vg|D EC 2011 Open Teams Swiss _,4_7,I,11,20,Zaleski,0,Allfrey,0|
rs|4SW+2,4SW+3,4HS-1,5CN=,4HN=,4HS=,5SE+1,4SE+2,4HS+1,5HS=,2DEx-1,1SN+2,5SN-1,5SN-1,3NN+1,3NS+1,4HE-2,4HW=,4SW-1,4SE-1|
pn|D AVOSSA,ROBSON,INTONTI,ALLFREY,Gold,Versace,Forrester,Lauria|pg||
qx|o11|st||md|1ST32HAJ53DT76CT95,SJ874HQ8DKCAKJ873,SQH9762DAQJ953CQ2,SAK965HKT4D842C64|sv|o|nt|yo_yo: hello everyone|pg||
mb|p|mb|1C!|nt|stc: Two strong teams with unexpected bad positions in the swiss|pg||
mb|1D|nt|rcerreto: Intonti-D'Avossa play two differeny systems when vuln. and when not|pg||
mb|1H|an|!s|mb|2D|nt|stc: They badly need a larger win, so we can expect a real fight|pg||
mb|2S|nt|rcerreto: not vuln.  big club, 1@h/@s as weak as 8 HCP, 1NT 9-11|pg||
mb|3D|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|yo_yo: Andrew Robson, one of UK's superstars  as west|pg||
nt|rcerreto: natural (well, sort of :) ) when vuln.|pg||
nt|yo_yo: transfer response after intervention, interesting|pg||
pc|h7|nt|stc: a flat board to start with|pg||
nt|rcerreto: with @s and @c behaving, this should be easy|pg||
pc|h4|nt|stc: they must cash the 2 Aces NOW !|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pg||
nt|stc: IN CR they didn't|pg||
nt|rcerreto: they didn't|pg||
nt|rcerreto: here as well|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg||
nt|rcerreto: S had a chance, 7@h lead denied a honour|pg||
nt|stc: As far as I now Robson is a quite slow player|pg||
nt|rcerreto: Intonti as well, it will then be a looong match :)|pg||
nt|yo_yo: very slow, very thoughtful|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s3|pc|s7|pc|d3|pg||
nt|yo_yo: quick claim in a minute though i expect|pg||
nt|stc: So we can expect to see the results from CR on each board|pg||
pc|s5|pc|sT|pc|sJ|pc|d5|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|c5|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cQ|pc|c6|pc|c9|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|d9|pc|d2|pc|cT|pg||
pc|c8|pc|h2|pc|d8|pc|h3|pg||
mc|12|nt|stc: but 13 tricks look strange ?|pg||
nt|rcerreto: a little bit too much|pg||
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qx|c11|st||md|1ST32HAJ53DT76CT95,SJ874HQ8DKCAKJ873,SQH9762DAQJ953CQ2,SAK965HKT4D842C64|sv|o|nt|bagman: Hi all|pg||
nt|jfaria:  hi all|pg||
mb|p|mb|1C|nt|Gerben42:  welcome back in Poznan|pg||
nt|davpro: Morning all|pg||
nt|Walddk4: yes   h   missing|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Please operator|pg||
nt|roswolf: a difficult grand to bid|pg||
nt|MolvaM: it seems bochi plays in both rooms :)|pg||
nt|danilo1: Ola Joao, Hi all|pg||
mb|2D!|nt|roswolf: hi all|pg||
nt|roswolf: hi all|pg||
mb|d|nt|hawe45:  A splinter in North would do fine - in later defense|pg||
nt|jfaria:  ola Danilo|pg||
mb|3D|nt|jbgood: hi|pg||
nt|davpro: Thx operator. It looked like an forcing pass-opening :)|pg||
mb|3S|mb|p|nt|davpro: Who is Brogeland playing with?|pg||
nt|roswolf: ty operator|pg||
mb|4S|mb|p|nt|davpro: Ah- there the name came|pg||
mb|p|nt|hawe45:  You have seen too manu bad overcalls, when you sell out with the North hand|pg||
nt|roswolf: missing the @DQ they have to diagnose they have extra trump length to compensate|pg||
mb|p|pc|h7|nt|jfaria:  routine 4@s 4 those 2|pg||
pc|h4|nt|Gerben42:  south hand is known as Bridge World Death Hand (BWDH)|pg||
nt|Gerben42:  invitational values with 3-card support for partner|pg||
nt|bagman: South has a nice hand with spade values and N has an easy raise to game with 2 aces|pg||
nt|hawe45:  East has built a trap - will remove to 5 @H, only losing 100 I think|pg||
nt|hawe45:  Is there a reward for "slowest bid hand of the tournament" - without special reason...|pg||
nt|bridge_one: Hello all|pg||
nt|runnerup: hi all|pg||
nt|hawe45:  Hello|pg||
nt|jfaria:  Zaleski needs some results tocach up the playoffs |pg||
pc|hJ|nt|Gerben42:  with Qxxxx x Axxx xxx North would pass and 4@S would be cold|pg||
nt|roswolf: 1nt played the other way round - no spade lead|pg||
pc|hQ|pg||
nt|danilo1: 4@S will make (prob. +1) .. .in ev. 5@D, declarer needs to guess @H (must play 9 from hand) for -2 |pg||
pc|s7|nt|Gerben42:  but there is normally no perfect answer|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|roswolf: 10 tricks are on ice here|pg||
nt|roswolf: players names will be up in a mo|pg||
nt|jbgood: going through the motions|pg||
nt|roswolf: 3 controls and west will ask for the queen|pg||
nt|roswolf: in the other room|pg||
pc|sA|nt|runnerup: looks dangerous -all tricks possible|pg||
nt|davpro: W probably showed 4@s and E might have shown 4@h. I don't know their system :(|pg||
pc|s2|pg||
nt|roswolf: didnt bother played his pard for 3+ diamonds or the queen|pg||
nt|roswolf: 3@D may yhave promised 3+diamonds|pg||
pc|sK|nt|MolvaM: who can hold Qxx diamonds? thats the question|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s4|pc|d3|pg||
nt|roswolf: only problem is the potential 3-0 trump break|pg||
nt|roswolf: doesnt matter here:)|pg||
nt|MolvaM: does the lead tell any story|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c5|nt|jbgood: puppet i think - then 3@d shows 1 or 2 4 card majors, and deny 5|pg||
pc|cA|nt|hawe45:  13 tricks - over|pg||
pc|c2|pg||
nt|hawe45:  or 12|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|bagman: One of the answers is to use an artificial tool to separate hands with 3 card spades and those with 0-2|pg||
nt|bridge_one: and 6 is down with @H lead|pg||
nt|davpro: y- that was my guess too|pg||
pc|d5|nt|jbgood: then responder bids the suit he doesnt have |pg||
pc|s5|pc|sT|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cQ|pc|c6|nt|athene: hi good morning everyone|pg||
mc|13|nt|danilo1: both teams ... actually, this is the last table in grop A|pg||
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qx|o12|st||md|2SJ92HJT92DKT7CQT5,SAKT73HKQ85DJ94C2,S8HA74DAQ2CAK9843,SQ654H63D8653CJ76|sv|n|mb|1S|mb|d|mb|3S|nt|rcerreto: a good 5@c, not easy to reach|pg||
mb|4H|mb|p|nt|yo_yo: versace claimed 13, was he correct?|pg||
nt|rcerreto: in CR they succeeded|pg||
nt|rcerreto: if he convinced opps... :)|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|rcerreto: a wild 4@h from D'Avossa|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s8|nt|rcerreto: can he make?|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s2|pg||
pc|s7|nt|yo_yo: brave 4@H bid but it shouldnt pay off|pg||
nt|stc: the good defense|pg||
nt|rcerreto: in CR the bid started in the same way|pg||
nt|rcerreto: but S passed and N then bid 4@c raised by S|pg||
nt|rcerreto: N isn't at ease on 1@s|pg||
nt|rcerreto: too good to bid only 2@c but doubling puts you in a bad position after opps preempt|pg||
nt|yo_yo: maybe if South can double over 3@S?  but maybe that denis 4@H|pg||
nt|rcerreto: I think it should deny 4 of them, yes|pg||
nt|marlowepi: rehi all, sorry about dodgy connection here in Poznan:(|pg||
nt|rcerreto: I'd agree with CR pass, 4333 shape and soft values|pg||
nt|rcerreto: welcome Marshall|pg||
nt|vugraphpld: D Avossa is thiking...|pg||
nt|rcerreto: he has to|pg||
nt|marlowepi: S may have bid 4H here not as a value bid but instead as an attempt to transfer the opponents into a phantom save at the colors|pg||
nt|rcerreto: not even GIB can make this|pg||
nt|vugraphpld: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswrunda4.html|pg||
pc|h4|pc|s4|pc|s9|pg||
nt|rcerreto: yes, make sense. Too bad they didn't fall in the trap :)|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c6|pc|cQ|pc|c2|pg||
pc|cT|nt|marlowepi: had N just bid a normal 2C, his side would be in better shape|pg||
nt|yo_yo: is it not too strong for 2@C?  Forrester obviously thought so|pg||
nt|rcerreto: as long as I lean toward bidding 2@c, dbl isn't a madness|pg||
nt|yo_yo: if he thinks it's right, that's  OK  with me :)|pg||
pc|d4|pc|cA|pc|c7|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cJ|pc|c5|pc|h5|pg||
nt|stc: so the 1st swing for Allfrey|pg||
nt|rcerreto: yes|pg||
pc|sK|pc|h7|pc|sQ|pc|sJ|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|h8|pg||
pc|c9|nt|yo_yo: now use @C to draw trumps and give in|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h9|pc|hQ|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|c12|st||md|2SJ92HJT92DKT7CQT5,SAKT73HKQ85DJ94C2,S8HA74DAQ2CAK9843,SQ654H63D8653CJ76|sv|n|nt|eamongall: Here defence need to find the @C ruff in time to beat 4@Hs |pg||
nt|roswolf: 10 or 11 tricks operator?|pg||
nt|davpro: there was actually 12 to take (double dummie)|pg||
nt|pelu: hi all|pg||
nt|roswolf: solid start for the dutch|pg||
nt|MolvaM: good start|pg||
nt|roswolf: a fortuitous start for angelini|pg||
nt|roswolf: hu bill|pg||
nt|roswolf: hi bill:)|pg||
nt|roswolf: more spice here|pg||
mb|1S|nt|davpro: 10 point all around. |pg||
nt|Walddk4: Welcome Peter and Murat|pg||
nt|MolvaM: hello|pg||
nt|athene: without the @DA Nunes would likely have led fourth best|pg||
mb|d|nt|bridge_one: with 6/5 and only 1 defencive trick normally better to play in attack|pg||
nt|danilo1: strang - when we look in names here|pg||
mb|3S|mb|p|nt|runnerup: perhaps east should take it away -he has got support in hearts so ..|pg||
nt|jbgood: Angelini seems to be in the A Swiss almost no matter what happens in this match|pg||
nt|roswolf: now a hand for n/s to bid|pg||
mb|p|nt|davpro: y and Mossop will need a good result to joij them|pg||
nt|roswolf: fulvio has seen his pard's bids before|pg||
mb|4C|mb|p|nt|davpro: *join|pg||
nt|jbgood: 24 vps to Mossop |pg||
nt|jbgood: 3 from each group to A - the others to B|pg||
nt|pelu: hard decision by S - 4@H is down 1 and 5@c also down 1|pg||
nt|MolvaM: 5c looks good|pg||
