vg|A EC 2011 Open Teams Swiss _,1_7,I,11,20,Netherlands Juniors,0,Monaco Z,0| rs|4HW-3,3CW+1,4HEx-1,4HEx-1,2SN-3,2HS=,6HS-1,4HS+1,4SW=,4SW+1,5SE=,5DN=,4SE=,4SE=,4SN+1,4SN+1,4SW+1,4SW+1,3NW-1,3NW-1| pn|LANKVELD,Helgemo,BOS,Helness,Zmudzinski,Wackwitz,Balicki,Stuurman|pg|| qx|o11|st||md|1SK53HQT6DKQT73CT8,ST874HK97432DJCAQ,SQJ96HA8D98654C92,SA2HJ5DA2CKJ76543|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|2D|mb|2H|nt|Walddk2: http://www.poznan2011.pl/ for running scores|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Helgemo is West from Monaco (kind of)|pg|| mb|3D|mb|p|an|.|nt|jtr: Hello people|pg|| nt|glen: if you rearrange the letters of Monaco you get Norway |pg|| mb|p|nt|glen: 1@H is in the modern style: shape=get your bid in now|pg|| mb|d|an|.|mb|p|nt|glen: likely the pass is forcing, W must double or bid now|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|glen: in the other room the juniors had the methods to get out of the 6-2 @H fit|pg|| pc|d8|nt|glen: i'm not sure i would want those methods|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h6|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| nt|jtr: A @s switch will be awkward|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sA|nt|jtr: Ah he heard|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s4|pg|| nt|glen: trumps are three losers, and the defense attacks @S for the down trick|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|h9|pc|h8|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s7|pc|s6|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s8|pc|s9|pc|c3|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|c4|pc|c8|pc|sT|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|c11|st||md|1SK53HQT6DKQT73CT8,ST874HK97432DJCAQ,SQJ96HA8D98654C92,SA2HJ5DA2CKJ76543|sv|o|nt|bagman: Hi all|pg|| mb|p|mb|2H|nt|Gerben42: welcome back in Poznan|pg|| nt|davpro: Morning all|pg|| mb|p|nt|roswolf: hi all|pg|| mb|2N!|nt|hawe45: A splinter in North would do fine - in later defense|pg|| mb|p|nt|jbgood: hi|pg|| nt|davpro: Thx operator. It looked like an forcing pass-opening :)|pg|| mb|3C!|mb|p|nt|davpro: Who is Brogeland playing with?|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|davpro: Ah- there the name came|pg|| pc|c2|nt|hawe45: You have seen too manu bad overcalls, when you sell out with the North hand|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cT|pc|cA|pg|| nt|Gerben42: south hand is known as Bridge World Death Hand (BWDH)|pg|| nt|Gerben42: invitational values with 3-card support for partner|pg|| nt|bagman: South has a nice hand with spade values and N has an easy raise to game with 2 aces|pg|| nt|hawe45: East has built a trap - will remove to 5 @H, only losing 100 I think|pg|| nt|hawe45: Is there a reward for "slowest bid hand of the tournament" - without special reason...|pg|| nt|bridge_one: Hello all|pg|| nt|runnerup: hi all|pg|| nt|hawe45: Hello|pg|| pc|dJ|nt|Gerben42: with Qxxxx x Axxx xxx North would pass and 4@S would be cold|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dA|nt|Gerben42: but there is normally no perfect answer|pg|| pc|d7|pg|| nt|roswolf: 10 tricks are on ice here|pg|| nt|roswolf: players names will be up in a mo|pg|| nt|jbgood: going through the motions|pg|| pc|d2|nt|runnerup: looks dangerous -all tricks possible|pg|| nt|davpro: W probably showed 4@s and E might have shown 4@h. I don't know their system :(|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|cQ|pc|d4|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|s3|pg|| nt|jbgood: puppet i think - then 3@d shows 1 or 2 4 card majors, and deny 5|pg|| pc|cK|nt|hawe45: 13 tricks - over|pg|| pc|c8|nt|hawe45: or 12|pg|| pc|h3|nt|bagman: One of the answers is to use an artificial tool to separate hands with 3 card spades and those with 0-2|pg|| nt|bridge_one: and 6 is down with @H lead|pg|| nt|davpro: y- that was my guess too|pg|| pc|c9|pg|| nt|jbgood: then responder bids the suit he doesnt have |pg|| pc|cJ|pc|dT|pc|h4|pc|d8|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hT|pc|hK|nt|hawe45: Funny hand|pg|| nt|bridge_one: funny for N/S |pg|| nt|hawe45: 1590 - a score not seen so often...|pg|| pc|hA|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hJ|mc|10|pg|| qx|o12|st||md|2SA542H72DQ543CQJ6,ST63HAKJT6D97CT83,S987H9DAKJCAK9742,SKQJHQ8543DT862C5|sv|n|nt|ritong: hello there|pg|| mb|p|nt|Walddk2: Welcome to Bill Frisby|pg|| nt|athene: hi good afternoon everyone|pg|| mb|1C|mb|1H|mb|d|an|.|mb|4H|mb|d|nt|jtr: Hi Bill|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|athene: double alerted because it shows 4/5 spades? or 4+ spades?|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|glen: modern bridge: everybody bids, final contract is doubled|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|c5|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c8|pc|cK|pc|h3|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|h9|pg|| nt|jtr: 5@c goes down on a @s switch|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cA|pc|h5|pc|c6|pg|| nt|athene: 5@C might appear to have 11 tricks but a spade lead takes out the entry to the @DQ|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h7|pc|hK|pc|c2|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s9|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg|| nt|athene: or spade shift after one heart|pg|| nt|jtr: As long as West keeps the @s guard|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c12|st||md|2SA542H72DQ543CQJ6,ST63HAKJT6D97CT83,S987H9DAKJCAK9742,SKQJHQ8543DT862C5|sv|n|nt|eamongall: Here defence need to find the @C ruff in time to beat 4@Hs |pg|| nt|roswolf: 10 or 11 tricks operator?|pg|| nt|davpro: there was actually 12 to take (double dummie)|pg|| nt|pelu: hi all|pg|| mb|2D!|nt|davpro: 10 point all around. |pg|| nt|Walddk4: Welcome Peter and Murat|pg|| nt|MolvaM: hello|pg|| mb|3C|nt|bridge_one: with 6/5 and only 1 defencive trick normally better to play in attack|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|nt|runnerup: perhaps east should take it away -he has got support in hearts so ..