vg|14th Red Bull WBS-Rosenblum-BBO2,R32 3_3,I,1,14,FLEISHER,63,JILINDINGYUAN,58| rs|4NE+1,4NE+1,4SS=,4SS=,3CWx-4,3NSx-1,3NE=,3NE+3,3NS-1,2SN=,1NS+1,1NS-1,1NE-1,3NW-1,5HWx-2,4SSx-2,6HE-3,4HE-4,1NW-1,2NN-1,2NW+1,2SNx=,3NW+1,4SE+1,3NN+2,3NS+3,2SW+1,2SW+1| pn|WILLENKEN,R CHAN,ROSENBERG,S HUANG,C DONG,MOSS,W HE,DELMONTE|pg|| qx|o1|st||md|3ST987HJ65DJ64C542,SA54HAT832DK85C98,S62HKQ4D9732CQJ63,SKQJ3H97DAQTCAKT7|sv|o|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d4|pc|dK|pc|d3|pc|dT|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|h7|pc|h5|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d5|pg|| nt|TopWizard: A very close match here!|pg|| nt|TopWizard: We are probably on Board 3 at the table|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c1|st||md|3ST987HJ65DJ64C542,SA54HAT832DK85C98,S62HKQ4D9732CQJ63,SKQJ3H97DAQTCAKT7|sv|o|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sT|mc|11|pg|| qx|o2|st||md|4SA73HQDK7654CAJ53,SQ2HKT764DAJ2CQT6,SKJT965HJ98DQ83C4,S84HA532DT9CK9872|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|1H|mb|2H!|mb|3H|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h4|pc|h8|pc|hA|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d5|pc|d2|pc|dQ|pg|| nt|TopWizard: So N's 2@h was a transfer to @s's|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c9|pc|cA|pc|c6|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cT|pc|s5|pc|c7|pg|| nt|TopWizard: Operator, can we have player names please :)|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c2|st||md|4SA73HQDK7654CAJ53,SQ2HKT764DAJ2CQT6,SKJT965HJ98DQ83C4,S84HA532DT9CK9872|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sQ|mc|10|pg|| qx|o3|st||md|1S83H3DKJ984CKJT93,SKT7HAQ62D65CQ874,SQJ942HKJ854DAQ2C,SA65HT97DT73CA652|sv|e|mb|p|nt|pelu: We have to wait for the Players names - the young operators dont know latin letters and Traian will come and type the names|pg|| mb|1C!|mb|2D!|mb|p|nt|pelu: against all trhis 1@C openings many now use 2@d as Michaels Cup bid = 5-5 in major|pg|| nt|TopWizard: 2@d is Michaels|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|TopWizard: Many now play that overcalls of 1m to 2m are natural, because of the short m opening bids|pg|| nt|ahollan1: this pair only uses 2@D when 1@C=2+ vs 3+ they use 2@C to show majors|pg|| nt|TopWizard: Thanks for the names!|pg|| mb|3C|nt|TopWizard: Hi Al!!|pg|| nt|kit: N-S trying 3NT doubled in other room, looks like will be down 1.|pg|| mb|d|nt|pelu: if 1@C = 3+ then 2@c is michael for me, if only 2+ then 2@c = @c-suit|pg|| mb|p|nt|TopWizard: Best agreement: when opponent's 1m can be 2, then 2m = natural|pg|| nt|ahollan1: right Peter - same for our NS|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|kit: So this board looks like it will be a big pickup for Fleisher|pg|| nt|pelu: wellcome Al Hollander - our expert in almost all the strange systems|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|TopWizard: Willenken celebrates Christmas|pg|| nt|pelu: one og my ex partners would take a long pause before D so he was sure that it could not take out :):9 - joking :)|pg|| nt|TopWizard: I see 5 sure tricks, probably 6 with a @d ruff in hand|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s7|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d8|pc|d5|pc|d2|pg|| nt|TopWizard: Thanks to bebechira for entering all player names! :)|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|h5|pc|cA|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h3|pc|h6|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s5|pc|s8|pc|sT|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dQ|pc|d7|pc|dK|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c7|pc|s2|pc|c2|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cQ|pc|h4|pc|c5|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s9|pc|s6|pc|c3|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c8|pc|hK|pc|c6|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|h2|pc|dA|pc|dT|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|h7|pc|d4|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h9|pc|d9|pc|hA|pg|| pg|| qx|c3|st||md|1S83H3DKJ984CKJT93,SKT7HAQ62D65CQ874,SQJ942HKJ854DAQ2C,SA65HT97DT73CA652|sv|e|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c4|pc|h4|pc|cA|pc|c3|pg|| nt|TopWizard: Operator, can we have player names please! :)|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|s2|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d2|pc|dT|pc|dJ|pg|| nt|mrdct: south should lead a @H up right now before def work out what's going on|pg|| pc|s3|nt|mrdct: west should probably take the guaranteed beat now|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|s5|pg|| nt|mrdct: east must have @SA for this play as south would surely be hooking @s if he had the