vg|B EC 2011 Semi finals - teams OPEN,1_2,I,1,14,Texan Aces,0,Mahaffey,0| rs|4HN=,5SEx-4,3DW-2,1NW=,2CNx-3,1NW+1,4SS+1,4SS=,4HW+1,4HW=,1HS=,1HS=,4HN+1,4HS+2,4CN=,3NN-1,5CNx-3,4SE=,3NW=,3NW-2,5DS-1,3SE-2,3HE-1,3HE-1,3NN+1,3NN-1,5CS-1,5HE-1| pn|Banerji,Mahaffey,Shah,Cohler,MECKSTROTH,Anklesaria,Rodwell,Venkatesh|pg|| qx|o1|st||md|3SAQ52HKT96DAJ5CQ6,SK9864HDKQ743C753,S7HAQJ854D9862CK9,SJT3H732DTCAJT842|sv|o|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2N|nt|jbgood: good afternoon|pg|| mb|3H|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dT|nt|jbgood: Having shown a 2-suiter W decided to leave the rest to prd - usually very wise|pg|| pc|dA|nt|Walddk3: Hello Jon and CK|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d2|pg|| pc|h6|pc|d4|nt|psyck: Hello everone|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h3|pc|h9|pc|s4|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h7|pc|hT|pc|s6|pg|| pc|d6|pc|c2|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pg|| nt|jbgood: hi :)|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c1|st||md|3SAQ52HKT96DAJ5CQ6,SK9864HDKQ743C753,S7HAQJ854D9862CK9,SJT3H732DTCAJT842|sv|o|nt|peachy: team names are not right, but I guess we'll get there|pg|| nt|ntmon: welcome to Euro 2011 again|pg|| nt|jcomyn: hi folks|pg|| nt|jcomyn: will they bet let play in 4h questions already|pg|| nt|hajru: Good afternoon everybody, this is the first half of the semi finals in the european team open|pg|| mb|1H|nt|granguru: HI|pg|| mb|p|nt|ntmon: now battle of Polish star and legend players|pg|| nt|ntmon: good afternoon to all|pg|| mb|2N|nt|pelu: hi|pg|| nt|jcomyn: hi all again. Anyone agree with me about Jassem's polish club book - quite brilliant|pg|| nt|runnerup: hi all |pg|| nt|sfranchino: better :)|pg|| mb|d|nt|danilo1: Hi all|pg|| nt|ntmon: hi all|pg|| nt|ralfwil: I prefer pass as S, it´s up to N to decide|pg|| mb|3C|nt|rodal f: A funny strat|pg|| nt|rodal f: Hi Vlad|pg|| nt|mamos: big struggle for the vital 7th trick here|pg|| nt|hajru: Something looks weird here, board 1 usually has N as dealer|pg|| nt|vugraphplb: N should start biding!!!|pg|| nt|vugraphplb: there is some problem witht vugraph lins|pg|| nt|hajru: and I don't think Wrang-Ventin play for Mahaffey|pg|| nt|vugraphplb: i wil start new transmision soon|pg|| nt|barnets: correct names please|pg|| nt|hajru: Welcome back, that fixes the problem of the dealer. |pg|| mb|5C|nt|jcomyn: morning all|pg|| nt|sfranchino: lot of voices is always a problem |pg|| nt|mamos: except perhaps this lead gives it|pg|| mb|d|mb|5D|nt|ralfwil: but dbl must be easy for N now|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Agreed|pg|| mb|d|nt|ntmon: a match between 11th and 12th team from current standings |pg|| nt|Walddk4: N-S from India, East from Spain and West from Sweden|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Please give them a flag each, operator|pg|| nt|kiwibridge: hi Mike and everyone|pg|| mb|5S|nt|runnerup: south wanted to bid @h noe ew in 2!-looks like 3nt must be bidden now|pg|| nt|rodal f: What elso now?|pg|| nt|danilo1: with @CK good played ... surprise @S lead may beat .. but guess @H lead|pg|| nt|rodal f: Hi for u to Markku:)|pg|| nt|danilo1: if @S lead .. declarer must leav twice .. than switch to @H |pg|| nt|runnerup: so this can be beaten,but probably makes|pg|| nt|danilo1: Sementa knows South has trap pass over 1@H ... so may well chosse @S|pg|| nt|mamos: stiil loads of work|pg|| mb|d|nt|paulg: Results for the first match in the round-robin can be seen at http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/orrleaderb.html|pg|| nt|chmitty: Hi all|pg|| nt|peachy: Hi all, welcome back, This is Round 4 in the roundropbins, Open Teams. 15 groups of 8 teams each.|pg|| nt|peachy: 10 boards per match|pg|| nt|jcomyn: this should be fascinating|pg|| nt|rodal f: If E bid standard S have a easy X for the safe income?|pg|| nt|runnerup: defence still tested|pg|| nt|hajru: It looks like 2NT was some heart raise and there is some confusion over X |pg|| mb|p|nt|psyck: Hello everyone|pg|| mb|p|nt|peachy: Current standings in each group after round 3: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/orrleaderb.html|pg|| nt|chmitty: Zaleski currently leading his group|pg|| nt|peachy: Running scores in Round 4 (this round) http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/orrrunda4.html|pg|| nt|jcomyn: hi Krishna|pg|| nt|pelu: fast 10 tricks|pg|| mb|p|nt|bernix: good morning and welcome everybody to round 3 of semifinal A of the European Open|pg|| nt|jcomyn: where are they going or is this real bidding - i cant believe it|pg|| pc|h9|nt|granguru: finally we got to a std 3NT|pg|| nt|pelu: all card well placed = 12 tricks|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 2NT was limit raise or better|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 3@C was an artificial GF|pg|| nt|jcomyn: they find the 5-3 clubs fit and then head for the hills|pg|| pc|s4|nt|ntmon: hi|pg|| nt|barnets: clubs was much better|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|mamos: although after the Spade lead declarer had some chances in practice it seems inevitable to play Hearts and fail -2 looks normal|pg|| nt|mamos: hi Gary|pg|| pc|h2|pg|| pc|dK|nt|danilo1: really 8?|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dT|nt|kiwibridge: this is one of our 2 close matches|pg|| nt|hajru: It looks as if W intended X as any 2 suiter. East then should have a 2nd place to play after 5@c|pg|| pc|dA|pg|| nt|pelu: also 3Nt in OR|pg|| nt|danilo1: really?|pg|| nt|jcomyn: but he has 3 of p's bid suit i still dont understand it|pg|| pc|sA|nt|granguru: funnily if opens the hand (1N) there is a good chance to arrive at 6@C|pg|| nt|paulg: could be worth a couple of imps if it is played by West in the other room|pg|| nt|chmitty: I must say that I never met the pair sitting EW ... not been introduced to Mister West nor Mister East|pg|| nt|ntmon: improved|pg|| nt|dburn: well, South decided to play for 4-4 spades, so the defence won't be tested any more|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s7|nt|psyck: Hi John & Vladimir|pg|| nt|suketbombi: remarakable performance by Keyzad and Venkatesh playing their 5th round without any rest|pg|| nt|pelu: same bidding in OR (1@H here = @s)|pg|| pc|s3|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s8|nt|runnerup: no test at all -so 5 @d only game if all awake but this was too easy beaten|pg|| pc|h4|nt|peachy: This will slide a couple off, but small gain for EW anyway, undoubled|pg|| nt|mamos: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oqfrunda1.html for running scores in the 4 matches -- all to play for in the second halves of these matches|pg|| pc|sJ|pg|| nt|barnets: looks down 4 to me|pg|| pc|cA|nt|bernix: so first blood to monaco|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c3|pc|c9|pg|| nt|kiwibridge: the running scores are great Mike|pg|| nt|jcomyn: just going to say this will be very painful|pg|| pc|h3|nt|mamos: just fantastic aren't they|pg|| nt|jcomyn: kibs like to know who EW|pg|| pc|h6|nt|dburn: if he had ducked a couple of spades, though, that might have been a test|pg|| pc|s9|nt|granguru: but thaa|pg|| nt|henryb: looks like -3 to me for a push the hard way|pg|| nt|peachy: push, actually, I forgot the spade ruff|pg|| nt|suketbombi: also the same result so it is a 27 bds contest from here|pg|| pc|h5|pg|| nt|suketbombi: Hi peter GM|pg|| nt|sfranchino: @h 3-3 claim 10 tricks can we pass at other hands more interesting?