vg|C EC 2011 Open Teams Swiss _,3_7,I,1,10,Netherlands White,0,Israel Mongos,0| rs|1NS=,2SW=,3SW=,4HN-1,4SS+1,4SS+1,3SEx=,5HN-4,4DS+1,3NN+3,2NE+2,3NE=,4SE-2,4SE-2,3NS=,4DS-1,3NW-1,3CN-3,2NW-2,1HE+1| pn|Jansma,Bareket,Paulissen,Lengy,ISRAELI,VERHEES JR,PADON,PROOIJEN|pg|| qx|o1|st||md|3ST65HKQ7DT43CKT73,SAK982H854DA7C842,SQ3HA932DQJ865CA5,SJ74HJT6DK92CQJ96|sv|o|mb|1D|mb|p|nt|ballebodk: Goodmorning all & welcome|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s8|pc|sQ|pc|s4|pc|s6|pg|| nt|ballebodk: normal lead, but now declarer gets his 7th trick |pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|dA|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s7|mc|7|pg|| qx|c1|st||md|3ST65HKQ7DT43CKT73,SAK982H854DA7C842,SQ3HA932DQJ865CA5,SJ74HJT6DK92CQJ96|sv|o|nt|Vugraphzfb: But she may be getting a little tired :)|pg|| nt|henryb: have you taken a session off, Jan?|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: Weichsel asks "what's your opening bid style?" B & R: "light - we open most 11's and some 10's. Weichsel: "you open balanced 11?" "some, not all"|pg|| nt|vugraphpl4: hello, they are in the middle of a board, we will skip after they finish|pg|| nt|stc: good morning|pg|| nt|hawe45: Morning|pg|| nt|hawe45: Looks like one down...|pg|| nt|baardolav: Hello all|pg|| nt|blum1956: hi all|pg|| mb|1D|nt|ntmon: this match brings 5th and 7th team in actual standings|pg|| mb|p|nt|ppiglett: Hello all|pg|| nt|kista: Hi all|pg|| nt|danilo1: Hi all|pg|| mb|1N|nt|ntmon: assuming both pairs use Polish club as a base system|pg|| nt|baardolav: Second session, 14 boards|pg|| nt|kirp: Hello y'all|pg|| nt|Walddk7: Welcome Martin and Danilo|pg|| mb|2S|nt|kit: hi everybody|pg|| nt|hajru: Morning all|pg|| nt|andreasw: hi all|pg|| nt|riccho: Hello everyone; hope we see an exciting eound here :)|pg|| nt|riccho: round |pg|| nt|danilo1: Hi all|pg|| nt|gites: Hello|pg|| nt|odysseus69: good moring to everyone who gives up the chance of a lazy Sunday to watch what should be some good bridge|pg|| mb|p|nt|henryb: Hi Kit|pg|| mb|p|nt|kit: Boyd chose to make light response|pg|| nt|baardolav: Hey Andreas|pg|| mb|p|nt|kit: Double is support double|pg|| nt|hawe45: ... - not now|pg|| nt|stc: Most E will open 2@s, giving the good lead|pg|| nt|hajru: Welcome to the quarter finals of the european mixed|pg|| nt|Walddk1: Round of 32 rather|pg|| nt|andreasw: hi Baard:-)|pg|| nt|stc: good morning|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|tihana: hi everyone, fast start!|pg|| nt|ntmon: welcome to last set of Swiss stage of Mixed Teams, Euro 2011, Poznan|pg|| nt|Walddk7: also welcome to Yuval|pg|| nt|kirp: 3N works here if you can guess the @D layout|pg|| nt|odysseus69: ev eryone now bids at every excuse|pg|| pc|d2|nt|henryb: and pass is "I don't have much"|pg|| nt|ntmon: X show 15+ with @c|pg|| nt|Walddk7: Welcome to Markku Pekkinen|pg|| nt|ntmon: N believes in 7 @C quick tricks, an Ace and trick in dummy for her free bid|pg|| nt|runnerup: hi all|pg|| nt|ntmon: hi Markku|pg|| nt|tihana: hi everybody!|pg|| nt|ntmon: 5th and 6th team of actual standings meet here|pg|| nt|vugraphpl4: http://b.poznan2011.pl/mxt/swleaderb.html|pg|| nt|ntmon: hi everyone|pg|| nt|ntmon: quiet board for starter|pg|| nt|Walddk1: 2 segments o 14 boards|pg|| nt|ppiglett: The mandatory trump lead|pg|| nt|yuval10: hello all :) Back from Poznan just 3 hours ago, was a wonderful time|pg|| nt|kista: @h lead may give a clue to drop the stiff @dK |pg|| nt|kirp: After @Hs are cashed, it should be easy|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dA|pg|| nt|kit: 3NT cold -- they should get there -- probably 3@H from Lair, 3NT from Weishel|pg|| nt|kit: 3@C conservative -- now Weichsel has a problem|pg|| nt|henryb: Lair has a problem|pg|| nt|henryb: I would have tried 2N as Weichsel|pg|| nt|kit: sorry, had that backwards -- missed a bid|pg|| nt|kit: I agree Henry, Weichsel could have tried 2NT|pg|| nt|henryb: we are all sleepy: earlier Kerri Sanborn tried to analyze a hand played counter-clockwise|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: That would be a new sort of bridge, wouldn't it? Counter-clockwise play - maybe clockwise on even numbered boards and counter-clockwise on odd?|pg|| nt|baardolav: The bidding is near the limits now all ways and ended in 3@d NS|pg|| nt|mamos: rehi|pg|| nt|kirp: hi everyone, looks like a simle 3N to make|pg|| nt|odysseus69: 2spades now a lucky make and small gain for Netherlands whose teams are all coloured|pg|| pc|sA|nt|runnerup: if you guess hearts 5 @d makes ew but difficult to bid|pg|| nt|MarekW: http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg|| nt|snorre: Hi all and welcome to 2nd RR, EU Poznan|pg|| nt|danilo1: surprised Cezary did not try 3NT |pg|| nt|eamongall: East West are good enough to be known in many places as simply Z&B |pg|| nt|danilo1: that would be down since South has nat @H lead|pg|| pc|s3|nt|kit: Auction started exactly same way, but South bid 2NT and cold game was reached|pg|| nt|jaapfr: gm all|pg|| nt|danilo1: A and @C|pg|| pc|s4|nt|andreasw: 5 @d makes but not to bid:-)|pg|| nt|baardolav: Two single red kings onside|pg|| pc|s6|pg|| nt|riccho: hi everybody; hope to see some exciting boards here|pg|| nt|mamos: a nice easy 3Nt while you all settle down get your drinks organised settle the cat down or whatever|pg|| pc|sK|nt|runnerup: so this is good save anyway |pg|| nt|ntmon: 3@D showed fit but @CQ seems useless, so no further interest by E|pg|| nt|snorre: Running score all matches: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/orrrunda2.html|pg|| nt|snorre: 1st Round: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/orrleaderb.html|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|kit: 9 of diamonds discouraging, so likely will find heart shift to hold to 4.|pg|| pc|s7|nt|baardolav: yes 5@d make doubledummy, find the single @d king|pg|| pc|s5|pg|| pc|c2|nt|tihana: nice lead directing 3@C|pg|| nt|jaapfr: 9 tricks for sure|pg|| nt|hajru: This looks like a cold 3NT. |pg|| nt|stc: not yet home|pg|| pc|c5|nt|henryb: The drawback to responding with Boyd's hand is the few hands where it goes 1@d-1@h-2N-P-P-X|pg|| nt|snorre: Hi all and welcome to 1st round Robin EU from Poznan, Poland. |pg|| pc|cQ|nt|kit: pretty rare to get doubled in 2NT Henry|pg|| nt|henryb: the advantage is that sometimes the opponents miss a game|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: Weichsel went to the bathroom while he was dummy so we're now waiting for him |pg|| nt|henryb: There was a creative player in NY by the name of Larry Edwards who believed strongly that the auctions 2N-P-P and 1X-1Y-2N-P-P should always be doubled|pg|| nt|baardolav: 3@d should make easaly, prob +1|pg|| nt|riccho: in the first session only the last three boards from team "Zimmermann" prevented them from being far behind|pg|| nt|danilo1: @C to qQ and @D ... promote 2 trump trick for def|pg|| pc|cK|pg|| nt|hajru: Is east mrs. Duboin? |pg|| nt|vugraphpl4: we need to shut down|pg|| nt|vugraphpl4: we will back in the moment|pg|| nt|blum1956: the best lead by Anna Gulevich, the contract must go 1 off|pg|| nt|kirp: this looks like he is playing for overtrix|pg|| pc|d4|nt|mamos: hello all|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dJ|pc|dK|pg|| nt|Walddk4: You are invisible|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Exit from BBO|pg|| nt|ntmon: welcome to everyone|pg|| nt|snorre: A strong Dutch team vs Poland. I dont know these polish players, but they are probably strong as most other polish...|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sT|nt|kastan88: hi Mark and Snorre|pg|| pc|s2|nt|danilo1: well def|pg|| pc|d5|pg|| nt|snorre: A Norwegian Team NS, against a strong italian team...|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|h4|nt|baardolav: Well done... +2 now|pg|| pc|h2|pg|| pc|dT|pc|s8|pc|d6|pc|d9|pg|| pc|c4|nt|snorre: The teams are divided in groups of 8 in the open and play a complete Round-robin of 10 boards.|pg|| pc|cA|nt|kirp: 12 trix|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c3|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h6|nt|ntmon: 5@D requires getting @H correctly|pg|| pc|h7|nt|runnerup: looks like -3 imps -ew really bid they game,but misguessed @h i think|pg|| pc|h5|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hT|nt|snorre: At the end of the Round-robin the first 3 teams from each group in the open will qualify for Swiss A and the other teams for Swiss B|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h8|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c8|pc|d8|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cT|pc|s9|pc|h9|pg|| nt|odysseus69: 1Nt was let home so 5 imps to Netherlads|pg|| nt|stc: first swing|pg|| pg|| qx|o2|st||md|4S84HQ73DAKQ54CQ86,SAJ97632HKDJ6CKJ9,SKTHAJ9864D32CT54,SQ5HT52DT987CA732|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|1S|mb|2D!|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|dQ|pc|d6|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg|| nt|ballebodk: if def shall have a chance to defeat this contract it has to be D,H,D,D to spade 9 & 10 and then declarer shall go wrong about the sp K|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hT|pc|hQ|pc|s2|pg|| pc|sA|pc|sT|pc|s5|pc|s4|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|sQ|pc|s8|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d8|pc|dK|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|h3|pc|s6|pc|h4|pc|h5|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|h6|pc|c2|pc|d4|pg|| pc|s9|pc|h9|pc|c3|pc|d5|pg|| pc|s7|pc|hJ|pc|d9|pc|c6|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c4|pc|cA|pc|c8|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|c5|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cT|pc|dT|pc|dA|pg|| pg|| qx|o3|st||md|1SAKQJHKT72DAT7C84,S2H9654DQ953CK972,ST6543HAQ8DJ62CA3,S987HJ3DK84CQJT65|sv|e|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h6|nt|ballebodk: another doll board - 3nt or 4 sp 10-11 tricks|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hJ|pc|hK|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|s7|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|h4|pc|s4|pc|s8|pg|| pc|sK|pc|c2|pc|s5|pc|s9|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d3|pc|dJ|pc|dK|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c4|pc|c7|pc|cA|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|h5|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|c5|pc|h7|pc|h9|pg|| pc|s6|pc|d4|pc|sA|pc|c9|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c3|st||md|1SAKQJHKT72DAT7C84,S2H9654DQ953CK972,ST6543HAQ8DJ62CA3,S987HJ3DK84CQJT65|sv|e|nt|kit: I think this is barely an opening bid for Boyd|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: Lair: "there must have been a better way to do that" Weichsel: "lead A of @hs earlier" Robinson: "if you lead it earlier, I'll probably make another trick - you can't ruff in with ...|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: it"|pg|| nt|mcarroll: Hi all|pg|| nt|tihana: y, and unfort you cant run to 6d from 6h|pg|| nt|jbgood: running scores: http://b.poznan2011.pl/mxt/swrunda5.html|pg|| nt|jcomyn: not a good contract obviously hands too flat|pg|| nt|andreasw: 30-28 now|pg|| nt|mamos: wel done all|pg|| nt|snorre: Open Teams Round Robin have both excellent teams, "normal" ones and teams where you and I can join... |pg|| nt|kirp: agree with you somewhat|pg|| nt|stc: very lucky decision to lert 4@h play, when you can even make 4@s on a better layout|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|nt|hawe45: But in fact, -650 is better for E/W than -620 - then they do´nt think about the 500-sacrifice|pg|| nt|stc: strange things...|pg|| nt|ntmon: perhaps now (@H partscore)|pg|| nt|tihana: 0 scores there, are they playing or what?|pg|| nt|kirp: Actually 3N by S, assuming that is forcing would be better bid|pg|| nt|mamos: but Exclusion errors are usualy more amusing -- lol for others|pg|| nt|kirp: Looks like part score, and defense issue for EW|pg|| nt|kista: A part score for EW..NS may go overboard bidding 3@H|pg|| mb|2H|an|!s|nt|ntmon: as many as 15IMP|pg|| nt|jcomyn: and the now-normal 4-1 break. seems to me these days you have to cater for a 4-1 break and bid accordibly|pg|| nt|snorre: At the end of the Round-robin the first 3 teams from each group will qualify for Swiss A and the other teams for Swiss B|pg|| nt|eamongall: EW in the closed room have suicided into 4@SX after Est doubled in this auction NOW |pg|| mb|p|nt|stc: here NS must open the @Ds quite fast|pg|| nt|danilo1: 4@S may be inetersting ... but what will be really played?