vg|A EC 2011 Open Teams Swiss _,4_7,I,11,20,Israel,0,Lavazza,0|
rs|4SW+2,4SE+1,4HS-2,4HS-1,4HN=,4HN=,4SE+2,6HNx-3,5HS=,6HS-1,1SN+2,2SN+1,5SN-1,5SN=,3NS+2,3NS=,4HW=,4SW-1,4SE-1,4SE-1|
pn|Herbst I,Duboin,Herbst O,Sementa,Madala,Ginossar,Bocchi,Pachtman|pg||
qx|o11|st||md|1ST32HAJ53DT76CT95,SJ874HQ8DKCAKJ873,SQH9762DAQJ953CQ2,SAK965HKT4D842C64|sv|o|mb|p|nt|oosb: missed a pass maybe|pg||
nt|Walddk2: yes|pg||
nt|pelu: undo Joanna|pg||
mb|1C|mb|3D|mb|d|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pg||
nt|pelu: 12 tricks now|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg||
nt|Walddk2: We will get EW player names up soon, please be patient|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Joanna is busy|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c5|pc|cA|pc|c2|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cQ|pc|c6|pc|c9|pg||
mc|12|pg||
qx|c11|st||md|1ST32HAJ53DT76CT95,SJ874HQ8DKCAKJ873,SQH9762DAQJ953CQ2,SAK965HKT4D842C64|sv|o|nt|blum1956: hi all|pg||
mb|p|mb|1C|nt|hedyg: good morning and welcome back to the 5th European Open Championships, Poznan, Poland. A Swiss teams ,Round 4/7, 10 boards / round|pg||
mb|3D|mb|d|nt|hedyg: our operator is Tadeusz|pg||
nt|roswolf: hi all|pg||
nt|hedyg: welcome Geoffrey Wolfarth |pg||
mb|4D|mb|d|mb|p|nt|roswolf: :)gm hedy|pg||
mb|4S|nt|ntmon: hi to everyone|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|blum1956: 5 nj 6 tricks probably|pg||
nt|roswolf: normal contract|pg||
pc|d6|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d2|pg||
nt|ntmon: Open teams, 3rd round of Swiss just started|pg||
nt|athene: hi good morning everyone|pg||
pc|h7|pc|h4|nt|hedyg: BBO mobile is still not working so pls use: http://www.bbotv.com/vugraph/|pg||
nt|hedyg: hi Bill|pg||
nt|roswolf: hi bill|pg||
pc|hA|nt|blum1956: 5 to 6|pg||
pc|h8|pg||
pc|d7|pc|s4|pc|d3|pc|d4|pg||
nt|jcomyn: no problem with this but brave bid|pg||
pc|s7|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|s2|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s3|pc|s8|pc|d5|pg||
pc|cA|nt|hedyg: running scores: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswleaderb.html|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|c5|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cQ|pc|c6|pc|c9|pg||
mc|11|nt|hedyg: i will get the CCs|pg||
pg||
qx|o12|st||md|2SJ92HJT92DKT7CQT5,SAKT73HKQ85DJ94C2,S8HA74DAQ2CAK9843,SQ654H63D8653CJ76|sv|n|nt|Walddk2: Sementa  and all is well|pg||
mb|1S|nt|oosb: super star line up at both tables|pg||
mb|d|nt|oosb: just a 2@C or dbl?|pg||
mb|3S|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|oosb: 5@C had better chances|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s8|pc|s4|pc|s2|pg||
pc|sK|nt|pelu: that why I dont X @S with 3 card @h|pg||
pc|h4|pc|s5|pc|s9|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|d4|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h3|pg||
pc|h7|pc|h6|pc|hT|pc|hQ|pg||
pc|s7|pc|c3|pc|sQ|pc|sJ|pg||
pc|s6|pc|h2|pc|s3|pc|c4|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d9|pc|dQ|pc|d5|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|dT|pc|dJ|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c5|pc|c2|pg||
pc|c8|pc|c7|pc|cQ|nt|oosb: Preempt does its job|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|c12|st||md|2SJ92HJT92DKT7CQT5,SAKT73HKQ85DJ94C2,S8HA74DAQ2CAK9843,SQ654H63D8653CJ76|sv|n|mb|1S|nt|hedyg: EW CC: http://www.ecatsbridge.org/documents/files/ConventionCards/2010Ostend-european/OpenTeams/israel/ronpa-gino.pdf|pg||
mb|d|nt|ntmon: @S partscore to EW|pg||
mb|3S|nt|hedyg: NS CC: http://www.ecatsbridge.org/documents/files/ConventionCards/2010Ostend-european/OpenTeams/italy/bocchi-madala.pdf|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|woozle: 6NT has chances with a spade lead - four spades, three hearts, three diamonds, one club and a squeeze on south|pg||
nt|jcomyn: but ns might get busy in h|pg||
mb|d|nt|ntmon: but higher suit probably wins|pg||
mb|p|nt|woozle: Fiona Brown is very cautious with her barren 11|pg||
nt|roswolf: aggressive reopening by north|pg||
mb|4H|mb|p|nt|jcomyn: not yet|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|ntmon: .. now :)|pg||
pc|sA|nt|roswolf: this may not play too well|pg||
pc|s8|pc|s5|pc|s9|pg||
nt|woozle: four rounds of spades now will put South through the wringer|pg||
nt|athene: bocchi knows his side has a fit - if opps have a 9-card fit you are guaranteed an 8-card fit at least - but that doesn't mean you will find it|pg||
nt|hedyg: some might bid 4@S with the W hand once he knows about 4 card support since he has no valid defense vs 4@H except the trumps|pg||
nt|roswolf: this can be defeated|pg||
pc|sK|pc|h4|nt|blum1956: A player of the team which is in best 8 will hardly lead a spade against 6NT|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sJ|pg||
nt|jcomyn: well who does win now|pg||
nt|athene: west's defensive plan is very easy|pg||
nt|athene: just play spades and spades and spades|pg||
nt|roswolf: indeed|pg||
nt|athene: and get your three trump tricks|pg||
