vg|BBO1-2nd Mind Sports Games,O-SF-6_6,I,17,32,MONACO,146,SWEDEN,171| rs|3NS=,1NN+2,5DWx-1,5HW=,3CN+1,2NN+2,3NE=,3NE=,2NS=,2NS-1,5DE+1,6DE-1,3DW=,3NE-1,4SS-2,4SSx=,4SS-2,4SN-1,6DE+1,7HW-1,1NS+1,1NS+1,3NE+1,3NE=,3NN=,3NN=,4SE-1,4SE-1,3NS+2,3NS=,2HN=,1NE=| pn|HELGEMO,NYSTROM,HELNESS,UPMARK,BERTHEAU,NUNES,CULLIN,FANTONI|pg|| qx|o17|st||md|3SA52HAT7DJT9CKQT3,SKTH543D87432CA96,SQJ83HQ8DKQ65C854,S9764HKJ962DACJ72|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d8|pc|d5|pc|dA|pc|d9|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h7|pc|h5|pc|h8|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c7|pc|cQ|pc|c6|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sK|pc|s3|pc|s4|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hQ|pc|hK|mc|9|pg|| qx|c17|st||md|3SA52HAT7DJT9CKQT3,SKTH543D87432CA96,SQJ83HQ8DKQ65C854,S9764HKJ962DACJ72|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|nt|cumino: Good afternoon|pg|| mb|1C|mb|p|nt|kit: hi everybody|pg|| nt|vugraphzbd: last segment to decide who will go to the final|pg|| mb|1H|an|4!s|mb|d|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|nt|kit: Looks like will be a quiet 1NT contract|pg|| mb|p|nt|jillan: Hi all :)|pg|| nt|vugraphzbd: probably who win this semifinal will face the poland who is leading 70 to ireland|pg|| nt|fabsayc: with all the intermediates 3nt has a play|pg|| nt|kit: is South really thinking of bidding more here? If so, I don't understand.|pg|| nt|kit: Yes, 3NT does have play, and might be reached if South opens 1NT.|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|h2|nt|cumino: Palye by North 3NT could make with @H lead|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h5|pc|h8|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dA|pc|d9|pc|d2|pg|| nt|andersk: Info regarding open room....It will start around 15-17 minutes after 5 pm, local time...thats 10 min from now...ty|pg|| nt|kit: I wonder what the double of 1@H showed. If it showed hearts, would have expected a heart lead.|pg|| nt|kit: oh sorry, not paying attention.|pg|| nt|cumino: Being 1@H artificial is @H|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hT|pc|h4|pc|hQ|pg|| nt|cumino: After previous pass|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|c4|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c6|pc|c5|pc|c7|pg|| nt|cumino: sry should be noy "is"|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d3|pc|d6|pc|h6|pg|| nt|cumino: He Knows A@C in West|pg|| nt|cumino: And K@S |pg|| nt|ehsana: ............and East has no entry |pg|| nt|kit: now pretty safe to play a spade|pg|| nt|cumino: may be he plays small spade now|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|s3|pc|s4|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dQ|mc|9|pg|| qx|o18|st||md|4S62HAT72D62CJT642,SJHK8653DAQJT94CQ,SAKQT9743H4D75CK9,S85HQJ9DK83CA8753|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|4N|mb|d|mb|r|mb|p|mb|5D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h9|pc|hA|pc|h3|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|d5|pc|hJ|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c18|st||md|4S62HAT72D62CJT642,SJHK8653DAQJT94CQ,SAKQT9743H4D75CK9,S85HQJ9DK83CA8753|sv|n|nt|kit: So possible swing for Monaco if they bid and make 3NT in other room.|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|4S|nt|cumino: He is third after partner pass. So I don't know if he likes to open 1NT with 14. |pg|| nt|kit: North will bid 4@S, but West won't stop there|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|mb|5D|nt|cumino: Are 14 + 10 109 10 (Almost 16) :) |pg|| mb|p|mb|5H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sK|nt|kit: 5@D would be down on heart ruff -- 5@H has a chance|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|sJ|pg|| nt|ehsana: interesting now|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s8|pc|s6|pc|h3|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h4|pc|hQ|nt|kit: If South had third spade, 5@H would be beaten -- but not as the cards lie|pg|| nt|kit: So will be great result for Monaco|pg|| nt|ehsana: true|pg|| nt|cumino: 5@S doubled in the case will depend by the lead 1 or 2 down. |pg|| nt|cumino: 3NT in CR Helgemo opened 1NT|pg|| nt|ehsana: HA and dmdn play can scare declarer |pg|| nt|cumino: x@d lead|pg|| nt|kit: Best defense is to duck 2 hearts and hope that declarer will be afraid to play a third heart, since down a lot if South has another spade|pg|| pc|h2|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|s4|pg|| pc|hT|mc|11|pg|| qx|o19|st||md|1S862HJ653DQ72CA53,SAQ9543HA2DT986CJ,SKTH84DAK3CKQ9874,SJ7HKQT97DJ54CT62|sv|e|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sJ|pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|sT|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|h7|pc|h3|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h8|pc|hK|pc|h5|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h6|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|s3|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c6|pc|c5|mc|10|pg|| qx|c19|st||md|1S862HJ653DQ72CA53,SAQ9543HA2DT986CJ,SKTH84DAK3CKQ9874,SJ7HKQT97DJ54CT62|sv|e|mb|p|mb|2S|nt|kit: N-S need to get to 3NT -- they might if North overcalls 2NT|pg|| mb|2N|nt|cumino: 2NT may b letter than 3@C|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sJ|pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|sK|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|cJ|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o20|st||md|2ST9754HQ74DKTCK92,SKQ2HAT52D9852C65,SJ6HJ983DQJ74CQJ4,SA83HK6DA63CAT873|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s4|pc|sK|pc|s6|pc|s3|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pc|c2|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cK|pc|c6|pc|c4|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c9|pc|h2|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|dT|pc|d2|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|d7|pc|d6|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c20|st||md|2ST9754HQ74DKTCK92,SKQ2HAT52D9852C65,SJ6HJ983DQJ74CQJ4,SA83HK6DA63CAT873|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|nt|cumino: 5@D doubled at 18 I think they will beat|pg|| mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1N|nt|kit: they did beat it|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s4|pc|sK|pc|s6|pc|s8|pg|| pc|c5|nt|kit: Declarer will play for 3-3 club split. Defense can attack diamonds, but will not be able to get 3 tricks |pg|| pc|c4|pc|cT|pc|cK|pg|| nt|warrens: assuming declarer wins the first @D. is that obvious?