vg|B EC 2011 Open Teams Swiss _,1_7,I,11,20,Lavazza,0,China Trinergy,0| rs|4HW-1,5CE-1,5CN-1,5CN-2,3CN=,2HS-2,4HS+1,6HS-1,4SW=,4SW+1,5SEx-1,5SEx-1,4SWx=,4SE=,4SN+1,6SN-1,5SW=,5SW=,3NW-1,5CE-1| pn|Madala,Sun,Bocchi,Kang,Wang,Duboin,Lu,Sementa|pg|| qx|o11|st||md|1SK53HQT6DKQT73CT8,ST874HK97432DJCAQ,SQJ96HA8D98654C92,SA2HJ5DA2CKJ76543|sv|o|nt|xenya: Two very strong teams here -- this is going to be an exciting match|pg|| mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sJ|pc|s2|nt|xenya: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswrunda1.html for running scores|pg|| nt|xenya: i can see 9 tricks here -- but no 10th|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s7|pg|| nt|Walddk3: Welcome to David Burn|pg|| nt|dburn: hello|pg|| nt|xenya: hello David|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s8|pg|| nt|dburn: different wrong contract reached at the other table - I guess 3NT was just too tough to bid|pg|| nt|xenya: 5@C in the other room also went down -- 3N is the spot here but not easy to reach with huge fits in 2 suits|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c8|pc|cA|pc|c2|pg|| pc|s4|nt|dburn: but barring 4-0 clubs, it did have nine on top|pg|| pc|s9|pc|h5|pc|sK|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cT|pc|cQ|pc|c9|pg|| nt|dburn: actually, even 4-0 clubs wouldn't hurt it|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sQ|nt|dburn: since East has two entries|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dJ|pc|d8|pc|dA|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|h2|pc|d4|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h8|pc|c5|pc|h6|pg|| pc|hA|pc|c6|pc|hT|pc|h4|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c11|st||md|1SK53HQT6DKQT73CT8,ST874HK97432DJCAQ,SQJ96HA8D98654C92,SA2HJ5DA2CKJ76543|sv|o|nt|jfaria: final session now wlc|pg|| nt|vugraphpl1: Hi|pg|| nt|oosmanb: Hi Everyone|pg|| nt|oosmanb: Hi Everyone|pg|| nt|mcsd: Hello all|pg|| nt|oosmanb: Big match, Mahaffey currently 1st in Group E at 91 VPs, and Helle close behind in 2nd at 86|pg|| nt|jcomyn: any funny stories about Paddy the Irishman, Paddy the Portuguese and Paddy the Turk|pg|| mb|p|nt|vugraphpl1: problem with hands|pg|| nt|oosmanb: Okay we'll wait|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|nt|jr7: Hi|pg|| nt|jcomyn: hi all|pg|| mb|1D|nt|oosmanb: We're off with a fun hand|pg|| nt|MolvaM: :)|pg|| mb|d|nt|oosmanb: This 3@C might imply fit?|pg|| nt|jfaria: 27 places out of this swiss to playoffs|pg|| mb|3D|nt|MolvaM: 27 teams from swiss-A, and 5 teams from swiss-B|pg|| nt|MolvaM: after 7 matches will have been played|pg|| nt|MolvaM: so the knockouts start monday|pg|| mb|p|nt|oosmanb: maybe not fit, as Bryant wouldve bid 4@S not dbl|pg|| nt|mamos: hi all|pg|| nt|oosmanb: Hi Mile|pg|| nt|mcsd: doubleing Pepsi in 4@H is not a good idea|pg|| nt|oosmanb: Mike*|pg|| nt|oosmanb: Dbling Pepsi in ANYTHING is not a good idea|pg|| nt|jr7: No names - but now are we playing :)|pg|| mb|p|nt|jfaria: 4@h seems resonable|pg|| mb|d|nt|oosmanb: Get those @D ruffs going fast!|pg|| mb|p|nt|mamos: yes unless we NS get those ruffs|pg|| nt|oosmanb: and even then would probably lose imps to vul 4@S |pg|| nt|mcsd: a@d would be a great lead, or switch|pg|| nt|jcomyn: they'll all be bridge-weary by then|pg|| nt|jcomyn: might sdhoot 3nt|pg|| nt|jfaria: 2d X wont bring @h into play|pg|| mb|5C|nt|jfaria: playing in nt will meet an unfavorable @h break |pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|jcomyn: nor aqny comment needed either. these mundane 3nt should be abolished|pg|| mb|p|nt|jcomyn: mmm 9 tricks in n t|pg|| pc|dK|nt|jfaria: 2@c must be some kinf|pg|| nt|jfaria: kind of good hand|pg|| nt|MolvaM: here is the running score page http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswleaderb.html|pg|| nt|MolvaM: 46 teams playing in group A, and 74 teams in B|pg|| pc|dJ|nt|oosmanb: oh dear|pg|| nt|jcomyn: if you think about it - why bother when 30 tablesd will play in 3nt|pg|| pc|d8|nt|jfaria: now lets se the lead...|pg|| nt|oosmanb: Play in @H all that matters now|pg|| nt|mamos: NS are pair based in England Rob Helle Dutch lives and works a lot of the time now in Poland -- a great funloving guy with wit and charm |pg|| nt|jr7: first he play @C|pg|| pc|dA|pg|| nt|oosmanb: Oh wow I was wrong. 4@H +1 in other room!!|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d3|nt|jfaria: yestarday a leaing british master was telling that unsoported leading honours are underrated|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|d6|pg|| pc|cA|nt|jfaria: he defended a honour lead from this holdong|pg|| nt|jfaria: based on computer simulation|pg|| nt|jfaria: looks like he was right this time|pg|| nt|oosmanb: Moment of truth|pg|| nt|oosmanb: Will go up I think|pg|| nt|oosmanb: but Dbl ..|pg|| nt|mcsd: may be tat dbl is good idea after all :)|pg|| nt|oosmanb: I really dont know what the right play is, so I'll back whatever Pepsi decides|pg|| nt|mcsd: now lets anylise, S is known to hold 5+@S 2+@C probably more|pg|| nt|oosmanb: Seems like North has 7@C 3@S but 1@D 2@H or 2@D 1@H?|pg|| nt|mcsd: hard to imagine that he would double without a@D , dso that goes for 10-11 known cards|pg|| nt|oosmanb: technically could be 6@C 3@S 2-2 3-1 1-3 as well?