|pg|| nt|jbgood: Angelini seems to be in the A Swiss almost no matter what happens in this match|pg|| mb|p|nt|davpro: y and Mossop will need a good result to joij them|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|nt|davpro: *join|pg|| nt|jbgood: 24 vps to Mossop |pg|| nt|jbgood: 3 from each group to A - the others to B|pg|| nt|pelu: hard decision by S - 4@H is down 1 and 5@c also down 1|pg|| nt|MolvaM: 5c looks good|pg|| nt|pelu: sorry 5@c making - only defense is @H lead and the @S - kill the entry for the 4. @D|pg|| mb|p|nt|hawe45: About 12 tricks again - but lucky and only in South|pg|| nt|bridge_one: Jxxx in @D are very much - the double by Versace means balanced hand value in @S - Zaleski can reopen|pg|| mb|p|nt|MolvaM: kibs rush in to tell me that if defence plays spades 5c cant make|pg|| pc|h7|nt|jbgood: then 27 from A and 5 from B go on to the KO stage|pg|| nt|davpro: They found a 6-1 fit instead of the 6-0 fit. On level higher though|pg|| nt|pelu: has to take 3x@C befor @D|pg|| pc|hA|nt|eamongall: the non-vul Townsend might venture an insurance 4@Hs |pg|| nt|jbgood: but I think a black suit or even NT play better than @ds|pg|| nt|davpro: y|pg|| pc|h9|nt|MolvaM: we see all 4 hands but sometimes at the table it is not obvious to shift to spades|pg|| pc|h3|pg|| nt|bridge_one: so 2@C forcing one round|pg|| nt|hawe45: Best lead: @S King|pg|| nt|hawe45: Sorry - NORTH is declarer... - wake up|pg|| nt|pelu: yes defense has to kill @SA|pg|| pc|d7|nt|roswolf: south wont get in much to lead trumps|pg|| nt|hawe45: But would also make on the @S-lead|pg|| nt|bridge_one: lead small @S possible but @H equivalent - many use to overcall 1@S in West to give the lead|pg|| nt|bridge_one: with weak 5332 i agree to pass like Versace|pg|| nt|hawe45: But an overcall would put the contract in South, so...|pg|| nt|runnerup: nothing really helps,but contracts should have been by south this time -by n= -if spade lead,but now 12|pg|| nt|bridge_one: the option between @H and @S lead is a typical problem in bridge|pg|| pc|dK|nt|eamongall: Now defence need to get active |pg|| pc|d2|pc|d3|pg|| pc|s9|nt|roswolf: and wont necessarily lead one anyway:)|pg|| nt|jbgood: hi Roland and all|pg|| nt|jbgood: sry - wrong table:)|pg|| nt|jbgood: maybe 2 |pg|| pc|sK|nt|eamongall: still time |pg|| nt|bagman: N has to duck the @HK if W plays a low heart|pg|| nt|bagman: Both N and S know that there are no spade tricks to make|pg|| nt|MolvaM: even in the case of a spade shift, stuurman has to be very careful to keep all his diamonds and let his spade honor go|pg|| pc|sA|nt|bridge_one: i prefere to lead in the suit more solid, but without a solid suit i prefere the lead from small cards - but is is only a opinion|pg|| nt|jbgood: NT is more flexible than 3@d|pg|| pc|s3|pg|| nt|bagman: They also see the clubs so they can make extra tricks only from trumps|pg|| mc|9|nt|MolvaM: 46 teams playing in group A (27 will qualify), and 74 teams playing in group B (only 5 teams will qualify)|pg|| pg|| qx|o13|st||md|3S5HAK983DQ7643C75,SQJ984HQT72DA95C8,SAT732HJDJTCAQJT2,SK6H654DK82CK9643|sv|b|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C|an|.|mb|p|nt|glen: now where will NS land on the misfit?|pg|| mb|2D|an|.|nt|jtr: Here maybe|pg|| mb|p|mb|2S|an|.|nt|jtr: Ah no|pg|| nt|athene: 2@C probably gazzilli|pg|| nt|jtr: Gazilli|pg|| nt|athene: so 2@D just 8+|pg|| nt|Walddk2: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswleaderb.html running scores|pg|| mb|p|nt|athene: now 2@S says he has a minimum hand with spades and clubs|pg|| nt|glen: yes, 2@C would show big hand or minimum with @S and @Cs|pg|| nt|jtr: Now 2@s is @ss and @cs|pg|| nt|glen: and now S bids 1NT over 2@S (when allowed)|pg|| nt|athene: south probably passes i guess|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/osw1t1-1.htm|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|h4|pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h7|pc|dJ|pc|h6|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c8|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h8|pc|hQ|pc|s2|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c7|pc|s4|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|s5|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|d3|pc|s8|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|dA|pc|dT|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s7|pc|c4|pc|d6|pg|| nt|Walddk2: After seven rounds of Swiss (2 today and 5 tomorrow), 27 teams from A and 5 from B advance to the Round of 32 on Monday|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sT|pc|c6|pc|h3|pg|| pc|hT|pc|c2|pc|c9|pc|h9|pg|| pc|d5|pc|cT|pc|dK|pc|d7|pg|| pc|d8|pc|dQ|pc|d9|pc|cJ|pg|| pg|| qx|c13|st||md|3S5HAK983DQ7643C75,SQJ984HQT72DA95C8,SAT732HJDJTCAQJT2,SK6H654DK82CK9643|sv|b|nt|runnerup: took 10 -so -1 imp|pg|| nt|MolvaM: here is the link to running scores http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswleaderb.html|pg|| mb|1S|nt|bagman: EW are currently 4th fighting for a medal|pg|| mb|p|mb|1N!|mb|p|nt|jbgood: looks like a peaceful 3 NT by N|pg|| nt|jbgood: or S for that matter|pg|| mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2H|nt|runnerup: normal 4 @h = with no other ideas -from anyone -looks like it ,but..|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|bagman: Rimsted clearly gambling with her heart suit|pg|| nt|davpro: yes. 9 easy tricks, but not the best communications...|pg|| nt|jbgood: 1 nt - 2 @h - 2 NT - 3 NT?