vg|A EC 2011 Open Teams Swiss _,5_7,I,21,30,Lavazza,0,Kamras,0|
rs|5DW=,3NE-1,3SS=,3SS-1,3DS-1,1NN-1,3SNx-2,3NE=,3DS=,1NS+1,4HE=,4HE=,5DS-1,2DEx-6,4HNx-3,2HN=,4HN-3,4SSx-3,4SS=,4SN=|
pn|Tokay,Upmark,Baldursson,Cullin,Kamras,Duboin,Wikner,Sementa|pg||
qx|o21|st||md|3SJ63HJ543DT9CA873,S82HKDAJ8543CJ954,SQT975HAQ9762DCT6,SAK4HT8DKQ762CKQ2|sv|n|mb|p|nt|jtr: Good afternoon people|pg||
mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1D|nt|Walddk2: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswrunda4.html|pg||
nt|jtr: We can play a little game-Guess the System|pg||
nt|brolucius: This is the 5th round of 7 of a one-day Swiss tournament, to reduce the field to 32 teams for the KO stages.|pg||
nt|jtr: Looks like standard to me|pg||
nt|Walddk2: East is  Cullin|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Cullin-Upmark are members of the strong Sweden open team|pg||
nt|jtr: Carrot Standard|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Per-Ola is his first name :)|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Cullin pls Joanna|pg||
nt|vugraphpl5: sorry :)|pg||
mb|2C|nt|Walddk2: They play a strong club system with zz responses|pg||
mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: zz  A = 3  K = 2  Q = 1|pg||
nt|brolucius: Lavazza lies high in the rankings, around 4th.|pg||
mb|3H|mb|p|nt|brolucius: Kamras are marked as 6th on the results site quoted by Roland a moment ago.|pg||
nt|Walddk2: 1@D is either negative or posive with diamonds and at least 3 zz's|pg||
nt|jtr: In that case Roland, why the 1@d response?|pg||
nt|jtr: ah ok ty|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Read above|pg||
mb|p|nt|brolucius: North-South looking for a game, despite the strong 1@C against them.|pg||
mb|d|nt|Walddk2: Welcome back to Peter Lund|pg||
mb|p|nt|pelu: hi all|pg||
nt|brolucius: E/W are also interested in game. |pg||
nt|jtr: 3NT did not work well next door|pg||
mb|4D|nt|jtr: Hello peter|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Upmark now showing the strong option of the 1@D response|pg||
mb|p|mb|5D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|brolucius: ...which is presumably game-forcing.|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Well done by the Swedes|pg||
pc|sT|nt|brolucius: A spade ruff would defeat 4@H, since there would still be a club loser. 5@H doubled is therefore too expensive.|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|s2|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Kamras is the non-playing captain, also the NPC of the Sweden open team for many years|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|c21|st||md|3SJ63HJ543DT9CA873,S82HKDAJ8543CJ954,SQT975HAQ9762DCT6,SAK4HT8DKQ762CKQ2|sv|n|nt|blum1956: hi all|pg||
nt|hedyg: good afternoon and welcome back to the 5th European Open Championships, Poznan, Poland. A Swiss teams ,Round 5/7, 10 boards / round|pg||
mb|p|mb|1N|nt|hedyg: good morning and welcome back to the 5th European Open Championships, Poznan, Poland. A Swiss teams ,Round 4/7, 10 boards / round|pg||
nt|hedyg: welcome Geoffrey Wolfarth |pg||
nt|glen: hi Hedy, Geoffrey|pg||
nt|hedyg: and Glen :)|pg||
nt|roswolf: hello:)|pg||
mb|p|mb|3N|nt|hedyg: our operator is Tadeusz|pg||
nt|roswolf: hi all|pg||
nt|hedyg: welcome Geoffrey Wolfarth |pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|roswolf: :)gm hedy|pg||
nt|hedyg: our operator is Tadeusz|pg||
nt|granguru:  hi all|pg||
nt|granguru:  hi hedy|pg||
nt|glen: what should S lead?|pg||
pc|dT|nt|ntmon: hi to everyone|pg||
nt|MolvaM: hello all|pg||
nt|hedyg: hi John|pg||
nt|glen: hi Murat :)|pg||
nt|MolvaM: hi Hedy, John|pg||
nt|MolvaM: hi Glen|pg||
nt|hedyg: Murat :)|pg||
nt|roswolf: hi everyone|pg||
nt|glen: S attacks the 6-5 suit|pg||
nt|glen: only 6 stoppers since suit splits|pg||
nt|granguru:  I feel Jxxx is the worst lead to make in a 3NT contract|pg||
nt|hedyg: http://www.bbotv.com/vugraph/ for BBO TV since BBO mobile is not working|pg||
pc|d3|pc|cT|pc|dK|pg||
nt|blum1956: 5 nj 6 tricks probably|pg||
nt|roswolf: normal contract|pg||
nt|hedyg: i feel 4th from longest and strongest works best except from an ace|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d9|pc|d4|nt|granguru:  partner must have around 8 points so my first choice is @d10 then a small @C|pg||
pc|sT|pg||
nt|ntmon: Open teams, 3rd round of Swiss just started|pg||
nt|athene: hi good morning everyone|pg||
nt|roswolf: always lead a major against this bidding :) mind you i would have led a spade:(|pg||
pc|d7|nt|hedyg: and i strongly dislike leading from a doubleton if pd didnt bid the suit|pg||
nt|glen: small @C would produce -400|pg||
pc|c3|nt|hedyg: BBO mobile is still not working so pls use: http://www.bbotv.com/vugraph/|pg||
nt|hedyg: hi Bill|pg||
nt|roswolf: hi bill|pg||
pc|d5|nt|blum1956: 5 to 6|pg||
pc|s5|pg||
pc|d2|nt|roswolf: so we would have all let this through:)|pg||
nt|hedyg: results and running scores: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswleaderb.html|pg||
pc|h5|pc|d8|pc|h2|pg||
nt|jcomyn: no problem with this but brave bid|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|c6|pc|d6|pc|c7|pg||
pc|dA|pc|s7|pc|c2|pc|c8|pg||
pc|hK|nt|hedyg: running scores: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswleaderb.html|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h8|pc|h3|pg||
pc|h6|pc|hT|pc|hJ|nt|MolvaM: so the target at the end of today is to stay at the top 27 in group A,  and top 5 in group B|pg||
pc|c4|pg||
nt|granguru:  nice deception|pg||
pc|h4|nt|hedyg: i will get the CCs|pg||
pc|s2|pc|hQ|pc|cK|pg||
nt|granguru:  but Winker didnt fall on it|pg||
pc|h7|pc|cQ|pc|s3|pc|c5|pg||
nt|roswolf: well it was defeated anyway|pg||
pc|h9|pc|s4|pc|s6|pc|c9|pg||
mc|8|nt|ntmon: 2 IMP for the effort|pg||
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qx|o22|st||md|4SAQJT54HJDQ3CK532,SK2H984DAKJ842C64,S963HAQ73D965CQJ7,S87HKT652DT7CAT98|sv|e|nt|Walddk2: Jan Kamras|pg||
nt|jtr: North had the wrong shape 5611 would beat 5@d|pg||
nt|brolucius: Just the sort of sponsor who is worth their weight in gold.|pg||
nt|pelu: Lavazza is 4. and Kamras 6.|pg||
nt|Walddk2: http://www.svenskbridge.se/e107_files/tavling/deklarationer/Cupmark2.pdf   for the EW cvonvention card|pg||
mb|p|mb|1S|mb|2D|mb|2S|mb|d|nt|pelu: 8-9 tricks in @H and @s|pg||
nt|jtr: 4@s maybe?|pg||
nt|brolucius: North wisely makes a limit response instead of a completely pointless negative double.|pg||
nt|jtr: Advance sacrifice|pg||
mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|jtr: Did well to only bid 3|pg||
nt|jtr: as the cards lie|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d7|pc|dQ|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d6|pc|dT|pc|d3|pg||
nt|brolucius: @DQ could be worthless and N/S have a very good fit in clubs. South had plenty of losers and 4@S would be too much.|pg||
nt|jtr: @c switch and declarer needs to play trumps for the top|pg||
nt|brolucius: They say you should 'always' bid a major-suit game with a 6-4 fit, but North was likely to hold only 3-card support for his 2@S raise.|pg||
nt|jtr: Assuming East ducks of course|pg||
nt|jtr: Meckwell say a 6-3 fit is enough|pg||
pc|c6|nt|brolucius: They think 22 points is enough for 3NT, though.|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Some play in 2-1 at the 4 level, Sabine Auken's Venice Cup debut for example (read today's bulletin)|pg||
nt|jtr: K and switch normall shows a singleton|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Maybe I misssed a hy-phen, sorry David|pg||
nt|jtr: normally|pg||
pc|c7|pc|c8|pc|cK|pg||
nt|pelu: down 1 in CR - @C ruff :(|pg||
nt|brolucius: I need not comment on punctuation, Roland, since we have the expert on such matters with us. |pg||
nt|Walddk2: No, Burn is not online|pg||
nt|brolucius: East has cleverly held up the @CA, maintaining communications for a possible ruff.|pg||
nt|brolucius: I meant jtr, as you will know.|pg||
nt|pelu: Kamras was decl|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h4|pc|hA|nt|jtr: It seems obvious to play Ax @s now  Tokay is a thoughtful player though|pg||
pc|h2|pg||
