vg|D EC 2011 Open Teams Swiss _,6_7,I,1,10,Angelini,0,Mirage,0|
rs|2HEx-2,2HEx-2,6CW=,6CW+1,2HW=,4HW-2,7SN=,4SS+3,4HN+1,4HN+1,3DS-3,3DS-1,4HS-1,4HS=,2SE-1,3CS-2,2HE-2,3HW-2,3NW=,3NE+2|
pn|NUNES,KHAZANOV,FANTONI,PROKHOROV,Zapadinski,Brogeland,Gomerov,Angelini|pg||
qx|o1|st||md|3ST3HAT752DKQJ5C54,SK7542H943DT42CK6,SA96HD9876CAQJT97,SQJ8HKQJ86DA3C832|sv|o|mb|2C|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|nt|rcerreto: hi all|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|marlowepi: welcome back everyone to stately poznan|pg||
pc|dK|nt|vugraphpld: hi all|pg||
nt|marlowepi: hi joanna, congratulations on the splenmdid job you have been doing|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d8|pc|d3|pg||
nt|rcerreto: yes, thanks|pg||
pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c2|pg||
nt|rcerreto: Fantunes didn't mind to balance double with the void|pg||
nt|marlowepi: this is a nice result for NS with 3N beatable on spade lead, which would be found on certain NS auctions|pg||
pc|c9|pc|c3|pc|c5|pc|c6|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c8|pc|s3|pc|h3|pg||
pc|h4|nt|marlowepi: a spade wont get by N|pg||
pc|d9|pc|hK|pc|h2|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|sT|pc|s2|pc|sA|pg||
pc|s6|pc|sJ|pc|h5|pc|s4|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d4|pc|d6|pc|dA|pg||
nt|rcerreto: -2|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h7|pc|h9|pc|c7|pg||
pc|s8|mc|6|pg||
qx|c1|st||md|3ST3HAT752DKQJ5C54,SK7542H943DT42CK6,SA96HD9876CAQJT97,SQJ8HKQJ86DA3C832|sv|o|nt|bagman: Hi all|pg||
nt|jfaria:  hi all|pg||
nt|runnerup: hi all|pg||
nt|kirp:  ok looks we r ready|pg||
mb|2C|nt|kirp:  hello |pg||
mb|2H|nt|Gerben42:  welcome back in Poznan|pg||
nt|davpro: Morning all|pg||
nt|Walddk4: yes   h   missing|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Please operator|pg||
nt|roswolf: a difficult grand to bid|pg||
nt|MolvaM: it seems bochi plays in both rooms :)|pg||
nt|danilo1: Ola Joao, Hi all|pg||
nt|kirp:  interesting hand to start off with, NS in @Hs, EW in @Ds|pg||
nt|runnerup: here norht has 5-6 -majors and opened-now ew shoud find 5 @d that is the goal let see|pg||
mb|p|nt|roswolf: hi all|pg||
nt|roswolf: hi all|pg||
mb|p|nt|hawe45:  A splinter in North would do fine - in later defense|pg||
nt|jfaria:  ola Danilo|pg||
nt|granguru:  brogeland for Angelini team and zapadinski for Mirage arrived|pg||
mb|d|nt|jbgood: hi|pg||
nt|davpro: Thx operator. It looked like an forcing pass-opening :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|runnerup: this is 200 -not enought but ..|pg||
mb|p|nt|davpro: Who is Brogeland playing with?|pg||
nt|roswolf: ty operator|pg||
nt|kirp:  they need to take ruff quickly or 4@H makes|pg||
mb|p|nt|kirp:  intersting hand to start off with|pg||
nt|granguru:  this is round 6/7 of swiss stage in poznan, Poland|pg||
nt|kirp:  looks like down 1 or 2|pg||
pc|dK|nt|davpro: Ah- there the name came|pg||
nt|runnerup: @s ruff needed|pg||
nt|granguru:  Looks like precision system in NS |pg||
pc|d2|nt|hawe45:  You have seen too manu bad overcalls, when you sell out with the North hand|pg||
nt|roswolf: missing the @DQ they have to diagnose they have extra trump length to compensate|pg||
nt|kirp:  dangerous hand as 5@D makes EW|pg||
pc|d6|nt|kirp:  looks like both pairs play some version of Precision @C|pg||
pc|dA|pg||
nt|jfaria:  routine 4@s 4 those 2|pg||
pc|c2|nt|Gerben42:  south hand is known as Bridge World Death Hand (BWDH)|pg||
nt|Gerben42:  invitational values with 3-card support for partner|pg||
nt|bagman: South has a nice hand with spade values and N has an easy raise to game with 2 aces|pg||
nt|hawe45:  East has built a trap - will remove to 5 @H, only losing 100 I think|pg||
nt|hawe45:  Is there a reward for "slowest bid hand of the tournament" - without special reason...|pg||
nt|bridge_one: Hello all|pg||
nt|runnerup: hi all|pg||
nt|hawe45:  Hello|pg||
nt|jfaria:  Zaleski needs some results tocach up the playoffs |pg||
pc|c4|nt|Gerben42:  with Qxxxx x Axxx xxx North would pass and 4@S would be cold|pg||
nt|roswolf: 1nt played the other way round - no spade lead|pg||
pc|cK|nt|danilo1: 4@S will make (prob. +1) .. .in ev. 5@D, declarer needs to guess @H (must play 9 from hand) for -2 |pg||
nt|runnerup: very dangerous I wander if 3nt was to play or some minors|pg||
pc|cA|pg||
nt|Gerben42:  but there is normally no perfect answer|pg||
pc|d7|nt|roswolf: 10 tricks are on ice here|pg||
nt|roswolf: players names will be up in a mo|pg||
nt|jbgood: going through the motions|pg||
nt|roswolf: 3 controls and west will ask for the queen|pg||
nt|roswolf: in the other room|pg||
pc|d3|nt|runnerup: looks dangerous -all tricks possible|pg||
nt|davpro: W probably showed 4@s and E might have shown 4@h. I don't know their system :(|pg||
nt|granguru:  5@C could have been made NS|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|roswolf: didnt bother played his pard for 3+ diamonds or the queen|pg||
nt|roswolf: 3@D may yhave promised 3+diamonds|pg||
nt|kirp:  @S suit was hidden by N|pg||
pc|d4|pg||
nt|MolvaM: who can hold Qxx diamonds? thats the question|pg||
nt|kirp:  S must be disappinted that dummy has all 3 missing trumps|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|dT|pc|d8|nt|roswolf: only problem is the potential 3-0 trump break|pg||
nt|roswolf: doesnt matter here:)|pg||
nt|MolvaM: does the lead tell any story|pg||
pc|h6|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|jbgood: puppet i think - then 3@d shows 1 or 2 4 card majors, and deny 5|pg||
pc|s3|nt|hawe45:  13 tricks - over|pg||
pc|s2|nt|hawe45:  or 12|pg||
pc|s6|pg||
nt|bagman: One of the answers is to use an artificial tool to separate hands with 3 card spades and those with 0-2|pg||
nt|bridge_one: and 6 is down with @H lead|pg||
nt|davpro: y- that was my guess too|pg||
pc|c8|nt|jbgood: then responder bids the suit he doesnt have |pg||
pc|c5|pc|c6|pc|cJ|pg||
nt|granguru:  Gomerov's X is a risky one...with 6@c and the void it is almost sure partner is waiting for a x to be converted|pg||
pc|sA|nt|runnerup: y a big swing for Joker to start|pg||
nt|kirp:  looks like down 2 however|pg||
pc|s8|nt|athene: hi good morning everyone|pg||
nt|kirp:  3N looked ambiguous to me|pg||
pc|sT|nt|danilo1: both teams ... actually, this is the last table in grop A|pg||
pc|s4|pg||
nt|hawe45:  Funny hand|pg||
nt|bridge_one: funny for N/S |pg||
nt|hawe45:  1590 - a score not seen so often...|pg||
pc|s9|pc|sQ|pc|h2|pc|s5|pg||
nt|granguru:  yes 3NT makes easily|pg||
nt|kirp:  same result in OR|pg||
nt|kirp:  and identical auction|pg||
pc|d5|nt|davpro: Declarer can count to 9. Lets see if he tries for more|pg||
nt|davpro: nope|pg||
nt|jbgood: he actually had 10 from the top if n really discarded 2 hearts|pg||
pc|s7|pc|d9|pc|h8|pg||
pc|c3|pc|hT|mc|6|pg||
qx|o2|st||md|4SJ82HJT3DAQT942C4,S3HAK86DJCAKT9653,ST76HQ7542D765CJ8,SAKQ954H9DK83CQ72|sv|n|nt|rcerreto: a very good 6@c for EW|pg||
mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|nt|rcerreto: bidding 3@s with a good hand for @c is, maybe, too much space consuming|pg||
mb|4C|mb|p|mb|4D!|nt|rcerreto: W overcome the problem|pg||
mb|p|mb|6C|mb|p|mb|p|nt|rcerreto: well done|pg||
mb|p|pc|d7|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|dJ|pg||
nt|Walddk8: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswrunda6.html|pg||
nt|Walddk8: Zapadinski is playing at both tables. Could you please check, operator?|pg||
nt|vugraphpld: S is thinking|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|cT|pc|d5|pc|d3|pg||
nt|marlowepi: that is the mirage roland|pg||
mc|12|pg||
qx|c2|st||md|4SJ82HJT3DAQT942C4,S3HAK86DJCAKT9653,ST76HQ7542D765CJ8,SAKQ954H9DK83CQ72|sv|n|nt|eamongall: Here defence need to find the @C ruff in time to beat 4@Hs |pg||
nt|roswolf: 10 or 11 tricks operator?|pg||
nt|davpro: there was actually 12 to take (double dummie)|pg||
nt|pelu: hi all|pg||
nt|roswolf: solid start for the dutch|pg||
nt|MolvaM: good start|pg||
nt|roswolf: a fortuitous start for angelini|pg||
nt|roswolf: hu bill|pg||
nt|roswolf: hi bill:)|pg||
nt|roswolf: more spice here|pg||
nt|kirp:  1st board is not a nice way to wake up in the match|pg||
nt|kirp:  slam in @Cs available here|pg||
nt|granguru:  6NT 6@s 6@c EW|pg||
nt|granguru:  6NT best contract|pg||
nt|granguru:  6@S worst one|pg||
mb|1S|nt|davpro: 10 point all around. |pg||
nt|Walddk4: Welcome Peter and Murat|pg||
nt|MolvaM: hello|pg||
nt|athene: without the @DA Nunes would likely have led fourth best|pg||
nt|granguru:  do u enter S?|pg||
mb|p|nt|bridge_one: with 6/5 and only 1 defencive trick normally better to play in attack|pg||
nt|danilo1: strang - when we look in names here|pg||
nt|granguru:  red vs green?|pg||
mb|2C!|nt|Walddk1: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswrunda6.html|pg||
mb|p|nt|runnerup: perhaps east should take it away -he has got support in hearts so ..|pg||
nt|jbgood: Angelini seems to be in the A Swiss almost no matter what happens in this match|pg||
nt|roswolf: now a hand for n/s to bid|pg||
nt|runnerup: these guys have good nerves,but average players can shake a bit after start like this|pg||
nt|granguru:  2@C relay FG I think|pg||
mb|2S|nt|davpro: y and Mossop will need a good result to joij them|pg||
nt|roswolf: fulvio has seen his pard's bids before|pg||
mb|p|nt|kirp:  conservative pass by W|pg||
mb|3C|nt|davpro: *join|pg||
nt|jbgood: 24 vps to Mossop |pg||
nt|jbgood: 3 from each group to A - the others to B|pg||
nt|pelu: hard decision by S - 4@H is down 1 and 5@c also down 1|pg||
nt|MolvaM: 5c looks good|pg||
nt|pelu: sorry 5@c making - only defense is @H lead and the @S - kill the entry for the 4. @D|pg||
nt|jfaria:  5! still cheap if opps bid game|pg||
mb|p|nt|hawe45:  About 12 tricks again - but lucky and only in South|pg||
nt|bridge_one: Jxxx in @D are very much - the double by Versace means balanced hand value in @S - Zaleski can reopen|pg||
nt|Walddk1: Zapadinski is playing at both tables. Could you please check, operator?|pg||
nt|kirp:  not sure it is a relay, artificial and GF yes, now natural|pg||
nt|granguru:  2@s suit 3@C suit|pg||
nt|granguru:  Angelini deciding to bid 4@C passint the 3N barrier|pg||
