerup: true ew can not tough clubs so looser gous so @s later|pg|| mb|3N|nt|roswolf: south is sensible|pg|| nt|MolvaM: west also :)|pg|| nt|MolvaM: would have been interesting to watch 3@dX|pg|| nt|athene: no-one ever bids a strong 7-card minor if they have a major of any description|pg|| mb|p|nt|bridge_one: after pass at 5@C @S lead became possible|pg|| nt|hawe45: Lightner...|pg|| nt|bridge_one: @S ruff, K @C - declarer lose the ruff, one @C and A@H|pg|| nt|roswolf: yup he had the colors to help him|pg|| nt|athene: i think officially in SAYC a jump in 4th suit is defined as natural and invitational|pg|| nt|glen: ok, a quiet 5@H|pg|| mb|p|nt|runnerup: ok wrong hand|pg|| nt|hawe45: No right hand|pg|| nt|bridge_one: many pair use pass at 5@C like OK to lead @C, instead DBL means to lead in another suit|pg|| nt|bridge_one: but i don't know the gadget played by E/W|pg|| nt|jbgood: investigating for a club contract (slam?) and got no reaction of a positive kind |pg|| mb|p|nt|runnerup: so it was all academical|pg|| nt|glen: 1@H likely a transfer to @S, 1NT may have denied 3+@Ss|pg|| nt|fabsayc: if you are going to play transfer advances, i think you have to open west hand with 1@D (polish+walsh style)|pg|| pc|s4|nt|bagman: Malinowski has very little defense and can hope that they go down only 3|pg|| nt|athene: but it's one of those dark corners that no-one knows about|pg|| nt|roswolf: 1-5-7-0 will not be an obvious shape to the defenders|pg|| nt|fabsayc: is close however since singleton spade is an honour|pg|| pc|s2|nt|athene: @SK to the ace, diamond finesse i guess|pg|| nt|danilo1: guess will not miss the jead after bidding :)|pg|| nt|kirp: this should make 5, for no swing|pg|| pc|s9|nt|bridge_one: now np|pg|| nt|MolvaM: trump lead effective stop a club ruff|pg|| nt|athene: fantoni might stick the @DK in|pg|| nt|roswolf: but north made a normal if aggressive raise to the vul game|pg|| nt|danilo1: *lead|pg|| pc|sK|pg|| nt|pelu: kibs - if u know EW-bidding then help us :)|pg|| nt|glen: the Qx of @C here is a help to 3NT|pg|| nt|fabsayc: the spade lead from north is strange however|pg|| pc|c2|nt|bagman: Good time to take the save; in pairs taking an 800 save against a making slam is not a way to win; normally you should take your chances and try to beat the slam|pg|| nt|jbgood: @d cue was what S did NOT want to get|pg|| nt|granguru: last hand N knowing p had 4@s cards misvalued his hand|pg|| pc|c7|nt|davpro: But from Ns view; doesn't it seem as if S hasn't got a @h cue?|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c3|pg|| pc|sA|nt|athene: now declarer is worried the @DQ might get ruffed, so he would like to lead a diamond from dummy|pg|| nt|athene: but entries are a bit on the short side|pg|| pc|s5|pc|d5|nt|jbgood: N looks to take no notice...|pg|| nt|jbgood: S bid well - N somewhat undiciplined - slam is more like a Roland one (which in the old days would be called a Norwegian slam)|pg|| nt|kirp: q@C next?|pg|| nt|kirp: knows S has another @S, so needs to take out entry|pg|| pc|s6|pg|| nt|davpro: This could take a while, but will end with 1 down...|pg|| nt|jbgood: If N has the @c Q in stead of the @d Q his hand would be better though|pg|| pc|sJ|nt|bagman: (unless the slam is such that everybody bids and makes it)|pg|| pc|s3|nt|athene: when you have a hand like south's, your worst nightmare is getting forced, losing trump control|pg|| nt|glen: spec notes this board played in 6@D by Lavazza, and is also 6@D by Kamras|pg|| pc|c4|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|MolvaM: 2 slams equalized the score|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d2|nt|roswolf: this is on track|pg|| nt|granguru: expected some losed points in @C..|pg|| pc|d7|pg|| pc|dJ|nt|glen: Kamras made 6@D, thanks to Qx of @Cs, how about Lavazza?|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d8|nt|jbgood: another swing for Angelini i reckon|pg|| nt|athene: if things go badly wrong you can end up an embarrassingly large number down|pg|| pc|d6|pg|| pc|d4|nt|granguru: lost..sorry|pg|| pc|dT|nt|athene: but all is well|pg|| pc|dA|nt|jbgood: running scores here: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/orrrunda7.html|pg|| nt|davpro: Kopecky made 6@s against Rosenthal on the j of @c lead...|pg|| pc|s8|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|h3|pc|cQ|pg|| nt|pelu: 1Nt = 6-11|pg|| nt|roswolf: an effortless 11 tricks|pg|| nt|pelu: 2@C = @C, 2@D relay|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o16|st||md|2SJ73HAKJT962D4C86,SQ2H7543DKJT2CK94,S654HQ8DA87CQT753,SAKT98HDQ9653CAJ2|sv|e|nt|stc: what do you call decent ? Consus is currently 32nd|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1S|nt|stc: for Kanin yes, they started with 3 more VP|pg|| nt|bagman: Consus have 101 and Kanin 104; Kanin in qualifying position|pg|| nt|rcerreto: this is a much better 6@d|pg|| nt|jbgood: decent is anything between 18 and 21|pg|| nt|jbgood: (or 20)|pg|| nt|rcerreto: getting there won't be easy|pg|| nt|bagman: They might miss the diamonds completely|pg|| nt|rcerreto: after S's preempt|pg|| nt|stc: after a @h preempt|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|bagman: if Brekka preempts to 4@H|pg|| mb|d|nt|rcerreto: as he duly did|pg|| nt|stc: and the obligate 4@s in fit 5-2|pg|| mb|p|nt|bagman: W might pass and take the money|pg|| mb|4S|nt|jbgood: may go all pass - not often spades behave after the preempt|pg|| nt|stc: not much money to take|pg|| nt|bagman: Sometimes partner is 5-1-3-4 and spades break badly|pg|| nt|rcerreto: should he?|pg|| nt|rcerreto: +300 wouldn't be a large reward|pg|| mb|5H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|nt|stc: for me pass is not an option|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|bagman: W should bid if he would be sure to bid to the best contract; if he cannot be sure, he might be changing decent plus to minus|pg|| pc|h5|nt|rcerreto: point is: what is "decent"?