vg|BBO4-2nd Mind Sports Games,O-R16-4_6,I,17,32,CANADA,106,MONACO,78| rs|3NE=,3NW=,4DN=,3CS+2,3HS-3,2SE+2,4HW+1,4HE=,4SW-3,3SW-2,3NW-3,3NW-3,3NE=,4SE=,1NEx-2,1NWx-3,4SE=,4SW-1,2SE-1,2HS+2,4HN=,4HN=,3NS+1,3NS+2,PASS,PASS,4HW=,4HEx=,3NW-2,3NE-2,6HW=,5CW-6| pn|WOLPERT,HELGEMO,AMOILS,HELNESS,NUNES,MILES,FANTONI,KORBEL|pg|| qx|o17|st||md|3S96HA2DQ97642CJT6,SA874HJDAT83CAKQ9,SQJT52HKQ985D5C75,SK3HT7643DKJC8432|sv|o|nt|kit: hi everybody|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|vugraphzbb: hi all|pg|| mb|p|mb|1C!|mb|2C!|mb|3C|mb|p|nt|kit: It is a matter of debate whether it is better to open the West hand 1@C or 1@D.|pg|| mb|3H!|mb|d|mb|3N|mb|p!|an|no alert|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hA|pc|hJ|pc|h9|pc|h4|pg|| pc|s9|nt|hedyg: http://info.ecatsbridge.com/Systems/2012WorldChampionships-Lille/OpenTeams/Canada/Amoils-Wolpert.pdf|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|sK|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h2|pc|s7|pc|h8|pg|| nt|kit: This strikes me as a very strange play -- did this really happen?|pg|| nt|kiwibridge: I was wondering why he didn't just claim on the marked @D position|pg|| nt|hedyg: for CCs: http://info.ecatsbridge.com/ListSYSCS.aspx|pg|| nt|hedyg: for results and running scores: http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Lille.12/microSite/RunningScores/ASP/knockoutphaseconditstatMultievColours.asp?qtournid=936&qphase=16|pg|| nt|vugraphzbb: Amoils still thinking...|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h3|pc|d4|pc|s8|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c2|pc|c6|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c7|pc|c3|pc|cT|pg|| pc|cQ|mc|9|pg|| qx|c17|st||md|3S96HA2DQ97642CJT6,SA874HJDAT83CAKQ9,SQJT52HKQ985D5C75,SK3HT7643DKJC8432|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|2N|nt|tax456: ok|pg|| mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|elbec: Hi all, welcome to this interesting match|pg|| nt|tax456: hi|pg|| nt|efrahim: hi everyone|pg|| nt|elbec: 2@d was an opening with diamonds. in third seat, even 7 HCPs were good!|pg|| nt|tax456: very nice contract from canada|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|elbec: the contract lies on the @d finesse|pg|| nt|elbec: considering Nunes's opening, it shouldn't be that difficult|pg|| nt|jillan: there are 9 tricks eve if he plays the !Qs wrong: 4 @C, 3@D (whatever way) and 4@C|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s6|pc|s4|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c6|pc|cQ|pc|c5|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|c3|pc|cT|pg|| nt|elbec: yes because they can't cash 4@h|pg|| pc|cK|pc|h5|pc|c4|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|dK|pc|d2|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d4|pc|d8|pc|s2|pg|| mc|9|nt|efrahim: 3@c must have been stayman not because it was 3@c, but because it was transfer to opponent's suit...|pg|| pg|| qx|o18|st||md|4STHKT9DQT73CAJT83,SKQJ9HAQJ83DJ4CQ9,SA8543H5DA985CK52,S762H7642DK62C764|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|1S|mb|2H|mb|d|mb|r|an|strenght|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|3H|nt|kit: Seems like West has too much junk in spades to bid again.|pg|| mb|4D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kit: But if you can push the opponents up one more, then it is a good bid|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h9|pc|hJ|pc|h5|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d5|pc|dK|pc|d3|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hT|pc|hQ|pc|d8|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d7|nt|kit: Might be right to play club to jack now, paving the way for one more heart ruff and 10 tricks -- 5 trumps, 4 clubs, 1 spade|pg|| pc|dJ|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|sT|pg|| nt|kit: Now if that jack of diamonds had been a falsecard, the third round of diamonds would have defeated the contract.