nt|pelu: sorry 5@c making - only defense is @H lead and the @S - kill the entry for the 4. @D|pg||
nt|jfaria:  5! still cheap if opps bid game|pg||
mb|5C|nt|hawe45:  About 12 tricks again - but lucky and only in South|pg||
nt|bridge_one: Jxxx in @D are very much - the double by Versace means balanced hand value in @S - Zaleski can reopen|pg||
mb|p|nt|MolvaM: kibs rush in to tell me that if defence plays spades 5c cant make|pg||
mb|p|nt|jbgood: then 27 from A and 5 from B go on to the KO stage|pg||
nt|davpro: They found a 6-1 fit instead of the 6-0 fit. On level higher though|pg||
nt|pelu: has to take 3x@C befor @D|pg||
mb|p|nt|eamongall: the non-vul Townsend might venture an insurance 4@Hs |pg||
nt|jbgood: but I think a black suit or even NT play better than @ds|pg||
nt|davpro: y|pg||
nt|roswolf: some sort of short suit trial bid?|pg||
pc|s5|nt|MolvaM: we see all 4 hands but sometimes at the table it is not obvious to shift to spades|pg||
nt|danilo1: 5@C is on ... and good to avoid 4@H, that is tempting in 4-3 fit (single @S on 3-card side)|pg||
pc|s2|nt|bridge_one: so 2@C forcing one round|pg||
nt|hawe45:  Best lead: @S King|pg||
nt|hawe45:  Sorry - NORTH is declarer... - wake up|pg||
nt|pelu: yes defense has to kill @SA|pg||
pc|sK|nt|roswolf: south wont get in much to lead trumps|pg||
nt|hawe45:  But would also make on the @S-lead|pg||
nt|bridge_one: lead small @S possible but @H equivalent - many use to overcall 1@S in West to give the lead|pg||
nt|bridge_one: with weak 5332 i agree to pass like Versace|pg||
nt|hawe45:  But an overcall would put the contract in South, so...|pg||
nt|runnerup: nothing really helps,but contracts should have been by south this time -by n= -if spade lead,but now 12|pg||
nt|bridge_one: the option between @H and @S lead is a typical problem in bridge|pg||
pc|s8|pg||
nt|eamongall: Now defence need to get active |pg||
nt|roswolf: 2nt|pg||
nt|granguru:  HI ALL|pg||
nt|MolvaM: 4s has good chances|pg||
nt|granguru:  HI ALL|pg||
pc|s3|nt|MolvaM: with trump Kx inside and clubs 3-3 and the @dK safe|pg||
pc|c3|pc|s4|nt|roswolf: and wont necessarily lead one anyway:)|pg||
nt|jbgood: hi Roland and all|pg||
nt|jbgood: sry - wrong table:)|pg||
nt|jbgood: maybe 2 |pg||
pc|s9|pg||
nt|eamongall: still time |pg||
nt|bagman: N has to duck the @HK if W plays a low heart|pg||
nt|bagman: Both N and S know that there are no spade tricks to make|pg||
nt|MolvaM: even in the case of a spade shift, stuurman has to be very careful to keep all his diamonds and let his spade honor go|pg||
pc|cK|nt|bridge_one: i prefere to lead in the suit more solid, but without a solid suit i prefere the lead from small cards - but is is only a opinion|pg||
nt|jbgood: NT is more flexible than 3@d|pg||
pc|c6|nt|bagman: They also see the clubs so they can make extra tricks only from trumps|pg||
pc|c5|nt|MolvaM: 46 teams playing in group A (27 will qualify), and 74 teams playing in group B (only 5 teams will qualify)|pg||
pc|c2|pg||
pc|cA|nt|athene: a stronger defence was diamond lead, heart back, then another diamond|pg||
pc|c7|pc|cT|pc|s7|pg||
pc|c4|pc|cJ|nt|jbgood: an imaginative E might bid 3@c then:)|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|sT|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|hA|nt|eamongall: At another table McGann Brown have reached the happy position of having 3 vulnerable doubled undertricks available against 4@S ...they still have to collect them |pg||
mc|11|nt|roswolf: hi john|pg||
nt|MolvaM: hi john|pg||
nt|danilo1: good play .. 2 Dummy entries for (if needed) repeated @H finess|pg||
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qx|o13|st||md|3S752HKQT75DAJ4CK5,SAJT4HJ643DK972CQ,SK9HA98DQ83CAT642,SQ863H2DT65CJ9873|sv|b|nt|marlowepi: obviously it is a matter of partnership agreements, but on borderline hands where they have spades i think it is better  to bid the good 6-card suit  with only 3 hearts and to ...|pg||
nt|marlowepi: double with four. the crucial factor is partner's hearts, and if spades are raised then his responsive double is length-ambiguous. when you have four hearts you can afford to ...|pg||
nt|marlowepi: double because even a 44 fit is ok|pg||
nt|stc: now a flat board|pg||
mb|1C!|mb|p|nt|rcerreto: natural but as short as 2|pg||
mb|1D!|mb|p|mb|1H!|mb|p|nt|rcerreto: 1@d transfer|pg||
mb|2D!|nt|rcerreto: 1@h shows 3 of them|pg||
nt|stc: GF|pg||
nt|rcerreto: 2@d GF|pg||
nt|yo_yo: they are all transferring !|pg||
mb|p|nt|rcerreto: it's the last fashion :)|pg||
mb|2H!|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|rcerreto: better|pg||
nt|rcerreto: on a @s lead, 3NT looks to fail|pg||
nt|stc: I play more or less the same and I am very satisfied with it|pg||
nt|yo_yo: no t/fer in the CR so played other way up|pg||
nt|marlowepi: the 3N call might seem to risk wrong-siding, but it might be the club king that needs protectiing|pg||
nt|rcerreto: after overcalls, putting the overcaller in lead is surely better|pg||
nt|yo_yo: the CR must be more old fashioned :)|pg||
pc|s6|nt|rcerreto: in uncontested auctions is less clear|pg||
nt|rcerreto: you gain some space but you loose some|pg||
pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|s9|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|s3|pc|s5|pg||
nt|marlowepi: annoying for W trhat it is dummy who can handle a later spade ruff|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|h3|pg||
pc|h9|pc|c3|pc|hK|pc|h4|pg||
pc|s7|pc|s4|pc|h8|pc|s8|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|dJ|nt|marlowepi: claiming 4 very soon|pg||
pc|dK|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|c13|st||md|3S752HKQT75DAJ4CK5,SAJT4HJ643DK972CQ,SK9HA98DQ83CAT642,SQ863H2DT65CJ9873|sv|b|nt|runnerup: took 10 -so -1 imp|pg||
nt|MolvaM: here is the link to running scores http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswleaderb.html|pg||
nt|athene: interesting 3NT call by north in the other room|pg||
mb|1C|nt|bagman: EW are currently 4th fighting for a medal|pg||
mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|nt|jbgood: looks like a peaceful 3 NT by N|pg||
nt|jbgood: or S for that matter|pg||
nt|MolvaM: tokay-baldursson at the open room is a very new partnership which might explain why they couldnt find the grand|pg||
nt|athene: certainly a bit of a gamble but it paid off very nicely this time|pg||
mb|2H|mb|p|nt|danilo1: looks like routine 4@H|pg||
mb|4H|nt|runnerup: normal 4 @h = with no other ideas -from anyone -looks like it ,but..|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|bagman: Rimsted clearly gambling with her heart suit|pg||
nt|davpro: yes. 9 easy tricks, but not the best communications...|pg||
nt|jbgood: 1 nt - 2 @h - 2 NT - 3 NT?|pg||
mb|p|nt|Gerben42:  some would call it practical :)|pg||
nt|bridge_one: all colors taked by weak players :)|pg||
nt|bridge_one: North bid both, @D and @H|pg||
nt|jfaria:  another routine game|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|MolvaM: misfit hand but contract seems makable|pg||
nt|roswolf: slam possible here perhaps|pg||
nt|jfaria:  at least for us looking at 4 hands|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c7|nt|athene: 6@S would not be great here even with the @D9|pg||
pc|cK|pg||
nt|pelu: 2@S in OR|pg||
nt|athene: the point being, on a club lead, you have to draw trumps and then cash four hearts to discard a club from the north hand|pg||
pc|s7|nt|MolvaM: the first non-alert after 3 rounds of bidding :)|pg||
pc|s4|nt|jbgood: N should know that the @c king counts for full - and bid 3 imo|pg||
pc|sK|nt|davpro: They stopped low, but if @ds are not 3-3 a higher contract would be a struggle|pg||
pc|s3|pg||
nt|danilo1: @CQ lead may create some playing options ... cashing 2 @H immediatelly may be loosing option|pg||
pc|s9|pc|s6|nt|roswolf: although the bidding thus far is cloaked in mystery they seem to be powering into it|pg||
pc|s2|nt|Gerben42:  with a bit more fortune it would have been a claimer|pg||
nt|bagman: In pairs it might not be that practical as the bonus for the game is not that big as in teams|pg||
pc|sJ|pg||
nt|bridge_one: duck this @D could be a idea|pg||
nt|hawe45:  Gives the same result, if South plays safe|pg||
nt|bridge_one: but give at south the chance to fault|pg||
nt|danilo1: well done|pg||
pc|sA|nt|roswolf: 4@S MIGHT BE FINIS|pg||
nt|roswolf: and it is not sure what happened there|pg||
nt|MolvaM: at the other table, tokay asked for keycards and then asked for the trump queen apparently. why??|pg||
nt|roswolf: very true|pg||
pc|h8|nt|hawe45:  Absolutely|pg||
nt|MolvaM: on the previous board|pg||
nt|athene: actually i guess it would be ok (provided the hearts come in)|pg||
pc|s8|pc|s5|pg||
nt|pelu: the @D-lead gave S a fine tempo|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|dJ|pc|dK|pg||
nt|MolvaM: west was somewhat stuck for a good lead|pg||
nt|pelu: 110 = 9 IMP for Monaco|pg||
pc|d2|nt|jfaria:  claim is near|pg||
pc|d8|pc|d6|pc|dA|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg||
pc|h9|pc|c3|nt|jbgood: the point is that you create swings when you dont bid games on 26 combined |pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|o14|st||md|4SJ63HQJ765D3CKT76,ST9H32DT9872CA983,S82HAKT98D654CQ42,SAKQ754H4DAKQJCJ5|sv|o|nt|rcerreto: this is nice|pg||
nt|marlowepi: 6D|pg||
nt|rcerreto: you can't make 6@s if defense remove the @cA|pg||
nt|rcerreto: but you make 6@d|pg||
mb|2C|an|Strong|mb|p|mb|2D|an| |mb|2H|mb|2S|nt|yo_yo: can they find the @D fit though?|pg||
nt|marlowepi: it will be impressive if EW reach 6D. i am betting on them|pg||
nt|rcerreto: unlikely|pg||
mb|5H|nt|yo_yo: especially now with intervention|pg||
