vg|C EC 2011 Mixed Teams Swiss,5_5,I,1,10,ChinaTrinergy,0,Lavazza,0| rs|2CW+3,2CW+2,4HS=,6HNx-2,3NE=,3NE-4,5CN=,6CS-1,4CW-1,3DW-2,3NW-1,3DE-1,1NE=,1NE=,5CW-2,5DE+1,4SW=,4SW+1,4HN-1,3NN+1| pn|Wang,Versace,Lu,Cuzzi,AUKEN,KANG,BOCCHI,YAN|pg|| qx|o1|st||md|3SAQ76HKTDA753CJ72,S85H9DT964CKQ9863,SKT3HJ8432DJ2CT54,SJ942HAQ765DKQ8CA|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|d|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d4|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d6|pc|d2|pc|d8|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|c4|pg|| pc|hA|pc|hT|pc|h9|pc|h2|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|c6|pc|h3|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c5|pc|s2|pc|c7|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cT|pc|s4|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|d9|mc|11|pg|| qx|c1|st||md|3SAQ76HKTDA753CJ72,S85H9DT964CKQ9863,SKT3HJ8432DJ2CT54,SJ942HAQ765DKQ8CA|sv|o|nt|Vugraphzfb: But she may be getting a little tired :)|pg|| nt|henryb: have you taken a session off, Jan?|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: Weichsel asks "what's your opening bid style?" B & R: "light - we open most 11's and some 10's. Weichsel: "you open balanced 11?" "some, not all"|pg|| nt|vugraphpl4: hello, they are in the middle of a board, we will skip after they finish|pg|| nt|stc: good morning|pg|| nt|hawe45: Morning|pg|| nt|hawe45: Looks like one down...|pg|| mb|p|nt|ntmon: this match brings 5th and 7th team in actual standings|pg|| mb|1H|mb|d|nt|ntmon: assuming both pairs use Polish club as a base system|pg|| mb|2C|nt|kit: hi everybody|pg|| mb|p|nt|henryb: Hi Kit|pg|| mb|p|nt|kit: Boyd chose to make light response|pg|| mb|p|nt|kit: Double is support double|pg|| nt|hawe45: ... - not now|pg|| nt|stc: Most E will open 2@s, giving the good lead|pg|| pc|dJ|nt|tihana: hi everyone, fast start!|pg|| nt|ntmon: welcome to last set of Swiss stage of Mixed Teams, Euro 2011, Poznan|pg|| pc|dK|nt|henryb: and pass is "I don't have much"|pg|| nt|ntmon: X show 15+ with @c|pg|| nt|Walddk7: Welcome to Markku Pekkinen|pg|| nt|ntmon: N believes in 7 @C quick tricks, an Ace and trick in dummy for her free bid|pg|| nt|runnerup: hi all|pg|| nt|ntmon: hi Markku|pg|| nt|tihana: hi everybody!|pg|| nt|ntmon: 5th and 6th team of actual standings meet here|pg|| nt|vugraphpl4: http://b.poznan2011.pl/mxt/swleaderb.html|pg|| nt|ntmon: hi everyone|pg|| nt|ntmon: quiet board for starter|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d6|pg|| nt|kit: 3NT cold -- they should get there -- probably 3@H from Lair, 3NT from Weishel|pg|| nt|kit: 3@C conservative -- now Weichsel has a problem|pg|| nt|henryb: Lair has a problem|pg|| nt|henryb: I would have tried 2N as Weichsel|pg|| nt|kit: sorry, had that backwards -- missed a bid|pg|| nt|kit: I agree Henry, Weichsel could have tried 2NT|pg|| nt|henryb: we are all sleepy: earlier Kerri Sanborn tried to analyze a hand played counter-clockwise|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: That would be a new sort of bridge, wouldn't it? Counter-clockwise play - maybe clockwise on even numbered boards and counter-clockwise on odd?|pg|| pc|cA|nt|runnerup: if you guess hearts 5 @d makes ew but difficult to bid|pg|| pc|c7|nt|kit: Auction started exactly same way, but South bid 2NT and cold game was reached|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c4|pg|| pc|hA|nt|runnerup: so this is good save anyway |pg|| nt|ntmon: 3@D showed fit but @CQ seems useless, so no further interest by E|pg|| pc|hT|nt|kit: 9 of diamonds discouraging, so likely will find heart shift to hold to 4.|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h2|pg|| pc|h5|nt|tihana: nice lead directing 3@C|pg|| pc|hK|nt|henryb: The drawback to responding with Boyd's hand is the few hands where it goes 1@d-1@h-2N-P-P-X|pg|| pc|c6|nt|kit: pretty rare to get doubled in 2NT Henry|pg|| nt|henryb: the advantage is that sometimes the opponents miss a game|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: Weichsel went to the bathroom while he was dummy so we're now waiting for him |pg|| nt|henryb: There was a creative player in NY by the name of Larry Edwards who believed strongly that the auctions 2N-P-P and 1X-1Y-2N-P-P should always be doubled|pg|| pc|h3|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c5|pc|s2|pc|c2|pg|| nt|Walddk4: You are invisible|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Exit from BBO|pg|| nt|ntmon: welcome to everyone|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cT|pc|s4|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d2|pc|d8|pc|dA|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o2|st||md|4STHAK32DAKQJ2CK84,SJ9652HDT96CJT963,SAQ73HQT54D543CQ7,SK84HJ9876D87CA52|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|1S|mb|d|mb|2S|nt|Walddk6: Welcome to Jack Zhao|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|nt|brgpro: hi|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|sT|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h6|nt|brgpro: Lu is the sponsor of this chinese team, |pg|| pc|hA|pc|c3|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pg|| pc|d8|pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d3|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d9|pc|d4|pc|d7|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dT|pc|d5|nt|brgpro: she will lose 2@h and 1@c, safe contract|pg|| pc|h7|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cK|pc|c6|pc|c7|pg|| pc|h2|pc|s5|pc|hQ|pc|h8|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h9|pc|hK|pc|s6|pg|| mc|10|nt|Walddk6: Welcome to Jan Martel|pg|| pg|| qx|c2|st||md|4STHAK32DAKQJ2CK84,SJ9652HDT96CJT963,SAQ73HQT54D543CQ7,SK84HJ9876D87CA52|sv|n|nt|henryb: So John Lowenthal set a trap for him once, passing partner's 2N opening with a balanced 11|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: Weichsel is back - asked about the result and then "is 3N cold?" Lair: "yes" Weichsel: "what was your hand" Lair told him|pg|| nt|runnerup: bad slam ,but makes -so should be 4 @h +2|pg|| nt|ntmon: this is Euro 2011, Mixed Teams, Swiss stage, Rd 3|pg|| nt|ntmon: teams corrently 5th and 6th met here |pg|| mb|p|nt|ntmon: 1 IMP for Lavazza|pg|| nt|tihana: slamish hands on NS|pg|| nt|tihana: and unfortune break in hs|pg|| nt|Walddk7: Hello Tihana, Jon and Vladimir. Have fun|pg|| mb|1D|mb|p|nt|jbgood: hi|pg|| mb|1H|nt|kit: Weichsel will have to bid 2@H -- then what?|pg|| nt|henryb: he redoubled for 1230|pg|| nt|kit: Probably 2NT by Lair|pg|| mb|p|nt|stc: efficient bid by N|pg|| nt|tihana: even 3 sp is too high|pg|| nt|tihana: hi|pg|| nt|jbgood: unlucky in a way to locate the heart fit|pg|| nt|ntmon: hi Jon|pg|| nt|jbgood: 3@s now?|pg|| nt|tihana: how many tricks in hs make?|pg|| mb|3S!|mb|p|nt|kit: good decision to pass -- and now E-W may get in trouble|pg|| nt|hawe45: Strange 1 NT - open 1 @D and bid @C|pg|| mb|3N!|nt|henryb: North passed, East bid 2H|pg|| mb|p|nt|henryb: back up Jan|pg|| nt|ntmon: S may feel too strong for a simple splinter|pg|| mb|4D|mb|p|nt|hawe45: @H-shift holds to 10 tricks|pg|| nt|stc: 5@d : -500, so a good save|pg|| nt|hawe45: But only South bid @D...|pg|| nt|stc: :)|pg|| nt|hawe45: Another reason to open1 @D|pg|| nt|stc: 5@s by N is also cold|pg|| nt|hawe45: Not with @H-shift, I told you, morning|pg|| nt|ntmon: actually 12 tricks depends on @D suit, bidding slam is not totally out of question|pg|| nt|ntmon: many will prefer 1NT by N|pg|| nt|ntmon: that would lead to a partscore|pg|| mb|4H|nt|mcarroll: A lot depends on the lead here - a @S would set up discards.