vg|BBO1-2nd Mind Sports Games,O-F-1_6,I,1,16,POLAND,0,SWEDEN,0| rs|5CE+1,4SNx=,1NW-2,1NW-1,2DE-1,1HS=,1NW=,1NE=,3NW+1,3NW=,1NNx-1,1DS-2,1NS=,1NS=,4CS=,4HE+1,1NS=,1NN-1,3NN=,3NN=,4HN-1,4HN=,4CE+1,2DS-1,5SNx-3,5HEx-1,4SS+2,6CS-1,3HN-1,2HN=,3NN-2,3NS-2| pn|ZMUDZINSKI,NYSTROM,BALICKI,UPMARK,PETERSSON,ZAK,AHLESVED,ZAREMBA|pg|| qx|o1|st||md|3SQJ752HTDAJT432C4,SHAQJ85D986CJT973,SA8643H97642DQCQ8,SKT9HK3DK75CAK652|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1N|nt|cumino: Good morning|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 1N good 14-17|pg|| nt|ahollan1: NS play Polish Club multi-purpose forcing 1@C, strong NT|pg|| nt|ahollan1: EW 1@C=2+ w/transfer responses|pg|| mb|d|nt|kiwibridge: great start for the Swedes CR|pg|| nt|ahollan1: DBL = 5/4 @H & @S or 5M 4+m|pg|| nt|jillan: Hi all :)|pg|| nt|ahollan1: hi Jill|pg|| mb|r|mb|4H|mb|d|nt|ahollan1: in Seniors Chambers-Schermer went for 1400 in 5@SX|pg|| nt|mareczek: it is mistaken|pg|| nt|kiwibridge: US Seniors were in 5@SX by EAST, yes -1400|pg|| nt|cumino: 1NT-- double-- 2NT for someone is a bid with Nystrom cards|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i would hope so :)|pg|| nt|mareczek: 4@h is pass or correct|pg|| mb|4S|nt|mareczek: as double shows minor+ Major|pg|| nt|jillan: nt?|pg|| mb|4N|nt|jillan: 4NT?|pg|| nt|jillan: :)|pg|| nt|jillan: I know my juniors :)|pg|| mb|d|mb|5C|nt|ahollan1: Jill - what do you think of the RDBL start? was it conventional or just hoping NS were on misfit?|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|jillan: I know they are not juniors any longer|pg|| nt|kiwibridge: thats what results show at present http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Lille.12/microSite/Results.htm|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: live scores automatically pull results from BBO|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|ahollan1: bridgemate is only used for tables NOT on vugraph|pg|| nt|jillan: I am not 100% sur what RD is trying to find it in their notes|pg|| pc|c3|pc|s3|pc|s9|pg|| nt|kiwibridge: a hand where bidding 1 more was right |pg|| pc|c7|pc|c8|nt|ahollan1: both pairs upside-down count & attitude [udca]|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c4|pg|| pc|cA|pc|d2|pc|c9|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hT|pc|h5|pc|h2|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|c1|st||md|3SQJ752HTDAJT432C4,SHAQJ85D986CJT973,SA8643H97642DQCQ8,SKT9HK3DK75CAK652|sv|o|nt|ady: good morning all|pg|| mb|p|mb|1N|nt|garden2005: witam serdecznie|pg|| nt|kamyk: dzieñ dobry|pg|| nt|garden2005: mam nadziejê, ze komentarze w dwóch jêzykach nie bêd¹ przeszkadza³y nikomu|pg|| mb|2D|an|!s|nt|jbgood: good morning all:)|pg|| mb|4D|nt|ady: 6@C by east a great contract but can go down to A@D and ruff|pg|| nt|garden2005: good morning all :)|pg|| nt|ady: mixture of Polish and English here?|pg|| mb|4S|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cA|nt|lechcold: dzieñ dobry/hello:)|pg|| nt|ady: great start for Sweden this makes|pg|| nt|lechcold: mixture is OK:)|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c9|pc|c8|pg|| nt|jbgood: yes - if declarer doesnt do anything stupid (which I really doubt he will)|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hT|pc|hA|pc|h4|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|s2|pg|| nt|jbgood: this Swedish pair has really made their mark - they were more or less unknown to me before this event...|pg|| pc|s5|pc|c3|pc|sA|pc|s9|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d7|pc|d2|pc|d6|pg|| nt|lechcold: do you know why Fredin-Falellenius don't play for Sweden in this event?|pg|| nt|lechcold: pisz¹ mi tu Szwedzi, ¿e mieli w reprezentacji jakieœ ko³opty interpersonalne|pg|| nt|lechcold: k³opoty|pg|| nt|lechcold: co nie jest i nam obce|pg|| nt|jillan: hi all|pg|| nt|jbgood: HEI jILL:)|pg|| nt|odysseus69: count complete so spade 100%|pg|| nt|lechcold: powiedziano mi, ¿e Fredin publicznie stwierdzi³, ¿e nie bêdzie gra³ w tak s³abym teamie:)|pg|| nt|krish1611: :)|pg|| nt|moshel: hello every one|pg|| nt|ady: hi Moshel|pg|| nt|lechcold: potem uzna³, ¿e mo¿e jednak zagra, ale kapitan i dru¿yna podziêkowali mu za wspó³pracê:)|pg|| nt|jillan: is this the Polish speaking table?|pg|| nt|jillan: will leave then as soon as the open starts :)|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|s7|nt|odysseus69: Impossible for West to have 6 clubs and 5 hearts and defend 4 spades so spade cant be wrong|pg|| pc|c7|pg|| nt|lechcold: I think it must be mixed-language table:)|pg|| nt|jbgood: a mix really:)|pg|| pc|cK|pc|sJ|pc|cT|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d8|pc|s4|pc|d5|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sT|pc|sQ|mc|10|pg|| qx|o2|st||md|4SKQ97HJT7D93CAT32,SJ84HAK42DA5CKJ84,SA32H965DKQ864CQ6,ST65HQ83DJT72C975|sv|n|nt|ahollan1: Roland warns that we're seeing hand with 5 minute delay so spoiler alert -- don't watch the live score if you want to preserve suspense|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|jillan: promis i |pg|| pc|d6|nt|jillan: Promise I willnot look :)|pg|| nt|kiwibridge: Monaco got the same double game swing against Ireland|pg|| nt|jillan: so is it a good omen?|pg|| nt|ahollan1: also just announced by Roland 4th vugraph match of the day will ALWAYS be Seniors playoff between France & Sweden|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d9|pc|dA|pg|| nt|jillan: so Nyström needs some help from his Polish friends here|pg|| nt|ahollan1: Italy & France paid WBF to ensure all matches broadcast|pg|| nt|jillan: did they pay WBF or BBO?|pg|| nt|ahollan1: that is option for all participating nations|pg|| nt|ahollan1: WBF|pg|| nt|jillan: @DJ might have helped towards the goal|pg|| nt|ahollan1: BBO has NOTHING to do with selection of matches|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|sT|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|cQ|pc|c5|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|d5|pg|| pc|dK|nt|ahollan1: earlier there were enough commentators for 5 matches, but now only 4|pg|| pc|dT|pc|hJ|nt|ahollan1: duh operators|pg|| nt|jillan: I think we ned to wait until the rest of the world wakeup or get a minute from work|pg|| pc|h2|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s7|pc|s8|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|sK|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|s9|nt|ahollan1: all matches are playing the same boards|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c6|mc|6|pg|| qx|c2|st||md|4SKQ97HJT7D93CAT32,SJ84HAK42DA5CKJ84,SA32H965DKQ864CQ6,ST65HQ83DJT72C975|sv|n|nt|jillan: a good starting result for the Swedes|pg|| nt|ady: if 15-17 no-trump looks like 1NT passed out|pg|| mb|p|nt|moshel: yes let see what will be at other table|pg|| nt|lechcold: 5@C nam wychodzi³o, nawet ze z³ej rêki...szkoda|pg|| mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|jbgood: all finals can be followed scorewise here: http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Lille.12/microSite/RunningScores/ASP/knockoutphaseconditstatMultievColours.asp?qtourn...