|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d6|pc|c2|pc|d5|pg|| nt|hajru: We don't know yet who EW are and perhaps they prefer to keep it that way for now|pg|| pc|d3|nt|granguru: but that's fiction bridge :)|pg|| nt|danilo1: defense would never be tested ... Giorgio sees @DA in his hand ... so he knows no prosperity i third @S ... besides, with @HJK third trick, he sees 5 def. tricks|pg|| pc|d8|nt|barnets: :) yes|pg|| pc|sT|pc|dJ|pg|| nt|peachy: :)|pg|| nt|hajru: At the other table, Mahaffey and Cohler are playing Shah and sunderram|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hT|pc|sK|pc|h8|pg|| nt|kiwibridge: he's done well for -1|pg|| mc|7|nt|jcomyn: a kib quips - cant blame ew for wantin to be anonymous|pg|| nt|barnets: 5@CX would not have been so disastrous|pg|| pg|| qx|o2|st||md|4SJ876HQJ7DQJ52CK6,SAT9H82DAT763CQ52,SK53HK94DK8CJT974,SQ42HAT653D94CA83|sv|n|nt|psyck: JM Shah Plays with Swarnendu & Sridhar with Sunderram...|pg|| nt|psyck: they are all fixed parnerships|pg|| nt|psyck: so, i'm not sure who is playing here :)|pg|| nt|jbgood: Look at the flags in the palyers' profile, this is really an OPEN European:)|pg|| nt|Walddk3: also welcome to Debgiri|pg|| nt|psyck: Indeed Jon :|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|psyck: maybe Texan is experimenting with a new pdship, should be interesting|pg|| mb|3D|nt|psyck: aah, no|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|psyck: all names ok now|pg|| mb|p|nt|dslee: Hi all :)|pg|| pc|cJ|nt|dslee: Texans are resting their ace partnership P Sridhar and Sunder Ram for this round|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c6|nt|psyck: I was distracted, i assume this is not the bidding but just the final contract|pg|| pc|c5|pg|| nt|dslee: The most outstanding pair for Texanace has been Texan himself(Venkatesh) and Keyzad. They have put in the hard work to be where they are today.|pg|| nt|jbgood: a likely all pass|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|dK|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c3|pc|cK|pc|c2|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|psyck: nah, no one will pass W at fav vul :)|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h9|pc|h3|pg|| nt|jbgood: a "young" try by Mahaffey - wil go a couple down for a small loss i gather|pg|| nt|psyck: unless you rewind back to a few decades|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sT|pc|sK|pc|s2|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c8|pc|d5|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dJ|pc|dA|pc|d8|pg|| nt|dslee: The game changed a lot these days- defination of Pre-empts are completely different now, dont know how it has got revolutionized through|pg|| pc|d6|pc|h4|pc|h5|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s4|pg|| nt|jbgood: ok - admit to 1 (or 2) @ds - but 3 is not common...|pg|| pc|dT|pc|c7|pc|h6|pc|s8|pg|| nt|psyck: G Venkatesh (Texan) & Keyzad in 1NT by W here oter room|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|c2|st||md|4SJ876HQJ7DQJ52CK6,SAT9H82DAT763CQ52,SK53HK94DK8CJT974,SQ42HAT653D94CA83|sv|n|nt|granguru: not a good slam |pg|| nt|granguru: another potential slam here|pg|| nt|granguru: a better one thou|pg|| nt|pelu: only need to play @s-siut with no loser|pg|| nt|granguru: still it needs @s 2-2 or stiff honor in E and a good guess|pg|| nt|granguru: hi all|pg|| nt|dburn: oh, it would not have been a very difficult test, it's true|pg|| nt|danilo1: :)|pg|| nt|rodal f: The Aussie bidded best here by NS as well as W pressed at 2@H|pg|| mb|p|nt|ntmon: straghtforward game on 21 |pg|| mb|p|nt|sfranchino: 4@h against 5@c ?|pg|| nt|pelu: the @D-lead against 4@H will give S some work in 4@H - need to take @DA - 2@H and play@SQ - noe East endplayed|pg|| nt|suketbombi: 4@H wud be bid alright|pg|| nt|hajru: We are playing 2 14 board sets. 1 now, the next one starting at 18:00|pg|| mb|1D|nt|pelu: Hi all - as every time there are problems before the first match - players has to find the right table and so on|pg|| nt|chmitty: 3NT or 5@c both cold here|pg|| nt|chmitty: not an easy bid for North|pg|| nt|chmitty: Can our operator disclose the names of the players sitting EW ??|pg|| nt|chmitty: oh yes :)|pg|| nt|chmitty: ty|pg|| nt|peachy: He might go for the practical 3NT if this were MPs, not so sure IMPs|pg|| nt|jcomyn: 5c for ns if they get there|pg|| mb|p|nt|pelu: not with odds - but better that a "Roland-slam"|pg|| nt|bernix: part score battle again. can NS buy it in 3@h ?|pg|| nt|danilo1: Hi all, gutten morgen Bernard|pg|| nt|bernix: hi danilo|pg|| nt|pelu: do u agree in only 3@H?|pg|| mb|1H|nt|paulg: Pleased to see that South has a name, but I think I'll stick with 'South'|pg|| nt|granguru: exchange black Q´s and it would have been a rock iron contract|pg|| mb|p|nt|pelu: we begin with a possible slam|pg|| mb|1N|nt|pelu: Rodwell did open the N hand with 1NT???|pg|| nt|chmitty: Difficult for South to imagine he has so many defensive tricks !|pg|| nt|chmitty: Will North x now ?