nt|hedyg: Ilan Herbst went 2 off in OR|pg||
nt|athene: maybe south would be better-off to double 3@S rather than bid 4@H, if he feels he has to do something|pg||
nt|roswolf: i think only -1 is likely here|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d6|pc|dK|pc|d4|pg||
nt|athene: 4@H should be a five-card suit in my opinion|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|hQ|nt|hedyg: he could not do that after his pd doubled 3@S, Bill|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h3|pg||
nt|ntmon: it's probable that EW will come to 4@S on many tables either on its own or pushed, but not doubled |pg||
nt|athene: no i mean in the other room|pg||
nt|hedyg: but that would be for minors, denying 4@Hs|pg||
nt|hedyg: it is rare that pd, when he doubles 1@s, does not have 4 cards in @H|pg||
nt|roswolf: not so rare these days for the top players|pg||
nt|hedyg: we all assume pd has 4 OM when he doubles a M opening|pg||
nt|roswolf: that is true enough|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d3|pc|d7|nt|woozle: probably not, but leading from a nothing suit isn't completely safe either - can easily pick up (say) partner's queen|pg||
pc|dJ|pg||
nt|jcomyn: levazza mean business by the looks of things|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|dT|pc|d9|pg||
nt|hedyg: :)|pg||
nt|athene: i think doubling just says you don't have the offensive potential in hearts to commit to bidding 4 over 3|pg||
nt|roswolf: this is not good for south|pg||
nt|roswolf: fair comment bill|pg||
nt|athene: so you  can still have auctions like 1@S X 3@S X pass 4minor pass 4@H|pg||
nt|athene: saying ok, we might want to play here, but we don't have to|pg||
nt|roswolf: running scores: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswleaderb.html|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c7|pc|cT|pc|c2|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|h7|nt|Walddk6: Welcome to Martin Carroll|pg||
pc|s6|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c6|pc|cQ|nt|mcarroll: Hi all|pg||
nt|athene: nice line, trying to make|pg||
pc|h5|pg||
pc|s7|nt|athene: playing for @CJx onside|pg||
pc|c8|pc|sQ|pc|h2|pg||
pc|h9|pc|hK|pc|c9|nt|athene: and even trump break|pg||
pc|h6|pg||
pc|sT|pc|cK|pc|cJ|pc|hT|pg||
pc|c5|pc|h8|nt|roswolf: good try|pg||
pc|cA|pc|d8|pg||
pg||
qx|o13|st||md|3S752HKQT75DAJ4CK5,SAJT4HJ643DK972CQ,SK9HA98DQ83CAT642,SQ863H2DT65CJ9873|sv|b|mb|1C|mb|p|nt|pelu: but could S X also - show values and no good bid?|pg||
mb|1D|mb|p|nt|oosb: Wouldve been more versatile|pg||
mb|1H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|oosb: But perhaps thought it very likely pd has 4@H|pg||
mb|p|nt|oosb: 1@d transfer|pg||
nt|vugraphpl5: ruuning score http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswleaderb.html|pg||
nt|pelu: 1D = @h, 1@H = 3 card - balanced hand|pg||
pc|c3|nt|oosb: This is tricky|pg||
nt|oosb: with bad @C and @H break|pg||
nt|vugraphpl5: you can also check women teams http://b.poznan2011.pl/wt/wrrleaderb.html|pg||
nt|vugraphpl5: and senior teams http://b.poznan2011.pl/st/srrleaderb.html|pg||
nt|pelu: DD : @CK and @s sh make|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cQ|pc|c4|pg||
nt|oosb: probably will end up playing @S up|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|sK|pc|s3|pg||
nt|oosb: another @S ?|pg||
pc|h8|pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|h3|pg||
pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|s9|pc|s6|pg||
nt|oosb: this is better|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Welcome to Inon Liran|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|h9|pc|s8|pc|s7|pg||
nt|inonli: Hi Roland all|pg||
pc|hA|nt|oosb: Hi|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|h5|pc|h4|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|dJ|nt|oosb: this is safe too as it keeps west on lead|pg||
pc|dK|pg||
nt|pelu: careful play|pg||
mc|10|nt|oosb: well played|pg||
pg||
qx|c13|st||md|3S752HKQT75DAJ4CK5,SAJT4HJ643DK972CQ,SK9HA98DQ83CAT642,SQ863H2DT65CJ9873|sv|b|mb|1C|mb|p|nt|woozle: Brown has an exciting hand but best defense can beat 4S|pg||
mb|1D|an|.|nt|mcarroll: This will certainly see Major suit action|pg||
mb|p|nt|ntmon: 4@S now by NS|pg||
nt|jcomyn: will they get to 6|pg||
nt|roswolf: 4@H is normal here|pg||
mb|1N|an| |nt|roswolf: anothr transfer|pg||
mb|p|mb|3N|nt|woozle: South's 2D looks competitively inadequate, not that it matters much here|pg||
nt|jcomyn: tempting|pg||
mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|nt|blum1956: Probably it is a @h raise|pg||
nt|roswolf: may be showing 3@H support - the transfer shows 4+ in hearts|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|s3|nt|woozle: No doubt, and a toothpick is a weapon but it's not really adequate for a duel|pg||
pc|s2|nt|jcomyn: but resisted|pg||
nt|roswolf: i am told 1@c-1@d-1@h=3@h unball,1nt=2/3@hball|pg||
pc|sA|nt|ntmon: S would need @D8 instead of @D7|pg||
pc|s9|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|s6|nt|athene: this is a funny auction then - how did Bocchi know his partner had five hearts>|pg||