mb|5C|nt|MolvaM: kibs rush in to tell me that if defence plays spades 5c cant make|pg||
nt|runnerup:  @s finess off so no game on|pg||
nt|kirp:  looks like game 1 down|pg||
mb|p|nt|jbgood: then 27 from A and 5 from B go on to the KO stage|pg||
nt|davpro: They found a 6-1 fit instead of the 6-0 fit. On level higher though|pg||
nt|pelu: has to take 3x@C befor @D|pg||
nt|kirp:  no blackwood here|pg||
mb|6C|nt|eamongall: the non-vul Townsend might venture an insurance 4@Hs |pg||
nt|jbgood: but I think a black suit or even NT play better than @ds|pg||
nt|davpro: y|pg||
nt|roswolf: some sort of short suit trial bid?|pg||
mb|p|nt|MolvaM: we see all 4 hands but sometimes at the table it is not obvious to shift to spades|pg||
nt|danilo1: 5@C is on ... and good to avoid 4@H, that is tempting in 4-3 fit (single @S on 3-card side)|pg||
mb|p|nt|bridge_one: so 2@C forcing one round|pg||
nt|hawe45:  Best lead: @S King|pg||
nt|hawe45:  Sorry - NORTH is declarer... - wake up|pg||
nt|pelu: yes defense has to kill @SA|pg||
mb|p|nt|roswolf: south wont get in much to lead trumps|pg||
nt|hawe45:  But would also make on the @S-lead|pg||
nt|bridge_one: lead small @S possible but @H equivalent - many use to overcall 1@S in West to give the lead|pg||
nt|bridge_one: with weak 5332 i agree to pass like Versace|pg||
nt|hawe45:  But an overcall would put the contract in South, so...|pg||
nt|runnerup: nothing really helps,but contracts should have been by south this time -by n= -if spade lead,but now 12|pg||
nt|bridge_one: the option between @H and @S lead is a typical problem in bridge|pg||
nt|kirp:  surprise pass by both!|pg||
nt|granguru:  Angelini learns lessons..not passed this time..(as he did once with 10HCP)|pg||
pc|h4|nt|eamongall: Now defence need to get active |pg||
nt|roswolf: 2nt|pg||
nt|granguru:  HI ALL|pg||
nt|MolvaM: 4s has good chances|pg||
nt|granguru:  HI ALL|pg||
nt|granguru:  Angelini probably showed no first red control a singleton @c support and good @s not more than 5|pg||
nt|kirp:  hard to get to NT played by E, never sure of 7th @C|pg||
pc|h9|nt|MolvaM: with trump Kx inside and clubs 3-3 and the @dK safe|pg||
pc|hT|pc|hA|pg||
nt|roswolf: and wont necessarily lead one anyway:)|pg||
nt|jbgood: hi Roland and all|pg||
nt|jbgood: sry - wrong table:)|pg||
nt|jbgood: maybe 2 |pg||
pc|cA|nt|eamongall: still time |pg||
nt|bagman: N has to duck the @HK if W plays a low heart|pg||
nt|bagman: Both N and S know that there are no spade tricks to make|pg||
nt|MolvaM: even in the case of a spade shift, stuurman has to be very careful to keep all his diamonds and let his spade honor go|pg||
pc|c8|nt|bridge_one: i prefere to lead in the suit more solid, but without a solid suit i prefere the lead from small cards - but is is only a opinion|pg||
nt|jbgood: NT is more flexible than 3@d|pg||
pc|c2|nt|bagman: They also see the clubs so they can make extra tricks only from trumps|pg||
pc|c4|pg||
nt|MolvaM: 46 teams playing in group A (27 will qualify), and 74 teams playing in group B (only 5 teams will qualify)|pg||
nt|kirp:  win 1 imp|pg||
mc|13|nt|kirp:  ty, thought N would bit it|pg||
nt|granguru:  if 5@H over 5@C there was a chance...|pg||
pg||
qx|o3|st||md|1SJ6HQT64DJ5432C93,ST843HA9853DK7CT5,SQ75HJ2DAQ9CAJ842,SAK92HK7DT86CKQ76|sv|e|nt|marlowepi: a pushy game will fail|pg||
nt|Walddk8: We think West is  Orlov|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|nt|Walddk8: OK  Khazanov  then|pg||
mb|d!|mb|2C|mb|2H|nt|Walddk8: At least we don't have the other player twice|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c2|nt|marlowepi: this sedate partial can also fail. spades became hard to find, though it would seem W could bid 2D to ask E to choose|pg||
nt|rcerreto: 4@s from W could even make|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c3|pc|c5|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|h3|pc|h2|pg||
pc|h7|pc|h6|pc|h8|pc|hJ|pg||
pc|s7|pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|s3|pg||
pc|sK|pc|sJ|pc|s4|pc|s5|pg||
pc|s2|pc|d2|pc|s8|pc|sQ|pg||
nt|rcerreto: winning the 2nd @h in hand and playing a @c would have been better|pg||
nt|marlowepi: sorry, i keep getting disconnected. was saying that even from W it is not easy to make 4S as declarer does not have entries to lead twice toward club marriage|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|cK|pc|c9|pc|cT|pg||
pc|c6|nt|rcerreto: you just need to lead them once and play a @c back|pg||
pc|d3|nt|rcerreto: then x ruff|pg||
pc|h5|pc|c4|pg||
pc|hA|pc|d9|nt|rcerreto: at the end N will be forced to lead a @d for the 10th trick (I think)|pg||
pc|s9|pc|hT|pg||
pc|sT|pc|c8|pc|c7|pc|hQ|pg||
pc|d4|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d6|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d8|pc|d5|pc|d7|pg||
pc|cA|pc|dT|pc|dJ|pc|h9|pg||
nt|rcerreto: this is double dummy of course|pg||
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qx|c3|st||md|1SJ6HQT64DJ5432C93,ST843HA9853DK7CT5,SQ75HJ2DAQ9CAJ842,SAK92HK7DT86CKQ76|sv|e|nt|runnerup: took 10 -so -1 imp|pg||
nt|MolvaM: here is the link to running scores http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswleaderb.html|pg||
nt|athene: interesting 3NT call by north in the other room|pg||
nt|runnerup: look 1nt / ns|pg||
nt|granguru:  1 imp for the overtrick|pg||
nt|granguru:  4@S EW depending on the @DK winning or not.|pg||
mb|p|nt|bagman: EW are currently 4th fighting for a medal|pg||
mb|p|nt|kirp:  the polish Club|pg||
mb|1N!|mb|d|nt|jbgood: looks like a peaceful 3 NT by N|pg||
nt|jbgood: or S for that matter|pg||
nt|MolvaM: tokay-baldursson at the open room is a very new partnership which might explain why they couldnt find the grand|pg||
nt|athene: certainly a bit of a gamble but it paid off very nicely this time|pg||
nt|runnerup: east is not tesyed because north stoles hearts|pg||
nt|granguru:  weak  by N1NT |pg||
nt|jbgood: hi all|pg||
nt|granguru:  weak 1NT by N|pg||
nt|kirp:  unlikely to get to game now|pg||
mb|r!|nt|kirp:  rescue redbld|pg||
nt|granguru:  may have specific types of hands|pg||
mb|p|nt|danilo1: looks like routine 4@H|pg||
mb|2C!|nt|runnerup: normal 4 @h = with no other ideas -from anyone -looks like it ,but..|pg||
nt|granguru:  2-suited continous is one|pg||
nt|granguru:  2@c asks |pg||
nt|granguru:  2@D = @d+@H|pg||
nt|jbgood: W's pass in this context is usually forcing|pg||
nt|jbgood: but not sure with angelini|pg||
nt|granguru:  accepting 1NT xx eventually|pg||
mb|p|nt|kirp:  E should dble 2@C|pg||
nt|jbgood: yes|pg||
mb|2D|nt|bagman: Rimsted clearly gambling with her heart suit|pg||
nt|davpro: yes. 9 easy tricks, but not the best communications...|pg||
nt|jbgood: 1 nt - 2 @h - 2 NT - 3 NT?|pg||
mb|2H|nt|Gerben42:  some would call it practical :)|pg||
nt|bridge_one: all colors taked by weak players :)|pg||
nt|bridge_one: North bid both, @D and @H|pg||
nt|jfaria:  another routine game|pg||
nt|kirp:  a @H lead is not good for defense|pg||
nt|kirp:  N has 3 trix in the suit|pg||
nt|kirp:  as now S can pass|pg||
mb|p|nt|MolvaM: misfit hand but contract seems makable|pg||
nt|roswolf: slam possible here perhaps|pg||
nt|jfaria:  at least for us looking at 4 hands|pg||
nt|kirp:  this will challenge N in the play|pg||
nt|granguru:  took his time |pg||
nt|jbgood: but again - this prdship is not of very firm construction - so ....|pg||
nt|granguru:  he "knew" S was going to say 2@d|pg||
mb|3H|mb|p|nt|athene: 6@S would not be great here even with the @D9|pg||
nt|kirp:  @Ds are sitting wrong or maybe right given lack of entries to N|pg||
mb|4H|nt|pelu: 2@S in OR|pg||
nt|athene: the point being, on a club lead, you have to draw trumps and then cash four hearts to discard a club from the north hand|pg||
nt|runnerup: they might go down here|pg||
mb|p|nt|MolvaM: the first non-alert after 3 rounds of bidding :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|jbgood: N should know that the @c king counts for full - and bid 3 imo|pg||
nt|kirp:  S is happy|pg||
mb|p|nt|davpro: They stopped low, but if @ds are not 3-3 a higher contract would be a struggle|pg||
nt|kirp:  now N has a problem|pg||
nt|granguru:  a terrible contract|pg||
nt|jbgood: W will not be|pg||
nt|kirp:  100 a trick|pg||
nt|kirp:  i make down 3|pg||
nt|granguru:  1@s 2@h 2@D 1@c|pg||
nt|granguru:  but may be only -2|pg||
nt|jbgood: E should ask himself why E didnt jump in hearts (or bid them directly) - because he had 2 suits:)|pg||
nt|kirp:  not easy lead|pg||
pc|cA|nt|danilo1: @CQ lead may create some playing options ... cashing 2 @H immediatelly may be loosing option|pg||
nt|granguru:  if @c help to discard|pg||
pc|c6|nt|granguru:  now -2 as said|pg||
pc|c3|nt|roswolf: although the bidding thus far is cloaked in mystery they seem to be powering into it|pg||
pc|c5|pg||
nt|Gerben42:  with a bit more fortune it would have been a claimer|pg||
nt|bagman: In pairs it might not be that practical as the bonus for the game is not that big as in teams|pg||
nt|granguru:  no no|pg||
nt|granguru:  yes yes|pg||
nt|granguru:  S ruffs @cq but loses a natural trump trick |pg||
nt|granguru:  no fast entry in S hand to cross @D|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|bridge_one: duck this @D could be a idea|pg||
nt|hawe45:  Gives the same result, if South plays safe|pg||
nt|bridge_one: but give at south the chance to fault|pg||
nt|danilo1: well done|pg||
pc|cK|nt|roswolf: 4@S MIGHT BE FINIS|pg||
nt|roswolf: and it is not sure what happened there|pg||
nt|MolvaM: at the other table, tokay asked for keycards and then asked for the trump queen apparently. why??|pg||
nt|roswolf: very true|pg||
pc|c9|nt|hawe45:  Absolutely|pg||
nt|MolvaM: on the previous board|pg||
nt|athene: actually i guess it would be ok (provided the hearts come in)|pg||
pc|cT|pg||
nt|jbgood: 27 teams from A and 5 from B go to the KO stage - with no carry over|pg||
nt|jbgood: running scores: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswleaderb.html|pg||
nt|jbgood: Boye is used to playing tough contracts - but most often there is a glimmer of hope to win:) not so here|pg||
pc|hK|nt|pelu: the @D-lead gave S a fine tempo|pg||
