vg|C EC 2011 Mixed Teams Round Robin,5_5,I,11,20,Fantoni,0,Neve,0| rs|5DNx-1,3HS+2,4HN+2,6HS=,6SSx-1,6SNx-1,4SSx=,4HE-1,3DW+1,2DW+3,4HW-1,5DSx-1,1NE-2,1NE-1,1NW=,1NW+2,3NW-1,3NW-1,3SE-4,3NN=| pn|M Balint,J Rombaut,Nunes,V Reess,Neve,Fantoni,Allix,Riolo |pg|| qx|o11|st||md|1ST82HKQT42D972CQ6,SAQ97HJ95DQCAT842,SK5HA83DAJT6543C3,SJ643H76DK8CKJ975|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1D|mb|1H|an|transfer|nt|vugraphpl3: hello everyone!|pg|| nt|yo_yo: hello everyone, hi simona|pg|| mb|2H|nt|yo_yo: welcome back to the Mixed teams in Poznam|pg|| mb|3S|mb|4H|mb|4S|nt|ntmon: welcome to everybody|pg|| nt|yo_yo: The Men sit North & West|pg|| mb|5D|nt|yo_yo: so you might see the majority of the contracts played by North & West ....we shall see :)|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cK|nt|ntmon: actually we see the match of group G, Fantoni currenly 2nd, Neve 5th|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c2|pc|c3|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|s5|pg|| pc|cA|pc|d6|pc|c5|pc|cQ|pg|| nt|yo_yo: If you want to see what Nunes looks like, here he is: http://www.worldbridge.org/people/person.asp?qryid=5348|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h6|pc|hK|pc|h5|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dQ|nt|ntmon: 3 obvious tricks for defense|pg|| pc|dA|mc|10|pg|| qx|c11|st||md|1ST82HKQT42D972CQ6,SAQ97HJ95DQCAT842,SK5HA83DAJT6543C3,SJ643H76DK8CKJ975|sv|o|nt|vugraphzgy: Hello everyone, Welcome to the 2 segment of the Israeli Grand Prize 2011 - individual event|pg|| nt|ntmon: welcome to everyone again|pg|| nt|vugraphzgy: the current standing:|pg|| nt|vugraphzgy: http://www.israel-grand-prize.com/result/total.php|pg|| nt|jcomyn: hi all|pg|| nt|jcomyn: an aul 3nt|pg|| nt|roswolf: hi all|pg|| nt|roswolf: a trap hand for n/s|pg|| nt|roswolf: treating the north hand as a weak 2 has a lot to reccommend it|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Please shut down, wrong team names|pg|| nt|Walddk2: and wait for the open room operator to reopen|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Please|pg|| nt|granguru: hi all|pg|| nt|xenya: hello everyone|pg|| nt|mamos: hi|pg|| mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1D|nt|rcerreto: hi everyone|pg|| mb|d|nt|rcerreto: this is Rodolfo Cerreto, welcome |pg|| nt|roswolf: taking her medicine|pg|| nt|xenya: 4@H for NS but might not be easy to get there|pg|| mb|1H|nt|jcomyn: thats a big 3s bid|pg|| mb|1S|nt|peachy: Hi everybody|pg|| nt|xenya: hello Raija|pg|| mb|d|nt|vugraphpl1: sry|pg|| nt|jcomyn: morning all|pg|| nt|vugraphpl1: quicly bid|pg|| nt|jcomyn: just having fun obviously|pg|| nt|jcomyn: clearly just trying out the machine|pg|| nt|garnetts: true|pg|| nt|sybarra: welcome back lets try it again |pg|| nt|mamos: are we off now?|pg|| nt|sybarra: hopefully "on" |pg|| nt|mamos: lol this is Group K third and second|pg|| nt|sybarra: looks like a multi auction |pg|| nt|mamos: South prefers 2@s to 2@h|pg|| nt|sybarra: mandatory 2 @H, and here we go on interesting scramble |pg|| nt|sybarra: interesting it was a 7 card multi |pg|| nt|mamos: NS have the same number of trumps in 2@S as in 2@h :)|pg|| nt|sybarra: Running scores at http://b.poznan2011.pl/mxt/rrrunda2.html|pg|| nt|mamos: are we stuck?|pg|| mb|p|nt|peachy: Welcome to 5th European Open Championships. "Open" meaning that entry is open to anybody with good standing in their National Bridge Organization. |pg|| mb|2H|nt|jcomyn: straight from La Boheme morning|pg|| nt|peachy: All events transnational. This is Round 5 of qualifying round robins in 15 groups of 6 teams each in the Mixed Teams. |pg|| mb|p|nt|vugraphzgy: the current leader is Dror Padon - the winner of last year's competition|pg|| nt|granguru: EW are playing precision |pg|| nt|xenya: even with the support double reaching game is a long way off|pg|| nt|Walddk7: Welcome to Jon Sveindal|pg|| mb|p|nt|jcomyn: must be heading for 6c|pg|| nt|Walddk7: and hello Raija and Vladimir|pg|| mb|2S|nt|Walddk7: and all specs|pg|| nt|peachy: To answer kibitzer question> entry not limited to European countries|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|ntmon: NS trying to steal the hand|pg|| nt|vugraphzgy: This is the last of 3 parts of this competition - following the pairs and teams that were played earlier|pg|| nt|vugraphzgy: In each event everyplayer gets up to 100 points - according to the posision|pg|| nt|jcomyn: good stop|pg|| nt|dburn: no one seems to want to do very much bidding at this table|pg|| mb|3H|mb|p|nt|granguru: They use Polish leads that means low from a doubleton|pg|| nt|dburn: that's a relief - for a while I thought they were just arguing with each other|pg|| nt|dburn: whereas at the other, everyone was willing to do quite a lot|pg|| nt|jbgood: N isnt done yet|pg|| nt|peachy: http://www.poznan2011.pl/ Results/running scores|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|dQ|nt|granguru: and udca|pg|| nt|dburn: declarer ought probably just to win this and play another diamond|pg|| pc|dA|nt|ntmon: .. 4@C is the limit for EW|pg|| pc|d8|nt|jcomyn: if he knew thnat he would bid 6|pg|| pc|d7|pg|| nt|peachy: Click on the team name, to get individual player names, on the Results page|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dK|nt|xenya: however stopping in 3@H is enough for a 7-imp gain|pg|| pc|d2|pc|c2|pg|| nt|jbgood: tough fight for a place among the 3 to qualify for the A-Swiss in this group|pg|| pc|c5|nt|granguru: hi david|pg|| nt|dburn: hello|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cA|pc|c3|pg|| nt|peachy: The Bulletin front page explains how the qualification works, some changes were made due to number of entries |pg|| nt|peachy: http://www.eurobridge.org/competitions/11Poznan/Bulletins/bul01.pdf|pg|| nt|dburn: better cash that spade to avoid another overtrick - not that it matters to the IMP score|pg|| pc|c4|pc|h3|pc|c7|pc|c6|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|h2|pc|h5|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h7|pc|hK|nt|ntmon: claim|pg|| pc|h9|pg|| nt|dburn: declarer could have taken eleven tricks by playing on spades, but he has time for only ten now|pg|| nt|dburn: though North has to throw all his diamonds, and he may not find that so easy|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hJ|mc|11|pg|| qx|o12|st||md|2SA43HKJT5DT94CA87,SQ9H874DK87652C54,ST765HAQ93DACKQJ9,SKJ82H62DQJ3CT632|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|nt|yo_yo: Opening 1NT with a singleton is unusual but he wants to play the contract|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dQ|nt|yo_yo: If he had opened 1@C his partner would have been declarer|pg|| nt|ntmon: 6 @H is on|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d8|pc|dA|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|h4|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h6|pc|hT|pc|h7|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d2|pc|hQ|pc|d3|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c4|pg|| pc|dT|mc|12|pg|| qx|c12|st||md|2SA43HKJT5DT94CA87,SQ9H874DK87652C54,ST765HAQ93DACKQJ9,SKJ82H62DQJ3CT632|sv|n|nt|ntmon: what is the award for overall winner?|pg|| nt|Walddk3: Welcome to Yuval and PS|pg|| nt|yuval10: rehi all|pg|| nt|psridhar: hi all Thx Roland )|pg|| nt|vugraphpl1: sorry.