vg|B EC 2011 Open Teams RR _,6_7,I,21,30,Mahaffey,0,Helle,0| rs|4HE=,4HEx-1,3NS=,3NS+2,4HS=,4HN-1,4HE=,4HE=,3NN=,3NN=,3SW=,4HS-1,4SWx-1,4SW-1,4SN=,4SN=,3NE-2,3NW+2,3SE=,3CS-3| pn|Meckstroth,Danailov,Rodwell,Stamatov,Bryant,Lev,Helle,Pszczola|pg|| qx|o21|st||md|3SAJT62H96DA43CA73,SQ753HK83DJ765CQJ,SK98HQ7D8CKT98542,S4HAJT542DKQT92C6|sv|n|nt|galadriel: Good Morning everyone and welcome to Poznan|pg|| mb|p|nt|cenglund: Hi everybody|pg|| mb|1H|mb|1S|mb|2H|mb|2S|mb|3D|mb|3S|nt|galadriel: At the moment Mahaffey is leading the group and Helle is second|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|galadriel: 3 teams from each group go forward to Swiss A|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h3|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h9|pc|hK|pc|h7|pg|| mc|11|nt|cenglund: Awful start for the leaders|pg|| nt|galadriel: 15 groups, so 45 teams, with around 27 advancing to the knockout stages|pg|| pg|| qx|c21|st||md|3SAJT62H96DA43CA73,SQ753HK83DJ765CQJ,SK98HQ7D8CKT98542,S4HAJT542DKQT92C6|sv|n|nt|jfaria: final session now wlc|pg|| nt|vugraphpl1: Hi|pg|| nt|oosmanb: Hi Everyone|pg|| nt|oosmanb: Hi Everyone|pg|| nt|mcsd: Hello all|pg|| nt|oosmanb: Big match, Mahaffey currently 1st in Group E at 91 VPs, and Helle close behind in 2nd at 86|pg|| mb|p|nt|vugraphpl1: problem with hands|pg|| nt|oosmanb: Okay we'll wait|pg|| mb|1H|mb|1S|mb|2H|mb|3C|nt|oosmanb: We're off with a fun hand|pg|| mb|4H|nt|oosmanb: This 3@C might imply fit?|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|nt|oosmanb: maybe not fit, as Bryant wouldve bid 4@S not dbl|pg|| nt|mamos: hi all|pg|| nt|oosmanb: Hi Mile|pg|| nt|mcsd: doubleing Pepsi in 4@H is not a good idea|pg|| nt|oosmanb: Mike*|pg|| nt|oosmanb: Dbling Pepsi in ANYTHING is not a good idea|pg|| mb|p|nt|jfaria: 4@h seems resonable|pg|| mb|p|nt|oosmanb: Get those @D ruffs going fast!|pg|| pc|cA|nt|mamos: yes unless we NS get those ruffs|pg|| nt|oosmanb: and even then would probably lose imps to vul 4@S |pg|| nt|mcsd: a@d would be a great lead, or switch|pg|| pc|cJ|nt|jfaria: playing in nt will meet an unfavorable @h break |pg|| pc|c5|pc|c6|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cQ|nt|jfaria: 2@c must be some kinf|pg|| nt|jfaria: kind of good hand|pg|| pc|cK|nt|oosmanb: oh dear|pg|| pc|h5|pg|| nt|jfaria: now lets se the lead...|pg|| nt|oosmanb: Play in @H all that matters now|pg|| nt|mamos: NS are pair based in England Rob Helle Dutch lives and works a lot of the time now in Poland -- a great funloving guy with wit and charm |pg|| pc|hA|nt|oosmanb: Oh wow I was wrong. 4@H +1 in other room!!|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h3|nt|jfaria: yestarday a leaing british master was telling that unsoported leading honours are underrated|pg|| pc|h7|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h9|nt|jfaria: he defended a honour lead from this holdong|pg|| nt|jfaria: based on computer simulation|pg|| nt|jfaria: looks like he was right this time|pg|| nt|oosmanb: Moment of truth|pg|| nt|oosmanb: Will go up I think|pg|| nt|oosmanb: but Dbl ..|pg|| nt|mcsd: may be tat dbl is good idea after all :)|pg|| nt|oosmanb: I really dont know what the right play is, so I'll back whatever Pepsi decides|pg|| nt|mcsd: now lets anylise, S is known to hold 5+@S 2+@C probably more|pg|| nt|oosmanb: Seems like North has 7@C 3@S but 1@D 2@H or 2@D 1@H?|pg|| nt|mcsd: hard to imagine that he would double without a@D , dso that goes for 10-11 known cards|pg|| nt|oosmanb: technically could be 6@C 3@S 2-2 3-1 1-3 as well?|pg|| nt|mcsd: so etleast 2@H going up with K is more then 80%|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hQ|pg|| mc|9|nt|oosmanb: Mustafa Tokay and Baldursson playing for team Lavazza|pg|| nt|oosmanb: Coldea is North|pg|| pg|| qx|o22|st||md|4SA6HAQJ9DKQCJ9832,SKJT95HT3DJ86CK75,SQ3H854DA7432CAT6,S8742HK762DT95CQ4|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1C!|mb|p|nt|galadriel: The remainder coming from group B - so still a chance for those teams who don't make it into A|pg|| mb|2C!