pc|h4|nt|kirp:  that looks like 6 trix for declarer|pg||
nt|granguru:  19 teams are playing for Poland|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h2|pg||
pc|h7|nt|MolvaM: west was somewhat stuck for a good lead|pg||
nt|pelu: 110 = 9 IMP for Monaco|pg||
nt|runnerup: trying to help parner well done -now surely down|pg||
pc|h6|nt|jfaria:  claim is near|pg||
pc|hA|pc|hJ|pg||
pc|h8|pc|c2|nt|kirp:  so it is down 3|pg||
pc|d6|pc|hT|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|dQ|nt|jbgood: the point is that you create swings when you dont bid games on 26 combined |pg||
pc|d8|pg||
pc|dA|pc|dT|nt|davpro: To be fair against N. 2N from S was perhaps a bit low (aswell)|pg||
nt|kirp:  another 5 imps for EW|pg||
pc|d3|pc|dK|pg||
nt|jbgood: I am sure this wil be a game swing for Angelini|pg||
pc|d9|pc|s2|pc|d4|nt|granguru:  better would have been to duck second @h into N hand|pg||
pc|h5|pg||
pc|sT|pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|s6|pg||
nt|MolvaM: 9 imp from a partscore hand is good|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|kirp:  now the squeeze if S ruffa|pg||
nt|kirp:  an dleads a @D|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|s3|nt|jbgood: it shows 10-11 hcps nevertheless|pg||
pc|c4|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|jbgood: nice defense|pg||
pc|h9|nt|kirp:  good play by S|pg||
nt|jbgood: hmm|pg||
mc|8|nt|kirp:  oops, no congrats|pg||
pg||
qx|o4|st||md|2SAT74HT5DAQTC9872,S863HKQ876D8CQJT6,SKQJ2HAJDKJ9642CA,S95H9432D753CK543|sv|b|mb|p|nt|rcerreto: what about 7@s here?|pg||
nt|marlowepi: if you lead small to an honor and then small back, S wins and leads a diamond, down one. if you lead back D honor, N  can deliver uppercut|pg||
mb|1D!|mb|p|mb|2C!|mb|p|mb|2S|nt|rcerreto: how can S win? 10@c is higher than the 9|pg||
mb|p|mb|2N!|mb|p|nt|rcerreto: but maybe we should look after this one which is interesting|pg||
nt|marlowepi: i was covering the possibility of leading the ten to an honor. no reason to, but just being thorough|pg||
mb|3S!|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|nt|marlowepi: W can throw a D loser on the upperut but i think NS would still have to get a 4th trick|pg||
mb|5C!|mb|p|nt|rcerreto: given the very sound 1-level openings (14+), the strength needed for a forcing 2 over 1|pg||
mb|5D!|mb|p|mb|5H!|nt|rcerreto: is less than usual for Fantoni-Nunes|pg||
mb|p|mb|6D|mb|p|nt|marlowepi: 7S best|pg||
mb|7S|nt|marlowepi: as rodolfo said an hour ago:)|pg||
mb|p|nt|rcerreto: well done|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|h4|pc|h5|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg||
nt|rcerreto: even with 4-1 @s, a club ruffed would lead to 13 tricks|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s9|pc|s4|pc|s3|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s5|pc|s7|pc|s6|pg||
mc|13|pg||
qx|c4|st||md|2SAT74HT5DAQTC9872,S863HKQ876D8CQJT6,SKQJ2HAJDKJ9642CA,S95H9432D753CK543|sv|b|nt|bagman: with both spades and diamonds open 3NT requires some luck|pg||
nt|davpro: So, with less and 3-4-1-5 distibution he would always pass?|pg||
nt|jbgood: yes|pg||
nt|MolvaM: zmud has 5-5 reds again|pg||
nt|MolvaM: anyway...|pg||
nt|MolvaM: another lively hand|pg||
nt|roswolf: another freakish deal|pg||
nt|athene: west isn't quite worth 2@H i think in their style|pg||
nt|kirp:  that was down 1, wasnt it|pg||
nt|kirp:  it went down 2, so S led a @D back and squeezed pard|pg||
mb|p|nt|roswolf: hi all|pg||
nt|pelu: 5@h is max|pg||
nt|jfaria:  slam zone|pg||
nt|kirp:  VG, need to fix score on 23|pg||
nt|runnerup: yes -i think so too --this 3nt must be played by east or 5 loosers can come up|pg||
mb|1C|nt|granguru:  7@S in the OR|pg||
mb|p|nt|bridge_one: same defence in other room |pg||
nt|athene: their 2-level openers are 10-13 and only really, really huge 9-counts qualify|pg||
nt|roswolf: indeed not now here come the fireworks|pg||
nt|athene: in third seat, of course, things are relaxed a bit... :)|pg||
nt|roswolf: :)|pg||
nt|kirp:  Is E's dble penalties?|pg||
nt|kirp:  7@S or 6@Ds|pg||
mb|1S|nt|athene: north will lebensohl his way to 3@H i guess|pg||
nt|roswolf: can west rdbl for blood here?|pg||
mb|p|nt|bridge_one: 2@H is limited at 9 hcp 3 cards raise|pg||
nt|roswolf: indeed|pg||
nt|MolvaM: 3rd slam hand in a row?|pg||
nt|jfaria:  better in @d|pg||
nt|danilo1: if ev. 6@S ... @C lead or @H and @C switch may be vital|pg||
nt|danilo1: *is vital for defense|pg||
nt|danilo1: ... rite contract (unbeatable) is not 6@S ... but 6@D ... guess difficult to come there |pg||
nt|runnerup: so double for takeout -problems in bidding by west perhaps|pg||
nt|jbgood: sure well bid to get to the grand|pg||
mb|2C!|nt|runnerup: you have to guess well to make 4 @h -but that is bedt|pg||
nt|hawe45:  A poor 4 @H - but you might be forced to "guess" right|pg||
nt|bridge_one: East is evaluating what bid|pg||
nt|runnerup: this @d lead asked may help to get rid off spade looser|pg||
nt|jbgood: choice between dbl and 1 NT...|pg||
nt|jbgood: pass never an option for Boye on a near opener|pg||
nt|roswolf: lebensohl is heading n/s into danger here|pg||
nt|athene: well, whether he can or not, he didn't|pg||
mb|p|nt|roswolf: east will leap high|pg||
nt|MolvaM: leader board and running scores http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswleaderb.html|pg||
nt|roswolf: but is it high enough|pg||
nt|athene: sometimes if you redouble in these auctions you help opps because they now have more room to scramble for the best fit|pg||
mb|2D!|nt|jbgood: but defense may start with 3 spades and 5 hearts|pg||
nt|roswolf: this is where south needs discipline|pg||
nt|kirp:  EW play a strong @C, so this shows points|pg||
mb|p|nt|jbgood: not any more|pg||
nt|davpro: 8 quick tricks for defense here on a spade lead. 7 for declarer on that lead|pg||
nt|jbgood: 7 th in the bag|pg||
nt|athene: also you warn them with borderline hands to stay low|pg||
nt|roswolf: 3@S WHATEVER IT MEANS SEEM OVER THE TOP - WEST SHAPENS HIS AXE|pg||
nt|athene: so here for example if west had redoubled, south might well have decided his partner didn't have what was needed|pg||
nt|roswolf: sharpens|pg||
nt|jfaria:  4@c must be @d |pg||
mb|4S|nt|MolvaM: lets see if they can locate the missing @d control|pg||
nt|roswolf: they should do|pg||
nt|roswolf: the flexible double|pg||
nt|roswolf: ouch is comming|pg||
mb|p|nt|bagman: Declarer needs to ruff the heart losers and discard a club on a diamond|pg||
nt|hawe45:  UNDO|pg||
nt|MolvaM: spade honors not so attractive for madala|pg||
nt|roswolf: this may well be passed|pg||
nt|roswolf: south has nothing to cue and has soft club values|pg||
mb|p|nt|kirp:  I think pass followed ny pass or 3N would have been better bid by E|pg||
mb|p|nt|roswolf: they dont have a lot of hcp to spare|pg||
nt|pelu: in OR NS in 6@H - looks like S gave a false cue bid in @D - but it was an artifical bidding over 6 round|pg||
nt|MolvaM: wow thats enterprising|pg||
nt|roswolf: i think the italians are merciful|pg||
nt|kirp:  not well bid here|pg||
nt|kirp:  thought this was a strong club auction|pg||
nt|jbgood: most pairs have bid to 7 - but a few rested in six, and even fewer in game|pg||
pc|d8|nt|MolvaM: in another table north could go with J2N and that might be a problem|pg||
nt|danilo1: exactelly ... if Alfredo decides to try more than 4@S ... he will not bid Diamonds :)|pg||
nt|danilo1: I believe 4@C was just cue|pg||
nt|jfaria:  456 kibs tell me 4@c is just a cue |pg||
nt|jfaria:  being a cue, no way to reach @d :(|pg||
nt|Walddk1: Not likely as we only have 285 here|pg||
pc|d2|nt|roswolf: i am told they are in slam in the other room|pg||
nt|roswolf: well he still likes his hand|pg||
nt|jfaria:  just a figure of speach :)|pg||
nt|danilo1: NS have done very well to enter bidding ... if South pass, EW would have time to find @D |pg||
pc|d5|nt|MolvaM: well even if diamonds are not led. no way to get rid of the 2 losers|pg||
nt|roswolf: and that is enough for norberto:)|pg||
nt|MolvaM: does 4s have any specific meaning?|pg||
nt|MolvaM: or just an old fashioned cue?|pg||
pc|dQ|pg||
nt|runnerup: no fight now just posible over tricks |pg||
nt|roswolf: yes i want to bid on and i have a spade control|pg||
nt|roswolf: the latter|pg||
nt|roswolf: this seems an easy-ish make|pg||
pc|s4|nt|bagman: The @DA must be with E: if W has it, then E has the clubs|pg||
nt|hawe45:  But how can you play bridge - NOT leading partners suit with Ace-x???|pg||
nt|hawe45:  You MUST have seen too many bad overcalls|pg||
nt|bridge_one: 2@H now|pg||
nt|MolvaM: try both finesses and hope that the @d10 takes care of itself|pg||
nt|roswolf: the pass of 4@S said dont lead one i am told:) so he follows his own suggestion:)|pg||
nt|Walddk1: Good morning to Glen Ashton|pg||
nt|glen: hi|pg||
nt|jfaria:  hard to tell probably Lauria would treat is hand as single suited..|pg||
pc|s3|nt|pelu: very controles bidding here|pg||
nt|roswolf: safe enough here|pg||
nt|athene: declarer's concern on a diamond shift is whether to finesse the @C9|pg||
nt|roswolf: now off|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|athene: but i don't think he will|pg||
pc|s5|pg||
mc|13|nt|hawe45:  Happy Christmas now|pg||
nt|bridge_one: push hand|pg||
nt|runnerup: looks srange but no spade losers went away |pg||
nt|runnerup: perhaps has been a better idea to pass and wait for partners d --but ofcause partner can pass too -but if y double partner never bids nt -because you have all spades|pg||
pg||
qx|o5|st||md|3SAK6H96432DAJC953,ST95H5DT8765CKJT8,S8742HAKQTD94CAQ6,SQJ3HJ87DKQ32C742|sv|n|mb|1C!|mb|p|nt|marlowepi: there are points of interest in the polay of 4H here but the cards lie in such friendly fashion that it is all moot|pg||
mb|1D!|mb|p|mb|1H!|mb|p|mb|2D!|mb|p|nt|rcerreto: 1@d, as usual, is transfer|pg||
mb|2H!|nt|rcerreto: 2@d, GF|pg||
mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d4|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|hA|pc|h7|pg||
nt|rcerreto: assuming E has KQ in @d, after @h run, is 100%|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|s5|pg||
