vg|AA EC 2011 Semi finals - teams OPEN,2_2,I,15,28,Monaco A,12,Bessis,34| rs|6HS=,6HS=,3HW-1,5CS-1,6DE=,6NE=,3NS-1,3HN=,6SS=,7SS-1,3NW+2,3NE+2,2SW=,2HN-1,4CN+2,3DW+1,2HS=,2HS=,2SW=,2SW=,2HW+1,2SS+1,4HS+1,4HN+1,3HW-1,4HW-2,4HN-1,4SW-1| pn|Quantin,Smirnov,Bompis,Piekarek,Bessis_M,Allavena,Bessis_T,Frey|pg|| qx|o15|st||md|1SAQ875HKJ73DAQ3C7,SJ3H92DJT7CAQ9853,SKT2HAQT5DK82CK64,S964H864D9654CJT2|sv|n|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2C|nt|glen: here we go, thanks for the score correction|pg|| mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|3H|nt|glen: nice board to start with|pg|| nt|glen: double major fit|pg|| nt|yuval10: looks like an easy slam though|pg|| nt|vugraphpl2: there was wrong result in the bridgemate in 5th board, now the result is correct|pg|| mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|nt|glen: 3NT is not natural, but "serious 3NT"|pg|| nt|vugraphpl2: so 22 IMP difference|pg|| nt|vugraphpl2: the players are the same :)|pg|| mb|4D|mb|p|nt|glen: serious 3NT shows nice hand for slam, suggests that partner keep on cuebidding|pg|| mb|4N|mb|p|mb|5C|mb|p|nt|yuval10: can N be sure about Q@s now?|pg|| mb|6H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: Welcome to Yuval and Gerben|pg|| pc|dJ|nt|glen: hi Yuval, Gerben :)|pg|| nt|yuval10: hi all|pg|| nt|Gerben42: sorry would love to watch but must go :(|pg|| nt|glen: the style of the Bessis is to not give up IMPs easily|pg|| nt|Walddk2: We also have Julian among us|pg|| nt|glen: bye Gerben, and hi Julian|pg|| nt|vugraphpl2: running scores, byt here there are still not correct http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/osfrunda1.html|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d4|pc|d3|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h4|pc|h3|pc|h2|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h6|pc|hJ|pc|h9|pg|| pc|h7|pc|c3|pc|hA|pc|h8|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|s5|pc|s3|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|sA|pc|sJ|pg|| nt|yorkbeach: Hello everyone|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|c2|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|c15|st||md|1SAQ875HKJ73DAQ3C7,SJ3H92DJT7CAQ9853,SKT2HAQT5DK82CK64,S964H864D9654CJT2|sv|n|nt|blum1956: hi all|pg|| nt|hedyg: good afternoon and welcome back to the 5th European Open Championships, Poznan, Poland. A Swiss teams ,Round 5/7, 10 boards / round|pg|| nt|jfaria: hi all|pg|| nt|kiwibridge: hi Bob and all, yes what a treat|pg|| nt|bigtrain: good morning all|pg|| nt|kiwibridge: hi Kit|pg|| nt|kiwibridge: and Walter|pg|| nt|hawe45: hi|pg|| nt|rcerreto: hi all|pg|| nt|ralfwil: hello everyone|pg|| nt|rcerreto: hi Ralf|pg|| nt|ralfwil: hello Rodolfo|pg|| mb|1S|nt|roswolf: std pre-empt|pg|| nt|hedyg: great!|pg|| nt|bobholl: at least one dutchman going trolugh in this match :)|pg|| nt|bobholl: trough|pg|| nt|blum1956: hi all|pg|| nt|rcerreto: a slam to start with?|pg|| mb|p|nt|hedyg: good morning and welcome back to the 5th European Open Championships, Poznan, Poland. A Swiss teams ,Round 4/7, 10 boards / round|pg|| nt|hedyg: welcome Geoffrey Wolfarth |pg|| nt|glen: hi Hedy, Geoffrey|pg|| nt|hedyg: and Glen :)|pg|| nt|roswolf: hello:)|pg|| nt|roswolf: action bd to start|pg|| nt|3for3: Hi all|pg|| nt|jcomyn: what a horrible 2d|pg|| nt|rmb1: Hi and we are off|pg|| mb|2C|nt|jfaria: hi John, they are jrs :)|pg|| nt|jcomyn: I really hate that weak 2d system it is pointless|pg|| nt|jcomyn: hi joao - well thats one reason but they shouldnt learn bad habits early|pg|| nt|panja: hi all|pg|| nt|bobholl: peacefull @C partscore|pg|| mb|p|nt|hedyg: our operator is Tadeusz|pg|| nt|roswolf: hi all|pg|| nt|hedyg: welcome Geoffrey Wolfarth |pg|| nt|hedyg: hi Danny :) ty for joining!|pg|| nt|roswolf: hi danny|pg|| nt|3for3: 4|pg|| nt|jfaria: Meckstroth playing 4@s x in open room|pg|| nt|rmb1: Interesting shape for 2|pg|| nt|rmb1: @H|pg|| mb|2H|nt|rcerreto: here we are back|pg|| mb|p|nt|hedyg: good afternoon and welcome back to the 5th European Open Championships, Poznan, Poland. A Swiss teams ,Round 6/7, 10 boards / round|pg|| nt|hedyg: our operator is Tadeusz|pg|| nt|hedyg: welcome Geoffrey Wolfarth |pg|| nt|roswolf: hi all|pg|| nt|hedyg: http://www.bbotv.com/vugraph/ for BBO TV since BBO mobile is not working|pg|| mb|3H|nt|roswolf: :)gm hedy|pg|| nt|hedyg: our operator is Tadeusz|pg|| nt|granguru: hi all|pg|| nt|granguru: hi hedy|pg|| nt|glen: what should S lead?|pg|| mb|p|nt|ntmon: hi to everyone|pg|| nt|MolvaM: hello all|pg|| nt|hedyg: hi John|pg|| nt|glen: hi Murat :)|pg|| nt|MolvaM: hi Hedy, John|pg|| nt|MolvaM: hi Glen|pg|| nt|hedyg: Murat :)|pg|| nt|roswolf: hi everyone|pg|| nt|glen: S attacks the 6-5 suit|pg|| nt|glen: only 6 stoppers since suit splits|pg|| nt|granguru: I feel Jxxx is the worst lead to make in a 3NT contract|pg|| nt|hedyg: http://www.bbotv.com/vugraph/ for BBO TV since BBO mobile is not working|pg|| nt|panja: if it is 5-5 per system, E should perhaps have tried to play in 5m|pg|| nt|ralfwil: and doesn´t matter in which major and 6nt on N|pg|| nt|rcerreto: 6@h better than 6@s where a 4-1 split could set|pg|| nt|Walddk2: shut down pls, IMP score incorrect|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Maria did|pg|| nt|rcerreto: being @s 3-2, it makes no difference|pg|| nt|Walddk2: pls do it now and reconnect|pg|| mb|3N|nt|rcerreto: is the score right, now?|pg|| mb|p|nt|jcomyn: that seems daft with 5h makeable|pg|| nt|jfaria: first board... W stood quiet|pg|| nt|jcomyn: do u bid 4nt w?|pg|| nt|hawe45: 3 NT is the spot here|pg|| nt|rcerreto: is in the French style 3NT a "serious" slam try like in the US?|pg|| mb|4C|nt|blum1956: 5 nj 6 tricks probably|pg|| nt|roswolf: normal contract|pg|| nt|hedyg: i feel 4th from longest and strongest works best except from an ace|pg|| nt|3for3: 4@C will find hearts, but at the cost of being too high. Meck likeds the double fit potential|pg|| nt|roswolf: feisty bidding|pg|| nt|mdgraham: good morning from London|pg|| mb|p|nt|roswolf: a very sharp double|pg|| nt|hedyg: system summary for EW: http://usbf.org/index2.php?option=com_teamforms&task=display&pop=1&page=0&fid=763&pid=193|pg|| nt|dburn: that was pretty well judged by East|pg|| nt|roswolf: seems pretty normal bur the play is the thing|pg|| nt|hedyg: fficial website is : http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg|| nt|roswolf: yes david - pity he is still anonymous|pg|| nt|hedyg: http://www.bbotv.com/vugraph/ for BBO TV since BBO mobile is not working|pg|| nt|3for3: obvious singleton lead.|pg|| nt|roswolf: finis|pg|| nt|fokal: not for the french, but for this pair yes|pg|| mb|4D|nt|Walddk4: Good morning everyone|pg|| nt|mdgraham: and a good close match in prospect|pg|| nt|MolvaM: hello all|pg|| nt|rcerreto: seemed like that|pg|| nt|ralfwil: hello Oliv|pg|| nt|fokal: hello|pg|| mb|p|nt|granguru: partner must have around 8 points so my first choice is @d10 then a small @C|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Commentators are Mike, Murat and David|pg|| nt|hawe45: But also 4 @H, naturally|pg|| mb|4H|nt|ntmon: Open teams, 3rd round of Swiss just started|pg|| nt|athene: hi good morning everyone|pg|| nt|roswolf: always lead a major against this bidding :) mind you i would have led a spade:(|pg|| nt|dburn: mind you, he may wish he had a spade higher than the eight|pg|| nt|jfaria: chances are to play for A@c onside ...|pg|| mb|p|nt|hedyg: and i strongly dislike leading from a doubleton if pd didnt bid the suit|pg|| nt|glen: small @C would produce -400|pg|| nt|blum1956: A simple board just for the start|pg|| nt|fokal: I'm moving between tables, (my other is also playing :) )|pg|| nt|rcerreto: a pair you know pretty well, I think :)|pg|| nt|fokal: mother|pg|| mb|4S|an| |nt|hedyg: BBO mobile is still not working so pls use: http://www.bbotv.com/vugraph/|pg|| nt|hedyg: hi Bill|pg|| nt|roswolf: hi bill|pg|| nt|roswolf: north thinks safety first|pg|| nt|roswolf: poor raise imo|pg|| nt|roswolf: even with a 20 hcp hand the bidding suggests a lack of tricks|pg|| nt|roswolf: but the cards are kind|pg|| mb|p|nt|blum1956: 5 to 6|pg|| nt|bobholl: won't work indeed :)|pg|| nt|bobholl: may be now :)|pg|| mb|5C|mb|p|nt|roswolf: so we would have all let this through:)|pg|| nt|hedyg: results and running scores: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswleaderb.html|pg|| nt|fokal: S doesn' know what's going on in @s, (in everywhere actually), so he is letting his partner take action|pg|| nt|fokal: oups|pg|| mb|5D|nt|roswolf: now that is a dumb lead @sA is stand out|pg|| nt|leao: hello all from são paulo, brazil|pg|| nt|MolvaM: hi mike, david :)|pg|| nt|ady: good morning all|pg|| nt|fokal: 4 @s is a blackwood, I remember now|pg|| mb|p|mb|5S|nt|jcomyn: no problem with this but brave bid|pg|| nt|hawe45: My grandmother would have claimed|pg|| nt|rcerreto: then 5@c makes sense othewise it'd have been odd|pg|| mb|p|nt|hedyg: running scores: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswrunda7.html|pg|| nt|jfaria: so probably -1|pg|| mb|6H|nt|roswolf: hmm strange start|pg|| nt|bobholl: but what else :)|pg|| nt|roswolf: but a spade sinks this now|pg|| nt|bigtrain: hey kit, what do you think about 1NT vs X with south?|pg|| nt|MolvaM: both teams have changed one pair for the second half of the match|pg|| mb|p|nt|jcomyn: could also play for doubleton ace|pg|| mb|p|nt|hedyg: hi David :)|pg|| mb|p|nt|dburn: but not now - Meckstroth needed to start eliminating the hearts|pg|| nt|fokal: 5 @d asking for @h Q 5 @s = yes with K of @s|pg|| pc|cA|nt|kit: declarer can play spades while club entry is there|pg|| nt|mdgraham: bet Mahaffey hasn't benched Meckstroth-Rodwell|pg|| nt|rcerreto: simple and effective|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Welcome to Peter Lund|pg|| nt|rcerreto: hi Peter|pg|| nt|fokal: that's why I realized :) At first I didn't understand 5 @c|pg|| nt|pelu: hi all|pg|| nt|ralfwil: hej Peter;)|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cJ|pc|c7|pg|| nt|hedyg: running scores: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswleaderb.html|pg|| nt|fokal: hi|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c6|nt|bigtrain: personally i like 1NT|pg|| pc|c2|pc|h3|pg|| nt|roswolf: 3ntx may well have made|pg|| nt|leao: well defended|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h2|nt|MolvaM: so the target at the end of today is to stay at the top 27 in group A, and top 5 in group B|pg|| pc|h5|nt|granguru: nice deception|pg|| nt|dburn: then, he could have reached a position where he threw a diamond on the king of spades, and another on the eight|pg|| nt|dburn: and another on the ruff and discard that West would have had to give him|pg|| nt|roswolf: poof declarer will end up on the embankment - draw trumps and take the club finesse -real simple|pg|| pc|h4|pg|| nt|hedyg: i will get the CCs|pg|| nt|roswolf: looks -1 for a 5 imp pickup for kamras|pg|| nt|hedyg: EW CC: http://www.ecatsbridge.org/documents/files/ConventionCards/2008Pau-european/OpenTeams/Sweden/cullin-upmark.pdf|pg|| nt|kit: no strong preference|pg|| mc|12|nt|leao: rite.. but he gave the defence a chance...|pg|| nt|bobholl: how get to dummy for a 2nd @C finesse ?|pg|| pg|| qx|o16|st||md|2SAHAQT2DT532CA942,SQ5HKJ9763DAQCK63,SJ98642HDK74CQJT7,SKT73H854DJ986C85|sv|e|nt|yuval10: hi|pg|| mb|1H|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|yorkbeach: tough decision for West|pg|| nt|glen: i like double, just to see N sweat|pg|| nt|yorkbeach: extras but are they enough to X and tehn change 3@d to 3@h?|pg|| mb|d|nt|glen: nothing like J98642 for trumps and waiting to see if the double is passed|pg|| mb|p|mb|3H|nt|yorkbeach: East has too many @h to pass as it happens|pg|| nt|vugraphpl2: running scores http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/osfrunda1.html|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: for EW 1@H opening is limited to 18 HCP except for some good 2-suiters|pg|| mb|p|nt|vugraphpl2: information www.poznan2011.pl |pg|| nt|glen: hi Al :)|pg|| nt|vugraphpl2: schedule www.poznan2011.pl/schedule|pg|| nt|vugraphpl2: bulletin www.poznan2011.pl/bulletins|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c5|nt|vugraphpl2: so 13 boards to go|pg|| nt|glen: beer rankings: http://b.poznan2011.pl/beergardenrankings.html |pg|| nt|vugraphpl2: 22IMP difference|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cK|pg|| nt|glen: oh wait, last link not running yet|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cT|pc|c8|nt|yorkbeach: probably heading for a couple off|pg|| nt|vugraphpl2: our leader is still Bessis :)|pg|| nt|ahollan1: other tables visible via http://www.bridgebase.com/client/vugraph.php or http://www.bridgebase.com/mobile/|pg|| nt|glen: in 2010, the ew cc:|pg|| nt|glen: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/ConventionCards/2010Ostend-european/OpenTeams/germany/piekarek-smirnov.pdf|pg|| nt|glen: in 2008, the NS cc:|pg|| nt|glen: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/ConventionCards/2008Pau-european/OpenTeams/France/bompis-quantin.pdf|pg|| nt|ahollan1: EW have made a few changes since Ostend i'll try to spot them before our commentary looks silly|pg|| nt|glen: after my beer rankings, it will be hard to say "before silly"|pg|| nt|vugraphpl2: running scores http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/osfrunda1.html|pg|| nt|yorkbeach: interesting that the Bessis team has a mixture of French and German players - Lisicki and Bartoli were playing at Wimbeldon earlier|pg|| nt|vugraphpl2: at the 1st table Mahaffey is leading with only 5IMP|pg|| nt|vugraphpl2: their difference decreased..|pg|| nt|glen: i suggest Mahaffey play Meckwell for the last set|pg|| nt|ahollan1: in the other match after 2 boards in the 2nd half Mahaffey lead down to 5 over Texan Aces|pg|| pc|cA|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|s2|pc|h4|pg|| pc|d3|nt|yorkbeach: we have action again :)|pg|| nt|yuval10: i think A@h costs a trick|pg|| nt|yorkbeach: the other table is now ahead timewise|pg|| nt|yuval10: still looks like -1 though|pg|| nt|glen: yes, he was hoping that W had only 5@Hs, and then N would have followed to the first @H|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|d6|pg|| nt|glen: this would then allow another @H and W would often play @H K to keep @C ruff|pg|| nt|yorkbeach: yes -1 looking likely|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s5|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c6|pc|c7|pc|h5|pg|| mc|8|nt|ahollan1: on this hand meckwell went for 500 in 3@hX|pg|| pg|| qx|c16|st||md|2SAHAQT2DT532CA942,SQ5HKJ9763DAQCK63,SJ98642HDK74CQJT7,SKT73H854DJ986C85|sv|e|nt|hedyg: 3@H X in OR|pg|| nt|granguru: declarer saved 2 potential tricks|pg|| nt|hedyg: E thinking, has not passed yet|pg|| nt|hedyg: results and running scores: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswrunda6.html|pg|| nt|jfaria: well bellow 50% :)|pg|| nt|jcomyn: of course|pg|| nt|jcomyn: n might get excited here|pg|| nt|bobholl: against @C yes :)|pg|| nt|ritong: hi there|pg|| mb|1H|nt|hedyg: EW CC: http://www.ecatsbridge.org/documents/files/ConventionCards/2010Ostend-european/OpenTeams/israel/ronpa-gino.pdf|pg|| nt|hedyg: and EW landed in 5@d|pg|| nt|kit: likely 4@H bid|pg|| mb|1S|nt|ntmon: @S partscore to EW|pg|| nt|MolvaM: 27+5 = 32 teams will qualify for the knockouts. members of the eliminated teams can enjoy the open pairs event starting tomorrow|pg|| nt|dburn: but this match will be fast - both teams are sure to qualify, there is no carry-over, so they will save their energies for the knock-out stages|pg|| nt|hedyg: NS CC: http://www.ecatsbridge.org/documents/files/ConventionCards/2009BermudaBowlBrazil/bermudabowl/usa2/meckstroth-rodwell.pdf|pg|| nt|jcomyn: not now he wont|pg|| nt|panja: this must have gone too fast to record|pg|| nt|bobholl: 123 @H ?|pg|| mb|p|nt|hedyg: NS CC: http://www.ecatsbridge.org/documents/files/ConventionCards/2010Ostend-european/OpenTeams/italy/bocchi-madala.pdf|pg|| nt|roswolf: is that supposed to be a rubbish multi?|pg|| nt|hedyg: 2@d= multi, 2M= 10-13|pg|| nt|roswolf: rdbl =diamonds?|pg|| nt|hedyg: so this is max 9 hcps|pg|| nt|dburn: well, rubbish is as rubbish goes - that's pretty sound, not vulnerable in first seat|pg|| nt|hedyg: i never consider a 6-4 hand as rubbish anyhow|pg|| nt|roswolf: ok bid your suit is the consensus for rdbl|pg|| nt|hedyg: pass would show @ds, not XX|pg|| nt|dburn: but I would be surprised to find that redouble showed diamonds|pg|| nt|dburn: some play that redoubled means "I don't want to compete" - they would bid 2@s to mean "I want to compete in hearts, but not spades"|pg|| nt|roswolf: americans have a marked weakness against the multi -i t is extremely discouraged in the state|pg|| nt|3for3: that is how we play the redouble. not sure it is best. since they are often in trouble when they enter with balanced garbage|pg|| nt|hedyg: there is no carryover to the round of 32|pg|| nt|roswolf: you would hope meckwell at least have sensible methods|pg|| nt|3for3: they do play sensible methods. but doubling 2@D is not free, especially when the partner of the multi has some diamond length|pg|| nt|hedyg: to pass with @ds is normal i believe as E|pg|| nt|hedyg: with 6+ @ds|pg|| nt|roswolf: i would ignore the rdbl and bid 3@C SHOWING VALUES + clubs(going via leb would be weaker)|pg|| nt|3for3: meck usually isnt this slow|pg|| nt|roswolf: hmm is south choosing between 3@C OR 4@c?|pg|| nt|dburn: he may be asking questions of West, of course|pg|| nt|roswolf: OK seriously declarer failed to heed the significance of the diamond lead|pg|| nt|rcerreto: what now in S?|pg|| mb|2C|nt|rcerreto: a forcing bid, in their agreements, I presume|pg|| nt|pelu: its green against red, but woulfd u all overcal 1<@s on Ns hand - no suit and no values|pg|| mb|p|nt|woozle: 6NT has chances with a spade lead - four spades, three hearts, three diamonds, one club and a squeeze on south|pg|| nt|jcomyn: but ns might get busy in h|pg|| nt|hedyg: EW CC: http://www.ecatsbridge.org/documents/files/ConventionCards/2010Ostend-european/OpenTeams/italy/duboin-sementa.pdf|pg|| nt|MolvaM: 2s was intermediate?|pg|| nt|hedyg: specs tell me XX used to be bid your major for EW|pg|| nt|3for3: it might be west who is thinking, but i doubt it.|pg|| nt|3for3: usually these auctions are fairly automatic for the multi side.|pg|| nt|roswolf: i had assumed that rodwell's dbl showed 12-15 bal or very strong -does anyone know for sure?|pg|| nt|dburn: doesn't look as though redouble was diamonds, at any rate - West would have bid if it did|pg|| nt|3for3: i would bet with you |pg|| nt|hedyg: for sure|pg|| nt|jfaria: Mahaffey probably thinks he conceeded a swing in previous board..|pg|| nt|jcomyn: as long as s passes|pg|| nt|rmb1: 2H was 5H + 5other|pg|| nt|roswolf: which basically would be totally ludicrous unless it was a singleton|pg|| nt|bigtrain: meck had a 2@H intermediate option also|pg|| mb|4C|nt|ntmon: but higher suit probably wins|pg|| nt|dburn: but 3@c was obviously value-showing, given North's 3NT|pg|| nt|ralfwil: If any bid - 2@s|pg|| nt|rcerreto: seriously, I can't imagine passing. As bed 1@s might be|pg|| nt|rcerreto: 2@s is equally flawed, bad suit and side values|pg|| mb|p|nt|woozle: Fiona Brown is very cautious with her barren 11|pg|| nt|roswolf: aggressive reopening by north|pg|| nt|panja: that 1Nt is a risk VUL|pg|| nt|ady: part score hand 9 tricks in diamonds for n/s|pg|| nt|mdgraham: if South tries 2NT though.....|pg|| nt|ady: 3MT poor hearts well placed but very poor contract|pg|| nt|ady: 3NT|pg|| nt|MolvaM: even 3nt seems to be making|pg|| nt|MolvaM: everything is well placed|pg|| mb|5C|nt|MolvaM: 10-13 I am told ok|pg|| nt|roswolf: some may have doubled as east-t/o of course|pg|| nt|MolvaM: or 11-13 I am also told :)|pg|| nt|roswolf: well 6@C here on ice|pg|| nt|hedyg: i have no CC for NS, soemthing between SEF and 2/1|pg|| nt|roswolf: 6nt from east cold as well|pg|| nt|panja: 5 other including @S?|pg|| nt|bobholl: a lebensohl misunderstood ?|pg|| mb|p|nt|jcomyn: not yet|pg|| nt|hedyg: lead 4th from longest!