vg|C EC 2011 Open Teams Swiss _,5_7,I,21,30,Israel Mongos,0,Monaco Z,0| rs|5DE=,5DW=,4SSx-1,3SS=,2DS-1,1NN=,3SNx-2,3NE=,3DS=,3HE=,4HE+1,1SE+3,2CWx-3,1HWx-4,3NS-2,4HN-1,4HN-2,3NW-3,4SN=,4SS=| pn|Israeli,Zimmermann,Padon,Multon,Zmudzinski,Bareket,Balicki,Lengy|pg|| qx|o21|st||md|3SJ63HJ543DT9CA873,S82HKDAJ8543CJ954,SQT975HAQ9762DCT6,SAK4HT8DKQ762CKQ2|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1D|nt|sharkey: Hi Tihan, Michal & everyone|pg|| mb|p|nt|vugraphplf: Hello there :)|pg|| mb|3C!|an|5!D|nt|sharkey: This is the 5th match in this Swiss session|pg|| nt|tihana: tight pass by N|pg|| mb|3D!|an|Majors|mb|3S|an|!S stoper|nt|sharkey: 3@C fit showing jump|pg|| nt|henryb: I think opening the N hand is wrong: you haven't the strength to open 1@h and rebid @s, and opening 1@s will often lead to playing the wrong suit|pg|| nt|sharkey: 5@D best |pg|| mb|p|mb|5D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|sharkey: 3 NT by W wud make on low @H lead only....|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|hT|pg|| nt|henryb: Multon did well opening 1D and not 1N -- which is surely the more common choice|pg|| pc|sT|mc|11|pg|| qx|c21|st||md|3SJ63HJ543DT9CA873,S82HKDAJ8543CJ954,SQT975HAQ9762DCT6,SAK4HT8DKQ762CKQ2|sv|n|nt|Vugraphzfb: But she may be getting a little tired :)|pg|| nt|henryb: have you taken a session off, Jan?|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: Weichsel asks "what's your opening bid style?" B & R: "light - we open most 11's and some 10's. Weichsel: "you open balanced 11?" "some, not all"|pg|| nt|vugraphpl4: hello, they are in the middle of a board, we will skip after they finish|pg|| nt|stc: good morning|pg|| nt|hawe45: Morning|pg|| nt|hawe45: Looks like one down...|pg|| nt|baardolav: Hello all|pg|| nt|blum1956: hi all|pg|| mb|1S|nt|ntmon: this match brings 5th and 7th team in actual standings|pg|| mb|1N|nt|ppiglett: Hello all|pg|| nt|kista: Hi all|pg|| nt|danilo1: Hi all|pg|| nt|ballebodk: hi all & welcome|pg|| mb|2S|nt|ntmon: assuming both pairs use Polish club as a base system|pg|| nt|baardolav: Second session, 14 boards|pg|| nt|kirp: Hello y'all|pg|| nt|Walddk7: Welcome Martin and Danilo|pg|| mb|3N|nt|kit: hi everybody|pg|| nt|hajru: Morning all|pg|| nt|andreasw: hi all|pg|| nt|riccho: Hello everyone; hope we see an exciting eound here :)|pg|| nt|riccho: round |pg|| nt|danilo1: Hi all|pg|| nt|gites: Hello|pg|| nt|odysseus69: good moring to everyone who gives up the chance of a lazy Sunday to watch what should be some good bridge|pg|| mb|4H|nt|henryb: Hi Kit|pg|| mb|p|nt|kit: Boyd chose to make light response|pg|| nt|baardolav: Hey Andreas|pg|| nt|yke: hi all|pg|| mb|p|nt|kit: Double is support double|pg|| nt|hawe45: ... - not now|pg|| nt|stc: Most E will open 2@s, giving the good lead|pg|| nt|hajru: Welcome to the quarter finals of the european mixed|pg|| nt|Walddk1: Round of 32 rather|pg|| nt|andreasw: hi Baard:-)|pg|| nt|stc: good morning|pg|| nt|ballebodk: this is practical bridge - even if a heart lead can defeat 3 nt pard will never find it. |pg|| mb|5D|nt|tihana: hi everyone, fast start!|pg|| nt|ntmon: welcome to last set of Swiss stage of Mixed Teams, Euro 2011, Poznan|pg|| nt|Walddk7: also welcome to Yuval|pg|| nt|kirp: 3N works here if you can guess the @D layout|pg|| nt|odysseus69: ev eryone now bids at every excuse|pg|| mb|p|nt|henryb: and pass is "I don't have much"|pg|| nt|ntmon: X show 15+ with @c|pg|| nt|Walddk7: Welcome to Markku Pekkinen|pg|| nt|ntmon: N believes in 7 @C quick tricks, an Ace and trick in dummy for her free bid|pg|| nt|runnerup: hi all|pg|| nt|ntmon: hi Markku|pg|| nt|tihana: hi everybody!|pg|| nt|ntmon: 5th and 6th team of actual standings meet here|pg|| nt|vugraphpl4: http://b.poznan2011.pl/mxt/swleaderb.html|pg|| nt|ntmon: hi everyone|pg|| nt|ntmon: quiet board for starter|pg|| nt|Walddk1: 2 segments o 14 boards|pg|| nt|ppiglett: The mandatory trump lead|pg|| nt|yuval10: hello all :) Back from Poznan just 3 hours ago, was a wonderful time|pg|| nt|kista: @h lead may give a clue to drop the stiff @dK |pg|| nt|kirp: After @Hs are cashed, it should be easy|pg|| mb|p|nt|yke: do you all agree with the 1@H opening?|pg|| nt|yke: sorry 1@S opening|pg|| mb|p|nt|kit: 3NT cold -- they should get there -- probably 3@H from Lair, 3NT from Weishel|pg|| nt|kit: 3@C conservative -- now Weichsel has a problem|pg|| nt|henryb: Lair has a problem|pg|| nt|henryb: I would have tried 2N as Weichsel|pg|| nt|kit: sorry, had that backwards -- missed a bid|pg|| nt|kit: I agree Henry, Weichsel could have tried 2NT|pg|| nt|henryb: we are all sleepy: earlier Kerri Sanborn tried to analyze a hand played counter-clockwise|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: That would be a new sort of bridge, wouldn't it? Counter-clockwise play - maybe clockwise on even numbered boards and counter-clockwise on odd?|pg|| nt|baardolav: The bidding is near the limits now all ways and ended in 3@d NS|pg|| nt|mamos: rehi|pg|| nt|kirp: hi everyone, looks like a simle 3N to make|pg|| nt|odysseus69: 2spades now a lucky make and small gain for Netherlands whose teams are all coloured|pg|| nt|ballebodk: with the @s opening - yes i will also do that - i agree if it to be dummy in 3 nt its no sure that i have meade the rigth thing :)|pg|| pc|hA|nt|runnerup: if you guess hearts 5 @d makes ew but difficult to bid|pg|| nt|MarekW: http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg|| nt|snorre: Hi all and welcome to 2nd RR, EU Poznan|pg|| nt|danilo1: surprised Cezary did not try 3NT |pg|| nt|eamongall: East West are good enough to be known in many places as simply Z&B |pg|| nt|danilo1: that would be down since South has nat @H lead|pg|| pc|h8|nt|kit: Auction started exactly same way, but South bid 2NT and cold game was reached|pg|| nt|jaapfr: gm all|pg|| nt|danilo1: A and @C|pg|| pc|h3|nt|andreasw: 5 @d makes but not to bid:-)|pg|| nt|baardolav: Two single red kings onside|pg|| pc|hK|pg|| nt|riccho: hi everybody; hope to see some exciting boards here|pg|| nt|mamos: a nice easy 3Nt while you all settle down get your drinks organised settle the cat down or whatever|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|runnerup: so this is good save anyway |pg|| nt|ntmon: 3@D showed fit but @CQ seems useless, so no further interest by E|pg|| nt|snorre: Running score all matches: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/orrrunda2.html|pg|| nt|snorre: 1st Round: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/orrleaderb.html|pg|| pc|hT|nt|kit: 9 of diamonds discouraging, so likely will find heart shift to hold to 4.|pg|| pc|h4|nt|baardolav: yes 5@d make doubledummy, find the single @d king|pg|| pc|d3|pg|| pc|dA|nt|tihana: nice lead directing 3@C|pg|| nt|jaapfr: 9 tricks for sure|pg|| nt|hajru: This looks like a cold 3NT. |pg|| nt|stc: not yet home|pg|| pc|s5|nt|henryb: The drawback to responding with Boyd's hand is the few hands where it goes 1@d-1@h-2N-P-P-X|pg|| nt|snorre: Hi all and welcome to 1st round Robin EU from Poznan, Poland. |pg|| pc|d2|nt|kit: pretty rare to get doubled in 2NT Henry|pg|| nt|henryb: the advantage is that sometimes the opponents miss a game|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: Weichsel went to the bathroom while he was dummy so we're now waiting for him |pg|| nt|henryb: There was a creative player in NY by the name of Larry Edwards who believed strongly that the auctions 2N-P-P and 1X-1Y-2N-P-P should always be doubled|pg|| nt|baardolav: 3@d should make easaly, prob +1|pg|| nt|riccho: in the first session only the last three boards from team "Zimmermann" prevented them from being far behind|pg|| nt|danilo1: @C to qQ and @D ... promote 2 trump trick for def|pg|| pc|d9|pg|| nt|hajru: Is east mrs. Duboin? |pg|| nt|vugraphpl4: we need to shut down|pg|| nt|vugraphpl4: we will back in the moment|pg|| nt|blum1956: the best lead by Anna Gulevich, the contract must go 1 off|pg|| nt|kirp: this looks like he is playing for overtrix|pg|| mc|11|nt|mamos: hello all|pg|| pg|| qx|o22|st||md|4SAQJT54HJDQ3CK532,SK2H984DAKJ842C64,S963HAQ73D965CQJ7,S87HKT652DT7CAT98|sv|e|nt|sharkey: As Tihana mentioned - some N may open with a 2-suiter bid - may make it more difficult to reach 5@D|pg|| mb|p|mb|1S|nt|tihana: and 4 in a M is likely to make|pg|| mb|2D|nt|tihana: only spade lead beats it, i think|pg|| mb|2S|mb|d!|nt|tihana: 4 hearts i mean|pg|| mb|3C!|nt|sharkey: indeed|pg|| mb|p|mb|3H|nt|sharkey: Not easy to sacrifice over 5@D|pg|| mb|d|nt|sharkey: 3@S max here|pg|| mb|3S|mb|3N|nt|sharkey: Think Moulton's 2nd x thin - shud have more points; perhaps showing 5@H?|pg|| mb|d|mb|4D|nt|vugraphplf: Likely|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|nt|tihana: how convinient padon bid 3hearts, so M could describe hand completely :)|pg|| mb|p|nt|sharkey: 4@D may have made too|pg|| nt|henryb: It should not, but it might be allowed to make|pg|| pc|h4|nt|sharkey: Can't see this makeing - shud be off 1|pg|| nt|sharkey: When you're dealt AKJxxx and no stiff there's shud be a compelling rwason to lead anything but A or K....|pg|| nt|vugraphplf: Got some explainations here from player S: 3@C - 3+@C nat, attempt; 3@H - idk, something in @H|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|hJ|pg|| nt|henryb: The other room had a less active auction leading to 3@s by S|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|sQ|pc|h8|pg|| pc|c2|nt|vugraphplf: Sorry for the undos|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cQ|pc|c8|pg|| nt|henryb: Declarer is trying for 2 down|pg|| nt|vugraphplf: Some of them tend to hide their cards immediately upon playing them|pg|| nt|sharkey: May get a @C ruff now...|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s7|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg|| nt|tihana: but from a trump trick|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sK|pc|s6|pc|s8|pg|| nt|tihana: as the cards lie|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|dT|pc|d3|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d6|pc|d7|pc|dQ|pg|| mc|9|nt|sharkey: Israeli took West's 3 NT bid at value as spurned the finesse|pg|| nt|sharkey: *and spurned|pg|| pg|| qx|c22|st||md|4SAQJT54HJDQ3CK532,SK2H984DAKJ842C64,S963HAQ73D965CQJ7,S87HKT652DT7CAT98|sv|e|nt|henryb: So John Lowenthal set a trap for him once, passing partner's 2N opening with a balanced 11|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: Weichsel is back - asked about the result and then "is 3N cold?" Lair: "yes" Weichsel: "what was your hand" Lair told him|pg|| nt|runnerup: bad slam ,but makes -so should be 4 @h +2|pg|| nt|ntmon: this is Euro 2011, Mixed Teams, Swiss stage, Rd 3|pg|| nt|ntmon: teams corrently 5th and 6th met here |pg|| nt|riccho: a simple board to start with; at the tabel I always appreciate this :)|pg|| nt|snorre: WINCIOREK lost 11-19|pg|| mb|p|nt|ntmon: 1 IMP for Lavazza|pg|| nt|tihana: slamish hands on NS|pg|| nt|tihana: and unfortune break in hs|pg|| nt|Walddk7: Hello Tihana, Jon and Vladimir. Have fun|pg|| nt|mamos: slam making here|pg|| nt|kista: NS have an easy 3NT here|pg|| nt|kirp: Looks like 3N contract|pg|| mb|1S|nt|snorre: The Norwegians play transfers after opening 1@c, so 1@d show 4+ @h's|pg|| nt|yuval10: nice try with the T@d, but for no avail|pg|| nt|eamongall: 5@C by Helness North in the other room |pg|| mb|2D|nt|jbgood: hi|pg|| nt|odysseus69: in OR west led 4th highest spade- BAD idea when he had a sure entry |pg|| mb|2S|nt|kit: Weichsel will have to bid 2@H -- then what?|pg|| nt|henryb: he redoubled for 1230|pg|| nt|kit: Probably 2NT by Lair|pg|| nt|andreasw: here close 28-29|pg|| nt|mamos: big hands for NS|pg|| nt|kastan88: slam time|pg|| nt|mamos: slam in Blacks|pg|| nt|snorre: Dbl= 4+ @s's|pg|| nt|kirp: thx to 2 2 trumps|pg|| nt|eamongall: ooh the auction must have been still in progress as now doubled and made |pg|| mb|d|nt|stc: efficient bid by N|pg|| nt|tihana: even 3 sp is too high|pg|| nt|tihana: hi|pg|| nt|jbgood: unlucky in a way to locate the heart fit|pg|| nt|ntmon: hi Jon|pg|| nt|jbgood: 3@s now?|pg|| nt|tihana: how many tricks in hs make?|pg|| nt|danilo1: interesting board ... 5@C or 3NT NS ... - 5@D or 5@D are at least -3|pg|| mb|3S|mb|p|nt|kit: good decision to pass -- and now E-W may get in trouble|pg|| nt|hawe45: Strange 1 NT - open 1 @D and bid @C|pg|| nt|baardolav: pony 29, calandra 28|pg|| nt|andreasw: 2 nt showing - 15-17?|pg|| nt|baardolav: not sure, they might play strong club too|pg|| nt|mamos: yeah not sure you want to bid it but ten board matches |pg|| nt|mamos: mean to win you need to go for it|pg|| nt|kista: Yes @d10 was good but the hands have been exposed|pg|| nt|yuval10: same auction as the previous board ( save to the X by E )|pg|| nt|danilo1: *or 5@S|pg|| nt|Walddk7: Welcome to CK|pg|| nt|psyck: Hello everyone|pg|| mb|p|nt|henryb: North passed, East bid 2H|pg|| mb|p|nt|henryb: back up Jan|pg|| nt|ntmon: S may feel too strong for a simple splinter|pg|| nt|riccho: NS are two wellknown players from france; both of them winning numerous national and international titles. |pg|| nt|danilo1: Babsch must Dble|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d5|nt|hawe45: @H-shift holds to 10 tricks|pg|| nt|stc: 5@d : -500, so a good save|pg|| nt|hawe45: But only South bid @D...|pg|| nt|stc: :)|pg|| nt|hawe45: Another reason to open1 @D|pg|| nt|stc: 5@s by N is also cold|pg|| nt|hawe45: Not with @H-shift, I told you, morning|pg|| nt|ntmon: actually 12 tricks depends on @D suit, bidding slam is not totally out of question|pg|| nt|ntmon: many will prefer 1NT by N|pg|| nt|ntmon: that would lead to a partscore|pg|| nt|andreasw: kibbitzers told me - they play Polish club|pg|| nt|ppiglett: Flat asa pancake - slam a mile off.|pg|| nt|snorre: Allan Livgaard (south) is captain for the Norwegian ladies Teams|pg|| nt|snorre: sry, this is his brother, henrik|pg|| nt|odysseus69: defence has to be on toes and switch to club|pg|| nt|Walddk7: also welcome to Gad|pg|| nt|viren169: Hello all...|pg|| nt|viren169: Heavy 2@C overcall here...|pg|| nt|psyck: was close whether to bid 2@c or x & bid @c, most would x 1st|pg|| nt|viren169: Most would choose to dble and rebid club to show this type of hand...|pg|| pc|dT|nt|mcarroll: A lot depends on the lead here - a @S would set up discards.|pg|| nt|mcarroll: No hope now|pg|| nt|jaapfr: i miss why W bids 2@S and not 1@S|pg|| nt|andreasw: 10-11 tricks|pg|| nt|baardolav: Sementa hit the best lead|pg|| nt|riccho: EW are not known to me, but hopefully michael can held here ...|pg|| nt|riccho: help; sry I´m a typomaster ... :(|pg|| nt|odysseus69: really automatic|pg|| nt|viren169: Yes I agree|pg|| pc|d3|pg|| nt|ntmon: of course, game has 5 top losers|pg|| nt|andreasw: yes:-)|pg|| nt|snorre: My rule is this one: "I bid all the slams that make.."