nt|stc: yes, going down in 6@s would be quite depressing on this hand|pg||
mb|p|nt|stc: forget @ds now|pg||
nt|rcerreto: the defense is far from being obvious, though|pg||
nt|yo_yo: might force them into it , those 5 level interventions are dangerous|pg||
nt|rcerreto: they can't see a discard coming on @ds|pg||
mb|p|nt|marlowepi: yes we have all been there:)|pg||
nt|stc: after a @h lead, what else to play ? second @h ?|pg||
nt|marlowepi: i disagree|pg||
nt|marlowepi: E opened 2C, and NS soon know they have all ten HCP in hearts|pg||
mb|5S|mb|p|nt|marlowepi: danger of long diamonds is not hard to see. however the clubs may also be dangerous|pg||
nt|rcerreto: exactly|pg||
nt|yo_yo: Robson will surely bid on|pg||
nt|dburn: Robson may have been hoping that Allfrey would double, so that he could pull it to show a slam try|pg||
nt|rcerreto: make decl's hand: one more @s, one less @d and @cQ instead of J|pg||
nt|yo_yo: Ace and 5 card side suit|pg||
nt|marlowepi: well he knows E has heart shortness|pg||
nt|dburn: but Allfrey has crossed him up by bidding on himself|pg||
nt|yo_yo: yes, that too|pg||
nt|yo_yo: What would x of 5@H be?|pg||
nt|marlowepi: pass was probably positive|pg||
nt|dburn: I don't know whether they play some form of pass-double inversion|pg||
nt|rcerreto: think so|pg||
nt|marlowepi: welcome david|pg||
nt|dburn: but if they don't, then double of 5@h would be discouraging|pg||
nt|rcerreto: if pass was positive, I'd expect...|pg||
nt|rcerreto: W hasn't a much more than promised|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|d4|nt|yo_yo: 6 on that lead|pg||
pc|dJ|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s9|pc|s2|pg||
nt|yo_yo: but normal |pg||
pc|sK|pc|s6|pc|sT|pc|s8|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|sJ|mc|12|nt|yo_yo: North south did well, they couldnt bid their @D|pg||
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qx|c14|st||md|4SJ63HQJ765D3CKT76,ST9H32DT9872CA983,S82HAKT98D654CQ42,SAKQ754H4DAKQJCJ5|sv|o|nt|bagman: with both spades and diamonds open 3NT requires some luck|pg||
nt|davpro: So, with less and 3-4-1-5 distibution he would always pass?|pg||
nt|jbgood: yes|pg||
nt|MolvaM: zmud has 5-5 reds again|pg||
nt|MolvaM: anyway...|pg||
nt|MolvaM: another lively hand|pg||
nt|roswolf: another freakish deal|pg||
nt|athene: west isn't quite worth 2@H i think in their style|pg||
mb|2C|nt|roswolf: hi all|pg||
nt|pelu: 5@h is max|pg||
nt|jfaria:  slam zone|pg||
mb|2H!|mb|p|nt|bridge_one: same defence in other room |pg||
nt|athene: their 2-level openers are 10-13 and only really, really huge 9-counts qualify|pg||
nt|roswolf: indeed not now here come the fireworks|pg||
nt|athene: in third seat, of course, things are relaxed a bit... :)|pg||
nt|roswolf: :)|pg||
mb|3H|nt|athene: north will lebensohl his way to 3@H i guess|pg||
nt|roswolf: can west rdbl for blood here?|pg||
mb|3S|nt|bridge_one: 2@H is limited at 9 hcp 3 cards raise|pg||
nt|roswolf: indeed|pg||
nt|MolvaM: 3rd slam hand in a row?|pg||
nt|jfaria:  better in @d|pg||
nt|danilo1: if ev. 6@S ... @C lead or @H and @C switch may be vital|pg||
nt|danilo1: *is vital for defense|pg||
nt|danilo1: ... rite contract (unbeatable) is not 6@S ... but 6@D ... guess difficult to come there |pg||
mb|p|nt|runnerup: you have to guess well to make 4 @h -but that is bedt|pg||
nt|hawe45:  A poor 4 @H - but you might be forced to "guess" right|pg||
nt|bridge_one: East is evaluating what bid|pg||
nt|runnerup: this @d lead asked may help to get rid off spade looser|pg||
nt|jbgood: choice between dbl and 1 NT...|pg||
nt|jbgood: pass never an option for Boye on a near opener|pg||
nt|roswolf: lebensohl is heading n/s into danger here|pg||
nt|athene: well, whether he can or not, he didn't|pg||
mb|4C|nt|roswolf: east will leap high|pg||
nt|MolvaM: leader board and running scores http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswleaderb.html|pg||
nt|roswolf: but is it high enough|pg||
nt|athene: sometimes if you redouble in these auctions you help opps because they now have more room to scramble for the best fit|pg||
mb|p|nt|jbgood: but defense may start with 3 spades and 5 hearts|pg||
nt|roswolf: this is where south needs discipline|pg||
mb|4D|nt|jbgood: not any more|pg||
nt|davpro: 8 quick tricks for defense here on a spade lead. 7 for declarer on that lead|pg||
nt|jbgood: 7 th in the bag|pg||
nt|athene: also you warn them with borderline hands to stay low|pg||
nt|roswolf: 3@S WHATEVER IT MEANS SEEM OVER THE TOP - WEST SHAPENS HIS AXE|pg||
nt|athene: so here for example if west had redoubled, south might well have decided his partner didn't have what was needed|pg||
nt|roswolf: sharpens|pg||
nt|jfaria:  4@c must be @d |pg||
mb|p|nt|MolvaM: lets see if they can locate the missing @d control|pg||
nt|roswolf: they should do|pg||
nt|roswolf: the flexible double|pg||
nt|roswolf: ouch is comming|pg||
mb|4S|nt|bagman: Declarer needs to ruff the heart losers and discard a club on a diamond|pg||
nt|hawe45:  UNDO|pg||
nt|MolvaM: spade honors not so attractive for madala|pg||
nt|roswolf: this may well be passed|pg||
nt|roswolf: south has nothing to cue and has soft club values|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|roswolf: they dont have a lot of hcp to spare|pg||
nt|pelu: in OR NS in 6@H - looks like S gave a false cue bid in @D - but it was an artifical bidding over 6 round|pg||
nt|MolvaM: wow thats enterprising|pg||
nt|roswolf: i think the italians are merciful|pg||
mb|p|nt|MolvaM: in another table north could go with J2N and that might be a problem|pg||
nt|danilo1: exactelly ... if Alfredo decides to try more than 4@S ... he will not bid Diamonds :)|pg||
nt|danilo1: I believe 4@C was just cue|pg||
nt|jfaria:  456 kibs tell me 4@c is just a cue |pg||
nt|jfaria:  being a cue, no way to reach @d :(|pg||
nt|Walddk1: Not likely as we only have 285 here|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|roswolf: i am told they are in slam in the other room|pg||
nt|roswolf: well he still likes his hand|pg||
nt|jfaria:  just a figure of speach :)|pg||
nt|danilo1: NS have done very well to enter bidding ... if South pass, EW would have time to find @D |pg||
pc|h2|nt|MolvaM: well even if diamonds are not led. no way to get rid of the 2 losers|pg||
nt|roswolf: and that is enough for norberto:)|pg||
nt|MolvaM: does 4s have any specific meaning?|pg||
nt|MolvaM: or just an old fashioned cue?|pg||
pc|hK|nt|runnerup: no fight now just posible over tricks |pg||
nt|roswolf: yes i want to bid on and i have a spade control|pg||
nt|roswolf: the latter|pg||
nt|roswolf: this seems an easy-ish make|pg||
pc|h4|pg||
nt|bagman: The @DA must be with E: if W has it, then E has the clubs|pg||
nt|hawe45:  But how can you play bridge - NOT leading partners suit with Ace-x???|pg||
nt|hawe45:  You MUST have seen too many bad overcalls|pg||
nt|bridge_one: 2@H now|pg||
nt|MolvaM: try both finesses and hope that the @d10 takes care of itself|pg||
nt|roswolf: the pass of 4@S said dont lead one i am told:) so he follows his own suggestion:)|pg||
nt|Walddk1: Good morning to Glen Ashton|pg||
nt|glen: hi|pg||
nt|jfaria:  hard to tell probably Lauria would treat is hand as single suited..|pg||
pc|hA|nt|pelu: very controles bidding here|pg||
nt|roswolf: safe enough here|pg||
nt|athene: declarer's concern on a diamond shift is whether to finesse the @C9|pg||
nt|roswolf: now off|pg||
pc|s4|nt|athene: but i don't think he will|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h3|pg||
nt|hawe45:  Happy Christmas now|pg||
nt|bridge_one: push hand|pg||
nt|runnerup: looks srange but no spade losers went away |pg||
pc|sA|pc|s3|nt|jbgood: as suggested Angeline bid and made 3 NT on the previous one|pg||
pc|s9|nt|MolvaM: I wont lead one :)|pg||
nt|athene: he might be considering whether to try to make the contract by playing east for the @HK|pg||
nt|roswolf: yes but east's double is a warning|pg||
nt|danilo1: as I said before ... on Bd 12 - 4@H in 4-3 fit has been very tempting ... happened in OR - and 12 IMP for Allfrey|pg||
pc|s8|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s6|pc|sT|nt|jbgood: strange that N didnt try a big spade first...|pg||
nt|roswolf: draw trumps and take the diamonf hook|pg||
nt|MolvaM: can pull trumps and discard diamonds on clubs to ruff out the king|pg||
nt|MolvaM: which also works|pg||
pc|s2|pg||
mc|12|pg||
qx|o15|st||md|1S8HAJT76DJ5CAK852,SQ975H53DK3CQT763,SAK62HKQ942D642C4,SJT43H8DAQT987CJ9|sv|n|nt|rcerreto: any pushed board is actually bad for Zaleski which is badly looking for points|pg||
mb|1H|mb|p|nt|rcerreto: that could be the reason for the wild 4@h bid by S in board 12|pg||
nt|yo_yo: how do the italians agree the suit, Jacoby ?|pg||
nt|yo_yo: or splinter|pg||
mb|2N!|an|4+!h GF|nt|yo_yo: jacoby for Forrester and also for Intonti|pg||
nt|rcerreto: sort of Jacoby, unsure about developments|pg||
mb|3D|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|marlowepi: 6 making unless D lead, notobvious|pg||
nt|rcerreto: easier after 3@d overcall :)|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d2|nt|rcerreto: timely judged by E|pg||
nt|marlowepi: for some partnerships, yes:)|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d5|pg||
mc|11|nt|marlowepi: it is almost always safe to bid after a GF trump raise by opps|pg||
nt|vugraphpld: fast claim :)|pg||
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qx|c15|st||md|1S8HAJT76DJ5CAK852,SQ975H53DK3CQT763,SAK62HKQ942D642C4,SJT43H8DAQT987CJ9|sv|n|nt|Gerben42:  after 1@C the E hand is too big for 4@H I guess|pg||
nt|bagman: NS can make a minor suit slam|pg||