|pg|| nt|dburn: and I suppose he might make it, if East doesn't lead a diamond|pg|| nt|jfaria: after N said he has got the blacks there is no great deal about bidding @c|pg|| nt|roswolf: the dutch will get on the board here|pg|| nt|roswolf: looks like it|pg|| nt|roswolf: at least it is nv|pg|| nt|ady: need great luck with all suits outside diamonds|pg|| nt|MolvaM: for NS of course|pg|| nt|mdgraham: somehow you feel that South wants to bid 2NT |pg|| mb|p|nt|3for3: 3nt is reasonable spot. the diamond stopper looks weak, but as long as the clubs run, you just need AK@D in one hand or no @D lead|pg|| nt|hedyg: 9 tricks|pg|| nt|3for3: they got the latter...|pg|| nt|bobholl: small or @SQ ?|pg|| nt|roswolf: Q would also be my choice|pg|| nt|kit: this makes like difficult for Mech|pg|| mb|p|nt|ntmon: .. now :)|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Wikner/Kamras: http://www.svenskbridge.se/e107_files/tavling/deklarationer/AWJK1.pdf|pg|| pc|h6|nt|roswolf: this may not play too well|pg|| nt|kit: he must go up, but then no sure entry|pg|| nt|ralfwil: agree. but better than 1@s in my opinion|pg|| nt|rcerreto: when you have @s not vuln. and your opps have bid @h vuln. you can't help but bis something, I think|pg|| nt|rcerreto: bid|pg|| nt|rcerreto: the lead helps|pg|| nt|pelu: are we looking at a pair from france bidding that way?? I am shocked :)|pg|| pc|d4|nt|rmb1: Yes, any other. (But only in some events)|pg|| nt|panja: well, in that case, dbl must have been negative...and W should have taken out...or was the double penalty?|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hT|pg|| nt|woozle: four rounds of spades now will put South through the wringer|pg|| nt|athene: bocchi knows his side has a fit - if opps have a 9-card fit you are guaranteed an 8-card fit at least - but that doesn't mean you will find it|pg|| nt|hedyg: some might bid 4@S with the W hand once he knows about 4 card support since he has no valid defense vs 4@H except the trumps|pg|| nt|roswolf: this can be defeated|pg|| nt|roswolf: the swedes on the first bd bid to 5@D for a game swing|pg|| nt|jcomyn: 3 bids on a 9 count now what|pg|| nt|panja: on B16, here, South is worried about @D control..|pg|| nt|panja: N should simply have bid 3Nt..but now, South is in a bind|pg|| pc|d5|nt|rcerreto: anyway, be it 1@s or 2 but, IMHO, you've to bid. But I can understand someone can't stomach it! :)|pg|| pc|dA|nt|blum1956: A player of the team which is in best 8 will hardly lead a spade against 6NT|pg|| nt|hedyg: ty Roland :)|pg|| nt|MolvaM: the bidding could well go 1@s-2@s-4@S at other tables|pg|| nt|roswolf: true|pg|| nt|roswolf: i have seen it said that at expert level you should never lead pard's major but lead your own suit and this hand is a good example of why|pg|| nt|panja: Lev trying to put pressure|pg|| nt|panja: the youngsters might just redbl...|pg|| pc|d7|nt|VugraphPLA: TD was called by Upmark|pg|| nt|hedyg: surely he called TD cause 3NT was bid after a longgggggg huddle by S|pg|| nt|3for3: does the slow bid demonstrably suggest 3nt by Rodwell?|pg|| nt|hedyg: the TD will decide that|pg|| nt|roswolf: in my view yes 3nt is much safer when pard huddles|pg|| nt|hedyg: in the mean time i had received some messages from kibs about the 3NT bid after a long huddle|pg|| nt|3for3: it may be safer. but it needs to be DEMONSTRABLY suggested...the law's words, not mine|pg|| nt|roswolf: yes it again looks that americans cant deal with the multi:)|pg|| nt|dburn: no more than an in-tempo 3@c bid would, I imagine - but we are not the Director, of course|pg|| nt|roswolf: declarer thinks oh dear|pg|| pc|d8|pg|| nt|jcomyn: well who does win now|pg|| nt|athene: west's defensive plan is very easy|pg|| nt|athene: just play spades and spades and spades|pg|| nt|roswolf: indeed|pg|| nt|athene: and get your three trump tricks|pg|| nt|hedyg: Ilan Herbst went 2 off in OR|pg|| nt|athene: maybe south would be better-off to double 3@S rather than bid 4@H, if he feels he has to do something|pg|| nt|roswolf: i think only -1 is likely here|pg|| nt|roswolf: competenty done|pg|| nt|roswolf: now 13 tricks|pg|| nt|rmb1: Lev seems to expect more from 1@D than East will deliver|pg|| nt|rmb1: 4@H not very attractive for South (unless North had doubleton diamond)|pg|| nt|panja: it will be difficult to avoid 3 trump losers here...4@H doesn't look like a make|pg|| nt|rmb1: If anything, 4@S looks easier|pg|| nt|hawe45: Best lead difficult to find: @C KING!|pg|| nt|fokal: west should still play trump ?|pg|| nt|rcerreto: he's feeling he should have to, by now|pg|| pc|s5|nt|blum1956: Not that difficult - clubs is the only unbid suit|pg|| nt|hawe45: But then you must check the bidding...|pg|| nt|blum1956: Anyway, all the aces being with the declarer's side nothing may disturb making the contract|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s7|nt|kiwibridge: 1N was x'd for -300 so perhaps not such a good idea on 1|pg|| pc|sA|pg|| nt|athene: 4@H should be a five-card suit in my opinion|pg|| nt|MolvaM: some like to rebid 3@d with north hand with 6 solid tricks|pg|| nt|rcerreto: but he's looking for an entry by pd to cross trumps through decl.|pg|| pc|c2|nt|panja: NS seem to have similar cards in @H and @S...but @S are 33 in EW hands..so 4@S might have a modicum of a chance|pg|| nt|panja: @CK, @H ruff, a trump...what is the fourth possibility for the defenders?|pg|| nt|rmb1: @HA :)|pg|| nt|panja: oh well......if Declarer tries to prevent @C ruff, he can't ruff anything himself...|pg|| nt|panja: but he could get 3 Clubs, 3 Spades, 2 Diamonds, 2 Hearts for 10|pg|| nt|ritong: this room switching to french|pg|| nt|hawe45: He must put his money on @C King in South - otherwise still down with a wrong @S-guess|pg|| nt|fokal: ok, french or english , I don't mind :)|pg|| nt|ritong: nous allons installer cette salle en français|pg|| nt|hawe45: Do we swith to french just to make me happy - merci d´avance...|pg|| nt|hawe45: Et maintenant, que vais je faire...|pg|| nt|ritong: ton bonheur est notre principale préoccupation, hans|pg|| pc|cK|nt|hedyg: he could not do that after his pd doubled 3@S, Bill|pg|| nt|jcomyn: CQ and H|pg|| pc|c7|nt|roswolf: -4 800 is a big price to pay for a bidding mixup|pg|| pc|c5|pg|| nt|ntmon: it's probable that EW will come to 4@S on many tables either on its own or pushed, but not doubled |pg|| nt|athene: no i mean in the other room|pg|| nt|hedyg: but that would be for minors, denying 4@Hs|pg|| nt|hedyg: it is rare that pd, when he doubles 1@s, does not have 4 cards in @H|pg|| nt|roswolf: not so rare these days for the top players|pg|| nt|hedyg: we all assume pd has 4 OM when he doubles a M opening|pg|| nt|roswolf: that is true enough|pg|| nt|jfaria: think E could antecipate some kind of misfit...|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s4|nt|jcomyn: but why does w keep bidding when he knows big hand on nhis left|pg|| nt|MolvaM: in which case south could choose to bid the NT game|pg|| pc|s3|nt|woozle: probably not, but leading from a nothing suit isn't completely safe either - can easily pick up (say) partner's queen|pg|| nt|hedyg: nobody is very worried about the overtrick|pg|| nt|fokal: ou est ce qu'on en est, je suis arivé au milieu de la donne donc je ne sais pas trop ce qu'il se passe|pg|| pc|c4|pg|| nt|jcomyn: levazza mean business by the looks of things|pg|| nt|jfaria: 9 tricks is quite a bit in this layout|pg|| nt|panja: I thought @CK was not a good choice....for West|pg|| nt|pelu: Monaco in 3@H - 1@H - 2@S P P, D P 3@h|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dQ|nt|roswolf: ace and another trump lookes obvious as he wasnt in 4|pg|| nt|glen: should declarer have played @S ace then @s|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d6|pg|| nt|hedyg: :)|pg|| nt|athene: i think doubling just says you don't have the offensive potential in hearts to commit to bidding 4 over 3|pg|| nt|roswolf: this is not good for south|pg|| nt|roswolf: fair comment bill|pg|| nt|athene: so you can still have auctions like 1@S X 3@S X pass 4minor pass 4@H|pg|| nt|athene: saying ok, we might want to play here, but we don't have to|pg|| nt|roswolf: running scores: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswleaderb.html|pg|| pc|s6|nt|MolvaM: greed?|pg|| nt|roswolf: hmm an error by south|pg|| nt|roswolf: yup|pg|| nt|MolvaM: actually he should want the @sK to be offside|pg|| nt|roswolf: on the first bd south led @sA AGAINST 4@h for -1|pg|| nt|ritong: pendant ce temps, notre jeune amie nathalie frey va faire son contrat|pg|| pc|sT|nt|roswolf: in the other room|pg|| pc|cA|pc|h3|pg|| nt|panja: it might still make....unless @HQ entry is knocked out.So W must win @S, and switch to @HJ perhaps..let us see|pg|| nt|rmb1: Looks like two trumps for defence|pg|| nt|panja: no..@SJ and back next..that should be normal now|pg|| nt|hawe45: Entame anti-Bessis - et il va gagner. Meilleure entame: Roi de @C - du Roi doubleton|pg|| nt|rcerreto: I didn't remember French players being so aggressive|pg|| nt|rcerreto: times are changing|pg|| pc|d3|pc|h7|nt|jcomyn: he will get what he deserved|pg|| pc|cT|nt|Walddk6: Welcome to Martin Carroll|pg|| pc|d9|pg|| nt|fokal: ok 7 top tricks , 8 now|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sK|pc|c9|nt|mcarroll: Hi all|pg|| nt|athene: nice line, trying to make|pg|| nt|MolvaM: madala is in the interesting contract of 2S next room|pg|| pc|h9|pg|| nt|rmb1: Too many red suit losers|pg|| nt|panja: but for North's refusal to bid 2Nt..this deal would have been over long ago|pg|| nt|rmb1: Board 15 was flat in 4@SX+1 on the same auction|pg|| pc|hA|nt|athene: playing for @CJx onside|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|s9|pc|h4|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|cJ|nt|athene: and even trump break|pg|| pc|h5|pg|| nt|rmb1: Apparently, West needed to play a @D at trick 2 to threaten a diamond overruff and North needed to play a small @H at trick 3 to establish 2 @H tricks|pg|| nt|ritong: sur une main a passe général possible|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c8|pc|dT|pc|c3|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|dJ|nt|roswolf: good try|pg|| nt|bobholl: this even better than making 4@S (no trump lead or switch)|pg|| nt|roswolf: i trust this wont put e/w on tilt|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|c6|pg|| pg|| qx|o17|st||md|3SQJ874HJ64DT3CQ83,SAT2HAK7D82CAKJT7,S65H982DA65C96542,SK93HQT53DKQJ974C|sv|o|nt|yorkbeach: another slam|pg|| mb|p|nt|yuval10: looks likely that E will open|pg|| nt|yuval10: then easier to reach|pg|| nt|yorkbeach: certain|pg|| nt|glen: texas likes big numbers|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 1@D=a) 11-18 HCP, 5+@D b) 11-15 HCP, 4441@C/@S c) 19-21 HCP, @D & another|pg|| mb|1D|nt|yuval10: they also likes comebacks|pg|| mb|p|mb|2C|nt|ahollan1: i promise not to show that again|pg|| mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|nt|vugraphpl2: running scores still with mistake of 1IMP http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/osfrunda1.html|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2@C=one round force [not auto game force]|pg|| nt|glen: das auto game force?|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2@D=10-15 HCP still many possible shapes|pg|| mb|2H|mb|p|nt|glen: 2@H must be game force and says "okay, i give up, please provide a hint on your hand type"|pg|| nt|vugraphpl2: so after 16 boards difference is 18IMP, so everything can change :)|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2@H = natural or NT values |pg|| nt|yorkbeach: or could be sort of natural|pg|| nt|ahollan1: piek will clarify his @S holding|pg|| nt|vugraphpl2: but our currently leader is still Bessis|pg|| mb|2N|an| |nt|glen: so both players have shown values, but not certain what their hand types are yet|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: in the other match meckwell in 6@D their counterparts 6N|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2N=@S stop|pg|| nt|yorkbeach: you must be right - I would be expecting East to raise to 3@h |pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2N does NOT deny 4@H [as we see :)]|pg|| nt|glen: and now E bids 2NT with a void, okay with a @S stopper too|pg|| nt|yorkbeach: the principle of showing the most economical feature first?|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i'm not sure about Smirnov's options now other than he could ask for 4@H if he had a hand that was interested|pg|| nt|vugraphpl2: running scores http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/osfrunda1.html|pg|| nt|vugraphpl2: information www.poznan2011.pl|pg|| nt|yorkbeach: could he ask for 4@s (not that he wants to)?|pg|| mb|4N|nt|ahollan1: not after 2@H|pg|| mb|p|nt|yorkbeach: oops|pg|| nt|ahollan1: clarification i don't think he can after 2@H|pg|| nt|yorkbeach: with no suit agreed, East may take this is quantitative|pg|| nt|glen: S has the copyright on that|pg|| nt|yorkbeach: :)|pg|| nt|glen: it certainly looks a slam invite if W could force with a lower bid|pg|| nt|vugraphpl2: Mr Piekarek is still thinking|pg|| nt|glen: one big advantage to screens is to not see partner's pain while you think about passing|pg|| mb|6D|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: nice bid|pg|| nt|glen: score now correct at: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/osfrunda1.html|pg|| nt|glen: not including this set|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: @HQ working value after 2@H good 6 card suit ...|pg|| nt|ahollan1: so both matches one table 6N one table 6@D|pg|| nt|ahollan1: what would contract be at your local club game?|pg|| nt|glen: local club game: some grands, various slams, some games, a partscore, two doubled contracts|pg|| nt|vugraphpl2: yes, but players at my table don't write results of boards :(|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|ahollan1: EW play for germany but both started elsewhere [i hope i get this right] Smirnov was from Russia Piekarek came from Poland|pg|| nt|vugraphpl2: but i will tell them after this board :)|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s3|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d5|pc|dK|pc|d3|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dT|pc|d8|pc|dA|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|c17|st||md|3SQJ874HJ64DT3CQ83,SAT2HAK7D82CAKJT7,S65H982DA65C96542,SK93HQT53DKQJ974C|sv|o|nt|roswolf: agreed since he was in 3|pg|| nt|MolvaM: so that 4@s wont make|pg|| nt|jfaria: 500 for nothing|pg|| nt|jcomyn: 500 for bidding like a novice|pg|| nt|jcomyn: 1nt by somebody|pg|| nt|fokal: oh mince j'ai parlé en anglais, j'ai pris l'habitude, faut croire|pg|| nt|pelu: no most french players stil bid french style|pg|| mb|p|mb|1D|nt|woozle: Brown has an exciting hand but best defense can beat 4S|pg|| nt|roswolf: an imp is an imp is an imp so said a great player once|pg|| nt|hedyg: the official site is: http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg|| nt|rmb1: 10IMP to Mahaffey against 3NT= in OR|pg|| nt|kit: now 2@S overcall hits multi-bidder's suit|pg|| nt|bobholl: vulnarable weak two "we are not afraid"|pg|| nt|bigtrain: i think he'll X|pg|| nt|mdgraham: interesting is a good word - can mean a number of things|pg|| nt|hawe45: Partielle mineure ou SA pour E/W, donne calme|pg|| mb|p|nt|mcarroll: This will certainly see Major suit action|pg|| nt|roswolf: i believe you danny|pg|| nt|jfaria: 11 facing 11|pg|| nt|bobholl: X bid your suit ?|pg|| nt|pelu: but N almost Junior - or is he still junior?|pg|| mb|2C|nt|ntmon: 4@S now by NS|pg|| nt|jcomyn: will they get to 6|pg|| nt|roswolf: 4@H is normal here|pg|| nt|roswolf: another transfer|pg|| nt|jcomyn: passed out in the club but not here|pg|| nt|jfaria: one of the most misguidding combination|pg|| nt|kit: East knows if West has hearts, opponents have spades|pg|| nt|MolvaM: right :) commentator jargon|pg|| nt|mdgraham: third in hand - anything goes|pg|| mb|p|nt|roswolf: anothr transfer|pg|| nt|jcomyn: usually leads to trouble|pg|| nt|fokal: est ce que 2 @d serait naturel, nf chez eux ?|pg|| nt|ralfwil: next slam in @d or nt|pg|| mb|2D|nt|roswolf: might inhibit the nat @H overcall by east |pg|| nt|3for3: 2@H reverse flannery|pg|| nt|roswolf: what is the alleged range of 1nt?|pg|| nt|bobholl: and he knows that in that case he can't outbid them|pg|| nt|ady: part score hand again e/w likely to play in a major|pg|| nt|fokal: sinon 1SA|pg|| mb|p|nt|woozle: South's 2D looks competitively inadequate, not that it matters much here|pg|| nt|jcomyn: tempting|pg|| nt|jfaria: here with the light open after S has passed|pg|| nt|bobholl: guess 14-16|pg|| mb|2H|nt|kit: one of the advantages of multi -- sometimes you dodge a bad split|pg|| mb|p|nt|fokal: encore une donne bien calme|pg|| nt|pelu: i am told that Thomas is 28-29|pg|| nt|rcerreto: As usual, the trailing team hopes for swings|pg|| mb|3N|nt|blum1956: Probably it is a @h raise|pg|| nt|roswolf: may be showing 3@H support - the transfer shows 4+ in hearts|pg|| nt|leao: this shud be to play, no?|pg|| nt|leao: playing weak NT|pg|| nt|roswolf: NORTH SHOULDNT BID AGAIN THE DOUBLE IS A WARNING BELL|pg|| nt|roswolf: sorry for the shout -stuck caps lock key|pg|| nt|fokal: on attendra la donne 4 pour plus de mouvement|pg|| nt|hawe45: Nord entame mieux (meilleur?) que son p rere contre SA|pg|| nt|hawe45: père|pg|| nt|pelu: or 27 :):)|pg|| mb|p|nt|roswolf: i would lead a club|pg|| nt|roswolf: the @SQ is looking for a brillancy prize|pg|| nt|ady: 3 clubs good for 9 tricks|pg|| nt|mdgraham: warning sign for the @cK|pg|| nt|MolvaM: south is happy with 2 aces and 3 card support|pg|| mb|4C|nt|roswolf: but it depends on what double by eric showed - if a weak nt then it may well be assuming a club fit - but we must remember that defence could have defeated it|pg|| nt|hedyg: 2@H not alerted?|pg|| nt|wstuart: sleeping actually|pg|| nt|bobholl: he listens to you :)|pg|| nt|roswolf: yes only 1000 miles away|pg|| mb|p|nt|woozle: No doubt, and a toothpick is a weapon but it's not really adequate for a duel|pg|| nt|jcomyn: as u said - now whnat?|pg|| nt|leao: in spite of the trump break this shud make in comfort (+1, looks like)|pg|| nt|leao: no chance he hears me... in another continent altogether|pg|| nt|roswolf: e/w would have done well in one of the red suits|pg|| mb|4D|nt|jcomyn: but resisted|pg|| nt|roswolf: i am told 1@c-1@d-1@h=3@h unball,1nt=2/3@hball|pg|| nt|roswolf: another vul game bash|pg|| nt|hedyg: 1st we bid it, then we try to make it|pg|| nt|rcerreto: slightly surprised by 3NT over 2@h|pg|| mb|p|nt|ntmon: S would need @D8 instead of @D7|pg|| nt|rmb1: 2 @C A@D @D ruff 5 @H = +1|pg|| nt|kit: looks like only 7 tricks|pg|| nt|ady: double must show spades as well as 5 hearts|pg|| nt|ady: this should be down 1|pg|| mb|4N|nt|jcomyn: has to be penlties but e not sure|pg|| mb|p|nt|roswolf: yup|pg|| nt|roswolf: to try and set up hearts looks natural not that it will work|pg|| nt|hedyg: not enough transportation|pg|| nt|hedyg: and also the 3rd @s in the N hand|pg|| nt|roswolf: true but if 3-3 then enough|pg|| nt|hedyg: if there is a way Pepsi will find it|pg|| nt|roswolf: dd it is doomed i am told - looks it to me in practice as well|pg|| nt|mdgraham: diamond lead and club shift - this may be one too high |pg|| nt|rcerreto: was 2@h some sort of a conventional bid?|pg|| nt|rcerreto: or is it 3NT?|pg|| mb|5D|nt|jfaria: N took 2nt as minors and really bid his p suit with 2 cards!!|pg|| nt|bobholl: looks imo(and some kibs) as 6 tricks only |pg|| nt|hawe45: Une de chute - mais vite|pg|| mb|p|nt|athene: this is a funny auction then - how did Bocchi know his partner had five hearts>|pg|| nt|jcomyn: early monday morning bridge|pg|| nt|jfaria: revenge from prevous board?|pg|| nt|Walddk5: 2 segments of 14 boards in the R32, R16, QF and SF. 3 x 16 in the finals on Wednesday|pg|| mb|6N|nt|athene: ?|pg|| mb|p|nt|mcarroll: making now|pg|| nt|woozle: Brown had two options - lead the club early before the opponents know you have eight trumps, or run trumps and try to put on pressure|pg|| nt|bobholl: migth even make 4 5@C 4@S 2 aces |pg|| nt|james_h: my time and if I can earlier|pg|| nt|fokal: il entame aussi la dame de @h dans DVx :)|pg|| nt|hawe45: Que Nord reflechit ici, c´est deja fort!!!