A|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dA|pc|d7|pc|d4|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|s8|pc|s7|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cK|pc|c7|pc|s9|pg|| nt|mrdct: ish can't really go wrong now unless he tries to get clever in an attempt to endplay dummy for extra undertrick|pg|| pc|h3|nt|mrdct: now moss needs to not get greedy|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h5|nt|mrdct: he has full count on the hand now i think|pg|| pc|h7|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o4|st||md|2SK6542HKT954D3CA2,SAJ93HA6D842CKT64,S87HJ73DKT5CQ9875,SQTHQ82DAQJ976CJ3|sv|b|nt|ahollan1: if 1100 then Rosenberg discarded @DA|pg|| mb|1C|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h9|nt|ahollan1: all comments correct about 1400 i had incorrect vul so thought down 5 but down 4 vul = 1100 and confirms that Rosenberg did NOT unblock @DA|pg|| nt|kareno: that looked like the right play and Michael usually finds ir|pg|| nt|kareno: it|pg|| nt|ahollan1: then again retaining @DA guaranteed 1100 and just in case inferences about @D suit were wrong .....|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h7|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s6|pc|s3|pc|s8|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|dK|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|hA|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d5|pc|dA|pc|c2|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|s2|pc|d8|pc|dT|pg|| pc|d9|pc|s4|pc|c4|pc|c9|pg|| pc|d7|pc|h5|pc|c6|pc|c5|pg|| pc|d6|pc|hT|nt|kareno: carefully taking his 9|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c7|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|s7|pg|| mc|9|nt|TopWizard: Voice commentary bottom of your screen :)|pg|| pg|| qx|c4|st||md|2SK6542HKT954D3CA2,SAJ93HA6D842CKT64,S87HJ73DKT5CQ9875,SQTHQ82DAQJ976CJ3|sv|b|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|1S|mb|d|nt|mrdct: look slike a support dbl|pg|| mb|p|nt|mrdct: probably get to 3NT EW|pg|| mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hT|pc|h6|pc|h3|pc|hQ|pg|| nt|mrdct: 11 tricks i think - 12 with there being 2 @h tricks on the lead|pg|| nt|mrdct: in practice might be best to play @dQ now|pg|| nt|mrdct: given that he's only in 3NT|pg|| nt|mrdct: although could see him going down if @SK is offside when @d were rolling homwe|pg|| pc|sT|nt|mrdct: not as easy to play this hand single dummy|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sJ|pc|s7|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d5|pc|dQ|pc|d3|pg|| nt|mrdct: now he's 100% to make|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s8|pg|| nt|mrdct: although if south ducked with @DK ...|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dT|pc|dJ|pc|s4|pg|| nt|mrdct: now he can safely play for overtricks|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c2|nt|mrdct: ish knows south has overcalled vul with a really bad @S suit so surely south has @CA|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c5|pg|| pc|d8|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|h4|pg|| pc|d9|pc|h5|pc|c4|pc|c9|pg|| pc|d7|pc|h9|pc|c6|pc|c7|pg|| pc|d6|pc|hK|nt|mrdct: 12 tricks|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|o5|st||md|3SAKT75HA53DKT7CQ8,S4HKT982D53C96543,S862HQ74DJ42CAJ72,SQJ93HJ6DAQ986CKT|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1D|nt|ahollan1: with the match starting the set at tied -- should declarer give more thought to the overtricks that seemed highly probable??|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|nt|kareno: I would have. North would hardly have ducked the king of spades|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|h9|nt|kit: May be key whether West leads his suit or partner's suit|pg|| nt|ahollan1: after opening 1@S this 2N was forcing -- seems that also applies after an overcall and raise|pg|| nt|kit: On a diamond lead I don't think declarer would have had much of a chance, but now he does.|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h6|pc|hA|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|s3|pg|| pc|sA|nt|kit: But that decision was costly -- he needed to go up queen of hearts|pg|| nt|kareno: no more|pg|| pc|h2|pc|s6|pc|s9|pg|| pc|sT|pc|c5|pc|s8|pc|sJ|pg|| nt|kit: The defense would have to slip badly now to let this make|pg|| nt|TopWizard: How about the 2NT bid, anyone?