pc|s5|pg||
nt|athene: ?|pg||
pc|hA|nt|mcarroll: making now|pg||
nt|woozle: Brown had two options - lead the club early before the opponents know you have eight trumps, or run trumps and try to put on pressure|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h5|nt|ntmon: or @D lead|pg||
pc|h3|pg||
nt|athene: maybe he didn't|pg||
pc|h9|nt|blum1956: Maybe it were better to play the @cQ before trumps|pg||
pc|s8|nt|mcarroll: True enough|pg||
pc|hK|nt|woozle: Count signals should sort out the club suit for the defense when North has the ace|pg||
pc|h4|pg||
pc|s7|nt|roswolf: 3nt shows 5 hearts i am told :)|pg||
pc|sT|pc|h8|pc|sQ|pg||
nt|athene: yes i know 1@D shows hearts but only 4+ hearts|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|o14|st||md|4SJ63HQJ765D3CKT76,ST9H32DT9872CA983,S82HAKT98D654CQ42,SAKQ754H4DAKQJCJ5|sv|o|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|oosb: monster hand with Sementa|pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2N!|mb|p|nt|oosb: no entry to dummy|pg||
nt|oosb: else couldve made 6@S, as it is, inital @C lead or @H and then @C will cut off the 5th @D|pg||
nt|pelu: 6@D|pg||
nt|oosb: 6@D though yes|pg||
nt|oosb: cant cut that off :)|pg||
mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|d6|nt|oosb: Think any pairs will reach 6@D?|pg||
pc|dA|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s9|pc|s8|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s6|pc|sT|pc|s2|pg||
nt|inonli: i think other room will open east strong|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|sJ|mc|12|pg||
qx|c14|st||md|4SJ63HQJ765D3CKT76,ST9H32DT9872CA983,S82HAKT98D654CQ42,SAKQ754H4DAKQJCJ5|sv|o|nt|hedyg: i am afraid when the CC was made last year they were not yet playing transfers over the 1@c opening, thus no explanations|pg||
nt|roswolf: what 3@H would mean is a mystery:)|pg||
nt|athene: ok so with a 3nt bid and only four hearts, south would have done something else|pg||
nt|athene: garozzo responds 2@C on strong balanced hands with a 4-card major|pg||
nt|athene: the idea is to conceal the major if you don't have a 4-4 fit|pg||
nt|athene: so if you respond showing a major then bid 3nt you promise 5|pg||
nt|roswolf: another kibber suggests they may use 3@S rebid by south as puppet to 3nt|pg||
nt|athene: looks as though NS are doing the same sort of thing|pg||
mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2D|nt|jcomyn: 3C|pg||
nt|ntmon: 2@S alerted but looks like sign-off|pg||
mb|2H|mb|2S|nt|jcomyn: boy what happens now|pg||
nt|ntmon: when opps bid 2 suits and we look for 3NT, we bid the suit we have stopped |pg||
nt|hedyg: 2@d= 4+|pg||
nt|roswolf: a difficult salm to reach 6@D seems clearly superior|pg||
nt|athene: NS can bid lots of hearts but that will only encourage east to bid a slam|pg||
mb|6H|nt|ntmon: but i agree .. NS on the way to problems|pg||
mb|d|nt|woozle: At the other table, North switched to a diamond at trick two, but chose the lowest...South, duly misled, led one back|pg||
nt|athene: 6@S will make if the defence foolishly try to cash @HAK, but not if they switch to a club to take out the entry to the diamonds, of course|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|jcomyn: like well into the soup|pg||
nt|jcomyn: I'm still bidding 3c on the s hand before you have your blood spilled|pg||
mb|p|nt|ntmon: the only problem with 3@C is that should not be enough |pg||
nt|ntmon: at least they're on the same wavelenght|pg||
nt|roswolf: advance sac taken|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|d6|pg||
nt|jcomyn: much of a muchness|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s3|nt|blum1956: clear pass for North on 2@s from my point of view, but Pszczola is a world champion which I am not|pg||
pc|sT|pc|s2|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s6|pc|s9|pc|s8|pg||
nt|roswolf: seems to gain a few imps|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|mcarroll: they did well to stop below game, but even this is probably not going to make|pg||
pc|c6|nt|hedyg: seems Madala decided they would take no @H tricks if EW played|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c2|pg||
nt|ntmon: reaching 4@H X would not be problem on tables, where W passes and E opens with @S preeemt|pg||
nt|roswolf: well that may mean an imp to the israelis|pg||
mc|9|nt|hedyg: they took all their tricks|pg||
pg||
qx|o15|st||md|1S8HAJT76DJ5CAK852,SQ975H53DK3CQT763,SAK62HKQ942D642C4,SJT43H8DAQT987CJ9|sv|n|nt|inonli: and then they can roll maybe to the right slam|pg||
mb|1H|nt|pelu: strong @c-system , but at obe table I saw 1@C and then 1@H by S - pas and 3@H by N - and @D-suit gone|pg||
mb|p|mb|2N|mb|3D|nt|inonli: yes @h interfer can prevent from finding the fit|pg||
mb|p|nt|Walddk2: No one found 6@D yet, not even Versace-Lauria|pg||
mb|p|nt|Walddk2: 4@S or 5@HX are normal contracts around the room|pg||
nt|inonli: it is recommended to enter the action when it goes 1M 2NT as did by east|pg||
mb|4C!|mb|p|nt|inonli: it destroyed NS relays|pg||