nt|brolucius: In 4@S, declarer would have to take the trump finesse. A mistake in 3@S, as declarer discovered at the other table.|pg||
pc|d9|pc|h5|pc|s5|pc|d2|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|s7|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|s6|pc|s8|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|c22|st||md|4SAQJT54HJDQ3CK532,SK2H984DAKJ842C64,S963HAQ73D965CQJ7,S87HKT652DT7CAT98|sv|e|nt|hedyg: 3@H X in OR|pg||
nt|granguru:  declarer saved 2 potential tricks|pg||
nt|hedyg: E thinking, has not passed yet|pg||
mb|p|nt|hedyg: EW CC: http://www.ecatsbridge.org/documents/files/ConventionCards/2010Ostend-european/OpenTeams/israel/ronpa-gino.pdf|pg||
nt|hedyg: and EW landed in 5@d|pg||
mb|2S|an| |nt|ntmon: @S partscore to EW|pg||
nt|MolvaM: 27+5 = 32 teams will qualify for the knockouts. members of the eliminated teams can enjoy the open pairs event starting tomorrow|pg||
mb|3D|nt|hedyg: NS CC: http://www.ecatsbridge.org/documents/files/ConventionCards/2010Ostend-european/OpenTeams/italy/bocchi-madala.pdf|pg||
mb|3S|mb|p|nt|woozle: 6NT has chances with a spade lead - four spades, three hearts, three diamonds, one club and a squeeze on south|pg||
nt|jcomyn: but ns might get busy in h|pg||
nt|hedyg: EW CC: http://www.ecatsbridge.org/documents/files/ConventionCards/2010Ostend-european/OpenTeams/italy/duboin-sementa.pdf|pg||
nt|MolvaM: 2s was intermediate?|pg||
mb|p|nt|ntmon: but higher suit probably wins|pg||
mb|p|nt|woozle: Fiona Brown is very cautious with her barren 11|pg||
nt|roswolf: aggressive reopening by north|pg||
pc|dA|nt|MolvaM: 10-13 I am told ok|pg||
nt|roswolf: some may have doubled as east-t/o of course|pg||
nt|MolvaM: or 11-13 I am also told  :)|pg||
pc|d5|nt|jcomyn: not yet|pg||
pc|d7|pc|dQ|pg||
nt|ntmon: .. now :)|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Wikner/Kamras: http://www.svenskbridge.se/e107_files/tavling/deklarationer/AWJK1.pdf|pg||
pc|dK|nt|roswolf: this may not play too well|pg||
pc|d6|pc|dT|pc|d3|pg||
nt|woozle: four rounds of spades now will put South through the wringer|pg||
nt|athene: bocchi knows his side has a fit - if opps have a 9-card fit you are guaranteed an 8-card fit at least - but that doesn't mean you will find it|pg||
nt|hedyg: some might bid 4@S with the W hand once he knows about 4 card support since he has no valid defense vs 4@H except the trumps|pg||
nt|roswolf: this can be defeated|pg||
nt|roswolf: the swedes on the first bd bid to 5@D for a game swing|pg||
pc|c6|pc|cQ|nt|blum1956: A player of the team which is in best 8 will hardly lead a spade against 6NT|pg||
nt|hedyg: ty Roland :)|pg||
nt|MolvaM: the bidding could well go 1@s-2@s-4@S at other tables|pg||
nt|roswolf: true|pg||
pc|c8|pc|c3|pg||
nt|jcomyn: well who does win now|pg||
nt|athene: west's defensive plan is very easy|pg||
nt|athene: just play spades and spades and spades|pg||
nt|roswolf: indeed|pg||
nt|athene: and get your three trump tricks|pg||
nt|hedyg: Ilan Herbst went 2 off in OR|pg||
nt|athene: maybe south would be better-off to double 3@S rather than bid 4@H, if he feels he has to do something|pg||
nt|roswolf: i think only -1 is likely here|pg||
pc|s9|pc|s7|pc|s4|pc|sK|pg||
nt|athene: 4@H should be a five-card suit in my opinion|pg||
pc|c4|pc|cJ|nt|hedyg: he could not do that after his pd doubled 3@S, Bill|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c2|pg||
nt|ntmon: it's probable that EW will come to 4@S on many tables either on its own or pushed, but not doubled |pg||
nt|athene: no i mean in the other room|pg||
nt|hedyg: but that would be for minors, denying 4@Hs|pg||
nt|hedyg: it is rare that pd, when he doubles 1@s, does not have 4 cards in @H|pg||
nt|roswolf: not so rare these days for the top players|pg||
nt|hedyg: we all assume pd has 4 OM when he doubles a M opening|pg||
nt|roswolf: that is true enough|pg||
pc|c9|pc|cK|pc|s2|nt|woozle: probably not, but leading from a nothing suit isn't completely safe either - can easily pick up (say) partner's queen|pg||
pc|c7|pg||
nt|jcomyn: levazza mean business by the looks of things|pg||
pc|h4|pc|hA|nt|roswolf: ace and another trump lookes obvious as he wasnt in 4|pg||
nt|glen: should declarer have played @S ace then @s|pg||
pc|h2|pc|hJ|pg||
nt|hedyg: :)|pg||
nt|athene: i think doubling just says you don't have the offensive potential in hearts to commit to bidding 4 over 3|pg||
nt|roswolf: this is not good for south|pg||
nt|roswolf: fair comment bill|pg||
nt|athene: so you  can still have auctions like 1@S X 3@S X pass 4minor pass 4@H|pg||
nt|athene: saying ok, we might want to play here, but we don't have to|pg||
nt|roswolf: running scores: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswleaderb.html|pg||
mc|8|nt|MolvaM: greed?|pg||
nt|roswolf: hmm an error by south|pg||
nt|roswolf: yup|pg||
nt|MolvaM: actually he should want the @sK to be offside|pg||
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qx|o23|st||md|1SK754HA86DA874CQ9,S98632HTDKJ3CK874,SAJHJ732DQT92C532,SQTHKQ954D65CAJT6|sv|b|nt|brolucius: The defenders did their best but declarer was too good for them. Par bridge.|pg||
nt|pelu: and 5 IMP to Lavazza on a tecnical mistake in play|pg||
mb|1D!|mb|p|nt|jtr: Or through good play here|pg||
mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|jtr: Some would rebid 1NT here but i prefer 1@s|pg||
nt|pelu: 1Nt with 6/7 both way?|pg||
mb|2C!|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|2H|nt|brolucius: Ace and another trump, on the last hand, might fail when East held @SK-x-x and could draw a third round of trumps. Declarer would not then be able to ruff the last club (he could ...|pg||
nt|brolucius: try the heart finesse instead). But the club situation was clear after the first round and I am sure that declarer's play was correct.|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|jtr: That is a falacy David|pg||
nt|jtr: if he has 3 trumps and a doubleton @c you cant make it|pg||
nt|brolucius: Three trumps with the long clubs.|pg||
nt|jtr: Ah Kxx@ss onside you mean?|pg||
mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|jtr: Yes true so maybe you should not play a @h before trumps|pg||
nt|brolucius: Yes, East (on the right of the diagram, as DB2 would say...)|pg||
pc|hT|nt|jtr: If East has the @sK the @hk is likely with West|pg||
nt|brolucius: Good point.|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg||
nt|jtr: Cullin did well to push|pg||
nt|jtr: Even 2@d might have failed though|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|d5|pg||
pc|d4|pc|dK|pc|d9|pc|d6|pg||
nt|brolucius: It looked very dangerous to me and he did find a singleton trump opposite. But, he gives the opponents a chance to go wrong. |pg||
nt|jtr: North hoped his partner was short in @hs|pg||
pc|c7|pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c9|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h6|pc|s9|pc|h2|pg||
nt|jtr: Needed @cK there|pg||
nt|pelu: need to take @CK first to dsefeat 2x|pg||
nt|jtr: From West|pg||
pc|h9|pc|h8|pc|c4|pc|h3|pg||
pc|h5|pc|cQ|pc|dJ|pc|h7|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|c23|st||md|1SK754HA86DA874CQ9,S98632HTDKJ3CK874,SAJHJ732DQT92C532,SQTHKQ954D65CAJT6|sv|b|nt|roswolf: agreed since he was in 3|pg||
nt|MolvaM: so that 4@s wont make|pg||
mb|1C|an| |mb|p|nt|woozle: Brown has an exciting hand but best defense can beat 4S|pg||
mb|1D|an| |nt|mcarroll: This will certainly see Major suit action|pg||
mb|p|nt|ntmon: 4@S now by NS|pg||
nt|jcomyn: will they get to 6|pg||
nt|roswolf: 4@H is normal here|pg||
nt|roswolf: another transfer|pg||
mb|1H|an| |nt|roswolf: anothr transfer|pg||
mb|p|nt|roswolf: might inhibit the nat @H overcall by east |pg||
mb|1N|nt|woozle: South's 2D looks competitively inadequate, not that it matters much here|pg||
nt|jcomyn: tempting|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|blum1956: Probably it is a @h raise|pg||
nt|roswolf: may be showing 3@H support - the transfer shows 4+ in hearts|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|roswolf: i would lead a club|pg||
