vg|BBO4-2nd Mind Sports Games,O-QF-2_6,I,17,32,MONACO,39,NETHERLANDS,36| rs|2HW+1,1HW=,5HW=,6HE-1,3NS-4,3DN-1,3CW=,2HE-1,4DN-1,4SWx-2,4SN-1,4SN-1,2HN=,1HN+2,4SE+1,4SE+1,2SN=,2CW+1,2NE+1,3DE+1,2HNx-4,7DE=,2HW=,2HW=,5CE-1,5CE=,3NE+3,3NE+2,5DWx=,5SSx-3,3NE+2,3NE=| pn|NUNES,VERHEES JR,FANTONI,PROOIJEN,BRINK,HELGEMO,DRIJVER,HELNESS|pg|| qx|o17|st||md|3SKQT8HT763D84C954,SJ4HJ852DQ92CA632,SA52HQ4DAJT65CQT7,S9763HAK9DK73CKJ8|sv|o|mb|1N!|nt|siladen: welcome and good evening here|pg|| mb|d|mb|p!|mb|p|nt|bjacobs: hello all|pg|| mb|2D|nt|bjacobs: South's pass was neutral, giving North the chance to run or redouble for a scramble|pg|| mb|d!|nt|bjacobs: or to pass out 1NTX|pg|| mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: Helgemo playing 1@H west|pg|| nt|bjacobs: Probably 1@D-X-P-1@H|pg|| nt|ahollan1: exactly right Bill|pg|| pc|c7|nt|bjacobs: Weak notrumps tend to push it up a little, with some risk to the weak notrumpers and some risk to the opps|pg|| nt|chick: Hello Everyone :)|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c9|pc|c2|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s8|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s6|pc|sK|pc|s4|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d9|pc|dT|pc|dK|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sQ|pc|h2|pc|s2|pg|| pc|cA|pc|cT|pc|c8|pc|c4|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|c5|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sT|pc|d2|pc|d5|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h5|nt|siladen: hopefully connection is better than the first one :)|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|ahollan1: Bill's book on NS system is called "Fantunes Revealed"|pg|| nt|chick: the important suits breaking reasonably nicely will make this a lot easier|pg|| pc|hA|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h6|mc|9|pg|| qx|c17|st||md|3SKQT8HT763D84C954,SJ4HJ852DQ92CA632,SA52HQ4DAJT65CQT7,S9763HAK9DK73CKJ8|sv|o|mb|1D|mb|d|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|sQ|pc|s4|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d2|pc|dT|pc|dK|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sK|pc|sJ|pc|s5|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d9|pc|dJ|pc|d3|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d7|pc|c5|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|s8|pc|h2|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|c8|pc|c9|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cT|pc|cK|pc|c4|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sT|pc|h8|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cJ|pc|h3|pc|c3|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|o18|st||md|4SKQ9853HDQJ4CJ765,SJ72H76532DA962C4,SA64HQJ8DT753CQ92,STHAKT94DK8CAKT83|sv|n|mb|1C!|nt|ahollan1: 1@C=16+ unbal or 18+ bal|pg|| nt|bjacobs: excellent slam, wrecked by hearts 3-0|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p!|nt|ahollan1: pass 0-7 hcp|pg|| mb|3S|nt|ahollan1: NS making things very difficut for EW|pg|| nt|bjacobs: which might rebound on NS|pg|| mb|d!|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|bjacobs: and did|pg|| nt|ahollan1: vP DBL =takeout|pg|| mb|4S|mb|d!|nt|ahollan1: meckwell got to 6@H|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: DBL = encourages competition|pg|| nt|bjacobs: Nunes doing all he can to repair the situation. -800 opposite -50 is not much different to -450 opposite -50|pg|| mb|4N!|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: excellent point from Jack Oest [voice from high above] -- now if EW get to slam, it probably makes|pg|| mb|5D!|mb|p|nt|rhelle: on a @h lead only -100|pg|| mb|5H|nt|bjacobs: I'd say "possibly" makes|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sA|pc|sT|pc|s8|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s6|pc|h4|pc|s5|pc|s7|pg|| pc|hA|pc|s9|pc|h2|pc|h8|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c18|st||md|4SKQ9853HDQJ4CJ765,SJ72H76532DA962C4,SA64HQJ8DT753CQ92,STHAKT94DK8CAKT83|sv|n|mb|1H|mb|2S|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|4N|mb|p|mb|5D|mb|p|mb|6H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sQ|pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|sT|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s7|pc|sA|pc|h4|pg|| pc|hA|pc|s3|pc|h2|pc|h8|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o19|st||md|1SKJ32HK76DKTC8763,S65HAQ8532D872CJ4,SAT7HDAJ6543CKT95,SQ984HJT94DQ9CAQ2|sv|e|nt|ahollan1: lee trevino: the more i practice, the luckier i am|pg|| nt|ahollan1: nunes can't open 1N, verhees can't open 2@H|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D!|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: also credited to hogan and player|pg|| nt|bjacobs: 1@D = 13+ nat (North upgraded)|pg|| mb|2C!