|pg|| nt|mcarroll: No hope now|pg|| mb|p|nt|ntmon: of course, game has 5 top losers|pg|| mb|4S|nt|kit: Particularly if Lair reopens with a double|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: Better? My connection's been very good here, so I've stopped looking to make sure the passes register |pg|| nt|kit: This will not be pretty, that's for sure|pg|| nt|stc: yes, u r right|pg|| mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfb: Robinson asks about signals: "standard but odd/even first discard"|pg|| nt|ntmon: 3NT non-serious?|pg|| mb|4N|nt|hawe45: Over - but West might even be single @H...|pg|| nt|jbgood: looks like it |pg|| mb|p|mb|5C|nt|kit: cashing ace of hearts seems clear|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: maybe not that clear?|pg|| nt|henryb: I think declarer can emerge with 6 tricks|pg|| nt|ntmon: N shows 18+ range, S might be interested|pg|| mb|p|nt|tihana: Wild Griffins are on 5th place now, Jacob on 7th|pg|| mb|6H|nt|ntmon: there are variations of 2@D enquiry, some of them showing 4M5m - then bidding slam would be easier|pg|| nt|jbgood: of course 6@h is a good slam - only going down on a foul trump split|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kit: 6 looks easy -- it is 7 I'm wondering about|pg|| mb|p|nt|ntmon: 3NT non-serious says: i am not that strong for taking initiative, but i don't want rob you of space for investigation|pg|| nt|tihana: Yan is serious :)|pg|| nt|ntmon: taking initiative :)|pg|| nt|jbgood: he thought he could beat 6 NT too|pg|| nt|jbgood: not unreasonable|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|c3|nt|henryb: can I worry about eight?|pg|| pc|c7|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c8|pc|c6|nt|mcarroll: 2 imp gain for Rossard here and the lead changes hands|pg|| pc|cQ|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h6|pc|hA|pc|dT|pg|| nt|Walddk7: Welcome to Markku Pekkinen|pg|| nt|ntmon: Yan on money|pg|| nt|jbgood: the light interference next door seems to have made it impossible for NS to find out they wer cold for slam on a decent layout...|pg|| pc|dA|nt|runnerup: hi all|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d3|pc|d7|pg|| nt|runnerup: you need diamonds without loosers and @h 3-2 mainly like it is to make slam so slam is not good,but make ok|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d9|pc|d4|pc|d8|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c9|pc|d5|pc|c5|pg|| nt|tihana: hi Markku|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s2|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pg|| nt|runnerup: ofcause some spade ruffs ,club finess ,,and @h can be 4-1 ..|pg|| pc|s4|nt|jbgood: a kib suggests 6 @d - really an interesting contract - but no make I am afraid|pg|| pc|d2|nt|kit: Defense came out okay -- so 6 tricks it is for declarer|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sA|pg|| pc|s3|nt|henryb: Peter could put him out of his misery|pg|| pc|s8|pc|h2|pc|s6|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|cT|pc|hQ|pc|h7|pg|| pc|s7|pc|h8|pc|dQ|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h3|pc|cJ|pc|hT|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hJ|pc|hK|pc|s9|pg|| pg|| qx|o3|st||md|1SJ95HKQJT2DKT2C76,SAKT76H743DAJ74CA,SQ82H98DQ95CJT943,S43HA65D863CKQ852|sv|e|nt|janm: Hi all, nice to be here|pg|| nt|brgpro: hi Jan:)|pg|| mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C|an|.|mb|p|mb|2D|an|.|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|nt|janm: 2@c Gazilli - here showing a strong hand with 6 @ss I guess|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3D!|mb|p|nt|janm: East's hand was pretty good for 1NT, but not so good opposite spades and diamonds|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|nt|janm: Probably East bid 3NT :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|hK|pc|h3|pc|h8|nt|janm: With the K of hearts lead, E will need to hold up and then duck a spade to North - but doesn't the club blockage prevent her from taking the 9 tricks she seems to have? |pg|| pc|h5|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h4|pc|h9|pc|h6|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h7|pc|c4|pc|hA|pg|| nt|brgpro: but the entry to her hand is gone|pg|| nt|brgpro: think she will end up 7 tricks|pg|| nt|janm: Yes - can't get back after leading a spade to the ten, so won't be able to take the KQ of @cs - 4 spades, 1 heart, 1 diamond, 1 club|pg|| nt|brgpro: china gained 15 imps on 2nd board,|pg|| pc|c2|nt|janm: Looking just at the NS cards on board 2, 6@h seems like where you'd want to be, but with the 5-0 break...|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cA|nt|brgpro: NS the other room reached a rather good 6@h ( needing 3-2 trump break) but when they were 5-0, they even got doubled for -500|pg|| pc|c3|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|s5|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s8|pc|s4|pc|s9|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sQ|pc|c5|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|cJ|nt|brgpro: now if N switches to a @d, S might play the 10|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c6|pc|d4|pg|| nt|janm: Oops|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|brgpro: well...|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d7|pc|c9|pg|| nt|brgpro: she is angry...|pg|| nt|janm: I wasn't watching the carding on the spades, but would have thought that S's K, Q, J of hearts suggested diamonds over clubs|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|dA|mc|9|nt|janm: That will probably be some IMPs back to Italy|pg|| pg|| qx|c3|st||md|1SJ95HKQJT2DKT2C76,SAKT76H743DAJ74CA,SQ82H98DQ95CJT943,S43HA65D863CKQ852|sv|e|nt|kit: I think this is barely an opening bid for Boyd|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: Lair: "there must have been a better way to do that" Weichsel: "lead A of @hs earlier" Robinson: "if you lead it earlier, I'll probably make another trick - you can't ruff in with ...|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: it"|pg|| nt|mcarroll: Hi all|pg|| nt|tihana: y, and unfort you cant run to 6d from 6h|pg|| nt|jbgood: running scores: http://b.poznan2011.pl/mxt/swrunda5.html|pg|| mb|p|mb|1C|nt|hawe45: But in fact, -650 is better for E/W than -620 - then they do´nt think about the 500-sacrifice|pg|| nt|stc: strange things...|pg|| nt|ntmon: perhaps now (@H partscore)|pg|| nt|tihana: 0 scores there, are they playing or what?|pg|| mb|p|nt|ntmon: as many as 15IMP|pg|| mb|2C|nt|stc: here NS must open the @Ds quite fast|pg|| mb|3H|nt|hawe45: Or play themselves|pg|| mb|3S|nt|kit: Question is how Lair should raise here|pg|| nt|runnerup: this is 4 @s with @h guess once again ,but first you have to bid it|pg|| mb|p|nt|henryb: why wouldn't Lair raise right away?|pg|| mb|3N|nt|kit: this makes more sense|pg|| nt|henryb: would 2@c be forcing here?|pg|| nt|mcarroll: EW may protect and get to a @S patrtscore?|pg|| mb|p|nt|kit: so will probably reach the doomed 4@S contract|pg|| nt|henryb: sorry, I missed the correction|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: Weichsel writes that 2@h = limit raise and Boyd wrote something back that isn't where I can read it|pg|| mb|p|nt|ntmon: 2@S nat game-forcing|pg|| mb|p|nt|runnerup: looks like partscore can be made both direction perhaps |pg|| nt|jbgood: one thing I know for sure - NS will not be bothered by the last board|pg|| pc|hK|nt|stc: can he guess the K@c ?