mb|4D!|mb|p|nt|inonli: 4@d here is last trian|pg||
mb|4S!|mb|p|nt|inonli: for slam doesnt show always control|pg||
mb|5C|mb|p|nt|oosb: better have system very clear|pg||
nt|oosb: so its not mistaken for a cue bid|pg||
nt|inonli: yes this can cause missunderstanding if N takes south to be guarded in @d|pg||
mb|5H|nt|pelu: spec if 2NT is invit+ - then often probelms for 2Nt bidder - I absolut prefer 2NT as GF|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|inonli: good stop|pg||
nt|oosb: did well to stop|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|dJ|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|dQ|pc|d5|pg||
pc|dT|pc|hJ|pc|c3|pc|d6|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|c15|st||md|1S8HAJT76DJ5CAK852,SQ975H53DK3CQT763,SAK62HKQ942D642C4,SJT43H8DAQT987CJ9|sv|n|nt|woozle: Maybe 4S here for EW, but there's work involved|pg||
nt|ntmon: the wrong result for Monacco atributed to their EW pair in OR|pg||
nt|athene: better lead a diamond against 6@H here|pg||
mb|1H|mb|p|nt|mcarroll: Lots of work|pg||
nt|mcarroll: lots of work needed|pg||
nt|ntmon: leader changes after each board |pg||
nt|athene: shouldn't be too hard though|pg||
nt|roswolf: another distributional fit|pg||
mb|3D|an| |mb|4D|nt|woozle: only two certain losers, but I'm not sure how many winners|pg||
nt|roswolf: well the @D lead signposted|pg||
nt|athene: 3@D is GF raise with singleton|pg||
nt|roswolf: 3@D shows 1 singleton(unspecified) + gf i am told|pg||
nt|athene: some specs might be wondering why east didn't just double|pg||
mb|d|an| |nt|athene: there are two possible explanations|pg||
mb|p|nt|jcomyn: finding h here will be tricky|pg||
nt|jcomyn: and game on|pg||
nt|athene: firstly they might play x as t/o of hearts (unlikely)|pg||
mb|4S|an| |nt|athene: secondly he just wants to emphasize he has real playing strength in diamonds so there might be a sac|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: whereas a lead-directing double could be as little as @DKQ10x or so|pg||
mb|5D|an| |mb|p|nt|ntmon: much depends on methods now|pg||
nt|hedyg: notice no XX from Gino to show Kx in @D|pg||
mb|6H|nt|blum1956: not enough entries to make the @d s work and too bad @h distribution to crossruff effectively|pg||
nt|woozle: On the last board, Harding in the other room tried 3NT with the matching 4333s - down one also, but had chances for 10 in|pg||
nt|roswolf: brakes need to be applied now|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|roswolf: OTT|pg||
nt|athene: i guess one other advantage for 4@D over double is it takes some room away from opps|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d2|pc|dA|nt|mcarroll: which red suit to try is the question|pg||
pc|d5|pg||
nt|ntmon: very lucky for NS|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|woozle: A bit sad here that the third diamond will be ruffed with the short defensive trumps|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d3|pc|d4|pg||
nt|athene: ok, it looks here as though madala has shown a diamond control|pg||
mc|11|nt|roswolf: i think n/s were reckless here although who was to blame we may never know|pg||
pg||
qx|o16|st||md|2SAKT8HJT73DKJTCQ5,SJ63HAQ84D864CAJT,S9542HK92DQ2CK942,SQ7H65DA9753C8763|sv|e|mb|1C|nt|oosb: West will open|pg||
nt|pelu: so far only 3 tables - all i B-swiss - in 6@d|pg||
mb|p|mb|1D|mb|d|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|oosb: I call for straight promotion to A then :)|pg||
nt|pelu: prob 9 tricks|pg||
pc|c6|nt|oosb: Bought this contract cheap|pg||
nt|oosb: 8-9 straight forward tricks|pg||
pc|c5|pc|cT|pc|cK|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s7|pc|sK|pc|s3|pg||
pc|dT|pc|d4|pc|d2|pc|d3|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d6|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg||
pc|h4|nt|pelu: finess or @HK - 9 tricks :)|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h5|pc|h7|pg||
pc|s5|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|s6|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d8|pc|h9|pc|d5|pg||
pc|hJ|mc|9|pg||
qx|c16|st||md|2SAKT8HJT73DKJTCQ5,SJ63HAQ84D864CAJT,S9542HK92DQ2CK942,SQ7H65DA9753C8763|sv|e|nt|ntmon: anyway 2IMP for better game to Lavazza|pg||
nt|jcomyn: probably and then 3d forcing with at least 5-5|pg||
nt|hedyg: a Zia cuebid of 5@D|pg||
nt|athene: is bocchi teaching madala some interesting italian phrases at high speed now? if so, chances are, it was south's fault|pg||
mb|1C|nt|roswolf: didnt work - it is good to see that the top players are also mere mortals:)|pg||
mb|p|mb|2C|mb|d|mb|p|nt|hedyg: we have been seeing a lot of that|pg||
mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|athene: 2@C is a reverse inverted minor - it shows a raise to the two-level|pg||
nt|roswolf: 2@c rather than 1@d was an interesting choice|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h3|nt|woozle: Pepsi bids only 2NT...he apparently has lower standards for vulnerable 2H bids than I do|pg||
nt|woozle: Seamon-Molson raises to say "yes, I did overcall vulnerable"|pg||
nt|mcarroll: and the @S Ten is a vital asset|pg||