|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|ntmon: or @D lead|pg|| nt|MolvaM: meckwell playing 2@s|pg|| nt|fokal: mais c'est pas la même séquence cela dit :)|pg|| nt|rcerreto: ah, ok. I've been told that 3NT shows 4@h and a @s stopper|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|athene: maybe he didn't|pg|| pc|s2|nt|blum1956: Maybe it were better to play the @cQ before trumps|pg|| nt|roswolf: pepsi is east's nickname |pg|| nt|ritong: allavena a joué un peu imprudemment|pg|| nt|ritong: je crois qu il etait meilleur de prendre l entame au mort et attaquer les @cs immédiatement|pg|| nt|mdgraham: good afternoon all|pg|| nt|fokal: a la vue du mort, le switch devrait arriver|pg|| pc|s6|nt|mcarroll: True enough|pg|| nt|Walddk4: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswrunda6.html|pg|| nt|panja: do you like the 2@H bid?|pg|| nt|bobholl: j of @D now 6 only|pg|| nt|kit: 4 spades, 1 in each other suit?|pg|| nt|bobholl: yes ok count to 13 is sometimes difficult|pg|| nt|bigtrain: once the @HQ scored 7 seems likely|pg|| nt|bigtrain: if not careful 8 even|pg|| nt|ritong: french room , mike:)|pg|| pc|sK|pg|| nt|woozle: Count signals should sort out the club suit for the defense when North has the ace|pg|| nt|kit: better than other room though|pg|| nt|bobholl: much better :)|pg|| nt|bigtrain: i like X alot more than 2NT there|pg|| pc|dK|nt|roswolf: non-poles cant pronounce all the consonants in his name|pg|| nt|leao: indeed he might|pg|| nt|leao: but he also might fear @c ruffs|pg|| nt|bobholl: in 2 he won't go all out|pg|| nt|leao: and he´s in the wrong hand to takcle trumps|pg|| nt|MolvaM: lev's 3@c bid was the winner here|pg|| nt|mdgraham: well, that gives it a chance |pg|| pc|d3|nt|roswolf: 3nt shows 5 hearts i am told :)|pg|| pc|d2|nt|ady: certain to get heart right|pg|| nt|MolvaM: well lev's @c9 converted the winner to a push I guess|pg|| pc|dA|pg|| nt|pelu: 6Nt best contract - could make even if pd D not running - fx on 2-4-6-1 |pg|| pc|s5|nt|athene: yes i know 1@D shows hearts but only 4+ hearts|pg|| nt|panja: why bid for 8 tricks when you can take 7 and get a plus score? |pg|| nt|leao: nicely done|pg|| nt|roswolf: on bd2 south in the other room tried 3@S-2- 14 IMPS TO THE DUTCH|pg|| pc|s3|nt|roswolf: cutting his losses -1|pg|| nt|rmb1: I prefer it to Pass|pg|| pc|s4|nt|jcomyn: surprised in a way they didnt try|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 3@S vs X -- don't have much feeling which is better|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 2@S|pg|| pc|sT|pg|| nt|MolvaM: was that a signalling mixup?|pg|| nt|rcerreto: also, it scores more that 6@d :)|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|o18|st||md|4SQJ4HDAQ7CQ986542,SA52HJ972DT532CK7,SK6HAK8543DJ984C3,ST9873HQT6DK6CAJT|sv|n|nt|yorkbeach: 6Nt would be quite common in a club game - West bids 4Nt at some stage and auctions rarely stop|pg|| nt|vugraphpl2: i know, but they told me that i should write german flag :)|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: the EW system is called Baltic Club sort of a spinoff of Polish Club + some of their own|pg|| nt|yorkbeach: shape again but no great fit 3@c and @sA to lose|pg|| mb|1C|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: absolutely they represent Germany in international competition over last few years|pg|| mb|1H|mb|1S|mb|2C|mb|2S|mb|d|nt|yuval10: not everyone's overcall|pg|| mb|p|nt|glen: 2@S prevents N from bidding 3@H as a game invite|pg|| mb|3C|mb|p|nt|vugraphpl2: running scores http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/osfrunda1.html|pg|| nt|glen: bids X to show values first|pg|| nt|vugraphpl2: information www.poznan2011.pl|pg|| mb|3H|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: Piek somewhat protected by failure to open either 1@S or 2@D|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|yorkbeach: @d lucky for declarer|pg|| nt|yuval10: not sure if NS are on the same page here|pg|| nt|yuval10: still only 8 tricks though, hard to see where the 9th can come from|pg|| nt|glen: if on same page, then page is wroong|pg|| nt|glen: *wrong|pg|| nt|yorkbeach: but 4@d 2@s 2@h still only 8 tricks|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sK|pc|sT|pc|s4|pg|| nt|vugraphpl2: at the 1st table Mahaffey is leading with 10IMP difference|pg|| nt|ahollan1: in the other match Mahaffey picked up 7 on this board by stopping in 3@H the Texan Aces pair played 4@H|pg|| nt|vugraphpl2: at our table difference decreased to 16IMP|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d6|pc|dQ|pc|d2|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c7|pc|c3|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pc|s6|pg|| nt|glen: this is the "confuse a cat" line - try something and hope the confused opps make a mistake|pg|| pc|s2|pc|h3|pc|s7|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d8|pc|dK|pg|| nt|ahollan1: and hope partner isn't watching as dummy|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d5|pc|d9|mc|8|pg|| qx|c18|st||md|4SQJ4HDAQ7CQ986542,SA52HJ972DT532CK7,SK6HAK8543DJ984C3,ST9873HQT6DK6CAJT|sv|n|nt|hedyg: i am afraid when the CC was made last year they were not yet playing transfers over the 1@c opening, thus no explanations|pg|| nt|roswolf: what 3@H would mean is a mystery:)|pg|| nt|athene: ok so with a 3nt bid and only four hearts, south would have done something else|pg|| nt|athene: garozzo responds 2@C on strong balanced hands with a 4-card major|pg|| nt|athene: the idea is to conceal the major if you don't have a 4-4 fit|pg|| nt|athene: so if you respond showing a major then bid 3nt you promise 5|pg|| nt|roswolf: another kibber suggests they may use 3@S rebid by south as puppet to 3nt|pg|| nt|athene: looks as though NS are doing the same sort of thing|pg|| nt|MolvaM: nice hand.|pg|| nt|hedyg: wd for -1?|pg|| nt|dburn: delay perhaps caused by return of Director to table|pg|| nt|3for3: south made an interesting pass of the double of 1@H in CR. Terrible heart spots. I'd have bid some number of NT myself|pg|| nt|VugraphPLA: They will talk with TD after the match |pg|| nt|jcomyn: still a present of 6 imps|pg|| nt|bigtrain: i guess i could be convinced either way|pg|| nt|mdgraham: anyway, chance missed|pg|| nt|hawe45: Mais on est d´accord avec une de chute?|pg|| nt|ritong: non|pg|| nt|ralfwil: a technical finess- enter dummy on @hA and play a @d - if @d are A to 10xxx|pg|| mb|p|nt|jfaria: a quiet @s game now|pg|| nt|bobholl: i almost never bid a 5 card suit against multi (2@H is info on @S)|pg|| mb|1C|nt|MolvaM: we would be happy if a few voids would be there but ok :)|pg|| nt|glen: on bd 22, Tokay, S in other room, started trumps with ace for +140 and 5 imps|pg|| nt|ritong: si|pg|| mb|p|nt|jcomyn: 3C|pg|| nt|ntmon: 2@S alerted but looks like sign-off|pg|| nt|roswolf: on 22 in 3@S DECLARER DID PLAY ACE AND ANOR TRUMP|pg|| nt|MolvaM: welldone tokay :)|pg|| nt|bobholl: things don't go "the italian way " :)|pg|| nt|kit: should be easy slam to bid|pg|| nt|ritong: ça a été rectifié|pg|| nt|hawe45: Dans cette donne (aussi) mon style est perdante = je passe 1 @D...|pg|| nt|ritong: j aurais tendance a voir combien le déclarant vulnérable fait de plis a 1 @d|pg|| nt|rcerreto: good point Ralf|pg|| mb|1H|nt|roswolf: great minds eh glen!?:)|pg|| nt|glen: hey, canadians own "eh"|pg|| nt|roswolf: well 3nt seems routine by west|pg|| nt|bobholl: other room reached 4@S getting a @H lead|pg|| nt|leao: strong @c?|pg|| mb|p|nt|jcomyn: boy what happens now|pg|| nt|ntmon: when opps bid 2 suits and we look for 3NT, we bid the suit we have stopped |pg|| nt|hedyg: 2@d= 4+|pg|| nt|roswolf: a difficult salm to reach 6@D seems clearly superior|pg|| nt|athene: NS can bid lots of hearts but that will only encourage east to bid a slam|pg|| nt|hedyg: ok here is the CC for NS now: http://www.svenskbridge.se/e107_files/tavling/deklarationer/AWJKeng.pdf|pg|| nt|roswolf: this might be awkward for n/s|pg|| nt|hedyg: which is the awkward part?|pg|| nt|jcomyn: yes all this early morning excitement is a bit much for an aul fella like me|pg|| nt|jfaria: no reason to play anything else but 4@s|pg|| nt|panja: 6@C will be a good spot on B18|pg|| nt|bobholl: yes kind of|pg|| nt|ady: another part score hand|pg|| mb|2C|nt|ntmon: but i agree .. NS on the way to problems|pg|| nt|roswolf: the heart lead against nt is marked lucky east has 10xxx|pg|| nt|hedyg: getting to grand?|pg|| nt|rmb1: Losing @D finesse in 6NT|pg|| mb|p|nt|woozle: At the other table, North switched to a diamond at trick two, but chose the lowest...South, duly misled, led one back|pg|| nt|athene: 6@S will make if the defence foolishly try to cash @HAK, but not if they switch to a club to take out the entry to the diamonds, of course|pg|| nt|glen: thanks Hedy, typical swedish cc, very little blank space left|pg|| nt|dburn: Kokish hasn't yet managed to persuade Rodwell to overcall 1@s instead of doubling|pg|| nt|leao: ok, ty|pg|| nt|rcerreto: will NS stop below game?|pg|| mb|3H|nt|MolvaM: heart lead and low spade switch?|pg|| nt|granguru: and west @HJx|pg|| nt|bobholl: and in NT is much more than in @D|pg|| mb|p|nt|jcomyn: like well into the soup|pg|| nt|jcomyn: I'm still bidding 3c on the s hand before you have your blood spilled|pg|| nt|MolvaM: oh then @sA disappears|pg|| nt|roswolf: slam is on in many denominations and level is difficult to judge too|pg|| nt|jfaria: 2 nt must be several layouts, otherwise I doubt W would enter tehe auction|pg|| nt|hawe45: Mais Nord doit contrer 1 @D - et voila|pg|| nt|ritong: quelle bonne idée, hans|pg|| mb|p|nt|ntmon: the only problem with 3@C is that should not be enough |pg|| nt|ntmon: at least they're on the same wavelenght|pg|| nt|roswolf: advance sac taken|pg|| nt|hedyg: XX doesnt even start to show this hand|pg|| nt|hedyg: it really makes no difference to their qualifications|pg|| nt|panja: but with @DQ off, it won't make...|pg|| nt|roswolf: once when behind in a match i passed a strong club with a hand like south's and earnt myself a big swing - 1@c was the only making contract!|pg|| nt|roswolf: i was a junior at the time of course!|pg|| nt|bobholl: 7@D is best with @H K rigth but you can't guess that|pg|| mb|p|nt|hedyg: still 9 tricks|pg|| nt|hedyg: ok, now 4@d|pg|| nt|roswolf: i agree hedy|pg|| nt|3for3: kokish basically believes there is no hand too strong to overcall. Rodwell doesn't see it that way here|pg|| pc|sT|nt|MolvaM: even if misguess|pg|| nt|hedyg: right|pg|| nt|hedyg: anything is fine as long as they avoid 5@ds|pg|| nt|bobholl: 7nt makes because @HK rigth and @C good for 4 tricks |pg|| nt|rcerreto: good judgement|pg|| nt|rcerreto: now you're left with right guessing in @d|pg|| pc|s4|nt|roswolf: yup i think duboin was taking the time to light the proverbial cigarette|pg|| nt|mdgraham: apparently in standard Polish leads J is led from J10 doubleton|pg|| nt|MolvaM: in a close match quiet part score boards gain more importance. the last board was quite heavy in that sense|pg|| pc|sA|nt|jcomyn: much of a muchness|pg|| nt|glen: i thought they played for lavazza and coffee|pg|| pc|sK|pg|| nt|roswolf: the grand is missed i fear|pg|| nt|hedyg: Thomas thinks XX shows 3 @ss only|pg|| nt|hedyg: with 4 card fit and singleton @c he had other bids available|pg|| nt|roswolf: meckwell will probably have a similar challenge in the other room|pg|| pc|cK|nt|blum1956: clear pass for North on 2@s from my point of view, but Pszczola is a world champion which I am not|pg|| nt|MolvaM: he could get 6 proverbial IMPs fine for that :)|pg|| nt|hedyg: strange not to correct to @s|pg|| nt|panja: the bidding doesn't really address this slam exploration...if W had @DQ instead of the @SQ, for example, it would have been a cold 6@C|pg|| pc|c3|nt|bobholl: may be true now too|pg|| nt|MolvaM: meckstroth plays 3C open room which could well make|pg|| nt|ritong: mieux vaut ne pas se tromper d entame|pg|| nt|ritong: par sud, c est meilleur, pardon|pg|| nt|fokal: il aurait pu dire 3P plutot que 3K|pg|| nt|pelu: many play 3@H here as GF, 2@H as invit, and Jump 1. round 5-8 (WJS)|pg|| pc|cA|nt|leao: if he use the @s 10 as an entry he´ll be able to make one red siut finesse|pg|| nt|hawe45: Mais 620 su table|pg|| pc|c2|pg|| pc|cT|nt|rcerreto: hmm|pg|| pc|c4|nt|jfaria: Question is if 2nt GF W knows NS will win the auction , so no point in telling where the gold is..|pg|| nt|MolvaM: if he makes, this will be a double partscore swing for mahaffey of I thk 6 imp|pg|| nt|fokal: il faut que le partenaire sache quoi nommer avec un 4-3|pg|| pc|c7|nt|roswolf: seems to gain a few imps|pg|| nt|bobholl: not that junior but only making contract :)|pg|| nt|leao: looks like that´s the plan|pg|| pc|h3|pg|| nt|mcarroll: they did well to stop below game, but even this is probably not going to make|pg|| nt|ritong: c est vrai, oliv, mais ça aurait laissé une chance au flanc|pg|| pc|hA|nt|hedyg: seems Madala decided they would take no @H tricks if EW played|pg|| nt|glen: and the cash out stops at 4 tricks|pg|| nt|hedyg: better cash the K@H now|pg|| nt|jcomyn: wonder if n passes what happens|pg|| pc|h6|nt|roswolf: indeed|pg|| nt|leao: red suit=round suit|pg|| nt|leao: thats what i meant :)|pg|| nt|leao: no return is safe now|pg|| pc|c5|nt|ntmon: reaching 4@H X would not be problem on tables, where W passes and E opens with @S preeemt|pg|| nt|roswolf: well that may mean an imp to the israelis|pg|| pc|h2|pg|| nt|hedyg: they took all their tricks|pg|| nt|dburn: always depressing for a defender when declarer wins your opening lead and swiftly returns the suit|pg|| pc|hK|nt|3for3: especially at NT!|pg|| pc|hT|nt|woozle: Fiona did well on lead with a trump...a heart (or club) lead would have cost a trick|pg|| nt|hedyg: it is like an insult|pg|| nt|ady: trump leads should set 3@C|pg|| nt|fokal: (le partenaire peut etre 44 dans les majeures apres tout|pg|| nt|hawe45: Ce n est pas vrai - entame sous l As dans une main de 20-30 PDH - jamais vu!|pg|| nt|fokal: 3 @d etait sans doute un relais pour connaitre 3C ou 4P en face|pg|| nt|ritong: jean charles allavena a plutot bien analysé la sutuation il a estimé qu il était cuit et que sa meilleure chance était de tenter un truc|pg|| nt|fokal: ou tout bonnement une enchere intelligente pour que ce soit le partenaire qui joue les Piques|pg|| nt|hawe45: Ah oui - mais ici, dans la campagne, on entame atout de temps en temps|pg|| pc|c6|nt|blum1956: as opposite to 2@s which is makeable|pg|| pc|h7|pg|| pc|h4|nt|roswolf: nothing is much better here|pg|| nt|3for3: I like a low club better than the king|pg|| nt|dburn: happens to me all the time - my partner's card at trick one is suit preference, to tell me what I should have led|pg|| nt|roswolf: lol|pg|| nt|hedyg: lol|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|leao: now he has both finesses|pg|| pc|d7|nt|jcomyn: coul.d have been plenty of action after all|pg|| pc|h9|pg|| nt|leao: ??????????????|pg|| pc|d6|nt|leao: aha|pg|| nt|rcerreto: I can see the reasons why but it didn't work too well here|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|hedyg: running scores: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswrunda7.html|pg|| nt|jfaria: another 3@d x ? :)|pg|| nt|roswolf: hmm perhaps not|pg|| nt|leao: lol|pg|| nt|bobholl: and will make so 1@C not only contract to make :)|pg|| pc|d2|nt|roswolf: ah le correction|pg|| pc|d4|pg|| nt|3for3: both of these teams will surely qualify for the KO's. Kamras was leading the field entering this match|pg|| nt|dburn: still, if he then plays on the suit you opened the bidding in, you can resign yourself to the fact that he'd probably have made it anyway|pg|| nt|ady: this looks good for 110 for n/s|pg|| nt|MolvaM: out of the 4 matches, Monaco A has a 47 imp lead over rosentahl. other 3 matches close|pg|| mc|9|nt|leao: he worked too hard for this|pg|| pg|| qx|o19|st||md|1SA8653HAQT6DAKT2C,S92HKJDQ865CT8642,SKT74HDJ9CAKQJ975,SQJH9875432D743C3|sv|e|nt|glen: grand down 1 at other table!|pg|| nt|yorkbeach: great shuffler has been working hard :)|pg|| nt|vugraphpl2: so now difference is 12IMP, so still everything can change :)|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|nt|yorkbeach: 5-1 @c unlucky|pg|| nt|glen: everybody like restricted choice guesses?|pg|| nt|vugraphpl2: 10 boards to go :)|pg|| nt|ahollan1: Mahaffey bid 7@S Texan Aces 6@S so Mahaffey lead down to 4|pg|| mb|2N|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: this is why we say keep your seat belt on until the match comes to a complete stop|pg|| nt|glen: W at the other table did not lead trumps against 7@S|pg|| nt|yorkbeach: only 12 tricks if one black suit runs but the other does not|pg|| nt|vugraphpl2: running scores http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/osfrunda1.html|pg|| nt|vugraphpl2: information www.poznan2011.pl|pg|| nt|vugraphpl2: schedule www.poznan2011.pl/schedule|pg|| nt|glen: specs like ruffing out @Hs|pg|| nt|vugraphpl2: bulletin www.poznan2011.pl/bulletins |pg|| nt|yorkbeach: a keycrd sequence will stop in 6@s because the @sQ is missing|pg|| nt|ahollan1: but specs looking at all 4 hands|pg|| nt|vugraphpl2: schedule in your zone http://www.bridgebase.com/vugraph/schedule.php|pg|| mb|4C|mb|p|nt|yorkbeach: 4@c presumably shows the void (rather than a second suit as some play it)|pg|| nt|vugraphpl2: open finals are tomorrow at 10:30 AM|pg|| nt|yorkbeach: or is 3@c any minimum and so 4@c singleton or void|pg|| nt|ahollan1: most people who play Jacoby have abandoned the jump to show void in favor of using it to show a decent 2nd 5-card suit|pg|| nt|glen: at the local club this is gerber of course|pg|| nt|vugraphpl2: running scores http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/osfrunda1.html|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|nt|glen: now both players have shown their voids, N has not mention the AKQJ975 suit|pg|| mb|5N|mb|p|mb|6S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: nice stop for @S|pg|| nt|ahollan1: but i'd sure like to be in 7@C looking at NS hands|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cJ|pc|c3|pc|h6|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s9|pc|sK|pc|sQ|pg|| nt|glen: it would have been fun if after the 4@C bid, N took charge, then bid 7@C|pg|| nt|ahollan1: tougher to ignore restricted choice when in the grand|pg|| nt|yorkbeach: yes or even 7NT|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|c19|st||md|1SA8653HAQT6DAKT2C,S92HKJDQ865CT8642,SKT74HDJ9CAKQJ975,SQJH9875432D743C3|sv|e|nt|woozle: Maybe 4S here for EW, but there's work involved|pg|| nt|ntmon: the wrong result for Monacco atributed to their EW pair in OR|pg|| nt|athene: better lead a diamond against 6@H here|pg|| nt|granguru: 1Nt or 2@D NS|pg|| nt|rmb1: I only have a one-page system summary, so I don't know what 3@S meant, and whether 3NT was forced rebid|pg|| nt|bobholl: vwd|pg|| nt|Walddk5: 7@D is best by West because there are certain squeeze chances when they can't attack hearts, but it's not a grand slam you want to be in|pg|| mb|1S|nt|roswolf: yes for once not a lot of scope for action|pg|| nt|leao: hard for W to duck that @s queen|pg|| mb|p|nt|mcarroll: Lots of work|pg|| nt|mcarroll: lots of work needed|pg|| nt|ntmon: leader changes after each board |pg|| nt|athene: shouldn't be too hard though|pg|| nt|roswolf: another distributional fit|pg|| nt|roswolf: another pretty hand but only enough for game|pg|| nt|roswolf: yes sheer pertinacity as terence reese once remarked|pg|| nt|rcerreto: very dangerous board|pg|| nt|ralfwil: nest slam - 7@s as @s are 2-2|pg|| nt|rcerreto: 6@s are easy but 7...|pg|| nt|ralfwil: next....|pg|| nt|rcerreto: if you play A@s when a honour falls in E...|pg|| mb|2D|nt|ritong: la main de nathalie vaut elle un cue bid? je dirais oui|pg|| mb|p|nt|woozle: only two certain losers, but I'm not sure how many winners|pg|| nt|roswolf: well the @D lead signposted|pg|| nt|athene: 3@D is GF raise with singleton|pg|| nt|roswolf: 3@D shows 1 singleton(unspecified) + gf i am told|pg|| nt|athene: some specs might be wondering why east didn't just double|pg|| nt|roswolf: another crazy poor suit overcall imo|pg|| nt|bobholl: but 6NT is best if you only see ew (5@D 2@H 2@S 3@C)|pg|| nt|rcerreto: odds are to finesse|pg|| nt|pelu: 2@D? GF realy?