vg|A EC 2011 Open Teams Swiss _,7_7,I,11,20,Kamras,0,Mahaffey,0| rs|4SW-2,5CSx-1,3SE-1,3NN=,2SS=,2SN+1,3NS+1,3NS+1,3NW+1,6DW=,4SE+1,6HSx-4,5SWx-1,5SW-1,4SE=,4SE=,4SS+1,4SS+2,4SN=,4SN=| pn|Wikner,Lev,Tornqvist,Pszczola,Meckstroth,Cullin,Rodwell,Upmark|pg|| qx|o11|st||md|1S7H6DJT43CAQJ6532,SAQJT96HQT852D2C9,SK84HA74DA986CKT8,S532HKJ93DKQ75C74|sv|o|mb|3C|mb|3S|nt|cenglund: Hello everybody|pg|| mb|3N|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|pelu: Hi Christer|pg|| mb|p|nt|cenglund: Hi Peter|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c4|pc|cA|pc|c9|pg|| nt|pelu: Here we have No 1 - Kamras against nO 4 - but at safe in KO, but the first 8 can pick their opponents (from 9-32)|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h8|pc|hA|pc|h3|pg|| nt|pelu: both safe|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hJ|pc|s7|pc|h2|pg|| nt|athene: hi good afternoon everyone|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|dA|nt|pelu: Mech/well in 5!x X|pg|| pc|d5|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h9|pc|c2|pc|h5|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c11|st||md|1S7H6DJT43CAQJ6532,SAQJT96HQT852D2C9,SK84HA74DA986CKT8,S532HKJ93DKQ75C74|sv|o|nt|blum1956: hi all|pg|| nt|hedyg: good afternoon and welcome back to the 5th European Open Championships, Poznan, Poland. A Swiss teams ,Round 5/7, 10 boards / round|pg|| mb|3C|nt|roswolf: std pre-empt|pg|| nt|hedyg: great!|pg|| mb|4C|nt|hedyg: good morning and welcome back to the 5th European Open Championships, Poznan, Poland. A Swiss teams ,Round 4/7, 10 boards / round|pg|| nt|hedyg: welcome Geoffrey Wolfarth |pg|| nt|glen: hi Hedy, Geoffrey|pg|| nt|hedyg: and Glen :)|pg|| nt|roswolf: hello:)|pg|| nt|roswolf: action bd to start|pg|| nt|3for3: Hi all|pg|| mb|d|mb|4H|nt|hedyg: our operator is Tadeusz|pg|| nt|roswolf: hi all|pg|| nt|hedyg: welcome Geoffrey Wolfarth |pg|| nt|hedyg: hi Danny :) ty for joining!|pg|| nt|roswolf: hi danny|pg|| nt|3for3: 4|pg|| mb|5C|mb|p|nt|hedyg: good afternoon and welcome back to the 5th European Open Championships, Poznan, Poland. A Swiss teams ,Round 6/7, 10 boards / round|pg|| nt|hedyg: our operator is Tadeusz|pg|| nt|hedyg: welcome Geoffrey Wolfarth |pg|| nt|roswolf: hi all|pg|| nt|hedyg: http://www.bbotv.com/vugraph/ for BBO TV since BBO mobile is not working|pg|| mb|p|nt|roswolf: :)gm hedy|pg|| nt|hedyg: our operator is Tadeusz|pg|| nt|granguru: hi all|pg|| nt|granguru: hi hedy|pg|| nt|glen: what should S lead?|pg|| mb|d|nt|ntmon: hi to everyone|pg|| nt|MolvaM: hello all|pg|| nt|hedyg: hi John|pg|| nt|glen: hi Murat :)|pg|| nt|MolvaM: hi Hedy, John|pg|| nt|MolvaM: hi Glen|pg|| nt|hedyg: Murat :)|pg|| nt|roswolf: hi everyone|pg|| nt|glen: S attacks the 6-5 suit|pg|| nt|glen: only 6 stoppers since suit splits|pg|| nt|granguru: I feel Jxxx is the worst lead to make in a 3NT contract|pg|| nt|hedyg: http://www.bbotv.com/vugraph/ for BBO TV since BBO mobile is not working|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|blum1956: 5 nj 6 tricks probably|pg|| nt|roswolf: normal contract|pg|| nt|hedyg: i feel 4th from longest and strongest works best except from an ace|pg|| nt|3for3: 4@C will find hearts, but at the cost of being too high. Meck likeds the double fit potential|pg|| pc|d2|nt|roswolf: a very sharp double|pg|| nt|hedyg: system summary for EW: http://usbf.org/index2.php?option=com_teamforms&task=display&pop=1&page=0&fid=763&pid=193|pg|| nt|dburn: that was pretty well judged by East|pg|| nt|roswolf: seems pretty normal bur the play is the thing|pg|| nt|hedyg: fficial website is : http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg|| nt|roswolf: yes david - pity he is still anonymous|pg|| nt|hedyg: http://www.bbotv.com/vugraph/ for BBO TV since BBO mobile is not working|pg|| nt|3for3: obvious singleton lead.|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d5|nt|granguru: partner must have around 8 points so my first choice is @d10 then a small @C|pg|| pc|d3|pg|| nt|ntmon: Open teams, 3rd round of Swiss just started|pg|| nt|athene: hi good morning everyone|pg|| nt|roswolf: always lead a major against this bidding :) mind you i would have led a spade:(|pg|| nt|dburn: mind you, he may wish he had a spade higher than the eight|pg|| pc|cK|nt|hedyg: and i strongly dislike leading from a doubleton if pd didnt bid the suit|pg|| nt|glen: small @C would produce -400|pg|| pc|c4|nt|hedyg: BBO mobile is still not working so pls use: http://www.bbotv.com/vugraph/|pg|| nt|hedyg: hi Bill|pg|| nt|roswolf: hi bill|pg|| nt|roswolf: north thinks safety first|pg|| pc|c2|nt|blum1956: 5 to 6|pg|| pc|c9|pg|| pc|c8|nt|roswolf: so we would have all let this through:)|pg|| nt|hedyg: results and running scores: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswleaderb.html|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cA|pc|s6|pg|| nt|jcomyn: no problem with this but brave bid|pg|| pc|h6|nt|hedyg: running scores: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswrunda7.html|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|h3|pg|| nt|hedyg: hi David :)|pg|| pc|h4|nt|dburn: but not now - Meckstroth needed to start eliminating the hearts|pg|| pc|hK|pc|c3|pc|h5|pg|| pc|s7|nt|hedyg: running scores: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswleaderb.html|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s2|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|roswolf: 3ntx may well have made|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s3|nt|MolvaM: so the target at the end of today is to stay at the top 27 in group A, and top 5 in group B|pg|| pc|d4|pg|| nt|granguru: nice deception|pg|| nt|dburn: then, he could have reached a position where he threw a diamond on the king of spades, and another on the eight|pg|| nt|dburn: and another on the ruff and discard that West would have had to give him|pg|| mc|10|nt|hedyg: i will get the CCs|pg|| nt|roswolf: looks -1 for a 5 imp pickup for kamras|pg|| nt|hedyg: EW CC: http://www.ecatsbridge.org/documents/files/ConventionCards/2008Pau-european/OpenTeams/Sweden/cullin-upmark.pdf|pg|| pg|| qx|o12|st||md|2SA5H8642D3CA98743,SJT9842HQJDKJ65C6,SK63HA53DQ94CKJ52,SQ7HKT97DAT872CQT|sv|n|nt|cenglund: A peaceful sequence given the wild distributions|pg|| mb|2D!|mb|d|mb|2S|mb|3C|mb|p|nt|cenglund: A lucky board for the Swedes|pg|| nt|pelu: Ns could easy come in 3Nt - down 1 on a @D-lead|pg|| mb|p|nt|pelu: 3!X positiv - with a weak hand first 2Nt (lebensohl)|pg|| mb|3H|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|pelu: 3Nt or 4@c?|pg|| mb|p|nt|pelu: pass?? - thats not winning bridge|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|d9|pc|dT|pg|| nt|cenglund: Now all delarers's worries are over|pg|| pc|s7|nt|pelu: but down 1 on @D-ruff|pg|| nt|athene: well, all his worries except the diamond ruff|pg|| nt|athene: south obviously felt that he had shown his hand already with 3@C|pg|| nt|cenglund: Sure, the ruff is unavoidable|pg|| nt|athene: at MP you would be much less happy about passing 3@S because one or even two down is no use if you can make a partscore your way|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s3|pg|| nt|athene: but at imps, you can take +50 and that is not so bad|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c6|nt|pelu: he has shown his values but not the very fine distribution|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cT|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d2|pc|s5|pc|d6|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pc|h7|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d7|pc|c3|pc|dJ|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c12|st||md|2SA5H8642D3CA98743,SJT9842HQJDKJ65C6,SK63HA53DQ94CKJ52,SQ7HKT97DAT872CQT|sv|n|nt|hedyg: 3@H X in OR|pg|| nt|granguru: declarer saved 2 potential tricks|pg|| nt|hedyg: E thinking, has not passed yet|pg|| nt|hedyg: results and running scores: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswrunda6.html|pg|| mb|2D|an| |nt|hedyg: EW CC: http://www.ecatsbridge.org/documents/files/ConventionCards/2010Ostend-european/OpenTeams/israel/ronpa-gino.pdf|pg|| nt|hedyg: and EW landed in 5@d|pg|| mb|d|nt|ntmon: @S partscore to EW|pg|| nt|MolvaM: 27+5 = 32 teams will qualify for the knockouts. members of the eliminated teams can enjoy the open pairs event starting tomorrow|pg|| nt|dburn: but this match will be fast - both teams are sure to qualify, there is no carry-over, so they will save their energies for the knock-out stages|pg|| nt|hedyg: NS CC: http://www.ecatsbridge.org/documents/files/ConventionCards/2009BermudaBowlBrazil/bermudabowl/usa2/meckstroth-rodwell.pdf|pg|| mb|r|an| |nt|hedyg: NS CC: http://www.ecatsbridge.org/documents/files/ConventionCards/2010Ostend-european/OpenTeams/italy/bocchi-madala.pdf|pg|| nt|roswolf: is that supposed to be a rubbish multi?