vg|BBO3-2nd Mind Sports Games,O-QF-1_6,I,1,16,MONACO,0,NRTHERLANDS,0| rs|2DN=,2DN=,1NN=,1NN+2,2SS+1,3SS=,6CS-2,2SW=,4SSx-3,4HE+2,6SSx-2,6HWx+1,3NE+2,3NE+2,4HS-1,4HS=,2DN-1,2SS=,4HS+1,4HN=,6CE+1,3NE+2,4SW=,4SW=,3NE+2,4HE=,,3NE+2,,4SN+1,,6DS-2| pn|ZIMMERMANN,DE WIJS,MULTON,MULLER,BRINK,NUNES,DRIJVER,FANTONI|pg|| qx|o1|st||md|3SKJ952H6DQ42CQT53,SA7HAK5DJT876CJ74,SQ4HQJ942DK953CAK,ST863HT873DAC9862|sv|o|mb|1H|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: voice for our room and other tables visible without login via http://bridgebase.com/client/vugraph.php|pg|| nt|ahollan1: hi Hedy|pg|| mb|1S|nt|ahollan1: morning is right 01:30 here|pg|| mb|p|mb|2D|an|4+!D Max 16 HCP|mb|p|nt|bobholl: 2@S or pass ?|pg|| nt|ritong: pass|pg|| nt|ritong: they gazzilli|pg|| nt|bobholl: than surely pass|pg|| nt|ahollan1: in the 2012 European Team Championships Monaco was 1st Netherlands [2011 Bermuda Bowl winners] 2nd|pg|| nt|ritong: but it is recent|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|ritong: so perhaps zim has kept old reflexes|pg|| nt|ahollan1: EW carding upside-down count & attitude, odd/even discard|pg|| nt|vugraphzba: Multon called the TD but I do not know why|pg|| pc|c6|nt|ritong: hi bas|pg|| nt|ahollan1: Fantoni also led @C|pg|| nt|vugraphzba: After he opened the screen and said something about alerting, de Wijs responding "It's OK, now we know"|pg|| nt|ahollan1: Meckstroth led @DA then shifted to @S|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|c4|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 4+@D|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|sA|pg|| nt|ahollan1: Quarter Finals 2 days, 3 sessions per day, 16 board per for a 96 board match|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h7|pc|h6|pg|| pc|c7|pc|h4|pc|c9|pc|cT|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|s7|pc|s4|pc|c8|pg|| pc|sK|nt|ahollan1: to earn overall each player must play at least 1/3 of total boards in the KO -- no minimum per match|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dK|pc|s6|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h3|pc|d2|pc|h5|pg|| pc|sJ|nt|bobholl: drijver made 2@D in other room|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|hJ|pc|s8|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|d4|pg|| nt|bobholl: @S +1 @H ==|pg|| pc|h8|pc|dQ|pc|hK|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|s5|pc|d8|pc|d5|pc|sT|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d9|pc|hT|pc|s9|pg|| pg|| qx|c1|st||md|3SKJ952H6DQ42CQT53,SA7HAK5DJT876CJ74,SQ4HQJ942DK953CAK,ST863HT873DAC9862|sv|o|nt|d23nh3: there we go|pg|| mb|1H|mb|p|nt|d23nh3: should be wonderful set|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|nt|vugraphzbf: we have 4 super players|pg|| mb|2D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c2|pc|c3|nt|d23nh3: triain keep us posted|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cK|pg|| nt|vugraphzbf: i will do not worry|pg|| nt|vugraphzbf: at the moment thinking|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h3|pc|h6|pc|hA|pg|| nt|d23nh3: you need to:)|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|d2|pg|| pc|c9|nt|d23nh3: a quiet beginning|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c4|pc|cA|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s3|pc|s2|nt|vugraphzbf: Claudio thinking now|pg|| nt|d23nh3: uh oh|pg|| pc|sA|pg|| pc|d7|nt|d23nh3: thats trouble..claudio thinking.. we are to fulvio's thinking sessions:)|pg|| pc|d5|pc|c6|pc|dQ|pg|| nt|d23nh3: *we are used|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c7|pc|h2|pc|c8|pg|| nt|kingcur: good morning all|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s7|pc|s4|pc|s6|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|dT|pc|dK|pc|s8|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h7|pc|d4|pc|h5|pg|| nt|d23nh3: welcome Cor|pg|| mc|8|nt|kingcur: thx VA :)|pg|| pg|| qx|o2|st||md|4ST95HQT2D52CA8743,SQ764HK63DK98CK52,SK83HA7DAQJT6CQT6,SAJ2HJ9854D743CJ9|sv|n|mb|p|nt|hedyg: find all your info on the official site: http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Lille.12/microSite/Lille.htm|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|ritong: bonjour hedy|pg|| mb|1N!