vg|BBO5-2nd Mind Sports Games,O-PO-5_5,I,1,16,MONACO,207,IRELAND,126| rs|4SE-1,4SE-1,3NE-1,3NE-1,2CSx-1,3SE+1,4HE=,4HE+1,4SWx-1,3NW=,4SN+2,4SN+1,4SN=,4SS-1,1NN=,1NN-2,4HW=,4SW-1,3SN-1,3HEx-1,3SN-1,3SN-1,3SW-1,2SE+1,6CN=,6CS=,2NW-1,4DW-1,5SWx-2,5DS=,4SE-1,3HN-2| pn|NUNES,FITZGIBBON,FANTONI,MESBUR,McGANN,HELGEMO,HANLON,HELNESS|pg|| qx|o1|st||md|3S5HKQT962D765C873,SJ98H84D984CAJ942,S762H53DAKQJTCK65,SAKQT43HAJ7D32CQT|sv|o|mb|1N!|mb|d|mb|2D|nt|ahollan1: 12-14 NT throughout, includes some atypical distributions|pg|| mb|p|mb|2H|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hK|nt|ahollan1: both pairs upside-down count & attitude|pg|| nt|ahollan1: the other room McGann-Hanlon playing Carrot Club Helgemo-Helness natural|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h5|pc|h7|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d4|pc|dQ|pc|d2|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|d8|pg|| nt|ahollan1: our table EW: Precision NS:fantunes where all 1-suit openings forcing|pg|| pc|dA|pc|sT|pc|d6|pc|d9|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|cK|pg|| pc|dT|pc|s3|pc|s5|nt|ahollan1: which is better down 1 in 4@S or down 1 in 3N?|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c1|st||md|3S5HKQT962D765C873,SJ98H84D984CAJ942,S762H53DAKQJTCK65,SAKQT43HAJ7D32CQT|sv|o|mb|1N|mb|2S|mb|3H|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|h3|pc|hA|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|c5|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|cT|pc|c7|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d2|pc|d5|pc|d4|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d6|pc|d8|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|h8|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o2|st||md|4SK62H3D5CKT987432,SQJ98HAQ2DT942C65,S543HKJ975DAQ63CJ,SAT7HT864DKJ87CAQ|sv|n|nt|ahollan1: there will be more trick questions as the set progresses|pg|| mb|1N|nt|ahollan1: EW evaluate their balanced hands with JP [jackson points: 54321]|pg|| mb|3C|nt|ahollan1: 1N 14-16 or 21-24 jp|pg|| mb|d!|nt|ahollan1: Jackson is their NPC - co-authored a book with Ron Klinger that describes the methodology|pg|| nt|ahollan1: DBL = takeout|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s2|nt|ahollan1: way way back when there was a count system that used 5431 that made a bit more sense to me|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s5|pc|s7|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 7531 -- was that 4 Horseman?|pg|| nt|ahollan1: oh Vienna|pg|| nt|ahollan1: Austria was seat of much innovation in bridge in the 1930s|pg|| nt|riccho: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honor_point_count|pg|| nt|ahollan1: should mention NS leads are Slawinski hi = odd without honor or even with honor|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s4|pc|sT|pc|sK|pg|| nt|ahollan1: the orginal book is online http://www.ugcs.caltech.edu/ forster/bridge/development/slawinski/|pg|| pc|h3|nt|ahollan1: warning: it is NOT an easy read |pg|| pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h6|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|dJ|pc|d5|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|s9|pc|s3|pg|| nt|ahollan1: many losing options for declarer|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|cJ|pg|| nt|Vugraphzbc: Nunes could not cover with @cK|pg|| pc|d7|pc|c3|pc|d4|nt|Vugraphzbc: because he had done a renounce on previous trick|pg|| nt|ahollan1: ahhhh|pg|| nt|Vugraphzbc: and played 2@c, so he had to play it now|pg|| nt|ahollan1: thanks Francesca|pg|| pc|dQ|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|c4|pc|h2|pg|| nt|ahollan1: operator explaining that @C2 was a penalty card -- had to be played at first opportunity|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h8|pc|c8|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|d6|pc|hT|pc|c7|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c2|st||md|4SK62H3D5CKT987432,SQJ98HAQ2DT942C65,S543HKJ975DAQ63CJ,SAT7HT864DKJ87CAQ|sv|n|mb|1N|mb|3C|mb|d|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s2|pc|sQ|pc|s3|pc|s7|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d6|pc|d7|pc|d5|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|dJ|pc|c2|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|s8|pc|s4|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sK|pc|s9|pc|s5|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|h4|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|c5|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c6|pc|h5|pc|cA|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o3|st||md|1S9HAT53DA72CAT864,SKJT2HQJ842DK63CQ,SQ84HK9DQJT954C52,SA7653H76D8CKJ973|sv|e|mb|2C!|an|10-13, 6+!c or at least 5431 distr|nt|ahollan1: 2@C = 10-13 6+@C or at least 5431 dist|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 3rd seat those restrictions are relaxed |pg|| mb|d|nt|granguru: hi all|pg|| nt|ahollan1: if you read Bill Jacobs' book, Fantunes Revealed you'll see that he LOVES the 2-level bids|pg|| nt|ahollan1: welcome John|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: loud and clear Richard|pg|| nt|granguru: a xx would show here the same as the usual made at the one level in natural bidding that is 10+|pg|| mb|p|nt|granguru: 2@d would have been Natural NF|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|ahollan1: assuming this is ducked -- then @SJ??|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|c4|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dQ|pc|d8|pc|d2|pg|| nt|ahollan1: @D??