|pg|| nt|hawe45: After the bidding, he might - if East shows the @D Ace|pg|| nt|stc: yes, but he will play trump before @d|pg|| nt|ntmon: in my book X over 2@D would be T/O for @H but hand not strong enough|pg|| nt|jbgood: (neither will EW:))|pg|| pc|h3|nt|kit: Of course, it isn't 100$ clear for Boyd to continue diamonds when he leads the ace|pg|| nt|henryb: If 2N was natural, I would think that ten fifth of opener's suit would be a turnoff|pg|| nt|hawe45: Sure|pg|| pc|h8|nt|kit: I can picture hands where heart shift necessary. But bidding might help him.|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: Lair: "good luck"|pg|| nt|kit: They do play udca, so 6 won't be readable|pg|| nt|runnerup: yes in club system no big problems to bid,but natural not so easy |pg|| nt|ntmon: 4@S is good contract, will require get @H right|pg|| pc|hA|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s9|nt|kit: Moment of truth right now|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|h9|nt|stc: any making becuase of @h 4-2|pg|| nt|stc: anyway|pg|| nt|mcarroll: I agree|pg|| nt|mcarroll: Despite the combined 22 count this is not an easy contract - particularly on this @C lead|pg|| nt|tihana: and go down in both directions :)|pg|| pc|h5|nt|tihana: hm|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|mcarroll: so a lose-lose situation :)|pg|| nt|tihana: or win-win for the defence :)|pg|| pc|h4|pg|| nt|henryb: truth and concequences|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|stc: and @d frienly, 3-3 with the 10 showing up|pg|| pc|h7|nt|kit: he got it right -- key was Weichsel's 2NT call -- would be unlikely with doubleton diamond|pg|| pc|s2|nt|mcarroll: glass half-full, half empty??|pg|| pc|h6|pg|| pc|hT|pc|d4|pc|s8|pc|d3|pg|| nt|hawe45: East should be 6-2-3-2 now|pg|| pc|h2|pc|d7|pc|c3|pc|c2|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|c5|pg|| nt|ntmon: surprise|pg|| pc|sA|nt|runnerup: so miss guessed -1|pg|| pc|c9|pc|s3|pc|s5|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d6|nt|ntmon: good @H return|pg|| pc|d2|pg|| pc|s6|pc|d9|pc|d8|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|c8|pg|| pc|dT|pc|s7|nt|tihana: suboptimal defence by N in the other room|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|c7|pc|sK|pc|cJ|pc|cK|pg|| nt|jbgood: and ditto declarer play here|pg|| pg|| qx|o4|st||md|2SA87HADKJ96CQT754,SQH97532DQ832C932,SJ93HQ84DA54CAKJ8,SKT6542HKJT6DT7C6|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1N|nt|janm: Would you bid over 1NT, vul opposite a passed partner?|pg|| mb|2C!|nt|brgpro: with 6-4...i would|pg|| nt|janm: And Cuzzi apparently agrees - don't know if 2@c is one Major or both.|pg|| mb|d|mb|3H|nt|brgpro: NS can make 6@c here, ( playing @dJ from hand)...but|pg|| mb|p|nt|janm: Likely both - which will work well on this hand, but the 2 card discrepancy would worry me|pg|| mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|nt|janm: Hard for NS to find clubs, but this might be a way - what can N bid but 5@c here?|pg|| mb|5C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|brgpro: at least this looks a good stop|pg|| nt|janm: Yes, no reason to either bid or make 6|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c4|pc|c9|pc|cK|pg|| nt|janm: When he doesn't lead a spade back, I think - well, without the spade lead, I take that back|pg|| nt|VUGRAPHpl6: Sorry, there was a cub lead|pg|| nt|VUGRAPHpl6: club*|pg|| pc|cA|pc|s5|pc|c5|nt|janm: Those black 6's often look alike, don't they, especially with the symmetrical cards they're probably using|pg|| pc|c2|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|s7|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c8|nt|janm: Even getting to 11 tricks isn't trivial here- ruffing 2 hearts in dummy gets 4 trumps in hand, 2 in dummy, the two major suit aces for 8, and 3 diamonds for 11 - but those 3 diamonds wouldn't always be there - for instance if West had the @d 10|pg|| pc|s4|pc|c7|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|h3|pg|| nt|brgpro: what is he doing...|pg|| nt|janm: Wonder if there's some sort of endplay?|pg|| nt|janm: Cash A of hearts here, then play the third spade?|pg|| nt|brgpro: but even if he gets his @hQ big, it won't help...because it can be ruffed anyway|pg|| nt|janm: And a @d back won't necessarily pick those up either|pg|| pc|d6|nt|brgpro: and his @hQ will discard 4th @d...doesnt help|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|d7|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dT|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h4|nt|brgpro: well, all well...|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hA|pg|| pc|dK|mc|11|nt|janm: Well, that nice 10 of diamonds brought the 11th trick|pg|| pg|| qx|c4|st||md|2SA87HADKJ96CQT754,SQH97532DQ832C932,SJ93HQ84DA54CAKJ8,SKT6542HKJT6DT7C6|sv|b|nt|henryb: that's why I suggested that maybe 2N should turn Lair off, not on|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: Weichsel: "I could have tried something else" Lair: "did you have 5 spades?" Weichsel: "yeah" Boyd: "3N is down 1 also"|pg|| nt|runnerup: so 200 it was a good desision to pass 1 @h|pg|| nt|ntmon: @h lead is a natural killer, takes away the entry to club tricks|pg|| nt|tihana: 15:15 after two boards|pg|| mb|p|nt|jbgood: so all of a sudden it is all square|pg|| nt|tihana: i loove this rooom|pg|| mb|1N|nt|kit: Weichsel holds the rare AK EMPTY ninth|pg|| nt|jbgood: the comeback was fast and furious|pg|| mb|2C!|an|!s !h|nt|henryb: but the doubleton @d is a good sign|pg|| nt|jbgood: E probaply decided to show a major 2 suiter rather than just her spades|pg|| mb|3C|mb|3H|nt|tihana: i think both 3n and 5 cl make, yes?|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|stc: NS may make games in both majors with some good guessing|pg|| nt|runnerup: brave 2 ! and + once again to ns|pg|| nt|tihana: @H and m i guess|pg|| nt|jbgood: NS have 29 hcp combined - and EW are already in 3@hs :)|pg|| mb|4D|nt|kit: Looked like it would be a dull board, but 4@S was doubled in other room |pg|| nt|ntmon: 1 NT upgraded? but 3NT normal contract|pg|| mb|p|nt|runnerup: this loks like 3nt but even here 14+11 -some pairs might miss this game -clubs all well and dimonds badly .but 9 tricks|pg|| nt|ntmon: due to lucky @C position, 9 tricks ready without needing @D|pg|| nt|ntmon: do we agree with 2@H or prefer negative X passed out?|pg|| mb|5C|nt|henryb: If you play fantan around the corner, that is a really good suit|pg|| nt|ntmon: 3NT best but North could not know about @H position|pg|| nt|tihana: hmm, auken goes strong|pg|| mb|p|mb|6C|mb|p|mb|p|nt|stc: they need at least one good guess in @h@s|pg|| nt|hawe45: If West later shows the @S Ace, East must have the @H Queen|pg|| nt|hawe45: That´s NO guess|pg|| nt|tihana: making 4?|pg|| mb|p|nt|mcarroll: proving yet again that bridge is a bidder's game|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|jbgood: seems as if NS should stay out of slams this set|pg|| pc|s3|nt|hawe45: Another @C is correct defence|pg|| nt|hawe45: Why help declarer?|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s7|pg|| pc|h7|nt|hawe45: Might have killed K-10-x|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pg|| nt|stc: A@s KQ@c and Q@h = 11|pg|| nt|ntmon: going for @D seems percentage action - bad luck |pg|| nt|runnerup: last board was plyed in 2nt inspite off 5-4 in @s but 180 was +6 imps because missguess here in 4 @s|pg|| nt|mcarroll: I prefer the neg X which may be passed out, but it may also lead to 3NT |pg|| nt|ntmon: seems that Auken explained herself the absence of 3NT bid by N as positive signal (no stopper, no vastage) |pg|| pc|c4|pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c6|pg|| nt|stc: not now|pg|| nt|hawe45: There is a rule: Only ONE opponent can have @S Ace...