nt|woozle: I suppose she would never have raised without it|pg||
pc|hA|nt|mcarroll: :)|pg||
nt|jcomyn: now thats aggressive but i suppose the 5-card suit is useful|pg||
nt|jcomyn: H lead?|pg||
pc|h2|pg||
nt|ntmon: actually E hand is rather strong in 15-17 range|pg||
nt|ntmon: roles home now|pg||
nt|jcomyn: rolls even|pg||
nt|ntmon: rolls* :)|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h9|pc|h5|pc|h7|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s7|pc|sA|pc|s3|pg||
nt|jcomyn: h lkead d switch and another h but who would find that|pg||
nt|roswolf: ah a natural raise you mean bill:)|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s6|pc|s4|pc|sQ|pg||
nt|athene: it's good to see people raising clubs|pg||
nt|athene: doesn't happen often :)|pg||
nt|roswolf: yes of course they play transfers over 1@C -doh:(|pg||
mc|9|nt|jcomyn: and bocchi-Madala found that defence in open room|pg||
pg||
qx|o17|st||md|3SQJT8HKJ864DAC654,SA965HT7DJ73CKQ97,SK7432HAQ5DQ854C3,SH932DKT962CAJT82|sv|o|mb|1S|mb|2N|nt|oosb: Meanwhile Bocchi-Madala ended up in 6@H |pg||
nt|oosb: and defence cashed 2 top @D|pg||
mb|4D|nt|oosb: Was a difficult bidding problem|pg||
nt|inonli: South will support in @s showing inv+ values although if would play fit jump here would clarify things for the higher level bidding over the reaonable 5@c to come|pg||
nt|inonli: if bid @h north knows his hand plays very good |pg||
mb|5C|nt|inonli: although 5@s isnt easy here with this trump break|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|pelu: some play over 2NT: 3@C = Gf with @Hs (1.suit your own), 3@D = GF with @S, and 3@H/3@S NF|pg||
mb|5S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|inonli: any way 1@s 2NT 4@h should be played as @s +@h here|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|c7|pc|c3|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|cK|pc|s2|pg||
pc|s4|pc|c8|pc|sQ|pc|s5|pg||
nt|inonli: N did well to bid pass forcing after 5@c and not dbl with his QXXX @d|pg||
nt|oosb: Can beat this|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h7|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h3|pc|hK|pc|hT|pg||
pc|h6|pc|s6|pc|hQ|pc|h9|pg||
mc|10|nt|oosb: West will get trump control even if South ruffs @C|pg||
nt|oosb: Had West hurried to take A@S declarer wouldve made it|pg||
pg||
qx|c17|st||md|3SQJT8HKJ864DAC654,SA965HT7DJ73CKQ97,SK7432HAQ5DQ854C3,SH932DKT962CAJT82|sv|o|nt|woozle: Can make eleven tricks in spades EW by squeezing south in the red suits|pg||
nt|blum1956: If North opens a strong 1NT, what will West bid&|pg||
nt|blum1956: ?|pg||
nt|woozle: North much too strong for a strong notrump...although at favourable I might open 2NT|pg||
nt|woozle: A strong notrump is the second best preempt in bridge, after 2NT|pg||
nt|woozle: Is Pepsi deep in the tank, or is this a coffee break?|pg||
nt|blum1956: This time 1@c is the worst option for North - East may even preempt in @s s wich solves the problem for EW|pg||
nt|jcomyn: but nobody bid h - or s I suppose, so|pg||
nt|ntmon: Lavazza builds a sound, deserved lead|pg||
mb|1S|mb|2N|nt|athene: 4@D would be a splinter we assume|pg||
nt|athene: but he might not want to do that with a singleton ace|pg||
nt|roswolf: south will brush the intervention aside|pg||
mb|3D|an| |nt|athene: 3@D will be a spade raise anyway; presumably 3@C would be hearts|pg||
nt|hedyg: unusual vs unusual|pg||
mb|5C|nt|hedyg: 3@d showing invite + in @s|pg||
mb|p|nt|jcomyn: and can add toit here|pg||
nt|hedyg: 3@c would be invite + in @h|pg||
mb|p|nt|woozle: Fiona, bids the routine (at this vul) 2S|pg||
nt|roswolf: to the limit for west|pg||
mb|d|nt|mcarroll: well predicted!|pg||
mb|p|nt|woozle: McGann takes the quick path to game|pg||
nt|roswolf: good judgment|pg||
nt|athene: does bocchi have to find the diamond lead for 500 here?|pg||
mb|5S|nt|hedyg: maybe this is a hand t show invite + in @H and when d bids @H bid @s to show both majors|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: hmmm ok this looks as though bocchi made a forcing pass and now a slam try in spades which is surely a bit optimistic with his hand|pg||
nt|roswolf: south tempted to bid on!?|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|roswolf: good judgment again|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c4|nt|jcomyn: but very difficult|pg||
nt|ntmon: EW in OR might know that they're behind, so try to push|pg||
pc|c9|pc|c3|pg||
nt|hedyg: cannot be a forcing pass opposite what might be just invite|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c5|pc|c7|nt|athene: well it can be if you agree it is|pg||
pc|s2|pg||
pc|s3|pc|c2|nt|Walddk5: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswrunda3.html|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|hedyg: it is only when Madala doubles that he is better than invite|pg||
pc|sA|pg||
mc|11|nt|hedyg: if the 3@D bid had been gf, then it would have been a forcing pass|pg||
nt|athene: it's reasonable enough to play pass forcing if you showed at least game invite values and opps go to 5-level; 99% of the time they are advance saccing|pg||
