vg|BBO1-2nd Mind Sports Games,O-RR10,I,17,32,SWITZERLAND,0,NETHERLANDS,0| rs|4HS+1,4HS=,3NS=,3NS+1,4SS-1,4SSx-1,3HN+1,4HN=,3NE+1,3NE=,4HNx-5,6DE-3,3SS+2,3SS+1,3NS+2,4HN+1,6SN+1,6SN+1,3NN=,3NN=,1NN-2,1NN-3,4HW-1,1NWx+3,4SE-1,4SE-1,4HW+1,2HW+1,6SEx-6,6HN=,3HN+1,3HS=| pn|PIEDRA,DE WIJS,WILDAVSKY,MULLER,BRINK,NIKOLENKOV,DRIJVER,MAGNUSSON|pg|| qx|o17|st||md|3ST7HAKJ72DKJ96CA7,SK65HQ9DQ873CQJ95,SQJ92HT64DAT4CKT8,SA843H853D52C6432|sv|o|nt|ahollan1: maximum win is 25 but loser of blitz can earn between 0 and 5 VP|pg|| nt|Vugraphzay: Morning all :)|pg|| nt|ahollan1: so we have Tarzan Precision EW |pg|| nt|ahollan1: and Bas as our operator|pg|| nt|ahollan1: Adam Wildavsky represented USA in the Bermuda Bowl a few years ago, but has been in Switzerland for a while -- long enough to establish residency|pg|| nt|ahollan1: NS strong NT EW weak NT w/ strong 1@C|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: but tarzan opens far fewer hands than most big clubbers|pg|| mb|2C|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cQ|nt|ahollan1: 2@C sure looks like Drury|pg|| nt|kit: hi everybody|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c2|pc|cA|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h9|pc|h4|pc|h5|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hQ|nt|ahollan1: hi Kit|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h8|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|ahollan1: Kit and Adam Wildavsky were teammates in that Bermuda Bowl i mentioned|pg|| pc|s5|pc|hT|pc|h3|pg|| nt|ahollan1: EW carding upside-down count & attitude odd/even discard|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c5|pc|cT|pc|c3|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|s7|pc|c9|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d6|pc|d3|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d5|pc|d9|pc|dQ|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c17|st||md|3ST7HAKJ72DKJ96CA7,SK65HQ9DQ873CQJ95,SQJ92HT64DAT4CKT8,SA843H853D52C6432|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cQ|pc|c8|pc|c2|pc|cA|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h9|pc|h4|pc|h3|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c5|pc|cT|pc|c3|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|s7|pc|c9|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h5|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|sT|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h2|pc|cJ|pc|hT|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d6|pc|d7|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d5|pc|d9|pc|dQ|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o18|st||md|4SJ9543HAKTDQ4CT72,SKT7HJ4DAT9852CQ9,SQ62H93DK6CAKJ643,SA8HQ87652DJ73C85|sv|n|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|3C|nt|ahollan1: 1st seat favorable [not vul vs vul] often 5-card suit for 2@H/@S openers|pg|| mb|p|nt|kit: I think South should forget about the spades and bid 3NT with this solid heart stopper|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d2|nt|kit: The diamond lead will make South nervous, but all is well|pg|| nt|ahollan1: @D2 lead = attitude|pg|| nt|ahollan1: @HJ lead in other room |pg|| pc|dK|pc|d7|pc|d4|pg|| nt|kit: He will probably cash one high club, cross to the heart, and lead a club planning on finessing -- but as it turns out he can't go wrong.|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c2|pc|c9|pg|| nt|ahollan1: when not able to beat dummy's card should 3rd hand signal attitude or count?|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|h4|pg|| nt|kit: should signal whatever the partnership agreement is|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|c8|pg|| nt|ahollan1: :)|pg|| mc|9|nt|kit: We do count in my partnerships|pg|| pg|| qx|c18|st||md|4SJ9543HAKTDQ4CT72,SKT7HJ4DAT9852CQ9,SQ62H93DK6CAKJ643,SA8HQ87652DJ73C85|sv|n|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hJ|pc|h3|pc|h7|pc|hA|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c9|pc|cA|pc|c5|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|dA|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s2|pc|s8|pc|s5|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|s3|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o19|st||md|1SK9653H6DT7CQJ642,S7HAQT7543DQ652CT,SQJ842HK98DA8CA98,SATHJ2DKJ943CK753|sv|e|nt|ahollan1: in the very old days Foster Echo was used 3rd hand played 2nd highest card|pg|| nt|ahollan1: playing udca @D7 looked like count too|pg|| mb|p|mb|3H|nt|kit: a convention almost guaranteed to not give partner any valuable information.