|pg|| nt|runnerup: y a common convention helps to bid if partner doesn't delive that south bid his cards allready |pg|| pc|h4|nt|tihana: looks like missunderstanding on board 2 in other room|pg|| pc|hT|pc|cT|nt|stc: and the other the Q¨h|pg|| nt|runnerup: this time you make yhis anyway ,because clubs ao well|pg|| nt|ntmon: S doesn't have an entry for his high @D |pg|| pc|h2|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c3|nt|runnerup: east very much afraid ,but relieved in the end|pg|| pc|cJ|nt|ntmon: last train :)|pg|| pc|s5|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hK|nt|mcarroll: Which may make - there are 9 tricks available but it is difficult for declarer to untangle the entries required|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|h5|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c9|nt|runnerup: east relives in the end-looked bad for her point of yiew|pg|| pc|cK|pc|s4|pg|| nt|jbgood: still it would be a make if E had Qxx in @d|pg|| nt|ntmon: perhaps N should have doubled as warning signal|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|h3|pg|| nt|jbgood: now she knows that is not the case|pg|| pc|d6|nt|Walddk7: Running scores at http://b.poznan2011.pl/mxt/swrunda3.html|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|d7|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dT|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|h9|pc|c8|pc|h6|pc|s8|pg|| pc|d5|pc|s6|pc|d9|pc|d3|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d8|pc|s9|pc|sT|pg|| pg|| qx|o5|st||md|3SA97HQJ965DT7CAT9,SQ4HA8DAQJ63CK653,ST8632HK42DK952C8,SKJ5HT73D84CQJ742|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|nt|janm: And as expected, board 3 was a pickup for Italy - 3NT went down 4 in the other room - a couple of tricks more than we expected|pg|| nt|brgpro: N is the sponsor of this team, he is a company owner in Beijing, so we shdn't expect him playing like a world champion. to be honest, he is rather good player|pg|| mb|1H|mb|2D|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|4C|mb|p|nt|brgpro: 4@c is already 1 level too high|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|brgpro: assuming a normal @h lead|pg|| nt|janm: Versace has extra values for his overcall, but not enough |pg|| pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|h9|pc|hA|pg|| nt|janm: 1 trick in each suit now, and nothing he can do about it that I can see|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c8|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h8|pc|h4|pc|h7|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|c5|pc|hK|pc|hT|pg|| pc|cK|pc|s2|pc|c2|pc|c9|pg|| pc|c6|pc|s3|pc|cQ|pc|cT|pg|| pc|d4|nt|brgpro: well, what about balancing with 2NT?|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dJ|mc|9|nt|janm: Eventually he'll take the losing @d finesse and move on to the next board|pg|| nt|brgpro: showing 6@d 4@c?|pg|| pg|| qx|c5|st||md|3SA97HQJ965DT7CAT9,SQ4HA8DAQJ63CK653,ST8632HK42DK952C8,SKJ5HT73D84CQJ742|sv|n|nt|henryb: Fantan is a game where you build suits from some start card. You can only play adjacent cards. Around the corner would mean that a suit could be built 3-2-A-K|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: Boyd: "AK empty ninth" |pg|| nt|stc: on 23(5@c) NS never entered the auction !!|pg|| nt|stc: and let EW play 3@s|pg|| nt|ntmon: 3@H made but we feel EW could get out more of the hand|pg|| mb|p|nt|runnerup: now @h slam|pg|| mb|p|mb|1H|mb|1N|nt|mcarroll: Dont think it makes?|pg|| mb|2H|nt|kit: Ugly misfit -- will probably get to 3NT, but might arrive in 4@S|pg|| nt|tihana: why not?|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|nt|henryb: 6N by N is cold on the lie of the cards|pg|| nt|kit: 3NT by Lair seems clear|pg|| nt|runnerup: par looks like 9 in ! ,but |pg|| nt|ntmon: N/s again off the hook|pg|| nt|mcarroll: Michaels cuebid - promising both Majors, not my style with only an 8 count vulnerable|pg|| mb|3D|nt|henryb: both minors 3-3, @dK onside, @s suit can't be misguessed if led|pg|| nt|stc: NS will play game here|pg|| nt|runnerup: not so easy to bid ,but now known to be in rigth hand if bid|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|kit: Lair looking for more it seems|pg|| nt|ntmon: pass over 2@D and X later will be for penalty|pg|| nt|tihana: only a heart|pg|| mb|p|nt|kit: I'm surprised Weichsel didn't bid 3@S, unless he feared that would show 3.|pg|| nt|henryb: Probably does not expect partner to have such robust majors for 3@d|pg|| nt|ntmon: S afraid of T/O X expecting to be passed out|pg|| nt|tihana: 2N by W would be scrambling?|pg|| pc|h2|nt|ntmon: i would say|pg|| pc|h3|nt|kit: If they do stumble into slam, a lot will ride on the lead|pg|| nt|henryb: and it will depend on whether they play in a minor or NT|pg|| nt|kit: I think they are in slam after this Q-bid|pg|| nt|mcarroll: Interesting - on the previous hand 3@H went down one in OR|pg|| pc|h9|nt|stc: friendly @s and blocked @ds help a lot|pg|| pc|h8|pg|| nt|kit: people are talking 6NT, but they aren't getting there|pg|| nt|hawe45: Bu @C might be 3-3|pg|| nt|runnerup: yes can be rigth to x some caises,but north passed hand so pass looks ok|pg|| nt|jbgood: we dont know their agreements...|pg|| nt|ntmon: definitely not a low-scoring match|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hA|pc|hK|nt|stc: playing on @s looks better, the 10 may be short|pg|| pc|h7|pg|| nt|kit: Lair went conservative|pg|| nt|henryb: we are looking at 4 hands, Kit. I am surprised they got pat 3N|pg|| nt|ntmon: 8 tricks for declarer|pg|| nt|ntmon: W in other rooms was more dynamic|pg|| nt|runnerup: yes 8 only -beacuse @h ruff so some chances to make 9 in clubs so-|pg|| pc|c6|nt|kit: 5@D is really a pretty poor contract compared to 3NT, but it will make|pg|| nt|kit: I agree Henry. Both took unclear views -- Weichsel might have bid 2@C instead of 3@C, Lair might have bid 3NT instead of 3@D, and Weichsel might have bid 3@S instead of 4@C.|pg|| pc|c8|nt|hawe45: Tries the @C-suit, but wins through the @S|pg|| nt|hawe45: This seems wrong. Try @C 3-3 - and then @S. By starting with @D, opponents might just take their 5 tricks|pg|| nt|hawe45: starting with @S... sry|pg|| nt|runnerup: 4 spades you seems to have too bad suit and too much defensive values|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cA|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|d3|pc|h4|pc|hT|pg|| nt|mcarroll: depends on how @H are played - but no real choice - so yes it makes|pg|| pc|s4|nt|stc: start with @s is normal, the A@S may be an entry for @d|pg|| nt|hawe45: Never seen so bad play - with such a good result. Now even an end-play against West|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sJ|nt|stc: the play is bad only if E has exactly ADxxx of @d|pg|| nt|jbgood: look at Versace's 1 spade inbid on 2 - and you will see why this match is swingy|pg|| pc|s7|pg|| pc|d4|nt|ntmon: 7 tricks only becauseof 2 @D S entries - well defended|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s5|pc|sA|nt|stc: but think at @d 4-3 and @c 4-2, loosing 3@d 1@s 1@c|pg|| pc|sQ|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|mcarroll: this needs an endplay for the 9th trick|pg|| pc|c3|pc|s6|nt|henryb: Steve would have done better to return a @s|pg|| pc|d8|pg|| nt|jbgood: just part of the reason of course...