|pg|| nt|mcsd: so etleast 2@H going up with K is more then 80%|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|c8|pg|| nt|oosmanb: Mustafa Tokay and Baldursson playing for team Lavazza|pg|| nt|oosmanb: Coldea is North|pg|| pc|s4|nt|oosmanb: Are these the right hands now?|pg|| nt|vugraphpl1: pls w8|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sA|pc|s3|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cT|pc|h2|pc|c9|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|d7|pc|s7|pc|d9|pg|| pc|c7|pc|dT|pc|s8|pc|d5|pg|| nt|jr7: Why did Øst not take the @HJ ? Now it is too late!|pg|| pc|c5|pc|s5|pc|sT|nt|jfaria: winners of initial RR got 3 VP. RU 1VP|pg|| pc|s9|pg|| pc|c4|nt|jfaria: not a good start for Lavazza|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h3|nt|jcomyn: not like them to miss a stone cold 3nt|pg|| pc|d4|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hT|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o12|st||md|2SA542H72DQ543CQJ6,ST63HAKJT6D97CT83,S987H9DAKJCAK9742,SKQJHQ8543DT862C5|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1C!|mb|p|mb|1H!|nt|dburn: 5@c the right place here, though|pg|| mb|p|mb|1S!|nt|xenya: good hand for Bidding Challenge|pg|| mb|p|nt|dburn: though I suppose, if they cash a heart and shift to a spade, you might not make it|pg|| mb|2C|mb|p|nt|xenya: 1@H is probably @Ss|pg|| mb|3C|mb|p|nt|xenya: yes, that would beat 5@C|pg|| nt|dburn: or even if they don't cash the heart first, I guess - surprised that Sun didn't double the 1@h response, but maybe he doesn't play that as hearts|pg|| mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|nt|dburn: 5@c was reached in the other room and was down two - no doubt declarer, trying to make it, overtook the jack of diamonds after drawing trumps|pg|| mb|4C|mb|p|mb|5C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|dburn: and that collapsed two of his winners into one|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|h9|pg|| nt|dburn: perhaps he drew two trumps, then tried to cash three diamonds|pg|| nt|xenya: W may not find the spade switch now|pg|| nt|dburn: indeed - tough defence for him|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s9|pc|sJ|nt|dburn: tough defender|pg|| pc|s2|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|s7|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|c5|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c8|pc|cK|pc|h4|pg|| pc|cA|pc|h5|pc|cJ|pc|cT|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|d7|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d6|pc|d4|pc|d9|pg|| pc|c9|pc|h8|pc|s4|pc|h6|pg|| nt|dburn: might as well run trumps, in case someone has four spades and four diamonds|pg|| pc|c7|pc|hQ|pc|h7|nt|dburn: or makes a mistake|pg|| pc|hT|pg|| pc|c4|pc|sQ|nt|xenya: note that the @S10 from Sun would have been disastrous for the defence -- E would have been squeezed|pg|| pc|s5|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d8|pc|dQ|pc|sT|pg|| pc|d5|pc|hA|pc|s8|pc|dT|pg|| pg|| qx|c12|st||md|2SA542H72DQ543CQJ6,ST63HAKJT6D97CT83,S987H9DAKJCAK9742,SKQJHQ8543DT862C5|sv|n|nt|vugraphpl1: now start W|pg|| nt|vugraphpl1: i have E |pg|| nt|vugraphpl1: it's problem.|pg|| nt|oosmanb: 4@s wasnt entirely straight forward btw, specially on a @d lead|pg|| nt|oosmanb: in the other room Rodwell never introduced @C|pg|| nt|jcomyn: oh well I suppose an imp is an imp|pg|| nt|jcomyn: easy c game|pg|| mb|p|nt|oosmanb: so Meck didnt bid past 3@S, didnt dbl 4@H, and they didnt set 4@H either|pg|| nt|jfaria: it prooved hard to get together @c quality and @d stopper , i guess|pg|| mb|1C|nt|jcomyn: this could be a big ouch|pg|| nt|jcomyn: and 4 tens hcp|pg|| mb|1H|mb|d|nt|jcomyn: what does 1t mean|pg|| mb|4H|nt|oosmanb: This looks like limit bid with 5+@D ?|pg|| nt|jcomyn: 1nt|pg|| mb|5C|nt|jr7: 1M + 1m|pg|| mb|p|nt|jfaria: despite the bonnus lead think 4@h was a winnner, last board|pg|| nt|oosmanb: unless they're on a different system altogether|pg|| nt|oosmanb: Oh precision|pg|| nt|jcomyn: vul - gee whiz i AM getting old|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|oosmanb: so GF with @D?|pg|| pc|sK|nt|jfaria: now or never situation :)|pg|| pc|sA|nt|mamos: NS play Tarzan Precision like Wijs Muller|pg|| pc|s6|nt|oosmanb: The deal numbers are loaded wrong I think|pg|| nt|oosmanb: 11-20 that's why|pg|| nt|jcomyn: anyone like this contract - i dont|pg|| pc|s9|pg|| nt|oosmanb: Decent contract, should be able to handle bad trump break|pg|| nt|vugraphpl1: I must give 2 pass. W is dealer|pg|| nt|oosmanb: Sorry folks|pg|| nt|mamos: lots of relays|pg|| nt|oosmanb: I'm getting a lot of help from kibs, appreciate it. 2@H relay|pg|| nt|mamos: yes :)|pg|| nt|mcsd: when the auction ends declarer lets tarzan screem?|pg|| nt|oosmanb: atleast NT right sided|pg|| nt|oosmanb: now they need to stop in 3|pg|| pc|c6|nt|jfaria: we lost the more interesting chalenge in 4@s..