vg|BBO4-2nd Mind Sports Games,O-R16-2_6,I,17,32,IRELAND,33,GERMANY,27| rs|3CS-2,3NW+1,2NE-2,5CEx-3,4HE=,4HE+2,3SE=,2HS=,4SN-2,4SN-2,2CSx-3,4SW=,7NW=,7NE=,1NS=,1SS+1,4HN-1,5HS-1,4SE=,4SW=,1NS+1,1NS+1,4SE-1,2SE+1,4DS=,4HEx-2,3NW+1,3NW+1,3DW-2,3DW-2,2SE+3,2SE+1| pn|CARROLL,SMIRNOV,GARVEY,PIEKAREK,ROHOWSKY,MESBUR,FRITSCHE,FITZGIBBON|pg|| qx|o17|st||md|3S7654HKQ52D96C875,SQJT9HAJ63DAK8CJ3,SK32HDQT32CAQT962,SA8HT9874DJ754CK4|sv|o|nt|vugraphzbb: and we are go|pg|| mb|1D|mb|p|nt|riccho: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/cc/OpenTeams/Ireland/Carroll-Garvey.pdf|pg|| mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1N!|mb|p|nt|riccho: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/cc/OpenTeams/Germany/Piekarek-Smirnov.pdf|pg|| nt|vugraphzbb: showing clubs|pg|| mb|2C|mb|d|nt|vugraphzbb: east asking questions about the bidding|pg|| mb|3C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sQ|pc|s2|pc|s8|pc|s4|pg|| nt|gulyas: hello all|pg|| nt|vugraphzbb: hi :)|pg|| nt|vugraphzbb: welcome|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|s5|pg|| nt|gulyas: this is one of the tightest matches of the 1/8th final|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d6|pc|dK|pc|d2|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sK|nt|gulyas: EW can make abt 3-4@Hs, so if NS makes this, it will surely be a swing for them|pg|| pc|c4|pc|s6|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d9|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg|| pc|sJ|nt|gulyas: but they are not making it|pg|| nt|vugraphzbb: nice defence|pg|| nt|gulyas: in fact, its 2 down now|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cK|pc|s7|pg|| pc|d7|mc|7|nt|gulyas: if Ireland can bid 4@H, they will gain a lot|pg|| pg|| qx|c17|st||md|3S7654HKQ52D96C875,SQJT9HAJ63DAK8CJ3,SK32HDQT32CAQT962,SA8HT9874DJ754CK4|sv|o|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|1N|mb|2C|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d2|pc|dJ|pc|d6|pc|d8|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h2|pc|h6|pc|c6|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|c2|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|cT|pc|h7|pc|hK|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d4|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s2|pc|s8|pc|s4|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|c5|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o18|st||md|4S8763HAKJ6DKT32C2,SKJ2HQD8754CAQ965,SAQ9HT7432DQ9CT87,ST54H985DAJ6CKJ43|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|2C!|nt|gulyas: OK, I hear Ireland did bid game, it was 3NT, which somehow got home, so it IS a swing for them|pg|| nt|gulyas: strange as a @C lead surely beats 3nt|pg|| mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|gulyas: hmm|pg|| nt|gulyas: another interesting bidding here|pg|| pc|hA|nt|gulyas: NS can make 4@H on limited values|pg|| nt|gulyas: but its EW stealing the bidding|pg|| nt|vugraphzbb: Alex said : sorry...not much|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h7|pc|h8|pg|| nt|gulyas: 2nt will go down a couple, but thats not a lot compared to their vul game|pg|| nt|odysseus69: good afternoon all|pg|| nt|gulyas: hi Victor|pg|| nt|vugraphzbb: hi Victor :)|pg|| nt|odysseus69: hi Daniel|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|d4|pc|h3|pc|h5|pg|| nt|odysseus69: strange pass by Garvey over 2C|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s4|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h9|nt|gulyas: agree, he could have bid a negative x at least|pg|| pc|hK|nt|odysseus69: however not certain to reach 4 hearts -|pg|| pc|d5|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|s5|pg|| pc|hT|pc|d6|pc|h6|pc|d7|pg|| pc|h4|pc|dJ|pc|d2|mc|6|nt|gulyas: well, over the neg x S will surely like his both Ms and singleton @C|pg|| nt|vugraphzbb: ireland did make 3nt on 17|pg|| pg|| qx|c18|st||md|4S8763HAKJ6DKT32C2,SKJ2HQD8754CAQ965,SAQ9HT7432DQ9CT87,ST54H985DAJ6CKJ43|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|d|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|d|mb|4H|mb|5C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hA|pc|hQ|pc|hT|pc|h5|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cQ|pc|c8|pc|c3|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c7|pc|cK|pc|s3|pg|| pc|c4|pc|s6|pc|cA|pc|cT|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pc|d2|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|d9|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s2|pc|sQ|pc|s4|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s8|pc|sJ|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o19|st||md|1SAJ82HT32D4CAJ952,SKQT76HAQ84DAJ6CQ,S943H76D98732CKT7,S5HKJ95DKQT5C8643|sv|e|mb|p|nt|gulyas: yes, on the weird-looking @D lead|pg|| mb|1C!