|pg|| nt|vugraphpl1: problem with hand's|pg|| nt|dburn: this is a decent slam|pg|| nt|dburn: not bid at the other table, so a chance for Neve|pg|| nt|jbgood: solid trump suit - only to ruff 2 @ds for 12|pg|| nt|dburn: not an easy chance, though - this is a perfect fit|pg|| nt|jbgood: y - def not easy to bid|pg|| mb|p|nt|jcomyn: 3nt this time|pg|| nt|dburn: tough hand for East-West if North-Sout bid a lot of spades|pg|| mb|1C|mb|p|nt|ntmon: hi all|pg|| nt|yuval10: first prize is 3000 Euro's|pg|| mb|1H|nt|mamos: Im going to keep quiet|pg|| mb|p|nt|Walddk3: http://www.israel-grand-prize.com/result/indi.php|pg|| nt|ntmon: not bad|pg|| nt|psridhar: any Tax?|pg|| nt|dburn: still, more of a chance after this start than after 1NT, which was opened at the other table|pg|| mb|3H|mb|p|nt|xenya: indeed|pg|| nt|dburn: even so, South will do very well to move in search of a slam|pg|| nt|peachy: 11 of South's 12 HCP in aces and kings, that alone should excite, despite bad shape|pg|| nt|xenya: i can't see S just bidding game at this point|pg|| mb|3S|nt|dburn: but I guess they will not bid a slam|pg|| mb|p|nt|mamos: well not for long|pg|| nt|granguru: no 5 contract with best defense|pg|| nt|dburn: and they judged pretty well to play in clubs, not hearts|pg|| mb|4C|nt|mamos: wb|pg|| nt|granguru: that is @H lead !(hard)|pg|| nt|granguru: no ..declarer discards on @D|pg|| nt|dburn: not good enough - West can throw his spade loser on a diamond if North leads a heart|pg|| nt|granguru: yup|pg|| nt|granguru: so iron contract|pg|| nt|jbgood: neither could she|pg|| mb|p|nt|jcomyn: wrong again|pg|| nt|granguru: N had the idea...|pg|| mb|4H|nt|dburn: still, North will need to evaluate his hand well also|pg|| mb|p|nt|mamos: a game on pretty thin values here|pg|| nt|jbgood: 4@d from N might have been more encouraging for S|pg|| mb|4N|nt|granguru: didnt lead his entry suit|pg|| mb|p|nt|sybarra: good news is it makes|pg|| nt|jbgood: well - he doesnt care|pg|| mb|5D|nt|ntmon: NS can take 8 tricks now |pg|| nt|xenya: now they are there|pg|| mb|p|nt|psridhar: revert to @s now|pg|| nt|yuval10: list of the prizes you can see here:|pg|| nt|yuval10: http://www.israel-grand-prize.com/eprizes.php|pg|| nt|peachy: It definitely helped to avoid 1NT opening with this|pg|| nt|jbgood: after 3@s he had made his mind up|pg|| mb|6H|mb|p|nt|mamos: yep apparently so :)|pg|| mb|p|nt|psyck: well played|pg|| mb|p|nt|jbgood: as a kib points out - the noncue of @d from S was encouraging for N:)|pg|| nt|xenya: the play should be easy -- just 2 diamond ruffs in hand|pg|| nt|xenya: in dummy|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dA|nt|ntmon: change |pg|| nt|dburn: perhaps on a spade lead, this actually needed 3-2 trumps|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d9|pg|| nt|dburn: still, that's plenty good enough odds for a small slam|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|h5|pc|h4|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|hT|pc|h7|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d2|nt|psridhar: makes sense -tested @C and then fell back to @s |pg|| pc|h9|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c6|pc|cA|pc|c4|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d5|pc|hQ|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s8|nt|Walddk3: Welcome to Constantin|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s9|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|o13|st||md|3SAJT75HQDTCKQJ952,S3HAJ932DAKJ85CT8,SKQ98H85DQ973CA74,S642HKT764D642C63|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|nt|yo_yo: difficult to bid 6 |pg|| nt|ntmon: play goes with nice speed |pg|| nt|vugraphpl3: yes... to fast i think!!|pg|| mb|1C|mb|1H|mb|d|an|3+ Spades|mb|4H|nt|yo_yo: double shows @S suit|pg|| mb|4S|mb|5H|nt|yo_yo: now south cant check on aces but has a great hand|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|mb|5S|nt|ntmon: S colud not hope for so many keycardss|pg|| mb|p|nt|yo_yo: South doesnt fancy defending 5@Hx quite rightly |pg|| nt|ntmon: i like S approach|pg|| mb|6S|mb|p|nt|yo_yo: I dont think nunes can bid on|pg|| mb|p|nt|yo_yo: ooops he did|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|dT|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h4|pc|hQ|pg|| nt|ntmon: i thought that S did maximum to prevent this|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c13|st||md|3SAJT75HQDTCKQJ952,S3HAJ932DAKJ85CT8,SKQ98H85DQ973CA74,S642HKT764D642C63|sv|b|nt|stc: hi|pg|| nt|stc: I like Indy, less science and more judgement :)|pg|| nt|jcomyn: 3nt - or dare i say it|pg|| nt|mamos: How many of the 90 tables do you think will bid that Shirley?:)|pg|| nt|sybarra: so far less brutal than last set, |pg|| nt|mamos: game might not make this time|pg|| nt|granguru: N thought probably on a minor 2-suited hand in dummy|pg|| nt|dburn: indeed - he would not expect his partner to have a singleton heart|pg|| nt|jbgood: this doesnt look good for Fantoni either|pg|| mb|p|nt|sybarra: might be difficult to stay our of game here |pg|| mb|p|nt|sybarra: *stay out|pg|| mb|1C|nt|ntmon: but you need to know the system anyway|pg|| nt|yuval10: this looks like a stright-forward 4@h which probably makes 5|pg|| nt|yuval10: def. has to cash 3 first tricks out, if they succceed i predict they'll get a big reward and a close to top result|pg|| nt|psridhar: versatile game this Bridge-engages varied interests , since the game has many facets-science, judgment, analysis , psychology, etc|pg|| nt|xenya: great start for Neve -- and more to come here? |pg|| mb|1H|nt|jcomyn: are we under way with a grand slam|pg|| nt|garnetts: This looks like a bidding challenge hand 7NT a spread and nearly impossible to bid |pg|| nt|mamos: and for sure they'll bid it if they did the last one|pg|| mb|1S|mb|2H|nt|jcomyn: maybe but 7c should be bid|pg|| nt|dburn: South might rely on a tried and trusted weapon at some point|pg|| mb|4H|nt|dburn: that auction won't be duplicated at many tables|pg|| nt|dburn: straight out of Acol Road, West Hampstead, London, England|pg|| nt|peachy: the one they used last hand too :)|pg|| nt|dburn: that at least shows they trust it|pg|| mb|5D|nt|garnetts: some people will bid it vai 2NT-3NT |pg|| nt|jcomyn: 5c better of course|pg|| nt|Walddk5: Good morning to Victor Silverstone|pg|| nt|odysseus69: morning all|pg|| nt|jbgood: simple raise on a 5 card support - a bit conservative...|pg|| nt|dburn: still, now they can't try it|pg|| mb|5S|nt|yuval10: of course, small @c lead from N means 12 tricks|pg|| nt|stc: yes, not easy for N to play @s|pg|| nt|psridhar: this is IMPs right? OTs have less importance ?|pg|| nt|yuval10: no|pg|| nt|psyck: 4@d on 2N was transfer accordimng to cc|pg|| nt|yuval10: MP's i'm affraid|pg|| nt|psyck: maybe E forgot, so this sequence should be slam interest|pg|| nt|ntmon: MP for sure|pg|| nt|psridhar: but our scoreboard above says IMPs....|pg|| nt|Walddk3: Yes, but it is MP|pg|| nt|stc: I don't think it may be Individual at IMPs|pg|| nt|Walddk3: http://www.israel-grand-prize.com/result/indi.php look|pg|| nt|psyck: bbo cannot show scores with 1 mp table shown|pg|| mb|6D|nt|psridhar: so Matchpoints it is ...|pg|| nt|jcomyn: noiw maybe 7h|pg|| nt|sybarra: may have staved off the @S lead |pg|| nt|dburn: and now they need to guess well|pg|| nt|jbgood: is 1@h canape?|pg|| nt|dburn: I don't know - 6@d is a bit surprising anyway|pg|| nt|peachy: Dbl prob should deny diamond 1st round control|pg|| nt|dburn: I guess it's not impossible from South's point of view that East-West can actually make a slam of their own|pg|| nt|peachy: The 4H bid by S said it is "our hand"|pg|| mb|6S|nt|garnetts: 4@D by the passed hand would have got them there |pg|| nt|sybarra: but is that enough?