|pg|| nt|kit: or ducks the first 2 diamonds|pg|| nt|warrens: right, good point :)|pg|| nt|kit: Diamond shift actually quite findable here|pg|| nt|ehsana: again an interesting hand..nothing obvious|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sQ|pc|sJ|nt|jbennet: even on a d shift 3nt not beqatable.|pg|| pc|s3|pg|| nt|cumino: Froma South I could play @H for KJ9x or KJ8x|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pc|c2|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c9|nt|kit: he was simply hoping that declarer didn't have enough tricks in clubs|pg|| pc|h2|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|dT|pc|d2|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|d7|pc|dA|pg|| pc|c7|pc|s5|nt|cumino: Helgemo now in the same problem after K@C |pg|| pc|d8|nt|cumino: Thinking|pg|| pc|h3|pg|| pc|c3|pc|s7|pc|d9|pc|h8|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s9|pc|s2|nt|kit: North worried that East has queen of hearts instead of king|pg|| nt|cumino: Spade him too. |pg|| nt|kit: In which case the hand isn't cold|pg|| pc|dJ|pg|| nt|kit: He is afraid that if he pitches a diamond and that is the case, he will be end-played -- so he might pitch a heart|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|h5|pc|h9|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h7|pc|hA|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|hT|pc|dQ|pc|d6|pc|hQ|pg|| pg|| qx|o21|st||md|3SKQJ3H742DKT74CAQ,SA952HK6DQJ5CT964,S74HQJ93D63CKJ852,ST86HAT85DA982C73|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c4|pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|cA|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c6|pc|c5|pc|c7|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hK|pc|h3|pc|h5|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|dK|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|s6|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h6|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d4|pc|d5|pc|d6|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s7|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|h9|pc|d8|pc|d7|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c21|st||md|3SKQJ3H742DKT74CAQ,SA952HK6DQJ5CT964,S74HQJ93D63CKJ852,ST86HAT85DA982C73|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|ehsana: part game squabble...... misfits all over ....Club is the only working suit|pg|| nt|kit: North can visualize a possible game, but on balance passing seems to me to be percentage.|pg|| nt|cumino: 2@C for protecting 4@H of partner or pass?|pg|| mb|2D|mb|p|nt|jbennet: looks like a normal 1NT (unless north all of a sudden employs stayman and then retreats to 3 cl)|pg|| mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2S|nt|kit: This must be something special|pg|| mb|p|nt|fabsayc: he has no way of even trying to duplicate results because fantoni system so different|pg|| mb|2N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kit: He shouldn't try to duplicate -- just play best bridge, regardless of match score|pg|| nt|jbennet: i think 2 d followed by 2 sp was a balanced invite with 4 hearts.|pg|| nt|warrens: I believe this is a balance game try and promises 4 @H's. Can anyone confirm|pg|| nt|warrens: balanced*|pg|| nt|kit: So this gets them dangerously high, but it looks like there will be 8 tricks|pg|| nt|warrens: That's been confirmed|pg|| nt|cumino: They could beat |pg|| nt|ehsana: Danger zone but manageable|pg|| nt|kit: I think it takes an impossible heart lead to create problems -- knocking entry off dummy prematurely|pg|| nt|fabsayc: diamond queen lead|pg|| pc|c4|nt|kit: Even on diamond lead, I think declarer would be okay|pg|| nt|warrens: right, K and a @H ducked would be perfect :)|pg|| nt|kit: So declarer will unblock clubs, get to work on hearts, and defense can't get more than 5 tricks I don't think.|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|cA|pg|| nt|jbennet: it seems that unleishing the clubs and then play hearts as a normal play. |pg|| nt|warrens: if E wins the @H Ace and plays the @d 9 he might make it tough on declarer|pg|| nt|fabsayc: ok staying with diamonds, east wins first heart and leads diamond 9|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hK|pc|h3|pc|h5|pg|| nt|kit: Might be problems -- South would have to discard on run of clubs|pg|| nt|jbennet: what if west continutes hearts and east ducks|pg|| nt|ehsana: Haet back now|pg|| nt|kit: Queen of diamonds is logical shift|pg|| nt|kit: West has no reason to think declarer doesn't have 3 clubs|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hQ|pc|h8|nt|jbennet: there u go.|pg|| pc|h7|pg|| nt|warrens: nice!|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s6|pc|sK|pc|s2|pg|| nt|kit: kibs are asking why he didn't unblock the clubs. Problem is that on run of clubs, South hand will have discarding problems -- it is complex.|pg|| nt|ehsana: .......I feel unblock Club before haaert play|pg|| nt|cumino: Or he counted too much on the opponents. Helgemo had the same lead and unblcked quickly|pg|| nt|fabsayc: this is worse than complex|pg|| pc|h2|pc|d5|pc|h9|nt|jbennet: the heart play at trick 2 , not cashing both 2nd honors first seems to cost declarer 2 tricks or so.|pg|| pc|hT|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cQ|pc|c6|pc|cK|pg|| nt|warrens: nice play by Fantoni. now his partner won't be put under pressure.|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s8|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d3|pc|d2|nt|cumino: May be not the best opponents to underestimate|pg|| nt|vugraphzbd: very nice defense, on the ranking they're 1 and 2, i think that is not casuality|pg|| pc|d4|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d6|nt|ehsana: Imps go Monacos way|pg|| nt|fabsayc: on earlier sets the defense was less than perfect, how do you manage to save up all your perfect defenses|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d7|pg|| pc|hA|pc|s3|mc|7|pg|| qx|o22|st||md|4SQJT6H64DKCKJT765,SAK8HJ8752DQT86C9,S975HKQT93D32C843,S432HADAJ9754CAQ2|sv|e|mb|1D|mb|2C|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|4C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|5D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s2|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|dK|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|h3|pg|| pc|d4|pc|c7|pc|dQ|pc|d3|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h9|pc|d5|pc|h6|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|c22|st||md|4SQJT6H64DKCKJT765,SAK8HJ8752DQT86C9,S975HKQT93D32C843,S432HADAJ9754CAQ2|sv|e|nt|kit: So Sweden has score 2 IMPs in first 6 boards -- better than other teams have done vs. Monaco in last segment|pg|| mb|1D|an|14+|nt|kit: This deal could put Monaco into the lead if they bid and make 6@D -- but not clear it will make.