|mb|p|mb|2D|nt|bjacobs: 2@C = 10+, clubs, or diamonds or balanced|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|bjacobs: As an unpassed hand, 2@D would be unlimited|pg|| pc|h5|pc|c5|pc|hJ|pc|hK|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d2|pc|d3|nt|bjacobs: it's not a bad contract, would be excellent if vulnerable|pg|| pc|d9|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d7|pc|d4|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h6|pc|h2|pc|d5|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h7|pc|h8|pc|d6|pg|| pc|hA|pc|c9|pc|h9|pc|c3|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|ahollan1: Bertheau 3N undoubled after meckwell bid and raise @H 2@H-3@D-3@H-3N|pg|| mc|5|pg|| qx|c19|st||md|1SKJ32HK76DKTC8763,S65HAQ8532D872CJ4,SAT7HDAJ6543CKT95,SQ984HJT94DQ9CAQ2|sv|e|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hJ|pc|h6|pc|h2|pc|d3|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d9|pc|dK|pc|d2|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d7|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|d5|pg|| pc|dA|pc|hT|pc|h7|pc|d8|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|s6|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg|| pc|h4|pc|c3|pc|hQ|pc|d6|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|s5|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s9|pc|sJ|pc|h3|pg|| pc|s3|pc|h5|pc|c5|pc|s8|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c6|pc|cJ|pc|c9|pg|| pc|h8|pc|cT|pc|cQ|pc|c7|pg|| pg|| qx|o20|st||md|2SAJ764HJ54DATCQ94,S8HQ3DQ843CAKJT83,SQ2HA982D9752C765,SKT953HKT76DKJ6C2|sv|b|mb|2C!|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2@C = 10-15 hcp a) 6+@C 1-suit b) 4+@C 5+@S|pg|| nt|ahollan1: verhees ignoring @D|pg|| mb|2S!|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2@S nat, NF OWN suit|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|bjacobs: well, this is a much better contract than 2@H, in theory and in practice|pg|| pc|d2|nt|ahollan1: yes EW play Ultimate Canape [Ekeblad's system] but with some of their own modifications|pg|| nt|rhelle: 2@h violates Burn's law|pg|| nt|rhelle: = always have more trumps than the opponents|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg|| nt|ahollan1: he has other laws .... my favorite a crossruff won't work in nt|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d4|pc|d5|pc|dK|pg|| nt|chick: Burn's Law of Total Trumps: "When you are declarer, the total number of trumps held by your side should be greater than the total number of trumps held by your opponents." |pg|| pc|c2|pc|c4|nt|bjacobs: That @DJ was an excellent play ... otherwise South could have inserted @D10 to beat the contract|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c5|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|s3|pc|c9|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c7|pc|h6|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s2|nt|bjacobs: Clearly Verhees JR has been well taught by Verhees SR|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|h7|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hT|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d7|pc|d6|pc|s4|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c20|st||md|2SAJ764HJ54DATCQ94,S8HQ3DQ843CAKJT83,SQ2HA982D9752C765,SKT953HKT76DKJ6C2|sv|b|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h5|pc|h3|pc|h8|pc|hT|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h4|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s8|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|c3|pc|s2|pc|s3|pg|| pc|s7|pc|c8|pc|h2|pc|s5|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg|| pc|s6|pc|d4|pc|h9|pc|s9|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|o21|st||md|3SK3HAJ62DKQCKJ873,SAQJT94HQTD87C942,S52H874DA965432CQ,S876HK953DJTCAT65|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C!|mb|2S|mb|p|nt|bjacobs: 3NT by South either makes on a spade lead or goes 3 off on a club lead|pg|| mb|3S|nt|ahollan1: switch the vulnerability does Fantoni open 3@D?|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1@C opening includes Strong NT|pg|| mb|4D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s6|nt|ahollan1: EW upside-down count & attitude, odd/even discard|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sJ|pc|s2|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s5|nt|bjacobs: Now a tough switch for West ... needs to be a heart|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sK|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h4|pc|h3|nt|ahollan1: @S8 suit pref for @H|pg|| pc|hA|pg|| pc|dK|nt|bjacobs: That @S8 was a helpful card|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d2|pc|dT|pg|| nt|bjacobs: sorry, Al, beat me to it|pg|| nt|ahollan1: but hard to imagine Verhees shifting to anything else|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d8|pc|d3|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c9|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|hT|pc|h7|pg|| mc|9|nt|ahollan1: 31-0 start for Netherlands|pg|| pg|| qx|c21|st||md|3SK3HAJ62DKQCKJ873,SAQJT94HQTD87C942,S52H874DA965432CQ,S876HK953DJTCAT65|sv|n|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c2|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s3|pc|s4|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s5|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h4|pc|h3|pc|hA|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|d2|pc|c5|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d8|pc|d3|pc|dT|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d7|pc|dA|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|hT|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cJ|pc|c9|pc|d4|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o22|st||md|4S643H98432DA4C875,S5H5DK986CAQJ9432,SAKQJT8HKJDQJ73CK,S972HAQT76DT52CT6|sv|e|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: again ignoring @D?|pg|| mb|4C|mb|4S|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: i didn't think about 4@C :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|bjacobs: Monaco relieved to get a flat board ...|pg|| nt|ahollan1: probably same contract after 2@C|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c5|pc|cA|pc|cK|pg|| nt|ahollan1: is there any way to beat this 2 tricks?