|pg|| nt|ahollan1: notice Brink opened the south hand|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cT|nt|kit: If declarer goes up ace of clubs and leads a spade, there won't be a diamond loser|pg|| nt|ahollan1: NS seem to be playing Acol 2@H/@S openers so Piedra was at least 13 points short|pg|| nt|kit: unless East wins and finds a diamond shift -- far from obvious.|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c4|pg|| nt|ahollan1: Peter calling for a 4@H raise from Muller|pg|| nt|kit: Now spotlight will be on East|pg|| pc|s2|nt|kit: He knows his partner has only a singleton spade, so I think he should get it right.|pg|| nt|ahollan1: Bas -- did Wildavsky really PASS over 3@H?|pg|| nt|kit: Not so clear to me he should bid over 3@H -- partner is a passed hand, and can still balance.|pg|| nt|Vugraphzay: I am not at the table myself but this is how the table operator entered it|pg|| nt|ahollan1: sorry Bas -- i forgot about that|pg|| nt|Vugraphzay: No problemo|pg|| nt|pelu: If N X then S would bid 4@s|pg|| nt|kit: I'm surprised he is having this much of a problem finding the defense. There just is no other way to beat the hand.|pg|| nt|kit: He can see that dummy's losing diamond will be going on the long club, even if declarer is 5-1-3-4.|pg|| nt|ahollan1: Roland always has Muller in top 3 of his list of slowest players|pg|| nt|ahollan1: until this hand -- i thought he was getting better in recent months :)|pg|| nt|kit: And he knows his partner has only a singleton spade. So what choice does he have?|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s7|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dT|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pg|| nt|kit: Well, he got it finally.|pg|| nt|ahollan1: a lot of energy to lose only 2 imps|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sT|pc|sK|pc|h3|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hA|pc|h8|pc|h2|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d8|pc|dK|pc|d7|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c19|st||md|1SK9653H6DT7CQJ642,S7HAQT7543DQ652CT,SQJ842HK98DA8CA98,SATHJ2DKJ943CK753|sv|e|mb|2S|mb|3H|mb|4S|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cT|pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|c2|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s7|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d7|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sT|pc|sK|pc|h5|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hA|pc|h8|pc|h2|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d8|pc|dK|pc|dT|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|h3|pc|c8|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o20|st||md|2SAKT9HA98652D4CQ7,SJ752HJ3DAK87CK52,S63HKQ74DJT32C643,SQ84HTDQ965CAJT98|sv|b|nt|ahollan1: 1N opener is good 12-15 i bet deWijs PASS [unlike all other big clubbers]|pg|| mb|1N!|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: this is why i'm not a betting man|pg|| mb|2C!|nt|ahollan1: 2@C = @H & @S|pg|| mb|p|mb|2H|mb|d|nt|ahollan1: DBL = takeout|pg|| mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 3@H sounds obstructive rather than constructive|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|hK|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c20|st||md|2SAKT9HA98652D4CQ7,SJ752HJ3DAK87CK52,S63HKQ74DJT32C643,SQ84HTDQ965CAJT98|sv|b|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|2N|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d6|pc|d4|pc|dK|pc|d3|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|c7|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|c4|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o21|st||md|3SJT9875H98D6C9764,S64HAJ2DKT974CQ85,SA3HKQ73DJ853CJ32,SKQ2HT654DAQ2CAKT|sv|n|nt|ahollan1: Brink had other options over 2N -- seems to me Piedra should have tried RDBL|pg|| nt|kit: Seems to me South should just bid 4@H. He needs almost nothing to make game. You just don't risk lose 10 like that.|pg|| mb|p|mb|1C!|nt|ahollan1: must confess -- i didn't think about jump to game|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 1@C=any 16+ hcp|pg|| mb|1S|mb|2S!|nt|ahollan1: 2@S = FG, 9+ HCP, not 12+ w/stop|pg|| mb|d|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sT|pc|s4|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|s5|pc|s6|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d4|pc|d3|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|ahollan1: Rusinow lead vs NT [2nd of touching honors]|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c21|st||md|3SJT9875H98D6C9764,S64HAJ2DKT974CQ85,SA3HKQ73DJ853CJ32,SKQ2HT654DAQ2CAKT|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1S|mb|2H|an|!d|mb|d|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h9|pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h5|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|d6|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|sJ|pc|d7|pc|d5|pg|| pc|d2|pc|sT|pc|d9|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|h8|pc|h2|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h6|pc|c4|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|sA|mc|9|pg|| qx|o22|st||md|4SQT86H5DK9654CJ97,SAJ753HAKJ74DQJTC,S94HQT9863DCKQT63,SK2H2DA8732CA8542|sv|e|mb|1D|an|*|mb|p|mb|1N!