|pg|| nt|cumino: Good 6@D, unlucky|pg|| nt|warrens: yes, let's see if they can bid it. you'd like to be there.|pg|| mb|2S|an|4+!s5+!c|nt|ehsana: made 12 in open room :)|pg|| mb|3C|nt|kit: Seems like it should go down with diamond finesse off, hearts 5-2, and club hook off -- but we will see.|pg|| nt|kit: The 2@S call may help declarer|pg|| nt|fluff: played @D to Ace|pg|| nt|warrens: 2@S shows 5+@C's + 4+@S's, so 3@C is a cue bid|pg|| mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|3N|nt|kit: seems like normal line is to win spade lead and take diamond finesse|pg|| nt|bt: hmm ser tufft ut nu|pg|| nt|ehsana: 2S bid will let the dmnd finesse look more attractive |pg|| nt|bt: sorry wasnt meant publik|pg|| nt|cumino: 3@S is stop in Spade, being two suiters. 3NT stop in @C a bit discouraging for Claudio. If I am right on the bid|pg|| mb|p|mb|4C|mb|p|nt|fabsayc: will bid it now|pg|| mb|4D|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|5C|nt|ehsana: 6D is falliable|pg|| mb|p|mb|5D|nt|warrens: does 5@C show an odd number of KC's?|pg|| nt|cumino: They will bid 6@D I presume. K@D is more "in" than out with South bid|pg|| mb|p|mb|6D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|fabsayc: 15 minute play hand|pg|| nt|queequeg: Fulvio Fantoni official website, containing also his personal impressions about these Championships: www.fulviofantoni.com|pg|| nt|warrens: this slam could easily swing the match. Monaco has bid the right contract but is likely to lose 12 imps|pg|| nt|jbennet: on the normal spade lead the best odds seems to be to cash heart ace enter d with club ruff and then run a d. (if it loses then there are enough entries to ruff out the 5 th heart. ...|pg|| nt|jbennet: (The only flaw in that plan is that it doesn,t work). |pg|| nt|ehsana: bidding 6D was easy|pg|| nt|kit: how is that better than immediate diamond finesse?|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|jbennet: it isn,t. |pg|| nt|bt: monaco been on the right side of 2 50/50 slams so they deserve not to make this one|pg|| nt|warrens: even if they go down, 16 imps is not that many with 10 boards left|pg|| nt|ehsana: poor sweden dont desrve 6D make|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|s3|pg|| nt|kit: It is possible to play ace of diamonds first, since entries would be better to set up the hearts|pg|| nt|bt: i didnt evaluate the odds on this one, just said they made 2 other 50/50s|pg|| nt|cumino: Or he plays @H 43 + K@D stif or the finesse|pg|| nt|jbennet: spade lead removes a vital entry prematurely. if declare palys d ace and no king shows up, then hearts can no longer be set up.|pg|| nt|kit: In other words, after losing diamond finesse and spade back, I think an entry short to set up hearts|pg|| nt|cumino: KDx is poor|pg|| nt|kit: the play to set up hearts would be heart to ace and low diamond -- playing ace first (with no king dropping) would still leave him an entry short.|pg|| nt|jbennet: so basically the slam all depends on playing the trump suit for no losers. |pg|| nt|warrens: with S known to be 45 or longer, @H's being 43 isn't all that likely. certainly less than usual.|pg|| nt|cumino: To me 1 down|pg|| nt|bt: what about 30 diamonds?|pg|| nt|kit: Yes, it would appear that diamond finesse percentage play, but we shall see.|pg|| nt|ehsana: AT times TOP players defy logic :)|pg|| nt|warrens: I'm told 2@S promised at least 6@C's|pg|| nt|fabsayc: what about inferences about diamond king from the 2@S bid|pg|| nt|kit: I don't see any inference about diamond king -- he would make that bid regardless of his diamond holding with right stuff in black suits.|pg|| nt|ehsana: I alrdy said 2S bid should induce finesse|pg|| nt|cumino: Well I really think that an explanation is 45 but all think is 46 (IMHO)|pg|| nt|warrens: I agree Kit. Also, he might have an @H honor.|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|dK|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sK|pc|s5|pc|s2|pg|| pc|h2|nt|kit: North working out if it is safe to put in the 9|pg|| nt|bt: please low please please|pg|| nt|kit: Should be pretty obvious that it is safe|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hA|pc|h4|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|c5|pc|dQ|pc|d3|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|d9|pc|h6|pg|| nt|cumino: Fulvio i wasting time he knows the 46 (do you thimn 45 in a semifinal with +25 at last segment?) |pg|| nt|warrens: North can afford to split his @H each time, since declarer only has 3 entries to dummy|pg|| nt|kit: Only real hope is club finesse or something unexpected in hearts|pg|| nt|warrens: he's given up already on the @C finesse, since he needs two ruffs in dummy. so now he needs Kx with North|pg|| nt|ehsana: Club Finesse..will makeit minus 2|pg|| nt|warrens: not possible|pg|| nt|kit: Club finesse will no longer help since he would have to burn a trump to get there, so will just concede down 1.|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c9|pc|c3|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cT|pc|d8|pc|c4|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h9|pc|d5|pc|c7|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|dT|pc|c8|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o23|st||md|1SKJ9832HKJDQ75CT5,SQHATDKT9832CK973,S5H98764DJ4CAQ642,SAT764HQ532DA6CJ8|sv|b|mb|1S|mb|2D|mb|d|mb|r|mb|2S|mb|3C|mb|d|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|s9|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pc|h4|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h6|pc|h3|pc|hK|pg|| pc|sK|pc|dT|pc|dJ|pc|s4|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h5|pc|c5|pc|d2|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|dA|pc|d5|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d7|pc|d9|pc|h8|pg|| pc|dK|pc|h9|pc|s6|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|cJ|pc|cT|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c23|st||md|1SKJ9832HKJDQ75CT5,SQHATDKT9832CK973,S5H98764DJ4CAQ642,SAT764HQ532DA6CJ8|sv|b|nt|ehsana: othing worked poor Fantoni tried both solutions|pg|| mb|2D|mb|3D|mb|p|nt|kit: This light overcall will get them to 3NT|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kit: The fate of which is unclear|pg|| nt|warrens: this has some chances|pg|| pc|s9|nt|warrens: Bertheau has almost no good lead|pg|| nt|fabsayc: either king is good lead|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s5|nt|cumino: May be K was not so wrong (not because it worked)|pg|| pc|s4|pg|| nt|kit: That gets declarer up to 8 tricks, and when there is 8 ......