|pg|| mb|p|nt|Gerben42: some would call it practical :)|pg|| nt|bridge_one: all colors taked by weak players :)|pg|| nt|bridge_one: North bid both, @D and @H|pg|| pc|d5|nt|MolvaM: misfit hand but contract seems makable|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dK|pc|d4|pg|| nt|pelu: 2@S in OR|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h3|nt|jbgood: N should know that the @c king counts for full - and bid 3 imo|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|davpro: They stopped low, but if @ds are not 3-3 a higher contract would be a struggle|pg|| pc|hJ|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|s6|nt|Gerben42: with a bit more fortune it would have been a claimer|pg|| nt|bagman: In pairs it might not be that practical as the bonus for the game is not that big as in teams|pg|| pc|s5|pg|| nt|bridge_one: duck this @D could be a idea|pg|| nt|hawe45: Gives the same result, if South plays safe|pg|| nt|bridge_one: but give at south the chance to fault|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d8|nt|hawe45: Absolutely|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dA|pg|| nt|pelu: the @D-lead gave S a fine tempo|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|h8|pg|| nt|MolvaM: west was somewhat stuck for a good lead|pg|| nt|pelu: 110 = 9 IMP for Monaco|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c8|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c5|pc|h2|pc|c2|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s7|nt|jbgood: the point is that you create swings when you dont bid games on 26 combined |pg|| pc|h6|pc|h9|pg|| pc|hA|nt|davpro: To be fair against N. 2N from S was perhaps a bit low (aswell)|pg|| pc|h7|pc|cT|nt|jbgood: I am sure this wil be a game swing for Angelini|pg|| pc|h4|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hT|pc|s3|pc|c3|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d9|mc|8|nt|MolvaM: 9 imp from a partscore hand is good|pg|| pg|| qx|o14|st||md|4SQ3HAKJ32DQT843C5,SJT2H97DK95CQ9862,SAK98HQ865DJ7CAKT,S7654HT4DA62CJ743|sv|o|nt|jtr: Ouch|pg|| mb|p|nt|jtr: Maybe playing Gazilli you should open 1@c with 5-5 in the blacks?|pg|| nt|glen: monday is a hard day, as the field goes from 32 to 8 in one day|pg|| mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2C|an|.|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2S|an|.|mb|p|mb|3H|an|.|mb|p|nt|glen: juniors playing modern methods, where N will ask quesitons, then surprise S with @H fit at the end|pg|| nt|glen: *questions|pg|| nt|jtr: They had better locate the missing @ds Not so easy in a bid suit|pg|| mb|3S|an|.|mb|p|mb|3N|an|.|nt|glen: auto spiral denial cuebidding will do it|pg|| mb|p|mb|4C|an|.|mb|p|nt|jtr: Hmmmm|pg|| nt|jtr: New one on me|pg|| mb|4D|an|.|nt|Walddk2: With half a twist you forgot to add|pg|| mb|p|nt|athene: it's like reverse spiral cuebidding david, just the other way round|pg|| mb|4S|an|.|nt|jtr: Degree of difficulty 9|pg|| mb|p|nt|glen: denial cuebidding = to show lack of controls in a suit, spiral = rearrange suit order|pg|| nt|jtr: Ah easy when you know how:)|pg|| nt|ritong: meanwhile, they are in danger|pg|| nt|jtr: We all are Henri|pg|| nt|ritong: yes|pg|| mb|5H|an|.|nt|Walddk2: I am not sure I want to learn this whatever it is|pg|| mb|p|nt|jtr: You dont Roland It seems to be a way of avoiding bad slams|pg|| mb|6H|nt|jtr: Not your thing at all:)|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|jtr: This one is awful even by your standards|pg|| nt|athene: hmmm well it's hard to say who is to blame here without knowing the methods exactly|pg|| nt|jtr: No @d lead J10 of @ss and QJ of @cs falling|pg|| nt|Walddk2: How much does that spiral cost?|pg|| pc|c2|nt|Walddk2: 10 imps, a steep price :)|pg|| nt|athene: one general point i think worth a mention - when you play very artificial methods, and you have a long auction looking for slam, there is a strong tendency to push for slam at the ...|pg|| nt|athene: end even if you know it's only (say) 50%|pg|| nt|athene: because you sort of feel "well, we did all this, it seems a pity just to stop in game"|pg|| nt|athene: i know that might seem a bit silly but i think it's a factor|pg|| nt|athene: one spec points out that 6@S is the slam to be in (without @D lead)|pg|| nt|Walddk2: 1@H 2NT (GF with support) ; 3@C (singleton) 3@S ; 4@H pass is an auction I can recommend|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c5|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c4|pc|h2|pc|c6|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|h5|pc|h4|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h9|pc|h6|pc|hT|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s2|pc|s8|pc|s4|pg|| pc|s3|nt|glen: roland, showing support is old-style|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sA|pc|s7|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c7|pc|d3|pc|c8|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s5|pc|d4|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s6|pc|hK|pc|c9|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|d7|pc|d2|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c14|st||md|4SQ3HAKJ32DQT843C5,SJT2H97DK95CQ9862,SAK98HQ865DJ7CAKT,S7654HT4DA62CJ743|sv|o|nt|bagman: with both spades and diamonds open 3NT requires some luck|pg|| nt|davpro: So, with less and 3-4-1-5 distibution he would always pass?|pg|| nt|jbgood: yes|pg|| nt|MolvaM: zmud has 5-5 reds again|pg|| mb|p|nt|roswolf: hi all|pg|| nt|pelu: 5@h is max|pg|| mb|1H|mb|p|nt|bridge_one: same defence in other room |pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|nt|bridge_one: 2@H is limited at 9 hcp 3 cards raise|pg|| mb|2D|nt|runnerup: you have to guess well to make 4 @h -but that is bedt|pg|| nt|hawe45: A poor 4 @H - but you might be forced to "guess" right|pg|| nt|bridge_one: East is evaluating what bid|pg|| nt|runnerup: this @d lead asked may help to get rid off spade looser|pg|| nt|jbgood: choice between dbl and 1 NT...|pg|| nt|jbgood: pass never an option for Boye on a near opener|pg|| mb|p|mb|3C!