|pg|| nt|jbgood: id=936&qtournid2=937&qtournid3=938&qphase=FF|pg|| pc|d6|nt|odysseus69: club guess is key- |pg|| nt|jillan: I'll go check the open :) by for a while|pg|| nt|ady: this seems to be on a club guess at trick 2|pg|| nt|jbgood: better use this one and then click "all knock-outs": http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Lille.12/microSite/Results.htm|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d3|pc|d5|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c2|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pg|| nt|odysseus69: down now|pg|| nt|ady: defence may prevail now|pg|| nt|ady: needs diamond continuation or spade switch then diamond|pg|| nt|lechcold: Ahlesved does not know @D distribution. Pard can have singleton|pg|| nt|garden2005: palcówka jednokartowa, gdyby ¯ak wstawi³ @cK to siedem lew, straciliœmy tempo|pg|| nt|odysseus69: even heart switch will not save declarer|pg|| nt|lechcold: ale Szwed nie wie ¿e partner ma dubla karo. Mo¿e zagraæ na razie kiera|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d2|pc|d9|pc|dA|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h5|pc|hQ|pc|h7|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hT|pc|hA|pc|h6|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h9|pc|h8|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|h2|pc|s2|pc|s5|pc|s7|pg|| mc|6|pg|| qx|o3|st||md|1S8542HAT4DA6CA752,SAJ6HK52DJ8CKQJ96,SQT9HQJ76DK943CT3,SK73H983DQT752C84|sv|e|nt|cumino: He could make only by putting J@D at first trick and playin @C K|pg|| mb|1C|mb|1N|nt|kiwibridge: after the excitement of the 1st board, 2 one level contracts follow :)|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 1@C=multi-purpose a) 12-14, BAL b) (15)16+ NAT c) 19+ any d) 12-18, 4441@D|pg|| mb|d|mb|2D|nt|serhat: 1NT wa good.. |pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|serhat: was|pg|| nt|ahollan1: pre-alert 02:05 for me -- so don't rely on me to know how many tricks taken by declarer/defense|pg|| nt|pelu: even then we are very glad to have u here Al|pg|| mb|p|pc|s5|nt|Vugraphzay: True story :)|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pg|| pc|c8|nt|adonis18: a curiosity: BBO's frontpage announces: No vugraph transmission now!|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|c3|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cT|pc|c4|pc|cA|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sA|pc|sT|pc|s7|pg|| nt|Vugraphzay: As you can see in my profile I am not at the table so I cannot verify any scores, I copy exactly what another operator at the table puts into his software|pg|| nt|jillan: that is a hard setup Bas|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|c5|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d6|pc|dJ|pc|dK|pg|| nt|jillan: Bas as our vugrapher can't verify as he is not at the table as he said :)|pg|| nt|kiwibridge: we just hit 3000 viewers in this room @H|pg|| nt|serhat: -1?|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h8|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hK|pc|h7|pc|h3|pg|| pc|c9|pc|d4|mc|7|pg|| qx|c3|st||md|1S8542HAT4DA6CA752,SAJ6HK52DJ8CKQJ96,SQT9HQJ76DK943CT3,SK73H983DQT752C84|sv|e|nt|jbgood: Zak did well in cahing out..|pg|| nt|jbgood: *cashing|pg|| nt|odysseus69: 1nt likely again|pg|| nt|ady: 20-20 here|pg|| nt|odysseus69: may see 1D opening then??|pg|| nt|ady: struggle to make anything |pg|| mb|1D|nt|jbgood: surely|pg|| mb|d|nt|serhat: 20-20 but W has 5 good @C!:)|pg|| mb|r|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|jbgood: xx prob showing hearts|pg|| mb|p|nt|odysseus69: maybe Easts pass shows diamonds but no alert so probably not|pg|| nt|odysseus69: mabe the xx shows hearts|pg|| pc|cK|nt|ady: with the 5 card club suit working for 4 tricks e/w could make 1NT|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|c2|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cT|pc|c8|pc|cA|pg|| nt|lechcold: skoro otwarcie by³o sztuczne, to mo¿e lepiej by³o wejœæ 1N z rêk¹ ¯aka? |pg|| nt|jbgood: good (low) contract - no problem in making this one i gather|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s6|pc|s9|pc|sK|pg|| nt|odysseus69: this is comfortable spot|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h4|pc|hK|pc|h6|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o4|st||md|2SQ965HJ942DTCK974,SAKT3HA5D7543CQJ6,SJ72H763DAK962CA2,S84HKQT8DQJ8CT853|sv|b|mb|1C|nt|ahollan1: 1@C=2+|pg|| mb|1D|mb|d|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: DBL = 4+@H|pg|| nt|jillan: the same contract vhere was played in the CR.|pg|| nt|kiwibridge: USA Seniors score rectified it's now 14 to them http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Lille.12/microSite/Results.htm|pg|| nt|jillan: but from East|pg|| nt|cumino: It seems that double excludes 4@H and 4@S |pg|| pc|d6|pc|dQ|pc|dT|pc|d4|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c7|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pg|| pc|dA|mc|7|pg|| qx|c4|st||md|2SQ965HJ942DTCK974,SAKT3HA5D7543CQJ6,SJ72H763DAK962CA2,S84HKQT8DQJ8CT853|sv|b|nt|ady: 9 tricks an excellent return there a 2nd good result for Sweden|pg|| nt|jbgood: double game swing on 1|pg|| nt|ady: another partial around 1NT e/w|pg|| mb|1C|mb|1D|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ady: last hand 1 heart just made I am told did think 9 tricks a lot|pg|| nt|odysseus69: this one is just ok|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|dJ|pg|| nt|ady: defence has 4 diamond tricks and ace and king of clubs|pg|| nt|odysseus69: wont take too long|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d8|pc|c7|pc|d4|pg|| pc|dA|pc|dQ|mc|7|pg|| qx|o5|st||md|3SQ7HJT9DQJ95C7642,SAT65HK6DK87CKQ95,SK9432HQ83DT64CA3,SJ8HA7542DA32CJT8|sv|n|nt|ahollan1: Nystrom 1@S rebid must say unbalanced hand|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2D|nt|jillan: 1NT is 14-17|pg|| mb|p|mb|2H|nt|ahollan1: 2@D can be 4@H invite|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|nt|jillan: 2@D is transfer or GF |pg|| mb|p|nt|jillan: sorry game try|pg|| nt|serhat: some imps for Sweden I guess!