|mb|p|nt|cenglund: I don't think it's wise to lead trumps when a double fit has been identified|pg|| mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|s2|nt|galadriel: here is the site where you can find all the running scores http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg|| pc|s6|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d5|pc|dK|pc|d6|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d8|pc|d3|pc|d9|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c5|nt|cenglund: Of course the fit in the side suit has not been exposed|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sA|pc|sK|pc|s3|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c7|nt|galadriel: I'm afraid I'm not familiar with the 873 pages of the Meckwell system:)|pg|| nt|cenglund: Probably he is going to play the A and go for the heart finesse if the K doesn't drop|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c4|pg|| pc|dA|pc|dT|pc|c2|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|d7|nt|galadriel: Team Helle is an English/Bulgarian combo|pg|| nt|cenglund: He has 9 tricks without the heart finesse|pg|| nt|Walddk3: Welcome to Bill Jacobs|pg|| nt|galadriel: Mahaffey, of course, USA|pg|| pc|s4|pc|c8|pc|h3|pg|| nt|bjacobs: hi|pg|| pc|d4|pc|h2|pc|c9|nt|galadriel: Hi Bill :)|pg|| pc|s5|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h6|pc|hA|pc|hT|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|s9|pc|h5|pc|hK|pg|| pc|s7|pc|h9|pc|sT|nt|cenglund: Hi Bill|pg|| pc|cT|pg|| pc|cK|pc|h8|pc|h7|pc|hQ|pg|| pg|| qx|c22|st||md|4SA6HAQJ9DKQCJ9832,SKJT95HT3DJ86CK75,SQ3H854DA7432CAT6,S8742HK762DT95CQ4|sv|e|nt|vugraphpl1: now start W|pg|| nt|vugraphpl1: i have E |pg|| nt|vugraphpl1: it's problem.|pg|| nt|oosmanb: 4@s wasnt entirely straight forward btw, specially on a @d lead|pg|| nt|oosmanb: in the other room Rodwell never introduced @C|pg|| mb|p|nt|oosmanb: so Meck didnt bid past 3@S, didnt dbl 4@H, and they didnt set 4@H either|pg|| mb|1C|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|nt|oosmanb: This looks like limit bid with 5+@D ?|pg|| mb|2H|mb|p|nt|jfaria: despite the bonnus lead think 4@h was a winnner, last board|pg|| nt|oosmanb: unless they're on a different system altogether|pg|| nt|oosmanb: Oh precision|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|nt|oosmanb: so GF with @D?|pg|| mb|2N|mb|p|nt|mamos: NS play Tarzan Precision like Wijs Muller|pg|| mb|3D|nt|oosmanb: The deal numbers are loaded wrong I think|pg|| nt|oosmanb: 11-20 that's why|pg|| mb|p|nt|oosmanb: Decent contract, should be able to handle bad trump break|pg|| nt|vugraphpl1: I must give 2 pass. W is dealer|pg|| nt|oosmanb: Sorry folks|pg|| nt|mamos: lots of relays|pg|| nt|oosmanb: I'm getting a lot of help from kibs, appreciate it. 2@H relay|pg|| nt|mamos: yes :)|pg|| nt|mcsd: when the auction ends declarer lets tarzan screem?|pg|| nt|oosmanb: atleast NT right sided|pg|| nt|oosmanb: now they need to stop in 3|pg|| mb|3N|nt|jfaria: we lost the more interesting chalenge in 4@s..|pg|| mb|p|nt|oosmanb: I'm being helped by Ant Edwards, perhaps 2@S is high shortage, and 3@D 2-3-5-3 exactly|pg|| mb|p|nt|mamos: they have im sure|pg|| mb|p|pc|sT|nt|mamos: i know that the first relay asks shape I only know this syastem from being at the other side of the table :)|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s8|pc|s6|pg|| nt|oosmanb: As the hand is you can make 12 tricks |pg|| nt|mamos: as it happens cards are very kind for declarer |pg|| pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|hQ|nt|oosmanb: He's trying to cross ruff the whole hand|pg|| nt|oosmanb: but might be a trick short|pg|| pc|h3|pg|| nt|oosmanb: 10 probably coded|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d6|pc|d2|pc|d5|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d8|pc|d3|nt|oosmanb: so shows 2 above|pg|| pc|d9|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|cA|nt|oosmanb: since south is ruffing @S too|pg|| pc|c4|pg|| pc|dA|pc|dT|nt|oosmanb: ALL IN!|pg|| pc|c9|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|d7|pc|s2|pc|c3|pc|s5|pg|| pc|d4|pc|s4|pc|c8|pc|c7|pg|| nt|jcomyn: hi all sorry a bit late|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h7|pc|hJ|pc|hT|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s9|pc|s3|pc|s7|pg|| pc|hA|pc|sJ|pc|h8|pc|h6|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cK|pc|c6|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|sK|pc|cT|pc|hK|pc|h9|pg|| pg|| qx|o23|st||md|1ST5HAK873DAQT74CA,SQJ9HT5DK9852CQJ5,SK832HQ62DJC98763,SA764HJ94D63CKT42|sv|b|mb|1C!|mb|p|mb|1D!|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2D!