|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s9|nt|hawe45: No - suppose West has the @C-lenght, what should you loose by checking the @C-suit - and you might have 9 ice-cold tricks|pg|| pc|d6|pc|s8|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|c2|nt|hawe45: length|pg|| pc|dT|pg|| nt|mcarroll: - or even simpler, play N for the @SA :)|pg|| pc|dJ|nt|stc: the play is complex, hard to evaluate all %s|pg|| pc|d5|pc|c4|pc|h5|pg|| pc|c5|pc|d9|pc|c7|pc|c9|pg|| pc|sT|pc|cJ|pc|cT|pc|cK|pg|| pg|| qx|o6|st||md|4ST53HA98DQT54CJT3,SAJHT743DAK92C872,SKQ862HQ652D6CQ65,S974HKJDJ873CAK94|sv|e|nt|brgpro: 2Nt can't be Nat because with 19+ his first bid cant be 2@d|pg|| mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1D|nt|janm: Yes, that does make a lot of sense - sort of knows that despite his values, he's a little soft to get past the 3 level, and the diamonds are good enough to play opposite a doubleton if partner is 23 in the minors|pg|| mb|1S|mb|2D|mb|p|nt|janm: South didn't raise spades - maybe because she didn't want a spade lead|pg|| mb|2H|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|nt|janm: Another double digit swing on board 4 when the other table played in 6@c|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|janm: Important for N to lead a high spade here - that will beat 3NT easily. Even on a low spade lead, there may not be enough tricks|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s4|pc|sT|pc|sJ|pg|| nt|brgpro: small @s lead might give the contract away...Versace can tabke double @d finesse|pg|| nt|janm: You're right - but is that the right line? |pg|| nt|janm: There are lots of other options, although I don't know if any of them lead to 9 tricks quickly enough|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|sK|pc|s7|pg|| nt|janm: He can still revert to the double @d finess now - will he?|pg|| nt|brgpro: i am not sure...but now he has to take 4 @d tricks|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hQ|pc|hJ|pc|h8|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s9|pc|s3|nt|janm: Guess not|pg|| pc|c7|pg|| pc|s8|pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|d2|pg|| pc|s2|nt|brgpro: double finesse or playing @dQ fall 1st or 2nd... i dont know which is better|pg|| pc|c4|pc|h9|mc|8|nt|brgpro: double finesse is about 25% ( playing !j first also works when 10 is singleton)...|pg|| nt|janm: If the heart to the King had won, he could have reverted to finding 3 tricks in one of the minors, but when it lost |pg|| pg|| qx|c6|st||md|4ST53HA98DQT54CJT3,SAJHT743DAK92C872,SKQ862HQ652D6CQ65,S974HKJDJ873CAK94|sv|e|nt|Vugraphzfb: Weichsel: "ugh" Robinson: "did you have a better contract?" Weichsel: "yes, an imp or two better ... good lead"|pg|| nt|henryb: but it would only have turned a quick hand into a slow one|pg|| nt|hawe45: @H-lead would have been interesting|pg|| nt|ntmon: something N has to have finally|pg|| nt|tihana: i got some comments regarding w 1nt, i think it is ok, you?|pg|| mb|1D|nt|stc: as I said, starting with @c may establish the 5th trick for defense with @d 4-3|pg|| mb|p|nt|kit: Will certainly get to 3NT, but if overcall gets heart lead things could get interesting|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: Lair: "did you have a jump shift partner?" Weichsel: "a light jump shift" Lair: "very light" Weichsel: "not really, because I made it because of the spots" Boyd: "true"|pg|| nt|ntmon: no problem with 1NT|pg|| mb|1H|nt|runnerup: well defended ,but board still cost you 9 because your team mates were too aggressive|pg|| nt|runnerup: slam zone -this time @c easyest|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2S|nt|jbgood: not the worst bid I have seen...|pg|| mb|3D|nt|kit: Tough choice for Robinson on opening lead, particularly in light of 1@C opening|pg|| nt|henryb: I guess he is cold now|pg|| nt|kit: he is? are you sure?|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: Weichsel: "I hope you're not banking on my club suit"|pg|| nt|henryb: 3@h, 3@d and 3 black tricks|pg|| nt|kit: does he really have 3 hearts?|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: Weichsel has gone out of the room and there's no one to turn the dummy - Robinson suggests I ask one of you to do it please|pg|| nt|ntmon: 7 or 8 tricks doesn't mean a difference|pg|| nt|runnerup: here ew has to stay low 1 nt looks ok|pg|| nt|tihana: would y bid sth else?|pg|| mb|p|nt|tihana: strange bid 3cl, should south show strong balance?|pg|| mb|p|nt|ntmon: game should be reached|pg|| mb|p|nt|stc: misfit but enough points|pg|| nt|hawe45: Good lead - for declarer|pg|| nt|stc: and the most friendly lead|pg|| nt|ntmon: multi-purpose club and transfer responses in use|pg|| pc|s3|nt|stc: now many tricks|pg|| nt|ntmon: NS helped opps to devaluate their hands here|pg|| nt|jbgood: this may well be a push|pg|| pc|sA|nt|henryb: I think so|pg|| nt|ntmon: X for penalty|pg|| pc|s2|nt|kit: okay, now he is cold|pg|| nt|hawe45: Especially, if E/W duck another @D|pg|| nt|runnerup: well north wked up -is it right ? -perhaps -200 |pg|| pc|s4|pg|| pc|h3|nt|runnerup: jump in clubs doent look the way to desripe this hand all thought it make it easy to bid 6--but is it forcing even|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hK|nt|henryb: How do you prevent 3 heart tricks, Kit?|pg|| nt|hawe45: Oh - was´nt ducked|pg|| pc|hA|pg|| nt|kit: so 10 very badly needed IMPs for Lynch|pg|| nt|tihana: my gib says it will make :)|pg|| pc|d4|nt|kit: I guess you really can't|pg|| nt|tihana: got explanation: NS plays kind of Polish club so 3@c shows 17+ with 5+@c and 0-2@s|pg|| nt|mcarroll: looks like @C set as trump, now will they go for the pairs 6NT or the safer 6@C?|pg|| nt|tihana: 6CL, wanna bet?|pg|| nt|runnerup: ns can not be a choice 6 @h perhaps can|pg|| nt|runnerup: nt -not really sensibal|pg|| pc|dK|nt|ntmon: looks -2|pg|| pc|d6|nt|mcarroll: I agree|pg|| nt|tihana: shit|pg|| nt|tihana: sorrrry|pg|| nt|runnerup: even this can go off|pg|| pc|d3|pg|| nt|tihana: ok, at least we will have a swing|pg|| pc|h4|nt|ntmon: EW will negotiate @H ruff but not much more|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|ntmon: this may not be good - defensive ruffs available|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|kit: nice 7 of diamonds play if he really did it, which he might well have done|pg|| nt|runnerup: so 300 with rosruffes|pg|| nt|tihana: my gib says he didnt find|pg|| pc|h9|pg|| nt|henryb: so 460|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s7|pc|s5|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|c5|nt|Vugraphzfb: short break|pg|| nt|henryb: The ladies' match is over. Joel leading by 84.|pg|| nt|mcarroll: indeed|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c3|nt|tihana: hmm|pg|| pc|c2|pg|| pc|d7|nt|jbgood: a clever return - now it is at least 1 down|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dA|pc|s6|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h5|pc|c4|pc|h8|pg|| nt|mcarroll: Yes this is a nervy one, needs 4 tricks from Majors so must finesse, @H more dangerous and @S a 2 way guess - on the theory of vacant spaces - trusting W for longer @Ds than E, it ...