|pg|| nt|hedyg: 2@d= multi, 2M= 10-13|pg|| nt|roswolf: rdbl =diamonds?|pg|| nt|hedyg: so this is max 9 hcps|pg|| nt|dburn: well, rubbish is as rubbish goes - that's pretty sound, not vulnerable in first seat|pg|| nt|hedyg: i never consider a 6-4 hand as rubbish anyhow|pg|| nt|roswolf: ok bid your suit is the consensus for rdbl|pg|| nt|hedyg: pass would show @ds, not XX|pg|| nt|dburn: but I would be surprised to find that redouble showed diamonds|pg|| nt|dburn: some play that redoubled means "I don't want to compete" - they would bid 2@s to mean "I want to compete in hearts, but not spades"|pg|| nt|roswolf: americans have a marked weakness against the multi -i t is extremely discouraged in the state|pg|| nt|3for3: that is how we play the redouble. not sure it is best. since they are often in trouble when they enter with balanced garbage|pg|| nt|hedyg: there is no carryover to the round of 32|pg|| nt|roswolf: you would hope meckwell at least have sensible methods|pg|| nt|3for3: they do play sensible methods. but doubling 2@D is not free, especially when the partner of the multi has some diamond length|pg|| nt|hedyg: to pass with @ds is normal i believe as E|pg|| nt|hedyg: with 6+ @ds|pg|| nt|roswolf: i would ignore the rdbl and bid 3@C SHOWING VALUES + clubs(going via leb would be weaker)|pg|| nt|3for3: meck usually isnt this slow|pg|| nt|roswolf: hmm is south choosing between 3@C OR 4@c?|pg|| nt|dburn: he may be asking questions of West, of course|pg|| mb|3C|mb|p|nt|woozle: 6NT has chances with a spade lead - four spades, three hearts, three diamonds, one club and a squeeze on south|pg|| nt|jcomyn: but ns might get busy in h|pg|| nt|hedyg: EW CC: http://www.ecatsbridge.org/documents/files/ConventionCards/2010Ostend-european/OpenTeams/italy/duboin-sementa.pdf|pg|| nt|MolvaM: 2s was intermediate?|pg|| nt|hedyg: specs tell me XX used to be bid your major for EW|pg|| nt|3for3: it might be west who is thinking, but i doubt it.|pg|| nt|3for3: usually these auctions are fairly automatic for the multi side.|pg|| nt|roswolf: i had assumed that rodwell's dbl showed 12-15 bal or very strong -does anyone know for sure?|pg|| nt|dburn: doesn't look as though redouble was diamonds, at any rate - West would have bid if it did|pg|| nt|3for3: i would bet with you |pg|| nt|hedyg: for sure|pg|| mb|3N|nt|ntmon: but higher suit probably wins|pg|| nt|dburn: but 3@c was obviously value-showing, given North's 3NT|pg|| mb|p|nt|woozle: Fiona Brown is very cautious with her barren 11|pg|| nt|roswolf: aggressive reopening by north|pg|| mb|p|nt|MolvaM: 10-13 I am told ok|pg|| nt|roswolf: some may have doubled as east-t/o of course|pg|| nt|MolvaM: or 11-13 I am also told :)|pg|| nt|roswolf: well 6@C here on ice|pg|| nt|hedyg: i have no CC for NS, soemthing between SEF and 2/1|pg|| nt|roswolf: 6nt from east cold as well|pg|| mb|p|nt|jcomyn: not yet|pg|| nt|hedyg: lead 4th from longest!|pg|| nt|dburn: and I suppose he might make it, if East doesn't lead a diamond|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|3for3: 3nt is reasonable spot. the diamond stopper looks weak, but as long as the clubs run, you just need AK@D in one hand or no @D lead|pg|| nt|hedyg: 9 tricks|pg|| nt|3for3: they got the latter...|pg|| pc|sA|nt|ntmon: .. now :)|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Wikner/Kamras: http://www.svenskbridge.se/e107_files/tavling/deklarationer/AWJK1.pdf|pg|| pc|s2|nt|roswolf: this may not play too well|pg|| pc|s3|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c6|nt|woozle: four rounds of spades now will put South through the wringer|pg|| nt|athene: bocchi knows his side has a fit - if opps have a 9-card fit you are guaranteed an 8-card fit at least - but that doesn't mean you will find it|pg|| nt|hedyg: some might bid 4@S with the W hand once he knows about 4 card support since he has no valid defense vs 4@H except the trumps|pg|| nt|roswolf: this can be defeated|pg|| nt|roswolf: the swedes on the first bd bid to 5@D for a game swing|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cT|pg|| nt|blum1956: A player of the team which is in best 8 will hardly lead a spade against 6NT|pg|| nt|hedyg: ty Roland :)|pg|| nt|MolvaM: the bidding could well go 1@s-2@s-4@S at other tables|pg|| nt|roswolf: true|pg|| nt|roswolf: i have seen it said that at expert level you should never lead pard's major but lead your own suit and this hand is a good example of why|pg|| mc|9|nt|VugraphPLA: TD was called by Upmark|pg|| nt|hedyg: surely he called TD cause 3NT was bid after a longgggggg huddle by S|pg|| nt|3for3: does the slow bid demonstrably suggest 3nt by Rodwell?|pg|| nt|hedyg: the TD will decide that|pg|| nt|roswolf: in my view yes 3nt is much safer when pard huddles|pg|| nt|hedyg: in the mean time i had received some messages from kibs about the 3NT bid after a long huddle|pg|| nt|3for3: it may be safer. but it needs to be DEMONSTRABLY suggested...the law's words, not mine|pg|| nt|roswolf: yes it again looks that americans cant deal with the multi:)|pg|| nt|dburn: no more than an in-tempo 3@c bid would, I imagine - but we are not the Director, of course|pg|| pg|| qx|o13|st||md|3SQT982HKQ42DJ82C5,S3H965DK9764CJT43,SK74HJT8DQT5CAK62,SAJ65HA73DA3CQ987|sv|b|nt|pelu: partscore hand for Ns in 2@s|pg|| mb|1C|mb|d|mb|1H!|mb|2D|nt|pelu: do u all X - I would bid 1NT|pg|| mb|d|an|3 !S|mb|p|nt|cenglund: Me too|pg|| nt|athene: many players seem to double rather than bidding 1nt quite often|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h6|nt|athene: here east maybe thinks he has not enough playing strength - or maybe they play 1nt to show 5 diamonds and a 4 card major|pg|| nt|athene: not so much need for that over 1@C opener though you would think|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|d5|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d8|pc|dK|pc|dT|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dQ|pc|s5|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h4|pc|h5|pc|h8|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s6|nt|cenglund: Now is the moment of truth|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s3|pg|| pc|s2|pc|h9|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg|| nt|pelu: ok 110|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c13|st||md|3SQT982HKQ42DJ82C5,S3H965DK9764CJT43,SK74HJT8DQT5CAK62,SAJ65HA73DA3CQ987|sv|b|nt|roswolf: agreed since he was in 3|pg|| nt|MolvaM: so that 4@s wont make|pg|| mb|1D|mb|d|nt|woozle: Brown has an exciting hand but best defense can beat 4S|pg|| nt|roswolf: an imp is an imp is an imp so said a great player once|pg|| nt|hedyg: the official site is: http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg|| mb|2H|nt|mcarroll: This will certainly see Major suit action|pg|| nt|roswolf: i believe you danny|pg|| mb|p|nt|ntmon: 4@S now by NS|pg|| nt|jcomyn: will they get to 6|pg|| nt|roswolf: 4@H is normal here|pg|| nt|roswolf: another transfer|pg|| mb|2S|nt|roswolf: anothr transfer|pg|| mb|p|nt|roswolf: might inhibit the nat @H overcall by east |pg|| nt|3for3: 2@H reverse flannery|pg|| mb|p|nt|woozle: South's 2D looks competitively inadequate, not that it matters much here|pg|| nt|jcomyn: tempting|pg|| mb|p|pc|c8|pc|c5|nt|blum1956: Probably it is a @h raise|pg|| nt|roswolf: may be showing 3@H support - the transfer shows 4+ in hearts|pg|| pc|c3|nt|roswolf: i would lead a club|pg|| nt|roswolf: the @SQ is looking for a brillancy prize|pg|| pc|cA|pg|| nt|roswolf: but it depends on what double by eric showed - if a weak nt then it may well be assuming a club fit - but we must remember that defence could have defeated it|pg|| nt|hedyg: 2@H not alerted?|pg|| nt|wstuart: sleeping actually|pg|| pc|sK|nt|woozle: No doubt, and a toothpick is a weapon but it's not really adequate for a duel|pg|| pc|sA|nt|jcomyn: but resisted|pg|| nt|roswolf: i am told 1@c-1@d-1@h=3@h unball,1nt=2/3@hball|pg|| nt|roswolf: another vul game bash|pg|| nt|hedyg: 1st we bid it, then we try to make it|pg|| pc|s8|nt|ntmon: S would need @D8 instead of @D7|pg|| pc|s3|pg|| pc|c7|nt|roswolf: yup|pg|| nt|roswolf: to try and set up hearts looks natural not that it will work|pg|| nt|hedyg: not enough transportation|pg|| nt|hedyg: and also the 3rd @s in the N hand|pg|| nt|roswolf: true but if 3-3 then enough|pg|| nt|hedyg: if there is a way Pepsi will find it|pg|| nt|roswolf: dd it is doomed i am told - looks it to me in practice as well|pg|| pc|d2|pc|c4|nt|athene: this is a funny auction then - how did Bocchi know his partner had five hearts>|pg|| pc|cK|pg|| nt|athene: ?