|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2@C-P-2@D would be a relay maybe that still holds true after DBL|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|h7|pc|dA|pc|d6|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hJ|pc|hK|nt|ahollan1: or just anticipating partner has short @D so stop low|pg|| pc|h6|pg|| pc|h9|pc|s3|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg|| pc|s9|nt|riccho: http://bridgewithdan.com/systems/Fantoni_Nunes.txt|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i see Dan updated his document last week -- not sure which changes he made|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cA|nt|granguru: there were just minimal changes|pg|| pc|h4|pc|c5|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dK|pc|d4|pc|s5|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|s7|pc|c6|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h8|pc|d5|mc|7|pg|| qx|c3|st||md|1S9HAT53DA72CAT864,SKJT2HQJ842DK63CQ,SQ84HK9DQJT954C52,SA7653H76D8CKJ973|sv|e|mb|2C|mb|d|mb|r|mb|p|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s9|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg|| pc|s5|pc|c4|pc|sK|pc|s4|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s8|pc|s3|pc|h3|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d9|pc|d8|pc|d2|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|c6|pc|cQ|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o4|st||md|2SK875HJ2DAT8C9876,STHT973DKQ532CJ43,SAJ43H86DJ764CKQT,SQ962HAKQ54D9CA52|sv|b|nt|granguru: he always says so...he had an error in 1@C 1@H (@s) 1@S 2@D saying it was trf to @S and it is trf to @H for instance.|pg|| mb|p|nt|cumino: Hi all|pg|| mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|3H!|an|3-7|nt|ahollan1: 1@H = (9)10-16 HCP, 5+suit |pg|| mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 3@H = preempt, 3-7 HCP, fav=random a) 5+fit b) 4-fit w/shortness|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|h2|nt|granguru: in general, over two level openings responses after X are normally natural nonF suits. XX shows 10+, support is preemtive|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h6|pc|hA|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d4|pg|| pc|c9|nt|ahollan1: must waste one trump for entry to dummy|pg|| pc|c3|nt|ahollan1: so only 1 @S ruff|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c2|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c4|pg|| nt|granguru: this contract could have been defeated by a @C lead|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hJ|pc|h7|nt|cumino: Now he makes. 3@D 1 ruff A@C 5@H|pg|| pc|h8|pg|| pc|h4|pc|c7|pc|h9|pc|s3|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d6|pc|c5|pc|d8|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d7|pc|s2|pc|dT|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dJ|pc|h5|nt|ahollan1: will establish extra trick in @D|pg|| pc|s5|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s7|pc|sT|pc|sA|pg|| nt|granguru: or by a @S lead and a @C change|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|hQ|pc|c8|pc|cJ|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c4|st||md|2SK875HJ2DAT8C9876,STHT973DKQ532CJ43,SAJ43H86DJ764CKQT,SQ962HAKQ54D9CA52|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h2|nt|panosk: hello all|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h6|pc|hA|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d4|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c3|pc|cT|pc|cA|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hJ|pc|h7|pc|h8|pg|| mc|11|nt|panosk: is that right?|pg|| nt|grebrof: hi all|pg|| pg|| qx|o5|st||md|3SH9852D87432CA832,SA7632HAT743DTC97,SKQJ95HQJD95CK654,ST84HK6DAKQJ6CQJT|sv|n|mb|1N|an|12-14|nt|ahollan1: all 5422 opened opened 12-14 1N except (54) @H & @S|pg|| mb|d|mb|2C!|an|!d|nt|granguru: EW can make an easy 3NT|pg|| nt|ahollan1: DBL = penalty 2@C = 5+@D|pg|| mb|3S|an|5/5|nt|granguru: well on the last one if @SA and E ducks @CK declarer still makes 4@H|pg|| nt|granguru: EW on the way to a bad contract|pg|| mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|granguru: as said E had too much information|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: New Zealand has an annual Rubber Bridge tournament|pg|| pc|d9|nt|ahollan1: i'm a bit jeaous :)|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|dT|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i loved playing rubber bridge|pg|| nt|granguru: the correct Slavinski lead is low from 9x and less|pg|| nt|ahollan1: original -- not 4-deal|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d3|pc|c7|pc|d5|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d4|pc|c9|nt|ahollan1: 4-deal aka Chicago|pg|| pc|s5|pg|| pc|sK|nt|ahollan1: John is that still true when partner shows length?|pg|| pc|s4|pc|c2|pc|sA|pg|| nt|granguru: probably not..not sure about it|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hJ|pc|hK|pc|h2|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i was scrambling madly to find it when you typed your comment :)|pg|| nt|granguru: Belladonna Avarelli constructed the roman leads and signals some 60 years ago |pg|| pc|h6|pc|h9|pc|hA|pc|hQ|pg|| nt|ahollan1: found it "in partner's suit low = odd hi=even"|pg|| nt|granguru: and made a difference of when they led their own suit and when it was partner's|pg|| pc|hT|nt|granguru: so standard when it is partner's|pg|| pc|c4|pc|d6|pc|h5|pg|| pc|h7|pc|c5|pc|s8|pc|h8|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c3|pc|s2|nt|ahollan1: fantunes do a pretty good job of describing their leads in their convention card|pg|| pc|c6|pg|| pc|h4|nt|cumino: In CR W played 3NT. Lead