|pg|| nt|kit: However, there are problems -- the ace of spades may get isolated.|pg|| nt|kit: But defense will have difficulty getting out of their own way.|pg|| nt|kit: He has to set up diamonds now before ace of hearts entry knocked out|pg|| nt|cumino: Knowin Fulvio I could prepare a coffee easily, then drink, smoke a sigaretet. I shoruldn't lose many tricks :)|pg|| nt|ehsana: logistics poor...but 9 tricks possible|pg|| nt|jbennet: if declarer loses d to south then south sets up spade trick, and there will be time for defence to set up 5 tricks (1+1+1+2)|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|dA|pc|d5|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d7|nt|jbennet: but if now run the d |pg|| nt|fabsayc: agree looks hopeless|pg|| nt|peyret: must duck |pg|| pc|dK|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|dT|nt|kit: why must he duck?|pg|| nt|jbennet: 8 of d noqw and borth can do no harm|pg|| nt|osvaill83: cause now south got the entry|pg|| nt|peyret: when j wins endplay north|pg|| pc|h9|pc|s6|pc|dQ|pg|| nt|peyret: cant make it now|pg|| nt|moshel: K spade now and no entry to te hearts|pg|| nt|fabsayc: can if no spade|pg|| nt|kit: I guess now South can set up spade trick, and that will be 5 tricks for defense|pg|| pc|sK|nt|moshel: great deff|pg|| pc|c3|nt|kit: So correct, he did need to duck the diamond|pg|| pc|c2|pc|sA|pg|| nt|jbennet: spade back now and north have 2 entries left (1 to push a heart through). |pg|| nt|kit: defense has 5 winners -- 2 clubs, 1 in every other suit|pg|| nt|ehsana: I always go with the right person and Kit is right :)|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c5|pc|c7|pc|cQ|pg|| nt|kit: Declarer was unlucky that South had both king and jack of hearts. His line of play could easily have been right if North had the third diamond as North would have been end-played.|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h2|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pg|| pc|d3|pc|c6|pc|h3|pc|s2|pg|| nt|peyret: board no 26 . sweden made 6 @d |pg|| pc|d8|pc|c4|pc|s7|pc|s3|pg|| pc|d9|nt|ehsana: seems party over for declarer :(|pg|| pc|h7|pc|sT|pc|cT|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cA|pc|cJ|pc|s8|pg|| pc|h4|mc|8|pg|| qx|o24|st||md|2SKQT96HDJ4CKT9632,SJ2HKJ72DT7CAQJ84,SA84HAT964DKQ92C5,S753HQ853DA8653C7|sv|o|mb|1C|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dT|pc|dK|pc|d3|pc|d4|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|dJ|pc|h2|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c7|pc|cT|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pc|s6|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|s4|pc|s5|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s9|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h5|pc|sT|pc|h7|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|s8|pc|h8|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hQ|mc|8|pg|| qx|c24|st||md|2SKQT96HDJ4CKT9632,SJ2HKJ72DT7CAQJ84,SA84HAT964DKQ92C5,S753HQ853DA8653C7|sv|o|mb|1N|an|12-14|mb|2H|mb|p|nt|fabsayc: is 2@H hearts and minor|pg|| nt|tokay1975: he comes with his family|pg|| nt|kit: 4@S contract in other room quite reasonable, but ran into an unlucky lie of the cards|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|nt|bt: 4@S is eminently makeable, but maybe thats double dummy|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kit: South was pretty much running from 2@H, but now he will be interested|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dT|nt|bt: the @S8 is huge here|pg|| nt|kit: Double pretty clear -- partner opened 1NT, opponents have only 8 spades, he has both red suits under some control.|pg|| nt|bt: west maybe short in spades|pg|| nt|cumino: May be a bit coming from the previous, this double |pg|| nt|fabsayc: has to have 2|pg|| pc|d2|nt|kit: West did open 1NT|pg|| nt|bt: yea 1nt in their style|pg|| nt|bt: anyway declarer can get 5@S 1@H 3@D and a club ruff with the 8|pg|| nt|kit: Declarer pretty much knows the entire distribution after this opening lead|pg|| nt|kit: But I don't think that will help him.|pg|| nt|bt: well going up ace he should make|pg|| nt|bt: ducking makes it interesting|pg|| nt|kit: East also knows the distribution|pg|| nt|ehsana: Dmnd duck must|pg|| nt|kit: why does going up ace let it make (although surely he won't go up ace)|pg|| nt|bt: declarer needs @SJ doubleton doesnt he?|pg|| nt|kit: I still don't see where 10 tricks come from|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d4|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dJ|pc|d7|nt|bt: declarer can give up a club, ruff a club with the @S8, pull 2 trumps ending in dummy, then 4 red tricks|pg|| nt|fabsayc: 6 spades,3 diamonds and a heart|pg|| nt|kit: Well, now can make by drawing 2 rounds of trumps and playing king of clubs|pg|| nt|ehsana: cards favourale fro that line of play|pg|| nt|jbennet: isnt west huge favourite to have 22 in spades diamonds from declarers point of view?|pg|| nt|kit: yes, he is|pg|| nt|kit: East knew that for sure -- I think he should have ducked diamond|pg|| nt|bt: yea 2425 and then Jx of spades, like someone said|pg|| nt|bt: 2524 i guess also, then no @SJ necessary|pg|| nt|bt: so win in dummy and play a club|pg|| pc|dK|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c7|nt|jillan: overtake the @D and lead @C? But then need to ruff the @C with the @S8|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cJ|pg|| nt|jillan: seems likely at the table|pg|| nt|bt: it is easy for us seeing all the cards|pg|| nt|bt: never forget that|pg|| nt|fabsayc: is there another layout that works, i cant see one|pg|| nt|mikael_w: It is not enough to ruff with the @s 8|pg|| nt|mikael_w: there are still some things you must do right|pg|| pc|s2|nt|mikael_w: he must reach the tricks to|pg|| nt|jbennet: DD 10 easy tricks but it is far from obvious. what if west had returned a small club?? declarers would be very concerned about spade jack.