|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s6|pc|dT|pc|s9|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|d9|pc|h2|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c6|pc|cT|pc|c9|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c18|st||md|4STHKT9DQT73CAJT83,SKQJ9HAQJ83DJ4CQ9,SA8543H5DA985CK52,S762H7642DK62C764|sv|n|mb|p|mb|2C|nt|elbec: 2@c shows 5+@c 10+HCPs|pg|| mb|d|nt|elbec: with 14/15 HCPs with @c they open 1@c|pg|| mb|r|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|efrahim: 14 unbal, 15 bal... therefore this opening is limited within 10-13 hcps|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|nt|elbec: 2@c is always an unbalanced hand|pg|| mb|p|nt|efrahim: I know ... with 14 unbalanced and 15 balanced they open 1@c|pg|| mb|p|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|sT|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|cA|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hJ|nt|elbec: 3@h is an easy contract. if he guesses everything he could make up to 2 overtricks|pg|| pc|c5|pc|h4|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|c3|pc|s9|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h3|pc|cK|pc|h6|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d3|pc|d4|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d2|pc|dQ|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c9|pc|s4|pc|c6|pg|| pc|cT|pc|h8|pc|d8|pc|c7|pg|| mc|11|nt|elbec: 3@c sorry|pg|| nt|elbec: not 3@h|pg|| nt|elbec: :)|pg|| pg|| qx|o19|st||md|1ST8HK9743DA852CKT,SA97HQ86DQTCA8732,SQJ5HJTDK64CQJ654,SK6432HA52DJ973C9|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1C!|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|d|mb|r|mb|1N|mb|2S|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|hedyg: http://info.ecatsbridge.com/Systems/2012WorldChampionships-Lille/OpenTeams/Monaco/helgemo-helness.pdf|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|c9|pc|cK|pg|| nt|hedyg: http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Lille.12/microSite/RunningScores/ASP/knockoutphaseconditstatMultievColours.asp?qtournid=936&qphase=16|pg|| nt|vugraphzbb: double and redouble were not alerted..|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s6|pc|s8|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cQ|pc|h2|pc|cT|pg|| pc|d3|nt|moshel: hi|pg|| pc|dA|pc|dT|pc|d4|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s7|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d8|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s2|pc|d2|pc|s9|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|h5|pc|d5|pc|c3|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h6|pc|hT|pg|| mc|6|pg|| qx|c19|st||md|1ST8HK9743DA852CKT,SA97HQ86DQTCA8732,SQJ5HJTDK64CQJ654,SK6432HA52DJ973C9|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|d|mb|r|nt|elbec: rdbl here shows 3 cards in @s|pg|| mb|1N|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|c9|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|d3|pc|d2|pg|| nt|elbec: nice lead by nunes|pg|| nt|elbec: fantoni thinking ... as usual :)|pg|| nt|elbec: ok guys i'm gonna take a cup of coffee meanwhile|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|h6|pg|| nt|shevek: was she hurt? :)|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c2|pc|c6|pc|s2|pg|| nt|shevek: sry private|pg|| pc|d7|nt|elbec: i thought you were saying: "was it heart?", speaking of Fantoni's play|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dT|pc|d4|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s3|nt|shevek: :)|pg|| pc|s8|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|sT|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dA|pc|s9|pc|d6|pg|| nt|elbec: 10 tricks and next board|pg|| mc|10|nt|shevek: Wolpert in 3@h in OR|pg|| nt|elbec: no double no trouble|pg|| nt|shevek: -3, only 50s|pg|| nt|elbec: we're stuck here|pg|| pg|| qx|o20|st||md|2SKQJHT6DQ84CKQ532,SAT9HJDAJ53CAJT64,S87654H974DKT97C8,S32HAKQ8532D62C97|sv|b|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2D!|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kiwibridge: wow was 3@H forcing?|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c7|pc|cQ|nt|kiwibridge: it was|pg|| pc|cA|pg|| nt|kit: I wonder what 4@H would have been then?|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|h6|pg|| nt|kit: Since East didn't pass 3NT, that wasn't his reason for bidding 3@H.