|pg|| nt|chmitty: Hope for him there was not too much of an hesitation behind the screen|pg|| nt|peachy: I think S might have doubled. Vul versus notvul, N had great expectations of making, the colors tell he was not preempting|pg|| nt|chmitty: I agree 100% Raija|pg|| nt|ralfwil: I don´t understand leads from Hxx|pg|| nt|jcomyn: but dont think it was roland as another kib suggests|pg|| mb|p|nt|peachy: Hi John|pg|| nt|runnerup: 6 clubs best here 6nt /e also|pg|| nt|sfranchino: 3@h i think is not a bda bid makes problem only for the pard|pg|| nt|pelu: in OR 1@D opening and 4@H passed out|pg|| nt|sfranchino: or 1@h or 4@h|pg|| mb|p|nt|granguru: I would have done it if @CK|pg|| nt|paulg: i think many in the field will bid this one|pg|| nt|chmitty: he must protect the score of his pair|pg|| nt|bigtrain: pass outs are becoming rare birds|pg|| mb|p|pc|cT|nt|granguru: NICE TO see u again Raija |pg|| nt|granguru: 11 tricks|pg|| nt|peachy: Convention cards are not available so unfprtunately we cannot explain bidding|pg|| nt|granguru: at NT or any Moysean|pg|| nt|chmitty: Next door bidding started 2@s (E) 4@s ... NOrth thinking|pg|| nt|danilo1: nice 6@C ... if by mistake in 6@S - or even 6NT (E) ... all will make|pg|| nt|bigtrain: meckwell lead rusinow from 4+card suits vs NT|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cK|nt|pelu: and I would open 1@D 100% (=4+@d)|pg|| nt|paulg: North has distribution and they have a lot of controls|pg|| nt|granguru: 4@C cue X @Cs|pg|| nt|granguru: N could have xx to show second round ctrl|pg|| nt|pelu: when N open 1Nt then Meckstroth has no slam ambitions|pg|| nt|pelu: RD = 1. round control|pg|| nt|granguru: but then it is more complicate to show @d ctrls|pg|| nt|granguru: RD is second if 4@C was first|pg|| nt|jcomyn: hmmm and a 6-3 c fit not too imp;ressive|pg|| nt|psyck: 4@c instead of 2nd x would have worked better|pg|| pc|c2|pg|| nt|barnets: close contract|pg|| nt|barnets: another club best|pg|| pc|c6|nt|pelu: @H-lead - 2x@s and @C finess|pg|| nt|psyck: same bidding in other room though|pg|| nt|mamos: North has a good source of tricks so goes on over 2NT|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|pelu: ok that makes life easyer for dsecl|pg|| nt|jcomyn: although 4-2 foirtunate lie in h|pg|| nt|ntmon: it's standard in Poland overcalls are limited, so strong 1-suited hand should X first|pg|| nt|jcomyn: of course but no 2nd x for me|pg|| nt|ntmon: but after preemptive raise, problems arise|pg|| nt|psyck: if 1345, i'd have Xed 2nd time too, thought 4@c was clearer this hand|pg|| nt|kiwibridge: yes and deters the @S lead|pg|| nt|mamos: will make his adventurous game |pg|| pc|c4|nt|granguru: If I would be forced to guess 1@C strong 1@S=4 ctrls 2N nat 19-21 3@D @C ctrl no @D ctrl|pg|| nt|bernix: phantom sac|pg|| pc|c8|pg|| nt|ntmon: 4 obvious tricks for defence|pg|| pc|d3|nt|paulg: It is much easier for us, but can South have less than this to make a slam try with no heart control?|pg|| nt|danilo1: ideal def. is - first @H for A, than @DK and third @D ... guess not easy for Adam now ... since North cann well be single @D |pg|| nt|bernix: but it doesn't matter if he cashes a 2nd @d before switching to hearts|pg|| nt|kiwibridge: would probably play better by N but good chances|pg|| pc|d8|nt|ntmon: i'm inclined to 4@C too but no strong opinion|pg|| pc|d4|nt|peachy: lots of work in 6NT, not impossible I think, but rather aggressive|pg|| nt|granguru: a passive lead is a must here|pg|| nt|peachy: I'm thinking E will lead club, that would be my choice|pg|| nt|granguru: it seems 3@d was nat as N went on to 6@d|pg|| nt|peachy: but I am not in Hurd's class of player so we'll see|pg|| nt|granguru: most passive is @D|pg|| nt|granguru: the @D10 is a critical card (not here thou) so W has 4 critical suits|pg|| nt|psyck: sry folks, have to switch to another room, c ya|pg|| pc|dQ|pg|| nt|dburn: 6NT by East would not be a mistake - that contract is 100%, while the defenders might meanly ruff something against 6@c|pg|| nt|danilo1: 6NT is surely best .. by mistake I meant 6@S :)|pg|| nt|runnerup: so 2.best contract reached|pg|| nt|jcomyn: in trouble maybe|pg|| nt|barnets: can guess daimonds|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|ntmon: see u later :)|pg|| nt|jcomyn: slan|pg|| nt|sfranchino: barrage at 3@h in second position when pard dont bid makes problems only to him|pg|| pc|h2|nt|granguru: N S expects that @S dont behave...|pg|| nt|bigtrain: more likely to make 2 then go down i think|pg|| pc|h4|nt|pelu: do u know players where cuebid are 1. control - to day 1. or 2.? back in the 50'es in US they only cuebid Aces - and lost to Italy every time :)|pg|| nt|peachy: that would have been my last choice of leads, Jxx nearly never right|pg|| nt|granguru: I am wrong E leads|pg|| nt|pelu: wrong|pg|| pc|hA|pg|| nt|granguru: E has a clear @d lead|pg|| nt|chmitty: Versace will not escape 800 |pg|| nt|danilo1: difficult (almost impossible for Giorgio to correct to 6NT ... he does not see 7-cards @C in West ... and after @D cue (probably single) - cannot risk|pg|| nt|barnets: dec can guess @D|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d2|nt|danilo1: excellent defense ... now even -2 possible |pg|| nt|bernix: caiti must use his only entry to dummy to finesse in @cs rather than @ss|pg|| nt|danilo1: did not matter for -1, I agree Bernard|pg|| nt|Walddk1: Operator, West is Caiti|pg|| pc|dA|pc|dK|pg|| nt|kiwibridge: better lead a @C earlier I think|pg|| pc|d7|nt|peachy: perhaps there is something in the bidding that we are not privvy to, which induced the spade lead|pg|| nt|peachy: To watch multiple tables, http://www.bridgebase.com/client/vugraph.php. Open a new window for each additional table.|pg|| nt|ntmon: Lev carefully watching spots|pg|| nt|pelu: @D3 could have worked better|pg|| nt|mamos: is squeezing his own hand now|pg|| nt|bigtrain: a creative preemptive in the OR|pg|| nt|hajru: making now. For a small gain to EW|pg|| nt|barnets: 5 imps|pg|| nt|khaled_m: Aces win|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 5 imp gain|pg|| pc|cJ|nt|granguru: :) true|pg|| nt|granguru: second choice was @CJ|pg|| nt|granguru: immo|pg|| pc|h3|nt|granguru: MADE|pg|| nt|pelu: or just @cK|pg|| pc|dJ|pg|| pc|h7|nt|chmitty: 5@c final contract open room|pg|| nt|peachy: or browser screen, whatever you call it :)|pg|| pc|h8|nt|chmitty: Here it's a "fenêtre" lol|pg|| nt|buddyshah: chance for 800 gone |pg|| pc|hK|pc|h5|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cA|pc|s6|nt|mamos: having severed communications he has to cash all his Diamonds|pg|| pc|c5|pg|| nt|kiwibridge: yes lucky lie makes it all ok|pg|| nt|mamos: going one off|pg|| pc|s2|nt|danilo1: :)|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sA|nt|mcsd: Hello all|pg|| nt|granguru: my grandma teached me to lead pasive vs 6NT some 45 years ago|pg|| pc|s3|pg|| pc|dT|pc|h9|pc|h6|pc|d5|pg|| pc|d6|nt|mamos: not now :)|pg|| pc|s5|nt|granguru: it is stil valid today|pg|| pc|s4|nt|granguru: still*|pg|| pc|s8|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sK|pc|sQ|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|c9|nt|kiwibridge: EW both left with 2 winners :)|pg|| pc|hT|nt|granguru: instead of winning 13 Kamil is going to lose 13...a 26 IMPs swing|pg|| nt|kiwibridge: wd Texas|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|sT|pg|| pg|| qx|o3|st||md|1SKJ4HT875D52CA764,ST3HK4DJT76CQJT83,SA876HQJ3D984CK52,SQ952HA962DAKQ3C9|sv|e|nt|psyck: yes, 3 did look surprisingly high|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|d|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|psyck: 1@h by S would be 4+cards ignoring the x, not sure why 2@c instead|pg|| pc|dA|nt|dslee: Swarnendu tried to block the space - but this landed them in trouble|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d6|pc|d8|pg|| pc|c9|nt|jbgood: EW was in a relatively good spot - but went to spades and that was a party for the defenders on 1|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c3|pc|c2|pg|| nt|psyck: yes, 5@d was undisciplined|pg|| nt|dslee: Would had given a kick start to Texans in that case Ck|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d5|pc|d7|pc|d9|pg|| nt|psyck: it does not look like they can make nore than 3@c & 2@s here, so 500 out of thin air as EW make nothing|pg|| pc|d3|pc|c6|pc|dT|pc|d4|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|h3|pc|h6|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c5|nt|dslee: this is surely bad board for Texans |pg|| pc|h2|pc|cA|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h4|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h8|pc|c8|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cK|pc|s2|pc|c7|pg|| nt|psyck: if S had just bid 1@h, EW may be playing in a @d partial maybe|pg|| nt|Walddk3: Welcome to Mike Graham|pg|| nt|mdgraham: good afternoon all|pg|| nt|psyck: GA Mike|pg|| nt|dslee: Welcome Mike - from Bangalore, Sao Paulo and Norway :)|pg|| nt|mdgraham: swings of 5 and 9 here - two flat boards in the other match |pg|| pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s4|pc|s3|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s9|pc|sK|pc|sT|pg|| pc|hT|pc|cT|pc|s7|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|s8|pc|dK|pc|sJ|pg|| pg|| qx|c3|st||md|1SKJ4HT875D52CA764,ST3HK4DJT76CQJT83,SA876HQJ3D984CK52,SQ952HA962DAKQ3C9|sv|e|nt|rcerreto: here we are again|pg|| nt|brolucius: Jeffrey Allerton and Frances Hinden (who is playing at the other table) are a couple, and have won the prestigious Gold Cup (Britain's top knock-out) together.|pg|| nt|brolucius: So far as I know, Hinden has never played women's bridge. She is a top executive for an oil company.|pg|| nt|ralfwil: what do we know about their systems?|pg|| nt|brolucius: E/W were playing straightforward stuff against Russia. I assume that the French play the standard French system, near enough. It will be good kibitzing.|pg|| nt|granguru: but it is a good idea that the very first control is A (or KQ)|pg|| nt|pelu: no|pg|| nt|granguru: not vul sorry only 22!|pg|| nt|peachy: aah, by the end of tha match, maybe I learn some French by osmosis :)|pg|| nt|chmitty: and me some English|pg|| nt|jcomyn: and the usual 4-1 break|pg|| nt|dburn: indeed - you'd need a relay method to reach 6NT by East with certainty|pg|| nt|pelu: in OR W in 2@SX|pg|| mb|p|nt|chmitty: :)|pg|| nt|jcomyn: at least the sa is right|pg|| nt|sfranchino: 3@h revelead very bad bid|pg|| mb|p|nt|chmitty: 2@d both majors ?|pg|| nt|ntmon: 4 IMP for Krajewski - 5@D on 1 doubled|pg|| nt|buddyshah: And play from dummy Declarer had play to keeop it to 500|pg|| nt|kiwibridge: looks like NS came here to bid|pg|| mb|1D|nt|chmitty: seems so|pg|| nt|peachy: Long time ago, we used to call those bids Polish two suiters, nowadays there are several variations and names for them|pg|| nt|peachy: Hungarian kib tells it is 5@h-4@s, or 4414 or 4405, 11-15HCP|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 2+@D 0-15 :)|pg|| nt|jcomyn: that might put paid to a d contract by ew|pg|| mb|d|nt|granguru: would like to hear your arguments...I am open minded :)|pg|| nt|bernix: this looks like a run-of-the-mill 4@s to me|pg|| mb|r|nt|chmitty: So Lauria will probably reject the option of double ... which could be effective in front of a @s lenght|pg|| nt|bigtrain: XX = 4+@H|pg|| mb|1N|nt|granguru: kibz might enjoy an expert view on the matter|pg|| nt|paulg: I don't think cue bidding first and second round controls equally makes a huge difference to bidding slams, a lot of it still comes down to judgement|pg|| nt|mamos: wow|pg|| nt|kiwibridge: W probably expects E to have a yarborough|pg|| mb|p|nt|paulg: i think the italians beat the americans so often because they had practised partnerships and better bidding methods|pg|| nt|granguru: being an expensive deparment players try to reduce judgement and increase accuracy|pg|| nt|granguru: good advice...on all contracts under 6NT|pg|| nt|peachy: There are no convention cards available for us (or anyone) so appreciate kib help in interpreting bids|pg|| nt|jcomyn: thought they play transfers over 1c|pg|| nt|dburn: may not be so easy to stop these in a partscore, after all|pg|| nt|danilo1: if to play 4@S ... West should declare|pg|| nt|dburn: but they managed it - this is a partscore|pg|| nt|runnerup: true you cant guess in teams -solid 6 @c ok -here only 3 spades makes |pg|| nt|dburn: or maybe Duboin didn't actually pass|pg|| nt|jcomyn: must surely pass|pg|| mb|p|nt|bernix: 3@c sounds like maximum with 5-card suit doesnt it|pg|| nt|danilo1: thk NS play 1NT 15-17 (or at least did before) ... 1@C is choice I believe (agree, 6 controls, no soft values, hand better for suit contracts)|pg|| nt|danilo1: 4@S by West may make ... no chance if by East|pg|| nt|suketbombi: funy part both play 2@S|pg|| nt|suketbombi: funny|pg|| nt|pelu: India 2@S at both tables - :) |pg|| nt|suketbombi: this is a big loss for texans|pg|| mb|p|nt|granguru: agree paul|pg|| nt|paulg: this hand has another debatable point .. how do you break transfers?|pg|| nt|pelu: too difficult to start a cue bid if only A, a cue is an invitation for slam and often u will miss that - and bidding economy also tell u to start with the lovers cue bid|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|brolucius: Since there were so many small boards in the first half, I was hoping that all the spectacular stuff had been saved for the second half. False hopes...|pg|| nt|granguru: from 6NT on the strategy changes|pg|| nt|ntmon: 1NT will be played on most tables|pg|| nt|barnets: good pass|pg|| nt|bigtrain: every level increases the undertricks by 1|pg|| nt|bigtrain: so very good pass|pg|| nt|jcomyn: and even one is no pushover|pg|| nt|barnets: 2@CX in open n/s|pg|| nt|bigtrain: this is -1 without breaking a sweat for the defense|pg|| pc|hA|nt|Walddk5: Welcome to Murat|pg|| nt|MolvaM: hello everyone :)|pg|| nt|pelu: 5 toptricks for defense, but not easy to take them|pg|| nt|paulg: i dislike showing a weak doubleton and telling them what to lead|pg|| nt|granguru: at top level players almost always lead the right card|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h4|pg|| nt|granguru: so it is better to bid accurately|pg|| nt|Walddk5: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswrunda6.html|pg|| nt|dburn: Sementa might only raise to three, but he's more likely to bid four|pg|| nt|dburn: and he did, before I could finish typing that he would|pg|| nt|kiwibridge: 8 tricks|pg|| pc|c9|nt|brolucius: East has found a strong lead.