|pg|| pc|c3|nt|oosmanb: I'm being helped by Ant Edwards, perhaps 2@S is high shortage, and 3@D 2-3-5-3 exactly|pg|| pc|cA|nt|mamos: they have im sure|pg|| pc|c5|pg|| nt|jcomyn: terence reese once said 4 to the 9 is NOT a suit - and i agree|pg|| pc|cK|nt|mamos: i know that the first relay asks shape I only know this syastem from being at the other side of the table :)|pg|| pc|h8|pc|cJ|pc|c8|pg|| nt|oosmanb: As the hand is you can make 12 tricks |pg|| nt|mamos: as it happens cards are very kind for declarer |pg|| nt|jcomyn: needed clubs 2-2|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|nt|jr7: @D8 will call for @S - as I play|pg|| pc|d3|nt|oosmanb: He's trying to cross ruff the whole hand|pg|| nt|oosmanb: but might be a trick short|pg|| pc|d7|pg|| nt|oosmanb: 10 probably coded|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d6|pc|d4|pc|d9|pg|| nt|jfaria: @d 3 3 or 4@d with 3@c |pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dT|pc|d5|nt|oosmanb: so shows 2 above|pg|| pc|cT|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s7|pc|sJ|nt|oosmanb: since south is ruffing @S too|pg|| pc|s2|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s4|nt|oosmanb: ALL IN!|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s8|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|h9|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o13|st||md|3S5HAK983DQ7643C75,SQJ984HQT72DA95C8,SAT732HJDJTCAQJT2,SK6H654DK82CK9643|sv|b|nt|xenya: but now he can throw the @SQ|pg|| nt|dburn: well done the defenders - that wasn't nearly as easy as they made it look|pg|| nt|xenya: indeed|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|nt|dburn: this looks like Godzilla in some form or other|pg|| mb|3C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|dburn: 2@c various things, 2@d some values, 2@s minimum with spades and clubs|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|dT|pg|| nt|dburn: but whatever it is, it has resulted in a more playable contract than 2@h|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|c5|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c7|pc|d9|pc|cA|pg|| nt|dburn: and I suppose declarer might have made it, if he'd gone after his spade ruff|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c3|pc|h3|pc|s8|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c4|pc|h8|pc|h7|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|d4|pc|d5|pg|| pc|h4|nt|dburn: but Kang had better be careful now|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|d8|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hT|pc|s3|pc|h5|pg|| pc|d7|pc|s9|pc|s7|pc|h6|pg|| pc|d6|pc|sJ|pc|c2|pc|c6|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s5|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s6|pc|h9|pc|hQ|pg|| pg|| qx|c13|st||md|3S5HAK983DQ7643C75,SQJ984HQT72DA95C8,SAT732HJDJTCAQJT2,SK6H654DK82CK9643|sv|b|nt|jfaria: but since 4@h doesnt make we lost nothing really :)|pg|| nt|jcomyn: oh well two standard games and a bif 11 imps swin. 4h here easy|pg|| nt|jcomyn: that got what it deserved lucky not to be doubled|pg|| nt|jcomyn: nasty class of a deal|pg|| mb|1S|nt|oosmanb: another 1@C|pg|| mb|p|nt|oosmanb: Hi John|pg|| nt|jcomyn: and another one|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|nt|jcomyn: hi oosman|pg|| nt|mamos: so strong and a neg|pg|| nt|jcomyn: precision no doubt|pg|| mb|2C|mb|p|nt|jcomyn: hi mike|pg|| nt|oosmanb: 3@D < 18 natural I'm told|pg|| nt|mamos: yep John we are back in The jungle with Tarzan Precision|pg|| nt|jcomyn: part score in d|pg|| mb|2H|mb|p|nt|jfaria: S was likely to try a red...he choosed the worst|pg|| nt|jcomyn: he sure did|pg|| nt|jcomyn: i would always bid 2d|pg|| mb|p|nt|oosmanb: Mustve shown @H :)|pg|| mb|p|nt|jr7: an easy 3NT|pg|| nt|jcomyn: end played at trick one|pg|| pc|s4|nt|jcomyn: very good way of playing right way up|pg|| nt|oosmanb: probably 5-5 reds|pg|| nt|jcomyn: havent seen too many of your lot playing precision mike|pg|| nt|jcomyn: anyway I'm sujre yolu have an amusing explanation of Tarzan Precision|pg|| nt|oosmanb: I'd give open @D and hope for A@S on or @H 3-2|pg|| nt|mamos: played by Wijs Muller |pg|| nt|jr7: Small communikationproblems|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|s5|pg|| nt|jfaria: 3nt plyed by South looked fine|pg|| nt|jr7: and @D|pg|| nt|jfaria: its human to try @h , there was still a small chance of a vuln game in a major...|pg|| pc|dJ|nt|oosmanb: Live standings and scores here: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/orrleaderb.html|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d6|pc|d9|pg|| nt|jcomyn: knew it.. lol|pg|| nt|oosmanb: Helle has overtook Mahaffey as of now|pg|| nt|jcomyn: maybe human but not practical|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h3|pc|hQ|pc|hJ|pg|| nt|jfaria: if def failed to discover @s I mean|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|h8|pg|| pc|c7|nt|jfaria: anyway 10 tricks is not an easy task|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cT|pc|cK|pg|| nt|oosmanb: This is scary now|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|dT|pg|| nt|oosmanb: wouldve been so much easier if West had taken his King!|pg|| nt|jcomyn: yes and switch s|pg|| nt|oosmanb: but declarer didnt need ruffing finesse|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sT|pc|h5|pc|h9|pg|| nt|mamos: no way back for declarer I fear|pg|| nt|oosmanb: just ruff 7@D then draw trumps and concede open @D|pg|| nt|oosmanb: make over trick if A@S on|pg|| nt|mcsd: in current stage of the match E-W needs 4 Imp to winn|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|s3|pc|h4|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h7|pc|s7|pc|d8|pg|| nt|jr7: Yes now! - but from start?