|pg|| nt|Vugraphzay: Apparently the score on board 2 was 1NT-2 after all since it has just been changed. I corrected it as well|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s8|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg|| pc|c5|nt|jillan: thank you Bas|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cJ|pc|c6|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c7|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sJ|pc|s7|pc|s5|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hJ|pc|hK|pc|h8|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|d6|pc|cT|pc|c2|pg|| pc|c9|pc|d4|pc|h5|pc|c4|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|h9|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|dT|pg|| pc|d8|pc|s4|pc|dA|pc|d5|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hT|mc|10|nt|serhat: what risk did he have to duck the second @H|pg|| nt|kiwibridge: nicely done|pg|| pg|| qx|c5|st||md|3SQ7HJT9DQJ95C7642,SAT65HK6DK87CKQ95,SK9432HQ83DT64CA3,SJ8HA7542DA32CJT8|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2D|nt|lechcold: teraz 3N, wist pikowy i swoje|pg|| mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|nt|lechcold: (co najmniej)|pg|| nt|odysseus69: spade lead will give 9th trick|pg|| mb|p|pc|s3|nt|ady: safest line play on clubs|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg|| nt|odysseus69: always 9 even on diamond lead|pg|| pc|c5|nt|ady: best lead a diamond but then with hearts 3-3 should still make|pg|| nt|odysseus69: declarer may have A10 doubleton of spades and 5 diamond tricks so north thinking |pg|| pc|c3|pc|c8|pc|c2|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c4|pc|c9|pc|cA|pg|| nt|odysseus69: if they play Smith peters North will now know that things not good|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sJ|pc|s7|pc|s5|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h9|pc|hK|pc|h3|pg|| pc|cK|pc|h8|pc|cT|pc|c6|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|hQ|pc|d2|pc|c7|pg|| pc|h6|pc|d4|pc|hA|pc|hT|pg|| pc|dA|nt|ady: safe to give up a heart|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d7|pc|d6|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d9|pc|dK|pc|dT|pg|| pc|d8|mc|9|pg|| qx|o6|st||md|4SJ543HAKQ2DJ9CQ75,ST962HJ6DAK83CAT8,SK7HT53DQ764CJ432,SAQ8H9874DT52CK96|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: multi-purpose 1@C|pg|| mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1N|nt|ahollan1: 1@D=a) 0-6 b) 7-11, unbal minor(s) c) 16+, BAL, not 4@H/@S|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1@H = a) (3)4-suit, 12-14 HCP b) 5+M, 19-20 HCP c) 4M & 5+@C, 16-18 d) 4M & 5@D, 19-20|pg|| nt|jkotor: 1@h = 3+ if 12-14 bal|pg|| nt|ahollan1: last time i'll copy/paste that :)|pg|| nt|ahollan1: NS play strong @C in other room|pg|| mb|p|mb|d|nt|ahollan1: i know many big clubbers who would respond 1@H over the nebulous 1@D|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c6|nt|the_clown: I know I would|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cT|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d5|pc|dJ|pc|dK|pg|| nt|adonis18: a spade back now =7 for defence|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s7|pc|sQ|pc|s3|pg|| nt|jillan: double dummy you can play @DA and @CA @CK and a@H to leave the declarer on his own|pg|| nt|jillan: yeah that is right with that defence South has an entry to dummy with the HJ|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c5|pc|c8|pc|c2|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pc|c3|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s4|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sJ|pc|s6|nt|cumino: Bettter defence was small diamond by West, IMO, |pg|| pc|d6|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|h3|pc|h7|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hJ|pc|h5|pc|h9|pg|| nt|pelu: count: 3 @hs 2@cs 1@d and 1@s - 1H10 is entry for the 4. @c|pg|| nt|pelu: sorry privat|pg|| nt|cumino: what 2@C?|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dA|pc|d7|pc|d2|pg|| pc|sT|nt|ahollan1: we only got part of the private message from peter :)|pg|| nt|ahollan1: the answer -- but not the question|pg|| pc|hT|pc|dT|pc|s5|pg|| mc|6|pg|| qx|c6|st||md|4SJ543HAKQ2DJ9CQ75,ST962HJ6DAK83CAT8,SK7HT53DQ764CJ432,SAQ8H9874DT52CK96|sv|e|nt|lechcold: mo¿na by³o nadrobiæ i to bezpiecznie zupe³nie|pg|| mb|p|nt|odysseus69: back to 1NT?|pg|| nt|ady: Poland opened their account on hand 3 gained an imp playing 2@D|pg|| mb|1D|mb|p|mb|p|nt|odysseus69: END|pg|| nt|lechcold: something about the Ahlesved-Petersson system>|pg|| nt|lechcold: ?|pg|| mb|p|nt|lechcold: Precision style?|pg|| nt|odysseus69: occasinally must force yourrself to pass 1 diamond|pg|| pc|sT|nt|ady: less than half the points and less than half the diamonds looks a struggle|pg|| nt|odysseus69: only 50s|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sQ|pc|s4|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|h3|pg|| nt|lechcold: mam tu info, ¿e 1@D mog³o byæ nawet z renonsu..zatem Ahlesved mia³ szczêœcie, ze partner ma A¯ dubla:)|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hK|pc|hJ|pc|h5|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s6|nt|jbgood: yes - NS play strong club and the @d opener doesnt promise any @ds at all|pg|| nt|lechcold: Szwedzi graj¹ silnym treflem|pg|| pc|hT|pc|s8|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|lechcold: otwarcia zatem do 15-16|pg|| pc|d8|pc|c2|pc|h7|pg|| nt|ady: spade best|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d2|pc|d9|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d6|pc|d5|pc|dJ|pg|| nt|ady: hand 2 has been amended 1NT down 2 so another 2 imps for Poland|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dQ|pc|dT|pc|h2|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c6|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pg|| pc|s9|pc|d7|pc|c9|pc|s3|pg|| mc|5|pg|| qx|o7|st||md|1SJT82HA92DK9CAK42,SA97HJT8764DT4C85,S653H3DA8652CQJ73,SKQ4HKQ5DQJ73CT96|sv|b|nt|jillan: hard work for no imps :)|pg|| nt|kiwibridge: hard way to get a flat board|pg|| nt|jaapfr: but sure e meant if not max defense like the Swedes did it was made (2@C was @CJ and @C$ at the end):)|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h7|nt|jaapfr: @C4|pg|| mc|7|nt|jillan: Coffee!!|pg|| pg|| qx|c7|st||md|1SJT82HA92DK9CAK42,SA97HJT8764DT4C85,S653H3DA8652CQJ73,SKQ4HKQ5DQJ73CT96|sv|b|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ady: 8 tricks for e/w in hearts if they can get into the bidding|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|odysseus69: after board 1 we have had 6 partials with little bidding action- we should ask for our money back|pg|| nt|odysseus69: i can see a play here|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hQ|pc|h2|pg|| nt|ady: on the nail 7 tricks |pg|| pc|hK|pc|h9|pc|h6|pc|s3|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|d2|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|o8|st||md|2SQ6542H9D83CKJT32,SA87HKQ87DJT95C84,STHT64DAQ42CA9765,SKJ93HAJ532DK76CQ|sv|o|nt|jillan: oh well, |pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1H|nt|jillan: specs ask if beer would be approved. Guess it is up tp you way to early for me :) Although faster than coffee|pg|| mb|1S|nt|jillan: normal 1@H|pg|| mb|2N|nt|kiwibridge: I have a nice Gisborne (NZ) Chardonnay here|pg|| nt|ahollan1: Women Russia +2 over England Seniors USA over Hungary by 7|pg|| mb|d|nt|ahollan1: but both of those matches 96 boards so a bit silly to pay attention at this point|pg|| nt|jillan: Peter behave with those comments!!