vg|A EC 2011 Open Teams Swiss _,6_7,I,1,10,Mahafey,0,Bessis,0|
rs|3CN+2,4CN+1,6CW=,6CW+1,4SE-1,4SE-1,7SN=,6DN=,4HN+1,4HS+1,2HW-1,2CNx-1,4HS-1,4HS-1,2SE-1,2SE=,3HE-2,2HE+1,3NE=,3NE+1|
pn|Meckstroth,Smirnov,Rodwell,Piekarek,Bessis_T,Lev,Bessis_M,Pszczola|pg||
qx|o1|st||md|3ST3HAT752DKQJ5C54,SK7542H943DT42CK6,SA96HD9876CAQJT97,SQJ8HKQJ86DA3C832|sv|o|nt|Walddk2: I think we can live without an    f    in Mahaffey|pg||
nt|Walddk2: If not, I apoligise profusely|pg||
nt|vugraphpl5: Welcome everybody again|pg||
mb|2C|mb|2H|mb|p|nt|tihana: pen pass by S|pg||
mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|nt|yke:  why doesn't rodwell play with meckstroth?|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: I guess Mahaffey decides. He is the team sponsor|pg||
pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|s6|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c6|pc|cQ|pc|c2|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|d2|pg||
pc|c5|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c3|pg||
nt|yke:  ok this makes more sense :)|pg||
nt|vugraphpl5: very sorry for mistake|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|c1|st||md|3ST3HAT752DKQJ5C54,SK7542H943DT42CK6,SA96HD9876CAQJT97,SQJ8HKQJ86DA3C832|sv|o|nt|blum1956: hi all|pg||
nt|hedyg: good afternoon and welcome back to the 5th European Open Championships, Poznan, Poland. A Swiss teams ,Round 5/7, 10 boards / round|pg||
mb|1C|mb|1H|nt|hedyg: good morning and welcome back to the 5th European Open Championships, Poznan, Poland. A Swiss teams ,Round 4/7, 10 boards / round|pg||
nt|hedyg: welcome Geoffrey Wolfarth |pg||
nt|glen: hi Hedy, Geoffrey|pg||
nt|hedyg: and Glen :)|pg||
nt|roswolf: hello:)|pg||
mb|p|mb|2H|nt|hedyg: our operator is Tadeusz|pg||
nt|roswolf: hi all|pg||
nt|hedyg: welcome Geoffrey Wolfarth |pg||
mb|3C|mb|p|nt|hedyg: good afternoon and welcome back to the 5th European Open Championships, Poznan, Poland. A Swiss teams ,Round 6/7, 10 boards / round|pg||
nt|hedyg: our operator is Tadeusz|pg||
nt|hedyg: welcome Geoffrey Wolfarth |pg||
nt|roswolf: hi all|pg||
nt|hedyg: http://www.bbotv.com/vugraph/ for BBO TV since BBO mobile is not working|pg||
mb|3N|nt|roswolf: :)gm hedy|pg||
nt|hedyg: our operator is Tadeusz|pg||
nt|granguru:  hi all|pg||
nt|granguru:  hi hedy|pg||
nt|glen: what should S lead?|pg||
mb|p|nt|ntmon: hi to everyone|pg||
nt|MolvaM: hello all|pg||
nt|hedyg: hi John|pg||
nt|glen: hi Murat :)|pg||
nt|MolvaM: hi Hedy, John|pg||
nt|MolvaM: hi Glen|pg||
nt|hedyg: Murat :)|pg||
nt|roswolf: hi everyone|pg||
nt|glen: S attacks the 6-5 suit|pg||
nt|glen: only 6 stoppers since suit splits|pg||
nt|granguru:  I feel Jxxx is the worst lead to make in a 3NT contract|pg||
nt|hedyg: http://www.bbotv.com/vugraph/ for BBO TV since BBO mobile is not working|pg||
mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|nt|blum1956: 5 nj 6 tricks probably|pg||
nt|roswolf: normal contract|pg||
nt|hedyg: i feel 4th from longest and strongest works best except from an ace|pg||
mb|p|nt|roswolf: a very sharp double|pg||
nt|hedyg: system summary for EW: http://usbf.org/index2.php?option=com_teamforms&task=display&pop=1&page=0&fid=763&pid=193|pg||
mb|4C|mb|p|nt|granguru:  partner must have around 8 points so my first choice is @d10 then a small @C|pg||
mb|p|nt|ntmon: Open teams, 3rd round of Swiss just started|pg||
nt|athene: hi good morning everyone|pg||
nt|roswolf: always lead a major against this bidding :) mind you i would have led a spade:(|pg||
mb|p|nt|hedyg: and i strongly dislike leading from a doubleton if pd didnt bid the suit|pg||
nt|glen: small @C would produce -400|pg||
pc|c2|nt|hedyg: BBO mobile is still not working so pls use: http://www.bbotv.com/vugraph/|pg||
nt|hedyg: hi Bill|pg||
nt|roswolf: hi bill|pg||
nt|roswolf: north thinks safety first|pg||
pc|c4|nt|blum1956: 5 to 6|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cA|pg||
nt|roswolf: so we would have all let this through:)|pg||
nt|hedyg: results and running scores: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswleaderb.html|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c3|pc|c5|nt|jcomyn: no problem with this but brave bid|pg||
pc|c6|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c8|pc|h2|pc|h9|pg||
pc|cT|pc|h6|pc|h5|pc|d2|pg||
nt|hedyg: running scores: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswleaderb.html|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|d4|pg||
nt|roswolf: 3ntx may well have made|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|dT|nt|MolvaM: so the target at the end of today is to stay at the top 27 in group A,  and top 5 in group B|pg||
pc|d7|nt|granguru:  nice deception|pg||
pc|dA|pg||
nt|hedyg: i will get the CCs|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|o2|st||md|4SJ82HJT3DAQT942C4,S3HAK86DJCAKT9653,ST76HQ7542D765CJ8,SAKQ954H9DK83CQ72|sv|n|nt|tihana: no problem, it was huge typo :)|pg||
nt|yke:  well the first letter was correct :)|pg||
nt|davpro: Ah- Meckstroth took a seat...|pg||
mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|nt|yke:  easy 6 clubs|pg||
nt|davpro: y- evern I would make|pg||
nt|yke:  well also to bid, both have lots of extras|pg||
nt|Walddk2: What a player|pg||
nt|vugraphpl5: running scored (round 6) http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswrunda6.html|pg||
nt|yke:  once smirnov gets support, he can just ask for aces|pg||
nt|tihana: trying for seven|pg||
mb|3H|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4C|mb|p|mb|4D|mb|d|mb|4H|mb|p|nt|davpro: They had a lot easier bidding in other room. Would 3@c have been non forcing here?|pg||
mb|4S|mb|p|mb|4N|mb|p|nt|yke:  this is just a bidding exercise, they will bid 6 anyways|pg||
mb|6C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|tihana: i wonder why W didnt pass 4d doubled to hear first control from E?|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d3|nt|yke:  4NT clearly not asking for aces|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|dJ|pg||
nt|davpro: Perhaps 4@h implied shortness (in @D)?|pg||
nt|yke:  maybe 4@S did|pg||
nt|yke:  4NT 0 or 3 aces, just guessing|pg||
mc|12|pg||
qx|c2|st||md|4SJ82HJT3DAQT942C4,S3HAK86DJCAKT9653,ST76HQ7542D765CJ8,SAKQ954H9DK83CQ72|sv|n|nt|hedyg: 3@H X in OR|pg||
nt|granguru:  declarer saved 2 potential tricks|pg||
nt|hedyg: E thinking, has not passed yet|pg||
nt|hedyg: results and running scores: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswrunda6.html|pg||
mb|1S|nt|hedyg: EW CC: http://www.ecatsbridge.org/documents/files/ConventionCards/2010Ostend-european/OpenTeams/israel/ronpa-gino.pdf|pg||
nt|hedyg: and EW landed in 5@d|pg||
mb|p|nt|ntmon: @S partscore to EW|pg||
nt|MolvaM: 27+5 = 32 teams will qualify for the knockouts. members of the eliminated teams can enjoy the open pairs event starting tomorrow|pg||
mb|2C|nt|hedyg: NS CC: http://www.ecatsbridge.org/documents/files/ConventionCards/2010Ostend-european/OpenTeams/italy/bocchi-madala.pdf|pg||
mb|p|mb|2S|nt|woozle: 6NT has chances with a spade lead - four spades, three hearts, three diamonds, one club and a squeeze on south|pg||
nt|jcomyn: but ns might get busy in h|pg||
nt|hedyg: EW CC: http://www.ecatsbridge.org/documents/files/ConventionCards/2010Ostend-european/OpenTeams/italy/duboin-sementa.pdf|pg||
nt|MolvaM: 2s was intermediate?|pg||
mb|p|nt|ntmon: but higher suit probably wins|pg||
mb|3C|nt|woozle: Fiona Brown is very cautious with her barren 11|pg||
nt|roswolf: aggressive reopening by north|pg||
mb|p|nt|MolvaM: 10-13 I am told ok|pg||
nt|roswolf: some may have doubled as east-t/o of course|pg||
nt|MolvaM: or 11-13 I am also told  :)|pg||
nt|roswolf: well 6@C here on ice|pg||