nt|bagman: Maybe EW have some Namyats type of device over 1m openings|pg||
nt|Gerben42:  3N-2 was only worth 20%|pg||
nt|Gerben42:  last round not finished yet?|pg||
nt|bagman: If N can show real clubs, S hand becomes very valuable with the source of tricks, heart control and trump support|pg||
nt|Gerben42:  if it starts 1@C 4@H, what does S bid?|pg||
nt|Gerben42:  4NT perhaps|pg||
nt|bagman: but E has a hand where she can prevent NS from changing that information. After 1@C, E can bid 4@H and then?|pg||
nt|Gerben42:  esp. tough if 1@C can be short (3 or even 2 cards)|pg||
nt|bagman: if 4NT shows primary diamonds and secondary clubs then it's the bid|pg||
nt|Gerben42:  the problem with such a bid is - what will pd think it is|pg||
nt|bagman: I wouldn't be surprised if there are some other agreements for the meaning of 4NT|pg||
nt|bagman: or no agreements :)|pg||
nt|Gerben42:  this is an area where regular partnerships are ahead of the game|pg||
nt|bagman: 6@HX is 500; it's better than the vulnerable game for EW so they might take the sac|pg||
nt|runnerup: 11 in both tables and we though how to make 10|pg||
nt|MolvaM: specs tell me slam makable if no @d lead|pg||
nt|MolvaM: well if you can duck a diamond and then squeeze somebody afterwards :) maybe|pg||
nt|MolvaM: not sure if this play was superior|pg||
nt|roswolf: yes|pg||
nt|roswolf: for running scores http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswleaderb.html|pg||
nt|athene: south could make 6 of a red suit here if only he could get to dummy twice (lead the @H7 picks the suit up)|pg||
nt|roswolf: there will be some fun and games here|pg||
nt|athene: sorry - of course he can do it|pg||
nt|athene: lead to @SA, and lead the small heart|pg||
nt|athene: then later get to dummy with a heart and lead a diamond to the queen|pg||
nt|athene: easy!|pg||
nt|roswolf: hmm perhaps not at the table -in the bidding|pg||
nt|athene: only needs east to have @HHx and @DKx|pg||
nt|roswolf: game not reached at the other table|pg||
nt|athene: hampson-greco playing precision so 1@D is nebulous|pg||
nt|athene: south can be very aggressive if he knows his partner actually has some diamonds|pg||
nt|athene: but not when it might just be two small|pg||
nt|roswolf: indeed these kind of hands are horrible for strong club systems|pg||
nt|roswolf: or less bill|pg||
nt|athene: well it's at least a doubleton for them i think; they use 2@D for the short diamond hands|pg||
nt|vugraphplc: Nunes call director|pg||
nt|roswolf: short of bds!?or something wrong with the last hand?|pg||
nt|vugraphplc: becouse 2nt invit or forsing |pg||
nt|athene: hmmm - they are not happy about something from the previous board, i guess|pg||
nt|athene: ah - you mean nunes was told that 2NT was showing a good hand and that is why he didn't double?|pg||
nt|danilo1: this is anothe swing possibility|pg||
nt|danilo1: meant 6@D (@S)|pg||
mb|1H|nt|Gerben42:  something to be said for 5@H overcall too|pg||
nt|bridge_one: in 4@H in other match one made one down|pg||
nt|hawe45:  5 @D N/S should end the auction|pg||
nt|roswolf: wont make much difference anyway|pg||
mb|p|nt|MolvaM: if trumps were 3-1 he would have to fall back on the @d hook|pg||
mb|2N!|nt|bagman: against a strong 1@C 5@H would be fine|pg||
nt|runnerup: 3nt also,but ew can bid more|pg||
mb|3D|nt|roswolf: 4@S here is the likely spot|pg||
nt|roswolf: a heart partial would be sensible|pg||
mb|4C|nt|bridge_one: 5@D can be beated with @S lead|pg||
nt|runnerup: no just loose that|pg||
mb|p|nt|runnerup: small from table |pg||
nt|jbgood: some lucky day you make 6 @s on this lot - but not today|pg||
nt|athene: 1nt now? :) - he does have seven stoppers in the unbid suit|pg||
nt|roswolf: the diamond suit now consigned to the dustbin|pg||
nt|athene: i bet a lot of partnerships don't know what a jump in 4th suit means|pg||
nt|athene: i.e. 3@D here - is that natural forcing, natural non-forcing, or what?|pg||
nt|roswolf: what is wrong with a natural 1@D RESPONSE?|pg||
nt|glen: peaceful 4@h here|pg||
nt|danilo1: NS need to stop on time (5@H still on time) ... ev. 4@S or 5@D by EW will be too expensive|pg||
nt|jfaria:  3@d ends any slam mess in N/S intentions|pg||
mb|4S|mb|p|nt|roswolf: south is sensible|pg||
nt|MolvaM: west also :)|pg||
nt|MolvaM: would have been interesting to watch 3@dX|pg||
nt|athene: no-one ever bids a strong 7-card minor if they have a major of any description|pg||
mb|5H|nt|bridge_one: after pass at 5@C @S lead became possible|pg||
nt|hawe45:  Lightner...|pg||
nt|bridge_one: @S ruff, K @C - declarer lose the ruff, one @C and A@H|pg||
nt|roswolf: yup he had the colors to help him|pg||
nt|athene: i think officially in SAYC a jump in 4th suit is defined as natural and invitational|pg||
nt|glen: ok, a quiet 5@H|pg||
mb|p|nt|runnerup: ok wrong hand|pg||
nt|hawe45:  No right hand|pg||
nt|bridge_one: many pair use pass at 5@C like OK to lead @C, instead DBL means to lead in another suit|pg||
nt|bridge_one: but i don't know the gadget played by E/W|pg||
nt|jbgood: investigating for a club contract (slam?) and got no reaction of a positive kind |pg||
mb|p|nt|runnerup: so it was all academical|pg||
mb|p|nt|bagman: Malinowski has very little defense and can hope that they go down only 3|pg||
nt|athene: but it's one of those dark corners that no-one knows about|pg||
nt|roswolf: 1-5-7-0 will not be an obvious shape to the defenders|pg||
pc|dK|nt|athene: @SK to the ace, diamond finesse i guess|pg||
nt|danilo1: guess will not miss the jead after bidding :)|pg||
pc|d2|nt|bridge_one: now np|pg||
nt|MolvaM: trump lead effective stop a club ruff|pg||
nt|athene: fantoni might stick the @DK in|pg||
nt|roswolf: but north made a normal if aggressive raise to the vul game|pg||
nt|danilo1: *lead|pg||
pc|dA|nt|pelu: kibs - if u know EW-bidding then help us :)|pg||
pc|d5|pg||
nt|bagman: Good time to take the save; in pairs taking an 800 save against a making slam is not a way to win; normally you should take your chances and try to beat the slam|pg||
nt|jbgood: @d cue was what S did NOT want to get|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|davpro: But from Ns view; doesn't it seem as if S hasn't got a @h cue?|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d3|pc|d4|pg||
nt|athene: now declarer is worried the @DQ might get ruffed, so he would like to lead a diamond from dummy|pg||
nt|athene: but entries are a bit on the short side|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|o16|st||md|2SAKT8HJT73DKJTCQ5,SJ63HAQ84D864CAJT,S9542HK92DQ2CK942,SQ7H65DA9753C8763|sv|e|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|d|nt|yo_yo: 1@s t/fer to @D?|pg||
nt|yo_yo: difficult for the Italians to bid their @S now|pg||
nt|yo_yo: unless X shows @S?|pg||
nt|stc: why ' they already did !|pg||
mb|1N|nt|yo_yo: probably majors yes|pg||
nt|stc: 1@s is probably no major|pg||
nt|marlowepi: i believe 1S us a normal 1N response|pg||
nt|stc: with many possible continuations|pg||
nt|rcerreto: Intonti is likely considering whether to dbl or to bid 2@S|pg||
mb|d|nt|rcerreto: E won't likely seat|pg||
nt|marlowepi: he is a bit too good for 2S and wrong for 3S. since NS have the ranking suit, N can double then bid spades to show in between (if that is their method)|pg||
nt|yo_yo: allfrey will probably run to 2@C|pg||
nt|stc: 2@d could be defeated|pg||
nt|marlowepi: 1C can be 2 so i am guessing redouble|pg||
nt|yo_yo: Joanna tells me Allrey didnt alert 1@S, that's odd|pg||
mb|2D|mb|d|nt|yo_yo: (of course it's self alert when they use screens)|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sA|nt|stc: they must take the @h trick before 2@s rounds|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|s7|pg||
pc|h3|nt|stc: wd|pg||
nt|marlowepi: not much in this, 140 vs 200|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|h5|pg||
nt|rcerreto: any decl or defense line of play seems to lead to -1|pg||
nt|yo_yo: maybe @H2 return, the 9 might be too dangerous|pg||
nt|vugraphpld: S is thinking:)|pg||
nt|vugraphpld: *N|pg||
nt|rcerreto: isn't N on lead?|pg||
nt|rcerreto: ah, ok|pg||
nt|vugraphpld: sorry, N is thinking:)|pg||
nt|rcerreto: as I said before, not only Robson thinks a lot|pg||
nt|rcerreto: also Intonti does :)|pg||
nt|yo_yo: it's not an attractive dummy to lead to|pg||
nt|stc: they don't know that the game is over :)|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d3|pc|dT|pc|d4|pg||
pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|dJ|pc|d6|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c5|pc|cT|pc|cK|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|s6|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h6|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s5|pc|c3|pc|s8|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h9|pc|d5|pc|h7|pg||
pc|c7|pc|cQ|pc|cA|mc|7|pg||
qx|c16|st||md|2SAKT8HJT73DKJTCQ5,SJ63HAQ84D864CAJT,S9542HK92DQ2CK942,SQ7H65DA9753C8763|sv|e|nt|bagman: If declarer planned to steal a the spade, she should have tried it before drawing trumps; the early play should have been either the steal attempt or claim -3 :)|pg||
nt|bridge_one: in other room the auction was different, so the lead was @C|pg||
nt|jbgood: nice major fits around the table|pg||
nt|jbgood: I may just have to stand corrected - i am told that Angelini in the OR also bid to 6 @s|pg||
nt|davpro: There will be (high) bidding :)|pg||
nt|MolvaM: leader board and running scores http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswleaderb.html|pg||
mb|1C|nt|roswolf: 4@S seems to be good here|pg||
mb|p|nt|roswolf: this could be colorful|pg||
mb|1D|nt|MolvaM: 2d alerted?|pg||
nt|roswolf: yeah @D:)|pg||