|pg|| nt|kirp: 4@H by S in some partnerships would be Last Train, not Q|pg|| nt|snorre: North must go on with heart-controll... south is unlimited|pg|| nt|ballebodk: a 3 @s bid here is not encouring - but only preempt - if s wanted to invite he had a lot of other possibilites avalible |pg|| pc|c6|nt|kit: Particularly if Lair reopens with a double|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: Better? My connection's been very good here, so I've stopped looking to make sure the passes register |pg|| nt|kit: This will not be pretty, that's for sure|pg|| nt|stc: yes, u r right|pg|| pc|cJ|nt|Vugraphzfb: Robinson asks about signals: "standard but odd/even first discard"|pg|| nt|ntmon: 3NT non-serious?|pg|| nt|snorre: on other hand: kxx i worst holding. pd dont need to have Q|pg|| nt|kista: 11 tricks|pg|| nt|psyck: some tables took the unfortunate view of doubling twice with N's hand & ended in 4@h, more normal to x & bid @c which would lead to 5@c too|pg|| pc|cA|nt|hawe45: Over - but West might even be single @H...|pg|| nt|jbgood: looks like it |pg|| nt|snorre: Great bidding by NS...|pg|| nt|kirp: thats why Last Train was invented, to show extras|pg|| nt|yuval10: in the OR declarer misguessed the @d and gave def. the oppertunity to defeat the contract|pg|| nt|yuval10: they didn't take advantage of it|pg|| pc|c3|pg|| nt|ppiglett: Expect a diamond lead - J9xx usually give a trick in this situation|pg|| nt|mamos: not bid in OR we see|pg|| nt|danilo1: Linderman on test on 5@S ... well done|pg|| pc|d7|nt|kit: cashing ace of hearts seems clear|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: maybe not that clear?|pg|| nt|henryb: I think declarer can emerge with 6 tricks|pg|| nt|ntmon: N shows 18+ range, S might be interested|pg|| nt|jaapfr: if W shows only 4 card @S then why E 4@S:)?|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|tihana: Wild Griffins are on 5th place now, Jacob on 7th|pg|| pc|dK|nt|ntmon: there are variations of 2@D enquiry, some of them showing 4M5m - then bidding slam would be easier|pg|| nt|jbgood: of course 6@h is a good slam - only going down on a foul trump split|pg|| pc|d6|pg|| pc|dJ|nt|jcomyn: oh a change|pg|| pc|d9|nt|kit: 6 looks easy -- it is 7 I'm wondering about|pg|| nt|danilo1: Good morning all|pg|| nt|jcomyn: morning danilo|pg|| nt|mareczek: Hallo everybody from Poznan|pg|| nt|jaapfr: am I in the right room:)?|pg|| nt|ballebodk: tx to the 2-2 in @s - declarer should come home with 9 tricks|pg|| pc|h6|nt|ntmon: 3NT non-serious says: i am not that strong for taking initiative, but i don't want rob you of space for investigation|pg|| nt|tihana: Yan is serious :)|pg|| nt|ntmon: taking initiative :)|pg|| nt|jbgood: he thought he could beat 6 NT too|pg|| nt|jbgood: not unreasonable|pg|| pc|s5|pg|| nt|yke: I think 3@S is not that strong but balicki is entitled to bid 4@S|pg|| nt|ballebodk: now i dont now their style/system but in my world i could have bid 3 @d in N with 3-card @s support and 8-11 - if this 3-3-3-4 is good enough for that is an other matter :) |pg|| pc|hJ|nt|kirp: N overbid slightly with 3@S jump and then pulled back|pg|| pc|h4|nt|henryb: can I worry about eight?|pg|| nt|yuval10: talking about board 21 of course|pg|| nt|runnerup: hi all|pg|| nt|ianmcc: sorry I'm late hi all|pg|| nt|viren169: Hi|pg|| nt|viren169: Never too late!|pg|| pc|hA|nt|jcomyn: dunno are u|pg|| nt|danilo1: :)|pg|| pc|h2|pg|| pc|s3|nt|psyck: Hi Gad, Markku, & Ian|pg|| pc|s7|nt|mcarroll: 2 imp gain for Rossard here and the lead changes hands|pg|| nt|riccho: thr lead made the contract comfortable for declarer|pg|| nt|mamos: one would expect a flat board at this level|pg|| nt|snorre: Excellent played by Mr. Versace.. South has to be careful now...|pg|| nt|snorre: I have seen MANY mistakes by using last train. Slam and opp starts with AK. Only Exclusion Blackwood has made worse disasters|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|snorre: :)|pg|| pc|sK|pg|| nt|yke: zmud thinking what to do when clubs and spades don't break|pg|| pc|h9|nt|baardolav: nothing more now|pg|| nt|danilo1: small @D after @HQ|pg|| nt|danilo1: :)|pg|| pc|h3|nt|runnerup: hi |pg|| pc|h5|nt|Walddk7: Welcome to Markku Pekkinen|pg|| nt|ntmon: Yan on money|pg|| nt|jbgood: the light interference next door seems to have made it impossible for NS to find out they wer cold for slam on a decent layout...|pg|| nt|ppiglett: indeed|pg|| pc|s4|pg|| nt|runnerup: hi all|pg|| nt|inonli: he has 2 chances 1 is trump break 2nd @c+@h squeeze|pg|| pc|sA|nt|jaapfr: cu:)|pg|| pc|s2|nt|snorre: he was...:)|pg|| pc|s6|nt|runnerup: you need diamonds without loosers and @h 3-2 mainly like it is to make slam so slam is not good,but make ok|pg|| nt|andreasw: nope 11..|pg|| pc|s8|pg|| nt|danilo1: wd all ... nice to watch|pg|| mc|9|nt|yke: or short spades and short clubs on the same hand|pg|| pg|| qx|o23|st||md|1SK754HA86DA874CQ9,S98632HTDKJ3CK874,SAJHJ732DQT92C532,SQTHKQ954D65CAJT6|sv|b|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|sharkey: Part score here...|pg|| mb|2C!|mb|p|nt|tihana: that is strange|pg|| mb|2D!|mb|p|mb|p|nt|tihana: some puppet|pg|| nt|sharkey: 2@C forces 2@D|pg|| nt|henryb: probably a relay to 2@d|pg|| nt|tihana: i see|pg|| mb|p|nt|sharkey: xyz |pg|| nt|henryb: Opener could bid more with xtra values|pg|| pc|hT|nt|sharkey: EW possibly cud make 2@S or 3@C and 8 tricks shud be a good NS score|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|hA|pg|| nt|tihana: needs a lot of guessing (Q@C, diamonds)|pg|| nt|henryb: Except I see 6 defensive tricks|pg|| nt|sharkey: Not easy for EW to get into the bidding though |pg|| nt|tihana: lol|pg|| pc|h6|nt|tihana: you are not very optimistic HB|pg|| nt|tihana: :)|pg|| pc|c8|nt|henryb: 2@c, 2@h and 2@d|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h9|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d4|pc|dK|pc|d2|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d9|pc|d6|nt|henryb: that just collapsed one of them|pg|| pc|d7|pg|| nt|vugraphplf: E accidentally lost a 4@H now|pg|| nt|vugraphplf: i mean, @H4|pg|| nt|henryb: except decarer only has 7 winners|pg|| nt|vugraphplf: lying on the table|pg|| nt|tihana: who, @H4 or east?|pg|| nt|sharkey: yes - possible penalty card..|pg|| pc|sA|pc|sT|pc|s4|pc|s2|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sQ|nt|henryb: minor? Director call?|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s3|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s6|pc|dT|pc|h4|pg|| nt|vugraphplf: Minor. No director called, though.|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c6|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|hK|pc|d8|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|c23|st||md|1SK754HA86DA874CQ9,S98632HTDKJ3CK874,SAJHJ732DQT92C532,SQTHKQ954D65CAJT6|sv|b|nt|kit: I think this is barely an opening bid for Boyd|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: Lair: "there must have been a better way to do that" Weichsel: "lead A of @hs earlier" Robinson: "if you lead it earlier, I'll probably make another trick - you can't ruff in with ...|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: it"|pg|| nt|mcarroll: Hi all|pg|| nt|tihana: y, and unfort you cant run to 6d from 6h|pg|| nt|jbgood: running scores: http://b.poznan2011.pl/mxt/swrunda5.html|pg|| nt|jcomyn: not a good contract obviously hands too flat|pg|| nt|andreasw: 30-28 now|pg|| nt|mamos: wel done all|pg|| nt|snorre: Open Teams Round Robin have both excellent teams, "normal" ones and teams where you and I can join... |pg|| nt|kirp: agree with you somewhat|pg|| nt|stc: very lucky decision to lert 4@h play, when you can even make 4@s on a better layout|pg|| nt|viren169: Looks like 4@H is the limit here|pg|| nt|inonli: right|pg|| mb|1C!|mb|p|nt|hawe45: But in fact, -650 is better for E/W than -620 - then they do´nt think about the 500-sacrifice|pg|| nt|stc: strange things...|pg|| nt|ntmon: perhaps now (@H partscore)|pg|| nt|tihana: 0 scores there, are they playing or what?|pg|| nt|kirp: Actually 3N by S, assuming that is forcing would be better bid|pg|| nt|mamos: but Exclusion errors are usualy more amusing -- lol for others|pg|| nt|kirp: Looks like part score, and defense issue for EW|pg|| nt|kista: A part score for EW..NS may go overboard bidding 3@H|pg|| nt|runnerup: normal 4 @h here -3 games no swings in normal play |pg|| mb|1H|nt|ntmon: as many as 15IMP|pg|| nt|jcomyn: and the now-normal 4-1 break. seems to me these days you have to cater for a 4-1 break and bid accordibly|pg|| nt|snorre: At the end of the Round-robin the first 3 teams from each group will qualify for Swiss A and the other teams for Swiss B|pg|| nt|eamongall: EW in the closed room have suicided into 4@SX after Est doubled in this auction NOW |pg|| mb|p|nt|stc: here NS must open the @Ds quite fast|pg|| nt|danilo1: 4@S may be inetersting ... but what will be really played?|pg|| nt|jcomyn: nver get there|pg|| nt|mamos: so yes you are right snorre the standard will be varied but we have two top class teams here|pg|| nt|danilo1: I like 1@H third hand|pg|| nt|eamongall: lets see what balicki does |pg|| nt|ianmcc: 4@h should be OK|pg|| mb|1S|nt|hawe45: Or play themselves|pg|| nt|riccho: interesting to see, that at bd1 N opened with 1@H. An opening that even in a limited system would be hardly everybodies choice|pg|| nt|riccho: this contract is difficult to beat (but not impossible)|pg|| mb|p|nt|kit: Question is how Lair should raise here|pg|| nt|runnerup: this is 4 @s with @h guess once again ,but first you have to bid it|pg|| nt|andreasw: 4@s now for sure|pg|| nt|ppiglett: Very Baggy 4S bid with nine trick in the hand. |pg|| nt|riccho: yes but dummy has no effective trick at all|pg|| nt|kirp: maybe not anymore, EW could get into trouble|pg|| mb|1N|nt|henryb: why wouldn't Lair raise right away?|pg|| nt|odysseus69: dare i venture "flat board"|pg|| mb|p|nt|kit: this makes more sense|pg|| nt|henryb: would 2@c be forcing here?|pg|| nt|mcarroll: EW may protect and get to a @S patrtscore?|pg|| nt|danilo1: 2@C as expected ... anyone for Dbling minors as North?|pg|| nt|jcomyn: double again|pg|| nt|chessmaste: 1@S - for the lead partner|pg|| nt|baardolav: Very light overbids|pg|| nt|andreasw: yes:-)|pg|| nt|baardolav: Not my style... |pg|| nt|andreasw: lol|pg|| nt|baardolav: need to finesse the @d Q to make|pg|| nt|baardolav: and get rid of one club from the closed hand|pg|| mb|p|nt|kit: so will probably reach the doomed 4@S contract|pg|| nt|henryb: sorry, I missed the correction|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: Weichsel writes that 2@h = limit raise and Boyd wrote something back that isn't where I can read it|pg|| nt|riccho: @s 10 would be a nice-to-have-card at dummy|pg|| nt|snorre: I know these Norwegians. They are good, but they dont play at highest level in Noway..|pg|| nt|snorre: 4@s can maybe win here, but normal to stop in partscore...|pg|| nt|kirp: keep it simple, is a good rule for Balckwood|pg|| nt|kista: Yes EW may be overboard|pg|| nt|psyck: yes 5@h (with @s ruff), 1@s & 2 in minors likely|pg|| nt|inonli: polish @c makes ot tough to find 2@d contract|pg|| nt|inonli: it|pg|| mb|p|nt|ntmon: 2@S nat game-forcing|pg|| nt|danilo1: he passed, so maybe best action after pd's Rdble is to Dble ... even if made, 2m is not bad|pg|| nt|yke: 1@C any 12-14 NT, 15+ clubs or 18+|pg|| pc|h5|nt|runnerup: looks like partscore can be made both direction perhaps |pg|| nt|jbgood: one thing I know for sure - NS will not be bothered by the last board|pg|| nt|baardolav: Calandra have some thoughts about this... Spade need to be 2-2 or H single|pg|| nt|kirp: need to lead a club i think|pg|| nt|yke: 1@H 8+|pg|| nt|inonli: not that it changes very much here both contracts very tough|pg|| nt|inonli: needs a @d guess|pg|| pc|h6|nt|stc: can he guess the K@c ?|pg|| nt|hawe45: After the bidding, he might - if East shows the @D Ace|pg|| nt|stc: yes, but he will play trump before @d|pg|| nt|ntmon: in my book X over 2@D would be T/O for @H but hand not strong enough|pg|| nt|jbgood: (neither will EW:))|pg|| nt|danilo1: 3@S at least North|pg|| nt|jcomyn: and 4 from s|pg|| nt|yuval10: he's down either way|pg|| nt|kirp: maybe the 9@Ds will score|pg|| pc|hT|nt|kit: Of course, it isn't 100$ clear for Boyd to continue diamonds when he leads the ace|pg|| nt|henryb: If 2N was natural, I would think that ten fifth of opener's suit would be a turnoff|pg|| nt|hawe45: Sure|pg|| nt|snorre: If south goes for games with these hands, they will go down in numbers of contracts...|pg|| nt|snorre: end with 9 tricks, I think|pg|| nt|viren169: 10 tricks will be the limit|pg|| nt|viren169: with the trumps not breaking|pg|| nt|inonli: where double finnese is true alternative|pg|| pc|hJ|pg|| nt|kit: I can picture hands where heart shift necessary. But bidding might help him.|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: Lair: "good luck"|pg|| nt|kit: They do play udca, so 6 won't be readable|pg|| nt|runnerup: yes in club system no big problems to bid,but natural not so easy |pg|| nt|ntmon: 4@S is good contract, will require get @H right|pg|| nt|odysseus69: 3H is retransfer|pg|| nt|stc: @d is missing for a decent slam|pg|| nt|ballebodk: thats really not a hand to lead from - and - when everything can be right or wrong then lead from longest is normally best|pg|| pc|d2|nt|riccho: Bd2: 4@s would have been a fairly good contract; I would expect the other tabel to be in 4@s|pg|| nt|odysseus69: 3C was super accept|pg|| nt|stc: I mean the 9@D|pg|| pc|d5|nt|eamongall: I am corrected ... Balicki ... I accidently slipped caps lock key |pg|| pc|dA|nt|kit: Moment of truth right now|pg|| pc|d3|pg|| nt|jcomyn: aggressive|pg|| nt|jcomyn: not a good lead|pg|| nt|danilo1: well, Dble by Guido was expected ... but not sure about the lead|pg|| nt|jcomyn: making now with good guess|pg|| nt|danilo1: I still rather beleieve in down|pg|| nt|jcomyn: why look at it just play J|pg|| nt|danilo1: do not believe she can avoid 2 trump loosers as well as 2 red Aces|pg|| nt|jcomyn: maybe so|pg|| nt|jcomyn: but why the long pause when the j is mandatory|pg|| pc|d4|nt|riccho: anyone has an idea whcih system EW play? |pg|| nt|yuval10: i'd say most probably it will|pg|| nt|kista: 2 down likely... Not a great 2@d overcall|pg|| nt|yuval10: S switched nicely to @d, now a @c from N means -2|pg|| pc|dK|nt|stc: any making becuase of @h 4-2|pg|| nt|stc: anyway|pg|| nt|mcarroll: I agree|pg|| nt|mcarroll: Despite the combined 22 count this is not an easy contract - particularly on this @C lead|pg|| nt|tihana: and go down in both directions :)|pg|| nt|eamongall: Bal is maestro .... says one person :) |pg|| nt|runnerup: dont see any chance to go dwn either -so ====|pg|| pc|d9|nt|tihana: hm|pg|| pc|d6|pg|| nt|mcarroll: so a lose-lose situation :)|pg|| nt|tihana: or win-win for the defence :)|pg|| nt|ppiglett: Carding for n-S very important now.