|pg|| pc|c5|pc|hT|pc|c2|pc|c3|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|cJ|pc|c4|pc|d4|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|cQ|pc|c6|pc|d7|pg|| pc|d5|pc|cA|pc|c9|pc|dQ|pg|| pg|| qx|o14|st||md|4SQ3HAKJ32DQT843C5,SJT2H97DK95CQ9862,SAK98HQ865DJ7CAKT,S7654HT4DA62CJ743|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2C!|mb|p|mb|2H!|mb|p|mb|2S!|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|4C|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c2|mc|11|nt|dburn: this is not a good result for China either - 6@h had very close to no chance at all|pg|| pg|| qx|c14|st||md|4SQ3HAKJ32DQT843C5,SJT2H97DK95CQ9862,SAK98HQ865DJ7CAKT,S7654HT4DA62CJ743|sv|o|nt|oosmanb: Pepsi wasnt going to get pd endplayed|pg|| nt|mamos: no mistake from EW|pg|| mb|p|nt|jcomyn: easy to go too high here|pg|| mb|1H|nt|jfaria: like W choice|pg|| nt|jfaria: good suit|pg|| mb|p|nt|jfaria: more stuff in @h than outside|pg|| nt|oosmanb: 4@H makeable?|pg|| mb|2N|mb|p|nt|oosb: Hi everyone. Final segment of the final in progress|pg|| nt|oosmanb: 1@H-2@H-4@H|pg|| nt|jfaria: if N bids some GF in @h they will stop |pg|| mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4D|nt|jfaria: hi Oosman|pg|| nt|oosb: Hi Joao|pg|| mb|p|nt|jfaria: wlc , lost some nce boards, more will come :)|pg|| nt|jcomyn: yes nobody can cue D|pg|| mb|4S|nt|oosmanb: now NS have more info|pg|| nt|mamos: This is the penultimate round from the Round Robin stage = eight team groups advancing to Swiss A and B today and tomorrow|pg|| nt|oosmanb: This is very tricky|pg|| mb|p|nt|jcomyn: how many teams from each group|pg|| nt|mamos: 3 to A and rest to B|pg|| nt|mamos: then 27 from A and 5 from B|pg|| nt|jr7: as the book said :)|pg|| nt|jcomyn: but n might think s has|pg|| nt|jfaria: but S bid his @d not so easy now..|pg|| mb|4N|mb|p|mb|5S|nt|mamos: to make up 32 KO|pg|| nt|oosmanb: that happened?|pg|| mb|p|nt|jcomyn: dead now|pg|| mb|6H|nt|oosb: Overtrick now|pg|| nt|oosmanb: Not so tricky now|pg|| nt|jfaria: no way to get @d out|pg|| nt|jcomyn: bidding a 2nd suit can be dangerous as it can be misleading|pg|| mb|p|nt|jcomyn: count to 9 is a good idea|pg|| nt|jcomyn: 4c surely better pinpointing absence of d control|pg|| nt|jfaria: this looks like "systematic" but 4@d looks quite a mistery to me|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|jcomyn: apart from s trying to tell p he has 5-card d|pg|| pc|sJ|nt|jcomyn: in any case i dont care for that 2nt bid why not 1s and take it easy. everybody in such a rush this week|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s4|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h7|nt|jr7: A@S and Q@H|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h4|pg|| nt|jfaria: fine play and a making 4@s by the right man :)|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h9|pc|hQ|pc|hT|pg|| pc|h6|nt|jr7: bad idea :(|pg|| pc|s5|nt|jfaria: so much useless discards, S must think :(|pg|| pc|hK|nt|oosmanb: can give 2 open @H now|pg|| nt|mamos: the Club position was always going to help as well|pg|| pc|c6|pg|| nt|jcomyn: cant be thinking about it..|pg|| nt|oosmanb: declarer might be safety playing with AKxxx opp Jxx ? |pg|| nt|jcomyn: hae me doots|pg|| nt|jfaria: or not?|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|s9|nt|oosmanb: so hes thinking 10x or Kx with pd|pg|| nt|jcomyn: phew|pg|| pc|s6|pg|| nt|jfaria: irrelevant if E takes the @d A or not|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s7|pc|d3|pc|sT|pg|| nt|jfaria: the contract just neede to be played by the man :)|pg|| pc|sA|pc|c3|pc|d4|nt|jfaria: not so useless :)|pg|| pc|c2|pg|| pc|h8|pc|d6|pc|hJ|nt|jfaria: but not enough|pg|| pc|d9|pg|| pc|h3|pc|d5|pc|cT|pc|c4|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c8|pc|cA|pc|c7|pg|| nt|jfaria: @c lead would be killer by W|pg|| nt|jfaria: now 5 minuts rotaion, dont go away :)|pg|| nt|oosb: Yeah if played by South can be beaten on @c lead|pg|| nt|oosb: Well done by NS to bid this, dbl by South was very good|pg|| nt|oosb: perhaps automatic at this high level|pg|| nt|jfaria: agree|pg|| nt|oosb: but I'm not sure everyone at my local club wouldve :)|pg|| nt|jfaria: @h short, 4@s playing any suit, must protect partner|pg|| nt|jfaria: I mean 4!,..etc|pg|| nt|jfaria: 4@s lol|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d2|pc|d8|pc|dK|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cK|pc|cJ|pc|dT|pg|| nt|jcomyn: WHATTTTTTT|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dA|pc|dQ|pc|cQ|pg|| pg|| qx|o15|st||md|1SJ87HK654DT94CAT5,SAQT542HQJDKCKQ93,SK6H8732DQJ72C876,S93HAT9DA8653CJ42|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1C!