vg|B EC 2011 Open Teams RR _,3_7,I,21,30,Kamil,0,WhiteHouse,0|
rs|3DN+2,3HE-3,3NN+2,6NN=,2SE-2,3DW-2,3SN-1,3SN=,4SS+1,4SN+2,2NW-2,2SE-1,2SW-1,2SW-1,6CN=,6CN=,2SW=,3NE-1,3NS-1,3NS-1|
pn|Weinstein,Schollaard,Kamil,Wortel,Molenaar,Amoils,Verbeek,Hurd|pg||
qx|o21|st||md|3SAQ2HT9DQ9874CQ83,ST763HKQ42DT5CT74,S85HJ53DAJ632CAK5,SKJ94HA876DKCJ962|sv|n|mb|1D|mb|d|mb|2N!|nt|eggy: Hi everyone|pg||
mb|p|nt|eggy: Live standings are on http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/orrleaderb.html|pg||
nt|roswolf: hi all|pg||
mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3D|nt|roswolf: well if you are psychic and find the diamond k then 3nt is on ice|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|eggy: Which you may do if EW start with hearts I suppose|pg||
pc|s4|nt|roswolf: this is safe - a solid usa type contract|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|sT|pc|s5|pg||
nt|roswolf: hi steve|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d5|pc|dA|pc|dK|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|c21|st||md|3SAQ2HT9DQ9874CQ83,ST763HKQ42DT5CT74,S85HJ53DAJ632CAK5,SKJ94HA876DKCJ962|sv|n|nt|peachy: team names are not right, but I guess we'll get there|pg||
mb|1D|nt|granguru:  HI|pg||
mb|d|mb|2S|nt|pelu: hi|pg||
mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|nt|paulg:  Results for the first match in the round-robin can be seen at http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/orrleaderb.html|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|d4|pc|d5|nt|granguru:  finally we got to a std 3NT|pg||
nt|pelu: all card well placed = 12 tricks|pg||
pc|dA|pc|dK|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s4|pc|sQ|pc|s3|pg||
pc|sA|nt|pelu: also 3Nt in OR|pg||
pc|s6|nt|granguru:  funnily if  opens the hand (1N) there is a good chance to arrive at 6@C|pg||
nt|paulg:  could be worth a couple of imps if it is played by West in the other room|pg||
pc|s8|pc|s9|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s7|pc|h3|pc|sJ|pg||
nt|peachy: This will slide a couple off, but small gain for EW anyway, undoubled|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c2|pc|cQ|pc|c4|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|dT|pc|d2|pc|h6|pg||
nt|granguru:  but thaa|pg||
nt|henryb:  looks like -3 to me for a push the hard way|pg||
nt|peachy: push, actually, I forgot the spade ruff|pg||
mc|6|pg||
qx|o22|st||md|4SAT3H932DQJ7CA973,SQ52HJ654DT4CQ842,SK986HAQT8DAK8CK5,SJ74HK7D96532CJT6|sv|e|nt|eggy: no pressure in 3D of course, he may not have done as well in 3NT :)|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|2N|nt|roswolf: another 3nt!?|pg||
mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|roswolf: wonder what the range is theorectically - 20-22!? if so south should make a try|pg||
pc|d2|nt|eggy: not that convinced with 4333, but perhaps they play a tighter  range anyway|pg||
nt|bigtrain: doubt its 20-22...  more likely 20-21|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d4|pc|d8|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|hT|pc|hK|pg||
nt|roswolf: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/orrleaderb.html is the site for running scores and team details|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d7|pc|dT|pc|dA|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|h9|pc|h5|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s4|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h6|pc|h8|pc|d6|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|d3|pc|c3|pc|hJ|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s7|pc|s3|pc|s5|pg||
pc|s8|pc|sJ|pc|sT|pc|sQ|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|c22|st||md|4SAT3H932DQJ7CA973,SQ52HJ654DT4CQ842,SK986HAQT8DAK8CK5,SJ74HK7D96532CJT6|sv|e|nt|granguru:  not a good slam |pg||
nt|granguru:  another potential slam here|pg||
nt|granguru:  a better one thou|pg||
nt|pelu: only need to play @s-siut with no loser|pg||
nt|granguru:  still it  needs @s 2-2 or stiff honor in E and a good guess|pg||
nt|granguru:  hi all|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|pelu: Hi all - as every time there are problems before the first match - players has to find the right table and so on|pg||
mb|1C|an| |nt|pelu: not with odds - but better that a "Roland-slam"|pg||
mb|p|nt|paulg:  Pleased to see that South has a name, but I think I'll stick with 'South'|pg||
nt|granguru:  exchange black QÂ´s and it would have been a rock iron contract|pg||
mb|1S|an| |nt|pelu: we begin with a possible slam|pg||
mb|p|nt|pelu: Rodwell did open the N hand with 1NT???|pg||
mb|2N|an| |nt|peachy: Hi John|pg||
mb|p|nt|granguru:  I would have done it if @CK|pg||
nt|paulg:  i think many in the field will bid this one|pg||
mb|3D|mb|p|nt|granguru:  NICE TO see u again Raija |pg||
nt|granguru:  11 tricks|pg||
nt|peachy: Convention cards are not available so unfprtunately we cannot explain bidding|pg||
nt|granguru:  at NT or any Moysean|pg||
mb|3H|mb|p|nt|pelu: and I would open 1@D 100% (=4+@d)|pg||
nt|paulg:  North has distribution and they have a lot of controls|pg||
nt|granguru:  4@C cue X @Cs|pg||
nt|granguru:  N could have xx to show second round ctrl|pg||
nt|pelu: when N open 1Nt then Meckstroth has no slam ambitions|pg||
nt|pelu: RD = 1. round control|pg||
nt|granguru:  but then it is more complicate to show @d ctrls|pg||
nt|granguru:  RD is second if 4@C was first|pg||
mb|4N|mb|p|nt|pelu: @H-lead - 2x@s and @C finess|pg||
mb|6D|nt|pelu: ok that makes life easyer for dsecl|pg||
mb|p|nt|granguru:  If I would be forced to guess  1@C strong 1@S=4 ctrls 2N nat 19-21 3@D @C ctrl no @D ctrl|pg||
mb|6N|mb|p|nt|paulg:  It is much easier for us, but can South have less than this to make a slam try with no heart control?|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|peachy: lots of work in 6NT, not impossible I think, but rather aggressive|pg||
nt|granguru:  a passive lead is a must here|pg||
nt|peachy: I'm thinking E will lead club, that would be my choice|pg||
nt|granguru:  it seems 3@d was nat as N went on to 6@d|pg||
nt|peachy: but I am not in Hurd's class of player so we'll see|pg||
nt|granguru:  most passive is @D|pg||
nt|granguru:  the @D10 is a critical card (not here thou) so W has 4 critical suits|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|sQ|nt|granguru:  N S expects that @S dont behave...|pg||
pc|sK|pg||
nt|pelu: do u know players where cuebid are 1. control - to day 1. or 2.? back in the 50'es in US they only cuebid Aces - and lost to Italy every time :)|pg||
nt|peachy: that would have been my last choice of leads, Jxx nearly never right|pg||
nt|granguru:  I am wrong E leads|pg||
pc|s6|nt|granguru:  E has a clear @d lead|pg||
pc|s7|pc|sT|pc|s2|pg||
pc|h9|pc|h4|nt|peachy: perhaps there is something in the bidding that we are not privvy to, which induced the spade lead|pg||
pc|h8|nt|granguru:  :) true|pg||
nt|granguru:  second choice was @CJ|pg||
nt|granguru:  immo|pg||
pc|hK|pg||
nt|granguru:  MADE|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s8|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|hA|pc|h7|pg||
pc|s9|pc|d6|pc|c3|pc|d4|pg||
nt|mcsd: Hello all|pg||
nt|granguru:  my grandma teached me to lead pasive vs 6NT some 45 years ago|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|dT|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d3|pc|dJ|nt|granguru:  it is stil valid today|pg||
pc|h6|pg||
nt|granguru:  still*|pg||
pc|d8|pc|d5|pc|dQ|pc|c2|pg||
pc|h3|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|nt|granguru:  instead of winning 13 Kamil is going to lose 13...a 26 IMPs swing|pg||