|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i only see -1|pg|| nt|bjacobs: Yes, can ruff a diamond for down 1|pg|| nt|rhelle: lead trumps?|pg|| pc|h5|nt|bjacobs: he is thinking about a trump lead, but the same diamond ruff eventuates|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|h2|pg|| nt|ahollan1: EW 2nd/4th leads in middle of hand|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|c2|pc|hK|pg|| nt|ahollan1: @C2 = @D preference|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h8|pc|s5|pc|s8|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|dK|pg|| pc|c9|pc|sT|pc|c6|pc|c7|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|c3|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s7|pc|s4|pc|c4|pg|| nt|ahollan1: strange to see Fantoni mistime the play|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c22|st||md|4S643H98432DA4C875,S5H5DK986CAQJ9432,SAKQJT8HKJDQJ73CK,S972HAQT76DT52CT6|sv|e|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|d|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cT|pc|c5|pc|cA|pc|cK|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|s8|pc|c6|pc|c7|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|dK|pg|| pc|c9|pc|sJ|pc|d5|pc|c8|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|s5|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dT|pc|dA|pc|d6|pg|| pc|s4|pc|c3|pc|sK|pc|s7|pg|| pc|d7|pc|s9|pc|h2|pc|d8|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o23|st||md|1SJ953HT9DQT72CJ86,ST8HKJ52DK964CQT3,SKQHAQ763DA8CK974,SA7642H84DJ53CA52|sv|b|nt|bjacobs: so strange, that it didn't actually happen :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1H!|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: so he really did play @D before @S|pg|| nt|bjacobs: 1@H is forcing, so ...|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|nt|bjacobs: 1@S = 0-9 nat|pg|| mb|2C!|mb|p|nt|bjacobs: 2@C is Gazilli, natural or 18+|pg|| mb|2H|mb|p|nt|bjacobs: 2@H = 0-5|pg|| nt|ahollan1: all 4 matches on vugraph this set|pg|| nt|bjacobs: which I would be shocked if Fantoni didn't pass|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|d3|nt|bjacobs: It IS Gazzilli, but it's a different form of the beast in the Fantunes system|pg|| nt|bjacobs: the point counts are different|pg|| nt|ahollan1: @D lead = sorry partner, i had to lead SOMETHING|pg|| nt|bjacobs: they did very well to make 9 tricks at the other table!|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d4|nt|bjacobs: started with a good guess at trick 1 on the diamond lead|pg|| pc|d8|pg|| nt|bjacobs: as Fantoni did here. More and more, the top players are avoiding leading away from high honours at trick 1|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|h4|pg|| nt|bjacobs: So declarer thought it a little more likely that East had @DJ than @DK|pg|| pc|h9|nt|ahollan1: wow - how did they both guess @D layout?|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|h8|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s6|pc|s3|pc|s8|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d2|pc|d6|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s5|nt|ahollan1: after 22: Poland over Italy by 8 after 20: Sweden over USA by 9|pg|| pc|sT|pg|| nt|bjacobs: Might he let @DJ hold?|pg|| pc|dJ|nt|ahollan1: thru 22 Russia 23-0 set to ead Ireland by 27|pg|| pc|d7|nt|bjacobs: perhaps not|pg|| pc|d9|pc|h6|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c5|pc|c8|pc|cT|pg|| pc|dK|nt|ahollan1: someday operator can claim "it doesn't matter"|pg|| pc|c7|pc|s4|pc|dQ|pg|| nt|bjacobs: I think perhaps still only 110|pg|| nt|ahollan1: duck brings overtrick back in play -- so @C DID matter|pg|| nt|bjacobs: Anything except @CQ here|pg|| nt|ahollan1: is this pure frozen suit? nah @C3 to ace @C endplays declarer|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c9|pc|cA|pc|c6|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pg|| nt|ahollan1: right verhees gets to choose which suit gets 2nd trick|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c23|st||md|1SJ953HT9DQT72CJ86,ST8HKJ52DK964CQT3,SKQHAQ763DA8CK974,SA7642H84DJ53CA52|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1H!|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d3|pc|dT|pc|d4|pc|d8|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|h8|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|h4|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|sT|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s5|pc|s8|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|hA|pc|s2|pc|c6|pc|h5|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d2|pc|d6|pg|| pc|h6|pc|dJ|pc|s9|pc|hK|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|cA|pc|c8|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pg|| pc|c7|mc|9|pg|| qx|o24|st||md|2ST63HT96D7542CQ92,SK985HQDAKT6CJT64,S2HAKJ7543DQJ8C75,SAQJ74H82D93CAK83|sv|o|mb|1D!|nt|ahollan1: 1@D=10-15 hcp, 0+@D|pg|| nt|ahollan1: possible canape in @S or @C [2nd suit LONGER]|pg|| nt|ahollan1: often weak NT|pg|| mb|4H|nt|ahollan1: couldn't decide between 1@H and 3@H :)|pg|| nt|bjacobs: I think the rule of 2 and 3 leads you to a 4@H bid|pg|| mb|4S|nt|chick: shortage in spades suggests higher preempt|pg|| nt|ahollan1: EW don't really play Negative DBL|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|bjacobs: Even if you had a negative double available over 4@H (most do), you would still bid 4@S, I feel|pg|| pc|hT|nt|ahollan1: their DBL tend to show cards -- especially since opener can have canape [but 1@D never 5+@H]|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|h2|pg|| nt|ahollan1: http://www.ugcs.caltech.edu/ forster/bridge/development/slawinski/ original text that describes Slawinski Leads|pg|| nt|bjacobs: what nationality is Sławiński?