pg||
qx|o18|st||md|4SAK97H43DQJ762C65,SJ543HT7DKT3CK732,S2HAQJ86DA9CAQJ98,SQT86HK952D854CT4|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|inonli: like did in the other room|pg||
mb|1H|mb|p|nt|pelu: bacl to board 14 - 7 pairs in B and 3 paits in A bid an mede 6@D - In A: Texan Aces, Apteker and Villa Fabricia - wd|pg||
mb|1S|nt|inonli: still when see both hands i like the 5@s contract|pg||
mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c3|pc|cQ|pc|c4|pc|c5|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d2|pc|d3|pg||
pc|d9|pc|d5|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pg||
nt|pelu: correction on B14: Teean Aces-Begintje - 6@D both tables!! score after 5 board 1-0|pg||
nt|oosb: wow!|pg||
nt|inonli: TD in the vlosed room last bd|pg||
nt|inonli: 5@s bocchi claimed?|pg||
nt|inonli: i think before Ginossar took ace @s|pg||
nt|pelu: W will ask TD to take @SA back :)|pg||
nt|inonli: as in open cards its always 1 down|pg||
nt|inonli: we shd wait to TD decision|pg||
nt|inonli: we arent sure hr realy played it in the table|pg||
nt|inonli: as the chat messages shows|pg||
nt|inonli: he|pg||
pc|h7|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|h4|pg||
pc|sT|pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s2|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|dT|pc|h6|pc|d8|pg||
pc|d7|pc|s4|pc|c8|pc|s6|pg||
pc|d6|pc|s5|pc|h8|pc|h2|pg||
pc|sK|pc|sJ|pc|c9|nt|oosb: Declarer might settle for +1 instead of +2|pg||
pc|s8|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c2|pc|cJ|pc|cT|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|c18|st||md|4SAK97H43DQJ762C65,SJ543HT7DKT3CK732,S2HAQJ86DA9CAQJ98,SQT86HK952D854CT4|sv|n|nt|woozle: OK, no squeeze if you don't play off your trumps...it's like half-strangling somebody|pg||
mb|p|nt|jcomyn: yes normal contract |pg||
nt|athene: but we just don't know the NS agreements here (or i don't anyway) :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|roswolf: lots of hcp but not much chance of a slam|pg||
nt|athene: i don't understand the last hand|pg||
nt|athene: if west just holds up his @SA isn't he beating 5@S?|pg||
nt|hedyg: he is, needs to hold up twice|pg||
nt|athene: he ducks twice - now if bocchi plays another trump he takes the ace and plays a fourth and the club ruff goes|pg||
nt|VugraphPLA: TD was called , Ginossar think 5s was -1 |pg||
nt|athene: if bocchi ruffs a club himself, then west can simply force the south hand in clubs|pg||
nt|hedyg: Tadeusz, did Gino duck the A@S?|pg||
nt|athene: maybe bocchi claimed 11 or something and west agreed without really thinking it through|pg||
nt|athene: seems unlikely though|pg||
nt|roswolf: indeed|pg||
nt|roswolf: but fatigue does play its part|pg||
nt|hedyg: not that unlikely, only 4-0 @ss could beat him|pg||
nt|hedyg: so he might well have played a @s from hand and claimed|pg||
nt|VugraphPLA: Well i haven't seen , Bocchi has just claimed|pg||
nt|hedyg: ok so we will wait, once declarer claims all play stops and you call the TD if you dont agree|pg||
nt|VugraphPLA: We are waiting for decision |pg||
mb|p|nt|jcomyn: might try 3nt here a behind bid|pg||
mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|woozle: McGann has been there before - the big preempt putting pressure on NS in exchange for losing an occasional miracle slam|pg||
mb|3C|nt|jcomyn: lots of controls in n hand why not 2nt|pg||
mb|p|mb|3N|nt|woozle: Pepsi chooses to go quietly with his 17-count, fearing that a double will be pulled too often|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|hedyg: "please continue to play, i will give you my decision"|pg||
mb|p|pc|hT|nt|woozle: If the match were closer, he probably would have acted|pg||
nt|blum1956: This is a partscore board besides McGann has another opinion))|pg||
nt|ntmon: NS play negative frre bids (NFB) after intervention, so S has extras and N accepts|pg||
nt|jcomyn: agree but prefer playing from n|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|h3|pg||
pc|sT|pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s2|pg||
nt|jcomyn: h lead from w would n ot be nice|pg||
nt|hedyg: a lot of messages from specs about the last board|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c7|pc|cJ|pc|c4|pg||
nt|ntmon: sure, @H better for defence but again .. not easy|pg||
nt|hedyg: it is quite clear: if the A@S is ducked twice he cannot make 5@ss|pg||
pc|cA|pc|cT|pc|c6|pc|c2|pg||
nt|jcomyn: d and small c and pray|pg||
nt|ntmon: actually case is good after lead from @SA|pg||
nt|jcomyn: going to the wire|pg||
pc|c8|nt|jcomyn: cant be thinking anything but a s|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d2|pc|cK|pg||
nt|jcomyn: home now i think|pg||
nt|roswolf: i bet the score stands though - if the claim was accepted even though in error - thats it unless it was impossible to win the number of tricks claimed|pg||
nt|roswolf: which it clearly wasnt|pg||
nt|athene: i'm not so sure - declarer is meant to give a line of play|pg||