mc|12|pg||
qx|o23|st||md|1SAJ85HAT965DTCAQ6,S6HKQJ4DKQJ54CJT4,S972H832DA973C872,SKQT43H7D862CK953|sv|b|mb|2D!|nt|roswolf: this is a bits and pieces bd|pg||
mb|d|nt|roswolf: the dreaded flannery!?|pg||
mb|2H!|nt|henryb:  Shows 11-15 and 4@s, 5+@h|pg||
nt|bigtrain: steve weinstein loves Flannery and he has obviously infected Michael|pg||
mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|roswolf: east although a lady is truly fearless|pg||
mb|p|nt|roswolf: dummy is a disappointment|pg||
pc|dT|nt|henryb:  Obviously Wortel suffers from the same problem against Flannery that so many Americans suffer against Multi: the feeling that you are getting robbed gets you to bid on at best marginal hands|pg||
pc|dK|nt|roswolf: good comment henry|pg||
nt|eggy: well if x shows diamonds, surely you are worth a bid aren't you Henry?|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d6|pg||
pc|c8|nt|eggy: though perhaps not 2S|pg||
pc|c5|pc|cQ|pc|c4|pg||
nt|henryb:  Ben Thompson wrote on Bridge Winners: First double shows cards, second double is takeout, third and later are penalty. Don't bid on marginal hands. Either you will get another chance or it doesn't much matter|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|h3|pc|h7|pg||
pc|cA|pc|cT|pc|c2|nt|eggy: which I would have thought should be an UQB|pg||
pc|c9|pg||
pc|c6|pc|cJ|pc|c7|pc|c3|pg||
nt|henryb:  Yes, I was more referring to the first double|pg||
nt|roswolf: well i would play x as a general t/o withh at least 4 diamonds and 2@S as constuctive natural - therefore i think west is wrong to pass with a singleton spade|pg||
nt|henryb:  Which should show cards, not diamonds|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s7|pc|sT|pc|sJ|pg||
pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|h8|pc|s3|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s5|pc|d4|pc|s2|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s8|pc|d5|pc|s9|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d2|pc|h6|pc|dJ|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h2|pc|cK|pc|h9|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|d3|pc|d8|pc|hT|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d9|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg||
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qx|c23|st||md|1SAJ85HAT965DTCAQ6,S6HKQJ4DKQJ54CJT4,S972H832DA973C872,SKQT43H7D862CK953|sv|b|nt|rcerreto:  here we are again|pg||
nt|brolucius: Jeffrey Allerton and Frances Hinden (who is playing at the other table) are a couple, and have won the prestigious Gold Cup (Britain's top knock-out) together.|pg||
nt|brolucius: So far as I know, Hinden has never played women's bridge. She is a top executive for an oil company.|pg||
nt|ralfwil: what do we know about their systems?|pg||
nt|brolucius: E/W were playing straightforward stuff against Russia. I assume that the French play the standard French system, near enough. It will be good kibitzing.|pg||
nt|granguru:  but it is a good idea that the very first control is A (or KQ)|pg||
nt|pelu: no|pg||
nt|granguru:  not vul sorry only 22!|pg||
mb|1H|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2S|nt|granguru:  would like to hear your arguments...I am open minded :)|pg||
mb|p|mb|2N|nt|granguru:  kibz might enjoy an expert view on the matter|pg||
nt|paulg:  I don't think cue bidding first and second round controls equally makes a huge difference to bidding slams, a lot of it still comes down to judgement|pg||
mb|p|nt|paulg:  i think the italians beat the americans so often because they had practised partnerships and better bidding methods|pg||
nt|granguru:  being an  expensive deparment players try to reduce judgement and increase accuracy|pg||
nt|granguru:  good advice...on all contracts under 6NT|pg||
mb|3D|mb|p|nt|granguru:  agree paul|pg||
nt|paulg:  this hand has another debatable point .. how do you break transfers?|pg||
nt|pelu: too difficult to start a cue bid if only A, a cue is an invitation for slam and often u will miss that - and bidding economy also tell u to start with the lovers cue bid|pg||
mb|p|nt|brolucius: Since there were so many small boards in the first half, I was hoping that all the spectacular stuff had been saved for the second half. False hopes...|pg||
nt|granguru:  from 6NT on the strategy changes|pg||
mb|p|nt|Walddk5: Welcome to Murat|pg||
nt|MolvaM: hello everyone :)|pg||
nt|pelu: 5 toptricks for defense, but not easy to take them|pg||
nt|paulg:  i dislike showing a weak doubleton and telling them what to lead|pg||
nt|granguru:  at top level players almost always lead the right card|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h7|nt|granguru:  so it is better to bid accurately|pg||
pc|hA|nt|brolucius: East has found a strong lead.|pg||
pc|h4|pg||
nt|pelu: now 7 tricks for Tokay|pg||
nt|pelu: prob 3@C dont show about @Cs but only maxz and 3 card support|pg||
nt|paulg:  but i approve of breaking the transfer with only 3-card support, when you are so suitable|pg||
nt|granguru:  once hamman erred a gran slam lead...20 years the hand was appearing in the news|pg||
nt|peachy: running scores Round 3 (this round) http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/orrrunda3.html|pg||
pc|dT|nt|granguru:  And he used Judgement..with 2 aces he led the shortest one..(wrong)|pg||
pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d2|pg||
nt|MolvaM: running a long suit usually creates problems for the defence|pg||
pc|c8|pc|c3|pc|cQ|nt|brolucius: Now a club ruff will beat it.|pg||
nt|ralfwil: -1 with best defence. a @c switch now|pg||
nt|rcerreto:  @h9 ?|pg||
nt|rcerreto:  looks to ask for @d|pg||
nt|brolucius: Failing that, a trump misguess by declarer.|pg||
nt|ralfwil: and in that case possibilities to -2|pg||
nt|rcerreto:  E isn't willing to ask for a @c switch, not knowing what partner has in @c I think|pg||
nt|brolucius: South was declarer, after a transfer response to 1@C, at the other table.|pg||
nt|brolucius: We thought, in the match against Russia, that they seemed to be playing reverse suit-preference. So, maybe she has asked for a club.|pg||
nt|ralfwil: But if there is any possibility to defeat, it must be a @c ruff by E. Declarer can have @sKQJ|pg||
nt|pelu: in CR EW missed the defense against 4@S - played by S: @H to K, @D to A Now @CK to A, @S to 8 and Q, @CJ to Q - but not @C again|pg||
pc|c4|pg||
nt|pelu: now 9|pg||
pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|h3|nt|pelu: well played by W - he set up a trap - and N fall in|pg||
nt|MolvaM: and looking happily for the 10th|pg||
pc|s3|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d3|pc|d6|nt|granguru:  looks that there is no way to win...no entry to dummy|pg||
nt|granguru:  @DK ?|pg||
nt|peachy: There are 15 groups of 8 teams each, the top three (I think) will advance to the Swiss, from where top teams advance to KO etc|pg||
pc|h6|pg||
nt|granguru:  what about small @d ?|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c2|nt|peachy: from each group|pg||
pc|c5|nt|brolucius: So the chance is missed.|pg||
pc|cA|pg||
nt|brolucius: Ralf's analysis is good. It does seem that a club switch was indicated.|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|s9|pc|s4|pg||
nt|granguru:  at 6NT the reason is not to give the 12th trick ...normally declarer coudnt find a suit to play...so usually no long suit..if 12 tricks there, there is nothing to lose...but if just 11 you must be carefull not to give 1 trick on the lead.|pg||