|pg|| nt|rcerreto: this Frenchmen play a very peculiar natural, let me say!!! :)|pg|| nt|rcerreto: also 7@c would have better chances than 7@s but... it fails|pg|| mb|4C|nt|athene: there are two possible explanations|pg|| nt|panja: the problem is with the 2Nt bid....whatever 3@S meant, W could hardly have crossed 3Nt...|pg|| nt|leao: so they bid game on board 3 in the other room|pg|| nt|kit: 3@S gets them to poor game|pg|| nt|ady: 140 in fact last hand so 6 imp swing|pg|| nt|rcerreto: but I don't think thay can get to @c after this start|pg|| mb|p|nt|jcomyn: finding h here will be tricky|pg|| nt|jcomyn: and game on|pg|| nt|athene: firstly they might play x as t/o of hearts (unlikely)|pg|| nt|glen: the modern style: bid five card majors, count points later|pg|| nt|hedyg: 1NT= semi-forcing|pg|| nt|hedyg: 2NT general gametrial..|pg|| nt|dburn: 6@d has some sort of play - not sure how good a contract it is|pg|| nt|rmb1: On 17, EW found a minor-suit fit 3@D-1 for 3IMP|pg|| nt|leao: only excuse is he was 3rd in hand|pg|| nt|roswolf: :)|pg|| nt|hawe45: Est á la main parfaite pour 4 @H directement|pg|| nt|ritong: elle estime meme qu un cue bid a saut s impose|pg|| nt|pelu: I am told that 2@D is Thomas-style - preper the lead for 6@s|pg|| mb|5H|nt|athene: secondly he just wants to emphasize he has real playing strength in diamonds so there might be a sac|pg|| nt|glen: the semi-forcing NT allows for opener, once having counted points, to pass to avoid trouble|pg|| nt|hedyg: the term semi-forcing will always be a puzzle to me|pg|| nt|roswolf: this seems easy +90|pg|| nt|hedyg: thus it is NOT forcing?|pg|| nt|hedyg: or just 4@H|pg|| nt|roswolf: i have noticed that the dutch are not conservative bidders|pg|| nt|leao: they are high enough|pg|| nt|ady: normal K@D lead|pg|| nt|mdgraham: protection question for West - he goes quietly|pg|| nt|MolvaM: 1nt shuts out everyone|pg|| nt|ady: or queen their lerad agreement|pg|| nt|mdgraham: and as usual, when you lead fro KQJxx, 10xxx goes down in dummy|pg|| nt|MolvaM: bocchi plays 3@c open room|pg|| mb|p|nt|athene: whereas a lead-directing double could be as little as @DKQ10x or so|pg|| nt|pelu: 4@C : strong splinter - agre @D :)|pg|| nt|rcerreto: exclusion blackwood I think|pg|| nt|rcerreto: asking for aces excluding the @h A|pg|| nt|pelu: ok|pg|| mb|7D|nt|dburn: trumps 3-2 plus some work, I guess|pg|| mb|p|nt|ntmon: much depends on methods now|pg|| nt|hedyg: notice no XX from Gino to show Kx in @D|pg|| nt|hedyg: i mean: it is either forcing or it isnt?|pg|| nt|granguru: correct|pg|| nt|MolvaM: so 1NT conventionally asks for point count? :)|pg|| nt|hedyg: ok ty|pg|| nt|roswolf: well your supposed to bid again if you have a decent hand very like drury without the guaranteed trump support|pg|| nt|hedyg: , see above |pg|| nt|glen: semi-forcing is a terrible term, but was meant to distinguish between 1NT not-forcing limited to about 10 pts, and the modern style where it can have game invite values|pg|| nt|jcomyn: has to pass surely|pg|| nt|jfaria: doubt trading a plus for a a minus|pg|| nt|leao: this shud make with the @s !!!!! finesse|pg|| nt|leao: no need to finesse now|pg|| nt|Walddk2: 3@S in the context of a strong club system|pg|| nt|bobholl: which makes so not bad :)|pg|| nt|kit: I think need some singleton to bid 3@S|pg|| nt|rcerreto: N isn't going to pass this!!|pg|| mb|7S|nt|blum1956: not enough entries to make the @d s work and too bad @h distribution to crossruff effectively|pg|| nt|woozle: On the last board, Harding in the other room tried 3NT with the matching 4333s - down one also, but had chances for 10 in|pg|| nt|roswolf: brakes need to be applied now|pg|| nt|roswolf: simple auction|pg|| nt|fokal: 3 @d signifie j'ai l'enchère de 1@h passe 3 @h si c'est le partenaire qui a ouvert; c'est a dire soutien de 4 atouts constructif|pg|| mb|p|nt|hedyg: it is a terrible term indeed|pg|| nt|roswolf: but rarely does in my experience|pg|| nt|granguru: for me semif means "you may pass if you have a sub min hand or a min with a bal distr"|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 3@S denies a short suit|pg|| nt|pelu: so the bluff 2@D force N to bid 7@s|pg|| mb|p|nt|3for3: i'd say more than some :)|pg|| nt|3for3: but the black JT's are very useful|pg|| nt|hedyg: iv) For the KO stage, teams not in the first eight rankings in the Swiss A are re-ranked from 9-32 according to seeding based on WBF/EBL masterpoints. The teams ranked 1-8 in the ...|pg|| nt|hedyg: Swiss A, in order, each pick a team from the rest of the teams seeded 9 to 32. After these first eight choices the right to select the opponent passes to the highest remaining ...|pg|| nt|hedyg: seeded team and so on until the bracket is completed. For the purposes of composing brackets the number in the bracket is |pg|| nt|hedyg: determined by the order of the selection|pg|| nt|dburn: if North leads a heart, you have to commit yourself at once - if he doesn't, you have some breathing room|pg|| nt|bobholl: when they start with 4@H and 4@C that won't make|pg|| nt|leao: well, if they´re good enuf to bid, they´re good enuf to lead|pg|| mb|p|nt|roswolf: OTT|pg|| nt|athene: i guess one other advantage for 4@D over double is it takes some room away from opps|pg|| nt|rcerreto: well, this bid won't make the school books :)|pg|| nt|pelu: new french style?|pg|| nt|rcerreto: now... let's see the lead|pg|| pc|c2|nt|dburn: 6@d by East may be better than 6@d by West for that reason, but there's not a lot the Swedes can do about that now|pg|| nt|bobholl: sry 4 losers :)|pg|| nt|ralfwil: not quite fair - if he makes:)|pg|| nt|pelu: all exp @S will give S a problem|pg|| nt|rcerreto: the trump lead would have likely pinpointed the suit|pg|| pc|cA|nt|Walddk2: Makes? Hardlyt with 4 top losers|pg|| pc|c3|nt|mcarroll: which red suit to try is the question|pg|| pc|h6|pg|| nt|ntmon: very lucky for NS|pg|| nt|fokal: une manche sur la pointe des pieds|pg|| pc|s4|nt|woozle: A bit sad here that the third diamond will be ruffed with the short defensive trumps|pg|| nt|dburn: if Rodwell does lead a heart, he should choose the eight and not the jack|pg|| nt|rcerreto: Charles chose wisely not to lead trumps|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|dburn: since he probably would not lead the jack from KJ|pg|| nt|dburn: now, though, declarer may need to pick a black suit|pg|| nt|hedyg: easier for us, as usual|pg|| nt|3for3: those black suits look very similar..|pg|| nt|panja: this could still go down...|pg|| nt|bobholl: but a @H lead is only DD|pg|| nt|roswolf: lots of imps changing hands here|pg|| pc|sA|nt|ady: 3 clubs should just make|pg|| pc|s2|pg|| nt|athene: ok, it looks here as though madala has shown a diamond control|pg|| nt|panja: after @DA..EW cash Clubs and exit with @S...|pg|| pc|s3|nt|roswolf: i think n/s were reckless here although who was to blame we may never know|pg|| nt|bigtrain: with a short suit and good hand they bid 2NT|pg|| pc|s9|nt|leao: yes, no flat board yet|pg|| nt|leao: good spectator sport|pg|| nt|rcerreto: and now...|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sJ|pg|| nt|jfaria: But S really has got hte better hand... everybody talking...|pg|| nt|fokal: swing possible (probable) pour monaco A|pg|| nt|fokal: 21 points dans la ligne, régulier en face de régulier|pg|| nt|fokal: mais les jeux collent bien|pg|| nt|rcerreto: percentage play|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|o20|st||md|2ST943HT932DJ9C853,SQ87HAKJ7DAQ6CK97,SA65HQ86DK753CJT4,SKJ2H54DT842CAQ62|sv|b|nt|yorkbeach: result make match much closer|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 7N too scary for me -- at least in 7@C North can claim 100 honors :)|pg|| mb|1C|an| |mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1@C=multi-purpose 1 round force|pg|| mb|1S|an| |nt|ahollan1: 1@S=7+ hcp, 3+@S|pg|| nt|vugraphpl2: difference plummeted to 8 IMP after this board|pg|| mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2@D=RELAY, FG, a) 3@S, 18+ HCP b) 4@S, 16+ HCP [Odwrotka]|pg|| mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 3@C=3@S, 7-12 HCP, 4@C & 4@D|pg|| nt|vugraphpl2: but our leader is still Bessis :)|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i believe Odwrotka is the name of the conventional "fit reverse" from Polish Club|pg|| nt|vugraphpl2: running scores http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/osfrunda1.html|pg|| nt|yorkbeach: Al, you seem to have an amazing knowledge of the EW system|pg|| nt|yorkbeach: NS are going to take @S and @D, not much else|pg|| nt|yorkbeach: @c( is in the wrong place for a restricted choice mishap in @c :)|pg|| pc|h8|nt|ahollan1: i cheat --- study system, read notes when pairs will share ...|pg|| nt|yorkbeach: @c9|pg|| nt|vugraphpl2: 9 boards to go|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c4|nt|glen: what language would the notes be in, english, german, polish, russian?|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c3|pg|| nt|yorkbeach: 1 IMP a board will do it then for Monaco A :)|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d9|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pg|| nt|ahollan1: Mahaffey v Texan Aces 7 boards to go Mahaffey leads by TWO|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|s9|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|dJ|pg|| nt|yorkbeach: +2 still most likely for flat board|pg|| nt|vugraphpl2: what the emotions :)|pg|| pc|d6|nt|ahollan1: 1st copy of EW notes i had included German, Polish and English maybe some i couldn't translate was Russian :)|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d8|pc|s3|pg|| pc|dT|pc|s4|pc|s7|pc|d7|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|cK|pc|cT|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pc|c8|pg|| pc|c6|pc|h3|nt|ahollan1: "i couldn't translate" who am i kidding i used Google Translate|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c20|st||md|2ST943HT932DJ9C853,SQ87HAKJ7DAQ6CK97,SA65HQ86DK753CJT4,SKJ2H54DT842CAQ62|sv|b|nt|ntmon: anyway 2IMP for better game to Lavazza|pg|| nt|jcomyn: probably and then 3d forcing with at least 5-5|pg|| nt|hedyg: a Zia cuebid of 5@D|pg|| nt|athene: is bocchi teaching madala some interesting italian phrases at high speed now? if so, chances are, it was south's fault|pg|| nt|roswolf: another routine game hand|pg|| nt|glen: may see some italian science here|pg|| nt|granguru: but it has some second meaning here. idont have a great hand and 3cards to raise you|pg|| nt|hedyg: and new leader|pg|| nt|3for3: shall they try 6@D again?|pg|| nt|rmb1: 4@H - only have to avoid 6@H|pg|| nt|kit: still feels like only a 2@S bid by North|pg|| nt|kit: so junky|pg|| nt|bobholl: bochi madala neatly in 3 @S |pg|| nt|Walddk2: and aceless|pg|| nt|fokal: hum|pg|| nt|rcerreto: this could move a lot of imps|pg|| nt|pelu: I am neutral, but that was that N deserved :)|pg|| nt|ralfwil: but fair with -1 on the way they bid 7@s|pg|| nt|rcerreto: well, hard not to agree|pg|| mb|1C|nt|roswolf: didnt work - it is good to see that the top players are also mere mortals:)|pg|| nt|bigtrain: yeah... but then you look at LTC -- only 5 losers|pg|| mb|p|nt|MolvaM: maybe the 4-1 trumps could bring some action|pg|| nt|roswolf: this could get feisty|pg|| nt|dburn: number 11 buses, these - you can't make six diamonds for hours, and then two come at once|pg|| nt|jfaria: a nice unlucky game 4 EW|pg|| nt|jfaria: both red cards misplaced|pg|| nt|jcomyn: very unlucky but should be push|pg|| nt|Walddk5: Welcome to Andy|pg|| nt|ady: game hand at last 3NT routine for n/s|pg|| mb|1D|nt|3for3: this looks better than the last one|pg|| nt|leao: looks like another partscore hand|pg|| nt|kit: but sure losers|pg|| nt|bigtrain: true|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 2@S feels like an underbid but i hate 3@S|pg|| mb|p|nt|roswolf: or obsfuscation more like|pg|| nt|andyv: good evening all|pg|| nt|ritong: le team bessis gagne la donne 3, en partie grâce au saut fitté de l autre salle|pg|| mb|1H|nt|hedyg: we have been seeing a lot of that|pg|| nt|jfaria: hi Andy|pg|| nt|andyv: hi Joao:)|pg|| nt|bigtrain: @D + major|pg|| nt|Walddk2: It might be the Meckwell defence to 1NT :)|pg|| nt|MolvaM: after 5 quiet boards, we were expecting a deal where everyone holds an 8-card suit and a few voids.|pg|| mb|p|nt|hedyg: XX= Hx(x) in @H|pg|| nt|jcomyn: hey i am old enough already without taking a few hours off me. MORNING so|pg|| nt|ritong: qui leur a permis de jouer la bonne partielle a @d|pg|| mb|1N|nt|glen: 2@C is the science|pg|| nt|panja: and play carefully..on @D lead, for example..you have to go up with @DA, remove trumps and hope @C suit gives you a trick|pg|| nt|leao: he´ll invite 3NT, and it shudnt be accepted|pg|| nt|bobholl: 2nt all pass i guess|pg|| nt|roswolf: srtange move by east with a flat 8 count|pg|| nt|leao: and 2 jacks|pg|| nt|kit: problem is relative lengths undefined|pg|| mb|p|nt|3for3: 6@H a good save here.|pg|| nt|andyv: :)|pg|| nt|Walddk2: The advantage is that you are one level lower if partner prefers the minor|pg|| nt|Walddk2: compared to 2@H, H + a minor|pg|| nt|bigtrain: *says the author of wo9olsey :)|pg|| nt|bobholl: but than you now 5@H :)|pg|| nt|kit: depends on how many hearts 2@H shows|pg|| nt|bigtrain: usually 6|pg|| nt|bobholl: every defence has its good and its bad hands :)|pg|| nt|kit: I mean if 2@H is hearts + minor|pg|| mb|3N|nt|athene: 2@C is a reverse inverted minor - it shows a raise to the two-level|pg|| nt|roswolf: 2@c rather than 1@d was an interesting choice|pg|| nt|hedyg: bd 4 Fantunes in 7@s|pg|| nt|dburn: now, if West can bid 4@h as a sort of "last train" or "Bluhmer"...|pg|| nt|roswolf: the red bars goad the players again|pg|| nt|bobholl: if opponents points all in one hand you need less to make/invite|pg|| mb|p|nt|glen: natural or 16/17+ many hand types|pg|| nt|leao: id pass this (and perhaps apologize later)|pg|| mb|p|nt|woozle: Pepsi bids only 2NT...he apparently has lower standards for vulnerable 2H bids than I do|pg|| nt|woozle: Seamon-Molson raises to say "yes, I did overcall vulnerable"|pg|| nt|mcarroll: and the @S Ten is a vital asset|pg|| nt|woozle: I suppose she would never have raised without it|pg|| nt|dburn: ...which apparently he can...|pg|| nt|panja: and now, on @C lead by E.....this would go down|pg|| nt|rmb1: 3@S splinter|pg|| nt|rmb1: 4@D cue |pg|| nt|panja: right, and 4@D cue...so @C lead is automatic...|pg|| nt|bigtrain: the good thing about DONT/Meckwell is you avoid giving the opponents cardX|pg|| nt|bigtrain: which is a very bad thing|pg|| nt|bigtrain: oh|pg|| mb|p|nt|mcarroll: :)|pg|| nt|jcomyn: now thats aggressive but i suppose the 5-card suit is useful|pg|| nt|jcomyn: H lead?|pg|| nt|roswolf: nice contract|pg|| nt|dburn: ...then East-West have a chance|pg|| nt|hedyg: he knows his hcps, though not heavy , are good|pg|| nt|3for3: not sure what rodwell's double of 4@H was, but it will make it easier, as now east can show heart control.|pg|| nt|hedyg: Upmarks XX= 1st rd control|pg|| nt|jfaria: played by the "wrong" side, S on lead could try a @d|pg|| nt|andyv: 3@h probably shows any 4 card without strength being a factor|pg|| nt|roswolf: i would pass and NOT apologise|pg|| pc|s3|nt|ntmon: actually E hand is rather strong in 15-17 range|pg|| nt|ntmon: roles home now|pg|| nt|jcomyn: rolls even|pg|| nt|ntmon: rolls* :)|pg|| nt|glen: 2@S was natural, usually 2@Ss, less than 8|pg|| nt|roswolf: for once i understand their bidding:)|pg|| nt|jfaria: think W will try the @h and will delay @d till the end|pg|| nt|leao: it wud look better with the @h 10|pg|| nt|roswolf: it has been led the 8 will do!|pg|| nt|leao: but the 8 is a nice card to have for West|pg|| nt|rcerreto: this a French special: anticipate a 4 card major with the strong balanced hand|pg|| nt|ralfwil: 11 tricks as the cards lie|pg|| nt|rcerreto: I always liked it|pg|| pc|s7|nt|glen: 3@H was the big hand, natural|pg|| nt|hedyg: 2@c either nat or any strong hand|pg|| nt|hedyg: according to the CC|pg|| pc|s5|nt|hedyg: then 3@H= strong hand with @s+@H|pg|| nt|hedyg: impressive bidding|pg|| nt|bobholl: no cover :(|pg|| nt|rcerreto: so strange almost no one out of France play this way|pg|| pc|sJ|pg|| nt|dburn: good bid, that|pg|| nt|3for3: well done ew|pg|| nt|dburn: still, even if West had only bid five, East might have bid six|pg|| nt|andyv: may lead @ss twice to hand|pg|| nt|jfaria: now @s|pg|| nt|jcomyn: exactly|pg|| nt|andyv: even dbl dummy can't see a way to strip the hand and throw S in to break the @d suit|pg|| nt|leao: not now|pg|| pc|d4|nt|roswolf: i didnt expect this contract|pg|| nt|roswolf: should go -1|pg|| nt|hedyg: would you bid 1NT as W over 1@D?|pg|| pc|d9|nt|roswolf: wierd e/e are still on tilt|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d3|pg|| nt|roswolf: no i wouldnt|pg|| nt|hedyg: hmm maybe that is a xfer too|pg|| nt|3for3: aha. the save is found.|pg|| nt|bobholl: 9 has 5 to 2 chance to be in south :)|pg|| nt|leao: cud be|pg|| nt|roswolf: or even e/w|pg|| nt|leao: :)|pg|| nt|leao: if N had 109 in @h he can block the suit at some stage|pg|| nt|leao: "he" meanind declarer|pg|| nt|leao: meanind=meaning|pg|| nt|leao: @d and @h back?|pg|| nt|MolvaM: even 4nt is not so comfortable with 31 hcp here altho he will probably make 4|pg|| pc|dA|nt|jcomyn: h lkead d switch and another h but who would find that|pg|| nt|roswolf: ah a natural raise you mean bill:)|pg|| nt|hedyg: "only" -5?|pg|| pc|d5|nt|jfaria: that doesnt solve the problem, but maybe a favourable ending can be reached better that 50% chance after @h fails|pg|| nt|andyv: dbl dummy can' take the @h hook|pg|| nt|bobholl: that's DD analysis and they do it :)|pg|| pc|d2|nt|kit: they don't have safe card dbls vs. art 2m -- might stop right there|pg|| nt|MolvaM: board 18 corrected to 7 imp|pg|| nt|MolvaM: so 1 imp diference only|pg|| nt|ady: was safer trun Q@C trick 2|pg|| pc|dJ|pg|| nt|dburn: only four, I think|pg|| nt|hedyg: oh only 4|pg|| nt|hedyg: cheap!|pg|| nt|3for3: 8 easy aces|pg|| nt|jfaria: S must not try a @d now|pg|| nt|jcomyn: club exit|pg|| nt|andyv: he has 2 easy exits so no need to rush @d|pg|| pc|d6|nt|athene: it's good to see people raising clubs|pg|| nt|athene: doesn't happen often :)|pg|| nt|roswolf: yes of course they play transfers over 1@C -doh:(|pg|| nt|jcomyn: oh no|pg|| nt|andyv: but what do I know|pg|| nt|jfaria: MUST NOT :(|pg|| nt|jcomyn: why do that with 2 easy options|pg|| nt|jfaria: now there is a psic warfare|pg|| nt|andyv: now West has to think since S wasn't being forced to lead @d that he may be underleading his Ace. |pg|| nt|jfaria: Should accept the gift and let run to J?|pg|| nt|andyv: I don't think it's a gift|pg|| pc|dK|nt|jcomyn: and bocchi-Madala found that defence in open room|pg|| nt|andyv: well done|pg|| nt|jcomyn: yes but could s be underleading the ace - unlikely|pg|| nt|jfaria: as the cards lie it is|pg|| pc|d8|nt|woozle: Fiona decided that spades aren't promising on lead, so tries a surprise attack in clubs. Pepsi is surprised, but not so surprised that he will forget to take his now ten top tricks|pg|| pc|c3|pg|| nt|ntmon: well deserved|pg|| nt|jcomyn: led d first and then h|pg|| nt|jcomyn: very good but i wont lead a s whatever else|pg|| nt|jfaria: so Maha didnt gave credit to the duch jr|pg|| nt|panja: @C6 by West..the middle card...this must be neutral card|pg|| pc|sA|nt|bigtrain: i LOVE playing vs art 2m|pg|| pc|s2|nt|hedyg: fine bidding all around|pg|| pc|s4|nt|bigtrain: cardX are very useful|pg|| nt|bobholl: did tokay really play @C 9 ?|pg|| nt|bigtrain: any system should go out of its way to reduce the number available to the opponents|pg|| nt|bigtrain: a CARD X doesn;t say anything about suit lengths - only shows values and sets up forcing auctions - facilitates penalty vs play options|pg|| nt|MolvaM: now not so safe|pg|| pc|s8|pg|| nt|jfaria: and took the gift|pg|| nt|leao: @s wont split|pg|| pc|s6|nt|andyv: one of the few times opps did something that was actually for declarer's benefit|pg|| nt|ritong: nous retransmettrons des matches seniors et dames a la prochaine session, dans 45 minutes|pg|| pc|sK|nt|hedyg: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswleaderb.html|pg|| pc|s9|nt|MolvaM: kamras thinking?