pc|s4|pc|h6|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h7|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|d8|pc|d6|nt|roswolf: depends whether the defenders accepted the claim -ie by putting the hands away|pg||
pc|c3|pg||
pc|c9|pc|d5|pc|s7|mc|9|pg||
qx|o19|st||md|1SK643HJT9DAJ3CJ84,SAQJT85HA642DKCT7,S72H53DT95CAK9652,S9HKQ87DQ87642CQ3|sv|e|nt|oosb: although @S have been discarded so its quite safe|pg||
mb|p|mb|1S|mb|3C|nt|oosb: 4@H EW? How's 5@C as a save? |pg||
mb|d|nt|pelu: a lot of hard work in 4@H - 4@S down 1 from "top"|pg||
mb|p|nt|inonli: 5@c i think can be 800|pg||
mb|3H|mb|p|nt|oosb: Q@C promotion on @S lead|pg||
nt|pelu: S has a lot of defensive valkues and will nor bid over 4 najor|pg||
mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cA|nt|oosb: Well done to reach 4@H, and Duboin favorite to make|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|c7|pg||
nt|inonli: this will make |pg||
pc|cK|pc|cQ|pc|c8|pc|cT|pg||
nt|inonli: something i cant say about the 4@s contract other table..|pg||
nt|oosb: I really like the 4@C bid from Madala|pg||
nt|oosb: Should this be played on @S or @D though. |pg||
nt|oosb: A Kib suggests, A@D now and another @C will sink it|pg||
nt|oosb: DD you can make on any defence, since @D 3-3|pg||
nt|pelu: very low scoring round: Taxan-Begintja 1-0, Bissis-denmark 2-1, De Botton - Mirage 3-0, Joker _ Anava 3-1 - alomst a soccer game|pg||
pc|s7|pc|s9|pc|sK|nt|oosb: So for example on the forced ruff and discard defence, you ruff with West hand, play @H to K, ruff a @D, play A@H, A@S, ruff @S, draw last trumps and will be able to run the @Ds|pg||
pc|sA|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|hK|pc|h9|pg||
nt|pelu: Du boin: tx!|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|hT|pc|h4|pc|h5|pg||
pc|h7|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pc|c2|pg||
nt|oosb: All moot now|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|c19|st||md|1SK643HJT9DAJ3CJ84,SAQJT85HA642DKCT7,S72H53DT95CAK9652,S9HKQ87DQ87642CQ3|sv|e|nt|woozle: nobody was going to mess up that defense|pg||
nt|woozle: I'm not seeing the string of double-digit swings that Harding need to get back into the match|pg||
nt|ntmon: good effort by Monaco on  8|pg||
mb|p|nt|jcomyn: yes|pg||
nt|jcomyn: 3nt|pg||
mb|1S|mb|3C|nt|jcomyn: solid 2nt for m,e|pg||
mb|d|nt|ntmon: some will preemt with N hand|pg||
nt|athene: interesting - no Ghestem for this NS pair|pg||
nt|athene: but most italian pairs do play some sort of ghestem|pg||
nt|hedyg: with the E hand you bid X and pray pd doesnt bid 3@s|pg||
mb|4C|nt|woozle: Now a notrump partscore, probably with an overtrick or two|pg||
nt|roswolf: now 4@H more normal although may double|pg||
mb|4S|nt|mcarroll: Probably best described as a Joey Silver hand|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|blum1956: the @h position is of that special sort so nothing may disturb this contract|pg||
nt|athene: 4@S possible with such a good suit|pg||
pc|cK|nt|roswolf: and chosen|pg||
nt|hedyg: they do play Ghestem on their CC|pg||
nt|athene: sometimes partner has good diamonds and weak hearts and you can make 4@S but not 4@H|pg||
nt|hedyg: just maybe not with @cs|pg||
nt|athene: throwing hearts on diamonds|pg||
pc|c3|nt|jcomyn: what now - dicey|pg||
pc|c8|pc|cT|pg||
pc|cA|pc|cQ|pc|c4|pc|c7|pg||
pc|d5|nt|ntmon: @S lead in OR, no  problem then|pg||
pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|dK|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|roswolf: this will drift down|pg||
nt|hedyg: OR in 4@H|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|hK|pg||
pc|s9|pc|s3|nt|jcomyn: what with a good 6-carder|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s2|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s7|pc|d4|pc|sK|pg||
nt|jcomyn: and suddenly things change drastically|pg||
nt|hedyg: Gino must have thought his @ss were good enough to play even opposite shortness|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|o20|st||md|2S92HQJ53D987CQ842,SKQJTHT876DKJ2CT5,S864HA94DAQTCJ763,SA753HK2D6543CAK9|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|vugraphpl5: This is last board|pg||
nt|vugraphpl5: next round will be start at 14.30|pg||
mb|2C|nt|oosb: 4@S looks terribly unlucky|pg||
mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|pelu: Last board - tx to Oosman and all Kibs - to our fine operator, Joanna, and spec tx to the outstanding IT-staff - fantastic service for us and all spectators|pg||
nt|oosb: And to you Peter, and Inon |pg||
nt|inonli: Thx|pg||
pc|s2|nt|oosb: Thanks everyone, a lot more action still to come from Poznan|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Tak er kun et fattigt ord|pg||
pc|sT|pc|s6|nt|Walddk2: sry private|pg||
pc|s3|pg||
nt|pelu: sorry I forgot Inon Liran from Israel - tx|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h4|pc|hK|pc|h3|pg||
nt|oosb: Just one of those hands, 3NT not any better.|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|h7|pc|h9|pg||
pc|s4|nt|Walddk2: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswrunda4.html|pg||