pc|c6|pc|cT|pc|c7|nt|granguru:  ans @s finesse--not @C|pg||
pc|cK|pg||
mc|7|pg||
qx|o24|st||md|2SKQJ5HA52D92C7642,S986HJT6D87CQ9853,SA7432H973DKQ63CK,STHKQ84DAJT54CAJT|sv|o|nt|roswolf: on 22 the dutch n/s bid to 6nt and made it on a helpful @Slead|pg||
nt|eggy: Well it looks like West thought he was showing diamonds anyway ..|pg||
mb|p|mb|1S|mb|d|mb|2N!|mb|p|nt|eggy: I suppose that is possible that they forgot to check what 2D meant and thought it was a multi?|pg||
nt|roswolf: all very classic thus far|pg||
mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|roswolf: americans dont play the multi much - never assume|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|roswolf: not having discussed a defence to flannery is more likely|pg||
nt|henryb:  2N = Lim Raise or better in support of @s, known varioulsy as Truscott or Jordan depending on where you grew up and hw old you are|pg||
pc|h2|pc|hJ|pc|h3|pg||
nt|roswolf: or just acol (strong raise) to us brits|pg||
pc|h4|pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|h9|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pg||
nt|henryb:  That is the second 6N I have seen given away by a lead from @SJxx this week|pg||
nt|Walddk3: Welcome to Han Peters|pg||
pc|h8|pc|h5|pc|hT|pc|h7|pg||
pc|c3|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c2|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c4|pc|c5|nt|han: thanks Roland|pg||
pc|s2|pg||
nt|henryb:  I think declarer can't quite handle 5-2 @d and 3-1 @s|pg||
pc|s3|pc|sT|pc|sK|pc|s6|pg||
nt|bigtrain: dummy reversaal works doesn't it?|pg||
nt|han: declarer lacks the communication to ruff 2 clubs in his hand and not lose a trump trick|pg||
nt|eggy: frsutrating isn't it?|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s8|pc|s4|nt|roswolf: just bridge and life in general i think|pg||
pc|hK|pg||
pc|d9|pc|d8|pc|dK|nt|eggy: The entry position gives West a trump promotion|pg||
pc|d4|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|s5|nt|bigtrain: it works|pg||
pc|s9|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|c24|st||md|2SKQJ5HA52D92C7642,S986HJT6D87CQ9853,SA7432H973DKQ63CK,STHKQ84DAJT54CAJT|sv|o|nt|paulg:  it was very tricky and I'm not sure he ever saw a line to make it. As I was struggling seeing all the hands, I'm not surprised really.|pg||
nt|granguru:  garozzo had another saying..when you have a singleton, lead it...|pg||
nt|granguru:  obviously at suit contracts|pg||
nt|peachy: It is one of his famous "Rules"|pg||
nt|granguru:  in general, it made life easier for the defense...if you didnt lead a singleton..you didnt have it...|pg||
nt|peachy: Another one of Garozzo's: "Must have a very good reason for not leading trump"|pg||
mb|p|mb|1S|mb|d|nt|rcerreto:  openings are getting lighter and lighter, these days|pg||
nt|paulg:  his line did have a lot of play|pg||
mb|2N|nt|granguru:  well if @H behave he could have made it..but that would have mean @S were also 1-1 and the line should have been different|pg||
mb|p|mb|3S|nt|pelu: top-players dont like the @d-suit :)|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|rcerreto:  tough lead|pg||
nt|rcerreto:  nothing appeals, @d looks normal|pg||
nt|MolvaM: I know about 3700 people who would bid 2nt with east hand|pg||
nt|granguru:  as I said at the beginning ..probably @S finesse instead of a @C|pg||
mb|p|nt|pelu: Mahaffey won the first match 17-13 against a team from Romania (with Bocchi-Maddala!?), Aspe lost 10-20 to a strong team from England|pg||
nt|granguru:  panski plays 4@H here|pg||
pc|sT|nt|rcerreto:  leading the longest suit is always an option|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s6|nt|paulg:  Bocchi-Madala are playing for Lavazza in another group, whatever the results page says|pg||
nt|vugraphplb: there is a little misunderstanding after explanation|pg||
pc|s2|pg||
pc|d2|nt|vugraphplb: we have to wait for director decision in board 22|pg||
pc|d7|nt|rcerreto:  David, would you lead small or an honour?|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|dA|pg||
nt|pelu: if 1Nt = 12-14 I know as mynu who would pass - 12-14 + 10 = 22-24 and no spec fit|pg||
nt|Walddk5: Welcome to our second Murat, Anter|pg||
pc|d4|nt|MolvaM: the results page is here http://www.poznan2011.pl/results but since the event just started there is nothing in so far|pg||
pc|d9|nt|granguru:  madala's father was the greatest VUGRAPH comentator of all times...a full show|pg||
pc|d8|pc|dK|pg||
pc|cK|nt|granguru:  bridge rama at the time|pg||
pc|cA|nt|rcerreto:  Ralf?|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c9|pg||
nt|dburn: I guess I would lead low - some danger of a blockage if partner has @dJx, for example|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c4|nt|brolucius: I am in the middle of writing a book that involves computer analysis of opening leads. We have found that leading the top honour is generally right.|pg||
pc|c3|pc|s3|pg||
nt|granguru:  .|pg||
nt|granguru:  In board 22 the 3@D bid inhibited Hurd to lead the suit|pg||
nt|granguru:  now claiming, for sure|pg||
pc|h9|pc|h4|nt|brolucius: More often than the old text-books suggest.|pg||
pc|h2|pc|hT|pg||
nt|ralfwil: an honour, if dummy has a middle @d|pg||
nt|rcerreto:  computer analysis could change several paradigms|pg||
pc|s8|nt|MolvaM: 3nt could be reached on this board in the open room|pg||
nt|paulg:  i'm sure they'll fix the team lineups on the results pages quickly, they have been very efficient|pg||
nt|granguru:  as for garozzo's saying ..it must have been under specific circumstsnces...such as a 7-level suit contract, or 2. a cross-ruff hand type|pg||
pc|sA|pc|h8|pc|s5|pg||
pc|h3|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|h6|pg||
pc|c6|pc|cQ|pc|s4|pc|cT|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|sJ|pc|c5|pg||
pc|c7|pc|c8|nt|dburn: this game doesn't have to be bid at the other table|pg||
pc|s7|nt|granguru:  that is unfitted hands or semifitted hands and not much total strenght|pg||
pc|dT|pg||
pc|d6|pc|dJ|pc|sQ|pc|hJ|pg||
pc|h5|pc|s9|pc|h7|pc|hK|pg||
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qx|o25|st||md|3SAKJ974HT2D4CK743,STHQ63DAQT75CQT65,SQ2HA87DJ962CAJ82,S8653HKJ954DK83C9|sv|e|mb|1C|mb|1H|mb|1S|mb|2N!|nt|han: Weinstein - Kamil are not a regular partnership as far as I know, does anybody know how often they play together?|pg||
mb|p|mb|3H|nt|henryb:  Rarely, but old friends and teammates|pg||
nt|bigtrain: ruff @C - cash @DK - ruff @D high (W west can't make a pitch that hurts) - ruff @C - ruff @D high - trump ace|pg||
mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h3|nt|roswolf: this looks straightforward|pg||
nt|henryb:  no good, you have promoted the @s9 with two high @d ruffs|pg||
nt|han: I believe bigtrain is correct, west's trump doesn't get promoted as he has to underruff at trick 12|pg||
pc|h7|pc|hK|pc|hT|pg||
nt|bigtrain: for sure it works...  W underruffs the penultimate trick and follows the last trick|pg||
nt|henryb:  Its a 7 card end position|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 6|pg||
nt|bigtrain: QJx/-/x/xx opp Axx/-/Kxx/-|pg||
nt|han: I thought that 2NT by west showed 4-card support, either they play something else or Schollaardt decided to sell his shapely hand as 4-card support|pg||
nt|han: I'm looking at their write up, it seems that 2NT was indeed invitational with 4-card support|pg||
pc|h9|pc|h2|pc|h6|pc|hA|pg||
nt|henryb:  So, I am looking at the position|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s3|pc|s4|pc|sT|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|sJ|pc|d5|pg||