nt|hedyg: i have no CC for NS, soemthing between SEF and 2/1|pg||
nt|roswolf: 6nt from east cold as well|pg||
mb|4C|nt|jcomyn: not yet|pg||
mb|p|mb|4N|nt|ntmon: .. now :)|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Wikner/Kamras: http://www.svenskbridge.se/e107_files/tavling/deklarationer/AWJK1.pdf|pg||
mb|p|nt|roswolf: this may not play too well|pg||
mb|5C|mb|p|mb|6C|nt|woozle: four rounds of spades now will put South through the wringer|pg||
nt|athene: bocchi knows his side has a fit - if opps have a 9-card fit you are guaranteed an 8-card fit at least - but that doesn't mean you will find it|pg||
nt|hedyg: some might bid 4@S with the W hand once he knows about 4 card support since he has no valid defense vs 4@H except the trumps|pg||
nt|roswolf: this can be defeated|pg||
nt|roswolf: the swedes on the first bd bid to 5@D for a game swing|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|blum1956: A player of the team which is in best 8 will hardly lead a spade against 6NT|pg||
nt|hedyg: ty Roland :)|pg||
nt|MolvaM: the bidding could well go 1@s-2@s-4@S at other tables|pg||
nt|roswolf: true|pg||
mb|p|pc|h2|nt|jcomyn: well who does win now|pg||
nt|athene: west's defensive plan is very easy|pg||
nt|athene: just play spades and spades and spades|pg||
nt|roswolf: indeed|pg||
nt|athene: and get your three trump tricks|pg||
nt|hedyg: Ilan Herbst went 2 off in OR|pg||
nt|athene: maybe south would be better-off to double 3@S rather than bid 4@H, if he feels he has to do something|pg||
nt|roswolf: i think only -1 is likely here|pg||
nt|roswolf: competenty done|pg||
nt|roswolf: now 13 tricks|pg||
pc|h9|pc|h3|pc|hA|pg||
pc|h6|nt|athene: 4@H should be a five-card suit in my opinion|pg||
pc|h4|pc|c7|nt|hedyg: he could not do that after his pd doubled 3@S, Bill|pg||
pc|hT|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|ntmon: it's probable that EW will come to 4@S on many tables either on its own or pushed, but not doubled |pg||
nt|athene: no i mean in the other room|pg||
nt|hedyg: but that would be for minors, denying 4@Hs|pg||
nt|hedyg: it is rare that pd, when he doubles 1@s, does not have 4 cards in @H|pg||
nt|roswolf: not so rare these days for the top players|pg||
nt|hedyg: we all assume pd has 4 OM when he doubles a M opening|pg||
nt|roswolf: that is true enough|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c3|pc|c8|pg||
nt|woozle: probably not, but leading from a nothing suit isn't completely safe either - can easily pick up (say) partner's queen|pg||
nt|hedyg: nobody is very worried about the overtrick|pg||
mc|13|nt|jcomyn: levazza mean business by the looks of things|pg||
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qx|o3|st||md|1SJ6HQT64DJ5432C93,ST843HA9853DK7CT5,SQ75HJ2DAQ9CAJ842,SAK92HK7DT86CKQ76|sv|e|nt|davpro: They lost 1 imp in the bidding nevertheless|pg||
nt|tihana: answer to kibtzers: this is open european championship, so all are welcome.|pg||
nt|yke:  a kib confirms 4@S was asking for aces|pg||
nt|Walddk2: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswrunda6.html|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|nt|davpro: Kibs are very helpfull. Unlike us they know stuff :)|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|d|nt|tihana: majors|pg||
nt|tihana: E will probably invite game|pg||
nt|yke:  maybe 2@D 2@H 2@S as invitational|pg||
mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|tihana: 4@S game try|pg||
mb|p|nt|yke:  that's one way|pg||
nt|tihana: go strong|pg||
pc|c9|pc|cT|nt|yke:  N should souble, sorry, with the club lead I was only kidding|pg||
nt|yke:  double|pg||
nt|tihana: E clubs seem better after double of 2cl, since cl lead is more desirable then diamond|pg||
nt|tihana: E hand|pg||
nt|yke:  without a double, meckstroth would probably lead a diamond|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c6|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|c3|pc|c5|pg||
nt|yke:  10 tricks now, two rounds of spades and ruff out the hearts|pg||
nt|tihana: or a spade?, trying to prevent ruffs of his heart holding? Although holding a @S J might prevent him from doing so.|pg||
nt|yke:  oh wait, there is a catch, no quick entry to the west hand for the second ruff|pg||
nt|yke:  I think he cannot make it|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|h3|pc|h2|pg||
nt|yke:  if you ruff out the hearts you don;t have an entry to the west hand|pg||
nt|tihana: my gib says he can :)|pg||
nt|tihana: kib suggest throw in with a @SQ|pg||
pc|h7|pc|h6|pc|hA|pc|hJ|pg||
pc|h5|nt|yke:  maybe north get squeezed on the 4th round of hearts|pg||
nt|yke:  kind of ottlik backwash squeeze|pg||
pc|d9|pc|s2|pc|hT|pg||
nt|yke:  very difficult hand|pg||
nt|davpro: yes|pg||
nt|davpro: therefor I'm speachless|pg||
nt|tihana: i think piekarek will make it.|pg||
nt|yke:  Rodwell could have ruffed with the Q of spades|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Welcome to Bill Frisby|pg||
nt|athene: hi good afternoon everyone|pg||
nt|davpro: If anyone will make it it WILL be Piekarek. That's for syre|pg||
nt|davpro: :)|pg||
nt|tihana: he know north distribution by now|pg||
nt|yke:  I think N gets squeezed|pg||
nt|tihana: and diamond postion|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|s3|pc|s5|pg||
pc|sK|pc|sJ|nt|yke:  AK of spades, ruff a club and the 4th heart|pg||
pc|s4|nt|davpro: 2 rounds of @s and crossruff will do it|pg||
pc|s7|pg||
nt|yke:  small club now|pg||
pc|cK|pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|c2|pg||
nt|yke:  no i think that was not correct|pg||
pc|c7|pc|d3|pc|s8|nt|davpro: nope|pg||
pc|c4|pg||
nt|yke:  now down one|pg||
pc|h8|pc|dQ|pc|s9|pc|hQ|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d4|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|d8|pc|d5|pc|sT|pg||
pc|c8|pc|dT|pc|dJ|pc|h9|pg||
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qx|c3|st||md|1SJ6HQT64DJ5432C93,ST843HA9853DK7CT5,SQ75HJ2DAQ9CAJ842,SAK92HK7DT86CKQ76|sv|e|nt|roswolf: agreed since he was in 3|pg||
nt|MolvaM: so that 4@s wont make|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|woozle: Brown has an exciting hand but best defense can beat 4S|pg||
nt|roswolf: an imp is an imp is an imp so said a great player once|pg||
nt|hedyg: the official site is: http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg||
mb|1C|nt|mcarroll: This will certainly see Major suit action|pg||
mb|1N|nt|ntmon: 4@S now by NS|pg||
nt|jcomyn: will they get to 6|pg||
nt|roswolf: 4@H is normal here|pg||
nt|roswolf: another transfer|pg||
mb|p|nt|roswolf: anothr transfer|pg||
mb|2C|nt|roswolf: might inhibit the nat @H overcall by east |pg||
mb|d|nt|woozle: South's 2D looks competitively inadequate, not that it matters much here|pg||
nt|jcomyn: tempting|pg||
mb|2S|mb|p|mb|4S|nt|blum1956: Probably it is a @h raise|pg||
nt|roswolf: may be showing 3@H support - the transfer shows 4+ in hearts|pg||
mb|p|nt|roswolf: i would lead a club|pg||
nt|roswolf: the @SQ is looking for a brillancy prize|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|woozle: No doubt, and a toothpick is a weapon but it's not really adequate for a duel|pg||
pc|c9|nt|jcomyn: but resisted|pg||
nt|roswolf: i am told 1@c-1@d-1@h=3@h unball,1nt=2/3@hball|pg||
nt|roswolf: another vul game bash|pg||
nt|hedyg: 1st we bid it, then we try to make it|pg||
pc|c5|nt|ntmon: S would need @D8 instead of @D7|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cK|pg||
nt|roswolf: yup|pg||
nt|roswolf: to try and set up hearts looks natural not that it will work|pg||
nt|hedyg: not enough transportation|pg||
nt|hedyg: and also the 3rd @s in the N hand|pg||
nt|roswolf: true but if 3-3 then enough|pg||