|pg|| nt|mcarroll: looks right to play E for the @SQ - which works|pg|| nt|runnerup: perhaps J @d woud have helped to avoid this acsident (spade switch)|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h6|pc|c9|pc|dT|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d2|pc|s8|nt|runnerup: ns very active in other table also,but ew tryed 3 @c -no luck -1|pg|| pc|d8|pg|| pc|sT|pc|d9|pc|sQ|pc|s9|pg|| nt|jbgood: ladies are seated E and S - many have opinions on that|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c6|pc|cK|pc|cT|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|cJ|pc|c8|pc|cQ|pg|| pg|| qx|o7|st||md|1S953HQJT8DJ98CQT6,SKQ64H943D542CJ52,SAJ72H62DKT73CK74,ST8HAK75DAQ6CA983|sv|b|nt|janm: he definitely needed 4 diamonds - and N had pretty emphatically signalled for hearts (@s K)|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|janm: So another possibility for a swing on this lively set of boards|pg|| mb|1D|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hQ|pc|h3|pc|h6|pc|hA|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cT|pc|cJ|nt|janm: The 1@d bid might have gotten a @d lead if South didn't have such good hearts, but on this hand it hasn't made any difference - if N had passed E would have opened 1NT and West, with his minimum 4333 hand would probably have passed|pg|| pc|cK|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|hT|pc|h4|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h9|pc|s7|nt|brgpro: she has 6 tricks but defence dont have 7 so she can easily develop a @c for her 7th|pg|| pc|hK|pg|| nt|brgpro: coffee hand i think...Roland offered me a Whisky but when i asked it on the rocks he disappeared...|pg|| nt|janm: :) For me it's much too early in the day for anything but coffee|pg|| nt|brgpro: 1 am here in china...|pg|| nt|janm: Not sure what E is thinking of doing - playing more clubs seems natural, but maybe wants to lead a spade to dummy first so she can lead the next club towards the closed hand in case N had the KQ|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|s2|pg|| nt|janm: Might well be right for N do duck here, keeps more control of things and lets NS take 2 spades later|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|c8|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|h8|pc|d2|pc|c7|pc|h7|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s4|nt|janm: Now a club to the 8 and Q, cash the heart, exit with a spade, take two spades and lead a @d and E will take the diamond finesse for the 7th trick|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sT|pg|| pc|sA|pc|d6|pc|s5|pc|s6|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dQ|nt|brgpro: N shd never discard his @c...|pg|| mc|7|nt|brgpro: no more exit card|pg|| pg|| qx|c7|st||md|1S953HQJT8DJ98CQT6,SKQ64H943D542CJ52,SAJ72H62DKT73CK74,ST8HAK75DAQ6CA983|sv|b|nt|ntmon: 9 IMPs for opps for this enterprise|pg|| nt|ntmon: as you said Jon, they (did not) made it|pg|| mb|p|nt|ntmon: low scoring match|pg|| mb|p|mb|1D|nt|stc: on 26 N started on @c and finished -1 :)|pg|| mb|1N|nt|mcarroll: after all that allegedly knowledgable stuff, def solve the problem :)|pg|| nt|jbgood: most people think that there should be a free seating - not by gender|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|stc: W ducked @s twice, very well played|pg|| nt|runnerup: minor game -so avoid 3nt is the name off this hand|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h3|pc|h6|nt|Vugraphzfb: Boyd: "I think that is a constructive jump" Robinson: "I think it's just to play"|pg|| nt|henryb: I guess 4@s is easier than 3N|pg|| nt|runnerup: ns slam zone in @s but ew can then bid 7 clubs -ok not here and perhaps only teoria|pg|| nt|ntmon: trump lead indicated|pg|| nt|ntmon: my yesterday fellow commenator - a lady - told: we are going to see a lot of contract played by W and N|pg|| pc|hA|pg|| nt|ntmon: but EW might doubled at 5th level already if they find clubs|pg|| nt|mcarroll: now 5@C completes the picture|pg|| nt|tihana: i was spying the other room, they are in 7@H|pg|| pc|c8|nt|henryb: although both are simple|pg|| nt|runnerup: perhaps east thought west to have more and continued -now just trust and bid 5 @d|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|ntmon: from any holding :)|pg|| nt|mcarroll: True - and effective|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c4|pg|| nt|stc: don't be surprised by E bidding, the delayed X shows shortness in @h|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|stc: nice 4@s here|pg|| nt|mcarroll: goodnight!|pg|| pc|h4|nt|ntmon: EW should scramble 8 tricks|pg|| pc|h2|nt|runnerup: so something can happen in this board in many matches |pg|| nt|runnerup: really -how wrong i was|pg|| pc|hK|pg|| nt|jbgood: for the first time I have received comments from kibs supporting the seating rule - of course there are different opinions :)|pg|| pc|c3|nt|hawe45: Why can South not bid 3 @H in the first round - to play?|pg|| nt|hawe45: Or correct|pg|| nt|ntmon: quiet board here :)|pg|| pc|c6|nt|stc: 11 easy tricks now|pg|| pc|cJ|nt|runnerup: perhaps wets should bid 2nt to show both minors|pg|| pc|cK|pg|| nt|hawe45: Now 450|pg|| nt|stc: if defense starts with 2 rounds of @h declarer will be very worried :(|pg|| pc|c7|nt|mcarroll: the curse of the commentator|pg|| nt|jbgood: looks like an attempt to present declarer with a Greec gift|pg|| nt|tihana: well, no matter what seating rules are, men can play more hands if they intend to. Seating rules cant change someone bidding 3N on every occasion possible.|pg|| pc|cA|nt|mcarroll: will do now - continuing Trumps might have worked better|pg|| nt|ntmon: at least will give E un unpleasant guess|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c5|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s3|pc|sK|nt|jbgood: thanks all for opinions on the regulation - so much for that for now.)|pg|| pc|sA|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dQ|pc|d8|pc|d2|pg|| pc|c9|pc|s5|pc|s4|pc|s2|pg|| nt|hawe45: Double-dummy, you make 12 tricks with @H and another @H|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s9|pc|sQ|nt|ntmon: 6@S in OR - quite a result|pg|| pc|s7|pg|| nt|ntmon: better timing would be @S ruffs first an then @H|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d7|pc|dA|pc|d9|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|o8|st||md|2SQ976HK9DQ97CT654,SAKHJT5DKCKQJ9832,S42HQ876432D54CA7,SJT853HADAJT8632C|sv|o|mb|1C|nt|brgpro: i didnt think she would play a @s first because the only entry was needed for her @d finesse, so i thought she would simply play on @c|pg|| mb|2H!|nt|brgpro: wild hands|pg|| nt|janm: But it didn't matter, did it? E could exit with a low diamond after cashing the clubs and NS would have to give her the @d finesse|pg|| mb|3D|nt|brgpro: no...2 rounds of @s she gets squeezed already|pg|| mb|p|nt|brgpro: she cant discard her long @c|pg|| nt|janm: Oh, you're right - I always forget things like that :)|pg|| nt|brgpro: EW can make 5@d only i think|pg|| nt|brgpro: maybe 6....the long @d is with long @c...|pg|| mb|3H|nt|brgpro: and @cA on...|pg|| mb|p|mb|3S|nt|brgpro: she can discard all her 3 @s losers, unl|pg|| nt|brgpro: there are enough entries in dummy even on @d or @s lead|pg|| mb|p|nt|janm: I think they'll do well to get to 5@d|pg|| mb|5C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|brgpro: well, this doesnt make!|pg|| nt|janm: 5@c doesn't make, with the clubs 4-2|pg|| nt|brgpro: assuming @h lead this even goes down 2|pg|| nt|janm: Should E have rebid the diamonds? West certainly expressed a strong opinion with 5@c|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hA|pc|h9|pc|h5|pg|| nt|janm: Now there are 2 potential @h losers, and nothing declarer can do about it|pg|| nt|janm: So even if clubs had been 3-3 or the 10 doubleton, he'd have gone down, but very unlucky|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s6|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg|| nt|brgpro: when u put down a 7-5 hand as dummy and both ur suits are not trumps...something doesnt feel right...|pg|| nt|janm: But the auction had pretty much shown 6-5? Unless 3@s might have been only 4?|pg|| pc|cJ|nt|brgpro: i remember once a Dutch player told me: when u put down a good 8 card suit as side suit, it can never be right!|pg|| nt|janm: On this hand, one of them was going to put a good 7 card side suit down in the dummy :)|pg|| pc|cA|pc|d2|pc|c4|pg|| pc|h8|nt|brgpro: yes...