|pg|| nt|jillan: :)|pg|| nt|ahollan1: he thought he wasn't being recorded|pg|| mb|p|mb|3C|mb|3H|nt|jillan: I think the women wold like to play as many boards as the men, And we can't understand why we do not|pg|| nt|kiwibridge: 5@C good sac here thx Blair|pg|| nt|ahollan1: increasingly common treatment to use 2N in competition as an artificial raise|pg|| nt|jillan: specs want us to talk about a possible 5@C sacrifice|pg|| mb|4C|mb|p|nt|kiwibridge: can they buy it in 4 :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|kiwibridge: wow|pg|| nt|jillan: yea, wow|pg|| nt|bobholl: good for tension in match :)|pg|| nt|ahollan1: full credit to Zmudzinski|pg|| pc|hK|nt|jillan: so this is a big gain for NS|pg|| nt|jaapfr: you want the specs to encourage to bid 1@S with S cards\:)?|pg|| nt|jillan: and evens the match abit|pg|| nt|mareczek: all credist to Balicki for his double of 2NT|pg|| nt|mareczek: absolutely not obvious bid|pg|| nt|jillan: good strong bidding by the BZ|pg|| nt|ahollan1: not unreasonable for Upmark to be discouraged with @S on his left|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|h9|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d3|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sJ|pc|s6|pc|s8|pg|| pc|hA|nt|ahollan1: even if Upmark bids more -- NS are getting good board by bidding up to 5@C|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c8|st||md|2SQ6542H9D83CKJT32,SA87HKQ87DJT95C84,STHT64DAQ42CA9765,SKJ93HAJ532DK76CQ|sv|o|nt|ady: no one can blame either west or east for not enteri the auction |pg|| nt|odysseus69: 2H for E-W om last but couldnt get there|pg|| nt|odysseus69: sorry - forgot about easy 3NT|pg|| nt|ady: a game at last 4@H |pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1H|nt|odysseus69: 5C cheap here |pg|| mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|nt|odysseus69: 2C needed an alert I think|pg|| mb|p|nt|ady: 5@C is an excellent save|pg|| mb|p|nt|odysseus69: I expect more action from Polish N/S in open room|pg|| pc|s2|nt|jbgood: good save - but then you have to bid clubs at one stage - not easy to get in|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sT|pc|sJ|pg|| nt|lechcold: myœlê, ¿e nasi na drugim stole mog¹ tu byæ w licytacji|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h9|pc|hK|pc|h4|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h6|pc|hA|pc|c2|pg|| nt|lechcold: 5@C œwietna obrona..niby idzie jeszcze 5@H, ale raczej tak wysoko EW nie pójd¹|pg|| pc|h3|pc|s4|pc|hQ|pc|hT|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d2|pc|d6|pc|d3|pg|| nt|garden2005: S mia³ okazjê wejœæ 2@h ... po 2@d, skoro ju¿ wczeœniej nie wszed³|pg|| mc|11|nt|ady: north might have doubled artificial 2@C dont think michaels bid by south after 1 heart is on on those poor suits|pg|| pg|| qx|o9|st||md|3SAK8HT874D653CT65,SQ3HKQ3DAK2CQJ972,S7652HA2DQ84CAK83,SJT94HJ965DJT97C4|sv|e|nt|jaapfr: true|pg|| nt|Vugraphzay: Dummy picked up partner's hand, showed it to Upmark and claimed = lol|pg|| nt|ahollan1: are you sure David? in north america 3@H would be weakest - since 2N forced to that level|pg|| mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: right -- the key is to be sure both partners on same page|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cQ|nt|ahollan1: without the overcall 1M-2N = 4-fit, INV+ i believe same after 1@H-(1@S)-2N|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|c6|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c8|nt|jaapfr: small beauty swindle @C6 and duck gives the contract a chance|pg|| pc|s4|nt|serhat: can make with this lead. but I think he will try @S 3-3 and go down|pg|| pc|c5|pg|| pc|s2|nt|serhat: well not anymore|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s8|nt|serhat: new leader|pg|| nt|ahollan1: in the playoff for Bronze thru 8 Monaco 31 Ireland 19|pg|| nt|jaapfr: it is all abouit if he ever gets @DQ to make it|pg|| pc|s3|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d5|pc|dK|pc|d4|pg|| nt|bobholl: 7 tricks without @D 3@C 3@S @H A|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cK|nt|ahollan1: the other hand was 1@C-1@D|pg|| pc|d7|pc|cT|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sT|pc|sK|pc|sQ|pg|| nt|jaapfr: y discarding @S by E did helpo and we are now for 7 or 8 tr|pg|| mc|7|nt|jaapfr: and new leader|pg|| pg|| qx|c9|st||md|3SAK8HT874D653CT65,SQ3HKQ3DAK2CQJ972,S7652HA2DQ84CAK83,SJT94HJ965DJT97C4|sv|e|nt|moshel: S was Very conservative not go in to the biding with his 5-5 |pg|| nt|ady: 20-20 again|pg|| nt|jbgood: really depends on their agreements|pg|| nt|lechcold: double w/ only @CA and small pips is questionable IMO|pg|| nt|ady: looks 1NT again by n/s|pg|| nt|jbgood: agree|pg|| nt|odysseus69: after 1D -p -1H what from West?|pg|| mb|1D|mb|p|nt|ady: maybe 1NT?|pg|| mb|1H|mb|p|nt|ady: could be sandwiched|pg|| mb|1N|nt|ady: quiet pass from Zak on balance right I think|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sJ|nt|odysseus69: agree with Wests pass -some feel obliged to bid with a lot of points but losing action|pg|| nt|ady: this looks a plus for e/w just defending|pg|| nt|odysseus69: club pips good for declarer|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s5|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pc|c4|pg|| nt|odysseus69: not so good now - 10 did not work well|pg|| pc|cK|pc|s4|nt|lechcold: wejœcie naturalnym 1N pomiêdzy dwóch licytuj¹cych przeciwników jest bardzo ryzykowne, dlatego Zak pasowa³|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c2|pg|| nt|lechcold: mimo ¿e ma najlepsz¹ kartê przy stole|pg|| nt|odysseus69: low club at trick 2 would have put declarer in good shape|pg|| nt|ady: spade discard can cost a trick|pg|| pc|s7|nt|ady: not easy for east|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sK|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|s8|pc|d2|pc|s2|pc|sT|pg|| pc|h5|nt|ady: now heart switch best|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg|| pc|s6|nt|lechcold: z drugiej strony, pasuj¹c mo¿na straciæ du¿¹ grê - czasem przeciwnicy nic nie maj¹ w karcie:)|pg|| pc|d7|nt|ady: down 1|pg|| pc|c6|pc|h3|pg|| nt|lechcold: trudna pozycja|pg|| mc|6|pg|| qx|o10|st||md|4SKQ32HQ764D9CT742,SHAJ8DJ865432CK93,SA864HK52DAKQ7CAJ,SJT975HT93DTCQ865|sv|b|nt|ahollan1: note that Balicki showed 4@S with weak NT but on earlier hand Nystrom did NOT show @S after partner showed @H via transfer|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|3D|nt|jaapfr: ask ops to open 3@D and you have a way to avoid the nasty 5-0 in 4@S:)|pg|| nt|kiwibridge: 3@DX could go for a number :)|pg|| nt|bobholl: if ew just would be silent NS would reach 4@S and go down|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dT|nt|ahollan1: it's been a LONG time since 3@D-DBL was Penalty|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d6|pc|dA|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s5|pc|sK|pc|d4|pg|| nt|kiwibridge: I know, it was a fantasy|pg|| nt|jaapfr: and 3@D-p-p-? too scary for N:)|pg|| nt|ahollan1: when i started playing in early 1970s some were still playing Fishbein|pg|| nt|serhat: he has to play over @H to make this.. good result from closed room|pg|| nt|kiwibridge: same auction|pg|| nt|cumino: North has a the problem to bid 3NT or double. 