vg|52nd EBTC-BBO2,OPEN-A-RR1,I,17,32,FRANCE,0,ICELAND,0| rs|4SN+1,6SN-1,4SS=,4SS=,1NS+3,1NN+2,4SNx-4,4HE+1,5DEx+1,5HEx+1,4SS+2,4SS+2,3NS=,1NE-2,3NW+2,3NW+1,6SE-2,4SE=,5SN=,5CW+1,3CN+1,3SE=,4HN=,5HN-1,3CE-1,4HS-1,3NS+1,3NN+1,4HW=,4HE=,4HS-1,4HS-1| pn|BESSIS,BALDURSSON,BESSIS,HARALDSSON,INGIMARSSO,LEVY,MAGNUSSON,VOLCKER|pg|| qx|o17|st||md|3SAKJ8HAQ742DKJ3C4,S972HKTDQT9752CT9,SQT43HJD86CAKJ832,S65H98653DA4CQ765|sv|o|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1H|nt|gsper: Hi all!|pg|| mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|nt|gsper: CCs should be at http://www.ecatsbridge.com/Documents/docdefault.asp?page=OpenTeams&start=c%3A\inetpub\wwwroot\ecatsbridge\Documents\files\ECBOC14|pg|| nt|diana_eva: Live video here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWkSze_DNU0|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|nt|gsper: I am asked which Bessis is which. Anybode know offhand?|pg|| nt|gsper: NS play rather traditional French style, 5-card majors and strong NT|pg|| nt|DaMan: younger is Thomas|pg|| nt|gsper: I am told S son N father|pg|| nt|gsper: And now the opposite:)|pg|| nt|vugraphzct: N is Thomas, S is Michel |pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|d6|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|hJ|pg|| nt|gsper: EW play strong @C with 2+ 1@D|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|s6|pc|sA|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hT|pc|sQ|pc|h3|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d4|pc|dK|pc|d5|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d7|pc|sT|pc|h6|pg|| mc|11|nt|gsper: I think I would have bid more as S - I don't know with what result|pg|| pg|| qx|c17|st||md|3SAKJ8HAQ742DKJ3C4,S972HKTDQT9752CT9,SQT43HJD86CAKJ832,S65H98653DA4CQ765|sv|o|mb|1C!|mb|p|mb|1D!|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2D!|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|4N|mb|p|mb|5C!|mb|p|mb|5D!|mb|p|mb|6C!|mb|p|mb|6S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d6|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h4|pc|hT|pc|s3|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg|| pc|h7|pc|c9|pc|sT|pc|h6|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s6|pc|s8|pc|s7|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d4|pc|dK|mc|11|pg|| qx|o18|st||md|4SK84HAJDQ84CAKT53,SQ96H98543DAKJ5C8,SA7532HKTD93CQJ76,SJTHQ762DT762C942|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|2D!|mb|3H!|nt|athene: hi good afternoon everyone|pg|| mb|d|nt|gsper: Wlc!|pg|| nt|athene: 3@H some sort of transfer lebensohl - 5+ spades GF i guess|pg|| mb|3S|mb|p|nt|gsper: Their CC says 2@D=good+M overcall, but It looks more like DONT|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|athene: few expert pairs play traditional lebensohl these days; it's definitely advantageous to use transfers|pg|| pc|dA|nt|athene: firstly, responder gets his suit across immediately; secondly, it's usually much better to have overcaller on lead with the notrump hand playing it|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|d4|pg|| pc|h3|nt|gsper: Leb sometimes gives more information about strength, though|pg|| pc|hT|nt|athene: nothing to the play here; @DAK and a trump to lose|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s6|pc|s2|pc|sT|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s9|pc|sA|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|athene: declarer's main strategy to deal with a bad trump break is "hope there isn't one"|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|c8|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c4|pc|cK|mc|10|pg|| qx|c18|st||md|4SK84HAJDQ84CAKT53,SQ96H98543DAKJ5C8,SA7532HKTD93CQJ76,SJTHQ762DT762C942|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1C!|mb|1H|mb|d!|mb|3H!|mb|d!|mb|p|mb|4H!|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d7|pc|d4|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d9|pc|dT|pc|d8|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|s6|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s9|pc|sA|pc|sT|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o19|st||md|1SAKTH92DK987CAT98,S98643HAJ74DA5CJ7,SQ72HK653DQT2CK42,SJ5HQT8DJ643CQ653|sv|e|nt|gsper: Sry, CC says 2@C@D=nat+@H . I looked at weak NT|pg|| mb|1D|mb|1S|mb|d|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|gsper: I am asked about link for live scores. Operator, do you know?