pc|h3|pc|d6|pc|hK|pc|h8|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|hJ|pc|h4|pc|c8|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sQ|pc|sK|nt|rcerreto: after AK@S and @s..|pg||
pc|s9|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d7|pc|d9|pc|dQ|pg||
nt|rcerreto: if E wins he's endplayed|pg||
nt|rcerreto: in case he had 4@s, you discard one club on the fourth @s|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s6|pc|sT|pc|s7|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c3|nt|rcerreto: if W wins and crosses @d, E is endplayed|pg||
mc|11|nt|rcerreto: if crosses @c, you win the A and play a @d back|pg||
pg||
qx|c5|st||md|3SAK6H96432DAJC953,ST95H5DT8765CKJT8,S8742HAKQTD94CAQ6,SQJ3HJ87DKQ32C742|sv|n|nt|Gerben42:  after 1@C the E hand is too big for 4@H I guess|pg||
nt|bagman: NS can make a minor suit slam|pg||
nt|bagman: Maybe EW have some Namyats type of device over 1m openings|pg||
nt|Gerben42:  3N-2 was only worth 20%|pg||
nt|Gerben42:  last round not finished yet?|pg||
nt|bagman: If N can show real clubs, S hand becomes very valuable with the source of tricks, heart control and trump support|pg||
nt|Gerben42:  if it starts 1@C 4@H, what does S bid?|pg||
nt|Gerben42:  4NT perhaps|pg||
nt|bagman: but E has a hand where she can prevent NS from changing that information. After 1@C, E can bid 4@H and then?|pg||
nt|Gerben42:  esp. tough if 1@C can be short (3 or even 2 cards)|pg||
nt|bagman: if 4NT shows primary diamonds and secondary clubs then it's the bid|pg||
nt|Gerben42:  the problem with such a bid is - what will pd think it is|pg||
nt|bagman: I wouldn't be surprised if there are some other agreements for the meaning of 4NT|pg||
nt|bagman: or no agreements :)|pg||
nt|Gerben42:  this is an area where regular partnerships are ahead of the game|pg||
nt|bagman: 6@HX is 500; it's better than the vulnerable game for EW so they might take the sac|pg||
nt|runnerup: 11 in both tables and we though how to make 10|pg||
nt|MolvaM: specs tell me slam makable if no @d lead|pg||
nt|MolvaM: well if you can duck a diamond and then squeeze somebody afterwards :) maybe|pg||
nt|MolvaM: not sure if this play was superior|pg||
nt|roswolf: yes|pg||
nt|roswolf: for running scores http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswleaderb.html|pg||
nt|athene: south could make 6 of a red suit here if only he could get to dummy twice (lead the @H7 picks the suit up)|pg||
nt|roswolf: there will be some fun and games here|pg||
nt|athene: sorry - of course he can do it|pg||
nt|athene: lead to @SA, and lead the small heart|pg||
nt|athene: then later get to dummy with a heart and lead a diamond to the queen|pg||
nt|athene: easy!|pg||
nt|roswolf: hmm perhaps not at the table -in the bidding|pg||
nt|athene: only needs east to have @HHx and @DKx|pg||
nt|roswolf: game not reached at the other table|pg||
nt|athene: hampson-greco playing precision so 1@D is nebulous|pg||
nt|athene: south can be very aggressive if he knows his partner actually has some diamonds|pg||
nt|athene: but not when it might just be two small|pg||
nt|roswolf: indeed these kind of hands are horrible for strong club systems|pg||
nt|roswolf: or less bill|pg||
nt|athene: well it's at least a doubleton for them i think; they use 2@D for the short diamond hands|pg||
nt|vugraphplc: Nunes call director|pg||
nt|roswolf: short of bds!?or something wrong with the last hand?|pg||
nt|vugraphplc: becouse 2nt invit or forsing |pg||
nt|athene: hmmm - they are not happy about something from the previous board, i guess|pg||
nt|athene: ah - you mean nunes was told that 2NT was showing a good hand and that is why he didn't double?|pg||
nt|danilo1: this is anothe swing possibility|pg||
nt|danilo1: meant 6@D (@S)|pg||
nt|kirp:  score is really 25-10|pg||
nt|granguru:  a very expensive hand|pg||
nt|granguru:  which will most probably decide the winner of the match |pg||
mb|1N|nt|Gerben42:  something to be said for 5@H overcall too|pg||
nt|bridge_one: in 4@H in other match one made one down|pg||
nt|hawe45:  5 @D N/S should end the auction|pg||
nt|roswolf: wont make much difference anyway|pg||
nt|runnerup: ns has a good score open room ew has some 2h to make|pg||
mb|p|nt|MolvaM: if trumps were 3-1 he would have to fall back on the @d hook|pg||
nt|granguru:  1 NT 13-15|pg||
mb|2D|nt|bagman: against a strong 1@C 5@H would be fine|pg||
nt|runnerup: 3nt also,but ew can bid more|pg||
mb|p|nt|roswolf: 4@S here is the likely spot|pg||
nt|roswolf: a heart partial would be sensible|pg||
mb|2H|nt|bridge_one: 5@D can be beated with @S lead|pg||
nt|runnerup: no just loose that|pg||
mb|p|nt|runnerup: small from table |pg||
nt|jbgood: some lucky day you make 6 @s on this lot - but not today|pg||
nt|athene: 1nt now? :) - he does have seven stoppers in the unbid suit|pg||
nt|roswolf: the diamond suit now consigned to the dustbin|pg||
nt|athene: i bet a lot of partnerships don't know what a jump in 4th suit means|pg||
nt|athene: i.e. 3@D here - is that natural forcing, natural non-forcing, or what?|pg||
nt|roswolf: what is wrong with a natural 1@D RESPONSE?|pg||
nt|glen: peaceful 4@h here|pg||
nt|danilo1: NS need to stop on time (5@H still on time) ... ev. 4@S or 5@D by EW will be too expensive|pg||
nt|jfaria:  3@d ends any slam mess in N/S intentions|pg||
mb|3N|nt|kirp:  should make this for push|pg||
nt|runnerup: true ew can not tough clubs so looser gous so @s later|pg||
mb|p|nt|roswolf: south is sensible|pg||
nt|MolvaM: west also :)|pg||
nt|MolvaM: would have been interesting to watch 3@dX|pg||
nt|athene: no-one ever bids a strong 7-card minor if they have a major of any description|pg||
mb|4H|nt|bridge_one: after pass at 5@C @S lead became possible|pg||
nt|hawe45:  Lightner...|pg||
nt|bridge_one: @S ruff, K @C - declarer lose the ruff, one @C and A@H|pg||
nt|roswolf: yup he had the colors to help him|pg||
nt|athene: i think officially in SAYC a jump in 4th suit is defined as natural and invitational|pg||
nt|glen: ok, a quiet 5@H|pg||
mb|p|nt|runnerup: ok wrong hand|pg||
nt|hawe45:  No right hand|pg||
nt|bridge_one: many pair use pass at 5@C like OK to lead @C, instead DBL means to lead in another suit|pg||
nt|bridge_one: but i don't know the gadget played by E/W|pg||
nt|jbgood: investigating for a club contract (slam?) and got no reaction of a positive kind |pg||
mb|p|nt|runnerup: so it was all academical|pg||
mb|p|nt|bagman: Malinowski has very little defense and can hope that they go down only 3|pg||
nt|athene: but it's one of those dark corners that no-one knows about|pg||
nt|roswolf: 1-5-7-0 will not be an obvious shape to the defenders|pg||
pc|h7|nt|athene: @SK to the ace, diamond finesse i guess|pg||
nt|danilo1: guess will not miss the jead after bidding :)|pg||
nt|kirp:  this should make 5, for no swing|pg||
pc|h2|nt|bridge_one: now np|pg||
nt|MolvaM: trump lead effective stop a club ruff|pg||
nt|athene: fantoni might stick the @DK in|pg||
nt|roswolf: but north made a normal if aggressive raise to the vul game|pg||
nt|danilo1: *lead|pg||
pc|h5|nt|pelu: kibs - if u know EW-bidding then help us :)|pg||
pc|hT|pg||
nt|bagman: Good time to take the save; in pairs taking an 800 save against a making slam is not a way to win; normally you should take your chances and try to beat the slam|pg||
nt|jbgood: @d cue was what S did NOT want to get|pg||
nt|granguru:  last hand N knowing p had 4@s cards misvalued his hand|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|davpro: But from Ns view; doesn't it seem as if S hasn't got a @h cue?|pg||
pc|h8|pc|h3|pc|d5|pg||
nt|athene: now declarer is worried the @DQ might get ruffed, so he would like to lead a diamond from dummy|pg||
nt|athene: but entries are a bit on the short side|pg||
pc|hA|pc|hJ|nt|jbgood: N looks to take no notice...|pg||
nt|jbgood: S bid well - N somewhat undiciplined - slam is more like a Roland one (which in the old days would be called a Norwegian slam)|pg||
nt|kirp:  q@C next?|pg||
nt|kirp:  knows S has another @S, so needs to take out entry|pg||
pc|h4|nt|davpro: This could take a while, but will end with 1 down...|pg||
nt|jbgood: If N has the @c Q in stead of the @d Q his hand would be better though|pg||
pc|c8|pg||
nt|bagman: (unless the slam is such that everybody bids and makes it)|pg||
pc|s2|nt|athene: when you have a hand like south's, your worst nightmare is getting forced, losing trump control|pg||
pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|s5|pg||
nt|MolvaM: 2 slams equalized the score|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s9|nt|roswolf: this is on track|pg||
nt|granguru:  expected some losed points in @C..|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sJ|pg||
pc|s6|pc|sT|nt|jbgood: another swing for Angelini i reckon|pg||
nt|athene: if things go badly wrong you can end up an embarrassingly large number down|pg||
pc|s7|pc|sQ|pg||
nt|granguru:  lost..sorry|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|athene: but all is well|pg||
pc|dA|nt|jbgood: running scores here: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/orrrunda7.html|pg||
nt|davpro: Kopecky made 6@s against Rosenthal on the j of @c lead...|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d4|pg||
pc|c3|pc|cT|pc|cQ|nt|pelu: 1Nt = 6-11|pg||
nt|roswolf: an effortless 11 tricks|pg||
nt|pelu: 2@C = @C, 2@D relay|pg||
pc|c2|pg||
pc|s8|mc|11|pg||
qx|o6|st||md|4SAT85HJ9DAQJ432C4,SK76HQ872DK986C62,S32HT653DTCAQJT83,SQJ94HAK4D75CK975|sv|e|nt|rcerreto: only 5@s in E could set|pg||
mb|1C!|mb|1D|nt|rcerreto: a nice hand to be shown in a class, I think|pg||
mb|1H|nt|marlowepi: should be dull artial here|pg||
mb|2C|mb|d!|an|fit|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|vbman: hi all|pg||
nt|Walddk8: Welcome Kursat|pg||
nt|rcerreto: hi|pg||
pc|h2|nt|rcerreto: 3@c was better|pg||
pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|h9|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d2|nt|vbman: the dia ten makes the difference to escape a dbl|pg||
pc|dK|pc|dT|pg||
pc|h7|pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|hJ|pg||
nt|vbman: might loose their way|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s5|pc|s7|pc|s2|pg||