|mb|p|mb|1H!|nt|gulyas: whats wrong with leading longest&strongest?|pg|| nt|vugraphzbb: Alex is the couch of our junior team and he did a great job with them :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|nt|gulyas: the couch? are they sleeping on him?:) (just kidding)|pg|| nt|vugraphzbb: lol..|pg|| nt|vugraphzbb: sorry|pg|| nt|odysseus69: for Ireland in closed room is one of the longest standing partnerships in the competition -wonder who can boast longer |pg|| mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|nt|gulyas: now that Chip and Lew have split, they may be the longest|pg|| nt|odysseus69: we are in a relay auction but I am afraid I cant explain the resonses- just know they wil end in 4 hearts|pg|| mb|4H|nt|gulyas: in the meantime, EW relaying their way to 4@H most likely|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d4|pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d5|pg|| nt|gulyas: I am checking my country's seniors, the hand where NS did not mention their @H suit, they got all the way to 5@H and made it! well done (end of private msg here:))|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h6|nt|odysseus69: when partner leads a short suit the first card by pd should be suit preference - not that it will matter here|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h2|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h7|pc|hK|pc|h3|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|s3|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|c3|pg|| nt|odysseus69: either duck or rise and underlead |pg|| pc|d3|nt|gulyas: yes, thats a good treatment|pg|| pc|dT|pc|hT|pc|d6|pg|| mc|10|nt|gulyas: all right, so 10 tricks it is|pg|| nt|odysseus69: 10 tricks either way|pg|| nt|vugraphzbb: you can see the BBO operators lineup here http://livebridge.net/bbo/session.php?sessionid=17|pg|| pg|| qx|c19|st||md|1SAJ82HT32D4CAJ952,SKQT76HAQ84DAJ6CQ,S943H76D98732CKT7,S5HKJ95DKQT5C8643|sv|e|mb|1C|mb|d|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d4|pc|d6|pc|d7|pc|dK|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|s4|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h8|pc|h6|pc|h5|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s3|pc|hJ|pc|s2|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|h7|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hT|pc|hQ|pc|s9|pg|| pc|sK|pc|d2|mc|12|pg|| qx|o20|st||md|2S8HA98762DJ3CAQ65,S9743HKTDAQ9542C7,SKQT6HQ3DT86CK942,SAJ52HJ54DK7CJT83|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1H|mb|d|nt|odysseus69: Ireland won a medal (silver I think) inthe European a few years back|pg|| nt|gulyas: bd18, Ireland sacced in 5@Cx for 500, so thats 9 imps back to Germany|pg|| mb|1N|mb|2S|nt|gulyas: so did Germany|pg|| nt|odysseus69: thinking of 3C and hoping its natural|pg|| mb|d|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|gulyas: NS can make abt 3@H, how many @Ss can EW make?|pg|| nt|vugraphzbb: north thinking|pg|| nt|gulyas: on the face of it, it looks like 3@S can make|pg|| nt|odysseus69: 4 spades may attract red card|pg|| nt|vugraphzbb: asking east questions now|pg|| nt|vugraphzbb: alex passed 3s in a flash..|pg|| mb|p|nt|odysseus69: 3D was a game try -East declined with indecent haste|pg|| nt|vugraphzbb: so we are in 3s|pg|| pc|hA|pc|hT|pc|h3|pc|h5|pg|| nt|vugraphzbb: http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Lille.12/microSite/Results.htm|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|hQ|pc|h4|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s6|pc|sA|pc|s8|pg|| nt|odysseus69: roof will fall in if he tries second spade|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h6|pc|c7|nt|vugraphzbb: lol..he did not|pg|| pc|sT|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s2|pc|h7|pc|s4|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s5|pc|c5|pc|s7|pg|| pc|c2|nt|gulyas: he is home now|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|s9|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d6|pc|dK|pc|d3|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dJ|pc|dA|pc|d8|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c20|st||md|2S8HA98762DJ3CAQ65,S9743HKTDAQ9542C7,SKQT6HQ3DT86CK942,SAJ52HJ54DK7CJT83|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|2D|mb|d|mb|r|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c7|pc|c9|pc|cT|pc|cA|pg|| pc|hA|pc|hT|pc|h3|pc|h5|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|hQ|pc|h4|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|s8|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dJ|pc|dA|pc|d6|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d8|pc|d7|pc|d3|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o21|st||md|3S8732H7DAKJ975CJ5,SA4HAQJT42D843C83,SQJ65HK53DTCKQT92,SKT9H986DQ62CA764|sv|n|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2D!