|pg|| nt|ahollan1: NS also have description in their Supplemental Notes of their Convention Card|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i'm trying to figure out if there is joke in using "." instead of "l"|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|dA|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|s3|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s6|pc|s8|pc|h3|pg|| nt|chick: the . is replacement for a character that bbo text does not recognize|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sT|pc|sK|pc|h4|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c5|pc|cA|pc|c2|pg|| nt|bjacobs: what are you talking about?|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d4|pc|dK|pc|d8|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c7|pc|c3|pc|cQ|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c24|st||md|2ST63HT96D7542CQ92,SK985HQDAKT6CJT64,S2HAKJ7543DQJ8C75,SAQJ74H82D93CAK83|sv|o|mb|1C|mb|4H|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h6|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|h8|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c4|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s5|pc|s2|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s6|pc|s8|pc|h3|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sT|pc|s9|pc|h4|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c9|pc|c6|pc|c7|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cQ|pc|cT|pc|h5|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o25|st||md|3ST98754H95DQ76CK8,SAHJ762DT92CQJ976,SKJ3HAQ843DA54CT3,SQ62HKTDKJ83CA542|sv|e|nt|ahollan1: Bill my display has you asking about S.awi.ski|pg|| mb|1N!|mb|p|mb|2H!|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|bjacobs: interesting, because I copied the text from the web-site, that had the full Polish characters, and it displayed fine on my screen|pg|| nt|ahollan1: double partscore swing for Monaco|pg|| nt|hedyg: fine here too|pg|| nt|ahalim: terus dia kabur (log-off)|pg|| nt|bjacobs: it might mean that my computer's fot sent is better than yours :)|pg|| nt|bjacobs: font|pg|| nt|chick: but the polish characters aren't recognized by bbo text, so everyone else sees them as dots|pg|| pc|d8|nt|ahollan1: probably because i'm on wrong side of the pond|pg|| nt|bjacobs: no, not everyone ... I'm getting messages saying it's fine on some people's screens|pg|| nt|ahollan1: so north american character set different than rest of world|pg|| nt|bjacobs: as you can see, the F-N weak notrumps include a lot of shapes, including a 5-card major (5332 or 5422, but not both majors)|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d9|pc|d4|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h2|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d6|pc|d2|pc|dA|pg|| nt|bjacobs: He loses lots of finesses here, but the club finesse sees him home|pg|| pc|hA|pc|hT|pc|h9|pc|h6|pg|| pc|h4|pc|c2|pc|s4|pc|h7|pg|| nt|bjacobs: I've been asked for the website for running scores, but like all good parents, I need to tell you kids to work it out for yourselves :)|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s2|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d5|nt|bjacobs: But I'm a bad parent so ... http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Lille.12/microSite/Results.htm|pg|| nt|ahollan1: other room on board 29|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d7|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|c6|pc|c3|pg|| pc|s5|pc|c7|pc|sK|pc|s6|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c25|st||md|3ST98754H95DQ76CK8,SAHJ762DT92CQJ976,SKJ3HAQ843DA54CT3,SQ62HKTDKJ83CA542|sv|e|mb|1H|mb|d|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|dQ|pc|d9|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s2|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|cK|pg|| pc|sT|pc|c6|pc|sJ|pc|s6|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cT|pc|cA|pc|c8|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d6|pc|d2|pc|dA|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o26|st||md|4SAJ42H64DQ7CK6432,SKQ653HADKJ4CQJ75,S987HKQ987D965CA9,STHJT532DAT832CT8|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C!|nt|ahollan1: 16+ unbal or 18+ bal|pg|| mb|1H|mb|p!|nt|ahollan1: PASS = 0-5 or Penalty|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|nt|bjacobs: perfect, he has them both, sort of|pg|| nt|ahollan1: right :)|pg|| nt|ahollan1: EW system = Ultimate Canape|pg|| nt|bjacobs: What should East do?|pg|| nt|ahollan1: many pairs use 1N as a "cuebid" showing good raise|pg|| nt|bjacobs: 1NT was pretty doubtful, given the strong 1@C on his left|pg|| nt|chick: NS might manage as many as 5 tricks|pg|| mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|nt|bjacobs: This looks like 800 territory|pg|| nt|vugraphzbb: Verhees looking at the sky... thinking...|pg|| nt|bjacobs: Maybe only 500, still a horrible result|pg|| nt|chick: in hearts, I think NS can get 2 clubs, 1 spade, 3 hearts, for -500|pg|| nt|bjacobs: I think East has done this just right. He can't double 2@D because that one would be takeout|pg|| nt|bjacobs: But the double of 2@H feels like penalties to me|pg|| nt|bjacobs: I'm guessing a little, because I don't know what a double of 1@H would have meant|pg|| mb|2S|nt|ahollan1: i'm not sure either -- but since PASS 0-5 or penalty of @H ...