pc|sA|nt|eggy: meanwhile, apart from playing the clubs to max for 1 losers, this looks straightforward|pg||
nt|henryb:  You are right|pg||
nt|eggy: S will play a club to the Ace intending to play back to the 7 should West play 9 or T|pg||
nt|han: I am not sure south should do that after seeing east holding 4 spades and 5 hearts|pg||
nt|han: almost impossible for east to hold 4 clubs as well|pg||
nt|roswolf: fair comment|pg||
nt|han: in the meantime, it gives away a trick if the clubs are as they are|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|d2|pc|s5|pg||
pc|sK|nt|dburn: may well place West with four clubs rather than six diamonds - 2NT would be a bit odd with 1=3=6=3|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d6|pc|s8|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c5|pc|c2|pc|c9|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c6|pc|c8|pc|d3|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|c25|st||md|3SAKJ974HT2D4CK743,STHQ63DAQT75CQT65,SQ2HA87DJ962CAJ82,S8653HKJ954DK83C9|sv|e|nt|brolucius: We did not mention that Cronier's 3NT was rather bold. Most would bid 2NT and a (very) few might bid 1NT.|pg||
nt|rcerreto:  true|pg||
nt|rcerreto:  well judged|pg||
nt|ralfwil: but he needed @dJ on dummy|pg||
nt|granguru:  or 3. very low level, doubled contracts|pg||
mb|1C|an| |mb|p|mb|1H|an| |nt|pelu: ok NS play transfer over 1@c|pg||
mb|p|nt|rcerreto:  that's why she bid 3 :)|pg||
nt|brolucius: Maybe 2@D?|pg||
mb|1S|an| |nt|ralfwil: how many @s from W? I vote for 3@s|pg||
nt|paulg:  i expect double shows the majors|pg||
nt|pelu: nice play to get 7 tricks in 2@c|pg||
nt|peachy: There certainly are very good reasons not to lead trump, but if one cant find one, then...trump|pg||
nt|granguru:  aaah yes|pg||
mb|p|nt|rcerreto:  a good partner has the J|pg||
mb|4S|nt|rcerreto:  oops, sorry|pg||
nt|rcerreto:  he bid|pg||
nt|ralfwil: anyone with me?|pg||
nt|rcerreto:  with 2@d?|pg||
nt|brolucius: Closer to 3@S than 1@S, perhaps.|pg||
nt|rcerreto:  1@s looks a little timid to me|pg||
nt|pelu: strange take out X by Baldurson|pg||
mb|p|nt|ralfwil: a 6-card suit @hK and a stiff @d|pg||
nt|brolucius: Spade game needs to be bid.|pg||
nt|rcerreto:  good sacrifice in 5@d|pg||
nt|MolvaM: so 1@s probably shows 3 card spades?|pg||
nt|pelu: sorry - prob support x in @H|pg||
mb|p|nt|brolucius: I don't know that 1@H was right when East had indicated the majors.|pg||
nt|rcerreto:  maybe it was also meant to show real @c|pg||
nt|rcerreto:  unsure though|pg||
nt|ralfwil: 3@h is for me a strong 3@s rise and an invite to 4@s|pg||
nt|MolvaM: and baldurson dbl is kind of a support dbl?|pg||
nt|pelu: ok he was down 2 - but recived a gift|pg||
mb|p|nt|brolucius: Allerton may have misread 3@H but East can correct.|pg||
nt|brolucius: Anyway, this is the sort of board we were looking for, after so much drab stuff.|pg||
nt|rcerreto:  he has a pretty good hand, in context|pg||
nt|ralfwil: but you agree with the strong rise David?|pg||
pc|c9|nt|granguru:  under this premise I agree fully..the same philosophy of the 6NT lead..dont give tricks away to declarer on the initial lead.|pg||
nt|granguru:  when you have points in all side suits normally declarer has a solid trump suit...|pg||
pc|cK|nt|brolucius: Presumably intended as that. Since 1@S shows very little, as I see it, East might also consider 3@S.|pg||
nt|ralfwil: but the best with this bidding is that W has shown his @h honour|pg||
nt|rcerreto:  maybe their standard for free bids is higher than yours and mine|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c2|pg||
nt|pelu: Easr didnt read the X from West as @hs|pg||
nt|pelu: saved by S|pg||
nt|murat: good afternoon all :)|pg||
nt|pelu: wellcome now we hace 2 x Murat :)|pg||
pc|s4|nt|brolucius: Although we may quibble with the odd bid or two, it seems that the players have judged it very well around the table. |pg||
nt|rcerreto:  anyway, they succeeded in bidding the par|pg||
nt|brolucius: The term 'free bid' was responsible for a lot of awful bidding many decades ago.|pg||
nt|murat: guess one of the most common names of Turkey :)|pg||
pc|sT|nt|rcerreto:  in a difficult board|pg||
nt|rcerreto:  yes, indeed|pg||
nt|granguru:  !<s now|pg||
nt|granguru:  @s|pg||
nt|granguru:   s must lose all his losers|pg||
nt|granguru:  no uppercut now if s plays @s correctly|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s3|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|d5|pg||
nt|pelu: as Peter in Denmark :)|pg||
nt|granguru:  done|pg||
pc|sK|nt|rcerreto:  free-bid is something very different today|pg||
pc|d7|nt|granguru:  -1|pg||
pc|h7|pc|s6|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|h6|nt|brolucius: I am told that 4@S failed at one table of the other semi. Do four round of clubs and a ruff with the king, leave declarer with some sort of guess?|pg||
nt|granguru:  @C would have best|pg||
pc|h8|pc|s8|pg||
pc|c3|nt|peachy: Good play trick 1, lead smelled like singleton (maybe doubleton) so retaining finessing opetion to clubs toward hand|pg||
pc|c6|nt|granguru:  now @C is amust|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|h4|pg||
nt|pelu: we dont have contact to the Open room, but Board 3 _ the 3NT with 5 toptricks out - gave 10 IMPs to Lavazza|pg||
mc|12|pg||
qx|o26|st||md|4SKT84H43DAJ63CK74,SJ5HAJ975DQCQ6532,S97HK862D9875CAJ9,SAQ632HQTDKT42CT8|sv|b|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|nt|roswolf: to play in 2major it seems|pg||
nt|han: 2D is up to about 15 points here|pg||
mb|2N|mb|p|nt|han: with 16+ Wortel would bid 2C or 2NT|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|roswolf: 2nt looks a slight punt to me|pg||
nt|dburn: how few does she have to have to pass 1NT?|pg||
pc|h2|nt|roswolf: the club 10 less?:)|pg||
nt|han: I don't know how forcing their 1NT is|pg||
nt|roswolf: the lead helps|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h4|pc|h5|pg||
pc|hT|pc|h3|pc|hJ|pc|hK|pg||
pc|s9|pc|s2|nt|roswolf: communications are tricky|pg||
nt|eggy: I certainly wasn't an easy hand for North though|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s5|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sJ|pc|s7|pc|s3|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|d2|pc|sT|pg||
pc|h9|pc|h8|pc|s6|nt|roswolf: this looks -2 in the end|pg||
pc|s8|pg||
pc|h7|pc|d5|pc|c8|nt|eggy: 1 I think|pg||
pc|d3|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d7|pc|d4|pc|d6|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cJ|pc|cT|pc|c4|pg||
nt|han: well done by weinstein|pg||
pc|d8|pc|dT|pc|dJ|pc|c3|pg||
pc|dA|pc|c5|pc|d9|pc|dK|pg||
pc|c7|pc|c6|pc|cA|pc|sQ|pg||
pc|c9|pc|sA|pc|cK|pc|cQ|pg||
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qx|c26|st||md|4SKT84H43DAJ63CK74,SJ5HAJ975DQCQ6532,S97HK862D9875CAJ9,SAQ632HQTDKT42CT8|sv|b|nt|brolucius: Declarer played trump to the ace, I am told.|pg||
nt|rcerreto:  felt unhappy afterward, I presume|pg||
nt|pelu: as expectet (not Murat) also 1 NT in OR in Board 4|pg||
nt|pelu: west lost count|pg||
nt|granguru:  a 21-19 count|pg||
nt|granguru:  very poor fits all over|pg||
nt|granguru:  EW has 3 5-2 ones|pg||
nt|granguru:  NS only @D 4-4|pg||
mb|1S|nt|MolvaM: that usually means our vugraf operator will soon close this table and reopen it to establish the link to the other table|pg||
mb|p|nt|MolvaM: what shld tokay do? dbl?|pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|nt|brolucius: 4@D made against the 300 here, so a big swing to Badger.|pg||
nt|paulg:  i was wondering if South would overcall 1@s, easier to overcall 1NT perhaps|pg||