|pg|| nt|mamos: well the defence will probaly have this and one more chance to get the defence right|pg|| mb|d|nt|yuval10: now after W denied @s control|pg|| nt|jcomyn: good night|pg|| mb|p|nt|jcomyn: to 3nt i mean|pg|| mb|p|nt|jcomyn: now to me that is an awful bid|pg|| nt|odysseus69: good hand for strong club- should have avoided 3NT but North rushed in|pg|| nt|jcomyn: yes they in forcing situastion so why not 2nt|pg|| nt|mamos: needs Club return and Spade immediately I think|pg|| nt|sybarra: not sure that is obviuos|pg|| nt|sybarra: *obvious |pg|| nt|mamos: East can see the danger in the dummy|pg|| nt|mamos: I think Club is clear|pg|| nt|mamos: she knows she needs Spade from partner|pg|| mb|p|nt|yuval10: perhaps it's easier for N to find the winning lead|pg|| nt|yuval10: a lot of MP's are in stake now|pg|| nt|psyck: the def will get it right, very costly for E to forget the cc|pg|| nt|jcomyn: playing precision whats the rush|pg|| nt|garnetts: 6@H is virtually a nonsense bid unless he is gambling that they will lead the wrong thing |pg|| nt|dburn: still, that had better not be Lightner...|pg|| pc|d4|nt|yuval10: very well done by N|pg|| nt|psyck: 2 pages should not be hard to remember :)|pg|| pc|dT|nt|jcomyn: why not 3s and then 4d by s|pg|| nt|dburn: it wasn't|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d3|pg|| nt|psridhar: i agree that this sequence by E is slammish in many conventions -but very few define it, in other words what is opener required to do ?|pg|| nt|peachy: I did not like the guess of 6S|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h7|nt|granguru: :)|pg|| nt|dburn: mind you, Reese or Marx or Simon might have ducked that diamond|pg|| nt|dburn: then, East could eventually have been endplayed in the majors|pg|| nt|granguru: @D9 asks for @H|pg|| nt|dburn: as it is, East can win a heart and exit with a diamond|pg|| nt|dburn: and declarer will eventually lose a spade|pg|| pc|hQ|pg|| nt|psyck: with fit and max hand, i suppose opener is to make a forward going bid or rkc|pg|| nt|granguru: it was worthwhile for duckworth to duck|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h8|pc|hT|nt|odysseus69: needs to decide to play for singleton club king with West or jack with East- he decided quicker than i could type|pg|| nt|jcomyn: wont beat italians horsing around|pg|| nt|mamos: I only have a slight advantage over East of course |pg|| nt|jbgood: Fantoni in 5th pos after the first 2|pg|| pc|s5|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|s2|pg|| nt|dburn: but not any more|pg|| nt|peachy: only one ace, he cannot expect a passed partner to provide the missing controls|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|psridhar: if responder is looking for fit, he has a balanced hand realtively? else he can trf and bid a 2nd suit-say 2-7-2-2 type ?|pg|| nt|psridhar: will KX,K109XXXX,XX,QX do?|pg|| nt|stc: Many players accept the transfer only with fit - it is a big advantage for such hands|pg|| nt|psridhar: i suggest you play it as = i dont need any fit ; i need a control rich hand -either pure all aces and kings in 20hcp OR some source of tricks like KQJXX in side suit with opener ...|pg|| nt|psridhar: with controls outside|pg|| nt|stc: the price is that you risk be too high |pg|| nt|psyck: that is an interesting & sensible treatment PS. |pg|| nt|stc: do we have standings after first session ?|pg|| nt|Walddk3: http://www.israel-grand-prize.com/result/indi.php|pg|| nt|psridhar: the logic is -thats the only value the responder cannot find out easily since 2N opg is space consuming|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sT|pc|d5|pg|| nt|dburn: it didn't work out well, true - but if you exchange the black-suit threes, it would have been a winner|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s6|nt|peachy: "She"|pg|| pc|sJ|nt|peachy: sorry|pg|| pc|h3|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cT|pc|cA|nt|jcomyn: 5this deserves to lose big imps on board 1|pg|| pc|c3|pg|| mc|11|nt|sybarra: really much easier from here |pg|| pg|| qx|o14|st||md|4SAJ9875H6DA2CAQ94,SK3HAT9532DJ97C52,ST42HQ4DT863CKT83,SQ6HKJ87DKQ54CJ76|sv|o|nt|yo_yo: South did well I thought|pg|| mb|1D|nt|ntmon: so we continue with hair-raising speed :)|pg|| mb|1S|mb|2H|nt|yo_yo: South very pretty girl: http://www.worldbridge.org/people/person.asp?qryid=22791|pg|| mb|2S|mb|4H|mb|4S|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|nt|yo_yo: Simona did Nunes say anything?|pg|| mb|p|nt|vugraphpl3: no. is guiet|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s2|nt|yo_yo: this is making|pg|| pc|s6|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|h7|pc|h6|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|s5|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dJ|pc|d6|pc|d4|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c14|st||md|4SAJ9875H6DA2CAQ94,SK3HAT9532DJ97C52,ST42HQ4DT863CKT83,SQ6HKJ87DKQ54CJ76|sv|o|nt|Walddk3: Maybe North prefers to be anonymous|pg|| nt|yuval10: Covalu still leading, with Padon 2nd, in the overall standings|pg|| nt|vugraphzgy: :) - just haven't seated yet...|pg|| nt|yuval10: http://www.israel-grand-prize.com/result/total.php|pg|| nt|Walddk3: We would approve of 1@H|pg|| nt|Walddk3: even from Alon|pg|| nt|jcomyn: what happened there|pg|| nt|odysseus69: presumably 3C from North would be forcing- then 3H from South and 3NT avoided|pg|| nt|granguru: in the meanwhile ...defense gives a trick away|pg|| nt|dburn: and there really wasn't any rush to play that heart - where were any heart losers going?|pg|| nt|dburn: not dull, these boards - plenty of distribution all afternoon|pg|| nt|peachy: Running scores http://www.eurobridge.org/competitions/11Poznan/Bulletins/bul01.pdf|pg|| nt|peachy: This is Group G|pg|| nt|peachy: Wrong link, results here http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg|| mb|1D|nt|jcomyn: surely 3nt is one down|pg|| mb|1S|nt|mamos: Diamond 7 at the other table 2 here if that makes a difference defender found Club switch for deserved swing|pg|| mb|d|nt|jcomyn: anyone likme to let us know who's playing and who sitting ew|pg|| nt|jbgood: or here: http://b.poznan2011.pl/mxt/rrrunda5.html|pg|| mb|p|nt|odysseus69: East will hope to come in later with minors- may be a bit high when it gets back to him|pg|| nt|mamos: i presume thats a 15-17 NT but still has a lot of tricks |pg|| mb|2H|nt|sybarra: not everyone's choice of 1 nt, but this will work |pg|| nt|jbgood: dbl? 3 @c? |pg|| nt|dburn: unless North raised to 2@s|pg|| nt|jbgood: hehe - agree|pg|| nt|peachy: Maybe she passed and W bid 4H|pg|| mb|2S|nt|dburn: not 4@h, surely|pg|| mb|4H|nt|garnetts: bad 6@C contract possible --will boil down to getting the trumps right --and guessing the spades |pg|| nt|jcomyn: anyone know what happened on bd 13|pg|| nt|granguru: looks like 3NT by South is the best spot here|pg|| nt|peachy: I would not Pass though|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|jcomyn: I dont like 1nt on the s handf with very poor spades|pg|| nt|garnetts: Little choice I imagine systemically |pg|| mb|p|nt|jcomyn: this is a bit daft when you dpont know who isd playing against whom|pg|| pc|sA|nt|jcomyn: you can always bid 1D and catch up later|pg|| nt|jbgood: pass was out of the question - 2@s didnt give any valuable info for prd |pg|| pc|s3|nt|dburn: hard to reach 3NT after 4@d - not a good advertisement for the method|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s6|pg|| nt|jcomyn: all yopu really want to do is play 3nt from N|pg|| nt|odysseus69: no but on 12 where declarer misplayed 2H and went down they made 9 tricks next door|pg|| pc|s5|nt|stc: the interesting point here will be the handling of zje trump suit|pg|| nt|psridhar: accurate bidding by Schwartz -his seq shows about what he has here|pg|| nt|Walddk3: He will lose a trick in hearts I predict|pg|| nt|yuval10: then maybe a ruff too|pg|| nt|garnetts: Maybe but an easier thing to do is reverse 1@S and 1NT |pg|| pc|sK|nt|stc: the %play is to finesse the 2nd round of @h|pg|| nt|yuval10: if he leads @d, and he does|pg|| nt|psyck: on @d lead, dec may ignore restricted choice|pg|| nt|stc: he better does :)|pg|| pc|s4|nt|sybarra: we can see an easy 7 tricks |pg|| nt|mamos: 3NT could so easily be on |pg|| nt|sybarra: and where 7 often 8|pg|| pc|sQ|pg|| nt|garnetts: This was first used by the Cambridge Uni playes about 35 years ago when the modified C C Wei's precision |pg|| pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|h8|pc|h6|pg|| nt|garnetts: well they got to it --now it will come down to guesswork |pg|| nt|jcomyn: this will take some guessing|pg|| nt|jcomyn: its the hand with 4D and CK off 3nt|pg|| pc|hT|nt|stc: safety plays at MP are not a must|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|odysseus69: never cover an honour with an honour - i think thats the rule|pg|| nt|dburn: if instead North had doubled West's weak 2@h for takeout, the penalty might set some kind of record for this event|pg|| pc|hK|nt|psridhar: at IMPs he doesnt mind losing a trump trick to W , so when E drops honor he can play 2nd top card...but this is MPs..|pg|| pc|s7|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d2|pc|dJ|pc|d3|pg|| nt|granguru: -5|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d6|nt|granguru: commenting |pg|| pc|dK|pc|dA|pg|| nt|stc: and now ?|pg|| nt|jbgood: 11 imps for Fantoni|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c3|nt|stc: I think he will take the hook and go down|pg|| pc|c6|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c5|pc|cK|nt|psyck: W trying to show as many values as he can with @sQ|pg|| pc|c7|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o15|st||md|1S432HAJ97DJT6CK53,S5HK84DAK943CA986,SKQJ8HQ63D2CQJT74,SAT976HT52DQ875C2|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|d|mb|1H|an| |mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ntmon: 2@S i don't understand|pg|| nt|vugraphpl3: is a director by the table|pg|| nt|vugraphpl3: i dont know why... sory|pg|| nt|ntmon: perhaps 1@H not alerted|pg|| nt|yo_yo: I dont understand 2@s either|pg|| nt|vugraphpl3: yes he would make another auction|pg|| nt|yo_yo: i suppose the director is still there|pg|| nt|vugraphpl3: 2spades is for 1 H without alert|pg|| nt|yo_yo: but North surely has no more bids|pg|| mb|p|pc|cQ|nt|vugraphpl3: but we continued|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|cA|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c4|pc|d5|pc|cK|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s5|pc|s8|pg|| nt|yo_yo: 5@D is there but difficult to bid|pg|| nt|ntmon: i also think whatever happened will have no consequence|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d6|pc|dA|pc|d2|pg|| nt|vugraphpl3: sorry it was too fast...|pg|| nt|vugraphpl3: now he is playing secend time spade from the table|pg|| nt|ntmon: 6@H on 12 was bid and made|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c15|st||md|1S432HAJ97DJT6CK53,S5HK84DAK943CA986,SKQJ8HQ63D2CQJT74,SAT976HT52DQ875C2|sv|n|nt|stc: I don't blame N at all|pg|| nt|garnetts: --rotten contract |pg|| nt|jcomyn: three mighty big hands in a row|pg|| nt|mamos: i thought declarer had seven tricks and then claimed nine|pg|| nt|dburn: miserable position for Neve - if partner doesn't have @cK she can't beat 4@h, and if he does they can't beat 4@s|pg|| nt|xenya: in the other room, N supported spades immediately -- a key move |pg|| mb|p|mb|1D|nt|garnetts: another making slam--this is also poor though|pg|| nt|mamos: still Shirley was right 1NT worked well|pg|| mb|p|nt|jcomyn: but just the 3nt this time|pg|| nt|dburn: the objective for the teams here is to finish in the top three of their group of six|pg|| mb|1S|nt|garnetts: needs 3-3 hearts in practice |pg|| mb|p|nt|psridhar: if his target was only 10 he might hv drawn trumps |pg|| mb|2C|nt|jcomyn: this could lead to trouible|pg|| nt|dburn: Penfold is currently leading, Duck N Dales are fourth|pg|| mb|p|mb|2D|nt|jcomyn: but if they are playing precision why 1h|pg|| nt|sybarra: not sure where I want to play this hand looking at all 4 |pg|| mb|p|nt|sybarra: at least low enough|pg|| nt|mamos: In England a double on the South hand would be regarded as a poor bid -- different countries have different styles and understandings|pg|| nt|dburn: this is Callaghan's patent method for responding to 1NT|pg|| mb|p|nt|odysseus69: Souths double after a strong club opening looks ill judged|pg|| nt|jcomyn: NT is ok but that X by s is not my cup of tea|pg|| nt|sybarra: countries, systems, partnerships, style etc |pg|| mb|p|nt|yuval10: looks like 12 tricks here|pg|| nt|psridhar: a good lesson on moysian fits -good trumps|pg|| nt|stc: better than 3NT+2|pg|| nt|yuval10: seem like a very good score in an MP field|pg|| nt|psridhar: short trump hand haviing ruffing potential|pg|| nt|stc: and who plays 6@c ?|pg|| nt|psyck: true, S did well to bid 4@s instead of 3N|pg|| pc|d2|nt|jcomyn: they're learnikng|pg|| pc|d5|nt|jcomyn: hooray - italians|pg|| pc|d6|nt|jcomyn: dont like 4-2 fits when i have a 5-4 fit, but then that suits doesnt exist any more|pg|| nt|odysseus69: looks a strange lead|pg|| pc|d9|pg|| nt|garnetts: likely playing two systems according to position or vulnerability |pg|| pc|cA|nt|jcomyn: odd though|pg|| pc|c4|nt|sybarra: a wish trick |pg|| pc|c2|pc|c3|pg|| pc|c6|nt|sybarra: 2345 |pg|| pc|c7|nt|dburn: 2@c forces 2@d, to be followed by various things|pg|| pc|d7|pc|c5|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s2|nt|sybarra: poor S, nothing sits right|pg|| nt|dburn: usually by our side rather than the opponents, of course|pg|| pc|s5|nt|Walddk3: Goodbye to the 12th trick|pg|| nt|psyck: oh well, thought ruffing @h would have been normal|pg|| nt|stc: don't understand his play|pg|| nt|Walddk3: He can no longer ruff a heart and get back to hand to draw|pg|| nt|stc: after droping the Q@c he sees 11 NT tricks, so he needs 12 in @s|pg|| nt|psyck: may be plannig to play for @s33 then|pg|| nt|Walddk3: Maybe he will play for spades 3-3 now|pg|| nt|Walddk3: diamond to ace, ruff a heart and overtake @SQ|pg|| nt|yuval10: he should, as he knows he's in a bad score already|pg|| nt|Walddk3: He really should with this format|pg|| nt|stc: making things much worse|pg|| nt|stc: 1 trick worse :)|pg|| nt|vugraphzgy: The current standing after 10 (out of 19) rounds: 1st: Dror Padon, 2nd: Sergiu Covaliu|pg|| nt|Walddk3: He erred at trick 3 by not ruffing a heart|pg|| pc|s8|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s3|pc|d3|nt|Walddk3: Playing for clubs 3-1 instead with singleton in West|pg|| nt|stc: hoping W plays H|pg|| nt|Walddk3: If they don't one, they don't have one|pg|| nt|Walddk3: says Garozzo|pg|| nt|odysseus69: this time covering was a better idea|pg|| pc|sJ|pg|| pc|c8|nt|Walddk3: don't lead one|pg|| nt|jcomyn: bedt italians in grand in open room on bd 1|pg|| nt|mamos: perhaps lucky South |pg|| pc|cT|pc|d8|nt|psridhar: if @c are 3-1 he can see 3N fares poorly so taking even 10 triks is ok -so shd hv catered to 2-2|pg|| nt|stc: 10 or 11 ?