nt|roswolf: the @SQ is looking for a brillancy prize|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s2|nt|woozle: No doubt, and a toothpick is a weapon but it's not really adequate for a duel|pg||
pc|sA|pg||
nt|jcomyn: but resisted|pg||
nt|roswolf: i am told 1@c-1@d-1@h=3@h unball,1nt=2/3@hball|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|ntmon: S would need @D8 instead of @D7|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d4|pc|dK|pg||
pc|s3|nt|athene: this is a funny auction then - how did Bocchi know his partner had five hearts>|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|athene: ?|pg||
pc|sT|nt|mcarroll: making now|pg||
nt|woozle: Brown had two options - lead the club early before the opponents know you have eight trumps, or run trumps and try to put on pressure|pg||
pc|s5|pg||
pc|dT|nt|ntmon: or @D lead|pg||
pc|d6|nt|athene: maybe he didn't|pg||
pc|d7|nt|blum1956: Maybe it were better to play the @cQ before trumps|pg||
pc|dJ|pg||
nt|mcarroll: True enough|pg||
pc|s8|nt|woozle: Count signals should sort out the club suit for the defense when North has the ace|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h5|nt|roswolf: 3nt shows 5 hearts i am told :)|pg||
pc|sK|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d3|nt|athene: yes i know 1@D shows hearts but only 4+ hearts|pg||
pc|d2|pc|h4|pg||
nt|jcomyn: surprised in a way they didnt try|pg||
pc|d8|pc|c7|pc|d9|pc|c6|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h9|pc|hA|pc|hT|pg||
nt|blum1956: It is difficult for defenders to make a mistake when they have some 7 free discards|pg||
nt|roswolf: concede|pg||
mc|6|pg||
qx|o24|st||md|2SQHKQ632DT3CJ8632,S6HJ9DAKQJ42CAT97,SA975432HA7D65C54,SKJT8HT854D987CKQ|sv|o|nt|brolucius: Declarer ditches the club loser (as Peter told us). |pg||
nt|jtr: This should be routine|pg||
mb|1D!|nt|brolucius: I gather that the great web-site does not give running scores during a Swiss round. Is that right?|pg||
nt|jtr: Unless North tries too many @ss|pg||
nt|Walddk2: 10-15  usually 5+ diamonds|pg||
nt|jtr: Hasnt updated yet|pg||
mb|3S|mb|p|nt|jtr: Uh oh|pg||
mb|p|nt|jtr: Now can West double though?|pg||
mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: Easily|pg||
nt|jtr: Indeed he can Welldone|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|c7|pc|c4|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Not a lot in it, 3 IMPs to Kamras likely|pg||
nt|jtr: 500|pg||
nt|Walddk2: For down 3|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c3|pc|c9|pc|c5|pg||
nt|brolucius: In the days before screens, you could often detect a king of twitch from the guy in 3rd seat when he held long spades and would welcome a re-opening double. It had a name but I do ...|pg||
nt|brolucius: want to invite a legal case from the player involved. |pg||
pc|sK|pc|sQ|pc|s6|nt|brolucius: ..kind of..|pg||
pc|sA|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|h9|pg||
pc|h7|pc|h5|pc|hQ|pc|hJ|pg||
pc|hK|pc|d2|pc|d5|pc|h8|pg||
nt|Walddk2: You *do* want?|pg||
nt|jtr: @c9 was clearly for @ds|pg||
pc|h3|pc|d4|nt|jtr: Did East miss a pip maybe?|pg||
pc|s2|pc|hT|pg||
nt|brolucius: Do not, you are right. Typed too quickly.|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s8|pc|d3|pc|cT|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Now 3 IMPs in the other direction|pg||
mc|7|nt|vugraphpl5: please wait, players don't have next board|pg||
nt|brolucius: How are the pairings for the KO arranged, Roland?|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Complicated|pg||
nt|brolucius: Not 1 v 32, then. They have choosing rights?|pg||
nt|Walddk2: But 1st picks first, then 2nd picks next, and so on|pg||
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qx|c24|st||md|2SQHKQ632DT3CJ8632,S6HJ9DAKQJ42CAT97,SA975432HA7D65C54,SKJT8HT854D987CKQ|sv|o|nt|hedyg: i am afraid when the CC was made last year they were not yet playing transfers over the 1@c opening, thus no explanations|pg||
nt|roswolf: what 3@H would mean is a mystery:)|pg||
nt|athene: ok so with a 3nt bid and only four hearts, south would have done something else|pg||
nt|athene: garozzo responds 2@C on strong balanced hands with a 4-card major|pg||
nt|athene: the idea is to conceal the major if you don't have a 4-4 fit|pg||
nt|athene: so if you respond showing a major then bid 3nt you promise 5|pg||
nt|roswolf: another kibber suggests they may use 3@S rebid by south as puppet to 3nt|pg||
nt|athene: looks as though NS are doing the same sort of thing|pg||
nt|MolvaM: nice hand.|pg||
mb|1D|mb|1S|nt|MolvaM: we would be happy if a few voids would be there but ok :)|pg||
nt|glen: on bd 22, Tokay, S in other room, started trumps with ace for +140 and 5 imps|pg||
mb|1N|nt|jcomyn: 3C|pg||
nt|ntmon: 2@S alerted but looks like sign-off|pg||
nt|roswolf: on 22 in 3@S DECLARER DID PLAY ACE AND ANOR TRUMP|pg||
nt|MolvaM: welldone tokay :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|roswolf: great minds eh glen!?:)|pg||
nt|glen: hey, canadians own "eh"|pg||
nt|roswolf: well 3nt seems routine by west|pg||
mb|2S|nt|jcomyn: boy what happens now|pg||
nt|ntmon: when opps bid 2 suits and we look for 3NT, we bid the suit we have stopped |pg||
nt|hedyg: 2@d= 4+|pg||
nt|roswolf: a difficult salm to reach 6@D seems clearly superior|pg||
nt|athene: NS can bid lots of hearts but that will only encourage east to bid a slam|pg||
nt|hedyg: ok here is the CC for NS now: http://www.svenskbridge.se/e107_files/tavling/deklarationer/AWJKeng.pdf|pg||
mb|p|nt|ntmon: but i agree .. NS on the way to problems|pg||
nt|roswolf: the heart lead against nt is marked lucky east has 10xxx|pg||
mb|2N|nt|woozle: At the other table, North switched to a diamond at trick two, but chose the lowest...South, duly misled, led one back|pg||
nt|athene: 6@S will make if the defence foolishly try to cash @HAK, but not if they switch to a club to take out the entry to the diamonds, of course|pg||
nt|glen: thanks Hedy, typical swedish cc, very little blank space left|pg||
mb|p|nt|MolvaM: heart lead and low spade switch?|pg||
nt|granguru:  and west @HJx|pg||
mb|3N|nt|jcomyn: like well into the soup|pg||
nt|jcomyn: I'm still bidding 3c on the s hand before you have your blood spilled|pg||
nt|MolvaM: oh then @sA disappears|pg||
mb|p|nt|ntmon: the only problem with 3@C is that should not be enough |pg||
nt|ntmon: at least they're on the same wavelenght|pg||
nt|roswolf: advance sac taken|pg||
mb|p|nt|hedyg: still 9 tricks|pg||
mb|p|nt|MolvaM: even if misguess|pg||
nt|hedyg: right|pg||
nt|hedyg: anything is fine as long as they avoid 5@ds|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|roswolf: yup i think duboin was taking the time to light the proverbial cigarette|pg||
pc|s6|nt|jcomyn: much of a muchness|pg||
nt|glen: i thought they played for lavazza and coffee|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s8|pg||
nt|blum1956: clear pass for North on 2@s from my point of view, but Pszczola is a world champion which I am not|pg||
nt|MolvaM: he could get 6 proverbial IMPs fine for that  :)|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|h9|pg||
pc|h7|pc|h5|nt|roswolf: seems to gain a few imps|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|mcarroll: they did well to stop below game, but even this is probably not going to make|pg||
pc|hJ|pg||
nt|hedyg: seems Madala decided they would take no @H tricks if EW played|pg||
nt|glen: and the cash out stops at 4 tricks|pg||
nt|hedyg: better cash the K@H now|pg||
pc|hK|pc|c7|nt|ntmon: reaching 4@H X would not be problem on tables, where W passes and E opens with @S preeemt|pg||
nt|roswolf: well that may mean an imp to the israelis|pg||
pc|s9|nt|hedyg: they took all their tricks|pg||
pc|h8|pg||
mc|9|nt|woozle: Fiona did well on lead with a trump...a heart (or club) lead would have cost a trick|pg||
pg||
qx|o25|st||md|3S76HT3DAQ9843CKT8,SAK93HQ874DJT7CQ2,SQJT52H652DK5CA96,S84HAKJ9D62CJ7543|sv|e|nt|pelu: no first 8 pick from 9-32|pg||
nt|pelu: the rest i ranged after EBL/WBF masterpoints - not result|pg||