nt|granguru:  probasbly e could have avoided the mistake overtaking @D and playing @c9|pg||
nt|paulg:  west cannot make a penalty double these days|pg||
mb|2D|nt|pelu: again 1Nt with a 5 card @S - |pg||
mb|p|nt|murat: and now ?|pg||
mb|2S|nt|brolucius: North was in 3NT at the other table, doubled and ran to 4@D.|pg||
nt|paulg:  2@h will be hearts and a minor, so North asks|pg||
mb|p|nt|murat: not the best lead|pg||
nt|MolvaM: 3d could be makable but tokay wasnt sure about 5 cards @d|pg||
nt|granguru:  NS guessing can win 3@D|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|rcerreto:  do EW play transfer?|pg||
nt|brolucius: Transfers opposite 1@C are popular.|pg||
nt|granguru:  we will see a good fight here|pg||
nt|granguru:  as 2@S is a difficult contract to win|pg||
pc|s4|nt|brolucius: With four aces missing, it seems that the three-level may be high enough.|pg||
nt|pelu: that the problem with 1@D opening - partner dont know if u have 2 or 5 :)|pg||
nt|pelu: some play for 4@s - but US never found the @s-fit|pg||
nt|granguru:  mmm|pg||
nt|granguru:  Does S have nothing clear  to lead?|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s7|pc|s6|pg||
nt|brolucius: Obviously East had read West for a much better hand than he holds.|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|ralfwil: and I can´t see why...|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d2|pc|dA|pg||
nt|brolucius: Such a shame to lose IMPs unnecessarily when there are so many other ways of losing IMPs.|pg||
nt|rcerreto:  could W consider his hand balanced?|pg||
nt|rcerreto:  then open 1NT (or rebidding, if 1NT is weak)?|pg||
nt|brolucius: 3@C was presumably non-forcing, so it is hard to see how East had enough to look for an 11-trick game.|pg||
nt|granguru:  well he treated the  hand as a croos ruffing type|pg||
nt|granguru:  and protected potential @d tricks|pg||
nt|peachy: Protected diamond tricks I think|pg||
pc|c4|nt|ralfwil: If 1@s is´nt spades, 1nt from W looks normal for me |pg||
nt|murat: 9 tricks i guess|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cJ|pc|c8|pg||
nt|granguru:  now he is not so sure anymore....|pg||
pc|s9|nt|peachy: Although, 2D foes not necessarily promise 4+ diamonds|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|s5|pg||
nt|granguru:  as we see, he changed his mind but fortunatelly N had a @S left|pg||
nt|peachy: if EW play 2/1 (which I do not know if they do)|pg||
pc|c7|pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|cT|pg||
pc|d9|nt|MolvaM: I was asked twice the question "what are these people doing here" :)  probably looking at the strane flag combinations|pg||
nt|MolvaM: this is the European Opan Championship|pg||
nt|MolvaM: Open|pg||
nt|granguru:  excelent defense after all|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d3|pc|c5|pg||
pc|sA|nt|pelu: very nice defense|pg||
pc|s8|pc|c6|pc|h2|pg||
nt|granguru:  declarer can lose 4 more tricks now|pg||
nt|granguru:  for down THREE|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|granguru:  panski wished he would have been in dummy now|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|h6|pg||
pc|hT|nt|brolucius: Going two down may make it seem a bit less of a disappointment.|pg||
pc|h4|nt|granguru:  @Sq is a killer|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h8|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|granguru:  was not bad |pg||
nt|granguru:  so it was a discard after all|pg||
pc|c9|pc|s2|pc|cK|pg||
pc|s3|pc|sT|nt|peachy: Back to down 1, S will be endplayed in S|pg||
pc|h7|pc|d7|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|h9|pc|d8|pc|d4|pg||
pc|d6|pc|hJ|pc|hK|pc|dT|pg||
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qx|o27|st||md|1SKHT754DK8763CKQ8,SQ75HAKJDAQ2CT976,SAT92HQ862DJTCA43,SJ8643H93D954CJ52|sv|o|nt|roswolf: very competent defence|pg||
nt|han: by ducking the diamond he sets up his 2nd diamond trick without creating an entry to dummy|pg||
nt|eggy: yes - perhaps declarer should have left playing diamonds to them?|pg||
mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2H!|mb|p|mb|2S!|mb|p|mb|p|nt|han: the good news for EW|pg||
mb|p|nt|han: is that 2S might be down as well|pg||
nt|han: though not -2 I would think|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d4|pc|d6|nt|roswolf: 2@S-1 was the result|pg||
pc|dQ|pg||
nt|han: this is a relaxed hand, declarer is in a normal contract and will go down at only 50 per trick :)|pg||
nt|roswolf: tense is possible han|pg||
nt|han: 2S-1 at the other table, so 2NT-2 cost only 3 IMPs|pg||
pc|c7|nt|han: on the previous hand I meant|pg||
pc|c3|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pg||
pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|dT|pc|d5|pg||
pc|d2|pc|s2|pc|d9|pc|d7|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h3|pc|hT|pc|hJ|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h9|pc|h4|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h8|pc|c2|pc|h5|pg||
nt|han: Kamil should not give away too many 50's or we'll switch to 30's|pg||
pc|s5|nt|eggy: those -50s might be looking a bit tenuous now if declarer is inspired|pg||
pc|s9|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c6|pc|cA|pc|c5|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|s8|pc|h7|pc|c9|pg||
pc|s3|pc|d8|pc|s7|pc|sT|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|dK|pc|sQ|pg||
pc|c4|pc|s6|pc|c8|pc|cT|pg||
nt|roswolf: this looks -1|pg||
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qx|c27|st||md|1SKHT754DK8763CKQ8,SQ75HAKJDAQ2CT976,SAT92HQ862DJTCA43,SJ8643H93D954CJ52|sv|o|nt|ralfwil: a wise man told me once - don´t take gifts, so @dK should be played to follow his advise|pg||
nt|brolucius: FIFA do not follow that advice.|pg||
nt|MolvaM: so there is no restriction in countries and anybody can play with anybody from any country|pg||
nt|MolvaM: totally open event|pg||
nt|MolvaM: and even though its a European event, its open to people from other continents|pg||
mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|granguru:  S should have played a @H at trick 4 in tha last hand|pg||
mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2S|nt|paulg:  3@h is the probably the value bid for Mahaffey, but many just put 4@h on the table and make it the opponents' problem|pg||
nt|pelu: East for sure dont like his hand after 2@D overcall|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|paulg:  South will pass, probably needs a fourth spade to double|pg||
mb|p|nt|brolucius: Some might play a weak-strong 2NT on the East cards, to differentiate between strong and distributional 3@D hands.|pg||
nt|pelu: what a lead - but he will have a new chance later|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|rcerreto:  no way to play trumps from N|pg||
nt|rcerreto:  then it should make|pg||
nt|murat: anybody dbl with east hand ?|pg||
nt|peachy: Molenaar must have at least thought of balancing|pg||
nt|granguru:  leslie amoils is a canadian player...wonder why she has the USA flag here|pg||
pc|d4|nt|rcerreto:  even misguessing @d|pg||
nt|MolvaM: not me|pg||
nt|murat: i mean after 4@h|pg||
nt|pelu: no|pg||
nt|paulg:  standard Polish lead, second highest from three|pg||
nt|granguru:  @SQ9 big helpers|pg||
pc|d3|pc|dQ|pg||
nt|rcerreto:  oops|pg||
nt|rcerreto:  they found the way|pg||
nt|Walddk3: Both losing semifinalists are awarded bronze medals. There is no playoff for third place (a good decision in my view)|pg||
nt|brolucius: East hoping for a heart ruff.|pg||