|pg|| nt|kit: looks pretty reasonable to me|pg|| nt|pelu: for sure I would pass in S my partner is in the range 4-8 HCP|pg|| nt|kit: The still pay that vulnerable game bonus|pg|| nt|ahollan1: other table playing 2@S|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s5|pc|h8|pc|c2|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|h7|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d2|nt|kareno: nice cash of the spade avoiding an end play|pg|| nt|kit: what end-play? He can just set up his diamonds|pg|| pc|d8|pc|dT|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hT|pc|hQ|pc|d6|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dA|pc|d7|pc|d3|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|c3|pc|d4|pg|| nt|kit: Now he has to go up ace and back a diamond to avoid an end-play|pg|| pc|s7|pc|c4|pc|c7|pc|d9|pg|| pc|c8|nt|kit: which isn't very difficult|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cJ|pc|cK|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cQ|pc|c9|pc|cA|pg|| pg|| qx|c5|st||md|3SAKT75HA53DKT7CQ8,S4HKT982D53C96543,S862HQ74DJ42CAJ72,SQJ93HJ6DAQ986CKT|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|mrdct: precision EW?|pg|| mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|d|nt|mrdct: apparently not - ish treating his hand as a strong NT|pg|| nt|mrdct: prob a 14-16 range|pg|| mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|mrdct: NS are close to making 4@s|pg|| nt|mrdct: or 3NT even|pg|| mb|p|pc|dA|pc|d7|nt|mrdct: i'm asked why west is thinking here|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d4|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dT|pc|d3|pc|dJ|pg|| nt|mrdct: bear in mind that the tempo we see may not be accurate, but sometimes if declarer plays from dummy quickly before you have thought through your defence it's entirely appropriate to take your time - but only if you always do that|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|s4|pg|| pc|sK|pc|h2|pc|s6|pc|s9|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c6|pc|c2|pc|cK|pg|| nt|mrdct: often the player sitting over dummy will say something like "i'm just thinking about the whole hand" in such circumstances|pg|| nt|mrdct: in the meantime, declarer hasn't picked up the trump suit but is still looking OK for 8 tricks|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s5|pc|hT|pc|s8|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h3|pc|hK|pc|h4|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o6|st||md|4SA862HQJ3DAKJ8CA2,SKQ9HK92DQ96CKT97,ST74H7654D7CQJ843,SJ53HAT8DT5432C65|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|d|nt|kit: This could be the final contract|pg|| mb|p|mb|1H|nt|kit: If West hand't doubled|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c9|nt|ahollan1: Dong in 1N after a precision auction|pg|| nt|kit: This will actually turn out to be a good lead if declarer uses the entry for a diamond finesse|pg|| nt|kareno: south would be playing 1d|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c5|pc|c2|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c6|pc|cA|pc|c7|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sQ|pc|s4|pc|s5|pg|| nt|kit: Declarer will be squeezed when the king of clubs is cashed|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|h8|pc|h3|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h5|pc|hA|nt|kit: which I think it should have been|pg|| pc|hJ|pg|| nt|sibuea: Hi Gary|pg|| nt|sibuea: Hi all|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d7|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h2|pc|h6|pc|hT|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s9|pc|s7|pc|s3|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|sT|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|d2|nt|kit: And now West is end-played.|pg|| pc|d8|pg|| nt|ahollan1: seems a bit lazy for Chan not to unblock @S|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c6|st||md|4SA862HQJ3DAKJ8CA2,SKQ9HK92DQ96CKT97,ST74H7654D7CQJ843,SJ53HAT8DT5432C65|sv|e|nt|mrdct: worrying pause - i hope we are still connected to sanya|pg|| mb|p|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|mrdct: looks like a strong @C by south|pg|| pc|c9|nt|mrdct: and north not wanting anything to do with it|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c5|pc|c2|pg|| nt|mrdct: gains and entry to dummy - but nothing useful to do with it|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s5|pc|s2|nt|mrdct: looks like he going to try to develop a long @s whilst giving himself opportunity for a gift trick a red suit|pg|| nt|mrdct: if defence stays passive, might need to pick the @DQxx in either hand|pg|| pc|sQ|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c3|pc|c6|pc|cA|pg|| nt|mrdct: another low @s?