nt|brolucius: That's a fair scheme, but a bit time-consuming. You have a chance to insult another team by choosing them. But they then have the chance to prove that you were wrong.|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|3D|nt|Walddk2: They summon all team captains after tonight. Specs welcome to attend|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|brolucius: Three-bid on a 6-card suit common in 3rd seat.|pg||
mb|p|nt|pelu: team-members - not playing - will count to the Matserpoints|pg||
pc|sA|nt|jtr: variable pre-empt in 3rd|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|s6|pg||
nt|brolucius: By position fairer than masterpoints, one would have thought. Since longevity is then rewarded.|pg||
nt|Walddk2: 27 qualify from Swiss A, and another 5 from Swiss B|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c6|pc|c3|nt|jtr: Good try in @cs|pg||
pc|cK|pg||
nt|brolucius: For a few teams at the top, the first few days have just been a practice session. The real battle will start tomorrow. Mind you, it is not so easy to qualify in the top 3 out of 8, ...|pg||
nt|brolucius: even in the Round Robin.|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d7|pc|dK|pc|d2|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Still no running scores from round 5 I'm afraid|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d6|pc|dQ|pc|dT|pg||
pc|dA|pc|dJ|pc|h2|pc|c4|pg||
mc|9|nt|pelu: now Roland|pg||
pg||
qx|c25|st||md|3S76HT3DAQ9843CKT8,SAK93HQ874DJT7CQ2,SQJT52H652DK5CA96,S84HAKJ9D62CJ7543|sv|e|nt|woozle: Maybe 4S here for EW, but there's work involved|pg||
nt|ntmon: the wrong result for Monacco atributed to their EW pair in OR|pg||
nt|athene: better lead a diamond against 6@H here|pg||
nt|granguru:  1Nt or 2@D NS|pg||
mb|1S|nt|roswolf: yes for once not a lot of scope for action|pg||
mb|p|nt|mcarroll: Lots of work|pg||
nt|mcarroll: lots of work needed|pg||
nt|ntmon: leader changes after each board |pg||
nt|athene: shouldn't be too hard though|pg||
nt|roswolf: another distributional fit|pg||
mb|1N|an| |mb|p|nt|woozle: only two certain losers, but I'm not sure how many winners|pg||
nt|roswolf: well the @D lead signposted|pg||
nt|athene: 3@D is GF raise with singleton|pg||
nt|roswolf: 3@D shows 1 singleton(unspecified) + gf i am told|pg||
nt|athene: some specs might be wondering why east didn't just double|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: there are two possible explanations|pg||
mb|p|nt|jcomyn: finding h here will be tricky|pg||
nt|jcomyn: and game on|pg||
nt|athene: firstly they might play x as t/o of hearts (unlikely)|pg||
nt|glen: the modern style: bid five card majors, count points later|pg||
nt|hedyg: 1NT= semi-forcing|pg||
pc|h4|nt|athene: secondly he just wants to emphasize he has real playing strength in diamonds so there might be a sac|pg||
nt|glen: the semi-forcing NT allows for opener, once having counted points, to pass to avoid trouble|pg||
nt|hedyg: the term semi-forcing will always be a puzzle to me|pg||
nt|roswolf: this seems easy +90|pg||
nt|hedyg: thus it is NOT forcing?|pg||
pc|h2|nt|athene: whereas a lead-directing double could be as little as @DKQ10x or so|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h3|pg||
nt|ntmon: much depends on methods now|pg||
nt|hedyg: notice no XX from Gino to show Kx in @D|pg||
nt|hedyg: i mean: it is either forcing or it isnt?|pg||
nt|granguru:  correct|pg||
nt|MolvaM: so 1NT conventionally asks for point count? :)|pg||
nt|hedyg: ok ty|pg||
nt|roswolf: well your supposed to bid again if you have a decent hand very like drury without the guaranteed trump support|pg||
nt|hedyg: , see above |pg||
nt|glen: semi-forcing is a terrible term, but was meant to distinguish between 1NT not-forcing limited to about 10 pts, and the modern style where it can have game invite values|pg||
pc|h9|nt|blum1956: not enough entries to make the @d s work and too bad @h distribution to crossruff effectively|pg||
nt|woozle: On the last board, Harding in the other room tried 3NT with the matching 4333s - down one also, but had chances for 10 in|pg||
nt|roswolf: brakes need to be applied now|pg||
pc|hT|nt|hedyg: it is a terrible term indeed|pg||
nt|roswolf: but rarely does in my experience|pg||
nt|granguru:  for me semif means "you may pass if you have a sub min hand  or a min with a bal distr"|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h5|pg||
nt|roswolf: OTT|pg||
nt|athene: i guess one other advantage for 4@D over double is it takes some room away from opps|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|d2|nt|mcarroll: which red suit to try is the question|pg||
pc|d3|pg||
nt|ntmon: very lucky for NS|pg||
pc|d5|nt|woozle: A bit sad here that the third diamond will be ruffed with the short defensive trumps|pg||
pc|d6|pc|dA|pc|d7|pg||
nt|athene: ok, it looks here as though madala has shown a diamond control|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|roswolf: i think n/s were reckless here although who was to blame we may never know|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|o26|st||md|4S72HK843DAT3CQJ63,S94HQT65D962CKT54,SJT65H7DKQ854C982,SAKQ83HAJ92DJ7CA7|sv|b|nt|pelu: on: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswrunda5.html|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Indeed|pg||
mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|4H|nt|brolucius: Bidding to 4@H should be a stroll in the park. Yes, it was.|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|brolucius: Club lead looks attractive but will be unlucky.|pg||
mb|p|pc|cQ|nt|brolucius: North's diamonds were not good enough to double the artificial 2@D.|pg||
nt|Walddk2: 1@D is 0-4  zz's, although it can contain a game-forcing hand as we saw earlier|pg||
nt|jtr: He may not risk South having the @cQJ though|pg||
nt|Walddk2: zz  A = 3  K = 2  Q = 1|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c2|pc|cA|pg||
nt|jtr: Ak and a @s i think|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|hT|pc|h7|pg||
nt|jtr: Not sure about that play|pg||
nt|vugraphpl5: running  scores http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswleaderb.html|pg||
pc|h5|pc|d5|nt|brolucius: Hearts likely to be 4-1 by Restricted Choice on 8/7.|pg||
nt|brolucius: If you think the 7 is North's lowest heart.|pg||
nt|jtr: Now @ds would be uncomfortable for declarer|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h4|pg||
pc|c7|pc|c3|pc|cT|pc|c8|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c9|pc|d7|pc|c6|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s7|pc|s9|pc|s6|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|jtr: He felt obliged to finesse the @c|pg||
nt|brolucius: Having seen the 4-1 trump break, which might cause problems, declarer does feel up to risking the club finesse.|pg||
nt|vugraphpl5: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswrunda5.html |pg||
pc|h8|pc|hQ|pc|sT|pg||
pc|c5|pc|d4|pc|hJ|pc|cJ|pg||
pc|s8|pc|d3|nt|jtr: If ducking a @h is troublesome when @hs are 4-1 i dont see the point|pg||
pc|h6|pc|sJ|pg||
pc|d2|mc|10|nt|brolucius: South perhaps unlikely to lead a doubleton queen of clubs when holding K-x-x-x in the trump suit. More likely to force declarer from length. |pg||
pg||
qx|c26|st||md|4S72HK843DAT3CQJ63,S94HQT65D962CKT54,SJT65H7DKQ854C982,SAKQ83HAJ92DJ7CA7|sv|b|nt|ntmon: anyway 2IMP for better game to Lavazza|pg||
nt|jcomyn: probably and then 3d forcing with at least 5-5|pg||
nt|hedyg: a Zia cuebid of 5@D|pg||
nt|athene: is bocchi teaching madala some interesting italian phrases at high speed now? if so, chances are, it was south's fault|pg||
nt|roswolf: another routine game hand|pg||
nt|glen: may see some italian science here|pg||
nt|granguru:  but it has some second meaning here. idont have a great hand and 3cards to raise you|pg||
mb|1S|nt|roswolf: didnt work - it is good to see that the top players are also mere mortals:)|pg||
mb|p|nt|MolvaM: maybe the 4-1 trumps could bring some action|pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|nt|roswolf: or obsfuscation more like|pg||
mb|2C|an| |nt|hedyg: we have been seeing a lot of that|pg||
mb|p|mb|2S|an| |nt|glen: 2@C is the science|pg||
mb|p|mb|3H|nt|athene: 2@C is a reverse inverted minor - it shows a raise to the two-level|pg||