K@S There are 8 tricks and to guess @H. The movie doesn't show well|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|cJ|nt|ahollan1: in the section on leads + page in supplemental notes|pg|| nt|granguru: the definition gives some doubts when one has made a T/O double..then a suit bid by partner's doubler is his suit |pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c5|st||md|3SH9852D87432CA832,SA7632HAT743DTC97,SKQJ95HQJD95CK654,ST84HK6DAKQJ6CQJT|sv|n|mb|1S|mb|2D|mb|p|nt|grebrof: last segment here - winners will get the bronzemedals|pg|| mb|2H|nt|grebrof: Ireland with a mountain to climb|pg|| nt|panosk: Hi Espen|pg|| mb|p|mb|2S|nt|grebrof: hi Panos|pg|| mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|c2|pc|s2|pg|| nt|panosk: yes seems this match is prety much going the Monaco way|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s8|pc|c3|pc|s3|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sT|pc|c8|nt|grebrof: not sure this is the last segment - website says 8 segments while bbo says 5/5|pg|| pc|sA|pg|| pc|h3|nt|panosk: we still can have a lot of fun as players will try some aggressive contracts I expect|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hK|pc|h2|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|dT|pc|d5|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d3|pc|c7|pc|d9|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d4|pc|h4|nt|grebrof: the state of the match normally produces gambles, sure|pg|| pc|c4|pg|| nt|panosk: 8 sets is for the final only for sure, I thought this wud be 6 sets but let me check|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o6|st||md|4SHJ4DAJ532CKJT953,S63HAQ862DT74CQ87,SAKQT7542HKT7D6C2,SJ98H953DKQ98CA64|sv|e|nt|granguru: but when taking a choice from 2 suits offered it is the suit of the offerent, not of the one who bid it|pg|| mb|p|mb|2C!|an|10-13, 6+!C or at least 5431 dist|nt|ahollan1: Sweden has picked up 14 imps this set now leading Poland by 97|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2@C = 10-13, 6+@C or at least 5431 dist|pg|| mb|2D!|an|RELAY 3+!H/!S, INV+ maybe weak 4+!h4+!s|mb|p|mb|3D!|an|at least 6/4|nt|granguru: some rounds ago Fantoni with @SQx54 led the 4, not sure why.|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2@D = RELAY 3+@H/@S, INV+ but maybe weak 4+@H 4+@S|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 3@D denies 3@H/@S not sure how exact dist is known now|pg|| mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|nt|cumino: 3@D should be 64 or 65. With 4@D 5@C they open 1@D or 1NT|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|granguru: 2@D is an invitational relay asking for 3 cards in a major|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d6|pg|| nt|granguru: 3@D shows 6@C and 4+@D and a maximum hand.|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dT|pc|s7|pc|d8|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s8|pc|c3|pc|s3|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s9|pc|c5|pc|s6|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sJ|pc|d3|pc|h2|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c4|nt|ahollan1: i should have opened my notes from Bill Jacobs' book -- would have beaten John to the correct explanation|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c7|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|h3|pg|| pc|c8|pc|s2|pc|c6|pc|c9|pg|| pc|sT|pc|h5|pc|d5|nt|granguru: :)|pg|| nt|granguru: tell|pg|| pc|d7|pg|| pc|s5|pc|h9|pc|cT|pc|h6|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|c6|st||md|4SHJ4DAJ532CKJT953,S63HAQ862DT74CQ87,SAKQT7542HKT7D6C2,SJ98H953DKQ98CA64|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|nt|panosk: been told it is the last set in this match indeed, BBO operator was very right |pg|| nt|grebrof: I think 1nt shows @cs here - otherwise a quite strange 1nt|pg|| nt|panosk: indeed |pg|| mb|4C|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|grebrof: N interested in slam opposite useful controls in Ss hand|pg|| pc|dK|nt|panosk: notice with 5@D and 6@C S opened 1@D to be able to have rebids and not reverse shud he open 1@C|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d6|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|s2|pc|d8|pg|| nt|grebrof: I agree that that hand is not a reverse|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s8|pc|c3|pc|s3|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s9|pc|c5|pc|s6|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sJ|pc|c9|pc|h6|pg|| nt|panosk: it applies to all 5-6 hands especially when the 5 card suit is a major|pg|| mc|11|nt|grebrof: normally with a minimum hand or a hand without a certain amount of aces, its better to open the higher suit|pg|| nt|panosk: 1d is limited to 16 pts max|pg|| pg|| qx|o7|st||md|1SAQTHAK2D742CAQT4,SK7HQ8743DA5CJ762,SJ9532HJDQJ986C85,S864HT965DKT3CK93|sv|b|nt|granguru: I think Bill Jacobs made personal adjustments so it is not 100% Fantunes original|pg|| mb|1C|an|14+unbal or 15+bal (except 21-22 bal)|mb|1H|mb|d|an|4+!s|mb|2H|nt|ahollan1: 1@C = 14+ unbal or 15+ bal [except 21-22 bal = 2N]|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|2N|an|no 4!s|mb|p|mb|3D|nt|ahollan1: DBL = 4+@S|pg|| mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: note Nunes DBL is NOT Support DBL 3-fit is just coincidence|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|cumino: 3NT can make on lead x@H, but now he will bid 3@S probably |pg|| pc|h9|pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|s2|pc|s6|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|s3|pc|s4|pg|| nt|ahollan1: other table bidding