|pg|| mb|p|mb|2N|nt|bjacobs: And now Fantoni has stolen the diamond suit|pg|| nt|ahollan1: perhaps 2@DX must be used to show penalty DBL of @H|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: with this delayed DBL as takeout|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|bjacobs: Regarding Al's comment about a double of 2@D showing a penalty double of hearts|pg|| pc|c2|nt|bjacobs: This is a method you should play in the following more typical auction|pg|| nt|bjacobs: 1@C-1@H-Pass-Pass-Dble-2@D|pg|| pc|c5|nt|bjacobs: But this auction was so obscure, no-one knew exactly what was going on|pg|| pc|cA|nt|chick: well the good news is that EW didn't get to a bad 3N contract|pg|| pc|c8|pg|| nt|nkgupt: mb the best was to collect what ever available at that vuln in 2@h if there was a possibility of misunderstanding :)|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|hA|pg|| nt|bjacobs: Yes, he's going to fall off his chair!|pg|| nt|bjacobs: And that will be 6 tricks for the defence, won't it?|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c9|pc|cT|pc|cK|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cJ|pc|h8|nt|bjacobs: Actually East is wondering: what on earth was with 1NT bid on?|pg|| nt|bjacobs: South can't have a stiff diamond can he?|pg|| nt|bjacobs: well he bid 1NT|pg|| nt|bjacobs: it's impossible for North to have 4 diamonds ... there's no possible shape for South|pg|| nt|bjacobs: He's thinking: "they are on a different planet to me"|pg|| nt|bjacobs: a different galaxy even|pg|| nt|bjacobs: 5215? no way|pg|| nt|bjacobs: he's shown up for 5 clubs|pg|| nt|bjacobs: 4135 perhaps?|pg|| nt|bjacobs: but then, what is this 2@D bid?|pg|| nt|bjacobs: and 2@H bid for that matter|pg|| pc|h3|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d6|pc|dA|pc|d7|pg|| nt|bjacobs: He's a smart boy|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|s8|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|d2|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|d4|nt|bjacobs: Might as well take the overtrick. Who said 3NT wasn't on!|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dT|pc|s2|pg|| pc|d8|nt|bjacobs: Oh sorry, only 8 tricks|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s5|pc|s7|pg|| nt|ahollan1: other table just finished last board of set|pg|| nt|bjacobs: Have to agree with Jack. van Prooijen did a wonderful job given his opponents and partner went a bid mad|pg|| nt|bjacobs: Well, partner wasn't mad, but he could have passed 2@H whacked|pg|| nt|vugraphzbb: heavy discussion at the table from both sides..|pg|| nt|ahollan1: it's a mad mad world|pg|| nt|sybarra: that discussion will be about "what could have been" |pg|| nt|vugraphzbb: van Prrooijen cals director|pg|| nt|ahollan1: DETAILS Bas -- we want Details|pg|| nt|bjacobs: no law against bidding badly :)|pg|| nt|bjacobs: if there was, we'd all be in prison for the next 1000 years|pg|| nt|ahollan1: oh Harold|pg|| nt|bjacobs: some want to make bidding badly a capital crime|pg|| nt|bjacobs: but that would make it hard to find a game|pg|| nt|sybarra: only when your pard bids badly |pg|| nt|ahollan1: for pic of operators http://livebridge.net/bbo/session.php?sessionid=23|pg|| nt|ahollan1: meckwell table is bidding 27|pg|| nt|ahollan1: thru 27 Poland over Italy by 22|pg|| nt|ahollan1: thru 25: Sweden over USA by 18|pg|| nt|ahollan1: thru 26 Russia over Ireland by 22|pg|| nt|bjacobs: looking at the scorecard, Helgemo Helness have only plus scores from here on in|pg|| nt|ahollan1: and only 54 boards remain after end of this set|pg|| nt|bjacobs: 64 perhaps|pg|| nt|chick: define "bidding badly" :) |pg|| nt|ahollan1: new math escapes me :(|pg|| nt|vugraphzbb: it is the explanation of the 1NT bid by south... |pg|| nt|bjacobs: where would one start?|pg|| nt|sybarra: nothing happened Hedy, relax |pg|| nt|ahollan1: so maybe Fantoni also thought 1N was @H raise|pg|| nt|bjacobs: ah ok ... a possible distinction between 1NT after a natural opening, rather than 1NT after a strong club|pg|| mc|9|nt|vugraphzbb: 1NT was explained by Fantoni... no agreement...|pg|| nt|hedyg: ty Harold|pg|| nt|ahollan1: no agreement?????|pg|| nt|vugraphzbb: director left ... will decided later..|pg|| nt|bjacobs: Smelling salts, please, for Al|pg|| nt|bebechira: lol|pg|| nt|ahollan1: because this is such a rare auction|pg|| nt|bjacobs: It's possible that Al knows more about the Fantunes 1NT than Fantunes|pg|| pg|| qx|c26|st||md|4SAJ42H64DQ7CK6432,SKQ653HADKJ4CQJ75,S987HKQ987D965CA9,STHJT532DAT832CT8|sv|b|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|cA|pc|c8|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c9|pc|cT|pc|cK|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|h2|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|d9|pc|dT|pc|c3|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s7|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cQ|pc|d6|pc|d8|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h6|pc|d4|pc|h8|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s8|pc|h5|pc|s2|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s9|pc|hT|pc|s4|pg|| pc|s5|pc|h9|pc|d3|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|c6|pc|dK|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|s6|pc|hK|pc|dA|pc|dQ|pg|| pg|| qx|o27|st||md|1S96542H865DT4CK54,SJHAKJ9DKQ93C9632,S83HQT732D852CQ87,SAKQT7H4DAJ76CAJT|sv|o|nt|ahollan1: i can live with nat -- but "no agreement" i'm not buying it|pg|| mb|p|mb|1D|mb|1H|mb|d!