|pg|| nt|vugraphzct: http://www.eurobridge.org/repository/competitions/14Opatija/microsite/results.htm|pg|| nt|gsper: It seems http://www.eurobridge.org/repository/competitions/14Opatija/microsite/results.htm|pg|| pc|cJ|nt|athene: nice spot cards with south; some might upgrade to 15-17 notrump|pg|| nt|athene: when you have 14 vs 10 you often reach game playing 14-16 and stop in 1nt playing 15-17|pg|| nt|athene: common cause of swings|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c3|pc|c8|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c5|nt|gsper: 1@S at red with that suit is not to everybody's taste|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c7|pg|| nt|athene: i can't say i am a huge fan of the opening lead|pg|| nt|athene: just plod away at spades looks normal|pg|| nt|athene: @CJx very likely to cost and needs partner to have monster clubs to score a big goal|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d5|pc|d2|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s2|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dA|pc|dT|pc|d3|pg|| nt|athene: perhaps EW play redouble would have shown a top spade|pg|| nt|athene: so west knows declarer has solid 3 or 4 spade tricks|pg|| nt|athene: but that's ok|pg|| pc|s3|nt|athene: the spade lead is just passive but in the (very) long term establishing a trick|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sJ|pc|sT|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c6|pc|cT|pc|s8|pg|| pc|cA|pc|h4|pc|h3|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|d8|pc|s6|pc|dQ|pc|d4|pg|| nt|athene: livecam: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWkSze_DNU0|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c19|st||md|1SAKTH92DK987CAT98,S98643HAJ74DA5CJ7,SQ72HK653DQT2CK42,SJ5HQT8DJ643CQ653|sv|e|mb|1C!|mb|1S|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s2|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d5|pc|dQ|pc|d3|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d4|pc|d8|pc|dA|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hK|pc|h8|pc|h2|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d6|pc|d9|pc|s9|pg|| pc|dK|pc|s4|pc|h3|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s6|pc|s7|pc|s5|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s8|pc|sQ|pc|hT|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c7|pc|cK|pc|c3|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|cA|pc|cJ|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o20|st||md|2SKHQ7DJ92CKT87632,SJ7HT86542DA87CA4,SAT9642H3DQT63C95,SQ853HAKJ9DK54CQJ|sv|b|nt|athene: Baldursson seems to like bidding weak major suits|pg|| nt|athene: maybe this is a weak-2@H opener for him|pg|| mb|2H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|athene: some people will wince, but i don't mind it that much|pg|| nt|athene: as long as you stay cheerful and optimistic, partner will provide AKJ9 or so for you|pg|| nt|athene: now Bessis has a bit of a guess to make|pg|| mb|4S|mb|d|nt|athene: 4@S could be extremely right or extremely wrong|pg|| nt|gsper: I have tried cheerful and optimistic but my partner does not comply|pg|| nt|athene: his problem is that east on this auction could have a weakish hand with good heart support, OR a very strong hand without much support|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hA|nt|athene: in the former case 4@S will be great; in the latter it might be a phantom 1100|pg|| nt|gsper: E thinks he knows which|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h4|pc|h3|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hQ|pc|h2|pc|s2|pg|| nt|gsper: But at least it is not a phantom|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|dJ|nt|athene: everyone out there who deplores 2@H vulnerable on a 10-high suit with two side aces - remember to make a note of this hand on the other side of the ledger|pg|| pc|dA|pg|| nt|athene: if west starts with a pass, then almost certainly NS are going to have an easier life, whatever happens|pg|| nt|gsper: N fears to be shortened in trumps, so he follows the advice: go for the side suit first|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|sK|pg|| nt|gsper: Risking a @D ruff, but that will not happen this time|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d8|pc|d6|pc|dK|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|c3|pc|h5|pc|s6|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cJ|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c5|pc|cQ|pc|c2|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|dT|nt|gsper: Now, can E expect W to have a trump left? With 7 @S N might have bit at once?|pg|| pc|h9|pc|c6|nt|athene: north catering for @SQJx(x) over him; this way he still gets two tricks|pg|| pc|sJ|pg|| mc|6|pg|| qx|c20|st||md|2SKHQ7DJ92CKT87632,SJ7HT86542DA87CA4,SAT9642H3DQT63C95,SQ853HAKJ9DK54CQJ|sv|b|mb|p|mb|2H!|an|!S|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3D!