|pg|| nt|hedyg: hardly|pg|| nt|VugraphPLA: i did mistake , he should not have 7 of spade now |pg|| nt|MolvaM: but @d position is ok for Lev|pg|| pc|sQ|pg|| pc|dT|nt|leao: bold|pg|| pc|c5|pc|h7|nt|MolvaM: bocchi plays 3nt as well|pg|| pc|d7|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|c7|pc|c4|pg|| nt|ntmon: i have some sympathy - @S looks as a safe lead after invitational sequence|pg|| nt|rcerreto: after a few fireforks player needed a relaxing board like this one|pg|| mc|11|nt|rmb1: Playing for @SKxx|pg|| nt|ritong: pendant ce temps, michel se débat au bout de son fil, il ne s en sortira pas a premiere vue|pg|| nt|rcerreto: fireworks|pg|| pg|| qx|o21|st||md|3ST9HQ9852DQT4C764,SQ6532H63DKJ53CQT,SK874HKJ4DA9CA852,SAJHAT7D8762CKJ93|sv|n|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2D|an| |mb|p|nt|glen: some will bid 2@S here when 2@H is passed arround|pg|| mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|vugraphpl2: running scores http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/osfrunda1.html|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s4|pc|sJ|pc|s9|pc|s2|pg|| pc|c3|nt|yorkbeach: I am afraid I have forgotten most of the German I knew|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pg|| nt|yorkbeach: vergessen|pg|| nt|glen: declarer can work on @Cs for a @H discard|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h3|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c6|pc|cT|pc|c2|pg|| pc|sA|pc|sT|pc|s3|pc|s7|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c7|nt|yorkbeach: will need to make to flatten 100 from other table|pg|| pc|h6|pc|c5|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|dJ|pc|dA|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h7|pc|h5|pc|s5|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d9|pc|d6|pc|dT|pg|| pc|d3|mc|8|pg|| qx|c21|st||md|3ST9HQ9852DQT4C764,SQ6532H63DKJ53CQT,SK874HKJ4DA9CA852,SAJHAT7D8762CKJ93|sv|n|nt|woozle: Can make eleven tricks in spades EW by squeezing south in the red suits|pg|| nt|blum1956: If North opens a strong 1NT, what will West bid&|pg|| nt|blum1956: ?|pg|| nt|woozle: North much too strong for a strong notrump...although at favourable I might open 2NT|pg|| nt|woozle: A strong notrump is the second best preempt in bridge, after 2NT|pg|| nt|woozle: Is Pepsi deep in the tank, or is this a coffee break?|pg|| nt|blum1956: This time 1@c is the worst option for North - East may even preempt in @s s wich solves the problem for EW|pg|| nt|jcomyn: but nobody bid h - or s I suppose, so|pg|| nt|ntmon: Lavazza builds a sound, deserved lead|pg|| nt|MolvaM: better take the shortcut :)|pg|| nt|hedyg: ok np|pg|| nt|hedyg: just wanted to see if we were awake?|pg|| nt|roswolf: a simple pass would have earnt a nice 5 imp swing|pg|| nt|bobholl: first push :)|pg|| nt|leao: rite|pg|| mb|1N|nt|Walddk4: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswrunda5.html running now|pg|| nt|3for3: certainly interesting hands..|pg|| nt|rmb1: Netherland Juniour tried 6@C -1 on 19, another 11IMP to Mahaffey.|pg|| nt|panja: B21, 3N does not make for NS..but they have 27 HCP..so they will try to bid some game...|pg|| nt|fokal: et pourtant il y a une intervention a 1 @h....|pg|| mb|p|nt|athene: 4@D would be a splinter we assume|pg|| nt|athene: but he might not want to do that with a singleton ace|pg|| nt|roswolf: south will brush the intervention aside|pg|| nt|roswolf: this might be carnage|pg|| nt|hedyg: Mahaffey has dropped to 6th|pg|| nt|dburn: 2@d one major|pg|| nt|3for3: 4@D the other?|pg|| nt|roswolf: now this might end up in carnage|pg|| nt|leao: another one... agree|pg|| nt|leao: this has to be @h, no?|pg|| nt|bobholl: guess multi|pg|| nt|ady: another game likely 4@S|pg|| nt|ady: maybe 3NT|pg|| nt|MolvaM: green vs red sementa feels free to overcall|pg|| nt|hawe45: Quand on s´arrete á 2 @H á la donne 5, on á vu trop de surenchéres non-serieuses chex le partenaire...|pg|| nt|hawe45: chez|pg|| nt|ritong: un coup de tournoi par paires|pg|| mb|2D|nt|athene: 3@D will be a spade raise anyway; presumably 3@C would be hearts|pg|| nt|hedyg: unusual vs unusual|pg|| nt|3for3: :)|pg|| nt|jcomyn: might try 3nt|pg|| nt|andyv: yes, very tempting|pg|| nt|roswolf: west is on some sort of trip if he overcalls 1nt on that rubbish|pg|| nt|leao: so they mite end up in @s.... less dreadful|pg|| nt|pelu: on board 19 they saet the fire themselves - sh be a normal easy board to 6@s|pg|| mb|p|nt|hedyg: 3@d showing invite + in @s|pg|| nt|roswolf: south should pass|pg|| nt|MolvaM: sementa's pass says what? I have diamonds? |pg|| nt|roswolf: they will play in 4@H|pg|| nt|hedyg: running scores: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswrunda6.html|pg|| nt|roswolf: the auction in the other room was ultimately a phantom|pg|| nt|dburn: Cullin lurking|pg|| nt|andyv: but dblton in @s may slow him down|pg|| nt|panja: EW, of course, might create obstacles in their path and save them|pg|| nt|leao: hu-oh|pg|| mb|2H|nt|jcomyn: and can add toit here|pg|| nt|hedyg: 3@c would be invite + in @h|pg|| nt|roswolf: he has sufficient defence|pg|| nt|MolvaM: or just that he has nothing to say|pg|| nt|andyv: interesting problem for W|pg|| nt|leao: 3NT will NOT be a good contract|pg|| nt|ady: either making|pg|| nt|ritong: 3SA chez nord, toutes les levées si ouest entame petit @d|pg|| mb|p|nt|woozle: Fiona, bids the routine (at this vul) 2S|pg|| nt|roswolf: to the limit for west|pg|| nt|andyv: most prudent is 4@c|pg|| nt|jfaria: he has got the "expected"|pg|| mb|p|nt|mcarroll: well predicted!|pg|| nt|roswolf: west must make his own arrangements|pg|| nt|andyv: enterprising is 4@h|pg|| nt|jfaria: 4@c looks ok to me|pg|| mb|p|nt|woozle: McGann takes the quick path to game|pg|| nt|roswolf: good judgment|pg|| nt|athene: does bocchi have to find the diamond lead for 500 here?|pg|| nt|dburn: trying to look like a man saving in 4@s|pg|| nt|panja: you mean board 18...6@C|pg|| nt|roswolf: north ignores the diversion|pg|| nt|MolvaM: 3@h was?|pg|| nt|MolvaM: ask heart stops? or transfer to spades?|pg|| nt|pelu: not easy - but still no fire :)|pg|| pc|d6|nt|hedyg: maybe this is a hand t show invite + in @H and when d bids @H bid @s to show both majors|pg|| nt|roswolf: the noose tightens|pg|| nt|hedyg: surely he has no 4 cards in any other suit than @d|pg|| nt|hedyg: some superbergen|pg|| nt|jcomyn: oops|pg|| nt|roswolf: and disappears up his own exhaust|pg|| nt|leao: maybe, even with a @h lead...|pg|| nt|leao: it will make now|pg|| nt|MolvaM: ok lev said spades|pg|| nt|ady: club lead and heartt return best|pg|| nt|rcerreto: once you normally sets @s as suit, investigating the trump strength is way easier|pg|| pc|d4|nt|athene: hmmm ok this looks as though bocchi made a forcing pass and now a slam try in spades which is surely a bit optimistic with his hand|pg|| nt|roswolf: south tempted to bid on!?|pg|| nt|MolvaM: duboins hand looked so good after rho opened 1@d. now it looks not so attractive|pg|| nt|hedyg: oy vey!|pg|| nt|roswolf: high noon shoot out|pg|| nt|glen: sementa rips up cards and leaves table|pg|| nt|MolvaM: a void usually means action|pg|| nt|roswolf: blood will flow but whose is not clear|pg|| nt|hedyg: why XX?|pg|| nt|glen: actual it is xxxx since previous xx|pg|| nt|hedyg: surely if Sementa had a better suit he would have bid it?|pg|| nt|rcerreto: Axxxx to Kxxx doesn't make for a good grand|pg|| pc|dJ|nt|roswolf: now dbl?|pg|| nt|dburn: Meckstroth has seen his sort before, though|pg|| nt|3for3: well, his hand suggests bidding too |pg|| nt|hedyg: 1NT= 14-16|pg|| nt|hedyg: it is an upgrade|pg|| nt|roswolf: or 13 actually:)|pg|| nt|hedyg: as usual in your singleton|pg|| nt|VugraphPLA: jaki wynik , wyniki w necie nie dzialaja |pg|| nt|andyv: with 5 losers, it's too much to ask for a passed hand to cover 3 of them|pg|| nt|panja: 1@S seems like denying a 4 M...I am not sure it shows @D Suit ...|pg|| nt|rmb1: 1@S part of transfer-response structure to 1@C - denies either major|pg|| pc|dA|pg|| nt|roswolf: good judgment again|pg|| nt|hedyg: trying to put N under pressure?|pg|| nt|VugraphPLA: oops|pg|| nt|jfaria: looks like we r watching a "all jr" TM :)|pg|| nt|jfaria: optimism galore|pg|| nt|andyv: interesting way of saying "oops", Tad:)|pg|| nt|jcomyn: hey leave the irish to me|pg|| nt|roswolf: yes even i would make this|pg|| nt|MolvaM: thanks tadeusz (our fine operator in poznan)|pg|| nt|hawe45: 6 @H joué par Nord - meme par equipes, sportif - mais gagne de temps en temps...|pg|| nt|fokal: pas de rebid après 1P 1SA (on est trop beau pour passe), c'est pour ca qu'il a ouvert d'1SA directement)|pg|| nt|pelu: better the A10xx, K9xxx - whit out @S 10 9 would have mede|pg|| nt|ralfwil: bnut easier when @s are 2-2 Rodolfo:)|pg|| nt|pelu: better than :)|pg|| pc|hK|nt|roswolf: will n/s run out of red cards|pg|| nt|kit: 4 hearts, 2 spades, 2 aces = 8 tricks|pg|| pc|hA|nt|jcomyn: but very difficult|pg|| nt|ntmon: EW in OR might know that they're behind, so try to push|pg|| nt|panja: only 8 tricks for NS..bu cashing Diamonds might lead to some useful situation|pg|| pc|h2|nt|hedyg: passssssssssssssss|pg|| nt|hedyg: surely no need to correct to 2@H!|pg|| nt|roswolf: might give preference|pg|| nt|roswolf: oh well 2 imps to the swedes|pg|| pc|h3|pg|| nt|hedyg: cannot be a forcing pass opposite what might be just invite|pg|| nt|glen: i still think ripping up cards will result in lowest possible minus score|pg|| nt|MolvaM: well 8 card fit is better than nothing|pg|| nt|hedyg: oh no !|pg|| nt|hedyg: might try 3NT after X of 3@D?|pg|| nt|rcerreto: at times, having the trump 10 is a real curse :)|pg|| pc|c3|nt|ady: Lev judged 3NT with AQ hearts and 3 small spades better|pg|| nt|mdgraham: spades and game-forcing probably|pg|| pc|c4|nt|MolvaM: ahh it goes on|pg|| nt|roswolf: frying pan into fire|pg|| nt|panja: unlikey here though, EW don't seem to have any interesting option for discarding differently..|pg|| nt|panja: W will sluff @H, E will sluff @H|pg|| nt|rmb1: Might try a @H now|pg|| nt|panja: try and slip @H trick through East?|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|athene: well it can be if you agree it is|pg|| pc|c5|pg|| nt|hedyg: what?|pg|| nt|MolvaM: 5 card fit now|pg|| nt|hedyg: are we watching the right board?|pg|| nt|glen: now there are fires, and there is this|pg|| nt|roswolf: this would be funny a5-0 fit|pg|| nt|hedyg: would be?|pg|| nt|roswolf: you shouldnt laugh at a funeral|pg|| nt|hedyg: ok folks! see? it can happen to anybody!|pg|| nt|MolvaM: if duboin had not rdbl'd it would have benn just ok|pg|| nt|hedyg: next time i play in my cuebid i must try to remember this moment|pg|| nt|roswolf: the italian will be x -rated in the post mortem|pg|| nt|MolvaM: looks like hand from the menagerie where both sides can play 2@dX|pg|| pc|cT|nt|roswolf: low trump to start|pg|| nt|granguru: diagnostic?|pg|| nt|glen: the best thing for NS to do after the hand is leave table, then come back when decibel level is below 120|pg|| nt|hedyg: call an ambulance|pg|| nt|granguru: --4?|pg|| nt|roswolf: gib says -7 dd|pg|| nt|granguru: ducking is best here|pg|| nt|hedyg: desperately looking for an entry to his hand|pg|| nt|roswolf: well if slam is on for n/s i still tale the penalty 1700|pg|| nt|ralfwil: nice switch!|pg|| pc|cA|nt|Walddk5: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswrunda3.html|pg|| nt|roswolf: take|pg|| pc|cJ|nt|hedyg: it is only when Madala doubles that he is better than invite|pg|| nt|3for3: a little chancy for cullin to double. is meck is 0-2 in the blacks, might be cold, or his side could be making. |pg|| nt|hedyg: just dont play @D|pg|| nt|hedyg: 10@H was discouraging|pg|| nt|hedyg: in this situation it just denies the ace|pg|| nt|hedyg: seemed easier to disc 10@D|pg|| pc|c6|pg|| pc|d9|nt|hedyg: if the 3@D bid had been gf, then it would have been a forcing pass|pg|| nt|athene: it's reasonable enough to play pass forcing if you showed at least game invite values and opps go to 5-level; 99% of the time they are advance saccing|pg|| nt|hawe45: Flanc paysan - et correct(e)|pg|| pc|d2|nt|hedyg: too bad it isnt on?|pg|| pc|dT|nt|bobholl: 2@D 1@H 1@S 1@C = 5 |pg|| pc|dK|pg|| nt|jcomyn: joao it is go leor|pg|| nt|roswolf: in fact iwould claim 10 west is endplayed in hearts|pg|| nt|leao: but he wud have to extract the @d first|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sK|nt|roswolf: the vampires gather for their feast|pg|| nt|jfaria: singleton lead with singleton trump :) but avoiding the looser @d lead|pg|| pc|sA|nt|jcomyn: see you even get language lessons on this show|pg|| pc|s9|pg|| pc|cK|nt|glen: (promo for HBO true blood new season)|pg|| pc|c7|nt|rcerreto: in the while, in OR played a sound 6@s closing the gap to 8 imps|pg|| pc|s6|nt|woozle: Squeeze is broken up if North wins the second spade and leads a red suit - can't get off dummy without losing a menace|pg|| pc|c2|pg|| nt|roswolf: lol|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 8 + 5 = 13 :)|pg|| nt|ady: making 3NT with just 1 spade trick|pg|| nt|rcerreto: but I forgot to mention that the good stop at 3@h by the Bessis was (deservedly) worth 6 imps to them|pg|| pc|c9|pc|sT|pc|d5|pc|c8|pg|| nt|bobholl: will still happen :)|pg|| nt|roswolf: yup|pg|| nt|leao: yes|pg|| pc|d7|nt|VugraphPLA: a little break :) |pg|| nt|bobholl: they will come to the same conclusion :)|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|MolvaM: cant double finesse I thk. so has to settle for just making|pg|| pc|d3|pc|s4|pg|| nt|pelu: Cronier - NL 82-74 - and Tyrkey - Joel 105-89 in Women semi|pg|| pc|h5|nt|roswolf: THE TRANSFER DOESNT WORK|pg|| nt|hedyg: he bid 4@H too fast imo|pg|| nt|roswolf: may have had a squeeze if he hadnt played the club q|pg|| nt|hedyg: Pepsi double should have put him into the right contract|pg|| nt|panja: South isn't playing like a youngster....too safe..|pg|| pc|h6|nt|hedyg: in OR for some reason N bid 1@s over the X instead of XX|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|jfaria: again MUST NOT play @d|pg|| pc|h7|pg|| pc|h4|mc|7|pg|| qx|o22|st||md|4SA432HAJ9753DT62C,ST9HDKQJ8754CJ976,SQ76HQ6D3CAKQT532,SKJ85HKT842DA9C84|sv|e|nt|ahollan1: meckwell played 1N West|pg|| mb|1H|mb|p|nt|vugraphpl2: running scores http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/osfrunda1.html|pg|| nt|vugraphpl2: information www.poznan2011.pl|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 1@H=11-18 5+@H [sometimes stronger with 2-suiter]|pg|| nt|glen: where is roland when we need him?|pg|| mb|1N|nt|ahollan1: will Bompis duplicate the PASS?|pg|| nt|vugraphpl2: i don't know :(|pg|| mb|2C|mb|p|nt|glen: 2@D opening to show 4@S-5@Hs, and W can pass|pg|| mb|p|mb|3D|nt|vugraphpl2: 7 boards to go :)|pg|| nt|yuval10: very exciting finish for both matches|pg|| nt|ahollan1: yes indeed Yuval|pg|| nt|vugraphpl2: at the 1st table Mahaffey is leading still with 2IMP difference|pg|| mb|4C|mb|p|nt|glen: 4@C is quite the bid|pg|| nt|glen: suit is nice, but Qxx, Qx in majors is not|pg|| nt|vugraphpl2: running scores http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/osfrunda1.html|pg|| mb|p|nt|vugraphpl2: information www.poznan2011.pl|pg|| nt|vugraphpl2: schedule www.poznan2011.pl/schedule|pg|| nt|vugraphpl2: bulletin www.poznan2011.pl/bulletins |pg|| nt|ahollan1: DBL would be quite a coup|pg|| nt|vugraphpl2: schedule in your time zone http://www.bridgebase.com/vugraph/schedule.php|pg|| nt|glen: schedule for the next bid: any minute now|pg|| mb|p|nt|vugraphpl2: :)|pg|| pc|c4|nt|glen: W thanks pd for his opening lead|pg|| nt|ahollan1: ouch|pg|| nt|yuval10: making now|pg|| pc|h3|nt|yuval10: needed some @h lead and @s switch to defeat i guess|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|h5|nt|yorkbeach: risky to lead trumps against a non-fit auction|pg|| pc|c6|pg|| pc|cK|pc|h4|pc|dT|pc|c7|pg|| pc|cT|pc|s5|pc|d2|pc|c9|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|d8|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dJ|pc|d3|pc|d9|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s6|pc|s8|pc|sA|pg|| nt|ahollan1: unlike Rodwell's Semi-Force 1N Smirnov's was Forcing, so Bompis was always going to get a 2nd chance to bid|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|c22|st||md|4SA432HAJ9753DT62C,ST9HDKQJ8754CJ976,SQ76HQ6D3CAKQT532,SKJ85HKT842DA9C84|sv|e|nt|woozle: OK, no squeeze if you don't play off your trumps...it's like half-strangling somebody|pg|| nt|3for3: as long as rodwell didnt play @D all ok. He had no reason to against 5@S undoubled. If Meck had doubled, might have been looking for extra 200 point undertricks. here the goal ...|pg|| nt|3for3: was a modest +50|pg|| nt|jfaria: hard to play at Meckwell speed, they are at least 2 boards ahead|pg|| nt|jcomyn: cards very nicely placed here but still only 3nt bid|pg|| nt|panja: 6@H on one of two finesses...good 6@H really for EW|pg|| nt|bobholl: they smoke tadeusz ?|pg|| nt|leao: 2@c EW or 3@d NS... any other possibilities?|pg|| nt|bobholl: 4@D in other room migth go down :)|pg|| nt|leao: here it is again :)|pg|| nt|roswolf: ah we now have 8|pg|| nt|MolvaM: we shall see only after 7 more boards|pg|| mb|1H|nt|jcomyn: yes normal contract |pg|| nt|athene: but we just don't know the NS agreements here (or i don't anyway) :)|pg|| nt|andyv: 5-5 hand|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 1@C = 16+|pg|| mb|p|nt|roswolf: lots of hcp but not much chance of a slam|pg|| nt|athene: i don't understand the last hand|pg|| nt|athene: if west just holds up his @SA isn't he beating 5@S?|pg|| nt|hedyg: he is, needs to hold up twice|pg|| nt|athene: he ducks twice - now if bocchi plays another trump he takes the ace and plays a fourth and the club ruff goes|pg|| nt|VugraphPLA: TD was called , Ginossar think 5s was -1 |pg|| nt|athene: if bocchi ruffs a club himself, then west can simply force the south hand in clubs|pg|| nt|hedyg: Tadeusz, did Gino duck the A@S?|pg|| nt|athene: maybe bocchi claimed 11 or something and west agreed without really thinking it through|pg|| nt|athene: seems unlikely though|pg|| nt|roswolf: indeed|pg|| nt|roswolf: but fatigue does play its part|pg|| nt|hedyg: not that unlikely, only 4-0 @ss could beat him|pg|| nt|hedyg: so he might well have played a @s from hand and claimed|pg|| nt|VugraphPLA: Well i haven't seen , Bocchi has just claimed|pg|| nt|hedyg: ok so we will wait, once declarer claims all play stops and you call the TD if you dont agree|pg|| nt|VugraphPLA: We are waiting for decision |pg|| nt|roswolf: one fir the bulletin i think as do a few others!:)|pg|| nt|3for3: Is Upmark from the Steve Robinson school...All 5 card majors? Otherwise, I prefer 1@D with this shape|pg|| nt|hedyg: LOL|pg|| nt|hedyg: me 2|pg|| nt|jcomyn: 2nt-3nt|pg|| nt|roswolf: that is a horrible 1nt|pg|| mb|3D|nt|jcomyn: might try 3nt here a behind bid|pg|| nt|hedyg: must be from the same family|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 2@D = 8-10 balanced|pg|| nt|Walddk2: How do they treat a 25+ hand, Walter?|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 2NT = waiting|pg|| nt|ady: slam zone for e/w|pg|| nt|fokal: 1@s or 2 @h ?|pg|| mb|p|nt|dburn: may not be so easy to stay low enough - that 1@s might turn out to waste space rather than save it|pg|| nt|roswolf: yes 1@D for me too|pg|| nt|3for3: it often does|pg|| nt|dburn: still, it seems that West can use relays of some kind, rather than have the auction start 1@s-2@h-3@d|pg|| nt|MolvaM: ew just need to bid the slam. the hand plays itself then|pg|| nt|mdgraham: looks normal to get to 4@S - a bit tin for slam, although you might well make 12 tricks|pg|| mb|p|nt|MolvaM: living thru this at the table is bad, but worse will come during scoring when you say minus 1400 |pg|| nt|roswolf: yes 3nt much superior|pg|| nt|hedyg: 2@c gf relay|pg|| nt|roswolf: but no difficulty bidding game|pg|| nt|bobholl: if you are playing 11-13 it is not :)|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 3@C = 4@H no 4@S|pg|| mb|p|nt|hedyg: 2NT= 8-10 ZZ with a singleton|pg|| nt|3for3: how do you find 6@D opposite Q@S, A@H, a @D honor and A@C?