|pg|| pc|s7|nt|mcarroll: making now|pg|| nt|woozle: Brown had two options - lead the club early before the opponents know you have eight trumps, or run trumps and try to put on pressure|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s2|nt|ntmon: or @D lead|pg|| pc|d4|pg|| nt|athene: maybe he didn't|pg|| mc|9|nt|blum1956: Maybe it were better to play the @cQ before trumps|pg|| nt|roswolf: pepsi is east's nickname |pg|| pg|| qx|o14|st||md|4SQ7HQJ752DJ2CAT93,S6HA9864DQ87CKQ75,SAK854HK3DAK63CJ4,SJT932HTDT954C862|sv|o|nt|cenglund: Well done, good card reading|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1H|nt|pelu: Rodwell in 3Nt Board 12 - all on the lead|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|nt|pelu: @SQ|pg|| mb|p|nt|pelu: so 11 for Mahaffey|pg|| mb|2C|nt|athene: 1nt definitely an option for south with the relatively weak hearts|pg|| nt|athene: now north can pass happily if it's forcing|pg|| nt|athene: but that is not at all clear|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|nt|athene: south might just have very good hearts and nothing else and be about to pass 2@C out|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c5|nt|pelu: I have seen this bidding severel times here - for me that 2@S = a 6 card suit or a stronger hand|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c8|pc|cT|pg|| nt|pelu: that was the 9. trick|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|hK|pc|hT|pg|| pc|h3|nt|athene: well declarer has three spades, and two in each of the others for nine easily|pg|| pc|c6|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg|| nt|athene: and he should come to an overtrick one way or another|pg|| nt|cenglund: Probably a push board|pg|| nt|athene: west just has too much to guard|pg|| nt|athene: clubs, diamonds and hearts too|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cJ|pc|c2|pc|cA|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h6|pc|d3|pc|s2|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|dA|pc|d4|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|s6|pg|| pc|s7|pc|c7|pc|sA|pc|s3|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s9|pc|c3|pc|h8|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c14|st||md|4SQ7HQJ752DJ2CAT93,S6HA9864DQ87CKQ75,SAK854HK3DAK63CJ4,SJT932HTDT954C862|sv|o|nt|hedyg: i am afraid when the CC was made last year they were not yet playing transfers over the 1@c opening, thus no explanations|pg|| nt|roswolf: what 3@H would mean is a mystery:)|pg|| nt|athene: ok so with a 3nt bid and only four hearts, south would have done something else|pg|| nt|athene: garozzo responds 2@C on strong balanced hands with a 4-card major|pg|| nt|athene: the idea is to conceal the major if you don't have a 4-4 fit|pg|| nt|athene: so if you respond showing a major then bid 3nt you promise 5|pg|| nt|roswolf: another kibber suggests they may use 3@S rebid by south as puppet to 3nt|pg|| nt|athene: looks as though NS are doing the same sort of thing|pg|| nt|MolvaM: nice hand.|pg|| nt|hedyg: wd for -1?|pg|| nt|dburn: delay perhaps caused by return of Director to table|pg|| nt|3for3: south made an interesting pass of the double of 1@H in CR. Terrible heart spots. I'd have bid some number of NT myself|pg|| nt|VugraphPLA: They will talk with TD after the match |pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|MolvaM: we would be happy if a few voids would be there but ok :)|pg|| nt|glen: on bd 22, Tokay, S in other room, started trumps with ace for +140 and 5 imps|pg|| mb|1H|nt|jcomyn: 3C|pg|| nt|ntmon: 2@S alerted but looks like sign-off|pg|| nt|roswolf: on 22 in 3@S DECLARER DID PLAY ACE AND ANOR TRUMP|pg|| nt|MolvaM: welldone tokay :)|pg|| mb|d|nt|roswolf: great minds eh glen!?:)|pg|| nt|glen: hey, canadians own "eh"|pg|| nt|roswolf: well 3nt seems routine by west|pg|| mb|p|nt|jcomyn: boy what happens now|pg|| nt|ntmon: when opps bid 2 suits and we look for 3NT, we bid the suit we have stopped |pg|| nt|hedyg: 2@d= 4+|pg|| nt|roswolf: a difficult salm to reach 6@D seems clearly superior|pg|| nt|athene: NS can bid lots of hearts but that will only encourage east to bid a slam|pg|| nt|hedyg: ok here is the CC for NS now: http://www.svenskbridge.se/e107_files/tavling/deklarationer/AWJKeng.pdf|pg|| nt|roswolf: this might be awkward for n/s|pg|| nt|hedyg: which is the awkward part?|pg|| mb|1N|nt|ntmon: but i agree .. NS on the way to problems|pg|| nt|roswolf: the heart lead against nt is marked lucky east has 10xxx|pg|| nt|hedyg: getting to grand?|pg|| mb|p|nt|woozle: At the other table, North switched to a diamond at trick two, but chose the lowest...South, duly misled, led one back|pg|| nt|athene: 6@S will make if the defence foolishly try to cash @HAK, but not if they switch to a club to take out the entry to the diamonds, of course|pg|| nt|glen: thanks Hedy, typical swedish cc, very little blank space left|pg|| nt|dburn: Kokish hasn't yet managed to persuade Rodwell to overcall 1@s instead of doubling|pg|| mb|2S|nt|MolvaM: heart lead and low spade switch?|pg|| nt|granguru: and west @HJx|pg|| mb|p|nt|jcomyn: like well into the soup|pg|| nt|jcomyn: I'm still bidding 3c on the s hand before you have your blood spilled|pg|| nt|MolvaM: oh then @sA disappears|pg|| nt|roswolf: slam is on in many denominations and level is difficult to judge too|pg|| mb|2N|nt|ntmon: the only problem with 3@C is that should not be enough |pg|| nt|ntmon: at least they're on the same wavelenght|pg|| nt|roswolf: advance sac taken|pg|| nt|hedyg: XX doesnt even start to show this hand|pg|| nt|hedyg: it really makes no difference to their qualifications|pg|| mb|p|nt|hedyg: still 9 tricks|pg|| nt|hedyg: ok, now 4@d|pg|| nt|roswolf: i agree hedy|pg|| nt|3for3: kokish basically believes there is no hand too strong to overcall. Rodwell doesn't see it that way here|pg|| mb|3N|nt|MolvaM: even if misguess|pg|| nt|hedyg: right|pg|| nt|hedyg: anything is fine as long as they avoid 5@ds|pg|| mb|p|nt|roswolf: yup i think duboin was taking the time to light the proverbial cigarette|pg|| mb|p|nt|jcomyn: much of a muchness|pg|| nt|glen: i thought they played for lavazza and coffee|pg|| mb|p|nt|roswolf: the grand is missed i fear|pg|| nt|hedyg: Thomas thinks XX shows 3 @ss only|pg|| nt|hedyg: with 4 card fit and singleton @c he had other bids available|pg|| nt|roswolf: meckwell will probably have a similar challenge in the other room|pg|| pc|cK|nt|blum1956: clear pass for North on 2@s from my point of view, but Pszczola is a world champion which I am not|pg|| nt|MolvaM: he could get 6 proverbial IMPs fine for that :)|pg|| nt|hedyg: strange not to correct to @s|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c8|pc|cA|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c5|pc|cJ|nt|roswolf: seems to gain a few imps|pg|| pc|c6|pg|| nt|mcarroll: they did well to stop below game, but even this is probably not going to make|pg|| pc|hK|nt|hedyg: seems Madala decided they would take no @H tricks if EW played|pg|| nt|glen: and the cash out stops at 4 tricks|pg|| nt|hedyg: better cash the K@H now|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h2|nt|ntmon: reaching 4@H X would not be problem on tables, where W passes and E opens with @S preeemt|pg|| nt|roswolf: well that may mean an imp to the israelis|pg|| pc|h6|pg|| nt|hedyg: they took all their tricks|pg|| nt|dburn: always depressing for a defender when declarer wins your opening lead and swiftly returns the suit|pg|| pc|h3|nt|3for3: especially at NT!|pg|| pc|c2|nt|woozle: Fiona did well on lead with a trump...a heart (or club) lead would have cost a trick|pg|| nt|hedyg: it is like an insult|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|blum1956: as opposite to 2@s which is makeable|pg|| pc|hA|pg|| pc|s6|nt|roswolf: nothing is much better here|pg|| nt|3for3: I like a low club better than the king|pg|| nt|dburn: happens to me all the time - my partner's card at trick one is suit preference, to tell me what I should have led|pg|| nt|roswolf: lol|pg|| nt|hedyg: lol|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s9|pc|s7|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sQ|nt|hedyg: running scores: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswrunda7.html|pg|| pc|c7|pc|s4|pg|| nt|3for3: both of these teams will surely qualify for the KO's. Kamras was leading the field entering this match|pg|| nt|dburn: still, if he then plays on the suit you opened the bidding in, you can resign yourself to the fact that he'd probably have made it anyway|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cQ|pc|s5|pc|s3|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dA|nt|hedyg: Mahaffey in 2nd, Kamras in 3rd now|pg|| pc|d4|nt|ntmon: i wouldn't left 4@H undoubled|pg|| pc|d2|pg|| nt|hedyg: Monaco A in the lead|pg|| mc|10|nt|jcomyn: yes thats a real mystery|pg|| pg|| qx|o15|st||md|1S953HKT762DT82CQ3,SKHQ95DA765CAJT42,SQ864HJ8DQJC98765,SAJT72HA43DK943CK|sv|n|mb|p|nt|pelu: ok 3Nt again - this time EW|pg|| mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|nt|cenglund: A peace of cake|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dQ|nt|pelu: not a killing lead|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|dA|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dJ|pc|d4|pc|d8|pg|| nt|athene: slightly odd to return the diamond; you would expect declarer to go for the black suits|pg|| nt|athene: well, he can't really fail to make a lot of tricks anyway|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cK|pc|c3|pc|c2|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|s4|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|h3|pc|cQ|pg|| nt|cenglund: I guess It's a matter of 2 overtricks|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c6|pc|h4|pc|h2|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c7|pc|s7|pc|h6|pg|| pc|d6|pc|h8|pc|dK|pc|dT|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|c4|pc|s6|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s9|pc|h5|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|c8|pc|d9|pc|h7|pc|d5|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c15|st||md|1S953HKT762DT82CQ3,SKHQ95DA765CAJT42,SQ864HJ8DQJC98765,SAJT72HA43DK943CK|sv|n|nt|woozle: Maybe 4S here for EW, but there's work involved|pg|| nt|ntmon: the wrong result for Monacco atributed to their EW pair in OR|pg|| nt|athene: better lead a diamond against 6@H here|pg|| nt|granguru: 1Nt or 2@D NS|pg|| mb|p|nt|roswolf: yes for once not a lot of scope for action|pg|| mb|1D|nt|mcarroll: Lots of work|pg|| nt|mcarroll: lots of work needed|pg|| nt|ntmon: leader changes after each board |pg|| nt|athene: shouldn't be too hard though|pg|| nt|roswolf: another distributional fit|pg|| nt|roswolf: another pretty hand but only enough for game|pg|| mb|p|mb|1S|nt|woozle: only two certain losers, but I'm not sure how many winners|pg|| nt|roswolf: well the @D lead signposted|pg|| nt|athene: 3@D is GF raise with singleton|pg|| nt|roswolf: 3@D shows 1 singleton(unspecified) + gf i am told|pg|| nt|athene: some specs might be wondering why east didn't just double|pg|| mb|p|nt|athene: there are two possible explanations|pg|| mb|2C|an| |nt|jcomyn: finding h here will be tricky|pg|| nt|jcomyn: and game on|pg|| nt|athene: firstly they might play x as t/o of hearts (unlikely)|pg|| nt|glen: the modern style: bid five card majors, count points later|pg|| nt|hedyg: 1NT= semi-forcing|pg|| nt|hedyg: 2NT general gametrial..|pg|| nt|dburn: 6@d has some sort of play - not sure how good a contract it is|pg|| mb|p|nt|athene: secondly he just wants to emphasize he has real playing strength in diamonds so there might be a sac|pg|| nt|glen: the semi-forcing NT allows for opener, once having counted points, to pass to avoid trouble|pg|| nt|hedyg: the term semi-forcing will always be a puzzle to me|pg|| nt|roswolf: this seems easy +90|pg|| nt|hedyg: thus it is NOT forcing?|pg|| nt|hedyg: or just 4@H|pg|| mb|2H|an| |nt|athene: whereas a lead-directing double could be as little as @DKQ10x or so|pg|| mb|p|nt|dburn: trumps 3-2 plus some work, I guess|pg|| mb|2N|nt|ntmon: much depends on methods now|pg|| nt|hedyg: notice no XX from Gino to show Kx in @D|pg|| nt|hedyg: i mean: it is either forcing or it isnt?|pg|| nt|granguru: correct|pg|| nt|MolvaM: so 1NT conventionally asks for point count? :)|pg|| nt|hedyg: ok ty|pg|| nt|roswolf: well your supposed to bid again if you have a decent hand very like drury without the guaranteed trump support|pg|| nt|hedyg: , see above |pg|| nt|glen: semi-forcing is a terrible term, but was meant to distinguish between 1NT not-forcing limited to about 10 pts, and the modern style where it can have game invite values|pg|| mb|p|nt|blum1956: not enough entries to make the @d s work and too bad @h distribution to crossruff effectively|pg|| nt|woozle: On the last board, Harding in the other room tried 3NT with the matching 4333s - down one also, but had chances for 10 in|pg|| nt|roswolf: brakes need to be applied now|pg|| nt|roswolf: simple auction|pg|| mb|3D|nt|hedyg: it is a terrible term indeed|pg|| nt|roswolf: but rarely does in my experience|pg|| nt|granguru: for me semif means "you may pass if you have a sub min hand or a min with a bal distr"|pg|| mb|p|nt|3for3: i'd say more than some :)|pg|| nt|3for3: but the black JT's are very useful|pg|| nt|hedyg: iv) For the KO stage, teams not in the first eight rankings in the Swiss A are re-ranked from 9-32 according to seeding based on WBF/EBL masterpoints. The teams ranked 1-8 in the ...|pg|| nt|hedyg: Swiss A, in order, each pick a team from the rest of the teams seeded 9 to 32. After these first eight choices the right to select the opponent passes to the highest remaining ...|pg|| nt|hedyg: seeded team and so on until the bracket is completed. For the purposes of composing brackets the number in the bracket is |pg|| nt|hedyg: determined by the order of the selection|pg|| nt|dburn: if North leads a heart, you have to commit yourself at once - if he doesn't, you have some breathing room|pg|| mb|4N|nt|roswolf: OTT|pg|| nt|athene: i guess one other advantage for 4@D over double is it takes some room away from opps|pg|| mb|p|nt|dburn: 6@d by East may be better than 6@d by West for that reason, but there's not a lot the Swedes can do about that now|pg|| mb|6D|mb|p|nt|mcarroll: which red suit to try is the question|pg|| mb|p|nt|ntmon: very lucky for NS|pg|| mb|p|nt|woozle: A bit sad here that the third diamond will be ruffed with the short defensive trumps|pg|| nt|dburn: if Rodwell does lead a heart, he should choose the eight and not the jack|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|dburn: since he probably would not lead the jack from KJ|pg|| nt|dburn: now, though, declarer may need to pick a black suit|pg|| nt|hedyg: easier for us, as usual|pg|| nt|3for3: those black suits look very similar..|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|nt|athene: ok, it looks here as though madala has shown a diamond control|pg|| pc|h5|pg|| nt|roswolf: i think n/s were reckless here although who was to blame we may never know|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|c5|pg|| pc|s2|nt|jcomyn: sure is i would find KJ10 on my left|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|s4|pg|| nt|hedyg: as 1 spec says, declarer can test BOTH black suits|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|h3|pc|cQ|pg|| nt|hedyg: voila|pg|| nt|hedyg: now pull 2 trumps|pg|| nt|dburn: he can play for a doubleton queen in either black suit, yes|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dJ|pc|dK|nt|jcomyn: interesting b idding in open room to 4h|pg|| pc|d2|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d8|pc|dA|pc|dQ|pg|| nt|3for3: now he has to worry about 4-1 diamonds, not sure he can do a thing about that though.|pg|| pc|cJ|nt|ntmon: OR bidding unclear to me - unless 1@D shows @H|pg|| pc|c7|pc|h4|nt|hedyg: can claim now|pg|| pc|s5|pg|| nt|hedyg: ruff 2 losers, disc 1|pg|| pc|cT|nt|mcarroll: Sad indeed|pg|| pc|c8|pc|s7|nt|3for3: if south had stiff honor, might have been able to handle it. but no problems here..|pg|| pc|s9|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h8|pc|d4|pc|h6|pg|| pc|sA|mc|12|pg|| qx|o16|st||md|2SJ73HAKJT962D4C86,SQ2H7543DKJT2CK94,S654HQ8DA87CQT753,SAKT98HDQ9653CAJ2|sv|e|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|cenglund: It looks a cold diamond slam|pg|| nt|athene: lev has a tricky decision after the double|pg|| nt|athene: maybe you bid 4@H choice of games|pg|| nt|cenglund: The pre-emption of the opposition makes it hard to find|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|d|nt|cenglund: N-S is giving a lot leeway for further exploration of the slam|pg|| nt|athene: 4@H just says "well i want to play in game somewhere, not sure where" so you have to have fitting honours for all suits outside hearts|pg|| nt|athene: but not enough length in any one suit to commit to that suit|pg|| nt|cenglund: I still doubt that they land in 6D|pg|| nt|athene: now east might be thinking very mildly about 6@D but that is a lot to ask facing a passed partner|pg|| nt|pelu: I dont like the X from N - justr give extra space to EW|pg|| nt|athene: still, if he could ever get there, this bidding might help him|pg|| nt|cenglund: 6H is a good save|pg|| nt|athene: he knows west won't have three spades, probably, so there is no loser there even if they are missing the queen|pg|| nt|athene: and west won't have a heart honour|pg|| nt|athene: so they are playing with a 30 point deck|pg|| nt|athene: 6@D would be aggressive but not ridiculous|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|athene: oh well, it was not to be :(|pg|| nt|pelu: west could still have @HK and not @CK|pg|| nt|athene: no-one ever plays in a 5-4 minor suit fit if they have a 5-2 major suit