|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s9|pc|sT|nt|mrdct: yep|pg|| pc|sJ|pg|| nt|mrdct: @s best now by ish|pg|| nt|mrdct: if east plays a @d declarer will know he hasn't got Q and if EW start on @h that will set up a @h trick for delcarer|pg|| nt|mrdct: so keep it passive i think|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|h4|pg|| nt|mrdct: now moss needs to find a @S exit|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|dT|pc|d8|pg|| nt|mrdct: declarer can still make anyway if he gets @D right|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|sA|pg|| pc|s8|pc|cT|pc|c8|pc|d5|pg|| nt|mrdct: west is going to get endplayed|pg|| nt|mrdct: quite a delicate hand for defence and declarer|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|hA|pg|| pc|d2|nt|mrdct: now the defence prevail|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d6|pc|d7|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h9|pc|h6|pc|hT|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|d9|pc|h7|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|cJ|pc|d4|pg|| pg|| qx|o7|st||md|1SQ643HQ8763D2CA87,SAJ872HK4DQ64CJ42,SKT5HAJT2D975CKT3,S9H95DAKJT83CQ965|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h6|pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h5|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h9|pc|hQ|pc|h4|pg|| pc|h7|nt|kit: North blocked the heart suit -- but will get a suit-preference signal for clubs on the fourth round of hearts, hopefully|pg|| pc|d4|pc|hT|pc|c5|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|c6|pc|h3|pc|s2|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c9|pc|cA|pc|c2|pg|| pc|h8|pc|s7|pc|sT|pc|s9|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|cQ|pg|| mc|6|pg|| qx|c7|st||md|1SQ643HQ8763D2CA87,SAJ872HK4DQ64CJ42,SKT5HAJT2D975CKT3,S9H95DAKJT83CQ965|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|2D|nt|mrdct: precision 1@d|pg|| mb|d|nt|mrdct: mkae sure you have an agreement with your regular partner about what 2@d means here. personally i play it as michaels|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|mrdct: west thinks his @DQxx are huge fillers to partner's vul over call and has a trick in each Major and just needs a card or two outside from partner|pg|| nt|mrdct: but i think this contract will end in tears|pg|| nt|mrdct: particularly if north does lead a @h, but he's likely to|pg|| nt|mrdct: *doesn't i meant|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h5|pc|h3|pc|hK|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d5|pc|dA|pc|d2|pg|| pc|dK|pc|s3|pc|dQ|pc|d7|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|c8|pc|d4|pc|d9|pg|| pc|dT|pc|c7|pc|s7|pc|s5|pg|| pc|d8|pc|s4|pc|s8|pc|c3|pg|| pc|d3|pc|sQ|pc|sJ|nt|mrdct: declarer running out of tricks|pg|| pc|hT|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s6|pc|sA|pc|sT|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|c5|pc|h6|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h9|pc|h7|pc|h4|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c6|pc|cA|pc|c2|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|c4|pc|h2|pc|c9|pg|| pc|h8|pc|cJ|pc|cT|pc|cQ|pg|| pg|| qx|o8|st||md|2SAQJ9872HD95CK875,S5HK9642DAQJTCAQ9,S4HQT873DK8764C63,SKT63HAJ5D32CJT42|sv|o|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2H|nt|TopWizard: Running Scores Open Team: http://www.worldbridge.org/repository/tourn/sanya.14/microsite/RunningScores/Asp/knockoutphaseconditstatMultievColours.asp?qtournid=1065&qphase=32|pg|| mb|4S|mb|5D|nt|kit: East knows what to do to 4@S, but he doesn't get the chance|pg|| mb|d|nt|kit: And North knows what to do to 5 of a red suit|pg|| mb|5H|nt|bobholl: N also knows what to do :)|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s4|nt|kareno: no kidding|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sJ|pc|s5|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c9|pc|c6|nt|kit: Declarer should now have a pretty good idea how the hand lies.|pg|| nt|ahollan1: does anyone play west's 5@D bid as passable? i'm picturing east hand with @S & @D exchanged|pg|| pc|cT|pg|| pc|d2|nt|kit: I would play it passable, sure|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dT|pc|dK|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|c8|pc|cQ|pg|| nt|kit: Interesting -- now if he works out the hand ...|pg|| nt|kareno: as would I|pg|| nt|kit: He can run the diamonds, pitching clubs, and lead the ace of clubs through North|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h3|pc|h5|nt|kit: I think that saves him a trick|pg|| pc|s2|pg|| nt|kit: Maybe not|pg|| nt|kit: Anyway, now he definitely has to lose 2 trump tricks|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c8|st||md|2SAQJ9872HD95CK875,S5HK9642DAQJTCAQ9,S4HQT873DK8764C63,SKT63HAJ5D32CJT42|sv|o|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|4S|nt|mrdct: most tables have played this in 4@sx|pg|| mb|d|nt|mrdct: generally -3|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|mrdct: north woould rather be defending 4@h|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s4|nt|mrdct: not looking good for Jilindingyuan here as they will