|pg|| nt|jcomyn: nver get there|pg|| nt|mamos: so yes you are right snorre the standard will be varied but we have two top class teams here|pg|| nt|danilo1: I like 1@H third hand|pg|| nt|eamongall: lets see what balicki does |pg|| mb|3C|nt|hawe45: Or play themselves|pg|| nt|riccho: interesting to see, that at bd1 N opened with 1@H. An opening that even in a limited system would be hardly everybodies choice|pg|| nt|riccho: this contract is difficult to beat (but not impossible)|pg|| mb|p|nt|kit: Question is how Lair should raise here|pg|| nt|runnerup: this is 4 @s with @h guess once again ,but first you have to bid it|pg|| nt|andreasw: 4@s now for sure|pg|| nt|ppiglett: Very Baggy 4S bid with nine trick in the hand. |pg|| nt|riccho: yes but dummy has no effective trick at all|pg|| nt|kirp: maybe not anymore, EW could get into trouble|pg|| mb|3H|an|!s|nt|henryb: why wouldn't Lair raise right away?|pg|| nt|odysseus69: dare i venture "flat board"|pg|| mb|p|nt|kit: this makes more sense|pg|| nt|henryb: would 2@c be forcing here?|pg|| nt|mcarroll: EW may protect and get to a @S patrtscore?|pg|| nt|danilo1: 2@C as expected ... anyone for Dbling minors as North?|pg|| nt|jcomyn: double again|pg|| nt|chessmaste: 1@S - for the lead partner|pg|| nt|baardolav: Very light overbids|pg|| nt|andreasw: yes:-)|pg|| nt|baardolav: Not my style... |pg|| nt|andreasw: lol|pg|| nt|baardolav: need to finesse the @d Q to make|pg|| nt|baardolav: and get rid of one club from the closed hand|pg|| mb|3S|nt|kit: so will probably reach the doomed 4@S contract|pg|| nt|henryb: sorry, I missed the correction|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: Weichsel writes that 2@h = limit raise and Boyd wrote something back that isn't where I can read it|pg|| nt|riccho: @s 10 would be a nice-to-have-card at dummy|pg|| nt|snorre: I know these Norwegians. They are good, but they dont play at highest level in Noway..|pg|| nt|snorre: 4@s can maybe win here, but normal to stop in partscore...|pg|| nt|kirp: keep it simple, is a good rule for Balckwood|pg|| nt|kista: Yes EW may be overboard|pg|| mb|p|nt|ntmon: 2@S nat game-forcing|pg|| nt|danilo1: he passed, so maybe best action after pd's Rdble is to Dble ... even if made, 2m is not bad|pg|| mb|4S|nt|runnerup: looks like partscore can be made both direction perhaps |pg|| nt|jbgood: one thing I know for sure - NS will not be bothered by the last board|pg|| nt|baardolav: Calandra have some thoughts about this... Spade need to be 2-2 or H single|pg|| nt|kirp: need to lead a club i think|pg|| mb|p|nt|stc: can he guess the K@c ?|pg|| nt|hawe45: After the bidding, he might - if East shows the @D Ace|pg|| nt|stc: yes, but he will play trump before @d|pg|| nt|ntmon: in my book X over 2@D would be T/O for @H but hand not strong enough|pg|| nt|jbgood: (neither will EW:))|pg|| nt|danilo1: 3@S at least North|pg|| nt|jcomyn: and 4 from s|pg|| nt|yuval10: he's down either way|pg|| nt|kirp: maybe the 9@Ds will score|pg|| mb|p|nt|kit: Of course, it isn't 100$ clear for Boyd to continue diamonds when he leads the ace|pg|| nt|henryb: If 2N was natural, I would think that ten fifth of opener's suit would be a turnoff|pg|| nt|hawe45: Sure|pg|| nt|snorre: If south goes for games with these hands, they will go down in numbers of contracts...|pg|| nt|snorre: end with 9 tricks, I think|pg|| mb|p|nt|kit: I can picture hands where heart shift necessary. But bidding might help him.|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: Lair: "good luck"|pg|| nt|kit: They do play udca, so 6 won't be readable|pg|| nt|runnerup: yes in club system no big problems to bid,but natural not so easy |pg|| nt|ntmon: 4@S is good contract, will require get @H right|pg|| nt|odysseus69: 3H is retransfer|pg|| nt|stc: @d is missing for a decent slam|pg|| pc|c7|nt|riccho: Bd2: 4@s would have been a fairly good contract; I would expect the other tabel to be in 4@s|pg|| nt|odysseus69: 3C was super accept|pg|| nt|stc: I mean the 9@D|pg|| pc|cA|nt|eamongall: I am corrected ... Balicki ... I accidently slipped caps lock key |pg|| pc|cQ|nt|kit: Moment of truth right now|pg|| pc|c4|pg|| nt|jcomyn: aggressive|pg|| nt|jcomyn: not a good lead|pg|| nt|danilo1: well, Dble by Guido was expected ... but not sure about the lead|pg|| nt|jcomyn: making now with good guess|pg|| nt|danilo1: I still rather beleieve in down|pg|| nt|jcomyn: why look at it just play J|pg|| nt|danilo1: do not believe she can avoid 2 trump loosers as well as 2 red Aces|pg|| nt|jcomyn: maybe so|pg|| nt|jcomyn: but why the long pause when the j is mandatory|pg|| pc|s3|nt|riccho: anyone has an idea whcih system EW play? |pg|| nt|yuval10: i'd say most probably it will|pg|| nt|kista: 2 down likely... Not a great 2@d overcall|pg|| nt|yuval10: S switched nicely to @d, now a @c from N means -2|pg|| pc|s7|nt|stc: any making becuase of @h 4-2|pg|| nt|stc: anyway|pg|| nt|mcarroll: I agree|pg|| nt|mcarroll: Despite the combined 22 count this is not an easy contract - particularly on this @C lead|pg|| nt|tihana: and go down in both directions :)|pg|| nt|eamongall: Bal is maestro .... says one person :) |pg|| pc|sA|nt|tihana: hm|pg|| pc|s2|pg|| nt|mcarroll: so a lose-lose situation :)|pg|| nt|tihana: or win-win for the defence :)|pg|| nt|ppiglett: Carding for n-S very important now.|pg|| pc|sK|nt|henryb: truth and concequences|pg|| pc|c2|nt|stc: and @d frienly, 3-3 with the 10 showing up|pg|| nt|baardolav: The first hand opening... have shown K of spade, QJ of club and |pg|| pc|s4|nt|kit: he got it right -- key was Weichsel's 2NT call -- would be unlikely with doubleton diamond|pg|| pc|s8|pg|| nt|mcarroll: glass half-full, half empty??|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|baardolav: the @d Q... very well done|pg|| nt|stc: here slam makes if on oponent would have Hx in @d|pg|| pc|cK|pc|s5|nt|riccho: S ist not allowed to throw a heart|pg|| pc|s9|pg|| pc|h2|nt|hawe45: East should be 6-2-3-2 now|pg|| nt|andreasw: 10 tricks wd|pg|| nt|riccho: according to some kibs EW play some sort of polish club; 1@c is than a WK NT or medium club or strong any (some play it less than GF) |pg|| nt|blum1956: Ìàõ Êhven played for Russia many times, including the 2004 Olympiad (3th place). His partner (and wife) Anna Gulevich is 36-th rated in the rating-list (which includes men) and has ...|pg|| nt|blum1956: a Russian mixed teams wins to her credit|pg|| nt|blum1956: EW play the "Beriozka" system (based on Polish club) which is rather popular in Russia|pg|| nt|riccho: typical polish style is that the 1NT rebid after the neg. 1@d is a 18-20 BAL type of hand; with 12-14 in polish club they regularly are faking with 1@h or 1@s even with lesse than a 4carder|pg|| nt|yuval10: the Israeli team are the runner up of the previous event in San-Remo ( though Ginossar-Pachtman didn't play there )|pg|| pc|h6|nt|yuval10: after winning the Bronze medal in the last European Championship, thus representing Europe in the upcomming Bermuda Bowl...|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h3|pg|| pc|hA|nt|riccho: so I should have known EW than ... :(|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h7|pc|h4|pg|| nt|riccho: Oh she can throw one|pg|| pc|h8|nt|ntmon: surprise|pg|| nt|blum1956: 1@c is weak NT (12-14) or strong (17-18+) any|pg|| nt|danilo1: In open room, East has choosen to Dble 1@H ... after passed pd, I must say that I do not like this Dble|pg|| nt|odysseus69: would still need hearts to behave plus split diamond honours- still not great but unbiddable anyway|pg|| pc|c5|nt|runnerup: so miss guessed -1|pg|| pc|hK|nt|danilo1: West bid 2@C ... so he has 4 ... East who reopened therefore only 2 @C (possible single/double Q) - so @CJ has not been absolute mandatory ... however, good guess|pg|| pc|h9|pg|| pc|hT|nt|riccho: so without the medium club stuff in it...|pg|| pc|h5|pc|c3|nt|riccho: if partner plays @d|pg|| pc|c6|pg|| nt|ntmon: good @H return|pg|| nt|riccho: well done|pg|| nt|ppiglett: Well done. These situations can go astray. Not at this level though.|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c9|nt|blum1956: they play 2@c Precision|pg|| pc|s6|pc|cT|pg|| pc|d2|nt|riccho: I c :) |pg|| pc|d4|pc|dT|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dJ|pc|dK|nt|tihana: suboptimal defence by N in the other room|pg|| pc|dA|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d5|nt|riccho: but 16-18 Hands with long clubs are opened with? |pg|| pc|d6|pc|d8|pg|| pc|cJ|nt|jbgood: and ditto declarer play here|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|d9|pc|sT|pg|| pg|| qx|o4|st||md|2S9HAQ92DKQCAKT653,S84HKJT76DAJ85C42,SQ653H8543DT94CQ9,SAKJT72HD7632CJ87|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cA|nt|ballebodk: now ns can be in big trouble - but a very good pas from N saved the day :)|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c9|pc|c8|pg|| nt|vugraphplf: Running scores will be available shortly at http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswrunda3.html|pg|| nt|vugraphplf: Please be patient|pg|| nt|Walddk6: Welconme to Uttam|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dA|nt|ballebodk: well - if they can defeat it and i dont think they can|pg|| nt|vugraphplf: Hello|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d2|pg|| nt|uttam: good afternoon from India|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cQ|pc|c7|pc|c3|pg|| nt|Walddk6: Operator, typo in West's name Bareket|pg|| nt|Walddk6: Thanks|pg|| nt|vugraphplf: Forgive me. Fixed|pg|| pc|s3|nt|ballebodk: N could have deteafet the contract - d to the K, club to ruff in N and then d to ruff in S - now its to late :)|pg|| nt|uttam: north had a chance to beat it |pg|| pc|sT|pc|s9|pc|s4|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cK|pc|s8|nt|timb: Sorry I'm a bit late|pg|| nt|ballebodk: its a pitty for S that his pard was not awake because it was a very nice defense from him|pg|| nt|uttam: other room 5h was not axed|pg|| pc|sQ|pg|| pc|h3|pc|s2|pc|h2|pc|h6|pg|| pc|sA|pc|c5|pc|h7|pc|s5|pg|| pc|sK|pc|h9|nt|timb: That is amazing|pg|| pc|hT|pc|s6|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|d4|pg|| mc|9|nt|ballebodk: how is it possible NOT to double 5 h ?|pg|| pg|| qx|c4|st||md|2S9HAQ92DKQCAKT653,S84HKJT76DAJ85C42,SQ653H8543DT94CQ9,SAKJT72HD7632CJ87|sv|b|nt|henryb: that's why I suggested that maybe 2N should turn Lair off, not on|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: Weichsel: "I could have tried something else" Lair: "did you have 5 spades?" Weichsel: "yeah" Boyd: "3N is down 1 also"|pg|| nt|runnerup: so 200 it was a good desision to pass 1 @h|pg|| nt|ntmon: @h lead is a natural killer, takes away the entry to club tricks|pg|| nt|tihana: 15:15 after two boards|pg|| nt|yuval10: they must be considered one of the favourites for this event|pg|| nt|kista: The @H holding gives comfort for an overcall, but it also indicates a likely misfit . So staying out would have been prudent|pg|| mb|p|nt|jbgood: so all of a sudden it is all square|pg|| nt|tihana: i loove this rooom|pg|| mb|p|nt|kit: Weichsel holds the rare AK EMPTY ninth|pg|| nt|jbgood: the comeback was fast and furious|pg|| nt|kirp: 4@H here|pg|| nt|snorre: calm start on this match. An easy 4@h coming up here|pg|| mb|3S|nt|henryb: but the doubleton @d is a good sign|pg|| nt|jbgood: E probaply decided to show a major 2 suiter rather than just her spades|pg|| nt|riccho: Oh I c they lowered the req for str 1@c comparing to ploish club than.|pg|| nt|snorre: 3Nt possible to win here. |pg|| nt|mamos: not much excitement so far to be true|pg|| nt|odysseus69: 4h a bit nlucky|pg|| nt|stc: I just wanted to underline how important the spots are(10, even 9), and impossible to investigate|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|nt|tihana: i think both 3n and 5 cl make, yes?|pg|| nt|kirp: W is frisky, it seems|pg|| nt|kirp: 2 or 3@Hs with S ' hand|pg|| nt|yuval10: 2NT must be inv+ and N will decline|pg|| nt|odysseus69: north might sit for 3Sx|pg|| mb|4H|nt|snorre: Nice layout for EW...