|pg|| nt|inonli: declarer took the right view|pg|| nt|yke: wow, I thought he was likely to misguess the diamonds|pg|| pc|s3|nt|henryb: truth and concequences|pg|| pc|sJ|nt|stc: and @d frienly, 3-3 with the 10 showing up|pg|| nt|baardolav: The first hand opening... have shown K of spade, QJ of club and |pg|| nt|viren169: Declarer could go wrong if they played on clubs and West ducked a spade.|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|kit: he got it right -- key was Weichsel's 2NT call -- would be unlikely with doubleton diamond|pg|| pc|sK|pg|| nt|mcarroll: glass half-full, half empty??|pg|| nt|yke: well the opening lead helped a lot|pg|| pc|d7|nt|baardolav: the @d Q... very well done|pg|| nt|stc: here slam makes if on oponent would have Hx in @d|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dQ|nt|riccho: S ist not allowed to throw a heart|pg|| nt|inonli: maybe when knew KQ@H east side and maybe a @c honour he thought that with k@d he was in the bidding|pg|| pc|h4|pg|| pc|dT|nt|hawe45: East should be 6-2-3-2 now|pg|| nt|andreasw: 10 tricks wd|pg|| nt|riccho: according to some kibs EW play some sort of polish club; 1@c is than a WK NT or medium club or strong any (some play it less than GF) |pg|| nt|blum1956: Ìàõ Êhven played for Russia many times, including the 2004 Olympiad (3th place). His partner (and wife) Anna Gulevich is 36-th rated in the rating-list (which includes men) and has ...|pg|| nt|blum1956: a Russian mixed teams wins to her credit|pg|| nt|blum1956: EW play the "Beriozka" system (based on Polish club) which is rather popular in Russia|pg|| nt|riccho: typical polish style is that the 1NT rebid after the neg. 1@d is a 18-20 BAL type of hand; with 12-14 in polish club they regularly are faking with 1@h or 1@s even with lesse than a 4carder|pg|| nt|yuval10: the Israeli team are the runner up of the previous event in San-Remo ( though Ginossar-Pachtman didn't play there )|pg|| pc|c6|nt|yuval10: after winning the Bronze medal in the last European Championship, thus representing Europe in the upcomming Bermuda Bowl...|pg|| pc|d8|pc|c4|pg|| pc|h2|nt|riccho: so I should have known EW than ... :(|pg|| pc|h9|nt|viren169: should be ok here|pg|| pc|hA|nt|yke: the best way to play the diamond suit is to let the T ride and finnese again if it loose to the jack|pg|| pc|s2|pg|| nt|riccho: Oh she can throw one|pg|| pc|s4|nt|ntmon: surprise|pg|| nt|blum1956: 1@c is weak NT (12-14) or strong (17-18+) any|pg|| nt|danilo1: In open room, East has choosen to Dble 1@H ... after passed pd, I must say that I do not like this Dble|pg|| nt|odysseus69: would still need hearts to behave plus split diamond honours- still not great but unbiddable anyway|pg|| pc|s6|nt|runnerup: so miss guessed -1|pg|| pc|sA|nt|danilo1: West bid 2@C ... so he has 4 ... East who reopened therefore only 2 @C (possible single/double Q) - so @CJ has not been absolute mandatory ... however, good guess|pg|| pc|sT|pg|| mc|7|nt|riccho: so without the medium club stuff in it...|pg|| nt|yke: but you have to consider the whole hand|pg|| pg|| qx|o24|st||md|2SQHKQ632DT3CJ8632,S6HJ9DAKQJ42CAT97,SA975432HA7D65C54,SKJT8HT854D987CKQ|sv|o|mb|1D|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|henryb: 3N easy for E-W and very easy for N to get in trouble|pg|| nt|sharkey: Monaco have taken an 11 IMP lead as N played 1 NT CR on a @H lead|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|tihana: 500?|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c2|nt|henryb: hard to avoid 4 minors and 3@s|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c4|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sQ|pc|s6|pc|sA|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h5|nt|tihana: 300?|pg|| pc|h2|nt|sharkey: Looks like it. 3@S may not be everyone's favorite bid|pg|| pc|h9|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h4|pc|hK|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|sharkey: was 500|pg|| nt|tihana: what was the rush to switch to spK|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d5|pc|h8|pg|| pc|h3|pc|d4|pc|s2|pc|hT|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s8|pc|h6|pc|c9|pg|| mc|7|nt|tihana: he played it so fast like no other option|pg|| nt|sharkey: cant see there was any rush|pg|| pg|| qx|c24|st||md|2SQHKQ632DT3CJ8632,S6HJ9DAKQJ42CAT97,SA975432HA7D65C54,SKJT8HT854D987CKQ|sv|o|nt|henryb: that's why I suggested that maybe 2N should turn Lair off, not on|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: Weichsel: "I could have tried something else" Lair: "did you have 5 spades?" Weichsel: "yeah" Boyd: "3N is down 1 also"|pg|| nt|runnerup: so 200 it was a good desision to pass 1 @h|pg|| nt|ntmon: @h lead is a natural killer, takes away the entry to club tricks|pg|| nt|tihana: 15:15 after two boards|pg|| nt|yuval10: they must be considered one of the favourites for this event|pg|| nt|kista: The @H holding gives comfort for an overcall, but it also indicates a likely misfit . So staying out would have been prudent|pg|| nt|viren169: A bit of excitement here|pg|| nt|runnerup: here is potential -6 @d|pg|| mb|1D|nt|jbgood: so all of a sudden it is all square|pg|| nt|tihana: i loove this rooom|pg|| nt|ballebodk: can EW find 3 nt ?|pg|| nt|inonli: im sure they will|pg|| mb|2S|nt|kit: Weichsel holds the rare AK EMPTY ninth|pg|| nt|jbgood: the comeback was fast and furious|pg|| nt|kirp: 4@H here|pg|| nt|snorre: calm start on this match. An easy 4@h coming up here|pg|| mb|p|nt|henryb: but the doubleton @d is a good sign|pg|| nt|jbgood: E probaply decided to show a major 2 suiter rather than just her spades|pg|| nt|riccho: Oh I c they lowered the req for str 1@c comparing to ploish club than.|pg|| nt|snorre: 3Nt possible to win here. |pg|| nt|mamos: not much excitement so far to be true|pg|| nt|odysseus69: 4h a bit nlucky|pg|| nt|stc: I just wanted to underline how important the spots are(10, even 9), and impossible to investigate|pg|| nt|viren169: N/S has an easy entry over the strong 1@C|pg|| nt|ianmcc: looks as if 6@s breaks if @c led or switched|pg|| mb|p|nt|viren169: 2N = good raise|pg|| nt|psyck: W's pass probably showing around 0-4 hcp|pg|| nt|viren169: Diamonds will get lost in the muddle now...|pg|| nt|yke: not easy|pg|| nt|inonli: east goes for penalty|pg|| nt|yke: 3@D pass 3NNT|pg|| nt|inonli: west has a tough bid now|pg|| mb|3S|nt|tihana: i think both 3n and 5 cl make, yes?|pg|| nt|kirp: W is frisky, it seems|pg|| nt|kirp: 2 or 3@Hs with S ' hand|pg|| nt|yuval10: 2NT must be inv+ and N will decline|pg|| nt|odysseus69: north might sit for 3Sx|pg|| nt|yke: I would not double with the W hand, too much playing strength|pg|| mb|p|nt|snorre: Nice layout for EW...|pg|| nt|viren169: 4@S should end the auction|pg|| nt|inonli: this bid is very optimistic in my view|pg|| mb|3N|nt|stc: NS may make games in both majors with some good guessing|pg|| nt|runnerup: brave 2 ! and + once again to ns|pg|| nt|tihana: @H and m i guess|pg|| nt|jbgood: NS have 29 hcp combined - and EW are already in 3@hs :)|pg|| nt|jcomyn: polish style?|pg|| nt|danilo1: looks like NS playing kind of Polish @C |pg|| nt|andreasw: looks like one down|pg|| nt|blum1956: 1@c starting from good 16|pg|| nt|kirp: ??|pg|| nt|stc: a smart tactical bid 3@s|pg|| nt|odysseus69: excellent 3rd seat action|pg|| nt|runnerup: slam i diffecult now 4@s must be bidden -so that partner cant pass to partscore|pg|| nt|psyck: @c lead or switch will restrict @s contract to 11 tricks|pg|| nt|viren169: North will get will get rewarded for a poor 5@H if they make it!|pg|| nt|inonli: nor i bid 3@s...|pg|| nt|ballebodk: 3@d is that not the same hand without A@c ?|pg|| mb|p|nt|kit: Looked like it would be a dull board, but 4@S was doubled in other room |pg|| nt|ntmon: 1 NT upgraded? but 3NT normal contract|pg|| mb|p|nt|runnerup: this loks like 3nt but even here 14+11 -some pairs might miss this game -clubs all well and dimonds badly .but 9 tricks|pg|| nt|ntmon: due to lucky @C position, 9 tricks ready without needing @D|pg|| nt|ntmon: do we agree with 2@H or prefer negative X passed out?|pg|| nt|stc: will W X all just take the money in silence ?|pg|| nt|viren169: I think I prefer 4@H in the 1st place and pd may take the save|pg|| mb|p|nt|henryb: If you play fantan around the corner, that is a really good suit|pg|| nt|ntmon: 3NT best but North could not know about @H position|pg|| nt|tihana: hmm, auken goes strong|pg|| nt|mcsd: hello all|pg|| nt|yuval10: even though 3@s looks like making with 2@h losers, 1@c and 1@d, it seem like W will get a trump promotion|pg|| nt|kista: 3@s is an easy make|pg|| nt|yuval10: not really|pg|| nt|yke: 3@S wow , thats a bid|pg|| nt|inonli: if they play good bad (and they play)|pg|| nt|inonli: no problem to bid 3m now|pg|| pc|h3|nt|stc: now he will X :)|pg|| nt|inonli: showing a strong hand while 2NT shows the lesser one|pg|| pc|h9|nt|riccho: how comfortable to commentate french players. every bid is cristal clear here |pg|| nt|mamos: never refuse an invitation|pg|| nt|mamos: 3@h for me|pg|| nt|kirp: 11 or 12 trix|pg|| pc|hA|nt|riccho: xcept sometimes... In the first segment there was a 2@hX contract, which succeeded but shouldnt|pg|| nt|mamos: but close|pg|| nt|danilo1: Dble is evidently agreement ... this is my best suit - and nothing more|pg|| nt|odysseus69: I dont know much about this Israeli team but I guess they are young - the 4S bid indicates hopefulness of youth|pg|| pc|h4|pg|| nt|stc: they need at least one good guess in @h@s|pg|| nt|hawe45: If West later shows the @S Ace, East must have the @H Queen|pg|| nt|hawe45: That´s NO guess|pg|| nt|tihana: making 4?|pg|| pc|h7|nt|mcarroll: proving yet again that bridge is a bidder's game|pg|| nt|kirp: thats what you get when you underlead A, no one can figure it out|pg|| pc|h5|nt|jbgood: seems as if NS should stay out of slams this set|pg|| nt|runnerup: ok +2 now|pg|| nt|viren169: the 5th trump is key|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|hawe45: Another @C is correct defence|pg|| nt|hawe45: Why help declarer?|pg|| nt|kista: yes the @s9 gets promoted|pg|| nt|danilo1: * * promisess no values or so .. just showing pd his best spot|pg|| nt|eamongall: ah @D jack coming down |pg|| nt|eamongall: its @HA now or goodbye |pg|| nt|eamongall: Zed hardly gets this one |pg|| nt|eamongall: a good pairs cash says Ian from Belgium |pg|| nt|danilo1: well ... cash @HA as well ... if @S is partners best ... it's now or never|pg|| nt|odysseus69: time for West to double but this is the week of the non penalty double|pg|| nt|stc: I don't understand W's pass|pg|| nt|stc: he may loose a big swing with his pass|pg|| pc|hJ|pg|| nt|inonli: closed hand N in 3@s dbl|pg|| pc|hK|pc|s6|nt|hawe45: Might have killed K-10-x|pg|| nt|snorre: If EW play 15-17NT's, 2NT with 10 is hard.. At most 24 hcp. East liked his Q109 @h's|pg|| pc|d5|pc|hT|pg|| nt|blum1956: which does not help to buy a makeable contract this time))))|pg|| nt|inonli: EW miss def so it will be 3 for the mogngos instead of -3|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|stc: A@s KQ@c and Q@h = 11|pg|| nt|ntmon: going for @D seems percentage action - bad luck |pg|| nt|runnerup: last board was plyed in 2nt inspite off 5-4 in @s but 180 was +6 imps because missguess here in 4 @s|pg|| nt|mcarroll: I prefer the neg X which may be passed out, but it may also lead to 3NT |pg|| nt|ntmon: seems that Auken explained herself the absence of 3NT bid by N as positive signal (no stopper, no vastage) |pg|| pc|c7|nt|riccho: In Bd. 2 I was wrong with my prediction (they reached 4@s but they didnt play it) because EW found the "sacrifice" in 5@h |pg|| nt|riccho: put away the "" from last sentence... |pg|| pc|sA|nt|danilo1: not good guess in @S|pg|| nt|mcsd: 2 @h loosers, 1 @D and @C, loong @d suit bothers me|pg|| nt|kista: after the @h lead|pg|| nt|odysseus69: I am told that we are indeed watching young Israeli players|pg|| pc|s8|pg|| mc|9|nt|stc: not now|pg|| nt|hawe45: There is a rule: Only ONE opponent can have @S Ace...|pg|| nt|runnerup: y a common convention helps to bid if partner doesn't delive that south bid his cards allready |pg|| pg|| qx|o25|st||md|3S76HT3DAQ9843CKT8,SAK93HQ874DJT7CQ2,SQJT52H652DK5CA96,S84HAKJ9D62CJ7543|sv|e|nt|henryb: So Israel gets off the "schneid"|pg|| mb|p|nt|sharkey: at least he shud think and pause for a while before he switched - then we wud know there was a good reason....|pg|| mb|p|mb|3D|nt|tihana: yes!|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s8|pc|s6|pg|| nt|sharkey: So 3 IMP in instead of 3 IMP out on Bd 24 to Israel|pg|| nt|henryb: With @d breaking nicely I see no way for this to go down|pg|| nt|sharkey: @C suit frozen so this shud make I think|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c6|pc|c3|pc|cK|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dT|pc|dK|pc|d2|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d6|pc|dA|nt|tihana: should always make no matter of lead|pg|| pc|d7|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dJ|pc|h2|nt|sharkey: sry - yes|pg|| pc|c4|pg|| pc|s7|nt|henryb: declarer just draws trump and concedes a @s|pg|| nt|tihana: he heard you :)|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s5|pc|s4|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|h3|pg|| pc|hA|pc|hT|pc|h4|pc|h6|pg|| nt|henryb: at the other table they are playing 3@h E-W, which should make|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c25|st||md|3S76HT3DAQ9843CKT8,SAK93HQ874DJT7CQ2,SQJT52H652DK5CA96,S84HAKJ9D62CJ7543|sv|e|nt|henryb: Fantan is a game where you build suits from some start card. You can only play adjacent cards. Around the corner would mean that a suit could be built 3-2-A-K|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: Boyd: "AK empty ninth" |pg|| nt|stc: on 23(5@c) NS never entered the auction !!|pg|| nt|stc: and let EW play 3@s|pg|| nt|ntmon: 3@H made but we feel EW could get out more of the hand|pg|| nt|blum1956: Nord should have taken a spade finesse (he did not know that trumps were 4-1)|pg|| nt|kirp: that should tie or take the lead in the match!|pg|| nt|mamos: over and over again I tell learners to never do it but there is always the temptation and it usually doesn't work|pg|| nt|eamongall: look like a quiet 1NT in the EW now |pg|| nt|viren169: I suspect some will find the slam at other tables|pg|| nt|yke: 2@S was certainly a bit timid, I would have bid 3@S|pg|| mb|p|nt|runnerup: now @h slam|pg|| nt|jcomyn: i dont believe it no 4-1 break|pg|| nt|snorre: partscore @s's for NS...|pg|| mb|p|nt|andreasw: 3 NT?|pg|| nt|Walddk1: Welcome to Pierre Schmidt|pg|| nt|eamongall: sorry NS I mean |pg|| nt|odysseus69: I am told that N orth may be a current world junior champion|pg|| mb|1D|nt|mcsd: i wouldnt open n hand, what do you think|pg|| nt|viren169: A slam to avoid here... |pg|| nt|psyck: they are in 5@hx other room, after W doubled a 5@c bid by S , i would have thought E would bid on instead of doubling once pd showed some life|pg|| nt|inonli: 1d or 3@d south?