|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|galadriel: 2@D showed a @H fit|pg|| nt|bjacobs: interesting play problem here|pg|| nt|galadriel: Thanks to some knowledgable specs:)|pg|| nt|Walddk3: Where is Walter Johnson (bigtrain) when you need him|pg|| nt|Walddk3: In the lobby, yes, but probably fast asleep|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|s5|pg|| nt|bjacobs: In diamonds, you can play a low diamond from hand, and then ruff a diamond, but that depends on trumps being 3-2|pg|| nt|bjacobs: So what I would do is wait to see how Jeff plays it, and then say: |pg|| nt|bjacobs: "that's how I would have played it"|pg|| nt|cenglund: A tough game and you can go wrong easily|pg|| nt|galadriel: he will feel uncomfortable about being forced immediately|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s3|pc|s6|pc|sT|pg|| nt|bjacobs: West might be thinking about a trump switch|pg|| nt|Walddk3: Here he is, our Meckwell expert. Welcome to Walter Johnson|pg|| nt|bigtrain: good morning everyone|pg|| pc|h5|nt|galadriel: hello Walter :)|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h4|pc|h3|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|dK|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h2|pc|h9|pc|hA|pg|| pc|d7|nt|cenglund: He did not miss this one|pg|| pc|d8|pc|h6|pc|d6|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c5|pg|| mc|10|nt|bjacobs: yep, agree with Meckstroth's line - particularly as it worked|pg|| nt|galadriel: he made it look easy|pg|| pg|| qx|c23|st||md|1ST5HAK873DAQT74CA,SQJ9HT5DK9852CQJ5,SK832HQ62DJC98763,SA764HJ94D63CKT42|sv|b|nt|jfaria: but since 4@h doesnt make we lost nothing really :)|pg|| nt|jcomyn: oh well two standard games and a bif 11 imps swin. 4h here easy|pg|| mb|1C|nt|oosmanb: another 1@C|pg|| mb|p|nt|oosmanb: Hi John|pg|| mb|1D|mb|p|nt|jcomyn: hi oosman|pg|| nt|mamos: so strong and a neg|pg|| nt|jcomyn: precision no doubt|pg|| mb|3D|mb|p|nt|jcomyn: hi mike|pg|| nt|oosmanb: 3@D < 18 natural I'm told|pg|| nt|mamos: yep John we are back in The jungle with Tarzan Precision|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|oosmanb: Mustve shown @H :)|pg|| mb|p|pc|c2|nt|jcomyn: very good way of playing right way up|pg|| nt|oosmanb: probably 5-5 reds|pg|| nt|jcomyn: havent seen too many of your lot playing precision mike|pg|| nt|jcomyn: anyway I'm sujre yolu have an amusing explanation of Tarzan Precision|pg|| nt|oosmanb: I'd give open @D and hope for A@S on or @H 3-2|pg|| nt|mamos: played by Wijs Muller |pg|| pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c7|pg|| nt|jfaria: 3nt plyed by South looked fine|pg|| pc|d4|nt|oosmanb: Live standings and scores here: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/orrleaderb.html|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dJ|pc|d6|pg|| nt|jcomyn: knew it.. lol|pg|| nt|oosmanb: Helle has overtook Mahaffey as of now|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h4|pc|h3|pc|h5|pg|| nt|jfaria: if def failed to discover @s I mean|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h9|pc|hA|pc|hT|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|jfaria: anyway 10 tricks is not an easy task|pg|| pc|d5|pc|c6|pc|d3|pg|| nt|oosmanb: This is scary now|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d8|pc|h6|pc|hJ|pg|| nt|oosmanb: wouldve been so much easier if West had taken his King!|pg|| nt|jcomyn: yes and switch s|pg|| nt|oosmanb: but declarer didnt need ruffing finesse|pg|| pc|c4|pc|h7|pc|cJ|pc|c3|pg|| nt|mamos: no way back for declarer I fear|pg|| nt|oosmanb: just ruff 7@D then draw trumps and concede open @D|pg|| nt|oosmanb: make over trick if A@S on|pg|| nt|mcsd: in current stage of the match E-W needs 4 Imp to winn|pg|| pc|hK|pc|cQ|pc|s2|pc|s6|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sT|pc|sJ|pc|s3|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s8|pc|s7|pc|h8|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d9|pc|c8|pc|cT|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dK|pc|c9|pc|cK|pg|| pg|| qx|o24|st||md|2SK632HQ92DA7C9753,SJ875HJ65DJT54CK4,SQ94HK7DK98632CQ6,SATHAT843DQCAJT82|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|nt|Walddk3: If you were asked to find a declarer to make a difficult contract to save your life, you would choose Meck|pg|| mb|2H!|nt|Walddk3: At least I would|pg|| mb|3D|nt|bjacobs: he has been terrorizing defenders for decades|pg|| nt|galadriel: Nice article in the bulletin|pg|| nt|cenglund: His card handling is awsome|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Walddk3: I would chose Fantoni. If he doesn't make it i would still live a couple of hours longer :) says a spectator. That's true|pg|| mb|p|pc|dA|nt|galadriel: Bulletins can also be accessed from this website http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg|| pc|d4|nt|bjacobs: This is another touchy contract. That @H8 is a distracting card|pg|| pc|d8|pc|dQ|pg|| nt|bjacobs: But first Meck has to find the spade switch|pg|| nt|bjacobs: With the lack of entries to dummy, perhaps one uses @CK to play a heart to the TEN|pg|| nt|bigtrain: he'll play a club i think|pg|| nt|cenglund: I suppose Rodwell is showing preference to spades|pg|| pc|s2|nt|galadriel: Does Rodwell know he wants a @S?