|mb|2H|nt|ahollan1: 1@D=10-15 hcp, 0+@D|pg|| nt|ahollan1: DBL = 4+@S|pg|| mb|p!|mb|p|mb|d!|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: yes 1@S would be 0-3@S|pg|| nt|bjacobs: just look at that overcall. I'm told it's not the weakest one this guy's ever made|pg|| nt|ahollan1: and 2@D would be 6@S weak or FG|pg|| nt|bjacobs: I don't suppose West could pass?|pg|| nt|vugraphzbb: director in talking to v. Prooijen about previous board..|pg|| nt|bjacobs: But as Jack says, the Dutch pair are going to do wonderfully well to get to a grand|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: the only time west has 4@H is with weak NT or 4441|pg|| nt|bjacobs: They were one board too late with 2@H whacked!!|pg|| nt|vugraphzbb: director left|pg|| nt|bjacobs: Let's do the maths: 1-3-5-8-11-14. He needs 2 tricks to pick up an imp|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|h2|pg|| nt|bjacobs: I'm seeing a club and 2 hearts, and maybe one more heart. So 800 or 1100|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i vote 800|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s3|pc|s7|pc|s2|pg|| nt|bjacobs: It's like being inside a Salvador Dali painting|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c8|pc|cT|pc|cK|pg|| nt|ahollan1: scary images those|pg|| nt|chick: perhaps !3H would have been a better bid by E|pg|| nt|bjacobs: yes, melting clocks spring to mind. how apt|pg|| nt|bjacobs: well, part of the game involves making things difficult for the opponents|pg|| nt|bjacobs: I think we can agree that F-N have done that on the last two hands|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|d7|pg|| nt|bjacobs: I don't think F-N would do this sort of thing in most games. But they are up against pretty much the world's top team|pg|| nt|andersk: I dont think deefence can get 5 down here....If they denigh a @D ruff, Fantoni will get 3@H and 1 @c, if he gets a @D ruff he will at least get 0+3+0+1|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c7|pc|cJ|pc|c4|pg|| nt|bjacobs: the reigning Bermuda Bowl champs|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|c3|pc|s8|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c9|pc|cQ|pg|| nt|ahollan1: these teams were 1 & 2 in the 2012 European Team Championships [dominated by Monaco]|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s5|pc|d3|pc|h7|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d6|pc|dT|pc|dK|pg|| nt|hedyg: http://www.google.ch/imgres?imgurl=http://www.paintinghere.org/UploadPic/Salvador%2520Dali/big/clock%2520melting%2520clocks.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.paintinghere.org/painting/clock_melting_clocks-3994.html&h=679&w=932&sz=95&tbnid=Z-O3Ta_BnETiKM:|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hT|pc|sT|pc|h8|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|dJ|pc|d4|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dA|pc|s6|pc|d9|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s9|pc|dQ|pc|d8|pg|| pg|| qx|c27|st||md|1S96542H865DT4CK54,SJHAKJ9DKQ93C9632,S83HQT732D852CQ87,SAKQT7H4DAJ76CAJT|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|4D|mb|p|mb|4N|mb|p|mb|5S|mb|p|mb|5N|mb|p|mb|7D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dT|pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|dA|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h8|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h3|pc|dJ|pc|h5|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d4|pc|dK|pc|d5|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d8|pc|d6|pc|c4|pg|| mc|13|pg|| qx|o28|st||md|2SA74HT5DA964CKJ96,SQ986HA8DQJ7CAQ53,S532HKJ72DKT83CT7,SKJTHQ9643D52C842|sv|n|nt|ahollan1: good 14-17|pg|| nt|bjacobs: 2@H is tight, but it seems to come home|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|bjacobs: black lead, I bet|pg|| nt|bjacobs: club might work well|pg|| pc|s5|nt|ahollan1: 2@D isn't always @H but ...|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sA|pc|s6|pg|| nt|bjacobs: The Slavinski (or whatever) leads are basically upside down count when you don't have an honour|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cQ|pc|c7|pc|c2|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|h5|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h7|pc|hQ|pc|hT|pg|| nt|ahollan1: @S5 playing Slawinski: low = even, no honor or odd + honor hi = odd, no honor or even + honor|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|s8|pc|s2|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s7|pc|s9|pc|s3|pg|| nt|ahollan1: sorry i was typing when Bill's explanation came thru the ether|pg|| mc|8|nt|bjacobs: had to be a club up front. I think the @C10 turned Fantoni off it, to a degree (he wasn't really looking for ruffs anyway)|pg|| nt|vugraphzbb: 2@D was alerted which I missed, sorry prev ious b oard..|pg|| nt|vugraphzbb: v, Prooijen bathroom|pg|| nt|vugraphzbb: back|pg|| pg|| qx|c28|st||md|2SA74HT5DA964CKJ96,SQ986HA8DQJ7CAQ53,S532HKJ72DKT83CT7,SKJTHQ9643D52C842|sv|n|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s2|pc|sT|pc|sA|pc|s9|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cQ|pc|c7|pc|c2|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|h5|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h7|pc|hQ|pc|hT|pg|| pc|h4|pc|d9|pc|c3|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c4|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|s4|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s7|pc|sQ|pc|s5|pg|| pc|s8|pc|hK|pc|c8|pc|c9|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o29|st||md|3ST74HJT3DJT65CA64,SAQ9653H97D84CKJ2,SKJ2HKQ86542D7CQ7,S8HADAKQ932CT9853|sv|b|nt|ahollan1: thru 30 Sweden over USA by 23|pg|| nt|ahollan1: Russia over Ireland by 18|pg|| mb|2H!