|pg|| mb|d|nt|mcarroll: Dont think it makes?|pg|| nt|yuval10: normal opening |pg|| nt|runnerup: another game ,this time some potential salm and wildness so something can happen|pg|| nt|viren169: Slam assured to go down now with the 3@D bid|pg|| nt|ianmcc: East did well to get in|pg|| mb|r|nt|kit: Ugly misfit -- will probably get to 3NT, but might arrive in 4@S|pg|| nt|tihana: why not?|pg|| nt|chmitty: bonjour :)|pg|| nt|kista: 3N for NS|pg|| nt|mcsd: im more archaic|pg|| mb|2H|nt|riccho: welcome! |pg|| nt|blum1956: If they try to reach a slam and stop in 5@c that may be in danger|pg|| nt|kista: 4@s also on|pg|| nt|eamongall: they have more points even if EW got NTy hands |pg|| nt|danilo1: Spec suggestion to lead @SJ (and East overtakes and play @H) is only a dream ... would be 13 tricks ... since small @S on J is no option|pg|| nt|viren169: Yes... not so easy for South now...|pg|| nt|psyck: good suit, fav vul, shape, certainly should|pg|| nt|runnerup: 1nt --looks to have many meanings -so south down know ..|pg|| nt|viren169: I suspect N/S will climb to the 5 level now...|pg|| nt|viren169: but still ok with 11 tricks.|pg|| nt|viren169: I prefer pass and find out what the 1N=GF was all about and proceed from thereon |pg|| nt|psyck: dec took a wrong view in @c other room last deal & lost an imp instead of gaining 5|pg|| nt|runnerup: even North thinging how much south has .so they can overbid now|pg|| nt|ianmcc: that 1NT doesn't appeal from this distance|pg|| nt|psyck: well, 1NT may have been the only systemic option|pg|| mb|p|nt|henryb: 6N by N is cold on the lie of the cards|pg|| nt|kit: 3NT by Lair seems clear|pg|| nt|runnerup: par looks like 9 in ! ,but |pg|| nt|ntmon: N/s again off the hook|pg|| nt|mcarroll: Michaels cuebid - promising both Majors, not my style with only an 8 count vulnerable|pg|| nt|andreasw: club lead here|pg|| nt|kirp: y pard|pg|| nt|viren169: 4S cue now and 5@H over the 5@C bid will sort out the 2 diamonds losers |pg|| nt|psyck: but S had a clear 4@c bid|pg|| mb|p|nt|henryb: both minors 3-3, @dK onside, @s suit can't be misguessed if led|pg|| nt|stc: NS will play game here|pg|| nt|runnerup: not so easy to bid ,but now known to be in rigth hand if bid|pg|| nt|mamos: do we know who is thinking?|pg|| nt|vugraphpl4: W|pg|| nt|kirp: no dble no trouble|pg|| nt|viren169: ummmmmmmm|pg|| nt|psyck: 5@h showing lack of @d control|pg|| nt|psyck: so will stop there|pg|| nt|runnerup: min so pas..|pg|| mb|2S|nt|danilo1: Guido will probably not lead @C (beliebve @H)|pg|| nt|mamos: lots of matches have imp scores of 1-0 or 2-1 right now after 4 or so boards|pg|| nt|kirp: except it 100 a trick|pg|| nt|kirp: down 2, looks like|pg|| nt|yke: I like 1@D especially in a polish syste because it promises real diamonds|pg|| mb|3C|nt|kit: Lair looking for more it seems|pg|| nt|ntmon: pass over 2@D and X later will be for penalty|pg|| nt|tihana: only a heart|pg|| nt|chmitty: in french standard, they are not in slam zone|pg|| nt|chmitty: so ...|pg|| nt|riccho: agree with 1@c? I find it peculiar that a french player opens v-vs this hand|pg|| nt|riccho: another edgy contract|pg|| nt|yke: way to strong for 3@D|pg|| nt|inonli: yes in polish its the real bid|pg|| mb|p|nt|kit: I'm surprised Weichsel didn't bid 3@S, unless he feared that would show 3.|pg|| nt|henryb: Probably does not expect partner to have such robust majors for 3@d|pg|| nt|ntmon: S afraid of T/O X expecting to be passed out|pg|| nt|tihana: 2N by W would be scrambling?|pg|| nt|chmitty: since the 21th century, they made some progress|pg|| nt|mamos: it seemed unlikely that North had anything to consider :)|pg|| nt|eamongall: seems they played 1NT EW in open room as they got there first ...points 20-230|pg|| nt|stc: not easy to bid S's hand|pg|| nt|runnerup: ok all well|pg|| nt|ballebodk: so would i - but maybe we should wacht and learn - a moleaten @s suit and 7-2-2-2 - i think Balicki have seen that -500 in 3@s to many times |pg|| mb|3H|nt|ntmon: i would say|pg|| nt|jcomyn: what happend the tried and trusted longest and strongest|pg|| nt|snorre: South can be much weaker, so west thought of entering the bidding...|pg|| nt|mamos: South busy thanking North for his dummy:)|pg|| nt|snorre: when I have D108x behind declearer and pd has a strong NT, I stand on table doubling!!!|pg|| nt|eamongall: 20-20 |pg|| nt|yke: well a little too strong :)|pg|| mb|p|nt|kit: If they do stumble into slam, a lot will ride on the lead|pg|| nt|henryb: and it will depend on whether they play in a minor or NT|pg|| nt|kit: I think they are in slam after this Q-bid|pg|| nt|mcarroll: Interesting - on the previous hand 3@H went down one in OR|pg|| nt|mamos: 1NT balancing not necessary strong|pg|| nt|snorre: even a weak one...|pg|| nt|snorre: 1NT 4th hand: 11-14 it seams. |pg|| nt|kirp: also helps pard on defense, knowing you have something|pg|| nt|viren169: not sure what 5@H was... but seems to have got the brakes on|pg|| mb|p|nt|stc: friendly @s and blocked @ds help a lot|pg|| nt|blum1956: The diamond lead probably was killing, but the spade looks more natural|pg|| nt|odysseus69: South meant to show 5 hearts - dont think N orth got message|pg|| nt|stc: 3NT good enough with such friendly @ds|pg|| nt|odysseus69: 3N T ok if unlikely|pg|| mb|p|nt|kit: people are talking 6NT, but they aren't getting there|pg|| nt|hawe45: Bu @C might be 3-3|pg|| nt|runnerup: yes can be rigth to x some caises,but north passed hand so pass looks ok|pg|| nt|jbgood: we dont know their agreements...|pg|| nt|ntmon: definitely not a low-scoring match|pg|| nt|baardolav: this should make easaly... NS will have the Q of @d 2 club tricks... and maybe Q of spade|pg|| pc|s6|nt|stc: 6@h can be made DD|pg|| nt|odysseus69: this is a large piece of good luck for N/S|pg|| nt|vugraphpl4: E called dir|pg|| nt|stc: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswleaderb.html it's all I have|pg|| nt|odysseus69: wrong explanation but it doesnt affect the result - N/S just got lucky|pg|| pc|sA|nt|andreasw: no q@s|pg|| nt|ppiglett: I really like 4D - showing source of tricks for pard and giving help to judge the hand if ops save at fav vul.|pg|| nt|stc: On Bo 4 EW were allowud to play and make 3@SX, so Verhees lost 8 IMP instead of winning 8|pg|| pc|s5|nt|stc: playing on @s looks better, the 10 may be short|pg|| nt|snorre: This will end up with 9 tricks|pg|| nt|kirp: this was a nice chance for EW|pg|| nt|kirp: Dummy's red 9's are now important|pg|| nt|snorre: Board 14: Lost of nice rele-bidding in closed room. Ending i 5@h, told opp the lead and down one for -11.. |pg|| nt|mamos: Dutch NS got to 5@h on 14 and after a @D lead lost three tricks and ten imps maybe too much exitement|pg|| pc|s4|pg|| nt|kit: Lair went conservative|pg|| nt|henryb: we are looking at 4 hands, Kit. I am surprised they got pat 3N|pg|| nt|ntmon: 8 tricks for declarer|pg|| nt|ntmon: W in other rooms was more dynamic|pg|| nt|runnerup: yes 8 only -beacuse @h ruff so some chances to make 9 in clubs so-|pg|| nt|baardolav: well even easier... now I would like +2 |pg|| nt|inonli: this can be a part score swing for israel as the opening 3@d other room ended the acion|pg|| pc|h4|nt|kit: 5@D is really a pretty poor contract compared to 3NT, but it will make|pg|| nt|kit: I agree Henry. Both took unclear views -- Weichsel might have bid 2@C instead of 3@C, Lair might have bid 3NT instead of 3@D, and Weichsel might have bid 3@S instead of 4@C.|pg|| nt|danilo1: no entries for @C lead ... but on any lead, declarer has enought time to develop 2@S tricks - so allways making ... |pg|| nt|jcomyn: and like the club, d opening denies d suit by the looks of things|pg|| nt|danilo1: good choice 3NT instead 4@H, may be swing board|pg|| nt|inonli: action|pg|| pc|h5|nt|hawe45: Tries the @C-suit, but wins through the @S|pg|| nt|hawe45: This seems wrong. Try @C 3-3 - and then @S. By starting with @D, opponents might just take their 5 tricks|pg|| nt|hawe45: starting with @S... sry|pg|| nt|runnerup: 4 spades you seems to have too bad suit and too much defensive values|pg|| pc|hA|nt|viren169: maybe they have some agreement in that sort of seq.|pg|| pc|h3|pg|| nt|yke: oh wait, he was 3rd hand, yes then i would bid 3@D|pg|| pc|c3|nt|kirp: still looks like down 3 or maybe more|pg|| nt|kirp: S went quietly in OR, passed 1N |pg|| pc|c8|nt|kirp: now maybe more|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cA|pg|| nt|mcarroll: depends on how @H are played - but no real choice - so yes it makes|pg|| nt|andreasw: rest now:-) |pg|| nt|mamos: yes just thinking I might organise coffee :)|pg|| nt|kista: South's X of 1@h is interesting ...Dont know what their methods are|pg|| pc|dK|nt|stc: start with @s is normal, the A@S may be an entry for @d|pg|| nt|hawe45: Never seen so bad play - with such a good result. Now even an end-play against West|pg|| nt|eamongall: Open Teams restarting tomorrow morning at 10am CET ...thats means 9am in Ireland |pg|| nt|Walddk7: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswrunda5.html running now|pg|| pc|d2|nt|odysseus69: the pass of 3Sx looks reasonable - the failure to double 5H was poor|pg|| pc|d3|nt|stc: the play is bad only if E has exactly ADxxx of @d|pg|| nt|jbgood: look at Versace's 1 spade inbid on 2 - and you will see why this match is swingy|pg|| pc|d7|pg|| pc|d5|nt|ntmon: 7 tricks only becauseof 2 @D S entries - well defended|pg|| pc|d6|nt|kirp: 2@C looked hopeless to me, after passed pard, and 2-2 in red suits|pg|| nt|yke: diamond K and 3 rounds of diamond will attack the entry to declarer|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|riccho: the edgy contract of 4@s in Bd. 3 a this table earned 10 imps for the russian team|pg|| pc|dT|pg|| nt|eamongall: its been raining all evening here in Dublin ...well since about 2pm when I went to shop |pg|| nt|yke: so i think 2 off|pg|| pc|dA|pc|dJ|pc|c6|nt|stc: but think at @d 4-3 and @c 4-2, loosing 3@d 1@s 1@c|pg|| nt|jcomyn: c,c,c and maybe the s 9 is an entry|pg|| pc|h9|pg|| nt|yke: and another diaond in the triple void |pg|| pc|c5|nt|mcarroll: this needs an endplay for the 9th trick|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c2|nt|henryb: Steve would have done better to return a @s|pg|| nt|danilo1: defense tried their best .. but very wellplayed by Andreas ... |pg|| pc|c9|pg|| nt|jbgood: just part of the reason of course...|pg|| nt|ballebodk: i think thats was a mistake form declarer to play a round of @h - i think that he need @h 3-2 and @c 3-3 to win |pg|| pc|d4|nt|danilo1: and first IMPs for Austria|pg|| nt|yke: oh sorry, declarer has a high cross ruff|pg|| nt|ballebodk: because you can see where @h1|pg|| pc|s3|nt|hawe45: No - suppose West has the @C-lenght, what should you loose by checking the @C-suit - and you might have 9 ice-cold tricks|pg|| pc|s2|pc|hJ|pg|| nt|ballebodk: @h10 are declarer cant :)|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s7|pc|sK|nt|hawe45: length|pg|| pc|sJ|pg|| nt|mcarroll: - or even simpler, play N for the @SA :)|pg|| pc|s9|nt|stc: the play is complex, hard to evaluate all %s|pg|| pc|sT|pc|hK|pc|d8|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|h7|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|mamos: it certainly turned out very badly|pg|| pc|h2|nt|riccho: difficult to see anohter trick for decl here|pg|| pc|c7|pc|hT|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h6|pc|cJ|pc|d9|pg|| nt|yke: this was scary :)|pg|| pg|| qx|o26|st||md|4S72HK843DAT3CQJ63,S94HQT65D962CKT54,SJT65H7DKQ854C982,SAKQ83HAJ92DJ7CA7|sv|b|nt|sharkey: Running scores: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswrunda5.html|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|tihana: hmm, in 3@H two diamonds two clubs are out for sure, if they shorten declarer with D immidately, without touching clubs it is not so easy for him.|pg|| mb|p|nt|tihana: last board i mean|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|vugraphplf: Running scores at http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswrunda5.html|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c9|pc|cA|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c3|pc|cT|pc|c2|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c8|nt|sharkey: @C lead doesn't hurt declarer - shud be ok despite @H break|pg|| pc|d7|pc|c6|pg|| nt|sharkey: S shud drop @CJ - "card declarer knows he has"|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s6|pc|sQ|pc|s2|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s7|pc|s9|pc|s5|pg|| pc|s3|pc|d3|pc|h5|pc|sT|pg|| pc|c5|nt|sharkey: W can play last @C and ditch @D - then x ruff|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|h2|pc|cJ|pg|| nt|henryb: At matchpoints you would now take the @h finesse, but at imps ruffing the @c, @s ruff, @d loks best|pg|| pc|s8|nt|henryb: can only lose @hK and @dA|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hT|pc|d4|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dK|pc|dJ|pc|dT|pg|| mc|11|nt|tihana: hmm. some imps to EW|pg|| nt|sharkey: Israel picked up 6 IMPs on Bd 25 as EW played 3@H after N opened 1@D CR|pg|| pg|| qx|c26|st||md|4S72HK843DAT3CQJ63,S94HQT65D962CKT54,SJT65H7DKQ854C982,SAKQ83HAJ92DJ7CA7|sv|b|nt|Vugraphzfb: Weichsel: "ugh" Robinson: "did you have a better contract?" Weichsel: "yes, an imp or two better ... good lead"|pg|| nt|henryb: but it would only have turned a quick hand into a slow one|pg|| nt|hawe45: @H-lead would have been interesting|pg|| nt|ntmon: something N has to have finally|pg|| nt|tihana: i got some comments regarding w 1nt, i think it is ok, you?|pg|| nt|danilo1: @S9 is entry too late ... since @C is then 9th trick ... so declarer would on @C lead need only 1 @S trick|pg|| nt|jcomyn: righto all|pg|| nt|andreasw: 13 tricks from the very beginning:-)|pg|| nt|snorre: 10 tricks?|pg|| nt|kirp: ucky, it could have been worse with dble card|pg|| nt|yuval10: 12 imps for Bridgeplus when the Israeli pair landed in 4@h|pg|| nt|yuval10: X -2|pg|| nt|kista: Many kibs tell me double is 4+@s and 1@s would be denying @s|pg|| nt|psyck: i'd take its as slam interest, & controls in other suits except @d|pg|| nt|psyck: if @d were not bid, then it could be asking for quality of @h|pg|| nt|viren169: 4@S seems the obvious bid...|pg|| nt|yke: not the best way to play it, i needed @HT stiff|pg|| mb|1S|nt|stc: as I said, starting with @c may establish the 5th trick for defense with @d 4-3|pg|| nt|andreasw: 41-35|pg|| nt|snorre: First IMP to Norway maybe?