|pg|| nt|bagman: I'm not recommending pass; I'm just suggesting it as an option|pg|| nt|rcerreto: let S have 8@h as he could have|pg|| nt|jbgood: :)|pg|| nt|bagman: 300 would be decent against -100|pg|| nt|rcerreto: and you get an hefty 100|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|d6|mc|9|pg|| qx|c16|st||md|2SJ73HAKJT962D4C86,SQ2H7543DKJT2CK94,S654HQ8DA87CQT753,SAKT98HDQ9653CAJ2|sv|e|nt|bagman: If declarer planned to steal a the spade, she should have tried it before drawing trumps; the early play should have been either the steal attempt or claim -3 :)|pg|| nt|bridge_one: in other room the auction was different, so the lead was @C|pg|| nt|jbgood: nice major fits around the table|pg|| nt|jbgood: I may just have to stand corrected - i am told that Angelini in the OR also bid to 6 @s|pg|| nt|davpro: There will be (high) bidding :)|pg|| nt|MolvaM: leader board and running scores http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswleaderb.html|pg|| nt|granguru: 2@c is normally in Pre a trump ask|pg|| nt|granguru: 2@D showed min 4 cards..|pg|| mb|p|nt|roswolf: 4@S seems to be good here|pg|| nt|runnerup: a little under 1/2 game in @h so will be bidden vulnerable |pg|| nt|Walddk1: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswrunda5.html running now|pg|| nt|granguru: 8-10 usually |pg|| mb|p|nt|roswolf: this could be colorful|pg|| nt|kirp: 4@Hs went down in OR, looks close to making|pg|| mb|1S|nt|MolvaM: 2d alerted?|pg|| nt|roswolf: yeah @D:)|pg|| nt|MolvaM: ok means no 4 card spades|pg|| mb|3H|nt|bridge_one: 3@H for N/S and 3@S for E/W here|pg|| nt|runnerup: may end for double partscore swing|pg|| nt|MolvaM: thanks kibs|pg|| nt|roswolf: yes they use 1NT to show 4 spades +a longer minor|pg|| nt|MolvaM: Im told zmud-bal play the raptor convention |pg|| nt|roswolf: west has an automatic 4@S|pg|| nt|MolvaM: maybe invented by a mr raptor? :)|pg|| nt|pelu: par-contract is 6@d - 5@s and 5@d making|pg|| nt|MolvaM: west thinks abt how many spades to bid?|pg|| nt|pelu: red against green 4@S is fine|pg|| nt|roswolf: n/s comphrensively outbid the americans on the last one|pg|| nt|runnerup: yes better actually -was down anyway |pg|| nt|kirp: this is all str @C, negative 1@D |pg|| mb|p|nt|bridge_one: 2@H open probably 10/12 constructive (and 2@D multi)|pg|| nt|davpro: When preempting with 3 in a minor you normally do not have a 4 card major. Nothing said about 5 card suits :)|pg|| nt|roswolf: even on 3 rounds of trumps|pg|| mb|p|nt|jbgood: hehe|pg|| nt|roswolf: DBL presumably just shows cards|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Welcome to Gy Szalay|pg|| nt|szalay: hi all|pg|| nt|roswolf: and here a thin 3nt|pg|| nt|athene: hi|pg|| nt|roswolf: hi:)|pg|| nt|granguru: 3@D can be alternate suits that is @D+@S|pg|| nt|granguru: more @d |pg|| nt|granguru: S knows finesse is not working. can establish @C but no fast entry to dummy|pg|| nt|granguru: to throw @H|pg|| mb|d|nt|roswolf: well now judgment comes into it|pg|| nt|MolvaM: 5 level belongs to the opps :)|pg|| nt|pelu: diff to decide on 5-level|pg|| nt|roswolf: south tempted to bid 6?|pg|| nt|MolvaM: zmud cant be sure of void spades so will probably pass|pg|| nt|athene: 1@C natural (ish), strong (ish) and forcing|pg|| nt|szalay: N-S are a rare pair from Hungary: they r not from Budapest|pg|| nt|szalay: from our Sun City, Szeged, and could improve a lot thx to BBO|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Are you saying people don't play bridge outside Budapest?|pg|| mb|p|nt|pelu: for sure W cant bid 5@s - but I have been wrong before :)|pg|| nt|kirp: 4@S looks like a strange bid?|pg|| mb|4S|nt|bagman: Having showed 44 majors and getting no reaction from partner, W could show his 3 card support expecting to be in a decent trump suit|pg|| nt|jfaria: @s will prevail |pg|| nt|runnerup: strange bidding to worse game but mames now|pg|| nt|kirp: strangely enuff, its cold|pg|| nt|kirp: now with the lead|pg|| nt|kirp: play 3 trumps, then finesse in @Cs for @D pitch|pg|| nt|kirp: good bid by E!!!|pg|| nt|kirp: S is wondering how to keep down undertrix|pg|| mb|p|nt|eamongall: If anybody is following a pair you can find their probable table from the following |pg|| nt|jbgood: Boye may lead a club now and get a plus score ag 5|pg|| nt|roswolf: i think it was the @C position which influenced him more|pg|| nt|roswolf: not much to the play the club ace is right or it isnt:)|pg|| nt|athene: if west invites, east might bid it on the strength of the good club suit, even though he is minimum in terms of hcp|pg|| nt|szalay: not really, they r from Szeged and few pairs from Pecs|pg|| mb|p|nt|bagman: S wants to compete but the majors are behind her so she gives up|pg|| nt|bridge_one: Q@C help ,,, opps |pg|| mb|p|nt|szalay: Hungary is more or less Budapest orientated, bridge is even centralized|pg|| nt|athene: difficult lead problem for south|pg|| nt|glen: should be three aces and a trump|pg|| nt|runnerup: in other table declarer took advantise off that same lead to put @d looser away ,but lost control because 4-1 and K -offside in @h contract|pg|| nt|glen: 4@S works well here on the 3-3 @S breat|pg|| nt|fabsayc: rather tame bidding|pg|| nt|glen: break|pg|| pc|hA|nt|bridge_one: OK|pg|| nt|roswolf: the clubs can of course be set up here for 12 tricks|pg|| nt|pelu: 1@H - 4@D - 4@S - 5@D and 51S by Helgemo!|pg|| nt|pelu: 15 INP to Monaco |pg|| nt|MolvaM: no so easy if east ducks|pg|| nt|athene: north could have made life easier, perhaps, by doubling 1@H|pg|| nt|athene: but he finds the heart anyway|pg|| nt|roswolf: indeed|pg|| nt|athene: some play a double of these transfer responses as some sort of takeout double anyway|pg|| nt|athene: for example after nebulous 1@C - 1@H [spades], X = diamonds and hearts, and 1@S = clubs and hearts|pg|| nt|Walddk4: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswrunda3.html|pg|| nt|athene: but without special agreements of that sort i would have thought double would just be hearts and 1@S would be takeout, the same as after a transfer over 1nt|pg|| nt|szalay: Mr. Zsak is teacher of Szeged bridge, he was teacher of Mr. Cseho of other table when he attended Faculty of Medicine there. as u know: he is my psychiatrist:)|pg|| nt|kirp: unless E thinks playing for a simple @H finesse is better option!