be going for a number in both rooms and running out of hands to mount a comeback|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s7|pg|| pc|sA|pc|h6|pc|h3|pc|s3|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|dQ|pc|d4|pc|sK|pg|| nt|mrdct: def will want to void playing @c to take maximum advantage here|pg|| nt|mrdct: *avoid|pg|| nt|mrdct: @d might be best|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|dA|pc|d6|pg|| nt|mrdct: an irony of the imp scale is that the extra doubled undertrick is only worth 1 imp here - whereas in other cases it's worth more like 9|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|d2|pc|d9|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|c5|pc|c9|pg|| nt|mrdct: something EW will be thinking about is whether or not 4@h was making, in which case it's more important to at least get 500 to avoid a loss against that game|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hT|pc|hJ|pc|s2|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|h4|pc|d7|pc|sT|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cQ|pc|c6|pc|c2|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d8|pc|h5|pc|s8|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cA|pc|h7|pc|cT|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o9|st||md|3S652HJT7DJT87C732,SKT7HQDKQ9CAKJT86,SAQJ43HA52D3CQ954,S98HK98643DA6542C|sv|e|nt|kit: At other table West did better, doubling 4@S after same start|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|nt|ahollan1: 1N = semi-force|pg|| nt|kit: So a bunch more IMPs to Fleisher|pg|| mb|d|mb|2C|mb|4H|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: NS use 1@S-2@S as mildly constructive, so 1N can incude 3-fit with weak hand [but don't expect THIS weak]|pg|| mb|5C|mb|p|mb|5D|nt|kit: Interesting call after hearing North bid clubs naturally|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: top page for scores http://www.worldbridge.org/repository/tourn/sanya.14/microsite/Results.htm|pg|| mb|5N|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: after clicking on event [this is Open Phase of 32] remember to refresh screen to get updates|pg|| mb|6H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kit: E-W have really gone off the rails here|pg|| mb|p|pc|s2|nt|kit: North was too polite to double. I don't know that I would have been.|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sJ|pc|s9|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s8|pc|s6|pc|sT|pg|| nt|ahollan1: at unfav vul sitting east do you agree with PASS or with 65 do you make a Michaels Q ??|pg|| pc|s4|pc|d2|pc|s5|pc|sK|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|h7|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c9|pc|h4|pc|c2|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hT|pc|c8|pc|h5|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d9|pc|d3|pc|dA|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hJ|pc|cT|pc|hA|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c9|st||md|3S652HJT7DJT87C732,SKT7HQDKQ9CAKJT86,SAQJ43HA52D3CQ954,S98HK98643DA6542C|sv|e|nt|mrdct: http://www.worldbridge.org/repository/tourn/sanya.14/microsite/RunningScores/Asp/knockoutphaseconditstatMultievColours.asp?qtournid=1065&qphase=32|pg|| nt|mrdct: live scores there|pg|| mb|1S|mb|2H|mb|p|nt|mrdct: i see we have many australian in the audience for whom the bad news is that the all-australia Lorentz team is getting soundly beaten, but the mainly Australian team of "Little Meck" is well in control in their match|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|nt|mrdct: 4.5 australians on "Little Meck" with Alex Smirnov being the 0.5 until he comes to his senses and permanently migrates to Australia|pg|| mb|4D|nt|mrdct: east's hand is not well suited to NT|pg|| mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s2|nt|mrdct: interesting choice by west to go for the 10 trick game rather than the 11 trick game|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sJ|pc|s9|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s8|pc|s5|pc|s7|pg|| pc|s4|nt|mrdct: north needs to cash his aces and then sit back for south's natural trump trick|pg|| pc|d6|pc|s6|pc|sK|pg|| nt|mrdct: i should say - cash @sA and then sit back|pg|| nt|mrdct: which is what he's done|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hA|nt|mrdct: but this will still be 5 imps for Fleisher|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h7|pg|| pc|s3|pc|h9|pc|hT|pc|c6|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cJ|pc|c5|nt|mrdct: and just about game over