|nt|jbgood: but defense may start with 3 spades and 5 hearts|pg|| mb|p|nt|jbgood: not any more|pg|| nt|davpro: 8 quick tricks for defense here on a spade lead. 7 for declarer on that lead|pg|| nt|jbgood: 7 th in the bag|pg|| mb|3D|nt|MolvaM: lets see if they can locate the missing @d control|pg|| nt|roswolf: they should do|pg|| mb|p|nt|bagman: Declarer needs to ruff the heart losers and discard a club on a diamond|pg|| nt|hawe45: UNDO|pg|| mb|3H|mb|p|nt|roswolf: they dont have a lot of hcp to spare|pg|| nt|pelu: in OR NS in 6@H - looks like S gave a false cue bid in @D - but it was an artifical bidding over 6 round|pg|| mb|4C|nt|MolvaM: in another table north could go with J2N and that might be a problem|pg|| mb|p|nt|roswolf: i am told they are in slam in the other room|pg|| mb|4H|nt|MolvaM: well even if diamonds are not led. no way to get rid of the 2 losers|pg|| mb|p|nt|runnerup: no fight now just posible over tricks |pg|| mb|p|nt|bagman: The @DA must be with E: if W has it, then E has the clubs|pg|| nt|hawe45: But how can you play bridge - NOT leading partners suit with Ace-x???|pg|| nt|hawe45: You MUST have seen too many bad overcalls|pg|| nt|bridge_one: 2@H now|pg|| mb|p|nt|pelu: very controles bidding here|pg|| nt|roswolf: safe enough here|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c3|nt|hawe45: Happy Christmas now|pg|| nt|bridge_one: push hand|pg|| nt|runnerup: looks srange but no spade losers went away |pg|| pc|c5|pg|| pc|h5|nt|jbgood: as suggested Angeline bid and made 3 NT on the previous one|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hA|pc|h7|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h9|nt|jbgood: strange that N didnt try a big spade first...|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hT|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o15|st||md|1SJ87HK654DT94CAT5,SAQT542HQJDKCKQ93,SK6H8732DQJ72C876,S93HAT9DA8653CJ42|sv|n|nt|Walddk2: So the price was 10 IMPs + VAT = 11|pg|| mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dQ|pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|dK|pg|| nt|athene: of course declarer can throw a heart on the @DA and avoid the heart finesse, but he still has some decisions to make|pg|| nt|athene: only one entry to dummy and a lot of work to do in both black suits|pg|| nt|athene: and the possibility of getting forced|pg|| nt|athene: if you can only lead spades once from dummy you might consider cashing the ace first|pg|| nt|Walddk2: We know he can afford to cash @SA, Helgemo doesn't|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h7|pc|hA|pc|h4|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d9|pc|hJ|pc|d2|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s7|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pg|| nt|Walddk2: 1 IMP to NL|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d5|pc|dT|pc|s2|pg|| nt|Walddk2: On a bad day you go down witn this line|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c6|nt|ritong: he did not play the @d J, did he operator?|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cA|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Now he needs clubs 3-3 or 10x|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: he played J D|pg|| nt|ritong: ok ty|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Our operators don't make mistakes, players do sometimes|pg|| nt|ritong: seems so|pg|| pc|hK|pc|s4|nt|Walddk2: and commentators frequently|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h9|pg|| nt|ritong: no big deal, just seemed weird to crash known pard's @d 10|pg|| nt|Walddk2: I make my fair share|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|s9|pc|s8|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c7|pc|c4|pc|c5|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c15|st||md|1SJ87HK654DT94CAT5,SAQT542HQJDKCKQ93,SK6H8732DQJ72C876,S93HAT9DA8653CJ42|sv|n|nt|Gerben42: after 1@C the E hand is too big for 4@H I guess|pg|| nt|bagman: NS can make a minor suit slam|pg|| nt|bagman: Maybe EW have some Namyats type of device over 1m openings|pg|| nt|Gerben42: 3N-2 was only worth 20%|pg|| nt|Gerben42: last round not finished yet?|pg|| nt|bagman: If N can show real clubs, S hand becomes very valuable with the source of tricks, heart control and trump support|pg|| nt|Gerben42: if it starts 1@C 4@H, what does S bid?|pg|| nt|Gerben42: 4NT perhaps|pg|| nt|bagman: but E has a hand where she can prevent NS from changing that information. After 1@C, E can bid 4@H and then?|pg|| nt|Gerben42: esp. tough if 1@C can be short (3 or even 2 cards)|pg|| nt|bagman: if 4NT shows primary diamonds and secondary clubs then it's the bid|pg|| nt|Gerben42: the problem with such a bid is - what will pd think it is|pg|| nt|bagman: I wouldn't be surprised if there are some other agreements for the meaning of 4NT|pg|| nt|bagman: or no agreements :)|pg|| nt|Gerben42: this is an area where regular partnerships are ahead of the game|pg|| nt|bagman: 6@HX is 500; it's better than the vulnerable game for EW so they might take the sac|pg|| nt|runnerup: 11 in both tables and we though how to make 10|pg|| nt|MolvaM: specs tell me slam makable if no @d lead|pg|| nt|MolvaM: well if you can duck a diamond and then squeeze somebody afterwards :) maybe|pg|| mb|p|nt|Gerben42: something to be said for 5@H overcall too|pg|| nt|bridge_one: in 4@H in other match one made one down|pg|| nt|hawe45: 5 @D N/S should end the auction|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|nt|bagman: against a strong 1@C 5@H would be fine|pg|| nt|runnerup: 3nt also,but ew can bid more|pg|| mb|1N!|nt|roswolf: 4@S here is the likely spot|pg|| mb|p|nt|bridge_one: 5@D can be beated with @S lead|pg|| nt|runnerup: no just loose that|pg|| mb|2C!|nt|runnerup: small from table |pg|| nt|jbgood: some lucky day you make 6 @s on this lot - but not today|pg|| mb|p|mb|2D!|mb|p|nt|bridge_one: after pass at 5@C @S lead became possible|pg|| nt|hawe45: Lightner...