|pg|| nt|stc: 620 not far from zero|pg|| pc|cK|pg|| nt|psyck: will likely go for 10 on suggested line|pg|| nt|sybarra: might be right |pg|| pc|sT|pc|s4|pc|d4|pc|sQ|pg|| nt|psridhar: 620 mtches 5@c|pg|| pc|c9|nt|psyck: nope, takes his 11|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|dQ|nt|stc: saved some bits|pg|| pc|h7|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h9|pc|hK|pc|h3|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o16|st||md|2SJ9H932DAKQT943C6,SAK5HAK876D2CQ872,SQT743HTD86CAKT93,S862HQJ54DJ75CJ54|sv|e|nt|yo_yo: The slam was bid in the closed room |pg|| mb|1H|mb|2H|an|5+ spades 5+ minor|mb|3H|nt|yo_yo: spades and a minor, I bet Balint can guess which minor |pg|| mb|4D|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cA|pc|c4|nt|yo_yo: he needs to play quickly|pg|| nt|yo_yo: q|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c7|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c5|pc|s9|pc|c2|pg|| nt|yo_yo: it might have worked|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cJ|nt|ntmon: quick 1 down|pg|| pc|h2|pc|c8|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s2|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c16|st||md|2SJ9H932DAKQT943C6,SAK5HAK876D2CQ872,SQT743HTD86CAKT93,S862HQJ54DJ75CJ54|sv|e|nt|jcomyn: perhaps the worst bidding of the morning|pg|| mb|1H|nt|mamos: EW got in a mess on that last board in th OR 3@S -3|pg|| nt|dburn: East-West have the generally accepted values for game, but the play is uphill work|pg|| mb|1S|nt|odysseus69: board 13 scored as 3NT making here - did look like 1 down|pg|| nt|granguru: EW will probably play a number of @H here|pg|| mb|2H|mb|3D|nt|garnetts: looks like a transfer overcall |pg|| nt|jcomyn: assume that transfer|pg|| nt|mamos: now that is a little surprising that North has not protected|pg|| mb|4H|nt|sybarra: tought hand to protect with, you bid 3 @C?|pg|| nt|mamos: NS certainly have a Club partial|pg|| nt|sybarra: I wont X there without 4 @S |pg|| nt|mamos: don't you mix @C2 with the Spades?|pg|| nt|sybarra: hmmmm |pg|| nt|mamos: :)|pg|| nt|granguru: 4@H should be -2|pg|| nt|vugraphpl1: )|pg|| mb|p|nt|dburn: mind you, this bidding might get North-South a little high|pg|| nt|granguru: declarer must guess @H for losing just one trick in the suit|pg|| mb|p|nt|psridhar: Birman worth 3@C now|pg|| nt|yuval10: kind of surprised there was no X from South over 1@s|pg|| nt|dburn: not impossible that South will bid 5@d at this point|pg|| mb|5D|nt|psyck: will certainly go on at this vul|pg|| nt|odysseus69: bad decisions all round|pg|| nt|dburn: still, South knows not to trust North's overcalls very far|pg|| nt|dburn: but it may be hard for her not to bid 4@s as a save if the opponents bid 4@h confidently|pg|| mb|d|nt|psyck: unless i curse him|pg|| nt|stc: needs Axx to X 1@s|pg|| nt|yuval10: AXX @h ?|pg|| nt|psridhar: passing 2@s with that 2 suitor -he will know it will go all pass as pd is marked with 4card @s|pg|| nt|stc: support X for @H|pg|| nt|granguru: 3@D lokks like a FIT NO-JUMP support|pg|| nt|granguru: looks*|pg|| nt|peachy: If you'd like to watch both tables (or multiple ones) click http://www.bridgebase.com/client/vugraph.php|pg|| mb|p|nt|yuval10: there is no support X here|pg|| nt|yuval10: if he wants to support he does that with 2 @h or a cuebid|pg|| nt|psyck: x just shows honor i suppose|pg|| nt|jcomyn: why not 3d by s|pg|| nt|dburn: 3@d is just a cue bid - East bid diamonds|pg|| mb|p|nt|yuval10: since partner showed 5 cards|pg|| mb|p|nt|odysseus69: Nunes probably judged that oppo would "save"|pg|| pc|hA|pc|hT|nt|stc: in this üposition and vuln you may have only 4|pg|| nt|psridhar: NS can make 10 tricks in @c|pg|| nt|psyck: S had enuf with 2 Aces to x|pg|| nt|granguru: in fact|pg|| nt|dburn: 3@h would also be a cue bid, but South has better diamonds than hearts|pg|| pc|h4|nt|granguru: -2 |pg|| pc|h2|pg|| nt|mamos: I agree it is slightly awkward but I don't think you vcan affored to pass game might be cold|pg|| nt|jbgood: good dummy with only 1 heart - and good for Fantoni that both his spade honors stand up:)|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s3|nt|jcomyn: ami seeing things|pg|| nt|Walddk1: Are you nice to your ex-partner, David?|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s9|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s4|nt|granguru: he is always nice to everybody|pg|| nt|Walddk1: For specs. David Burn and Brian Callaghan were regular partners for a number of years|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sJ|pg|| nt|stc: anyway NS very passive and expecting a bad score here|pg|| nt|sybarra: not sure cold if pard didnt step in |pg|| pc|c8|pc|cA|nt|dburn: well, I don't have to watch him make overcalls like that any more|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c6|pg|| nt|peachy: we can see that any line works now, declarer must work it out for herself|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|psyck: not usual to see both N & S lie low at this vul|pg|| pc|s8|nt|garnetts: likely a WJO and south gave it up I suppose |pg|| nt|granguru: :)|pg|| pc|h3|pc|s5|pg|| nt|mamos: what will partner do over 2@h with a balanced 13 count with a couple of Heart stops ?|pg|| nt|mamos: as it is North will collect 3 imps because 2@h only went one off played by West after a Multi sequenc|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d5|pc|dA|pc|d2|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h7|nt|yuval10: i think you should bid what you have in your cards|pg|| nt|psridhar: -140 instead of +130..|pg|| nt|yuval10: and not assume that partner "tricks" you|pg|| nt|yuval10: if you think your partner "tricks" you all the time...well, you're lucky , because it's an individual event and he'll be gone by next round :)|pg|| nt|psridhar: over 2@s Birman knew his pd held 4-2 in Majors, how costly can 3@c be?|pg|| nt|yuval10: 3 great scored for EW here anyway|pg|| nt|yuval10: W will surely overtake N|pg|| nt|yuval10: in the overall standings|pg|| nt|vugraphzgy: updated standings:|pg|| nt|vugraphzgy: http://www.israel-grand-prize.com/result/total.php|pg|| nt|yuval10: we'll probably have a change now since 2nd placed N didn't have the best of rounds here|pg|| pc|d8|pc|h5|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c4|nt|garnetts: 10 I think|pg|| pc|dT|pc|c2|pg|| pc|dK|pc|h6|pc|s7|pc|d7|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o17|st||md|3S654HAJ98DJ6CAKQ5,ST832H62DQ92CJT32,S97HKT73DA8754C86,SAKQJHQ54DKT3C974|sv|o|nt|ntmon: CR 4 boards behind|pg|| mb|p|mb|1N|nt|ntmon: this table is an operator's test|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c6|pc|c7|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|h4|pg|| nt|ntmon: great shift|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|h6|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|s2|pc|h7|pc|h5|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c3|pc|c8|pc|c4|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cT|pc|d4|pc|c9|pg|| pc|h9|pc|s3|pc|hT|pc|d3|pg|| nt|ntmon: S did all right things - 2 down|pg|| pc|dA|pc|dT|pc|d6|pc|d2|pg|| nt|yo_yo: not quite enough to double though|pg|| mc|5|pg|| qx|c17|st||md|3S654HAJ98DJ6CAKQ5,ST832H62DQ92CJT32,S97HKT73DA8754C86,SAKQJHQ54DKT3C974|sv|o|nt|yuval10: what would you bid with W over 1NT ?