|pg|| nt|roswolf: they wont gey overboard either|pg|| nt|hedyg: ZZ points..|pg|| nt|3for3: or even less with better diamond fit|pg|| nt|hedyg: A=3, K=2 and Q=1|pg|| nt|panja: against, after the 'offside' 2Nt bid..it might be difficult to bid it with conviction....but likely, W will push it|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 3@D asks|pg|| nt|fokal: 1@s= texas pour les sans atouts|pg|| nt|ritong: michel va sans doute essayer d orienter les SA vers en face|pg|| nt|fokal: équivalent du contre d'appel|pg|| pc|cA|nt|woozle: McGann has been there before - the big preempt putting pressure on NS in exchange for losing an occasional miracle slam|pg|| nt|glen: 2NT now?|pg|| nt|roswolf: n/s on the previous bd are playing in 5@D|pg|| nt|roswolf: IN THE OTHER ROOM|pg|| nt|andyv: with @h lead, N can get 3 @h tricks|pg|| nt|panja: that is, push it upwards|pg|| nt|rmb1: Is 2NT OK here ?|pg|| pc|c4|nt|jcomyn: lots of controls in n hand why not 2nt|pg|| nt|dburn: but an initial 1@d would not have shown diamonds, and if East can show what he has by responding to relays, 1@s may lead to an easier auction all round|pg|| nt|hedyg: 3@c relay|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 3@H = 4@C|pg|| pc|h7|nt|twcho: and 2D=bal, 8-10?|pg|| pc|c6|pg|| nt|woozle: Pepsi chooses to go quietly with his 17-count, fearing that a double will be pulled too often|pg|| nt|roswolf: nice judgment here|pg|| nt|MolvaM: well it must be makable since NS took 11 tricks here|pg|| nt|roswolf: this is dangerous|pg|| nt|dburn: well, it looks dangerous, but they probably have it under control|pg|| nt|3for3: this is one of the things that makes bridge hard to 'sell' to the general public.|pg|| nt|panja: ok to upgrade a point...even if your range is 20-21|pg|| nt|roswolf: ok maximum then|pg|| nt|ady: would need to avoid a spade loser as well as K@C onside so slam poor|pg|| pc|d3|nt|roswolf: e/w will need a lot of the captain's coffee at the end of this match she wont be very sympathetic|pg|| nt|jfaria: think W may be squeezed on the reds|pg|| nt|MolvaM: right|pg|| nt|fokal: aurait pu aussi faire un cue bid, garantissant 4 (voire 5) @c ; mais avec un 4333, il a préféré orienter son jeu vers les SA|pg|| pc|d9|nt|hedyg: "please continue to play, i will give you my decision"|pg|| nt|3for3: Even expert commentators have no clue what is happening|pg|| nt|panja: but I don't quite like the 2Nt opening itself.........it is an 'offside' opening, to borrow a term from football, too far too soon, a self-preemptive...|pg|| nt|kit: so after all that, they will get to 6NT like everybody else|pg|| nt|bobholl: i even thougth 8-13 bal but not sure|pg|| nt|ritong: et ne touche pas genre @h Dx ou Jx(x) qui lauraut bien arrangé|pg|| nt|ritong: l'aurait*|pg|| nt|hawe45: Meme Valet 3eme en Nord marche bien comme déclarant|pg|| pc|d2|nt|hawe45: Tres proche á génial - et rien perdu|pg|| pc|dJ|pg|| nt|woozle: If the match were closer, he probably would have acted|pg|| nt|blum1956: This is a partscore board besides McGann has another opinion))|pg|| nt|ntmon: NS play negative frre bids (NFB) after intervention, so S has extras and N accepts|pg|| nt|jcomyn: agree but prefer playing from n|pg|| nt|roswolf: lol:)|pg|| nt|hedyg: 4@C showing short?|pg|| nt|hedyg: what about @H?|pg|| nt|MolvaM: but today the boards seem to fvor the overbidders. there were 2 slam hands first segment where you could bid the grand to it|pg|| pc|s9|nt|hedyg: i am sure there is no bid to show both singletons|pg|| nt|dburn: I expect that by now West knows what East has|pg|| nt|3for3: 4@C was probably 5161 with a stiff DUECE of hearts :)|pg|| nt|rmb1: If 4@D is purely choise of games then East must bid 4@H, If 4@D has slam try overtones surely East must bid on with a fit for both suits|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 2@D onlly 8-10|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s5|nt|ritong: oui, comme olivier je parle anglais:) traduisez Jx(x) par Vx(x)|pg|| pc|s2|pg|| nt|granguru: Duboin should have passed 1@H doubled but I give sementa the greatest part of guilt.for not passing 2@C.|pg|| nt|hedyg: Swedish experts think he showed exact pattern, thus wasted hcps in W hand|pg|| nt|dburn: people don't spend months and years devising these methods just to make life difficult for the commentators|pg|| nt|dburn: they do it because it helps them reach more right contracts than wrong ones|pg|| nt|bigtrain: re: 25... if partner bids negative 1@D they use 2@H as a kokish relay|pg|| pc|sT|nt|jfaria: but that would require a perfect dd play by N I think|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s8|nt|jcomyn: h lead from w would n ot be nice|pg|| nt|hedyg: a lot of messages from specs about the last board|pg|| nt|roswolf: i agree with that 1@HX probably not too bad|pg|| nt|granguru: although 2@C is probably -4 |pg|| nt|glen: would make a fun "you be the judge" in the "the bridge world"|pg|| nt|leao: oops|pg|| nt|roswolf: suckered into it|pg|| nt|leao: his main trick source has just sprung a leak|pg|| nt|bobholl: walter you play their system completely :)?|pg|| pc|sA|pg|| nt|rcerreto: defense did his best to avoid a ruff in dummy|pg|| nt|rcerreto: but the @s position left no chances to them|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d4|nt|hawe45: Mais c´est bon pour vous - les francais - de vous entrainer en anglais...|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|ntmon: sure, @H better for defence but again .. not easy|pg|| nt|hedyg: it is quite clear: if the A@S is ducked twice he cannot make 5@ss|pg|| nt|MolvaM: to just make it|pg|| pc|dA|pg|| nt|granguru: it will surely appear in some more years|pg|| nt|bigtrain: the whole enchilada|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s3|nt|jcomyn: anyone know the ages of the dutch juniors|pg|| nt|bobholl: only @H now will result in loss for netherlands white|pg|| nt|leao: does pard know about the @d?|pg|| nt|bobholl: can he read the @H 8 i doubt it and he doesn't know the @D situation|pg|| pc|c7|nt|jcomyn: d and small c and pray|pg|| nt|ntmon: actually case is good after lead from @SA|pg|| nt|jcomyn: going to the wire|pg|| nt|granguru: I will send the hand ..@H|pg|| nt|roswolf: yes but might be censored as not beinf suitable for a family audience|pg|| nt|granguru: :)|pg|| nt|glen: nowadays, likely up on bridgewinners and/or bridgetopics in 1 day|pg|| pc|c2|pg|| nt|jcomyn: cant be thinking anything but a s|pg|| nt|leao: now unblock...|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s4|nt|leao: or not :)|pg|| pc|c9|nt|jcomyn: home now i think|pg|| nt|roswolf: i bet the score stands though - if the claim was accepted even though in error - thats it unless it was impossible to win the number of tricks claimed|pg|| nt|roswolf: which it clearly wasnt|pg|| nt|athene: i'm not so sure - declarer is meant to give a line of play|pg|| nt|granguru: :$|pg|| nt|3for3: Mind you, I am not against science. It just lessens the ability for the spectators to watch and enjoy|pg|| nt|hedyg: you mean they dont hate us???|pg|| pc|c3|pg|| nt|panja: yes....but at this juncture...I guess EW are content with playing middle of the road game|pg|| mc|10|nt|jcomyn: tx all|pg|| pg|| qx|o23|st||md|1SJ72HAKJT43D7CK92,SA6HQ85DQT943CQ53,S9853H97DJ652CAJ8,SKQT4H62DAK8CT764|sv|b|nt|yorkbeach: 170?|pg|| nt|glen: at local club, N says "sorry partner, missed the slam"|pg|| nt|yuval10: he didn't discard a @d from dummy|pg|| nt|ahollan1: Mahaffey lead up to 8 over Texan Aces and we're down to a mere 1|pg|| nt|vugraphpl2: yes, S didn't dicard @d|pg|| nt|yuval10: he went to his hand while ruffing a @d then played trump to squeeze E with @h and K@s|pg|| mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|nt|vugraphpl2: i didn't see and i didn't want to interrupt them|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|glen: not much to this hand, good time for a short break|pg|| pc|dT|nt|vugraphpl2: 6 boards to go and only 1IMP difference...|pg|| nt|yorkbeach: hard to see the defenders can get more than 3@s 1@h 1@d|pg|| nt|glen: it turns out that score correction at the start did matter|pg|| nt|vugraphpl2: we have a lot of emotions :)|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d8|pc|d7|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d5|pc|dK|nt|yuval10: T@d probably a strong lead since E played low|pg|| pc|h3|pg|| nt|vugraphpl2: running scores http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/osfrunda1.html|pg|| pc|c9|nt|yorkbeach: in a Mollo book, East would put his @sQ in with his @c and let declarer see his hand|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cJ|nt|ahollan1: @D10 normal including top of interior other spot leads 2nd/4th|pg|| pc|c4|pg|| nt|glen: @h 9 now|pg|| nt|yorkbeach: then declarer might try a backward finesse in @c|pg|| nt|vugraphpl2: information www.poznan2011.pl|pg|| nt|yorkbeach: avoided that hurdle :)|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h6|pc|hA|nt|glen: no, just the 7|pg|| pc|h5|pg|| nt|ahollan1: backward finesse only happens in the literature|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h8|pc|h9|pc|h2|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hQ|nt|glen: playing it safe|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c23|st||md|1SJ72HAKJT43D7CK92,SA6HQ85DQT943CQ53,S9853H97DJ652CAJ8,SKQT4H62DAK8CT764|sv|b|nt|woozle: nobody was going to mess up that defense|pg|| nt|woozle: I'm not seeing the string of double-digit swings that Harding need to get back into the match|pg|| nt|ntmon: good effort by Monaco on 8|pg|| nt|panja: as for HCP count....try the 4.5-3 for K, 1.5 for Q, 0.75 0.25 for 10....count|pg|| nt|bobholl: what happens ?:)|pg|| nt|bobholl: all is well that ends well but i was getting nervous :)|pg|| nt|roswolf: bd 10 now please|pg|| nt|MolvaM: running scores http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oqfrunda1.html|pg|| nt|ritong: la rumeur dit que mon franglais n'est pas si mauvais, et celui d'olivier est meilleur encore|pg|| nt|hawe45: Le palier de cinq appertient á...|pg|| nt|rcerreto: the match is cooling down with a few part score deals|pg|| mb|1H|nt|jcomyn: yes|pg|| nt|jcomyn: 3nt|pg|| nt|hedyg: we have 1@HX at -2 and -3 and 2@c X is -3|pg|| mb|p|nt|glen: thus it was a close call to pass 2@H, but that got +110|pg|| nt|hedyg: John surely 1@D X already meant that?|pg|| nt|panja: E hand was 20 points on this scale|pg|| nt|roswolf: 8 not played!?|pg|| mb|1S|nt|jcomyn: solid 2nt for m,e|pg|| nt|hedyg: 1@c= 16+|pg|| nt|dburn: mind you, Lev and Pepsi reached the right contract with only one artificial bid, but the number of ways to skin a cat remains greater than one|pg|| nt|3for3: dbl=points, 5-8 or so. not 'negative'|pg|| mb|p|nt|ntmon: some will preemt with N hand|pg|| nt|athene: interesting - no Ghestem for this NS pair|pg|| nt|athene: but most italian pairs do play some sort of ghestem|pg|| nt|hedyg: with the E hand you bid X and pray pd doesnt bid 3@s|pg|| nt|granguru: well most of the time..could have been a GOSH or a 2-suited hand also|pg|| nt|rmb1: 3@S splinter|pg|| nt|panja: rather light double by West, helps them find a very good sac|pg|| nt|leao: they didnt like board 8, i guess|pg|| nt|pelu: 1@h - 1@S - 2@H pass out?|pg|| mb|2H|nt|woozle: Now a notrump partscore, probably with an overtrick or two|pg|| nt|roswolf: now 4@H more normal although may double|pg|| nt|bobholl: everything goes on this vulnarabilty even 4@S and bad @H (their 2@D contains the better @H ?)|pg|| nt|rcerreto: think so|pg|| mb|p|nt|mcarroll: Probably best described as a Joey Silver hand|pg|| nt|MolvaM: another "void hand"|pg|| nt|MolvaM: 2@s was probably nonforcing|pg|| nt|hedyg: 2@s obviously nf|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 2@D isn't multi it's precision|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Not easy for Baldursson this|pg|| nt|hawe45: 19-6 & 17-8 dans les demi-finales serrées|pg|| mb|p|nt|hedyg: sry Murat|pg|| mb|p|nt|MolvaM: :)|pg|| nt|hedyg: Kamras really doesnt want to play in @H|pg|| nt|andyv: more tempted to open N hand 1@c|pg|| nt|kit: nice decision to pass|pg|| nt|kit: opening lead not so nice though|pg|| pc|dT|nt|blum1956: the @h position is of that special sort so nothing may disturb this contract|pg|| nt|athene: 4@S possible with such a good suit|pg|| nt|MolvaM: action again|pg|| nt|3for3: Rodwell's 4@S a coincidence.|pg|| nt|MolvaM: looks like 4 losers in 4@h|pg|| nt|ady: 3NT the game that makes|pg|| nt|MolvaM: but 3nt super|pg|| pc|d2|nt|roswolf: and chosen|pg|| nt|hedyg: they do play Ghestem on their CC|pg|| nt|athene: sometimes partner has good diamonds and weak hearts and you can make 4@S but not 4@H|pg|| nt|hedyg: just maybe not with @cs|pg|| nt|athene: throwing hearts on diamonds|pg|| nt|andyv: the spot cards are awful|pg|| nt|rmb1: Another double-digit swing to Mahaffey on 20, no club lead against 4@H +1 on a less revealing auction|pg|| nt|Walddk2: He also had the oprtion of overcalling 2NT, upgrading @HAQ10, but that is risky at these colours|pg|| nt|ritong: la vulnérabilité incite tom a proposer un sacrifice|pg|| nt|hawe45: Mais Papa á été trop satisfait avec son levée d´atout|pg|| nt|hawe45: Ou?|pg|| nt|ritong: en l'occurrence, il me semble qu'il serait légèrement bénéficiaire|pg|| pc|dK|nt|jcomyn: what now - dicey|pg|| nt|roswolf: hmm this wont go for 1400 but in context a similar result|pg|| nt|granguru: well -16 is not the worst we have seen|pg|| nt|hedyg: any reason his pd could not have 7 good @hs and void in @s?|pg|| nt|jcomyn: 4 baldy aces not your best holding|pg|| nt|jcomyn: and note no other card higher than 7|pg|| pc|d7|pg|| nt|roswolf: no hedy|pg|| nt|hedyg: he does have the good 7 card suit part|pg|| nt|MolvaM: 4h was a bit exaggerated for my taste|pg|| nt|MolvaM: 3@h would be ok|pg|| nt|roswolf: this seems to be -3|pg|| nt|roswolf: safe auctions|pg|| nt|leao: are NS playing canapé?|pg|| nt|roswolf: is this the right board?|pg|| nt|bobholl: yes they do |pg|| nt|bobholl: play canape|pg|| nt|leao: ok, ty|pg|| nt|bigtrain: will the @S10 score?|pg|| pc|sK|nt|roswolf: i am tols canape is dutch flavor of the month|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sA|nt|jfaria: lack of entries in E will give a chance to declarer?|pg|| nt|andyv: good result achieved in the open room|pg|| pc|s3|pg|| pc|s6|nt|roswolf: 2@D = 4card drury i am told|pg|| nt|kit: no need to be aggresive -- just passive diamond lead for me|pg|| pc|s5|nt|ntmon: @S lead in OR, no problem then|pg|| nt|panja: very interesting board 20|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|hedyg: this should be -1|pg|| nt|hedyg: cannot get to dummy and cannot ruff his @C losers|pg|| nt|jcomyn: indeed thiks is a very nsty hand|pg|| nt|MolvaM: lev has a nat @sJ lead|pg|| nt|ady: was predictable they would play 4@H|pg|| nt|ritong: mais michel n'a pas un jeu a surenchérir|pg|| nt|ritong: il n a aucune chance de les faire, la pénalité sera sans doute au moins 300 et il peut arriver de bonnes choses a 4@s|pg|| pc|s7|pg|| nt|hedyg: except if he gets some help..|pg|| nt|bobholl: no they are the only top pair playing canape|pg|| nt|ady: need K@S witth north to establish a discard|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sJ|nt|roswolf: this will drift down|pg|| nt|hedyg: OR in 4@H|pg|| nt|roswolf: 800 is not a scratch|pg|| nt|panja: meckwell didn't at all try to explore a slam....as a result...there was a choice or leads..and East chose the wrong one|pg|| nt|mdgraham: gone for the @cJ lead - mildly surprising|pg|| nt|MolvaM: could south be sqzd in the blacks?|pg|| pc|h5|nt|andyv: I would never let go a @d looking at that dummy...W is very brave|pg|| nt|jfaria: needed a @c shift |pg|| nt|bigtrain: oops|pg|| pc|s8|pg|| nt|panja: choice of leads even|pg|| nt|rcerreto: chances for an overtrick now|pg|| pc|d4|nt|leao: nice guess|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dA|nt|jcomyn: what with a good 6-carder|pg|| nt|MolvaM: this could recover some of the imps lost in the disaster|pg|| pc|h3|pg|| nt|rcerreto: has he any reason not to finesse in @h?|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h8|pc|h7|nt|roswolf: dummy is truly LE MORT|pg|| nt|hedyg: now +1|pg|| nt|hedyg: or 2?|pg|| nt|hedyg: A@c, @C ruff and 3 discards and claim|pg|| nt|hawe45: Mais ilo faut evaluer la chance, que N/S vont á 5 @S, bien sur|pg|| pc|h2|pg|| pc|c2|nt|jcomyn: and suddenly things change drastically|pg|| nt|hedyg: Gino must have thought his @ss were good enough to play even opposite shortness|pg|| nt|bigtrain: with trump that good i definitely agree kit|pg|| nt|Walddk2: nice decision to pass as kit said will turn into "nightmare to pass"|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cJ|nt|jfaria: easy for us to see|pg|| nt|bigtrain: @D for me also|pg|| nt|MolvaM: 4 more hearts and watch south |pg|| pc|c4|pg|| nt|granguru: yesterday we saw Fantoni-Nunes giving away a vul game when they had a slam of their own -17|pg|| pc|h9|nt|granguru: a consolation for normal mortals we are|pg|| pc|h6|nt|hedyg: but that is greedy LOL|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|hedyg: now all @ss|pg|| nt|MolvaM: well not anymore|pg|| pc|hQ|pg|| nt|hedyg: lost 1 trick, no big deal|pg|| nt|rcerreto: no|pg|| nt|rcerreto: he had not|pg|| mc|8|nt|leao: 10 tricks now|pg|| nt|roswolf: on the running scores webpage the score is shown as 27-11 to the dutch|pg|| nt|leao: maybe something happened on board 8|pg|| nt|ralfwil: but llooked silly to have a @s ruff with @hQxx - perhaps|pg|| pg|| qx|o24|st||md|2SQJ4HAK542D854CK3,SAKT963HJ73D73CA4,S87H8DKQT96CQT982,S52HQT96DAJ2CJ765|sv|o|nt|vugraphpl2: so 5 boards to go and difference is still 1 IMP for Bessis|pg|| mb|1S|nt|ahollan1: 1@S=11-18 HCP, 5+@S maybe stronger with good 2-suiter|pg|| mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1N=forcing|pg|| nt|glen: here's a hand where some will bid 2NT over 1@S|pg|| mb|2S|nt|yuval10: very exciting when every overtrick can make a big difference|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|vugraphpl2: everything can change :)|pg|| mb|p|pc|h8|nt|glen: and against meckwell they did bid 2NT|pg|| nt|vugraphpl2: every board is important and every trick :)|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hK|pc|h7|pg|| nt|ahollan1: thru board 23 Mahaffey leads Texan Aces by 8|pg|| nt|vugraphpl2: running scores http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/osfrunda1.html|pg|| nt|vugraphpl2: how exciting is this ending :)|pg|| nt|glen: Mahaffey should rename themselves the Chhattisgarh Kings (a state in India)|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h3|nt|yorkbeach: @h ruff to stope overtrick|pg|| pc|d6|pc|h6|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hJ|nt|Walddk2: I have a feeling that this match will go to extra time. If so, they are going to play 4 additional boards, then perhaps another 4 and so on, until a winner is found|pg|| pc|s7|pc|hT|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c5|mc|8|pg|| qx|c24|st||md|2SQJ4HAK542D854CK3,SAKT963HJ73D73CA4,S87H8DKQT96CQT982,S52HQT96DAJ2CJ765|sv|o|nt|ntmon: surprises me how often 3NT is made through the field|pg|| nt|jcomyn: isnt that amazing|pg|| nt|hedyg: last board of this match now|pg|| nt|roswolf: tried to drop a singleton trump king|pg|| nt|hedyg: thanks to our outstanding operator in Poznan, Tadeusz ! to my excellent fellow commentators Geoffrey and Bill for donating their time and expertise to guide us through these ...|pg|| nt|hedyg: boards.our appreciation to the EBL and the PBF for bringing this event to BBO, especially Slawek Latala who was intrumental in organizing these broadcasts on behalf of BBO|pg|| nt|hedyg: special thanks to our specs for joining and for your kind and helpful comments,we hope you enjoyed the show|pg|| nt|glen: there must be a leaderboard for this italian unusual results|pg|| nt|roswolf: We are now on the last board of the set. Thanks to our operator, Joanna -Great Job! Our appreciation to all the organisers for ensuring that this fine event is brought to BBO ...