|mb|2H|mb|2S|mb|3H|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|gulyas: S bids what he thinks they may make|pg|| pc|h8|nt|gulyas: as the cards are, pd has a useless @HK instead of a good @S honor|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hA|nt|gulyas: so they are off 4 top cards|pg|| pc|h3|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c5|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cJ|pc|c8|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|s2|pc|s4|pg|| pc|c6|nt|gulyas: ok, 2 down this way|pg|| pc|d5|pc|sA|pc|c9|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|h6|pc|d7|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s9|nt|odysseus69: low from doubleton seems to be spreading - another 10 years and i may give it a try - |pg|| mc|8|nt|gulyas: it has been more than 10 years that I played it last:)|pg|| pg|| qx|c21|st||md|3S8732H7DAKJ975CJ5,SA4HAQJT42D843C83,SQJ65HK53DTCKQT92,SKT9H986DQ62CA764|sv|n|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|2H|mb|2S|mb|3H|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h8|pc|h7|pc|hA|pc|h5|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cT|pc|cA|pc|c5|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cJ|pc|c3|pc|c2|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pg|| pc|c4|pc|d5|pc|sA|pc|c9|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|h6|pc|d7|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s9|pc|s3|pc|h2|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o22|st||md|4SAQJHQ764D975CKQJ,SKT872H5DKQJ8CA92,S9653HT9D64CT7653,S4HAKJ832DAT32C84|sv|e|mb|1H|mb|1N|mb|d|nt|odysseus69: very old habits die hard |pg|| mb|r!|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|nt|gulyas: I tried it when I was a junior, but I did not like it|pg|| nt|odysseus69: xx demands 2 clubs|pg|| mb|p|nt|gulyas: I don't think it makes a big difference|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|nt|vugraphzbb: alex thinking|pg|| nt|gulyas: I hear Germany is catching up again|pg|| nt|vugraphzbb: cards on the table...|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|odysseus69: only 2 down and a save against 4 hearts - the heart 7 and 8 need to be exchanged to beat 4 hearts |pg|| nt|vugraphzbb: and he passed|pg|| nt|vugraphzbb: how is this going ?|pg|| nt|gulyas: a somewhat lucky 4@H, S having only 1 trump trick as N has T9 bare|pg|| nt|gulyas: this has 6 tricks off the top, and a most likely @S ruff for down 2|pg|| nt|odysseus69: 1NT is an ugly bid but it has turned out well|pg|| pc|dK|nt|gulyas: OK, like I said, 2@H was allowed to make for Germany on bd 20, so they gain another 6, and the match is even closer, IRL by 1|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d2|pc|d5|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h9|pc|hK|pc|h4|pg|| nt|odysseus69: better rise with ace or 500|pg|| pc|s4|nt|odysseus69: spade coming|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|s3|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s5|nt|gulyas: oh-oh|pg|| pc|c4|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d7|pc|dQ|pc|d6|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s6|pc|c8|pc|sA|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|s7|pc|hT|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h7|pc|sT|pc|s9|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|h3|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|h8|pg|| mc|5|pg|| qx|c22|st||md|4SAQJHQ764D975CKQJ,SKT872H5DKQJ8CA92,S9653HT9D64CT7653,S4HAKJ832DAT32C84|sv|e|mb|1H|mb|1N|mb|d|mb|r|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|d|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d6|pc|dA|pc|d9|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s3|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dK|pc|d4|pc|d2|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s5|pc|h2|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s6|pc|c4|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dJ|pc|s9|pc|d3|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c8|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h9|pc|hA|pc|h4|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h6|pc|c2|pc|hT|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|sT|pc|c3|pg|| pc|d8|pc|c5|pc|dT|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h7|pc|c9|pc|c6|pg|| pc|h3|pc|cK|pc|s8|pc|cT|pg|| pg|| qx|o23|st||md|1S864H9876D864CQ76,SKQJ93HAQ4DAK7C52,S752HJT52D32CJT98,SATHK3DQJT95CAK43|sv|b|nt|vugraphzbb: 