|pg|| nt|dburn: still, with this lead...|pg|| nt|danilo1: Well, now we have 4@S by West :)|pg|| pc|c4|nt|pelu: now 7 tricks for Tokay|pg|| nt|pelu: prob 3@C dont show about @Cs but only maxz and 3 card support|pg|| nt|paulg: but i approve of breaking the transfer with only 3-card support, when you are so suitable|pg|| nt|granguru: once hamman erred a gran slam lead...20 years the hand was appearing in the news|pg|| nt|peachy: running scores Round 3 (this round) http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/orrrunda3.html|pg|| nt|sfranchino: i think east had cards for double 2@s he knows that pard had weak hand with @s and opps has not any save|pg|| pc|cJ|nt|granguru: And he used Judgement..with 2 aces he led the shortest one..(wrong)|pg|| pc|cK|pg|| nt|ntmon: i think they play crystallic clear Polish club, book version (2005 edition)|pg|| nt|jcomyn: must be as JASSEMS polish is transfer inh his book|pg|| nt|rodal f: Well. Helped a bit, but agree u|pg|| nt|runnerup: so vulnerable try -no trial just bid it -if not made -perhaps even anyway|pg|| nt|dburn: ...Duboin still can't make it, I don't think, but if North puts up the ace...|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|chmitty: Great decision by Lauria : 5@c would be at least 2 off when 4@h is down|pg|| nt|peachy: I did find a fairly recent card for EW http://www.archiviobridge.it/lauria-versace.pdf|pg|| pc|h2|nt|MolvaM: running a long suit usually creates problems for the defence|pg|| nt|peachy: NS basic system is Strong Club|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hK|pg|| nt|dburn: he can't put the seven on this, because South might have @c98 doubleton, but he may still be OK|pg|| nt|jcomyn: and they wont like the result from open room|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|brolucius: Now a club ruff will beat it.|pg|| nt|ralfwil: -1 with best defence. a @c switch now|pg|| nt|rcerreto: @h9 ?|pg|| nt|rcerreto: looks to ask for @d|pg|| nt|brolucius: Failing that, a trump misguess by declarer.|pg|| nt|ralfwil: and in that case possibilities to -2|pg|| nt|rcerreto: E isn't willing to ask for a @c switch, not knowing what partner has in @c I think|pg|| nt|brolucius: South was declarer, after a transfer response to 1@C, at the other table.|pg|| nt|brolucius: We thought, in the match against Russia, that they seemed to be playing reverse suit-preference. So, maybe she has asked for a club.|pg|| nt|ralfwil: But if there is any possibility to defeat, it must be a @c ruff by E. Declarer can have @sKQJ|pg|| nt|pelu: in CR EW missed the defense against 4@S - played by S: @H to K, @D to A Now @CK to A, @S to 8 and Q, @CJ to Q - but not @C again|pg|| pc|c2|nt|pelu: now 9|pg|| nt|mamos: this looked very much a part-score board EW have some discards to find|pg|| nt|barnets: the def now have set up 7 tricks|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|ralfwil: a @d ruff for -1|pg|| nt|jaapfr: for declarer|pg|| nt|barnets: bu noth needs 2 entries|pg|| nt|bigtrain: yes the @H unblock is the culpret|pg|| nt|hajru: Looks like they got the order of the tricks wrong|pg|| pc|c6|pg|| nt|barnets: yes north had to play a spade|pg|| nt|barnets: when in with the @C|pg|| pc|cT|nt|pelu: well played by W - he set up a trap - and N fall in|pg|| nt|MolvaM: and looking happily for the 10th|pg|| nt|danilo1: 6@S is not good contract ... correct pass by Balicki ... |pg|| pc|c5|nt|ntmon: transfers don't fit much into the system, 1@D needs to be negative|pg|| nt|ralfwil: and E must see that it´s needed with @ha and knowing that N has @cK|pg|| nt|barnets: very tough play|pg|| pc|dK|pc|c7|pg|| nt|danilo1: makin if he starts with @H first ... not impossible after @C lead |pg|| nt|dburn: he can play hearts now|pg|| nt|jcomyn: d6|pg|| pc|d6|nt|granguru: looks that there is no way to win...no entry to dummy|pg|| nt|granguru: @DK ?|pg|| nt|peachy: There are 15 groups of 8 teams each, the top three (I think) will advance to the Swiss, from where top teams advance to KO etc|pg|| nt|peachy: This isnt quite making, I think|pg|| nt|kiwibridge: oh for that 7th @C which why I never do it with 6|pg|| pc|d4|nt|granguru: what about small @d ?|pg|| pc|dA|nt|ntmon: anyway, 4@H good contract, will make|pg|| pc|d2|pg|| nt|peachy: from each group|pg|| nt|barnets: a low heart also would have worked by north|pg|| pc|d3|nt|brolucius: So the chance is missed.|pg|| nt|kiwibridge: board 16 was a bid 11 to close this match right up|pg|| pc|d5|nt|brolucius: Ralf's analysis is good. It does seem that a club switch was indicated.|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d8|pg|| pc|dT|nt|danilo1: now not anymore ... now need @H 3-3 ... |pg|| pc|d9|nt|granguru: at 6NT the reason is not to give the 12th trick ...normally declarer coudnt find a suit to play...so usually no long suit..if 12 tricks there, there is nothing to lose...but if just 11 you must be carefull not to give 1 trick on the lead.|pg|| nt|dburn: he's still all right|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s4|pg|| pc|d7|nt|granguru: ans @s finesse--not @C|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s5|nt|bigtrain: not a huge deal either way... 9 vs 12 imps|pg|| nt|hajru: but still another 9 for NS|pg|| pc|h8|pg|| nt|danilo1: no ... must give @D trick (or @C) ... and North will play trump than|pg|| nt|runnerup: for 1 down |pg|| nt|dburn: but now he isn't - he needed to throw a heart on that, then endplay North|pg|| mc|8|nt|rodal f: And done. -1|pg|| pg|| qx|o4|st||md|2SAK52HKQDKQJ97CK8,S73HA732DAT63CA92,SQJT4HT9654D5CT73,S986HJ8D842CQJ654|sv|b|nt|psyck: To watch multiple tables: http://www.bridgebase.com/client/client.php|pg|| nt|psyck: Running Scores: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/osfrunda1.html|pg|| nt|mdgraham: that could be a usewful swing for the Mahaffey team|pg|| nt|psyck: Main tourney site : http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg|| mb|p|nt|dslee: Part scores only , not much of chances of experimentation|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|nt|dslee: After the last deal, swarnendu would be thinking hard on this|pg|| mb|4C|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|nt|psyck: this should end it|pg|| nt|jbgood: N will not accept any slam invite:)|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|dslee: should make with the card layout|pg|| pc|s7|nt|psyck: luckily E is entryless|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s6|nt|dslee: @H J is also friendly|pg|| pc|s2|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d2|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sT|pc|s8|pc|s5|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h8|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|sK|pc|h3|pc|s4|pc|s9|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d3|pc|c3|pc|d4|pg|| nt|mdgraham: this could be a good result - if West opens at the other table, it may not be so easy to get to 4@s|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d6|pc|c7|pc|d8|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dT|pc|sJ|pc|c4|pg|| pc|hT|pc|c5|mc|11|pg|| qx|c4|st||md|2SAK52HKQDKQJ97CK8,S73HA732DAT63CA92,SQJT4HT9654D5CT73,S986HJ8D842CQJ654|sv|b|nt|paulg: it was very tricky and I'm not sure he ever saw a line to make it. As I was struggling seeing all the hands, I'm not surprised really.