|pg|| nt|granguru: a deceptive move|pg|| nt|glen: now Benito might or might not lead his singleton @D here|pg|| nt|glen: @D lead, A, @D ruff, @H to the Q, and rats, that's ruffed!|pg|| nt|fabsayc: his rule is a bit too rigid to be the absolute truth|pg|| nt|glen: we were out in the beer garden when the TD came by to get us all back in this match|pg|| pc|h3|nt|granguru: but defense is obvious|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|jbgood: even 6@h a good save over 4@s:)|pg|| nt|jbgood: spade ace and a club takes it 1 down|pg|| nt|davpro: Defense better take their tricks at once...|pg|| nt|danilo1: 140 I believe|pg|| pc|s8|pg|| nt|jbgood: north really bid his hand to the limit:)|pg|| nt|MolvaM: 27 teams from group-A will qualify for the knockouts. and 5 teams from group-B|pg|| nt|athene: :)|pg|| nt|athene: east might try ducking in dummy and dropping the @H10 to induce north to lay down the @HK|pg|| nt|athene: but that would only work if south would lead the @H9 from @H9xx|pg|| nt|szalay: as u know: we, Hungarians try to avoid D lead vs NT|pg|| nt|athene: D = doubleton or diamond?|pg|| nt|szalay: diamond|pg|| pc|d3|nt|MolvaM: 15 how? 5s cant be made I think|pg|| nt|jfaria: peacefull partscore|pg|| pc|d4|nt|eamongall: We are covering tables 8-15 as shown on the results web page ... so the bottom 8 lines are tables H G F E A B C D in that order |pg|| nt|jbgood: @s 6 for a club now|pg|| pc|dT|nt|jbgood: Boye should be able to read that|pg|| nt|roswolf: and probably on this layout so can 6@D|pg|| pc|d8|pg|| nt|athene: declarer can't untangle his black suits here|pg|| pc|h4|nt|szalay: Diamonds for girls, u know|pg|| nt|granguru: S is trying that EW moves @S |pg|| pc|h8|nt|eamongall: http://b.poznan2011.pl/mxp/fa.html|pg|| pc|s9|nt|davpro: E could hold 764 from W view|pg|| pc|h2|pg|| nt|runnerup: some creek gift so to say|pg|| nt|glen: did declarer really skate to dummy to play another @H?|pg|| pc|sT|nt|kirp: 8 trix|pg|| nt|granguru: 1 TRICK...SUCCESS|pg|| pc|s3|nt|eamongall: this is table 13 of 15 in play tables and 3rd line from bottom of scoresheet |pg|| pc|sQ|nt|jbgood: but difficult to think that prd has 5 spades (and a @c void...)|pg|| pc|s4|pg|| nt|athene: if he unblocks the @SAK he can't get to his clubs|pg|| pc|s2|nt|pelu: sorry 5@S down 1 - so only 7 IMP|pg|| nt|szalay: time for hoping up|pg|| nt|athene: of course we can all see @DK, heart gets the job done|pg|| nt|athene: but not so easy for south|pg|| nt|szalay: I dont see any layout when small is the correct card|pg|| nt|athene: his partner might have singleton @DQ for example|pg|| nt|roswolf: indeed not|pg|| nt|szalay: he knows pd's cards|pg|| pc|s5|nt|bagman: Now E can ruff the diamond and try the heart to the K|pg|| nt|eamongall: Most pairs move to the table of the pair below them next ... ie 12 goes where 11 used to be |pg|| pc|sK|nt|jbgood: no - then the 7 for his known strenth|pg|| pc|s7|pg|| nt|glen: interesting line, requires N to have two or less @Hs, and @D ace|pg|| nt|glen: if will cash @S ace here|pg|| nt|fabsayc: but what does it gain against|pg|| pc|sA|pc|sJ|nt|roswolf: well THE RESULT IN THE OTHER ROOM SPEAKS FOT ITSELF|pg|| nt|MolvaM: wow|pg|| nt|MolvaM: amazingly 5s was made. cant see how|pg|| nt|athene: maybe the 2NT bid denied four diamonds|pg|| pc|h5|pc|s6|pg|| pc|d5|nt|jbgood: nobody would give style points for this defense|pg|| pc|hT|nt|szalay: and dummy play is a hint as well|pg|| pc|dJ|nt|bagman: The heart attempt is likely to fail as N has shown @DA and @CK already|pg|| pc|dA|pg|| nt|szalay: nice defence, anyway|pg|| pc|d7|nt|glen: it gains against boredom|pg|| pc|d6|nt|bagman: but there was nothing better to try|pg|| nt|athene: if so, that is another example of how much easier you make life for the defence when you tell them exactly what declarer has|pg|| nt|roswolf: very true|pg|| nt|glen: now bonus trump trick possible|pg|| pc|h6|nt|davpro: From declarer view E has got 2+@c, so @c to T is the only thing that might work|pg|| pc|dK|pg|| nt|bagman: NS currently the 7th; EW about that much from the bottom|pg|| pc|d2|pc|c3|nt|bridge_one: J @H A K and @C would discard a @D over the good @C in the dummy|pg|| nt|davpro: what do I know...|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|h9|pg|| pc|d9|pc|hJ|pc|c4|pc|c5|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c6|pc|cK|nt|szalay: well deserved 7 imps|pg|| pc|c7|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cT|pc|cA|pc|c8|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|hK|pc|h7|pc|cQ|pg|| pg|| qx|o17|st||md|3S7HKQT954DT9765C5,SQJ54HA73DAQCJ983,S63HJ86DK3CAKQT76,SAKT982H2DJ842C42|sv|o|nt|rcerreto: as the late Kaplan used to say:|pg|| nt|jbgood: 2 down was cheap?|pg|| nt|rcerreto: penalty doubles are meant to be left in|pg|| nt|rcerreto: take out doubles to be taken out|pg|| nt|jbgood: but he lived in the time of pen doubles|pg|| nt|rcerreto: well, not exactly|pg|| mb|1N|nt|rcerreto: Edgar wasn't a stoneage man|pg|| nt|rcerreto: he did play takeout doubles|pg|| mb|2D!