nt|hedyg: if there is a way Pepsi will find it|pg||
nt|roswolf: dd it is doomed i am told - looks it to me in practice as well|pg||
pc|h7|pc|h4|nt|athene: this is a funny auction then - how did Bocchi know his partner had five hearts>|pg||
pc|hA|nt|athene: ?|pg||
pc|h2|pg||
nt|mcarroll: making now|pg||
nt|woozle: Brown had two options - lead the club early before the opponents know you have eight trumps, or run trumps and try to put on pressure|pg||
pc|cT|pc|cA|nt|ntmon: or @D lead|pg||
pc|c6|nt|athene: maybe he didn't|pg||
pc|c3|pg||
nt|blum1956: Maybe it were better to play the @cQ before trumps|pg||
nt|roswolf: pepsi is east's nickname |pg||
pc|hJ|nt|mcarroll: True enough|pg||
nt|Walddk4: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswrunda6.html|pg||
pc|hK|nt|woozle: Count signals should sort out the club suit for the defense when North has the ace|pg||
pc|h6|nt|roswolf: non-poles cant pronounce all the consonants in his name|pg||
pc|h3|pg||
nt|roswolf: 3nt shows 5 hearts i am told :)|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|sJ|pc|d7|nt|athene: yes i know 1@D shows hearts but only 4+ hearts|pg||
pc|c4|pg||
nt|roswolf: cutting his losses -1|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|jcomyn: surprised in a way they didnt try|pg||
pc|h5|pc|d9|pc|s2|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d2|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|blum1956: It is difficult for defenders to make a mistake when they have some 7 free discards|pg||
nt|roswolf: concede|pg||
pc|c7|pc|d3|pc|s3|pg||
pc|h8|pc|dQ|pc|s9|pc|hT|pg||
pc|sA|nt|woozle: the problem is that with no entry to dummy the pressure isn't great|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s4|pc|s5|pg||
pc|d8|pc|d4|nt|hedyg: Thomas would have ruffed the @c with Q@S if he had it|pg||
pc|h9|pc|s7|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|o4|st||md|2SAT74HT5DAQTC9872,S863HKQ876D8CQJT6,SKQJ2HAJDKJ9642CA,S95H9432D753CK543|sv|b|nt|yke:  can kibs confirm a small club instead of the the K of clubs would make the contract?|pg||
nt|yke:  acording to GIB|pg||
nt|tihana: y|pg||
mb|p|nt|yke:  see, I don;t need GIB :)|pg||
mb|1C!|mb|p|mb|2D!|mb|p|mb|2N!|mb|p|nt|athene: the winning line was to ruff the @C7 in dummy without cashing the king first, then ruff a heart; north gets squeezed|pg||
mb|3D!|nt|athene: if he throws the @DQ and comes down to the bare ace you can duck a diamond to set up the king and you still have the @CK as a stopper|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: if he keeps @DAQ he gets endplayed later|pg||
mb|3S|mb|p|mb|3N!|nt|athene: when he ruffs a winning heart with his boss trump he has to give dummy the @DK|pg||
mb|p|nt|yke:  well that was vertainly a great board|pg||
mb|4C|mb|p|mb|4D|mb|p|nt|yke:  I think I got over 100 private messages the last board :)|pg||
nt|jr7: 7@S, not 7@D|pg||
nt|athene: 2@D balanced 8-10; 2nt stayman|pg||
mb|4N|mb|p|mb|5H|mb|p|nt|athene: 3@D shows spades and 3@S sets the suit; now they are on their way, but the @DQ is a bit of a key card and that might be hard to find|pg||
nt|Walddk2: 3NT is  the Serious 3NT showing spade support and a good hand for slam|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Rodwell devised the Serious 3NT so he should know|pg||
mb|6D|mb|p|mb|6S|nt|athene: south is probably known not to have any kings after he has AA [8-10 for 2@D remember]|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: so 6@D should ask for @DQ|pg||
nt|yke:  meckwell precision in action, it's only a question how they bid it, not if|pg||
nt|yke:  well|pg||
mb|7S|nt|athene: and if 5nt asks for kings anyway then 6@D has to ask for third round control somewhere|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|tihana: nice|pg||
nt|Walddk2: 6@D asking for 3rd round control|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Well done|pg||
nt|davpro: Indeed|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Meck showed all his 10 points|pg||
nt|tihana: claim|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|sK|pg||
nt|yke:  2@D was bal 2NT a relay, 3@D 4 spades, 3NT serious|pg||
nt|athene: just needs spades 3-2 doesn't it|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s9|pc|s7|pc|s6|pg||
mc|13|nt|athene: that's not good enough odds for a grand if they might not be in six in the other room|pg||
nt|yke:  you can even make it with spades 4-1|pg||
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qx|c4|st||md|2SAT74HT5DAQTC9872,S863HKQ876D8CQJT6,SKQJ2HAJDKJ9642CA,S95H9432D753CK543|sv|b|nt|hedyg: i am afraid when the CC was made last year they were not yet playing transfers over the 1@c opening, thus no explanations|pg||
nt|roswolf: what 3@H would mean is a mystery:)|pg||
nt|athene: ok so with a 3nt bid and only four hearts, south would have done something else|pg||
nt|athene: garozzo responds 2@C on strong balanced hands with a 4-card major|pg||
nt|athene: the idea is to conceal the major if you don't have a 4-4 fit|pg||
nt|athene: so if you respond showing a major then bid 3nt you promise 5|pg||
nt|roswolf: another kibber suggests they may use 3@S rebid by south as puppet to 3nt|pg||
nt|athene: looks as though NS are doing the same sort of thing|pg||
nt|MolvaM: nice hand.|pg||
nt|hedyg: wd for -1?|pg||
mb|p|mb|1D|nt|MolvaM: we would be happy if a few voids would be there but ok :)|pg||
nt|glen: on bd 22, Tokay, S in other room, started trumps with ace for +140 and 5 imps|pg||
mb|p|nt|jcomyn: 3C|pg||
nt|ntmon: 2@S alerted but looks like sign-off|pg||
nt|roswolf: on 22 in 3@S DECLARER DID PLAY ACE AND ANOR TRUMP|pg||
nt|MolvaM: welldone tokay :)|pg||
mb|1S|nt|roswolf: great minds eh glen!?:)|pg||
nt|glen: hey, canadians own "eh"|pg||
nt|roswolf: well 3nt seems routine by west|pg||
mb|d|nt|jcomyn: boy what happens now|pg||
nt|ntmon: when opps bid 2 suits and we look for 3NT, we bid the suit we have stopped |pg||
nt|hedyg: 2@d= 4+|pg||
nt|roswolf: a difficult salm to reach 6@D seems clearly superior|pg||
nt|athene: NS can bid lots of hearts but that will only encourage east to bid a slam|pg||
nt|hedyg: ok here is the CC for NS now: http://www.svenskbridge.se/e107_files/tavling/deklarationer/AWJKeng.pdf|pg||
nt|roswolf: this might be awkward for n/s|pg||
nt|hedyg: which is the awkward part?|pg||
mb|r|nt|ntmon: but i agree .. NS on the way to problems|pg||
nt|roswolf: the heart lead against nt is marked lucky east has 10xxx|pg||
nt|hedyg: getting to grand?|pg||
mb|2C|nt|woozle: At the other table, North switched to a diamond at trick two, but chose the lowest...South, duly misled, led one back|pg||
nt|athene: 6@S will make if the defence foolishly try to cash @HAK, but not if they switch to a club to take out the entry to the diamonds, of course|pg||
nt|glen: thanks Hedy, typical swedish cc, very little blank space left|pg||
mb|d|nt|MolvaM: heart lead and low spade switch?|pg||
nt|granguru:  and west @HJx|pg||
mb|p|nt|jcomyn: like well into the soup|pg||
nt|jcomyn: I'm still bidding 3c on the s hand before you have your blood spilled|pg||
nt|MolvaM: oh then @sA disappears|pg||
nt|roswolf: slam is on in many denominations and level is difficult to judge too|pg||
mb|4C|nt|ntmon: the only problem with 3@C is that should not be enough |pg||
nt|ntmon: at least they're on the same wavelenght|pg||
nt|roswolf: advance sac taken|pg||
nt|hedyg: XX doesnt even start to show this hand|pg||
mb|p|nt|hedyg: still 9 tricks|pg||
nt|hedyg: ok, now 4@d|pg||
nt|roswolf: i agree hedy|pg||
mb|6D|nt|MolvaM: even if misguess|pg||
nt|hedyg: right|pg||
nt|hedyg: anything is fine as long as they avoid 5@ds|pg||
mb|p|nt|roswolf: yup i think duboin was taking the time to light the proverbial cigarette|pg||