fit :(|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dJ|pc|dA|pc|d6|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d3|pc|s7|pc|d2|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|hQ|pc|s8|pg|| nt|athene: one day the minor suits in all the decks of cards in the world are going to sulk and leave, and then where will we be? |pg|| nt|cenglund: A good try, but did not work this time|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s3|pc|sQ|pc|s4|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|sK|pc|h6|pc|h4|pc|s6|pg|| pc|d5|pc|hJ|pc|dK|pc|d8|pg|| pc|dT|pc|c7|pc|d9|pc|h9|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|c6|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c5|pc|cJ|pc|c8|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c16|st||md|2SJ73HAKJT962D4C86,SQ2H7543DKJT2CK94,S654HQ8DA87CQT753,SAKT98HDQ9653CAJ2|sv|e|nt|ntmon: anyway 2IMP for better game to Lavazza|pg|| nt|jcomyn: probably and then 3d forcing with at least 5-5|pg|| nt|hedyg: a Zia cuebid of 5@D|pg|| nt|athene: is bocchi teaching madala some interesting italian phrases at high speed now? if so, chances are, it was south's fault|pg|| nt|roswolf: another routine game hand|pg|| nt|glen: may see some italian science here|pg|| nt|granguru: but it has some second meaning here. idont have a great hand and 3cards to raise you|pg|| nt|hedyg: and new leader|pg|| nt|3for3: shall they try 6@D again?|pg|| mb|p|nt|roswolf: didnt work - it is good to see that the top players are also mere mortals:)|pg|| mb|p|nt|MolvaM: maybe the 4-1 trumps could bring some action|pg|| nt|roswolf: this could get feisty|pg|| nt|dburn: number 11 buses, these - you can't make six diamonds for hours, and then two come at once|pg|| mb|1S|nt|3for3: this looks better than the last one|pg|| mb|2H|nt|roswolf: or obsfuscation more like|pg|| mb|d|nt|hedyg: we have been seeing a lot of that|pg|| mb|r|an| |nt|hedyg: XX= Hx(x) in @H|pg|| mb|4D|nt|glen: 2@C is the science|pg|| mb|p|nt|3for3: 6@H a good save here.|pg|| mb|4H|nt|athene: 2@C is a reverse inverted minor - it shows a raise to the two-level|pg|| nt|roswolf: 2@c rather than 1@d was an interesting choice|pg|| nt|hedyg: bd 4 Fantunes in 7@s|pg|| nt|dburn: now, if West can bid 4@h as a sort of "last train" or "Bluhmer"...|pg|| mb|d|nt|glen: natural or 16/17+ many hand types|pg|| mb|r|nt|woozle: Pepsi bids only 2NT...he apparently has lower standards for vulnerable 2H bids than I do|pg|| nt|woozle: Seamon-Molson raises to say "yes, I did overcall vulnerable"|pg|| nt|mcarroll: and the @S Ten is a vital asset|pg|| nt|woozle: I suppose she would never have raised without it|pg|| nt|dburn: ...which apparently he can...|pg|| mb|p|nt|mcarroll: :)|pg|| nt|jcomyn: now thats aggressive but i suppose the 5-card suit is useful|pg|| nt|jcomyn: H lead?|pg|| nt|roswolf: nice contract|pg|| nt|dburn: ...then East-West have a chance|pg|| nt|hedyg: he knows his hcps, though not heavy , are good|pg|| nt|3for3: not sure what rodwell's double of 4@H was, but it will make it easier, as now east can show heart control.|pg|| nt|hedyg: Upmarks XX= 1st rd control|pg|| mb|6D|nt|ntmon: actually E hand is rather strong in 15-17 range|pg|| nt|ntmon: roles home now|pg|| nt|jcomyn: rolls even|pg|| nt|ntmon: rolls* :)|pg|| nt|glen: 2@S was natural, usually 2@Ss, less than 8|pg|| nt|roswolf: for once i understand their bidding:)|pg|| mb|p|nt|glen: 3@H was the big hand, natural|pg|| nt|hedyg: 2@c either nat or any strong hand|pg|| nt|hedyg: according to the CC|pg|| mb|p|nt|hedyg: then 3@H= strong hand with @s+@H|pg|| nt|hedyg: impressive bidding|pg|| mb|6H|nt|dburn: good bid, that|pg|| nt|3for3: well done ew|pg|| nt|dburn: still, even if West had only bid five, East might have bid six|pg|| mb|d|nt|roswolf: i didnt expect this contract|pg|| nt|roswolf: should go -1|pg|| nt|hedyg: would you bid 1NT as W over 1@D?|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|roswolf: no i wouldnt|pg|| nt|hedyg: hmm maybe that is a xfer too|pg|| nt|3for3: aha. the save is found.|pg|| pc|dT|nt|jcomyn: h lkead d switch and another h but who would find that|pg|| nt|roswolf: ah a natural raise you mean bill:)|pg|| nt|hedyg: "only" -5?|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d4|pg|| nt|dburn: only four, I think|pg|| nt|hedyg: oh only 4|pg|| nt|hedyg: cheap!|pg|| nt|3for3: 8 easy aces|pg|| pc|s4|nt|athene: it's good to see people raising clubs|pg|| nt|athene: doesn't happen often :)|pg|| nt|roswolf: yes of course they play transfers over 1@C -doh:(|pg|| pc|sK|nt|jcomyn: and bocchi-Madala found that defence in open room|pg|| pc|s7|nt|woozle: Fiona decided that spades aren't promising on lead, so tries a surprise attack in clubs. Pepsi is surprised, but not so surprised that he will forget to take his now ten top tricks|pg|| pc|s2|pg|| nt|ntmon: well deserved|pg|| nt|jcomyn: led d first and then h|pg|| nt|jcomyn: very good but i wont lead a s whatever else|pg|| pc|d3|pc|c6|nt|hedyg: fine bidding all around|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d7|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s5|nt|hedyg: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswleaderb.html|pg|| pc|sT|nt|MolvaM: kamras thinking?|pg|| nt|hedyg: hardly|pg|| nt|VugraphPLA: i did mistake , he should not have 7 of spade now |pg|| pc|s3|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d8|pc|d5|pc|h2|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h8|pc|c2|pg|| nt|ntmon: i have some sympathy - @S looks as a safe lead after invitational sequence|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o17|st||md|3S7HKQT954DT9765C5,SQJ54HA73DAQCJ983,S63HJ86DK3CAKQT76,SAKT982H2DJ842C42|sv|o|nt|vugraphpl5: running scored http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswrunda7.html|pg|| mb|1N|nt|athene: north sort of has a 1nt opener, maybe|pg|| nt|athene: well, rodwell in the other room might open it 1nt|pg|| mb|2D!|nt|pelu: B15 - we didnt see that, but there are some play for 6@D - and Kamras are there - @CQ x in is the winning sits|pg|| nt|athene: 4@d from south now if it's a transfer|pg|| mb|4H|mb|4S|mb|5H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|5S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|nt|pelu: The LAW say: 19 tricks - and now both sides on 5-level - 4@S/4@H = winning|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|cA|nt|cenglund: This should go down per force|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|c3|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c4|nt|athene: 5@S does look like a bit of an odd decision|pg|| pc|hK|pc|c8|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|sA|pc|h4|pc|c9|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s7|pc|s4|pc|s3|pg|| pc|s9|pc|d5|pc|s5|pc|s6|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d6|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pg|| mc|10|nt|pelu: 61D making|pg|| pg|| qx|c17|st||md|3S7HKQT954DT9765C5,SQJ54HA73DAQCJ983,S63HJ86DK3CAKQT76,SAKT982H2DJ842C42|sv|o|nt|woozle: Can make eleven tricks in spades EW by squeezing south in the red suits|pg|| nt|blum1956: If North opens a strong 1NT, what will West bid&|pg|| nt|blum1956: ?|pg|| nt|woozle: North much too strong for a strong notrump...although at favourable I might open 2NT|pg|| nt|woozle: A strong notrump is the second best preempt in bridge, after 2NT|pg|| nt|woozle: Is Pepsi deep in the tank, or is this a coffee break?|pg|| nt|blum1956: This time 1@c is the worst option for North - East may even preempt in @s s wich solves the problem for EW|pg|| nt|jcomyn: but nobody bid h - or s I suppose, so|pg|| nt|ntmon: Lavazza builds a sound, deserved lead|pg|| nt|MolvaM: better take the shortcut :)|pg|| nt|hedyg: ok np|pg|| nt|hedyg: just wanted to see if we were awake?|pg|| mb|1N|nt|Walddk4: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswrunda5.html running now|pg|| nt|3for3: certainly interesting hands..|pg|| mb|2D|an| |nt|athene: 4@D would be a splinter we assume|pg|| nt|athene: but he might not want to do that with a singleton ace|pg|| nt|roswolf: south will brush the intervention aside|pg|| nt|roswolf: this might be carnage|pg|| nt|hedyg: Mahaffey has dropped to 6th|pg|| nt|dburn: 2@d one major|pg|| nt|3for3: 4@D the other?|pg|| mb|4D|an| |nt|athene: 3@D will be a spade raise anyway; presumably 3@C would be hearts|pg|| nt|hedyg: unusual vs unusual|pg|| nt|3for3: :)|pg|| mb|p|nt|hedyg: 3@d showing invite + in @s|pg|| nt|roswolf: south should pass|pg|| nt|MolvaM: sementa's pass says what? I have diamonds? |pg|| nt|roswolf: they will play in 4@H|pg|| nt|hedyg: running scores: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswrunda6.html|pg|| nt|roswolf: the auction in the other room was ultimately a phantom|pg|| nt|dburn: Cullin lurking|pg|| mb|4H|nt|jcomyn: and can add toit here|pg|| nt|hedyg: 3@c would be invite + in @h|pg|| nt|roswolf: he has sufficient defence|pg|| nt|MolvaM: or just that he has nothing to say|pg|| mb|p|nt|woozle: Fiona, bids the routine (at this vul) 2S|pg|| nt|roswolf: to the limit for west|pg|| mb|p|nt|mcarroll: well predicted!