|nt|ahollan1: thru 23 playing same boards USA over Estonia 39-6|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 1@D=11-15 HCP, (3)4+@D, unbal, 3@D if (41)35, maybe 2245|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 1N = game force relay|pg|| nt|kit: 6@D is a fine contract, but the 5-0 split dooms it|pg|| nt|Vugraphzay: CR playing 6@D|pg|| mb|4H|nt|kit: If North bids a lot, E-W may be warned about the bad splits|pg|| nt|ahollan1: Drijver showed the round suits|pg|| nt|kit: oh my -- now can they double this?|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i'm scrambling to see if they have rules for high level interference over relay|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kit: Yep -- they can. So this should be a big swing for Netherlands|pg|| nt|ahollan1: what do you think of the 4@H bid Kit?|pg|| nt|Vugraphzay: USA seniors went down seven in 5@HX, biggest score on the board so far|pg|| pc|cA|nt|pelu: Poker - all in on a bad hand :)|pg|| nt|kit: I think 3@H is probably about right|pg|| nt|ahollan1: but bid @H rather than show 2-suiter?|pg|| nt|kit: I don't even know if he can show the 2-suiter|pg|| pc|c7|nt|Vugraphzay: Bangladesh open 5@DXX-2|pg|| nt|ahollan1: oh i just assumed that since opener has known @D length 2N would/could/should be 2-lowest|pg|| nt|kit: This lead will get all 5 of West's trumps it looks like and 3 other tricks, for down 5|pg|| nt|Vugraphzay: Giving Portugal an 1800 swing|pg|| nt|kit: I would still bid 3@H -- more preemptive, longer suit, and clubs isn't so effective to compete with anyway.|pg|| nt|ahollan1: meckwell picked up 5 by playing 3N where 4@S down in other room|pg|| nt|ahollan1: ach picked up 12|pg|| pc|s3|pc|c3|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c9|pc|h4|pc|c6|pg|| nt|ahollan1: @S3 = odd = encouraging in @S|pg|| nt|kit: How would he have discouraged with that holding?|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s9|pc|sK|pc|s6|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cJ|pc|h7|pc|cQ|pg|| nt|ahollan1: hesitate then smile while playing the 5??|pg|| nt|kit: That's the problem with odd-even discards. At least playing standard (or upside-down) you always have a highest card and always have a lowest card.|pg|| nt|ahollan1: smile = discouraging [reverse facial expressions]|pg|| nt|Vugraphzay: The Singaporean seniors went six off in 3@HX by North|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|h3|pc|d3|pc|d4|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|hK|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|h6|pc|d2|pc|d5|pg|| pc|hT|pc|c4|pc|d6|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h9|pc|c5|pc|d9|pg|| pc|dT|mc|5|pg|| qx|c22|st||md|4SQT86H5DK9654CJ97,SAJ753HAKJ74DQJTC,S94HQT9863DCKQT63,SK2H2DA8732CA8542|sv|e|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|6D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h5|pc|hA|mc|9|pg|| qx|o23|st||md|1SJ986HJDAK982CAQ6,SK2HKQT976D3CJT94,SAQ75H854DJ54C873,ST43HA32DQT76CK52|sv|b|mb|1D|nt|ahollan1: Brink playing 3@S south|pg|| mb|1H|nt|kit: Chance for some IMPs back, as it looks like 4@S makes|pg|| mb|d|mb|2D|nt|ahollan1: 2@D = better hand than 2@H|pg|| nt|kit: South worth at least 3@S here, maybe 4@S|pg|| mb|2S|nt|ahollan1: Magnusson bid 2@H and Brink jumped to 3@S ending the auction|pg|| mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d!|an|Alerted by South|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: Alert = my 2@S bid was wrong|pg|| mb|3S|nt|kit: I guess he sees things differently than I do -- that looks like such a great playing hand -- stiif hearts, primes in the other side suits, some intermediates in spades.|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|d6|pc|d9|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s2|pc|sQ|pc|s3|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s8|pc|sK|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sT|pc|sJ|pc|h6|pg|| pc|dA|pc|h7|pc|d5|pc|d7|pg|| pc|dK|pc|h9|pc|dJ|pc|dT|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c9|pc|c3|pc|c2|pg|| nt|Vugraphzay: The Indonesian seniors played 4@SX EW -8!