|pg|| mb|p|nt|kit: Will certainly get to 3NT, but if overcall gets heart lead things could get interesting|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: Lair: "did you have a jump shift partner?" Weichsel: "a light jump shift" Lair: "very light" Weichsel: "not really, because I made it because of the spots" Boyd: "true"|pg|| nt|ntmon: no problem with 1NT|pg|| nt|jcomyn: i did say maybe|pg|| nt|mamos: imp rather tha imps snorre?|pg|| nt|eamongall: +80 and +90 means 5 imps for Austria ... this austrian team are no mugs either ... I think some of them won Bonn Teams a month ago or so |pg|| mb|p|nt|runnerup: well defended ,but board still cost you 9 because your team mates were too aggressive|pg|| nt|runnerup: slam zone -this time @c easyest|pg|| nt|baardolav: polish club from N|pg|| nt|andreasw: yes|pg|| nt|snorre: I said "IMP", didn't I ? :)|pg|| nt|mamos: it was certainly ucky|pg|| nt|mamos: :)|pg|| nt|viren169: dble here?|pg|| nt|psyck: yes|pg|| nt|runnerup: partscore ns @s and can equelised in both tables -my guess here|pg|| nt|ballebodk: but you are Yke - its a 3@d opening |pg|| mb|p|nt|mamos: :)|pg|| nt|kista: This agreement can land them in a spot when EW preempt or compete|pg|| nt|ianmcc: agree N/S partial|pg|| nt|ballebodk: *right|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|baardolav: is this ending in 6nt? on 32 hp...|pg|| nt|andreasw: 6 clubs makes... but not easy to bid|pg|| nt|riccho: and 2@h from W is no common bid here either|pg|| nt|vugraphpl4: sorry|pg|| nt|ppiglett: True - I play against those sort of hoodwinkers too|pg|| nt|kirp: usually bad to trap with a 8-card fit at 2-level, but here is an exception|pg|| nt|psyck: we were pampered with 5 games in a row & so have to settle for a partial now|pg|| nt|viren169: 1 or 2@S now?|pg|| nt|psyck: 1|pg|| nt|ianmcc: 1|pg|| nt|viren169: 2 for me|pg|| nt|yke: pass?|pg|| nt|inonli: this will gain for Monaco|pg|| nt|yke: wow, very disciplend|pg|| nt|inonli: as in the other room EW in game|pg|| pc|c4|nt|jbgood: not the worst bid I have seen...|pg|| nt|ppiglett: Surely South didn't pass. Undo?|pg|| pc|c2|nt|kit: Tough choice for Robinson on opening lead, particularly in light of 1@C opening|pg|| nt|henryb: I guess he is cold now|pg|| nt|kit: he is? are you sure?|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: Weichsel: "I hope you're not banking on my club suit"|pg|| nt|henryb: 3@h, 3@d and 3 black tricks|pg|| nt|kit: does he really have 3 hearts?|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: Weichsel has gone out of the room and there's no one to turn the dummy - Robinson suggests I ask one of you to do it please|pg|| nt|ntmon: 7 or 8 tricks doesn't mean a difference|pg|| nt|runnerup: here ew has to stay low 1 nt looks ok|pg|| nt|tihana: would y bid sth else?|pg|| nt|baardolav: 6nt too|pg|| nt|baardolav: North hand|pg|| nt|riccho: 2NT nat.? vs an unlimited opener of 1@c looks a bit... well ....|pg|| nt|chmitty: hummm ... indeed|pg|| nt|mcsd: pass woulfd be exciting|pg|| nt|yuval10: now NS can be in troubles here|pg|| nt|viren169: 1 if you devalue the Q of diamonds|pg|| nt|viren169: and poor trumps...|pg|| pc|cA|pg|| nt|tihana: strange bid 3cl, should south show strong balance?|pg|| nt|jcomyn: a David Bird deal-em-again hand|pg|| nt|andreasw: yes - good spades...|pg|| nt|ppiglett: No prob |pg|| nt|eamongall: Is it 4 teams from each group going thru to last 64 ...and 4 extra teams from somewhere ? |pg|| pc|sA|nt|ntmon: game should be reached|pg|| nt|mamos: defence should prevail here|pg|| nt|mamos: trump leads are best |pg|| nt|snorre: I like to play Michaels in this positions as "Weak or strong". NS have no idea of how strong (or weak) pd is|pg|| nt|snorre: If strong, have to bid once more. Then North can bid 2@h and end there...|pg|| nt|psyck: @s suit not so gr8, fairly balanced hand, not enough extra values to make up|pg|| nt|yke: too disciplined in my opinion|pg|| pc|s7|nt|stc: misfit but enough points|pg|| nt|hawe45: Good lead - for declarer|pg|| nt|stc: and the most friendly lead|pg|| nt|ntmon: multi-purpose club and transfer responses in use|pg|| nt|mamos: 2NT = showing three card Spades support?|pg|| nt|kirp: and good raise|pg|| nt|viren169: interesting lead|pg|| nt|psyck: a 5th trump, or all those values in majors, would make it different|pg|| nt|runnerup: i wander what can happen in these boards not very much ,but ofcause +/- 10 in 1 or 2 bords --|pg|| pc|s4|nt|stc: now many tricks|pg|| nt|ntmon: NS helped opps to devaluate their hands here|pg|| nt|jbgood: this may well be a push|pg|| nt|andreasw: 2@h relay probably|pg|| nt|kirp: good lead, low from dblton|pg|| nt|snorre: lots of work to do here for Muller...|pg|| nt|yuval10: but the cards are well-places for them|pg|| pc|s5|pg|| nt|henryb: I think so|pg|| nt|ntmon: X for penalty|pg|| nt|andreasw: 46-35|pg|| nt|kista: On board 23 NS got socked for 500 after N raised 1@h to 2|pg|| pc|sK|nt|kit: okay, now he is cold|pg|| nt|hawe45: Especially, if E/W duck another @D|pg|| nt|runnerup: well north wked up -is it right ? -perhaps -200 |pg|| nt|andreasw: 4 NT quantitative ?|pg|| nt|riccho: np; this operating stuff is very difficult to do|pg|| pc|s2|nt|ppiglett: The singelton ten fo spades is a huge card. A little luck for N-S.|pg|| nt|kirp: things lie well, but still handling problems|pg|| nt|mamos: yep not great as cards lie|pg|| pc|s9|nt|runnerup: jump in clubs doent look the way to desripe this hand all thought it make it easy to bid 6--but is it forcing even|pg|| nt|chmitty: next door, it will start 1@c 1@d 1@s but what next ? 2NT 3@d 3NT ... or 2NT 3NT|pg|| nt|riccho: and the lead of the @sJ is sth I wouldnt have found either|pg|| nt|chmitty: in any case I suspect they will end up in 3NT|pg|| pc|s6|pg|| nt|eamongall: ah beaten by Poland in final of German Teams |pg|| nt|eamongall: anybody know what is 1@D overcall ...maybe defence to 1@C |pg|| nt|danilo1: someting strange with 1@D ... or 3@D ... did Adam really choosen to risk 1@D .. or Cesary forgot some agreement?|pg|| nt|vugraphpl4: 1 @c hasnt been alerted|pg|| nt|vugraphpl4: EW called director|pg|| nt|danilo1: Specs said 1@D is 12-15 & 4-4 M (looks like) |pg|| nt|eamongall: real diamonds or a12-14point dbl from kibiters |pg|| nt|eamongall: both majors 4+4+ or natural ... another kib|pg|| nt|danilo1: well in any case - some missunderstanding ... possible also 1@D is NAT or 4-4 M .. in that case, East's 3@D is pass/correct|pg|| nt|eamongall: I kibitz Adam and Cezary a lot and they do not make these kinds of bidding errors.... from cc469 |pg|| nt|eamongall: never ... their system they can sleepwalk through ...cc469 |pg|| nt|stc: The winnig defense was hard to find|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|henryb: How do you prevent 3 heart tricks, Kit?|pg|| nt|hawe45: Oh - was´nt ducked|pg|| nt|andreasw: 6 clubs now - but why not bid 4 @d?|pg|| nt|baardolav: 750 on stake... pass or 6@c|pg|| nt|andreasw: what is 2@c on 1 @c??|pg|| nt|baardolav: natural I belive|pg|| nt|chmitty: I like @sJ|pg|| nt|blum1956: 2NT is just too weak for the hand of that type, the few-pointed 3NT will be often missed|pg|| nt|mamos: this is not a good start for the defence|pg|| pc|h3|nt|kit: so 10 very badly needed IMPs for Lynch|pg|| nt|tihana: my gib says it will make :)|pg|| nt|baardolav: pos 8+HP and 5+ @c|pg|| nt|blum1956: I guess EW play 1@c-2@d as GF|pg|| nt|riccho: just what N needed without it 4@h would probably a better contract|pg|| nt|ppiglett: Yes much better.|pg|| nt|danilo1: can it this break be some TD at the table? ... since as far as I know NS play 5-card M ... mostly NAT., difficult to believe some alert problems from their side|pg|| pc|d2|nt|kit: I guess you really can't|pg|| nt|tihana: got explanation: NS plays kind of Polish club so 3@c shows 17+ with 5+@c and 0-2@s|pg|| nt|mcarroll: looks like @C set as trump, now will they go for the pairs 6NT or the safer 6@C?|pg|| nt|tihana: 6CL, wanna bet?|pg|| nt|runnerup: ns can not be a choice 6 @h perhaps can|pg|| nt|runnerup: nt -not really sensibal|pg|| nt|danilo1: good @CK position ... so EW need to cash @H to hold declarer on 7 tricks|pg|| nt|andreasw: yes - but points? nevermind - slam is on:-)|pg|| nt|baardolav: 1@d is 0-7|pg|| nt|andreasw: 46-37|pg|| nt|andreasw: kibb told med - 2 clubs is game force|pg|| nt|baardolav: Natural gf yeah|pg|| nt|andreasw: me|pg|| nt|chmitty: the theory is : against limited hands (2NT shows that) your lead should be neutral|pg|| nt|snorre: Worst lead for EW....|pg|| pc|sT|pg|| nt|ntmon: looks -2|pg|| nt|mamos: Spades are favorable but ..|pg|| nt|eamongall: if those kibs were right I promise you Cezary would never bid 3@D... cc469 |pg|| nt|stc: too late|pg|| pc|c7|nt|mcarroll: I agree|pg|| nt|tihana: shit|pg|| nt|tihana: sorrrry|pg|| nt|runnerup: even this can go off|pg|| nt|stc: the communication on @d is dead|pg|| pc|c3|nt|tihana: ok, at least we will have a swing|pg|| nt|baardolav: well done|pg|| nt|kirp: thats about all that is|pg|| nt|kirp: think E overbid here, with q@H|pg|| nt|kirp: and bad trumps|pg|| nt|snorre: he has some trick in spades and @h Ace.. Don't think that will be enough for ten of them.|pg|| nt|mamos: and perhaps West's raise was not sooooo good|pg|| nt|kirp: somesort of game try in @Cs maybe would have worked better|pg|| nt|mcsd: n Will try tplay for ome kind of cross ruff|pg|| pc|cT|nt|ntmon: EW will negotiate @H ruff but not much more|pg|| nt|andreasw: heart lead?|pg|| nt|baardolav: 1370 it is should be made in one flash when the @c finesse make... and K drops. There is not a play for 1390 because of single @d in east|pg|| nt|riccho: the lead is interesting in a positive way. |pg|| pc|c8|pg|| nt|ntmon: this may not be good - defensive ruffs available|pg|| nt|baardolav: @d lead|pg|| nt|andreasw: youre right Baard!!!|pg|| nt|mcsd: trump lead was best on the auction no matter 3 to the K|pg|| nt|odysseus69: yes needed a heart lead or low diamond|pg|| pc|cK|nt|kit: nice 7 of diamonds play if he really did it, which he might well have done|pg|| nt|runnerup: so 300 with rosruffes|pg|| nt|tihana: my gib says he didnt find|pg|| nt|mamos: and East needs to defend carefully now|pg|| nt|eamongall: I said danilo tahat maybe s didn't alert & n did.... adameba |pg|| pc|c9|nt|henryb: so 460|pg|| nt|kirp: N is not sure, a trump or @H, as endplay coming for S|pg|| nt|kirp: ruff a @D and S to play?|pg|| pc|d7|nt|danilo1: well, 8 tricks now|pg|| nt|snorre: well done so far by Muller...|pg|| nt|mcsd: now @H wil follow|pg|| nt|yuval10: needs to cash the @c before the @h|pg|| nt|yuval10: otherwise W play 3rd round of @h and E discard @c|pg|| pc|c6|pg|| nt|danilo1: with @SK on side and @D 3-3 .. will be no disaster |pg|| pc|hQ|nt|chmitty: good for you !|pg|| nt|snorre: Hammans 2nd rule: "If u have a singelton, lead it.."|pg|| pc|h7|nt|snorre: endplayed for 1st time... more to come?|pg|| nt|mamos: South will do very well to get this down now|pg|| nt|mamos: has to exit Heart|pg|| nt|kirp: a @D would have worked slightly better|pg|| pc|h2|nt|Vugraphzfb: short break|pg|| nt|henryb: The ladies' match is over. Joel leading by 84.|pg|| nt|mcarroll: indeed|pg|| pc|hK|pg|| nt|riccho: the 2NT is interesting in a negative way (at least thats my feeling about that...)|pg|| pc|dA|nt|tihana: hmm|pg|| nt|mamos: oops i think this will make now|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d4|nt|jbgood: a clever return - now it is at least 1 down|pg|| pc|dJ|pg|| nt|chmitty: agrre lol :)|pg|| mc|10|nt|mcsd: As Yuval said A@h-@h ...@cdisscard|pg|| nt|inonli: i dont find rules with his hand|pg|| nt|ballebodk: this is we naturalist problem sometime - we some games when responder have the right 4-5hp to make a game |pg|| nt|ballebodk: *miss|pg|| pg|| qx|o27|st||md|1S532HKQ98DAKT74C5,SKQT6HAJ76DCQT863,SAJ94HT3DQ53CAKJ4,S87H542DJ9862C972|sv|o|mb|1D|mb|d|mb|r|mb|p|mb|p|nt|henryb: Multon has every mans dream hand for this auction|pg|| mb|2C|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d3|nt|tihana: beauty|pg|| nt|sharkey: Some wud bid 1@H on Souths hand after RD to show weak hand|pg|| nt|tihana: well it is not that weak|pg|| nt|henryb: But S does not have a weak hand|pg|| nt|vugraphplf: Zimmermann said an "UPS" when he saw the dummy|pg|| nt|tihana: :)|pg|| nt|henryb: and not particularly distributional|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dK|pc|c3|pg|| pc|sK|nt|sharkey: I hesistate to call 12 HCP a "good" opener|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s7|pc|s2|pg|| nt|henryb: True, bujt with KQ/AK it has full defensive values|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|s8|pc|s3|pg|| nt|sharkey: Off 2 or 3 I think|pg|| nt|tihana: he will probably make 1 sp, 1h, 1 ruff, and 2 clubs, so 500 no so horrible|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|c6|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c7|pc|s5|nt|tihana: or 3 clubs and no ruff|pg|| pc|c8|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c9|nt|henryb: One might question why Zimmerman bid 2@c immediately|pg|| pc|h8|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c4|pc|h2|pc|d4|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h4|pc|h9|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hT|pc|h5|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|d7|pc|h7|pc|dQ|pc|d6|pg|| mc|5|pg|| qx|c27|st||md|1S532HKQ98DAKT74C5,SKQT6HAJ76DCQT863,SAJ94HT3DQ53CAKJ4,S87H542DJ9862C972|sv|o|nt|ntmon: 9 IMPs for opps for this enterprise|pg|| nt|ntmon: as you said Jon, they (did not) made it|pg|| nt|riccho: no mercy here by cronier; took the 11th trick with a @c finesse|pg|| nt|riccho: every imp can be decisive hewre|pg|| nt|mamos: well done NS great try East|pg|| nt|odysseus69: bad pass of 2NT in OR- good 5 card suit, intermediates and VUL|pg|| nt|psyck: The table is coming to life other room & attacking the players, the screen is in pieces now|pg|| nt|yke: well he has also 2 T's|pg|| nt|inonli: right maybe the 2 10's makes the choice|pg|| mb|1D|nt|ntmon: low scoring match|pg|| nt|blum1956: Anyway 3NT is makeable only from East's hand (assuming no heart lead if West playing)|pg|| nt|viren169: A light opening here?|pg|| mb|d|nt|chmitty: a beautiful 7@d here|pg|| nt|psyck: its fine with 5431 shape|pg|| mb|r|nt|stc: on 26 N started on @c and finished -1 :)|pg|| nt|chmitty: would be great to bid|pg|| nt|mamos: wellan excellent result for the Norwegian team which will/may reduce the deficit considerably|pg|| nt|mamos: imps lol loads of imps|pg|| nt|mamos: part score hand|pg|| nt|runnerup: ok something -5@c looks good save and 5@s has difficulties because @s is 4-0|pg|| mb|p|nt|mcarroll: after all that allegedly knowledgable stuff, def solve the problem :)|pg|| nt|jbgood: most people think that there should be a free seating - not by gender|pg|| nt|jcomyn: why bid at all|pg|| nt|mamos: hehe|pg|| nt|kirp: not with 10 trumps|pg|| nt|snorre: To much power in bidding I think, when these kind of great play leads to one down and -6 IMPs|pg|| nt|viren169: 3@D looks like a good raise (better is 4@S)|pg|| nt|psyck: 27 Zar (points+controls+shape); min 26 to open|pg|| nt|viren169: Now South will have to guess at the 5-level|pg|| mb|p|nt|yke: also his T's are in the long suits, which makes it better|pg|| nt|yke: supporting T's|pg|| mb|1H|nt|eamongall: but Austria will have a chance later at 6@Cs so plenty of excitment to come |pg|| nt|ianmcc: 5@s looks fraught|pg|| mb|p|nt|stc: W ducked @s twice, very well played|pg|| nt|runnerup: minor game -so avoid 3nt is the name off this hand|pg|| nt|snorre: dbl : "I have something, but I don't know what to bid...."