mb|p|nt|jcomyn: much of a muchness|pg||
nt|glen: i thought they played for lavazza and coffee|pg||
mb|p|nt|roswolf: the grand is missed i fear|pg||
nt|hedyg: Thomas thinks XX shows 3 @ss only|pg||
nt|hedyg: with 4 card fit and singleton @c he had other bids available|pg||
nt|roswolf: meckwell will probably have a similar challenge in the other room|pg||
pc|h4|nt|blum1956: clear pass for North on 2@s from my point of view, but Pszczola is a world champion which I am not|pg||
nt|MolvaM: he could get 6 proverbial IMPs fine for that  :)|pg||
nt|hedyg: strange not to correct to @s|pg||
mc|12|pg||
qx|o5|st||md|3SAK6H96432DAJC953,ST95H5DT8765CKJT8,S8742HAKQTD94CAQ6,SQJ3HJ87DKQ32C742|sv|n|nt|athene: actually you can ruff a club in the north hand anyway and survive a 4-1 trump split, maybe?|pg||
nt|davpro: y|pg||
nt|yke:  lots of interesting boards again|pg||
nt|tihana: easy 4 hearts now|pg||
nt|vugraphpl5: we must wait for Meckstroth|pg||
nt|athene: did he go out for a smoke whilst Rodwell played the grand?|pg||
nt|athene: poor Rodwell, he knows if he plays a hand brilliantly his partner will never see it, he will be outside getting some "fresh air" :)|pg||
nt|davpro: But on the other hand if he plays it very bad....P will find out :)|pg||
nt|vugraphpl5: ok he's back|pg||
nt|tihana: well thats not very probable|pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3H|nt|athene: 2@S obviously some sort of super-accept; maybe their only way to show a good hand with four hearts|pg||
mb|p|nt|yke:  at last an easy board so we can rest a little bit :)|pg||
nt|Walddk2: and 3@D is a re-transfer|pg||
mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: 1NT is 14-16|pg||
nt|tihana: they play 13-15 1N?|pg||
nt|tihana: ok tx|pg||
nt|athene: something (club or diamond) goes on the fourth spade|pg||
nt|athene: so a fairly boring 650 here|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|yke:  I hope the spectators forgive me I don's answer all of them since there are a lot and the boards are very interesting,|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s2|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|hA|pc|h7|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h8|pc|h3|pc|d6|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|hJ|nt|yke:  So I try to answer most of them but I can't answer them all|pg||
pc|h4|pc|d5|pg||
pc|s8|nt|tihana: probably 2@S is some sort of help suit, otherwise Piekarek would lead @DK|pg||
pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|s9|pg||
pc|s6|pc|sT|pc|s4|pc|sJ|pg||
pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d7|pc|d4|pg||
nt|yke:  on board 3, 4@S went down as well, but N ducked the first club|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c8|pc|cA|pc|c2|pg||
pc|s7|nt|tihana: also club lead?|pg||
pc|c4|pc|dJ|nt|yke:  I think then it is always one off|pg||
pc|d8|pg||
pc|d9|pc|d2|pc|h6|pc|dT|pg||
pc|c5|pc|cT|pc|cQ|pc|c7|pg||
pc|c6|pc|d3|pc|c9|pc|cJ|pg||
pc|cK|pc|hT|pc|dQ|pc|h9|pg||
nt|yke:  a defensive error of Rodwell? He missed the trump squeeze?|pg||
pg||
qx|c5|st||md|3SAK6H96432DAJC953,ST95H5DT8765CKJT8,S8742HAKQTD94CAQ6,SQJ3HJ87DKQ32C742|sv|n|nt|woozle: Maybe 4S here for EW, but there's work involved|pg||
nt|ntmon: the wrong result for Monacco atributed to their EW pair in OR|pg||
nt|athene: better lead a diamond against 6@H here|pg||
nt|granguru:  1Nt or 2@D NS|pg||
mb|1C|nt|roswolf: yes for once not a lot of scope for action|pg||
mb|p|nt|mcarroll: Lots of work|pg||
nt|mcarroll: lots of work needed|pg||
nt|ntmon: leader changes after each board |pg||
nt|athene: shouldn't be too hard though|pg||
nt|roswolf: another distributional fit|pg||
nt|roswolf: another pretty hand but only enough for game|pg||
mb|1H|mb|p|nt|woozle: only two certain losers, but I'm not sure how many winners|pg||
nt|roswolf: well the @D lead signposted|pg||
nt|athene: 3@D is GF raise with singleton|pg||
nt|roswolf: 3@D shows 1 singleton(unspecified) + gf i am told|pg||
nt|athene: some specs might be wondering why east didn't just double|pg||
mb|2H|nt|athene: there are two possible explanations|pg||
mb|p|nt|jcomyn: finding h here will be tricky|pg||
nt|jcomyn: and game on|pg||
nt|athene: firstly they might play x as t/o of hearts (unlikely)|pg||
nt|glen: the modern style: bid five card majors, count points later|pg||
nt|hedyg: 1NT= semi-forcing|pg||
nt|hedyg: 2NT general gametrial..|pg||
mb|4H|nt|athene: secondly he just wants to emphasize he has real playing strength in diamonds so there might be a sac|pg||
nt|glen: the semi-forcing NT allows for opener, once having counted points, to pass to avoid trouble|pg||
nt|hedyg: the term semi-forcing will always be a puzzle to me|pg||
nt|roswolf: this seems easy +90|pg||
nt|hedyg: thus it is NOT forcing?|pg||
nt|hedyg: or just 4@H|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: whereas a lead-directing double could be as little as @DKQ10x or so|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|ntmon: much depends on methods now|pg||
nt|hedyg: notice no XX from Gino to show Kx in @D|pg||
nt|hedyg: i mean: it is either forcing or it isnt?|pg||
nt|granguru:  correct|pg||
nt|MolvaM: so 1NT conventionally asks for point count? :)|pg||
nt|hedyg: ok ty|pg||
nt|roswolf: well your supposed to bid again if you have a decent hand very like drury without the guaranteed trump support|pg||
nt|hedyg: , see above |pg||
nt|glen: semi-forcing is a terrible term, but was meant to distinguish between 1NT not-forcing limited to about 10 pts, and the modern style where it can have game invite values|pg||
pc|sT|nt|blum1956: not enough entries to make the @d s work and too bad @h distribution to crossruff effectively|pg||
nt|woozle: On the last board, Harding in the other room tried 3NT with the matching 4333s - down one also, but had chances for 10 in|pg||
nt|roswolf: brakes need to be applied now|pg||
nt|roswolf: simple auction|pg||
pc|s2|nt|hedyg: it is a terrible term indeed|pg||
nt|roswolf: but rarely does in my experience|pg||
nt|granguru:  for me semif means "you may pass if you have a sub min hand  or a min with a bal distr"|pg||
pc|s3|pc|sA|pg||
nt|roswolf: OTT|pg||
nt|athene: i guess one other advantage for 4@D over double is it takes some room away from opps|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|hA|nt|mcarroll: which red suit to try is the question|pg||
pc|h8|pg||
nt|ntmon: very lucky for NS|pg||
pc|hK|nt|woozle: A bit sad here that the third diamond will be ruffed with the short defensive trumps|pg||
pc|h7|pc|h2|pc|s5|pg||
nt|athene: ok, it looks here as though madala has shown a diamond control|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|roswolf: i think n/s were reckless here although who was to blame we may never know|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h4|pc|d5|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sQ|nt|jcomyn: sure is i would find KJ10 on my left|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s9|pg||
pc|s6|pc|d6|pc|s7|pc|sJ|pg||
pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d7|pc|d4|pg||
nt|jcomyn: interesting b idding in open room to 4h|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d8|pc|d9|pc|d2|pg||
mc|12|pg||
qx|c6|st||md|4SAT85HJ9DAQJ432C4,SK76HQ872DK986C62,S32HT653DTCAQJT83,SQJ94HAK4D75CK975|sv|e|nt|ntmon: anyway 2IMP for better game to Lavazza|pg||
nt|jcomyn: probably and then 3d forcing with at least 5-5|pg||
nt|hedyg: a Zia cuebid of 5@D|pg||
nt|athene: is bocchi teaching madala some interesting italian phrases at high speed now? if so, chances are, it was south's fault|pg||
nt|roswolf: another routine game hand|pg||