3NT seems normal but with 21 he could lose a slam. |pg|| nt|jaapfr: after pass pd a very marginal chance imo|pg|| pc|h4|nt|jaapfr: to lose a slam|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hK|pc|h3|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h9|pc|h6|pc|hJ|pg|| nt|serhat: Balicki now worried about @S but he has no other chance|pg|| nt|bobholl: lower minor over black suits is playable :)|pg|| nt|serhat: he doesn not enough entry to make the last @C|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|hT|pc|h7|pg|| nt|serhat: he is on the right path.. |pg|| pc|dJ|nt|jaapfr: helpful @HA|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 3N over 3-level preempt can also be very atypical shape|pg|| pc|dK|pc|c5|nt|ahollan1: many pairs use 4@C over 3N to ask for hand type/range|pg|| pc|c2|pg|| nt|serhat: can make extra now may be..|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s7|pc|s2|nt|ahollan1: others play Baron|pg|| nt|kiwibridge: or Gerber lol :)|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c10|st||md|4SKQ32HQ764D9CT742,SHAJ8DJ865432CK93,SA864HK52DAKQ7CAJ,SJT975HT93DTCQ865|sv|b|nt|odysseus69: surprising small misdefence|pg|| nt|ady: what action West?|pg|| nt|lechcold: pass I think|pg|| nt|garden2005: zdaniem Marcina Leœniewskiego, pozdrawia Kibiców, wejœcie 1NT jest wrêcz obowi¿akowe bo 1|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|ady: n/s may play 4@S with some difficulty|pg|| mb|3D|nt|odysseus69: 6 spades looks playable but 5-0 break makes it a disaster|pg|| nt|garden2005: 1@d mo¿e byæ 11-13 a 1@h na 2PC ... w poprzednim|pg|| nt|jbgood: we were wrong about W passing...|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|nt|odysseus69: 3NT wil end it|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|dT|nt|jbgood: so the preempt tok the spade suit away for NS|pg|| nt|odysseus69: heart break provides 9th trick|pg|| nt|ady: the pre-empt has kept n/s out of spades and 3NT looks like making with hearts 3-3|pg|| nt|lechcold: do not like this 3@D|pg|| nt|lechcold: to be honest:(|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d4|pc|dK|pg|| nt|garden2005: otwarcie lekko nieszczêœliwe, bo wybi³o ich z mocno prawdopodobnej gry w piki|pg|| nt|lechcold: dok³adnie, choæby z tego powodu|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s5|pc|sK|nt|lechcold: dodatkowo wskazuje z³y wist|pg|| pc|d6|pg|| nt|garden2005: no ale coœ trzeba robiæ ... graæ! :)|pg|| nt|lechcold: no i jeszcze mo¿na sporo postawiæ:)|pg|| nt|garden2005: raz pod wozem raz na wozie|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h8|nt|ady: good news K@H holding not likely Zak has 4 hearts|pg|| nt|ady: assume K@H|pg|| nt|odysseus69: cant see case for not playing king|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h3|pg|| nt|garden2005: urobi dziewi¹t¹ jak bêdzie kontynuowa³ kiery|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h9|nt|ady: Zak may switch to a club but declarer will be ok|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|c3|nt|ady: needs to win ace or another spade makes communications awkward|pg|| pc|cA|nt|odysseus69: it seems that AHLESVED likes to check out every possibility before committing but now looks like 0-3-7-3 with West so looking good|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c2|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hT|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg|| pc|d8|pc|dA|pc|c6|pc|c4|pg|| mc|9|nt|jbgood: Adam Z bought it in 4@c on 8|pg|| nt|ady: could be a swing for Sweden |pg|| nt|jbgood: for 11 imps|pg|| pg|| qx|o11|st||md|1S765HAKJ92D742C82,S843H74D86CQJ9754,SAKJTHT83DAQJ3CT6,SQ92HQ65DKT95CAK3|sv|o|nt|ahollan1: Roland that sounds like Gladiator|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|jillan: 4@H at the other table made after the@CA lead and a @D return|pg|| nt|bobholl: @CK with Q under it migth defeat 4@H|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|c6|pg|| nt|ahollan1: a bit surprised no @CQ|pg|| pc|h5|nt|jillan: both defenders chose to keep their @CQ :)|pg|| nt|jillan: so IF two top player do not put the @CK they should be right, right?|pg|| nt|ahollan1: EW do lead A from AKx or Ax but on this auction - who leads from Ax|pg|| nt|jillan: @CQ I mean|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|h3|pg|| nt|jillan: been suggested it could be the singelton @CA|pg|| nt|jaapfr: how to avoid going down?|pg|| nt|ahollan1: singleton A is possible |pg|| nt|ahollan1: but then West still shouldn't play @C4|pg|| nt|cumino: Bad defence in CR |pg|| nt|bobholl: guess this will go down would play @D finesse now|pg|| nt|jaapfr: oh sorry missed the comment how to make 4@H (ask opps to lead @C and switcch to @D return)|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s8|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c8|pc|c5|pc|cT|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h9|pc|h7|pc|h8|pg|| pc|hK|pc|c7|pc|hT|pc|hQ|pg|| nt|jaapfr: N did everything right but can not burn his @D loser|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d6|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pg|| mc|9|nt|kiwibridge: 4300 kibs now|pg|| pg|| qx|c11|st||md|1S765HAKJ92D742C82,S843H74D86CQJ9754,SAKJTHT83DAQJ3CT6,SQ92HQ65DKT95CAK3|sv|o|nt|ady: Polamd hit back on hand 8|pg|| nt|odysseus69: with the weak 5-5 in blacks Zm overcaled 1S and Sweden subsided |pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|nt|ady: looks like 4 loseras in hearts but may settle for a partial anyway|pg|| mb|2S|nt|odysseus69: will they bid this to 4H - i think so|pg|| nt|jbgood: 14-16 NT ag 8...|pg|| nt|odysseus69: should prove 1 too many|pg|| nt|ady: rather flat 8 5-3-3-2 nothing outside hearts|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|nt|ady: once the hearts behave with the finesse right looks a good game|pg|| nt|odysseus69: North will convert|pg|| nt|jbgood: not sure about the 2@s response - some 3@c support super accept?|pg|| nt|ady: might make 3NT with diamond lead|pg|| mb|4H|nt|lechcold: 2@S was superaccept? North's hand is not good enough I think|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|jbgood: 3 card*|pg|| pc|cA|nt|lechcold: good def should beat this|pg|| nt|ady: west can signal Q@C|pg|| nt|odysseus69: when partner transfers mandatory to convert with small doubleton|pg|| nt|lechcold: @CQ, small @C then @D|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|c6|pg|| pc|d5|nt|jbgood: 2@h was transfer, so ... but agree it is a tough super accept...