|pg|| nt|Vugraphzay: (2300 to Belgium)|pg|| nt|kit: Decladrer probably ruffed 4th diamond and then took club finesse|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c23|st||md|1SJ986HJDAK982CAQ6,SK2HKQT976D3CJT94,SAQ75H854DJ54C873,ST43HA32DQT76CK52|sv|b|mb|1D|mb|1H|mb|d|mb|2H|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|h3|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h5|pc|hA|pc|s6|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s2|pc|sQ|pc|s3|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s4|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d7|pc|d8|pc|h6|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|c4|pc|s5|pc|sT|pg|| pc|dK|pc|h7|pc|d5|pc|d6|pg|| pc|d2|pc|c9|pc|s7|pc|dT|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|cT|pg|| pc|d9|pc|hT|pc|c7|pc|c5|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o24|st||md|2SAJ3HKJ97DKQ4CK82,SQT986HAT3DA93CQT,SK52HQ8654DT86CAJ,S74H2DJ752C976543|sv|o|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1@S never contains 5+@H|pg|| nt|kit: Most pairs play that South hand is too strong for balancing 1NT call.|pg|| mb|2N|nt|ahollan1: and 1N can't include 5-card major|pg|| nt|ahollan1: CC says balancing 1N after major = 12-16|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kit: This should get them to 4@H unless they have a mixup on what bids mean here|pg|| pc|sT|nt|kit: Probably North was afraid to bid 3@D for fear it would be mis-interpreted|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|hK|nt|kit: However, 3NT is comfortable|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|h2|pg|| nt|ahollan1: Drijver in 4@H north after EW started 1N-P-2@S[trf]|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s5|pc|s7|pc|sA|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cT|pc|cJ|pc|c3|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c24|st||md|2SAJ3HKJ97DKQ4CK82,SQT986HAT3DA93CQT,SK52HQ8654DT86CAJ,S74H2DJ752C976543|sv|o|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c6|pc|c2|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|c4|pc|h7|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cT|pc|cJ|pc|c3|pg|| pc|h6|pc|c5|pc|hJ|pc|hT|pg|| pc|cK|pc|s6|pc|s2|pc|c7|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s8|pc|sK|pc|s4|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d2|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dT|pc|dJ|pc|dK|pg|| pc|h9|pc|s9|pc|hQ|pc|d5|pg|| pc|h8|pc|d7|pc|d4|pc|d9|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o25|st||md|3SQ65HQ62DQJ54CA43,S43HJ73DKT87CQJ98,SAKJ872HAKT95D9CK,ST9H84DA632CT7652|sv|e|nt|Vugraphzay: As you may have noticed, we're overtaking the CR. They are currently bidding this board.|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|nt|kit: This should be very easy 6@S to bid -- once North gets support and some strength from South|pg|| mb|1N!|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|nt|pelu: its for the reecord-books - with Muller at the table :)|pg|| mb|3S|nt|kit: Now, how does South show he has limit raise strength as opposed to some weak spade preference? Do they know?|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 1N = semi-force|pg|| mb|p|mb|4C|mb|p|nt|kit: Seems like South would make same 3@S call with 2-2 in majors and a 6-count|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|nt|kit: If so, once North makes a move South should cooperate|pg|| mb|4N|nt|kit: But is it so clear that 4@H is a Q-bid?|pg|| nt|pelu: last train?|pg|| mb|p|mb|5C|nt|kit: Anyway, they are headed for the good slam.|pg|| nt|Vugraphzay: North in CR thinking after South bid 4@S over his 4@C cuebid|pg|| mb|p|mb|5D|mb|p|mb|6S|nt|ahollan1: Brink - Drijver auction very artificial 1@S-1N//3@C-3N//4@C-4@S// drijver in the tank|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: oops 1@S-2N|pg|| nt|Vugraphzay: They're blackwooding now|pg|| nt|Vugraphzay: And made it to slam|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 02:45 = typing trouble|pg|| nt|ahollan1: after the Queen Ask -- how do you play a response of 5N??|pg|| nt|ahollan1: links for running scores under http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Lille.12/microSite/Results.htm|pg|| nt|ahollan1: nice of Muller to give other room a chance to get ahead of us|pg|| nt|pelu: he is our man (as we use to see) :)|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s5|pc|s4|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s9|pc|s6|pc|s3|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|c8|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h4|pc|hQ|pc|h3|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c9|mc|13|pg|| qx|c25|st||md|3SQ65HQ62DQJ54CA43,S43HJ73DKT87CQJ98,SAKJ872HAKT95D9CK,ST9H84DA632CT7652|sv|e|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|4C|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|4N|mb|p|mb|5C|mb|p|mb|5D|mb|p|mb|6S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h8|pc|h2|mc|13|pg|| qx|o26|st||md|4SJ32HQ983DQCAJT72,SA865H754DT87CKQ4,SKQHAK6DA53C98653,ST974HJT2DKJ9642C|sv|b|nt|ahollan1: Drijver in 3N north on lead of @D4|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: EW 2@D opener = Precision 3-suiter|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|nt|ahollan1: 1N=15-17|pg|| mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kit: Certainly normal to get to 3NT, and with low diamond lead and this distribution it will make.