|pg|| pc|d3|pc|hK|pc|hT|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|s5|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c7|pc|d6|pc|c5|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|h2|pc|d8|pc|c6|pg|| pc|c2|pc|h3|pc|s8|pc|cT|pg|| nt|janm: N did well to win the @c A, now NS just have to wait for the heart trick |pg|| pc|d7|pc|dK|pc|d4|pc|dT|pg|| nt|janm: Accurate defense|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c8|st||md|2SQ976HK9DQ97CT654,SAKHJT5DKCKQJ9832,S42HQ876432D54CA7,SJT853HADAJT8632C|sv|o|nt|stc: solid NT part score for EW|pg|| nt|ntmon: the contract goes back and forth|pg|| mb|1C|mb|3H|nt|stc: even 3NT may win|pg|| nt|runnerup: yes it is bad contrack.but it cant be if it makes -can it?|pg|| nt|ntmon: huge lead, 25:4 so far|pg|| mb|4D|nt|hawe45: This is the board, where you can - bis mistake - bid 3 NT. Easy make|pg|| nt|ntmon: five push boards in a row|pg|| mb|p|nt|mcarroll: lots of action elsewhere but pretty mundane here|pg|| nt|ntmon: strong clubs system :)|pg|| mb|5C|nt|runnerup: this looks like partscore battle -ew 10 in clubs-ns less in @h|pg|| nt|ntmon: a treatment now|pg|| mb|p|nt|hawe45: Oups|pg|| nt|ntmon: interesting how the bidding would develop w/o interference|pg|| nt|ntmon: now 2@S ?|pg|| mb|5D|nt|henryb: I'm a crawling Stayman bidder|pg|| nt|stc: and the ideal lead|pg|| nt|mcarroll: another Hamman hand?|pg|| mb|p|nt|ntmon: 4@D ?|pg|| mb|p|nt|ntmon: 1@S already implied @D ?|pg|| nt|ntmon: bid in the same second|pg|| nt|tihana: is 4h by Sabine an option?|pg|| mb|p|nt|hawe45: Switch to the @D King...|pg|| nt|mcarroll: 1 @H alerted - transfer, 2@C not alerted bur cannot be natural, |pg|| pc|hK|pc|h5|pc|h2|nt|kit: Should Lair pass 2@D? I think so. 4 diamonds more likely than 2.|pg|| pc|hA|pg|| nt|stc: Q@s, 10@h, K@d and KQ@c, FIVE key cards on side !|pg|| nt|hawe45: Bidding like this, you need it|pg|| nt|stc: but passing to the state of the match|pg|| nt|ntmon: theory (Garozzo i think said it) - against strong club, be as soon as possible at 3@S|pg|| pc|d2|nt|ntmon: good competitive decision by W|pg|| pc|d7|nt|mcarroll: good sacrifice|pg|| nt|mcarroll: 8 tricks on top and little prospect of a 9th?|pg|| pc|dK|nt|runnerup: well found -minors are not easy to be found because they can be sorter than 4 when opened|pg|| pc|d4|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hQ|nt|henryb: Earlier in this match Boyd- Robinson couldn't get out of 1N because they play puppet (I think) and went -100 in 1N with 3@s made at the other table|pg|| pc|d3|pc|h9|pg|| nt|hawe45: Oups|pg|| nt|ntmon: preempting apparently works here w/o need to bid 4@H|pg|| pc|dA|nt|ntmon: with actual score, Couples shifted to the 1st place|pg|| nt|ntmon: helping lead|pg|| pc|d9|pc|c2|pc|d5|pg|| nt|stc: %play knowing 4@h in S|pg|| nt|jbgood: 27 teams from the A-Swiss and 5 from the B go on to the KO stages - follow the exciting finish of this last round here: http://b.poznan2011.pl/mxt/swrunda5.html|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|c3|pc|h3|pg|| nt|hawe45: N/S or E/W?|pg|| pc|s6|nt|mcarroll: this would not work if W had anything in @Hs|pg|| nt|tihana: if Jacob switches to !J after club holds?|pg|| pc|sK|nt|henryb: Its a question, I think, of how likely opener is to have two major suit doubletons|pg|| pc|s2|nt|tihana: diamond jack|pg|| pc|s3|pg|| nt|hawe45: S - OK|pg|| nt|hawe45: Mistake, forget|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|d6|pc|c4|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s7|nt|runnerup: yes hey have played well and been lucky,but so it is is you play well luck follows you|pg|| nt|ntmon: claim|pg|| nt|mcarroll: indeed, this will actually make|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s4|pg|| pc|hT|nt|ntmon: i like this system with transfer responses just because there is more room for minors|pg|| pc|h4|pc|s8|pc|c5|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|o9|st||md|3SKT64HQ97DQCJT982,SA987532HK8DJCA76,SH653DKT9862CKQ43,SQJHAJT42DA7543C5|sv|e|nt|janm: And the other table did play 5@d and make 6, for yet another double digit swing|pg|| nt|brgpro: i am sure when i see mr. lu, he will tell me: Jack, u know how i beat the Italianworld champions?|pg|| mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|janm: That's one of the wonderful things about bridge - we can all play against the world's best and even beat them sone of the time|pg|| pc|h3|nt|janm: I think he can ruff 2 clubs in dummy here and then lose 2 spades - is that the right line single dummy?|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h7|pc|h8|pg|| pc|c5|nt|janm: With the heart lead, he could ruff just one club and pitch the other, but Wang tangled his entries by ducking the heart, and of course he doesn't know they're 3-3 (or maybe he does if the @h 3 was a 3rd and low lead)|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c3|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c4|pc|sJ|pc|c8|pg|| pc|dA|pc|dQ|pc|dJ|pc|d6|pg|| pc|d3|pc|h9|pc|s2|pc|d8|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cK|nt|brgpro: he is afraid that the @h are 5-1|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|c9|pg|| pc|d4|pc|hQ|pc|s3|pc|dT|pg|| pc|sA|pc|d2|pc|h2|pc|s4|pg|| nt|brgpro: now he will make only 10|pg|| nt|janm: So taking the simple line of ruffing 2 clubs and conceding two trumps - should see a claim now|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h5|pc|hA|pc|s6|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c9|st||md|3SKT64HQ97DQCJT982,SA987532HK8DJCA76,SH653DKT9862CKQ43,SQJHAJT42DA7543C5|sv|e|nt|stc: This game showed how important J are, each one was worth a trick !|pg|| nt|ntmon: Roland Wald uses to say "club suit died in 50-ties"|pg|| mb|p|nt|kit: Guaranteed to wrongside 3NT, and he succeeds|pg|| nt|hawe45: Called Jackpot|pg|| mb|1H|nt|stc: lol|pg|| nt|ntmon: so why do not do something in systems to recover?|pg|| mb|p|mb|1S|nt|runnerup: ns has points but west distribution so perhaps 2 spades |pg|| mb|2D|nt|kit: 4@D might well make|pg|| nt|henryb: Many of us are not convinced of 3N gambling as a good bid, because if 3N is right the wrong person will be playing it|pg|| nt|henryb: I open 1@c with Steve's hand|pg|| nt|kit: Not sure what Weichsel is thinking -- maybe of raising, maybe wondering if 4@D is conventional|pg|| mb|p|nt|henryb: and rebid 2@c and 3@c|pg|| nt|henryb: or 4@c if indicated|pg|| nt|henryb: to show the solid suit|pg|| nt|kit: I don't know what Boyd is thinking of doing|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: He's definitely thinking about something|pg|| mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfb: and that must have been what|pg|| nt|stc: S noticed that all cards are good for declarer in this match|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|nt|henryb: If I opened 1@c the auction would go 1@c-1@h-2@c-3N and we would get a low diamond lead|pg|| nt|kit: Interesting -- maybe right, but still .....|pg|| nt|mr murray: talk to u later. Going out to play poker now. Took me all day to get ready to go out and play a few hours. No energy in my body at all :)|pg|| nt|kit: Now Weichsel does have a problem -- who can make what?|pg|| nt|ntmon: taking a low road|pg|| nt|runnerup: now have to find @h out|pg|| nt|runnerup: @h said i not ace @h|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfb: Boyd: "all that for me, eh?" Robinson: "surprise"|pg|| nt|henryb: Well, would North really bid 2@d after 1@c-1@h?