|pg|| nt|bridge_one: @S ruff, K @C - declarer lose the ruff, one @C and A@H|pg|| mb|3S|nt|runnerup: ok wrong hand|pg|| nt|hawe45: No right hand|pg|| nt|bridge_one: many pair use pass at 5@C like OK to lead @C, instead DBL means to lead in another suit|pg|| nt|bridge_one: but i don't know the gadget played by E/W|pg|| nt|jbgood: investigating for a club contract (slam?) and got no reaction of a positive kind |pg|| mb|p|nt|runnerup: so it was all academical|pg|| mb|4S|nt|bagman: Malinowski has very little defense and can hope that they go down only 3|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|bridge_one: now np|pg|| mb|p|nt|pelu: kibs - if u know EW-bidding then help us :)|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|bagman: Good time to take the save; in pairs taking an 800 save against a making slam is not a way to win; normally you should take your chances and try to beat the slam|pg|| nt|jbgood: @d cue was what S did NOT want to get|pg|| pc|d3|nt|davpro: But from Ns view; doesn't it seem as if S hasn't got a @h cue?|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dK|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h2|pc|hA|nt|jbgood: N looks to take no notice...|pg|| nt|jbgood: S bid well - N somewhat undiciplined - slam is more like a Roland one (which in the old days would be called a Norwegian slam)|pg|| pc|h4|pg|| nt|davpro: This could take a while, but will end with 1 down...|pg|| nt|jbgood: If N has the @c Q in stead of the @d Q his hand would be better though|pg|| pc|dA|nt|bagman: (unless the slam is such that everybody bids and makes it)|pg|| pc|d9|pc|hJ|pc|d2|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s7|pc|sT|nt|roswolf: this is on track|pg|| pc|sK|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d5|pc|dT|nt|jbgood: another swing for Angelini i reckon|pg|| pc|s2|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|s9|nt|jbgood: running scores here: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/orrrunda7.html|pg|| nt|davpro: Kopecky made 6@s against Rosenthal on the j of @c lead...|pg|| pc|s8|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|c7|pc|c2|pc|sJ|pg|| nt|pelu: 1Nt = 6-11|pg|| nt|roswolf: an effortless 11 tricks|pg|| nt|pelu: 2@C = @C, 2@D relay|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c6|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pg|| pc|hK|pc|s4|pc|h3|pc|h9|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o16|st||md|2S95HAK2DQ64CKT983,SAK82HQ8754D92CQJ,SHJT93DAKJT753C64,SQJT7643H6D8CA752|sv|e|nt|jtr: Wild hand|pg|| mb|1H|nt|glen: roland, is there a convention for the W hand?|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Yes, 1@H|pg|| nt|jtr: How many @ds? 4 looks about right|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/osw1t1-1.htm|pg|| nt|ritong: seems delicate to go beyong 3NT with such a trick source and a @h stopper|pg|| nt|athene: 3nt if helness promises to lead his partner's suit|pg|| mb|4D|mb|4S|nt|ritong: but bos goes for the brutal action|pg|| nt|jtr: Helness doesnt care|pg|| mb|5D|mb|5S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|jtr: Nice 5@s|pg|| mb|p|pc|hK|nt|jtr: 5@d next door i am told|pg|| nt|athene: 5@SX-1 is par isn't it? so this was all very sensible|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hJ|pc|h6|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Yes, a rare profitable vulnerable save|pg|| nt|jtr: Hope they got this signal right|pg|| nt|jtr: @d should be ok anyway though|pg|| nt|athene: well, south shouldn't play his partner for a singleton heart - that would give declarer a heart raise, not a 4@S bid|pg|| nt|jtr: Looks like they play standard count|pg|| nt|jtr: Pointed out that the @dQ is the best card|pg|| nt|Walddk2: I think the jack is meant as a suit preference signal|pg|| nt|ritong: yes|pg|| nt|jtr: Let partner decide|pg|| nt|ritong: declarer is known with 7@s at most|pg|| nt|ritong: say he has zero @d|pg|| nt|ritong: that leaves six cards between @cs and @hs|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h3|pc|s3|pg|| nt|jtr: Then we will make a @c|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|d3|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s9|pc|sK|pc|d5|pg|| mc|12|nt|Walddk2: This won't cost a lot when N-S are in 5@D next door|pg|| nt|jtr: Not +1|pg|| nt|glen: @C K = just making|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Michal?|pg|| nt|Walddk2: 5SE=|pg|| pg|| qx|c16|st||md|2S95HAK2DQ64CKT983,SAK82HQ8754D92CQJ,SHJT93DAKJT753C64,SQJT7643H6D8CA752|sv|e|nt|bagman: If declarer planned to steal a the spade, she should have tried it before drawing trumps; the early play should have been either the steal attempt or claim -3 :)|pg|| nt|bridge_one: in other room the auction was different, so the lead was @C|pg|| nt|jbgood: nice major fits around the table|pg|| nt|jbgood: I may just have to stand corrected - i am told that Angelini in the OR also bid to 6 @s|pg|| nt|davpro: There will be (high) bidding :)|pg|| mb|1H|mb|2D!|nt|roswolf: this could be colorful|pg|| mb|3S|nt|MolvaM: 2d alerted?|pg|| nt|roswolf: yeah @D:)|pg|| nt|MolvaM: ok means no 4 card spades|pg|| mb|d|nt|bridge_one: 3@H for N/S and 3@S for E/W here|pg|| nt|runnerup: may end for double partscore swing|pg|| nt|MolvaM: thanks kibs|pg|| nt|roswolf: yes they use 1NT to show 4 spades +a longer minor|pg|| nt|MolvaM: Im told zmud-bal play the raptor convention |pg|| nt|roswolf: west has an automatic 4@S|pg|| nt|MolvaM: maybe invented by a mr raptor? :)|pg|| nt|pelu: par-contract is 6@d - 5@s and 5@d making|pg|| nt|MolvaM: west thinks abt how many spades to bid?|pg|| nt|pelu: red against green 4@S is fine|pg|| mb|4S|nt|bridge_one: 2@H open probably 10/12 constructive (and 2@D multi)|pg|| nt|davpro: When preempting with 3 in a minor you normally do not have a 4 card major. Nothing said about 5 card suits :)|pg|| mb|5D|nt|jbgood: hehe|pg|| nt|roswolf: DBL presumably just shows cards|pg|| mb|p|nt|roswolf: well now judgment comes into it|pg|| nt|MolvaM: 5 level belongs to the opps :)|pg|| nt|pelu: diff to decide on 5-level|pg|| nt|roswolf: south tempted to bid 6?