|pg|| pc|c4|nt|kiwibridge: 3@H is GF mildly slammish I'm told|pg|| nt|kit: I would say "mildly" is an overstatement of the slam potential of the East hand|pg|| pc|h7|pc|c9|pc|c2|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hA|pc|hT|pc|d3|pg|| mc|11|nt|hedyg: if you are experiencing problems with hearing the voice commentary please read this thread and maybe add your comments: http://www.bridgebase.com/forums/topic/53443-problems-with-vg-voice-commentary/|pg|| pg|| qx|c20|st||md|2SKQJHT6DQ84CKQ532,SAT9HJDAJ53CAJT64,S87654H974DKT97C8,S32HAKQ8532D62C97|sv|b|nt|shevek: in OR Helgemo in 4@h on a transfer over his unorthodox 1NT opening|pg|| nt|elbec: we're back|pg|| mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|efrahim: my vote is also for 1nt ... clearly it describes this hand better than 1@d-2@c or 1@c-2@c|pg|| mb|p|nt|elbec: West opened 1@d so that he could show @c with his second bidding|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s8|pc|s3|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|h6|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s7|pc|s2|pc|sJ|pg|| nt|elbec: a @d switch is needed now|pg|| nt|elbec: to avoid an overtrick|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dA|pc|d7|pc|d6|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s5|pc|h8|pc|sQ|pg|| mc|10|nt|elbec: 1 IMP for Monaco|pg|| pg|| qx|o21|st||md|3S9HA92DK54CAT8643,SKQT752HT85DQ6CQJ,SAJ6HQ7643DJ7C972,S843HKJDAT9832CK5|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|kit: Junky West hand not worth an invite I don't think.|pg|| mb|2C!|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|cA|pc|cJ|pg|| nt|kit: So West thought it an invite , and East accepted despite minimal strength -- not a very good contract.|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cQ|pc|c9|pc|cK|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s9|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pc|h5|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h8|pc|h6|pc|hK|pg|| mc|7|nt|vugraphzbb: very slow server.. I have to wait 20 sec. between claim and new deal..|pg|| pg|| qx|c21|st||md|3S9HA92DK54CAT8643,SKQT752HT85DQ6CQJ,SAJ6HQ7643DJ7C972,S843HKJDAT9832CK5|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|2C|mb|2S|nt|elbec: would have you bid vul/non vul 2@c with Nunes's hand after Fantoni's pass?|pg|| mb|3C|nt|efrahim: definitely|pg|| mb|3S|nt|shevek: I don't mind 2@c|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|shevek: pointy hand|pg|| mb|p|nt|shevek: Wolpert passed though|pg|| pc|c9|nt|shevek: and Helgemo counted his short queens :)|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cA|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cQ|pc|c2|pc|cK|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s9|pc|sK|pc|s6|pg|| nt|shevek: looks like 2 or 3 imps back to Canada|pg|| nt|jillan: which may have helped to propell his opps into 4@S since they had no reason to dislike their club-holdings - maybe|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h7|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h8|pc|hQ|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d6|pg|| pc|s4|pc|c3|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s8|pc|c4|pc|s2|pg|| mc|7|nt|vugraphzbg: d|pg|| pg|| qx|o22|st||md|4SJT8HAJ7D52CJ8732,SQ2HK86DAQT974CAQ,SA64HT432DKCKT954,SK9753HQ95DJ863C6|sv|e|nt|kit: not clear to me how he went down 3 if he got the hearts right.|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2N!|mb|p|mb|3H!|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kit: Reasonable to upgrade the West hand as too strong for 1NT opening|pg|| nt|vugraphzbb: was 3 down..|pg|| nt|kit: Funny hand -- if declarer guesses "right" way to get to dummy, via a spade to king, he will go down, but if he guesses "wrong" heart to queen, then he will drop stiff king of ...|pg|| nt|kit: diamonds and make.|pg|| nt|kiwibridge: thx Harold you're doing a great job|pg|| nt|vugraphzbb: thanks..|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c6|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s8|pg|| pc|cT|pc|d3|pc|c3|pc|cA|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|sK|pc|sT|pg|| nt|kit: Helgemo was unlucky -- he got to dummy.