nt|MolvaM: ok means no 4 card spades|pg||
mb|d|nt|bridge_one: 3@H for N/S and 3@S for E/W here|pg||
nt|runnerup: may end for double partscore swing|pg||
nt|MolvaM: thanks kibs|pg||
nt|roswolf: yes they use 1NT to show 4 spades +a longer minor|pg||
nt|MolvaM: Im told zmud-bal play the raptor convention |pg||
nt|roswolf: west has an automatic 4@S|pg||
nt|MolvaM: maybe invented by a mr raptor? :)|pg||
nt|pelu: par-contract is 6@d - 5@s and 5@d making|pg||
nt|MolvaM: west thinks abt how many spades to bid?|pg||
nt|pelu: red against green 4@S is fine|pg||
nt|roswolf: n/s comphrensively outbid the americans on the last one|pg||
mb|p|nt|bridge_one: 2@H open probably 10/12 constructive (and 2@D multi)|pg||
nt|davpro: When preempting with 3 in a minor you normally do not have a 4 card major. Nothing said about 5 card suits :)|pg||
nt|roswolf: even on 3 rounds of trumps|pg||
mb|1S|nt|jbgood: hehe|pg||
nt|roswolf: DBL presumably just shows cards|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Welcome to Gy Szalay|pg||
nt|szalay:  hi all|pg||
nt|roswolf: and here a thin 3nt|pg||
nt|athene: hi|pg||
nt|roswolf: hi:)|pg||
mb|p|nt|roswolf: well now judgment comes into it|pg||
nt|MolvaM: 5 level belongs to the opps :)|pg||
nt|pelu: diff to decide on 5-level|pg||
nt|roswolf: south tempted to bid 6?|pg||
nt|MolvaM: zmud cant be sure of void spades so will probably pass|pg||
nt|athene: 1@C natural (ish), strong (ish) and forcing|pg||
nt|szalay:  N-S are a rare pair from Hungary: they r not from Budapest|pg||
nt|szalay:  from our Sun City, Szeged, and could improve a lot thx to BBO|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Are you saying people don't play bridge outside Budapest?|pg||
mb|p|nt|pelu: for sure W cant bid 5@s - but I have been wrong before :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|bagman: Having showed 44 majors and getting no reaction from partner, W could show his 3 card support expecting to be in a decent trump suit|pg||
nt|jfaria:  @s will prevail |pg||
pc|c7|nt|eamongall: If anybody is following a pair you can find their probable table from the following |pg||
nt|jbgood: Boye may lead a club now and get a plus score ag 5|pg||
nt|roswolf: i think it was the @C position which influenced him more|pg||
nt|roswolf: not much to the play the club ace is right or it isnt:)|pg||
nt|athene: if west invites, east might bid it on the strength of the good club suit, even though he is minimum in terms of hcp|pg||
nt|szalay:  not really, they r from Szeged and few pairs from Pecs|pg||
pc|c5|nt|bagman: S wants to compete but the majors are behind her so she gives up|pg||
nt|bridge_one: Q@C help ,,, opps |pg||
pc|cT|nt|szalay:  Hungary is more or less Budapest orientated, bridge is even centralized|pg||
nt|athene: difficult lead problem for south|pg||
nt|glen: should be three aces and a trump|pg||
pc|cK|pg||
nt|bridge_one: OK|pg||
nt|roswolf: the clubs can of course be set up here for 12 tricks|pg||
nt|pelu: 1@H - 4@D - 4@S - 5@D and 51S by Helgemo!|pg||
nt|pelu: 15 INP to Monaco |pg||
nt|MolvaM: no so easy if east ducks|pg||
nt|athene: north could have made life easier, perhaps, by doubling 1@H|pg||
nt|athene: but he finds the heart anyway|pg||
nt|roswolf: indeed|pg||
nt|athene: some play a double of these transfer responses as some sort of takeout double anyway|pg||
nt|athene: for example after nebulous 1@C - 1@H [spades], X = diamonds and hearts, and 1@S = clubs and hearts|pg||
nt|Walddk4: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswrunda3.html|pg||
nt|athene: but without special agreements of that sort i would have thought double would just be hearts and 1@S would be takeout, the same as after a transfer over 1nt|pg||
nt|szalay:  Mr. Zsak is teacher of Szeged bridge, he was teacher of Mr. Cseho of other table when he attended Faculty of Medicine there. as u know: he is my psychiatrist:)|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d3|nt|jbgood: even 6@h a good save over 4@s:)|pg||
nt|jbgood: spade ace and a club takes it 1 down|pg||
nt|davpro: Defense better take their tricks at once...|pg||
nt|danilo1: 140 I believe|pg||
pc|dT|nt|jbgood: north really bid his hand to the limit:)|pg||
nt|MolvaM: 27 teams from group-A will qualify for the knockouts. and 5 teams from group-B|pg||
nt|athene: :)|pg||
nt|athene: east might try ducking in dummy and dropping the @H10 to induce north to lay down the @HK|pg||
nt|athene: but that would only work if south would lead the @H9 from @H9xx|pg||
nt|szalay:  as u know: we, Hungarians try to avoid D lead vs NT|pg||
nt|athene: D = doubleton or diamond?|pg||
nt|szalay:  diamond|pg||
pc|d4|pg||
nt|MolvaM: 15 how? 5s cant be made I think|pg||
nt|jfaria:  peacefull partscore|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|eamongall: We are covering tables 8-15 as shown  on the results web page ... so the bottom 8 lines are tables H G F E A B C D in that order |pg||
nt|jbgood: @s 6 for a club now|pg||
pc|d6|nt|jbgood: Boye should be able to read that|pg||
nt|roswolf: and probably on this layout so can 6@D|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|athene: declarer can't untangle his black suits here|pg||
pc|dA|pg||
nt|szalay:  Diamonds for girls, u know|pg||
pc|h5|nt|eamongall: http://b.poznan2011.pl/mxp/fa.html|pg||
pc|h3|nt|davpro: E could hold 764 from W view|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h2|pg||
pc|h4|nt|eamongall: this is table 13 of 15 in play tables and 3rd line from bottom of scoresheet |pg||
pc|hK|nt|jbgood: but difficult to think that prd has 5 spades (and a @c void...)|pg||
pc|h6|nt|athene: if he unblocks the @SAK he can't get to his clubs|pg||
pc|h7|pg||
nt|pelu: sorry 5@S down 1 - so only 7 IMP|pg||
nt|szalay:  time for hoping up|pg||
nt|athene: of course we can all see @DK, heart gets the job done|pg||
nt|athene: but not so easy for south|pg||
nt|szalay:  I dont see any layout when small is the correct card|pg||
nt|athene: his partner might have singleton @DQ for example|pg||
nt|roswolf: indeed not|pg||
nt|szalay:  he knows pd's cards|pg||
pc|s2|nt|bagman: Now E can ruff the diamond and try the heart to the K|pg||
nt|eamongall: Most pairs move to the table of the pair below them next ... ie 12 goes where 11 used to be |pg||
pc|s7|nt|jbgood: no - then the 7 for his known strenth|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s3|pg||
pc|dK|nt|roswolf: well THE RESULT IN THE OTHER ROOM SPEAKS FOT ITSELF|pg||
nt|MolvaM: wow|pg||
nt|MolvaM: amazingly 5s was made. cant see how|pg||
nt|athene: maybe the 2NT bid denied four diamonds|pg||
pc|d8|pc|h9|pc|d5|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|szalay:  and dummy play is a hint as well|pg||
pc|cA|nt|bagman: The heart attempt is likely to fail as N has shown @DA and @CK already|pg||
pc|c2|nt|szalay:  nice defence, anyway|pg||
pc|c3|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|bagman: but there was nothing better to try|pg||
nt|athene: if so, that is another example of how much easier you make life for the defence when you tell them exactly what declarer has|pg||
nt|roswolf: very true|pg||
nt|glen: now bonus trump trick possible|pg||
pc|c4|nt|davpro: From declarer view E has got 2+@c, so @c to T is the only thing that might work|pg||
pc|c6|nt|bagman: NS currently the 7th; EW about that much from the bottom|pg||
pc|s8|pg||
pc|sK|nt|bridge_one: J @H A K and @C would discard a @D over the good @C in the dummy|pg||
nt|davpro: what do I know...|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s4|pc|sQ|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|o17|st||md|3SQJT8HKJ864DAC654,SA965HT7DJ73CKQ97,SK7432HAQ5DQ854C3,SH932DKT962CAJT82|sv|o|mb|1S!|mb|2N!|mb|4D|mb|5C|nt|stc: CR NS pushed to 5@s|pg||
nt|rcerreto: they could be pushed here, as well|pg||
nt|stc: 5@c is -3 DD and probably -1 in real life|pg||
mb|p!|mb|p|nt|marlowepi: down 1 not obvious with 3-1 clubs on heart lead|pg||
nt|rcerreto: Versace says that, in competition, splinter should always be used to show voids|pg||
mb|5S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|rcerreto: does a stiff A qualify?|pg||
pc|cA|nt|rcerreto: in order to get the lead there|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c7|pc|c3|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c5|nt|stc: must continue @c|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|rcerreto: leading toward a void or a singleton makes a huge difference|pg||
pc|s2|pg||
pc|s3|pc|c8|pc|sQ|pc|s5|pg||
nt|rcerreto: W has to duck trumps twice|pg||
nt|rcerreto: otherwise decl. keeps control|pg||
nt|marlowepi: not a hrad defence to find|pg||
nt|stc: like in CR|pg||
nt|rcerreto: no, not really|pg||
nt|rcerreto: not even for me, much less for Robson|pg||
nt|marlowepi: if declarer plays 3 rounds, win and play a fourth|pg||
nt|yo_yo: good lesson for aspiring players - duck with length in trumps |pg||
nt|rcerreto: decl needs 3 rounds of @h to live|pg||
pc|s8|pc|s9|nt|rcerreto: which is not the case|pg||
pc|sK|pc|d2|pg||
nt|marlowepi: yes if they dont want to be expiring players:)|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d6|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg||
pc|c6|pc|cK|pc|s4|pc|cT|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|h7|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h3|pc|h6|pc|hT|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h9|pc|hK|pc|s6|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|d9|pc|sT|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|c17|st||md|3SQJT8HKJ864DAC654,SA965HT7DJ73CKQ97,SK7432HAQ5DQ854C3,SH932DKT962CAJT82|sv|o|nt|hawe45:  4 @S making - good luck|pg||