|an|!h|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sK|pc|s7|pc|s9|pc|s8|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d7|pc|d3|pc|dK|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|h2|pc|h3|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hQ|pc|h4|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s3|pc|c7|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d4|pc|dJ|pc|dA|pg|| pc|h5|pc|s4|pc|h9|pc|c2|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|c3|pc|d8|mc|11|pg|| qx|o21|st||md|3S643H74D93CA97543,SK52HKQT92D852CQ6,SAJT87HA3D4CKJT82,SQ9HJ865DAKQJT76C|sv|n|mb|1S|mb|2D|nt|athene: i'm asked which way round NS are sitting - i don't know which is father, which son, sorry|pg|| nt|gsper: Michel S, accordning to operator|pg|| nt|athene: i'm told N is Thomas|pg|| mb|2S|nt|vugraphzct: yes |pg|| mb|d|mb|4S|nt|athene: north's double in the other room looks a bit dodgy - surely he has to be scared of a double fit|pg|| mb|5D|nt|athene: i guess, in the context of 3@C, he has fair defence with the @HAx|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|sT|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|d4|pg|| nt|gsper: Overtrick is unlikely here|pg|| nt|athene: 4@S sort of rolling the dice and gambling that it forced east to guess wrong|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d9|pc|d5|pc|s8|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h7|pc|h2|nt|athene: but still, you would expect south to double 5@D on this bidding with a trick in diamonds|pg|| pc|h3|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h4|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| pc|cK|pc|d6|pc|c3|pc|c6|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|c21|st||md|3S643H74D93CA97543,SK52HKQT92D852CQ6,SAJT87HA3D4CKJT82,SQ9HJ865DAKQJT76C|sv|n|mb|1S|mb|2D|mb|2S|mb|d|mb|3C|mb|4H|mb|4S|mb|5H|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s6|pc|s2|pc|sT|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h4|pc|hK|pc|h3|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|h7|pg|| pc|cT|mc|12|pg|| qx|o22|st||md|4SAKQJHK62DA3C7654,S84HQJT94DQ74CJ98,S7652HA8DJ652CAKQ,ST93H753DKT98CT32|sv|e|nt|athene: when you conceal a 2-suiter, sometimes the opponents get stung, but often it's your partne|pg|| nt|athene: *partner|pg|| mb|p|nt|gsper: That looked like +1, but players probably were too fast for the operator|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|nt|athene: with plenty of HCP and a weak suit north might just bid 3nt here|pg|| nt|athene: i mean a weak spade suit|pg|| mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hQ|nt|athene: 12 tricks trivial of course|pg|| nt|athene: perhaps the best way to play is draw two rounds of trumps then play the clubs|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h2|pg|| nt|athene: with the idea that you can get a heart ruff AND a club ruff if someone has 3 trumps and 4 clubs|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|s4|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s8|pc|s5|pc|s9|pg|| nt|athene: if someone ruffs in on the clubs with the third trump you didn't lose as now you can ruff the club anyway|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|hJ|pc|s6|pc|sT|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c8|pc|cQ|pc|c2|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c3|nt|gsper: But still a @D loser?|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c9|pg|| pc|cA|pc|cT|pc|c6|pc|cJ|pg|| nt|athene: yes, sure|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|h9|pg|| mc|12|nt|athene: if you are going to draw three rounds of trumps perhaps ducking a diamond next is right, giving a few small extra chances when clubs don't break|pg|| pg|| qx|c22|st||md|4SAKQJHK62DA3C7654,S84HQJT94DQ74CJ98,S7652HA8DJ652CAKQ,ST93H753DKT98CT32|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1C!|mb|p|mb|1H!|an|!S|mb|p|mb|3D!|an|cue|mb|p|mb|3H!|mb|p|mb|3S!|an|balanced|mb|p|mb|3N!|mb|p|mb|4D!