|pg|| nt|vugraphzbb: its very difficult to see the cards because I am on the same table level as the players... lost track..sorry|pg|| mc|6|pg|| qx|c22|st||md|4SJT8HAJ7D52CJ8732,SQ2HK86DAQT974CAQ,SA64HT432DKCKT954,SK9753HQ95DJ863C6|sv|e|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|elbec: EW lack aces in this hand|pg|| pc|c4|nt|shevek: on this lead West can afford to cash @dA|pg|| nt|elbec: once one of my partners said "king of @d is always stiff"|pg|| nt|jafa: jsut a bit better at it than most|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|cK|pc|d3|pc|c7|pc|cA|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|sK|pc|s8|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|dK|pg|| pc|cT|pc|h5|pc|c3|nt|shevek: fair enough|pg|| pc|h6|pg|| nt|elbec: right and unlucky play by miles|pg|| nt|shevek: normal line|pg|| pc|c9|pc|d6|pc|c2|pc|d9|pg|| pc|c5|pc|h9|pc|c8|pc|d7|pg|| pc|sT|pc|dQ|pc|s6|pc|s5|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h8|pc|h2|pc|hQ|pg|| mc|6|pg|| qx|o23|st||md|1S74HKJT84D862C962,S9832HA53DQT94CA4,SAKTHQ76DJ75CQT83,SQJ65H92DAK3CKJ75|sv|b|mb|p|nt|kit: kibs are saying North would have ducked if he didn't want declarer to get to dummy -- but remember, we can see all the hands, North can't. North can't know this is what the hand ...|pg|| nt|kit: is about.|pg|| mb|p|mb|1C|nt|kiwibridge: after the lead perhaps he had to play A@D|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kit: Somewhat pushy 1NT overcall, but passing no bargain.|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h3|nt|kit: Not clear to me why West wouldn't bid Stayman on that hand -- quite suit oriented.|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h2|pg|| nt|moshel: very lucky|pg|| nt|moshel: AK sp sit at N hand|pg|| nt|kit: Yes, hearts 5-3 and North having AK of spades -- he can and will make it.|pg|| nt|vugraphzbb: Wolpert pulling @H K up and down...|pg|| nt|moshel: he know his pd hold the Q hearts |pg|| pc|c9|nt|kit: His problem is that he knows the heart suit is dead. But I think he should continue anyway. Shifting tells declarer he has no entry, and that the hearts are 5-3.|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c5|pg|| nt|moshel: right|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|s5|pc|s4|pg|| nt|moshel: when he played clubs is like to put his cards on the table lol :)|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h9|pc|hK|pc|h5|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|c7|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|s7|pg|| nt|kit: If North had held QJ of clubs then club shift would have worked -- but since only one club need be led through, South could afford to take a second heart trick before shifting to a ...|pg|| nt|kit: club.|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sQ|pc|d2|pc|s8|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|h8|pc|s9|pc|d5|pg|| nt|kiwibridge: 22 - 3NT down 3 both rooms same lead amazing|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c23|st||md|1S74HKJT84D862C962,S9832HA53DQT94CA4,SAKTHQ76DJ75CQT83,SQJ65H92DAK3CKJ75|sv|b|mb|p|nt|elbec: even if playing a small spade instead of the queen would have enhanced his chance|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1H|mb|d|nt|shevek: guess Fantoni opened 1 c|pg|| mb|2H|mb|2S|nt|elbec: again a brave overcall by nunes|pg|| mb|p|nt|elbec: they play weak NT|pg|| mb|3S|nt|elbec: he decided to pass with those 12 HCPs|pg|| mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hJ|nt|elbec: and now they're - as expected - in 4@s.|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|h2|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|s5|pc|s4|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h9|nt|elbec: a 1nt opening by N would have made matters worse for EW|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h3|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h5|pc|h7|pc|s6|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s7|pc|s3|nt|shevek: I like pass with flat 4333|pg|| pc|sA|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sJ|pc|h4|pc|s8|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c3|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c8|pc|cK|pc|c6|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c9|pc|s9|pc|cT|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d5|pc|dA|pc|d2|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d6|pc|d9|pc|d7|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d8|pc|dQ|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|dT|pc|cQ|pc|cJ|pc|h8|pg|| nt|shevek: 1 imp to canada|pg|| pg|| qx|o24|st||md|2SA9863HK7DAJT2C53,S74HQJ92DK543C964,SJ2HA8654D986CAQT,SKQT5HT3DQ7CKJ872|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1S|mb|d|mb|r!