nt|roswolf: 2@c rather than 1@d was an interesting choice|pg||
mb|p|nt|glen: natural or 16/17+ many hand types|pg||
mb|4H|nt|woozle: Pepsi bids only 2NT...he apparently has lower standards for vulnerable 2H bids than I do|pg||
nt|woozle: Seamon-Molson raises to say "yes, I did overcall vulnerable"|pg||
nt|mcarroll: and the @S Ten is a vital asset|pg||
nt|woozle: I suppose she would never have raised without it|pg||
mb|p|nt|mcarroll: :)|pg||
nt|jcomyn: now thats aggressive but i suppose the 5-card suit is useful|pg||
nt|jcomyn: H lead?|pg||
mb|p|nt|ntmon: actually E hand is rather strong in 15-17 range|pg||
nt|ntmon: roles home now|pg||
nt|jcomyn: rolls even|pg||
nt|ntmon: rolls* :)|pg||
nt|glen: 2@S was natural, usually 2@Ss, less than 8|pg||
nt|roswolf: for once i understand their bidding:)|pg||
mb|p|nt|glen: 3@H was the big hand, natural|pg||
nt|hedyg: 2@c either nat or any strong hand|pg||
nt|hedyg: according to the CC|pg||
pc|c6|nt|hedyg: then 3@H= strong hand with @s+@H|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c9|pc|c7|pg||
pc|hT|pc|h7|pc|h2|nt|jcomyn: h lkead d switch and another h but who would find that|pg||
nt|roswolf: ah a natural raise you mean bill:)|pg||
pc|h3|pg||
pc|h5|pc|d4|pc|hA|nt|athene: it's good to see people raising clubs|pg||
nt|athene: doesn't happen often :)|pg||
nt|roswolf: yes of course they play transfers over 1@C -doh:(|pg||
pc|h4|pg||
nt|jcomyn: and bocchi-Madala found that defence in open room|pg||
pc|cA|nt|woozle: Fiona decided that spades aren't promising on lead, so tries a surprise attack in clubs. Pepsi is surprised, but not so surprised that he will forget to take his now ten top tricks|pg||
pc|c3|nt|ntmon: well deserved|pg||
nt|jcomyn: led d first and then h|pg||
nt|jcomyn: very good but i wont lead a s whatever else|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c2|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|s5|pg||
nt|hedyg: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswleaderb.html|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|MolvaM: kamras thinking?|pg||
nt|hedyg: hardly|pg||
nt|VugraphPLA: i did mistake , he should not have 7 of spade now |pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|o27|st||md|1S532HKQ98DAKT74C5,SKQT6HAJ76DCQT863,SAJ94HT3DQ53CAKJ4,S87H542DJ9862C972|sv|o|mb|1D|mb|d|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|nt|brolucius: North cannot be bothered with defending such as 1@H at Love All. So, he does not start with a pointless redouble. Indeed.|pg||
mb|3S|mb|p|nt|jtr: Now they may have problems bidding 3NT|pg||
nt|brolucius: Yes 3NT better by South. Particularly as West may well hold four spades.|pg||
nt|jtr: You can probably struggle through in 5@d|pg||
mb|4D|mb|p|mb|4H|nt|brolucius: South must have been worried about the clubs. It was a rather awkward bidding problem.|pg||
mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|nt|jtr: Starting with redouble works better|pg||
nt|brolucius: I hope this auction has not gathered too much speed.|pg||
nt|Walddk2: EW were caught speeding next door, £1400 ticket|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Oh well, points then|pg||
mb|5D|nt|brolucius: E/W reached 2@C at the other table. When it was doubled, East 'corrected' (using the word loosely) to 2@D.|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sK|nt|brolucius: Strange hand, said Oscar the Owl, Lavazza played in 2@D at one table and 5@D at the other.|pg||
nt|pelu: but 2@CD prob down 800|pg||
nt|jtr: Confucius he say "Both sides want to play in same suit, one (very) wrong"|pg||
nt|brolucius: A fine player.|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Yes, he played Acol|pg||
nt|pelu: here we see N bid on as no X - the RD in CR worked fine|pg||
nt|Walddk2: The Shengzhen variation of Acol|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|s5|pg||
nt|Walddk2: EW in the other room did not play that system and were penalised|pg||
nt|pelu: on 2 IMP on stake here: -14 Making 5@D, down 1 = -16 - low gamebonus :)|pg||
nt|jtr: Needs to take the @c finesse then play @hs  Maybe needs the ruffing @h finesse too|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|h6|pg||
nt|brolucius: At the other table, West would not have run from 1NT as yet undoubled into 2@C unless he held five clubs, so it is hard to understand East's 2@D bid.|pg||
nt|jtr: That @d 7 may come into play too|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c6|pc|cJ|pc|c2|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|s3|pc|c3|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c9|pc|s2|pc|c8|pg||
nt|pelu: in CR they could even have played 1@Hx|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c4|nt|jtr: Now he cant make the @d4|pg||
pc|h4|pc|d4|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h7|pc|hT|pc|h2|pg||
pc|h9|pc|hJ|pc|dQ|pc|s8|pg||
pc|s4|pc|d8|pc|dT|pc|s6|pg||
nt|jtr: Well he made it but not the 7|pg||
pc|h8|pc|cT|pc|d5|pc|d6|pg||
pc|d9|pc|dK|pc|sT|pc|s9|pg||
pc|d7|pc|sQ|pc|sJ|pc|dJ|pg||
pg||
qx|c27|st||md|1S532HKQ98DAKT74C5,SKQT6HAJ76DCQT863,SAJ94HT3DQ53CAKJ4,S87H542DJ9862C972|sv|o|nt|woozle: Can make eleven tricks in spades EW by squeezing south in the red suits|pg||
nt|blum1956: If North opens a strong 1NT, what will West bid&|pg||
nt|blum1956: ?|pg||
nt|woozle: North much too strong for a strong notrump...although at favourable I might open 2NT|pg||
nt|woozle: A strong notrump is the second best preempt in bridge, after 2NT|pg||
nt|woozle: Is Pepsi deep in the tank, or is this a coffee break?|pg||
nt|blum1956: This time 1@c is the worst option for North - East may even preempt in @s s wich solves the problem for EW|pg||
nt|jcomyn: but nobody bid h - or s I suppose, so|pg||
nt|ntmon: Lavazza builds a sound, deserved lead|pg||
nt|MolvaM: better take the shortcut :)|pg||
nt|hedyg: ok np|pg||
mb|1D|nt|Walddk4: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswrunda5.html  running now|pg||
mb|d|nt|athene: 4@D would be a splinter we assume|pg||
nt|athene: but he might not want to do that with a singleton ace|pg||
nt|roswolf: south will brush the intervention aside|pg||
nt|roswolf: this might be carnage|pg||
mb|r|nt|athene: 3@D will be a spade raise anyway; presumably 3@C would be hearts|pg||
nt|hedyg: unusual vs unusual|pg||
mb|p|nt|hedyg: 3@d showing invite + in @s|pg||
nt|roswolf: south should pass|pg||
nt|MolvaM: sementa's pass says what?  I have diamonds? |pg||
mb|p|nt|jcomyn: and can add toit here|pg||
nt|hedyg: 3@c would be invite + in @h|pg||
nt|roswolf: he has sufficient defence|pg||
nt|MolvaM: or just that he has nothing to say|pg||
mb|1H|nt|woozle: Fiona, bids the routine (at this vul) 2S|pg||
nt|roswolf: to the limit for west|pg||
mb|p|nt|mcarroll: well predicted!|pg||
nt|roswolf: west must make his own arrangements|pg||
mb|p|nt|woozle: McGann takes the quick path to game|pg||
nt|roswolf: good judgment|pg||
nt|athene: does bocchi have to find the diamond lead for 500 here?|pg||
mb|d|nt|hedyg: maybe this is a hand t show invite + in @H and when d bids @H bid @s to show both majors|pg||
nt|roswolf: the noose tightens|pg||
nt|hedyg: surely he has no 4 cards in any other suit than @d|pg||
mb|r|nt|athene: hmmm ok this looks as though bocchi made a forcing pass and now a slam try in spades which is surely a bit optimistic with his hand|pg||
nt|roswolf: south tempted to bid on!?|pg||
nt|MolvaM: duboins hand looked so good after rho opened 1@d. now it looks not so attractive|pg||
nt|hedyg: oy vey!|pg||
nt|roswolf: high noon shoot out|pg||
nt|glen: sementa rips up cards and leaves table|pg||
nt|MolvaM: a void usually means action|pg||
nt|roswolf: blood will flow but whose is not clear|pg||
nt|hedyg: why XX?|pg||
nt|glen: actual it is xxxx since previous xx|pg||
nt|hedyg: surely if Sementa had a better suit he would have bid it?|pg||
mb|p|mb|1N|nt|roswolf: good judgment again|pg||
nt|hedyg: trying to put N under pressure?|pg||
mb|p|nt|roswolf: will n/s run out of red cards|pg||
mb|2C|nt|jcomyn: but very difficult|pg||
nt|ntmon: EW in OR might know that they're behind, so try to push|pg||