|pg|| pc|s5|nt|bjacobs: @S 9 is also a distraction|pg|| nt|bigtrain: the 9 or 6 would be clearer signals... remember meckwell play u/d suit preference|pg|| nt|bjacobs: Notice that East did a good thing with that simple 4@H - didn't reveal the side suit of clubs|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|bjacobs: So the defenders are somewhat in the dark|pg|| pc|sA|pg|| nt|bjacobs: But they have defended beautifully and challenged declarer to find a precise series of plays to make this contract|pg|| nt|cenglund: Lack of entries to the dummy favour the winning line|pg|| nt|bjacobs: If you ignore @H8, there are TWO ways to play hearts ... catering to either defender having honour-doubleton|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c3|nt|bjacobs: You can lead low from hand (if South has honour doubleton), or a heart to the 10 for North|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c6|pg|| nt|cenglund: N is likely to have the doubleton given the bidding|pg|| nt|bjacobs: Right|pg|| nt|bjacobs: It does seem right to ignore @H8 at this point, lacking the second easy entry to dummy|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h7|pc|hT|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s7|pc|s4|pc|sT|pg|| nt|bjacobs: So absolutely world-class card play and defence on this deal|pg|| nt|galadriel: Now, Meck can give him another entry|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sJ|pc|s9|pc|c8|pg|| pc|dJ|nt|galadriel: But would probably still get it right|pg|| pc|dK|pc|h3|pc|d7|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h6|pc|hK|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h9|pc|hJ|nt|bjacobs: Declarer showing he doesn't need clubs|pg|| pc|d2|pg|| mc|10|nt|galadriel: well done|pg|| nt|cenglund: By both sides|pg|| pg|| qx|c24|st||md|2SK632HQ92DA7C9753,SJ875HJ65DJT54CK4,SQ94HK7DK98632CQ6,SATHAT843DQCAJT82|sv|o|nt|oosmanb: Pepsi wasnt going to get pd endplayed|pg|| nt|mamos: no mistake from EW|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|jfaria: like W choice|pg|| nt|jfaria: good suit|pg|| mb|1H|nt|jfaria: more stuff in @h than outside|pg|| nt|oosmanb: 4@H makeable?|pg|| mb|p|mb|2H|nt|oosb: Hi everyone. Final segment of the final in progress|pg|| nt|oosmanb: 1@H-2@H-4@H|pg|| mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|nt|jfaria: hi Oosman|pg|| nt|oosb: Hi Joao|pg|| mb|p|nt|jfaria: wlc , lost some nce boards, more will come :)|pg|| mb|p|nt|oosmanb: now NS have more info|pg|| nt|mamos: This is the penultimate round from the Round Robin stage = eight team groups advancing to Swiss A and B today and tomorrow|pg|| nt|oosmanb: This is very tricky|pg|| pc|s2|nt|jcomyn: how many teams from each group|pg|| nt|mamos: 3 to A and rest to B|pg|| nt|mamos: then 27 from A and 5 from B|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s9|pc|sT|pg|| nt|mamos: to make up 32 KO|pg|| nt|oosmanb: that happened?|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d7|nt|oosb: Overtrick now|pg|| nt|oosmanb: Not so tricky now|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dK|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s7|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|cK|pc|c6|pg|| pc|c4|nt|jfaria: fine play and a making 4@s by the right man :)|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cA|pc|c5|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|h7|pg|| nt|oosmanb: can give 2 open @H now|pg|| nt|mamos: the Club position was always going to help as well|pg|| pc|h3|nt|jcomyn: cant be thinking about it..|pg|| nt|oosmanb: declarer might be safety playing with AKxxx opp Jxx ? |pg|| nt|jcomyn: hae me doots|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hJ|pc|hK|pg|| nt|oosmanb: so hes thinking 10x or Kx with pd|pg|| nt|jcomyn: phew|pg|| mc|10|nt|jfaria: irrelevant if E takes the @d A or not|pg|| pg|| qx|o25|st||md|3SK97HQ6DKJT875C98,SQJT654H985D2CT43,SA832HKJ4DA963CA7,SHAT732DQ4CKQJ652|sv|e|mb|1N|mb|2H!|nt|bigtrain: 1NT = 14-16|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cK|pc|c8|nt|galadriel: on board 23 4@H went down played by North on a @C lead|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c7|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c9|pc|c4|pc|cA|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|dK|pc|d2|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|h9|nt|cenglund: Given the bidding and the lead Rodwell may finesse diamonds over W|pg|| pc|dA|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|d9|pc|h7|pc|d5|pc|s4|pg|| pc|d6|pc|h2|pc|d7|pc|s5|pg|| pc|dT|pc|s6|nt|cenglund: Sry he had 10 diamonds, I was talking rubbish|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h3|pg|| pc|d8|nt|galadriel: For anyone unfamiliar with vugraph on BBO , if you click on MOVIE at botom right of scren, you can see all results |pg|| pc|h5|pc|s2|nt|galadriel: scren|pg|| pc|hT|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sT|pc|sA|pc|c2|pg|| nt|galadriel: screen:)|pg|| pc|s3|pc|c5|pc|sK|pc|sJ|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c25|st||md|3SK97HQ6DKJT875C98,SQJT654H985D2CT43,SA832HKJ4DA963CA7,SHAT732DQ4CKQJ652|sv|e|nt|jcomyn: see i can speak scottish as well|pg|| nt|oosmanb: :)|pg|| mb|1C|nt|mcsd: Hello all|pg|| nt|mamos: Here comes Tarzan again|pg|| nt|oosmanb: @H + minor is the theme of this set |pg|| nt|mamos: a rather feeble Tarzan in this case :)|pg|| mb|2H|nt|mcsd: Am i too late?