|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|h8|pc|h3|pg|| nt|bjacobs: Here's why Fantoni passed on board 23:|pg|| nt|bjacobs: http://neapolitanclub.altervista.org/eng/fulvio-fantoni-claudio-nunes-is-much-stronger-than-me-interview.html|pg|| nt|bjacobs: scroll down a fair way|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s4|pc|sJ|nt|bjacobs: Live results here: http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Lille.12/microSite/Results.htm|pg|| pc|sK|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h7|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pg|| nt|kiwibridge: have you slipped into the wrong room Bill?|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sT|pc|sA|pc|s7|pg|| nt|bjacobs: sorry, can't help it, but we were discussing it on voice|pg|| pc|s9|pc|d3|pc|h4|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dT|pc|dK|pc|d8|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h5|pc|s5|pc|d2|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h6|pc|c7|pc|c3|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|c5|pg|| pc|d6|mc|5|pg|| qx|c24|st||md|2SA9863HK7DAJT2C53,S74HQJ92DK543C964,SJ2HA8654D986CAQT,SKQT5HT3DQ7CKJ872|sv|o|nt|elbec: up to know only 6Imps in 7 boards|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|nt|elbec: fantoni passed with 11HCPs and two aces|pg|| nt|shevek: canape style|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|shevek: maybe not canape, he would've bid 2@c in 2nd round...|pg|| nt|shevek: same contract in OR|pg|| nt|ehsana: hello all :)|pg|| nt|shevek: played by East|pg|| pc|h4|nt|elbec: let's see what happens|pg|| nt|shevek: hi Ehsan :)|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hK|pc|h2|pg|| nt|shevek: well, we know they'll both go down, question is 1 or 2?|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|hT|pg|| pc|d9|nt|ritong: wow|pg|| nt|elbec: excellent switch by Fantoni|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dA|pc|d4|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|d8|pc|d7|pg|| pc|d6|pc|c2|pc|dT|pc|dK|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h5|pc|s5|nt|elbec: second trick for the declarer|pg|| pc|s6|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h6|pc|c7|pc|s3|pg|| pc|c9|nt|elbec: fantoni thinking ... what a surprise!|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cK|pc|c3|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s2|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d5|pc|sJ|nt|ritong: a 5 imps @c K|pg|| mc|4|pg|| qx|o25|st||md|3SQ6H963DA932CT954,SJ983HAKJ72DK8CQ7,SAT4HQ4DQ7654CJ32,SK752HT85DJTCAK86|sv|e|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|2N!|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c5|pc|cQ|pc|c2|pc|c6|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s4|pc|sK|pc|s6|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sQ|pc|s3|pc|sT|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|d4|pc|dT|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|c4|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c9|pc|d8|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h3|mc|10|pg|| qx|c25|st||md|3SQ6H963DA932CT954,SJ983HAKJ72DK8CQ7,SAT4HQ4DQ7654CJ32,SK752HT85DJTCAK86|sv|e|nt|ritong: bonjour:)|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|shevek: bonjour Henri :)|pg|| mb|2D|nt|ritong: 620 looks good for monaco|pg|| nt|elbec: 2@d shows @h and @s with opening values|pg|| nt|efrahim: is it because of the 4th seat or would that be similar in other seats?|pg|| nt|shevek: I guess in any seat|pg|| mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3S|nt|shevek: Flannery|pg|| mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|elbec: 3@s could be maximum hand no singletons, but i'm not sure|pg|| mb|p|pc|d4|nt|efrahim: for the complete knock out phase: http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Lille.12/microSite/RunningScores/ASP/knockoutphaseconditstatMultievColours.asp?qtournid=936&qphase=16|pg|| nt|elbec: let's see now korbel's play. he has to guess a lot of cards|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dA|pc|d8|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dK|nt|shevek: 3@s showed 4522 max|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dJ|pg|| nt|ritong: miles at the wheel can t see no reason to find the @hs(unfortunately)|pg|| nt|elbec: diamond lead makes him gess diamonds|pg|| nt|elbec: but stil a long run|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|c4|nt|elbec: spades play was good|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c3|pc|c6|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s6|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c7|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h6|pc|hA|pc|h4|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sT|pc|sK|pc|d3|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h9|nt|elbec: he should finesse it...