nt|oosb: However some pairs stopped in 2@S/3@S/1NT|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s9|pc|sJ|pg||
nt|oosb: and will gain imps here|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|c2|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d7|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg||
pc|s8|pc|sA|pc|d8|pc|sQ|pg||
nt|oosb: Love the results website, you can get board analysis, live scores from all the matches, as well as team scores and positions|pg||
nt|oosb: cant ask for more|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d9|mc|9|pg||
qx|c20|st||md|2S92HQJ53D987CQ842,SKQJTHT876DKJ2CT5,S864HA94DAQTCJ763,SA753HK2D6543CAK9|sv|b|nt|ntmon: surprises me how often 3NT is made through the field|pg||
nt|jcomyn: isnt that amazing|pg||
nt|hedyg: last board of this match now|pg||
nt|roswolf: tried to drop a singleton trump king|pg||
nt|hedyg: thanks to our outstanding operator in Poznan, Tadeusz ! to my excellent fellow commentators Geoffrey and Bill for donating their time and expertise to guide us through these ...|pg||
nt|hedyg: boards.our appreciation to the EBL and the PBF for bringing this event to BBO, especially Slawek Latala  who was intrumental in organizing these broadcasts on behalf of BBO|pg||
nt|hedyg: special thanks to our specs for joining and for your kind and helpful comments,we hope you enjoyed the show|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|hedyg: we will be back at 14 30 CET, in 1 hour and 38 minutes|pg||
mb|1D|nt|jcomyn: 20 impps in last 2 boards|pg||
nt|roswolf: scheduled restart in 1hr 35 mins approx|pg||
mb|p|mb|1H|nt|ntmon: new leader - i didn't tell that during last few boards|pg||
mb|p|nt|mcarroll: yet another Major partscore hand|pg||
mb|1S|mb|p|nt|hedyg: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswleaderb.html|pg||
nt|athene: west might try an aggressive 3@S now, thinking his @DKJx mesh nicely with his partner's diamond suit|pg||
mb|2C|an| |nt|athene: in fact, of course, they mesh nicely with *north's* diamond suit|pg||
nt|athene: ok, 2@C then 2@S i guess|pg||
nt|roswolf: the pitiful crutch of 4SF |pg||
nt|athene: show an invitational hand but stop at the 2 level|pg||
mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|nt|woozle: 4S is cold|pg||
nt|blum1956: 4@s could be made|pg||
nt|woozle: with CA onside, diamond position, spade position and no diamond ruff coming|pg||
nt|ntmon: 2@C may not be wise - who has the @S suit? probably partner, and is weak ...|pg||
nt|jcomyn: big finish for someone|pg||
nt|jcomyn: and it isnt lavazza|pg||
nt|ntmon: .. but this is not the case|pg||
mb|3S|nt|mcarroll: Yes but has to get @Ds right|pg||
nt|hedyg: can not be more than invite by passed hand|pg||
mb|p|nt|jcomyn: frying pan into the toaster|pg||
nt|athene: nope, he tries 3 anyway|pg||
mb|4S|nt|roswolf: east will accept!?|pg||
mb|p|nt|woozle: McGann tries 4H, down one or two on a spade guess with the club hook failing|pg||
nt|hedyg: but 2@s should be enough|pg||
mb|p|nt|woozle: down one...Fiona surely won't try the SK now|pg||
nt|blum1956: -50 against -140 or -170 is a useful 3 imps|pg||
mb|p|nt|ntmon: X should secure @C lead against 3NT|pg||
nt|hedyg: 1 card out of 3 is on side|pg||
pc|s2|nt|jcomyn: craziest contract of the week|pg||
nt|roswolf: north needs to avoid being endplayed here|pg||
nt|hedyg: i dont think he can get endplayed|pg||
nt|athene: endplay is unlikely because after ruffing a club and drawing trumps, west has no trumps left so a fourth club is fine|pg||
pc|sT|pc|s6|pc|s3|pg||
pc|h6|nt|hedyg: even A@H and @H is fine|pg||
pc|h9|nt|woozle: I fear at this point that 3 isn't enough|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h3|pg||
nt|ntmon: prediction? abstain..|pg||
nt|roswolf: indeed as it happens but still care needs to be taken|pg||
pc|h2|nt|jcomyn: hope no children are watching|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h7|pc|hA|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s5|pc|s9|pc|sJ|pg||
pc|h8|pc|h4|pc|s7|pc|hJ|pg||
nt|woozle: South could try for down two by ducking the first club|pg||
nt|athene: maybe @S6-@S4 is a subtle signal asking for a diamond|pg||
nt|athene: but bocchi can see it doesn't really matter i think|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|c3|pg||
nt|blum1956: Yes they need average 10.6 a bord to even the match|pg||
nt|athene: diamonds can't be going away|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|cT|pc|c6|pg||
pc|c9|pc|c8|pc|sQ|pc|c7|pg||
pc|hT|nt|ntmon: last board of the set, big thx to our falwless! operator in Poznan, to all kibs who will continue to see the show, next round in a short time |pg||
pc|dT|pc|sA|nt|woozle: Fiona needn't have bothered with the club finesse - couldn't work (Pepsi had passed and had shown ten points already)|pg||
pc|hQ|pg||
pc|d3|mc|9|nt|roswolf: bye all for now|pg||
nt|athene: thanks all|pg||
nt|hedyg: bye for now !|pg||
nt|VugraphPLA: TD hasnt made decision about 17th board yet|pg||
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