|pg|| nt|jfaria: hi Miros|pg|| mb|3D|nt|jfaria: just a couple of boards :)|pg|| nt|mcsd: Hello Joao |pg|| nt|oosb: 4 top losers here|pg|| nt|oosb: and at the vulnerabilitiy I dont think any South will venture 5@D as a semi-save|pg|| mb|p|nt|mcsd: but will make 6@c or 6@d|pg|| nt|jcomyn: solid 3nt|pg|| nt|mamos: NS need to settle in 3NT|pg|| mb|3N|nt|mcsd: S doesnt realise how stronh is his hand, so passes|pg|| nt|jfaria: W is antecipating a storng balance and tells his story |pg|| mb|p|nt|jfaria: time to bid 6?|pg|| mb|p|nt|oosb: South does well to bid again|pg|| mb|p|nt|oosb: I mean North|pg|| pc|cK|nt|jcomyn: by the way mike who's wijs muller|pg|| nt|jcomyn: apart from JHohnny that is|pg|| pc|c8|nt|oosb: Good save|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cA|pg|| pc|d3|nt|jfaria: W thrusts the oponents|pg|| nt|oosb: Are you guys also bidding 5@C as north?|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dK|pc|d2|pg|| nt|jfaria: hard to tell|pg|| pc|d5|pc|h8|nt|mcsd: i would consider opening of 2@C as north :)|pg|| pc|dA|pc|dQ|pg|| nt|mcsd: and you ask me about 5 :):)|pg|| nt|oosb: I think its very aggressive, at the vulnerabililty|pg|| mc|9|nt|oosb: its the winning action, but if you believe 4@S, he has 3@S 1@H at least to lose|pg|| nt|jcomyn: very droll|pg|| pg|| qx|o26|st||md|4SJ3HAKQ843D63CQ98,SAQT87H765DT84CK5,SK6HJ2DA9752CJ762,S9542HT9DKQJCAT43|sv|b|nt|cenglund: This is likely to be a push|pg|| mb|p|mb|1H|mb|1S|mb|d|mb|2N!|mb|3H|nt|bigtrain: X is a "normal" negative double|pg|| mb|3S!|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|bjacobs: Rodwell couldn't think up an alternative scheme?|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h9|nt|bigtrain: not in this instance... there are plenty of unusal negative doubles in other sequences though :)|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h5|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|h2|pc|hT|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h7|pc|sK|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|dA|pc|dQ|pc|d3|pc|d4|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dK|pc|d6|pc|d8|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|s6|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c26|st||md|4SJ3HAKQ843D63CQ98,SAQT87H765DT84CK5,SK6HJ2DA9752CJ762,S9542HT9DKQJCAT43|sv|b|mb|p|nt|mcsd: Reaching 6@C/@d is not the question, im curious o see how many would save to 6@H|pg|| nt|mamos: 4@s failing on finesse here |pg|| mb|1H|nt|oosb: I think if NS reach 6@C, almost all will save|pg|| nt|jfaria: both are, after 4@h its not easy to bid 6 I think|pg|| mb|1S|mb|d|mb|2N|nt|mamos: 2NT presumably shows @s raise|pg|| mb|3H|nt|jfaria: S with good shape and good colours had to make a move|pg|| mb|3S|nt|oosb: 2 tables have played 6@HX already|pg|| nt|oosmanb: good 4 card raise|pg|| nt|jcomyn: x from n might stop them|pg|| mb|4H|nt|oosb: 1 ventured 7@C|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sA|nt|oosmanb: -100 for +1 imp|pg|| pc|s6|nt|mcsd: My type of bidd, mus been opening with 2@c :)|pg|| pc|s9|nt|oosmanb: then @d on @C|pg|| pc|s3|pg|| nt|oosb: Good shift|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sK|pc|s2|pc|sJ|pg|| nt|mamos: -2 for -2 ?|pg|| nt|oosmanb: all about @C 10 now|pg|| nt|mamos: exactly|pg|| nt|oosmanb: will probably go down 2|pg|| nt|oosmanb: since 9 @C from hand is most convenient|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|c8|pc|cK|pg|| nt|jfaria: 1@c looser, next|pg|| nt|oosmanb: or not.|pg|| nt|oosmanb: Well done|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dA|pc|dJ|pc|d6|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h9|pc|h3|pc|h5|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hT|pc|hA|pc|h6|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h7|pc|d2|pc|s4|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|mamos: so -1 and +1 for NS :)|pg|| pc|s8|pc|d5|pc|s5|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c5|pc|c6|pc|cA|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d3|pc|d8|pc|d7|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o27|st||md|1S43HK98DQT842C974,SAKJ87H65DJCAQJ85,SQHAQT742DA75CK32,ST9652HJ3DK963CT6|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1C!