|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hQ|pg|| mc|9|nt|elbec: in OR EW pitched a @d on clubs|pg|| pg|| qx|o26|st||md|4S3HAJ876DK8762CAT,SA8765HT92DATC854,SQ92HK4DQ543CJ963,SKJT4HQ53DJ9CKQ72|sv|b|mb|1C|mb|1H|mb|d!|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d9|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|s3|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|h7|pc|sA|pc|s9|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sQ|pc|s4|pc|d6|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|c26|st||md|4S3HAJ876DK8762CAT,SA8765HT92DATC854,SQ92HK4DQ543CJ963,SKJT4HQ53DJ9CKQ72|sv|b|nt|elbec: first important IMPs movement here|pg|| nt|elbec: 12 for Monaco|pg|| mb|p|mb|2H|nt|elbec: 2@h is un unbalanced hand with 5+@h and 9-13 HCPs|pg|| mb|p|nt|elbec: interesting pass by korbel with 12 HCPs|pg|| nt|efrahim: nobody is opening 12 hcp hands today :)|pg|| nt|elbec: I never pass with 12 HCPs, they do. I am here commenting and they're there playing for their national team. I think i need to reconsider my bridge :)|pg|| mb|p|nt|shevek: 1st seat , vul, bal, no aces... fair enough|pg|| mb|p|pc|dA|nt|elbec: diamonds 22, hearts 33 with the queen before the jack. easy contract|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d9|pc|d7|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|sT|pc|s3|pg|| nt|elbec: I said "for their national team". As somebody wrote to me, i had to say "for a national team" lol|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d6|pc|dT|pc|dQ|pg|| nt|ritong: only one person? i m surprised|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h5|pc|h6|pc|h2|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h3|pc|hJ|pc|h9|pg|| pc|hA|pc|hT|nt|efrahim: ''1st seat, vul, bal, no aces'' ... come on ... you dont have to find such reasons ... count your high card points, if it is greater than or equal to 12, bid something|pg|| pc|c3|pc|hQ|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o27|st||md|1SAQ85HAQ62D9C8642,ST764H5DJ863CQT73,SJ9HKJT93DK542CA9,SK32H874DAQT7CKJ5|sv|o|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h4|nt|fabsayc: good morning everybody|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h3|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h2|pc|c7|pc|h9|pg|| nt|hedyg: hi Martin :) welcome|pg|| nt|vugraphzbb: Wolpert bathroom.. director dummy...|pg|| nt|vugraphzbb: hi|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|h6|pc|d6|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|c5|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dT|pc|hQ|pc|d8|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cT|pc|c9|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|s5|pc|dJ|pc|d5|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c6|pc|cQ|pc|hT|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h8|pc|s8|pc|s4|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s2|pc|sQ|mc|10|nt|shashtree: he did not need @SK in very badly played|pg|| pg|| qx|c27|st||md|1SAQ85HAQ62D9C8642,ST764H5DJ863CQT73,SJ9HKJT93DK542CA9,SK32H874DAQT7CKJ5|sv|o|nt|ritong: matter of style|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|nt|shevek: exactely, Helness opened 1@c |pg|| nt|shevek: only lost 2 imps :)|pg|| mb|2D|mb|p|nt|elbec: 1nt is 12-14|pg|| nt|efrahim: lost or won 2imps?|pg|| mb|2N|mb|p|nt|elbec: they can also have 4441, as you can see|pg|| nt|ritong: yes, a particularity of fantunes system is openings of 1X are stronger than usual|pg|| nt|elbec: who decided to pass with 12HCPs lost 2 IMPs|pg|| nt|ritong: thus, anything goes for opening 1NT|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h7|pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|hJ|pg|| nt|elbec: best lead by East|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s4|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h6|pc|d6|pc|hT|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s2|pc|s5|pc|sT|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c2|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h8|pc|hQ|pc|c7|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o28|st||md|2SQ5HKJTDA642CAQT9,SAJ63H632DQJ8CK52,SK982HA8DKT53C863,ST74HQ9754D97CJ74|sv|n|nt|vugraphzbb: hi Don|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C!