|pg|| pc|s4|nt|jillan: was not easy for West, but this should be helpful for declarer|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sT|pg|| nt|kit: if small club return, can just discard|pg|| nt|fabsayc: disagree, this gives him losing line|pg|| nt|fabsayc: only 8 tricks certain on cross ruff|pg|| nt|fabsayc: 9|pg|| nt|ehsana: think eclarer has worked out well teh distribution|pg|| nt|bt: at the other table west lead @D T and east ducked|pg|| nt|mikael_w: if he ruffs a @s now and take the @s A he will make it as everybody can see. but what IF W has 3 @s:s|pg|| nt|phil: then how can he make anyway? |pg|| nt|fabsayc: exactly now has losing lines|pg|| nt|mikael_w: so there is still options how to play as I see it|pg|| nt|kit: point is that East wouldn't have much of a double with only a doubleton spade -- if declarer draws that inference.|pg|| nt|jillan: now a @S to the ace and run @D|pg|| nt|fabsayc: club split he can make|pg|| nt|cumino: Now I don't see what he is thinking. Or makes or 1 down, playing spades|pg|| nt|kit: declarer knows clubs aren't splitting|pg|| nt|psyck: We have a record number of kibitzers at a table here|pg|| nt|psyck: earlier was short of 7000|pg|| nt|cumino: spade ace normal|pg|| nt|petka: spade to ace is superior in case east has Jx spades left. He can cash his red tricks and at worst -1|pg|| nt|jbennet: if now souths concludes 22 spade-daimaond with west then: Cash high spade, ruff club high and cash 3 red tricks for 590|pg|| nt|petka: ruffing first loses to spade jack in E hand|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cA|nt|kit: he may be on losing line now|pg|| pc|s8|nt|petka: *whew*|pg|| pc|d3|pg|| nt|bt: now it is automatic :)|pg|| nt|jillan: still not home|pg|| nt|kit: Although even if he plays a diamond here he is okay|pg|| nt|mikael_w: Well, W can still have J5 of @s right ?|pg|| nt|jillan: i do not count the chickens until they are all in|pg|| nt|kit: So really can't go wrong unless he plays ace of hearts, heart ruff, club ruff|pg|| nt|bt: but then there is no make is there|pg|| nt|kit: oh right -- East gets to pitch diamonds -- so must play ace of spades|pg|| nt|petka: maybe Peter knows it all and is just trying for overtricks?|pg|| nt|kit: seems like he should get it right though -- any other line looks like a concession.|pg|| nt|petka: :)|pg|| nt|mikael_w: But the @h can be 5-3 and 3 @s from start with W|pg|| nt|andersk: Many specs ask regarding time...those of you that has been here all the time....is both pair slow or is it case for a director desision?|pg|| nt|jillan: only one word : Fantoni|pg|| nt|fabsayc: both pairs slower than slow|pg|| nt|phil: the other table played very quickly|pg|| nt|kit: hard to believe -- they are finished in other room, and have half the boards left here. Must have been easier hands there.|pg|| nt|jbennet: east is favourite to hold 3 spades, since it would a huge gamble to x 4 sp with only doubleton spade and only an ace. |pg|| nt|vugraphzbd: in the other room also start 15minutes later...|pg|| nt|mikael_w: well, anyway I think he will end up playing the right way now and play @s to A|pg|| nt|jillan: and now Peter is taking his time :)|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|c2|nt|ehsana: suspense too muchUI am leaving :)|pg|| pc|h2|pg|| nt|jillan: noooo|pg|| nt|kit: well, now we will see|pg|| nt|jillan: S!A|pg|| nt|fabsayc: good point johann|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s6|pc|sJ|pg|| nt|jillan: phew|pg|| nt|jaapfr: wd|pg|| nt|mikael_w: YES !!! WD|pg|| nt|ehsana: yessssssss|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d5|pc|c3|nt|jbennet: wd south.|pg|| pc|h7|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d8|pc|c6|nt|peyret: made it |pg|| pc|c4|pg|| nt|bt: i hear montserrat caballe in the background, she is singing|pg|| mc|10|nt|phil: they have a big board on 26 too|pg|| nt|jillan: I was told gthat there are too many Swedish supporters here. But not too manu|pg|| nt|andersk: 33 IMPs...this will be very diffecoult for Monaco to gain|pg|| nt|jillan: many Monegaskian play bridge. Right? :)|pg|| pg|| qx|o25|st||md|3SAKJ98H65D97CKT92,ST752HKQT92DT5CQ4,SQ43HAJ83DKJ43CJ5,S6H74DAQ862CA8763|sv|e|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|h5|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c8|pc|cK|pc|c4|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hQ|pc|h3|pc|h7|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d7|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d9|pc|d5|pc|d3|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|cQ|pc|c5|pg|| pc|d6|pc|s8|pc|sT|pc|d4|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c25|st||md|3SAKJ98H65D97CKT92,ST752HKQT92DT5CQ4,SQ43HAJ83DKJ43CJ5,S6H74DAQ862CA8763|sv|e|mb|1C|mb|1D|nt|mikael_w: well, the swedish team has NOT give away many imp:s for free so far in the quarter and so far in this match. so I have a hard time thinking they will loose this now|pg|| mb|1H|an|4+!s|mb|d|an|!h|mb|1S|nt|uni_dennis: 1@c any 12-14 BAL|pg|| nt|thorvald: Just recorded more than 7.500 viewers - 400 left after seeing 4@SX made|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: 1@h = 4+@s|pg|| mb|2C|nt|cumino: Yes a solid team and not unlucky|pg|| nt|bt: i think cullin might want to get to 3nt now|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h4|nt|fabsayc: playing sound, no swinging, which is more than we can say for some other unnamed teams|pg|| nt|kit: yes, but can't do so when partner doesn't give you a chance|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hK|nt|phil: seems the luck has evened out, Fantoni's 6@d might have come home, but Nunes 5@h could have failed when 5@d was making|pg|| pc|hA|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c8|nt|kit: North definitely had to show the 3-card spade support first|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: low @h lead = even number without honor|pg|| nt|bt: south might have tried doubling 2@C|pg|| nt|kit: If South though that 3NT might be better, South could have taken a slower route.|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: or odd with honor|pg|| nt|mikael_w: But I still wants to remind you all about Monaco:s last 16 boards in round of 16, and quarterF, and we are talking about (maybe) the best team in the world so nothing is done yet|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c4|pg|| nt|bt: of course michael, no one is saying it is over|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: though CC says in partner's suit Fantunes leads should be high = even, low = odd number|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hQ|pc|h3|pc|h7|pg|| nt|kit: Logical club guess. He needs queen of diamonds onside to have a chance, which makes it likely that East has ace of clubs.