|mb|p|mb|1N|nt|xenya: here, NS were able to pinpoint 2 @D losers -- the auction in the other room was entirely different|pg|| mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4D|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h3|nt|dburn: mind you, declarer at the other table didn't seem to realise he had a line for the contract after avoiding a diamond lead|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hK|pc|hJ|pg|| nt|dburn: still, it would not have worked|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dK|pc|d2|pc|dA|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s7|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s8|pc|sT|pc|s6|pg|| pc|sA|pc|c7|pc|d3|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c6|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pg|| pc|d9|pc|s2|pc|d7|pc|d5|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c8|pc|c2|pc|c5|pg|| pc|cQ|mc|10|pg|| qx|c15|st||md|1SJ87HK654DT94CAT5,SAQT542HQJDKCKQ93,SK6H8732DQJ72C876,S93HAT9DA8653CJ42|sv|n|nt|jcomyn: see i can speak scottish as well|pg|| nt|oosmanb: :)|pg|| nt|jr7: same as this play - 1 down :(|pg|| nt|jcomyn: oh yes all the same|pg|| mb|p|nt|mcsd: Hello all|pg|| nt|mamos: Here comes Tarzan again|pg|| nt|oosmanb: @H + minor is the theme of this set |pg|| nt|mamos: a rather feeble Tarzan in this case :)|pg|| mb|1S|nt|mcsd: Am i too late?|pg|| nt|jfaria: hi Miros|pg|| mb|p|nt|jfaria: just a couple of boards :)|pg|| nt|mcsd: Hello Joao |pg|| nt|oosb: 4 top losers here|pg|| nt|oosb: and at the vulnerabilitiy I dont think any South will venture 5@D as a semi-save|pg|| mb|1N|nt|mcsd: but will make 6@c or 6@d|pg|| nt|jcomyn: solid 3nt|pg|| nt|mamos: NS need to settle in 3NT|pg|| mb|p|nt|mcsd: S doesnt realise how stronh is his hand, so passes|pg|| nt|jfaria: W is antecipating a storng balance and tells his story |pg|| mb|2N|nt|jfaria: time to bid 6?|pg|| nt|jcomyn: good slam here|pg|| mb|p|nt|oosb: South does well to bid again|pg|| mb|3C|nt|oosb: I mean North|pg|| nt|jr7: this 4@S cant they play down - I think :)|pg|| mb|p|nt|jcomyn: by the way mike who's wijs muller|pg|| nt|jcomyn: apart from JHohnny that is|pg|| mb|3H|nt|oosb: Good save|pg|| mb|p|nt|jcomyn: all relays i suppose|pg|| nt|jfaria: so it looks|pg|| mb|4S|nt|jcomyn: you never know he might think of something|pg|| mb|p|nt|jfaria: W thrusts the oponents|pg|| nt|oosb: Are you guys also bidding 5@C as north?|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|jcomyn: they sure have a very sophisticated and accurate system|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|jfaria: hard to tell|pg|| nt|jfaria: 3 loosers, home|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d4|nt|mcsd: i would consider opening of 2@C as north :)|pg|| nt|jcomyn: this CANT go down - famous last words|pg|| nt|jr7: from start 1 down - but the lead can maybee give him a possibillety|pg|| pc|dK|pg|| nt|jfaria: or just 2 with @h discard|pg|| pc|sA|nt|mcsd: and you ask me about 5 :):)|pg|| nt|oosb: I think its very aggressive, at the vulnerabililty|pg|| pc|s6|nt|oosb: its the winning action, but if you believe 4@S, he has 3@S 1@H at least to lose|pg|| nt|jcomyn: very droll|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s7|pg|| pc|c3|nt|jfaria: think 5@c was a two way call, maybe defensive, maybe offensive|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hQ|nt|oosb: I'm curious to see if all the other tables get to 6@C|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h9|pg|| nt|jcomyn: SMALL|pg|| nt|jr7: to use fore what?|pg|| nt|jcomyn: fun|pg|| nt|jcomyn: upset your opps they MIGHT go wrong - homer nodded u know|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|s9|pc|s8|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d9|pc|c9|pc|d2|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dT|pc|s4|pc|d7|pg|| mc|11|nt|jfaria: @h trick was an insurance|pg|| nt|jfaria: allowing the overtrick|pg|| pg|| qx|o16|st||md|2S95HAK2DQ64CKT983,SAK82HQ8754D92CQJ,SHJT93DAKJT753C64,SQJT7643H6D8CA752|sv|e|mb|1H|mb|2D|mb|2S|mb|3H|mb|3S|mb|5D|nt|dburn: dangerous deal, this - usually is when both sides can make game|pg|| nt|xenya: 4@S for EW, 5@D for NS...|pg|| nt|dburn: so par is for East to take a save, vulnerable against not|pg|| mb|5S|nt|xenya: well judged|pg|| nt|dburn: and he may well do so, since he can hope to make 5@s a fair amount of the time anyway|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|h3|pc|h6|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d2|pc|dK|pc|d8|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d9|pc|d3|pc|s3|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c16|st||md|2S95HAK2DQ64CKT983,SAK82HQ8754D92CQJ,SHJT93DAKJT753C64,SQJT7643H6D8CA752|sv|e|nt|jcomyn: now this should start a riot|pg|| nt|jr7: :) what will happen here?|pg|| mb|1H|nt|mcsd: Reaching 6@C/@d is not the question, im curious o see how many would save to 6@H|pg|| nt|mamos: 4@s failing on finesse here |pg|| mb|2D|nt|oosb: I think if NS reach 6@C, almost all will save|pg|| nt|jfaria: both are, after 4@h its not easy to bid 6 I think|pg|| mb|2S|nt|jcomyn: 6h one way 6s the other - maybe|pg|| mb|3S|mb|4S|nt|mamos: 2NT presumably shows @s raise|pg|| nt|jfaria: nice war @s vs @d|pg|| mb|5D|nt|jfaria: S with good shape and good colours had to make a move|pg|| mb|p|nt|oosb: 2 tables have played 6@HX already|pg|| nt|oosmanb: good 4 card raise|pg|| nt|jcomyn: x from n might stop them|pg|| nt|jr7: only a @C start will put 6@h down|pg|| mb|p|nt|oosb: 1 ventured 7@C|pg|| mb|5S|nt|jcomyn: yes and who leads a c on this auction|pg|| nt|jfaria: 6 now?|pg|| mb|p|nt|jr7: they will reach 6 @S - east can not stop|pg|| nt|jcomyn: the abbotts opponents thats who|pg|| nt|jcomyn: my 18 is better than your 22|pg|| mb|p|mb|d|nt|oosmanb: -100 for +1 imp|pg|| nt|jr7: Popovas 2@H shows???|pg|| nt|jcomyn: take the money?