board 13|pg|| nt|ahollan1: Sweden 25-0 thru 6 leads Poland by 108|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|c5|nt|granguru: even a @D lead would have given a ruff the @Sk would have been remained singleton and declarer could have recovered guessing right|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hK|pg|| pc|sT|pc|c2|pc|s5|pc|s8|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d5|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pg|| nt|cumino: In CR played South. He had the "favourable " lead @H winning with J@H. Unfortunately he played finesse in @S and W found the @D ruff|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c7|st||md|1SAQTHAK2D742CAQT4,SK7HQ8743DA5CJ762,SJ9532HJDQJ986C85,S864HT965DKT3CK93|sv|b|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|3N|nt|panosk: a little upgrade here quite reasonable with 2 tens|pg|| mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h3|pc|hJ|pc|h6|pc|h2|pg|| nt|panosk: declarer will play spades as fast as he can to avoid a possible ruff in @D|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|sT|pc|sK|pg|| nt|panosk: he can afford to lose 2@D and a @S|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d3|pc|d2|pg|| pc|d5|nt|grebrof: well, he did, but...|pg|| pc|d8|pc|dK|pc|d4|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d7|pc|s7|pc|d9|pg|| nt|panosk: easier from here though to see|pg|| mc|9|nt|grebrof: indeed|pg|| pg|| qx|o8|st||md|2S74HQT86DJT8CK876,SQ65HAK97D95CQT54,SAJ98HJ2DAQ43CA32,SKT32H543DK762CJ9|sv|o|nt|ahollan1: is this first time Sweden in finals of team championship since 1950??|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: curious 108 imp lead in championship and playoff|pg|| nt|granguru: yes|pg|| mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1D|an|4!h|nt|ahollan1: not the 15+ bal version of 1@C|pg|| mb|p|mb|1N|an|no 4!H, possible 4!s|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1@D = 0-11 HCP, 4+@H|pg|| mb|p|nt|hedyg: http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Lille.12/microSite/RunningScores/ASP/knockoutphaseconditstatMultievColours.asp?qtournid=936&qtournid2=937&qtournid3=938&qphase=FF|pg|| pc|h5|nt|granguru: from 1951 till 1975 they were mostly finals between USA and Italy|pg|| nt|hedyg: if you are experiencing problems with hearing voice commentary please do read this thread and maybe add your comments: http://www.bridgebase.com/forums/topic/53443-problems-with-vg-voice-commentary/|pg|| nt|granguru: some years Poland Iceland chinese Taipei and france were there but not frequently|pg|| nt|Vugraphzbc: @HYou can find an interview to the Irish Pair McGann-Hallon on www.fulviofantoni.com (Fulvio Fantoni's official webpage|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h7|pc|hJ|pg|| nt|ahollan1: and history of world championships www.usbf.org|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|dJ|nt|ahollan1: not fair Francesca -- Hedy said YOU did the interview|pg|| pc|d5|pg|| nt|Vugraphzbc: In fact I wrote that "you can find an interview" :)|pg|| nt|granguru: Poland was world champion once (Miami Olympiad), germany also once 1990, Iceland also once (relay system) China was second twice|pg|| nt|Vugraphzbc: my interview is published on Fulvio Fantoni's website www.fulviofantoni.com|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d9|nt|ahollan1: yes Poland won this event in 1984 when it was called the Team Olympiad|pg|| nt|granguru: 1@D =4+@h 0-9|pg|| pc|dA|nt|granguru: 1NT= nat 1NT|pg|| pc|d6|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dK|pc|dT|nt|ahollan1: i.e. WMSG formerly Team Olympiad|pg|| pc|s5|pg|| pc|h4|nt|ahollan1: Beijing 2008 was 1st time using name WMSG|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hK|pc|h2|pg|| nt|granguru: making 1NT will be 5 more IMPs|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i'm reminded of the movie "They Shoot Horses, Don't They"|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s4|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d7|pc|c6|pc|c5|pg|| pc|c2|nt|granguru: and the round is starting to look like 3 times before in this tournaments....only that today is not so critical as it was on the others|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cK|pc|c4|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s6|pc|s9|pc|sT|pg|| nt|ahollan1: I thought Fitzgibbon would open 1@D|pg|| pc|sK|pc|c7|pc|cT|pc|s8|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h8|pc|h9|mc|7|pg|| qx|c8|st||md|2S74HQT86DJT8CK876,SQ65HAK97D95CQT54,SAJ98HJ2DAQ43CA32,SKT32H543DK762CJ9|sv|o|mb|1C|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|panosk: remember the players are humans like us and they have been "tortured" with 16-17 days of relentless playing|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c6|pc|c4|pc|c3|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c7|pc|c5|pc|cA|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|hT|nt|grebrof: even these players have a higher percentage of mistakes the longer an event lasts - and for some, its not that long ago since the Spingold, so especially Monaco will look forward ...|pg|| nt|grebrof: to a rest soon|pg|| pc|h7|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d5|pc|d3|pc|dK|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h4|pc|h6|pc|hK|pg|| nt|grebrof: with best defense, there are only 6 tricks here|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s8|nt|panosk: @H honors being in the same hand makes it a bit easier for defence|pg|| mc|5|pg|| qx|o9|st||md|3SJT62H9D9763CKQ94,SAQ874HAJT4DAKQC7,SK93HKQ62DJT4CJ52,S5H8753D852CAT863|sv|e|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: but BAL needs 17-20 JP [A=5 T=1] and he only had 16|pg|| mb|1C|nt|ahollan1: 1@C=a) unbal 17+ HCP, often upgrade 16 unbal w/5+ suit b) BAL, 25+ jp 18+ hcp |pg|| mb|p|mb|1D!