|pg|| mb|p|nt|Walddk1: Welcome to Oosman|pg|| nt|stc: probably 4@s -1|pg|| mb|d|nt|oosb: Hi again|pg|| nt|inonli: 1@hx end|pg|| nt|yke: I don;t like to defend at the one level|pg|| nt|ballebodk: now it was nice to have qurindadouble to show 3 suits :)|pg|| mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfb: Boyd: "I think that is a constructive jump" Robinson: "I think it's just to play"|pg|| nt|henryb: I guess 4@s is easier than 3N|pg|| nt|runnerup: ns slam zone in @s but ew can then bid 7 clubs -ok not here and perhaps only teoria|pg|| nt|ntmon: trump lead indicated|pg|| nt|ntmon: my yesterday fellow commenator - a lady - told: we are going to see a lot of contract played by W and N|pg|| nt|danilo1: if 1@D 4 (looks like), why not?|pg|| nt|riccho: Yesterday Id seen a russian pair which bid 1@c (p) 2@d with sth like x Axx KQJx Qxxxx (AFAIR)|pg|| nt|chmitty: actually 7@d may be not so great|pg|| nt|chmitty: you can't ruff a Spade AND cash the 4 @c tricks|pg|| nt|chmitty: so you are down to the @s finesse more or less|pg|| nt|riccho: so u have to rely on the @s finesse|pg|| nt|riccho: :)|pg|| nt|chmitty: or some king of squeeze|pg|| nt|yuval10: some S's will surely reopen with a X here|pg|| nt|kista: should be 2 down|pg|| nt|yuval10: 2@s X wouldn't have been a big success|pg|| mb|p|nt|ntmon: but EW might doubled at 5th level already if they find clubs|pg|| nt|mcarroll: now 5@C completes the picture|pg|| nt|tihana: i was spying the other room, they are in 7@H|pg|| nt|jcomyn: hasnt n already bid his hand|pg|| nt|baardolav: Hello Oosman|pg|| nt|kirp: need to be quick NS, get N in with A@C|pg|| nt|viren169: Club-club looks good defence|pg|| nt|ianmcc: @c A then @cK|pg|| nt|yke: you need to defend like a grandmaster|pg|| nt|inonli: they are:)|pg|| nt|yke: but these are world grandmasters :)|pg|| mb|p|nt|henryb: although both are simple|pg|| nt|runnerup: perhaps east thought west to have more and continued -now just trust and bid 5 @d|pg|| nt|andreasw: hi |pg|| nt|oosb: some very exciting boards this set|pg|| nt|snorre: 3@h just preemptiv in my world...|pg|| nt|inonli: mostly will start by trump|pg|| nt|yke: trump lead?|pg|| pc|cA|nt|ntmon: from any holding :)|pg|| nt|mcarroll: True - and effective|pg|| nt|blum1956: Just not enough HCP for 7@d|pg|| nt|chmitty: Queen @s with 4@c ... or a double squeeze|pg|| nt|odysseus69: this East hand is what a pass of 2NT should look like|pg|| nt|inonli: will switch in a moment|pg|| pc|c2|nt|danilo1: y mean North? ... Dble is OK ... he has max and M 4-cards|pg|| nt|riccho: thats the simple way of avooding grand slam... |pg|| nt|kista: yes but that would be very speculative|pg|| nt|eamongall: rumour is Norwegian ladies up by 15 versus Meckwell team |pg|| pc|c5|nt|stc: don't be surprised by E bidding, the delayed X shows shortness in @h|pg|| nt|chmitty: that's litterature now :)|pg|| pc|c6|pg|| nt|stc: nice 4@s here|pg|| nt|mcarroll: goodnight!|pg|| nt|oosb: phantom save/|pg|| nt|oosb: ?|pg|| nt|andreasw: 3 down|pg|| nt|inonli: ither room in 2@cx no a dream as well|pg|| nt|ballebodk: i dont understand it - lead a trumf - you have at least 25 hp - the only thing to ruin that is trumfs |pg|| pc|h3|nt|ntmon: EW should scramble 8 tricks|pg|| nt|odysseus69: here 4S is a poor contract but sure to be repeated through the field|pg|| nt|yke: perhaps W should have bid 2@C, partner probably does not have a 4 card major so there is a good chance for a club fit|pg|| pc|h2|nt|runnerup: so something can happen in this board in many matches |pg|| nt|runnerup: really -how wrong i was|pg|| nt|riccho: the lead will make the play fast at least|pg|| nt|ppiglett: I remamber days when the East hand was condered not good enough to open a weak 2! Pre-empts are for prempting is my view. Chacun a son gout!|pg|| nt|danilo1: can this go down?|pg|| nt|inonli: yes but sometimes if you dont think you give a ruff position you want to decide from which side to lead it first|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|jbgood: for the first time I have received comments from kibs supporting the seating rule - of course there are different opinions :)|pg|| nt|viren169: But declarer should prevail|pg|| nt|yke: maybe even 5-4 fit|pg|| nt|inonli: or if lead the 10 or small|pg|| pc|hA|pg|| nt|hawe45: Why can South not bid 3 @H in the first round - to play?|pg|| nt|hawe45: Or correct|pg|| nt|ntmon: quiet board here :)|pg|| nt|oosb: looks 2 down to me|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|stc: 11 easy tricks now|pg|| nt|psyck: duck twice|pg|| nt|ianmcc: just hold up @sA|pg|| pc|cK|nt|runnerup: perhaps wets should bid 2nt to show both minors|pg|| nt|oosb: 2@C 1@h to come|pg|| nt|andreasw: club ruff|pg|| nt|snorre: spades from west when he win clubs, and east can not be endplayed..|pg|| nt|danilo1: @H now|pg|| nt|viren169: yes|pg|| nt|runnerup: looks down to me|pg|| pc|c7|nt|hawe45: Now 450|pg|| nt|stc: if defense starts with 2 rounds of @h declarer will be very worried :(|pg|| nt|jcomyn: add up the hcp partner cant have anything|pg|| nt|snorre: North can tell by his spaded which suit he wants pd to play|pg|| nt|mamos: another test for NS|pg|| nt|kirp: trump lead rated not to work here,|pg|| nt|mamos: North has played smallest Spades|pg|| nt|snorre: 34: Play clubs pls|pg|| nt|kirp: awake or asleep?|pg|| nt|snorre: If pd has @d king and east EK clubs, @d is correct now|pg|| nt|snorre: A spade less and AKx @c's|pg|| nt|kirp: if pard has @D K, he should have played higher spades|pg|| nt|mamos: yes Snorre that was what I was thinking -- again South will deserve praise for Club here|pg|| nt|snorre: that is what I am trying to say... :)|pg|| nt|mamos: well not just South North too because we think he has beeen trying to help|pg|| pc|s5|pg|| nt|mcarroll: the curse of the commentator|pg|| nt|jbgood: looks like an attempt to present declarer with a Greec gift|pg|| nt|tihana: well, no matter what seating rules are, men can play more hands if they intend to. Seating rules cant change someone bidding 3N on every occasion possible.|pg|| nt|andreasw: not any longer|pg|| nt|yke: the spectators tell me there are a lot of accidents on this hand on the other tables|pg|| nt|inonli: seems a flat 500|pg|| nt|yke: for example 2@D -6 :)|pg|| pc|d5|nt|mcarroll: will do now - continuing Trumps might have worked better|pg|| nt|ntmon: at least will give E un unpleasant guess|pg|| pc|d8|nt|jcomyn: i have alwsays been told when you bid 1nt thats it|pg|| nt|mamos: yes the danger here for East - whether he knew it or not was in being endplayed but EW have avoided that and the contract should be -1|pg|| nt|runnerup: now still loosing 2 spades or 1 sp+1 club|pg|| nt|viren169: Might have done it if declarer ruffed 3 diamonds in hand?|pg|| nt|psyck: they have been pushed to 5@s other room too, so this will continue to remain a low scoring affair|pg|| nt|ianmcc: are we looking at this correctly? another @s now, then @c he can take the tap and cross to draw trumps|pg|| pc|dK|nt|danilo1: not easy for Arno (North) ... East did not show two-suiter|pg|| nt|eamongall: can go down .. unless find singleton @DA I think |pg|| nt|yke: so minus 3|pg|| nt|yke: W will get 2 heart tricks and spade K|pg|| nt|yke: buyt N can play J of @C for a spade discard|pg|| nt|yke: so minus 4?|pg|| pc|h6|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sA|nt|jbgood: thanks all for opinions on the regulation - so much for that for now.)|pg|| pc|s7|nt|mamos: applause|pg|| pc|s2|pg|| nt|oosb: sementa wont finesse :)|pg|| nt|ppiglett: S squeeze for the overtrick.|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c9|pc|s3|nt|kirp: good for NS|pg|| pc|c3|pg|| nt|baardolav: 4@s is not that easy to beat...|pg|| nt|snorre: Cheers for Poland!!!|pg|| nt|inonli: 3|pg|| pc|hT|nt|psyck: no had no chance by ruffing @d's as will have to ruff with high trumps & will lose 2 trumps|pg|| pc|h4|nt|eamongall: GIB sees only double dummy |pg|| pc|hK|nt|hawe45: Double-dummy, you make 12 tricks with @H and another @H|pg|| nt|oosb: yes you're right|pg|| pc|h7|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hJ|nt|ntmon: 6@S in OR - quite a result|pg|| pc|s4|nt|ntmon: better timing would be @S ruffs first an then @H|pg|| pc|h5|pg|| nt|danilo1: excellent defense|pg|| nt|yke: ah 5th diamod is not high|pg|| nt|inonli: @d in end|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s9|pc|s8|pc|h9|pg|| nt|danilo1: -2|pg|| nt|inonli: ok -4:)|pg|| pc|d4|pc|c8|pc|dQ|pc|d2|pg|| pc|sJ|nt|inonli: a mistake by declarer|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d7|pc|s6|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d9|nt|runnerup: 6 @s bid and made |pg|| nt|ntmon: 6@S needs to get @H in|pg|| pc|dT|pc|cT|pg|| pc|dA|pc|sT|pc|c4|pc|dJ|pg|| pg|| qx|o28|st||md|2SA982HJ3DJT53C743,SQJT53HTDAQ62CQ52,SK4HAKQ62DK874CK6,S76H98754D9CAJT98|sv|n|nt|sharkey: 4@H here...|pg|| mb|1S|nt|henryb: really? how?|pg|| nt|sharkey: problems with @H break|pg|| nt|vugraphplf: EW had a little argument over the 2@C|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|nt|henryb: @h break, @cA offside, @d break|pg|| mb|2H|mb|p|nt|henryb: 2@h may be hard to make|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|henryb: I was taught when young that East Must double 3N, otherwise partner cannot play him for that much|pg|| nt|sharkey: Monaco picked up 7 more IMPs on Bd 27 as West played 1@H x for -800 CR|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|s6|pc|s2|pg|| nt|sharkey: It's easy for us to see West shud switch to @C at some point....|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|hJ|pc|hT|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d9|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c3|pg|| nt|sharkey: wd|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c4|nt|tihana: switch in time|pg|| nt|sharkey: yes|pg|| nt|vugraphplf: Zimmermann visibly annoyed by the @CJ|pg|| nt|tihana: lol|pg|| nt|vugraphplf: Nobody at the table could have missed that|pg|| nt|vugraphplf: He looks like "What the hell are you doing, partner?"|pg|| nt|henryb: Well he knows that S can't have 4 clubs, so obviously partner has AJ10 fifth|pg|| nt|sharkey: Contract 4@H CR...|pg|| nt|henryb: With 4-4 in the minors S would have bid 2@c not 2@d|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c6|pg|| pc|c5|mc|7|nt|tihana: if i was multon i would think a long before producing 8 of clubs after partner overtook and return clubs :)|pg|| pg|| qx|c28|st||md|2SA982HJ3DJT53C743,SQJT53HTDAQ62CQ52,SK4HAKQ62DK874CK6,S76H98754D9CAJT98|sv|n|nt|stc: solid NT part score for EW|pg|| nt|ntmon: the contract goes back and forth|pg|| nt|andreasw: board 20 a tie...|pg|| nt|mamos: thats the second game in two boards that might have gone off - |pg|| nt|snorre: these problems are simple for us kib's.. :)|pg|| nt|ritong: so did helness|pg|| nt|danilo1: NS on bidding test now|pg|| nt|odysseus69: unless Norths second heart was a suit preference that deadly club switch was in fact dangerous |pg|| nt|psyck: if 3rd @s, defense just draws all trumps|pg|| nt|viren169: need to look at that hand a bit more carefully!|pg|| nt|psyck: & has to lose @c|pg|| nt|yke: yes, he missed it|pg|| mb|1S|nt|jcomyn: classic passed out deal|pg|| nt|chmitty: interesting hand again : better avoid 5@c and play 3NT|pg|| nt|kirp: 4@H and 5@S looks like|pg|| nt|stc: yes but perhaps 3imp worth|pg|| mb|d|nt|stc: even 3NT may win|pg|| nt|runnerup: yes it is bad contrack.but it cant be if it makes -can it?|pg|| nt|ntmon: huge lead, 25:4 so far|pg|| nt|ppiglett: A bit of action here I suspect!|pg|| mb|1N!|an|clubs|nt|hawe45: This is the board, where you can - bis mistake - bid 3 NT. Easy make|pg|| nt|ntmon: five push boards in a row|pg|| nt|riccho: looks a bit like a bridge world challenge the champs hand ...|pg|| nt|kirp: now will S balance with 4@S|pg|| nt|odysseus69: dead right - extra undertrick should bring in 3 imps|pg|| nt|ianmcc: If @sA then @s dummy high|pg|| nt|inonli: 1NT = @c|pg|| mb|p|nt|mcarroll: lots of action elsewhere but pretty mundane here|pg|| nt|ntmon: strong clubs system :)|pg|| nt|snorre: "might" is a kind word... :)|pg|| mb|2C|nt|runnerup: this looks like partscore battle -ew 10 in clubs-ns less in @h|pg|| nt|ntmon: a treatment now|pg|| nt|mareczek: South has the obvious opening|pg|| nt|oosb: that's some push! a lot of pairs stopped short of slam|pg|| nt|ppiglett: East will be wondering how big a number this could be when the board comes through!|pg|| mb|2H|nt|hawe45: Oups|pg|| nt|ntmon: interesting how the bidding would develop w/o interference|pg|| nt|ntmon: now 2@S ?|pg|| nt|danilo1: do not believe ... North, East or South may open|pg|| nt|blum1956: Willard's overcall helps to stop in 3NT|pg|| nt|riccho: true|pg|| nt|kirp: hooray for Netherlands|pg|| nt|kirp: they need some cheering|pg|| nt|mamos: this was a system win I think very hard for NS|pg|| nt|kirp: dble game swing for Neth|pg|| mb|p|nt|henryb: I'm a crawling Stayman bidder|pg|| nt|stc: and the ideal lead|pg|| nt|mcarroll: another Hamman hand?|pg|| nt|riccho: even v-vs a heavy loaded 5@D "preempt"|pg|| nt|mamos: ty :)|pg|| nt|kirp: club lead would at least have beaten it|pg|| nt|yuval10: let's see if NS can find the @c fit|pg|| nt|psyck: dummy had a @c left|pg|| nt|ianmcc: OK sorry|pg|| mb|2S|nt|ntmon: 4@D ?|pg|| nt|chmitty: form East point of view that 2NT shows @h ace|pg|| nt|yke: NS will get too high|pg|| mb|3C|nt|ntmon: 1@S already implied @D ?|pg|| nt|ntmon: bid in the same second|pg|| nt|tihana: is 4h by Sabine an option?|pg|| nt|mareczek: better to stay silent and be thought a fool than open your mouth and remove all doubt|pg|| nt|jcomyn: with the object of either going down or scoring 90|pg|| nt|mamos: I did think of typing might/should|pg|| nt|snorre: east knew pd had two spades at most, so of course he should have kept three of them...|pg|| nt|mamos: The Norwegians look like defeating 3@h on Board 6 so may be on the way to taking the lead here|pg|| nt|snorre: Find some more coffee, mamos.. A calm 1NT here... |pg|| nt|mamos: I'm a simple soul I'd have lead @d3 by now|pg|| nt|odysseus69: Israeli players tend to be conservative and 1NT from South is characteristic|pg|| nt|inonli: 2@s = we play game i want to find which|pg|| mb|3D|nt|hawe45: Switch to the @D King...