|pg|| nt|roswolf: vugraph. Thanks too to my very learned fellow commentators Hedy, Murat and Glen for their company and perceptive comments and to our specs whose contributions keep us on our toes.|pg|| nt|glen: *these|pg|| nt|hedyg: and thank you Geoffrey :)|pg|| nt|roswolf: an entertaining match|pg|| nt|roswolf: We are now on the last board of the set. Thanks to our operator, Tadeusz -Great Job! Our appreciation to all the organisers for ensuring that this fine event is brought to BBO ...|pg|| nt|roswolf: vugraph. Thanks too to my very learned fellow commentator Hedy for her company and perceptive comments and to our specs whose contributions keep us on our toes.|pg|| nt|hedyg: thank you too Geoffrey :)|pg|| nt|ritong: he did not pull the third trump, seems|pg|| nt|hedyg: what did he do with the 2@ds in his hand?|pg|| nt|jcomyn: anyone know what the jackpot coup is|pg|| nt|roswolf: ty|pg|| nt|bobholl: they made 2@S+2 on this one|pg|| nt|kit: don't need to lead from honors when little threat of discards|pg|| nt|bobholl: but with 52 cards seen it's always a lot easier :)|pg|| nt|hawe45: E/W...|pg|| nt|ritong: si on en croit le début de séquence, cette chance est nulle|pg|| nt|ritong: l un a dit 3@d et l autre a passé 4@c|pg|| mb|1S|nt|ritong: ruffed both|pg|| mb|p|nt|hedyg: we will be back at 14 30 CET, in 1 hour and 38 minutes|pg|| nt|roswolf: sorry thx to John as well|pg|| nt|granguru: fortunatelly IMPs table doesnt punish you very hard after you already gave away a lot of IMPs in one hand|pg|| nt|jcomyn: and a very difficult thing to achieve|pg|| mb|1N|an| |nt|jcomyn: 20 impps in last 2 boards|pg|| nt|roswolf: scheduled restart in 1hr 35 mins approx|pg|| nt|roswolf: scheduled restart in 40 mins time approx|pg|| nt|panja: 24 HCP with NS...not game is on...|pg|| nt|kit: if I saw all the cards, I'd lead a club :)|pg|| nt|MolvaM: right david. just double dummy line|pg|| nt|ady: 11 tricks in hearts for e/w|pg|| mb|p|nt|glen: some styles like a 3rd seat 1@H here|pg|| nt|ritong: i suspect our operator anticipated a little:)|pg|| nt|hedyg: ah ok, didnt pull 3rd|pg|| nt|jfaria: cant see anyone opening this auction|pg|| mb|2S|nt|ntmon: new leader - i didn't tell that during last few boards|pg|| nt|hedyg: not when KJ are behind :p|pg|| mb|p|nt|mcarroll: yet another Major partscore hand|pg|| mb|p|nt|mdgraham: this is what we were waiting for - a 6-6 fit|pg|| mb|p|nt|hedyg: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswleaderb.html|pg|| nt|athene: west might try an aggressive 3@S now, thinking his @DKJx mesh nicely with his partner's diamond suit|pg|| nt|roswolf: 3nt by east|pg|| nt|hedyg: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswrunda6.html|pg|| nt|roswolf: and here it rests!?|pg|| nt|leao: it shud...|pg|| pc|h8|nt|athene: in fact, of course, they mesh nicely with *north's* diamond suit|pg|| nt|athene: ok, 2@C then 2@S i guess|pg|| nt|roswolf: the pitiful crutch of 4SF |pg|| nt|athene: show an invitational hand but stop at the 2 level|pg|| nt|MolvaM: and not 5 minutes after conceding 1400|pg|| nt|hedyg: we will be back in 37 minutes|pg|| nt|roswolf: i think not|pg|| nt|bigtrain: very aggressive cuebid|pg|| nt|bigtrain: good that meck went low|pg|| nt|ady: save in 6@D for n/s|pg|| nt|MolvaM: right. first non quiet board of the set|pg|| nt|hawe45: Parfait - pour le flanc|pg|| nt|rcerreto: looks -1 on normal play|pg|| pc|h9|nt|roswolf: n/s will press on to game|pg|| nt|roswolf: an easy contract|pg|| nt|leao: and did|pg|| nt|ritong: oui, ça ne va pas le faire pour le déclarant|pg|| pc|hK|nt|hedyg: last board of this match now and of the Swiss teams|pg|| nt|hedyg: thanks to our outstanding operator in Poznan, Tadeusz ! to my excellent fellow commentators Geoffrey, Danny and David for donating their time and expertise to guide us through ...|pg|| nt|hedyg: these boards.our appreciation to the EBL and the PBF for bringing this event to BBO, especially Slawek Latala who was intrumental in organizing these broadcasts on behalf of BBO|pg|| nt|panja: 2@S bid....I don't really like it..|pg|| nt|rmb1: 3@C stopper ask?|pg|| nt|panja: poor suit..poor shape....no need to bid in a live auction|pg|| nt|bobholl: @C are often missed if best fit :)|pg|| nt|roswolf: this brings bridge into disrepute|pg|| nt|roswolf: a constructive auction to a 4-2 fit - save me please|pg|| nt|leao: the @c community shud file a complaint|pg|| pc|h3|pg|| nt|woozle: 4S is cold|pg|| nt|blum1956: 4@s could be made|pg|| nt|woozle: with CA onside, diamond position, spade position and no diamond ruff coming|pg|| nt|ntmon: 2@C may not be wise - who has the @S suit? probably partner, and is weak ...|pg|| nt|jcomyn: big finish for someone|pg|| nt|jcomyn: and it isnt lavazza|pg|| nt|ntmon: .. but this is not the case|pg|| nt|3for3: meck bought a nice hand from rodwell, who could have had nada. K@D and stiff heart very useful|pg|| nt|roswolf: well imo east should rebid 1nt - to avoid this torture|pg|| pc|hA|nt|mcarroll: Yes but has to get @Ds right|pg|| nt|hedyg: can not be more than invite by passed hand|pg|| nt|hedyg: special thanks to our specs for joining and for your kind and helpful comments,we hope you enjoyed the show|pg|| nt|dburn: indeed - this match (though entertaining) doesn't matter - but there are some fierce qualification battles going on in both A and B flights|pg|| nt|hedyg: we will be back tomorrow morning with the Knockouts|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|jcomyn: frying pan into the toaster|pg|| nt|athene: nope, he tries 3 anyway|pg|| nt|hedyg: A@C and @c switch might help|pg|| nt|hedyg: but that wont happen|pg|| pc|c2|nt|roswolf: east will accept!?|pg|| pc|h6|pg|| nt|woozle: McGann tries 4H, down one or two on a spade guess with the club hook failing|pg|| nt|hedyg: but 2@s should be enough|pg|| nt|hedyg: everything is friendly|pg|| nt|granguru: Italoswiss is a kib with very good memory|pg|| nt|hedyg: ty all, bye for now!|pg|| nt|hedyg: help the defense ofc|pg|| pc|h2|nt|woozle: down one...Fiona surely won't try the SK now|pg|| nt|blum1956: -50 against -140 or -170 is a useful 3 imps|pg|| pc|h7|nt|ntmon: X should secure @C lead against 3NT|pg|| nt|hedyg: 1 card out of 3 is on side|pg|| nt|rmb1: This club stop is not going to stand close inspection|pg|| nt|panja: luckily for NS..@HA is with E, and @DK, with West...|pg|| nt|panja: so there are 8 tricks..|pg|| nt|bobholl: jansma - paulissen bid 1@D 1@S 1NT much better but surely not best|pg|| nt|roswolf: 6 + more imps dribble away|pg|| nt|ady: n/s not saving may prove important in this match|pg|| pc|s7|nt|jcomyn: craziest contract of the week|pg|| nt|roswolf: north needs to avoid being endplayed here|pg|| nt|hedyg: i dont think he can get endplayed|pg|| nt|athene: endplay is unlikely because after ruffing a club and drawing trumps, west has no trumps left so a fourth club is fine|pg|| nt|3for3: i believe the higher you are, you get bonus in KO's, re selection of opponents. Hedy posted the rule earlier|pg|| nt|hedyg: 10:00 AM CET|pg|| nt|hedyg: that is for teams 1-8, the rest are seeding as per EBL or WBF seeding points|pg|| pc|hT|pg|| nt|ritong: je tends a penser que l autre salle entamera aussi autre chose que @c|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c5|nt|roswolf: well strong club systems have their downsides too|pg|| nt|leao: why not pass 2@c? play in the 4-4 fit instead of in the (putative) 5-2|pg|| pc|c3|nt|hedyg: even A@H and @H is fine|pg|| pc|cA|pg|| nt|woozle: I fear at this point that 3 isn't enough|pg|| pc|sA|nt|hawe45: Avec le meme declarant, oui|pg|| nt|ritong: et dans ce cas, @s DVx a une bonne tête|pg|| pc|s8|nt|ntmon: prediction? abstain..|pg|| nt|roswolf: indeed as it happens but still care needs to be taken|pg|| pc|s2|nt|jcomyn: hope no children are watching|pg|| nt|granguru: some time ago I said whenever one player of each team tries to play the same suit, one of them is out of his mind. I was referring myself to the play of the cards thou|pg|| pc|s4|pg|| nt|leao: unless 2@c is forcing for them|pg|| pc|sK|pc|d6|nt|bobholl: @D will take care of @C loser so 8 tricks|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sJ|pg|| nt|rcerreto: sorry, I didn't see well|pg|| nt|rcerreto: N can't play @d to cut dummy away|pg|| nt|rcerreto: given the @d position|pg|| mc|8|nt|panja: @CT on trick two was a smart play.. allowing a late entry to W hand with 4th Club..if needed|pg|| nt|rcerreto: my mistake (once again)|pg|| nt|pelu: no but if N play @DQ then decl can Take @DA and @hQ and hope that no @s-loaser when N ruff|pg|| nt|rcerreto: yes, would have given a loosing option|pg|| nt|ralfwil: very close now|pg|| pg|| qx|o25|st||md|3SQ854H95DA982CKQ3,SJHQT643DJ4CT8542,SAT62HA82DQT53CJ6,SK973HKJ7DK76CA97|sv|e|nt|glen: so we get a full KO after 7 overtime sessions|pg|| nt|vugraphpl2: :)|pg|| nt|ahollan1: :)|pg|| nt|yuval10: if N would've played K@d, declarer would've need to duck it then finesse @d to make his contract|pg|| mb|p|mb|1C|nt|ahollan1: 1@C=multi-purpose forcing 1 round|pg|| nt|vugraphpl2: running scores http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/osfrunda1.html|pg|| mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1@D=[usually] 0-6 hcp|pg|| mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1@S could be 3@S balanced|pg|| mb|p|nt|vugraphpl2: information www.poznan2011.pl|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2@H=3-6 hcp|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cA|nt|ahollan1: nice to have a system where after paying entry fee West gets to bid with that hand TWICE|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c2|pg|| nt|glen: @d suit is frozen, defense can't attack it without giving up a trick|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h5|pc|h3|pc|h2|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h9|pc|h4|nt|ahollan1: same for declarer he who plays @D abandons a trick|pg|| nt|glen: declarer will lead the @S jack out and can guess the @Ss for a discard|pg|| pc|hA|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h7|pc|s8|pc|hT|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s4|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c7|pc|cQ|pc|c4|pg|| nt|ahollan1: so much for guessing|pg|| nt|yuval10: def. is endplayed now|pg|| nt|yuval10: a very valuable 6 imps for Bessis|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c25|st||md|3SQ854H95DA982CKQ3,SJHQT643DJ4CT8542,SAT62HA82DQT53CJ6,SK973HKJ7DK76CA97|sv|e|nt|woozle: Routine 4S for EW, hardly the stuff of which swings are made|pg|| nt|jcomyn: yes 1s by e|pg|| nt|andyv: is that where the last 4 cards in dummy are the same denomination?|pg|| nt|andyv: all Qs or Js, etc?|pg|| nt|jcomyn: no close|pg|| nt|roswolf: defence needed to play trumps at some point|pg|| nt|hawe45: Tout normale|pg|| nt|pelu: against 4@C in b22 East found the killing lead (killing for defense) a @C and killeds partners Jxxx|pg|| mb|1D|nt|mdgraham: at this vulnerability you always feel that you've done your job in making them play at the 5-level |pg|| mb|d|nt|jcomyn: still no|pg|| nt|roswolf: well it is not clear why you shouldnt bid this slam|pg|| nt|jcomyn: and Baldursson led SQ, so dont know what happened after that|pg|| nt|bobholl: whow can they reach 7|pg|| mb|r|nt|rmb1: On 21, NS ran from 3NTX ... to 4NT-2 :)|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 2NT = limit raise or better|pg|| nt|kit: this is east grand to bid|pg|| mb|1H|nt|kit: easy|pg|| nt|ady: n/s have 5@C or 3NT|pg|| nt|MolvaM: where there is a void, there is action|pg|| nt|ralfwil: anyone more than me with 2@h from W?|pg|| mb|p|nt|roswolf: should be duck soup even with a 11-13 nt|pg|| mb|p|nt|jcomyn: we should offer a prize for the right answer|pg|| nt|bobholl: because you also miss the @H it is not too good :)|pg|| nt|bobholl: @H 10 :)|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 3@D is artificial game try|pg|| nt|kit: Rodwell can just about bid it on his own|pg|| nt|ritong: 2@s avec du gaz|pg|| nt|hawe45: Mais cela pousse Nord á 4 @H|pg|| nt|ritong: ou pas|pg|| nt|ritong: il n a rien:)|pg|| mb|1S|nt|rmb1: In OR, EW did not bid 6@H on 22 but managed one more trick 4@H+3|pg|| nt|roswolf: west passed in the other room|pg|| nt|bobholl: not playing 11-13 nt|pg|| nt|roswolf: i think this is playable - no system can recognise useful 10's|pg|| nt|bobholl: in west 6@H is luckier no @D lead and it is a vedry good slam|pg|| nt|bobholl: very|pg|| nt|leao: cards are laying VERY well for declarer|pg|| nt|rcerreto: count me on|pg|| mb|2C|nt|bobholl: lack wood|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 5@C is exclusion|pg|| nt|kit: exclusion I guess|pg|| mb|2S|nt|rmb1: 3@S probably shows 5|pg|| mb|p|nt|jcomyn: here's a hint. Think in terms of a slot machine|pg|| nt|ady: as kib pointed out 6@C down on diamond lead|pg|| nt|MolvaM: last chance to stop|pg|| nt|ady: not that easy even without the diamond lead|pg|| mb|p|nt|bobholl: now that';s a good slam :)|pg|| nt|roswolf: I APPROVE OF THIS BIDDING -BID WHAT YOU THINK YOU CAN MAKE:)|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 1 key|pg|| nt|MolvaM: would sementa lightner?|pg|| nt|hawe45: Hm...|pg|| mb|p|nt|leao: yes, as 6NT wud be, but agree on the bidding tip|pg|| pc|c2|nt|rcerreto: I like the Bessis's style to get in frequently but still being able to stop|pg|| pc|c6|nt|mcarroll: given the state of the match will they try for the @C slam?|pg|| nt|Walddk2: 1600 in one room is amazing at this hour. Europe working, most of USA sleepingh|pg|| nt|kit: 2 ruffs in dummy for 7 hearts, 2 spades, 4 diamonds = 13|pg|| nt|ady: sorry meant 5@C down on diamond lead|pg|| pc|cA|nt|andyv: 9 tricks easy now|pg|| nt|bigtrain: i should be sleeping :)|pg|| pc|c3|pg|| nt|mcarroll: which would certainly have faILED|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|rcerreto: many pairs just push the pedal up to a crash|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h3|pc|h2|pg|| nt|panja: y.|pg|| nt|panja: better play might have been to win @CK and cash a trump...|pg|| pc|h7|nt|panja: now @ST9 are finessable..but entries are short..|pg|| pc|h5|nt|ritong: et de plus, son partenaire n a pas eu les moyens de contrer 1@s en soutien|pg|| nt|hawe45: Sur 1 @S, Sud montre, q´il n´a pas la main pour soutenir les @H du Nord. Pour moi: 3 @H sur 3 @D est obligatoire|pg|| nt|Walddk4: I have a feeling that this match will go to extra time. If so, they are going to play 4 additional boards, then perhaps another 4 and so on, until a winner is found|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hA|pg|| nt|panja: so S will make only 10 tricks|pg|| pc|cJ|nt|roswolf: useful trump jack|pg|| pc|c9|nt|Walddk2: This is only good for India, Australia and night owls|pg|| pc|cK|nt|leao: very|pg|| pc|c5|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c4|nt|MolvaM: specs tell me: prev board 6d down 3 on the @CA lead and spade switch |pg|| nt|ady: may have needed to finesse 6@H 2nd round could be a trick short now|pg|| nt|ady: diamond discard not good|pg|| nt|mdgraham: needs to draw the @CK, though - entries are a problem|pg|| nt|MolvaM: the first 4 tricks were fast |pg|| nt|ritong: quoi?|pg|| pc|h8|nt|mcarroll: another 2 imps to Mahaffey|pg|| pc|c7|pg|| nt|pelu: 94-94 before last board NL - Croniere|pg|| nt|rcerreto: fine with us but I think the players aren't hoping for that|pg|| pc|s4|nt|roswolf: draw some trumps and lead a small heart for the top prize|pg|| pc|sJ|nt|ritong: d ou sais tu que nord n a pas quatre @hs?|pg|| nt|hawe45: Ce que j´ai écrit|pg|| pc|sA|nt|leao: oui|pg|| pc|s3|pg|| nt|rmb1: Time running out for Netherlands Juniors still 36 adrift|pg|| nt|bobholl: 6@C is much better as it needs only @H 32|pg|| nt|rcerreto: how's the other open semi going?|pg|| nt|pelu: 2. last board N in a Roland 6!§C and found a losing option : @C AK xx to 10 9 8 xx - remember the grand? also here QJ behind - and finess ??:):)|pg|| nt|rcerreto: oh my|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s7|nt|roswolf: yup|pg|| pc|s8|nt|leao: that´s rite|pg|| pc|h4|pg|| nt|rcerreto: twice in a set?|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|d6|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|nt|leao: claim time|pg|| pc|dK|pg|| nt|roswolf: 9 imps to the trailing team|pg|| nt|pelu: in women|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s5|pc|c8|pc|s6|pg|| pc|hK|pc|d8|pc|h6|pc|sT|pg|| nt|pelu: but same problem|pg|| pc|dT|nt|bobholl: now it is|pg|| pc|d7|nt|roswolf: well done|pg|| pc|d9|pc|cT|pg|| pc|d5|pc|s9|pc|sQ|pc|hQ|pg|| nt|pelu: the great varddealer like to make jokes :)|pg|| nt|pelu: carddealer|pg|| nt|rcerreto: women have often a magic touch, did she make?|pg|| pg|| qx|o26|st||md|4SJ63HKJ5DJT3CAKQ3,SAT97H643D962CJ95,S82HAQT92DAK87C64,SKQ54H87DQ54CT872|sv|b|nt|ahollan1: thru 25 Mahaffey by 4|pg|| nt|glen: the 11 point opening worked well for Bessis there in the other room|pg|| nt|yuval10: wonder how did he made 9 there|pg|| nt|vugraphpl2: K@C was discarded in first trick of @C :(|pg|| mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|yuval10: hmmm ok|pg|| mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2N|an| |mb|p|mb|3C|an| |mb|p|nt|vugraphpl2: sorry @h|pg|| mb|3N|an| |mb|p|nt|vugraphpl2: running scores http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/osfrunda1.html|pg|| mb|4H|nt|vugraphpl2: 3 boards to go and to compare :)|pg|| nt|vugraphpl2: 8 IMP difference|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|glen: 2NT was likely alertable as well|pg|| nt|ahollan1: either way we should have great final matchup tomorrow|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s2|pc|sQ|pc|s3|pg|| nt|yuval10: nice lead by W|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s6|pc|s9|pc|s8|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d3|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h7|pc|hJ|pc|h3|pg|| nt|glen: in theory declarer can sqz E in the minors|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h4|pc|hQ|pc|h8|pg|| pc|h9|pc|s5|pc|hK|pc|h6|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d2|pc|dK|pc|d5|pg|| pc|hA|pc|sK|pc|sJ|pc|d9|pg|| nt|yuval10: it will work in practice at well|pg|| pc|hT|mc|11|pg|| qx|c26|st||md|4SJ63HKJ5DJT3CAKQ3,SAT97H643D962CJ95,S82HAQT92DAK87C64,SKQ54H87DQ54CT872|sv|b|nt|jcomyn: wouldnt want to come in with ther s hand|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 57.5% in that case... but very low chance of that|pg|| mb|p|nt|jfaria: 2 keycards missing = 4@s|pg|| nt|roswolf: another slam|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Probably American bats too|pg|| nt|ady: 3 more hands could hardly be closer|pg|| nt|MolvaM: that could well be a game swing for lavazza|pg|| mb|1C|nt|MolvaM: Im told that In the event of a tie they will play 4 extra boards until a winner has been found|pg|| nt|ady: 4@H close important major suit quuens not fortunate for n/s|pg|| mb|p|nt|bobholl: and seniors :) from europe :)|pg|| nt|hawe45: Si c´est le cas - il retourne á 4 @D, nous sommes fittées, ce qui prouve V x x x á @S|pg|| mb|1H|nt|jfaria: or at least something bellow 6|pg|| nt|ady: surely not pass from Lev|pg|| mb|p|nt|panja: 24 HCP with NS again...will they bid a game?|pg|| nt|leao: strong @c again|pg|| mb|1N|nt|Walddk2: And people who pretend to be working when their bosses arrive|pg|| mb|p|nt|roswolf: might well be bid|pg|| nt|leao: no @d bid yet|pg|| nt|ritong: pourquoi pas|pg|| mb|2D|nt|rmb1: will they bid ... ?|pg|| nt|panja: well..interesting auction|pg|| nt|panja: only goes to support the modified point count I showed earlier..