|pg|| nt|jcomyn: this shouild be fun|pg|| nt|garnetts: My cash is on 4@H |pg|| nt|jcomyn: daresay|pg|| nt|granguru: well he was directing the lead just in case |pg|| nt|granguru: it cost 9|pg|| mb|p|nt|psyck: x if Woolsey|pg|| nt|stc: NS are 4th and 5th|pg|| nt|odysseus69: hate that opener|pg|| mb|1N|nt|vugraphzgy: a link to the standard CC:|pg|| nt|stc: Nat or may be @d/@h|pg|| nt|psyck: Landy & Natural as per ccc though|pg|| nt|vugraphzgy: http://www.israel-grand-prize.com/cc/cc_standard.pdf|pg|| nt|jcomyn: me too|pg|| nt|granguru: So now South opens to assure N does not overcall|pg|| nt|dburn: Brian generally passes these|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|stc: ok, ty|pg|| nt|stc: S can't pass here|pg|| nt|psyck: about a loser in each suit in 2@s|pg|| nt|psyck: 2@s non forcing maybe|pg|| nt|psyck: but S has good hand for @s|pg|| nt|stc: even if not forcing, he has too much|pg|| nt|odysseus69: silence from West and double later|pg|| nt|dburn: mind you, he did that once on a similar hand and it made five overtricks|pg|| nt|dburn: because partner had 23-24 balanced|pg|| nt|granguru: and passed?|pg|| mb|p|nt|mamos: hard to get excited with four balanced hands and a part-score board :)|pg|| nt|sybarra: likely 7 tricks|pg|| nt|mamos: teime for tea|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|mamos: time for tea|pg|| nt|mamos: i bet eight |pg|| nt|dburn: no, no - partner opened 2@d Multi, and Brian passed|pg|| nt|granguru: aah|pg|| pc|c2|nt|psridhar: simple rule for me-if i wd hv originally super-accepted a trf , then I raise to 3@S here|pg|| nt|yuval10: let's see how declarer handles the trump suit|pg|| nt|jcomyn: 4h|pg|| pc|c6|nt|mamos: :)|pg|| nt|dburn: still, he has another chance to pass|pg|| nt|granguru: playing with probabilities|pg|| pc|c4|pg|| nt|jbgood: even the strong NT has preemptive qualities:)|pg|| pc|h8|nt|dburn: but he thinks he might make a game|pg|| pc|h2|nt|odysseus69: West naively failed to double - looks like Balint may not be a star|pg|| nt|granguru: E thinks not|pg|| nt|dburn: either that or his opponents might make a slam, which is the acutal position|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|sA|nt|dburn: that may not look like fourth highest to North|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s2|pc|s7|pg|| nt|jcomyn: thats the 2nd time he waited fo a x and didnt get it|pg|| nt|dburn: the auction developed along similar lines at the other table|pg|| nt|dburn: but East decided that perhaps 4@h would not make after all|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|s9|pg|| nt|jcomyn: and also the first time she misplayed 2h|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s5|nt|jcomyn: i think that is a poor opening lead|pg|| nt|dburn: it didn't|pg|| pc|s8|pc|d4|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|c5|pc|sT|pc|d5|pg|| nt|dburn: so declarer pinched a trick, and North-South will now be confused about the heart position|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cK|pc|c3|pc|c8|pg|| pc|cA|nt|odysseus69: message to vugraph operator- are we sure that they made 9 tricks on board 13 wher a diamond was led and defence had 5 tricks to cash?|pg|| pc|cT|pc|d7|pc|c9|pg|| nt|garnetts: the defence is trivial though |pg|| pc|dJ|nt|psyck: Interesting, Suitplay.exe sujjests small to 7 & not T or A|pg|| nt|dburn: Callaghan hoping to unleash the secret weapon|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg|| nt|dburn: with the result that...|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h4|pc|h9|pc|h6|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|mamos: its aguess|pg|| nt|sybarra: might as well play the Q|pg|| nt|sybarra: maybe easier from here to say |pg|| nt|mamos: 50% 50%|pg|| pc|d2|nt|dburn: but unfortunately East knew to shift to clubs|pg|| nt|xenya: but why would S witch to a heart if she didn't have 4? |pg|| pc|hT|pc|h5|pg|| pc|hA|nt|vugraphpl1: sorry|pg|| nt|vugraphpl1: just made|pg|| nt|dburn: no, they avoided the ultimate indignity of letting the thing make|pg|| pc|d9|pc|hK|pc|dT|pg|| pc|d6|pc|cJ|pc|d8|pc|dK|pg|| nt|mamos: lol seven it was|pg|| nt|mamos: exciting after all|pg|| nt|jbgood: 170 in hearts (or 420 if you are in the mood) |pg|| pg|| qx|o18|st||md|4S432H8753D2CK8542,ST85HJDKQJ954CQJT,SAJ96HKQ4DAT63C97,SKQ7HAT962D87CA63|sv|n|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ntmon: looking at EW card only, you should be in 3N|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|s5|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d2|pc|dK|pc|d3|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c7|pc|c3|pc|cK|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s8|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|d8|pc|c5|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|s3|pc|sT|pg|| pc|s9|pc|h2|pc|c2|pc|d4|pg|| pc|c9|nt|ntmon: almost :)|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|cT|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c8|pc|cJ|pc|h4|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|c18|st||md|4S432H8753D2CK8542,ST85HJDKQJ954CQJT,SAJ96HKQ4DAT63C97,SKQ7HAT962D87CA63|sv|n|nt|psridhar: how is your game going?|pg|| nt|psridhar: sry|pg|| nt|psyck: that loses only to the actual layout|pg|| nt|psridhar: private|pg|| nt|Walddk5: http://www.eurobridge.org/competitions/11Poznan/Bulletins/bul01.pdf for today's bulletin. I recommend pages 4 through 7 :)|pg|| nt|dburn: still, 7 IMPs to Duck N Dales anyway|pg|| mb|1H|mb|p|nt|jcomyn: who wins here |pg|| nt|garnetts: EW will be pushed to the five level here |pg|| nt|sybarra: not easy hands |pg|| nt|jbgood: Fantoni back in 3rd and last qualifying pos now|pg|| mb|1N|nt|garnetts: But the method needs testing |pg|| nt|Walddk5: running scores at http://r.poznan2011.pl/mxt/rrleaderb.html|pg|| nt|odysseus69: 5D looks comfortable spot-just need to get there|pg|| nt|mamos: NS have values but no real fit|pg|| nt|sybarra: not as brutal as last set but still not easy |pg|| nt|mamos: I think you have to pass you have a misfit|pg|| nt|sybarra: and what do you have to say?|pg|| nt|sybarra: that @D suit is puny|pg|| nt|sybarra: and lefty opened it|pg|| nt|dburn: and potential trouble ahead for East-West|pg|| nt|dburn: if after 2@s-pass-4@s East decides to do some more bidding|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|odysseus69: and not bid 6|pg|| nt|sybarra: your 4 card spade suit has nothing to write home abourt |pg|| mb|p|nt|jcomyn: no way|pg|| nt|odysseus69: tempo forces 5D and end|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d7|pc|d2|nt|sybarra: oh well S think's it is important |pg|| nt|jbgood: updates here: http://b.poznan2011.pl/mxt/rrrunda5.html|pg|| pc|d4|pg|| nt|mamos: now you are steaming towards a disaster|pg|| nt|mamos: ugh|pg|| nt|dburn: good decision, though 5@d might have escaped relatively unscathed|pg|| pc|d8|nt|sybarra: was there something wrong with passing 2 @C?