nt|jbgood: playing for the singleton jack with E:) |pg||
nt|davpro: @c to T was obviously wrong if E has 2 @c...I'm sleeping|pg||
nt|jbgood: not the precentage play:)|pg||
nt|davpro: no- @c 2-2|pg||
nt|jbgood: yes|pg||
nt|jbgood: sleeping too:)|pg||
nt|roswolf: yes angelini not getting their own way|pg||
mb|1S|nt|bridge_one: 5@H 2 down|pg||
mb|2N!|nt|roswolf: hmm mysterious|pg||
nt|pelu: @H AK |pg||
nt|MolvaM: ahh defence played @hAK|pg||
nt|szalay:  funny, that I read interviews about Fantunes-Angelini affair this morning|pg||
nt|jfaria:  now a choice between to major games|pg||
nt|glen: but W is not selling out cheaply here|pg||
mb|4D|nt|jfaria:  sure not|pg||
mb|5C|mb|p|nt|roswolf: not a good result for hungary in the other room|pg||
mb|p|nt|bridge_one: 4@S correct bid !|pg||
nt|MolvaM: well that was a bit of a careless defence I thk|pg||
nt|roswolf: indeed|pg||
nt|roswolf: dont like the spade overcall|pg||
nt|MolvaM: well the alternative is also not attractive|pg||
nt|jfaria:  4@d says nothing about @h i presume, just shows fit/short|pg||
nt|glen: N's pass would be forcing for most, after the 4@D shortness bid|pg||
nt|glen: now S has to decide if his hand is gold, or straw|pg||
mb|5S|nt|jbgood: 5@s made on the unfortunate lead of the @c ace next door|pg||
nt|jbgood: doubled to boot|pg||
mb|p|nt|roswolf: transfer to spades|pg||
nt|roswolf: 1@H|pg||
nt|szalay:  I doubt anyone could miss a game here|pg||
mb|p|nt|runnerup: north has not found hearts obfiously -so svedish increasing lead perhaps|pg||
nt|jfaria:  depending on agreement|pg||
nt|danilo1: Gold may see @C shortness ... and bid 5@S ... however, not easy choice ...|pg||
mb|p|nt|bagman: E doesn't want to lead from her collection|pg||
nt|bagman: Every card might be right or wrong|pg||
nt|roswolf: but lavazza may suffer in the end|pg||
nt|szalay:  and I wd like to be in 4S, anyway|pg||
nt|athene: most bid more than 1@S with four-card support but i am sure they will unravel it all|pg||
nt|roswolf: OH I COULD VERY EASILY:) |pg||
nt|szalay:  this game about vulnerable bonuses, more or less|pg||
nt|roswolf: might not be good play but.....|pg||
nt|danilo1: correct action - hand looks like double fits|pg||
pc|cA|nt|roswolf: well a simple 4@S on this one|pg||
nt|MolvaM: but congrats geoffrey for yr prediction powers|pg||
nt|jfaria:  that is a nice discussion about ownership of the hand|pg||
pc|c4|nt|szalay:  bridge wd be a very boring game if we could bid seen by both hands|pg||
pc|c7|pc|c3|pg||
nt|MolvaM: u sensed that defence coming and predicted 5s making  :)|pg||
nt|roswolf: this is cheeky|pg||
nt|MolvaM: wasnt a very scientific sequence|pg||
nt|MolvaM: but effective apparently|pg||
nt|MolvaM: looks like he will establish the 5th heart|pg||
nt|MolvaM: for his 10th trick|pg||
nt|roswolf: yes methinks he is very lucky|pg||
pc|c2|nt|pelu: easy game here - time to go for coffee :)|pg||
nt|pelu: but go fast :)|pg||
nt|MolvaM: here is the running scores and current ranking http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswleaderb.html|pg||
pc|c5|pc|cQ|pc|s2|pg||
pc|s3|nt|MolvaM: 46 teams playing in group A (27 will qualify), and 74 teams playing in group B (only 5 teams will qualify)|pg||
nt|roswolf: you need to qualify for SWISS A then:)|pg||
pc|c8|nt|szalay:  I predict 3 imps for Angelini|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s5|pg||
nt|danilo1: Bd 14 - peacefull 4@S in OR too ... so no swing|pg||
nt|glen: versace not cooperating|pg||
nt|glen: he will only win third @S play|pg||
pc|h4|nt|MolvaM: goes for the crossruff|pg||
pc|h7|nt|hawe45:  Trump-lead, North then ducked the @D...|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h2|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|roswolf: i oncerad a statistic -if after a normal opening bid you bid game whenever you are vul you gain on average 8+ imps unless your opps double 66% of the time!: i doubted those stats ...|pg||
nt|roswolf: at the time but i am getting more convinced the more i play/watch the game|pg||
nt|roswolf: once read|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h6|nt|MolvaM: ohh|pg||
nt|szalay:  if u watch (and especially play) more, u know more:)|pg||
pc|hT|pg||
nt|danilo1: danger is too loose trump control ... or to loose @C trick ... probably -1 as will try 3 @H in West|pg||
pc|s4|pc|d2|pc|sT|pc|s6|pg||
pc|hK|pc|s9|pc|h5|nt|MolvaM: lost his way|pg||
pc|h9|pg||
nt|roswolf: this is not the best line- if you overcall on that garbage you need to play it well|pg||
mc|10|nt|athene: on a club lead north could rise ace and play another :) now declarer might finesse as his only chance to make|pg||
nt|athene: thinking north might have @CAQx and be trying to scare him out of a winning play|pg||
pg||
qx|o18|st||md|4SAK97H43DQJ762C65,SJ543HT7DKT3CK732,S2HAQJ86DA9CAQJ98,SQT86HK952D854CT4|sv|n|nt|vugraphpld: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswrunda4.html|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2C!|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|nt|rcerreto: 2@c is "Gazzilli": either natural or any strong hand|pg||
mb|2N|nt|rcerreto: 2@d shows 8+ HCP|pg||
nt|vugraphpld: N alerted 2@c|pg||
mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|nt|marlowepi: S did have an alternative line...what he did was play W for 4324, which gives E 65 the "wrong way round" in the minors. alternative was to play W for 4243 with the strong clubs and ...|pg||
nt|marlowepi: weak diamonds. not likely given the 5C bid, but that might be a tactical shot for the lead against 5S, prepared to run to 5D when doubled. all in all i think that might be the ...|pg||
nt|marlowepi: better shot|pg||
nt|marlowepi: of course nothing avails as cards lie|pg||
nt|rcerreto: 2NT if I remember right is strong and at least 5-5 with a minor|pg||
nt|yo_yo: Gazzilli seems to be the latest fashion too|pg||
mb|3S!|mb|p|nt|yo_yo: (not sure what it is though)|pg||
nt|vugraphpld: S didnt alert 3@s|pg||
nt|rcerreto: it's often usefull with some minor disasters now and then|pg||
mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|nt|rcerreto: now, if 2NT showed @c, 3@s is 5-5 with x @s|pg||
mb|p|nt|stc: A close result which does not help any team|pg||
nt|yo_yo: versace lead @S|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|marlowepi: spade lead makes this marginally awkward as regards communications, but there is so much strength in all suits that defenders are hard uop for tricks|pg||
nt|rcerreto: nice lead, knowing N's @s singleton|pg||
nt|marlowepi: yes, if N has stiff king facing AJxx thats just too bad, probably not beating it anywayt then|pg||
nt|rcerreto: and now Intonti will take all his time|pg||
nt|yo_yo: imaginative anyway :)|pg||
nt|rcerreto: let's bring sandwiches|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s2|pg||
pc|c5|nt|rcerreto: and a few beers|pg||
pc|c3|pc|cQ|pc|c4|pg||
nt|yo_yo: pimms, it's summer|pg||
pc|cA|pc|cT|pc|c6|pc|c2|pg||
nt|yo_yo: lovely @C10|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|d8|nt|marlowepi: EW may not agree|pg||
pc|d2|pc|cK|pg||
nt|rcerreto: :)|pg||
nt|rcerreto: @h7 ?|pg||
nt|marlowepi: now spade five back could lead declarer astray after heart king|pg||
nt|rcerreto: with 4@c in the bag, plus 2@s 2@h and @D A|pg||
nt|marlowepi: if S chooses D finesse he will make but heart will put him in jeopardy thanks to fine opening salvo by Alexander|pg||
nt|rcerreto: he should have a black spot|pg||
nt|marlowepi: he only has one heart|pg||
pc|c7|pc|c9|pc|d5|nt|rcerreto: AQJ?|pg||
nt|marlowepi: i was talking about the defense of a spade back|pg||
pc|d6|pg||
nt|marlowepi: then declarer must guess which red finesse to take. if he chooses hearts, he will then be eligible to misguess spades for an IMP loss|pg||
nt|marlowepi: when i said "in jeopardy", i did not mean as the cards lie|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|rcerreto: ah, ok|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|hT|pg||
nt|marlowepi: sorry it is always confusing when one switches ack and forth from single dummy to double dummy perspective, mea culpa. hasty writing creates problems, sorry:(|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h4|pc|h7|pg||
pc|c8|pc|s6|pc|s7|nt|rcerreto: I know the problem too :)|pg||
pc|s5|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d7|pc|d3|pg||
pc|d9|pc|h9|pc|dJ|pc|dK|pg||
pc|dT|pc|h6|mc|10|pg||
qx|c18|st||md|4SAK97H43DQJ762C65,SJ543HT7DKT3CK732,S2HAQJ86DA9CAQJ98,SQT86HK952D854CT4|sv|n|nt|eamongall: My good friends here McGann and Brown |pg||
nt|eamongall: they owe me several pints of guiness |pg||
nt|bridge_one: 4@S made in other room ecause duck the A in @D|pg||
nt|jbgood: 4@s and coffee time|pg||
nt|davpro: I've got coffee all the time :)|pg||
nt|roswolf: yes another hidden advantage of bidding vul games:)|pg||
mb|p|nt|MolvaM: yes. but could be more difficult to stay in the top 27 there|pg||
nt|jfaria:  dont think Forrester could win |pg||
mb|p|nt|roswolf: this could be nip and tuck|pg||
mb|p|nt|szalay:  btw I am quite glad to (present) outcome of this match. I like this guys (and secret, pls) I am not big fan of Fantunes|pg||
nt|athene: well, it's not over yet...|pg||
nt|roswolf: our lips are sealed:)|pg||
mb|1H|nt|runnerup: nothing should happen here but ..|pg||
nt|athene: not by any means automatic to wander into 3nt with these NS cards|pg||
nt|szalay:  wd be anyone pass with East hand?|pg||
mb|p|nt|roswolf: indeed|pg||
nt|roswolf: i hate the overcall|pg||
nt|roswolf: yes|pg||
mb|1S|nt|Walddk2: Welcome to Barbara Apel|pg||
nt|barbyh: hi all, Barbara from Las vegas|pg||