|mb|3D|nt|ahollan1: Bill LOVES the fantunes 2-bids|pg|| nt|bjacobs: I do, they are a big winner on balance|pg|| mb|3H|mb|3S|mb|4H|nt|ahollan1: 2@H = unbal but never @H & @S|pg|| nt|ahollan1: now is 5@C nat and 4N RKC in @S?|pg|| mb|5C|nt|ahollan1: seems so|pg|| nt|ahollan1: other possibility 4N = minors and 5@C = cue for @S|pg|| nt|chick: 6@D can't make due to diamond split, but 6@C has good chance|pg|| nt|bjacobs: Yes, but I don't see that West has a slam bid on his hand|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hJ|nt|chick: nor do I, and making 6@C is pretty double dummy|pg|| nt|bjacobs: Theoretically, is this making?|pg|| nt|bjacobs: You might have to make an unnatural guess in the club suit|pg|| nt|chick: yes, exactly|pg|| nt|bjacobs: Hedy is right ... at the other table, North tried to cash @HK, not having heard heart support from partner|pg|| nt|bjacobs: when in with @CQ|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg|| pc|c3|nt|bjacobs: But then South went wrong, as declarer was forced to play another club|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pg|| nt|bjacobs: South could have cleared clubs|pg|| nt|ahollan1: only 3rd pickup for Monaco but those 3 have been significant|pg|| nt|bjacobs: heart back, a second club, and South ducked|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d4|pg|| nt|bjacobs: Hmm, a heart might have worked better, to be honest|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c7|pg|| pc|hT|nt|bjacobs: But Nunes is there|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hK|nt|ahollan1: oh my|pg|| pc|c8|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c6|pc|cK|nt|ahollan1: and back again|pg|| pc|h2|pg|| pc|d8|mc|10|nt|bjacobs: Well, that was careless by East, if it actually happened, which I doubt|pg|| nt|ahollan1: good think i'm wearing a crash helmet|pg|| pg|| qx|c29|st||md|3ST74HJT3DJT65CA64,SAQ9653H97D84CKJ2,SKJ2HKQ86542D7CQ7,S8HADAKQ932CT9853|sv|b|mb|1H|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|5C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hJ|pc|h7|pc|h6|pc|hA|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|hK|pc|c5|pc|h3|pc|h9|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c6|pc|c2|pc|c7|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d4|pc|d7|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d6|pc|d8|pc|h2|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dT|pc|s3|pc|h4|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dJ|pc|cK|pc|s2|pg|| pc|sA|pc|sJ|pc|s8|pc|s4|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sK|pc|c8|pc|s7|pg|| pc|d3|mc|11|pg|| qx|o30|st||md|4S542HT2D7CKQ98764,SAQT9H63DAQT95CT2,SJ76HKQJ974DJ82C3,SK83HA85DK643CAJ5|sv|o|nt|chick: seesaw carelessness :)|pg|| nt|bjacobs: East could have played a second top diamond ... if they are 3-2, then no problem, if not, you hope it can't be ruffed|pg|| mb|1N|nt|bjacobs: I am not convinced the play record was accurate|pg|| nt|minnie lee: a big turn around in this match|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i'm with Bill -- hoping that wasn't actual play|pg|| mb|3C|mb|d!|nt|vugraphzbb: I think you both were right..|pg|| nt|ahollan1: does anyone play Penalty DBL anymore?|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|nt|bjacobs: For general info of kibitzers, it is often unwise to trust the play records ... it's very difficult for operators, because cards are played quickly and carelessly, and the operator is not allowed to intervene|pg|| mb|p|nt|bjacobs: to ask what was played|pg|| nt|vugraphzbb: right..|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|cA|pg|| nt|ahollan1: that is absolutely toughest part of operator's job|pg|| pc|d3|nt|ahollan1: some players don't even let operator see cards|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dQ|pc|d2|pg|| nt|bjacobs: as I understand it, the only thing the operator is allowed to say is, after the play is over, to confirm the number of tricks made|pg|| pc|cT|pc|h7|pc|c5|nt|ahollan1: and they must confirm score because the BBO score fed directly to the web page of running scores|pg|| pc|cQ|pg|| nt|ahollan1: that isn't done in ACBL/USBF events|pg|| mc|12|nt|minnie lee: @h discard on @c |pg|| pg|| qx|c30|st||md|4S542HT2D7CKQ98764,SAQT9H63DAQT95CT2,SJ76HKQJ974DJ82C3,SK83HA85DK643CAJ5|sv|o|mb|1N|mb|3C|mb|d|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hT|pc|h6|pc|hJ|pc|h5|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h3|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d7|pc|dQ|pc|d2|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d8|pc|dK|pc|c8|pg|| pc|d4|pc|c4|pc|dA|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|dT|pc|s6|pc|d6|pc|c6|pg|| pc|d9|pc|c3|pc|c5|pc|c7|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|s3|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|s4|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o31|st||md|1SAKJ87632HJ93DJ6C,S94HT6DK9753C9874,SQT5H742DQTCAQJT6,SHAKQ85DA842CK532|sv|n|mb|4S|nt|bjacobs: yes, the bridgemate result is what you see on the running scores|pg|| nt|ahollan1: bridgemate is used only in tables NOT on vugraph|pg|| mb|p|nt|bjacobs: and of course, that might not be right eithuer :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|d!