|pg|| nt|MolvaM: zmud cant be sure of void spades so will probably pass|pg|| mb|p|nt|pelu: for sure W cant bid 5@s - but I have been wrong before :)|pg|| mb|p|nt|bagman: Having showed 44 majors and getting no reaction from partner, W could show his 3 card support expecting to be in a decent trump suit|pg|| pc|h6|nt|eamongall: If anybody is following a pair you can find their probable table from the following |pg|| nt|jbgood: Boye may lead a club now and get a plus score ag 5|pg|| nt|roswolf: i think it was the @C position which influenced him more|pg|| nt|roswolf: not much to the play the club ace is right or it isnt:)|pg|| pc|hA|nt|bagman: S wants to compete but the majors are behind her so she gives up|pg|| nt|bridge_one: Q@C help ,,, opps |pg|| pc|h8|pc|h3|pg|| nt|bridge_one: OK|pg|| nt|roswolf: the clubs can of course be set up here for 12 tricks|pg|| nt|pelu: 1@H - 4@D - 4@S - 5@D and 51S by Helgemo!|pg|| nt|pelu: 15 INP to Monaco |pg|| nt|MolvaM: no so easy if east ducks|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sA|nt|jbgood: even 6@h a good save over 4@s:)|pg|| nt|jbgood: spade ace and a club takes it 1 down|pg|| nt|davpro: Defense better take their tricks at once...|pg|| pc|d3|nt|jbgood: north really bid his hand to the limit:)|pg|| pc|s3|pg|| nt|MolvaM: 15 how? 5s cant be made I think|pg|| pc|dT|nt|eamongall: We are covering tables 8-15 as shown on the results web page ... so the bottom 8 lines are tables H G F E A B C D in that order |pg|| nt|jbgood: @s 6 for a club now|pg|| pc|d8|nt|jbgood: Boye should be able to read that|pg|| nt|roswolf: and probably on this layout so can 6@D|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d2|pg|| pc|d7|nt|eamongall: http://b.poznan2011.pl/mxp/fa.html|pg|| pc|s4|nt|davpro: E could hold 764 from W view|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d9|pg|| pc|s9|nt|eamongall: this is table 13 of 15 in play tables and 3rd line from bottom of scoresheet |pg|| pc|s8|nt|jbgood: but difficult to think that prd has 5 spades (and a @c void...)|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|s7|pg|| nt|pelu: sorry 5@S down 1 - so only 7 IMP|pg|| pc|c4|nt|bagman: Now E can ruff the diamond and try the heart to the K|pg|| nt|eamongall: Most pairs move to the table of the pair below them next ... ie 12 goes where 11 used to be |pg|| pc|c2|nt|jbgood: no - then the 7 for his known strenth|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cJ|pg|| mc|11|nt|roswolf: well THE RESULT IN THE OTHER ROOM SPEAKS FOT ITSELF|pg|| nt|MolvaM: wow|pg|| nt|MolvaM: amazingly 5s was made. cant see how|pg|| pg|| qx|o17|st||md|3S43HAKDAK542CT976,SQJ762HJT54D9CKQ5,S95H98732D763C842,SAKT8HQ6DQJT8CAJ3|sv|o|nt|Walddk2: sorry 5SE=|pg|| mb|p|nt|Walddk2: corrected|pg|| nt|glen: no, just passed|pg|| mb|1N|nt|jtr: same IMPs|pg|| mb|2C|nt|Walddk2: He is celebrating his Yarborough|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|nt|jtr: Pass missing|pg|| mb|2S|nt|jtr: By North Michal|pg|| nt|glen: did N pysche after a bad result?|pg|| mb|p|nt|jtr: Another one!|pg|| mb|4S|nt|jtr: That dfies the odds 2 in 2 days|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|jtr: defies|pg|| mb|p|pc|dK|nt|jtr: X was Stayman |pg|| pc|d9|pc|d3|pc|d8|pg|| nt|jtr: A common method after 2@c|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|h6|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h5|pc|h3|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c5|pc|c2|pc|cJ|pg|| nt|jtr: As a spec points out, South did well not to double|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c17|st||md|3S43HAKDAK542CT976,SQJ762HJT54D9CKQ5,S95H98732D763C842,SAKT8HQ6DQJT8CAJ3|sv|o|nt|hawe45: 4 @S making - good luck|pg|| nt|jbgood: playing for the singleton jack with E:) |pg|| nt|davpro: @c to T was obviously wrong if E has 2 @c...I'm sleeping|pg|| nt|jbgood: not the precentage play:)|pg|| nt|davpro: no- @c 2-2|pg|| nt|jbgood: yes|pg|| nt|jbgood: sleeping too:)|pg|| mb|p|nt|bridge_one: 5@H 2 down|pg|| mb|1N|nt|roswolf: hmm mysterious|pg|| nt|pelu: @H AK |pg|| nt|MolvaM: ahh defence played @hAK|pg|| mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2S|nt|bridge_one: 4@S correct bid !|pg|| nt|MolvaM: well that was a bit of a careless defence I thk|pg|| nt|roswolf: indeed|pg|| mb|p|nt|jbgood: 5@s made on the unfortunate lead of the @c ace next door|pg|| nt|jbgood: doubled to boot|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|nt|runnerup: north has not found hearts obfiously -so svedish increasing lead perhaps|pg|| mb|p|nt|bagman: E doesn't want to lead from her collection|pg|| nt|bagman: Every card might be right or wrong|pg|| mb|p|nt|roswolf: well a simple 4@S on this one|pg|| nt|MolvaM: but congrats geoffrey for yr prediction powers|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|h7|nt|MolvaM: u sensed that defence coming and predicted 5s making :)|pg|| pc|h6|pg|| nt|pelu: easy game here - time to go for coffee :)|pg|| nt|pelu: but go fast :)|pg|| nt|MolvaM: here is the running scores and current ranking http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswleaderb.html|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h3|pc|hQ|pg|| nt|MolvaM: 46 teams playing in group A (27 will qualify), and 74 teams playing in group B (only 5 teams will qualify)|pg|| nt|roswolf: you need to qualify for SWISS A then:)|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o18|st||md|4S865HAJ93DAQ93C94,S92HQ864DJT6CKQJ6,SAKQJ74H5D542CA82,ST3HKT72DK87CT753|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|nt|Walddk2: A Yarborough is a hand without any honours (10 or above). The odds of holding a Yarborough is 1827 to 1. Knowing the high improbability of a player holding such a hand, Lord ...