|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 15-17|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: same auction other room Fantoni lead Slawinski @H9|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c9|pc|c3|pc|cK|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h7|nt|ahollan1: muller @H4 lead was Attitude|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h2|pg|| pc|h9|nt|hedyg: EW CC: http://info.ecatsbridge.com/Systems/2012WorldChampionships-Lille/OpenTeams/Netherlands/muller-dewijs.PDF|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h3|nt|ahollan1: lower = better [and dislikes shift to other suit]|pg|| pc|c6|pg|| pc|d2|nt|hedyg: all CCs: http://info.ecatsbridge.com/ListSYSCS.aspx|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dA|pc|d4|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|d8|pg|| pc|dT|nt|ritong: guess we have to wait for some claim|pg|| nt|ritong: which might be huge|pg|| nt|ahollan1: direct link to CCs for this tournament http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/docdefault.asp?page=cc|pg|| nt|vugraphzba: Sorry all, I lost the play :(|pg|| nt|ritong: npnpnp|pg|| nt|vugraphzba: I'll claim the correct number of tricks at the end|pg|| nt|ritong: 210 would not be surprising|pg|| mc|7|nt|ritong: oh:)|pg|| nt|ritong: francky!|pg|| nt|ahollan1: Henri -- with France out of the event, do you now root for Zimmermann-Multon??|pg|| pg|| qx|c2|st||md|4ST95HQT2D52CA8743,SQ764HK63DK98CK52,SK83HA7DAQJT6CQT6,SAJ2HJ9854D743CJ9|sv|n|nt|minnie lee: goomorning all|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|d23nh3: GM Minnie|pg|| nt|minnie lee: good morning :)|pg|| nt|vugraphzbf: hi ;)|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|nt|murat e: good morning all|pg|| nt|kingcur: running scores for all matches: http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Lille.12/microSite/RunningScores/ASP/knockoutphaseconditstatMultievColours.asp?qtournid=936&qphase=QF|pg|| nt|d23nh3: hey slm Murat|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|h9|nt|d23nh3: we expect some fireworks soon.. first 2 hands too dull|pg|| nt|kiwibridge: thats only the Open :) all scores here http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Lille.12/microSite/Results.htm|pg|| nt|minnie lee: well this hand won't produce any fireworks|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h3|pc|h7|pg|| nt|murat e: this is the first set of 16 boards 8 teams competing|pg|| nt|kingcur: let's see what today's first session of the QF brings. Yesterday, we witnessed an almost miraculous revival of the Dutch team, who were some 50 imps behind on France but scored two ...|pg|| nt|kingcur: incredible sessions to change that into a 60 imp lead|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d8|pc|dQ|nt|d23nh3: thats what i mean|pg|| pc|d3|pg|| nt|murat e: total 6 sets and after 96 boards we shall learn the semi finalists|pg|| nt|kingcur: And the Dutch also not performing particularly strongly in the RR explains why they are now facing Monaco|pg|| nt|vugraphzbf: Bas thinking now.... he had some water to think better as well|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c9|pc|cA|nt|kingcur: these teams the numbers 1&2 of the European Championship recently held in Dublin|pg|| pc|c2|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d9|pc|dT|pc|d4|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d7|pc|c3|pc|dK|pg|| pc|dJ|nt|d23nh3: traian, you are expected to enliven things here|pg|| pc|h5|pc|s5|pc|s4|pg|| nt|vugraphzbf: i will sing for you|pg|| pc|d6|nt|murat e: the 4 big favourites Italy-Netherlands-Monaco-USA are all playing with different opps|pg|| pc|s2|nt|d23nh3: a few tidbits here and there mebbe|pg|| pc|h2|pc|s6|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cJ|pc|c4|pc|cK|pg|| nt|d23nh3: lol no singing here:)|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|cT|nt|serhat: oh nooo! not today Trian:)|pg|| mc|9|nt|d23nh3: we will dance with you later:)|pg|| pg|| qx|o3|st||md|1SAQ95HAT4DJ75CK43,S864HQJ8732DQ82C6,SK732H5DKT6CQT985,SJTHK96DA943CAJ72|sv|e|nt|ritong: both are long time pals so, yes|pg|| mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1H!