6 sets of 16 brds...this match is still young lol|pg|| mb|p|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|nt|odysseus69: since both 4 heartsnd 3NT as long as declarer wins second club this should be a slucky small Irish gain|pg|| mb|3D|mb|p|nt|gulyas: 19vs17, thats a lot of hcp for EW|pg|| nt|gulyas: 15 tricks from the top|pg|| nt|gulyas: but in 7@D you may take a few more:)|pg|| nt|vugraphzbb: grand|pg|| mb|3S|mb|p|nt|vugraphzbb: at least the play will be fast lol|pg|| nt|odysseus69: every pair in the event will have no problem bidding grand-only danger is getting sysyem wrong |pg|| nt|vugraphzbb: bidding ....i feel ...will take a long time|pg|| mb|4N|mb|p|mb|5S|nt|odysseus69: possible to end in 7 diamonds thinking it might just be safer - not now that West has taken control|pg|| nt|vugraphzbb: 2 and q|pg|| nt|odysseus69: now 7nt certain|pg|| nt|vugraphzbb: nothing is certain in bridge lool|pg|| nt|odysseus69: can find out about 2 kings in addition to the 2 aces and D q he already knows|pg|| mb|p|nt|vugraphzbb: well....alex back to thinking....cards on the table ...head burried into his palms|pg|| nt|odysseus69: definitely wont play in diamonds -in case jxxx - but 5NT now seems obvious|pg|| nt|odysseus69: head burying not needed here|pg|| nt|vugraphzbb: i can give him a lot of sugestions....lol...|pg|| nt|vugraphzbb: he said Sorry...and back to thinking|pg|| nt|vugraphzbb: i would be dizzy if would think that much lol|pg|| mb|7N|mb|p|nt|odysseus69: some players get nervous when about to bid grand|pg|| nt|vugraphzbb: well...this was good thinking|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|s5|mc|13|nt|odysseus69: play wont need any histrionics|pg|| nt|vugraphzbb: Piekarek said : good bidding partner|pg|| pg|| qx|c23|st||md|1S864H9876D864CQ76,SKQJ93HAQ4DAK7C52,S752HJT52D32CJT98,SATHK3DQJT95CAK43|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|4D|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|4N|mb|p|mb|5D|mb|p|mb|5N|mb|p|mb|7N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s4|mc|13|pg|| qx|o24|st||md|2S93HAKQDJ8542CK52,SAQJ4HJ43DKC98764,SK8765H872DAT97C3,ST2HT965DQ63CAQJT|sv|o|mb|1C|mb|1S|mb|d|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|nt|odysseus69: 1 spade overcall does not get my seal of approval - but I walk a lonely road|pg|| nt|vugraphzbb: our connection became very slow|pg|| nt|vugraphzbb: but lets hope we will be ok|pg|| mb|p|pc|c6|nt|hedyg: hang in there Traian!!!|pg|| nt|vugraphzbb: i am....i holding the net connection with my teeth|pg|| nt|gulyas: :)|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cT|pc|cK|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg|| nt|odysseus69: well now i will be told that 1 spade has worked and 1NT will roll home - however since East West cant make anything at the 2 level its not a major triumph|pg|| pc|dT|nt|gulyas: NS can make as many as 4@Ds|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d2|pc|h4|pg|| nt|odysseus69: an d in my wait and see style I would often have a balancing option available|pg|| nt|gulyas: I agree there - I would not have overcalled 1@S with that hand|pg|| nt|vugraphzbb: i am still here....south thinking|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dQ|pc|d4|pc|s4|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|h2|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c5|pc|c7|pc|h7|pg|| pc|cA|pc|s3|pc|c8|nt|odysseus69: where they played 2Cx here - in the CR they played a scary 4S on the 5-! fit- it rolled home luckily|pg|| pc|s5|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s9|pc|sA|pc|s6|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|c24|st||md|2S93HAKQDJ8542CK52,SAQJ4HJ43DKC98764,SK8765H872DAT97C3,ST2HT965DQ63CAQJT|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c8|pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|c2|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h2|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s4|pc|sK|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sT|pc|s9|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h7|pc|h5|pc|hK|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg|| pc|s6|pc|cQ|pc|d2|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h8|pc|h9|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|d4|pc|c4|pc|dT|pc|dQ|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o25|st||md|3SKQHT642DK82CAQ85,ST653H93DAQ5CK732,SAJ74HAKJ8DJ73CJ6,S982HQ75DT964CT94|sv|e|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|nt|odysseus69: Daniel you can join the conservative commentators club- there are not many members|pg|| mb|2N|mb|p|mb|4D|mb|p|nt|odysseus69: Sam Stayman or the other inventors will be