|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Yarborough of England had a standing offer of 1000 to 1 to wager that a player would receive a hand with a card above a 9 spot|pg|| mb|1S|mb|d|mb|2C|mb|p|nt|jtr: Both days it was North with the Yabs he could have cleaned up|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c5|pc|c4|pc|cJ|pc|c2|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sK|nt|jtr: Better technique|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s5|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s6|pc|s9|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|h4|pg|| nt|ritong: standard tech with @ds is a @d to the 9|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h6|pc|s4|pc|h7|pg|| nt|ritong: first, you try to find J10 onside, if if fails you still have K on option|pg|| nt|jtr: Trying KQx@h en route|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d8|pc|d9|pc|dT|pg|| nt|jtr: en route is French Henri Ok with you?:)|pg|| nt|ritong: oui|pg|| pc|cK|nt|jtr: bien|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c9|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c7|pc|s8|pc|c6|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h8|pc|s7|pc|hT|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|hK|pc|d3|nt|jtr: Could also be a show-up squeeze but you would never know|pg|| pc|d6|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|dQ|pc|dJ|pg|| nt|jtr: Maybe East should throw the @hK and look like it is?|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c18|st||md|4S865HAJ93DAQ93C94,S92HQ864DJT6CKQJ6,SAKQJ74H5D542CA82,ST3HKT72DK87CT753|sv|n|nt|eamongall: My good friends here McGann and Brown |pg|| nt|eamongall: they owe me several pints of guiness |pg|| nt|bridge_one: 4@S made in other room ecause duck the A in @D|pg|| nt|jbgood: 4@s and coffee time|pg|| nt|davpro: I've got coffee all the time :)|pg|| mb|p|nt|MolvaM: yes. but could be more difficult to stay in the top 27 there|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1S|nt|runnerup: nothing should happen here but ..|pg|| mb|p|nt|roswolf: indeed|pg|| mb|2C!|nt|Walddk2: Welcome to Barbara Apel|pg|| nt|barbyh: hi all, Barbara from Las vegas|pg|| mb|p|mb|4S|nt|eamongall: a decent score for NS for 1NT up 2 on board 7 |pg|| nt|bagman: The spade lead was unlucky for NS|pg|| mb|p|nt|eamongall: well there is a generous lead from McGann he won;t be happy |pg|| nt|hawe45: A fast - flat - board|pg|| mb|p|nt|bridge_one: i bet 10 tricks here :)|pg|| mb|p|pc|h7|pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|h5|pg|| nt|barbyh: could have heldthem to 1 less|pg|| nt|bagman: There is a theory, which states that against blind 3NT one should lead from the worse 4-carder from a 4432|pg|| nt|barbyh: against matchpoints or imps?|pg|| nt|bagman: both|pg|| nt|bagman: I don't subscribe to that theory but I was told that it was backed up by a huge simulation|pg|| nt|eamongall: The good news for McGann on the last board is some 3NT+2 company is appearing ...|pg|| nt|bagman: who knows; at least it makes leading easy|pg|| nt|barbyh: true, |pg|| nt|barbyh: well in this case lead from a club and you holdthemto 4|pg|| nt|bagman: The diamond lead (suggested by the theory) holds the contract to 4, too|pg|| nt|MolvaM: after tomorrow evening the knockouts will start with 32 teams|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cJ|pc|c2|pc|c3|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s5|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sT|nt|davpro: the @d losers vanished|pg|| nt|jbgood: not easy to find the @d lead|pg|| nt|davpro: nope|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s9|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c9|pc|c6|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c7|pc|s8|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h6|pc|s4|pc|h2|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|cT|pc|d3|pc|h8|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d8|pc|d9|pc|dT|pg|| pc|cK|pc|s7|pc|hT|pc|h9|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d7|pc|dQ|pc|dJ|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o19|st||md|1SA7HQJ95DJT87CJT9,SQT643HDKQ2CAQ432,SJHKT8763DA65C765,SK9852HA42D943CK8|sv|e|mb|p|nt|jtr: Nah Wont work|pg|| mb|1S|mb|2H|mb|2N|an|.|nt|Walddk2: I am not madly in love with 2@H, are you?|pg|| nt|ritong: before raising to 4@s, helness indicates he has a balanced hand|pg|| nt|jtr: Not so bad facing a passed partner|pg|| nt|ritong: i am not scandalized with 2@h|pg|| mb|4H|nt|jtr: Would be dreeadful if partner had not passed|pg|| nt|jtr: dreadful|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Not until you concede 800 against nothing|pg|| nt|Walddk2: LHO is unpassed|pg|| mb|d|an|.|mb|p|mb|4S|nt|jtr: If the worst thing my partner ever did was bid 2@h i would be in heaven:)|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|jtr: No thinking of bidding 5@h|pg|| nt|jtr: Now|pg|| nt|jtr: Which might get out for 500|pg|| nt|jtr: Although Roland's 800 might come into play again|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Richly deserved|pg|| mb|p|nt|glen: 5@H is such a poor bid long term, needing 4@S to make, enough to prevent -800|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hA|pc|h5|nt|jtr: Yes, unless partner had made a jump fit say|pg|| pc|c2|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|sJ|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Last round today in about 25 minutes (make that 35)|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dQ|pc|dA|nt|Walddk2: Not so easy to get 1200 players seated|pg|| pc|d3|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c19|st||md|1SA7HQJ95DJT87CJT9,SQT643HDKQ2CAQ432,SJHKT8763DA65C765,SK9852HA42D943CK8|sv|e|nt|bagman: I probably would have lead the @S, too :( (maybe there's something in that theory, after all)|pg|| nt|hawe45: West must play this 3 NT|pg|| nt|roswolf: more distributional hands|pg|| mb|p|nt|runnerup: 3nt in wrong hand so chance for Zaleski|pg|| nt|hawe45: South led a small @C, but East had to go wrong|pg|| mb|1S|nt|bridge_one: no|pg|| nt|MolvaM: we just love deals with a void rite? :)|pg|| nt|roswolf: :)|pg|| nt|pelu: 11 tricks in @s|pg|| mb|p|nt|bridge_one: 1@D 3@D easy ...|pg|| nt|runnerup: 3nt opening not everyones choice|pg|| mb|2N!|mb|p|nt|MolvaM: 2nt is?|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|runnerup: winnig some ipms strange way|pg|| nt|hawe45: To miss this 5 @D - played by West - will bring Zaleski 8 IMP|pg|| nt|jbgood: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/orrrunda7.html enables you to follow the exciting fights for 3rd place in some of the groups|pg|| mb|p|nt|roswolf: this looks boring with no heart barrage|pg|| nt|MolvaM: spade fit and?