mb|d|nt|hedyg: passssssssssssssss|pg||
nt|hedyg: surely no need to correct to 2@H!|pg||
nt|roswolf: might give preference|pg||
mb|2D|nt|hedyg: cannot be a forcing pass opposite what might be just invite|pg||
nt|glen: i still think ripping up cards will result in lowest possible minus score|pg||
nt|MolvaM: well 8 card fit is better than nothing|pg||
nt|hedyg: oh no !|pg||
mb|d|mb|p|nt|MolvaM: ahh it goes on|pg||
nt|roswolf: frying pan into fire|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: well it can be if you agree it is|pg||
mb|p|nt|hedyg: what?|pg||
nt|MolvaM: 5 card fit now|pg||
nt|hedyg: are we watching the right board?|pg||
nt|glen: now there are fires, and there is this|pg||
nt|roswolf: this would be funny a5-0 fit|pg||
nt|hedyg: would be?|pg||
nt|roswolf: you shouldnt laugh at a funeral|pg||
nt|hedyg: ok folks! see? it can happen to anybody!|pg||
nt|MolvaM: if duboin had not rdbl'd it would have benn just ok|pg||
nt|hedyg: next time i play in my cuebid i must try to remember this moment|pg||
nt|roswolf: the italian will be x -rated in the post mortem|pg||
nt|MolvaM: looks like hand from the menagerie where both sides can play 2@dX|pg||
pc|hK|nt|roswolf: low trump to start|pg||
nt|granguru:  diagnostic?|pg||
nt|glen: the best thing for NS to do after the hand is leave table, then come back when decibel level is below 120|pg||
nt|hedyg: call an ambulance|pg||
nt|granguru:  --4?|pg||
nt|roswolf: gib says -7 dd|pg||
nt|granguru:  ducking is best here|pg||
nt|hedyg: desperately looking for an entry to his hand|pg||
nt|roswolf: well if slam is on for n/s i still tale the penalty 1700|pg||
pc|h6|nt|Walddk5: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswrunda3.html|pg||
nt|roswolf: take|pg||
pc|h3|nt|hedyg: it is only when Madala doubles that he is better than invite|pg||
pc|h5|pg||
pc|c5|nt|hedyg: if the 3@D bid had been gf, then it would have been a forcing pass|pg||
nt|athene: it's reasonable enough to play pass forcing if you showed at least game invite values and opps go to 5-level; 99% of the time they are advance saccing|pg||
pc|c3|nt|hedyg: too bad it isnt on?|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c2|pg||
pc|hT|pc|h2|nt|roswolf: the vampires gather for their feast|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg||
pc|sK|nt|glen: (promo for HBO true blood new season)|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s7|nt|woozle: Squeeze is broken up if North wins the second spade and leads a red suit - can't get off dummy without losing a menace|pg||
pc|s2|pg||
nt|roswolf: lol|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|s3|pc|c6|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c9|pc|s5|pc|c8|pg||
pc|s9|pc|s8|nt|hedyg: in OR for some reason N bid 1@s over the X instead of XX|pg||
pc|d4|pc|s6|pg||
pc|h9|pc|hJ|pc|d3|pc|h4|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|ntmon: 4@S would have need a miracle in @C suit, but will be bid elsewhere|pg||
nt|hedyg: and that kept W out of the bidding|pg||
pc|d9|pc|dT|pc|sT|pg||
pc|h8|pc|h7|pc|dQ|nt|glen: hampson in other match transferred over 1@S|pg||
pc|d2|pg||
mc|2|nt|glen: transferred over the double|pg||
nt|glen: to spades|pg||
nt|roswolf: defence dropped a trick ONLY14000 ;;;;;;;;;;;;;9|pg||
nt|roswolf: :(|pg||
nt|hedyg: in "ZE" other match Glen?|pg||
pg||
qx|o28|st||md|2SA982HJ3DJT53C743,SQJT53HTDAQ62CQ52,SK4HAKQ62DK874CK6,S76H98754D9CAJT98|sv|n|nt|brolucius: Declarer will not realise that going down has cost only 2 IMPs. (It usually costs me more, but I do not play at this level.)|pg||
nt|Walddk2: 5-level?|pg||
nt|jtr: The 5-level a bit too much for you?:)|pg||
nt|brolucius: Excellent!|pg||
mb|1S|mb|d|nt|pfbr: hi Roland@h |pg||
mb|2C|nt|Walddk2: Hi dear @H|pg||
mb|p|mb|3C|nt|jtr: N/S being pushed around here|pg||
mb|3H|mb|p|nt|brolucius: North barely worth 3@H, maybe another double.|pg||
mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s7|nt|brolucius: The enterprising club bidding by E/W has brought a reward.|pg||
nt|jtr: I like 2@c-a lot|pg||
nt|Walddk2: No respect, they keep doubling them|pg||
nt|brolucius: Sementa did not like to bid 2@C after his previous experience in 2@D doubled.|pg||
nt|Walddk2: and now they will collect another 500|pg||
nt|Walddk2: That's worth 9 IMPs|pg||
nt|jtr: Sweden have capitalised on the errors|pg||
nt|Walddk2: 12 IMPs, apologies|pg||
nt|brolucius: Most players would not be able to bid 2@C on those values. You can, David? What does such a bid show for you?|pg||
nt|jtr: Natural and non forcing|pg||
nt|jtr: All good hands have to start with a redouble|pg||
nt|brolucius: Not at all invitational, then? Many players use a new suit bid as forcing. In the US, such bids tend to be forcing at the one-level and NF at the two-level.|pg||
nt|jtr: Not invitational because no xx Could be up to 10 though maybe|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Depends on agreement. Some just ignore the double and bid as if there that been a pass|pg||
nt|jtr: I just like to bid a suit when i have a decent one:)|pg||
nt|brolucius: Yes, most in UK do that. (As Roland mentioned.)|pg||
nt|jtr: The method i like is pass is either weak or game forcing|pg||
nt|jtr: Havent seen that for a while and forget where i saw it|pg||
nt|Walddk2: That's how Peter plays it|pg||
nt|jtr: Ah|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Redouble 9-11, pass 0-8 or 12+|pg||
pc|s8|pc|s3|pc|sK|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|hJ|pc|hT|pg||
pc|h3|nt|pelu: u remember, Roland :)|pg||
nt|jtr: Meanwhile this is getting worse for declarer|pg||
nt|Walddk2: How dare I forget?|pg||
pc|s5|pc|hA|pc|h5|pg||
nt|pelu: :)|pg||
nt|brolucius: 4@H is not the world's most appalling contract and did have some play. Only the bad trump break has made it look much too high.|pg||
nt|jtr: Should have played @ds earlier|pg||
nt|jtr: That @h10 looked suspicious|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Again, there is a rebate for the extra downtrick, only 14 instead of 12|pg||
nt|pelu: and the X confirm :)|pg||
nt|jtr: Lavazza are really cleaning up then in a sense?:)|pg||
nt|pelu: still 2 boards to go :)|pg||
nt|brolucius: Any commentators who happen to come from Scandinavia will be well chuffed by this score-line. (Unless, just possibly, there is some rivalry between the different countries...)|pg||
nt|jtr: I am sure there is|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Indeed, but then there is the advantage of being Danish/Swedish like me|pg||
nt|brolucius: I have that people say 'I don't care where we come, so long as it is ahead of Denmark.'|pg||
nt|jtr: The 'green sickness' seems more prevalent between neighbouring countries|pg||
nt|brolucius: Declarer has successfully avoided going down so far.|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Danes render quite a service with regard to Swedes. There is a sign by the harbour. It reads: "Keep Denmark clean, see a Swede to the ferry"|pg||
nt|pelu: sorry have to go|pg||
nt|jtr: lolol|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h7|pc|c3|pc|d2|pg||
nt|jtr: You have upset Peter|pg||
nt|jtr: Or maybe he had to catch a ferry?|pg||
nt|brolucius: Hah!|pg||
nt|Walddk2: 8 million Swedes rather|pg||
nt|jtr: Big ferry|pg||
nt|Walddk2: 9.4 million I hear, ok give/take|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s6|pc|sA|nt|brolucius: Unfortunately for Baldurrson, no major flood has occurred in the playing area and the TD is on his way to the table, to see how many boards they still have left.|pg||
pc|sT|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d9|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c4|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c7|pc|c5|pc|c6|pg||
pc|cT|pc|s2|pc|cQ|pc|h6|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h8|pc|d3|pc|d6|pg||
mc|7|pg||
qx|c28|st||md|2SA982HJ3DJT53C743,SQJT53HTDAQ62CQ52,SK4HAKQ62DK874CK6,S76H98754D9CAJT98|sv|n|nt|woozle: OK, no squeeze if you don't play off your trumps...it's like half-strangling somebody|pg||
mb|1S|nt|jcomyn: yes normal contract |pg||
nt|athene: but we just don't know the NS agreements here (or i don't anyway) :)|pg||