|pg|| nt|roswolf: west must make his own arrangements|pg|| mb|4S|nt|woozle: McGann takes the quick path to game|pg|| nt|roswolf: good judgment|pg|| nt|athene: does bocchi have to find the diamond lead for 500 here?|pg|| nt|dburn: trying to look like a man saving in 4@s|pg|| mb|p|nt|hedyg: maybe this is a hand t show invite + in @H and when d bids @H bid @s to show both majors|pg|| nt|roswolf: the noose tightens|pg|| nt|hedyg: surely he has no 4 cards in any other suit than @d|pg|| nt|hedyg: some superbergen|pg|| mb|p|nt|athene: hmmm ok this looks as though bocchi made a forcing pass and now a slam try in spades which is surely a bit optimistic with his hand|pg|| nt|roswolf: south tempted to bid on!?|pg|| nt|MolvaM: duboins hand looked so good after rho opened 1@d. now it looks not so attractive|pg|| nt|hedyg: oy vey!|pg|| nt|roswolf: high noon shoot out|pg|| nt|glen: sementa rips up cards and leaves table|pg|| nt|MolvaM: a void usually means action|pg|| nt|roswolf: blood will flow but whose is not clear|pg|| nt|hedyg: why XX?|pg|| nt|glen: actual it is xxxx since previous xx|pg|| nt|hedyg: surely if Sementa had a better suit he would have bid it?|pg|| mb|5H|nt|roswolf: now dbl?|pg|| nt|dburn: Meckstroth has seen his sort before, though|pg|| nt|3for3: well, his hand suggests bidding too |pg|| nt|hedyg: 1NT= 14-16|pg|| nt|hedyg: it is an upgrade|pg|| nt|roswolf: or 13 actually:)|pg|| nt|hedyg: as usual in your singleton|pg|| mb|5S|nt|roswolf: good judgment again|pg|| nt|hedyg: trying to put N under pressure?|pg|| mb|p|nt|roswolf: will n/s run out of red cards|pg|| mb|p|nt|jcomyn: but very difficult|pg|| nt|ntmon: EW in OR might know that they're behind, so try to push|pg|| mb|p|nt|hedyg: passssssssssssssss|pg|| nt|hedyg: surely no need to correct to 2@H!|pg|| nt|roswolf: might give preference|pg|| nt|roswolf: oh well 2 imps to the swedes|pg|| pc|cK|nt|hedyg: cannot be a forcing pass opposite what might be just invite|pg|| nt|glen: i still think ripping up cards will result in lowest possible minus score|pg|| nt|MolvaM: well 8 card fit is better than nothing|pg|| nt|hedyg: oh no !|pg|| nt|hedyg: might try 3NT after X of 3@D?|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c5|nt|MolvaM: ahh it goes on|pg|| nt|roswolf: frying pan into fire|pg|| pc|c3|pg|| nt|athene: well it can be if you agree it is|pg|| pc|cA|nt|hedyg: what?|pg|| nt|MolvaM: 5 card fit now|pg|| nt|hedyg: are we watching the right board?|pg|| nt|glen: now there are fires, and there is this|pg|| nt|roswolf: this would be funny a5-0 fit|pg|| nt|hedyg: would be?|pg|| nt|roswolf: you shouldnt laugh at a funeral|pg|| nt|hedyg: ok folks! see? it can happen to anybody!|pg|| nt|MolvaM: if duboin had not rdbl'd it would have benn just ok|pg|| nt|hedyg: next time i play in my cuebid i must try to remember this moment|pg|| nt|roswolf: the italian will be x -rated in the post mortem|pg|| nt|MolvaM: looks like hand from the menagerie where both sides can play 2@dX|pg|| pc|c4|nt|roswolf: low trump to start|pg|| nt|granguru: diagnostic?|pg|| nt|glen: the best thing for NS to do after the hand is leave table, then come back when decibel level is below 120|pg|| nt|hedyg: call an ambulance|pg|| nt|granguru: --4?|pg|| nt|roswolf: gib says -7 dd|pg|| nt|granguru: ducking is best here|pg|| nt|hedyg: desperately looking for an entry to his hand|pg|| nt|roswolf: well if slam is on for n/s i still tale the penalty 1700|pg|| pc|hT|nt|Walddk5: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswrunda3.html|pg|| nt|roswolf: take|pg|| pc|c8|pg|| nt|hedyg: it is only when Madala doubles that he is better than invite|pg|| nt|3for3: a little chancy for cullin to double. is meck is 0-2 in the blacks, might be cold, or his side could be making. |pg|| nt|hedyg: just dont play @D|pg|| nt|hedyg: 10@H was discouraging|pg|| nt|hedyg: in this situation it just denies the ace|pg|| nt|hedyg: seemed easier to disc 10@D|pg|| pc|c7|pc|sT|nt|hedyg: if the 3@D bid had been gf, then it would have been a forcing pass|pg|| nt|athene: it's reasonable enough to play pass forcing if you showed at least game invite values and opps go to 5-level; 99% of the time they are advance saccing|pg|| pc|h4|nt|hedyg: too bad it isnt on?|pg|| pc|c9|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|s4|nt|roswolf: the vampires gather for their feast|pg|| pc|s3|pg|| pc|sK|pc|h5|nt|glen: (promo for HBO true blood new season)|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s6|pg|| nt|woozle: Squeeze is broken up if North wins the second spade and leads a red suit - can't get off dummy without losing a menace|pg|| pc|d2|nt|roswolf: lol|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o18|st||md|4SQT5HQ6DA3CT98543,S973HAK9875D42CAQ,S62HJT43DK86CJ762,SAKJ84H2DQJT975CK|sv|n|nt|cenglund: I agree, given the vulnerabilities|pg|| mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2D!|mb|p|mb|3S|nt|athene: 2@D art gf here|pg|| mb|p|nt|athene: 2@C would force 2@D, to sign off or invite i assume|pg|| mb|4S|nt|pelu: B16 only 2@H from Meck - neg D, RD and 4@D by East - can the swedes bid 2 @D-slams in a row |pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cT|pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|cK|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|s5|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sT|pc|s7|pc|s6|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|pelu: yes Sweden in 6@D - but most Mack to blame: only 2@H in S|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d6|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c18|st||md|4SQT5HQ6DA3CT98543,S973HAK9875D42CAQ,S62HJT43DK86CJ762,SAKJ84H2DQJT975CK|sv|n|nt|woozle: OK, no squeeze if you don't play off your trumps...it's like half-strangling somebody|pg|| nt|3for3: as long as rodwell didnt play @D all ok. He had no reason to against 5@S undoubled. If Meck had doubled, might have been looking for extra 200 point undertricks. here the goal ...|pg|| nt|3for3: was a modest +50|pg|| mb|1S|nt|jcomyn: yes normal contract |pg|| nt|athene: but we just don't know the NS agreements here (or i don't anyway) :)|pg|| mb|p|nt|roswolf: lots of hcp but not much chance of a slam|pg|| nt|athene: i don't understand the last hand|pg|| nt|athene: if west just holds up his @SA isn't he beating 5@S?|pg|| nt|hedyg: he is, needs to hold up twice|pg|| nt|athene: he ducks twice - now if bocchi plays another trump he takes the ace and plays a fourth and the club ruff goes|pg|| nt|VugraphPLA: TD was called , Ginossar think 5s was -1 |pg|| nt|athene: if bocchi ruffs a club himself, then west can simply force the south hand in clubs|pg|| nt|hedyg: Tadeusz, did Gino duck the A@S?|pg|| nt|athene: maybe bocchi claimed 11 or something and west agreed without really thinking it through|pg|| nt|athene: seems unlikely though|pg|| nt|roswolf: indeed|pg|| nt|roswolf: but fatigue does play its part|pg|| nt|hedyg: not that unlikely, only 4-0 @ss could beat him|pg|| nt|hedyg: so he might well have played a @s from hand and claimed|pg|| nt|VugraphPLA: Well i haven't seen , Bocchi has just claimed|pg|| nt|hedyg: ok so we will wait, once declarer claims all play stops and you call the TD if you dont agree|pg|| nt|VugraphPLA: We are waiting for decision |pg|| nt|roswolf: one fir the bulletin i think as do a few others!:)|pg|| nt|3for3: Is Upmark from the Steve Robinson school...All 5 card majors? Otherwise, I prefer 1@D with this shape|pg|| nt|hedyg: LOL|pg|| nt|hedyg: me 2|pg|| mb|2C|an| |nt|jcomyn: might try 3nt here a behind bid|pg|| nt|hedyg: must be from the same family|pg|| mb|p|nt|dburn: may not be so easy to stay low enough - that 1@s might turn out to waste space rather than save it|pg|| nt|roswolf: yes 1@D for me too|pg|| nt|3for3: it often does|pg|| nt|dburn: still, it seems that West can use relays of some kind, rather than have the auction start 1@s-2@h-3@d|pg|| mb|2N|an| |nt|MolvaM: living thru this at the table is bad, but worse will come during scoring when you say minus 1400 |pg|| nt|roswolf: yes 3nt much superior|pg|| nt|hedyg: 2@c gf relay|pg|| nt|roswolf: but no difficulty bidding game|pg|| mb|p|nt|hedyg: 2NT= 8-10 ZZ with a singleton|pg|| nt|3for3: how do you find 6@D opposite Q@S, A@H, a @D honor and A@C?|pg|| nt|roswolf: they wont gey overboard either|pg|| nt|hedyg: ZZ points..|pg|| nt|3for3: or even less with better diamond fit|pg|| nt|hedyg: A=3, K=2 and Q=1|pg|| mb|3C|an| |nt|woozle: McGann has been there before - the big preempt putting pressure on NS in exchange for losing an occasional miracle slam|pg|| nt|glen: 2NT now?