|pg|| pc|d2|nt|ahollan1: would reader's of David Bird's book lead @Dx or @HJ|pg|| nt|ajay_khare: are u there?|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d8|pc|d5|pg|| pc|h3|nt|kit: Probably right to cross to heart and play club up -- when East shows out, win ace, knock out ace of spades, and bank on heart split|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg|| pc|c5|pc|d4|pc|cA|pc|c4|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s5|pc|sK|pc|s4|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s7|pc|s3|nt|kit: This will get declarer 4 hearts, 2 spades, 2 diamonds, 1 club|pg|| nt|ahollan1: moral of the story: 4th from longest and strongest only helped declarer on this hand|pg|| pc|s6|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hT|pc|h8|pc|h4|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d6|mc|9|pg|| qx|c26|st||md|4SJ32HQ983DQCAJT72,SA865H754DT87CKQ4,SKQHAK6DA53C98653,ST974HJT2DKJ9642C|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d4|pc|dQ|pc|d7|pc|d3|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h4|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg|| pc|c5|pc|s4|pc|cA|pc|c4|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s5|pc|sK|pc|s7|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s9|pc|s3|pc|sA|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d5|pc|dJ|pc|c2|pg|| pc|d2|pc|c7|pc|d8|pc|dA|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hT|pc|h8|pc|h5|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hJ|mc|9|pg|| qx|o27|st||md|1S9762HA94D742CJT8,SQT3HQ73D96CK9763,SK84HJ865DAQT8CA4,SAJ5HKT2DKJ53CQ52|sv|o|nt|ahollan1: or leads are a difficult part of our game|pg|| nt|ahollan1: bridge and morals don't really go together :)|pg|| nt|kit: Just had to lead the king -- so obvious :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: Drijver in 1N after the uninterrupted auction P-1@C-1@D-1@H-1@S-1N|pg|| mb|p|nt|kit: Not sure I see a reason to respond on South hand. There really can't be a game, but partner may bid too much.|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|kit: Well, this time maybe we will see a lead from a 3-card suit|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 1@C was forcing in the other room and 1@D was usually 0-6|pg|| nt|ahollan1: certainly a creative lead|pg|| nt|kit: Declarer is looking around for tricks, and doesn't see any|pg|| nt|ahollan1: Magnusson led the plebian @D5|pg|| nt|kit: Assuming you are leading a clubs, leading the queen looks pretty clear from that hand.|pg|| nt|kit: You are playing partner for length, and partner can't have many entries, so you don't want to knock out his possible club entry.|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 1@C-1@D-1@H-1@S-1N|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c3|pc|cA|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c5|pc|cT|nt|ahollan1: prego|pg|| nt|kit: Now, will West work out that the lead was from Qxx?|pg|| pc|cK|pg|| pc|s3|nt|ahollan1: thinking partner has good @S|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sJ|pc|s2|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|sT|pc|s8|pg|| nt|ahollan1: @S3 seems non-optimal choice of spot card|pg|| nt|kit: uh oh -- this gives declarer 2 spade tricks when he should be taking 0|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cJ|pc|c7|nt|ahollan1: or @HK |pg|| pc|h5|pg|| nt|kit: Suddenly declarer is up the 6 tricks, and when there are 6 ......|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d6|pc|dT|pc|dJ|pg|| nt|kit: He needs to shift to a heart now -- not obvious|pg|| nt|ahollan1: Wildavsky thought Muller started with doubleton @S|pg|| nt|ahollan1: middle of hand @S3 = attitude|pg|| nt|kit: West should have played queen of spades on 2nd spade to clarify the spade position|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2nd/4th thru declarer|pg|| nt|ahollan1: what makes you select @SQ vs @S10?|pg|| nt|kit: playing the queen would deny the king, since from KQ he would play the king|pg|| nt|kit: So East now should think that West has king of spades, and thus he will get it wrong.