|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h2|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|sJ|pc|s4|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s8|pc|s5|pc|s9|pg|| pc|sK|pc|hJ|pc|s6|pc|sT|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|h8|pc|h5|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h9|pc|s7|pc|h7|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|c8|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c3|pc|c5|pc|c9|pg|| pc|cA|pc|cT|pc|c6|pc|cJ|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|o23|st||md|1SA87H86D87CKQ9532,S96HQ942DJ9543C86,SJT4HK753DKT2CAT4,SKQ532HAJTDAQ6CJ7|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|nt|fluff: the french have a theory; with 25 pts total, bid 3nt, even with 4M; with 28+, bid stayman; read that in Le bridgeur|pg|| mb|d|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|athene: 3nt has many more chances played by north|pg|| nt|athene: for example a small spade lead|pg|| nt|athene: declarer can run the clubs and surely bad things will happen to east in the red suits|pg|| nt|gsper: Doubling on the E hand is a bit old-fashioned, but still going strong|pg|| nt|athene: i remember Bocchi saying about this sort of auction|pg|| nt|athene: it's better for 3@C by south to be the strong raise, so you rightside 3nt|pg|| nt|athene: 2NT should be the pre-empt|pg|| pc|d4|nt|athene: but even if south had a bid to show a strong raise which let north declare|pg|| nt|athene: he perhaps felt he had SUCH a monster in support of clubs, they would never get there unless he just bid it|pg|| nt|athene: many would be opening the south hand of course|pg|| nt|athene: ok - not many - but some for sure|pg|| nt|gsper: With what?|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dQ|nt|athene: most strong clubbers would open it 2@C|pg|| pc|d7|pg|| nt|gsper: I am afraid you are right|pg|| nt|athene: don't be afraid! it's june! sun = shining, birds = singing, 9-counts = opening bids :)|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|s9|pc|s4|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d3|pc|dT|pc|dA|pg|| nt|fluff: i imagine papa had a few chosen words for his son's solo flight on brd 20 :)|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s7|pc|s6|pc|sT|pg|| nt|gsper: This seems to be making. There is no justice|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s8|pc|d9|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c7|pc|cK|pc|c6|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c8|pc|cA|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d6|pc|h6|pc|d5|pg|| mc|9|nt|athene: board 20 post-mortem something like this: N: "They had 4@H on, partner!" S: "So, I'll put it down as a good, shall I?"|pg|| nt|gsper: There are a couple of deragotory views on the defence, but it was not easy|pg|| pg|| qx|c23|st||md|1SA87H86D87CKQ9532,S96HQ942DJ9543C86,SJT4HK753DKT2CAT4,SKQ532HAJTDAQ6CJ7|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c5|pc|c6|pc|cA|pc|c7|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cJ|pc|cK|pc|c8|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|s6|pc|c4|pc|s5|pg|| pc|c9|pc|s9|pc|sJ|pc|s2|pg|| pc|c3|pc|h2|pc|h7|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|c2|pc|d3|pc|s4|pc|d6|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h4|pc|h3|pc|hT|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|d4|pc|sT|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h9|pc|h5|pc|hA|pg|| pc|sQ|mc|5|pg|| qx|o24|st||md|2SKT852H875DKT6CT3,SJ9764HATDAJ8CKJ7,S3HKQ43D9742C8642,SAQHJ962DQ53CAQ95|sv|o|nt|gsper: I think E was in great danger of a squeeze|pg|| nt|fluff: right, and said in aclm tone, as the french ca do :)merci :)|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|nt|gsper: I am afraid I have to leave you. Bye all!|pg|| nt|athene: ok bye for now|pg|| nt|athene: if east is thinking, it's surely the same decision as we discussed a moment ago|pg|| mb|3C|nt|athene: do you bother with stayman with plenty of points?|pg|| mb|p|nt|fluff: 3c = puppet ?|pg|| mb|3S|mb|p|nt|athene: i guess so|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|athene: we still can't be sure of east's intentions; perhaps he wanted to play 4@H in a 5-4 fit, otherwise 3NT|pg|| pc|h3|nt|athene: but he could have been interested in a 4-4 heart fit still; it depends on their methods|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|hT|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|h6|pg|| pc|s6|pc|c2|pc|sA|pc|s8|pg|| nt|athene: now should be 11 tricks; south gets totally crushed on the run of the clubs|pg|| nt|athene: admittedly declarer does have to read the cards but i don't think he will be risking going down|pg|| pc|d3|nt|athene: basically on the two long clubs south can throw one spade but then has to throw his heart (his link card to partner) after which he gets endplayed in spades and diamonds|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dJ|pc|d2|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|c5|pc|c3|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c6|pc|c9|pc|cT|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c8|pc|cA|pc|s2|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|h7|nt|athene: now diamond to ace and diamond|pg|| pc|s7|nt|athene: and south has to lead into the spades|pg|| pc|d4|pg|| nt|athene: strip-squeeze, all pretty much marked|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dT|pc|dA|pc|d7|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d9|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pg|| mc|11|nt|athene: so one overtrick imp and one style point for Baldursson|pg|| pg|| qx|c24|st||md|2SKT852H875DKT6CT3,SJ9764HATDAJ8CKJ7,S3HKQ43D9742C8642,SAQHJ962DQ53CAQ95|sv|o|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2C!