|pg|| nt|granguru: garozzo had another saying..when you have a singleton, lead it...|pg|| nt|granguru: obviously at suit contracts|pg|| nt|peachy: It is one of his famous "Rules"|pg|| nt|granguru: in general, it made life easier for the defense...if you didnt lead a singleton..you didnt have it...|pg|| nt|peachy: Another one of Garozzo's: "Must have a very good reason for not leading trump"|pg|| nt|danilo1: he knows that pd must have very good @S + need @HK + more than just A in @D ... if all this, Adam would not bid 4@S over 4@H|pg|| nt|danilo1: but if he played @H before cashing second trump ... than meight do|pg|| nt|runnerup: 7 @s here|pg|| nt|runnerup: bidding test|pg|| nt|suketbombi: Grand slam but will settle for 6 I guess|pg|| nt|mamos: 3@c looks a possible contract with Ns competing in Spades|pg|| nt|mamos: many different actions possible on these competitive part-score hands where system makes so much difference|pg|| nt|kiwibridge: should have been 2 passes by now wonder who's thinking|pg|| nt|mamos: are we ok op?|pg|| mb|1D|mb|p|nt|jcomyn: ah a slam and a minor one at that|pg|| mb|p|nt|rcerreto: openings are getting lighter and lighter, these days|pg|| nt|paulg: his line did have a lot of play|pg|| nt|jcomyn: ho hi in s|pg|| nt|barnets: 4@S by south may work nt north|pg|| nt|jcomyn: how|pg|| nt|hajru: club lead|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 2NT is 18-20 for meck here|pg|| mb|d|nt|granguru: well if @H behave he could have made it..but that would have mean @S were also 1-1 and the line should have been different|pg|| nt|jcomyn: but a good sacrifice too|pg|| nt|jcomyn: and 21?|pg|| mb|p|nt|rodal f: At Last tempo would have been better by @H ruffs. Hard to se for them|pg|| nt|danilo1: 2@H? .. guess best bid|pg|| nt|dburn: key is South's diamond holding, but if South can get a diamond bid in before North bids Blackwood|pg|| nt|dburn: then North may be able to find what he needs to know|pg|| nt|danilo1: do not like Splinter with A .. as well as do not like 4@S with this distribution|pg|| nt|rodal f: Quite an interesting one|pg|| nt|dburn: so 4@c-4@d-4NT-5@h-6@d (asking for third round control)|pg|| nt|danilo1: besides on 2@H may hear @D support and than key card (for @D!!!) |pg|| nt|dburn: despite that being a splinter with the stiff ace, it seems the best way for North to find out what he needs to find out|pg|| nt|rodal f: May we see 4@C?|pg|| nt|dburn: he can't really bid 2@h - he would have the Devil's own job getting back to spades if South were to raise hearts|pg|| nt|danilo1: i would bid 2@H - cannot cost since I can allways corect @H contract to @S|pg|| nt|runnerup: dont see many choises|pg|| nt|bigtrain: so X foloowed by Q or jump in NT coming|pg|| mb|1H|nt|pelu: top-players dont like the @d-suit :)|pg|| nt|chmitty: 2@d must be relay for clarification, and 3@c shows no major probably|pg|| nt|chmitty: Will south bid 3NT with 3 small spades ?|pg|| nt|dburn: how is partner to know, after 1@d-1@s-2@h-3@h-3@s that you have four spades and two hearts, rather than five diamonds, four hearts and a spade cue bid?|pg|| nt|runnerup: and here it came|pg|| nt|danilo1: if pd has 3-card @D ... @DQ may bi vital card ... and therefore, I would like to hear @D fit|pg|| nt|suketbombi: 1@D opening would have exited East i am sure but 6nt is likely to be bid here|pg|| nt|mamos: Do you double 1@d opening with the North hand Gary?|pg|| mb|p|nt|peachy: 2C prob Precision style, 5-6 clubs with possible 4-card major|pg|| nt|kiwibridge: no not with 4@D|pg|| nt|vugraphplb: we had some coffe break|pg|| mb|2N|nt|rcerreto: tough lead|pg|| nt|rcerreto: nothing appeals, @d looks normal|pg|| nt|MolvaM: I know about 3700 people who would bid 2nt with east hand|pg|| nt|granguru: as I said at the beginning ..probably @S finesse instead of a @C|pg|| nt|jcomyn: is 2s not forcing|pg|| nt|Walddk5: Welcome to George Holland|pg|| nt|daman: Hi everyone|pg|| nt|dburn: indeed you would - but you cannot cope with a simple raise in hearts|pg|| mb|p|nt|pelu: Mahaffey won the first match 17-13 against a team from Romania (with Bocchi-Maddala!?), Aspe lost 10-20 to a strong team from England|pg|| nt|granguru: panski plays 4@H here|pg|| nt|mamos: great idea :)|pg|| mb|3D|an| |nt|rcerreto: leading the longest suit is always an option|pg|| nt|ntmon: very hard to find @D fit because of intervetion and inevitable raise|pg|| nt|runnerup: who is the boss now?|pg|| nt|sfranchino: fast system..|pg|| nt|suketbombi: not a pay off to be in a grand on finesse tho|pg|| nt|kiwibridge: wow needed coffee after the 3N I expect :)|pg|| nt|kiwibridge: thanks for the update Micha;|pg|| mb|p|nt|peachy: good contract|pg|| nt|chmitty: 3@c more precise : no major and only one stopper ... South assumes the stopper is @s :)|pg|| nt|danilo1: 3@H is I guess 3NT try ... Cezary knows how valid is @CQ|pg|| nt|rodal f: We have 4 diferent options by us 4 commentators. WHAT IS THE BEST BID AT E IN THE LONG TERM?|pg|| nt|rodal f: Sr.N|pg|| nt|suketbombi: lead will make it much quicker|pg|| nt|kiwibridge: S may have backed in after that auction|pg|| nt|mamos: this should go down so little lost here by NS's passing|pg|| mb|3S|nt|paulg: Bocchi-Madala are playing for Lavazza in another group, whatever the results page says|pg|| nt|vugraphplb: there is a little misunderstanding after explanation|pg|| nt|ntmon: protective X from W - can be really costly now|pg|| nt|ntmon: hi George|pg|| nt|danilo1: wha not ... than pd has 5-card @S ... so @DQ no more vital ... @HK instead ... again Key-card ... and final contract ... in @S|pg|| nt|runnerup: south took blacwood-so perhaps norht take 7|pg|| nt|danilo1: problem here is that they both need to chk what pd has in @D ... and they did not do it|pg|| nt|dburn: North can presumably show @dK and @sQ now|pg|| nt|runnerup: he should tell his card and all he still needs is Q @d |pg|| nt|dburn: but South can't count 13 tricks after that|pg|| nt|ralfwil: do you agree with 1@s from N? in my opinion too strong and he must be happy that S could bid|pg|| mb|p|mb|4S|nt|vugraphplb: we have to wait for director decision in board 22|pg|| nt|kiwibridge: sure, 2 more Texas on that 3N "save" against 2@S :) all square|pg|| mb|p|nt|rcerreto: David, would you lead small or an honour?