|nt|jbgood: no - but doubles have expanded since then|pg|| nt|rcerreto: definitely|pg|| mb|4H|mb|4S|nt|rcerreto: another interesting board|pg|| mb|5C|nt|bagman: Here 4@S makes and 5@H is a good sac|pg|| mb|p|nt|vugraphpld: S alerted 5@c|pg|| mb|5H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|stc: 5@c must be a choice|pg|| mb|p|nt|bagman: was not for lead|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|bagman: as N was on the lead|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|s7|pg|| pc|sA|pc|h4|pc|s4|pc|s6|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|h2|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|d5|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c5|pg|| mc|10|nt|vugraphpld: N apologize to your partner|pg|| pg|| qx|c17|st||md|3S7HKQT954DT9765C5,SQJ54HA73DAQCJ983,S63HJ86DK3CAKQT76,SAKT982H2DJ842C42|sv|o|nt|hawe45: 4 @S making - good luck|pg|| nt|jbgood: playing for the singleton jack with E:) |pg|| nt|davpro: @c to T was obviously wrong if E has 2 @c...I'm sleeping|pg|| nt|jbgood: not the precentage play:)|pg|| nt|davpro: no- @c 2-2|pg|| nt|jbgood: yes|pg|| nt|jbgood: sleeping too:)|pg|| nt|roswolf: yes angelini not getting their own way|pg|| nt|kirp: so its 25-20 actually|pg|| nt|runnerup: feeling bid perhaps|pg|| nt|kirp: 25-22 sorry|pg|| nt|kirp: this looks like easy 3N NS|pg|| nt|glen: and there you have it, never a dull moment|pg|| nt|glen: clever 1NT bid in the other room|pg|| mb|2C|nt|bridge_one: 5@H 2 down|pg|| nt|granguru: Nunes went 1 off i 4@H here|pg|| nt|kirp: NS may get to game in @Hs, not a succcess|pg|| nt|kirp: 2 opening bids, hard to sotp|pg|| mb|2S|nt|roswolf: hmm mysterious|pg|| nt|pelu: @H AK |pg|| nt|MolvaM: ahh defence played @hAK|pg|| nt|szalay: funny, that I read interviews about Fantunes-Angelini affair this morning|pg|| nt|jfaria: now a choice between to major games|pg|| nt|glen: but W is not selling out cheaply here|pg|| nt|fabsayc: south is forced into a view at this turn|pg|| nt|fabsayc: still the odds are west is about to raise spades, so bidding 3@H is not unreasonable|pg|| mb|3H|nt|jfaria: sure not|pg|| nt|kirp: 1@H a transfer|pg|| nt|kirp: 1@D is unbalanced hand, so I guess N does not want to go 4 penalties|pg|| nt|glen: modern bridge: 3 value showing bids, and you have 14 high card points|pg|| mb|4H|mb|d|nt|roswolf: not a good result for hungary in the other room|pg|| nt|runnerup: ok this if any must be 3nt all around ,but I have learned not to say it aloud,because something not so normal seems to happen somewhere in all boards |pg|| mb|4S|nt|bridge_one: 4@S correct bid !|pg|| nt|MolvaM: well that was a bit of a careless defence I thk|pg|| nt|roswolf: indeed|pg|| nt|roswolf: dont like the spade overcall|pg|| nt|MolvaM: well the alternative is also not attractive|pg|| nt|jfaria: 4@d says nothing about @h i presume, just shows fit/short|pg|| nt|glen: N's pass would be forcing for most, after the 4@D shortness bid|pg|| nt|glen: now S has to decide if his hand is gold, or straw|pg|| nt|glen: W cuebids and now that lets N show @H support|pg|| nt|glen: if W had bid 4@S, N would have a choice of bidding or passing|pg|| mb|p|nt|jbgood: 5@s made on the unfortunate lead of the @c ace next door|pg|| nt|jbgood: doubled to boot|pg|| mb|p|nt|roswolf: transfer to spades|pg|| nt|roswolf: 1@H|pg|| nt|szalay: I doubt anyone could miss a game here|pg|| nt|kirp: 1@S denies 4 @Ss|pg|| mb|p|nt|runnerup: north has not found hearts obfiously -so svedish increasing lead perhaps|pg|| nt|jfaria: depending on agreement|pg|| nt|danilo1: Gold may see @C shortness ... and bid 5@S ... however, not easy choice ...|pg|| nt|kirp: my explanations are all hypothetical here, have no idea what Poles are actually playing|pg|| nt|glen: wow, S lets 4@S by with a 6-5|pg|| pc|c5|nt|bagman: E doesn't want to lead from her collection|pg|| nt|bagman: Every card might be right or wrong|pg|| nt|roswolf: but lavazza may suffer in the end|pg|| nt|szalay: and I wd like to be in 4S, anyway|pg|| nt|athene: most bid more than 1@S with four-card support but i am sure they will unravel it all|pg|| nt|roswolf: OH I COULD VERY EASILY:) |pg|| nt|szalay: this game about vulnerable bonuses, more or less|pg|| nt|roswolf: might not be good play but.....|pg|| nt|danilo1: correct action - hand looks like double fits|pg|| nt|kirp: I guess 2@Cs EW can be held to 4 trix|pg|| nt|jbgood: nunes might have won it - but forgot to pull trumps, and opps got a @d ruff|pg|| nt|fabsayc: depends how you interpret the double, does it invite a sac, i think so|pg|| pc|c3|nt|roswolf: well a simple 4@S on this one|pg|| nt|MolvaM: but congrats geoffrey for yr prediction powers|pg|| nt|jfaria: that is a nice discussion about ownership of the hand|pg|| pc|cT|nt|szalay: bridge wd be a very boring game if we could bid seen by both hands|pg|| pc|c2|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|MolvaM: u sensed that defence coming and predicted 5s making :)|pg|| nt|roswolf: this is cheeky|pg|| nt|MolvaM: wasnt a very scientific sequence|pg|| nt|MolvaM: but effective apparently|pg|| nt|MolvaM: looks like he will establish the 5th heart|pg|| nt|MolvaM: for his 10th trick|pg|| nt|roswolf: yes methinks he is very lucky|pg|| nt|jbgood: that is the legitimate downer lead:)|pg|| nt|granguru: problem is what to do with @D if you take 3 round of trumps|pg|| pc|c4|nt|pelu: easy game here - time to go for coffee :)|pg|| nt|pelu: but go fast :)|pg|| nt|MolvaM: here is the running scores and current ranking http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswleaderb.html|pg|| nt|kirp: ruff a spade and 3 rounds of trumps and hope something good happens |pg|| pc|d7|pc|c8|pg|| pc|cK|nt|kirp: oops|pg|| nt|glen: 2@Cs and a @D only, and this makes|pg|| pc|s8|nt|MolvaM: 46 teams playing in group A (27 will qualify), and 74 teams playing in group B (only 5 teams will qualify)|pg|| nt|roswolf: you need to qualify for SWISS A then:)|pg|| pc|h4|nt|szalay: I predict 3 imps for Angelini|pg|| pc|c9|pg|| pc|s2|nt|danilo1: Bd 14 - peacefull 4@S in OR too ... so no swing|pg|| nt|glen: versace not cooperating|pg|| nt|glen: he will only win third @S play|pg|| pc|s7|nt|MolvaM: goes for the crossruff|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|hawe45: Trump-lead, North then ducked the @D...|pg|| pc|s3|pg|| nt|kirp: not sure why that @S play|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s6|nt|roswolf: i oncerad a statistic -if after a normal opening bid you bid game whenever you are vul you gain on average 8+ imps unless your opps double 66% of the time!: i doubted those stats ...