nt|rcerreto:  yes, 3rd-4th place finals are dull|pg||
nt|brolucius: But neither team has a bronze medal in their sights at this moment.|pg||
nt|rcerreto:  winning A and playing a @h back would have forced S to play trumps but...|pg||
pc|c7|nt|rcerreto:  this way has a chance to discard a @h on @s|pg||
nt|pelu: why sh he X?|pg||
pc|c4|nt|rcerreto:  a very good chance now|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pg||
pc|d6|nt|MolvaM: looks like 4 losers but declarer will still look for an endplay to get rid of the@s loser|pg||
nt|murat: for a save or for some money|pg||
pc|dA|pc|dT|pc|d5|pg||
nt|pelu: score now 13-1 for Lavazza|pg||
pc|d2|pc|c3|pc|d9|pc|dK|pg||
nt|granguru:  Leslie should be Les Amoils, male, lived in South Africa before coming to Canada|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s5|pc|s2|nt|pelu: @s4 sh ask for @c|pg||
pc|s3|pg||
pc|c8|pc|c6|pc|cA|nt|granguru:  probably with USA flag because Kamil's team is register as such|pg||
pc|c2|pg||
nt|brolucius: 2NT was just made on the deal where E/W went two down in 4@C, so 8 IMPs to Zimmermann.|pg||
nt|pelu: that a DD analyse|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h3|nt|pelu: if u X for 1 down odds are against u: 3 / 5 IMP|pg||
nt|murat: right|pg||
nt|pelu: vuln and 2 / 5 non vuln|pg||
nt|MolvaM: baldursson has too many high cards and has to defend carefully to avoid being thrown in|pg||
nt|murat: he should win with the king now|pg||
pc|hT|pc|hJ|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|h9|nt|murat: or else he'll be endplayed|pg||
pc|h4|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h8|pc|c5|pc|h5|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|d7|pg||
pc|sT|pc|sJ|nt|pelu: S sh duck and hope for 6 card @S in East|pg||
nt|pelu: same contract in OR|pg||
nt|pelu: coffee break?:)|pg||
nt|vugraphplb: yes|pg||
nt|pelu: tx Michal|pg||
nt|murat: i am told 4@h made by Bocchi at OR|pg||
nt|pelu: 12 IMPs to Lawazza - Bocchi did set up an endplay on West and made 4@H : 25-1 now|pg||
pc|d8|pc|s7|pg||
pc|s6|pc|cK|pc|c9|pc|s9|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|s8|pc|h7|pc|cT|pg||
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qx|o28|st||md|2S2HAK872DAK97CAT6,SKT53H9643DQ863C9,SQJ964HTDCKQ87532,SA87HQJ5DJT542CJ4|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|nt|han: with diamonds splitting 5-2, 5 with south|pg||
nt|han: declarer would prefer to lead spades to the west hand|pg||
mb|1D|mb|1H|mb|d!|nt|han: which would win not only if south had a singleton honor, but also a doubleton honor|pg||
nt|han: but there was no easy entry to dummy|pg||
nt|eggy: "sporty" 1D|pg||
mb|2C|mb|p|nt|han: 1D in third seat white against red is almost automatic for this pair|pg||
nt|han: they are a very enterprising pair|pg||
nt|han: and this is almost an opening hand right?|pg||
nt|han: Weinstein has a huge hand for Kamil|pg||
nt|han: and Kamil also has a really strong hand once he finds a fit|pg||
nt|dburn: he does, but he may not believe after 2@c that Kamil has a huge hand for Weinstein|pg||
nt|han: no indeed|pg||
nt|han: what should Weinstein do?|pg||
nt|dburn: still, hard to know what else Kamil could do|pg||
nt|han: 2D?|pg||
nt|han: and then push some more?|pg||
nt|dburn: he should probably bid 2@d for the moment, I guess|pg||
nt|roswolf: rehi all|pg||
nt|han: I would also have passed with Kamil's hand in first seat, any openers?|pg||
mb|3S!|nt|dburn: he could bid 3@s, I suppose, but he would prefer a fourth club for that |pg||
nt|eggy: what would 3S be?|pg||
nt|eggy: I seem to be 3rd in line on that one :)|pg||
nt|han: not only that, he is much stronger than partner would ever expect|pg||
nt|dburn: still, it's what he's gone for - he must be confident that 3NT isn't the last making game|pg||
mb|p|nt|han: now Kamil knows the big fit in clubs|pg||
nt|roswolf: is slam in the picture here it might well be|pg||
nt|dburn: I should think Kamil could just about bid it now|pg||
nt|han: if partner has x AKxxx xxx AJxx slam is very good|pg||
nt|roswolf: yes opposite a splinter raise his hand is enormous|pg||
mb|5C|mb|p|nt|han: Kamil does not agree|pg||
mb|6C|nt|eggy: He may not be as enchanted by a spade shortage, but will expecct a 4th club|pg||
nt|roswolf: cluck cluck i think|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|eggy: but Weinstein doesn;t :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|han: perhaps they play that 5C is somewhat positive?|pg||
nt|roswolf: but south is there - itrust there are no ethical issues|pg||
nt|han: the fact that north did not bid 3NT is good news for Weinstein|pg||
pc|dT|nt|han: this is almost a claimer|pg||
nt|eggy: I suppose from South's point of view, N is very likely to be a 2 suiter on this auction, as he was a past hand|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d3|nt|han: declarer only has to worry about 3-0 trumps|pg||
pc|s4|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c9|pc|cK|pc|c4|pg||
nt|eggy: only needs 1 ruff though|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pc|h3|pg||
mc|12|pg||
qx|c28|st||md|2S2HAK872DAK97CAT6,SKT53H9643DQ863C9,SQJ964HTDCKQ87532,SA87HQJ5DJT542CJ4|sv|n|nt|rcerreto:  anyway, she guessed @d right|pg||
nt|brolucius: All plus scores gratefully received.|pg||
nt|rcerreto:  it was just a matter of overtricks then|pg||
nt|Walddk3: Can you stand another nail-biter, David?|pg||
nt|brolucius: Yes, I have taken my pills.|pg||
nt|pelu: sorru on East|pg||
nt|granguru:  panski is trying to cash all defensive tricks bfore it is too late|pg||
mb|p|nt|peachy: Kamil's team is listed as transnational, not USA, in the event|pg||
mb|p|nt|granguru:  S multi 2@D|pg||
nt|paulg:  good result for Meckwell in the other room (probably not the last time we'll say that in this championship)|pg||
mb|1D|nt|paulg:  I've noticed many pairs treat the Multi 2@d as weak with spades when it comes to their 2nd seat defence|pg||
nt|pelu: and 5@H close to make on a small @S-lead |pg||
nt|paulg:  it's rare to see that in the UK, but would work here|pg||
nt|paulg:  3@h from North?|pg||
mb|d|nt|Walddk3: No credit for my hy-phen?|pg||
nt|pelu: for D = balanced 12-15 or any 16+|pg||
nt|pelu: for me|pg||
nt|granguru:  Amoil played for SA in the world teams in bermuda 2000 |pg||
nt|peachy: really light third-seater here|pg||
nt|vugraphplb: i thought that he is from Usa becouse he doesn't exist in EBL base|pg||
mb|3D|nt|paulg:  that is the norm in the UK too|pg||
mb|4D|nt|paulg:  4@d will be 'bid your major' (4@c would have been transfer to your major)|pg||
nt|granguru:  yes many play 2@D x= short in @S |pg||
mb|p|nt|pelu: wd by West|pg||
nt|granguru:  and 2@d - 2@h 5+ @H|pg||
nt|paulg:  this is similar to the situation in the Open Room, where West doubled|pg||
nt|pelu: forcing pass in N?|pg||
mb|5H|nt|brolucius: Be careful because jtr is watching.|pg||
nt|granguru:  now a correct flag in W ...thanks Michal|pg||
mb|p|nt|ralfwil: ??? dbl from me as E|pg||
nt|paulg:  surely not a forcing pass situation|pg||
mb|6C|nt|pelu: but East help him, in on @CK he played @D - ruff, @C to A @S to 10 and duck - and now endplayed - East sh play @C back and no endplay|pg||
mb|p|nt|rcerreto:  a cheap save on 4@h|pg||
nt|brolucius: 4@S has escaped a double, but the cards lie well for declarer so the lack of a double will not cost E/W much.|pg||
nt|granguru:  In the meanwhile NS surpassed the safet level of 5@C|pg||
nt|granguru:  is 6@C makeable?|pg||
nt|granguru:  after A GAROZZO's lead|pg||