|an|gf|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d7|pc|d3|pc|dT|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d5|pg|| pc|s6|pc|h3|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c3|pc|cK|pc|c2|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c4|pc|c9|pc|cT|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c6|pc|cQ|pc|h8|pg|| pc|cA|pc|h7|pc|s7|pc|c8|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|hA|pc|h4|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|d2|pc|h6|pc|s5|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d9|pc|dQ|pc|d6|pg|| pc|h9|pc|s8|pc|hT|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hJ|pc|sT|pc|s9|pg|| pg|| qx|o25|st||md|3ST4HA863DAKT86C53,SA76H7D75CAKJ9764,SJ3HJT9542D92CT82,SKQ9852HKQDQJ43CQ|sv|e|mb|3H|mb|3S|mb|5H|nt|athene: "so, you think your 2@H on board 20 was brave?" asks North. "watch THIS!"|pg|| mb|6S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|fluff: wow|pg|| mb|p|pc|dA|nt|athene: so this is the second time in the set an "unsound" pre-empt gains a huge swing|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d9|pc|d3|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d7|pc|d2|pc|d4|pg|| nt|athene: it's easy to point the figure at the side that did the wrong thing|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|h2|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|d6|nt|athene: but when your opponents bid a lot, you will make more mistakes than when they pass respectfully throughout|pg|| pc|sA|pc|c2|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|s4|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sT|pc|s6|pc|sJ|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c25|st||md|3ST4HA863DAKT86C53,SA76H7D75CAKJ9764,SJ3HJT9542D92CT82,SKQ9852HKQDQJ43CQ|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|d|mb|r|an|11 plus|mb|3H!|mb|p|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d9|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|hJ|pc|hK|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d7|pc|d2|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|dT|pc|sA|pc|h2|pc|d3|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|s4|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sT|pc|s7|pc|sJ|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o26|st||md|4SQJ9765HJ96DQTC54,SHK72DA73CAKQJT72,SAK842HADKJ852C63,ST3HQT8543D964C98|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C!|nt|Aurora: hello all:) Live video from this table on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWkSze_DNU0|pg|| nt|fluff: preempt 1rst seat, you can fool 2 opps for only 1 partner :)|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|mb|3S|nt|athene: is west thinking, and if so, what is he thinking?|pg|| nt|athene: is he debating between 4@C and 5@C?|pg|| nt|athene: someone suggests 4@C may show hearts and clubs|pg|| mb|4C|nt|athene: this is the "non-leaping michaels" principle|pg|| nt|athene: which is used now in several "new" situations|pg|| mb|4D|mb|4H|mb|4S|mb|5C|nt|athene: west must feel now that a slam might well make on spade lead but not on diamond|pg|| nt|athene: but if he bids 6@C or 6@H there i would say a diamond is the normal lead|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|mb|5S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|athene: hmmm|pg|| nt|athene: i wonder if west thought his pass was forcing|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c4|pc|cJ|pc|c3|pg|| nt|athene: but it doesn't matter much; NS won this one by bidding 5 over 5|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h6|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d4|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pg|| pc|hK|pc|s8|pc|h5|pc|h9|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s5|pc|d3|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sT|pc|sQ|nt|athene: EW won't know if they gained small (diamond lead beats 5@C) or lost big (5@C or 6@C could easily make)|pg|| pc|c2|pg|| mc|11|nt|athene: ouch|pg|| nt|athene: sorry i assumed that was going one off|pg|| pg|| qx|c26|st||md|4SQJ9765HJ96DQTC54,SHK72DA73CAKQJT72,SAK842HADKJ852C63,ST3HQT8543D964C98|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|2C!