now|pg|| pc|d5|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c9|pc|h4|pc|c2|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dT|pc|dQ|pc|d3|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|h6|pc|c7|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|dK|pc|h2|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|h8|pc|hJ|pc|cT|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d9|pc|h5|pc|dA|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|hK|pc|dJ|pc|cK|pg|| pg|| qx|o10|st||md|4SAQ953H932DA932C2,SK7HT54DQ864CAKT3,S82HAKQJDJT7C8754,SJT64H876DK5CQJ96|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hK|pc|h6|pc|h2|pc|h4|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d4|pg|| pc|h9|nt|ahollan1: on 9 where i was asking about possible Michaels Q -- Ish Del'Monte overcalled 2@H|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hQ|pc|h7|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h8|pc|h3|pc|h5|pg|| pc|hA|pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|c3|pg|| nt|kit: I don't think it is worth risking the 3-level to get diamonds into play when holding 6 hearts|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d5|pc|d2|pc|d6|pg|| pc|d7|pc|s6|pc|d3|pc|d8|pg|| mc|6|pg|| qx|c10|st||md|4SAQ953H932DA932C2,SK7HT54DQ864CAKT3,S82HAKQJDJT7C8754,SJT64H876DK5CQJ96|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|mrdct: went a few more down that i was expecting so Jilindingyuan still alive (just)|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|nt|mrdct: i actually took a quick toilet break during that hand so i'm not sure what happened|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|cJ|pc|c2|nt|mrdct: Jilindingyuan declaring NT in both rooms and may go down in both rooms|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c5|pg|| pc|c6|nt|mrdct: i'm told that is was the old "fail to draw trumps" line|pg|| pc|s3|pc|cK|pc|c7|pg|| nt|mrdct: my mum had a great saying for that along the lines of "many a man is walking the lonely streets of london because he failed to draw trumps"|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|c9|pc|h2|pg|| nt|mrdct: someone might be able to improve on that|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hJ|pc|h8|pc|h3|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d5|pc|d2|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c4|pc|cQ|pc|s5|pg|| nt|mrdct: "walking the embankment" i'm told|pg|| pc|s4|nt|mrdct: twice now so that must be it|pg|| nt|mrdct: here's another good one "The French say "10,000 Englishmen threw themselves in the Thames for drawing trumps too soon, and 10,00 for drawing trumps to late"|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s8|pc|sT|pc|sA|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hT|pc|hA|pc|h6|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h7|pc|d3|pc|h4|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|mrdct: they keep coming "The Poles say "A man who doesn't draw trumps has no boots" (it rhymes in Polish)|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s9|pc|d4|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d6|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d8|pc|dJ|pc|sJ|pg|| pg|| qx|o11|st||md|1SQ6HJT8632DK9CJT5,SKT92HK95DA86CQ96,SAJ7543HDJT74CA32,S8HAQ74DQ532CK874|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1S|mb|d|mb|r!|nt|ahollan1: RDBL = 2-fit, competitive values|pg|| mb|1N|mb|2S|mb|2N|mb|p|nt|kit: Don't know if this is takeout or natural|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: has @S suit had even split this set?|pg|| mb|p|pc|s5|nt|kit: Declarer may have to guess very well to make this -- knock out club first, then play South for king of diamonds|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pg|| nt|kit: club to king seems like reasonable way to start|pg|| pc|h9|pc|c3|nt|ahollan1: is there a way to protect against @CA in south @DK in north?|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h2|pg|| pc|c4|nt|kit: I don't understand going after hearts first -- they will always be 3-3 in the end|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pg|| nt|kit: But it got a club discard out of North, so could work|pg|| nt|kit: North knows the spades are dead, so he will not give declarer a second spade trick|pg|| nt|ahollan1: Kit is it pretty standard for 2nd hand to split with HIGHEST touching honor?|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d2|pc|d9|pc|dA|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c2|pc|c7|pc|cT|pg|| nt|kit: it is a matter of partnership agreement -- I don't think there is a "standard"|pg|| nt|kit: But in this position, the jack is pretty readable wouldn't you say?