|pg|| nt|roswolf: n/s on the previous bd are playing in 5@D|pg|| nt|roswolf: IN THE OTHER ROOM|pg|| mb|p|nt|jcomyn: lots of controls in n hand why not 2nt|pg|| nt|dburn: but an initial 1@d would not have shown diamonds, and if East can show what he has by responding to relays, 1@s may lead to an easier auction all round|pg|| nt|hedyg: 3@c relay|pg|| mb|4C|an| |mb|p|nt|woozle: Pepsi chooses to go quietly with his 17-count, fearing that a double will be pulled too often|pg|| nt|roswolf: nice judgment here|pg|| nt|MolvaM: well it must be makable since NS took 11 tricks here|pg|| nt|roswolf: this is dangerous|pg|| nt|dburn: well, it looks dangerous, but they probably have it under control|pg|| nt|3for3: this is one of the things that makes bridge hard to 'sell' to the general public.|pg|| mb|4S|nt|roswolf: e/w will need a lot of the captain's coffee at the end of this match she wont be very sympathetic|pg|| mb|p|nt|hedyg: "please continue to play, i will give you my decision"|pg|| nt|3for3: Even expert commentators have no clue what is happening|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|woozle: If the match were closer, he probably would have acted|pg|| nt|blum1956: This is a partscore board besides McGann has another opinion))|pg|| nt|ntmon: NS play negative frre bids (NFB) after intervention, so S has extras and N accepts|pg|| nt|jcomyn: agree but prefer playing from n|pg|| nt|roswolf: lol:)|pg|| nt|hedyg: 4@C showing short?|pg|| nt|hedyg: what about @H?|pg|| pc|cT|nt|hedyg: i am sure there is no bid to show both singletons|pg|| nt|dburn: I expect that by now West knows what East has|pg|| nt|3for3: 4@C was probably 5161 with a stiff DUECE of hearts :)|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|cK|pg|| nt|granguru: Duboin should have passed 1@H doubled but I give sementa the greatest part of guilt.for not passing 2@C.|pg|| nt|hedyg: Swedish experts think he showed exact pattern, thus wasted hcps in W hand|pg|| nt|dburn: people don't spend months and years devising these methods just to make life difficult for the commentators|pg|| nt|dburn: they do it because it helps them reach more right contracts than wrong ones|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|sA|nt|jcomyn: h lead from w would n ot be nice|pg|| nt|hedyg: a lot of messages from specs about the last board|pg|| nt|roswolf: i agree with that 1@HX probably not too bad|pg|| nt|granguru: although 2@C is probably -4 |pg|| nt|glen: would make a fun "you be the judge" in the "the bridge world"|pg|| pc|s5|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sT|pc|s7|nt|ntmon: sure, @H better for defence but again .. not easy|pg|| nt|hedyg: it is quite clear: if the A@S is ducked twice he cannot make 5@ss|pg|| pc|s6|pg|| nt|granguru: it will surely appear in some more years|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dA|pc|d2|nt|jcomyn: d and small c and pray|pg|| nt|ntmon: actually case is good after lead from @SA|pg|| nt|jcomyn: going to the wire|pg|| nt|granguru: I will send the hand ..@H|pg|| nt|roswolf: yes but might be censored as not beinf suitable for a family audience|pg|| nt|granguru: :)|pg|| nt|glen: nowadays, likely up on bridgewinners and/or bridgetopics in 1 day|pg|| pc|d6|pg|| nt|jcomyn: cant be thinking anything but a s|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s9|mc|10|nt|jcomyn: home now i think|pg|| nt|roswolf: i bet the score stands though - if the claim was accepted even though in error - thats it unless it was impossible to win the number of tricks claimed|pg|| nt|roswolf: which it clearly wasnt|pg|| nt|athene: i'm not so sure - declarer is meant to give a line of play|pg|| nt|granguru: :$|pg|| nt|3for3: Mind you, I am not against science. It just lessens the ability for the spectators to watch and enjoy|pg|| nt|hedyg: you mean they dont hate us???|pg|| pg|| qx|o19|st||md|1SKT742HADQ64CAKQT,SJHKQ832DAK532C82,SA965H9654DJ7CJ63,SQ83HJT7DT98C9754|sv|e|nt|athene: well, sometimes when you have a very "pure" pre-empt, you don't make it because you are worried it will tell the opponents too much|pg|| nt|pelu: now 6@Hx - prob -800|pg|| nt|athene: but on that hand, the simple fact of taking away another level of bidding was more important, it seems|pg|| nt|cenglund: They lose only 4 IMPs|pg|| nt|cenglund: Board 17 is another likely swing for the swedes|pg|| nt|athene: probably 4@S+1 here; declarer loses @DAK but gets the trumps right on restricted choice|pg|| mb|1S|nt|pelu: running score: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswrunda7.html|pg|| mb|2S|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4C|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dA|nt|athene: restricted choice as well as west having shown at least ten red cards, that is :)|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d8|pc|d6|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dJ|pc|d9|pc|d4|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s8|pc|sT|pc|d5|pg|| mc|11|nt|vugraphpl5: this is last board for today!|pg|| pg|| qx|c19|st||md|1SKT742HADQ64CAKQT,SJHKQ832DAK532C82,SA965H9654DJ7CJ63,SQ83HJT7DT98C9754|sv|e|nt|woozle: nobody was going to mess up that defense|pg|| nt|woozle: I'm not seeing the string of double-digit swings that Harding need to get back into the match|pg|| nt|ntmon: good effort by Monaco on 8|pg|| mb|1C|an| |nt|jcomyn: yes|pg|| nt|jcomyn: 3nt|pg|| nt|hedyg: we have 1@HX at -2 and -3 and 2@c X is -3|pg|| mb|1H|nt|glen: thus it was a close call to pass 2@H, but that got +110|pg|| nt|hedyg: John surely 1@D X already meant that?|pg|| mb|d|an| |nt|jcomyn: solid 2nt for m,e|pg|| nt|hedyg: 1@c= 16+|pg|| nt|dburn: mind you, Lev and Pepsi reached the right contract with only one artificial bid, but the number of ways to skin a cat remains greater than one|pg|| nt|3for3: dbl=points, 5-8 or so. not 'negative'|pg|| mb|p|nt|ntmon: some will preemt with N hand|pg|| nt|athene: interesting - no Ghestem for this NS pair|pg|| nt|athene: but most italian pairs do play some sort of ghestem|pg|| nt|hedyg: with the E hand you bid X and pray pd doesnt bid 3@s|pg|| nt|granguru: well most of the time..could have been a GOSH or a 2-suited hand also|pg|| mb|1S|nt|woozle: Now a notrump partscore, probably with an overtrick or two|pg|| nt|roswolf: now 4@H more normal although may double|pg|| mb|p|nt|mcarroll: Probably best described as a Joey Silver hand|pg|| nt|MolvaM: another "void hand"|pg|| nt|MolvaM: 2@s was probably nonforcing|pg|| nt|hedyg: 2@s obviously nf|pg|| mb|3S|nt|hedyg: sry Murat|pg|| mb|p|nt|MolvaM: :)|pg|| nt|hedyg: Kamras really doesnt want to play in @H|pg|| mb|4S|nt|blum1956: the @h position is of that special sort so nothing may disturb this contract|pg|| nt|athene: 4@S possible with such a good suit|pg|| nt|MolvaM: action again|pg|| nt|3for3: Rodwell's 4@S a coincidence.|pg|| mb|p|nt|roswolf: and chosen|pg|| nt|hedyg: they do play Ghestem on their CC|pg|| nt|athene: sometimes partner has good diamonds and weak hearts and you can make 4@S but not 4@H|pg|| nt|hedyg: just maybe not with @cs|pg|| nt|athene: throwing hearts on diamonds|pg|| mb|p|nt|jcomyn: what now - dicey|pg|| nt|roswolf: hmm this wont go for 1400 but in context a similar result|pg|| nt|granguru: well -16 is not the worst we have seen|pg|| nt|hedyg: any reason his pd could not have 7 good @hs and void in @s?|pg|| mb|p|nt|roswolf: no hedy|pg|| nt|hedyg: he does have the good 7 card suit part|pg|| nt|MolvaM: 4h was a bit exaggerated for my taste|pg|| nt|MolvaM: 3@h would be ok|pg|| nt|roswolf: this seems to be -3|pg|| nt|roswolf: safe auctions|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d7|pc|dT|pc|d6|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c3|nt|ntmon: @S lead in OR, no problem then|pg|| pc|c4|nt|hedyg: this should be -1|pg|| nt|hedyg: cannot get to dummy and cannot ruff his @C losers|pg|| pc|cA|pg|| nt|hedyg: except if he gets some help..|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sJ|nt|roswolf: this will drift down|pg|| nt|hedyg: OR in 4@H|pg|| nt|roswolf: 800 is not a scratch|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s3|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s8|pc|sT|nt|jcomyn: what with a good 6-carder|pg|| nt|MolvaM: this could recover some of the imps lost in the disaster|pg|| pc|h2|pg|| pc|sK|pc|d2|pc|s6|nt|roswolf: dummy is truly LE MORT|pg|| nt|hedyg: now +1|pg|| nt|hedyg: or 2?