|pg|| mb|p|nt|mcsd: My type of bidd, mus been opening with 2@c :)|pg|| mb|p|nt|oosmanb: then @d on @C|pg|| mb|p|nt|oosb: Good shift|pg|| nt|jfaria: must guess @c position to win 6|pg|| pc|d4|nt|jr7: @C - good bid from Sementa|pg|| pc|d2|nt|jcomyn: well the laqst bid i would make as n is 2h|pg|| nt|jcomyn: why u take the money|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d8|pg|| nt|mamos: -2 for -2 ?|pg|| nt|oosmanb: all about @C 10 now|pg|| nt|mamos: exactly|pg|| nt|oosmanb: will probably go down 2|pg|| nt|oosmanb: since 9 @C from hand is most convenient|pg|| pc|dA|pc|s7|pc|d6|pc|d9|pg|| nt|jfaria: 1@c looser, next|pg|| nt|oosmanb: or not.|pg|| nt|oosmanb: Well done|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|d7|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s9|pc|sA|pc|d3|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c6|pc|c2|pc|cK|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o17|st||md|3S43HAKDAK542CT976,SQJ762HJT54D9CKQ5,S95H98732D763C842,SAKT8HQ6DQJT8CAJ3|sv|o|mb|p|nt|xenya: very well done by both sides but i have a feeling this won't be a good board for the Chinese team |pg|| mb|1C!|mb|1D|mb|d!|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|xenya: fortunately i was wrong -- same contract and result in the other room|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pc|d9|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h4|nt|dburn: this may be a better result for China|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h6|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h5|pc|h7|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|dK|pc|s2|pc|d6|pc|d8|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c17|st||md|3S43HAKDAK542CT976,SQJ762HJT54D9CKQ5,S95H98732D763C842,SAKT8HQ6DQJT8CAJ3|sv|o|nt|mamos: Spades and Hearts again|pg|| nt|jcomyn: nothing to this one|pg|| nt|jfaria: China needed this swing to even the match|pg|| mb|p|mb|1N|nt|mcsd: on 3nt with previous hand? |pg|| nt|oosmanb: Fun deals this segment|pg|| nt|mamos: again 4@S failing on a finesse|pg|| mb|p|nt|jcomyn: but it is 22-0|pg|| mb|2D|nt|oosb: Running scores at: http://b.poznan2011.pl/mxp/fa.html|pg|| nt|mcsd: what would you lead?|pg|| mb|p|mb|2H|nt|jcomyn: might drop her|pg|| mb|p|nt|oosmanb: WILL drop her, its @C finesse thats off :)|pg|| nt|jcomyn: or him, soory a knave this time|pg|| mb|3H|nt|mamos: sharp double from Rodwell|pg|| nt|mamos: in OR|pg|| mb|p|mb|4C|mb|p|nt|oosb: 3NT was dbled and beaten 3 tricks at one table! Mustve got a @d lead|pg|| nt|oosb: Got a @H lead actually, and then switch at some point|pg|| nt|mcsd: with @H shift :)|pg|| mb|4H|nt|jfaria: DD so far frtom defense|pg|| nt|jfaria: again "systematic" fireworks :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|nt|oosb: yes excellent so far|pg|| nt|mcsd: w must cash @S after wining a trick|pg|| nt|oosmanb: Rodwell probably thought his 4@H was making |pg|| mb|p|nt|jfaria: they will end in 4@s im sure|pg|| mb|p|nt|jcomyn: well thats a new one in open room 4d with a 5-5 s fit|pg|| pc|hK|nt|mcsd: must play 9@S|pg|| pc|h4|nt|mcsd: now doesnt matter|pg|| nt|mamos: NS have to cash|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h6|pg|| nt|jcomyn: i think all this bridge is getting to them|pg|| nt|jfaria: in open there was an hopefull x (hoping to catch 4 tricks?)|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h5|nt|mcsd: e must duck and wait for @H shift|pg|| nt|mcsd: yes as Joay said DD defence|pg|| nt|mcsd: if n plays a@H e should play K@h|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hQ|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o18|st||md|4S865HAJ93DAQ93C94,S92HQ864DJT6CKQJ6,SAKQJ74H5D542CA82,ST3HKT72DK87CT753|sv|n|nt|dburn: since Madala appears to have doubled more in hope than expectation|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|xenya: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswrunda1.html for runnig scores|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2C!|nt|dburn: not quite sure what they mean - if everyone is in the Swiss, what was the point of all those round robins?|pg|| mb|d|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c5|pc|c4|pc|cJ|pc|c2|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s5|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h7|pc|hA|pc|h6|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h4|pc|s4|pc|h2|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c9|pc|c6|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c7|pc|s6|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s9|pc|sK|pc|sT|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|hT|pc|d3|pc|cK|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|dQ|pc|d6|pg|| pc|dA|pc|dT|pc|d4|pc|d8|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h8|pc|s7|pc|hK|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|cT|pc|d9|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dK|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pg|| pg|| qx|c18|st||md|4S865HAJ93DAQ93C94,S92HQ864DJT6CKQJ6,SAKQJ74H5D542CA82,ST3HKT72DK87CT753|sv|n|nt|vugraphpl1: now it's good;) |pg|| nt|jcomyn: coming down to the wire|pg|| nt|jcomyn: italians turning the screw|pg|| mb|p|nt|jfaria: 3 nt|pg|| nt|vugraphpl1: sorry for problem|pg|| nt|jfaria: think Madala doubled reasoning in terms of a non supp on @d plus AK @h|pg|| mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1S|nt|mcsd: hello all|pg|| nt|fabsayc: hi|pg|| mb|p|nt|mcsd: 4@S should be plyed, but may go to 6|pg|| mb|1N|nt|jfaria: all ok for overtricks except 4 @c :)|pg|| nt|mcsd: or even 7|pg|| nt|jcomyn: anyone prefer strong nt on this type of 16-count|pg|| mb|p|nt|mcsd: this auction dictates Major suit lead, as books said|pg|| mb|2D|an|alert|mb|p|nt|jcomyn: this is one contract which WILL NOT CANNOT DEFINITEY wont go down|pg|| mb|2H|nt|oosb: Will probably work on @C |pg|| mb|p|nt|mcsd: but N found safest one|pg|| nt|jcomyn: even definitely|pg|| nt|jcomyn: NEVER DOUBLE without trumps|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|nt|mamos: South has shown his distribution |pg|| nt|mamos: North has relayed twice|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|nt|jcomyn: a rare bird game contract missing AKQ|pg|| mb|4N|nt|jcomyn: was s not the agreed suit or am i missing something again|pg|| mb|p|mb|5H|nt|jfaria: lots of controls, but...|pg|| mb|p|mb|6S|mb|p|nt|mamos: im told 4@d = stop signal and 4@h forced 4@s sign off|pg|| nt|jcomyn: better than hugh mcgann who played 6h early in the week missing AK|pg|| mb|p|nt|jfaria: making the Ace is a safe way to prtect S Q :)|pg|| mb|p|nt|jcomyn: PUSHEEEEE|pg|| pc|d8|nt|jcomyn: and lucky the d finesse is right but.....|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d6|nt|jcomyn: now overtrick|pg|| pc|d2|pg|| nt|mcsd: 4@Sis weakest bidd, 4@D is |pg|| pc|s5|nt|jcomyn: sorry 2|pg|| pc|s2|nt|jcomyn: maybe not|pg|| pc|sA|nt|oosb: unless it gets singleton Q from pd :)|pg|| nt|oosb: I think safest is to let Jack ride :)|pg|| nt|jfaria: playing on @s will avoid @h finesse|pg|| pc|s3|pg|| nt|mcsd: Posible bidd|pg|| nt|jfaria: thinking of 2@d as GF cb, 4@s should warn N the slam must be poor|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sT|pc|s6|pc|s9|pg|| nt|jcomyn: and this effectively ends the match|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d7|nt|jfaria: forgot singleton !q , that would be very sad indeed|pg|| nt|jfaria: and defence is not likely to easy declarer's task |pg|| pc|d3|nt|oosb: 6 pairs made 3NT + 2 for 76% .. 3NT +1 worth only 23% |pg|| pc|dJ|pg|| pc|cK|nt|jcomyn: not with this pair anywsay|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c4|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|dT|pg|| pc|d9|pc|c6|pc|c8|pc|c5|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|h5|pc|h2|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h6|pc|sQ|pc|h7|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o19|st||md|1SA7HQJ95DJT87CJT9,SQT643HDKQ2CAQ432,SJHKT8763DA65C765,SK9852HA42D943CK8|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|2H|mb|4S|mb|5H|mb|5S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h6|nt|xenya: again, well bid by both sides it seems|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hJ|pc|s3|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d9|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d3|pc|d7|pc|dQ|pg|| mc|11|nt|xenya: that's it|pg|| pg|| qx|c19|st||md|1SA7HQJ95DJT87CJT9,SQT643HDKQ2CAQ432,SJHKT8763DA65C765,SK9852HA42D943CK8|sv|e|nt|oosb: 16 opposite 14|pg|| nt|oosb: but 2 aces missing and @s 4-1, so best spot is 4@S,|pg|| nt|oosb: But @c ruffs involved|pg|| nt|mamos: one pair at least have bid 6@s on these cards :) even better John :)|pg|| nt|oosmanb: gambling 3NT opening in other room|pg|| nt|jcomyn: I like 1NT - 2H- 2S-3H-3nt simple game|pg|| mb|p|nt|jfaria: 3nt?|pg|| nt|oosb: 3NT|pg|| nt|mamos: Yes John and that got 3NT wrong-sided|pg|| mb|1S|nt|oosb: you're right|pg|| mb|p|nt|jcomyn: and no chance of italians going wrong|pg|| mb|2C|nt|jcomyn: oh well its a hard life|pg|| mb|p|nt|jfaria: easy looking at 4 hands :)|pg|| nt|jfaria: some marry-go-round but 2 aces missing, so...|pg|| mb|4C|nt|oosb: Sorry I was thinking they might be interested in @S slam, so end up in 4@S|pg|| nt|oosb: double dummy 3NT is best|pg|| nt|jfaria: almost sure|pg|| nt|mamos: I hate 3nT on this those two Queensmight be significant |pg|| mb|p|nt|jcomyn: thats a good description of a mormon wedding|pg|| mb|4H|nt|mcsd: 1nt-3nt (stayman possivble), bidding|pg|| mb|p|nt|jfaria: wish I knew if Duboin already knows about th udge @s fit|pg|| nt|jcomyn: anyway that'll soften his cough|pg|| mb|5C|nt|fabsayc: could bid 3@S as forcing heart raise|pg|| mb|p|nt|mcsd: s propb ably asking him self why did i assk 2@C in the first place|pg|| nt|mamos: and 3NT right-sided now|pg|| nt|oosmanb: Meck did well to lead @C honour by the way|pg|| nt|mamos: Why 3NT ? you have the values for 1@d|pg|| mb|5S|nt|jfaria: 10 tricks in Nt|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|fabsayc: and north continues 3nt to show 4333, south passes|pg|| nt|mcsd: that is why he should bidd 3nt imidiately|pg|| mb|p|nt|jfaria: same in @s it seems|pg|| nt|mcsd: defenders now have some informatio|pg|| nt|jfaria: now he knows :)|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hA|pc|h5|nt|fabsayc: what is wrong with this auction|pg|| pc|d2|pg|| nt|mcsd: 4333?