|an|0-6|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1@D=0-6(bal:7)|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1@S = NF 4+suit, canape possible if 17-18 HCP|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|nt|granguru: only match which looks unclear is Women's Poland France 137 102 after board 6|pg|| nt|ahollan1: strange to see combination of 4+ and NON-Force|pg|| mb|3H|nt|ahollan1: 1N = 4-6|pg|| nt|cumino: 4@S in CR after 1NT South opening. |pg|| nt|ahollan1: i thought 3@H was supposed to be 5+ 5+|pg|| mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dJ|nt|cumino: Should make, good for Ireland|pg|| nt|ahollan1: very bizarre auction in other room|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|dK|pg|| nt|ahollan1: other room is bidding final board of the match|pg|| nt|grebrof: they already finished|pg|| nt|granguru: hard time for declarer with all major cards off|pg|| nt|granguru: NS lead natural from honor sequences|pg|| nt|ahollan1: McGann's 1N on south cards was very effective -- but don't show it to your children|pg|| nt|granguru: not rusinow|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s5|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s9|pc|h3|pc|s6|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d6|pc|dA|pc|d4|pg|| nt|granguru: S showed 4@s so N can duck|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sK|pc|h7|pc|sT|pg|| nt|granguru: looks like first IMPs for Ireland here|pg|| nt|granguru: 11 Imps coming soon|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h9|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|h8|pc|c4|pg|| nt|granguru: mmmm|pg|| nt|ahollan1: in seniors thru 9 Hungary over USA by 49|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c9|st||md|3SJT62H9D9763CKQ94,SAQ874HAJT4DAKQC7,SK93HKQ62DJT4CJ52,S5H8753D852CAT863|sv|e|nt|grebrof: did I miscount?|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|nt|panosk: no apperently Helgemo made 3@H tricks|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|nt|panosk: well deserved for a great play to duck 1st @H trick|pg|| mb|2C|mb|p|nt|grebrof: with 2@s and 1 @c + 1@d thats 7|pg|| mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dT|pc|d2|nt|grebrof: Im asked if S opened 1nt with 6hp - looks that way :)|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dA|pg|| nt|panosk: im trying to see if im seeing right too :)|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|s5|pc|s6|pg|| pc|h9|nt|grebrof: a 3rdhand nonvul is frequently psyche among experts|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|h3|pg|| nt|panosk: it worked|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d5|pc|d9|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c4|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cK|pc|s7|pc|c5|pg|| nt|grebrof: if you psyche, you should not alert - then I would have to alert most my bids, because they are sometimes not what they appear|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dJ|pc|d8|pc|d3|pg|| pc|s8|nt|panosk: you shud say so in your cc though|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o10|st||md|4SQ43HQT42D96CK653,SJ7H9DKT432CAQT98,SAKT652H85DA87C74,S98HAKJ763DQJ5CJ2|sv|b|nt|granguru: 12 they were vul|pg|| mb|1H|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: and our other table has finished play|pg|| mb|1N|mb|2S|nt|ahollan1: 1N = Semi-F, 6-12 HCP|pg|| mb|p|mb|3S|nt|ahollan1: SHOCK fantunes finishes behind helgemo-helness|pg|| nt|ahollan1: actually i'm told Fitzgibbon also known to be .... deliberate|pg|| nt|ahollan1: right Richard -- other room speed demons|pg|| nt|james_h: I heard Zimmerman pays FN more so they are obliged to try harder(longer)|pg|| nt|granguru: W didnt had time to show his 2suited hand..now is a risky decision but 4@d is a good contract|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: Women thru 9 England over Russia by 54|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|cumino: Fulvio is not exactly known as the Usain Bolt of bridge |pg|| pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|h9|pc|h5|pg|| nt|granguru: well it is amazing the stamina the whole team show on the long matches|pg|| nt|ahollan1: EW udca so impossible to falsecard|pg|| pc|s9|nt|ahollan1: oops standard carding|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s7|pc|sT|pg|| nt|granguru: and when they are behind they fight even stronger|pg|| nt|riccho: gerne|pg|| pc|h8|nt|riccho: sry fc|pg|| nt|ahollan1: duck seems best -- and show @D pref|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hQ|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d8|pc|dJ|pc|d6|pg|| pc|s8|nt|granguru: on the match against Sweden there were 2 slams with bad results for Monaco...one was @DK singleton behind and the other they tried 7 suspecting an A outside, which depended on a lead, correctly made (so -1). But so you see how much they try |pg|| pc|s4|nt|ahollan1: maybe @D shift so obvious didn't bother signalling with @H7|pg|| pc|c8|nt|granguru: to win mo matter how hard it can be|pg|| pc|sK|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d9|pc|d2|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dQ|pc|sQ|pc|d4|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c10|st||md|4SQ43HQT42D96CK653,SJ7H9DKT432CAQT98,SAKT652H85DA87C74,S98HAKJ763DQJ5CJ2|sv|b|nt|panosk: but i dont think HH will call TD for that |pg|| mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|2S|mb|p|nt|grebrof: yes, normally it says so at the frontpage for 3rdhand openings - other than that I never have agreements with my partners for other situations, so there is no reason to make it ...