|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|2S|nt|bjacobs: Against 4@S, Rodwell has to avoid a club lead|pg|| mb|4H|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sQ|nt|cenglund: Why did he double?|pg|| nt|bjacobs: Didn't know who was bidding to make or save|pg|| nt|galadriel: probably @D J at trick 2|pg|| nt|bjacobs: And that will be the second test|pg|| nt|bjacobs: He has to raise @DA, and cash hearts|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|sA|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d2|pg|| nt|bjacobs: Meckstroth will presumably play a diamond that helps him|pg|| nt|bjacobs: There it is: the reverse suit-preference|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h8|pc|h5|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hJ|pc|hK|pc|h6|pg|| nt|galadriel: I think these guys have played before :)|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c5|pc|cK|pc|c6|pg|| nt|bjacobs: once or twice|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cT|pc|c4|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|sK|mc|9|pg|| qx|c27|st||md|1S43HK98DQT842C974,SAKJ87H65DJCAQJ85,SQHAQT742DA75CK32,ST9652HJ3DK963CT6|sv|o|nt|mamos: Spades and Hearts again|pg|| mb|p|mb|1S|nt|mcsd: on 3nt with previous hand? |pg|| nt|oosmanb: Fun deals this segment|pg|| nt|mamos: again 4@S failing on a finesse|pg|| mb|2H|mb|4S|nt|oosb: Running scores at: http://b.poznan2011.pl/mxp/fa.html|pg|| nt|mcsd: what would you lead?|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|jcomyn: might drop her|pg|| mb|p|nt|oosmanb: WILL drop her, its @C finesse thats off :)|pg|| nt|jcomyn: or him, soory a knave this time|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|mamos: sharp double from Rodwell|pg|| nt|mamos: in OR|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|sK|pg|| nt|oosb: 3NT was dbled and beaten 3 tricks at one table! Mustve got a @d lead|pg|| nt|oosb: Got a @H lead actually, and then switch at some point|pg|| nt|mcsd: with @H shift :)|pg|| pc|s7|nt|jfaria: DD so far frtom defense|pg|| pc|h7|pc|sT|pc|s4|pg|| nt|oosb: yes excellent so far|pg|| nt|mcsd: w must cash @S after wining a trick|pg|| nt|oosmanb: Rodwell probably thought his 4@H was making |pg|| pc|cT|pc|c4|pc|c5|nt|mcsd: must play 9@S|pg|| pc|cK|pg|| nt|mcsd: now doesnt matter|pg|| nt|mamos: NS have to cash|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|dJ|pg|| nt|mcsd: e must duck and wait for @H shift|pg|| nt|mcsd: yes as Joay said DD defence|pg|| nt|mcsd: if n plays a@H e should play K@h|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h8|pc|h5|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hJ|pc|hK|pc|h6|pg|| mc|9|nt|mamos: Well done |pg|| nt|jcomyn: lord luv us that was a scare|pg|| pg|| qx|o28|st||md|2SJT9876HQJ83DA6C9,S32HT7DT9874CKQ87,S54HAK4DKJ532CAJ2,SAKQH9652DQCT6543|sv|n|nt|cenglund: Well done by Rodwell in a difficult situation|pg|| nt|bjacobs: Yes ... it's so simple looking at all 4 hands, but real bridge (seeing only two hands) is full of traps|pg|| mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|cenglund: He could not slip at all|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 14-16|pg|| mb|4H!|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|bjacobs: East is confident of holding the overtricks|pg|| nt|galadriel: East must be quite hopeful|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s6|pc|s2|pc|s4|pg|| nt|galadriel: but his hopes will be dashed|pg|| nt|cenglund: He will be dissappointed|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s7|pc|s3|pc|s5|pg|| mc|10|nt|cenglund: Yet it's probably a push board|pg|| nt|bjacobs: here is the site where you can find all the running scores http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg|| pg|| qx|c28|st||md|2SJT9876HQJ83DA6C9,S32HT7DT9874CKQ87,S54HAK4DKJ532CAJ2,SAKQH9652DQCT6543|sv|n|nt|vugraphpl1: now it's good;) |pg|| nt|jcomyn: coming down to the wire|pg|| mb|p|nt|jfaria: 3 nt|pg|| nt|vugraphpl1: sorry for problem|pg|| mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1H|nt|mcsd: hello all|pg|| nt|fabsayc: hi|pg|| mb|p|nt|mcsd: 4@S should be plyed, but may go to 6|pg|| mb|1S|nt|jfaria: all ok for overtricks except 4 @c :)|pg|| nt|mcsd: or even 7|pg|| nt|jcomyn: anyone prefer strong nt on this type of 16-count|pg|| mb|p|nt|mcsd: this auction dictates Major suit lead, as books said|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C|nt|oosb: Will