|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d8|pc|dQ|pg|| nt|odysseus69: Queen better from West|pg|| nt|ady: now a make|pg|| nt|ady: Zak mean with clubs certainly did not welcome any switch|pg|| nt|lechcold: ZAk definitely should have played a @CQ|pg|| nt|lechcold: ¯ak bezwzglêdnie powinien dodaæ @CD|pg|| nt|jbgood: yes - the @d loser disappears on the 4th spade after trumps have been drawn|pg|| nt|odysseus69: surprising lapse by West but still diamond switch looks a mistake|pg|| nt|lechcold: przecie¿ wie, ¿e partner ma masê punktów i k³opoty na wiœcie|pg|| nt|ady: Poland got another 4 imps on hand 9|pg|| nt|odysseus69: wish I could speak some Polish |pg|| nt|ady: but may lose a swing here|pg|| nt|jbgood: Queen response seems natural on the W lot, agree|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|hA|pc|h4|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s3|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pg|| nt|lechcold: na razie bardzo dobry set B¯ w PO i nienajlepszy Z¯ tutaj|pg|| nt|jbgood: 4 more for Poland when Zmud played 1 NT on the S hand an got the @c Q lead on 9|pg|| nt|odysseus69: East will be feeling sick at the moment|pg|| nt|jbgood: or West...|pg|| nt|lechcold: POL-FRA (Women playoff) 10:6 after 9 boards|pg|| nt|odysseus69: king of clubs coming then heart|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c8|pc|c5|pc|cT|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s6|pc|s4|pc|sA|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h6|pc|h2|pc|h7|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o12|st||md|2SAQJ65HQJ95DKJ65C,S742HKT632DCAK653,ST93H74DAT874CJT4,SK8HA8DQ932CQ9872|sv|n|nt|bobholl: think @D finesse first is better if @D 33 no need for @S finesse (but can't easily try for that )|pg|| mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1N|nt|jaapfr: ok chance @D first is marginal better|pg|| nt|ahollan1: Roland's 2nd favorite convention 1N=Semi-Force|pg|| mb|2S|mb|2N|nt|jillan: 1NT is a semi force|pg|| nt|bobholl: guess this is my favorite 2nt good bad|pg|| nt|jaapfr: with @D 3-3 is indeed extra chance but it would not work here tx for al good comments kibs:)|pg|| nt|jaapfr: and Bob:)|pg|| mb|3S|nt|ahollan1: difference is Bob is serious i was being very sarcastic|pg|| nt|jaapfr: we know you Al:)|pg|| mb|4C|nt|ahollan1: i live for sarcasm [and hope someday they make that a font]|pg|| nt|Walddk2: http://www.bridgeguys.com/Conventions/good_bad_two_no_trump.html|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|cumino: 2@D 1 down in CR seems a bit strange result|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|s8|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s4|pc|s9|pc|sK|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|s5|pc|c3|pc|c4|pg|| pc|c2|pc|d5|pc|cA|pc|cT|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|hA|pc|h5|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|h7|pg|| pc|h3|pc|d7|pc|c7|pc|h9|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c12|st||md|2SAQJ65HQJ95DKJ65C,S742HKT632DCAK653,ST93H74DAT874CJT4,SK8HA8DQ932CQ9872|sv|n|nt|jbgood: on 10 the Swede in the W seat also opened 3 @d - so contract there 3 NT also|pg|| mb|1H|nt|odysseus69: 4 spades un lucky here but defence will need to get it right|pg|| mb|p|mb|1N|nt|lechcold: I expect 5@C EW|pg|| nt|jbgood: and NS will have to bid it first...|pg|| mb|2D|mb|p|nt|ady: 4@S looks to have a play but not straight forward also the same for 5@C e/w|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|odysseus69: right - I forgot to look at clubs|pg|| nt|jbgood: 2 @d showing @d and @s|pg|| pc|cA|nt|ady: well that ended much quicker than i thought it would|pg|| nt|lechcold: unexpected:)|pg|| nt|lechcold: nieoczekiwane zakoñczenie licytacji:)|pg|| nt|odysseus69: didnt see this coming - 2D must be diamonds and spades but no alert and Norths pass looks strange|pg|| nt|jbgood: these guys dont see all the cards :)|pg|| pc|c4|nt|ady: around 10 tricks|pg|| pc|c2|nt|odysseus69: do they see their own?|pg|| pc|d5|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|c3|pc|d4|pc|dQ|pg|| nt|ady: cant undertand east selling out |pg|| nt|jbgood: should W bid 3 @c? And is it not ok for E to pass with his good def? (just asking)|pg|| pc|c7|pc|d6|pc|c5|pc|cT|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|sT|pc|sK|pg|| nt|ady: 3NT was flat on hand 10 same 3@D opening and 3NT closing the auction|pg|| pc|s8|nt|odysseus69: from Easts view it sounds like pd has 4 spades and 5 hearts and minimum - presumably he couldhave doubled 2D with shortage|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s7|pc|s9|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|dK|pc|c6|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|d2|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h2|pc|h4|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h9|pc|hK|pc|h7|pg|| pc|h3|nt|ady: going down|pg|| mc|7|nt|odysseus69: 1 down - a surprise result|pg|| pg|| qx|o13|st||md|3SJ75HA9DKJ874CT97,SKT96HKJT64DA5CK3,SAQ842HDQ9632CA62,S3HQ87532DTCQJ854|sv|b|nt|cumino: A@S doesn't seem a technical lead. If partner has K@S there are few chances to beat. He has to hope he hasn't|pg|| nt|ahollan1: in other room NS play ASPTRO over 1N opener -- but i've never seen it used after 1M-1N|pg|| nt|ahollan1: ASPTRO uses 2@D to show @S and another|pg|| nt|jaapfr: after 1M-1N:) indeed imposswible|pg|| mb|1S|nt|ahollan1: or maybe it was @D & @H/@S|pg|| mb|p|mb|2S|mb|3H|nt|Walddk2: http://bridgetopics.com/topics-collection/topic-19-good-bad-2nt|pg|| nt|ahollan1: you might need to subscribe to read that article from bridgetopics|pg|| mb|4D|mb|5H|nt|jaapfr: howw to prevent pd for bidding 5@H after 4@S (looks also impossible)|pg|| nt|bobholl: correct assumption al :(|pg|| nt|petka: since NS hold the spades, N is giving south information designed for exactly this situation: had south held Kxx xx AJxxx xxx instead, then he would bid 5S|pg|| mb|5S|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kiwibridge: 4500 kibs|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 4@D identified double fit for Zmudzinski|pg|| nt|petka: now he bid a dubiopus 5S, holding his best card in opps suit|pg|| pc|dT|nt|ahollan1: still very close between PASS and 5@S|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dA|pc|d2|pg|| pc|d5|nt|bobholl: costly affair for the poles|pg|| pc|d6|pc|s3|pc|d4|pg|| nt|petka: had it been the HK it would have been a bad bid IMO, but now just dubious|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c7|pc|cK|pc|c2|pg|| pc|c3|nt|bobholl: this can't be true|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c9|pg|| nt|jaapfr: no|pg|| nt|Vugraphzay: Exquise me :)|pg|| nt|jaapfr: ty Bas|pg|| nt|bobholl: you are good bas :)|pg|| nt|jaapfr: he is one of the very best operators in the world imho|pg|| nt|Vugraphzay: Thanks :)|pg|| pc|sA|pc|h2|pc|s5|pc|s6|pg|| pc|s2|pc|h3|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sQ|pc|h5|pc|s7|pg|| nt|jaapfr: new leader|pg|| pc|d3|pc|c8|nt|jaapfr: imho=in my humble opinion|pg|| pc|d7|pc|s9|pg|| nt|kiwibridge: where, when?