turning in their graves|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|odysseus69: I question the use of the convention here|pg|| pc|d9|nt|vugraphzbb: director called half time|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dQ|pc|d7|pg|| nt|odysseus69: here North has very strong hearts but 3NT still looks best|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|d8|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dJ|pc|d6|pc|dK|pg|| nt|gulyas: with so many points, it would have been better to just blast 3nt, agree|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|h5|pg|| pc|s4|nt|odysseus69: Daniel if I ever get to Hungary we will have a game|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sQ|pc|s3|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s5|pc|s7|pc|s8|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h9|pc|hK|pc|h7|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s9|pc|c5|pc|s6|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|c4|nt|odysseus69: making if West has qxx hearts or East has Qx - bad luck but justice|pg|| mc|9|nt|gulyas: You are most welcome, Victor|pg|| pg|| qx|c25|st||md|3SKQHT642DK82CAQ85,ST653H93DAQ5CK732,SAJ74HAKJ8DJ73CJ6,S982HQ75DT964CT94|sv|e|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|5H|nt|bg: dia lead beat 4 h in other room here with S as declarer 4h should make except they are now too high;)|pg|| mb|p|nt|bg: NS mixed up on system bids here N said he had both majors so S bid 4 H N probably thought it was atransfer|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h2|pg|| nt|bg: should be down one if S cashes both spades then heart ace and discard two dia|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c4|pc|c5|pc|cK|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|d2|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c6|pc|c9|pc|cA|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h9|pc|hK|pc|h7|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o26|st||md|4ST7HKQJ985DQJCT83,S98653H3D2CAKQ942,SAQ42HT64D98763C7,SKJHA72DAKT54CJ65|sv|b|mb|1N|mb|2H|mb|3H|nt|odysseus69: tricky board here |pg|| nt|vugraphzbb: welcome to Ish Del'Monte |pg|| nt|ish: Hi all|pg|| nt|gulyas: hi Ish|pg|| nt|ish: hi|pg|| mb|p|nt|odysseus69: hi Ish- were/are you performing here?|pg|| mb|3S|nt|ish: No sadly I lost final by 1 imp|pg|| nt|ish: but thanks for bringing it up, i had almost forgotten!|pg|| nt|vugraphzbb: loool|pg|| nt|odysseus69: ugh - |pg|| nt|ish: was -70 with 16 to play and lost by 1!|pg|| nt|gulyas: ouch|pg|| mb|p|nt|vugraphzbb: Alex back to thinking now|pg|| nt|gulyas: well, I won the selection, but our team could not get the money together to come, how is that?|pg|| nt|odysseus69: sorry - I didnt scan the participants or the group results- now you can win Transnational|pg|| nt|gulyas: :)|pg|| nt|odysseus69: meanwhile what is happening here?|pg|| nt|ish: I saw dubboin and sementa bid this hand to 6@S!|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hK|nt|odysseus69: was 3H a transfer to spades - seems very unilateral|pg|| pc|h3|nt|ish: 3@H was probably invitational + with spades|pg|| nt|odysseus69: dont suppose there is any way to bid clubs - like 3C forcing or 2NT as t/fer to clubs|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hA|pg|| nt|vugraphzbb: garvey asked piekarek if hs showing 3 s|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|c7|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s2|nt|vugraphzbb: piekarek nodded lol|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s7|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sT|pc|s5|pc|sA|pg|| nt|ish: If 3H was GF then East decided to show 3 spades rather than bid 3NT with only 1 stopper I guess|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h2|mc|10|nt|vugraphzbb: claimed 10|pg|| pg|| qx|c26|st||md|4ST7HKQJ985DQJCT83,S98653H3D2CAKQ942,SAQ42HT64D98763C7,SKJHA72DAKT54CJ65|sv|b|nt|bg: good lead in one room misunderstanding in other result a push:)|pg|| mb|1N|mb|2H|mb|2N|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|4S|nt|bg: this is easy hand for specs to bid tougher at table|pg|| nt|bg: N should not be thinking doubling freely bid games not advisable|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hT|pc|hA|pc|hK|pc|h3|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c8|pc|cK|pc|c7|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|sJ|pc|s7|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|hQ|pc|s5|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|sT|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cT|pc|c4|mc|10|pg|| qx|o27|st||md|1SK95HK86DK63CAKT8,SAJ6HJT52DTCQ7632,SQT42H43DAJ972C54,S873HAQ97DQ854CJ9|sv|o|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|odysseus69: 3S looked reasonable - but not so keen on 3 hearts|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|c2|nt|vugraphzbb: the seniors will have captains pick after this round...