|pg|| mb|p|nt|stc: NS may make games in both majors with some good guessing|pg|| nt|runnerup: brave 2 ! and + once again to ns|pg|| nt|tihana: @H and m i guess|pg|| nt|jbgood: NS have 29 hcp combined - and EW are already in 3@hs :)|pg|| nt|jcomyn: polish style?|pg|| nt|danilo1: looks like NS playing kind of Polish @C |pg|| nt|andreasw: looks like one down|pg|| nt|blum1956: 1@c starting from good 16|pg|| nt|kirp: ??|pg|| nt|stc: a smart tactical bid 3@s|pg|| nt|odysseus69: excellent 3rd seat action|pg|| mb|4S|nt|kit: Looked like it would be a dull board, but 4@S was doubled in other room |pg|| nt|ntmon: 1 NT upgraded? but 3NT normal contract|pg|| mb|p|an| |nt|runnerup: this loks like 3nt but even here 14+11 -some pairs might miss this game -clubs all well and dimonds badly .but 9 tricks|pg|| nt|ntmon: due to lucky @C position, 9 tricks ready without needing @D|pg|| nt|ntmon: do we agree with 2@H or prefer negative X passed out?|pg|| nt|stc: will W X all just take the money in silence ?|pg|| mb|5H|nt|henryb: If you play fantan around the corner, that is a really good suit|pg|| nt|ntmon: 3NT best but North could not know about @H position|pg|| nt|tihana: hmm, auken goes strong|pg|| nt|mcsd: hello all|pg|| nt|yuval10: even though 3@s looks like making with 2@h losers, 1@c and 1@d, it seem like W will get a trump promotion|pg|| nt|kista: 3@s is an easy make|pg|| nt|yuval10: not really|pg|| mb|p|nt|stc: now he will X :)|pg|| mb|p|nt|riccho: how comfortable to commentate french players. every bid is cristal clear here |pg|| nt|mamos: never refuse an invitation|pg|| nt|mamos: 3@h for me|pg|| nt|kirp: 11 or 12 trix|pg|| mb|p|nt|riccho: xcept sometimes... In the first segment there was a 2@hX contract, which succeeded but shouldnt|pg|| nt|mamos: but close|pg|| nt|danilo1: Dble is evidently agreement ... this is my best suit - and nothing more|pg|| nt|odysseus69: I dont know much about this Israeli team but I guess they are young - the 4S bid indicates hopefulness of youth|pg|| pc|sK|nt|stc: they need at least one good guess in @h@s|pg|| nt|hawe45: If West later shows the @S Ace, East must have the @H Queen|pg|| nt|hawe45: That´s NO guess|pg|| nt|tihana: making 4?|pg|| pc|s9|nt|mcarroll: proving yet again that bridge is a bidder's game|pg|| nt|kirp: thats what you get when you underlead A, no one can figure it out|pg|| pc|s8|nt|jbgood: seems as if NS should stay out of slams this set|pg|| pc|s6|pg|| nt|hawe45: Another @C is correct defence|pg|| nt|hawe45: Why help declarer?|pg|| nt|kista: yes the @s9 gets promoted|pg|| nt|danilo1: * * promisess no values or so .. just showing pd his best spot|pg|| nt|eamongall: ah @D jack coming down |pg|| nt|eamongall: its @HA now or goodbye |pg|| nt|eamongall: Zed hardly gets this one |pg|| nt|eamongall: a good pairs cash says Ian from Belgium |pg|| nt|danilo1: well ... cash @HA as well ... if @S is partners best ... it's now or never|pg|| nt|odysseus69: time for West to double but this is the week of the non penalty double|pg|| nt|stc: I don't understand W's pass|pg|| nt|stc: he may loose a big swing with his pass|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dQ|pc|dA|nt|hawe45: Might have killed K-10-x|pg|| nt|snorre: If EW play 15-17NT's, 2NT with 10 is hard.. At most 24 hcp. East liked his Q109 @h's|pg|| pc|d4|pg|| pc|d5|nt|blum1956: which does not help to buy a makeable contract this time))))|pg|| pc|d9|nt|stc: A@s KQ@c and Q@h = 11|pg|| nt|ntmon: going for @D seems percentage action - bad luck |pg|| nt|runnerup: last board was plyed in 2nt inspite off 5-4 in @s but 180 was +6 imps because missguess here in 4 @s|pg|| nt|mcarroll: I prefer the neg X which may be passed out, but it may also lead to 3NT |pg|| nt|ntmon: seems that Auken explained herself the absence of 3NT bid by N as positive signal (no stopper, no vastage) |pg|| pc|d2|nt|riccho: In Bd. 2 I was wrong with my prediction (they reached 4@s but they didnt play it) because EW found the "sacrifice" in 5@h |pg|| nt|riccho: put away the "" from last sentence... |pg|| pc|dK|pg|| nt|danilo1: not good guess in @S|pg|| nt|mcsd: 2 @h loosers, 1 @D and @C, loong @d suit bothers me|pg|| nt|kista: after the @h lead|pg|| nt|odysseus69: I am told that we are indeed watching young Israeli players|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hT|nt|stc: not now|pg|| nt|hawe45: There is a rule: Only ONE opponent can have @S Ace...|pg|| nt|runnerup: y a common convention helps to bid if partner doesn't delive that south bid his cards allready |pg|| pc|h3|nt|tihana: looks like missunderstanding on board 2 in other room|pg|| pc|d3|pg|| nt|mamos: declarer has nine tricks as everthing is well placed i back him to make|pg|| nt|mamos: its not easy and these discards inconvenience him|pg|| nt|snorre: These hands are easier to play for us kib's. We see that all cards are well placed. Versace doesn't...|pg|| pc|s4|nt|stc: and the other the Q¨h|pg|| nt|runnerup: this time you make yhis anyway ,because clubs ao well|pg|| nt|ntmon: S doesn't have an entry for his high @D |pg|| nt|baardolav: one down it will be I belive|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s7|nt|danilo1: but logical ... after 1@C and 1@H by north and 2@S pass by South, more probable South has 3@S than North|pg|| nt|stc: S should thank W now|pg|| pc|h9|pg|| nt|runnerup: east very much afraid ,but relieved in the end|pg|| nt|riccho: @sQ|pg|| nt|mcsd: N may suffer @D overruff or 9@S of trump promotion |pg|| pc|c3|nt|ntmon: last train :)|pg|| pc|c2|nt|blum1956: no entries to collect everything|pg|| nt|riccho: this hand: fairly normal to reach game; the EW hands are not very suitable placed|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c7|pg|| nt|mcarroll: Which may make - there are 9 tricks available but it is difficult for declarer to untangle the entries required|pg|| nt|baardolav: Gotart is not intending to do any mistakes and cashes the tricks|pg|| nt|yuval10: really 8@s ?|pg|| pc|dT|nt|jcomyn: and the poor-aul club suit gets buried again|pg|| nt|andreasw: 41-28 to Pony now|pg|| nt|mamos: only experts should try this :)|pg|| nt|mamos: lol|pg|| pc|d7|pc|hQ|pc|d8|pg|| nt|runnerup: east relives in the end-looked bad for her point of yiew|pg|| nt|mcsd: smith echo i think |pg|| nt|yuval10: declarer could've made it now by ruffing two @d's high with the QJ|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c4|nt|jbgood: still it would be a make if E had Qxx in @d|pg|| nt|ntmon: perhaps N should have doubled as warning signal|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c8|pg|| nt|riccho: Now W will be endplayed for "only" two off|pg|| pc|cK|nt|danilo1: NS can make 3@C ... but thk by passing 2@S - they will score more|pg|| nt|odysseus69: no double no trouble is the theme of the event|pg|| pc|h6|nt|jbgood: now she knows that is not the case|pg|| nt|stc: I was thinking that X was forbidden only in mixed :)|pg|| pc|h8|nt|Walddk7: Running scores at http://b.poznan2011.pl/mxt/swrunda3.html|pg|| pc|cJ|pg|| nt|baardolav: no squeeze, and two down for Sementa|pg|| nt|kista: no chance now|pg|| pc|s5|nt|yuval10: but now after cashing the Q@s it's back to -1|pg|| pc|s2|pc|hA|pc|dJ|pg|| nt|jcomyn: one thing fascinates me. it appears the assumption is when you open 1C you dont have clubs|pg|| pc|c5|mc|7|nt|odysseus69: about 12 years ago when I was in Israel I saw the schools had bridge on the time table and I have been expecting a series of good teams - t|pg|| pg|| qx|o5|st||md|3S4HT5432DAQ76532C,SKQ87HQ98DT9CQT42,SAJ52HAJ7D84CK953,ST963HK6DKJCAJ876|sv|n|mb|1C!|an|Polish Club|mb|p|mb|1D!|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2C!|nt|uttam: lucky 4h/5d , but cant reach it|pg|| mb|2D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|3S|nt|uttam: well well - -- ! may get to see 4h |pg|| mb|4D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sK|nt|uttam: east tried its best for NS to reach game|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s4|pg|| pc|d8|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d9|pg|| nt|ballebodk: i dont know if i agree with N last p - shouldnt 3 h show 5 hearts ?|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dT|pc|d4|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h9|pc|hJ|pc|hK|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c5|st||md|3S4HT5432DAQ76532C,SKQ87HQ98DT9CQT42,SAJ52HAJ7D84CK953,ST963HK6DKJCAJ876|sv|n|nt|henryb: Fantan is a game where you build suits from some start card. You can only play adjacent cards. Around the corner would mean that a suit could be built 3-2-A-K|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: Boyd: "AK empty ninth" |pg|| nt|stc: on 23(5@c) NS never entered the auction !!|pg|| nt|stc: and let EW play 3@s|pg|| nt|ntmon: 3@H made but we feel EW could get out more of the hand|pg|| nt|blum1956: Nord should have taken a spade finesse (he did not know that trumps were 4-1)|pg|| nt|kirp: that should tie or take the lead in the match!|pg|| nt|mamos: over and over again I tell learners to never do it but there is always the temptation and it usually doesn't work|pg|| nt|eamongall: look like a quiet 1NT in the EW now |pg|| mb|1C|nt|runnerup: now @h slam|pg|| nt|jcomyn: i dont believe it no 4-1 break|pg|| nt|snorre: partscore @s's for NS...|pg|| mb|p|nt|andreasw: 3 NT?|pg|| nt|Walddk1: Welcome to Pierre Schmidt|pg|| nt|eamongall: sorry NS I mean |pg|| nt|odysseus69: I am told that N orth may be a current world junior champion|pg|| mb|1D!|nt|mcsd: i wouldnt open n hand, what do you think|pg|| mb|p|nt|mcarroll: Dont think it makes?|pg|| nt|yuval10: normal opening |pg|| mb|1N|an| |nt|kit: Ugly misfit -- will probably get to 3NT, but might arrive in 4@S|pg|| nt|tihana: why not?|pg|| nt|chmitty: bonjour :)|pg|| nt|kista: 3N for NS|pg|| nt|mcsd: im more archaic|pg|| mb|p|nt|riccho: welcome! |pg|| nt|blum1956: If they try to reach a slam and stop in 5@c that may be in danger|pg|| nt|kista: 4@s also on|pg|| nt|eamongall: they have more points even if EW got NTy hands |pg|| nt|danilo1: Spec suggestion to lead @SJ (and East overtakes and play @H) is only a dream ... would be 13 tricks ... since small @S on J is no option|pg|| mb|2C!|nt|henryb: 6N by N is cold on the lie of the cards|pg|| nt|kit: 3NT by Lair seems clear|pg|| nt|runnerup: par looks like 9 in ! ,but |pg|| nt|ntmon: N/s again off the hook|pg|| nt|mcarroll: Michaels cuebid - promising both Majors, not my style with only an 8 count vulnerable|pg|| nt|andreasw: club lead here|pg|| nt|kirp: y pard|pg|| mb|p|nt|henryb: both minors 3-3, @dK onside, @s suit can't be misguessed if led|pg|| nt|stc: NS will play game here|pg|| nt|runnerup: not so easy to bid ,but now known to be in rigth hand if bid|pg|| nt|mamos: do we know who is thinking?|pg|| nt|vugraphpl4: W|pg|| nt|kirp: no dble no trouble|pg|| mb|2D!|nt|danilo1: Guido will probably not lead @C (beliebve @H)|pg|| nt|mamos: lots of matches have imp scores of 1-0 or 2-1 right now after 4 or so boards|pg|| nt|kirp: except it 100 a trick|pg|| nt|kirp: down 2, looks like|pg|| mb|p|nt|kit: Lair looking for more it seems|pg|| nt|ntmon: pass over 2@D and X later will be for penalty|pg|| nt|tihana: only a heart|pg|| nt|chmitty: in french standard, they are not in slam zone|pg|| nt|chmitty: so ...|pg|| nt|riccho: agree with 1@c? I find it peculiar that a french player opens v-vs this hand|pg|| nt|riccho: another edgy contract|pg|| mb|3H!|nt|kit: I'm surprised Weichsel didn't bid 3@S, unless he feared that would show 3.|pg|| nt|henryb: Probably does not expect partner to have such robust majors for 3@d|pg|| nt|ntmon: S afraid of T/O X expecting to be passed out|pg|| nt|tihana: 2N by W would be scrambling?|pg|| nt|chmitty: since the 21th century, they made some progress|pg|| nt|mamos: it seemed unlikely that North had anything to consider :)|pg|| nt|eamongall: seems they played 1NT EW in open room as they got there first ...points 20-230|pg|| nt|stc: not easy to bid S's hand|pg|| mb|p|nt|ntmon: i would say|pg|| nt|jcomyn: what happend the tried and trusted longest and strongest|pg|| nt|snorre: South can be much weaker, so west thought of entering the bidding...|pg|| nt|mamos: South busy thanking North for his dummy:)|pg|| nt|snorre: when I have D108x behind declearer and pd has a strong NT, I stand on table doubling!!!