|pg|| nt|ahollan1: surely congress can agree on THAT|pg|| nt|TopWizard: Standard to play highest in this situation for sure, so partner gets the message|pg|| nt|kit: Declarer will know where king of diamonds is when spades weren't continued|pg|| nt|kit: So it looks like he will make|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i was going for general treatment rather than the specific hand|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sT|pc|sJ|pc|h4|pg|| nt|ahollan1: seems south must also have @DK for his "competitive" RDBL|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|d6|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|kit: And now North gets squeezed for the overtrick|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c11|st||md|1SQ6HJT8632DK9CJT5,SKT92HK95DA86CQ96,SAJ7543HDJT74CA32,S8HAQ74DQ532CK874|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1D|nt|mrdct: sorry all i was too busy chatting about sayings about drawing trumps to watch that hand|pg|| nt|mrdct: but the big tip is: draw them when it's right to do so|pg|| mb|1S|mb|d|mb|2C|an| |nt|mrdct: you just need to work out when that is|pg|| mb|p|mb|2S|mb|d|nt|mrdct: moss may choose to defend here|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|mrdct: another saying is that doubed partscores only every make on cross-ruffs - so lead a trump|pg|| nt|mrdct: west is almost certainly 4333 and with north not having preempted seems likely that dummy has 2 trumps so there may be a ruff there|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d9|pc|d8|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d2|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s8|pc|s6|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d5|pc|h2|pc|d6|pg|| pc|c2|nt|mrdct: the kibitzer's contributed saying continue: "Another saying - If you pass doubled partscore, kick your partner's ass if he fails to lead a trump!!"|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cT|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|h5|pc|s3|pc|h4|pc|h3|pg|| pc|s4|pc|c7|pc|sQ|pc|s2|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c6|pc|cA|pc|c8|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o12|st||md|2SKQ4HQT97643DCKJ8,SA82HJ82DKQT3CAQ7,S75H5DAJ87654CT63,SJT963HAKD92C9542|sv|n|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2H!|nt|ahollan1: will NS play duelling 7-baggers?|pg|| nt|kit: Not too much at this vul|pg|| mb|p|mb|2S|nt|kit: So E-W will just get to 4@S it looks like|pg|| mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|nt|kit: Or maybe 3NT, after this call|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: even unfavorable, i thought Willenken would DBL the transfer bid|pg|| nt|kit: Which diamond (if any) do you think Rosenberg will lead?|pg|| nt|kit: why? He doesn't want a heart lead|pg|| pc|d7|nt|ahollan1: he doesn't want a @D lead either|pg|| pc|d9|pc|h7|pc|d3|pg|| nt|kit: he wouldn't mind one against 4@S|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|s5|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|s7|pg|| nt|ahollan1: well if you're going to use logic |pg|| pc|s8|pc|d5|pc|s6|pc|sK|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c2|pg|| pc|dK|nt|kit: Declarer doing rather well this hand. Very convenient 9 of diamonds entry.|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|h3|pg|| nt|sibuea: @c |pg|| nt|kit: Maybe Rosenberg shouldn't have led a diamond. Seems almost impossible on the auction that both opponents had doubletons, which is what he needed.|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c12|st||md|2SKQ4HQT97643DCKJ8,SA82HJ82DKQT3CAQ7,S75H5DAJ87654CT63,SJT963HAKD92C9542|sv|n|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|mrdct: shame we missed that|pg|| mb|2C|mb|3H|nt|mrdct: or i did at least - i must have had a lag here as it went straight to claim here|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|3S|nt|mrdct: but i'm in a rural area with pathetic internet|pg|| mb|p|nt|mrdct: apparently the movie has the play|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|mrdct: back to this hand|pg|| nt|mrdct: looks good with a friendly lie of teh cards|pg|| mb|p|pc|hT|pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|hK|pg|| nt|mrdct: south does best to lead a @d |pg|| nt|mrdct: but can't find one|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s4|pc|s8|pc|s5|pg|| nt|mrdct: there is a voice in ish's ear saying "draw trumps"|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|s6|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|h8|pc|d8|pc|hA|pc|h7|pg|| pc|d2|pc|h3|pc|dK|pc|d7|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|d9|nt|mrdct: the first segment of the round of 16 starts in about 23 minutes from now|pg|| pc|h6|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c8|pc|cQ|pc|c3|pg|| nt|mrdct: http://www.worldbridge.org/repository/tourn/sanya.14/microsite/RunningScores/Asp/knockoutphaseconditstatMultievColours.asp?qtournid=1065&qphase=32|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o13|st||md|3SAKJ5HAKQJ2DQT3CT,SQ93H98653D752CQ2,S862H7DAK86CK7543,ST74HT4DJ94CAJ986|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1N!