|pg|| nt|ahollan1: still not sure i see why to select @SQ rather than @S10 but knew @S3 was worst choice|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h6|pg|| nt|kit: I meant the play on the second round of spades|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d9|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|hQ|pc|h8|pg|| pc|c9|pc|d8|pc|d3|pc|d7|pg|| nt|ahollan1: ahh after it was already too late|pg|| pc|c6|nt|kit: hah -- cute declarer 3-suit pseudo squeeze|pg|| nt|ahollan1: sounds like great epitaph fell victim to 3-suit pseudo squeeze|pg|| nt|kit: I don't think I've ever seen this position before|pg|| nt|kit: And if he gets it wrong, then another pseudo squeeze on trick 12 |pg|| nt|kit: the feared progressive pseudo squeeze|pg|| pc|dA|mc|5|pg|| qx|c27|st||md|1S9762HA94D742CJT8,SQT3HQ73D96CK9763,SK84HJ865DAQT8CA4,SAJ5HKT2DKJ53CQ52|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d5|pc|d7|pc|d9|pc|dT|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h2|pc|h9|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|cQ|pc|c8|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cT|pc|c7|pc|cA|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hT|pc|hA|pc|h3|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cJ|pc|cK|pc|s4|pg|| pc|c9|pc|s8|pc|d3|pc|h4|pg|| pc|c6|pc|d8|pc|dK|pc|d2|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|dQ|pc|s5|pc|s6|pg|| pc|sT|pc|h8|pc|sJ|pc|s7|pg|| pc|hK|pc|d4|pc|h7|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|s9|pc|d6|pc|dA|pg|| pg|| qx|o28|st||md|2S86H543DQJ72C9764,SA7HAJ976D953CK32,SJT53HK2DK86CAQJ8,SKQ942HQT8DAT4CT5|sv|n|mb|1H|nt|ahollan1: 1@H=11-15 hcp, 5+suit possibly LONGER @S [to facilitate their relay structure]|pg|| nt|kit: This one was a victory for weak NT in closed room|pg|| nt|ahollan1: Tarzan weak NT doesn't allow 5-card major|pg|| mb|d|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|3H|nt|ahollan1: 2@D=3@H, 8-10 HCP|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kit: Fate of 4@H not clear|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i guess Muller knew he'd have a chance to show extras|pg|| nt|kit: But will probably get friendly jack of spades lead|pg|| pc|s5|nt|kit: this works out better for defense, since I doubt if declarer will put in the 9|pg|| nt|kit: Although maybe he should -- but most players wouldn't think of it.|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i can hear the comparison going how did he make 12 tricks ?|pg|| nt|kit: Problem with playing small is if it then goes 10/jack, ace -- you sitll don't know what to do.|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s8|pc|sA|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|s6|pg|| nt|kit: Declarer pretty much knows ace of clubs is offside|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h4|pc|h6|nt|kit: he can set up long spade, but that gives him only 4 hearts, 4 spades, 1 diamond|pg|| pc|hK|pg|| nt|kit: So had to try heart finesse, although even if it won he wouldn't necessarily be home.|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h8|pc|h3|nt|kit: North may have to do some fancy unblocking if declarer ruffs spade, crosses to 10 of hearts, and runs the spades pitching diamonds|pg|| pc|h9|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cQ|pc|c5|pc|c7|pg|| nt|kit: Not obvious what declarer is playing for here|pg|| pc|sJ|nt|kit: Well, if North never shifts to a diamond then it can make|pg|| nt|ahollan1: current standing for these Group A teams Netherlands 2nd with 186 Switzerland 7th with 166|pg|| nt|kit: Now declarer can get either the long spade or the club ruff, but not both, so I still don't think he can make it.|pg|| nt|ahollan1: after 15 rounds top 4 advance|pg|| nt|hedyg: if you want to follow some matches that are not being broadcast you might try this: http://www.bridgecardreader.com/live/|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|h5|pc|h7|pg|| nt|Vugraphzay: The operator at the table has lost the play|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cJ|pc|cT|pc|c4|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c28|st||md|2S86H543DQJ72C9764,SA7HAJ976D953CK32,SJT53HK2DK86CAQJ8,SKQ942HQT8DAT4CT5|sv|n|mb|1N|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sJ|pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|sA|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s5|pc|s9|pc|s8|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h3|pc|h6|pc|hK|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|c7|pc|d3|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|c6|pc|c3|pc|sT|pg|| pc|s4|pc|d2|pc|d5|pc|h2|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h4|pc|h7|pc|d6|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h5|pc|h9|pc|c8|pg|| pc|hA|mc|10|pg|| qx|o29|st||md|3SJ85HT53DAKJT9C54,SKT3HK9762D87CA82,S4HAQJ8D63CQT9763,SAQ9762H4DQ542CKJ|sv|b|nt|ahollan1: our operator, Bas is NOT at the table -- he's being fed the informatino|pg|| mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1@S=11-15 hcp, 5+@S |pg|| nt|ahollan1: 0-4@H|pg|| mb|2H|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: so by extension 1@H opener can be 5@H 8@S|pg|| mb|3D|mb|p|mb|4S|nt|ahollan1: 2@H=3-fit, 9-11 HCP|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: @H length is coicidental|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: coincidental|pg|| nt|kit: play in 4@S looks interesting -- the third round of diamonds might be overruffed with the 4 of spades!|pg|| nt|ahollan1: bookmark this url running scores available from http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Lille.12/microSite/Results.htm|pg|| pc|s5|nt|ahollan1: Brink led @C5|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s4|nt|kit: Very effective lead, killing the diamond ruffs. Now even if declarer takes the winning club finesse he will be a trick short.|pg|| nt|ahollan1: but his partner bid @C|pg|| pc|s6|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h3|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cJ|pc|c5|pc|c2|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d9|pc|d7|pc|d6|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sT|pc|c6|pc|s2|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c3|pc|cK|pc|c4|pg|| pc|d4|nt|kit: Now will unblock club and try a diamond|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d8|pc|d3|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|c7|pc|s7|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c9|pc|d5|pc|dT|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c29|st||md|3SJ85HT53DAKJT9C54,SKT3HK9762D87CA82,S4HAQJ8D63CQT9763,SAQ9762H4DQ542CKJ|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|2C|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c5|pc|c2|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dJ|pc|d7|pc|d6|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c8|pc|c9|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d9|pc|d8|pc|d3|pg|| pc|dT|pc|s3|pc|s4|pc|d2|pg|| pc|c7|pc|h4|pc|s5|pc|cA|pg|| pc|dK|pc|sK|mc|9|pg|| qx|o30|st||md|4SJ6H94DKJ62C86432,SAQ72HJT8DQ97CAK7,SKT54HAQ7D854CQT9,S983HK6532DAT3CJ5|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kit: he really has no winning position that I can see|pg|| mb|1C!|nt|ahollan1: any 16+|pg|| mb|p|mb|1D!|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1@D=a) 0-8 HCP b) 9+ HCP 0-1 Controls [A=2 K=1]|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2D!|mb|p|mb|2H|nt|ahollan1: 1N=16-18|pg|| mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|nt|kit: This will give West a chance to get out below game|pg|| nt|kit: 4@H doesn't look like it will make, but 3NT has a real chance I think.|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c9|nt|kit: I have never understood why one would choose 4@H over 3NT with 4-3-3-3 shape when partner suggests notrump.|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c2|pc|c7|pg|| nt|kit: Friendly lead -- now he has a chance|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c6|pc|cA|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h4|pg|| nt|kit: If he gets the hearts right, he has 4 heart tricks, 3 club tricks 1 spade trick, and 2 diamond tricks he can take.|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s3|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pg|| nt|kit: And another trick comes his way|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h7|pc|h3|pc|h9|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|c3|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s6|pc|sA|pc|s4|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cT|pc|s9|pc|c4|pg|| nt|kit: I guess I don't understand -- I always thought honors were to be led up to, not away from. North seems to think differently.|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d4|pc|dA|pc|d2|pg|| pc|d3|mc|11|pg|| qx|c30|st||md|4SJ6H94DKJ62C86432,SAQ72HJT8DQ97CAK7,SKT54HAQ7D854CQT9,S983HK6532DAT3CJ5|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1D|an|!h|mb|d|mb|1H|an|15-17 bal 3-4 !h|mb|2D|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d8|pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|d9|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|s3|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s8|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h7|pc|h2|pc|h4|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h9|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s9|pc|c2|pc|s2|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o31|st||md|1SA2HJ863DAT52CK93,SK73H42DJ9743C872,SQHAKT97DKQ6CAQ64,SJT98654HQ5D8CJT5|sv|n|nt|ahollan1: overtrick -- easy game|pg|| nt|ahollan1: [heavy sarcasm]|pg|| mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|3S|mb|p|nt|kit: Looks like pretty easy slam to bid -- question is will they get to a grand, and if so will they make it?