|pg|| nt|chmitty: well bid|pg|| mb|p|nt|runnerup: that can be good for south to bid 7 i yhink|pg|| mb|p|nt|pelu: if 1Nt = 12-14 I know as mynu who would pass - 12-14 + 10 = 22-24 and no spec fit|pg|| nt|Walddk5: Welcome to our second Murat, Anter|pg|| nt|jcomyn: p never gets in|pg|| nt|hajru: managed to get the contract in the right hand|pg|| nt|jcomyn: cant see how ew get any more than 3 aces|pg|| pc|dA|nt|MolvaM: the results page is here http://www.poznan2011.pl/results but since the event just started there is nothing in so far|pg|| nt|mamos: The match is all square 3NT-1 actually gained imps when EW made 2@s|pg|| nt|kiwibridge: all to play for both sides|pg|| pc|d5|nt|granguru: madala's father was the greatest VUGRAPH comentator of all times...a full show|pg|| nt|danilo1: ... bidding also looks like Lebensohn too - so one or another ... now in 4@H|pg|| nt|danilo1: now South knows ... almost enough :)|pg|| nt|barnets: poor choice of lead|pg|| pc|d8|nt|rodal f: A nice safety 1370, while 6@S=1430|pg|| nt|runnerup: and north happy -no guessing after all|pg|| pc|d7|pg|| nt|barnets: a trump would have been better|pg|| nt|hajru: agree. |pg|| nt|bigtrain: trump lead would only hace slowed down the play... the result would have been the same :)|pg|| nt|barnets: it would go trump @DK andsecond trump|pg|| pc|cA|nt|granguru: bridge rama at the time|pg|| pc|c3|nt|rcerreto: Ralf?|pg|| nt|danilo1: Polish Specs confirming Lebensohl|pg|| nt|suketbombi: actualy requirement is the @H finese after testing JTX of @C or JT doubleton so will be just about 55%:)|pg|| nt|suketbombi: my feeling is Texans may gain 12 or loose 3 here|pg|| nt|pelu: Hi I am back - PC-crass (blue screen)|pg|| nt|suketbombi: they are going to be in @DS and grand combined is reasonable given the potential in @Cs and @S suit|pg|| nt|suketbombi: @H finese is the last resort|pg|| nt|buddyshah: They are playing 6@D|pg|| nt|suketbombi: yes the little bird told me that|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c8|pg|| nt|dburn: I guess I would lead low - some danger of a blockage if partner has @dJx, for example|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c7|nt|brolucius: I am in the middle of writing a book that involves computer analysis of opening leads. We have found that leading the top honour is generally right.|pg|| nt|runnerup: claiming 2210|pg|| nt|rodal f: But 60 is a 2IMPer|pg|| nt|hajru: This speeds up play|pg|| pc|cJ|nt|dburn: well done Ish - 4@c must have been a pretty serious bid for him to use Blackwood immediately|pg|| nt|rodal f: Sr. Sleeping:) LOL|pg|| pc|cK|pg|| nt|granguru: .|pg|| nt|granguru: In board 22 the 3@D bid inhibited Hurd to lead the suit|pg|| nt|granguru: now claiming, for sure|pg|| nt|sfranchino: any way for make 7@d also with finesse @h that works @c 3-3 but any squeeze is possible|pg|| nt|suketbombi: so 3 imps it is|pg|| nt|barnets: with the @HJ falling second dec would prevail|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h2|nt|brolucius: More often than the old text-books suggest.|pg|| nt|ralfwil: a better play was to win the first trick with @c10 and hided @c9. could perhaps given an extra trick|pg|| pc|h4|nt|ntmon: one undertrick saved|pg|| pc|h8|pg|| nt|ralfwil: an honour, if dummy has a middle @d|pg|| nt|rcerreto: computer analysis could change several paradigms|pg|| nt|suketbombi: JTX of @Cs or JT doubleton @S QJ if you dont trace a squeeze after failing that take the @H finese|pg|| nt|buddyshah: In pairs Qualification : Kiran -Satya 8th and Guptaji -Krv 35th amongst 323 pairs. |pg|| nt|suketbombi: and the 3rd pair did not play buddy?|pg|| nt|buddyshah: I dont see it.|pg|| nt|jcomyn: wonderwhat happened the 3rd ace in open room|pg|| nt|bigtrain: something thats going to happen here i think|pg|| pc|d9|nt|MolvaM: 3nt could be reached on this board in the open room|pg|| nt|paulg: i'm sure they'll fix the team lineups on the results pages quickly, they have been very efficient|pg|| nt|granguru: as for garozzo's saying ..it must have been under specific circumstsnces...such as a 7-level suit contract, or 2. a cross-ruff hand type|pg|| pc|d3|pc|sQ|nt|chmitty: hummm ... did not see the @d Jack fall on the ace ?|pg|| nt|danilo1: interestig ... 3NT Dbled in OR, and here, 4@H not Dbled ... realy surprising (South is player with good Hearts)|pg|| pc|d2|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s6|pc|s2|pc|s3|pg|| pc|sT|nt|kiwibridge: great play N|pg|| nt|bigtrain: not any i guess|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o5|st||md|3SAT4HQ7DKQ82CKT87,SJ63HAKJT2DA75C95,S872H64DJT64CQJ32,SKQ95H9853D93CA64|sv|n|nt|psyck: true|pg|| nt|jbgood: no - N did well to keep the bidding open 2 times|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|psyck: Meckwell had no problems getting to 4@s anyway after 1@d by W|pg|| mb|1D|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|nt|psyck: I should not have said that, we may lose the handful of kibs still with us|pg|| nt|jbgood: another lucky game|pg|| nt|mdgraham: super EW fit - Axx opposite xx in both minors, trumps 3-3 and spades 3-3|pg|| mb|3D|mb|p|nt|psyck: yup, every card working & pulling its weight|pg|| nt|mdgraham: sry, trumps 2-2|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dJ|nt|psyck: @c loser goes away for an o/t now|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|dA|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|h3|pc|h7|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|h5|pc|hQ|pg|| nt|jbgood: so would have won even if @h 3-1 - if spades 3-3|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s7|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg|| nt|psyck: It is certainly not clear to bid this NV game, so could be another gain for Mahaffey|pg|| nt|dslee: I think this game would be bid. Should be a flat one|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d7|pc|dT|pc|d9|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|c5|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s4|pc|sJ|nt|psyck: 3@d was hardly obvious|pg|| pc|s8|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d6|pc|h8|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|h9|pc|c8|pc|hJ|pc|c2|pg|| nt|dburn: well, he had better than a minimum non-vulnerable overcall - 3@d was OK|pg|| pc|hT|pc|cQ|pc|c4|pc|cT|pg|| pc|h2|nt|Walddk3: We will be showing the women and seniors at 17.00 local time, in about 45 minutes|pg|| pc|d4|pc|c6|pc|dK|pg|| nt|psyck: true, normal to try, just saing not entiry sure to be bid|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s2|pc|sQ|pc|sT|pg|| pc|s9|pc|cK|pc|c9|pc|cJ|pg|| pg|| qx|c5|st||md|3SAT4HQ7DKQ82CKT87,SJ63HAKJT2DA75C95,S872H64DJT64CQJ32,SKQ95H9853D93CA64|sv|n|nt|brolucius: We did not mention that Cronier's 3NT was rather bold. Most would bid 2NT and a (very) few might bid 1NT.