nt|glen: may see some italian science here|pg||
nt|granguru:  but it has some second meaning here. idont have a great hand and 3cards to raise you|pg||
mb|1C|nt|roswolf: didnt work - it is good to see that the top players are also mere mortals:)|pg||
mb|1D|nt|MolvaM: maybe the 4-1 trumps could bring some action|pg||
nt|roswolf: this could get feisty|pg||
mb|d|an| |mb|p|nt|roswolf: or obsfuscation more like|pg||
mb|1H|an| |nt|hedyg: we have been seeing a lot of that|pg||
mb|1S|mb|1N|nt|glen: 2@C is the science|pg||
mb|2C|mb|d|nt|athene: 2@C is a reverse inverted minor - it shows a raise to the two-level|pg||
nt|roswolf: 2@c rather than 1@d was an interesting choice|pg||
nt|hedyg: bd 4 Fantunes in 7@s|pg||
mb|p|nt|glen: natural or 16/17+ many hand types|pg||
mb|p|nt|woozle: Pepsi bids only 2NT...he apparently has lower standards for vulnerable 2H bids than I do|pg||
nt|woozle: Seamon-Molson raises to say "yes, I did overcall vulnerable"|pg||
nt|mcarroll: and the @S Ten is a vital asset|pg||
nt|woozle: I suppose she would never have raised without it|pg||
mb|p|nt|mcarroll: :)|pg||
nt|jcomyn: now thats aggressive but i suppose the 5-card suit is useful|pg||
nt|jcomyn: H lead?|pg||
nt|roswolf: nice contract|pg||
pc|hA|nt|ntmon: actually E hand is rather strong in 15-17 range|pg||
nt|ntmon: roles home now|pg||
nt|jcomyn: rolls even|pg||
nt|ntmon: rolls* :)|pg||
nt|glen: 2@S was natural, usually 2@Ss, less than 8|pg||
nt|roswolf: for once i understand their bidding:)|pg||
pc|h9|nt|glen: 3@H was the big hand, natural|pg||
nt|hedyg: 2@c either nat or any strong hand|pg||
nt|hedyg: according to the CC|pg||
pc|h2|nt|hedyg: then 3@H= strong hand with @s+@H|pg||
pc|h3|pg||
pc|s4|nt|roswolf: i didnt expect this contract|pg||
nt|roswolf: should go -1|pg||
nt|hedyg: would you bid 1NT as W over 1@D?|pg||
pc|s5|pc|sK|pc|s3|pg||
nt|roswolf: no i wouldnt|pg||
nt|hedyg: hmm maybe that is a xfer too|pg||
pc|c2|nt|jcomyn: h lkead d switch and another h but who would find that|pg||
nt|roswolf: ah a natural raise you mean bill:)|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c4|pg||
pc|dT|nt|athene: it's good to see people raising clubs|pg||
nt|athene: doesn't happen often :)|pg||
nt|roswolf: yes of course they play transfers over 1@C -doh:(|pg||
pc|d5|nt|jcomyn: and bocchi-Madala found that defence in open room|pg||
pc|dA|nt|woozle: Fiona decided that spades aren't promising on lead, so tries a surprise attack in clubs. Pepsi is surprised, but not so surprised that he will forget to take his now ten top tricks|pg||
pc|d6|pg||
nt|ntmon: well deserved|pg||
nt|jcomyn: led d first and then h|pg||
nt|jcomyn: very good but i wont lead a s whatever else|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|c3|pc|d7|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s9|nt|hedyg: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswleaderb.html|pg||
pc|sA|nt|MolvaM: kamras thinking?|pg||
nt|hedyg: hardly|pg||
nt|VugraphPLA: i did mistake , he should not have 7 of spade now |pg||
pc|s6|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d8|pc|h5|pc|c7|pg||
pc|hK|pc|hJ|pc|h7|pc|h6|pg||
nt|ntmon: i have some sympathy - @S looks as a safe lead after invitational sequence|pg||
pc|h4|pc|d2|pc|hQ|pc|hT|pg||
pc|d9|nt|hedyg: Tadeusz! you are teasing us lol|pg||
mc|7|nt|hedyg: why?|pg||
nt|roswolf: :)|pg||
pg||
qx|o7|st||md|1ST6HAQT65DQ863CA5,S943H973DJ2CJ9863,SAK8HKJ82D954CQT4,SQJ752H4DAKT7CK72|sv|b|nt|davpro: np- I operated once...it did not go well...|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Appendicitis?|pg||
mb|1H|mb|p|nt|davpro: lol|pg||
mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dJ|pc|d4|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d6|pc|d2|pc|d5|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d8|pc|h3|pc|d9|pg||
pc|s3|nt|tihana: nice lead!|pg||
nt|athene: well done to shift to the spade there|pg||
nt|athene: if he didn't do that east could be trump squeezed|pg||
nt|yke:  no squeeze now, E is behind the menaces|pg||
nt|athene: oh - maybe it doesn't work sorry|pg||
pc|s8|nt|athene: well, no chance now anyway, whatever|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s6|pg||
mc|9|nt|yke:  only chance to let it run|pg||
pg||
qx|c7|st||md|1ST6HAQT65DQ863CA5,S943H973DJ2CJ9863,SAK8HKJ82D954CQT4,SQJ752H4DAKT7CK72|sv|b|nt|woozle: Can make eleven tricks in spades EW by squeezing south in the red suits|pg||
nt|blum1956: If North opens a strong 1NT, what will West bid&|pg||
nt|blum1956: ?|pg||
nt|woozle: North much too strong for a strong notrump...although at favourable I might open 2NT|pg||
nt|woozle: A strong notrump is the second best preempt in bridge, after 2NT|pg||
nt|woozle: Is Pepsi deep in the tank, or is this a coffee break?|pg||
nt|blum1956: This time 1@c is the worst option for North - East may even preempt in @s s wich solves the problem for EW|pg||
nt|jcomyn: but nobody bid h - or s I suppose, so|pg||
nt|ntmon: Lavazza builds a sound, deserved lead|pg||
nt|MolvaM: better take the shortcut :)|pg||
nt|hedyg: ok np|pg||
nt|hedyg: just wanted to see if we were awake?|pg||
mb|1H|nt|Walddk4: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswrunda5.html  running now|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: 4@D would be a splinter we assume|pg||
nt|athene: but he might not want to do that with a singleton ace|pg||
nt|roswolf: south will brush the intervention aside|pg||
nt|roswolf: this might be carnage|pg||
mb|3D|nt|athene: 3@D will be a spade raise anyway; presumably 3@C would be hearts|pg||
nt|hedyg: unusual vs unusual|pg||
mb|d|nt|hedyg: 3@d showing invite + in @s|pg||
nt|roswolf: south should pass|pg||
nt|MolvaM: sementa's pass says what?  I have diamonds? |pg||
nt|roswolf: they will play in 4@H|pg||
nt|hedyg: running scores: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswrunda6.html|pg||
mb|4H|nt|jcomyn: and can add toit here|pg||
nt|hedyg: 3@c would be invite + in @h|pg||
nt|roswolf: he has sufficient defence|pg||
nt|MolvaM: or just that he has nothing to say|pg||
mb|p|nt|woozle: Fiona, bids the routine (at this vul) 2S|pg||
nt|roswolf: to the limit for west|pg||
mb|p|nt|mcarroll: well predicted!|pg||
nt|roswolf: west must make his own arrangements|pg||
mb|p|nt|woozle: McGann takes the quick path to game|pg||
nt|roswolf: good judgment|pg||
nt|athene: does bocchi have to find the diamond lead for 500 here?|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|hedyg: maybe this is a hand t show invite + in @H and when d bids @H bid @s to show both majors|pg||
nt|roswolf: the noose tightens|pg||
nt|hedyg: surely he has no 4 cards in any other suit than @d|pg||
nt|hedyg: some superbergen|pg||
pc|d4|nt|athene: hmmm ok this looks as though bocchi made a forcing pass and now a slam try in spades which is surely a bit optimistic with his hand|pg||
nt|roswolf: south tempted to bid on!?|pg||
nt|MolvaM: duboins hand looked so good after rho opened 1@d. now it looks not so attractive|pg||
nt|hedyg: oy vey!|pg||
nt|roswolf: high noon shoot out|pg||
nt|glen: sementa rips up cards and leaves table|pg||
nt|MolvaM: a void usually means action|pg||
nt|roswolf: blood will flow but whose is not clear|pg||
nt|hedyg: why XX?|pg||
nt|glen: actual it is xxxx since previous xx|pg||
nt|hedyg: surely if Sementa had a better suit he would have bid it?|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d3|pg||
nt|roswolf: good judgment again|pg||
nt|hedyg: trying to put N under pressure?|pg||
pc|dK|nt|roswolf: will n/s run out of red cards|pg||
pc|d6|nt|jcomyn: but very difficult|pg||
nt|ntmon: EW in OR might know that they're behind, so try to push|pg||
pc|d2|nt|hedyg: passssssssssssssss|pg||