|pg|| mb|4S|nt|kit: After the 3@S call, declarer will probably misguess the hearts.|pg|| nt|kit: At other table same auction -- North bid 5NT pick a slam. I like that call.|pg|| mb|5N|nt|ahollan1: easier after the 1@C opener|pg|| nt|kit: I don't see any real difference|pg|| mb|p|nt|kit: North would be happy with any of the 3 suits South could pick.|pg|| mb|6H|mb|6S|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h6|pc|h2|nt|kit: So, defense has 2 hearts, 3 clubs, 1 diamond, and at least 1 spade. So down 6 or 7.|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h5|pg|| nt|ahollan1: either way a profitable sacrifice if counting with toes is reliable|pg|| nt|kit: down 7 not profitable|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 1100|pg|| pc|c4|nt|ahollan1: oops 6 down|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cK|pc|c2|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 1400|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c7|pc|cQ|pc|cT|pg|| nt|ahollan1: in college we called that going for Avagadro|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c3|pc|c8|pg|| pc|hA|pc|hQ|pc|h3|pc|h4|pg|| nt|ahollan1: in chemistry that's a very large number|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d8|pc|d2|pc|d3|pg|| pc|d6|pc|s4|pc|d5|pc|d4|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s2|nt|kit: North has shown up with enough that I think declarer will get it right.|pg|| nt|ahollan1: oops Avogadro|pg|| nt|kit: If he does, that's a hard way to win 1 IMP|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i got dain bramage and fat fingers|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sQ|pg|| mc|6|pg|| qx|c31|st||md|1SA2HJ863DAT52CK93,SK73H42DJ9743C872,SQHAKT97DKQ6CAQ64,SJT98654HQ5D8CJT5|sv|n|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|5N|mb|p|mb|6H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d8|pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|dK|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h3|pc|h2|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s6|pc|sA|pc|s3|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h4|pc|hT|pc|hQ|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|o32|st||md|2ST6HJT96DK8632CT2,SK987HKQ8D97CAQ95,SAQ52HA7542DAJ5CK,SJ43H3DQT4CJ87643|sv|e|nt|ahollan1: i'm impressed quite a few specs know Avogadro's Number|pg|| nt|ahollan1: final board of the match|pg|| mb|1N|nt|ahollan1: round 11 begins in 60 minutes|pg|| mb|d|nt|ahollan1: daily bulletin always lists the vugraph schedule for the day|pg|| mb|r|nt|ahollan1: 1N=good 12 - 15|pg|| mb|2D|mb|2S|nt|kit: Looks like 4@H might make if they get there|pg|| nt|kit: I wonder what 2@S is all about???|pg|| nt|ahollan1: DBL = top of west's range|pg|| nt|kit: redouble looks like forces 2@C for runout. But why 2@S?|pg|| mb|3H|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: i thought they played RDBL as penalty|pg|| nt|ahollan1: and RDBL forcing to DBL or 2N|pg|| nt|kit: doesn't look like penalty to me.|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: nor me|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|cK|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h3|pc|hJ|pc|hK|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sQ|pc|s4|pc|s6|pg|| nt|kit: I'm told the redouble shows 5+ clubs. So I guess 2@S was on the way to 3@C, just in case East had spades also.|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|sT|pc|s9|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sJ|pc|h6|pc|s8|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h8|pc|hA|pc|c3|pg|| pc|s5|pc|c4|pc|h9|pc|sK|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c32|st||md|2ST6HJT96DK8632CT2,SK987HKQ8D97CAQ95,SAQ52HA7542DAJ5CK,SJ43H3DQT4CJ87643|sv|e|mb|1N|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d9|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s7|pc|sQ|pc|s3|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|sT|pc|s8|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sJ|pc|h6|pc|s9|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|h3|pg|| pc|s5|pc|c3|pc|h9|pc|sK|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|c4|pg|| pc|cA|pc|cK|pc|c6|pc|c2|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h4|pc|c7|pc|d2|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d5|pc|dT|pc|d3|pg|| mc|9|pg||