|pg|| nt|roswolf: at the time but i am getting more convinced the more i play/watch the game|pg|| nt|roswolf: once read|pg|| nt|granguru: for that you must end in summy and play @D to the Q ..if E takes you repeat the process|pg|| nt|jbgood: no need - Boye never got his @d ruff - I really wonder why|pg|| pc|sA|pc|h9|pg|| nt|MolvaM: ohh|pg|| nt|szalay: if u watch (and especially play) more, u know more:)|pg|| nt|kirp: declarer may only take 9 trix here.|pg|| nt|runnerup: seems to have +1 in any case anyway |pg|| nt|kirp: he does but does not know @Ds dont run|pg|| nt|kirp: may not take @C finesse as not necessary!|pg|| pc|d4|nt|danilo1: danger is too loose trump control ... or to loose @C trick ... probably -1 as will try 3 @H in West|pg|| nt|kirp: its easy here but ruffing the spade before last trump puts you in dummy for a @D lead|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pg|| mc|10|nt|granguru: 12 imps for Mirage|pg|| nt|kirp: a true mirage|pg|| nt|granguru: now up 22-18|pg|| nt|kirp: for E|pg|| pg|| qx|o18|st||md|4SQT5HQ6DA3CT98543,S973HAK9875D42CAQ,S62HJT43DK86CJ762,SAKJ84H2DQJT975CK|sv|n|nt|jbgood: Operator, was it only 2 down on 16?|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|nt|bagman: Standard Polish doctrine to open the 5 card major with the 6-5|pg|| nt|stc: as long as the partnedr plays the same :)|pg|| nt|bagman: Zaremba in a nasty situation; may go for Hamman rule|pg|| nt|bagman: which is bid 3NT if it's an option|pg|| nt|vugraphpld: 16. S claimed -2|pg|| mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4C|nt|jbgood: lots of people play a minor opening denying a 5 bagger in a major|pg|| mb|p|nt|bagman: sry, did not notice he had spade support|pg|| nt|rcerreto: maybe he forgot to be in 5|pg|| mb|4H|nt|jbgood: unless very good|pg|| mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cT|nt|rcerreto: at th end of the match, result of board 16 could change|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c6|pc|cK|pg|| pc|sA|nt|jbgood: running scores: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswrunda7.html|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s3|pc|s2|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sT|pc|s7|pc|s6|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|bagman: Declarer in danger of going down if N has Tx of spades and doubleton diamond unless draws trumps|pg|| mc|10|nt|vugraphpld: fast claim:)|pg|| nt|bagman: with trumps 3-2, no problem in the play|pg|| pg|| qx|c18|st||md|4SQT5HQ6DA3CT98543,S973HAK9875D42CAQ,S62HJT43DK86CJ762,SAKJ84H2DQJT975CK|sv|n|nt|eamongall: My good friends here McGann and Brown |pg|| nt|eamongall: they owe me several pints of guiness |pg|| nt|bridge_one: 4@S made in other room ecause duck the A in @D|pg|| nt|jbgood: 4@s and coffee time|pg|| nt|davpro: I've got coffee all the time :)|pg|| nt|roswolf: yes another hidden advantage of bidding vul games:)|pg|| mb|1D|nt|MolvaM: yes. but could be more difficult to stay in the top 27 there|pg|| nt|jfaria: dont think Forrester could win |pg|| mb|p|nt|roswolf: this could be nip and tuck|pg|| mb|1H|nt|szalay: btw I am quite glad to (present) outcome of this match. I like this guys (and secret, pls) I am not big fan of Fantunes|pg|| nt|athene: well, it's not over yet...|pg|| nt|roswolf: our lips are sealed:)|pg|| mb|p|nt|runnerup: nothing should happen here but ..|pg|| nt|athene: not by any means automatic to wander into 3nt with these NS cards|pg|| nt|szalay: wd be anyone pass with East hand?|pg|| mb|1S|nt|roswolf: indeed|pg|| nt|roswolf: i hate the overcall|pg|| nt|roswolf: yes|pg|| mb|p|nt|Walddk2: Welcome to Barbara Apel|pg|| nt|barbyh: hi all, Barbara from Las vegas|pg|| nt|runnerup: loosing 3nt or 4h no game onsome chanche in |pg|| mb|2D!|nt|szalay: may be I am alone, but dont feel any positive to overcall with hand, especially with passed pd|pg|| nt|runnerup: getting ew sacrifise for nothing|pg|| nt|kirp: Not sure I understand this action by E|pg|| nt|kirp: S should balance but this tuff|pg|| mb|p|nt|eamongall: a decent score for NS for 1NT up 2 on board 7 |pg|| nt|bagman: The spade lead was unlucky for NS|pg|| nt|athene: south might try 3@D now|pg|| mb|2S|nt|eamongall: well there is a generous lead from McGann he won;t be happy |pg|| nt|hawe45: A fast - flat - board|pg|| mb|p|nt|bridge_one: i bet 10 tricks here :)|pg|| nt|roswolf: precisely|pg|| nt|fabsayc: 2@D game force (xyz)|pg|| mb|4S|nt|athene: i would overcall for sure|pg|| nt|roswolf: after 3@D i think north has an automatic 3nt|pg|| nt|runnerup: very speculiar bidding -really like this..|pg|| nt|glen: in the other room the 1@S opening found the major fit without problem|pg|| mb|p|nt|szalay: I think 1N is a tipical underbid by underdogs vs, world classes|pg|| nt|szalay: at least 2N is sufficient|pg|| nt|athene: well, the problem is you know you don't want to play in 2nt|pg|| nt|roswolf: west has seen his pard's overcalls before|pg|| mb|p|nt|danilo1: misfit hand ... so 3NT |pg|| nt|jfaria: 3nt, what eles?|pg|| nt|granguru: SS should be -1|pg|| mb|p|nt|athene: you want to play in 1nt or 3nt or a diamond partscore|pg|| nt|jfaria: on the other hand 5@h had a chance|pg|| nt|danilo1: good conclusion by West that declarer has probably only 4-card @S (otherwise could bid 3@D) ... |pg|| pc|c9|nt|barbyh: could have heldthem to 1 less|pg|| nt|bagman: There is a theory, which states that against blind 3NT one should lead from the worse 4-carder from a 4432|pg|| nt|barbyh: against matchpoints or imps?|pg|| nt|bagman: both|pg|| nt|bagman: I don't subscribe to that theory but I was told that it was backed up by a huge simulation|pg|| nt|eamongall: The good news for McGann on the last board is some 3NT+2 company is appearing ...|pg|| nt|bagman: who knows; at least it makes leading easy|pg|| nt|barbyh: true, |pg|| nt|barbyh: well in this case lead from a club and you holdthemto 4|pg|| nt|bagman: The diamond lead (suggested by the theory) holds the contract to 4, too|pg|| nt|MolvaM: after tomorrow evening the knockouts will start with 32 teams|pg|| nt|runnerup: can he escapepe for 1 down?