|pg|| nt|grebrof: official|pg|| mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|grebrof: everyone had something here|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s7|pc|sK|pc|s9|pg|| nt|grebrof: except S - who apparently bid enough last deal|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s8|pc|s4|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|h5|nt|grebrof: looks like one off|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h9|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d6|pc|d2|pc|dA|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hK|pc|h4|nt|panosk: 2@S, 2@H and a @d |pg|| pc|c8|pg|| nt|grebrof: Helness not aware that the finesse in @cs is on|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d9|pc|d3|pc|d7|pg|| pc|d5|mc|8|nt|panosk: doesnt need it after A@D was taken |pg|| nt|grebrof: so, this line if safer than take the finesse in @cs|pg|| pg|| qx|o11|st||md|1SJT83HKT64DK6C982,S742HAQDAJT8CJ743,SAK965H987DQ5CKQ5,SQHJ532D97432CAT6|sv|o|mb|p|nt|james_h: the 7@h came after the 6@d (late in the match) and I suspect Nunes was pushing |pg|| mb|1D|nt|ahollan1: 2+@D|pg|| mb|1S|mb|d|nt|granguru: if they would have succeded the result of the match could have been different. The @DK slam was a swing of 25 IMPs only. The grand was another 28 IMPs, if I am not wrong.|pg|| mb|3C|nt|ahollan1: EW play Precision the other Irish pairs Carrot Club where 1@C = 11-13 BAL or 17+|pg|| mb|p|nt|granguru: (losing 15 instead of winning 13)|pg|| mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|granguru: how much is their NT opening? 12-14?|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d6|pc|dT|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|sA|pc|sQ|pc|s3|pc|s2|pg|| nt|ahollan1: their CC just says artificial bids after overcalls|pg|| nt|cumino: Good evaluation of Fulvio. |pg|| pc|s5|pc|d3|pc|sJ|pc|s4|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s7|pc|s9|pc|d2|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h5|nt|granguru: as usual|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c2|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c8|pc|c3|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h2|pc|h6|pc|hA|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c5|pc|c6|pc|c9|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d4|pc|dK|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c11|st||md|1SJT83HKT64DK6C982,S742HAQDAJT8CJ743,SAK965H987DQ5CKQ5,SQHJ532D97432CAT6|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1S|mb|d|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d2|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d5|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cK|pc|cA|nt|panosk: seems like they all want to get done with this set|pg|| pc|c2|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c8|pc|c3|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|sA|pc|sQ|pc|s3|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s5|pc|d3|pc|sT|pc|s4|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s7|pc|s6|pc|d4|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d8|pc|dQ|pc|d7|pg|| nt|grebrof: I dont think that Irelands hopes were too high before this set + HH always plays very fast|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o12|st||md|2SQ64HA6543DATCQ74,SAT975H2DJ85CJ953,SJ83HQT98DK732C86,SK2HKJ7DQ964CAKT2|sv|n|nt|granguru: a push|pg|| mb|2S!|nt|ahollan1: 2@S = (5)6-suit, 4-10(11) HCP, 1st/3rd nv maybe 5 otherwise rare 10-11 = bal|pg|| mb|p|nt|granguru: a pretty weak opening profiting from vulnerability|pg|| mb|2N!|mb|p|mb|3C!|nt|ahollan1: Richard just mentioning the IBPA Book of the Year by Roy Hughes on Competitive Bidding|pg|| nt|ahollan1: IBPA = International Bridge Press Association|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 3@C=(5)6-suit, (3)4-7 HCP|pg|| mb|p|nt|riccho: "The Contested Auction" available even as an ebook (for kindle eg)|pg|| mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|eamongall: that slowed Adam Mesbur down alot |pg|| mb|p|nt|granguru: -1 probably|pg|| pc|c6|nt|granguru: on a @D lead it is fast...on a @C declarer might not give the @D ruff|pg|| nt|ahollan1: along with their CC EW submitted a 2nd file with 40+ pages of system notes|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|c5|pg|| nt|granguru: but can lose 3@D tricks if he errs guessing @H|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|s5|pc|s3|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|sA|pc|s8|pg|| nt|granguru: there is also a possible endplay here|pg|| nt|ahollan1: only people who have no lives read those extra notes|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sJ|nt|riccho: hehe|pg|| pc|d4|nt|ahollan1: i don't want to mention any names -- but one keeps showing up in my mirror|pg|| pc|sQ|pg|| nt|granguru: the extra system notes are asked by the WBF for this kind of matches|pg|| nt|granguru: S is endplayed|pg|| nt|ahollan1: none of the vugraph matches are close|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d2|pc|d6|pg|| pc|dT|nt|granguru: could hace thrown @SQ on the beforelast trick...but who does it?