|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: He did in the othe room :)|pg|| nt|runnerup: in this vulnerability -this looks normal bidding seqwence |pg|| pc|cK|pc|c5|nt|ntmon: interesting play after @C lead|pg|| nt|jbgood: big gain for China on the last one...|pg|| nt|jbgood: 5 @c by W was not a success|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cA|pg|| nt|ntmon: good decision by Yan to overrule partner's suit|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c3|nt|henryb: opposite a passed partner?|pg|| pc|sJ|nt|kit: hard to see defense getting this wrong, so likely 3 IMPs for Lynch|pg|| pc|c2|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h7|pc|hK|pc|h3|pg|| nt|ntmon: no brainer|pg|| pc|c7|nt|tihana: even if he continues with @Hs it is not easy for declarer|pg|| nt|runnerup: after this lead nothimg to do anyway-so lead was critical point |pg|| pc|c4|pc|sQ|nt|kit: 2 club entries in dummy, but not good enough|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: declarer :) - Boyd is playing this|pg|| pc|c8|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h9|pc|h8|pc|h5|pg|| nt|henryb: picky, Jan, picky|pg|| pc|dA|nt|tihana: where you make 9 tricks?|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|kit: right -- in hand|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d2|pg|| pc|d3|nt|jbgood: 2 trump losers and next|pg|| pc|c9|pc|s2|pc|d6|pg|| pc|sA|pc|d8|pc|d4|pc|s4|pg|| nt|ntmon: has enough intermediates|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o10|st||md|4SQT5HK652DKT83CJT,SK93HJDA765CQ9654,SJ86HAQ74DQ9CAK83,SA742HT983DJ42C72|sv|b|nt|janm: Making only 4 because the diamond ruffs had shortened him enough he couldn't drive out the trumps|pg|| nt|brgpro: 3NT by NS will work better than 4@h|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|janm: We've certainly seen a lot of uneven splits in these boards!|pg|| nt|brgpro: but, i think both rooms will be in 4@H-1|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|nt|janm: It seems normal to get to 4@h doesn't it?|pg|| mb|2C|an| |nt|brgpro: at least this room will|pg|| mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|janm: A known 4-4 @h fit and both hands have a doubleton, seems completely normal|pg|| nt|brgpro: yes, |pg|| pc|c7|nt|janm: I don't see any reasonable auction to 3NT, do you?|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|hJ|pg|| nt|brgpro: out of my league...|pg|| nt|janm: I hear that at the other table, S raised 1NT to 3, deciding that with all those secondary honors and two tens it wasn't worth looking for a 4-4 heart fit - good judgment and will be rewarded with another big swing|pg|| nt|janm: Or even 3 tens :)|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hT|pc|h5|pc|c6|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|cJ|pc|c5|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|d9|pc|d4|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s6|pc|sA|mc|9|pg|| qx|c10|st||md|4SQT5HK652DKT83CJT,SK93HJDA765CQ9654,SJ86HAQ74DQ9CAK83,SA742HT983DJ42C72|sv|b|nt|henryb: yes, and surely if Boyd had the @dA he would have drawn trump, crossed to the @dA to take his pitch|pg|| nt|kit: right -- declarer would (should) never have played that way with ace of diamonds|pg|| nt|henryb: after ruffing out the heart|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: Boyd: "you might have something - might have some distribution - might have the J of @ss. I had an opening bid, you had an opening bid, why should we defend 4@d. I don't know if we ...|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: beat 4@d"|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: Weichsel: "we haven't discussed what that means in balancing seat" Lair: "I thought we played better minor for Majors" a little more discussion|pg|| nt|ntmon: lst hand of the set|pg|| nt|Walddk7: 27+5 qualify for the Round of 32 tomorrow after five rounds of Swiss today. 27 from Swiss A and 5 from B|pg|| nt|runnerup: 1 @c -etc..|pg|| nt|jbgood: these teams are of course safe to go on to the round of 32 |pg|| mb|p|nt|stc: OR also played the lucky 3NT, 11+12=26|pg|| mb|p|nt|kit: Weischel has choice of declaring 2NT or 1@C it looks like|pg|| nt|henryb: 2N does better|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: Robinson: "did you have a diamond stopper?" Boyd: "I had K doubleton ... I had a stopper from my side, not from yours"|pg|| nt|ntmon: last hand of Swiss |pg|| mb|p|nt|ntmon: finally a turnaround board 18 - EW allowed to 5@D|pg|| mb|1N|nt|jbgood: last one now - hope you have enjoyed as much as I have:)|pg|| mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfb: Weichsel asks about the lead: "standard from feser than 4, or promises the J if from 4 or more"|pg|| nt|kit: he has down 1, but may take heart finesse trying to make and go down many|pg|| nt|tihana: tiny 3N?|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|nt|runnerup: here ns must avoid 4 @s 4 @h or 3nt has chances|pg|| nt|mcarroll: If they declare a @H contract, E will have a nasty surprise for them|pg|| nt|ntmon: even in 4@S a lot to do for declarer|pg|| mb|p|nt|ntmon: 3NT has good chance to be bid after 3@C from S|pg|| nt|tihana: lot of 10s|pg|| pc|hT|nt|ntmon: thx to our operator in Poznan - Lukasz|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pg|| nt|runnerup: but even if bid it is not made yet|pg|| nt|ntmon: 3@D to find 5th spade i think|pg|| nt|mcarroll: good pass ny N|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d4|nt|kit: At this point, Weichsel has in essence exposed his entire hand|pg|| nt|ntmon: but whole bidding a bid murky now|pg|| nt|ntmon: bit*|pg|| pc|d3|nt|mcarroll: by|pg|| pc|d5|pg|| nt|tihana: bi|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d2|nt|ntmon: 3NT isn't pretty|pg|| pc|dT|nt|runnerup: now diamond lead gives chances in this|pg|| nt|ntmon: S can shed a @h on 3rd diamond|pg|| pc|dA|pg|| nt|ntmon: @DJ and @CQ well placed for declarer|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c3|nt|runnerup: so is it possible for ns to open + imps|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cT|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s3|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pg|| nt|mcarroll: easy to get overboard |pg|| pc|c7|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|nt|kit: Perhaps he should not have cashed high heart first, just led spade to dummy, led jack of hearts, and seen if he got a cover|pg|| pc|cA|pg|| pc|s6|nt|henryb: He might go up with the @hK on the theory that 1@c is 2 down and either the @hQ drops and he makes 3 or it does not and he is only 1 down|pg|| pc|s2|nt|mcarroll: yes - 2nd worst game contract - 4@S is the only game with any real prospect|pg|| nt|ntmon: down 4|pg|| pc|sT|nt|ntmon: so an opportunity for rossard to equal the score|pg|| nt|ntmon: all boards played here, looking for last comparison|pg|| nt|ntmon: thx for watching, thx operator for fine job|pg|| nt|mcarroll: Playing 4@S in OR|pg|| nt|ntmon: see you all next round |pg|| nt|ntmon: bye|pg|| pc|sK|pg|| nt|tihana: vwdone to avoid heart fit |pg|| pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|s4|pc|h5|pg|| pc|s8|nt|ntmon: 4@S is questionable because if S did not opened 2@S, she is around 7 HCP and implied bad @S suit|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sQ|pc|s9|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d6|nt|tihana: with 2 balanced hands|pg|| pc|c8|nt|stc: not best defense|pg|| pc|dJ|pg|| mc|10|nt|jbgood: yes - may be a Lavazza win on this one |pg|| nt|tihana: thank you all, see y tomorrow|pg|| nt|jbgood: bye all - thanks for your insightful inputs:)|pg|| nt|ntmon: thx my fellow commentators and specs for thier input|pg|| nt|ntmon: bye all|pg|| pg||