nt|peachy: on the surface, looks like just lose a spade, whether the tricks are there is another matter|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|ralfwil: but still a dbl....|pg||
nt|granguru:  2 discards on reds|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|pelu: why not - u have bid game Red against green |pg||
pc|dA|nt|pelu: its for me a good standard rule|pg||
pc|d3|pc|s4|pg||
nt|brolucius: Had the cards lain differently, not doubling might have waved goodbye to 500 or so.|pg||
nt|brolucius: East may have feared a third-hand opener, but her side was vulnerable.|pg||
nt|ralfwil: a thirs hand opening, but I can take 170 extra if declarer makes|pg||
nt|brolucius: West does not know that partner holds 10 points, so he cannot double 4@S even with an extra value or so. |pg||
nt|ralfwil: but shouldn´t E?|pg||
nt|pelu: now N can make 1NT - topplay @Hs and only 6 tricks for EW|pg||
nt|granguru:  3 discards on reds sorry|pg||
nt|granguru:  one @S given up|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c9|nt|Walddk3: The contract is doubled at both tables in the other match|pg||
nt|granguru:  so just one ruff needed|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c4|pg||
nt|brolucius: Quite right.|pg||
pc|c6|nt|peachy: it does make|pg||
nt|granguru:  not even garozzo beats 6@c here|pg||
mc|12|nt|peachy: WD White House team|pg||
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qx|o29|st||md|3S952HJT8542D6CT42,SKQT76HA6DQ8CAK63,SAJ84HQ9DAKT95C98,S3HK73DJ7432CQJ75|sv|b|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2D!|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|roswolf: another 5-1 fit|pg||
pc|dA|nt|bigtrain: very similar trump suit also|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d6|pc|d8|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d3|pc|s2|pc|dQ|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|c8|pc|cQ|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s5|nt|roswolf: declarer may well scramble home here|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|bigtrain: really only one spot difference from the rpior hand|pg||
pc|sA|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|hA|pg||
nt|eggy: DT perhaps? to get a force going|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|d4|pc|s9|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s8|pc|d7|pc|h4|pg||
mc|8|nt|eggy: no problem with 5-1 fits then :)|pg||
nt|roswolf: We are now on the last board of the set. Thanks to our operator, Pawel - Great Job! Our appreciation to all the organisers for ensuring that this fine event is brought to BBO ...|pg||
nt|roswolf: vugraph. Thanks too to my very learned fellow commentators Han, Steve, Walter and Henry for their company and perceptive comments and to our specs whose contributions keep us on ...|pg||
nt|roswolf: our toes.|pg||
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qx|c29|st||md|3S952HJT8542D6CT42,SKQT76HA6DQ8CAK63,SAJ84HQ9DAKT95C98,S3HK73DJ7432CQJ75|sv|b|nt|ralfwil: but perhaps only 2 imps|pg||
nt|rcerreto:  should she risk -420 to get 100 instead of 50?|pg||
nt|dburn: risk? what risk?|pg||
nt|brolucius: Better to risk a double in the first place.|pg||
nt|Walddk3: An excellent 6@D now|pg||
nt|dburn: declarer could have the singleton king of clubs only if she had about ten cards rather than thirteen|pg||
nt|rcerreto:  can declarer have one more @d one less @c?|pg||
nt|ralfwil: 6@d on NS - a nice contract|pg||
nt|rcerreto:  N was declarer, I think|pg||
nt|Walddk3: In theory, there is a club ruff, but fortunately for declarer, the defender with the singleton club also has @DA|pg||
nt|brolucius: An interesting bidding test. If they bid it, I will applaud.|pg||
nt|brolucius: 6@C is more tricky and that might be reached.|pg||
nt|Walddk3: They may arrive in 6@C, though|pg||
nt|Walddk3: With problems on a spade lead|pg||
nt|brolucius: Yes.|pg||
nt|ralfwil: can they make 1C after a @c lead? I doubt|pg||
nt|brolucius: This is the sort of board we were hoping for. No-one wants these matches to be decided on small margins after some drab boards.|pg||
nt|ralfwil: sry @s lead|pg||
nt|ralfwil: 6@c after a @s lead....|pg||
mb|1D|mb|p|nt|brolucius: If one side wins after doing better on the big boards, then good luck to them - (even if they are not from England)|pg||
nt|murat: that was unexpected|pg||
nt|MolvaM: the contract went both ways during play and finally declarer came out as the winner|pg||
nt|paulg:  Seeing your partner pass when you have a balanced zero count is never good|pg||
mb|p|mb|d|nt|pelu: 34 HCP - I exp slam with most tables|pg||
nt|paulg:  1@s now from South?|pg||
mb|p|mb|2C|nt|ralfwil: If declarer plays @d before havinc cleaned trumps, another @s will set up a trumph trick|pg||
mb|p|nt|brolucius: D'Ovidio has started well by emphasizing the diamonds before supporting clubs.|pg||
nt|granguru:  NS has a score sheet we all like to bring to the comparison table...all NS scores|pg||
mb|2S|nt|Walddk3: 6@C in the closed room|pg||
nt|Walddk3: Waiting for the lead|pg||
nt|Walddk3: @SQ|pg||
mb|p|nt|pelu: but not so easy to bid the Grand|pg||
nt|granguru:  7@D should be|pg||
mb|2N|nt|brolucius: Ouch!|pg||
nt|murat: would you also prefer 2@s ?|pg||
mb|p|nt|brolucius: Imagine winning the board with 3NT.|pg||
nt|brolucius: A spade lead would not beat 3NT if clubs were 3-2.|pg||
nt|brolucius: not beat 6@C, I mean|pg||
mb|3N|nt|ralfwil: true!|pg||
nt|paulg:  tougher when you have not shown your 5-card support for partner|pg||
mb|p|nt|pelu: roller-coaster :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|MolvaM: this is interesting|pg||
nt|murat: Tokay should work some |pg||
nt|MolvaM: has to keep south out|pg||
mb|p|nt|granguru:  Even if that doesnt mean anything, usually it is a good sign...|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|peachy: Declarer does not know how hearts sit so he might duck one, but as it is, does not matter|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h9|nt|pelu: would u X in West or bid 2Nt?|pg||
nt|paulg:  i would have started with 2@d (inverted) personally, even if showing your 4-card major first seems to be growing in popularity|pg||
pc|h3|pg||
pc|d6|nt|pelu: but then u would mis a 4-4 fit in @H - pd could be 4-4-3-2|pg||
pc|d8|nt|murat: dbl i guess|pg||
nt|pelu: for 100% 2NT|pg||
nt|MolvaM: I would bid 2nt|pg||
nt|pelu: 2NT = 16-19, D + 2Nt = 20+|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d2|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d3|nt|MolvaM: whenever I double, lefty bids 4@h and pd bids 4@s with 4 cards|pg||
pc|h5|pc|dQ|pg||
nt|murat: i prefer 2NT with 15-17 |pg||
nt|murat: bad 18|pg||
pc|dT|nt|peachy: Doubledummy = seeing all four hands, ducking is wrong. Not seeing all four hands, it is a normal play|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|h2|pc|s6|pg||
nt|pelu: many play that 1@D - 2@D = no 4 card major|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s5|nt|brolucius: So, 20+ IMPs swing due to a 4-1 break. Well, that's part of the game. Hard to take, though.|pg||
nt|murat: he was afraid of Q@c |pg||
pc|sK|nt|pelu: @cQ and @S back and Tokay will regret that he used his only entry to dummy|pg||
nt|MolvaM: kibs are shocked... to play clubs from hand is purely double dummy. he cant do that|pg||
nt|pelu: but against storng defense his plan sh fail|pg||
nt|MolvaM: he can hope that @cA is with north but very hard to play for both honors to be there|pg||
nt|pelu: if S has showed distrbution in the black suits - and easy defense for N|pg||
nt|MolvaM: well some days even 2 club tricks could be enough|pg||