|pg|| nt|mcarroll: 1 @H alerted - transfer, 2@C not alerted bur cannot be natural, |pg|| nt|chmitty: which is not good news for a @c slam|pg|| nt|riccho: vs a WK NT hand the E hand doesnt look like a slaminviter anyway|pg|| nt|odysseus69: well done by North|pg|| mb|p|nt|andreasw: heart lead ? |pg|| nt|oosb: seems like a very reasonable contract|pg|| nt|blum1956: certainly|pg|| nt|runnerup: 31 points but no fit so 4@h or 3nt|pg|| nt|ianmcc: will clean spectacles|pg|| nt|ballebodk: a very tough 2@s from s - i know that 2@h shows a good hand - but ....|pg|| nt|inonli: they will end in 4@h i think|pg|| nt|yke: well you can't afford to iss a vul game|pg|| nt|yke: miss|pg|| mb|4D|nt|jcomyn: who said that marek|pg|| nt|mareczek: "all in" lead by North|pg|| nt|jcomyn: you or aristotle|pg|| nt|oosb: cant lead @s after the 2@S bid|pg|| nt|andreasw: spade bid prevented spade lead|pg|| nt|oosb: perfectly logical @h lead, just unlucky|pg|| nt|oosb: more than one way to get to 9 tricks now|pg|| nt|mamos: :)|pg|| nt|yuval10: maybe 3@c (persumably a sort of checkback ) follow by 4@c over 3NT would give a clear message|pg|| nt|danilo1: thk it has been lot of possible bids before 6@H available|pg|| mb|p|nt|kit: Should Lair pass 2@D? I think so. 4 diamonds more likely than 2.|pg|| nt|snorre: Think one down if EW play club after four times @d's.|pg|| nt|runnerup: 28 -ok so 3nt but can it go down -maybe not|pg|| nt|inonli: 5@d may dbl'ed by W|pg|| nt|inonli: after his pd bid freely|pg|| nt|inonli: 4@h can be dbled by E|pg|| nt|inonli: so they go for big minus now|pg|| mb|4H|nt|stc: Q@s, 10@h, K@d and KQ@c, FIVE key cards on side !|pg|| nt|hawe45: Bidding like this, you need it|pg|| nt|stc: but passing to the state of the match|pg|| nt|ntmon: theory (Garozzo i think said it) - against strong club, be as soon as possible at 3@S|pg|| nt|mareczek: both rooms opened 1@h with East|pg|| mb|p|nt|ntmon: good competitive decision by W|pg|| nt|eamongall: meckwell still have 2 slam hands to play |pg|| nt|viren169: 9 of spades was abig card on the last hand!|pg|| nt|runnerup: south opened so slam in norths eyes |pg|| nt|psyck: hmmm, strange not to play 4th suit 2@c as game force|pg|| mb|p|nt|mcarroll: good sacrifice|pg|| nt|mcarroll: 8 tricks on top and little prospect of a 9th?|pg|| nt|odysseus69: they may run from laydown|pg|| nt|viren169: wow|pg|| nt|viren169: did this really happen?|pg|| nt|runnerup: slam -ok -south didnt even think a game..|pg|| nt|psyck: if you think the hand is worth opening, you should treat it as a normal opening & not take views later|pg|| mb|p|nt|runnerup: well found -minors are not easy to be found because they can be sorter than 4 when opened|pg|| nt|oosb: but @D 9 seems best|pg|| nt|snorre: or this way... |pg|| nt|inonli: ok no dbl no trouble|pg|| nt|yke: i think should have doubled 4!@H|pg|| nt|yke: but maybe he was not expecting a pass from S|pg|| pc|s7|nt|mamos: We are told not to bid on weak hands over pre-emptive openings and hard for North to act over 4@h and indeed for South West has a huge variety of hand sfor this action|pg|| nt|odysseus69: problem created by 1NT bid when he should have bid 2D|pg|| nt|ballebodk: a wimpy pass from E - i think - i know the opps play worldclass, but even them cant run from bad splits :)|pg|| nt|inonli: holding ace single in my pd opening suit and 5 trumps i would dbl this game|pg|| nt|yke: dummy is seriously lacking entries|pg|| nt|ballebodk: dummy is seriously lacking high cards or a desent fit :)|pg|| nt|yke: @SK, heart to the J and J of @D is best i think|pg|| pc|s8|nt|andreasw: yes.much better|pg|| nt|baardolav: No direct entries for the @d suit|pg|| nt|oosb: but no entries now|pg|| nt|oosb: he actually wanted @D to lose, so he can set up a nice 2nd finesse and entry :) |pg|| nt|andreasw: there will be|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|henryb: Earlier in this match Boyd- Robinson couldn't get out of 1N because they play puppet (I think) and went -100 in 1N with 3@s made at the other table|pg|| pc|sK|pg|| nt|kista: a good slam to reach|pg|| pc|hA|nt|hawe45: Oups|pg|| nt|ntmon: preempting apparently works here w/o need to bid 4@H|pg|| nt|inonli: single dummy declarer thinks he in fair contract|pg|| pc|h4|nt|ntmon: with actual score, Couples shifted to the 1st place|pg|| nt|ntmon: helping lead|pg|| nt|oosb: this works |pg|| nt|viren169: South must have have missed the 2@C bid|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hT|pg|| pc|h2|nt|stc: %play knowing 4@h in S|pg|| nt|jbgood: 27 teams from the A-Swiss and 5 from the B go on to the KO stages - follow the exciting finish of this last round here: http://b.poznan2011.pl/mxt/swrunda5.html|pg|| nt|danilo1: looks very possible third hand ... personally I would pass as North and East, but I would open as South|pg|| nt|ppiglett: Suit preference card - the 10 of clubs.|pg|| pc|h5|nt|riccho: N should hav an easy task now to hold the @hq|pg|| nt|viren169: or had a blind spot (senior moment!)|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|snorre: We are still waiting for Running score from all matches. A lot of teams, so they need some time to set up everything.. |pg|| pc|s5|pg|| pc|d3|nt|hawe45: N/S or E/W?|pg|| nt|andreasw: yes:-)'|pg|| pc|dA|nt|mcarroll: this would not work if W had anything in @Hs|pg|| nt|tihana: if Jacob switches to !J after club holds?|pg|| nt|runnerup: no opening hand to me ,but once you do so -there must be a way to avoid this kind of acsidents |pg|| pc|d4|nt|henryb: Its a question, I think, of how likely opener is to have two major suit doubletons|pg|| pc|d9|pg|| nt|tihana: diamond jack|pg|| nt|yke: no he is lucky he isnt' doubled |pg|| nt|yke: small club now|pg|| pc|sJ|nt|hawe45: S - OK|pg|| nt|hawe45: Mistake, forget|pg|| nt|kirp: tuff game when you have to lead your dblton to get a ruff with singleton|pg|| nt|yuval10: as some specs pointed out , the 2NT by South ( instead of 3 @c ) made it easier for Ns to reach the good slam|pg|| pc|s4|nt|viren169: Sorry strike out the senior moment bit - I cant say that anymore (I am told)!|pg|| nt|psyck: Vul, i'd certainly not open too, maybe if favorable vul|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sA|pg|| nt|inonli: i cant find hand where to play @s is better then @c|pg|| nt|inonli: here it was worse|pg|| pc|d5|nt|odysseus69: 3nt x making becomes 4D minus 1|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d7|nt|runnerup: yes hey have played well and been lucky,but so it is is you play well luck follows you|pg|| nt|ntmon: claim|pg|| nt|mcarroll: indeed, this will actually make|pg|| nt|psyck: passing 2@h was just bonkers :)|pg|| nt|ianmcc: he couldn't find a bid|pg|| nt|yke: I think spade makes some sense, he didnt knew partner had a trump trick|pg|| nt|inonli: it doesnt run|pg|| nt|yke: if N was 64|pg|| pc|cJ|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h7|nt|ntmon: i like this system with transfer responses just because there is more room for minors|pg|| pc|c3|nt|inonli: wow|pg|| pc|c2|pg|| nt|snorre: Will be posted here: http://www.poznan2011.pl/results|pg|| nt|stc: yes, they lost a big oportunity|pg|| nt|inonli: didnt ruff it?|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h8|pc|c4|nt|kit: this overruff will hurt I believe|pg|| pc|s3|pg|| nt|mamos: much better defence :)|pg|| nt|inonli: now -1|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h9|nt|inonli: -3 became 1|pg|| pc|c7|nt|henryb: if he pitches a @c he could have made it, I think|pg|| nt|kit: I hope Boyd doesn't really have a problem here|pg|| nt|henryb: maybe not|pg|| nt|yke: Why didnt east trumped the diamond? no he is thrown in|pg|| pc|sT|pg|| nt|stc: a bite like the non X of 5@h on the other side|pg|| nt|yke: this board is not very well played and defended|pg|| pc|c8|nt|kit: oh good grief|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: BOyd: "sorry" Robinson: "I did overruff with the J"|pg|| pc|s2|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pg|| pc|dK|nt|viren169: He may not find a partner after the pass!|pg|| pc|c9|pc|dT|pc|d6|pg|| pc|d8|pc|cT|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c6|pc|cA|pc|s9|pg|| pg|| qx|o29|st||md|3SQJ87643HD93CQT43,ST2HA984DT4CA9765,S95HKQJT753DAJ7CJ,SAKH62DKQ8652CK82|sv|b|mb|4H|mb|p|nt|henryb: You are a cruel and unusual person|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|sK|pc|s3|pc|sT|pc|s5|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|s9|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d3|pc|dT|pc|d7|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d9|pc|d4|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|s6|pc|hA|pg|| nt|sharkey: off 3|pg|| pc|cA|pc|cJ|pc|c2|pc|c3|pg|| pc|c5|pc|h7|nt|sharkey: 2|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c4|pg|| mc|8|nt|sharkey: last board coming up|pg|| pg|| qx|c29|st||md|3SQJ87643HD93CQT43,ST2HA984DT4CA9765,S95HKQJT753DAJ7CJ,SAKH62DKQ8652CK82|sv|b|nt|stc: This game showed how important J are, each one was worth a trick !|pg|| nt|ntmon: Roland Wald uses to say "club suit died in 50-ties"|pg|| nt|danilo1: Will South open 1 or 4 @H?|pg|| nt|jcomyn: 1h|pg|| nt|mareczek: toay style is 3@s opening with North hand|pg|| nt|jcomyn: how far will ew go in clubs|pg|| nt|andreasw: 50-37|pg|| nt|riccho: another quick play lead...|pg|| nt|kirp: 15 imp swing to give Neth the lead|pg|| nt|mamos: the overtrick made it 15 imps and a Dutch lead --|pg|| nt|eamongall: that Norwegians have not made the best of though ... |pg|| nt|Walddk7: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswrunda3.html|pg|| nt|odysseus69: I think when he doubled that he knew they would run - the auction was shaky|pg|| nt|yke: well it was only about a couple of undertricks|pg|| nt|ballebodk: well - a lot better played than defended !|pg|| nt|yke: but they are 100 each vulnerable|pg|| mb|1H|nt|kit: Guaranteed to wrongside 3NT, and he succeeds|pg|| nt|hawe45: Called Jackpot|pg|| nt|snorre: 3@h down 2 vs 4@h made on board 6.... 11 for Norway|pg|| mb|2D|nt|stc: lol|pg|| nt|ntmon: so why do not do something in systems to recover?|pg|| nt|danilo1: 1 looks correct, but at this voulnerabilities, 4 may be rite action|pg|| nt|riccho: presumably a 12-14 BAL or 16+ 1@c opener|pg|| nt|mamos: 6@h not exactly the obvious Slam|pg|| nt|viren169: 3@C?|pg|| mb|2S|an|NF|nt|oosb: other room played 3@S in 21|pg|| nt|kirp: Looks like 7@D makes here, wonder why 6@Hs in OR|pg|| mb|3D|nt|runnerup: ns has points but west distribution so perhaps 2 spades |pg|| nt|blum1956: As opposite to the previous hand, EW must play 5@c here|pg|| nt|blum1956: not 3NT|pg|| nt|chmitty: we can see there are some good reasons to do so from East's perspective|pg|| nt|viren169: right vul|pg|| nt|inonli: 3NT EW here|pg|| nt|inonli: but tough to reach and play|pg|| mb|3H|nt|kit: 4@D might well make|pg|| nt|henryb: Many of us are not convinced of 3N gambling as a good bid, because if 3N is right the wrong person will be playing it|pg|| nt|henryb: I open 1@c with Steve's hand|pg|| nt|kit: Not sure what Weichsel is thinking -- maybe of raising, maybe wondering if 4@D is conventional|pg|| nt|riccho: :) I c the point |pg|| nt|snorre: and more to come for Norway on B7...|pg|| nt|mamos: these ten board matches fly past - our penultimate board after about an hour|pg|| nt|mamos: I think EW play relay methods|pg|| nt|viren169: dont like 2@C... will excite pd|pg|| nt|runnerup: this is potential game but down if bid normal declarer played|pg|| nt|ianmcc: I don't think E/W can make a game|pg|| mb|3S|nt|henryb: and rebid 2@c and 3@c|pg|| nt|henryb: or 4@c if indicated|pg|| nt|henryb: to show the solid suit|pg|| nt|kit: I don't know what Boyd is thinking of doing|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: He's definitely thinking about something|pg|| nt|danilo1: opps, srry ... missed Bd Nr. (thought Sout dealer) |pg|| nt|jcomyn: might have been interesting if vul reversed|pg|| nt|chmitty: 2@s x : support other suits|pg|| nt|blum1956: redouble showing the Ace|pg|| nt|vugraphpl4: i cant hear anything :/|pg|| nt|mamos: EW in OR had to contend with a Muiderberg 2@S in OR|pg|| nt|vugraphpl4: Ilczuk undo his bid|pg|| nt|kirp: if this is start of relay auction, wake me when its over|pg|| nt|odysseus69: support double showing 3 hearts|pg|| mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfb: and that must have been what|pg|| nt|stc: S noticed that all cards are good for declarer in this match|pg|| nt|riccho: 5@d can be a very expensive save|pg|| nt|chmitty: the french also stopped at 2NT at board 6 ... but with some reason, South overcalling !!|pg|| nt|blum1956: Max may expect that Anna has not that long diamonds (she seems to keep 4 spades|pg|| nt|chmitty: 3@c : my hand is interesting, although I passed 2@s ... so good support for red suits, with no doubt|pg|| nt|riccho: with the S Hand? boah...|pg|| nt|riccho: for sure - if they didnt switch systems since last round... :)|pg|| nt|kirp: Is this a Str @C auction|pg|| nt|danilo1: with West's hand, Adam may opt for 4@H rather than 3NT|pg|| mb|3N|nt|oosb: 3NT from North is comfy|pg|| nt|chmitty: passed 2@c sry|pg|| nt|blum1956: Certainly Anna will bid 5@c|pg|| nt|blum1956: and NS should take a save|pg|| nt|inonli: worng side|pg|| mb|p|nt|henryb: If I opened 1@c the auction would go 1@c-1@h-2@c-3N and we would get a low diamond lead|pg|| nt|kit: Interesting -- maybe right, but still .....|pg|| nt|mr murray: talk to u later. Going out to play poker now. Took me all day to get ready to go out and play a few hours. No energy in my body at all :)|pg|| nt|kit: Now Weichsel does have a problem -- who can make what?|pg|| nt|ntmon: taking a low road|pg|| nt|runnerup: now have to find @h out|pg|| nt|runnerup: @h said i not ace @h|pg|| nt|danilo1: very difficult task for Guido id declarer plays low @S especially|pg|| nt|riccho: the save can be a good fortune for EW|pg|| nt|inonli: wrong|pg|| mb|p|nt|blum1956: wow!|pg|| nt|riccho: inviting to a phantom sacrficie|pg|| nt|snorre: not an easy 3NT to win... |pg|| nt|mamos: 3 clubs 3 spades two + one|pg|| nt|snorre: North can win first club, play spades, duck next @c and declearer can't reach dummy...|pg|| nt|mamos: blow |pg|| nt|kirp: so 2@C shows better @Ds than @Hs?|pg|| nt|inonli: sorry can be only from E|pg|| mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfb: Boyd: "all that for me, eh?" Robinson: "surprise"|pg|| nt|henryb: Well, would North really bid 2@d after 1@c-1@h?|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: He did in the othe room :)|pg|| nt|runnerup: in this vulnerability -this looks normal bidding seqwence |pg|| nt|andreasw: 10 tricks|pg|| nt|oosb: dont think he can risk trying for overtricks|pg|| nt|andreasw: no he wont|pg|| nt|odysseus69: widely used but not universally popular|pg|| nt|viren169: set the diamonds up|pg|| nt|psyck: @s fin & 2 @s ruffs needed i guess|pg|| nt|yke: in poland, they play negative freebids in the majors, and forcing in the minors|pg|| nt|ballebodk: if you mean that W should bid 3nt - then N have 7 tricks against it |pg|| pc|hK|nt|inonli: another big board for the new monaco|pg|| pc|h2|nt|ntmon: interesting play after @C lead|pg|| nt|jbgood: big gain for China on the last one...