|pg|| nt|kirp: even on a good day i see 2 down|pg|| nt|kirp: and given his bidding, i would gues 3 or more down|pg|| nt|granguru: even -2|pg|| nt|kirp: so a small pick up for EW, but not gteed|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|kirp: we have seen down 3 morph into down 1|pg|| pc|c2|nt|glen: this @S lead reduces communication to S hand to nothing|pg|| pc|cK|pg|| nt|granguru: 3 or 4 imps....|pg|| pc|sK|nt|jfaria: played by N :)|pg|| nt|runnerup: some chance to increase spades |pg|| pc|s5|pc|s3|nt|danilo1: ... unfortunately for him ...9 and 7 behind 1086|pg|| nt|jfaria: Forrester may not see 9 tricks, but L/V have more dificulties in finding 5..|pg|| nt|danilo1: since @DK good, and @C10 coming will probably make ... sooner or later, opps must give him a trick|pg|| nt|kirp: s thinks he can N a @S ruff, but makes no sense given the 5@C bid !|pg|| pc|s2|pg|| pc|sA|nt|szalay: 2D is an option as well, but u have stopper and kinda D suit, when u dont need length help|pg|| nt|granguru: a red suit now|pg|| pc|sT|nt|granguru: not easy|pg|| nt|kirp: W cant lead a @S|pg|| pc|s7|nt|davpro: the @d losers vanished|pg|| nt|jbgood: not easy to find the @d lead|pg|| nt|davpro: nope|pg|| pc|s6|pg|| pc|dT|nt|athene: south just has a harder problem over 1@S than if east passed|pg|| nt|jfaria: I mean Gold thx|pg|| nt|kirp: a @h now and its 3 or more down|pg|| nt|kirp: good switch|pg|| nt|granguru: excelent defense by brogeland|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d2|nt|glen: will W exit with a @C?|pg|| nt|jbgood: he has to be on his toes:)|pg|| pc|dK|pg|| nt|glen: (no)|pg|| nt|granguru: angelini's turn to open @H|pg|| nt|granguru: second exelent move|pg|| nt|jbgood: but the 8?|pg|| mc|10|nt|roswolf: another poor contract but more reasonable to bid|pg|| nt|athene: that's one reason for overcalling|pg|| nt|szalay: if he has sthg extras, lets play 3N. 2D and 3D isnt bad, but very likely he will decline without AofD|pg|| pg|| qx|o19|st||md|1SKT742HADQ64CAKQT,SJHKQ832DAK532C82,SA965H9654DJ7CJ63,SQ83HJT7DT98C9754|sv|e|mb|1S|nt|rcerreto: this line would loose with Q10xx@S in N, unable to do the math but I think he played right|pg|| mb|2S!|mb|3S|mb|p|nt|bagman: He might go down with trumps 3-2 if he tried to guard against 4-1 in North|pg|| nt|bagman: so I think he played it right|pg|| mb|4S|nt|rcerreto: that's the point, you can't win both situation|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|stc: another fast claim|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d7|nt|rcerreto: an overruff by 10x looks more likely that @s 4-1 in N|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d4|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dJ|nt|jbgood: 500 registered in the current scores on 16 - so we take it that that was the result - as we thought|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d6|pg|| nt|rcerreto: ok, thanks|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s2|pg|| nt|bagman: And he might survive 4-1 with AK of spades and later being able to play a spade up if N had only 4 clubs|pg|| pc|s5|nt|jbgood: so 4 imps on 16 - and not 8|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sT|mc|11|pg|| qx|c19|st||md|1SKT742HADQ64CAKQT,SJHKQ832DAK532C82,SA965H9654DJ7CJ63,SQ83HJT7DT98C9754|sv|e|nt|bagman: I probably would have lead the @S, too :( (maybe there's something in that theory, after all)|pg|| nt|hawe45: West must play this 3 NT|pg|| nt|roswolf: more distributional hands|pg|| nt|athene: well 2@D-3@D does show a decent hand so if he has some extra hcp he will bid it anyway|pg|| nt|szalay: suddent death is coming|pg|| nt|glen: lack of entries has declarer not taking a trump finesse,but instead go for the 10 tricks|pg|| nt|fabsayc: trump finesse was dangerous actually, might score queen and diamond overruff then|pg|| mb|1S|nt|runnerup: 3nt in wrong hand so chance for Zaleski|pg|| nt|hawe45: South led a small @C, but East had to go wrong|pg|| nt|kirp: lots of potential here, but actually a part score|pg|| nt|kirp: this match has seen too many weak NTs|pg|| nt|glen: specs note on last board that taking @S finesse could result in not making the contract|pg|| mb|2H|nt|bridge_one: no|pg|| nt|MolvaM: we just love deals with a void rite? :)|pg|| nt|roswolf: :)|pg|| nt|pelu: 11 tricks in @s|pg|| nt|roswolf: hmm 3nt is unlucky to fail here|pg|| nt|szalay: but it rather looks hungarian death:(|pg|| nt|jbgood: it is not only the NTs that have been weak:)|pg|| mb|3S|nt|bridge_one: 1@D 3@D easy ...|pg|| nt|runnerup: 3nt opening not everyones choice|pg|| mb|p|nt|glen: modern bidding: three value showing bids to you, and you have 10 high card points|pg|| nt|runnerup: north didnt want open 4 @h because he was too good,but he has his 7 tricks and that is it |pg|| nt|kirp: N has too many @Ds, knows S also has them or a bad hand|pg|| nt|glen: as martin just said|pg|| mb|4S|nt|MolvaM: 2nt is?|pg|| nt|danilo1: :)|pg|| nt|jfaria: how many @h will L/V play?|pg|| nt|glen: established partnerships often use transfers over the negative double|pg|| nt|runnerup: they had 800 ta take other table but wanted to 200 away|pg|| nt|kirp: Note that 3N by E is cold|pg|| nt|granguru: rofl|pg|| mb|p|nt|jbgood: quad est demonstrandum|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|runnerup: winnig some ipms strange way|pg|| nt|hawe45: To miss this 5 @D - played by West - will bring Zaleski 8 IMP|pg|| nt|jbgood: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/orrrunda7.html enables you to follow the exciting fights for 3rd place in some of the groups|pg|| nt|glen: the angelini team is show as in 29 spot on the running scores|pg|| nt|glen: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswrunda7.html|pg|| pc|dA|nt|roswolf: this looks boring with no heart barrage|pg|| nt|MolvaM: spade fit and?|pg|| nt|pelu: 5@H could cost 500|pg|| nt|MolvaM: 5@h could just escape for down 3 I guess|pg|| nt|kirp: and by W goes down 3|pg|| nt|jbgood: (pls forgive my bad Latin)|pg|| nt|granguru: too high already|pg|| nt|kirp: quid errrat demonstratum|pg|| nt|kirp: !!!