nt|hedyg: surely no need to correct to 2@H!|pg||
nt|roswolf: might give preference|pg||
pc|d5|pg||
nt|hedyg: cannot be a forcing pass opposite what might be just invite|pg||
nt|glen: i still think ripping up cards will result in lowest possible minus score|pg||
nt|MolvaM: well 8 card fit is better than nothing|pg||
nt|hedyg: oh no !|pg||
nt|hedyg: might try 3NT after X of 3@D?|pg||
pc|dT|pc|dQ|nt|MolvaM: ahh it goes on|pg||
nt|roswolf: frying pan into fire|pg||
pc|h3|nt|athene: well it can be if you agree it is|pg||
pc|d9|pg||
nt|hedyg: what?|pg||
nt|MolvaM: 5 card fit now|pg||
nt|hedyg: are we watching the right board?|pg||
nt|glen: now there are fires, and there is this|pg||
nt|roswolf: this would be funny a5-0 fit|pg||
nt|hedyg: would be?|pg||
nt|roswolf: you shouldnt laugh at a funeral|pg||
nt|hedyg: ok folks! see? it can happen to anybody!|pg||
nt|MolvaM: if duboin had not rdbl'd it would have benn just ok|pg||
nt|hedyg: next time i play in my cuebid i must try to remember this moment|pg||
nt|roswolf: the italian will be x -rated in the post mortem|pg||
nt|MolvaM: looks like hand from the menagerie where both sides can play 2@dX|pg||
pc|s4|nt|roswolf: low trump to start|pg||
nt|granguru:  diagnostic?|pg||
nt|glen: the best thing for NS to do after the hand is leave table, then come back when decibel level is below 120|pg||
nt|hedyg: call an ambulance|pg||
nt|granguru:  --4?|pg||
nt|roswolf: gib says -7 dd|pg||
nt|granguru:  ducking is best here|pg||
nt|hedyg: desperately looking for an entry to his hand|pg||
nt|roswolf: well if slam is on for n/s i still tale the penalty 1700|pg||
pc|sA|nt|Walddk5: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswrunda3.html|pg||
nt|roswolf: take|pg||
pc|s2|nt|hedyg: it is only when Madala doubles that he is better than invite|pg||
pc|s6|pg||
pc|h2|nt|hedyg: if the 3@D bid had been gf, then it would have been a forcing pass|pg||
nt|athene: it's reasonable enough to play pass forcing if you showed at least game invite values and opps go to 5-level; 99% of the time they are advance saccing|pg||
pc|h4|nt|hedyg: too bad it isnt on?|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h7|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h9|nt|roswolf: the vampires gather for their feast|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|s7|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|glen: (promo for HBO true blood new season)|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cA|nt|woozle: Squeeze is broken up if North wins the second spade and leads a red suit - can't get off dummy without losing a menace|pg||
pc|c3|pg||
nt|roswolf: lol|pg||
pc|d8|pc|s9|pc|hK|pc|d7|pg||
pc|h8|pc|s5|pc|hQ|pc|c6|pg||
mc|9|nt|roswolf: THE TRANSFER DOESNT WORK|pg||
nt|hedyg: he bid 4@H too fast imo|pg||
nt|roswolf: may have had a squeeze if he hadnt played the club q|pg||
nt|hedyg: Pepsi double should have put him into the right contract|pg||
pg||
qx|o8|st||md|2SATHA92D872CAKT76,SQ4HKJT3DAQ94CJ82,SJ87H7654DKT63C43,SK96532HQ8DJ5CQ95|sv|o|nt|yke:  what happened to board  6|pg||
mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: Did we not play board 6?|pg||
pc|cA|nt|athene: smirnov did well to find the diamond lead with no lead-directing double to help him, as in the other room|pg||
nt|tihana: we did. that was the one that was repeating endlesly|pg||
nt|athene: [previous board]|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|c5|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c8|pc|c4|pc|c9|pg||
nt|Walddk2: EW were in 2@H I think|pg||
pc|c6|pc|cJ|pc|s7|pc|cQ|pg||
nt|davpro: We played board 6, but operator had some problems|pg||
nt|Walddk2: How many tricks, anyone remember?|pg||
nt|athene: looked like one down|pg||
nt|tihana: one off|pg||
nt|davpro: -1 (I think...it was on repeat for a while)|pg||
pc|s8|pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|s4|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Entered now as minus 1|pg||
nt|yke:  diamond now|pg||
nt|vugraphpl5: sorry for 6 board, everything is ok now|pg||
nt|Walddk2: No problem, you must be exhausted after a full week on he trot|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Just one more week to go :)|pg||
nt|athene: now if declarer has the @DK and north has the @HQ meckstroth has to lead a heart - but there isn't really a guess for declarer after the 1nt overcall|pg||
pc|d8|nt|athene: so meckstroth might as well play the diamond|pg||
pc|d4|pc|dK|pc|d5|pg||
nt|yke:  should be easy|pg||
nt|athene: playing his partner for the @DK|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h8|pc|hA|pc|h3|pg||
mc|7|pg||
qx|c8|st||md|2SATHA92D872CAKT76,SQ4HKJT3DAQ94CJ82,SJ87H7654DKT63C43,SK96532HQ8DJ5CQ95|sv|o|nt|woozle: OK, no squeeze if you don't play off your trumps...it's like half-strangling somebody|pg||
mb|1D|nt|jcomyn: yes normal contract |pg||
nt|athene: but we just don't know the NS agreements here (or i don't anyway) :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|roswolf: lots of hcp but not much chance of a slam|pg||
nt|athene: i don't understand the last hand|pg||
nt|athene: if west just holds up his @SA isn't he beating 5@S?|pg||
nt|hedyg: he is, needs to hold up twice|pg||
nt|athene: he ducks twice - now if bocchi plays another trump he takes the ace and plays a fourth and the club ruff goes|pg||
nt|VugraphPLA: TD was called , Ginossar think 5s was -1 |pg||
nt|athene: if bocchi ruffs a club himself, then west can simply force the south hand in clubs|pg||
nt|hedyg: Tadeusz, did Gino duck the A@S?|pg||
nt|athene: maybe bocchi claimed 11 or something and west agreed without really thinking it through|pg||
nt|athene: seems unlikely though|pg||
nt|roswolf: indeed|pg||
nt|roswolf: but fatigue does play its part|pg||
nt|hedyg: not that unlikely, only 4-0 @ss could beat him|pg||
nt|hedyg: so he might well have played a @s from hand and claimed|pg||
nt|VugraphPLA: Well i haven't seen , Bocchi has just claimed|pg||
nt|hedyg: ok so we will wait, once declarer claims all play stops and you call the TD if you dont agree|pg||
nt|VugraphPLA: We are waiting for decision |pg||
nt|roswolf: one fir the bulletin i think as do a few others!:)|pg||
mb|1S|nt|jcomyn: might try 3nt here a behind bid|pg||
mb|d|mb|p|nt|MolvaM: living thru this at the table is bad, but worse will come during scoring when you say minus 1400 |pg||
nt|roswolf: yes 3nt much superior|pg||
mb|2H|mb|2S|nt|woozle: McGann has been there before - the big preempt putting pressure on NS in exchange for losing an occasional miracle slam|pg||
nt|glen: 2NT now?|pg||
nt|roswolf: n/s on the previous bd are playing in 5@D|pg||
nt|roswolf: IN THE OTHER ROOM|pg||
mb|p|nt|jcomyn: lots of controls in n hand why not 2nt|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|woozle: Pepsi chooses to go quietly with his 17-count, fearing that a double will be pulled too often|pg||
nt|roswolf: nice judgment here|pg||
nt|MolvaM: well it must be makable since NS took 11 tricks here|pg||
pc|cA|nt|roswolf: e/w will need a lot of the captain's coffee at the end of this match she wont be very sympathetic|pg||
pc|c2|nt|hedyg: "please continue to play, i will give you my decision"|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c9|pg||
nt|woozle: If the match were closer, he probably would have acted|pg||
nt|blum1956: This is a partscore board besides McGann has another opinion))|pg||
nt|ntmon: NS play negative frre bids (NFB) after intervention, so S has extras and N accepts|pg||
nt|jcomyn: agree but prefer playing from n|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c8|pc|c3|pc|c5|pg||