|an|strong|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|5C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h6|pc|h2|pg|| pc|s8|mc|12|pg|| qx|o27|st||md|1S532H72DKJ842CT95,SKJ97HA9863DTCJ73,SQ6HQT4DA93CAKQ64,SAT84HKJ5DQ765C82|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|p|nt|athene: EW messed up their count signals in hearts?|pg|| mb|1D|mb|d|nt|athene: @C8 lead ambiguous? could have been @C986?|pg|| mb|r|nt|athene: so west didn't know which was cashing, the heart or the club|pg|| mb|2S|nt|athene: usually these disasters are caused by one person thinking the heart signal is attitude, and his partner thinking count|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|athene: useless to say "we give what we need to know" - you need more specific rules than that|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Aurora: Running Scores: http://www.eurobridge.org/repository/competitions/14Opatija/microsite/RunningScores/Asp/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?qtournid=1023&qshowflag=1|pg|| nt|athene: north thought his hand was too good for a 15-17 notrump?|pg|| nt|athene: maybe it is|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cT|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d5|pc|dJ|pc|dT|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c3|pc|cK|pc|c8|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|s4|pc|c5|pc|c7|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d2|pc|h6|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d7|pc|d8|pc|h3|pg|| pc|dK|pc|s7|pc|s6|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|d4|pc|s9|pc|sQ|pc|s8|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h8|pc|hT|pc|hJ|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c27|st||md|1S532H72DKJ842CT95,SKJ97HA9863DTCJ73,SQ6HQT4DA93CAKQ64,SAT84HKJ5DQ765C82|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C!|mb|p|mb|1S!|an|xfer to 1NT|mb|2C!|an|majors|mb|d!|an|!C|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c5|pc|c3|pc|cQ|pc|c8|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|c9|pc|c7|pg|| pc|cA|pc|s4|pc|cT|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s7|pc|s6|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s3|pc|s9|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d2|pc|dT|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d6|pc|d4|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h4|pc|hJ|pc|h2|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h7|pc|h6|pc|hT|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s5|pc|sK|mc|9|pg|| qx|o28|st||md|2SAKTHQJ52D852C964,SQ97HT6DT764CQT85,SJHK8743DQ3CAKJ72,S865432HA9DAKJ9C3|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|1S|nt|athene: 5@C in the other room looks a bit wild|pg|| nt|athene: obviously north worried about the "inevitable" 4@S|pg|| nt|athene: but maybe partner has that covered|pg|| nt|athene: no need to panic|pg|| mb|2N!|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|nt|athene: 2NT invitational 4-card raise, i assume|pg|| mb|3S|mb|p|nt|athene: south looking for 3nt?|pg|| nt|athene: well, north will want no part of 3nt|pg|| nt|athene: with a 5-5 hand after his partner raised the major :)|pg|| mb|4C|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|athene: maybe NS not sure about strength - one or other of them unlimited|pg|| nt|athene: 4@C clearly has slam interest|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d4|nt|athene: i'm told that in french system 2NT is limited - but that might not apply in competition|pg|| pc|d3|pg|| nt|athene: clearly north has no slam interest whatsoever, facing only a limit raise|pg|| nt|athene: east's job is to cash his @DK now and then do his best impression of a man with @CQ3|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d2|pc|d6|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|s2|nt|athene: as a kibitzer suggests, one possibility for east there was to shift to the singleton club|pg|| nt|athene: then hope to win the @HA, put his partner in with the @DQ, and get a ruff|pg|| nt|athene: i don't know if west's card on the diamond told him that wasn't happening|pg|| nt|athene: but anyway, he must realise that declarer is likely to have ten cards in clubs and hearts|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|h2|nt|athene: so even if he did have @Dxx then he could throw a diamond on the spade|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sT|pc|sQ|pc|h3|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h9|pc|hQ|pc|hT|pg|| nt|athene: perhaps you should not be too worried about giving away a possible overtrick if there's any chance to beat - but sometimes that might give away the contract|pg|| nt|athene: if partner has a natural club trick|pg|| nt|athene: so i think it was pretty sensible to just cash the diamonds|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c5|pc|cA|pc|c3|pg|| pc|h8|pc|s6|pc|hJ|pc|d7|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c8|pc|cJ|mc|10|nt|athene: ok, east didn't do a good enough impression of a @CQx man|pg|| nt|athene: or perhaps he did but the screen obscured it|pg|| pg|| qx|c28|st||md|2SAKTHQJ52D852C964,SQ97HT6DT764CQT85,SJHK8743DQ3CAKJ72,S865432HA9DAKJ9C3|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|1S|mb|2S!