nt|rcerreto: against strong card players you are never at ease doubling part scores|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sT|pc|sK|pc|s3|pg||
pc|s6|nt|vbman: if u dbl a partial a partial even if u misdefend u must set it two tricks|pg||
mc|6|pg||
qx|c6|st||md|4SAT85HJ9DAQJ432C4,SK76HQ872DK986C62,S32HT653DTCAQJT83,SQJ94HAK4D75CK975|sv|e|nt|bagman: If declarer planned to steal a the spade, she should have tried it before drawing trumps; the early play should have been either the steal attempt or claim -3 :)|pg||
nt|bridge_one: in other room the auction was different, so the lead was @C|pg||
nt|jbgood: nice major fits around the table|pg||
nt|jbgood: I may just have to stand corrected - i am told that Angelini in the OR also bid to 6 @s|pg||
nt|davpro: There will be (high) bidding :)|pg||
nt|MolvaM: leader board and running scores http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswleaderb.html|pg||
nt|granguru:  2@c is normally in Pre a trump ask|pg||
nt|granguru:  2@D showed min 4 cards..|pg||
mb|1N|nt|roswolf: 4@S seems to be good here|pg||
nt|runnerup: a little under 1/2 game in @h so will be bidden vulnerable |pg||
nt|Walddk1: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswrunda5.html  running now|pg||
nt|granguru:  8-10 usually |pg||
mb|3D|nt|roswolf: this could be colorful|pg||
nt|kirp:  4@Hs went down in OR, looks close to making|pg||
mb|p|nt|MolvaM: 2d alerted?|pg||
nt|roswolf: yeah @D:)|pg||
nt|MolvaM: ok means no 4 card spades|pg||
mb|p|nt|bridge_one: 3@H for N/S and 3@S for E/W here|pg||
nt|runnerup: may end for double partscore swing|pg||
nt|MolvaM: thanks kibs|pg||
nt|roswolf: yes they use 1NT to show 4 spades +a longer minor|pg||
nt|MolvaM: Im told zmud-bal play the raptor convention |pg||
nt|roswolf: west has an automatic 4@S|pg||
nt|MolvaM: maybe invented by a mr raptor? :)|pg||
nt|pelu: par-contract is 6@d - 5@s and 5@d making|pg||
nt|MolvaM: west thinks abt how many spades to bid?|pg||
nt|pelu: red against green 4@S is fine|pg||
nt|roswolf: n/s comphrensively outbid the americans on the last one|pg||
nt|runnerup: yes better actually -was down anyway |pg||
nt|kirp:  this is all str @C, negative 1@D |pg||
mb|p|nt|bridge_one: 2@H open probably 10/12 constructive (and 2@D multi)|pg||
nt|davpro: When preempting with 3 in a minor you normally do not have a 4 card major. Nothing said about 5 card suits :)|pg||
nt|roswolf: even on 3 rounds of trumps|pg||
pc|c6|nt|jbgood: hehe|pg||
nt|roswolf: DBL presumably just shows cards|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Welcome to Gy Szalay|pg||
nt|szalay:  hi all|pg||
nt|roswolf: and here a thin 3nt|pg||
nt|athene: hi|pg||
nt|roswolf: hi:)|pg||
nt|granguru:  3@D can be alternate suits that is @D+@S|pg||
nt|granguru:  more @d |pg||
nt|granguru:  S knows finesse is not working. can establish @C but no fast entry to dummy|pg||
nt|granguru:  to throw @H|pg||
pc|cA|nt|roswolf: well now judgment comes into it|pg||
nt|MolvaM: 5 level belongs to the opps :)|pg||
nt|pelu: diff to decide on 5-level|pg||
nt|roswolf: south tempted to bid 6?|pg||
nt|MolvaM: zmud cant be sure of void spades so will probably pass|pg||
nt|athene: 1@C natural (ish), strong (ish) and forcing|pg||
nt|szalay:  N-S are a rare pair from Hungary: they r not from Budapest|pg||
nt|szalay:  from our Sun City, Szeged, and could improve a lot thx to BBO|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Are you saying people don't play bridge outside Budapest?|pg||
pc|c5|nt|pelu: for sure W cant bid 5@s - but I have been wrong before :)|pg||
nt|kirp:  4@S looks like a strange bid?|pg||
pc|c4|pg||
nt|bagman: Having showed 44 majors and getting no reaction from partner, W could show his 3 card support expecting to be in a decent trump suit|pg||
nt|jfaria:  @s will prevail |pg||
nt|runnerup: strange bidding to worse game but mames now|pg||
nt|kirp:  strangely enuff, its cold|pg||
nt|kirp:  now with the lead|pg||
nt|kirp:  play 3 trumps, then finesse in @Cs for @D pitch|pg||
nt|kirp:  good bid by E!!!|pg||
nt|kirp:  S is wondering how to keep down undertrix|pg||
pc|h3|nt|eamongall: If anybody is following a pair you can find their probable table from the following |pg||
nt|jbgood: Boye may lead a club now and get a plus score ag 5|pg||
nt|roswolf: i think it was the @C position which influenced him more|pg||
nt|roswolf: not much to the play the club ace is right or it isnt:)|pg||
nt|athene: if west invites, east might bid it on the strength of the good club suit, even though he is minimum in terms of hcp|pg||
nt|szalay:  not really, they r from Szeged and few pairs from Pecs|pg||
pc|hK|nt|bagman: S wants to compete but the majors are behind her so she gives up|pg||
nt|bridge_one: Q@C help ,,, opps |pg||
pc|h9|nt|szalay:  Hungary is more or less Budapest orientated, bridge is even centralized|pg||
nt|athene: difficult lead problem for south|pg||
nt|glen: should be three aces and a trump|pg||
nt|runnerup: in other table declarer took advantise off that same lead to put @d looser away ,but lost control because 4-1 and K -offside in @h contract|pg||
pc|h2|pg||
nt|bridge_one: OK|pg||
nt|roswolf: the clubs can of course be set up here for 12 tricks|pg||
nt|pelu: 1@H - 4@D - 4@S - 5@D and 51S by Helgemo!|pg||
nt|pelu: 15 INP to Monaco |pg||
nt|MolvaM: no so easy if east ducks|pg||
nt|athene: north could have made life easier, perhaps, by doubling 1@H|pg||
nt|athene: but he finds the heart anyway|pg||
nt|roswolf: indeed|pg||
nt|athene: some play a double of these transfer responses as some sort of takeout double anyway|pg||
nt|athene: for example after nebulous 1@C - 1@H [spades], X = diamonds and hearts, and 1@S = clubs and hearts|pg||
nt|Walddk4: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswrunda3.html|pg||
nt|athene: but without special agreements of that sort i would have thought double would just be hearts and 1@S would be takeout, the same as after a transfer over 1nt|pg||
nt|szalay:  Mr. Zsak is teacher of Szeged bridge, he was teacher of Mr. Cseho of other table when he attended Faculty of Medicine there. as u know: he is my psychiatrist:)|pg||
nt|kirp:  unless E thinks playing for a simple @H finesse is better option!|pg||
nt|granguru:  a deceptive move|pg||
pc|d5|nt|granguru:  but defense is obvious|pg||
pc|d2|nt|jbgood: even 6@h a good save over 4@s:)|pg||
nt|jbgood: spade ace and a club takes it 1 down|pg||
nt|davpro: Defense better take their tricks at once...|pg||
nt|danilo1: 140 I believe|pg||
pc|d6|nt|jbgood: north really bid his hand to the limit:)|pg||
nt|MolvaM: 27 teams from group-A will qualify for the knockouts. and 5 teams from group-B|pg||
nt|athene: :)|pg||
nt|athene: east might try ducking in dummy and dropping the @H10 to induce north to lay down the @HK|pg||
nt|athene: but that would only work if south would lead the @H9 from @H9xx|pg||
nt|szalay:  as u know: we, Hungarians try to avoid D lead vs NT|pg||
nt|athene: D = doubleton or diamond?|pg||
nt|szalay:  diamond|pg||
pc|dT|pg||
nt|MolvaM: 15 how? 5s cant be made I think|pg||
nt|jfaria:  peacefull partscore|pg||
pc|h5|nt|eamongall: We are covering tables 8-15 as shown  on the results web page ... so the bottom 8 lines are tables H G F E A B C D in that order |pg||
nt|jbgood: @s 6 for a club now|pg||
pc|h4|nt|jbgood: Boye should be able to read that|pg||
nt|roswolf: and probably on this layout so can 6@D|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|athene: declarer can't untangle his black suits here|pg||
pc|hQ|pg||
nt|szalay:  Diamonds for girls, u know|pg||
nt|granguru:  S is trying that EW moves @S |pg||
pc|c2|nt|eamongall: http://b.poznan2011.pl/mxp/fa.html|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|davpro: E could hold 764 from W view|pg||
pc|c7|nt|runnerup: some creek gift so to say|pg||
pc|s5|pg||
nt|kirp:  8 trix|pg||
nt|granguru:  1 TRICK...SUCCESS|pg||
pc|h6|nt|eamongall: this is table 13 of 15 in play tables and 3rd line from bottom of scoresheet |pg||
pc|hA|nt|jbgood: but difficult to think that prd has 5 spades (and a @c void...)|pg||
pc|d3|nt|athene: if he unblocks the @SAK he can't get to his clubs|pg||
pc|h7|pg||
nt|pelu: sorry 5@S down 1 - so only 7 IMP|pg||
nt|szalay:  time for hoping up|pg||
nt|athene: of course we can all see @DK, heart gets the job done|pg||
nt|athene: but not so easy for south|pg||
nt|szalay:  I dont see any layout when small is the correct card|pg||
nt|athene: his partner might have singleton @DQ for example|pg||
nt|roswolf: indeed not|pg||
nt|szalay:  he knows pd's cards|pg||
pc|dA|nt|bagman: Now E can ruff the diamond and try the heart to the K|pg||
nt|eamongall: Most pairs move to the table of the pair below them next ... ie 12 goes where 11 used to be |pg||
pc|d8|nt|jbgood: no - then the 7 for his known strenth|pg||
pc|c3|pc|d7|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|roswolf: well THE RESULT IN THE OTHER ROOM SPEAKS FOT ITSELF|pg||
nt|MolvaM: wow|pg||
nt|MolvaM: amazingly 5s was made. cant see how|pg||
nt|athene: maybe the 2NT bid denied four diamonds|pg||
pc|dK|pc|s2|pc|s4|pg||
nt|jbgood: nobody would give style points for this defense|pg||
mc|8|nt|szalay:  and dummy play is a hint as well|pg||
pg||
qx|o7|st||md|1ST6HAQT65DQ863CA5,S943H973DJ2CJ9863,SAK8HKJ82D954CQT4,SQJ752H4DAKT7CK72|sv|b|mb|1N!|mb|p|nt|marlowepi: i dont think anybody considered doubling there|pg||
nt|rcerreto: due to their system, Fantunes are forced to open 1NT many shapes|pg||
mb|2C!|nt|marlowepi: me too, but not due to system:)|pg||
mb|p|mb|2H|nt|rcerreto: :)|pg||
mb|p|mb|2S!|nt|vbman: if u set all your dbled part scores that may mean u r not doubling enuff|pg||
mb|d|nt|rcerreto: that's pair reasoning|pg||
mb|2N!|mb|p|nt|rcerreto: at imps...|pg||
mb|3C!|mb|p|nt|rcerreto: since doubling, on average, looses one trick for giving the show away...|pg||
mb|3D!|nt|rcerreto: you gain from an initial -3|pg||
nt|vbman: that dbl may chance rout of the defence|pg||
mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s4|nt|vbman: makes now?|pg||
nt|rcerreto: with some guess, yes|pg||
pc|sK|nt|marlowepi: not clear, declarer has a losing option at trick one|pg||
pc|s2|pc|sT|pg||