nt|granguru:  Duboin should have passed 1@H doubled but I give sementa the greatest part of guilt.for not passing 2@C.|pg||
pc|cT|pc|cJ|pc|s7|nt|jcomyn: h lead from w would n ot be nice|pg||
nt|hedyg: a lot of messages from specs about the last board|pg||
nt|roswolf: i agree with that 1@HX probably not too bad|pg||
nt|granguru:  although 2@C is probably -4 |pg||
nt|glen: would make a fun "you be the judge" in the "the bridge world"|pg||
pc|cQ|pg||
pc|s8|pc|s2|pc|sA|nt|ntmon: sure, @H better for defence but again .. not easy|pg||
nt|hedyg: it is quite clear: if the A@S is ducked twice he cannot make 5@ss|pg||
pc|s4|pg||
nt|granguru:  it will surely appear in some more years|pg||
pc|h2|pc|hJ|pc|h6|nt|jcomyn: d and small c and pray|pg||
nt|ntmon: actually case is good after lead from @SA|pg||
nt|jcomyn: going to the wire|pg||
nt|granguru:  I will send the hand ..@H|pg||
nt|roswolf: yes but might be censored as not beinf suitable for a family audience|pg||
nt|granguru:  :)|pg||
nt|glen: nowadays, likely up on bridgewinners and/or bridgetopics in 1 day|pg||
pc|h8|pg||
nt|jcomyn: cant be thinking anything but a s|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|sJ|pc|s3|nt|jcomyn: home now i think|pg||
nt|roswolf: i bet the score stands though - if the claim was accepted even though in error - thats it unless it was impossible to win the number of tricks claimed|pg||
nt|roswolf: which it clearly wasnt|pg||
nt|athene: i'm not so sure - declarer is meant to give a line of play|pg||
nt|granguru:  :$|pg||
pc|sT|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h4|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|o9|st||md|3SKT63H72D98CKJT76,S742HT85DKQJT5C84,SA95HK93DA6432C95,SQJ8HAQJ64D7CAQ32|sv|e|mb|1D|mb|1H|nt|tihana: not a single imp for Bessis so far|pg||
nt|vugraphpl5: thanks for understanding|pg||
nt|yke:  it was made in the other room, they played a heart instead of a diamond|pg||
mb|d|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|nt|vugraphpl5: running scored http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswrunda6.html|pg||
nt|yke:  this will probably rest in 3@H making, altough it is not that easy|pg||
mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|nt|athene: 2@S forces 2nt to show a short-suit game try?|pg||
mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|yke:  2@S trial for 4@H, asking for help in spades|pg||
pc|d9|nt|athene: west has no interest in game facing any shortage and no interest in the 3-level facing diamond shortage :)|pg||
pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d7|pg||
nt|tihana: this could go down|pg||
pc|s5|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|s2|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s4|pc|sA|pc|s8|pg||
nt|athene: north is in the happy position of knowing declarer is in deep trouble|pg||
pc|s9|pc|sJ|pc|s6|pc|s7|pg||
nt|athene: could lead @C9 or a spade there|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h2|pc|h5|nt|yke:  can he duck now?|pg||
nt|yke:  for down 2|pg||
nt|athene: he has to duck this to prevent the @H10 being used to reach the diamonds|pg||
pc|h3|pg||
nt|yke:  now J of hearts|pg||
nt|athene: yes, he has to duck the @HJ too - perhaps not so easy|pg||
nt|yke:  not that easy to duck J of hearts as well|pg||
nt|athene: the defence's life would have been much simpler if they had attacked clubs earlier|pg||
nt|athene: well if north had led a club earlier|pg||
nt|athene: but this might give rodwell a chance to make the bulletin :)|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|c5|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c8|pc|c9|nt|yke:  down 2 now|pg||
pc|cA|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c6|pc|h8|pc|h9|pg||
pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|hT|pg||
mc|7|pg||
qx|c9|st||md|3SKT63H72D98CKJT76,S742HT85DKQJT5C84,SA95HK93DA6432C95,SQJ8HAQJ64D7CAQ32|sv|e|nt|woozle: nobody was going to mess up that defense|pg||
nt|woozle: I'm not seeing the string of double-digit swings that Harding need to get back into the match|pg||
nt|ntmon: good effort by Monaco on  8|pg||
mb|1D|nt|jcomyn: yes|pg||
nt|jcomyn: 3nt|pg||
nt|hedyg: we have 1@HX at -2 and -3 and 2@c X is -3|pg||
mb|1H|nt|glen: thus it was a close call to pass 2@H, but that got +110|pg||
nt|hedyg: John surely 1@D X already meant that?|pg||
mb|d|an| |nt|jcomyn: solid 2nt for m,e|pg||
mb|p|nt|ntmon: some will preemt with N hand|pg||
nt|athene: interesting - no Ghestem for this NS pair|pg||
nt|athene: but most italian pairs do play some sort of ghestem|pg||
nt|hedyg: with the E hand you bid X and pray pd doesnt bid 3@s|pg||
nt|granguru:  well most of the time..could have been  a GOSH or a 2-suited hand also|pg||
mb|1S|nt|woozle: Now a notrump partscore, probably with an overtrick or two|pg||
nt|roswolf: now 4@H more normal although may double|pg||
mb|d|nt|mcarroll: Probably best described as a Joey Silver hand|pg||
nt|MolvaM: another "void hand"|pg||
nt|MolvaM: 2@s was probably nonforcing|pg||
nt|hedyg: 2@s obviously nf|pg||
mb|p|nt|hedyg: sry Murat|pg||
mb|2H|nt|MolvaM: :)|pg||
nt|hedyg: Kamras really doesnt want to play in @H|pg||
mb|p|nt|blum1956: the @h position is of that special sort so nothing may disturb this contract|pg||
nt|athene: 4@S possible with such a good suit|pg||
nt|MolvaM: action again|pg||
mb|p|nt|roswolf: and chosen|pg||
nt|hedyg: they do play Ghestem on their CC|pg||
nt|athene: sometimes partner has good diamonds and weak hearts and you can make 4@S but not 4@H|pg||
nt|hedyg: just maybe not with @cs|pg||
nt|athene: throwing hearts on diamonds|pg||
mb|p|nt|jcomyn: what now - dicey|pg||
nt|roswolf: hmm this wont go for 1400 but in context a similar result|pg||
nt|granguru:  well -16 is not the worst we have seen|pg||
nt|hedyg: any reason his pd could not have 7 good @hs and void in @s?|pg||
pc|d9|nt|roswolf: no hedy|pg||
nt|hedyg: he does have the good 7 card suit part|pg||
nt|MolvaM: 4h was a bit exaggerated for my taste|pg||
nt|MolvaM: 3@h would be ok|pg||
nt|roswolf: this seems to be -3|pg||
nt|roswolf: safe auctions|pg||
pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d7|pg||
pc|s5|pc|sQ|pc|sK|nt|ntmon: @S lead in OR, no  problem then|pg||
pc|s2|pg||
nt|hedyg: this should be -1|pg||
nt|hedyg: cannot get to dummy and cannot ruff his @C losers|pg||
pc|h7|nt|hedyg: except if he gets some help..|pg||
pc|h8|pc|h9|nt|roswolf: this will drift down|pg||
nt|hedyg: OR in 4@H|pg||
nt|roswolf: 800 is not a scratch|pg||
pc|hJ|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cT|pc|c4|pc|c5|pg||
nt|jcomyn: what with a good 6-carder|pg||
nt|MolvaM: this could recover some of the imps lost in the disaster|pg||
pc|h2|pc|hT|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg||
nt|roswolf: dummy is truly LE MORT|pg||
nt|hedyg: now +1|pg||
nt|hedyg: or 2?|pg||
nt|hedyg: A@c, @C ruff and 3 discards and claim|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c6|nt|jcomyn: and suddenly things change drastically|pg||
nt|hedyg: Gino must have thought his @ss were good enough to play even opposite shortness|pg||
pc|c8|pc|c9|pg||
pc|c3|nt|granguru:  yesterday we saw  Fantoni-Nunes giving away a vul game when they had a slam of their own -17|pg||
pc|c7|nt|granguru:  a consolation for normal mortals we are|pg||
pc|h5|nt|hedyg: but that is greedy LOL|pg||
pc|s9|pg||
nt|hedyg: now all @ss|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d2|pc|s8|pc|d8|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d3|pc|sJ|pc|s3|pg||
pc|dT|pc|d4|pc|h4|pc|cJ|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|o10|st||md|4ST82HQT8753D7CK98,SQ7HJ92DAT9652CA5,SA9653H6DQJ4CQJ64,SKJ4HAK4DK83CT732|sv|b|nt|yke:  solid defence by meckwell|pg||
nt|tihana: and the last one|pg||