|mb|p|mb|2D!|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s6|pc|s9|pc|sT|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|d7|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|cT|pc|cK|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h8|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d8|pc|d3|pc|d9|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dQ|pc|d5|pc|h9|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|hT|pg|| nt|hedyg: http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Lille.12/microSite/RunningScores/ASP/knockoutphaseconditstatMultievColours.asp?qtournid=936&qphase=16|pg|| pc|dT|pc|s7|pc|d6|pc|h2|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c7|pc|c9|pc|c2|pg|| pc|cA|mc|10|pg|| qx|c28|st||md|2SQ5HKJTDA642CAQT9,SAJ63H632DQJ8CK52,SK982HA8DKT53C863,ST74HQ9754D97CJ74|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|elbec: 1@h is 14+ with clubs or balanced|pg|| nt|ritong: tough lead|pg|| nt|elbec: 1@c sorry|pg|| nt|elbec: 1@H shows 4+@s|pg|| nt|elbec: 1nt shows 15-17 balanced|pg|| nt|elbec: no spades support|pg|| nt|ritong: @s lead is excluded|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|elbec: @d lead is really unlucky|pg|| nt|ritong: so, is either an aggressive @d Q or a more passive top @h|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d7|pc|dA|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d8|pc|dT|pc|d9|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c7|pc|cT|pc|cK|pg|| nt|shevek: in OR west led a @s (not shown by north)|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s8|pc|sT|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|h4|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c4|pc|c9|pc|c2|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|h5|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pc|c5|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|h3|pc|s2|pc|s7|pg|| pc|d4|pc|s6|pc|d5|pc|s4|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h9|pc|hT|pc|h6|pg|| pc|hK|pc|sJ|pc|s9|pc|h7|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|sK|pc|hQ|pg|| pg|| qx|o29|st||md|3SK2HA543DT72CA765,SQJ7HK2DQJ9865CQ4,ST96HJ9876DKCKT82,SA8543HQTDA43CJ93|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pg|| qx|c29|st||md|3SK2HA543DT72CA765,SQJ7HK2DQJ9865CQ4,ST96HJ9876DKCKT82,SA8543HQTDA43CJ93|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|elbec: a lot of passing 11 HCPs here|pg|| pg|| qx|o30|st||md|4SQJ63HQ74DJ6CJ862,SAKT4HAKJ95DQ42C9,S9875H3DAK873CQT5,S2HT862DT95CAK743|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|3D!|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d6|pc|d2|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d9|pc|dJ|pc|d4|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dT|pc|h4|pc|dQ|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c30|st||md|4SQJ63HQ74DJ6CJ862,SAKT4HAKJ95DQ42C9,S9875H3DAK873CQT5,S2HT862DT95CAK743|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|2D|nt|ritong: king size flannery|pg|| nt|shevek: Flannery again|pg|| nt|shevek: a bit too strong, agree|pg|| mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3D|nt|shevek: 3@d max with sg@c|pg|| mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|nt|elbec: i believe his hand deserves a 4@h bid|pg|| nt|ritong: i do not think he considers passing|pg|| nt|ritong: rather trying to work out if a slam is possible|pg|| nt|shevek: no, he's only thinking of an excuse if the miss a slam |pg|| mb|3N|nt|shevek: they*|pg|| nt|ritong: or that|pg|| mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|nt|elbec: 4@h is indeed safer|pg|| nt|shevek: 3NT was a hint|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|shevek: hmmm|pg|| nt|ritong: apparently fulvio did not like the auction|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|d5|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d9|pc|d6|pc|d2|pg|| nt|elbec: fantoni's double asks for a @d i think|pg|| pc|d8|pc|dT|pc|h4|pc|d4|pg|| nt|shevek: it's only 5 imps|pg|| nt|ritong: not sure why, if 3@d patterns the hand out|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c9|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h7|pc|hA|pc|h3|pg|| nt|ritong: pard will lead a @d no matter what, i mean|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o31|st||md|1SQ753HJT2DAJ6CK86,SKJT96HA543D53CA2,S42H976DT82CQJ943,SA8HKQ8DKQ974CT75|sv|n|nt|vugraphzbb: that was a fast claim from Helgemo|pg|| mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|3C!