|mb|d|mb|5C|mb|p|mb|5H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|d3|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|d4|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h9|pc|hQ|pc|h6|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hT|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o29|st||md|3ST853HAQ2DKQ7CJ63,SK92HJ97DJ962CT52,S74HK86543DA54CQ9,SAQJ6HTDT83CAK874|sv|b|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|2H|nt|athene: interesting what a difference the vulnerability makes|pg|| mb|d|nt|athene: we saw earlier what North thought a 3@H opener looked like, NV|pg|| nt|athene: but this wasn't even 2@H, vul|pg|| mb|r|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|p|nt|athene: north passing initially should keep his side out of game i think|pg|| nt|athene: now south will content himself with 3@H|pg|| mb|p|nt|athene: wow|pg|| nt|athene: he contents himself with 3@C!|pg|| pc|c6|nt|athene: ok i am told NS don't play 2@H as a weak-two|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c9|pc|cK|pg|| nt|athene: ok so 5 imps anyway|pg|| nt|athene: bidding 3@H would have been 6|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c5|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dQ|pc|d2|pc|d4|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cT|nt|athene: i have conflicting suggests as to NS's 2@H opener|pg|| pc|h4|pc|c4|pg|| nt|athene: some say it is strong|pg|| nt|athene: some say it's weak with both majors|pg|| nt|athene: does that depend on vulnerability?|pg|| nt|athene: sounds a bit like bocchi-madala's methods|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|h3|pc|hT|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h9|pc|hK|pc|c7|pg|| pc|d8|nt|athene: declarer plods on, trying to persuade the defence to crash their diamond honours|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d6|pc|dA|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dT|pc|dK|pc|d9|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c29|st||md|3ST853HAQ2DKQ7CJ63,SK92HJ97DJ962CT52,S74HK86543DA54CQ9,SAQJ6HTDT83CAK874|sv|b|mb|2D!|mb|d!|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|sA|pc|s5|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|c9|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|cT|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s3|pc|s9|pc|s7|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cJ|pc|c5|pc|d4|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o30|st||md|4SKQ62HK64DAT64C32,ST754HJ872D98CK65,SA93HAQ5DQ5CQJT94,SJ8HT93DKJ732CA87|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s5|pc|s3|pc|s8|pc|sK|pg|| pc|c2|nt|athene: hard to see declarer making anything other than ten tricks here - 3 spades, 3 hearts, 3 clubs, 1 diamond|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|c7|pg|| nt|athene: ok, he might end up getting the @D10 as well, but opps will have taken @CAK and a diamond by then so it won't bring him any additional joy|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d5|pc|dJ|pc|dA|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c5|pc|c9|nt|athene: Running Scores: http://www.eurobridge.org/repository/competitions/14Opatija/microsite/RunningScores/Asp/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?qtournid=1023&qshowflag=1|pg|| pc|cA|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d4|pc|d8|pc|dQ|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c30|st||md|4SKQ62HK64DAT64C32,ST754HJ872D98CK65,SA93HAQ5DQ5CQJT94,SJ8HT93DKJ732CA87|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hT|mc|10|pg|| qx|o31|st||md|1SJ432HQJ9DK853C83,SAK98H872DJ7CQT92,SQT75H43DT964CA54,S6HAKT65DAQ2CKJ76|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|nt|athene: NS too balanced and vulnerable to wade in over the strong club here|pg|| nt|athene: so EW will have a boring auction to 4@H i imagine|pg|| mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|nt|athene: i'm guessing this is a relay auction; east is saying "what have you got?" and west is saying "i've got this!"