|pg|| pc|d8|pc|dK|pc|dQ|pg|| nt|granguru: could have*|pg|| nt|ahollan1: women: England over Russia by 54 seniors: Hungary over USA by 57|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg|| pc|h3|pc|s7|pc|h8|nt|ahollan1: championship: Sweden over Poland by 96|pg|| nt|granguru: so -1 |pg|| pc|h7|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d3|pc|d9|pc|h4|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c8|mc|8|pg|| qx|c12|st||md|2SQ64HA6543DATCQ74,SAT975H2DJ85CJ953,SJ83HQT98DK732C86,SK2HKJ7DQ964CAKT2|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|nt|panosk: its still summer out there |pg|| mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|grebrof: well - maybe not faster than beginners, but still they are a lot faster than Fantunes - the other day they started 15min later and finished 6 boards ahead|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c3|pc|c8|nt|panosk: i was watching that too|pg|| pc|cT|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|s5|pc|s3|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|sA|pc|s8|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sJ|pc|d4|pc|sQ|pg|| nt|panosk: S doesnt have a safe lead so he tried what he thought to be the least costly|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cJ|pc|c6|pc|c2|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d2|pc|d6|pc|dA|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d5|pc|d3|pc|d9|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o13|st||md|3SAHA864D87CQJT975,S65432HJ5DQ95432C,SQJTHKQ2DKJT6CAK8,SK987HT973DAC6432|sv|b|nt|granguru: W played @Hk because a discard on a @H will not be sufficient to throw 2 @Cs |pg|| nt|ahollan1: i doubt Monaco will be happy with Bronze -- but congratulations to them anyway|pg|| mb|1C|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|nt|cumino: 2@c GF|pg|| mb|2D|nt|ahollan1: 2@C = 5+ suit, FG|pg|| mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4C|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: i think all 2-level responses deny 5332|pg|| mb|4N|mb|p|mb|6C|nt|ahollan1: 4N = Turbo even number of keycards|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: i think 5m(332) = 1N|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|c3|pc|c5|pc|d2|pc|cA|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|c7|pc|d3|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c4|pc|c9|nt|cumino: Now after 4-0 Q@D on side seems the best chance|pg|| pc|s3|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|s4|pc|d6|pc|c6|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d4|pc|dJ|pc|dA|pg|| nt|granguru: claim time|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|c13|st||md|3SAHA864D87CQJT975,S65432HJ5DQ95432C,SQJTHKQ2DKJT6CAK8,SK987HT973DAC6432|sv|b|mb|2N|mb|p|nt|panosk: 6@C on|pg|| mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|4C|mb|p|nt|grebrof: many times hard having both a major and a long minor vs 2nt - 2nt sort of preempts you in the bidding|pg|| mb|4N|mb|p|nt|grebrof: 3nt denying a major - not sure I like Ns 4nt, but having honurs all scattered its probably the best bid|pg|| nt|panosk: whats 4NT you think? |pg|| nt|grebrof: I think it is a sort of desire to play there|pg|| nt|panosk: thought also too|pg|| nt|panosk: although 4@S might be also saying that|pg|| mb|6C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|grebrof: here the 4@c bid might be sort of a seek after which minor N has|pg|| pc|d3|nt|panosk: yes so many alternatives i cant see which is on |pg|| nt|grebrof: in that case N might could have bid 4@d - or it is a natural slamtry|pg|| nt|panosk: this lead will bring S home |pg|| nt|grebrof: maybe|pg|| nt|grebrof: S has 2 chances|pg|| nt|grebrof: so, should make|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dA|pc|d7|pg|| mc|12|nt|panosk: play the 10@D, draw trumps, cash @H in case 3-3 will vlaim and then try finess of Q@D|pg|| pg|| qx|o14|st||md|4S98HT763D72CQJ983,SK652HAQ8DAQ86C75,SAJT3H92DT53CAKT2,SQ74HKJ54DKJ94C64|sv|o|nt|cumino: It was more complcated with @C 2-2 :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2S|nt|granguru: 3NT might go -2|pg|| nt|cumino: Not as are laying the cards, obviously|pg|| mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cA|nt|ahollan1: just saw a note saying rooms for Seniors Hungary v USA were opened incorrectly and USA actually has 10 more imps than showing|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c3|pc|c5|pg|| nt|granguru: 1 more|pg|| nt|granguru: round|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c6|pc|cJ|pc|c7|pg|| pc|c8|pc|d6|pc|cK|pc|s4|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|s8|pc|s2|pg|| pc|cT|mc|7|pg|| qx|c14|st||md|4S98HT763D72CQJ983,SK652HAQ8DAQ86C75,SAJT3H92DT53CAKT2,SQ74HKJ54DKJ94C64|sv|o|nt|panosk: *claim|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|d|nt|panosk: in board 7 Fantoni played A@S , spade and he made 4@S so 12 imps to Monaco|pg|| mb|3D|nt|grebrof: I feel I am not overexcited about the result in this match :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|4D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|panosk: its a bronze medal noone is happy playing here instead of the final|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|c3|pc|c5|pg|| nt|panosk: still great performance by Ireland so far|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c6|nt|grebrof: I am sure I rather have a medal than not, but I am sure they would rather be in the finale|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c7|pg|| nt|panosk: they overcame some very tough opponents|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h4|pc|h7|pc|hA|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|d2|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d5|nt|panosk: Monaco shudnt be very on the other hand as they were 1 of the favorites|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d7|pg|| nt|panosk: *very content|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|c9|pc|d8|pc|dT|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h3|pc|hQ|nt|grebrof: looking at their results the last year, they were the favorites - but, it wasnt to be this time - Sweden did very well against them and they are also doing well in the finale|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o15|st||md|1SHAT96DKT754CK974,SAQJ9742HK532D8C3,SKT83H4DAJ9632CJ6,S65HQJ87DQCAQT852|sv|n|mb|2D|nt|ahollan1: 10-13 hcp 6+@D or at least 5431 dist|pg|| nt|granguru: this is the last segment of the match.. there is one more vugraph session today |pg|| mb|4S|nt|granguru: final match is 8 rounds long. 3rd place is only 5.