|pg|| nt|eamongall: 20-20 |pg|| mb|3N|nt|kit: If they do stumble into slam, a lot will ride on the lead|pg|| nt|henryb: and it will depend on whether they play in a minor or NT|pg|| nt|kit: I think they are in slam after this Q-bid|pg|| nt|mcarroll: Interesting - on the previous hand 3@H went down one in OR|pg|| nt|mamos: 1NT balancing not necessary strong|pg|| nt|snorre: even a weak one...|pg|| nt|snorre: 1NT 4th hand: 11-14 it seams. |pg|| nt|kirp: also helps pard on defense, knowing you have something|pg|| mb|p|nt|stc: friendly @s and blocked @ds help a lot|pg|| nt|blum1956: The diamond lead probably was killing, but the spade looks more natural|pg|| nt|odysseus69: South meant to show 5 hearts - dont think N orth got message|pg|| nt|stc: 3NT good enough with such friendly @ds|pg|| nt|odysseus69: 3N T ok if unlikely|pg|| mb|p|nt|kit: people are talking 6NT, but they aren't getting there|pg|| nt|hawe45: Bu @C might be 3-3|pg|| nt|runnerup: yes can be rigth to x some caises,but north passed hand so pass looks ok|pg|| nt|jbgood: we dont know their agreements...|pg|| nt|ntmon: definitely not a low-scoring match|pg|| nt|baardolav: this should make easaly... NS will have the Q of @d 2 club tricks... and maybe Q of spade|pg|| mb|p|nt|stc: 6@h can be made DD|pg|| nt|odysseus69: this is a large piece of good luck for N/S|pg|| nt|vugraphpl4: E called dir|pg|| nt|stc: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswleaderb.html it's all I have|pg|| nt|odysseus69: wrong explanation but it doesnt affect the result - N/S just got lucky|pg|| pc|c7|nt|andreasw: no q@s|pg|| nt|ppiglett: I really like 4D - showing source of tricks for pard and giving help to judge the hand if ops save at fav vul.|pg|| nt|stc: On Bo 4 EW were allowud to play and make 3@SX, so Verhees lost 8 IMP instead of winning 8|pg|| pc|h2|nt|stc: playing on @s looks better, the 10 may be short|pg|| nt|snorre: This will end up with 9 tricks|pg|| nt|kirp: this was a nice chance for EW|pg|| nt|kirp: Dummy's red 9's are now important|pg|| nt|snorre: Board 14: Lost of nice rele-bidding in closed room. Ending i 5@h, told opp the lead and down one for -11.. |pg|| nt|mamos: Dutch NS got to 5@h on 14 and after a @D lead lost three tricks and ten imps maybe too much exitement|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|kit: Lair went conservative|pg|| nt|henryb: we are looking at 4 hands, Kit. I am surprised they got pat 3N|pg|| nt|ntmon: 8 tricks for declarer|pg|| nt|ntmon: W in other rooms was more dynamic|pg|| nt|runnerup: yes 8 only -beacuse @h ruff so some chances to make 9 in clubs so-|pg|| nt|baardolav: well even easier... now I would like +2 |pg|| pc|cK|pg|| nt|kit: 5@D is really a pretty poor contract compared to 3NT, but it will make|pg|| nt|kit: I agree Henry. Both took unclear views -- Weichsel might have bid 2@C instead of 3@C, Lair might have bid 3NT instead of 3@D, and Weichsel might have bid 3@S instead of 4@C.|pg|| nt|danilo1: no entries for @C lead ... but on any lead, declarer has enought time to develop 2@S tricks - so allways making ... |pg|| nt|jcomyn: and like the club, d opening denies d suit by the looks of things|pg|| nt|danilo1: good choice 3NT instead 4@H, may be swing board|pg|| pc|d4|nt|hawe45: Tries the @C-suit, but wins through the @S|pg|| nt|hawe45: This seems wrong. Try @C 3-3 - and then @S. By starting with @D, opponents might just take their 5 tricks|pg|| nt|hawe45: starting with @S... sry|pg|| nt|runnerup: 4 spades you seems to have too bad suit and too much defensive values|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|d9|pg|| nt|kirp: still looks like down 3 or maybe more|pg|| nt|kirp: S went quietly in OR, passed 1N |pg|| pc|dA|nt|kirp: now maybe more|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d8|nt|mcarroll: depends on how @H are played - but no real choice - so yes it makes|pg|| nt|andreasw: rest now:-) |pg|| nt|mamos: yes just thinking I might organise coffee :)|pg|| nt|kista: South's X of 1@h is interesting ...Dont know what their methods are|pg|| pc|dK|pg|| nt|stc: start with @s is normal, the A@S may be an entry for @d|pg|| nt|hawe45: Never seen so bad play - with such a good result. Now even an end-play against West|pg|| nt|eamongall: Open Teams restarting tomorrow morning at 10am CET ...thats means 9am in Ireland |pg|| mc|12|nt|odysseus69: the pass of 3Sx looks reasonable - the failure to double 5H was poor|pg|| pg|| qx|o6|st||md|4S8652H94DAK65CJ63,SQJT9HA63DJ932C72,S743HKQ875DQ8CQ85,SAKHJT2DT74CAKT94|sv|e|nt|uttam: low@h from ajx would have generated extra trick|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C|an| |mb|p|mb|2D|an| |mb|p|nt|timb: That's exactly what I felt about 3H. Also, it would have been nice to have been balance back into a making vulnerable game|pg|| mb|2N|an| |mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s6|nt|uttam: @H9 lead would have been great start for defence|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s7|pc|sA|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s2|pc|sT|pc|s4|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d6|pc|d9|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hJ|pc|h4|pc|h3|pg|| nt|ballebodk: sagde du ikke at du kunne ungoofe eller sådan noget - det er kun min chat på BBO jeg snakker om :) |pg|| pc|c9|pc|c6|pc|c2|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|h9|pc|hA|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s3|pc|d7|pc|s5|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|h5|pc|hT|pc|s8|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c5|pc|cA|pc|c3|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cJ|mc|10|pg|| qx|c6|st||md|4S8652H94DAK65CJ63,SQJT9HA63DJ932C72,S743HKQ875DQ8CQ85,SAKHJT2DT74CAKT94|sv|e|nt|Vugraphzfb: Weichsel: "ugh" Robinson: "did you have a better contract?" Weichsel: "yes, an imp or two better ... good lead"|pg|| nt|henryb: but it would only have turned a quick hand into a slow one|pg|| nt|hawe45: @H-lead would have been interesting|pg|| nt|ntmon: something N has to have finally|pg|| nt|tihana: i got some comments regarding w 1nt, i think it is ok, you?|pg|| nt|danilo1: @S9 is entry too late ... since @C is then 9th trick ... so declarer would on @C lead need only 1 @S trick|pg|| nt|jcomyn: righto all|pg|| nt|andreasw: 13 tricks from the very beginning:-)|pg|| nt|snorre: 10 tricks?|pg|| nt|kirp: ucky, it could have been worse with dble card|pg|| nt|yuval10: 12 imps for Bridgeplus when the Israeli pair landed in 4@h|pg|| nt|yuval10: X -2|pg|| nt|kista: Many kibs tell me double is 4+@s and 1@s would be denying @s|pg|| mb|1N|nt|stc: as I said, starting with @c may establish the 5th trick for defense with @d 4-3|pg|| nt|andreasw: 41-35|pg|| nt|snorre: First IMP to Norway maybe?|pg|| mb|p|nt|kit: Will certainly get to 3NT, but if overcall gets heart lead things could get interesting|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: Lair: "did you have a jump shift partner?" Weichsel: "a light jump shift" Lair: "very light" Weichsel: "not really, because I made it because of the spots" Boyd: "true"|pg|| nt|ntmon: no problem with 1NT|pg|| nt|jcomyn: i did say maybe|pg|| nt|mamos: imp rather tha imps snorre?|pg|| nt|eamongall: +80 and +90 means 5 imps for Austria ... this austrian team are no mugs either ... I think some of them won Bonn Teams a month ago or so |pg|| mb|2C|nt|runnerup: well defended ,but board still cost you 9 because your team mates were too aggressive|pg|| nt|runnerup: slam zone -this time @c easyest|pg|| nt|baardolav: polish club from N|pg|| nt|andreasw: yes|pg|| nt|snorre: I said "IMP", didn't I ? :)|pg|| nt|mamos: it was certainly ucky|pg|| nt|mamos: :)|pg|| mb|p|nt|mamos: :)|pg|| nt|kista: This agreement can land them in a spot when EW preempt or compete|pg|| mb|2D|nt|baardolav: is this ending in 6nt? on 32 hp...|pg|| nt|andreasw: 6 clubs makes... but not easy to bid|pg|| nt|riccho: and 2@h from W is no common bid here either|pg|| nt|vugraphpl4: sorry|pg|| nt|ppiglett: True - I play against those sort of hoodwinkers too|pg|| nt|kirp: usually bad to trap with a 8-card fit at 2-level, but here is an exception|pg|| mb|p|nt|jbgood: not the worst bid I have seen...|pg|| nt|ppiglett: Surely South didn't pass. Undo?|pg|| mb|2N|nt|kit: Tough choice for Robinson on opening lead, particularly in light of 1@C opening|pg|| nt|henryb: I guess he is cold now|pg|| nt|kit: he is? are you sure?|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: Weichsel: "I hope you're not banking on my club suit"|pg|| nt|henryb: 3@h, 3@d and 3 black tricks|pg|| nt|kit: does he really have 3 hearts?|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: Weichsel has gone out of the room and there's no one to turn the dummy - Robinson suggests I ask one of you to do it please|pg|| nt|ntmon: 7 or 8 tricks doesn't mean a difference|pg|| nt|runnerup: here ew has to stay low 1 nt looks ok|pg|| nt|tihana: would y bid sth else?|pg|| nt|baardolav: 6nt too|pg|| nt|baardolav: North hand|pg|| nt|riccho: 2NT nat.? vs an unlimited opener of 1@c looks a bit... well ....|pg|| nt|chmitty: hummm ... indeed|pg|| nt|mcsd: pass woulfd be exciting|pg|| nt|yuval10: now NS can be in troubles here|pg|| mb|p|nt|tihana: strange bid 3cl, should south show strong balance?|pg|| nt|jcomyn: a David Bird deal-em-again hand|pg|| nt|andreasw: yes - good spades...|pg|| nt|ppiglett: No prob |pg|| nt|eamongall: Is it 4 teams from each group going thru to last 64 ...and 4 extra teams from somewhere ? |pg|| mb|3N|nt|ntmon: game should be reached|pg|| nt|mamos: defence should prevail here|pg|| nt|mamos: trump leads are best |pg|| nt|snorre: I like to play Michaels in this positions as "Weak or strong". NS have no idea of how strong (or weak) pd is|pg|| nt|snorre: If strong, have to bid once more. Then North can bid 2@h and end there...|pg|| mb|p|nt|stc: misfit but enough points|pg|| nt|hawe45: Good lead - for declarer|pg|| nt|stc: and the most friendly lead|pg|| nt|ntmon: multi-purpose club and transfer responses in use|pg|| nt|mamos: 2NT = showing three card Spades support?|pg|| nt|kirp: and good raise|pg|| mb|p|nt|stc: now many tricks|pg|| nt|ntmon: NS helped opps to devaluate their hands here|pg|| nt|jbgood: this may well be a push|pg|| nt|andreasw: 2@h relay probably|pg|| nt|kirp: good lead, low from dblton|pg|| nt|snorre: lots of work to do here for Muller...|pg|| nt|yuval10: but the cards are well-places for them|pg|| mb|p|nt|henryb: I think so|pg|| nt|ntmon: X for penalty|pg|| nt|andreasw: 46-35|pg|| nt|kista: On board 23 NS got socked for 500 after N raised 1@h to 2|pg|| pc|dA|nt|kit: okay, now he is cold|pg|| nt|hawe45: Especially, if E/W duck another @D|pg|| nt|runnerup: well north wked up -is it right ? -perhaps -200 |pg|| nt|andreasw: 4 NT quantitative ?|pg|| nt|riccho: np; this operating stuff is very difficult to do|pg|| pc|d2|nt|ppiglett: The singelton ten fo spades is a huge card. A little luck for N-S.|pg|| nt|kirp: things lie well, but still handling problems|pg|| nt|mamos: yep not great as cards lie|pg|| pc|d8|nt|runnerup: jump in clubs doent look the way to desripe this hand all thought it make it easy to bid 6--but is it forcing even|pg|| nt|chmitty: next door, it will start 1@c 1@d 1@s but what next ? 2NT 3@d 3NT ... or 2NT 3NT|pg|| nt|riccho: and the lead of the @sJ is sth I wouldnt have found either|pg|| nt|chmitty: in any case I suspect they will end up in 3NT|pg|| pc|d7|pg|| nt|eamongall: ah beaten by Poland in final of German Teams |pg|| nt|eamongall: anybody know what is 1@D overcall ...maybe defence to 1@C |pg|| nt|danilo1: someting strange with 1@D ... or 3@D ... did Adam really choosen to risk 1@D .. or Cesary forgot some agreement?|pg|| nt|vugraphpl4: 1 @c hasnt been alerted|pg|| nt|vugraphpl4: EW called director|pg|| nt|danilo1: Specs said 1@D is 12-15 & 4-4 M (looks like) |pg|| nt|eamongall: real diamonds or a12-14point dbl from kibiters |pg|| nt|eamongall: both majors 4+4+ or natural ... another kib|pg|| nt|danilo1: well in any case - some missunderstanding ... possible also 1@D is NAT or 4-4 M .. in that case, East's 3@D is pass/correct|pg|| nt|eamongall: I kibitz Adam and Cezary a lot and they do not make these kinds of bidding errors.... from cc469 |pg|| nt|eamongall: never ... their system they can sleepwalk through ...cc469 |pg|| nt|stc: The winnig defense was hard to find|pg|| pc|h4|nt|henryb: How do you prevent 3 heart tricks, Kit?