nt|marlowepi: so far so good though|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c7|pc|cA|pc|c3|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c6|pc|cT|pc|cK|pg||
nt|rcerreto: wrong guess|pg||
nt|rcerreto: up to E now|pg||
nt|marlowepi: i am a bit mystified by this line|pg||
nt|rcerreto: has he any clue about decl. distribution?|pg||
nt|rcerreto: he was looking for establishing 1@c and he got that|pg||
nt|marlowepi: simple approach is spade, a heart, eliminate spades, hearts ending in dummy, D|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|d4|pg||
nt|rcerreto: but then he needs a blockage in @d with the defense unable to play them in time|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d6|pc|dJ|pc|d5|pg||
pc|d7|pc|dQ|nt|marlowepi: establishing a club does what?|pg||
pc|h3|pc|d9|pg||
nt|rcerreto: not much|pg||
nt|vbman: maybe dias after trumps cd be a line all you need is 33 dia and the current cl distribution|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|c7|st||md|1ST6HAQT65DQ863CA5,S943H973DJ2CJ9863,SAK8HKJ82D954CQT4,SQJ752H4DAKT7CK72|sv|b|nt|hawe45:  4 @S making - good luck|pg||
nt|jbgood: playing for the singleton jack with E:) |pg||
nt|davpro: @c to T was obviously wrong if E has 2 @c...I'm sleeping|pg||
nt|jbgood: not the precentage play:)|pg||
nt|davpro: no- @c 2-2|pg||
nt|jbgood: yes|pg||
nt|jbgood: sleeping too:)|pg||
nt|roswolf: yes angelini not getting their own way|pg||
nt|kirp:  so its 25-20 actually|pg||
nt|runnerup: feeling bid perhaps|pg||
nt|kirp:  25-22 sorry|pg||
nt|kirp:  this looks like easy 3N NS|pg||
mb|1H|nt|bridge_one: 5@H 2 down|pg||
nt|granguru:  Nunes went 1 off i  4@H here|pg||
nt|kirp:  NS may get to game in @Hs, not a succcess|pg||
nt|kirp:  2 opening bids, hard to sotp|pg||
mb|p|nt|roswolf: hmm mysterious|pg||
nt|pelu: @H AK |pg||
nt|MolvaM: ahh defence played @hAK|pg||
nt|szalay:  funny, that I read interviews about Fantunes-Angelini affair this morning|pg||
nt|jfaria:  now a choice between to major games|pg||
nt|glen: but W is not selling out cheaply here|pg||
mb|2C!|nt|jfaria:  sure not|pg||
nt|kirp:  1@H a transfer|pg||
nt|kirp:  1@D is unbalanced hand, so I guess N does not want to go 4 penalties|pg||
mb|p|mb|2D|nt|roswolf: not a good result for hungary in the other room|pg||
nt|runnerup: ok this if any must be 3nt all around ,but I have learned not to say it aloud,because something not so normal seems to happen somewhere in all boards |pg||
mb|p|nt|bridge_one: 4@S correct bid !|pg||
nt|MolvaM: well that was a bit of a careless defence I thk|pg||
nt|roswolf: indeed|pg||
nt|roswolf: dont like the spade overcall|pg||
nt|MolvaM: well the alternative is also not attractive|pg||
nt|jfaria:  4@d says nothing about @h i presume, just shows fit/short|pg||
nt|glen: N's pass would be forcing for most, after the 4@D shortness bid|pg||
nt|glen: now S has to decide if his hand is gold, or straw|pg||
mb|4H|nt|jbgood: 5@s made on the unfortunate lead of the @c ace next door|pg||
nt|jbgood: doubled to boot|pg||
mb|p|nt|roswolf: transfer to spades|pg||
nt|roswolf: 1@H|pg||
nt|szalay:  I doubt anyone could miss a game here|pg||
nt|kirp:  1@S denies 4 @Ss|pg||
mb|p|nt|runnerup: north has not found hearts obfiously -so svedish increasing lead perhaps|pg||
nt|jfaria:  depending on agreement|pg||
nt|danilo1: Gold may see @C shortness ... and bid 5@S ... however, not easy choice ...|pg||
nt|kirp:  my explanations are all hypothetical here, have no idea what Poles are actually playing|pg||
mb|p|nt|bagman: E doesn't want to lead from her collection|pg||
nt|bagman: Every card might be right or wrong|pg||
nt|roswolf: but lavazza may suffer in the end|pg||
nt|szalay:  and I wd like to be in 4S, anyway|pg||
nt|athene: most bid more than 1@S with four-card support but i am sure they will unravel it all|pg||
nt|roswolf: OH I COULD VERY EASILY:) |pg||
nt|szalay:  this game about vulnerable bonuses, more or less|pg||
nt|roswolf: might not be good play but.....|pg||
nt|danilo1: correct action - hand looks like double fits|pg||
nt|kirp:  I guess 2@Cs EW can be held to 4 trix|pg||
nt|jbgood: nunes might have won it - but forgot to pull trumps, and opps got a @d ruff|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|roswolf: well a simple 4@S on this one|pg||
nt|MolvaM: but congrats geoffrey for yr prediction powers|pg||
nt|jfaria:  that is a nice discussion about ownership of the hand|pg||
pc|d4|nt|szalay:  bridge wd be a very boring game if we could bid seen by both hands|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d3|pg||
nt|MolvaM: u sensed that defence coming and predicted 5s making  :)|pg||
nt|roswolf: this is cheeky|pg||
nt|MolvaM: wasnt a very scientific sequence|pg||
nt|MolvaM: but effective apparently|pg||
nt|MolvaM: looks like he will establish the 5th heart|pg||
nt|MolvaM: for his 10th trick|pg||
nt|roswolf: yes methinks he is very lucky|pg||
nt|jbgood: that is the legitimate downer lead:)|pg||
nt|granguru:  problem is what to do with @D if you take 3 round of trumps|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|pelu: easy game here - time to go for coffee :)|pg||
nt|pelu: but go fast :)|pg||
nt|MolvaM: here is the running scores and current ranking http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswleaderb.html|pg||
nt|kirp:  ruff a spade and 3 rounds of trumps and hope something good happens |pg||
pc|s6|pc|s3|pc|sA|pg||
nt|kirp:  oops|pg||
pc|h2|nt|MolvaM: 46 teams playing in group A (27 will qualify), and 74 teams playing in group B (only 5 teams will qualify)|pg||
nt|roswolf: you need to qualify for SWISS A then:)|pg||
pc|h4|nt|szalay:  I predict 3 imps for Angelini|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h3|pg||
nt|danilo1: Bd 14 - peacefull 4@S in OR too ... so no swing|pg||
nt|glen: versace not cooperating|pg||
nt|glen: he will only win third @S play|pg||
pc|h5|nt|MolvaM: goes for the crossruff|pg||
pc|h7|nt|hawe45:  Trump-lead, North then ducked the @D...|pg||
pc|hK|nt|kirp:  not sure why that @S play|pg||
pc|s2|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|roswolf: i oncerad a statistic -if after a normal opening bid you bid game whenever you are vul you gain on average 8+ imps unless your opps double 66% of the time!: i doubted those stats ...|pg||
nt|roswolf: at the time but i am getting more convinced the more i play/watch the game|pg||
nt|roswolf: once read|pg||
nt|granguru:  for that you must end in summy and play @D to the Q ..if E takes you repeat the process|pg||
nt|jbgood: no need - Boye never got his @d ruff - I really wonder why|pg||
pc|cK|pc|h6|nt|MolvaM: ohh|pg||
nt|szalay:  if u watch (and especially play) more, u know more:)|pg||
nt|kirp:  declarer may only take 9 trix here.|pg||
nt|runnerup: seems to have +1 in any case anyway |pg||
nt|kirp:  he does but does not know @Ds dont run|pg||
nt|kirp:  may not take @C finesse as not necessary!|pg||
pc|h9|pg||
nt|danilo1: danger is too loose trump control ... or to loose @C trick ... probably -1 as will try 3 @H in West|pg||
nt|kirp:  its easy here but ruffing the spade before last trump puts you in dummy for a @D lead|pg||
pc|d5|pc|dK|pc|d6|pc|d2|pg||
nt|granguru:  12 imps for Mirage|pg||
nt|kirp:  a true mirage|pg||
nt|granguru:  now up 22-18|pg||
nt|kirp:  for E|pg||
pc|d7|nt|jbgood: X-files was nothing compared to this - you really dont believe it - even if you see it:)|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|o8|st||md|2SATHA92D872CAKT76,SQ4HKJT3DAQ94CJ82,SJ87H7654DKT63C43,SK96532HQ8DJ5CQ95|sv|o|nt|marlowepi: if Ds are blocked u can still profit from elimination. he played for clubs to be frozen after all|pg||
mb|1C|mb|p|nt|marlowepi: i mean his play in the club suit was playing for the lie that freezes the suit|pg||
mb|1S|nt|rcerreto: a little bit surprised by Nunes's line of play|pg||
mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|rcerreto: but maybe I'm mislead by looking at all the cards|pg||
mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|c9|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d4|pc|dK|pc|d5|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c5|pc|cK|pc|c8|pg||
nt|rcerreto: well played|pg||
pc|cT|pc|cJ|pc|s7|pc|cQ|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h8|pc|hA|pc|h3|pg||
pc|h2|nt|rcerreto: giving a ruff at once would have made things harder|pg||
pc|hT|pc|h5|pc|hQ|pg||
pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s8|pg||
pc|h9|pc|hJ|pc|h6|mc|7|pg||
qx|c8|st||md|2SATHA92D872CAKT76,SQ4HKJT3DAQ94CJ82,SJ87H7654DKT63C43,SK96532HQ8DJ5CQ95|sv|o|nt|eamongall: My good friends here McGann and Brown |pg||
nt|eamongall: they owe me several pints of guiness |pg||
nt|bridge_one: 4@S made in other room ecause duck the A in @D|pg||
nt|jbgood: 4@s and coffee time|pg||
nt|davpro: I've got coffee all the time :)|pg||
nt|roswolf: yes another hidden advantage of bidding vul games:)|pg||
mb|1N!|nt|MolvaM: yes. but could be more difficult to stay in the top 27 there|pg||
nt|jfaria:  dont think Forrester could win |pg||
mb|p|nt|roswolf: this could be nip and tuck|pg||
mb|2H|nt|szalay:  btw I am quite glad to (present) outcome of this match. I like this guys (and secret, pls) I am not big fan of Fantunes|pg||
nt|athene: well, it's not over yet...|pg||
nt|roswolf: our lips are sealed:)|pg||
mb|p|nt|runnerup: nothing should happen here but ..|pg||
nt|athene: not by any means automatic to wander into 3nt with these NS cards|pg||
nt|szalay:  wd be anyone pass with East hand?|pg||
mb|2S|nt|roswolf: indeed|pg||
nt|roswolf: i hate the overcall|pg||
nt|roswolf: yes|pg||
mb|p|nt|Walddk2: Welcome to Barbara Apel|pg||
nt|barbyh: hi all, Barbara from Las vegas|pg||
nt|runnerup: loosing 3nt or 4h no game onsome chanche in |pg||
mb|p|nt|szalay:  may be I am alone, but dont feel any positive to overcall with hand, especially with passed pd|pg||
nt|runnerup: getting ew sacrifise for nothing|pg||
nt|kirp:  Not sure I understand this action by E|pg||
nt|kirp:  S should balance but this tuff|pg||
mb|3C|nt|eamongall: a decent score for NS for 1NT up 2 on board 7 |pg||
nt|bagman: The spade lead was unlucky for NS|pg||
nt|athene: south might try 3@D now|pg||
mb|p|nt|eamongall: well there is a generous lead from McGann he won;t be happy |pg||