mb|d|nt|roswolf: lots of hcp but not much chance of a slam|pg||
nt|athene: i don't understand the last hand|pg||
nt|athene: if west just holds up his @SA isn't he beating 5@S?|pg||
nt|hedyg: he is, needs to hold up twice|pg||
nt|athene: he ducks twice - now if bocchi plays another trump he takes the ace and plays a fourth and the club ruff goes|pg||
nt|VugraphPLA: TD was called , Ginossar think 5s was -1 |pg||
nt|athene: if bocchi ruffs a club himself, then west can simply force the south hand in clubs|pg||
nt|hedyg: Tadeusz, did Gino duck the A@S?|pg||
nt|athene: maybe bocchi claimed 11 or something and west agreed without really thinking it through|pg||
nt|athene: seems unlikely though|pg||
nt|roswolf: indeed|pg||
nt|roswolf: but fatigue does play its part|pg||
nt|hedyg: not that unlikely, only 4-0 @ss could beat him|pg||
nt|hedyg: so he might well have played a @s from hand and claimed|pg||
nt|VugraphPLA: Well i haven't seen , Bocchi has just claimed|pg||
nt|hedyg: ok so we will wait, once declarer claims all play stops and you call the TD if you dont agree|pg||
nt|VugraphPLA: We are waiting for decision |pg||
nt|roswolf: one fir the bulletin i think as do a few others!:)|pg||
mb|p|nt|jcomyn: might try 3nt here a behind bid|pg||
mb|2D|mb|p|nt|MolvaM: living thru this at the table is bad, but worse will come during scoring when you say minus 1400 |pg||
mb|2H|mb|p|nt|woozle: McGann has been there before - the big preempt putting pressure on NS in exchange for losing an occasional miracle slam|pg||
nt|glen: 2NT now?|pg||
nt|roswolf: n/s on the previous bd are playing in 5@D|pg||
nt|roswolf: IN THE OTHER ROOM|pg||
mb|p|nt|jcomyn: lots of controls in n hand why not 2nt|pg||
mb|p|pc|s7|nt|woozle: Pepsi chooses to go quietly with his 17-count, fearing that a double will be pulled too often|pg||
nt|roswolf: nice judgment here|pg||
nt|MolvaM: well it must be makable since NS took 11 tricks here|pg||
pc|s2|nt|roswolf: e/w will need a lot of the captain's coffee at the end of this match she wont be very sympathetic|pg||
pc|s5|nt|hedyg: "please continue to play, i will give you my decision"|pg||
pc|sK|pg||
pc|h2|nt|woozle: If the match were closer, he probably would have acted|pg||
nt|blum1956: This is a partscore board besides McGann has another opinion))|pg||
nt|ntmon: NS play negative frre bids (NFB) after intervention, so S has extras and N accepts|pg||
nt|jcomyn: agree but prefer playing from n|pg||
pc|h4|pc|hJ|pc|hT|pg||
pc|h3|nt|granguru:  Duboin should have passed 1@H doubled but I give sementa the greatest part of guilt.for not passing 2@C.|pg||
pc|s3|pc|hA|pc|h5|pg||
nt|jcomyn: h lead from w would n ot be nice|pg||
nt|hedyg: a lot of messages from specs about the last board|pg||
nt|roswolf: i agree with that 1@HX probably not too bad|pg||
nt|granguru:  although 2@C is probably -4 |pg||
nt|glen: would make a fun "you be the judge" in the "the bridge world"|pg||
pc|d8|pc|d9|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pg||
nt|ntmon: sure, @H better for defence but again .. not easy|pg||
nt|hedyg: it is quite clear: if the A@S is ducked twice he cannot make 5@ss|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|granguru:  it will surely appear in some more years|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s6|pc|sA|pg||
nt|jcomyn: d and small c and pray|pg||
nt|ntmon: actually case is good after lead from @SA|pg||
nt|jcomyn: going to the wire|pg||
nt|granguru:  I will send the hand ..@H|pg||
nt|roswolf: yes but might be censored as not beinf suitable for a family audience|pg||
nt|granguru:  :)|pg||
nt|glen: nowadays, likely up on bridgewinners and/or bridgetopics in 1 day|pg||
pc|d3|nt|jcomyn: cant be thinking anything but a s|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|cJ|pg||
nt|jcomyn: home now i think|pg||
nt|roswolf: i bet the score stands though - if the claim was accepted even though in error - thats it unless it was impossible to win the number of tricks claimed|pg||
nt|roswolf: which it clearly wasnt|pg||
nt|athene: i'm not so sure - declarer is meant to give a line of play|pg||
nt|granguru:  :$|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c3|pg||
pc|c8|pc|c4|pc|cQ|pc|c6|pg||
nt|MolvaM: 5@d went down|pg||
nt|glen: on some layouts where opener has both minor aces and the @Hs split 4-2 or 3-3, 3NT will have play on this board|pg||
nt|MolvaM: so 16 imps to kamras|pg||
nt|roswolf: but to be fair this is a very RARE mistake by these guys and they have plenty of imps in the bank from similar errors from past opps|pg||
nt|granguru:  REDOULBLE  on 1@Hx meant 3-suiter short in @D. So Sementa forgot or misunderstood..|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|o29|st||md|3SQJ87643HD93CQT43,ST2HA984DT4CA9765,S95HKQJT753DAJ7CJ,SAKH62DKQ8652CK82|sv|b|nt|brolucius: A reward for the E/W enterprise. It was only mild overbidding by N/S and unlucky to go for so much.|pg||
mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: 4@S next door is not a call I would recommend. You've got to respect partner's 4@H|pg||
nt|jtr: Sweden's turn to get caught next door|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|s5|pg||
nt|Walddk2: And not a great advertisement for negative free bids, David G|pg||
nt|Walddk2: The 2@S next door|pg||
nt|jtr: Well, 3@h would seem enough|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|sT|pc|s9|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|d7|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d9|pc|dT|pc|dJ|pg||
pc|hK|nt|brolucius: You hear people say 'I didn't think 4@H doubled was a great spot, so I had nothing to lose by trying 4@S.'   But as Roland says, this is not winning bridge very often.|pg||
pc|h2|pc|s6|pc|hA|pg||
nt|jtr: Quite a double of 4@h|pg||
nt|vugraphpl5: running score round 5 http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswrunda5.html|pg||
pc|c6|pc|cJ|pc|cK|pc|c3|pg||
pc|d5|pc|s7|pc|h8|pc|dA|pg||
pc|cA|pc|h3|pc|c2|pc|c4|pg||
mc|7|pg||
qx|c29|st||md|3SQJ87643HD93CQT43,ST2HA984DT4CA9765,S95HKQJT753DAJ7CJ,SAKH62DKQ8652CK82|sv|b|nt|woozle: nobody was going to mess up that defense|pg||
nt|woozle: I'm not seeing the string of double-digit swings that Harding need to get back into the match|pg||
nt|ntmon: good effort by Monaco on  8|pg||
mb|1H|nt|jcomyn: yes|pg||
nt|jcomyn: 3nt|pg||
nt|hedyg: we have 1@HX at -2 and -3 and 2@c X is -3|pg||
mb|2D|nt|glen: thus it was a close call to pass 2@H, but that got +110|pg||
nt|hedyg: John surely 1@D X already meant that?|pg||
mb|2S|an| |nt|jcomyn: solid 2nt for m,e|pg||
mb|d|an| |nt|ntmon: some will preemt with N hand|pg||
nt|athene: interesting - no Ghestem for this NS pair|pg||
nt|athene: but most italian pairs do play some sort of ghestem|pg||
nt|hedyg: with the E hand you bid X and pray pd doesnt bid 3@s|pg||
nt|granguru:  well most of the time..could have been  a GOSH or a 2-suited hand also|pg||
mb|4H|nt|woozle: Now a notrump partscore, probably with an overtrick or two|pg||
nt|roswolf: now 4@H more normal although may double|pg||
mb|d|nt|mcarroll: Probably best described as a Joey Silver hand|pg||
nt|MolvaM: another "void hand"|pg||
nt|MolvaM: 2@s was probably nonforcing|pg||
nt|hedyg: 2@s obviously nf|pg||
mb|4S|nt|hedyg: sry Murat|pg||
mb|d|nt|MolvaM: :)|pg||
nt|hedyg: Kamras really doesnt want to play in @H|pg||
mb|p|nt|blum1956: the @h position is of that special sort so nothing may disturb this contract|pg||
nt|athene: 4@S possible with such a good suit|pg||
nt|MolvaM: action again|pg||
mb|p|nt|roswolf: and chosen|pg||
nt|hedyg: they do play Ghestem on their CC|pg||
nt|athene: sometimes partner has good diamonds and weak hearts and you can make 4@S but not 4@H|pg||
nt|hedyg: just maybe not with @cs|pg||
nt|athene: throwing hearts on diamonds|pg||
mb|p|nt|jcomyn: what now - dicey|pg||
nt|roswolf: hmm this wont go for 1400 but in context a similar result|pg||
nt|granguru:  well -16 is not the worst we have seen|pg||
nt|hedyg: any reason his pd could not have 7 good @hs and void in @s?|pg||
pc|dT|nt|roswolf: no hedy|pg||
nt|hedyg: he does have the good 7 card suit part|pg||