|pg|| nt|hawe45: Oh - was´nt ducked|pg|| nt|andreasw: 6 clubs now - but why not bid 4 @d?|pg|| nt|baardolav: 750 on stake... pass or 6@c|pg|| nt|andreasw: what is 2@c on 1 @c??|pg|| nt|baardolav: natural I belive|pg|| nt|chmitty: I like @sJ|pg|| nt|blum1956: 2NT is just too weak for the hand of that type, the few-pointed 3NT will be often missed|pg|| nt|mamos: this is not a good start for the defence|pg|| pc|h3|nt|kit: so 10 very badly needed IMPs for Lynch|pg|| nt|tihana: my gib says it will make :)|pg|| nt|baardolav: pos 8+HP and 5+ @c|pg|| nt|blum1956: I guess EW play 1@c-2@d as GF|pg|| nt|riccho: just what N needed without it 4@h would probably a better contract|pg|| nt|ppiglett: Yes much better.|pg|| nt|danilo1: can it this break be some TD at the table? ... since as far as I know NS play 5-card M ... mostly NAT., difficult to believe some alert problems from their side|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|kit: I guess you really can't|pg|| nt|tihana: got explanation: NS plays kind of Polish club so 3@c shows 17+ with 5+@c and 0-2@s|pg|| nt|mcarroll: looks like @C set as trump, now will they go for the pairs 6NT or the safer 6@C?|pg|| nt|tihana: 6CL, wanna bet?|pg|| nt|runnerup: ns can not be a choice 6 @h perhaps can|pg|| nt|runnerup: nt -not really sensibal|pg|| nt|danilo1: good @CK position ... so EW need to cash @H to hold declarer on 7 tricks|pg|| nt|andreasw: yes - but points? nevermind - slam is on:-)|pg|| nt|baardolav: 1@d is 0-7|pg|| nt|andreasw: 46-37|pg|| nt|andreasw: kibb told med - 2 clubs is game force|pg|| nt|baardolav: Natural gf yeah|pg|| nt|andreasw: me|pg|| nt|chmitty: the theory is : against limited hands (2NT shows that) your lead should be neutral|pg|| nt|snorre: Worst lead for EW....|pg|| pc|h2|pg|| nt|ntmon: looks -2|pg|| nt|mamos: Spades are favorable but ..|pg|| nt|eamongall: if those kibs were right I promise you Cezary would never bid 3@D... cc469 |pg|| nt|stc: too late|pg|| pc|s7|nt|mcarroll: I agree|pg|| nt|tihana: shit|pg|| nt|tihana: sorrrry|pg|| nt|runnerup: even this can go off|pg|| nt|stc: the communication on @d is dead|pg|| pc|sK|nt|tihana: ok, at least we will have a swing|pg|| nt|baardolav: well done|pg|| nt|kirp: thats about all that is|pg|| nt|kirp: think E overbid here, with q@H|pg|| nt|kirp: and bad trumps|pg|| nt|snorre: he has some trick in spades and @h Ace.. Don't think that will be enough for ten of them.|pg|| nt|mamos: and perhaps West's raise was not sooooo good|pg|| nt|kirp: somesort of game try in @Cs maybe would have worked better|pg|| nt|mcsd: n Will try tplay for ome kind of cross ruff|pg|| pc|s2|nt|ntmon: EW will negotiate @H ruff but not much more|pg|| nt|andreasw: heart lead?|pg|| nt|baardolav: 1370 it is should be made in one flash when the @c finesse make... and K drops. There is not a play for 1390 because of single @d in east|pg|| nt|riccho: the lead is interesting in a positive way. |pg|| pc|s9|pg|| nt|ntmon: this may not be good - defensive ruffs available|pg|| nt|baardolav: @d lead|pg|| nt|andreasw: youre right Baard!!!|pg|| nt|mcsd: trump lead was best on the auction no matter 3 to the K|pg|| nt|odysseus69: yes needed a heart lead or low diamond|pg|| pc|sA|nt|kit: nice 7 of diamonds play if he really did it, which he might well have done|pg|| nt|runnerup: so 300 with rosruffes|pg|| nt|tihana: my gib says he didnt find|pg|| nt|mamos: and East needs to defend carefully now|pg|| nt|eamongall: I said danilo tahat maybe s didn't alert & n did.... adameba |pg|| pc|s5|nt|henryb: so 460|pg|| nt|kirp: N is not sure, a trump or @H, as endplay coming for S|pg|| nt|kirp: ruff a @D and S to play?|pg|| pc|sT|nt|danilo1: well, 8 tricks now|pg|| nt|snorre: well done so far by Muller...|pg|| nt|mcsd: now @H wil follow|pg|| nt|yuval10: needs to cash the @c before the @h|pg|| nt|yuval10: otherwise W play 3rd round of @h and E discard @c|pg|| pc|s4|pg|| nt|danilo1: with @SK on side and @D 3-3 .. will be no disaster |pg|| pc|cT|nt|chmitty: good for you !|pg|| nt|snorre: Hammans 2nd rule: "If u have a singelton, lead it.."|pg|| pc|cJ|nt|snorre: endplayed for 1st time... more to come?|pg|| nt|mamos: South will do very well to get this down now|pg|| nt|mamos: has to exit Heart|pg|| nt|kirp: a @D would have worked slightly better|pg|| pc|c2|nt|Vugraphzfb: short break|pg|| nt|henryb: The ladies' match is over. Joel leading by 84.|pg|| nt|mcarroll: indeed|pg|| pc|c8|pg|| nt|riccho: the 2NT is interesting in a negative way (at least thats my feeling about that...)|pg|| pc|h9|nt|tihana: hmm|pg|| nt|mamos: oops i think this will make now|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h5|nt|jbgood: a clever return - now it is at least 1 down|pg|| pc|hT|pg|| nt|chmitty: agrre lol :)|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|mcsd: As Yuval said A@h-@h ...@cdisscard|pg|| pc|s3|pc|d4|nt|snorre: Board 4 ended like I supposed in Open: 1@c-1@d-1@s-1NT.. balanced 24hcp normally down i 3NT, but not this time. Antother 9 IMP for Italy|pg|| nt|mcsd: the trouble is that E ruffing @C will be in some kind of endplay|pg|| nt|yuval10: and now it's -1|pg|| pc|s6|pg|| nt|chmitty: agree|pg|| nt|eamongall: it won't matter too much as H and H in other room have a grand slam in the bag also on a later board |pg|| pc|sJ|pc|h7|nt|mcarroll: Yes this is a nervy one, needs 4 tricks from Majors so must finesse, @H more dangerous and @S a 2 way guess - on the theory of vacant spaces - trusting W for longer @Ds than E, it ...|pg|| nt|mcarroll: looks right to play E for the @SQ - which works|pg|| nt|runnerup: perhaps J @d woud have helped to avoid this acsident (spade switch)|pg|| pc|dT|nt|kirp: now 2 @C losers|pg|| nt|eamongall: and win 2 imps anyway |pg|| nt|danilo1: actualy ... even +1 IMP|pg|| nt|eamongall: 1 imp sorry|pg|| pc|s8|pg|| nt|mamos: It's also true that after a "two-suiter auction" that a trump lead will be required - Club lead seemed odd here |pg|| nt|snorre: Muller now play for Axx in clubs by south|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c5|pc|cA|pc|c3|pg|| mc|9|nt|runnerup: ns very active in other table also,but ew tryed 3 @c -no luck -1|pg|| nt|ppiglett: Anna's best shot no nine with Max|pg|| pg|| qx|o7|st||md|1S2HAKJTDT853CQ652,SAT86HQ5DK42CJ743,S9754H8432DJ76CA9,SKQJ3H976DAQ9CKT8|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|3C!|mb|p|mb|3D!|mb|p|mb|3H!|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|nt|ballebodk: look like 9 tricks in 4 sp|pg|| nt|uttam: 25 hcp combined hand with 8 card maj fit but no game is making|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h4|pc|h7|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hQ|pc|h2|pc|h9|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|s4|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|hJ|pc|s8|pc|s5|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dT|pc|dK|pc|d6|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|c2|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cT|pc|cQ|pc|c4|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c7|pc|s7|pc|cK|pg|| mc|8|nt|uttam: cash board|pg|| pg|| qx|c7|st||md|1S2HAKJTDT853CQ652,SAT86HQ5DK42CJ743,S9754H8432DJ76CA9,SKQJ3H976DAQ9CKT8|sv|b|nt|ntmon: 9 IMPs for opps for this enterprise|pg|| nt|ntmon: as you said Jon, they (did not) made it|pg|| nt|riccho: no mercy here by cronier; took the 11th trick with a @c finesse|pg|| nt|riccho: every imp can be decisive hewre|pg|| nt|mamos: well done NS great try East|pg|| nt|odysseus69: bad pass of 2NT in OR- good 5 card suit, intermediates and VUL|pg|| mb|p|nt|ntmon: low scoring match|pg|| nt|blum1956: Anyway 3NT is makeable only from East's hand (assuming no heart lead if West playing)|pg|| mb|p|nt|chmitty: a beautiful 7@d here|pg|| mb|p|nt|stc: on 26 N started on @c and finished -1 :)|pg|| nt|chmitty: would be great to bid|pg|| nt|mamos: wellan excellent result for the Norwegian team which will/may reduce the deficit considerably|pg|| nt|mamos: imps lol loads of imps|pg|| nt|mamos: part score hand|pg|| mb|1N|nt|mcarroll: after all that allegedly knowledgable stuff, def solve the problem :)|pg|| nt|jbgood: most people think that there should be a free seating - not by gender|pg|| nt|jcomyn: why bid at all|pg|| nt|mamos: hehe|pg|| nt|kirp: not with 10 trumps|pg|| nt|snorre: To much power in bidding I think, when these kind of great play leads to one down and -6 IMPs|pg|| mb|p|mb|2C|nt|eamongall: but Austria will have a chance later at 6@Cs so plenty of excitment to come |pg|| mb|p|nt|stc: W ducked @s twice, very well played|pg|| nt|runnerup: minor game -so avoid 3nt is the name off this hand|pg|| nt|snorre: dbl : "I have something, but I don't know what to bid...."|pg|| mb|2S|nt|Walddk1: Welcome to Oosman|pg|| nt|stc: probably 4@s -1|pg|| mb|p|nt|oosb: Hi again|pg|| mb|4S|nt|Vugraphzfb: Boyd: "I think that is a constructive jump" Robinson: "I think it's just to play"|pg|| nt|henryb: I guess 4@s is easier than 3N|pg|| nt|runnerup: ns slam zone in @s but ew can then bid 7 clubs -ok not here and perhaps only teoria|pg|| nt|ntmon: trump lead indicated|pg|| nt|ntmon: my yesterday fellow commenator - a lady - told: we are going to see a lot of contract played by W and N|pg|| nt|danilo1: if 1@D 4 (looks like), why not?|pg|| nt|riccho: Yesterday Id seen a russian pair which bid 1@c (p) 2@d with sth like x Axx KQJx Qxxxx (AFAIR)|pg|| nt|chmitty: actually 7@d may be not so great|pg|| nt|chmitty: you can't ruff a Spade AND cash the 4 @c tricks|pg|| nt|chmitty: so you are down to the @s finesse more or less|pg|| nt|riccho: so u have to rely on the @s finesse|pg|| nt|riccho: :)|pg|| nt|chmitty: or some king of squeeze|pg|| nt|yuval10: some S's will surely reopen with a X here|pg|| nt|kista: should be 2 down|pg|| nt|yuval10: 2@s X wouldn't have been a big success|pg|| mb|p|nt|ntmon: but EW might doubled at 5th level already if they find clubs|pg|| nt|mcarroll: now 5@C completes the picture|pg|| nt|tihana: i was spying the other room, they are in 7@H|pg|| nt|jcomyn: hasnt n already bid his hand|pg|| nt|baardolav: Hello Oosman|pg|| nt|kirp: need to be quick NS, get N in with A@C|pg|| mb|p|nt|henryb: although both are simple|pg|| nt|runnerup: perhaps east thought west to have more and continued -now just trust and bid 5 @d|pg|| nt|andreasw: hi |pg|| nt|oosb: some very exciting boards this set|pg|| nt|snorre: 3@h just preemptiv in my world...|pg|| mb|p|nt|ntmon: from any holding :)|pg|| nt|mcarroll: True - and effective|pg|| nt|blum1956: Just not enough HCP for 7@d|pg|| nt|chmitty: Queen @s with 4@c ... or a double squeeze|pg|| nt|odysseus69: this East hand is what a pass of 2NT should look like|pg|| pc|hA|nt|danilo1: y mean North? ... Dble is OK ... he has max and M 4-cards|pg|| nt|riccho: thats the simple way of avooding grand slam... |pg|| nt|kista: yes but that would be very speculative|pg|| nt|eamongall: rumour is Norwegian ladies up by 15 versus Meckwell team |pg|| pc|h5|nt|stc: don't be surprised by E bidding, the delayed X shows shortness in @h|pg|| nt|chmitty: that's litterature now :)|pg|| pc|h2|nt|stc: nice 4@s here|pg|| nt|mcarroll: goodnight!|pg|| nt|oosb: phantom save/|pg|| nt|oosb: ?|pg|| nt|andreasw: 3 down|pg|| pc|h6|pg|| nt|ntmon: EW should scramble 8 tricks|pg|| nt|odysseus69: here 4S is a poor contract but sure to be repeated through the field|pg|| pc|hK|nt|runnerup: so something can happen in this board in many matches |pg|| nt|runnerup: really -how wrong i was|pg|| nt|riccho: the lead will make the play fast at least|pg|| nt|ppiglett: I remamber days when the East hand was condered not good enough to open a weak 2! Pre-empts are for prempting is my view. Chacun a son gout!|pg|| nt|danilo1: can this go down?|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|jbgood: for the first time I have received comments from kibs supporting the seating rule - of course there are different opinions :)|pg|| pc|h3|nt|hawe45: Why can South not bid 3 @H in the first round - to play?|pg|| nt|hawe45: Or correct|pg|| nt|ntmon: quiet board here :)|pg|| nt|oosb: looks 2 down to me|pg|| pc|h7|pg|| nt|stc: 11 easy tricks now|pg|| pc|c2|nt|runnerup: perhaps wets should bid 2nt to show both minors|pg|| nt|oosb: 2@C 1@h to come|pg|| nt|andreasw: club ruff|pg|| nt|snorre: spades from west when he win clubs, and east can not be endplayed..