|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cJ|pc|cK|pg|| nt|vugraphzbb: so at 5pm local time they will start r16|pg|| nt|gulyas: well, hopefully our captain will have the first pick - currently leading group I|pg|| nt|vugraphzbb: i lost play sorry.... i did not see Carrol cards|pg|| nt|vugraphzbb: i wil claim at the end|pg|| nt|gulyas: all right|pg|| nt|ish: looks like dubboin actually bid to 6@C making!|pg|| nt|odysseus69: france too- 6C|pg|| nt|gulyas: which hand?|pg|| nt|ish: 26|pg|| mc|8|nt|vugraphzbb: he claimed 8 |pg|| nt|gulyas: oh, thats a nice contract|pg|| nt|odysseus69: last hand where AKQxxx died unborn|pg|| pg|| qx|c27|st||md|1SK95HK86DK63CAKT8,SAJ6HJT52DTCQ7632,SQT42H43DAJ972C54,S873HAQ97DQ854CJ9|sv|o|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|cJ|pc|cK|pg|| nt|bg: N would like to check for a spade fit but you need an agreement if S responds 2 hearts|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dT|pc|d2|pc|d5|pg|| pc|d3|pc|h5|pc|dJ|nt|bg: 2H-2S South can pass with 3 or bid 2nt|pg|| pc|dQ|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cT|pc|cQ|pc|c5|pg|| pc|c7|pc|s2|pc|s7|pc|c8|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|h3|pc|d4|pg|| pc|d6|pc|s6|pc|dA|pc|d8|pg|| pc|d9|pc|s8|pc|s5|pc|h2|pg|| pc|d7|pc|h9|pc|s9|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg|| pc|c6|pc|h4|pc|h7|pc|h6|pg|| mc|8|nt|bg: next|pg|| pg|| qx|o28|st||md|2SJ8HK73DAQ86CJ873,SQ43H96DKJT94CAQ5,SK95HAJ82D752C964,SAT762HQT54D3CKT2|sv|n|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|2S!|mb|p|nt|odysseus69: anther popular toy - inv with 5 spades and 4 hearts|pg|| mb|2N!|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|nt|gulyas: why not pass with that hand? a balanced 12 count|pg|| nt|odysseus69: obviously I have got this wrong|pg|| nt|vugraphzbb: Alex wrote GF so no invitational|pg|| nt|gulyas: he is sure to have some wasted minor values in that, too|pg|| mb|3S|mb|p|nt|gulyas: I don't think he gave a GF with the 9 count|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|nt|gulyas: he must have meant 2nt as gf|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|odysseus69: 3D = singleton and end -|pg|| nt|gulyas: 3nt would have been better|pg|| nt|odysseus69: sorry I am obviously looking at wrong board|pg|| nt|gulyas: running scores dead in the seniors?|pg|| nt|vugraphzbb: yes i saw..the server has problems|pg|| nt|odysseus69: where I come from the East hand does not look like a game forcing model opposite 1 diamond|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d7|pc|d3|pg|| nt|vugraphzbb: alex said sorry about something|pg|| pc|c3|nt|vugraphzbb: to piekarek|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|c2|pg|| nt|odysseus69: on board 25 they also used Stayman in CR and played in hearts instead of 3NT|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|s8|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|nt|ish: I prefer 3NT or maybe 3C puppet stayman on 25 and if partner bids 3D no 5 card major then bid 3NT|pg|| nt|odysseus69: Yes happy to play in hearts opposite 5 but only then|pg|| nt|vugraphzbb: garvey in the tank|pg|| nt|vugraphzbb: still thinking...|pg|| nt|vugraphzbb: do not go away|pg|| pc|sK|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|h3|pc|h6|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|h9|pg|| nt|ish: this match feels like it will be close all the way!|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d9|pc|d5|nt|ish: I am picking Ireland by 10|pg|| nt|gulyas: OK, claim time|pg|| mc|9|nt|gulyas: down 1 - they really should have played 3@S or 3nt|pg|| nt|vugraphzbb: alex went for bathroom break|pg|| nt|odysseus69: whats the spread? I will buy Germany|pg|| nt|vugraphzbb: 4 more sets of 16 |pg|| nt|hedyg: http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Lille.12/microSite/RunningScores/ASP/knockoutphaseconditstatMultievColours.asp?qtournid=936&qphase=16|pg|| nt|vugraphzbb: this a long time for anything to happen lol|pg|| nt|odysseus69: or 2S - 3NT even with extremely friendly layout should not have made|pg|| nt|vugraphzbb: alex back now|pg|| pg|| qx|c28|st||md|2SJ8HK73DAQ86CJ873,SQ43H96DKJT94CAQ5,SK95HAJ82D752C964,SAT762HQT54D3CKT2|sv|n|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|bg: lets see if the Irish can stop in partscore