|pg|| nt|hedyg: A@c, @C ruff and 3 discards and claim|pg|| pc|sQ|pg|| pc|cK|nt|jcomyn: and suddenly things change drastically|pg|| nt|hedyg: Gino must have thought his @ss were good enough to play even opposite shortness|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c6|pc|c5|pg|| nt|granguru: yesterday we saw Fantoni-Nunes giving away a vul game when they had a slam of their own -17|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|granguru: a consolation for normal mortals we are|pg|| pc|h3|nt|hedyg: but that is greedy LOL|pg|| pc|cJ|nt|hedyg: now all @ss|pg|| pc|c7|pg|| nt|hedyg: lost 1 trick, no big deal|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|o20|st||md|2SAKQ9H76DA843CAK3,S642HAQJ93DQTCQ42,SJT83H4DK752CJ985,S75HKT852DJ96CT76|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2S!|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3D!|mb|p|mb|3S|nt|cenglund: I guess this is the push board I predicted in brd 15|pg|| mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|pelu: very fast play here - some tables only at bords 14 or 15|pg|| pc|c7|nt|vugraphpl5: thanks all for comment and watching|pg|| pc|cA|nt|athene: hard to see any swing here - declarer must lose one trick in each side suit|pg|| nt|athene: and can't really lose anything else|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c5|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|s5|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|s8|pc|s7|pg|| nt|athene: thanks all...|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s6|nt|cenglund: Thx|pg|| pc|sT|pc|h2|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|c8|pc|c6|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cQ|pc|c9|pc|cT|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|h5|pc|h6|pg|| nt|pelu: Tx to u Joanna - and a spec tx to the polish IT-staff - outstanding service for us and all the kibs|pg|| mc|10|nt|vugraphpl5: see you tomorrow! :) bye|pg|| nt|cenglund: bye|pg|| pg|| qx|c20|st||md|2SAKQ9H76DA843CAK3,S642HAQJ93DQTCQ42,SJT83H4DK752CJ985,S75HKT852DJ96CT76|sv|b|nt|ntmon: surprises me how often 3NT is made through the field|pg|| nt|jcomyn: isnt that amazing|pg|| nt|hedyg: last board of this match now|pg|| nt|roswolf: tried to drop a singleton trump king|pg|| nt|hedyg: thanks to our outstanding operator in Poznan, Tadeusz ! to my excellent fellow commentators Geoffrey and Bill for donating their time and expertise to guide us through these ...|pg|| nt|hedyg: boards.our appreciation to the EBL and the PBF for bringing this event to BBO, especially Slawek Latala who was intrumental in organizing these broadcasts on behalf of BBO|pg|| nt|hedyg: special thanks to our specs for joining and for your kind and helpful comments,we hope you enjoyed the show|pg|| nt|glen: there must be a leaderboard for this italian unusual results|pg|| nt|roswolf: We are now on the last board of the set. Thanks to our operator, Joanna -Great Job! Our appreciation to all the organisers for ensuring that this fine event is brought to BBO ...|pg|| nt|roswolf: vugraph. Thanks too to my very learned fellow commentators Hedy, Murat and Glen for their company and perceptive comments and to our specs whose contributions keep us on our toes.|pg|| nt|glen: *these|pg|| nt|hedyg: and thank you Geoffrey :)|pg|| nt|roswolf: an entertaining match|pg|| nt|roswolf: We are now on the last board of the set. Thanks to our operator, Tadeusz -Great Job! Our appreciation to all the organisers for ensuring that this fine event is brought to BBO ...|pg|| nt|roswolf: vugraph. Thanks too to my very learned fellow commentator Hedy for her company and perceptive comments and to our specs whose contributions keep us on our toes.|pg|| nt|hedyg: thank you too Geoffrey :)|pg|| nt|ritong: he did not pull the third trump, seems|pg|| nt|hedyg: what did he do with the 2@ds in his hand?|pg|| mb|1H|nt|ritong: ruffed both|pg|| mb|p|nt|hedyg: we will be back at 14 30 CET, in 1 hour and 38 minutes|pg|| nt|roswolf: sorry thx to John as well|pg|| nt|granguru: fortunatelly IMPs table doesnt punish you very hard after you already gave away a lot of IMPs in one hand|pg|| mb|3H|nt|jcomyn: 20 impps in last 2 boards|pg|| nt|roswolf: scheduled restart in 1hr 35 mins approx|pg|| nt|roswolf: scheduled restart in 40 mins time approx|pg|| mb|d|nt|glen: some styles like a 3rd seat 1@H here|pg|| nt|ritong: i suspect our operator anticipated a little:)|pg|| nt|hedyg: ah ok, didnt pull 3rd|pg|| mb|p|nt|ntmon: new leader - i didn't tell that during last few boards|pg|| nt|hedyg: not when KJ are behind :p|pg|| mb|3S|nt|mcarroll: yet another Major partscore hand|pg|| mb|p|mb|4S|nt|hedyg: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswleaderb.html|pg|| nt|athene: west might try an aggressive 3@S now, thinking his @DKJx mesh nicely with his partner's diamond suit|pg|| nt|roswolf: 3nt by east|pg|| nt|hedyg: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswrunda6.html|pg|| mb|p|nt|athene: in fact, of course, they mesh nicely with *north's* diamond suit|pg|| nt|athene: ok, 2@C then 2@S i guess|pg|| nt|roswolf: the pitiful crutch of 4SF |pg|| nt|athene: show an invitational hand but stop at the 2 level|pg|| nt|MolvaM: and not 5 minutes after conceding 1400|pg|| nt|hedyg: we will be back in 37 minutes|pg|| nt|roswolf: i think not|pg|| mb|p|nt|roswolf: n/s will press on to game|pg|| nt|roswolf: an easy contract|pg|| mb|p|nt|hedyg: last board of this match now and of the Swiss teams|pg|| nt|hedyg: thanks to our outstanding operator in Poznan, Tadeusz ! to my excellent fellow commentators Geoffrey, Danny and David for donating their time and expertise to guide us through ...|pg|| nt|hedyg: these boards.our appreciation to the EBL and the PBF for bringing this event to BBO, especially Slawek Latala who was intrumental in organizing these broadcasts on behalf of BBO|pg|| pc|hK|nt|woozle: 4S is cold|pg|| nt|blum1956: 4@s could be made|pg|| nt|woozle: with CA onside, diamond position, spade position and no diamond ruff coming|pg|| nt|ntmon: 2@C may not be wise - who has the @S suit? probably partner, and is weak ...|pg|| nt|jcomyn: big finish for someone|pg|| nt|jcomyn: and it isnt lavazza|pg|| nt|ntmon: .. but this is not the case|pg|| nt|3for3: meck bought a nice hand from rodwell, who could have had nada. K@D and stiff heart very useful|pg|| pc|h6|nt|mcarroll: Yes but has to get @Ds right|pg|| nt|hedyg: can not be more than invite by passed hand|pg|| nt|hedyg: special thanks to our specs for joining and for your kind and helpful comments,we hope you enjoyed the show|pg|| nt|dburn: indeed - this match (though entertaining) doesn't matter - but there are some fierce qualification battles going on in both A and B flights|pg|| nt|hedyg: we will be back tomorrow morning with the Knockouts|pg|| pc|hA|nt|jcomyn: frying pan into the toaster|pg|| nt|athene: nope, he tries 3 anyway|pg|| nt|hedyg: A@C and @c switch might help|pg|| nt|hedyg: but that wont happen|pg|| pc|h4|pg|| nt|roswolf: east will accept!?|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|woozle: McGann tries 4H, down one or two on a spade guess with the club hook failing|pg|| nt|hedyg: but 2@s should be enough|pg|| nt|hedyg: everything is friendly|pg|| nt|granguru: Italoswiss is a kib with very good memory|pg|| nt|hedyg: ty all, bye for now!|pg|| nt|hedyg: help the defense ofc|pg|| pc|s3|nt|woozle: down one...Fiona surely won't try the SK now|pg|| nt|blum1956: -50 against -140 or -170 is a useful 3 imps|pg|| pc|h2|nt|ntmon: X should secure @C lead against 3NT|pg|| nt|hedyg: 1 card out of 3 is on side|pg|| pc|h7|pg|| nt|jcomyn: craziest contract of the week|pg|| nt|roswolf: north needs to avoid being endplayed here|pg|| nt|hedyg: i dont think he can get endplayed|pg|| nt|athene: endplay is unlikely because after ruffing a club and drawing trumps, west has no trumps left so a fourth club is fine|pg|| nt|3for3: i believe the higher you are, you get bonus in KO's, re selection of opponents. Hedy posted the rule earlier|pg|| nt|hedyg: 10:00 AM CET|pg|| nt|hedyg: that is for teams 1-8, the rest are seeding as per EBL or WBF seeding points|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg|| nt|hedyg: even A@H and @H is fine|pg|| pc|s9|nt|woozle: I fear at this point that 3 isn't enough|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sJ|nt|ntmon: prediction? abstain..|pg|| nt|roswolf: indeed as it happens but still care needs to be taken|pg|| pc|s7|pg|| nt|jcomyn: hope no children are watching|pg|| nt|granguru: some time ago I said whenever one player of each team tries to play the same suit, one of them is out of his mind. I was referring myself to the play of the cards thou|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d6|pc|d8|pc|dT|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d2|pc|d9|pc|dA|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s6|nt|hedyg: ty all, bye for now :)|pg|| pc|sT|nt|woozle: South could try for down two by ducking the first club|pg|| nt|athene: maybe @S6-@S4 is a subtle signal asking for a diamond|pg|| nt|athene: but bocchi can see it doesn't really matter i think|pg|| pc|h5|pg|| mc|10|pg||