|nt|bjacobs: i'd defer to Al|pg|| mb|p|mb|5D|nt|ahollan1: i always thought bridgemate at all tables -- but was corrected by someone i trust|pg|| nt|bjacobs: big call here|pg|| mb|p|nt|bjacobs: If East bids the 6th, we are on another big swing, one way or another|pg|| nt|bjacobs: Fantoni needs to lead his ace to 6@D|pg|| nt|bjacobs: Anyone for a Lightner double by South?|pg|| nt|andersk: yes|pg|| mb|p|nt|authau: yes|pg|| nt|bjacobs: even now?|pg|| mb|d|nt|andersk: I agree to everthing that works :)|pg|| nt|chick: not of 5@D|pg|| nt|bjacobs: 420 becomes 550|pg|| mb|p|nt|peyret: 5 @s |pg|| nt|bjacobs: and if East should happen to redouble, we have the most unusual flat board|pg|| nt|bjacobs: how would you like this to be the last board of the match at this scoreline?|pg|| nt|chick: scary thought|pg|| nt|bjacobs: it MIGHT be East in the tank, about XX|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|cA|nt|bjacobs: Even Salvador Dali might not have contemplated this set ... altnough we had a similar one in Monaco Canada yesterday|pg|| pc|c2|pc|s2|pc|c4|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|d6|pc|c7|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s4|nt|bjacobs: So I was right ... deferring to Al :)|pg|| pc|s5|pc|d2|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i can't take credit -- i got it wrong 1st couple of sets|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|dT|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pc|s3|pg|| nt|ahollan1: who would have imagined a 1 imp match after halfway point of set|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h3|nt|bjacobs: It's been a quarter in two halves, as they say in the sports commentary|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h2|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h9|pc|hT|pc|h4|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hJ|nt|ahollan1: i started typing that just as Jack mentioned same thing in voice commentary|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c31|st||md|1SAKJ87632HJ93DJ6C,S94HT6DK9753C9874,SQT5H742DQTCAQJT6,SHAKQ85DA842CK532|sv|n|mb|5S|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hT|mc|8|pg|| qx|o32|st||md|2SKT7H9863DT652CK3,SQ985HAJT2DCJT652,SJ62HQ7D8743CAQ87,SA43HK54DAKQJ9C94|sv|e|nt|ahollan1: final board of the set 3rd of 6 segments [last of the day] begins in about 45 minutes|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C!|mb|p|mb|1S!|mb|p|mb|1N!|nt|bjacobs: wild though it's been, these 4 are great players: I see part of their greatness as having been very tough on their opponents.|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1@S has a few hand types possibe|pg|| mb|2D!|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: vanProoijen just relaying for more info|pg|| nt|hedyg: thanks Harold, great job :)|pg|| nt|d23nh3: a very tight game|pg|| nt|ahollan1: no 1@S = 3-places to play [usually 5431]|pg|| nt|hedyg: thank Al and Bill :)|pg|| mb|3H!|an|4414|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: Verhees treating his hand as 4414|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|d23nh3: looks like a finale as kib says:)|pg|| pc|h3|nt|ahollan1: relay structure doesn't really handle 4405 very well|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s7|pc|sQ|pc|s2|pg|| nt|chick: Thanks to Al and Bill, my fellow commentators, and to Jack and Hedy for their fine voice comments.|pg|| nt|d23nh3: ty all|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s6|pc|s4|nt|bjacobs: 3 suiters are hard for most scientific systems. 4441 and 5440 shapes|pg|| pc|sT|pg|| nt|chick: A special thanks to Harold Joels, our excellent vugraph operator!!|pg|| nt|d23nh3: special thanks to our vugraph operator|pg|| nt|vugraphzbb: thanks... |pg|| pc|h9|pc|hT|pc|h7|pc|h4|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pc|sK|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|c2|pc|d3|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|c5|pc|d4|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d6|pc|c6|pc|d7|pg|| mc|11|nt|d23nh3: ty hedy, cornella, bill, see you all next round|pg|| nt|bjacobs: just another flat set|pg|| nt|lubas city: new leader:) monaco|pg|| nt|bjacobs: cheers|pg|| nt|vugraphzbb: thanks all for watching this ghre|pg|| nt|vugraphzbb: this great match... being back in 40 minutes...|pg|| nt|d23nh3: ty harold|pg|| nt|vugraphzbb: welcome|pg|| pg|| qx|c32|st||md|2SKT7H9863DT652CK3,SQ985HAJT2DCJT652,SJ62HQ7D8743CAQ87,SA43HK54DAKQJ9C94|sv|e|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|3D|nt|authau: re hi|pg|| mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|nt|kingcur: seems we're back|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d6|pc|c2|pc|d3|pc|d9|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h3|nt|authau: last board of 2nd set|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hQ|pg|| mc|9|nt|authau: thx to our Operator, our all Specs for joining (hope you enjoyed), thx Cor for commentating, ty BBO|pg|| nt|kingcur: last session of today scheduled at 17.00 CET, so in an hour and a half|pg|| nt|authau: http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Lille.12/microSite/Results.htm|pg|| nt|authau: bye:)|pg|| nt|kingcur: from 16.10 on, we also have two tables from the transnationals|pg|| nt|kingcur: http://www.bridgebase.com/vugraph/schedule.php for schedule in your own time zone|pg|| nt|kingcur: cu all later, Im moving to othe room|pg|| pg||