|pg|| nt|pelu: 5@H could cost 500|pg|| nt|MolvaM: 5@h could just escape for down 3 I guess|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cK|nt|bagman: W has so much extras that he can afford to bid the game in NT instead of looking for the spades|pg|| nt|jbgood: 3 teams go to the A Swiss - and the others to B|pg|| pc|cT|nt|davpro: 9 tricks in NT here|pg|| pc|c2|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sA|nt|bridge_one: 4@D great choice by Versace|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sJ|pg|| nt|runnerup: perhaps even he didnt expect mojor Q eens to table |pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d4|nt|jbgood: i guess they play 2@c as game force - but not sure. if so, E may have regretted his pass, 3 nt always on|pg|| nt|MolvaM: 4s showed fit+limit hand|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o20|st||md|2SK3HQJT52DQ8743C3,SQ96HA876DAKCQJ76,SJT82HKDT9652CKT2,SA754H943DJCA9854|sv|b|nt|Walddk2: Last board of the match|pg|| nt|ritong: so a painful start for the orange youngsters|pg|| mb|1N|nt|Walddk2: Thanks to Michal, David, Bill, Glen and Henri|pg|| mb|p|nt|jtr: Thank you Roland|pg|| mb|3D|nt|ritong: they will have to struggle to finish in the top 27|pg|| mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|nt|jtr: I forget how many matches 7 is it?|pg|| mb|3S|nt|ritong: yup|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: 3@D 4315 or 3415|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|jtr: 3NT has problems|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pg|| nt|jtr: Like only having 8 tricks for a start|pg|| nt|Walddk2: As in can't make?|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c3|pg|| pc|c4|nt|Walddk2: But no game can|pg|| pc|h2|pc|cJ|pc|c2|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cT|nt|glen: can he scramble 2@S and 4@C and 2@D and 1@H before @Ds are set up - no, unless the defense lets him|pg|| pc|c9|pc|h5|pg|| pc|d2|pc|h3|pc|d8|pc|dA|pg|| pc|c7|nt|jtr: Low @d?|pg|| pc|s2|pc|c8|nt|jtr: Now a guess|pg|| pc|d3|pg|| pc|c5|nt|ritong: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswleaderb.html|pg|| pc|d7|pc|h6|nt|jtr: Has declarer got KQ@s or @hA|pg|| pc|d6|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|s9|nt|jtr: Maybe you are cooked if he has the @ss|pg|| pc|sT|pg|| pc|d9|pc|s5|pc|d4|pc|h7|pg|| pc|dT|pc|h4|pc|hT|pc|h8|pg|| pc|s8|nt|jtr: ah homicide|pg|| nt|ritong: final stab i d say|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Still on a guess|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sK|pc|s6|pg|| mc|8|nt|Walddk2: and misguessed|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Thanks all|pg|| nt|jtr: Thanks for watching Welcome back soon|pg|| pg|| qx|c20|st||md|2SK3HQJT52DQ8743C3,SQ96HA876DAKCQJ76,SJT82HKDT9652CKT2,SA754H943DJCA9854|sv|b|nt|jbgood: last one in the round robin |pg|| nt|jbgood: and cards lie badly for EW|pg|| nt|roswolf: We are now on the last board of the set. Thanks to our operator - Great Job! Our appreciation to all the organisers for ensuring that this fine event is brought to BBO vugraph. ...|pg|| nt|roswolf: Thanks too to my very learned fellow commentators Murat and Peter for their company and perceptive comments and to our specs whose contributions keep us on our toes.|pg|| nt|MolvaM: ok last board of the match|pg|| nt|MolvaM: next match to start in 29 minutes|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2H|nt|MolvaM: now 28 :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|2N|nt|bagman: EW can make here 10 tricks in NT on a club lead 11 tricks otherwise|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|nt|davpro: What have I missed in the bidding?|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d5|nt|pelu: only 8 trick|pg|| nt|MolvaM: good lead|pg|| pc|dJ|nt|bagman: E bid 3NT to show the spade stopper in case W was interested in that; If W had a huge @H raise, he would not pass 3NT|pg|| nt|davpro: W probably showed a M?|pg|| nt|davpro: 2@d balanced hand , 3@c a major, 4@d ask major (according to a kib)|pg|| nt|jbgood: probably|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dK|pg|| nt|pelu: @S-lead would have given the 9. trick|pg|| nt|MolvaM: normal lead actually but sometimes people dont like to lead from 5 small minors and choose a major|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cK|nt|jbgood: the curse of underleading aces|pg|| nt|davpro: :)|pg|| nt|jbgood: but still down|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c3|pg|| pc|c4|nt|pelu: but the good old rule 4. best in yout longest suit :) - and here East has indicatet 4 card @s|pg|| nt|MolvaM: right peter :)|pg|| pc|h2|pc|cJ|pc|c2|pg|| nt|MolvaM: specs tell me board 17 was doubled in other room|pg|| pc|c7|nt|bagman: Declarer is going to run the diamonds hoping for too many heart discards|pg|| pc|cT|nt|MolvaM: if thats the case 5 imps more could go to monaco-Z |pg|| pc|c5|nt|runnerup: killing lead |pg|| nt|MolvaM: well we shall see|pg|| nt|roswolf: hmm the juniors have been brushed aside|pg|| pc|h5|pg|| pc|dT|pc|h3|nt|davpro: Does S know who has got the @d 4?|pg|| pc|d8|pc|dA|pg|| nt|roswolf: scheduled re-start in 22mins approx from now|pg|| nt|pelu: no X when I see the bidding in OR (direct on the tabler)|pg|| pc|c6|pc|s2|pc|c8|pc|d7|pg|| nt|bagman: There's no legitimate squeeze but it costs nothing to try|pg|| pc|c9|pc|d3|nt|davpro: I need some sleep. Thx all kibs for pointing out my stupidity|pg|| nt|dburn: I doubt he cares all that much about the four, given what happened to the ace|pg|| pc|h7|pc|s8|pg|| nt|pelu: nice discarding by NS|pg|| nt|roswolf: yes careful|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sK|pc|s6|pc|sT|pg|| nt|jbgood: bye all|pg|| nt|davpro: bye all. I enjoyed as always.|pg|| pc|d4|pc|h6|pc|d9|pc|h4|pg|| pc|d6|mc|8|nt|roswolf: the last rites|pg|| nt|pelu: same start in OR - the first 5 tricks|pg|| nt|roswolf: bye for now see you back in 20mins|pg|| pg||