|pg|| nt|jbgood: 5 @c by W was not a success|pg|| nt|mamos: plan B|pg|| nt|mamos: im told that East has shown his Red suit length |pg|| nt|kista: agressive raise by E|pg|| pc|s8|nt|blum1956: The save in 5@d costed 800 but...|pg|| nt|chmitty: and now ladies and gentlemen ....|pg|| nt|riccho: 6@c looks a bit offroad|pg|| nt|inonli: Lengy needed his pd only to have ace@d and not @c|pg|| nt|inonli: a fair gamble|pg|| nt|yke: oh specs tells me that they also play NFB's in the minors|pg|| pc|hA|pg|| nt|ntmon: good decision by Yan to overrule partner's suit|pg|| nt|chmitty: 1540 is offroad indeed|pg|| nt|odysseus69: trying to concede a penalty - because he didnt bid 2C last time|pg|| nt|yke: you see I'm not from poland :)|pg|| pc|d4|nt|riccho: and will be a make now...|pg|| nt|ballebodk: i dont know what W should have bid after 2@s - but i think that his @d support is to weak for him to bid|pg|| pc|dA|nt|henryb: opposite a passed partner?|pg|| nt|snorre: when ur pd opens a strong @c, you never bid the suits you have. That way the strong hand becomes declearer|pg|| nt|kirp: once you know pard is 4333 with @ds or no 4-card major, and has @C K, 7 should be easy|pg|| nt|mamos: a spec has suggested that Tarzan is too hard for normal players EW are not normal players :)|pg|| nt|yuval10: looks like 8 tricks only here|pg|| nt|stc: W very conservative|pg|| nt|odysseus69: failure to double no-play contracts continues|pg|| nt|psyck: yes, @d works too as 33, but more likely to go for @s|pg|| nt|viren169: can make on some 4-2 diamond splits|pg|| nt|psyck: leaderboard: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswleaderb.html|pg|| nt|runnerup: entryes too bad -so real chance to try to find @s k north but no luck|pg|| nt|inonli: i dont find 3@d right|pg|| nt|inonli: maybe a dbl is good|pg|| nt|inonli: 4th suit dbl|pg|| mc|6|nt|kit: hard to see defense getting this wrong, so likely 3 IMPs for Lynch|pg|| pg|| qx|o30|st||md|4SKQ973H32DQJ762C8,S85HAQ65DA4CT6542,SAJTHKJ974DKTCKJ9,S642HT8D9853CAQ73|sv|o|mb|p|nt|sharkey: 4@S shud have play here|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|nt|sharkey: If they can bid it|pg|| mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|nt|tihana: 3d gf?|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|sharkey: I assume so - or trial bid?|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|dT|pg|| nt|henryb: Standard practice is natural and forcing|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dK|nt|sharkey: Next round scheduled to start in 30 minutes I think - perhaps Michal can confirm|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d6|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|s5|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s4|pc|s7|pc|s8|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s6|pc|sK|pc|c2|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|h5|pc|h4|pc|d8|pg|| nt|sharkey: Thanks to Tihana, Michal & kibs, and Roland - and see you back soon|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|c4|pc|h7|pc|d9|pg|| nt|tihana: thank you all, see you soon it was fun|pg|| nt|vugraphplf: The next broadcast starting in 25 minutes, if i am not wrong|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c5|nt|sharkey: 15 minutes past the hour|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cA|pg|| mc|10|nt|sharkey: bye|pg|| nt|vugraphplf: Thank you all, room will be closing now.|pg|| pg|| qx|c30|st||md|4SKQ973H32DQJ762C8,S85HAQ65DA4CT6542,SAJTHKJ974DKTCKJ9,S642HT8D9853CAQ73|sv|o|nt|henryb: yes, and surely if Boyd had the @dA he would have drawn trump, crossed to the @dA to take his pitch|pg|| nt|kit: right -- declarer would (should) never have played that way with ace of diamonds|pg|| nt|henryb: after ruffing out the heart|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: Boyd: "you might have something - might have some distribution - might have the J of @ss. I had an opening bid, you had an opening bid, why should we defend 4@d. I don't know if we ...|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: beat 4@d"|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: Weichsel: "we haven't discussed what that means in balancing seat" Lair: "I thought we played better minor for Majors" a little more discussion|pg|| nt|ntmon: lst hand of the set|pg|| nt|Walddk7: 27+5 qualify for the Round of 32 tomorrow after five rounds of Swiss today. 27 from Swiss A and 5 from B|pg|| nt|runnerup: 1 @c -etc..|pg|| nt|jbgood: these teams are of course safe to go on to the round of 32 |pg|| nt|blum1956: Anna could use Blackwood (normally we play 14 30 responses in Russia)|pg|| nt|riccho: maybe S should have lead @cA to "have a look"|pg|| nt|snorre: That is why north should bid 2@s first round. He is white vs red...|pg|| nt|snorre: Applause for netherland!!!|pg|| nt|mamos: I think that to bid as they did such a Grand with the certainty that you know the cards is awesome|pg|| nt|vugraphpl4: director at the table|pg|| nt|vugraphpl4: i havent noticed why|pg|| nt|vugraphpl4: its ok now|pg|| nt|viren169: South having a poor few boards|pg|| nt|psyck: yes, duck could not be right when @s length known|pg|| nt|yke: yes i like double better|pg|| mb|p|nt|stc: OR also played the lucky 3NT, 11+12=26|pg|| nt|danilo1: Babsch will probably open 1NT|pg|| nt|stc: Interesting, they Xed 3NT which was cold, and not the -4 and -3 contracts :)|pg|| nt|viren169: the bidding dictated the defence|pg|| mb|2S!|an|5!s 5minor|nt|kit: Weischel has choice of declaring 2NT or 1@C it looks like|pg|| nt|henryb: 2N does better|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: Robinson: "did you have a diamond stopper?" Boyd: "I had K doubleton ... I had a stopper from my side, not from yours"|pg|| nt|ntmon: last hand of Swiss |pg|| nt|oosb: Its going well for Pony so far|pg|| nt|yke: 2@S Polish 55|pg|| nt|inonli: this will be fast flat|pg|| nt|ballebodk: ok - with the votes 3-0 we agree with X :)|pg|| mb|p|nt|ntmon: finally a turnaround board 18 - EW allowed to 5@D|pg|| nt|riccho: @s lead (as a kib mentions) was certainly not very well thought|pg|| mb|4S|nt|jbgood: last one now - hope you have enjoyed as much as I have:)|pg|| nt|andreasw: yes, calandra needs a swing|pg|| nt|chmitty: in these situations, lead the @c Ace seems to be an obligation|pg|| mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfb: Weichsel asks about the lead: "standard from feser than 4, or promises the J if from 4 or more"|pg|| nt|kit: he has down 1, but may take heart finesse trying to make and go down many|pg|| nt|tihana: tiny 3N?|pg|| nt|danilo1: waw ... both rooms played 4@S |pg|| nt|danilo1: well ... :) ... decided he is not in Club |pg|| nt|danilo1: they do not play Blue Club (for Specs)|pg|| nt|psyck: Stopping in 2@h cost then the game swing as expected|pg|| mb|p|nt|oosb: In other scores .. Brogeland trailing De Botton 22 imps to 60 !|pg|| nt|oosb: Heres the link to live scores: http://b.poznan2011.pl/mxt/r32runda1.html|pg|| mb|p|nt|andreasw: 3 nt is on...|pg|| nt|viren169: 1@S or 1N here?|pg|| nt|yke: 2@H would have been 5@H plus 5 other including spades|pg|| pc|c6|nt|runnerup: here ns must avoid 4 @s 4 @h or 3nt has chances|pg|| nt|mcarroll: If they declare a @H contract, E will have a nasty surprise for them|pg|| nt|ntmon: even in 4@S a lot to do for declarer|pg|| nt|mamos: it will be interesting to look at the traveller -- it represents a lot of practice and dedication|pg|| nt|stc: Danger to overbid here|pg|| pc|cJ|nt|ntmon: 3NT has good chance to be bid after 3@C from S|pg|| nt|tihana: lot of 10s|pg|| nt|kirp: good lead, should beat this|pg|| nt|eamongall: Wow |pg|| nt|danilo1: thk now South should reopen (4@C)|pg|| nt|stc: How wrong I was|pg|| nt|odysseus69: kind of bidding I like- can hande 1 level contracts with 23 Miltons|pg|| nt|psyck: & previous one likely to be another game swing|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|ntmon: thx to our operator in Poznan - Lukasz|pg|| nt|eamongall: south did reopen ... :) but skipped a few levels |pg|| pc|c8|pg|| nt|andreasw: will be bid now:-)|pg|| nt|oosb: wow|pg|| nt|snorre: The teams are divided in groups of 8 in the open and play a complete Round-robin of 10 boards.|pg|| nt|snorre: At the end of the Round-robin the first 3 teams from each group in the open will qualify for Swiss A and the other teams for Swiss B|pg|| nt|kirp: guess down 2 but a lot to the play|pg|| nt|yke: this might take some time since he doesn't know both heart honours are well placed|pg|| pc|cA|nt|oosb: nice bid|pg|| nt|andreasw: wd|pg|| nt|viren169: 2 schools of thought over 1@S or 1N rebid|pg|| pc|s3|nt|runnerup: but even if bid it is not made yet|pg|| nt|ntmon: 3@D to find 5th spade i think|pg|| nt|mcarroll: good pass ny N|pg|| nt|baardolav: A little bit lucky 3nt:)|pg|| nt|oosb: after that lead, you're all in|pg|| nt|chmitty: another difficult hand to bid here|pg|| nt|riccho: E promised the @sA already; so the danger of a @s lead should have been obvious|pg|| pc|c2|nt|runnerup: nearly game values here but better stay low..ok|pg|| nt|viren169: 4@S for me|pg|| nt|ianmcc: 1NT if checkback available|pg|| nt|psyck: Last deal now, thanks all. Next segment in 1.5 hours.|pg|| nt|viren169: Good game... (but will probably go down here)|pg|| nt|psyck: I open longer minor, so i'd open 1@d & rebid 1@s|pg|| nt|viren169: I agree|pg|| nt|viren169: some play 1@S shows a longer minor|pg|| pc|c9|pg|| nt|kit: At this point, Weichsel has in essence exposed his entire hand|pg|| nt|ntmon: but whole bidding a bid murky now|pg|| nt|ntmon: bit*|pg|| nt|ppiglett: South might have come in 2S as East is a limited hand and both the club and H honour are probably well placed. Anyway I am an aggressive 2S bidder. Stopping Partner bidding 4 is ...|pg|| nt|ppiglett: the problem!|pg|| nt|runnerup: bye tx -2 gameswings match -so Bessis won nicely this period|pg|| nt|psyck: y, common to bypass Major& bid NT w/o 4+minor|pg|| nt|yke: this will make it a lot easier :)|pg|| nt|yke: he might be worried about trumps 4-1 now|pg|| nt|yke: I think he will play 2 times spade and ten dimonds|pg|| pc|s7|nt|mcarroll: by|pg|| nt|oosb: close your eyes and finesse|pg|| nt|andreasw: yes west knows|pg|| nt|yke: to preserve an entry in hs own hand|pg|| pc|s5|nt|tihana: bi|pg|| nt|chmitty: 3@h sounds like : I have a stopper problem|pg|| nt|chmitty: but in which suit ?|pg|| nt|chmitty: 2@d being 100 % artificial forcing|pg|| pc|sA|nt|psyck: when responder have inv+ values, there are several artificial methods to find major fit later|pg|| pc|s4|pg|| nt|ntmon: 3NT isn't pretty|pg|| pc|sJ|nt|runnerup: now diamond lead gives chances in this|pg|| nt|ntmon: S can shed a @h on 3rd diamond|pg|| nt|stc: new leader, they played and made 3NT on the 4@D board|pg|| pc|s2|nt|ntmon: @DJ and @CQ well placed for declarer|pg|| nt|kista: only double dummy play would let this make|pg|| nt|kista: if declarer decides against @s hook|pg|| pc|s9|nt|snorre: Last board in this room. Next match starts in 25 min. 15.45. Welcome back..|pg|| nt|psyck: If 1@h was transfer, I'd rebid 2@s as E|pg|| pc|s8|pg|| nt|runnerup: so is it possible for ns to open + imps|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c3|nt|jcomyn: i love that lead|pg|| pc|h2|nt|oosb: next.|pg|| pc|c4|pg|| nt|inonli: if trumps 4-1 he must play for @d to break or some miracle|pg|| pc|dK|nt|andreasw: wd next|pg|| pc|d3|nt|mcarroll: easy to get overboard |pg|| nt|danilo1: good stop ... 5@H may be in danger - especially with @HA lead|pg|| nt|baardolav: Have to see if @c q drops first|pg|| pc|d2|nt|mamos: an exciting set -- well fought by the Polish NS against the really World Class Dutch team - who we would expect to see in the final stages of the competition certainly potential ...|pg|| nt|mamos: winners|pg|| nt|kirp: Neth have had a strong finish to this match|pg|| nt|snorre: Last board here. next round 17.30 (15 min) due to schedule. |pg|| nt|kirp: Bye all|pg|| nt|snorre: This round was delayed by 10 minor so, so maybe a bit later than 17.30|pg|| nt|viren169: 1@H was nat and 2@H was xfer|pg|| nt|psyck: either 1 or 2@h showed @s here|pg|| pc|dA|pg|| nt|oosb: He will play it out for @C|pg|| pc|hA|nt|kit: Perhaps he should not have cashed high heart first, just led spade to dummy, led jack of hearts, and seen if he got a cover|pg|| nt|riccho: S needs a successful @C guess now; this is espec difficult after such a bd just before|pg|| nt|odysseus69: yes Constantin - in OR south showed diamonds after same start rather than the wet 1NT bid|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h8|nt|henryb: He might go up with the @hK on the theory that 1@c is 2 down and either the @hQ drops and he makes 3 or it does not and he is only 1 down|pg|| nt|chmitty: terrible set for Multon Willard so far : 4@s made by opps, a frightening 50% grand slam not bid, 6cx made, and now 3NT 2 off|pg|| nt|ppiglett: Then again you probably would have made 4S.|pg|| pc|h3|pg|| nt|mcarroll: yes - 2nd worst game contract - 4@S is the only game with any real prospect|pg|| nt|ntmon: down 4|pg|| nt|oosb: incase some one unguards|pg|| nt|riccho: the 2!opener peempts both sids and you canot expect to do it right every time|pg|| nt|yke: if he would have drawn all the trump the defence could take the first diamond and play a club|pg|| nt|ballebodk: tx all - see you all 16,15 h|pg|| pc|h5|nt|ntmon: so an opportunity for rossard to equal the score|pg|| nt|ntmon: all boards played here, looking for last comparison|pg|| nt|ntmon: thx for watching, thx operator for fine job|pg|| nt|mcarroll: Playing 4@S in OR|pg|| nt|ntmon: see you all next round |pg|| nt|ntmon: bye|pg|| nt|yke: declarer would run out of trumps|pg|| pc|hK|nt|tihana: vwdone to avoid heart fit |pg|| pc|hT|nt|oosb: right Baard|pg|| pc|d6|pg|| nt|andreasw: 3nt bid|pg|| nt|eamongall: will get them a few VPs but still 25 for Monaco |pg|| pc|sT|nt|danilo1: great play by Balicki-Zmudzinski ... have been pleasure to watch|pg|| nt|danilo1: Thanks all|pg|| pc|s6|nt|mamos: West competed aggressively over 2@d|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|ntmon: 4@S is questionable because if S did not opened 2@S, she is around 7 HCP and implied bad @S suit|pg|| nt|viren169: thks all|pg|| pc|d4|pg|| mc|10|nt|snorre: see you all|pg|| nt|mamos: ty all|pg|| nt|mamos: ty op|pg|| nt|psyck: 4@s instead of 4@h had no chance other room last deal|pg|| nt|inonli: thx all|pg|| nt|yke: BZ did really well in this match|pg|| pg||