|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|2N!|mb|p|mb|3D|nt|ahollan1: this is final 14-board set of the Round of 32 after shortish break there will be 1st of 3 14-board sets of the Round of 16|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 1@H usually not 4@S [but South too good for Flannery]|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1N could have 4@S |pg|| pc|c8|pc|cT|nt|ahollan1: 2N RELAY 3@C too good for flannery a) 4531 b) 4540|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|ahollan1: ach 3@D too good for flannery ....|pg|| pc|cK|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h4|pc|hA|pc|h9|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h5|pc|c3|pc|hT|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h3|pc|c4|pc|d9|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h8|pc|c5|pc|s4|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d7|pc|dA|pc|d4|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|d2|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|s7|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|dK|pc|c6|pg|| nt|ahollan1: Closed Room just finished bidding 11 W He in 2@SX north|pg|| pc|d8|pc|c9|pc|h2|pc|h6|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sT|pc|sK|pc|s9|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c13|st||md|3SAKJ5HAKQJ2DQT3CT,SQ93H98653D752CQ2,S862H7DAK86CK7543,ST74HT4DJ94CAJ986|sv|b|nt|mrdct: Little Meck is through to the round of 16 defeating McMullin 160-66|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|3S|nt|mrdct: 30hcp for NS but I cant see aslam anywhere|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|sJ|pg|| nt|mrdct: some suggesting 6@d might have play|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|o14|st||md|4SJ42HA96D542CJ763,SAK873HQ8DJT963C9,S65HK73DAQ8CKQT54,SQT9HJT542DK7CA82|sv|o|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: final board of the match|pg|| mb|p|mb|1S|mb|d|mb|r!|mb|p|mb|2D|nt|ahollan1: R16 segment 1 scheduled to begin in about 50 minutes|pg|| mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|c9|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i believe @C7 is suit preference for @H|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|h8|pc|h3|pg|| pc|c6|pc|s3|pc|c5|pc|c2|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|d7|pc|d2|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|h9|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c8|pc|cJ|pc|s7|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d8|pc|dK|pc|d4|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h6|pc|dT|pc|h7|pg|| nt|ahollan1: Kit are there situations where 3rd hand card is NOT suit preference?|pg|| nt|ahollan1: at trick 1|pg|| pc|h5|pc|d5|pc|sK|pc|c4|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s9|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s6|nt|ahollan1: or do we have to wait for a new edition of your book on Partnership Defense|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s4|pg|| pc|hT|pc|sJ|pc|d9|pc|cT|pg|| pc|c3|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|sT|pg|| nt|ahollan1: haven't found a bracket sheet but traian's page shows next bbo coverage http://livebridge.net/bbo/wbf/2014sanya.php?dsp=sch&sid=54|pg|| pg|| qx|c14|st||md|4SJ42HA96D542CJ763,SAK873HQ8DJT963C9,S65HK73DAQ8CKQT54,SQT9HJT542DK7CA82|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|nt|mrdct: last hand now|pg|| mb|1S|nt|mrdct: thx to all of the usual suspects|pg|| mb|d|nt|mrdct: especially our operator who i think has been fine|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|mrdct: BBO has a young crew of local chinese youth players who i think are doing a great job|pg|| mb|p|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|c9|pg|| nt|mrdct: thx to the WBF and the WBF BBO coordinator train chira|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|h8|pc|h3|pg|| pc|c3|pc|s3|pc|c5|pc|c2|pg|| nt|mrdct: and thx to all of the sponsors and the local organisers|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d8|pc|dK|pc|d2|pg|| nt|mrdct: wd to fleisher|pg|| pc|h4|nt|mrdct: and my dinner is ready so good night all|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d7|pc|d4|pc|d3|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c8|pc|c6|pc|s8|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dQ|pc|s9|pc|d5|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h6|pc|s7|pc|h7|pg|| pc|d9|pc|c4|pc|sQ|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|s5|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|hT|pc|s4|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|cT|pc|hJ|pc|sJ|pg|| pg||