|pg|| mb|3D|mb|p|nt|athene: 3@D probably says he has exactly 4-3-2-4 shape|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|athene: and east knows there's no chance of slam facing a passed hand so just signs off|pg|| mb|p|nt|athene: will north try underleading the club?|pg|| nt|athene: that's vaguely appealing with a strong hand in dummy|pg|| nt|athene: but less appealing when declarer has four clubs and dummy might be short in the suit|pg|| nt|athene: i think a diamond is the normal lead on the auction|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s6|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d4|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pg|| nt|athene: i wonder why declarer took the diamond finesse? |pg|| pc|d3|pc|dJ|pc|d9|pc|d2|pg|| nt|athene: rather than playing trumps?|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h4|nt|athene: it looks as though the diamond finesse can surely wait|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h9|pg|| nt|athene: small heart off dummy is normal now, catering for the @H9 being a singleton|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hJ|pc|h7|pc|h3|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c31|st||md|1SJ432HQJ9DK853C83,SAK98H872DJ7CQT92,SQT75H43DT964CA54,S6HAKT65DAQ2CKJ76|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s6|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|h9|pg|| nt|vugraphzcu: sorry technical issue|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hJ|pc|h7|pc|h4|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h8|pc|s7|pc|hK|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|cA|pg|| pc|dT|mc|10|pg|| qx|o32|st||md|2ST42HK9542DK4CAKJ,SQJ985HAJDT876C42,SK3HT87DAQJ53CQT8,SA76HQ63D92C97653|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|athene: just one off looks normal in 4@H|pg|| nt|athene: declarer won't lead a trump to the king |pg|| mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2D|nt|athene: you would only do that if you needed to draw as many rounds as possible, fast; or get to your hand fast|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|nt|athene: you take a double finesse, just playing east for at least one of the queen and jack|pg|| nt|athene: ok, so going through 2-way new minor forcing will presumably show 5 hearts|pg|| nt|athene: and north will correcty|pg|| nt|athene: correct|pg|| nt|athene: is north wondering which game to play, or trying to remember if south's auction really did promise five hearts?|pg|| nt|fluff: why didnt north bid 2h as he denied 4 with 1nt ?|pg|| nt|athene: well 2@C just forces 2@D|pg|| nt|fluff: ok|pg|| nt|athene: in most methods|pg|| nt|fluff: roudi, i huess|pg|| nt|athene: south might want to sign off in 2@D, or else make some invitational bid|pg|| nt|fluff: guess|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|athene: i'm told 2@C then 3NT shows 5332, as expected|pg|| nt|athene: ok, and as expected north corrects|pg|| nt|athene: well, there is good news and bad news here|pg|| nt|athene: bad news: 4@H will go down|pg|| nt|athene: good news: 3NT would have gone down as well|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|athene: as soon as that lead hits, declarer knows he needs to play trumps for one loser|pg|| nt|athene: this is difficult, against sober opponents|pg|| nt|athene: even mildly tipsy ones, actually|pg|| nt|fluff: i can count 4 drinks myself :)|pg|| nt|athene: against beginners you lead the @H10 and hope east covers from @HAJxx :)|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s4|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sT|pc|sJ|pc|s3|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c8|pc|c3|pc|cA|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s8|pc|h7|pc|s6|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cQ|pc|c5|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h6|pc|h4|pc|hA|pg|| pc|s9|pc|d3|nt|athene: ok thanks all|pg|| mc|9|nt|fluff: great start for france|pg|| pg|| qx|c32|st||md|2ST42HK9542DK4CAKJ,SQJ985HAJDT876C42,SK3HT87DAQJ53CQT8,SA76HQ63D92C97653|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1N!|nt|vugraphzcu: last board of this session, next one is starting in an hour's time|pg|| mb|p|mb|2H!|an|inv+ with 5+ !H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cJ|pc|c4|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s3|pc|s7|pc|s4|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c8|pc|c9|pc|cA|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d6|pc|dQ|pc|d2|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h6|pc|h4|pc|hA|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dA|pc|d9|pc|dK|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|s5|pg|| mc|9|pg||