|pg|| pc|s2|nt|yuval10: South took a decision to go for a game even though he didn't have the @d support|pg|| nt|psridhar: but he has compensating values alright outside|pg|| nt|psyck: yes, nice should to good extras outside|pg|| nt|jcomyn: better lead a c though against h|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dA|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hA|nt|jcomyn: strange|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hJ|pg|| nt|jcomyn: interesting question if e bids 3nt what will s lead|pg|| pc|c3|nt|yuval10: looks like only 3 @d losers and an easy made. |pg|| nt|sybarra: frankly halfway surprised they are not in 3 nt|pg|| pc|c2|nt|garnetts: Far be it for me to criticise but that double is dreadful --obviously an action double--but they could play 3@S doubled with 6@D a spread |pg|| pc|cQ|nt|mamos: well I think passing 3@h shows you should have passed 2@c - it's a real double-cross to bid on and then stop|pg|| pc|c7|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d6|pc|h2|nt|dburn: East can be squeezed in hearts and clubs for an overtrick|pg|| pc|c5|pg|| pc|dJ|nt|psridhar: defense did well cashing their 3 @d tricks-there was some danger of one @d gettiing pitched from dummy|pg|| nt|stc: a @c lead could have been more efective|pg|| pc|dT|nt|garnetts: As it is a slam needs a 3-2 heart break only |pg|| nt|jcomyn: wouldnt call the bidding so far very impressive|pg|| pc|c6|pc|h3|pg|| pc|d9|pc|s6|pc|h6|pc|h7|pg|| nt|odysseus69: since no Fantoni-Nunes it does look as if Balint is the sponsor |pg|| nt|dburn: no wonder the Lavazza team is doing well - not only does it have a coach, it also has seven players|pg|| nt|jbgood: as far as I am told 27 teams from the A-Swiss go on to the KO rounds, and 5 from B|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s9|nt|jcomyn: maybe they are not early morning people|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s3|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h8|pc|s8|nt|mamos: I was going to say no harm done but now one off|pg|| nt|sybarra: not sure we are making 3 @H here |pg|| pc|hQ|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|cT|pg|| pc|hT|pc|c8|pc|d5|nt|mamos: i think the bidding got the result it deserved frankly|pg|| pc|h4|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o19|st||md|1SAJ5H965D87CJ9732,SQ2HA842DAKQCAK84,SK943HKQT7DJT532C,ST876HJ3D964CQT65|sv|e|nt|yo_yo: the other table might have time penalties , much slower|pg|| nt|ntmon: undisciplined 6@S X duplicated in CR|pg|| nt|ntmon: on Bd 13|pg|| mb|p|mb|2D|an|20-23 i head that ;)|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d3|nt|vugraphpl3: i heard*|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d7|pc|dA|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|ntmon: 3NT is a bit of stretch, and @C don't behave|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s6|pc|sA|pg|| pc|d8|pc|dQ|pc|d2|pc|d6|pg|| nt|yo_yo: i dont blame Reess, it's tempting to look for a @S fit|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|s7|pc|sJ|pg|| nt|ntmon: wide NT ranges are the problem|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c8|pc|h7|nt|yo_yo: now that's an odd lead|pg|| pc|c5|pg|| nt|ntmon: fell from grace|pg|| pc|cK|nt|yo_yo: surely win in dummy and try to pin 9@S|pg|| pc|d5|pc|c6|pc|c2|pg|| nt|yo_yo: (which doesnt work)|pg|| pc|cA|pc|s9|pc|cT|pc|c3|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hK|pc|h3|pc|h5|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d9|pc|c9|pc|dK|pg|| pc|c4|pc|dT|pc|cQ|pc|cJ|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c19|st||md|1SAJ5H965D87CJ9732,SQ2HA842DAKQCAK84,SK943HKQT7DJT532C,ST876HJ3D964CQT65|sv|e|nt|stc: not a top but a good result for NS|pg|| mb|p|nt|jcomyn: more action|pg|| nt|dburn: another boring flat ten count, thinks South|pg|| mb|2C|nt|stc: only @d ruff beats 6@h|pg|| nt|dburn: little knowing that...|pg|| mb|p|nt|granguru: 4@H but not 4@s|pg|| nt|dburn: true - how will 5@d get on?|pg|| mb|2D|nt|garnetts: I ssume 1@H is a transfer too |pg|| nt|granguru: Paradoxically 6@S can be made with @DA lead|pg|| nt|granguru: an interesting hand indeed|pg|| mb|p|mb|2N|nt|psyck: 6@c only -3 :)|pg|| nt|mamos: as usual a stretched NT|pg|| nt|granguru: that will define the match winner|pg|| nt|dburn: this looks to be par, in fact|pg|| nt|granguru: 6@D makes with a non @S lead|pg|| nt|dburn: since 6@d is down one doubled, and 5@h would have made|pg|| mb|p|nt|sybarra: I wonder what their range is |pg|| mb|3C|nt|jcomyn: bit of a skite this|pg|| nt|odysseus69: just been informed that I am commentating on mixed teams- was drafted in with no info|pg|| nt|Walddk5: Running scores at http://b.poznan2011.pl/mxt/rrrunda2.html|pg|| nt|mamos: 15-17 I'd imagine Standard French|pg|| nt|mamos: nine tricks|pg|| mb|p|nt|psridhar: the KCB response of 6@C by E shows odd no of keys and a useful void-needed for slam here|pg|| nt|psridhar: else Lazar thinks 2 keys are missing|pg|| nt|psyck: yes, many play 5N as even with void & 6x as odd with void|pg|| nt|granguru: the importance of showing valuable voids in RKCB is ofoveerwhelming importance|pg|| nt|psridhar: now E has to 'punt' 6@H|pg|| nt|stc: I don't see any reason not to lead @d against 6@h|pg|| nt|psridhar: kind of bid that will invite more criticism when it fails than accolade when it wins( oh u got lucky! )|pg|| mb|3D|nt|granguru: if W would have shown a 2 suited with 2N then W probably would have played 6@D instead of 6@H by E|pg|| nt|psyck: I E was going to bid on 5@h, he may have tried 6@d |pg|| nt|psyck: *If E|pg|| nt|psridhar: the two suits lack parity acutely ..so perhaps E decided to hide it|pg|| nt|granguru: MP bidding strategy makes these little bidding distortions|pg|| mb|p|nt|garnetts: Good guess by South --might have had no play and might well go off still if east ducks the heart |pg|| nt|granguru: guessing @D of course|pg|| nt|dburn: so a lot of IMPs rest on Brian's lead to this trick|pg|| nt|dburn: and that one won't work|pg|| nt|granguru: ADRENALINE FLOWING NOW|pg|| mb|3H|mb|p|mb|3N|nt|odysseus69: killing lead - triumph for 2H opener|pg|| nt|dburn: Ivanov will know that North has a void in diamonds, surely|pg|| nt|granguru: BEST LINE?|pg|| nt|granguru: bidding is clear in that sense|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|stc: wow !|pg|| nt|granguru: defense must manage not to clash @s tricks|pg|| nt|dburn: he won't have a losing diamond and two losing clubs for 5@d, and with 1-1 in the minors he would bid Blackwood, not 5@d|pg|| nt|xenya: undo pls|pg|| nt|peachy: The auction seems to indicate 3C was Puppet Stayman, guess|pg|| mb|p|nt|psridhar: Lazar might hv tried a forcing pass here ...in the context of his 5@H it only says he doesnt have @c values ( but hand still belongs to EW)|pg|| nt|garnetts: technicall as a kib has said only a club kills it --but this lead makes it hard |pg|| pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|d8|pc|dQ|pg|| nt|xenya: 3N is pretty hopeless and may well go down 2|pg|| nt|dburn: hard to see an eighth trick here, never mind a ninth|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|s6|pc|sJ|pg|| nt|jbgood: 1 down in CR seems good|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dA|pc|d2|nt|Walddk5: Yes Victor, Mixed Teams on the banner (top) is confusing :)|pg|| pc|d6|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sK|nt|garnetts: not good defence |pg|| pc|s7|pc|s5|pg|| pc|hK|nt|dburn: so he'll make an overtrick now|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h5|nt|granguru: best bidding not always produces best results...Callaghan thinking|pg|| nt|granguru: nor best leads do|pg|| nt|dburn: well, the bidding was OK - the lead was perhaps not the best|pg|| nt|granguru: >)|pg|| nt|granguru: W claimed|pg|| nt|granguru: everybody discussing|pg|| nt|dburn: he is entitled to do so - he has the rest|pg|| nt|granguru: hahaha|pg|| nt|granguru: where is board nr.10?