|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2 to play Women England +10 over Russia|pg|| mc|8|nt|jaapfr: oh sory swedes continue to lead|pg|| pg|| qx|c13|st||md|3SJ75HA9DKJ874CT97,SKT96HKJT64DA5CK3,SAQ842HDQ9632CA62,S3HQ87532DTCQJ854|sv|b|nt|ady: did not expect that to go down|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|nt|odysseus69: 11 tricks in hearts - will they get together this time|pg|| mb|2H|mb|d|nt|jbgood: 2@h a good spade raise?|pg|| nt|odysseus69: yes - easy way in after 2H showing good spade raise|pg|| nt|ady: e/w have 4@H 4@S some sort of save|pg|| nt|lechcold: sztuczna konwencja u³atwi³a naszym akcjê|pg|| nt|odysseus69: 3D now? then 4H-4S|pg|| nt|jbgood: 2 @h = 3-8 and 3 card support|pg|| nt|lechcold: po 2@S ¯ak musia³by wejœæ 3@H|pg|| mb|4S|mb|5H|nt|lechcold: teraz Zaremba chyba powie 5@H|pg|| nt|odysseus69: 850 expected|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|ady: a phantome as it happens but cannot blame east|pg|| nt|ady: 5@S not a good idea|pg|| nt|odysseus69: sorry 200 expected|pg|| nt|odysseus69: seemed to miss heart ace|pg|| nt|ady: 5@S may go 3 down on diamond lead and ruff|pg|| nt|lechcold: trudno siê dziwiæ Jurkowi, ¿e zg³osi³ 5@H|pg|| nt|jbgood: as expected 11 was a Swedish gain as they beat 4 @h|pg|| nt|odysseus69: 2 aces makes double look reasonable and 5S seens far too much|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|nt|lechcold: N powinien kontrowaæ raczej - 2@H wskaza³o tylko 3-kartowy fit |pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|ady: good decision|pg|| nt|odysseus69: double costs 5 imps if wrong but upside not known|pg|| pc|s5|nt|jbgood: S has shown 3-8 (as per their CC) and 3 card spade support - even dbl rather amazing|pg|| nt|ady: especially as 4@S likely to go down|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sQ|pc|s3|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dT|pc|dJ|pc|dA|pg|| nt|riccho: 2@h = 8-15 with support|pg|| nt|ady: trump lead surprising|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|ady: sorry ignore that|pg|| pc|d6|pc|h3|pc|hA|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|d2|pc|h2|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o14|st||md|4ST63HAJ5DKCK76432,S74HKQT972DT94CAQ,SAKQ52HDAQJ765CJT,SJ98H8643D832C985|sv|o|nt|ahollan1: 1 to score Senior USA +8 over Hungary|pg|| nt|bobholl: bas is indeed one of the best :)|pg|| nt|ahollan1: he is but don't tell him we said that|pg|| nt|Vugraphzay: NS in 6@C in CR so far|pg|| nt|Vugraphzay: They're there|pg|| nt|jaapfr: sorry to combine all replies to questions and 52 cards and score.................|pg|| nt|cumino: Slam from South|pg|| nt|cumino: @D or @S or NT|pg|| mb|p|nt|mareczek: 6@c in closed |pg|| nt|ahollan1: i'm told in Senior Playoff Sweden +20 over France|pg|| nt|mareczek: good news for Polish supporters|pg|| nt|bobholl: 1@C and a transfer response of 1@H migth accomplish that|pg|| nt|bobholl: but the poles don't play that i guess|pg|| mb|p|nt|mareczek: they play Superprecision struicturee|pg|| mb|2H|nt|mareczek: which enavles playing 6@s from S|pg|| nt|mareczek: but not after intervention|pg|| nt|mareczek: and he passed???|pg|| mb|3H|nt|ahollan1: 4@D?|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: sooo close|pg|| nt|mareczek: now 4@s|pg|| nt|luffe12: but not 6@c as in CR|pg|| nt|mareczek: may be they are playing two-way 3@h Michaels or solid minor|pg|| nt|jaapfr: un happy slams 6@C and 6@D|pg|| nt|cumino: May be 4@S he bids|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|4D|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: forgot to mention 2@H =6+suit, 10-13 hcp|pg|| nt|jaapfr: 6 NT or 6@S both make as S|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|cumino: I don't like 3NT with A@H |pg|| nt|bobholl: good for tension in match :)|pg|| pc|hK|nt|jillan: this could have been even more expensive|pg|| nt|jillan: for Sweden|pg|| nt|jaapfr: 11 or14 imps|pg|| pc|cT|pc|h8|pc|hA|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s4|pc|sA|pc|s8|pg|| nt|jaapfr: roughly:)|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d2|pc|dK|pc|d4|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s7|pc|sK|pc|s9|pg|| mc|12|nt|bobholl: even if ew don't bid and you see only the NS cards 4@S is much better than 6@C|pg|| nt|cumino: A@H, K@D and two ruff with 3@S seems better 4@S bid than 3NT to me|pg|| pg|| qx|c14|st||md|4ST63HAJ5DKCK76432,S74HKQT972DT94CAQ,SAKQ52HDAQJ765CJT,SJ98H8643D832C985|sv|o|nt|jbgood: sry - cannot read - 7-15 and 3 card support, yes|pg|| nt|ady: another distributional hand|pg|| nt|odysseus69: opening lead may be critical her|pg|| nt|ady: 10 tricks the limit in spades if defence leads clubs and a 3rd round promotion|pg|| nt|jbgood: Swedes in 4 @c on 12 - making 11|pg|| nt|ady: sorry mirage no 3rd club|pg|| nt|ady: thx spex|pg|| nt|odysseus69: kibitzer points out that 6 spades by South is cold|pg|| nt|ady: 12 tricks if played by south|pg|| mb|p|nt|odysseus69: may get ther if North shows 2 suiter|pg|| mb|2C|mb|2H|nt|jbgood: any 6 but @c and @h on the S hand makes|pg|| mb|3D|mb|p|nt|ady: 6@S south hardly likely as auction has started|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|nt|odysseus69: North declare now after 3NT then a lot of spades|pg|| nt|odysseus69: North has big problem now|pg|| nt|jbgood: on the other hand difficult to find the club lead now if N bids to slam|pg|| nt|ady: 12 tricks also ok in no-trumps|pg|| mb|4H|nt|odysseus69: cant expect North to fancy NT|pg|| nt|ady: north 4@H does this convey this big 2 suiter?|pg|| mb|p|mb|5C|mb|p|nt|odysseus69: it suggests spades else 4C or 4D|pg|| nt|jbgood: if he had club support, he might just have bid 4@c, so must be a 2-suiter - S can deduct that for sure since he has the @d king so it cannot be based on a long and solid @d suit|pg|| nt|ady: would not 4@S suggest spades|pg|| nt|lechcold: mo¿e byæ ciekawie...N powinien chyba po prostu zrewersowaæ siê pikami|pg|| nt|lechcold: teraz nie wiem, czym to siê skoñczy:)|pg|| nt|odysseus69: but too strong for 4 spades - 4H looks a good idea but South did not draw same conclusion|pg|| nt|jbgood: seems like that would have been better, yes, since S reverted to his clubs|pg|| mb|6C|mb|p|nt|odysseus69: North will expect stronger clubs and may raise |pg|| mb|p|nt|ady: oops|pg|| nt|jbgood: N may bid 6 @c now - yes, he did|pg|| nt|ady: west best take the money|pg|| mb|p|nt|ady: excellent result for Poland already|pg|| nt|odysseus69: he missed the inference that Jon and I were advocating|pg|| pc|s4|nt|lechcold: dobrze, ¿e ¯ak powstrzyma³ siê od kontry...gdyby S wpad³ na pomys³ ucieczki w 6N...