yep:)|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c5|pc|c9|pc|cT|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d2|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cQ|pc|c6|pc|c2|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|h4|pc|d6|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d7|pc|s2|pc|d8|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c8|pc|cA|pc|c4|pg|| pc|dT|pc|h2|pc|s6|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h7|pc|h6|pc|hA|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hT|pc|hK|pc|h9|pg|| nt|bg: good technique here eliminate all the suits no need to guess spades yet|pg|| pc|h3|pc|s3|pc|hJ|pc|h5|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|s5|pc|s7|pc|s8|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg|| pc|sT|pc|cJ|pc|s4|pc|s9|pg|| pg|| qx|o29|st||md|3SA972H76DA872CAT7,SKJ65HAJ832D3CK52,S8HKTDKT954CQ9843,SQT43HQ954DQJ6CJ6|sv|b|nt|hedyg: if you are experiencing problems listening to voice commenting please check this thread and feel free to add your comments: http://www.bridgebase.com/forums/topic/53443-problems-with-vg-voice-commentary/|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|hedyg: did S really pass?|pg|| mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2H|nt|odysseus69: all matches in Open going as expected except Canada v Monaco which is close|pg|| nt|vugraphzbb: yes|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|3N|nt|ish: 3NT from North, more minors|pg|| mb|p|mb|4D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|vugraphzbb: i will give you the matches shortly for the next round|pg|| nt|odysseus69: well judged -10 tricks available-130 instead of 100 in 3 hearts|pg|| nt|vugraphzbb: i have it in my handnow|pg|| pc|hA|pc|hT|pc|h4|pc|h6|pg|| nt|vugraphzbb: this match goes to bbo1 vg room|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|h5|pc|h7|pg|| nt|vugraphzbb: bbo2 same bbo3 same|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d6|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg|| nt|vugraphzbb: bbo4 canada monaco|pg|| nt|vugraphzbb: bbo5 russia norway|pg|| nt|vugraphzbb: thats it|pg|| nt|ish: Canada ahead of MONACO now!!|pg|| nt|gulyas: wow|pg|| nt|gulyas: go Canada, if I may say that:)|pg|| nt|gulyas: everyone roots for the underdog|pg|| nt|vugraphzbb: lol...no wonder we have them on bbo loool|pg|| nt|odysseus69: but Monaco is a very small country|pg|| nt|vugraphzbb: south still thinking|pg|| pc|d2|pc|hJ|pc|dK|pc|dJ|pg|| nt|gulyas: yes, but how do all those huge egos fit in such a small country? :)|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c6|nt|odysseus69: it looks almost certain that West has club king|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c2|pg|| pc|c7|mc|10|nt|ish: Terry Brown of the aussie open team did not know about the new team of monaco and asked his captain if he could play Monaco as he had a very record against the bunnies!|pg|| nt|gulyas: there is one more 16bd session today, and 3 more tomorrow|pg|| nt|vugraphzbb: lool thats the story of the tournament lol|pg|| nt|gulyas: :)|pg|| pg|| qx|c29|st||md|3SA972H76DA872CAT7,SKJ65HAJ832D3CK52,S8HKTDKT954CQ9843,SQT43HQ954DQJ6CJ6|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|2C|nt|bg: S led wrong J at trick twelve E would at least have to guess|pg|| mb|2D|mb|2H|mb|3D|nt|bg: 2 c must be a playful verdion of michaels|pg|| nt|bg: version|pg|| mb|3H|mb|4C|mb|4H|nt|bg: no green cards:)|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|d6|pg|| nt|bg: if he holds it to down one only two imp loss|pg|| nt|bg: E lucky he cannot get to his hand for H finesse if he does try a spade then maybe 500|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|h4|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|s5|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|hT|pc|s4|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c6|nt|bg: oops now 500|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c2|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sJ|pc|d4|mc|8|pg|| qx|o30|st||md|4S754HAT5D9542C962,ST8HK43DAJT7CAKJT,SKQ32HQJ96D63C543,SAJ96H872DKQ8CQ87|sv|o|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|gulyas: seniors also starting their KO phase tonight|pg|| mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3N|nt|odysseus69: proverbial cup of coffee board - and I will grab one|pg|| nt|gulyas: they only play 4x16 then if I am not mistaken|pg|| nt|vugraphzbb: yes|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|odysseus69: we old boys cant take too many boards|pg|| mb|p|nt|gulyas: as expected, IRL gained 5 on that non-game hand where Germany did bid it anyway|pg|| pc|hJ|mc|10|nt|vugraphzbb: alex did not played ...just put 10 tricks on the table|pg|| pg|| qx|c30|st||md|4S754HAT5D9542C962,ST8HK43DAJT7CAKJT,SKQ32HQJ96D63C543,SAJ96H872DKQ8CQ87|sv|o|nt|bg: Ftz needs a guiness|pg|| mb|1D|mb|p|nt|bg: I think this match will not be decided until about board 94|pg|| mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hQ|pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|h3|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|h6|pc|h7|pg|| mc|10|nt|bg: Fitz bid all he could this time:)|pg|| pg|| qx|o31|st||md|1SA32HT8654DKJ3C53,S8HQ93DAQT7642CT7,SQT975HAKD985C942,SKJ64HJ72DCAKQJ86|sv|n|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hK|nt|gulyas: penultimate board of the session|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h8|pc|h3|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|h6|pc|h9|pg|| pc|sT|nt|ish: germany picking up 9 on 29 probably|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s8|pg|| nt|ish: maybe only 2|pg|| nt|gulyas: what is going on there?|pg|| nt|ish: 4@HX|pg|| pc|s2|pc|d2|pc|s5|pc|s4|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|c6|pc|d3|pg|| nt|gulyas: if they can get 2 @S ruffs in, its 2 down|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d8|pc|c8|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hQ|pc|d9|pc|hJ|pg|| mc|7|nt|ish: YEP DOWN 2|pg|| pg|| qx|c31|st||md|1SA32HT8654DKJ3C53,S8HQ93DAQT7642CT7,SQT975HAKD985C942,SKJ64HJ72DCAKQJ86|sv|n|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|h4|nt|bg: 2 hearts spade heart ruff and two dia down 2 push next|pg|| pc|hQ|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|hT|pc|h9|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s8|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h3|pc|d8|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|d2|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|c6|pc|d3|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d9|pc|s6|pc|dJ|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|o32|st||md|2SKHKJ94DA87CAT532,SA3HQDQ9643CKJ764,S9864HT53DJT52CQ8,SQJT752HA8762DKC9|sv|e|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1S|nt|gulyas: OK, so 500 and 9 imps for Germany on bd29, taking back the lead, by 1|pg|| nt|vugraphzbb: last board many thanks to Victor Daniel and ish|pg|| mb|d|mb|2C|mb|p|nt|vugraphzbb: we will be back in 90 mins|pg|| nt|gulyas: ty all, an exciting set, and probably an exciting match thruout|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|nt|odysseus69: thx all|pg|| mb|p|nt|vugraphzbb: this match will go to the VG theatre...on BBO1|pg|| mb|p|nt|hedyg: thanks Traian, great job as usual :)|pg|| nt|odysseus69: singleton best|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hQ|pc|h3|pc|h2|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg|| nt|hedyg: thank you Daniel, Vic and Ish :)|pg|| nt|gulyas: Hedy:)|pg|| nt|ish: Traian is the best!!|pg|| nt|ish: Thanks all|pg|| nt|hedyg: he is!!|pg|| nt|vugraphzbb: lol..thx ish|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|c8|pc|c9|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|cQ|pc|h6|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d5|pc|h7|pc|d7|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|s6|pc|sJ|pc|c3|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h9|pc|s3|pc|h5|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|sK|pg|| nt|odysseus69: refuses to play that spade king|pg|| mc|11|nt|gulyas: thats a lot of tricks:)|pg|| nt|ish: Canada lost lead on board 28 by playing in 3DX -1400!!|pg|| nt|gulyas: ouch|pg|| nt|vugraphzbb: last minute change of rooms|pg|| nt|vugraphzbb: canada monaco is on vg room|pg|| nt|vugraphzbb: this match stays here|pg|| nt|vugraphzbb: bye all|pg|| nt|gulyas: bye all|pg|| pg|| qx|c32|st||md|2SKHKJ94DA87CAT532,SA3HQDQ9643CKJ764,S9864HT53DJT52CQ8,SQJT752HA8762DKC9|sv|e|mb|1D|nt|granguru: results:http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Lille.12/microSite/Results.htm|pg|| mb|p|mb|1S|mb|d|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sK|nt|bg: last board for this set been fun thx for al specs comments see you again in a short while|pg|| nt|granguru: endsachuldigen http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Lille.12/microSite/Results.htm|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s5|pg|| nt|bg: thx for our operator good job|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h5|pc|hA|pc|h4|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h9|pc|s3|pc|h3|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg|| nt|granguru: endschuldigung :$ :$|pg|| pc|hK|pc|c4|pc|hT|pc|h6|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|d4|pc|c8|pc|h2|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|cQ|pc|c9|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d6|pc|dT|pc|s2|pg|| mc|9|pg||