|pg|| nt|granguru: are the players willing to continue?|pg|| pc|h2|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hJ|nt|psridhar: surely Lazar wont pass 6@C with Ace of @c ? that helps E|pg|| nt|sybarra: hmmm|pg|| nt|sybarra: we might only make 2 |pg|| pc|h6|pc|hA|pg|| pc|cA|pc|s3|nt|stc: 5 only -300, so -500 not soooo good|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c3|pg|| nt|dburn: well, that may create an eighth|pg|| nt|dburn: since declarer can exit with a low heart now, and South can't avoid an endplay|pg|| pc|h4|nt|stc: 5@s I ,mean|pg|| pc|h7|nt|sybarra: oops|pg|| pc|d9|pc|h9|pg|| pc|sA|pc|h8|nt|psridhar: lot better than -1370|pg|| pc|s9|nt|psridhar: difficult hand for both NS and EW , and difficult for commentators too to predict scores here:)|pg|| nt|psyck: Birman may have recovered some in this round of what he lost in prior round|pg|| nt|stc: I think that -500 is about average|pg|| nt|psyck: the scores are at: http://www.israel-grand-prize.com/result/total.php|pg|| nt|psyck: but they are a few rounds behind...|pg|| nt|psridhar: From 4@s X -1 to 6@H -1 =a whole range of scores possible |pg|| pc|s8|pg|| pc|cJ|mc|8|nt|mamos: unless .......... a little help from our friends|pg|| pg|| qx|o20|st||md|2S73HQJ863D2CJT643,SHAT95DAKT9543CK9,SAKJ6HK7DQJ6CAQ52,SQT98542H42D87C87|sv|b|nt|yo_yo: last board of the set|pg|| nt|ntmon: a gift from S was not enough|pg|| mb|1D|mb|d|mb|3S|mb|p|nt|ntmon: matter of the style|pg|| mb|p|nt|yo_yo: another double, would be take out i assume|pg|| mb|p|nt|ntmon: N is stuck|pg|| nt|ntmon: pass is best thing to do|pg|| pc|d2|nt|yo_yo: stuck but happy|pg|| nt|ntmon: when seeing dummy, of course :)|pg|| nt|yo_yo: another double might have produced 4@H by south|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d7|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|h2|pc|h3|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|h8|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d8|pc|s3|pc|d3|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c7|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c8|nt|ntmon: 7 tricks for defense|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c9|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|s8|pc|h6|pc|dK|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s7|nt|ntmon: at least|pg|| pc|d4|pc|s6|pg|| pc|cT|mc|5|nt|ntmon: thanks to all for watching, we all change to CR|pg|| nt|yo_yo: thanks everyone, now over to the closed room to compare|pg|| nt|ntmon: thx to our capable operator :)|pg|| nt|ntmon: see u at tomorrow's programme, Mixed Teams continue with 5 rounds of Swiss |pg|| nt|ntmon: bye|pg|| nt|vugraphpl3: thanks everyone :)|pg|| pg|| qx|c20|st||md|2S73HQJ863D2CJT643,SHAT95DAKT9543CK9,SAKJ6HK7DQJ6CAQ52,SQT98542H42D87C87|sv|b|nt|stc: NS may loose only 300 in 5@s or +100 in 6@h|pg|| nt|jcomyn: no fun here|pg|| nt|sybarra: last hand of this set |pg|| nt|sybarra: unless we are going back to 21|pg|| mb|1D|nt|odysseus69: too faint for my tired old eyes|pg|| nt|mamos: i think they played and we just missed it (and the score?)|pg|| mb|d|nt|Walddk5: And women are always East and South for some reason only known to the EBL|pg|| nt|granguru: ´PENFOLD got 17 IMPS|pg|| mb|1S|nt|jbgood: 3 @s was not a successful bid as it turned out:)|pg|| nt|dburn: well, it was more successful than it would have been if someone had doubled it|pg|| mb|2H|nt|stc: a safe part score in @h|pg|| nt|psridhar: E hand worth a game try |pg|| nt|dburn: but that is small consolation|pg|| mb|3D|nt|sybarra: we thank our wonderful operator (name I do not know) |pg|| nt|mamos: A disciplined Pass by South withh 4-6 in the majors|pg|| nt|dburn: strong club, weak 2@h, game-forcing 3@d, competitive double|pg|| mb|3N|nt|psridhar: may end in 3@H|pg|| nt|dburn: meanwhile, North is hoping for something like @hAQJxx with South|pg|| mb|p|nt|odysseus69: 5D is all Nunes can do|pg|| nt|mamos: yep thanks op|pg|| nt|dburn: or something else, and some luck|pg|| nt|dburn: but if South removes to clubs, North might take a shot at five|pg|| nt|xenya: which might make|pg|| nt|dburn: indeed it might, and it might make doubled also|pg|| nt|jbgood: played by S club game is fine|pg|| nt|jbgood: a matchwinner/loser for S now|pg|| mb|p|nt|sybarra: and thx Mike always a pleasure|pg|| nt|dburn: and it may not be obvious to East-West that they have a spade stop for 3NT|pg|| mb|p|nt|dburn: South hasn't had much luck with her decisions so far|pg|| pc|sT|nt|sybarra: LOTS of vugraph coming up |pg|| nt|dburn: but there isn't much else East can bid|pg|| nt|dburn: and that continues a trend - I confess, I'd have done the same|pg|| pc|s3|nt|stc: making 4|pg|| pc|d3|nt|dburn: mind you, this lead...|pg|| pc|sJ|pg|| nt|mamos: :) ty hope I havent been too grumpy we are in the middle of a typical June in England - persisting down |pg|| nt|sybarra: it is now almost 24x7 |pg|| nt|dburn: ...was not what West was hoping for, at any rate|pg|| nt|jbgood: kibs claim that 4 @h is a make - I just wonder David, 2 times @d, and another in on the trump ace - can 4 @h make?|pg|| pc|hK|nt|sybarra: defense can cash 4 @S |pg|| nt|mamos: It's a good jonb they dont pay us or it would be illegal to work so long hours :)|pg|| nt|sybarra: I did my last event last night (my time) at 11 zonal quals in indonesia or india |pg|| nt|sybarra: somewhere over there |pg|| pc|h2|pc|h3|nt|garnetts: nasty card that 10@C |pg|| nt|jcomyn: cash 2c and s switch|pg|| nt|mamos: lol|pg|| nt|sybarra: no offense to anyone I just cant remember|pg|| nt|mamos: isnt the q107 a trick Shirley?|pg|| nt|dburn: odd sort of lead - maybe South thought 3@d was artificial and North was doubling it for penalty|pg|| pc|h5|pg|| nt|mamos: thats not a killer lead|pg|| nt|sybarra: yep think there is a spade stop |pg|| pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|c3|pc|c9|pg|| nt|dburn: or maybe she thinks she can beat 3NT by giving partner a ruff or two|pg|| nt|dburn: it might make, I guess|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c7|pc|c4|nt|sybarra: the disciplined pass (with 4 card other major) got them into trouble|pg|| pc|cK|pg|| nt|dburn: still, this will change the result of the match, but I don't think it will change the qualifiers|pg|| nt|peachy: The 4th place team is finished and has fewer than Fantoni, so David is right|pg|| nt|peachy: Link http://b.poznan2011.pl/mxt/rrrunda5.html|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d6|pc|d7|pc|d2|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dJ|pc|d8|nt|jcomyn: thats it|pg|| pc|h6|pg|| nt|stc: a good score for NS, some EW will bid the game|pg|| nt|odysseus69: thats al folks- mystery of board 13 remains|pg|| nt|odysseus69: thx all|pg|| pc|c5|pc|s5|nt|sybarra: or kept them out of trouble depends on view|pg|| pc|cJ|nt|sybarra: ty all, back in probably 1/2 |pg|| nt|sybarra: 1/2 hour |pg|| nt|mamos: thanks for the company everyone -- |pg|| pc|h9|pg|| nt|peachy: 3 from each group qualify for the Swiss A, the bottom three go to Swiss B|pg|| pc|cT|nt|psyck: i'd expect the results to be mostly flattish here|pg|| pc|d4|pc|c2|pc|s2|pg|| pc|c6|pc|d5|pc|h7|nt|jbgood: 3 @d from Fantoni was no fit bid for spades :) |pg|| pc|s4|pg|| pc|s7|pc|hT|pc|sK|pc|s8|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s9|pc|h8|pc|d9|pg|| nt|xenya: thanks everyone|pg|| mc|9|nt|jbgood: bye all|pg|| pg||