|an|4!S|mb|p|mb|2S!|an|4!S 13-16 support points|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c6|nt|ahollan1: Nunes overcalled 1@H Brink in 3@S south|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cA|pc|c4|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|s4|pc|c5|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d6|pc|dA|pc|d5|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c3|pc|s6|pc|c9|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h5|pc|h6|pc|hA|pg|| mc|9|nt|bobholl: and a push|pg|| pg|| qx|c3|st||md|1SAQ95HAT4DJ75CK43,S864HQJ8732DQ82C6,SK732H5DKT6CQT985,SJTHK96DA943CAJ72|sv|e|mb|1C!|mb|1H|nt|murat e: sorry Netherlans play with Monaco that means one of the favourites will be eliminated this round|pg|| nt|kingcur: the sunny weather appears to do all sorts of funny things to commentators and vugraph-operators, it seems :)|pg|| mb|d!|mb|2C|mb|2S|an|4 cards|mb|p|nt|vugraphzbf: are you refering to me ? :)|pg|| nt|murat e: both of them struggled in their last 16 matches but finally won their matches|pg|| mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kingcur: yes, Monaco was trailing Canada for five sessions, but eventually score a 50+ imps session to settle things|pg|| nt|vugraphzbf: Claudio thought for a while but passed|pg|| nt|kingcur: somewhat surprising to see Sjoert Brink bid a mere 2@S with 14 and @C possibly well placed. I'm sure they have stronger ways to show @S fit|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c8|nt|uni_dennis: 4333 no reason to go higher|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c3|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|s4|pc|c5|pg|| nt|murat e: if dia now declarer has a guess|pg|| nt|kingcur: @D now will decide wether he will make this 3@S|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d6|pc|dA|pc|d5|pg|| nt|d23nh3: needs a @d guess|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cK|pc|s6|pc|c9|pg|| nt|kingcur: got it right, well done|pg|| mc|9|nt|d23nh3: and claim|pg|| pg|| qx|o4|st||md|2S92HJT54D962CA643,SQ86HKQ7DAQJ85CJ8,SAT7HA982DKCKQT92,SKJ543H63DT743C75|sv|b|mb|1C!|an|16+ HCP|nt|ahollan1: 1N = good 12-15|pg|| nt|ahollan1: drat|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 1@C=any 16+|pg|| mb|1N|an|South: Both minors 5-5|mb|p|an|0-5 (6) HCP|nt|ahollan1: i never imagined deWijs upgrading that hand|pg|| nt|ahollan1: KnR says west hand worth a mere 14.05 http://www.jeff-goldsmith.org/cgi-bin/knr.cgi?|pg|| nt|vugraphzba: De Wijs finding it hard to believe that NS play strong NT overcalls against strong @C|pg|| nt|vugraphzba: So when he asked again, Zimmerman seemed to change his explanation to minors...|pg|| nt|ritong: uh?|pg|| nt|bobholl: good 12 to 15|pg|| nt|ritong: sheesh|pg|| nt|vugraphzba: I am sitting on one side of the screen and not at the head so I do not know what is going on on the other side|pg|| nt|ritong: well, the " are you sure" is a bit weird|pg|| nt|ahollan1: CC just says DBL = @H & @S and 1-suit = nat|pg|| mb|4C|mb|p|nt|ritong: i understand de wijs wants to be helpful, but...|pg|| nt|ahollan1: sorry ns cc says DBL = @H & @S 1@D=@H or @S and 1M=M+m|pg|| nt|bobholl: isn't 4@C a transfer to 4@H ?|pg|| nt|ahollan1: thanks Bas -- i forgot to alert PASS|pg|| mb|4H|an|South: cuebid|mb|p|nt|bobholl: S now thinks it is a cue ?