|pg|| mb|p|nt|woozle: we seem to have lost a board. NS fetch up in a dull 1NT, making one or two|pg|| nt|mcarroll: oops|pg|| nt|mcarroll: yes 25 seems to have been skipped|pg|| nt|jcomyn: drop it like a hot spud with no reasl aces|pg|| nt|jfaria: E showing slam intentionswith c@shortness |pg|| nt|hawe45: 3 @H = J´ai une 5eme|pg|| mb|2H|nt|jfaria: @c|pg|| nt|roswolf: :)|pg|| mb|p|nt|jcomyn: shortness even|pg|| mb|4H|nt|rmb1: North/South have been very "sound" for a pair of juniors :)|pg|| nt|ady: nip and tuck here|pg|| nt|ritong: wow|pg|| nt|ritong: ça rigole pas|pg|| mb|p|nt|hawe45: Peu de perdantes - mais peu de levées aussi|pg|| nt|ritong: en effet|pg|| mb|p|nt|jfaria: wonder what 4 nt means|pg|| nt|panja: agree...far less immature..and more cautious that I would have imagines they would be|pg|| nt|panja: than...|pg|| nt|leao: East has a wonderful hand when pard opens 1@c|pg|| nt|leao: and shows long @ds|pg|| nt|roswolf: i am tols the other room is in 7@D|pg|| nt|leao: 7 is a bit farfetched, no? |pg|| nt|roswolf: BUT CAN MAKE ON AN INSPIRED @C view + squeeze|pg|| mb|p|nt|jcomyn: old blackwood i imagine|pg|| nt|andyv: when watching an auction like this I feel the participents are going all the way to the edge of the cliff|pg|| nt|jfaria: maybe, E showed !Q s :)|pg|| nt|jfaria: Q@s|pg|| pc|sK|nt|rcerreto: next door NS left EW play 2@h|pg|| nt|pelu: no|pg|| pc|s3|nt|jfaria: was misguided by 5@s answer, but Cohler rightly "showed" the @sQ|pg|| nt|andyv: I think 4@c was kc, 4@s showed 2 without and 4N asked for K ings|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s8|pg|| nt|ady: have to lose 2 spade tricks and a club need to guess heart queen|pg|| nt|ritong: les espoirs de nathalie sont extremement minces|pg|| nt|rcerreto: in the previous board|pg|| pc|s4|nt|bobholl: 7NT yes but 7@D misses entries|pg|| nt|ritong: même si les @ds sont disposés agréablement pour elle, les adversaires peuvent lui jouer atout|pg|| pc|s6|nt|leao: arent there entry problems for 7?|pg|| pc|s9|nt|andyv: sorry, 4N showed 2 with and 5@s stopped|pg|| nt|bobholl: this will happen very often 7/8 tricks in nT :)|pg|| pc|s2|pg|| pc|d2|nt|roswolf: i expect this to end in 6@D|pg|| pc|dA|nt|rcerreto: that meant a 7 imps double score to Bessis|pg|| pc|d4|nt|jcomyn: give em their 2 aces and claim|pg|| nt|andyv: it may well be that EW weren't on same page|pg|| nt|leao: 5@h asks for trump queen, no?|pg|| nt|bobholl: but they migth bid 7@D too (hope so as a dutchman)|pg|| nt|leao: lol|pg|| nt|leao: they are certainly trying|pg|| nt|leao: mite have bid 6 a long time ago|pg|| nt|leao: 7 went -2|pg|| nt|roswolf: he cant count a sure 13 tricks therefore the small slam is sensible|pg|| pc|d3|pg|| pc|h2|nt|hawe45: Au secours|pg|| pc|h7|nt|leao: this has a chance|pg|| nt|roswolf: he might also be considering the strain ie NT OR@D|pg|| nt|roswolf: NO THE TOP OF THE HOUSE|pg|| nt|roswolf: A DBL IS LIKELY|pg|| nt|leao: on the other table the @c view was taken, but declarer run into a @c ruff |pg|| nt|roswolf: as you would|pg|| pc|hK|nt|panja: and they will get a non-vul game equivalent score for the passes here|pg|| nt|roswolf: this will take a long time to play|pg|| nt|bobholl: @D lead best |pg|| pc|h3|pg|| nt|leao: this requires the @c play and a @s unblock b4 running the @c|pg|| nt|roswolf: if the club view is found there are 12 top tricks and north will be squeezed in the majors|pg|| nt|roswolf: yes difficult but finable i think|pg|| nt|MolvaM: he did|pg|| nt|ady: this could be the winning board for Mahaffey|pg|| nt|ralfwil: E is squeezes for 11 tricks|pg|| nt|pelu: last bord in semi in Women : NL bid a 5@D: need @cKJx in front of AQ10 xx - with 7 @Cs out - make - and in the final|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h4|nt|rmb1: Now set up @S|pg|| pc|h9|nt|roswolf: findable|pg|| pc|h8|pg|| pc|hA|pc|s5|pc|hJ|pc|h6|pg|| nt|rcerreto: pretty hard for their opps|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|hawe45: Disons: 1 @H = normal, mais absolument minimum... ou?|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|ritong: il est possible qu ils aient eu un malentendu a propos de 3@h|pg|| pc|sJ|nt|leao: bravo. step 1 complete|pg|| pc|s7|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|dT|pc|d6|pg|| pc|hT|nt|roswolf: tyhe ace of hearts is the vital entry|pg|| nt|ralfwil: play @dK and @h10|pg|| pc|c2|pc|dJ|pc|c5|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o27|st||md|1S8642HA3DQT752C83,SKT93HQJ64DJ6CAKJ,SAJ5HK9DAK43CT954,SQ7HT8752D98CQ762|sv|o|nt|vugraphpl2: 2 boards to go :)|pg|| nt|vugraphpl2: still 8 IMP difference|pg|| nt|vugraphpl2: and still currently leader is Bessis :)|pg|| mb|p|nt|glen: W beats N to the 1NT opening|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|3H|an| |mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dA|nt|vugraphpl2: running scores http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/osfrunda1.html|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d7|pc|d6|pg|| nt|vugraphpl2: information www.poznan2011.pl|pg|| nt|glen: questions on 3@H, likely 4@Hs and a minimum|pg|| nt|glen: the idea is that while 3@H may be too high, it is a 5-4+ fit, and prevents @S from getting into the auction|pg|| nt|glen: stronger super accepts would make another bid than 2@H or 3@H|pg|| nt|glen: specs note with KT93 of @S, perhaps you would like opps to bid|pg|| nt|glen: other specs blame Larry Cohen for the LAW|pg|| nt|glen: LAW defenders note that 3@D makes|pg|| nt|vugraphpl2: Mr Bompis is still thinking :)|pg|| nt|glen: sorry, I was distracting him with this LAW talk|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c2|pc|c8|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|glen: he would have wanted mentioned the French inventor of the LAW|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h2|pc|hA|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s3|nt|glen: jules verne and Twenty Thousand Laws Under the Sea was the book|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s7|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c27|st||md|1S8642HA3DQT752C83,SKT93HQJ64DJ6CAKJ,SAJ5HK9DAK43CT954,SQ7HT8752D98CQ762|sv|o|nt|jcomyn: give em their 3 aces asnd claim next hand|pg|| nt|andyv: so 4@c was either a splinter, in which case 4N doesn't make sense or 4@c was RKC in which case 4N doesn't make any sense|pg|| nt|panja: I have to leave now, thx Robin, all|pg|| nt|rmb1: 4@S looks worth trying|pg|| nt|panja: bye|pg|| nt|leao: they still won imps on that one|pg|| nt|roswolf: difficult to analyse withot gib|pg|| nt|leao: :)|pg|| nt|ritong: tout le monde ne joue pas comme ça|pg|| nt|ralfwil: an old vienna:)|pg|| mb|p|nt|ritong: certains jouent que déclarer le contrat " forcé" montre un jeu minimum|pg|| nt|ritong: et que passer est donc encourageant|pg|| mb|1C|nt|jfaria: test|pg|| mb|1D|nt|andyv: but at the end, no harm done|pg|| nt|ady: n/s will play 3NT|pg|| mb|d|an| |nt|rmb1: 2NT good raise|pg|| mb|3D|nt|fokal: a safe and sound 3 @d|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|nt|jcomyn: indeed but u are right. a kind of lemming sequence|pg|| mb|p|nt|rmb1: 23 saw NS play 5@H+1 in OR for another 10IMP to Mahaffey|pg|| nt|mdgraham: easy raise to 3NT|pg|| mb|p|nt|fokal: daddy is preempting ;)|pg|| nt|rcerreto: I think that E devaluated his hand and chose not to open 1NT|pg|| pc|dA|nt|roswolf: this is a little unlucky but the vul game bonus tempts everyone|pg|| nt|bobholl: east has a difficult lead|pg|| nt|bigtrain: ugly hand for e/w|pg|| nt|hawe45: 2 SA sur 2 @C - pas d´option?|pg|| nt|ritong: pour ma part, je passe quand je n ai rien à dire, je suppose que c est ça que tu définis comme "logique", hans|pg|| nt|pelu: 3@H in OR|pg|| nt|rcerreto: N liked better an offbeat 1@d than a thin 1NT|pg|| pc|d8|nt|ady: club lead should make 9 tricks easily|pg|| nt|ady: likely to play on hearts and make 10 tricks|pg|| pc|d2|nt|rmb1: EW believed 4@S making :)|pg|| pc|d6|pg|| nt|jfaria: N a bit worried about the small @c doubleton|pg|| pc|dK|nt|jfaria: but nothing he could bid besides 3nt|pg|| pc|d9|nt|woozle: McGann takes a wild swing at game, which should make on the favourable heart lie, even if she runs into a club ruff|pg|| nt|bobholl: if they won't reach 4@H they are "stupid" but wise|pg|| pc|d5|nt|jcomyn: well s has an 18-19 nt so|pg|| pc|dJ|pg|| nt|woozle: did she really duck the diamond?|pg|| nt|bigtrain: nice lead|pg|| nt|kit: might make|pg|| nt|rcerreto: sorry, W devaluated|pg|| nt|fokal: so Bessis will have a 10 imp lead before the last boar|pg|| nt|fokal: d|pg|| pc|c5|nt|bigtrain: not now|pg|| nt|kit: very nice lead|pg|| nt|ady: play east for either queen or jack of hearts|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c8|nt|roswolf: on bd 12 the field bid to 6nt|pg|| pc|cK|pg|| nt|ady: has good intermediates|pg|| pc|h6|nt|roswolf: are we still live|pg|| nt|ady: Lavazza will need a swing on hand 25 to have a chance|pg|| nt|rcerreto: after devaluating, he felt compelled to raise @h to 4|pg|| nt|ralfwil: but 4@h from W? 3 is enough and it´s up to E to decide game or not|pg|| pc|h9|nt|bobholl: guess n will also go 1 down|pg|| pc|hT|nt|jcomyn: that reminds me of a hand in istanbul when my p put me into 4s and i ran into a 5-0 break. He said he was worried about clubs. I had the AKQJ and won none of em|pg|| nt|bobholl: it took a long time so migth put up K :)|pg|| nt|bobholl: specs saying the contrary but i guess he'll put up k anyway :)|pg|| pc|hA|pg|| nt|andyv: so he was right to be worried:)|pg|| nt|rcerreto: which isn't very consequential but... he's playing there while I'm sitting at home|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s3|nt|woozle: she must be getting tired|pg|| nt|blum1956: very strange indeed|pg|| nt|jcomyn: was is his foot they all got ruffed|pg|| nt|rcerreto: so he must be right :)|pg|| mc|8|nt|fokal: have to admit that E double wasn't very textbook|pg|| nt|pelu: 100% agree Ralf 3@H by W and then East can decide|pg|| pg|| qx|o28|st||md|2SJ54HQ743DQT93CQJ,SQ9863HJ95D8CK864,SATHAKT62DA62CT92,SK72H8DKJ754CA753|sv|n|nt|glen: okay a J Vernes|pg|| nt|vugraphpl2: so last board before us :)|pg|| nt|vugraphpl2: 10 IMP difference|pg|| mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: mahaffey v texan aces also last board mahaffey +6|pg|| mb|2N|mb|p|mb|4H|nt|glen: 2NT asks if behind in match, 4@H=yes|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: full ace stronger than minimum opening :)|pg|| nt|vugraphpl2: the leader is still Bessis :)|pg|| nt|vugraphpl2: running scores http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/osfrunda1.html|pg|| nt|ahollan1: all 4 teams have given us a great semi-finals|pg|| nt|glen: lead choice interesting|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i would lead @Dx which is why i do commentary|pg|| nt|glen: the bulletin lead is the @D K|pg|| nt|ahollan1: in college, systems were devised to have me on opening lead|pg|| nt|yuval10: 4@s EW ( no X )|pg|| nt|yuval10: so, making 4@h and Monaco will win, it seem|pg|| nt|ahollan1: meckstroth led @H8 after 1N-2@C//2@H-3@H//4@H |pg|| pc|s7|nt|ahollan1: 2nd/4th leads|pg|| nt|yuval10: then didn't jump with the K@d after declarer played A@d and @d towards dummy, which was the key play|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg|| nt|vugraphpl2: E asks N about sth, but i don't hear...|pg|| nt|glen: thanks to our great operator, Maria!|pg|| nt|vugraphpl2: ty too :)|pg|| nt|vugraphpl2: you are really great :)|pg|| nt|ahollan1: Mahaffey first team into the Finals|pg|| nt|vugraphpl2: running scores http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/osfrunda1.html|pg|| nt|vugraphpl2: information www.poznan2011.pl|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h8|pc|h3|pc|h5|pg|| pc|h6|pc|c3|pc|hQ|pc|h9|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s3|pc|sT|pc|sK|pg|| nt|vugraphpl2: schedule www.poznan2011.pl/schedule |pg|| nt|vugraphpl2: bulletin www.poznan2011.pl/bulletins|pg|| pc|cA|pc|cJ|pc|c4|pc|c2|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|c9|pg|| nt|yuval10: Bessis will join Mahaffey in the finals|pg|| nt|yuval10: very exciting match it will be, 2 great teams |pg|| mc|9|nt|ahollan1: that should be good enough matchup to justify setting wakeup alarm clock|pg|| nt|vugraphpl2: so this is the end :)|pg|| nt|yuval10: see you tomorrow with the finals of this event|pg|| nt|yuval10: thanks all|pg|| nt|vugraphpl2: two teams, which gain a final are Mahaffey and Bessis|pg|| nt|glen: thanks all, was fun :)|pg|| nt|vugraphpl2: i invite youy for tomorrow at 10:30AM|pg|| nt|yuval10: http://www.bridgebase.com/vugraph/schedule.php|pg|| nt|yuval10: 10:30 AM local time, which means around 4:30 NY time probably|pg|| nt|vugraphpl2: schedule in your zone http://www.bridgebase.com/vugraph/schedule.php|pg|| nt|vugraphpl2: ty all :)|pg|| nt|glen: excellent, I can sleep in until 4:30!|pg|| nt|vugraphpl2: especially for comentators :)|pg|| nt|vugraphpl2: I wish you a wonderful evening :)|pg|| nt|yuval10: 3 sessions tomorrow|pg|| nt|yuval10: 10:30 , 14:00, 16:40 local time|pg|| nt|vugraphpl2: remember, that you can read our daily bulletin at www.poznan2011.pl/bulletins|pg|| nt|vugraphpl2: and get some information, what happens in Poznan :)|pg|| nt|vugraphpl2: goodbye and ty again :)|pg|| pg|| qx|c28|st||md|2SJ54HQ743DQT93CQJ,SQ9863HJ95D8CK864,SATHAKT62DA62CT92,SK72H8DKJ754CA753|sv|n|nt|andyv: last board of this set|pg|| nt|jcomyn: holding KJ of s K10 of h and K of D what did he think i had to open 1nt|pg|| nt|roswolf: We are now on the last board of the set. Thanks to our operator, Tadeusz -Great Job! Our appreciation to all the organisers for ensuring that this fine event is brought to BBO ...|pg|| nt|roswolf: vugraph. Thanks too to my very learned fellow commentators Bob and Leao for their company and perceptive comments and to our specs whose contributions keep us on our toes.|pg|| nt|roswolf: and some blood possible here|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Last board of the set now|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Many thanks to Tadeusz, great operating!|pg|| nt|Walddk2: and to our commentators, Kit, Walter and Bob|pg|| nt|ady: last hand of the set|pg|| nt|ritong: la 12 pourrait creuser legerement cet écart|pg|| nt|rcerreto: I guessed that dbl showed @h, was I wrong?|pg|| mb|2S|nt|ady: thx all interesting set|pg|| nt|fokal: oh une donne mouvementée|pg|| nt|fokal: yes . But this 1@h bid with a 4 count , 5 small @h balanced hand no aces, no kings, .....|pg|| mb|d|nt|andyv: North has had a couple of hands where he's been blessed with great spot cards|pg|| nt|jcomyn: gee that match ended very tamely|pg|| nt|jfaria: last board no expected swings, cmon orange jrs lets make a fight of it :) only 1o imps behind against mighty Meckwell|pg|| nt|andyv: a lot of 3N contracts|pg|| nt|fokal: EW devraient faire 4 @h|pg|| nt|fokal: doesn't seem textbook :)|pg|| nt|rcerreto: they're going a little wild|pg|| nt|ralfwil: 2@s looks like @s and a minor|pg|| mb|4S|nt|jfaria: dont go away 2d half promises |pg|| nt|jcomyn: they have done well|pg|| nt|rmb1: This is the last board, thanks to Panja for commentating, thanks to the operator, and to EBL and BBO for organising|pg|| nt|rmb1: and thanks to Dutch kibs for support|pg|| nt|roswolf: 5@SX seems excessive|pg|| nt|bobholl: both aces rigth so 4@H on |pg|| nt|MolvaM: 2 decisive boards will show|pg|| nt|MolvaM: 25 and 26|pg|| nt|fokal: mais après cette enchère NS devraient défendre à 5 @c|pg|| nt|fokal: reste à savoir ce qu'il se passera au palier de 5|pg|| mb|p|nt|fokal: thomas devrait dire 4@c|pg|| nt|rcerreto: also 2@s here isn't exactly in Allavena's usual style|pg|| mb|p|nt|Walddk2: 2nd half in 1 hour and 5 minutes, 12.30 local time|pg|| nt|bobholl: is this forcing for them walter ? :)|pg|| nt|Walddk2: How can 3@H be forcing in any system?|pg|| nt|MolvaM: 4s good?|pg|| nt|ritong: tom va montrer ses @cs d une maniere ou d une autre, et ça va plaire a son partenaire|pg|| nt|fokal: 4 @d bonne enchère, pour faire juger le partenaire au palier de 5|pg|| mb|p|nt|jcomyn: ok folks thans to the kibs and to a great operator|pg|| nt|rmb1: Nice pressure 4@S opening|pg|| nt|rmb1: East send it back? (XX)|pg|| nt|roswolf: e/w have no slam|pg|| nt|bigtrain: no|pg|| nt|pelu: D is ok - but I cant se where W found values for the 4.@H - he know 2 @D losers - and no game if partner cant bid 4@h|pg|| pc|hA|nt|bobholl: guessed so but you never can tell :)|pg|| nt|ady: 1 too high unless defence slips|pg|| nt|rcerreto: maybe he felt behind in the match|pg|| pc|h8|nt|mcarroll: so a pretty emphatic victory for Mahaffey|pg|| nt|jcomyn: have to go and play golf now - tough life|pg|| nt|roswolf: 3nt was the popular contract at the other tables|pg|| nt|ralfwil: a phyrrus victory in 4@s:(|pg|| pc|h7|nt|roswolf: 5@C needs a diamond duck to win|pg|| nt|MolvaM: hard to stop at 4s with only 5-2 fit|pg|| nt|ady: Lavazza had a chance to double 4@H|pg|| nt|MolvaM: 5d -1 if declarer finesses the @d|pg|| nt|MolvaM: meanwhile madala is still in the tank on board 25|pg|| nt|fokal: bon|pg|| nt|fokal: on dirait que les trois petits carreaux ne l'ont pas refroidi|pg|| nt|hawe45: EEntame|pg|| nt|fokal: du point de vue se Sud il sait qu'il ne chute pas beaucoup au palier de 6|pg|| nt|fokal: mais vu que son partenaire ne l'a pas soutenu a @s , il se doute que AR de pique passent|pg|| nt|hawe45: Cute - 5 @C pourrait etre sur table|pg|| nt|hawe45: Chute|pg|| nt|fokal: N can beat this by playing @h any time he can|pg|| pc|h9|pg|| nt|roswolf: all calm here but the dutch will gain a few|pg|| nt|ady: e/w can make 10 tricks in spades not easy 5-2 fit|pg|| nt|pelu: 1 trick in all 4 suit from start|pg|| nt|fokal: oops sry|pg|| nt|ralfwil: for -2 - yes. always one loser in each suit|pg|| nt|fokal: it's to make down 2|pg|| nt|pelu: Ns in 4@H in OR|pg|| pc|hK|nt|jfaria: 2@d GF cb i presume|pg|| nt|roswolf: scheduled re-start for the second half of theis match is in 15 mins|pg|| pc|s2|nt|blum1956: Thx all, spectators and commentators. See you!|pg|| pc|h3|nt|MolvaM: bocchi bid 5@c but he didnt pass yet|pg|| pc|h5|pg|| nt|andyv: probably 2way new minor|pg|| nt|jfaria: with 2 aces missing hard to make more than 11 tricks|pg|| pc|c3|nt|jfaria: tuff lead |pg|| nt|ritong: en meme temps, il a un vague espoir de les faire si ils se trompent d entame|pg|| nt|fokal: mais il n'en sait rien pour la 3e levée; le 4 @d adverse est inquiétant, avec ses deux petits @d|pg|| nt|fokal: il a choisi l'assurance|pg|| nt|hawe45: Pas cher|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cK|pc|c2|pg|| pc|d8|pc|dA|nt|rcerreto: Bessis appears on its way to the final, then|pg|| pc|d4|nt|jfaria: Cohler thinks he must work a bit but cards lie really friendly for him|pg|| nt|ady: club shift needed sure he will|pg|| pc|dT|pg|| nt|andyv: there went his chance for 12 tricks:)|pg|| nt|roswolf: quick claim now|pg|| nt|ritong: pas cadeau, quand meme|pg|| nt|fokal: ok|pg|| nt|fokal: ca polo il savait pas trop|pg|| pc|h6|nt|fokal: il se dit, c'est moins cher que la manche|pg|| nt|fokal: en voyant le jeu de son parteniare d'ailleurs, il se disait surement que 5 @h pouvait être sur table (si les sont 4-2 et pas 3-3)|pg|| nt|fokal: les @s|pg|| nt|fokal: oups sry private|pg|| nt|ralfwil: 4 losers in 4@h, so a double win|pg|| pc|s7|pc|h4|nt|ady: no mistake|pg|| pc|hJ|pg|| nt|andyv: E hand much tougher problem in BAM event|pg|| nt|MolvaM: thanks everyone for watching|pg|| nt|pelu: 4@H can make if EW dont play @S before a @D trick is setup|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d3|pc|c4|nt|jfaria: strange play by Cohler|pg|| nt|bobholl: tya cu later :)|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Thanks all and bye for now|pg|| pc|d2|pg|| nt|MolvaM: thanks our commentators and our operator|pg|| nt|MolvaM: lets go to open room to see who wins|pg|| nt|mdgraham: thanks all|pg|| nt|ady: must be a good score for Mahaffey 4 hearts no chance and plus 100|pg|| nt|ady: thx all|pg|| nt|ady: bye|pg|| pc|d5|nt|rmb1: I fear another nail in the coffin 50+ IMP margin, can follow the end of the match in the other room|pg|| pc|d9|pc|s3|pc|d6|pg|| nt|pelu: that +11 for Manaco - but not what I expt|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c9|nt|andyv: true, doesn't make any sense|pg|| pc|cA|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|c5|mc|9|nt|ralfwil: thanks all and bye. see you in the final|pg|| nt|pelu: so 4 more for Bessis wellcome in final|pg|| nt|rcerreto: bye everybody|pg|| nt|rcerreto: and thanks|pg|| pg||