|pg|| nt|jcomyn: anyone know what 2d is|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s7|nt|fabsayc: the info is not likely to help them|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|mcsd: o boith sides|pg|| nt|mcsd: late Reese, was against it so om from that school. |pg|| pc|sJ|pg|| pc|c2|nt|oosb: yeah 2 @S tricks and 1@C for defence|pg|| pc|c5|nt|jr7: next play :)|pg|| nt|jcomyn: all very clever - as usual|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c9|pg|| pc|c8|nt|oosmanb: overtricks now|pg|| nt|jcomyn: thats why such a good idea to pre-empth only when u have nothing outside|pg|| pc|cT|nt|jr7: 2@D is "reverse" in DK - color + ekstra HP|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c6|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|oosmanb: Guys is everyone leading Q@C/J@C?|pg|| nt|jcomyn: me one|pg|| pc|c7|pc|d3|nt|mcsd: it is nothing wrong in the auction, but it is not my style.|pg|| pc|cJ|pg|| nt|jfaria: maybe , plying MP Ivanov could delay his decision about what game to play...|pg|| pc|c4|pc|h8|pc|d4|nt|jcomyn: although tempting to lead a s|pg|| pc|sA|pg|| nt|fabsayc: see the still got it wrong|pg|| mc|11|nt|oosb: Yes|pg|| pg|| qx|o20|st||md|2SK3HQJT52DQ8743C3,SQ96HA876DAKCQJ76,SJT82HKDT9652CKT2,SA754H943DJCA9854|sv|b|nt|vugraphplE: This is a last board|pg|| nt|xenya: time flies|pg|| mb|1C!|mb|p|mb|2C!|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d6|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pg|| nt|xenya: this seems to have no chance on the natural @D lead|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c3|pg|| pc|c4|pc|h2|pc|c7|pc|cT|pg|| pc|d2|nt|xenya: but 3N is quite normal here |pg|| pc|h3|pc|d7|pc|dA|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|c6|pc|s2|pc|c8|pc|h5|pg|| pc|c9|pc|d3|pc|h6|pc|s8|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hT|pc|hA|pc|hK|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sT|pc|sA|pc|s3|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hJ|pc|h7|pc|d5|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s9|pc|sJ|pc|s4|pg|| pc|d4|pc|h8|pc|d9|pc|s5|pg|| pc|dT|pc|s7|pc|d8|pc|sQ|pg|| nt|xenya: thanks everyone|pg|| nt|xenya: bye for now|pg|| nt|vugraphplE: Thanks all|pg|| pg|| qx|c20|st||md|2SK3HQJT52DQ8743C3,SQ96HA876DAKCQJ76,SJT82HKDT9652CKT2,SA754H943DJCA9854|sv|b|nt|oosb: fun hand|pg|| nt|fabsayc: defense with knowledge of 4333 should continue club when diamond ducked|pg|| nt|fabsayc: but they did not :)|pg|| nt|oosmanb: ALOT of tables opened 3NT as East|pg|| nt|bjacobs: wouldn't matter would it?|pg|| nt|jfaria: last hand now|pg|| mb|1N|nt|jcomyn: last bd will probably be flat|pg|| mb|p|nt|fabsayc: in fact he should have returned spade trick 2, then declarer has no chance|pg|| nt|mamos: Oosman makes an interesting point -- but against gambling 3NT defence needs to win tricks quickly or contract will make almost certainly|pg|| nt|jcomyn: not to mention right-siding it|pg|| mb|2C|nt|jcomyn: 9+9 = game??|pg|| mb|p|nt|oosmanb: Infact 17 tables had Q@C led against 3NT from East (so far)|pg|| mb|2H|nt|jfaria: must be @h|pg|| nt|mcsd: so the 4@H goes down 2, nowhere to discard anything|pg|| mb|p|nt|jfaria: now a cue from W asking 4 a @h stopper|pg|| nt|oosmanb: and 13 led 4th highest @C !|pg|| nt|jcomyn: well that i will never lead|pg|| nt|oosmanb: Which also means that 30 tables opened 3NT as EAST!|pg|| mb|3D|nt|mcsd: e-w may get too high on this hand|pg|| nt|jfaria: @s|pg|| mb|p|nt|mcsd: sorry -1, i counted @H for 2 loosers|pg|| nt|jfaria: think chineese team has mostly to complain about wrong choices... Sementa & Duboin colected|pg|| mb|3H|nt|jcomyn: more like a poker classic|pg|| mb|p|mb|3S|nt|mcsd: there is a possibility of makinh 6@D|pg|| mb|p|mb|4C|nt|jcomyn: wonder what happens if he does not have h|pg|| nt|jcomyn: easdt|pg|| nt|jfaria: 24 imps in 2 very hugly slams is too much in a short match|pg|| mb|p|nt|bjacobs: On a low club, anyone make? Could declarer reason: "they always lead aces against gambling 3NT, so he doesn't have @CA, so I play low from dummy"?|pg|| nt|oosmanb: most interesting though, is that 3-4 declarers played 10@c on small @C lead!|pg|| nt|oosmanb: that's some read.!|pg|| mb|5C|nt|jfaria: strange, was expecting last round to be reversed|pg|| mb|p|nt|jfaria: meaning 3@s from W and 3nt by E|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|jfaria: but maybe 3@s would accept @h ...|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|jcomyn: lot of work|pg|| pc|hA|pc|hK|pc|h4|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|dJ|pc|d3|pg|| nt|jcomyn: ropey 3nt i suppose|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|h3|nt|bigtrain: 10 is clear imo.... generally speaking an ace is lead if held vs gambling 3NT|pg|| nt|bjacobs: Ah, answers my question - but it has a lot of logic in a top-class field|pg|| pc|d4|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|mcsd: good play ny ivanov|pg|| nt|jfaria: 3nt +3 is worth a fortune!|pg|| nt|mcsd: and atop so far|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c3|pg|| pc|c9|pc|d8|pc|cJ|pc|c2|pg|| nt|jcomyn: pre-empted out of the h fit|pg|| nt|vugraphpl1: see you|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cT|pc|c5|pc|h2|pg|| nt|jfaria: why did D /S choose the minor game, i dont know|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s4|pc|sK|pc|s6|pg|| nt|jcomyn: only fit they had i daresay|pg|| mc|10|nt|jcomyn: thanks joao|pg|| nt|jfaria: why not nt?|pg|| nt|jcomyn: want to ask them fellas|pg|| nt|jfaria: thx all 4 watching and my fellow commentator , thx all|pg|| nt|jcomyn: tx kibs and operator well done|pg|| pg||