|pg|| nt|ahollan1: or shortness |pg|| mb|5C|mb|p|mb|6C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ritong: cough|pg|| nt|bobholl: one of the kibs remarks this is an unusal way to get a flat board|pg|| nt|ahollan1: what a very bizarre benefit of upgrading west hand to 1@C opener|pg|| pc|hK|nt|ritong: 1 down looks a bit underestimated|pg|| nt|bobholl: but i don't think it will be a push|pg|| nt|vugraphzba: Zimmermann shaking his head in disbelief|pg|| nt|vugraphzba: Zimmermann now checking the explanation of 1@C on the cc|pg|| nt|vugraphzba: Discussing now, heads under the screen|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h4|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c7|pc|c3|pc|c8|pg|| nt|ritong: well|pg|| nt|vugraphzba: South claimed and now they're discussing|pg|| nt|ritong: when you know you are going to play the orange team, it might be useful to do some homework before the match|pg|| nt|ahollan1: Fantunes 1@C opening in other room is good hand, including Strong NT|pg|| nt|vugraphzba: But EW don't seem to be sure|pg|| nt|vugraphzba: Now Multon called the TD|pg|| nt|vugraphzba: It seems Multon is claiming he didn't see an alert by Muller|pg|| nt|ritong: not that the tarzan club is a frightening out_of-this-world system|pg|| nt|vugraphzba: That's what it seems like to me anyway|pg|| nt|ritong: but still|pg|| nt|vugraphzba: But as I said they're on the other side of the screen|pg|| nt|bobholl: yesterday i had a similar problem (opponents had different cards :))|pg|| mc|10|nt|vugraphzba: Muller displaying how he alerted|pg|| nt|vugraphzba: There is some debate about it now, Multon saying Muller should've put it on the tray|pg|| pg|| qx|c4|st||md|2S92HJT54D962CA643,SQ86HKQ7DAQJ85CJ8,SAT7HA982DKCKQT92,SKJ543H63DT743C75|sv|b|nt|kingcur: Meanwhile, first blood to the Dutch on 2, Multon for Monaco making 7 tricks in 1NT in other room|pg|| mb|1C!|mb|p|mb|1H!|mb|p|mb|1N|nt|vugraphzbf: 1c is forcing...they are playong fantunes|pg|| mb|p|mb|2H!|mb|p|mb|2S|nt|murat e: another 4-4 major fit and game is likely if they reach there|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|murat e: with the lucky distribution of cards|pg|| nt|d23nh3: very insipid hands i say|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c5|pc|c3|pc|c8|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c7|pc|cA|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hK|nt|d23nh3: a kib says 4@h for ns|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h3|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: 1@c showed 14+ with @c or 15+ bal|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h6|pc|hT|pc|hQ|pg|| nt|murat e: ý meant 4-4 heart fit for NS|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s7|nt|uni_dennis: 1@h is 0-11 with 4+@s|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s9|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg|| pc|h9|pc|s4|pc|h5|pc|h7|pg|| pc|sJ|mc|8|nt|uni_dennis: North could not see a way to get in this bidding|pg|| nt|vugraphzbf: hi Dennis :)|pg|| nt|d23nh3: good result for fantunes|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: hi traian :)|pg|| pg|| qx|o5|st||md|3SQ7432HAT83D53CJT,SJ5HKQJ965DK6CA95,SAT98HDQ9872CQ643,SK6H742DAJT4CK872|sv|n|nt|vugraphzba: Which is the official regulation but no-one ever actually does it|pg|| nt|ahollan1: wasn't there some system discussion before play began?|pg|| nt|bobholl: if you don't know your opponents play a strong @C you are ...... not written :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1H|nt|ahollan1: 1@H = max 15 hcp|pg|| nt|vugraphzba: De Wijs now called the TD and is pointing something out on the NS CC|pg|| nt|vugraphzba: Seemingly their defence against a strong 1@C opening|pg|| nt|vugraphzba: Zimmermann now also claiming he didn't see an alert|pg|| nt|bobholl: it would be a great problem if they had reached a making 4@H this way|pg|| nt|vugraphzba: Apparently their is no explanation of 1NT over strong 1@C on the NS CC|pg|| nt|ritong: hard to believe|pg|| nt|vugraphzba: De Wijs pointed out that he had actually written down the meaning of 1@C|pg|| nt|vugraphzba: The TD is still standing on the other side of the screen|pg|| mb|d|mb|2D!