probably work on @C |pg|| mb|p|nt|mcsd: but N found safest one|pg|| mb|3H|mb|p|nt|mamos: South has shown his distribution |pg|| nt|mamos: North has relayed twice|pg|| mb|4D|mb|p|nt|jcomyn: a rare bird game contract missing AKQ|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|mamos: im told 4@d = stop signal and 4@h forced 4@s sign off|pg|| nt|jcomyn: better than hugh mcgann who played 6h early in the week missing AK|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|jfaria: making the Ace is a safe way to prtect S Q :)|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s2|pc|s4|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s7|nt|mcsd: 4@Sis weakest bidd, 4@D is |pg|| pc|s3|pc|s5|pg|| mc|10|nt|oosb: unless it gets singleton Q from pd :)|pg|| nt|oosb: I think safest is to let Jack ride :)|pg|| nt|jfaria: playing on @s will avoid @h finesse|pg|| pg|| qx|o29|st||md|3S9642HJ93D5CQJ863,SAK73HKT872D93CKT,SJ85HA65DT74CA954,SQTHQ4DAKQJ862C72|sv|b|mb|p|mb|3N!|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|cenglund: Played from the wrong side|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c2|pg|| nt|bigtrain: as usually happens with gambling 3NT|pg|| nt|bigtrain: @C is rusinow showing the Q and 4+@C|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c7|pc|cQ|pc|cT|pg|| pc|c3|pc|s3|pc|c9|pc|h4|pg|| pc|c4|pc|d2|pc|c8|pc|h2|pg|| pc|c6|pc|h7|pc|d4|pc|d6|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hT|pc|hA|pc|hQ|pg|| mc|7|nt|cenglund: Another top result for Meckwell|pg|| nt|galadriel: I think it's a bit unlucky, as quite often Qx ok for a 3NT contract|pg|| pg|| qx|c29|st||md|3S9642HJ93D5CQJ863,SAK73HKT872D93CKT,SJ85HA65DT74CA954,SQTHQ4DAKQJ862C72|sv|b|nt|oosb: 16 opposite 14|pg|| nt|oosb: but 2 aces missing and @s 4-1, so best spot is 4@S,|pg|| nt|oosb: But @c ruffs involved|pg|| nt|mamos: one pair at least have bid 6@s on these cards :) even better John :)|pg|| nt|oosmanb: gambling 3NT opening in other room|pg|| nt|jcomyn: I like 1NT - 2H- 2S-3H-3nt simple game|pg|| mb|p|nt|jfaria: 3nt?|pg|| nt|oosb: 3NT|pg|| nt|mamos: Yes John and that got 3NT wrong-sided|pg|| mb|1D|nt|oosb: you're right|pg|| mb|p|mb|1H|nt|jcomyn: oh well its a hard life|pg|| mb|p|nt|jfaria: easy looking at 4 hands :)|pg|| mb|3D|nt|oosb: Sorry I was thinking they might be interested in @S slam, so end up in 4@S|pg|| nt|oosb: double dummy 3NT is best|pg|| nt|jfaria: almost sure|pg|| nt|mamos: I hate 3nT on this those two Queensmight be significant |pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|nt|mcsd: 1nt-3nt (stayman possivble), bidding|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|fabsayc: could bid 3@S as forcing heart raise|pg|| mb|p|nt|mcsd: s propb ably asking him self why did i assk 2@C in the first place|pg|| nt|mamos: and 3NT right-sided now|pg|| nt|oosmanb: Meck did well to lead @C honour by the way|pg|| nt|mamos: Why 3NT ? you have the values for 1@d|pg|| pc|sJ|nt|jfaria: 10 tricks in Nt|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s4|nt|fabsayc: and north continues 3nt to show 4333, south passes|pg|| nt|mcsd: that is why he should bidd 3nt imidiately|pg|| pc|s3|pg|| nt|jfaria: same in @s it seems|pg|| nt|mcsd: defenders now have some informatio|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d3|nt|fabsayc: what is wrong with this auction|pg|| pc|d4|pg|| nt|mcsd: 4333?|pg|| pc|dK|pc|c3|nt|fabsayc: the info is not likely to help them|pg|| pc|d9|nt|mcsd: o boith sides|pg|| nt|mcsd: late Reese, was against it so om from that school. |pg|| pc|d7|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|oosb: yeah 2 @S tricks and 1@C for defence|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|dT|pg|| pc|dJ|nt|oosmanb: overtricks now|pg|| nt|jcomyn: thats why such a good idea to pre-empth only when u have nothing outside|pg|| pc|c6|pc|h7|pc|s8|pg|| pc|d8|nt|oosmanb: Guys is everyone leading Q@C/J@C?|pg|| nt|jcomyn: me one|pg|| pc|s2|pc|h8|nt|mcsd: it is nothing wrong in the auction, but it is not my style.|pg|| pc|s5|pg|| nt|jfaria: maybe , plying MP Ivanov could delay his decision about what game to play...|pg|| pc|d2|pc|s6|pc|hT|nt|jcomyn: although tempting to lead a s|pg|| pc|c4|pg|| nt|fabsayc: see the still got it wrong|pg|| pc|d6|nt|oosb: Yes|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hK|pc|c5|pg|| pc|sT|nt|mcsd: :)|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sA|nt|mcsd: no, will make 9 tricks :)|pg|| pc|h5|pg|| pc|sK|nt|oosmanb: No I mean vs 4th best|pg|| pc|h6|pc|c2|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|s7|pc|c9|pc|c7|pc|c8|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cA|pc|h4|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|hA|pc|hQ|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pg|| pg|| qx|o30|st||md|4S8HK7D765CAQT6542,SAK43H643DJT2CKJ9,SQJ52HQJT982DK3C7,ST976HA5DAQ984C83|sv|o|nt|bjacobs: totally agree3|pg|| mb|1D!