|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s8|pc|s3|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c5|pc|c3|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|cA|pc|cJ|pc|c8|pc|c2|pg|| pc|hK|mc|11|pg|| qx|o15|st||md|1SJ643H9843DAKJC82,SKQ8HK6DQ5432CJ94,SA97HAJT72D96CKT3,ST52HQ5DT87CAQ765|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1C|nt|bobholl: agree i would have bid 4@S too|pg|| mb|1H|mb|2C|nt|ahollan1: 1@C=2+|pg|| nt|kiwibridge: 14 boards 70 imps traded "world class" :(|pg|| nt|jaapfr: were exciting boards until now|pg|| nt|jaapfr: not many dulls|pg|| mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d7|nt|ahollan1: other table starting final board of the 1st of 8 segments|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d2|pc|d6|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c9|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg|| pc|d8|nt|serhat: might go -2|pg|| nt|ahollan1: Open Final is 8 sets of 16 the room was opened with wrong description|pg|| nt|cumino: Could make |pg|| nt|ahollan1: Women/Senior/Playoffs are 6-sets|pg|| nt|cumino: A@D and @C he makes|pg|| nt|bobholl: but west migth unblock the @H K and it migth still go down|pg|| nt|jaapfr: then easier tthrow in of E|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|d9|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cT|pc|cQ|pc|c8|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dA|pc|d3|nt|serhat: -1 I meant -sorry specs|pg|| pc|s7|pg|| nt|jaapfr: wants E to lead a@S or in the double dummy to make 9 tricks as Paolo said|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h6|pc|h2|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c5|mc|8|pg|| qx|c15|st||md|1SJ643H9843DAKJC82,SKQ8HK6DQ5432CJ94,SA97HAJT72D96CKT3,ST52HQ5DT87CAQ765|sv|n|nt|ady: Sweden another 14 imps on hand 13 so can afford tghis at the moment|pg|| nt|ady: Poland played 5@SX hand 13 losing 800|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|nt|ady: started quietly now swingy hands|pg|| nt|garden2005: krew zaczê³a siê laæ, na drugi segment podstawimy dzia³a - sprawdzimy ich odpornoœæ|pg|| mb|2D|mb|d|nt|jbgood: I would even call 1 swingy:)|pg|| mb|2H|mb|p|nt|odysseus69: end|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|d8|nt|odysseus69: 8 tricks- next|pg|| nt|jbgood: this time I copy and paste :2D= 8-15 w/Supp, (got that right!)|pg|| nt|ady: yes hand 1 a double game swing but for next 6 or 7 hands little happening|pg|| nt|lechcold: B¯ in 4@S 14|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d9|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dK|pc|d4|pc|d6|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c9|pc|cT|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|h2|pg|| pc|c3|nt|odysseus69: playing to eliminate and make overtrick|pg|| pc|c5|pc|h3|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h6|pc|hT|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h8|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| nt|odysseus69: fell at last|pg|| nt|odysseus69: ace and anoer heart for 9 tricks|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sT|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pg|| pc|sQ|mc|8|pg|| qx|o16|st||md|2SAQT94HK53DA6CT65,SK2HA87DT73CKQJ82,S7HQT62DKJ9542CA7,SJ8653HJ94DQ8C943|sv|e|nt|jaapfr: but mb a bit too DD for N and the ""simple @DQ quess looked more attractive|pg|| mb|1C|mb|1D|mb|p|nt|serhat: if he took the @D A and rudd @D play C.. he had a chance to make. he will play H from dummy.. playing K@H doesn not help|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|nt|bobholl: yes i would have finessed @D too :( but i am not world class as they are|pg|| mb|2D|nt|serhat: ruff|pg|| mb|p|nt|serhat: it didnt matter who has the the hand with @H second. |pg|| mb|2H|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|3S|nt|ahollan1: 2nd set begins in about 70 minutes|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|kiwibridge: unusual auction CR jump canape overcall?|pg|| nt|ahollan1: but still no monaco v ireland|pg|| pc|c9|nt|jaapfr: some specs tell me that eliminating the minors and throw-in E was a much more logic line (a beauty line but very tough to find at the table)|pg|| nt|jillan: see you all then OK!!|pg|| pc|c5|nt|ahollan1: i think those are called Astro Jump Overcalls 4M & (5)6m|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cA|pg|| nt|serhat: if he had the 10@S it was the only line Jaap.. |pg|| nt|jaapfr: or E to have @DQ:)|pg|| nt|serhat: thats why I predicted he might go -1 |pg|| nt|jaapfr: as N did play it|pg|| nt|kiwibridge: we just reached 5000 then dropped slightly, thanks all kibs for some great feedback, and thanks to our great operator and commentators|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d8|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d7|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c6|pc|cQ|pc|c7|pg|| nt|Vugraphzay: Thanks all, back in about an hour with th|pg|| nt|jaapfr: pls do not tell me there were 9 tricks by hitting @DA and K:)|pg|| nt|Vugraphzay: the continuation of this match :)|pg|| pc|cK|pc|h2|pc|c3|pc|cT|pg|| pc|c2|pc|h6|pc|s5|pc|s4|pg|| pc|c8|pc|d4|pc|s3|pc|s9|pg|| pc|hA|mc|7|nt|bobholl: a normal push|pg|| nt|Vugraphzay: Thanks!|pg|| nt|jaapfr: tx bye|pg|| nt|kiwibridge: lol, thx all|pg|| nt|cumino: thx all|pg|| pg|| qx|c16|st||md|2SAQT94HK53DA6CT65,SK2HA87DT73CKQJ82,S7HQT62DKJ9542CA7,SJ8653HJ94DQ8C943|sv|e|nt|ady: last hand of the set thx Robin thx spex|pg|| mb|1C|mb|2H|nt|garden2005: Dbo boooju ... do booooju :) Polacy!|pg|| mb|p|nt|vugraphzbd: next segment at 14.00. 75min|pg|| nt|ady: seems 2@H shows hearts and longer diamonds?|pg|| nt|jbgood: Poland in 3 @h on 15...|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|jbgood: right David: Two level 4c OM w/ 5+ minor (copy/paste is good:))|pg|| pc|cK|nt|odysseus69: no alerts today so dont understand what happened here|pg|| nt|jbgood: app N showed 4 hearts and a longer minor, and S just bid game|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c4|pc|c5|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c6|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d8|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg|| nt|ady: will have to drop the Q@D|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d7|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pg|| nt|ady: unlikely|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cT|pc|cJ|pc|h2|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|s7|pc|s3|pc|s4|pg|| pc|c8|pc|h6|nt|ady: west may have been squeezed had he been able to run 6 diamonds|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s9|pg|| pc|hA|pc|hT|pc|h4|pc|h3|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hQ|mc|7|nt|jbgood: thanks you all and bye for now|pg|| nt|garden2005: do zobaczenia o 14:00|pg|| nt|lechcold: do zobaczenia..bêdzie lepiej|pg|| nt|riccho: bye!|pg|| nt|ady: thx all|pg|| nt|ady: bye|pg|| pg||