|an|8-11 HCP 3!H|nt|vugraphzba: De Wijs very carefully alerting now|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2@D=3@H, 8-10 HCP|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2@H would be weaker raise|pg|| mb|2S|mb|4H|mb|4S|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hK|nt|ritong: better let the adrenaline go low |pg|| nt|vugraphzba: The 1NT on the previous board was voluntarily alerted by Zimmermann by pointing at it and holding his thumb up. De Wijs then asked and Zimmermann wrote down it was minors|pg|| nt|ahollan1: NS did great job saving against 4@H -- but only if vulnerability reversed|pg|| nt|ahollan1: with all of the delays we're only 1 board behind other room|pg|| pc|s8|pc|h7|pc|h3|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i wonder if @H7 was suit pref for @D|pg|| nt|ritong: if the count is known with the bidding, it surely is|pg|| nt|bobholl: i guess zimmerman would sign for losing only 1 imp on this board|pg|| nt|ahollan1: yes 2@D was 3-fit|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|s9|pc|h4|pc|h8|pg|| pc|c4|nt|ahollan1: one more chance to get @D going?|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cT|pc|c9|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|d2|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d7|pc|dJ|pc|d5|pg|| nt|ahollan1: @D10 pretty auto now|pg|| pc|dA|nt|ahollan1: auto was an overbid :(|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sJ|pc|d8|pg|| nt|ahollan1: declarer gives trick back to defense|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cQ|pc|c7|pc|hT|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|s2|pc|s5|pg|| mc|7|nt|ahollan1: 02:30 here -- i'll just stick to describing bidding|pg|| pg|| qx|c5|st||md|3SQ7432HAT83D53CJT,SJ5HKQJ965DK6CA95,SAT98HDQ9872CQ643,SK6H742DAJT4CK872|sv|n|nt|uni_dennis: not sure if NS will bid 4@h thoug|pg|| nt|minnie lee: this contract was never in danger|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: but partscore pick up at least|pg|| nt|d23nh3: at least a 3@h|pg|| nt|vugraphzbf: when i set up the match i made a typo with Netherlands name...i apologize for that...very sorry|pg|| mb|p|mb|1N|nt|uni_dennis: N had a difficult hand to tell his @h + @c|pg|| mb|p|mb|4C!|nt|d23nh3: np traian.. you always do a wonderful job|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: 1NT (11)12-14 now|pg|| mb|d!|mb|4H|nt|serhat: Dear friends; Today We lost world's one of the leading bridge player, Salvador Assael, in France. We wish him rest in peace. And our condolances for his family and Turkish bridge !|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: not sure if DBL by N is take-out of @hs|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: or telling to lead some suit (@c or another??)|pg|| nt|d23nh3: Oh:( RIP Assael|pg|| nt|vugraphzbf: well Sjoert thinking now|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|d23nh3: he was Tez's p? |pg|| nt|vugraphzbf: and passed |pg|| pc|cJ|nt|serhat: yes he was a very nice man.. and a very good player|pg|| nt|murat e: yes him and Nafiz Zorlu once won the blue ribbon pairs the first foreign pair to win that prestigious tournement at that time |pg|| nt|d23nh3: oh Nafiz's |pg|| nt|kingcur: big @S fit for Brink after delayed dbl in N, but @HAT8x looks like a hand to defend with|pg|| nt|d23nh3: nafiz zorlu lost his p|pg|| nt|vugraphzbf: Fulvio thinking|pg|| nt|vugraphzbf: screen closed...Brink asking Claudio some questions|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c2|pg|| nt|murat e: he was making a diet lost too much weight Dukhan they say......|pg|| pc|hK|nt|uni_dennis: bd 4 zimmermann - multon bid all the way up to 6@c|pg|| pc|c6|pc|h2|nt|uni_dennis: N overcalled the strong 1@c with 1NT, showing minor + Major, but south took it as minors|pg|| pc|h3|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|d9|pc|h4|pc|h8|pg|| nt|murat e: this is easy despite bad trump break|pg|| nt|kingcur: 6@C while Brink-Drijver did nothing, that's indeed surprising|pg|| nt|vugraphzbf: this is a remath of the SF in Veldhoven...where Netherlands won|pg|| nt|vugraphzbf: rematch|pg|| nt|vugraphzbf: sorry...that was