nt|hawe45:  A fast - flat - board|pg||
mb|p|nt|bridge_one: i bet 10 tricks here :)|pg||
nt|roswolf: precisely|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: i would overcall for sure|pg||
nt|roswolf: after 3@D i think north has an automatic 3nt|pg||
nt|runnerup: very speculiar bidding -really like this..|pg||
pc|c2|nt|szalay:  I think 1N is a tipical underbid by underdogs vs, world classes|pg||
nt|szalay:  at least 2N is sufficient|pg||
nt|athene: well, the problem is you know you don't want to play in 2nt|pg||
nt|roswolf: west has seen his pard's overcalls before|pg||
pc|c3|nt|danilo1: misfit hand ... so 3NT |pg||
nt|jfaria:  3nt, what eles?|pg||
nt|granguru:  SS should be -1|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|athene: you want to play in 1nt or 3nt or a diamond partscore|pg||
nt|jfaria:  on the other hand 5@h had a chance|pg||
nt|danilo1: good conclusion by West that declarer has probably only 4-card @S (otherwise could bid 3@D) ... |pg||
pc|cA|pg||
nt|barbyh: could have heldthem to 1 less|pg||
nt|bagman: There is a theory, which states that against blind 3NT one should lead from the worse 4-carder from a 4432|pg||
nt|barbyh: against matchpoints or imps?|pg||
nt|bagman: both|pg||
nt|bagman: I don't subscribe to that theory but I was told that it was backed up by a huge simulation|pg||
nt|eamongall: The good news for McGann on the last board is some 3NT+2 company is appearing ...|pg||
nt|bagman: who knows; at least it makes leading easy|pg||
nt|barbyh: true, |pg||
nt|barbyh: well in this case lead from a club and you holdthemto 4|pg||
nt|bagman: The diamond lead (suggested by the theory) holds the contract to 4, too|pg||
nt|MolvaM: after tomorrow evening the knockouts will start with 32 teams|pg||
nt|runnerup: can he escapepe for 1 down?|pg||
nt|kirp:  even on a good day i see 2 down|pg||
nt|kirp:  and given his bidding, i would gues 3 or more down|pg||
nt|granguru:  even -2|pg||
nt|kirp:  so a small pick up for EW, but not gteed|pg||
pc|cK|nt|kirp:  we have seen down 3 morph  into down 1|pg||
pc|c8|nt|glen: this @S lead reduces communication to S hand to nothing|pg||
pc|c4|nt|granguru:  3 or 4 imps....|pg||
pc|c5|pg||
nt|jfaria:  played by N :)|pg||
nt|runnerup: some chance to increase spades |pg||
pc|c6|pc|cJ|nt|danilo1: ... unfortunately for him ...9 and 7 behind 1086|pg||
nt|jfaria:  Forrester may not see 9 tricks, but L/V have more dificulties in finding 5..|pg||
nt|danilo1: since @DK good, and @C10 coming will probably make ... sooner or later, opps must give him a trick|pg||
nt|kirp:  s thinks he can N a @S ruff, but makes no sense given the 5@C bid !|pg||
pc|h4|pc|c9|pg||
nt|szalay:  2D is an option as well, but u have stopper and kinda D suit, when u dont need length help|pg||
nt|granguru:  a red suit now|pg||
pc|d4|nt|granguru:  not easy|pg||
nt|kirp:  W cant lead a @S|pg||
pc|d3|nt|davpro: the @d losers vanished|pg||
nt|jbgood: not easy to find the @d lead|pg||
nt|davpro: nope|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d2|pg||
nt|athene: south just has a harder problem over 1@S than if east passed|pg||
nt|jfaria:  I mean Gold thx|pg||
nt|kirp:  a @h now and its 3 or more down|pg||
nt|kirp:  good switch|pg||
nt|granguru:  excelent defense by brogeland|pg||
pc|h8|pc|h9|nt|glen: will W exit with a @C?|pg||
nt|jbgood: he has to be on his toes:)|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|glen: (no)|pg||
nt|granguru:  angelini's turn to open @H|pg||
nt|granguru:   second exelent move|pg||
nt|jbgood: but the 8?|pg||
pc|h5|pg||
nt|roswolf: another poor contract but more reasonable to bid|pg||
nt|athene: that's one reason for overcalling|pg||
nt|szalay:  if he has sthg extras, lets play 3N. 2D and 3D isnt bad, but very likely he will decline without AofD|pg||
pc|d9|nt|danilo1: exiting with @C would not help ... since declarer may play @HA and @HQ .. therefore Alfredo (hoping in @HK at pd) tried to search 2 @S tricks |pg||
pc|dT|nt|danilo1: not taking 10 looks like error |pg||
pc|d5|pc|d7|pg||
nt|runnerup: he has them now|pg||
nt|kirp:  too cute|pg||
pc|h6|pc|hQ|pc|hA|nt|jfaria:  home|pg||
nt|danilo1: .. or not ... East must play third @S - or @D@HQ now safe|pg||
pc|h3|pg||
pc|d8|nt|kirp:  now S can throw a @S|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d6|nt|runnerup: so big fight for lost all big lost |pg||
pc|s2|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h7|pc|s3|pc|h2|pg||
pc|hT|nt|granguru:  a kikking defense|pg||
pc|s7|nt|kirp:  W wanted S to misguess @Ss, but no matter here|pg||
nt|granguru:  killing*|pg||
pc|s5|pc|c7|pg||
mc|7|nt|granguru:  no mercy|pg||
nt|granguru:  and the match is tied|pg||
pg||
qx|o9|st||md|3SKT63H72D98CKJT76,S742HT85DKQJT5C84,SA95HK93DA6432C95,SQJ8HAQJ64D7CAQ32|sv|e|mb|1N!|mb|2H!|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|vbman: do they play neg. dbls here?|pg||
pc|h2|nt|rcerreto: they do|pg||
nt|marlowepi: fortunately N has heart nine or lead would give an entry|pg||
pc|h5|nt|vbman: beware of the ten|pg||
nt|marlowepi: surprised E did not try 8 from dummy|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h4|pg||
nt|rcerreto: not playing neither the 10 nor the 8 is strange|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c5|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pg||
pc|h7|pc|h8|nt|marlowepi: 8 seems the card to play|pg||
pc|h9|pc|hQ|pg||
nt|rcerreto: trick with the 5? funny|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c8|pc|c9|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c7|pc|hT|pc|hK|pg||
nt|marlowepi: can allow whole suit to be picked up while gaining an entry, if S has 9x|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d7|pc|d8|pc|d5|pg||
pc|s5|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|s2|pg||
pc|cT|pc|s4|pc|d2|pc|c2|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|dT|pc|d3|pc|h6|pg||
nt|marlowepi: seldom see a wish trick in trumps on opening lead when they are 32:):)|pg||
nt|rcerreto: -2|pg||
pc|hA|pc|d9|pc|dJ|pc|d4|pg||
pc|s8|mc|6|pg||
qx|c9|st||md|3SKT63H72D98CKJT76,S742HT85DKQJT5C84,SA95HK93DA6432C95,SQJ8HAQJ64D7CAQ32|sv|e|nt|bagman: I probably would have lead the @S, too :( (maybe there's something in that theory, after all)|pg||
nt|hawe45:  West must play this 3 NT|pg||
nt|roswolf: more distributional hands|pg||
nt|athene: well 2@D-3@D does show a decent hand so if he has some extra hcp he will bid it anyway|pg||
nt|szalay:  suddent death is coming|pg||
mb|1N!|nt|runnerup: 3nt in wrong hand so chance for Zaleski|pg||
nt|hawe45:  South led a small @C, but East had to go wrong|pg||
nt|kirp:  lots of potential here, but actually a part score|pg||
nt|kirp:  this match has seen too many weak NTs|pg||
mb|2D!|nt|bridge_one: no|pg||
nt|MolvaM: we just love deals with a void rite? :)|pg||
nt|roswolf: :)|pg||
nt|pelu: 11 tricks in @s|pg||
nt|roswolf: hmm 3nt is unlucky to fail here|pg||
nt|szalay:  but it rather looks hungarian death:(|pg||
nt|jbgood: it is not only the NTs that have been weak:)|pg||
mb|p|nt|bridge_one: 1@D 3@D easy ...|pg||
nt|runnerup: 3nt opening not everyones choice|pg||
mb|2H|nt|glen: modern bidding: three value showing bids to you, and you have 10 high card points|pg||
nt|runnerup: north didnt want open 4 @h because he was too good,but he has his 7 tricks and that is it |pg||
nt|kirp:  N has too many @Ds, knows S also has them or a bad hand|pg||
mb|p|nt|MolvaM: 2nt is?|pg||
nt|danilo1: :)|pg||
nt|jfaria:  how many @h will L/V play?|pg||
nt|glen: established partnerships often use transfers over the negative double|pg||
nt|runnerup: they had 800 ta take other table but wanted to 200 away|pg||
nt|kirp:  Note that 3N by E is cold|pg||
nt|granguru:  rofl|pg||
mb|3C|nt|jbgood: quad est demonstrandum|pg||
mb|p|mb|3H|nt|runnerup: winnig some ipms strange way|pg||
nt|hawe45:  To miss this 5 @D - played by West - will bring Zaleski  8 IMP|pg||
nt|jbgood: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/orrrunda7.html enables you to follow the exciting fights for 3rd place in some of the groups|pg||
mb|p|nt|roswolf: this looks boring with no heart barrage|pg||
nt|MolvaM: spade fit and?|pg||
nt|pelu: 5@H could cost 500|pg||
nt|MolvaM: 5@h could just escape for down 3 I guess|pg||
nt|kirp:  and by W goes down 3|pg||
nt|jbgood: (pls forgive my bad Latin)|pg||
nt|granguru:  too high already|pg||
nt|kirp:  quid errrat demonstratum|pg||
nt|kirp:  !!!|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|bagman: W has so much extras that he can afford to bid the game in NT instead of looking for the spades|pg||
nt|jbgood: 3 teams go to the A Swiss - and the others to B|pg||
nt|jbgood: :)|pg||
nt|jbgood: even from a kib: hunc est dimostrandum:)|pg||
pc|c9|nt|davpro: 9 tricks in NT here|pg||
nt|granguru:  QUOD ERAT DEMONSTRANDUM|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|szalay:  what wd u say as west? i feel it normal 1n|pg||
nt|kirp:  lovely fit here, good system when pard has to play the hand|pg||
pc|cK|nt|szalay:  good lead:)|pg||
nt|athene: this match does illustrate the "game every hand" philosophy - most deals at least one pair is in game, and when one side bid game and the other didn't, the aggressive action ...|pg||
nt|athene: usually gained|pg||
nt|roswolf: @CQ followed by a diamond switch is possible|pg||
pc|c4|pg||
nt|bridge_one: 4@D great choice by Versace|pg||
nt|roswolf: 2@S seemed to be too optimistic with no fit for pard's suit|pg||
nt|roswolf: ot @CJ:)|pg||
nt|jfaria:  $1h is a real chalenge :)|pg||
nt|jbgood: tu kibs - you are truly a learned audience:)|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|athene: 31 imps so far for people in game when other room played partscore|pg||
nt|szalay:  btw support X instead of 2C is queationable with so nice C suit|pg||
nt|athene: many play support double is obligatory|pg||
nt|roswolf: I CERTAINLY DO|pg||
nt|athene: even with xxx and AKQJ10xx :)|pg||
nt|szalay:  we opened cause we have so nice C suit|pg||
nt|szalay:  I said only: questionable, may be I wd XX myself|pg||
nt|athene: nunes knows if he wins this he doesn't have much chance|pg||
nt|jfaria:  4@h I mean|pg||