|pg|| nt|danilo1: @H now|pg|| pc|c3|nt|hawe45: Now 450|pg|| nt|stc: if defense starts with 2 rounds of @h declarer will be very worried :(|pg|| nt|jcomyn: add up the hcp partner cant have anything|pg|| nt|snorre: North can tell by his spaded which suit he wants pd to play|pg|| nt|mamos: another test for NS|pg|| nt|kirp: trump lead rated not to work here,|pg|| nt|mamos: North has played smallest Spades|pg|| nt|snorre: 34: Play clubs pls|pg|| nt|kirp: awake or asleep?|pg|| nt|snorre: If pd has @d king and east EK clubs, @d is correct now|pg|| nt|snorre: A spade less and AKx @c's|pg|| nt|kirp: if pard has @D K, he should have played higher spades|pg|| nt|mamos: yes Snorre that was what I was thinking -- again South will deserve praise for Club here|pg|| nt|snorre: that is what I am trying to say... :)|pg|| nt|mamos: well not just South North too because we think he has beeen trying to help|pg|| pc|cA|nt|mcarroll: the curse of the commentator|pg|| nt|jbgood: looks like an attempt to present declarer with a Greec gift|pg|| nt|tihana: well, no matter what seating rules are, men can play more hands if they intend to. Seating rules cant change someone bidding 3N on every occasion possible.|pg|| nt|andreasw: not any longer|pg|| pc|c8|pg|| nt|mcarroll: will do now - continuing Trumps might have worked better|pg|| nt|ntmon: at least will give E un unpleasant guess|pg|| pc|c9|nt|jcomyn: i have alwsays been told when you bid 1nt thats it|pg|| nt|mamos: yes the danger here for East - whether he knew it or not was in being endplayed but EW have avoided that and the contract should be -1|pg|| pc|cT|nt|danilo1: not easy for Arno (North) ... East did not show two-suiter|pg|| nt|eamongall: can go down .. unless find singleton @DA I think |pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c4|pg|| pc|c6|nt|jbgood: thanks all for opinions on the regulation - so much for that for now.)|pg|| pc|c7|nt|mamos: applause|pg|| pc|s4|nt|oosb: sementa wont finesse :)|pg|| nt|ppiglett: S squeeze for the overtrick.|pg|| pc|cK|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o8|st||md|2SQT8H74DKQJ732CQ2,SA52HQT985D5C9875,SK3HAJ62DT64CAJT6,SJ9764HK3DA98CK43|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1C!|an|Polish Ckub|mb|1S|nt|uttam: good 3nt for NS|pg|| mb|2C!|an|!D|mb|2S|nt|ballebodk: 1 sp ?!? - thats only good when you have succes with it :)|pg|| mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ballebodk: can you beat 3 nt with h10 lead ?|pg|| nt|uttam: easy 3nt bid here now by S|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h4|pg|| nt|uttam: i think its beaten|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d8|pc|dQ|pc|d5|pg|| nt|ballebodk: yes - then we will se - i think its very close to go down now|pg|| nt|uttam: @d twice ducked, dec has guess in @s|pg|| nt|vugraphplf: A @C lead would kill the contract, wouldn't it?|pg|| pc|dK|nt|timb: The defence should score 2@Hs and one trick in each of the other suits|pg|| nt|ballebodk: but declarer cant get on the table in sp if W duck sp K |pg|| pc|c7|pc|d6|pc|d9|pg|| nt|uttam: @h lead after bid and supported @s |pg|| nt|Walddk6: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswrunda3.html|pg|| nt|uttam: fantastic lead any way|pg|| nt|ballebodk: W have seen his pard bids before :)|pg|| nt|vugraphplf: Running scores now working.|pg|| nt|ballebodk: but even that - a sp lead could give declarer the 9th trick - and - why should s not have s Kxx, so h10 didnt give a trick away|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c5|pc|c6|pc|cK|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s8|nt|ballebodk: now the defense have 5 tricks - can they mess up in taking them ?|pg|| nt|uttam: now e has to cash @d ace , other wise still a chance to make it|pg|| nt|uttam: @d ace @hk .exit @S|pg|| nt|timb: He must duck this|pg|| nt|ballebodk: he has to duck now otherwise i think he can win|pg|| pc|sA|pc|sK|pg|| nt|vugraphplf: Now even a @S return won't beat it. EW don't have enough tricks|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|s9|pc|sT|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c8|nt|ballebodk: i'm puzzeled over E def - why not W for sA & hQ - so E can see 5 tricks for the defense |pg|| pc|cA|pc|c3|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c4|pc|h7|pc|c9|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|s4|pc|d2|pc|h5|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dA|pc|d3|nt|ballebodk: *play|pg|| pc|h8|pg|| pc|hK|pc|d7|pc|h9|pc|h2|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sQ|pc|s5|pc|h6|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|hQ|pc|hJ|pc|sJ|pg|| pg|| qx|c8|st||md|2SQT8H74DKQJ732CQ2,SA52HQT985D5C9875,SK3HAJ62DT64CAJT6,SJ9764HK3DA98CK43|sv|o|nt|stc: solid NT part score for EW|pg|| nt|ntmon: the contract goes back and forth|pg|| nt|andreasw: board 20 a tie...|pg|| nt|mamos: thats the second game in two boards that might have gone off - |pg|| nt|snorre: these problems are simple for us kib's.. :)|pg|| nt|ritong: so did helness|pg|| nt|danilo1: NS on bidding test now|pg|| nt|odysseus69: unless Norths second heart was a suit preference that deadly club switch was in fact dangerous |pg|| mb|p|nt|jcomyn: classic passed out deal|pg|| nt|chmitty: interesting hand again : better avoid 5@c and play 3NT|pg|| nt|kirp: 4@H and 5@S looks like|pg|| nt|stc: yes but perhaps 3imp worth|pg|| mb|1C|nt|stc: even 3NT may win|pg|| nt|runnerup: yes it is bad contrack.but it cant be if it makes -can it?|pg|| nt|ntmon: huge lead, 25:4 so far|pg|| nt|ppiglett: A bit of action here I suspect!|pg|| mb|1S|nt|hawe45: This is the board, where you can - bis mistake - bid 3 NT. Easy make|pg|| nt|ntmon: five push boards in a row|pg|| nt|riccho: looks a bit like a bridge world challenge the champs hand ...|pg|| nt|kirp: now will S balance with 4@S|pg|| nt|odysseus69: dead right - extra undertrick should bring in 3 imps|pg|| mb|1N|nt|mcarroll: lots of action elsewhere but pretty mundane here|pg|| nt|ntmon: strong clubs system :)|pg|| nt|snorre: "might" is a kind word... :)|pg|| mb|2S|nt|runnerup: this looks like partscore battle -ew 10 in clubs-ns less in @h|pg|| nt|ntmon: a treatment now|pg|| nt|mareczek: South has the obvious opening|pg|| nt|oosb: that's some push! a lot of pairs stopped short of slam|pg|| nt|ppiglett: East will be wondering how big a number this could be when the board comes through!|pg|| mb|p|nt|hawe45: Oups|pg|| nt|ntmon: interesting how the bidding would develop w/o interference|pg|| nt|ntmon: now 2@S ?|pg|| nt|danilo1: do not believe ... North, East or South may open|pg|| nt|blum1956: Willard's overcall helps to stop in 3NT|pg|| nt|riccho: true|pg|| nt|kirp: hooray for Netherlands|pg|| nt|kirp: they need some cheering|pg|| nt|mamos: this was a system win I think very hard for NS|pg|| nt|kirp: dble game swing for Neth|pg|| mb|p|nt|henryb: I'm a crawling Stayman bidder|pg|| nt|stc: and the ideal lead|pg|| nt|mcarroll: another Hamman hand?|pg|| nt|riccho: even v-vs a heavy loaded 5@D "preempt"|pg|| nt|mamos: ty :)|pg|| nt|kirp: club lead would at least have beaten it|pg|| nt|yuval10: let's see if NS can find the @c fit|pg|| mb|3D|nt|ntmon: 4@D ?|pg|| nt|chmitty: form East point of view that 2NT shows @h ace|pg|| mb|3H|nt|ntmon: 1@S already implied @D ?|pg|| nt|ntmon: bid in the same second|pg|| nt|tihana: is 4h by Sabine an option?|pg|| nt|mareczek: better to stay silent and be thought a fool than open your mouth and remove all doubt|pg|| nt|jcomyn: with the object of either going down or scoring 90|pg|| nt|mamos: I did think of typing might/should|pg|| nt|snorre: east knew pd had two spades at most, so of course he should have kept three of them...|pg|| nt|mamos: The Norwegians look like defeating 3@h on Board 6 so may be on the way to taking the lead here|pg|| nt|snorre: Find some more coffee, mamos.. A calm 1NT here... |pg|| nt|mamos: I'm a simple soul I'd have lead @d3 by now|pg|| nt|odysseus69: Israeli players tend to be conservative and 1NT from South is characteristic|pg|| mb|3N|nt|hawe45: Switch to the @D King...|pg|| nt|mcarroll: 1 @H alerted - transfer, 2@C not alerted bur cannot be natural, |pg|| nt|chmitty: which is not good news for a @c slam|pg|| nt|riccho: vs a WK NT hand the E hand doesnt look like a slaminviter anyway|pg|| nt|odysseus69: well done by North|pg|| mb|d|nt|andreasw: heart lead ? |pg|| nt|oosb: seems like a very reasonable contract|pg|| nt|blum1956: certainly|pg|| mb|p|nt|jcomyn: who said that marek|pg|| nt|mareczek: "all in" lead by North|pg|| nt|jcomyn: you or aristotle|pg|| nt|oosb: cant lead @s after the 2@S bid|pg|| nt|andreasw: spade bid prevented spade lead|pg|| nt|oosb: perfectly logical @h lead, just unlucky|pg|| nt|oosb: more than one way to get to 9 tricks now|pg|| nt|mamos: :)|pg|| nt|yuval10: maybe 3@c (persumably a sort of checkback ) follow by 4@c over 3NT would give a clear message|pg|| nt|danilo1: thk it has been lot of possible bids before 6@H available|pg|| mb|p|nt|kit: Should Lair pass 2@D? I think so. 4 diamonds more likely than 2.|pg|| nt|snorre: Think one down if EW play club after four times @d's.|pg|| mb|4D|nt|stc: Q@s, 10@h, K@d and KQ@c, FIVE key cards on side !|pg|| nt|hawe45: Bidding like this, you need it|pg|| nt|stc: but passing to the state of the match|pg|| nt|ntmon: theory (Garozzo i think said it) - against strong club, be as soon as possible at 3@S|pg|| nt|mareczek: both rooms opened 1@h with East|pg|| mb|p|nt|ntmon: good competitive decision by W|pg|| nt|eamongall: meckwell still have 2 slam hands to play |pg|| mb|p|nt|mcarroll: good sacrifice|pg|| nt|mcarroll: 8 tricks on top and little prospect of a 9th?|pg|| nt|odysseus69: they may run from laydown|pg|| mb|p|nt|runnerup: well found -minors are not easy to be found because they can be sorter than 4 when opened|pg|| nt|oosb: but @D 9 seems best|pg|| nt|snorre: or this way... |pg|| pc|hT|nt|mamos: We are told not to bid on weak hands over pre-emptive openings and hard for North to act over 4@h and indeed for South West has a huge variety of hand sfor this action|pg|| nt|odysseus69: problem created by 1NT bid when he should have bid 2D|pg|| pc|hA|nt|andreasw: yes.much better|pg|| nt|baardolav: No direct entries for the @d suit|pg|| nt|oosb: but no entries now|pg|| nt|oosb: he actually wanted @D to lose, so he can set up a nice 2nd finesse and entry :) |pg|| nt|andreasw: there will be|pg|| pc|h3|nt|henryb: Earlier in this match Boyd- Robinson couldn't get out of 1N because they play puppet (I think) and went -100 in 1N with 3@s made at the other table|pg|| pc|h4|pg|| nt|kista: a good slam to reach|pg|| pc|sK|nt|hawe45: Oups|pg|| nt|ntmon: preempting apparently works here w/o need to bid 4@H|pg|| pc|s7|nt|ntmon: with actual score, Couples shifted to the 1st place|pg|| nt|ntmon: helping lead|pg|| nt|oosb: this works |pg|| pc|s8|pc|sA|pg|| pc|h9|nt|stc: %play knowing 4@h in S|pg|| nt|jbgood: 27 teams from the A-Swiss and 5 from the B go on to the KO stages - follow the exciting finish of this last round here: http://b.poznan2011.pl/mxt/swrunda5.html|pg|| nt|danilo1: looks very possible third hand ... personally I would pass as North and East, but I would open as South|pg|| nt|ppiglett: Suit preference card - the 10 of clubs.|pg|| pc|h2|nt|riccho: N should hav an easy task now to hold the @hq|pg|| pc|hK|nt|snorre: We are still waiting for Running score from all matches. A lot of teams, so they need some time to set up everything.. |pg|| pc|h7|pg|| pc|s4|nt|hawe45: N/S or E/W?|pg|| nt|andreasw: yes:-)'|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|mcarroll: this would not work if W had anything in @Hs|pg|| nt|tihana: if Jacob switches to !J after club holds?