|pg|| mb|5D|mb|5S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|nt|ahollan1: playing strength of NS hand reminds me of hand in Blue Team Club Book showing grand slam cold on 5 HCP|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dA|pc|dQ|pc|d4|pc|d8|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|c3|pg|| nt|ahollan1: @CQ for -2 seems unlikely play|pg|| nt|ahollan1: probably -3 here|pg|| pc|s5|pc|d5|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pg|| nt|ahollan1: did he take @SK too early?|pg|| nt|granguru: y a classic hand with @DAxxxxxx @DJxxxx and making A 10 cross ruffs to establish 2 more tricks..|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|s2|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s6|nt|granguru: 9 cross ruffs and 3 more tricks...|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c15|st||md|1SHAT96DKT754CK974,SAQJ9742HK532D8C3,SKT83H4DAJ9632CJ6,S65HQJ87DQCAQT852|sv|n|nt|panosk: and a link to all matches latest results here|pg|| mb|1D|mb|4S|nt|panosk: http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Lille.12/microSite/RunningScores/ASP/knockoutphaseconditstatMultievColours.asp?qtournid=936&qtournid2=937&qtournid3=938&qphase=FF|pg|| mb|5D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c3|nt|grebrof: this is an easy hand :)|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cA|pc|c4|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|d8|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s5|pc|d4|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o16|st||md|2S852H765DAK2CJT53,SAQJ9HT8DT853CK98,S43HAQJ32DQ9764CQ,SKT76HK94DJCA7642|sv|e|nt|granguru: and we are coming to the last hand|pg|| nt|ahollan1: that may cost Monaco ... a triple digit win|pg|| nt|ahollan1: grazie Francesca!|pg|| nt|Vugraphzbc: :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|granguru: Ireland went --2 in 3@H|pg|| mb|d|nt|ahollan1: (9)10-13 hcp 6+@H or at least 5431 [not 4@S]|pg|| mb|p|mb|4S|nt|ahollan1: next set starts in 55 minutes|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dA|nt|ahollan1: i believe there will one match from transnational mixed|pg|| nt|ahollan1: but don't quote me|pg|| nt|granguru: good contract |pg|| pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|dK|nt|ahollan1: if not just blame al|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d6|pc|s7|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c3|pc|c8|pc|cQ|pg|| nt|ahollan1: congratulations to Ireland for getting to the semi-finals|pg|| nt|eamongall: hurray|pg|| nt|ahollan1: they just hit a juggernaut in the playoff|pg|| nt|Vugraphzbc: and here is the interview to McGANN-HANLON (Irish pair) made by me: :) www.fulviofantoni.com|pg|| nt|ahollan1: Eamon a totally unbiased opinion :)|pg|| nt|eamongall: and Poland was a pretty large truck as well to stand out in front of |pg|| nt|granguru: Yes it was a great success for Irish Bridge|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|h5|nt|eamongall: AL I took it as that :) |pg|| pc|h8|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|h6|pc|hT|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s2|pc|sJ|pc|s3|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d9|pc|sK|pc|d2|pg|| nt|eamongall: Now I missed a trick |pg|| pc|sT|pc|s5|pc|sQ|nt|Vugraphzbc: ouch Fulvio revoke this time|pg|| pc|s4|pg|| pc|sA|pc|h2|mc|9|nt|Vugraphzbc: ok :)|pg|| nt|Vugraphzbc: bye :) @H|pg|| pg|| qx|c16|st||md|2S852H765DAK2CJT53,SAQJ9HT8DT853CK98,S43HAQJ32DQ9764CQ,SKT76HK94DJCA7642|sv|e|mb|p|nt|panosk: play out match are in their last set, |pg|| mb|1H|mb|p|nt|panosk: that is the matches for bronze medal|pg|| mb|2H|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dJ|nt|panosk: later on will be broadcasted 4 finals and 1 transnational PO|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d4|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h8|pc|hJ|pc|hK|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s2|pc|sJ|pc|s3|pg|| nt|grebrof: nice defense here|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s4|pc|sT|pc|s5|pg|| nt|panosk: later on is in 1hour and 50 min aprox|pg|| nt|grebrof: or?|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s8|pc|sQ|pc|h2|pg|| mc|7|nt|grebrof: the @d return from W would have been better|pg|| nt|grebrof: ok, thank you|pg|| nt|panosk: as this plays out I wud like to conglatulate all teams that have managed to reach this stage, wd to all|pg|| nt|grebrof: the open room still has some action for you in this match :)|pg|| nt|panosk: we have to thank Espen for his insight and comments|pg|| nt|panosk: our great operator for a job well done|pg|| nt|panosk: and all of you for watching and helping with your ideas and suggestions|pg|| nt|panosk: have a nice afternoon |pg|| nt|panosk: we will be back in 1h and 45 min|pg|| pg||