nt|danilo1: why 2NT alerted ... it just shows what he has :) ... 3-card @C support, some Hcp, BAL hand - and @S stop|pg||
pc|c8|nt|runnerup: perhaps even he didnt expect mojor Q eens to table |pg||
nt|roswolf: really|pg||
nt|runnerup: 3nt not makeable i think so -entryes dead|pg||
nt|kirp:  score is 36-22 for NS, this a good pickup for EW and match is not over|pg||
pc|c5|nt|athene: but ducking could lead to even more down of course|pg||
pc|cA|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d8|pc|dQ|nt|roswolf: really!?|pg||
nt|szalay:  btw its the correct line if @Cs are 5-3|pg||
nt|athene: he has 8 tricks so he wants north to cash out his clubs - hoping he just loses four tricks and then has a spade-diamond squeeze|pg||
pc|dA|pg||
nt|jbgood: i guess they play 2@c as game force - but not sure. if so, E may have regretted his pass, 3 nt always on|pg||
nt|MolvaM: 4s showed fit+limit hand|pg||
nt|roswolf: this looks -1|pg||
nt|glen: if you just alert only natural, you cut down on the number of alerts|pg||
nt|jfaria:  Lauria must decide between @d and @s |pg||
nt|glen: @d ace now, and with nothing better to do, then the @C J?|pg||
nt|jfaria:  Versace I mean |pg||
nt|jbgood: (and I will never try Latin again, apart from Volvo and Vademecum:))|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s8|pc|s3|nt|szalay:  and try for D-S squeeze|pg||
pc|s2|pg||
nt|roswolf: maybe -2|pg||
nt|roswolf: obviously west thought 1@C was short ish|pg||
pc|s5|nt|bagman: Even with the bad club break, declarer has 11 tricks losing only the two aces and scoring well in the pairs|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|kirp:  sorry 36-23|pg||
pc|sK|nt|bagman: sry, the spades break also badly.... |pg||
pc|s4|pg||
nt|jbgood: perhaps E just took a shot with his meager values|pg||
pc|c7|pc|h8|nt|bagman: so declarer has only the same 10 tricks as those who play in spades|pg||
pc|h9|pc|c2|pg||
nt|kirp:  down 2 lookslke|pg||
nt|jbgood: 27 teams from A and 5 from B go to the KO stage - no c/o|pg||
pc|s9|pc|sQ|pc|s6|nt|danilo1: if @DA cashed (far away from obvious), than depends how serious Versace will take 2NT bid by South|pg||
pc|s7|pg||
pc|hA|nt|glen: in another match, the @D was ducked as well|pg||
pc|h7|pc|h5|pc|h3|pg||
pc|c3|nt|roswolf: dummy is really le mort now|pg||
pc|c6|pc|hT|pc|hK|pg||
nt|bagman: still scoring well, though|pg||
mc|7|nt|jbgood: Running scores: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswrunda6.html|pg||
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qx|o10|st||md|4ST82HQT8753D7CK98,SQ7HJ92DAT9652CA5,SA9653H6DQJ4CQJ64,SKJ4HAK4DK83CT732|sv|b|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|rcerreto: an hypothetical @c lead would put at risk 3NT|pg||
pc|s3|nt|rcerreto: a normal @s lead does not|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sT|pc|sQ|pg||
pc|d2|pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|d7|pg||
pc|d3|pc|h3|pc|d9|pc|dQ|pg||
nt|rcerreto: next and final swiss round at 6PM CET|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c2|nt|rcerreto: thanks to our operator, to our fellow commentators and to specs of course|pg||
nt|marlowepi: great job agan by Joanna|pg||
pc|c8|pc|c5|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c3|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d8|pc|h5|pg||
pc|dT|pc|s5|pc|sJ|pc|s2|pg||
pc|d6|pc|s6|pc|c7|pc|h7|pg||
pc|d5|pc|s9|pc|cT|pc|s8|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h6|pc|hA|pc|h8|pg||
pc|hK|pc|hT|pc|h9|pc|cJ|pg||
pc|h4|pc|hQ|pc|hJ|pc|sA|pg||
pc|c9|pc|s7|pc|cQ|pc|sK|pg||
nt|vbman: bye all|pg||
pg||
qx|c10|st||md|4ST82HQT8753D7CK98,SQ7HJ92DAT9652CA5,SA9653H6DQJ4CQJ64,SKJ4HAK4DK83CT732|sv|b|nt|jbgood: last one in the round robin |pg||
nt|jbgood: and cards lie badly for EW|pg||
nt|roswolf: We are now on the last board of the set. Thanks to our operator - Great Job! Our appreciation to all the organisers for ensuring that this fine event is brought to BBO vugraph. ...|pg||
nt|roswolf: Thanks too to my very learned fellow commentators Murat and Peter  for their company and perceptive comments and to our specs whose contributions keep us on our toes.|pg||
nt|MolvaM: ok last board of the match|pg||
nt|MolvaM: next match to start in 29 minutes|pg||
nt|roswolf: We are now on the last board of the set. Thanks to our operator - Great Job! Our appreciation to all the organisers for ensuring that this fine event is brought to BBO vugraph. ...|pg||
nt|roswolf: Thanks too to my very learned fellow commentators Murat and John for their company and perceptive comments and to our specs whose contributions keep us on our toes.|pg||
nt|szalay:  btw D-S squeeze is very unlikely|pg||
nt|roswolf: sorry dont agree|pg||
nt|szalay:  to be honest|pg||
nt|jfaria:  ducking @d helped, no need to choose between @s and @d|pg||
nt|danilo1: to note excellent play by Forrester, @D2 and not 10 ... Gold should not duck|pg||
nt|runnerup: some result here|pg||
nt|jbgood: c/o = carry over|pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|mb|3N|nt|roswolf: We are now on the last board of the set. Thanks to our operator, Ilya - Great Job! Our appreciation to all the organisers for ensuring that this fine event is brought to BBO ...|pg||
nt|roswolf: vugraph. Thanks too to my very learned fellow commentators Gyorgy and Bill for their company and perceptive comments and to our specs whose contributions keep us on our toes.|pg||
mb|p|nt|kirp:  looks like NS in OR have a huge result, so Angelini may yet win this match,as it 36-30 right now|pg||
mb|p|nt|MolvaM: now 28 :)|pg||
mb|p|pc|h7|nt|bagman: EW can make here 10 tricks in NT on a club lead 11 tricks otherwise|pg||
nt|MolvaM: 5 more matches will be played tomorrow and then 27 teams from group A, and 5 teams from group B will proceed to the knockouts|pg||
nt|athene: Fantunes are sort of forced to play weak notrump as a consequence of the rest of their system|pg||
nt|kirp:  both these teams look to qualify i think|pg||
pc|h9|nt|szalay:  if u know your pd is so weak for weak NT u wd pass|pg||
nt|szalay:  some players have this "magic talent", others not|pg||
nt|roswolf: if they reach 4@S now north will have all the info he needs to axe|pg||
nt|kirp:  this does look like 10 trix|pg||
pc|h6|nt|davpro: What have I missed in the bidding?|pg||
nt|MolvaM: tomorrow we start at 10.00 hrs CET|pg||
nt|roswolf: these 2 teams will surely be in contention|pg||
pc|h4|pg||
nt|szalay:  this partnership has this "talent"|pg||
nt|roswolf: east has heard the warning bell|pg||
nt|athene: east simply discounted his @CQ on the bidding, so he is left with a nine-count|pg||
nt|roswolf: i think that was fine judgment|pg||
nt|szalay:  as I watched many times: they r frequently agressive when pd has good hand, and passive when has bad one...we call it: "magican"|pg||
pc|d2|nt|roswolf: :)|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|dK|nt|pelu: only 8 trick|pg||
nt|MolvaM: good lead|pg||
pc|d7|pg||
nt|bagman: E bid 3NT to show the spade stopper in case W was interested in that; If W had a huge @H raise, he would not pass 3NT|pg||
nt|davpro: W probably showed a M?|pg||
nt|davpro: 2@d balanced hand , 3@c a major, 4@d ask major  (according to a kib)|pg||
nt|jbgood: probably|pg||
nt|roswolf: a little optimistic but a fair shot|pg||
nt|glen: 3@S asks are you italian, 4@S=yes|pg||
nt|kirp:  4th best lead, nothing better to sooth the soul|pg||
pc|d3|nt|glen: this allows non-italians to play the partscore|pg||
nt|granguru:  with this trick Angelini made his contract|pg||
pc|h3|nt|pelu: @S-lead would have given the 9. trick|pg||
nt|MolvaM: normal lead actually but sometimes people dont like to lead from 5 small minors and choose a major|pg||
pc|d5|pc|dQ|pg||
nt|jbgood: the curse of underleading aces|pg||
nt|davpro: :)|pg||
nt|jbgood: but still down|pg||
nt|glen: unfriendly @Ds here|pg||
nt|granguru:  if N plays @S Anelini wins the match|pg||
nt|granguru:  If n plays @C is it a tie|pg||
nt|granguru:  @h3 suit pref signal for @C|pg||
nt|jbgood: he has 2 black suits - a 50 % ? either this or that...:)|pg||
pc|s5|nt|kirp:  know pard has cards in @Hs, cant have enuff in @Ss to run the suit|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s8|nt|pelu: but the good old rule 4. best in yout longest suit :) - and here East has indicatet 4 card @s|pg||
nt|MolvaM: right peter :)|pg||
nt|glen: will doom this|pg||
pc|sQ|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d4|nt|MolvaM: specs tell me board 17 was doubled in other room|pg||
pc|d8|nt|bagman: Declarer is going to run the diamonds hoping for too many heart discards|pg||
pc|h5|pg||
nt|MolvaM: if thats the case 5 imps more could go to monaco-Z |pg||
nt|roswolf: restart in 15-20mins|pg||
pc|sK|nt|runnerup: killing lead |pg||
nt|MolvaM: well we shall see|pg||
nt|roswolf: hmm the juniors have been brushed aside|pg||
nt|runnerup: yes so close match 36-39 probably -alot off interesting boards tx all bye|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s7|nt|danilo1: obvious @S |pg||
pc|sA|pg||
nt|davpro: Does S know who has got the @d 4?|pg||
nt|kirp:  Angelini wins by 2 imps I think|pg||
pc|c4|nt|MolvaM: spade switch was needed|pg||
pc|c2|nt|roswolf: scheduled re-start in 22mins approx from now|pg||
nt|pelu: no X when I see the bidding in OR (direct on the tabler)|pg||
nt|athene: heart to the ace and diamond up looks plausible|pg||
nt|kirp:  thx all, |pg||
pc|c8|nt|roswolf: for results http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswrunda3.html|pg||
pc|cA|pg||
nt|athene: the idea is you just want to make sure of two heart tricks and if the finesses loses you might not even get two|pg||
nt|szalay:  btw first 27 from swiss A, first 5 from swiss B go to KO|pg||
nt|athene: but losing finesse doesn't matter here anyway with the nice breaks in the red suits|pg||
nt|szalay:  and first 8 has the right to choose opps from 9-32|pg||
nt|jbgood: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswrunda6.html for late arrived kibs|pg||
mc|11|nt|jbgood: tu all - also for your Latin lessons! bye|pg||
nt|granguru:  bye and ORA PRO NOBIS|pg||
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