mb|1C|nt|vugraphpl5: This is last board|pg||
nt|vugraphpl5: thanks for your comment and watching|pg||
mb|1H|mb|2D|nt|vugraphpl5: next round will start at 18.00|pg||
mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|athene: he might try a spade lead here, given rodwell didn't bid 2@H|pg||
pc|h7|pc|hJ|pc|h6|nt|athene: ok, he plays for @HHx opposite i suppose|pg||
pc|h4|pg||
nt|yke:  well I don't like the heart lead, it looks like the opponents were ready for a heart lead|pg||
nt|athene: on a spade lead rodwell could shift to a club to beat the contract|pg||
nt|tihana: what happens on club lead?|pg||
nt|yke:  so maybe a spade or a club|pg||
pc|d2|nt|yke:  club lead down one|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|d7|pg||
pc|d8|pc|hT|pc|d5|pc|dJ|pg||
nt|tihana: difficult|pg||
nt|tihana: actualy impossible|pg||
nt|davpro: Yes, but declarer can duck first @c. Still makes.|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c2|pc|c8|nt|tihana: i dont think so, even then|pg||
nt|yke:  31-0, well played by meckwell|pg||
pc|c5|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cA|nt|tihana: well done|pg||
nt|yke:  this will hurt them a lot|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c3|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d3|mc|9|nt|vugraphpl5: see you soon!|pg||
pg||
qx|c10|st||md|4ST82HQT8753D7CK98,SQ7HJ92DAT9652CA5,SA9653H6DQJ4CQJ64,SKJ4HAK4DK83CT732|sv|b|nt|ntmon: surprises me how often 3NT is made through the field|pg||
nt|jcomyn: isnt that amazing|pg||
nt|hedyg: last board of this match now|pg||
nt|roswolf: tried to drop a singleton trump king|pg||
nt|hedyg: thanks to our outstanding operator in Poznan, Tadeusz ! to my excellent fellow commentators Geoffrey and Bill for donating their time and expertise to guide us through these ...|pg||
nt|hedyg: boards.our appreciation to the EBL and the PBF for bringing this event to BBO, especially Slawek Latala  who was intrumental in organizing these broadcasts on behalf of BBO|pg||
nt|hedyg: special thanks to our specs for joining and for your kind and helpful comments,we hope you enjoyed the show|pg||
nt|glen: there must be a leaderboard for this italian unusual results|pg||
nt|roswolf: We are now on the last board of the set. Thanks to our operator, Joanna -Great Job! Our appreciation to all the organisers for ensuring that this fine event is brought to BBO ...|pg||
nt|roswolf: vugraph. Thanks too to my very learned fellow commentators Hedy, Murat and Glen for their company and perceptive comments and to our specs whose contributions keep us on our toes.|pg||
nt|glen: *these|pg||
nt|hedyg: and thank you Geoffrey :)|pg||
nt|roswolf: an entertaining match|pg||
nt|roswolf: We are now on the last board of the set. Thanks to our operator, Tadeusz -Great Job! Our appreciation to all the organisers for ensuring that this fine event is brought to BBO ...|pg||
nt|roswolf: vugraph. Thanks too to my very learned fellow commentator Hedy for her company and perceptive comments and to our specs whose contributions keep us on our toes.|pg||
nt|hedyg: thank you too Geoffrey :)|pg||
mb|1C|mb|1H|nt|hedyg: we will be back at 14 30 CET, in 1 hour and 38 minutes|pg||
nt|roswolf: sorry thx to John as well|pg||
nt|granguru:  fortunatelly IMPs table doesnt punish you very hard after you already gave away a lot of IMPs in one hand|pg||
mb|2D|nt|jcomyn: 20 impps in last 2 boards|pg||
nt|roswolf: scheduled restart in 1hr 35 mins approx|pg||
nt|roswolf: scheduled restart in 40 mins time approx|pg||
mb|p|nt|glen: some styles like a 3rd seat 1@H here|pg||
mb|3N|nt|ntmon: new leader - i didn't tell that during last few boards|pg||
nt|hedyg: not when KJ are behind :p|pg||
mb|p|nt|mcarroll: yet another Major partscore hand|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|hedyg: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswleaderb.html|pg||
nt|athene: west might try an aggressive 3@S now, thinking his @DKJx mesh nicely with his partner's diamond suit|pg||
nt|roswolf: 3nt by east|pg||
nt|hedyg: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswrunda6.html|pg||
pc|sT|nt|athene: in fact, of course, they mesh nicely with *north's* diamond suit|pg||
nt|athene: ok, 2@C then 2@S i guess|pg||
nt|roswolf: the pitiful crutch of 4SF |pg||
nt|athene: show an invitational hand but stop at the 2 level|pg||
nt|MolvaM: and not 5 minutes after conceding 1400|pg||
nt|hedyg: we will be back in 37 minutes|pg||
nt|roswolf: i think not|pg||
pc|s7|nt|roswolf: n/s will press on to game|pg||
nt|roswolf: an easy contract|pg||
pc|s3|pc|sJ|pg||
nt|woozle: 4S is cold|pg||
nt|blum1956: 4@s could be made|pg||
nt|woozle: with CA onside, diamond position, spade position and no diamond ruff coming|pg||
nt|ntmon: 2@C may not be wise - who has the @S suit? probably partner, and is weak ...|pg||
nt|jcomyn: big finish for someone|pg||
nt|jcomyn: and it isnt lavazza|pg||
nt|ntmon: .. but this is not the case|pg||
pc|d3|nt|mcarroll: Yes but has to get @Ds right|pg||
nt|hedyg: can not be more than invite by passed hand|pg||
pc|d7|nt|jcomyn: frying pan into the toaster|pg||
nt|athene: nope, he tries 3 anyway|pg||
nt|hedyg: A@C and @c switch might help|pg||
nt|hedyg: but that wont happen|pg||
pc|dT|nt|roswolf: east will accept!?|pg||
pc|dJ|pg||
nt|woozle: McGann tries 4H, down one or two on a spade guess with the club hook failing|pg||
nt|hedyg: but 2@s should be enough|pg||
nt|hedyg: everything is friendly|pg||
nt|granguru:  Italoswiss is a kib with very good memory|pg||
nt|hedyg: ty all, bye for now!|pg||
nt|hedyg: help the defense ofc|pg||
pc|s5|nt|woozle: down one...Fiona surely won't try the SK now|pg||
nt|blum1956: -50 against -140 or -170 is a useful 3 imps|pg||
pc|s4|nt|ntmon: X should secure @C lead against 3NT|pg||
nt|hedyg: 1 card out of 3 is on side|pg||
pc|s8|nt|jcomyn: craziest contract of the week|pg||
nt|roswolf: north needs to avoid being endplayed here|pg||
nt|hedyg: i dont think he can get endplayed|pg||
nt|athene: endplay is unlikely because after ruffing a club and drawing trumps, west has no trumps left so a fourth club is fine|pg||
pc|sQ|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|dK|nt|hedyg: even A@H and @H is fine|pg||
pc|s2|pg||
nt|woozle: I fear at this point that 3 isn't enough|pg||
pc|d8|pc|h3|nt|ntmon: prediction? abstain..|pg||
nt|roswolf: indeed as it happens but still care needs to be taken|pg||
pc|dA|nt|jcomyn: hope no children are watching|pg||
nt|granguru:  some time ago I said whenever one player of each team tries to play the same suit, one of them is out of his mind. I was referring myself to the play of the cards thou|pg||
pc|dQ|pg||
pc|d5|pc|h6|pc|c2|pc|h7|pg||
pc|d6|pc|c4|pc|c3|pc|c8|pg||
pc|d9|nt|hedyg: ty all, bye for now :)|pg||
pc|s6|nt|woozle: South could try for down two by ducking the first club|pg||
nt|athene: maybe @S6-@S4 is a subtle signal asking for a diamond|pg||
nt|athene: but bocchi can see it doesn't really matter i think|pg||
pc|c7|pc|h5|pg||
pc|h2|nt|roswolf: bye for now|pg||
pc|s9|nt|blum1956: Yes they need average 10.6 a bord to even the match|pg||
nt|athene: diamonds can't be going away|pg||
pc|hA|nt|roswolf: bye for now|pg||
nt|granguru:  bye all|pg||
pc|h8|pg||
pc|cT|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c6|pg||
pc|h9|pc|cJ|pc|hK|nt|ntmon: last board of the set, big thx to our falwless! operator in Poznan, to all kibs who will continue to see the show, next round in a short time |pg||
pc|hT|pg||
mc|10|nt|woozle: Fiona needn't have bothered with the club finesse - couldn't work (Pepsi had passed and had shown ten points already)|pg||
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