|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|d7|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d9|pc|d5|pc|d3|pg|| nt|mikael_w: I know I know :) I have about 124536 specs that are telling me its clear now :) But lets just wait a moment even if I agree it looks good for sweden|pg|| nt|andersk: I cant see how Monaco can gain 33 IMP on the last 7 boards|pg|| nt|petka: you never know Anders|pg|| nt|petka: A redouble here and there and we're on our way|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|cQ|pc|c5|pg|| nt|kit: results at other table aren't too exciting on last 7 boards, so something big would have to happen here.|pg|| pc|d6|nt|bt: makeable now, he knows east is 1255|pg|| nt|bt: one down sorry|pg|| pc|sA|pc|h2|pc|d4|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s2|nt|jillan: Well Fantoni - Nunes are marvelous players and have performed miracles before. But t looks hard now|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s6|pg|| nt|fabsayc: bidding only showed 54|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s5|pc|s4|pc|d2|pg|| pc|c9|nt|mikael_w: Sweden has a really nice result left on next board to. But its there are 6 more boards then that left, just take it easy now and hold your thumbs for the team you want to win :)|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h8|pc|c3|pg|| pc|cT|pc|s7|pc|sQ|pc|c6|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|c7|pc|s9|pc|hT|pg|| nt|fabsayc: still well done|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sT|pc|dK|pc|d8|pg|| nt|bt: one down, i wont say i told you so|pg|| pg|| qx|o26|st||md|4SHDC,SHDC,SHDC,SHDC|sv|b|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4N|mb|p|mb|6D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d6|pc|d2|pc|d9|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|s2|pc|dT|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|c2|pc|c5|pg|| mc|13|pg|| qx|c26|st||md|4SHDC,SHDC,SHDC,SHDC|sv|b|mb|1D|nt|bt: a club lead in 6@D would be sweet|pg|| nt|kit: Good slam. It happens to go down on a club lead, but that seems pretty unlikely choice.|pg|| mb|p|nt|andersk: This is the key board...If Monaco cant make slam, they are out, thats certain :)|pg|| mb|3S|nt|uni_dennis: 3@s = 5/5 @c + @h |pg|| mb|p|nt|mikael_w: But I must say, I am extreamly optimistic by nature, but if someone told me before this tourney that Sweden (we) will beat USA in quarter and Monaco in Semi !!! I would have doubt ...|pg|| nt|mikael_w: it for a sec at least :)|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: GF, so 10+ in their system|pg|| nt|phil: its an interesting hand - 6@d fails on the club, but 6N survives because clubs are 6-1 on the same lead|pg|| nt|bt: you didnt bet on that mikael?|pg|| nt|mikael_w: 6 @d is down with @c lead|pg|| nt|mikael_w: But @c-lead is as I see it a verry BAD lead in the long run soo...|pg|| nt|jaapfr: the Swedish team wins this with some 99% sure but if you fancy the thriller here W playing 7nt without a @S lead one can start to believe in the 1%:)|pg|| nt|kit: would need no club lead also|pg|| nt|mikael_w: Lasse, I might had bet on it if I know where the bookey was :)|pg|| nt|jaapfr: treu no black leead:)|pg|| nt|tez: Poland 252 Ireland 185 playing last bord|pg|| mb|4D|nt|bt: i bet on poland in that match|pg|| nt|tez: board|pg|| nt|kit: so that 1% is a bit lower|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: 1@D opening forcing in Fantunes system. with strong hand they open at 1-level (Forcing)|pg|| mb|p|mb|4H|nt|uni_dennis: so Fantoni did not have a way to show a strong hand with his opening bid already|pg|| nt|fabsayc: club lead on this auction is more reasonable than in open room|pg|| mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|5C|nt|bt: this is the kind of auctions you wish upon your opponents|pg|| nt|kit: Still seems strange to lead a singleton when you have an ace -- what can it accomplish normally?|pg|| nt|mikael_w: dosent really matter what auktion it is I think ? If opps bidding slam by their self and its a good pair and you hold an A, WHY lead a singleton and risk to help dec soulve the ...|pg|| nt|mikael_w: hole @c-suit ?|pg|| nt|andersk: I totally agree with you, Kit..|pg|| nt|phil: you'd have to need a good reason that it would disrupt communications, although you should have some idea a trump lead will work because of an expected layout too|pg|| nt|kit: of course if North doubles 5@C, then will get club lead|pg|| mb|p|mb|6D|mb|p|nt|bt: hungary defeatted sweden in seniors with 17, getting 16 here after defeating 6@D and making it in the other room|pg|| mb|7H|mb|p|nt|andersk: wow|pg|| nt|cicus: N had the opportunity to butt in a 2@C overcall|pg|| nt|mikael_w: but offcurse a nice def would be @c-lead and @c ruff and then low @s from A to partners K and another @c ruff. But on the bidding maybe our partner dosent have @c-A and @s-K|pg|| nt|kit: Wow!|pg|| nt|andersk: wow|pg|| nt|andersk: wow|pg|| nt|mikael_w: OMG|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: well East needs a bid to show @h fit over 3@S|pg|| nt|kit: Not the time to lead a trump vs. a grand slam|pg|| nt|bt: the way to get back in the match|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: maybe 4@d should be @h fit|pg|| nt|kit: Any other lead beats it I believe.|pg|| nt|mikael_w: well, there IS 13 tricks|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|jaapfr: sorry no thriller here only again swedish win |pg|| nt|mikael_w: 7 @h will be home with wrong lead|pg|| nt|fabsayc: the 1% is quivering|pg|| nt|andersk: makes with trumph lead|pg|| nt|phil: I guesson a trump lead this skates home but fails on any other lead|pg|| nt|mikael_w: need @h or @c lead to make|pg|| nt|jaapfr: 99% sure no @H lead:)?|pg|| nt|mikael_w: nonono no @c lead|pg|| nt|kit: club lead kills entry, as does diamond lead|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s3|pg|| nt|mikael_w: LOL, And I always say " vs grand, ALWAYS lead trumph if you have any" :)|pg|| nt|psyck: Now we can comfortably congratulate Sweden|pg|| nt|bt: now the fat lady is singing very close from here|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|dT|nt|kit: Well, something big happened -- but not for Monaco|pg|| pc|dA|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|h3|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h5|pc|h8|pc|c5|pg|| nt|jaapfr: with 220-169 the Swedes can open some