mb|p|nt|szalay:  may be I am alone, but dont feel any positive to overcall with hand, especially with passed pd|pg||
mb|3C|nt|eamongall: a decent score for NS for 1NT up 2 on board 7 |pg||
nt|bagman: The spade lead was unlucky for NS|pg||
nt|athene: south might try 3@D now|pg||
mb|p|nt|eamongall: well there is a generous lead from McGann he won;t be happy |pg||
nt|hawe45:  A fast - flat - board|pg||
mb|3N|nt|bridge_one: i bet 10 tricks here :)|pg||
nt|roswolf: precisely|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: i would overcall for sure|pg||
nt|roswolf: after 3@D i think north has an automatic 3nt|pg||
mb|p|nt|szalay:  I think 1N is a tipical underbid by underdogs vs, world classes|pg||
nt|szalay:  at least 2N is sufficient|pg||
nt|athene: well, the problem is you know you don't want to play in 2nt|pg||
nt|roswolf: west has seen his pard's overcalls before|pg||
mb|p|nt|danilo1: misfit hand ... so 3NT |pg||
nt|jfaria:  3nt, what eles?|pg||
pc|s4|nt|athene: you want to play in 1nt or 3nt or a diamond partscore|pg||
nt|jfaria:  on the other hand 5@h had a chance|pg||
nt|danilo1: good conclusion by West that declarer has probably only 4-card @S (otherwise could bid 3@D) ... |pg||
pc|s2|nt|barbyh: could have heldthem to 1 less|pg||
nt|bagman: There is a theory, which states that against blind 3NT one should lead from the worse 4-carder from a 4432|pg||
nt|barbyh: against matchpoints or imps?|pg||
nt|bagman: both|pg||
nt|bagman: I don't subscribe to that theory but I was told that it was backed up by a huge simulation|pg||
nt|eamongall: The good news for McGann on the last board is some 3NT+2 company is appearing ...|pg||
nt|bagman: who knows; at least it makes leading easy|pg||
nt|barbyh: true, |pg||
nt|barbyh: well in this case lead from a club and you holdthemto 4|pg||
nt|bagman: The diamond lead (suggested by the theory) holds the contract to 4, too|pg||
nt|MolvaM: after tomorrow evening the knockouts will start with 32 teams|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg||
nt|glen: this @S lead reduces communication to S hand to nothing|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c2|nt|jfaria:  played by N :)|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c4|pg||
nt|danilo1: ... unfortunately for him ...9 and 7 behind 1086|pg||
nt|jfaria:  Forrester may not see 9 tricks, but L/V have more dificulties in finding 5..|pg||
nt|danilo1: since @DK good, and @C10 coming will probably make ... sooner or later, opps must give him a trick|pg||
pc|cA|pc|cT|nt|szalay:  2D is an option as well, but u have stopper and kinda D suit, when u dont need length help|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c3|pg||
nt|davpro: the @d losers vanished|pg||
nt|jbgood: not easy to find the @d lead|pg||
nt|davpro: nope|pg||
pc|c8|pc|d4|nt|athene: south just has a harder problem over 1@S than if east passed|pg||
nt|jfaria:  I mean Gold thx|pg||
pc|d2|pc|cK|pg||
nt|glen: will W exit with a @C?|pg||
pc|s5|nt|glen: (no)|pg||
pc|h6|nt|roswolf: another poor contract but more reasonable to bid|pg||
nt|athene: that's one reason for overcalling|pg||
nt|szalay:  if he has sthg extras, lets play 3N. 2D and 3D isnt bad, but very likely he will decline without AofD|pg||
pc|sT|nt|danilo1: exiting with @C would not help ... since declarer may play @HA and @HQ .. therefore Alfredo (hoping in @HK at pd) tried to search 2 @S tricks |pg||
pc|s7|pg||
nt|danilo1: not taking 10 looks like error |pg||
pc|d5|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|jfaria:  home|pg||
nt|danilo1: .. or not ... East must play third @S - or @D@HQ now safe|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h3|pc|h7|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|o19|st||md|1SK643HJT9DAJ3CJ84,SAQJT85HA642DKCT7,S72H53DT95CAK9652,S9HKQ87DQ87642CQ3|sv|e|nt|rcerreto: another push|pg||
mb|1N|mb|d!|nt|rcerreto: mini NT: 9-11|pg||
nt|marlowepi: rehi. internet connection in poznan systematically kicks off every 15 minutes or so, very annoying and intrusive, sorry|pg||
nt|vugraphpld: N alerted 1 nt|pg||
mb|3C|mb|4H|nt|dburn: he deosn't have to do that, but it's not a bad idea|pg||
nt|rcerreto: a possible swing coming?|pg||
mb|p|nt|stc: I think first 27 qualify for the KO matches, the 2 teams are currently 42,43 :(|pg||
nt|yo_yo: did the X show @H?|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|yo_yo: must do for Allfrey to bid it out of the blue|pg||
nt|dburn: one presumes that it did - either that or Allfrey has shown remarkable intuition|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c7|pc|cK|pc|c3|pg||
pc|cA|pc|cQ|pc|c8|pc|cT|pg||
nt|rcerreto: I thought it should have been harder to find the 4-4 @h fit|pg||
pc|dT|pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|dK|pg||
pc|s6|nt|rcerreto: they loughed at me|pg||
nt|yo_yo: allfrey will now place the rest of the honours north having shown the top @C|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s2|pc|s9|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|d4|pc|s3|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|d5|pc|h7|pc|s4|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d3|pc|s5|pc|d9|pg||
pc|d7|pc|dJ|pc|h2|pc|h3|pg||
pc|c2|pc|d6|pc|cJ|pc|h4|pg||
pc|s8|pc|c5|pc|h8|pc|sK|pg||
nt|yo_yo: 6@H would have been enough|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h9|pc|h6|pc|h5|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|hT|pc|hA|pc|c6|pg||
pc|sT|pc|c9|pc|d8|pc|hJ|pg||
nt|dburn: well, there was a swing anyway - declarer lost the plot to some extent there|pg||
pg||
qx|c19|st||md|1SK643HJT9DAJ3CJ84,SAQJT85HA642DKCT7,S72H53DT95CAK9652,S9HKQ87DQ87642CQ3|sv|e|nt|bagman: I probably would have lead the @S, too :( (maybe there's something in that theory, after all)|pg||
nt|hawe45:  West must play this 3 NT|pg||
nt|roswolf: more distributional hands|pg||
nt|athene: well 2@D-3@D does show a decent hand so if he has some extra hcp he will bid it anyway|pg||
nt|szalay:  suddent death is coming|pg||
mb|p|nt|runnerup: 3nt in wrong hand so chance for Zaleski|pg||
nt|hawe45:  South led a small @C, but East had to go wrong|pg||
mb|1S|nt|bridge_one: no|pg||
nt|MolvaM: we just love deals with a void rite? :)|pg||
nt|roswolf: :)|pg||
nt|pelu: 11 tricks in @s|pg||
nt|roswolf: hmm 3nt is unlucky to fail here|pg||
nt|szalay:  but it rather looks hungarian death:(|pg||
mb|2C|nt|bridge_one: 1@D 3@D easy ...|pg||
nt|runnerup: 3nt opening not everyones choice|pg||
mb|d|nt|glen: modern bidding: three value showing bids to you, and you have 10 high card points|pg||
mb|2N!|nt|MolvaM: 2nt is?|pg||
nt|danilo1: :)|pg||
nt|jfaria:  how many @h will L/V play?|pg||
nt|glen: established partnerships often use transfers over the negative double|pg||
mb|d|mb|p|mb|3D|nt|runnerup: winnig some ipms strange way|pg||
nt|hawe45:  To miss this 5 @D - played by West - will bring Zaleski  8 IMP|pg||
nt|jbgood: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/orrrunda7.html enables you to follow the exciting fights for 3rd place in some of the groups|pg||
mb|p|nt|roswolf: this looks boring with no heart barrage|pg||
nt|MolvaM: spade fit and?|pg||
nt|pelu: 5@H could cost 500|pg||
nt|MolvaM: 5@h could just escape for down 3 I guess|pg||
mb|3H|mb|p|nt|bagman: W has so much extras that he can afford to bid the game in NT instead of looking for the spades|pg||
nt|jbgood: 3 teams go to the A Swiss - and the others to B|pg||
mb|4H|nt|davpro: 9 tricks in NT here|pg||
mb|p|nt|szalay:  what wd u say as west? i feel it normal 1n|pg||
mb|p|nt|szalay:  good lead:)|pg||
nt|athene: this match does illustrate the "game every hand" philosophy - most deals at least one pair is in game, and when one side bid game and the other didn't, the aggressive action ...|pg||
nt|athene: usually gained|pg||
nt|roswolf: @CQ followed by a diamond switch is possible|pg||
mb|p|nt|bridge_one: 4@D great choice by Versace|pg||
nt|roswolf: 2@S seemed to be too optimistic with no fit for pard's suit|pg||
nt|roswolf: ot @CJ:)|pg||
nt|jfaria:  $1h is a real chalenge :)|pg||
pc|cA|nt|athene: 31 imps so far for people in game when other room played partscore|pg||
nt|szalay:  btw support X instead of 2C is queationable with so nice C suit|pg||
nt|athene: many play support double is obligatory|pg||
nt|roswolf: I CERTAINLY DO|pg||
nt|athene: even with xxx and AKQJ10xx :)|pg||
nt|szalay:  we opened cause we have so nice C suit|pg||
nt|szalay:  I said only: questionable, may be I wd XX myself|pg||
nt|athene: nunes knows if he wins this he doesn't have much chance|pg||
nt|jfaria:  4@h I mean|pg||
nt|danilo1: why 2NT alerted ... it just shows what he has :) ... 3-card @C support, some Hcp, BAL hand - and @S stop|pg||
pc|c3|nt|runnerup: perhaps even he didnt expect mojor Q eens to table |pg||
nt|roswolf: really|pg||
pc|c8|nt|athene: but ducking could lead to even more down of course|pg||
pc|c7|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cQ|pc|c4|nt|roswolf: really!?|pg||
nt|szalay:  btw its the correct line if @Cs are 5-3|pg||
nt|athene: he has 8 tricks so he wants north to cash out his clubs - hoping he just loses four tricks and then has a spade-diamond squeeze|pg||
pc|cT|pg||
nt|jbgood: i guess they play 2@c as game force - but not sure. if so, E may have regretted his pass, 3 nt always on|pg||
nt|MolvaM: 4s showed fit+limit hand|pg||
nt|roswolf: this looks -1|pg||
nt|glen: if you just alert only natural, you cut down on the number of alerts|pg||
nt|jfaria:  Lauria must decide between @d and @s |pg||
nt|glen: @d ace now, and with nothing better to do, then the @C J?|pg||
nt|jfaria:  Versace I mean |pg||
pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|h9|nt|szalay:  and try for D-S squeeze|pg||
pc|h2|pg||
nt|roswolf: maybe -2|pg||
nt|roswolf: obviously west thought 1@C was short ish|pg||
pc|d2|nt|bagman: Even with the bad club break, declarer has 11 tricks losing only the two aces and scoring well in the pairs|pg||
pc|d3|pc|dK|nt|bagman: sry, the spades break also badly.... |pg||
pc|d5|pg||
nt|jbgood: perhaps E just took a shot with his meager values|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h3|nt|bagman: so declarer has only the same 10 tricks as those who play in spades|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|hT|pg||
pc|h7|pc|hJ|pc|hA|nt|danilo1: if @DA cashed (far away from obvious), than depends how serious Versace will take 2NT bid by South|pg||
pc|c5|pg||
pc|sA|nt|glen: in another match, the @D was ducked as well|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s9|pc|s3|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|roswolf: dummy is really le mort now|pg||
pc|s7|pc|d4|mc|10|nt|bagman: still scoring well, though|pg||
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qx|o20|st||md|2S92HQJ53D987CQ842,SKQJTHT876DKJ2CT5,S864HA94DAQTCJ763,SA753HK2D6543CAK9|sv|b|nt|yo_yo: did allfrey miss the discard i wonder|pg||
nt|yo_yo: dont send a boy to do a man's job, 2@H - who said that|pg||
mb|1C!|mb|p|mb|1H!|mb|p|nt|yo_yo: (sounds a bit sexist)|pg||
mb|2S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s4|pc|s3|nt|rcerreto: 4 losers, if nothing happens|pg||
pc|s9|pc|sK|pg||
pc|h8|pc|h4|pc|hK|pc|h3|pg||
nt|yo_yo: a kibb is wondering how allrey explains that to Forrester, poor allfrey!|pg||
nt|vugraphpld: next round about 14:30|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h5|nt|stc: some endplay if @d are not played early ?|pg||
pc|h7|pc|h9|pg||
pc|s6|nt|stc: specs say NO|pg||
nt|dburn: doesn't look like it|pg||
nt|marlowepi: surprised S didnt split to play D|pg||
nt|rcerreto: to eliminate @c you have no more trumps in hand|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|sT|pg||
pc|d3|nt|stc: of course not, not enough trumps to eliminate @c and endplay|pg||
pc|d9|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pg||
pc|s8|pc|s5|pc|c2|nt|rcerreto: and you still have a @h to place|pg||
pc|sJ|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|c4|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d7|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg||
pc|dT|pc|d5|pc|d8|pc|d2|pg||
mc|9|nt|rcerreto: here it goes|pg||
nt|stc: it was a normal game with bad luck in @d|pg||
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qx|c20|st||md|2S92HQJ53D987CQ842,SKQJTHT876DKJ2CT5,S864HA94DAQTCJ763,SA753HK2D6543CAK9|sv|b|nt|jbgood: last one in the round robin |pg||
nt|jbgood: and cards lie badly for EW|pg||
nt|roswolf: We are now on the last board of the set. Thanks to our operator - Great Job! Our appreciation to all the organisers for ensuring that this fine event is brought to BBO vugraph. ...|pg||
nt|roswolf: Thanks too to my very learned fellow commentators Murat and Peter  for their company and perceptive comments and to our specs whose contributions keep us on our toes.|pg||
nt|MolvaM: ok last board of the match|pg||
nt|MolvaM: next match to start in 29 minutes|pg||
nt|roswolf: We are now on the last board of the set. Thanks to our operator - Great Job! Our appreciation to all the organisers for ensuring that this fine event is brought to BBO vugraph. ...|pg||
nt|roswolf: Thanks too to my very learned fellow commentators Murat and John for their company and perceptive comments and to our specs whose contributions keep us on our toes.|pg||
nt|szalay:  btw D-S squeeze is very unlikely|pg||
nt|roswolf: sorry dont agree|pg||
nt|szalay:  to be honest|pg||
nt|jfaria:  ducking @d helped, no need to choose between @s and @d|pg||
nt|danilo1: to note excellent play by Forrester, @D2 and not 10 ... Gold should not duck|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|nt|roswolf: We are now on the last board of the set. Thanks to our operator, Ilya - Great Job! Our appreciation to all the organisers for ensuring that this fine event is brought to BBO ...|pg||
nt|roswolf: vugraph. Thanks too to my very learned fellow commentators Gyorgy and Bill for their company and perceptive comments and to our specs whose contributions keep us on our toes.|pg||
mb|p|mb|1H|nt|MolvaM: now 28 :)|pg||
mb|p|mb|1S|nt|bagman: EW can make here 10 tricks in NT on a club lead 11 tricks otherwise|pg||
nt|MolvaM: 5 more matches will be played tomorrow and then 27 teams from group A, and 5 teams from group B will proceed to the knockouts|pg||
nt|athene: Fantunes are sort of forced to play weak notrump as a consequence of the rest of their system|pg||
mb|p|nt|szalay:  if u know your pd is so weak for weak NT u wd pass|pg||
nt|szalay:  some players have this "magic talent", others not|pg||
nt|roswolf: if they reach 4@S now north will have all the info he needs to axe|pg||
mb|3S|nt|davpro: What have I missed in the bidding?|pg||
nt|MolvaM: tomorrow we start at 10.00 hrs CET|pg||
nt|roswolf: these 2 teams will surely be in contention|pg||
mb|p|nt|szalay:  this partnership has this "talent"|pg||
nt|roswolf: east has heard the warning bell|pg||
nt|athene: east simply discounted his @CQ on the bidding, so he is left with a nine-count|pg||
nt|roswolf: i think that was fine judgment|pg||
nt|szalay:  as I watched many times: they r frequently agressive when pd has good hand, and passive when has bad one...we call it: "magican"|pg||
mb|4S|nt|roswolf: :)|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|pelu: only 8 trick|pg||
nt|MolvaM: good lead|pg||
mb|p|nt|bagman: E bid 3NT to show the spade stopper in case W was interested in that; If W had a huge @H raise, he would not pass 3NT|pg||
nt|davpro: W probably showed a M?|pg||
nt|davpro: 2@d balanced hand , 3@c a major, 4@d ask major  (according to a kib)|pg||
nt|jbgood: probably|pg||
nt|roswolf: a little optimistic but a fair shot|pg||
nt|glen: 3@S asks are you italian, 4@S=yes|pg||
pc|c2|nt|glen: this allows non-italians to play the partscore|pg||
pc|cT|nt|pelu: @S-lead would have given the 9. trick|pg||
nt|MolvaM: normal lead actually but sometimes people dont like to lead from 5 small minors and choose a major|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|cA|pg||
nt|jbgood: the curse of underleading aces|pg||
nt|davpro: :)|pg||
nt|jbgood: but still down|pg||
nt|glen: unfriendly @Ds here|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|sJ|nt|pelu: but the good old rule 4. best in yout longest suit :) - and here East has indicatet 4 card @s|pg||
nt|MolvaM: right peter :)|pg||
nt|glen: will doom this|pg||
pc|s4|pg||
pc|h6|pc|hA|nt|MolvaM: specs tell me board 17 was doubled in other room|pg||
pc|h2|nt|bagman: Declarer is going to run the diamonds hoping for too many heart discards|pg||
pc|h3|pg||
nt|MolvaM: if thats the case 5 imps more could go to monaco-Z |pg||
nt|roswolf: restart in 15-20mins|pg||
pc|s6|nt|runnerup: killing lead |pg||
nt|MolvaM: well we shall see|pg||
nt|roswolf: hmm the juniors have been brushed aside|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s9|nt|danilo1: obvious @S |pg||
pc|sK|pg||
nt|davpro: Does S know who has got the @d 4?|pg||
pc|h8|nt|MolvaM: spade switch was needed|pg||
pc|h4|nt|roswolf: scheduled re-start in 22mins approx from now|pg||
nt|pelu: no X when I see the bidding in OR (direct on the tabler)|pg||
nt|athene: heart to the ace and diamond up looks plausible|pg||
pc|hK|nt|roswolf: for results http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswrunda3.html|pg||
pc|h5|pg||
nt|athene: the idea is you just want to make sure of two heart tricks and if the finesses loses you might not even get two|pg||
nt|szalay:  btw first 27 from swiss A, first 5 from swiss B go to KO|pg||
nt|athene: but losing finesse doesn't matter here anyway with the nice breaks in the red suits|pg||
nt|szalay:  and first 8 has the right to choose opps from 9-32|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d8|nt|bagman: There's no legitimate squeeze but it costs nothing to try|pg||
nt|MolvaM: now the defensive spade trick vanishes|pg||
nt|roswolf: yes which was why it was a fair shot|pg||
pc|dK|pc|dA|pg||
nt|davpro: I need some sleep. Thx all kibs for pointing out my stupidity|pg||
nt|dburn: I doubt he cares all that much about the four, given what happened to the ace|pg||
nt|szalay:  the ranking order 9-32 is decided by NOT the result, but WBF/EBL masterpoints|pg||
nt|jfaria:  kind of 2 out of 3 ok, not a bad game vuln|pg||
pc|s8|pc|sA|nt|pelu: nice discarding by NS|pg||
nt|roswolf: yes careful|pg||
pc|c4|pc|sT|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d7|nt|jbgood: bye all|pg||
nt|davpro: bye all. I enjoyed as always.|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pg||
nt|danilo1: this is last hand ... Thanks Joao, Glen ... esp. our operator, specs and players|pg||
pc|h9|pc|s7|pc|hJ|nt|jfaria:  thx all|pg||
pc|h7|pg||
nt|roswolf: the last rites|pg||
nt|pelu: same start in OR - the first 5 tricks|pg||
nt|roswolf: bye for now see you back in 20mins|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d9|nt|bagman: N knew that S has the @CK as E had passed|pg||
pc|d2|pc|dT|pg||
nt|szalay:  this is the (one of) reason why u find players in rosters who dont play|pg||
pc|c3|pc|cK|pc|c8|pc|c5|pg||
pc|d6|pc|cQ|pc|hT|pc|c6|pg||
pc|c9|pc|hQ|nt|bagman: Looks like we are waiting for two tables to finish the play; 3NT +2 gives 66.5% to EW right now|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|c7|pg||
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