|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dT|nt|bagman: W has so much extras that he can afford to bid the game in NT instead of looking for the spades|pg|| nt|jbgood: 3 teams go to the A Swiss - and the others to B|pg|| nt|jbgood: :)|pg|| nt|jbgood: even from a kib: hunc est dimostrandum:)|pg|| pc|d4|pg|| nt|davpro: 9 tricks in NT here|pg|| nt|granguru: QUOD ERAT DEMONSTRANDUM|pg|| nt|glen: 29 spot puts the team in tomorrow's pairs event|pg|| nt|glen: now 28, so close|pg|| nt|fabsayc: 27 from A and 5 from B continue in knockout stage|pg|| pc|dK|nt|szalay: what wd u say as west? i feel it normal 1n|pg|| nt|kirp: lovely fit here, good system when pard has to play the hand|pg|| pc|dJ|nt|szalay: good lead:)|pg|| nt|athene: this match does illustrate the "game every hand" philosophy - most deals at least one pair is in game, and when one side bid game and the other didn't, the aggressive action ...|pg|| nt|athene: usually gained|pg|| nt|roswolf: @CQ followed by a diamond switch is possible|pg|| nt|glen: the knockout is hard tomorrow, 24 teams exit, 8 remain|pg|| pc|d8|nt|bridge_one: 4@D great choice by Versace|pg|| nt|roswolf: 2@S seemed to be too optimistic with no fit for pard's suit|pg|| nt|roswolf: ot @CJ:)|pg|| nt|jfaria: $1h is a real chalenge :)|pg|| nt|jbgood: tu kibs - you are truly a learned audience:)|pg|| pc|d6|pg|| nt|athene: 31 imps so far for people in game when other room played partscore|pg|| nt|szalay: btw support X instead of 2C is queationable with so nice C suit|pg|| nt|athene: many play support double is obligatory|pg|| nt|roswolf: I CERTAINLY DO|pg|| nt|athene: even with xxx and AKQJ10xx :)|pg|| nt|szalay: we opened cause we have so nice C suit|pg|| nt|szalay: I said only: questionable, may be I wd XX myself|pg|| nt|athene: nunes knows if he wins this he doesn't have much chance|pg|| nt|jfaria: 4@h I mean|pg|| nt|danilo1: why 2NT alerted ... it just shows what he has :) ... 3-card @C support, some Hcp, BAL hand - and @S stop|pg|| pc|d2|nt|runnerup: perhaps even he didnt expect mojor Q eens to table |pg|| nt|roswolf: really|pg|| nt|runnerup: 3nt not makeable i think so -entryes dead|pg|| nt|kirp: score is 36-22 for NS, this a good pickup for EW and match is not over|pg|| pc|h4|nt|athene: but ducking could lead to even more down of course|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sJ|nt|roswolf: really!?|pg|| nt|szalay: btw its the correct line if @Cs are 5-3|pg|| nt|athene: he has 8 tricks so he wants north to cash out his clubs - hoping he just loses four tricks and then has a spade-diamond squeeze|pg|| nt|fabsayc: spade finesse is more or less marked|pg|| pc|sA|nt|jbgood: i guess they play 2@c as game force - but not sure. if so, E may have regretted his pass, 3 nt always on|pg|| nt|MolvaM: 4s showed fit+limit hand|pg|| nt|roswolf: this looks -1|pg|| nt|glen: if you just alert only natural, you cut down on the number of alerts|pg|| nt|jfaria: Lauria must decide between @d and @s |pg|| nt|glen: @d ace now, and with nothing better to do, then the @C J?|pg|| nt|jfaria: Versace I mean |pg|| nt|jbgood: (and I will never try Latin again, apart from Volvo and Vademecum:))|pg|| pc|s3|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s8|nt|szalay: and try for D-S squeeze|pg|| nt|fabsayc: certainly %|pg|| pc|sT|nt|roswolf: maybe -2|pg|| nt|roswolf: obviously west thought 1@C was short ish|pg|| pc|h2|pg|| nt|bagman: Even with the bad club break, declarer has 11 tricks losing only the two aces and scoring well in the pairs|pg|| mc|11|nt|kirp: sorry 36-23|pg|| pg|| qx|c20|st||md|2SAKQ9H76DA843CAK3,S642HAQJ93DQTCQ42,SJT83H4DK752CJ985,S75HKT852DJ96CT76|sv|b|nt|jbgood: last one in the round robin |pg|| nt|jbgood: and cards lie badly for EW|pg|| nt|roswolf: We are now on the last board of the set. Thanks to our operator - Great Job! Our appreciation to all the organisers for ensuring that this fine event is brought to BBO vugraph. ...|pg|| nt|roswolf: Thanks too to my very learned fellow commentators Murat and Peter for their company and perceptive comments and to our specs whose contributions keep us on our toes.|pg|| nt|MolvaM: ok last board of the match|pg|| nt|MolvaM: next match to start in 29 minutes|pg|| nt|roswolf: We are now on the last board of the set. Thanks to our operator - Great Job! Our appreciation to all the organisers for ensuring that this fine event is brought to BBO vugraph. ...|pg|| nt|roswolf: Thanks too to my very learned fellow commentators Murat and John for their company and perceptive comments and to our specs whose contributions keep us on our toes.|pg|| nt|szalay: btw D-S squeeze is very unlikely|pg|| nt|roswolf: sorry dont agree|pg|| nt|szalay: to be honest|pg|| nt|jfaria: ducking @d helped, no need to choose between @s and @d|pg|| nt|danilo1: to note excellent play by Forrester, @D2 and not 10 ... Gold should not duck|pg|| nt|runnerup: some result here|pg|| nt|jbgood: c/o = carry over|pg|| nt|glen: and the last board of the swiss|pg|| nt|glen: for these two teams|pg|| nt|fabsayc: thanks operator, matches continue at 1am vancouver time, 3am toronto time|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|roswolf: We are now on the last board of the set. Thanks to our operator, Ilya - Great Job! Our appreciation to all the organisers for ensuring that this fine event is brought to BBO ...|pg|| nt|roswolf: vugraph. Thanks too to my very learned fellow commentators Gyorgy and Bill for their company and perceptive comments and to our specs whose contributions keep us on our toes.|pg|| mb|1C!