nt|MolvaM: 4h was a bit exaggerated for my taste|pg||
nt|MolvaM: 3@h would be ok|pg||
nt|roswolf: this seems to be -3|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d8|pc|d3|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|cK|pc|c3|nt|ntmon: @S lead in OR, no  problem then|pg||
pc|c5|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s2|nt|roswolf: this will drift down|pg||
nt|hedyg: OR in 4@H|pg||
nt|roswolf: 800 is not a scratch|pg||
pc|s5|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|sT|pc|s9|pg||
nt|jcomyn: what with a good 6-carder|pg||
nt|MolvaM: this could recover some of the imps lost in the disaster|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pc|h3|pg||
nt|roswolf: dummy is truly LE MORT|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d7|nt|jcomyn: and suddenly things change drastically|pg||
nt|hedyg: Gino must have thought his @ss were good enough to play even opposite shortness|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d9|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|granguru:  yesterday we saw  Fantoni-Nunes giving away a vul game when they had a slam of their own -17|pg||
pc|s6|nt|granguru:  a consolation for normal mortals we are|pg||
pc|c6|pc|dJ|pg||
nt|hedyg: now all @ss|pg||
mc|7|pg||
qx|o30|st||md|4SKQ973H32DQJ762C8,S85HAQ65DA4CT6542,SAJTHKJ974DKTCKJ9,S642HT8D9853CAQ73|sv|o|nt|Walddk2: Last board of the match now|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Many thanks to Joanna, our splendid operator in Poznan. Excellent job as usual!|pg||
nt|vugraphpl5: This is last board|pg||
mb|p|nt|Walddk2: and thanks to my fellow commentators, David, David and Peter|pg||
mb|2S|mb|p|nt|brolucius: Yes, I have rarely seen such uniform excellence in a tournament's VG operators. Many thanks!|pg||
nt|vugraphpl5: Next round will start at 16,15|pg||
mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: Approximately|pg||
mb|p|nt|jtr: Thanks you Roland|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Could well be 5-10 minutes later|pg||
nt|jtr: Thank rather|pg||
nt|brolucius: And they keep up the standard all day. After commentating for just one session, I need to sit down with a cup of tea. Not that I am asking for any sympathy...|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|h8|pc|h2|pg||
pc|c2|nt|jtr: This is the sort of @h guess i am good at|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|c8|pg||
pc|cA|pc|s3|pc|c4|pc|c9|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|dK|pc|d3|pg||
pc|dT|pc|d5|pc|d6|pc|dA|pg||
pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|hT|pc|h3|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s7|pc|s5|pg||
mc|10|nt|brolucius: Lavazza and Kamras 4th and 3rd after these exchanges.|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Bye for now|pg||
nt|brolucius: Thanks for watching!|pg||
nt|jtr: That's all folks  Thanks for watching|pg||
pg||
qx|c30|st||md|4SKQ973H32DQJ762C8,S85HAQ65DA4CT6542,SAJTHKJ974DKTCKJ9,S642HT8D9853CAQ73|sv|o|nt|ntmon: surprises me how often 3NT is made through the field|pg||
nt|jcomyn: isnt that amazing|pg||
nt|hedyg: last board of this match now|pg||
nt|roswolf: tried to drop a singleton trump king|pg||
nt|hedyg: thanks to our outstanding operator in Poznan, Tadeusz ! to my excellent fellow commentators Geoffrey and Bill for donating their time and expertise to guide us through these ...|pg||
nt|hedyg: boards.our appreciation to the EBL and the PBF for bringing this event to BBO, especially Slawek Latala  who was intrumental in organizing these broadcasts on behalf of BBO|pg||
nt|hedyg: special thanks to our specs for joining and for your kind and helpful comments,we hope you enjoyed the show|pg||
nt|glen: there must be a leaderboard for this italian unusual results|pg||
nt|roswolf: We are now on the last board of the set. Thanks to our operator, Joanna -Great Job! Our appreciation to all the organisers for ensuring that this fine event is brought to BBO ...|pg||
nt|roswolf: vugraph. Thanks too to my very learned fellow commentators Hedy, Murat and Glen for their company and perceptive comments and to our specs whose contributions keep us on our toes.|pg||
nt|glen: *these|pg||
nt|hedyg: and thank you Geoffrey :)|pg||
nt|roswolf: an entertaining match|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|hedyg: we will be back at 14 30 CET, in 1 hour and 38 minutes|pg||
nt|roswolf: sorry thx to John as well|pg||
nt|granguru:  fortunatelly IMPs table doesnt punish you very hard after you already gave away a lot of IMPs in one hand|pg||
mb|p|nt|jcomyn: 20 impps in last 2 boards|pg||
nt|roswolf: scheduled restart in 1hr 35 mins approx|pg||
mb|1N|nt|glen: some styles like a 3rd seat 1@H here|pg||
mb|p|nt|ntmon: new leader - i didn't tell that during last few boards|pg||
nt|hedyg: not when KJ are behind :p|pg||
mb|2H|nt|mcarroll: yet another Major partscore hand|pg||
mb|p|mb|2S|nt|hedyg: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswleaderb.html|pg||
nt|athene: west might try an aggressive 3@S now, thinking his @DKJx mesh nicely with his partner's diamond suit|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: in fact, of course, they mesh nicely with *north's* diamond suit|pg||
nt|athene: ok, 2@C then 2@S i guess|pg||
nt|roswolf: the pitiful crutch of 4SF |pg||
nt|athene: show an invitational hand but stop at the 2 level|pg||
nt|MolvaM: and not 5 minutes after conceding 1400|pg||
nt|hedyg: we will be back in 37 minutes|pg||
mb|3D|nt|roswolf: n/s will press on to game|pg||
mb|p|mb|4S|nt|woozle: 4S is cold|pg||
nt|blum1956: 4@s could be made|pg||
nt|woozle: with CA onside, diamond position, spade position and no diamond ruff coming|pg||
nt|ntmon: 2@C may not be wise - who has the @S suit? probably partner, and is weak ...|pg||
nt|jcomyn: big finish for someone|pg||
nt|jcomyn: and it isnt lavazza|pg||
nt|ntmon: .. but this is not the case|pg||
mb|p|nt|mcarroll: Yes but has to get @Ds right|pg||
nt|hedyg: can not be more than invite by passed hand|pg||
mb|p|nt|jcomyn: frying pan into the toaster|pg||
nt|athene: nope, he tries 3 anyway|pg||
mb|p|nt|roswolf: east will accept!?|pg||
pc|s2|nt|woozle: McGann tries 4H, down one or two on a spade guess with the club hook failing|pg||
nt|hedyg: but 2@s should be enough|pg||
nt|hedyg: everything is friendly|pg||
nt|granguru:  Italoswiss is a kib with very good memory|pg||
nt|hedyg: ty all, bye for now!|pg||
pc|s3|nt|woozle: down one...Fiona surely won't try the SK now|pg||
nt|blum1956: -50 against -140 or -170 is a useful 3 imps|pg||
pc|s8|nt|ntmon: X should secure @C lead against 3NT|pg||
nt|hedyg: 1 card out of 3 is on side|pg||
pc|sA|pg||
nt|jcomyn: craziest contract of the week|pg||
nt|roswolf: north needs to avoid being endplayed here|pg||
nt|hedyg: i dont think he can get endplayed|pg||
nt|athene: endplay is unlikely because after ruffing a club and drawing trumps, west has no trumps left so a fourth club is fine|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s4|pc|s7|pc|s5|pg||
nt|hedyg: even A@H and @H is fine|pg||
pc|dK|nt|woozle: I fear at this point that 3 isn't enough|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d2|nt|ntmon: prediction? abstain..|pg||
nt|roswolf: indeed as it happens but still care needs to be taken|pg||
pc|d4|pg||
nt|jcomyn: hope no children are watching|pg||
nt|granguru:  some time ago I said whenever one player of each team tries to play the same suit, one of them is out of his mind. I was referring myself to the play of the cards thou|pg||
pc|dT|pc|d5|pc|d6|pc|dA|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|h8|pc|h2|pg||
pc|c6|pc|cK|pc|cA|nt|woozle: South could try for down two by ducking the first club|pg||
nt|athene: maybe @S6-@S4 is a subtle signal asking for a diamond|pg||
nt|athene: but bocchi can see it doesn't really matter i think|pg||
pc|c8|pg||
pc|d8|pc|dQ|pc|c2|nt|blum1956: Yes they need average 10.6 a bord to even the match|pg||
nt|athene: diamonds can't be going away|pg||
mc|10|nt|roswolf: bye for now|pg||
nt|granguru:  bye all|pg||
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