champagne|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c3|pc|cA|mc|12|pg|| qx|o27|st||md|1SHDC,SHDC,SHDC,SHDC|sv|o|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s4|pc|s8|pc|s5|pc|s2|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|d7|pc|d3|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|h3|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h4|pc|h5|pc|h7|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|c6|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dT|pc|dJ|pc|d9|pg|| pc|dK|pc|c5|pc|d6|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|d5|pc|h8|pc|d8|pc|s7|pg|| pc|s3|pc|c8|pc|sA|pc|s9|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sT|pc|s6|mc|8|pg|| qx|c27|st||md|1SHDC,SHDC,SHDC,SHDC|sv|o|nt|phil: maybe you can make it on a club lead - with cards up|pg|| nt|mikael_w: well, even I ha now open the champagne :) but I dont dare to start drinking yet ;)|pg|| nt|bt: guess fantoni nunes was wrong to sit east-west|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|nt|andersk: Mikael...you have to wait 3 more days :)|pg|| mb|p|pc|s4|nt|joest: and are slow all the time|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s5|pc|s2|pg|| nt|kit: nice 8 of spades play -- you never know|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dT|pc|dJ|pc|d3|pg|| nt|kit: and a key dummy entry for the diamond play|pg|| nt|mikael_w: well, @@ Anders K I think even a silver after this drawings will call for som bubble :) the only question will be how expensive champagne now, and THAT we will know first in 3 days ...|pg|| nt|mikael_w: :)|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c7|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d9|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|andersk: I call BG...He probably have some recomandations:)|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c5|pc|c3|pg|| nt|cumino: May be 4@D was dubious but 6@D jump on 5@C, I think not. Claudio 7@H was a bit strange |pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o28|st||md|2SHDC,SHDC,SHDC,SHDC|sv|n|mb|1S|mb|2S|mb|d|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hQ|pc|h9|pc|hA|pc|h5|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h6|pc|h3|pc|s4|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hK|pc|s2|pc|c2|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|s6|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d2|pc|dK|pc|d3|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d4|pc|d8|pc|c3|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sK|pc|sT|pc|c7|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c28|st||md|2SHDC,SHDC,SHDC,SHDC|sv|n|nt|fabsayc: usa (canada) into finals in seniors|pg|| mb|1S|mb|2S|nt|bt: ah, us seniors are Monaco 2? :)|pg|| mb|p|nt|kit: this could be a big number for E-W if they start doubling|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: 2@s = @h + @c|pg|| nt|mikael_w: thanks to all congratts. I have now got 1523 of them, so my fingers will bleed if I shod thank each and everyone of you, so THANKS all|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: yes, always @cs|pg|| nt|jillan: I agree with that :) can't even follow what you all are saying|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: S can bid 2NT Lebensohl now|pg|| nt|kit: I'm surprised Fantoni didn't double 2@S, although maybe that means spade support.|pg|| nt|phil: I think he's planning on a making a penalty double in something after the strong 1@s opening|pg|| nt|fabsayc: is this your average swedish micaels|pg|| nt|mikael_w: well, now its 2736 congratts, but OK THEN let them come !!! :)|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: 1@s opening is 14+ with 5+@s or 11-13 with 5+@s - 4@h|pg|| nt|kit: Same 2@S call in other room and East did double, but West never gave his partner a chance.|pg|| nt|phil: I'm happy for Sweden, but commentators should make an attempt to 'curb their enthusiasm'....:)|pg|| nt|bt: east has a hefty penalty double opposite that, nice lie for declarer though|pg|| mb|2N|mb|3D|nt|uni_dennis: 2NT = Lebensohl |pg|| nt|jaapfr: i would think with my simple mind S 3@D and N to correct to 3@H irrelevant wwhat W X or not|pg|| nt|psyck: 2@s is Ghestem style, @s+@c|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|nt|mikael_w: I am glad I had my computer on service today :) Otherwise my computer would not make this I think. I must have some kind of record in messages in 5 min I think. But today we are ...|pg|| nt|mikael_w: happy for anything|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hQ|nt|psyck: @h+@c i meant. 2N was leb to signoff|pg|| nt|bt: 3@H X wasnt awful, 5@H and 3@C maybe|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: Russia won in 2004|pg|| nt|bt: i have to leave, fingers crossed for a swedish victory today, bye all|pg|| nt|mikael_w: THIS was the board I was afraid of before when I diddnt wanted to selebrate to early. easy to have a BIG payouy on N/S on this board|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: in the Women's|pg|| nt|mikael_w: Payout|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: women's final will be Russia-England|pg|| nt|phil: I don't think 3@h x'd was going for a lot|pg|| nt|kit: true -- club spots helpful|pg|| nt|phil: a forcing defense might get it 2, West's @h9 is pesky|pg|| nt|jaapfr: even if the score was 220-220 now would EW not get some time penalties?|pg|| nt|phil: been told Balicki made 8 tricks in hearts in the other match|pg|| nt|kit: also, which suit will they play?|pg|| nt|phil: right|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hJ|pc|h5|pg|| nt|cumino: Cullin had bo reason to bid 3@H vulnerable normally. After 7@H 1 down just cashed......|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c2|pc|cQ|nt|phil: I think many would just overcall 2@h|pg|| pc|cA|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: I disagree strongly with 2@h|pg|| nt|phil: but its a good idea to show partner 10 cards instead of 5/6|pg|| nt|jaapfr: i hope i am objective but i quess Fantoni himself did use some 50% of all thinking time|pg|| nt|psyck: especially when they can show specific two suiters unlike michaels|pg|| nt|kit: Whatever the right bid on North hand is, I don't think state of match is at all relevant. You still have to play bridge.|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|s6|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|uni_dennis: if 2@s shows @h+@c i always bid it with this hand, bad luck partner has no fit at all, but i showed both if we have some fit|pg|| pc|h2|pc|s8|nt|mikael_w: I dont think its a matter of right or wrong what to bid on N hand, its more a matter of style to play|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: and that could mean the right decision if bidding goes high quickly|pg|| pc|sK|pg|| nt|phil: you cannot turn a deaf ear to the colors either|pg|| nt|kit: That is true -- vulnerable games still pay that big bonus.