|mb|2C|mb|d|nt|bigtrain: he was one Qx short|pg|| nt|galadriel: 3 teams from each of 15 groups qualifying for Swiss A|pg|| mb|2H|mb|2S|mb|3C|nt|galadriel: 8 in the group|pg|| nt|galadriel: Thereafter, 27 or so will go into the knockout stages|pg|| nt|bjacobs: a strange number|pg|| nt|galadriel: Well, it will be made up to 32|pg|| nt|galadriel: from Group B|pg|| mb|d|nt|bjacobs: oh ok ... feel like I need a PhD in maths to understand the format|pg|| mb|3H|mb|p|nt|galadriel: So still a chance for a few to qualify even if they don't make it to A|pg|| mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|bjacobs: Well done by E/W here ... West seems to realise East might have rubbish, and didn't push to a disastrous 4@S|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h3|nt|galadriel: I'm being asked about carryover - I'm not sure about that |pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s8|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg|| nt|galadriel: In the mixed, there was a very small carryover, but I don't think there is here|pg|| nt|vugraphplE: This is a last board|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s5|pc|s7|pc|c2|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|d5|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dK|nt|galadriel: I'm being told there is a 3VP carryover for 1st, and 1VP for 2nd, but that's not official!|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d6|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d7|pc|d2|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h5|pc|h7|pc|h4|pg|| pc|hT|pc|s9|pc|c4|pc|h6|pg|| pc|d9|pc|c5|pc|c9|pc|c7|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|cJ|pc|h2|pg|| mc|9|nt|bjacobs: cheers all|pg|| nt|galadriel: Thanks all see you later|pg|| nt|cenglund: Thx all|pg|| pg|| qx|c30|st||md|4S8HK7D765CAQT6542,SAK43H643DJT2CKJ9,SQJ52HQJT982DK3C7,ST976HA5DAQ984C83|sv|o|nt|oosb: fun hand|pg|| nt|fabsayc: defense with knowledge of 4333 should continue club when diamond ducked|pg|| nt|fabsayc: but they did not :)|pg|| nt|oosmanb: ALOT of tables opened 3NT as East|pg|| nt|bjacobs: wouldn't matter would it?|pg|| mb|p|mb|3C|nt|fabsayc: in fact he should have returned spade trick 2, then declarer has no chance|pg|| nt|mamos: Oosman makes an interesting point -- but against gambling 3NT defence needs to win tricks quickly or contract will make almost certainly|pg|| mb|p|nt|jcomyn: 9+9 = game??|pg|| mb|p|nt|oosmanb: Infact 17 tables had Q@C led against 3NT from East (so far)|pg|| mb|p|nt|jfaria: must be @h|pg|| nt|mcsd: so the 4@H goes down 2, nowhere to discard anything|pg|| pc|sA|nt|jfaria: now a cue from W asking 4 a @h stopper|pg|| nt|oosmanb: and 13 led 4th highest @C !|pg|| nt|jcomyn: well that i will never lead|pg|| nt|oosmanb: Which also means that 30 tables opened 3NT as EAST!|pg|| pc|s2|nt|mcsd: e-w may get too high on this hand|pg|| nt|jfaria: @s|pg|| pc|s7|nt|mcsd: sorry -1, i counted @H for 2 loosers|pg|| pc|s8|pg|| nt|jcomyn: more like a poker classic|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dK|nt|mcsd: there is a possibility of makinh 6@D|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d5|pg|| pc|c3|nt|bjacobs: On a low club, anyone make? Could declarer reason: "they always lead aces against gambling 3NT, so he doesn't have @CA, so I play low from dummy"?|pg|| nt|oosmanb: most interesting though, is that 3-4 declarers played 10@c on small @C lead!|pg|| nt|oosmanb: that's some read.!|pg|| pc|cT|nt|jfaria: strange, was expecting last round to be reversed|pg|| pc|cJ|nt|jfaria: meaning 3@s from W and 3nt by E|pg|| pc|c7|pg|| pc|sK|nt|jfaria: but maybe 3@s would accept @h ...|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s6|pc|c2|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c9|pc|h2|pc|c8|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h3|pc|h8|pc|hA|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 10 is clear imo.... generally speaking an ace is lead if held vs gambling 3NT|pg|| nt|bjacobs: Ah, answers my question - but it has a lot of logic in a top-class field|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d6|nt|mcsd: good play ny ivanov|pg|| nt|jfaria: 3nt +3 is worth a fortune!|pg|| nt|mcsd: and atop so far|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d3|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d7|pc|dT|pc|h9|pg|| mc|6|nt|jcomyn: pre-empted out of the h fit|pg|| nt|vugraphpl1: see you|pg|| pg||