nt|MolvaM: he could catch the @dQ|pg||
nt|murat: he's hopeless now|pg||
nt|MolvaM: so to play for @cQx inside is not a terrible play|pg||
nt|pelu: now running score in Women and Senior : http://www.poznan2011.pl/results|pg||
pc|sA|pg||
pc|d9|pc|d4|pc|c2|pc|c3|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|o30|st||md|4SJ6HQT5DJ965CQT97,S83HAKDKQT74C8654,SAKT97HJ98DA2CAK2,SQ542H76432D83CJ3|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|d|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|roswolf: practical bidding|pg||
nt|han: Choice for Kamil was between 2S (which should be forcing imo) and 3NT|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|han: I think so too, even if partner has 3 spades it isn't clear whether 4S is better|pg||
nt|han: and by bidding a direct 3NT you give less information to the opponents|pg||
nt|roswolf: defence could get 2@H +2@D +@S|pg||
nt|han: double dummy declarer can easily make it|pg||
nt|han: by cashing clubs and spades and exiting in hearts|pg||
nt|han: for example|pg||
nt|roswolf: PERHAPS BUT HE IS SINGLE DUMMY -A HANDICAP:)|pg||
nt|han: yes, surely it is tougher single dummy :)|pg||
nt|han: EW lead Rusinov against notrump from suits of 4+ length|pg||
nt|chmitty: hi guys :) let me get in and give an opinion : when declarer will learn that South has 4 cards in @c he may decide to reject the @s finesse and endplay West|pg||
nt|chmitty: West sry|pg||
nt|han: agree Pierre|pg||
nt|roswolf: restart scheduled for 28mins time approx|pg||
nt|han: but is it right to play 2 rounds of clubs?|pg||
pc|dA|nt|roswolf: i dont think so but|pg||
pc|d8|pc|d5|pg||
nt|roswolf: does declarer|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|cQ|pc|c4|pg||
nt|roswolf: the lead smells|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s3|pc|s7|pc|s2|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s8|pc|s9|pc|sQ|pg||
nt|roswolf: and declarergoes down|pg||
nt|eggy: what is unlikely was cashing the spades and giving up on that finesse|pg||
nt|eggy: was I should say|pg||
nt|han: at the other table the auction was far more enlightening|pg||
nt|roswolf: indeed|pg||
nt|han: and still declarer went down|pg||
nt|roswolf: east thinking -why - just return pards suit|pg||
nt|han: so perhaps it was not possible to find at the table?|pg||
nt|han: returning hearts could be necessary if partner has AQ of hearts and started with KQJxx of diamonds|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d9|pc|dT|pc|d2|pg||
pc|dK|pc|h8|nt|roswolf: ok just checking:)|pg||
pc|h2|pc|d6|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h9|pc|h3|pc|h5|pg||
pc|hK|pc|hJ|pc|h4|pc|hT|pg||
mc|8|nt|chmitty: the cards played by West on the rounds of @s are suppose to give the clue to East|pg||
nt|chmitty: depending on their agreements|pg||
nt|vugraphplE: Thanks all|pg||
nt|roswolf: a good win for the dutch -bye for now|pg||
nt|han: good result for White House this round|pg||
nt|han: bye|pg||
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qx|c30|st||md|4SJ6HQT5DJ965CQT97,S83HAKDKQT74C8654,SAKT97HJ98DA2CAK2,SQ542H76432D83CJ3|sv|o|nt|Walddk3: 12 IMPs not the end of the world at this point|pg||
nt|ralfwil: another slam|pg||
nt|brolucius: So, Allerton-Leslie will think that they may have had a very big board.|pg||
nt|pelu: same did N :)|pg||
nt|paulg:  i would be bidding hearts on the next round|pg||
nt|granguru:  I think it is the correct way |pg||
nt|pelu: yes and that would show @H-stopper and bad @ss|pg||
nt|pelu: the problem - at boprt tables was Ss bold @s-bid|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|brolucius: A question of RKCB when the spade fit comes to light.|pg||
mb|1D|nt|MolvaM: for kibs who ask|pg||
nt|MolvaM: the other table scores are unreachable|pg||
nt|murat: Lavazza should get the comfortable lead|pg||
nt|MolvaM: but lavaza leads by a comfortable margin of approx 30 imps|pg||
mb|d|mb|1H|nt|ralfwil: 4@c from me as W|pg||
nt|Walddk3: So Zimmermann by 6 in a minute|pg||
nt|pelu: sory a solid win for Lawazza - my calculations (:)) 37-1|pg||
mb|p|nt|Walddk3: Multon won the diamond at trick 2 and paused for a while before he played another spade|pg||
mb|2C|nt|brolucius: E/W fighting bravely, but hard to imagine that it will be successfully.|pg||
nt|MolvaM: that looked like broadcasting a football match on radio :)|pg||
mb|2S|nt|pelu: a very normal way to bid on Ns hand|pg||
nt|paulg:  I played Mahaffey on vugraph in last year's Rosenblum ... luckily Meckwell were in Nickell's team on that occasion|pg||
mb|p|nt|brolucius: All good pairs will know what to do after intervention over 4NT (in theory....)|pg||
nt|Walddk3: The Vriend team on their way to the final; 32-9 after a slam swing on board 23, like here|pg||
nt|peachy: Last hand now, thanks to our operator Michal for a great job! Also thanks to EBL for getting these great matches shown on BBO.|pg||
mb|2N|mb|p|nt|murat: :)|pg||
nt|pelu: same contract in OR|pg||
mb|3N|nt|pelu: 10 tricks|pg||
nt|MolvaM: the open event at this stage consists of short matches of 10 boards|pg||
nt|MolvaM: so this is the last hand of the segment|pg||
nt|peachy: Kibitzers, you are the life of this party, appreciate all your comments and questions!|pg||
mb|p|nt|paulg:  I think 1NT as semi-forcing is quite popular, where North might pass 1NT?|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|Walddk3: The official site has a score of 30-27 in this match. Not easy to know what to believe|pg||
nt|brolucius: Cronier may fear a diamond ruff in 6@S, because he has offered the lower-scoring slam with excellent spade support.|pg||
nt|MolvaM: many thanks to our commentators peter lund, and murat anter|pg||
nt|MolvaM: and our operator michal |pg||
pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d8|nt|MolvaM: and our kibitzers|pg||
pc|d5|pg||
nt|murat: my pleasure. thx everyone|pg||
nt|MolvaM: the next segment starts soon|pg||
nt|peachy: Round 3 scores  http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/orrrunda3.html|pg||
pc|h8|pc|h2|nt|Walddk3: I trust our operators until proven wrong|pg||
pc|hT|nt|bigtrain: meckwell play semi-forcing...  generally speaking meck passes all 5332s while eric bids on with 5332 maxs|pg||
pc|hK|pg||
nt|granguru:  1@D 1@H (2@S) 2N 4@D(RKCB) 4@H(3) 4@S(Q ask) 4N (noQ)5@C(cab) 5@H(2nd round) 7@D|pg||
pc|s8|pc|s7|pc|sQ|pc|s6|pg||
nt|pelu: next match in 30 min|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d9|pc|dT|pc|d2|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|h9|pc|h3|nt|MolvaM: there are stars from each country|pg||
nt|MolvaM: including all europeans|pg||
nt|MolvaM: and the world champions from usa meckstroth rodwell too|pg||
nt|MolvaM: so just stay with us|pg||
nt|MolvaM: unofficial score is 37-1 lavazza|pg||
nt|MolvaM: but better check later with the website|pg||
nt|MolvaM: http://www.poznan2011.pl/results|pg||
nt|bigtrain: for instance here, 2@C generally shows 4+ for meck and 3+ for roddy :)|pg||
pc|d6|pg||
nt|paulg:  interesting difference in styles|pg||
nt|paulg:  I thought these top pairs/teams were supposed to simulate these situations and get a consensus|pg||
nt|pelu: how do they explai that on CC?|pg||
pc|hA|pc|hJ|nt|bigtrain: its a matter of style|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h5|pg||
nt|paulg:  well, kokish at least|pg||
nt|bigtrain: note i said generally speaking|pg||
nt|pelu: but their opp sh have that information|pg||
mc|8|nt|peachy: bye now, come back for more in less than 30 minutes, Round 4|pg||
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