|pg|| nt|cumino: If 2NT is weak, there is no reason to bid 3@H on 3@D, no one. |pg|| nt|mikael_w: in this vuln me and my partner normaly has better cards to bid an overbid. But I have seen partners that has alot worse cards and bid overbids and always lands on their feets ...|pg|| nt|mikael_w: anyway soo...|pg|| nt|cumino: You know that tha East pass could with your suiters|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d5|pc|d2|pc|d9|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o29|st||md|3SHDC,SHDC,SHDC,SHDC|sv|b|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cJ|pc|c5|pc|c4|pc|cA|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d2|pc|d5|pc|d3|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|s7|pc|d7|pc|d4|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|s3|pc|d9|pc|dA|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h8|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c6|pc|c9|pc|c2|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c29|st||md|3SHDC,SHDC,SHDC,SHDC|sv|b|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|uni_dennis: 1@c natural or any 12-14 or 17+-19 BAL|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: 1@h =4+@s|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|uni_dennis: 1NT = 17+-19BAL|pg|| pc|cJ|nt|uni_dennis: with 12-14 BAL they just accept transfer with 1@s|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c4|pc|cA|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d2|pc|d5|pc|d3|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: here @cJ can be KJT i suppose|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|h7|pc|d7|pc|dA|pg|| pc|h5|nt|jaapfr: y poland-ireland after 5 rounds allready 2-17-137 last boards no idea|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg|| nt|kit: It is worth noting that Monaco lost 47 IMPs in a 5-board run. This just shows it can happen to anybody at any time, which is why desperate shooting is always questionable.|pg|| nt|phil: if West clears clubs, North will need to guess the layout, but the defense is going the same as the other room|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: scores: http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Lille.12/microSite/RunningScores/ASP/knockoutphaseconditstatMultievColours.asp?qtournid=936&qtournid2=937&qtournid3=938&qphase=SF|pg|| nt|jaapfr: 252-185 updated tx dennis|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|c2|pg|| pc|c9|nt|jaapfr: poland-ireland congratulations for strong Poland|pg|| pc|s6|pc|c3|pc|c6|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o30|st||md|4SHDC,SHDC,SHDC,SHDC|sv|o|mb|1S|mb|2D|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d8|pc|dK|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|h3|pc|h2|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hJ|pc|hK|pc|h5|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h6|pc|s6|pc|hQ|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|c30|st||md|4SHDC,SHDC,SHDC,SHDC|sv|o|nt|phil: but a big congratulations to Ireland too that went very deep in a very tough field|pg|| mb|1S|nt|ahollan1: just announced tomorrow vugraph 3 Championship matches + Playoff in Open Ireland v Monaco|pg|| mb|2D|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dA|nt|ahollan1: WBF decides that -- not BBO|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d8|pc|dK|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|h3|pc|h2|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hJ|pc|hK|pc|h6|pg|| pc|h7|mc|9|pg|| qx|o31|st||md|1SHDC,SHDC,SHDC,SHDC|sv|n|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|s9|pc|sK|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h6|pc|h2|pc|h5|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h7|pc|hQ|pc|h4|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d2|pc|dJ|pc|d9|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c31|st||md|1SHDC,SHDC,SHDC,SHDC|sv|n|nt|ahollan1: [bookmark this] http://bridgebase.com/vugraph/schedule.php?commentatoronly=1&order_by=event shows viewer's local timezone|pg|| mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|nt|psyck: Finals is 8 segments over 3 day; unlike the 6 segments over 2 days until now|pg|| mb|p|nt|uni_dennis: final in open only 8 sessions|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: in women's and seniors|pg|| nt|jillan: PLayers will be sooo exhausted|pg|| nt|mikael_w: I get many questions about where Fredin/Fallenius has been. They have taken this tourney of for a well deserved holliday. they will be back for some entertainment in future ...|pg|| nt|mikael_w: tournaments|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: 6 sessions|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s6|nt|ahollan1: oops i gave link that is used for commentators http://bridgebase.com/vugraph/schedule.php|pg|| pc|sA|pc|sK|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s8|pc|s3|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|hT|pc|hA|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o32|st||md|2SHDC,SHDC,SHDC,SHDC|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|1N|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|cT|pc|c5|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|c3|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c7|pc|c6|pc|h5|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d7|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h3|pc|h4|pc|hT|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dT|pc|dK|pc|d4|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|sJ|pc|s8|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sQ|pc|h9|pc|sT|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c32|st||md|2SHDC,SHDC,SHDC,SHDC|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sJ|pc|s3|pc|s5|pc|sQ|pg|| nt|jaapfr: with 50 imps difference and the last board we are talking about 100 % sure who wins:)|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|c5|pg|| pc|cK|nt|andersk: Congrats to Sweeden....We look forward to the final, starting tomorrow:)|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c6|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c7|pc|cT|pc|d3|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d6|pc|dA|pc|d2|pg|| mc|7|nt|phil: the way the segment started, I thought it was going to be another Monaco blitz|pg|| nt|cumino: Congrats to Sweden!|pg|| nt|authau: bravo :)|pg|| nt|phil: congratulations to Swe, GL tomorrow|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: so Poland - Sweden tomorrow|pg|| pg||