|nt|kirp: looks like NS in OR have a huge result, so Angelini may yet win this match,as it 36-30 right now|pg|| mb|1H|nt|MolvaM: now 28 :)|pg|| nt|glen: hey, toronto is moving close to vancouver|pg|| mb|p|mb|2H|nt|bagman: EW can make here 10 tricks in NT on a club lead 11 tricks otherwise|pg|| nt|MolvaM: 5 more matches will be played tomorrow and then 27 teams from group A, and 5 teams from group B will proceed to the knockouts|pg|| nt|athene: Fantunes are sort of forced to play weak notrump as a consequence of the rest of their system|pg|| nt|kirp: both these teams look to qualify i think|pg|| nt|glen: or is it still 4am eastern?|pg|| mb|d|nt|szalay: if u know your pd is so weak for weak NT u wd pass|pg|| nt|szalay: some players have this "magic talent", others not|pg|| nt|roswolf: if they reach 4@S now north will have all the info he needs to axe|pg|| nt|kirp: this does look like 10 trix|pg|| mb|p|nt|davpro: What have I missed in the bidding?|pg|| nt|MolvaM: tomorrow we start at 10.00 hrs CET|pg|| nt|roswolf: these 2 teams will surely be in contention|pg|| nt|fabsayc: 4am eastern yes :)|pg|| nt|glen: 2@H is not much of a preemptive raise with 5 trumps|pg|| mb|3S|nt|szalay: this partnership has this "talent"|pg|| nt|roswolf: east has heard the warning bell|pg|| nt|athene: east simply discounted his @CQ on the bidding, so he is left with a nine-count|pg|| nt|roswolf: i think that was fine judgment|pg|| nt|szalay: as I watched many times: they r frequently agressive when pd has good hand, and passive when has bad one...we call it: "magican"|pg|| mb|p|nt|roswolf: :)|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|nt|pelu: only 8 trick|pg|| nt|MolvaM: good lead|pg|| nt|glen: now N has room to jump support @Ss|pg|| mb|p|nt|bagman: E bid 3NT to show the spade stopper in case W was interested in that; If W had a huge @H raise, he would not pass 3NT|pg|| nt|davpro: W probably showed a M?|pg|| nt|davpro: 2@d balanced hand , 3@c a major, 4@d ask major (according to a kib)|pg|| nt|jbgood: probably|pg|| nt|roswolf: a little optimistic but a fair shot|pg|| nt|glen: 3@S asks are you italian, 4@S=yes|pg|| nt|kirp: 4th best lead, nothing better to sooth the soul|pg|| mb|p|nt|glen: this allows non-italians to play the partscore|pg|| nt|granguru: with this trick Angelini made his contract|pg|| nt|glen: this should coast home nicely, with no nasty splits about|pg|| pc|h2|nt|pelu: @S-lead would have given the 9. trick|pg|| nt|MolvaM: normal lead actually but sometimes people dont like to lead from 5 small minors and choose a major|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hA|nt|jbgood: the curse of underleading aces|pg|| nt|davpro: :)|pg|| nt|jbgood: but still down|pg|| nt|glen: unfriendly @Ds here|pg|| nt|granguru: if N plays @S Anelini wins the match|pg|| nt|granguru: If n plays @C is it a tie|pg|| nt|granguru: @h3 suit pref signal for @C|pg|| nt|jbgood: he has 2 black suits - a 50 % ? either this or that...:)|pg|| pc|h4|pg|| nt|kirp: know pard has cards in @Hs, cant have enuff in @Ss to run the suit|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|s3|nt|pelu: but the good old rule 4. best in yout longest suit :) - and here East has indicatet 4 card @s|pg|| nt|MolvaM: right peter :)|pg|| nt|glen: will doom this|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h7|pg|| pc|sJ|nt|MolvaM: specs tell me board 17 was doubled in other room|pg|| pc|s5|nt|bagman: Declarer is going to run the diamonds hoping for too many heart discards|pg|| pc|sA|nt|MolvaM: if thats the case 5 imps more could go to monaco-Z |pg|| nt|roswolf: restart in 15-20mins|pg|| pc|s2|pg|| nt|runnerup: killing lead |pg|| nt|MolvaM: well we shall see|pg|| nt|roswolf: hmm the juniors have been brushed aside|pg|| nt|runnerup: yes so close match 36-39 probably -alot off interesting boards tx all bye|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s4|nt|danilo1: obvious @S |pg|| pc|s8|nt|davpro: Does S know who has got the @d 4?|pg|| nt|kirp: Angelini wins by 2 imps I think|pg|| pc|s7|pg|| nt|MolvaM: spade switch was needed|pg|| nt|glen: with 9 of 10 boards reported in this match, its Kanin in 18, Consus in 38|pg|| nt|glen: hungry steve (ok, hungary steve) is in 27, opp mirage in 28|pg|| pc|cA|nt|roswolf: scheduled re-start in 22mins approx from now|pg|| nt|pelu: no X when I see the bidding in OR (direct on the tabler)|pg|| nt|athene: heart to the ace and diamond up looks plausible|pg|| nt|kirp: thx all, |pg|| pc|c2|nt|roswolf: for results http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswrunda3.html|pg|| pc|c5|nt|athene: the idea is you just want to make sure of two heart tricks and if the finesses loses you might not even get two|pg|| nt|szalay: btw first 27 from swiss A, first 5 from swiss B go to KO|pg|| nt|athene: but losing finesse doesn't matter here anyway with the nice breaks in the red suits|pg|| nt|szalay: and first 8 has the right to choose opps from 9-32|pg|| nt|jbgood: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswrunda6.html for late arrived kibs|pg|| pc|c6|pg|| nt|jbgood: tu all - also for your Latin lessons! bye|pg|| nt|granguru: bye and ORA PRO NOBIS|pg|| nt|fabsayc: now diamond ace and diamond|pg|| pc|cK|nt|bagman: There's no legitimate squeeze but it costs nothing to try|pg|| nt|MolvaM: now the defensive spade trick vanishes|pg|| nt|roswolf: yes which was why it was a fair shot|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c8|nt|davpro: I need some sleep. Thx all kibs for pointing out my stupidity|pg|| nt|dburn: I doubt he cares all that much about the four, given what happened to the ace|pg|| nt|szalay: the ranking order 9-32 is decided by NOT the result, but WBF/EBL masterpoints|pg|| nt|jfaria: kind of 2 out of 3 ok, not a bad game vuln|pg|| pc|c7|pg|| pc|c3|nt|pelu: nice discarding by NS|pg|| nt|roswolf: yes careful|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|glen: only 27 teams from Swss A make KO|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cT|pg|| pc|s6|nt|jbgood: bye all|pg|| nt|davpro: bye all. I enjoyed as always.|pg|| pc|sT|pc|h8|nt|danilo1: this is last hand ... Thanks Joao, Glen ... esp. our operator, specs and players|pg|| pc|s9|pg|| nt|glen: Angelini looks out of the KO at this point|pg|| pc|cJ|mc|10|nt|jfaria: thx all|pg|| pg||