|pg|| pc|s2|nt|henryb: Its a question, I think, of how likely opener is to have two major suit doubletons|pg|| pc|s3|pg|| nt|tihana: diamond jack|pg|| pc|sT|nt|hawe45: S - OK|pg|| nt|hawe45: Mistake, forget|pg|| nt|kirp: tuff game when you have to lead your dblton to get a ruff with singleton|pg|| nt|yuval10: as some specs pointed out , the 2NT by South ( instead of 3 @c ) made it easier for Ns to reach the good slam|pg|| pc|s5|pc|d4|pc|s6|pg|| pc|h6|nt|odysseus69: 3nt x making becomes 4D minus 1|pg|| pc|s9|pc|d2|nt|runnerup: yes hey have played well and been lucky,but so it is is you play well luck follows you|pg|| nt|ntmon: claim|pg|| nt|mcarroll: indeed, this will actually make|pg|| pc|h5|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d5|nt|ntmon: i like this system with transfer responses just because there is more room for minors|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dA|pg|| nt|snorre: Will be posted here: http://www.poznan2011.pl/results|pg|| nt|stc: yes, they lost a big oportunity|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dK|pc|h8|nt|kit: this overruff will hurt I believe|pg|| pc|d6|pg|| nt|mamos: much better defence :)|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|c5|pc|c6|nt|henryb: if he pitches a @c he could have made it, I think|pg|| nt|kit: I hope Boyd doesn't really have a problem here|pg|| nt|henryb: maybe not|pg|| pc|d8|pg|| nt|stc: a bite like the non X of 5@h on the other side|pg|| pc|dJ|nt|kit: oh good grief|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: BOyd: "sorry" Robinson: "I did overruff with the J"|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cT|pc|c3|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o9|st||md|3SQ73HT862DQJ83C65,SAJT8HAQJ5DA2CK72,SK94H943D9CAQJT84,S652HK7DKT7654C93|sv|e|nt|vugraphplf: Running scores at http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswrunda3.html|pg|| nt|uttam: new leaders |pg|| nt|ballebodk: as utta wrote - the have bid and supportet in spade - which combination does W not lead from, speccialy when teh k is on the table ?|pg|| mb|2C!|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ballebodk: 3nt - one down ?|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cQ|nt|uttam: no way to make this one|pg|| nt|ballebodk: the big problem with a to X is that a major would be played on the wrong hand|pg|| nt|timb: He starts with 8 tricks and no chance of another|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c6|pc|c7|pg|| nt|uttam: he started w/8 on lead, |pg|| nt|timb: North must continue clubs, of course - as he should|pg|| nt|ballebodk: nice duck - if north dont continue in clubs now we are home on a doublefiness in sp !|pg|| nt|uttam: if north does not continue club--- +600|pg|| nt|ballebodk: and if he should continue in clubs with which club then ?|pg|| nt|uttam: ace and back|pg|| nt|ballebodk: yes we can that but can north ?|pg|| nt|ballebodk: *see|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c9|pc|c5|pc|cK|pg|| nt|ballebodk: he could :)|pg|| nt|uttam: i think @cj was good enough|pg|| nt|uttam: no as n has to find two pitches|pg|| nt|uttam: still down--- yes|pg|| nt|uttam: no enplay as south is holding !q|pg|| pc|h5|nt|ballebodk: if W now take 6 red tricks, will n then blank s k to avoid a throw in to sp in declarers maybe sp AQ ?|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hK|pc|h2|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h6|pc|hA|pc|h4|pg|| nt|uttam: lucky for north, thus it was best to exit !a and small|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h3|pc|d4|pc|h8|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|hT|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d9|pc|d5|pc|d3|pg|| pc|d2|nt|uttam: now N may be thinking he is getting enplayed|pg|| pc|c4|pc|dK|pc|d8|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s7|pc|sT|pc|sK|pg|| pc|cA|pc|d6|pc|dJ|pc|c2|pg|| pc|cT|pc|d7|pc|dQ|pc|s8|pg|| pc|c8|pc|dT|pc|s3|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s6|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg|| pg|| qx|c9|st||md|3SQ73HT862DQJ83C65,SAJT8HAQJ5DA2CK72,SK94H943D9CAQJT84,S652HK7DKT7654C93|sv|e|nt|stc: This game showed how important J are, each one was worth a trick !|pg|| nt|ntmon: Roland Wald uses to say "club suit died in 50-ties"|pg|| nt|danilo1: Will South open 1 or 4 @H?|pg|| nt|jcomyn: 1h|pg|| nt|mareczek: toay style is 3@s opening with North hand|pg|| nt|jcomyn: how far will ew go in clubs|pg|| nt|andreasw: 50-37|pg|| nt|riccho: another quick play lead...|pg|| nt|kirp: 15 imp swing to give Neth the lead|pg|| nt|mamos: the overtrick made it 15 imps and a Dutch lead --|pg|| nt|eamongall: that Norwegians have not made the best of though ... |pg|| nt|Walddk7: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswrunda3.html|pg|| nt|odysseus69: I think when he doubled that he knew they would run - the auction was shaky|pg|| mb|1C|nt|kit: Guaranteed to wrongside 3NT, and he succeeds|pg|| nt|hawe45: Called Jackpot|pg|| nt|snorre: 3@h down 2 vs 4@h made on board 6.... 11 for Norway|pg|| mb|p|nt|stc: lol|pg|| nt|ntmon: so why do not do something in systems to recover?|pg|| nt|danilo1: 1 looks correct, but at this voulnerabilities, 4 may be rite action|pg|| nt|riccho: presumably a 12-14 BAL or 16+ 1@c opener|pg|| nt|mamos: 6@h not exactly the obvious Slam|pg|| mb|1H!|nt|oosb: other room played 3@S in 21|pg|| nt|kirp: Looks like 7@D makes here, wonder why 6@Hs in OR|pg|| mb|1S|nt|runnerup: ns has points but west distribution so perhaps 2 spades |pg|| nt|blum1956: As opposite to the previous hand, EW must play 5@c here|pg|| nt|blum1956: not 3NT|pg|| nt|chmitty: we can see there are some good reasons to do so from East's perspective|pg|| mb|d!|an|support|nt|kit: 4@D might well make|pg|| nt|henryb: Many of us are not convinced of 3N gambling as a good bid, because if 3N is right the wrong person will be playing it|pg|| nt|henryb: I open 1@c with Steve's hand|pg|| nt|kit: Not sure what Weichsel is thinking -- maybe of raising, maybe wondering if 4@D is conventional|pg|| nt|riccho: :) I c the point |pg|| nt|snorre: and more to come for Norway on B7...|pg|| nt|mamos: these ten board matches fly past - our penultimate board after about an hour|pg|| nt|mamos: I think EW play relay methods|pg|| mb|p|nt|henryb: and rebid 2@c and 3@c|pg|| nt|henryb: or 4@c if indicated|pg|| nt|henryb: to show the solid suit|pg|| nt|kit: I don't know what Boyd is thinking of doing|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: He's definitely thinking about something|pg|| nt|danilo1: opps, srry ... missed Bd Nr. (thought Sout dealer) |pg|| nt|jcomyn: might have been interesting if vul reversed|pg|| nt|chmitty: 2@s x : support other suits|pg|| nt|blum1956: redouble showing the Ace|pg|| nt|vugraphpl4: i cant hear anything :/|pg|| nt|mamos: EW in OR had to contend with a Muiderberg 2@S in OR|pg|| nt|vugraphpl4: Ilczuk undo his bid|pg|| nt|kirp: if this is start of relay auction, wake me when its over|pg|| nt|odysseus69: support double showing 3 hearts|pg|| mb|2H|nt|Vugraphzfb: and that must have been what|pg|| nt|stc: S noticed that all cards are good for declarer in this match|pg|| nt|riccho: 5@d can be a very expensive save|pg|| nt|chmitty: the french also stopped at 2NT at board 6 ... but with some reason, South overcalling !!|pg|| nt|blum1956: Max may expect that Anna has not that long diamonds (she seems to keep 4 spades|pg|| nt|chmitty: 3@c : my hand is interesting, although I passed 2@s ... so good support for red suits, with no doubt|pg|| nt|riccho: with the S Hand? boah...|pg|| nt|riccho: for sure - if they didnt switch systems since last round... :)|pg|| nt|kirp: Is this a Str @C auction|pg|| nt|danilo1: with West's hand, Adam may opt for 4@H rather than 3NT|pg|| mb|p|nt|oosb: 3NT from North is comfy|pg|| nt|chmitty: passed 2@c sry|pg|| nt|blum1956: Certainly Anna will bid 5@c|pg|| nt|blum1956: and NS should take a save|pg|| mb|p|nt|henryb: If I opened 1@c the auction would go 1@c-1@h-2@c-3N and we would get a low diamond lead|pg|| nt|kit: Interesting -- maybe right, but still .....|pg|| nt|mr murray: talk to u later. Going out to play poker now. Took me all day to get ready to go out and play a few hours. No energy in my body at all :)|pg|| nt|kit: Now Weichsel does have a problem -- who can make what?|pg|| nt|ntmon: taking a low road|pg|| nt|runnerup: now have to find @h out|pg|| nt|runnerup: @h said i not ace @h|pg|| nt|danilo1: very difficult task for Guido id declarer plays low @S especially|pg|| nt|riccho: the save can be a good fortune for EW|pg|| mb|2S|nt|blum1956: wow!|pg|| nt|riccho: inviting to a phantom sacrficie|pg|| nt|snorre: not an easy 3NT to win... |pg|| nt|mamos: 3 clubs 3 spades two + one|pg|| nt|snorre: North can win first club, play spades, duck next @c and declearer can't reach dummy...|pg|| nt|mamos: blow |pg|| nt|kirp: so 2@C shows better @Ds than @Hs?|pg|| mb|p|nt|Vugraphzfb: Boyd: "all that for me, eh?" Robinson: "surprise"|pg|| nt|henryb: Well, would North really bid 2@d after 1@c-1@h?|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: He did in the othe room :)|pg|| nt|runnerup: in this vulnerability -this looks normal bidding seqwence |pg|| nt|andreasw: 10 tricks|pg|| nt|oosb: dont think he can risk trying for overtricks|pg|| nt|andreasw: no he wont|pg|| nt|odysseus69: widely used but not universally popular|pg|| mb|p|mb|3C|nt|ntmon: interesting play after @C lead|pg|| nt|jbgood: big gain for China on the last one...|pg|| nt|jbgood: 5 @c by W was not a success|pg|| nt|mamos: plan B|pg|| nt|mamos: im told that East has shown his Red suit length |pg|| nt|kista: agressive raise by E|pg|| mb|p|nt|blum1956: The save in 5@d costed 800 but...|pg|| nt|chmitty: and now ladies and gentlemen ....|pg|| nt|riccho: 6@c looks a bit offroad|pg|| mb|p|nt|ntmon: good decision by Yan to overrule partner's suit|pg|| nt|chmitty: 1540 is offroad indeed|pg|| nt|odysseus69: trying to concede a penalty - because he didnt bid 2C last time|pg|| mb|p|nt|riccho: and will be a make now...|pg|| pc|s2|nt|henryb: opposite a passed partner?|pg|| nt|snorre: when ur pd opens a strong @c, you never bid the suits you have. That way the strong hand becomes declearer|pg|| nt|kirp: once you know pard is 4333 with @ds or no 4-card major, and has @C K, 7 should be easy|pg|| nt|mamos: a spec has suggested that Tarzan is too hard for normal players EW are not normal players :)|pg|| nt|yuval10: looks like 8 tricks only here|pg|| nt|stc: W very conservative|pg|| nt|odysseus69: failure to double no-play contracts continues|pg|| pc|s3|nt|kit: hard to see defense getting this wrong, so likely 3 IMPs for Lynch|pg|| pc|sJ|nt|danilo1: good leaving @SK ... (no @H finess possible|pg|| pc|sK|pg|| pc|h3|nt|snorre: These hands are made for rele-systems...|pg|| nt|mamos: West continues to ask and East to reply|pg|| nt|snorre: anyone for 2@s first time in north? Just to stop the releys..|pg|| pc|h7|nt|danilo1: still making (no options) ... develop @H and @Dto K|pg|| nt|kirp: that would have been nice|pg|| nt|kista: If W ducks this he is in with a chance|pg|| nt|kista: with an endplay on N|pg|| nt|kista: the 4 card ending N will be forced to @sAJ @d95 and will have to surrender|pg|| pc|h8|nt|ntmon: no brainer|pg|| nt|kirp: considerate not nice|pg|| pc|hJ|pg|| nt|tihana: even if he continues with @Hs it is not easy for declarer|pg|| nt|runnerup: after this lead nothimg to do anyway-so lead was critical point |pg|| pc|hA|nt|mamos: im told East has shown 2452 and 4 Controls A=2 K=1|pg|| nt|kirp: wonderful!!|pg|| nt|snorre: still awake, Kirp?|pg|| pc|h4|nt|kit: 2 club entries in dummy, but not good enough|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: declarer :) - Boyd is playing this|pg|| nt|kirp: sort of, in SA this would have been so easy and much shorter|pg|| pc|hK|nt|riccho: sometimes the best way is offroad :)|pg|| nt|eamongall: what a lead problem said joed1471|pg|| pc|h2|pg|| nt|snorre: 5@d show the @s 9? :)|pg|| nt|mamos: specs point out those three Qs in East are key any par that can find these deserve our utmost admiration|pg|| nt|kirp: thars why i cant see whay W is in control|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|riccho: @h is best now |pg|| nt|mamos: a pair playing these methods had a 17 bid against me recently -- and bid the correct grand|pg|| pc|h9|nt|ppiglett: A heart switch to hold declaler to 8.|pg|| nt|snorre: great defence by north so far...|pg|| nt|odysseus69: as a separate point the reasonable tactic of bidding 4 card major after 1C is carried too far |pg|| pc|s5|nt|henryb: picky, Jan, picky|pg|| pc|h6|pg|| nt|tihana: where you make 9 tricks?|pg|| pc|h5|nt|kit: right -- in hand|pg|| nt|jcomyn: fortunate lie of the cards|pg|| nt|snorre: A small hart now and North have to unblock @d 9 next trick...