|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c4|nt|fabsayc: 8 tricks max on a club lead|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cK|pc|c2|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c7|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|s3|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s5|pc|s9|pc|s4|pg|| pc|sK|pc|d8|pc|d4|pc|s7|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d2|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s6|pc|h7|pc|d7|pg|| pc|c6|mc|7|pg|| qx|c31|st||md|1SQ753HJT2DAJ6CK86,SKJT96HA543D53CA2,S42H976DT82CQJ943,SA8HKQ8DKQ974CT75|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1S|nt|ritong: and, hnestly, i would resend the cube with danny's hand|pg|| nt|ritong: can hardly go down two|pg|| mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|shevek: right side|pg|| pc|c6|nt|shevek: any side :)|pg|| nt|shevek: 4M might be the winner|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cJ|pc|c7|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c5|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg|| nt|shevek: easy when we see all hands|pg|| nt|shevek: guess 2NT tried (unsuccesfully) so supress the @c lead|pg|| nt|hedyg: http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Lille.12/microSite/RunningScores/ASP/knockoutphaseconditstatMultievColours.asp?qtournid=936&qphase=16|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s2|pc|s8|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|c8|pc|h3|pc|cQ|pc|cT|pg|| pc|c9|mc|7|nt|elbec: we were kicked out|pg|| pg|| qx|o32|st||md|2ST73H93DJ85CQ6432,SQ9854HA862DACJT9,SJ2HJ54DK63CAK875,SAK6HKQT7DQT9742C|sv|e|mb|1S|nt|vugraphzbb: thisa is the last board of the set..|pg|| mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2H|nt|fabsayc: thanks Harold|pg|| mb|p|mb|4C!|mb|p|mb|4D|mb|p|mb|4S!|mb|p|nt|fabsayc: 7 of either major possible with favourable breaks|pg|| nt|vugraphzbb: wlc..|pg|| mb|5H|mb|p|mb|6H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cK|pc|h7|pc|c2|pc|cT|pg|| nt|key1809: ;|pg|| nt|vugraphzbb: Helness alreay left table...|pg|| nt|vugraphzbb: and Helgemo still thinking...|pg|| nt|vugraphzbb: I keep this table open until the closed room has finished....|pg|| nt|fabsayc: playing on diamonds looks right to me, but handling a 4-1 heart break is tough|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|h4|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h9|pc|h6|pc|h5|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d5|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cA|pc|hT|pc|c3|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d8|pc|h8|pc|d6|pg|| pc|hA|pc|hJ|pc|d7|pc|c4|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|s3|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s7|pc|s5|pc|sJ|pg|| mc|12|nt|vugraphzbb: thanks all for watching, we resume at 14.00 hours local time...|pg|| pg|| qx|c32|st||md|2ST73H93DJ85CQ6432,SQ9854HA862DACJT9,SJ2HJ54DK63CAK875,SAK6HKQT7DQT9742C|sv|e|nt|elbec: this last hand is really interesting|pg|| nt|vugraphzbg: The wifi crashed :(|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|5C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ritong: no.|pg|| pc|d3|nt|elbec: really?|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dJ|pc|dA|pg|| nt|shevek: oh|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cK|pc|d4|pc|c2|pg|| pc|cA|pc|d7|pc|c3|pc|cT|pg|| pc|c5|pc|h7|pc|cQ|pc|cJ|pg|| nt|elbec: well i always open with 12 HCPs as I said. But i rather play on a 3-0 suit :)|pg|| nt|ritong: sigh|pg|| nt|shevek: guess we all pull the wrong card from the bidding box|pg|| mc|5|nt|elbec: and Monaco is ahead of Canada now!|pg|| nt|shevek: the exclusion blackwood was transfer to explosion blackwood (from apocalipse)|pg|| nt|elbec: explosion BW is nice!|pg|| nt|ritong: it s ok, elbec|pg|| pg||