|pg|| nt|kirp: he must have known about Qs|pg|| nt|mamos: Im reliably told these are spiral scan asking bids|pg|| nt|mamos: well whats to say|pg|| pc|d9|nt|mamos: claim|pg|| pc|c3|nt|eamongall: http://ebooksbridge.com/www/ebb/index.php?main_page=ebb_product_book_info&products_id=425 ... Rodwell book ... seems tasty |pg|| nt|eamongall: free e-book sample too|pg|| pc|hT|pg|| nt|jbgood: 2 trump losers and next|pg|| pc|s6|nt|snorre: He did!!!|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sT|pc|s4|pg|| pc|sA|nt|mamos: West was asking|pg|| nt|danilo1: if South has 3+ cards ... declarer can discard 2@C on 2@S ... so no @C finess ... |pg|| pc|s9|nt|yuval10: -1|pg|| nt|odysseus69: on a weak hand like Souths its not a good idea to go out of your way to bid a weak suit|pg|| pc|d4|nt|ntmon: has enough intermediates|pg|| nt|danilo1: only dble-dummy defense (small @C to K after @SA) and small @D back beats|pg|| pc|sQ|pg|| pc|dA|pc|c4|nt|yuval10: now Q@h is an exit|pg|| pc|d5|nt|runnerup: no squese so =|pg|| pc|d3|pg|| pc|cA|nt|kit: Lair could have unlocked jack, but position is readout anyway|pg|| nt|kit: Surely Lair didn't bid 4@D on a 4-bagger|pg|| nt|snorre: EXCELLENT played by all!!!|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c5|nt|kit: However, danger is if Boyd has ace of diamonds|pg|| nt|yuval10: if W has played A@h , then N had to duck the @s to defeat|pg|| pc|c2|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|d6|pc|c6|pc|cK|pg|| mc|6|pg|| qx|o10|st||md|4S3HQT8DA976CKJT72,SKJ92HK74DKQ53C95,SQT76H963DJT8CA63,SA854HAJ52D42CQ84|sv|b|nt|uttam: the moral of the story --- lucky south was holding @sq|pg|| mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|uttam: EW could go over board here|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|s9|pg|| nt|timb: They are already if South shifts to clubs when in on either @HQ or @DA|pg|| nt|ballebodk: poor north, he has made a few mistakes in this set, and now the opps have 4-4 in spade without bidding it, and he blows a trick right away :) |pg|| pc|h4|pc|h9|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|d6|nt|uttam: 11hcp opening facing 11 hcp ,its very difficult hand to handle|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dJ|pc|d2|pg|| nt|ballebodk: but still only 7 tricks for EW|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|h8|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d8|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c5|pc|cA|pc|c4|pg|| pc|c3|nt|uttam: @d rebid on 1c ,may be they lost the @S fit|pg|| mc|6|nt|ballebodk: tx all - see your 11,45|pg|| nt|uttam: thanks all|pg|| nt|vugraphplf: This was the last board of this match. We will be starting the next match in 15 minutes. Room closing|pg|| nt|vugraphplf: Results at http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswrunda3.html|pg|| pg|| qx|c10|st||md|4S3HQT8DA976CKJT72,SKJ92HK74DKQ53C95,SQT76H963DJT8CA63,SA854HAJ52D42CQ84|sv|b|nt|henryb: yes, and surely if Boyd had the @dA he would have drawn trump, crossed to the @dA to take his pitch|pg|| nt|kit: right -- declarer would (should) never have played that way with ace of diamonds|pg|| nt|henryb: after ruffing out the heart|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: Boyd: "you might have something - might have some distribution - might have the J of @ss. I had an opening bid, you had an opening bid, why should we defend 4@d. I don't know if we ...|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: beat 4@d"|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: Weichsel: "we haven't discussed what that means in balancing seat" Lair: "I thought we played better minor for Majors" a little more discussion|pg|| nt|ntmon: lst hand of the set|pg|| nt|Walddk7: 27+5 qualify for the Round of 32 tomorrow after five rounds of Swiss today. 27 from Swiss A and 5 from B|pg|| nt|runnerup: 1 @c -etc..|pg|| nt|jbgood: these teams are of course safe to go on to the round of 32 |pg|| nt|blum1956: Anna could use Blackwood (normally we play 14 30 responses in Russia)|pg|| nt|riccho: maybe S should have lead @cA to "have a look"|pg|| nt|snorre: That is why north should bid 2@s first round. He is white vs red...|pg|| nt|snorre: Applause for netherland!!!|pg|| nt|mamos: I think that to bid as they did such a Grand with the certainty that you know the cards is awesome|pg|| nt|vugraphpl4: director at the table|pg|| nt|vugraphpl4: i havent noticed why|pg|| nt|vugraphpl4: its ok now|pg|| mb|p|nt|stc: OR also played the lucky 3NT, 11+12=26|pg|| nt|danilo1: Babsch will probably open 1NT|pg|| nt|stc: Interesting, they Xed 3NT which was cold, and not the -4 and -3 contracts :)|pg|| mb|p|nt|kit: Weischel has choice of declaring 2NT or 1@C it looks like|pg|| nt|henryb: 2N does better|pg|| nt|Vugraphzfb: Robinson: "did you have a diamond stopper?" Boyd: "I had K doubleton ... I had a stopper from my side, not from yours"|pg|| nt|ntmon: last hand of Swiss |pg|| nt|oosb: Its going well for Pony so far|pg|| mb|1D|nt|ntmon: finally a turnaround board 18 - EW allowed to 5@D|pg|| nt|riccho: @s lead (as a kib mentions) was certainly not very well thought|pg|| mb|p|nt|jbgood: last one now - hope you have enjoyed as much as I have:)|pg|| nt|andreasw: yes, calandra needs a swing|pg|| nt|chmitty: in these situations, lead the @c Ace seems to be an obligation|pg|| mb|1H|nt|Vugraphzfb: Weichsel asks about the lead: "standard from feser than 4, or promises the J if from 4 or more"|pg|| nt|kit: he has down 1, but may take heart finesse trying to make and go down many|pg|| nt|tihana: tiny 3N?|pg|| nt|danilo1: waw ... both rooms played 4@S |pg|| nt|danilo1: well ... :) ... decided he is not in Club |pg|| nt|danilo1: they do not play Blue Club (for Specs)|pg|| mb|p|nt|oosb: In other scores .. Brogeland trailing De Botton 22 imps to 60 !|pg|| nt|oosb: Heres the link to live scores: http://b.poznan2011.pl/mxt/r32runda1.html|pg|| mb|p|nt|andreasw: 3 nt is on...|pg|| mb|p|nt|runnerup: here ns must avoid 4 @s 4 @h or 3nt has chances|pg|| nt|mcarroll: If they declare a @H contract, E will have a nasty surprise for them|pg|| nt|ntmon: even in 4@S a lot to do for declarer|pg|| nt|mamos: it will be interesting to look at the traveller -- it represents a lot of practice and dedication|pg|| nt|stc: Danger to overbid here|pg|| pc|s3|nt|ntmon: 3NT has good chance to be bid after 3@C from S|pg|| nt|tihana: lot of 10s|pg|| nt|kirp: good lead, should beat this|pg|| nt|eamongall: Wow |pg|| nt|danilo1: thk now South should reopen (4@C)|pg|| nt|stc: How wrong I was|pg|| nt|odysseus69: kind of bidding I like- can hande 1 level contracts with 23 Miltons|pg|| pc|sJ|nt|ntmon: thx to our operator in Poznan - Lukasz|pg|| nt|eamongall: south did reopen ... :) but skipped a few levels |pg|| pc|sQ|nt|andreasw: will be bid now:-)|pg|| nt|oosb: wow|pg|| nt|snorre: The teams are divided in groups of 8 in the open and play a complete Round-robin of 10 boards.|pg|| nt|snorre: At the end of the Round-robin the first 3 teams from each group in the open will qualify for Swiss A and the other teams for Swiss B|pg|| nt|kirp: guess down 2 but a lot to the play|pg|| pc|sA|pg|| nt|oosb: nice bid|pg|| nt|andreasw: wd|pg|| pc|d4|nt|runnerup: but even if bid it is not made yet|pg|| nt|ntmon: 3@D to find 5th spade i think|pg|| nt|mcarroll: good pass ny N|pg|| nt|baardolav: A little bit lucky 3nt:)|pg|| nt|oosb: after that lead, you're all in|pg|| nt|chmitty: another difficult hand to bid here|pg|| nt|riccho: E promised the @sA already; so the danger of a @s lead should have been obvious|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dK|nt|kit: At this point, Weichsel has in essence exposed his entire hand|pg|| nt|ntmon: but whole bidding a bid murky now|pg|| nt|ntmon: bit*|pg|| nt|ppiglett: South might have come in 2S as East is a limited hand and both the club and H honour are probably well placed. Anyway I am an aggressive 2S bidder. Stopping Partner bidding 4 is ...|pg|| nt|ppiglett: the problem!|pg|| pc|d8|pg|| nt|mcarroll: by|pg|| nt|oosb: close your eyes and finesse|pg|| nt|andreasw: yes west knows|pg|| pc|c5|nt|tihana: bi|pg|| nt|chmitty: 3@h sounds like : I have a stopper problem|pg|| nt|chmitty: but in which suit ?|pg|| nt|chmitty: 2@d being 100 % artificial forcing|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cQ|nt|ntmon: 3NT isn't pretty|pg|| pc|cK|pg|| nt|runnerup: now diamond lead gives chances in this|pg|| nt|ntmon: S can shed a @h on 3rd diamond|pg|| nt|stc: new leader, they played and made 3NT on the 4@D board|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|ntmon: @DJ and @CQ well placed for declarer|pg|| nt|kista: only double dummy play would let this make|pg|| nt|kista: if declarer decides against @s hook|pg|| pc|hK|nt|snorre: Last board in this room. Next match starts in 25 min. 15.45. Welcome back..|pg|| pc|h3|nt|runnerup: so is it possible for ns to open + imps|pg|| pc|h2|pg|| pc|c9|nt|jcomyn: i love that lead|pg|| pc|cA|nt|oosb: next.|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c2|pg|| nt|andreasw: wd next|pg|| pc|h9|nt|mcarroll: easy to get overboard |pg|| nt|danilo1: good stop ... 5@H may be in danger - especially with @HA lead|pg|| nt|baardolav: Have to see if @c q drops first|pg|| pc|hA|nt|mamos: an exciting set -- well fought by the Polish NS against the really World Class Dutch team - who we would expect to see in the final stages of the competition certainly potential ...|pg|| nt|mamos: winners|pg|| nt|kirp: Neth have had a strong finish to this match|pg|| nt|snorre: Last board here. next round 17.30 (15 min) due to schedule. |pg|| nt|kirp: Bye all|pg|| nt|snorre: This round was delayed by 10 minor so, so maybe a bit later than 17.30|pg|| pc|h8|nt|oosb: He will play it out for @C|pg|| pc|h4|pg|| nt|kit: Perhaps he should not have cashed high heart first, just led spade to dummy, led jack of hearts, and seen if he got a cover|pg|| nt|riccho: S needs a successful @C guess now; this is espec difficult after such a bd just before|pg|| nt|odysseus69: yes Constantin - in OR south showed diamonds after same start rather than the wet 1NT bid|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cJ|nt|henryb: He might go up with the @hK on the theory that 1@c is 2 down and either the @hQ drops and he makes 3 or it does not and he is only 1 down|pg|| nt|chmitty: terrible set for Multon Willard so far : 4@s made by opps, a frightening 50% grand slam not bid, 6cx made, and now 3NT 2 off|pg|| nt|ppiglett: Then again you probably would have made 4S.|pg|| pc|h7|nt|mcarroll: yes - 2nd worst game contract - 4@S is the only game with any real prospect|pg|| nt|ntmon: down 4|pg|| nt|oosb: incase some one unguards|pg|| nt|riccho: the 2!opener peempts both sids and you canot expect to do it right every time|pg|| pc|c6|pg|| nt|ntmon: so an opportunity for rossard to equal the score|pg|| nt|ntmon: all boards played here, looking for last comparison|pg|| nt|ntmon: thx for watching, thx operator for fine job|pg|| nt|mcarroll: Playing 4@S in OR|pg|| nt|ntmon: see you all next round |pg|| nt|ntmon: bye|pg|| pc|sK|nt|tihana: vwdone to avoid heart fit |pg|| pc|s6|nt|oosb: right Baard|pg|| pc|s4|nt|andreasw: 3nt bid|pg|| nt|eamongall: will get them a few VPs but still 25 for Monaco |pg|| pc|hT|pg|| nt|danilo1: great play by Balicki-Zmudzinski ... have been pleasure to watch|pg|| nt|danilo1: Thanks all|pg|| pc|cT|nt|mamos: West competed aggressively over 2@d|pg|| pc|s2|nt|ntmon: 4@S is questionable because if S did not opened 2@S, she is around 7 HCP and implied bad @S suit|pg|| pc|dT|pc|h5|pg|| nt|snorre: see you all|pg|| nt|mamos: ty all|pg|| nt|mamos: ty op|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|d7|pc|d3|nt|tihana: with 2 balanced hands|pg|| pc|h6|pg|| nt|stc: not best defense|pg|| nt|andreasw: sry private|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dA|nt|jbgood: yes - may be a Lavazza win on this one |pg|| nt|tihana: thank you all, see y tomorrow|pg|| nt|jbgood: bye all - thanks for your insightful inputs:)|pg|| nt|ntmon: thx my fellow commentators and specs for thier input|pg|| nt|ntmon: bye all|pg|| nt|kista: very strange @h shift|pg|| nt|kista: a very likely loss for EW|pg|| pc|d5|nt|runnerup: not easy here --other table in 3nt=so ew won this match a lot |pg|| pc|dJ|pg|| pc|c7|nt|andreasw: might gain some points here|pg|| nt|oosb: its possible|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s7|pc|s5|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dQ|pc|sT|pc|s8|pg|| pg||