|pg|| nt|rcerreto: true|pg|| nt|rcerreto: well judged|pg|| nt|ralfwil: but he needed @dJ on dummy|pg|| nt|granguru: or 3. very low level, doubled contracts|pg|| nt|ntmon: CR overbid to 4@S on 2|pg|| nt|ralfwil: another 3nt, now on EW|pg|| nt|kiwibridge: no great harm|pg|| mb|p|nt|pelu: can NSA stop in 3@S here|pg|| nt|suketbombi: chance for keyzad and Venkat to stop in 3@S|pg|| nt|hajru: D9 becomes high and S can discard all H's|pg|| mb|p|nt|chmitty: next anyhow|pg|| nt|jcomyn: a real tempter|pg|| nt|kiwibridge: welcome Krishna|pg|| mb|1D|an| |nt|pelu: ok NS play transfer over 1@c|pg|| nt|peachy: This is what commentator slang calls "coffee hand". No problems, everyone go refill your drink of choice|pg|| nt|ntmon: OR|pg|| mb|1H|nt|rcerreto: that's why she bid 3 :)|pg|| nt|brolucius: Maybe 2@D?|pg|| nt|jcomyn: but that dont help|pg|| nt|suketbombi: depends on venkat's rebid on 1@S|pg|| nt|pelu: 1@H - 1@S - 3@S - P|pg|| nt|barnets: perfect 4 @H e/w|pg|| mb|p|nt|ralfwil: how many @s from W? I vote for 3@s|pg|| nt|paulg: i expect double shows the majors|pg|| nt|pelu: nice play to get 7 tricks in 2@c|pg|| nt|peachy: There certainly are very good reasons not to lead trump, but if one cant find one, then...trump|pg|| nt|granguru: aaah yes|pg|| nt|buddyshah: Acelesss i think 2@S |pg|| nt|psyck: Hi Gary & Mike :)|pg|| nt|mamos: Hi Krishna Close match!|pg|| nt|hajru: other scores are at: http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg|| nt|barnets: with @HQ falling|pg|| nt|barnets: and minor doubletons in opp hands|pg|| mb|2D|nt|rcerreto: a good partner has the J|pg|| nt|vugraphplb: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswleaderb.html|pg|| nt|jcomyn: now with no d bid they stay out of slam|pg|| nt|ntmon: @D cue - ostensibly|pg|| nt|suketbombi: that is it good valuation aceless so what if it is 5/4 and 14|pg|| nt|psyck: indeed, also the lowest scoring of all the QF's|pg|| mb|p|nt|rcerreto: oops, sorry|pg|| nt|rcerreto: he bid|pg|| nt|ralfwil: anyone with me?|pg|| nt|rcerreto: with 2@d?|pg|| nt|brolucius: Closer to 3@S than 1@S, perhaps.|pg|| nt|rcerreto: 1@s looks a little timid to me|pg|| nt|pelu: strange take out X by Baldurson|pg|| nt|daman: Hi Vladimir|pg|| nt|kiwibridge: good bridge here so far :)|pg|| nt|psyck: hopefully will be good to the end :)|pg|| mb|2N|nt|ralfwil: a 6-card suit @hK and a stiff @d|pg|| nt|brolucius: Spade game needs to be bid.|pg|| nt|rcerreto: good sacrifice in 5@d|pg|| nt|MolvaM: so 1@s probably shows 3 card spades?|pg|| nt|pelu: sorry - prob support x in @H|pg|| nt|jcomyn: or a dont-lead-a-diamond system|pg|| nt|suketbombi: they will now compete only up to 3 S venkat knws his points not working|pg|| nt|suketbombi: 3@S|pg|| nt|pelu: I would bid 3@S over the X - not invit|pg|| nt|pelu: no Lebensohl by EW?|pg|| mb|p|nt|brolucius: I don't know that 1@H was right when East had indicated the majors.|pg|| nt|rcerreto: maybe it was also meant to show real @c|pg|| nt|rcerreto: unsure though|pg|| nt|ralfwil: 3@h is for me a strong 3@s rise and an invite to 4@s|pg|| nt|MolvaM: and baldurson dbl is kind of a support dbl?|pg|| nt|pelu: ok he was down 2 - but recived a gift|pg|| nt|danilo1: interested in choice what/how to bid by South (1@C Polish, most often 12-14 BAL) |pg|| mb|4H|nt|brolucius: Allerton may have misread 3@H but East can correct.|pg|| nt|brolucius: Anyway, this is the sort of board we were looking for, after so much drab stuff.|pg|| nt|rcerreto: he has a pretty good hand, in context|pg|| nt|ralfwil: but you agree with the strong rise David?|pg|| nt|peachy: Strong 1C, probable 0-7 or some such 1D|pg|| nt|mamos: this looks a simpler task |pg|| nt|kiwibridge: Lavazza leads Mahaffey by 1 this one is tied|pg|| nt|psyck: yes, no losing line with black suits breaking|pg|| nt|kiwibridge: other 2 have good leads|pg|| mb|p|nt|granguru: under this premise I agree fully..the same philosophy of the 6NT lead..dont give tricks away to declarer on the initial lead.|pg|| nt|granguru: when you have points in all side suits normally declarer has a solid trump suit...|pg|| nt|ntmon: worked!|pg|| mb|p|nt|brolucius: Presumably intended as that. Since 1@S shows very little, as I see it, East might also consider 3@S.|pg|| nt|ralfwil: but the best with this bidding is that W has shown his @h honour|pg|| nt|rcerreto: maybe their standard for free bids is higher than yours and mine|pg|| nt|danilo1: 2@C may be @D transfer, or kind of asking - if so 2@D may just show min.|pg|| nt|Walddk1: Welcome to Richard Bley|pg|| nt|riccho: Good Morning everyone :) |pg|| nt|danilo1: Hi Richard|pg|| nt|sfranchino: conservative bid pass over double now 4@s |pg|| mb|p|nt|runnerup: 11 in @h and no ambitious higher so this is over in seconds|pg|| nt|barnets: well bid|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|pelu: Easr didnt read the X from West as @hs|pg|| nt|pelu: saved by S|pg|| nt|murat: good afternoon all :)|pg|| nt|pelu: wellcome now we hace 2 x Murat :)|pg|| nt|sfranchino: north has no cards for bid 3@s|pg|| nt|sfranchino: he is just bidded u hand|pg|| nt|Walddk5: We will be showing the women and seniors at 17.00 local time, in about 45 minutes|pg|| nt|barnets: this will be 1 imp to N/S for the lead|pg|| pc|cA|nt|brolucius: Although we may quibble with the odd bid or two, it seems that the players have judged it very well around the table. |pg|| nt|rcerreto: anyway, they succeeded in bidding the par|pg|| nt|brolucius: The term 'free bid' was responsible for a lot of awful bidding many decades ago.|pg|| nt|murat: guess one of the most common names of Turkey :)|pg|| nt|sfranchino: why bid same cards 2 times?|pg|| nt|pelu: S just places himself between 2 chairs by passing over the X - 100% blame to S and ok bidding by N|pg|| pc|c7|nt|rcerreto: in a difficult board|pg|| nt|rcerreto: yes, indeed|pg|| nt|granguru: ! both players are a bit exaggerating their hands|pg|| pc|s4|pg|| nt|peachy: Not knowing their system, North's Pass might have included better hands, and wek hands run immediately via Rdbl, that is one way of playing|pg|| nt|danilo1: not sure how obvious is 3NT by East ... he is min, and 2 open suits ... OK, has 3 tens and 5-card @C ... still|pg|| nt|riccho: now decl has 9 tricks in his bag. I c no other option than to play for @c to be 3-3 (or Hx somewhere). |pg|| nt|danilo1: wrong lead .... and big diff. |pg|| nt|dburn: one more round of the Swiss, and both teams occupying places in the low teens with 27 qualifiers|pg|| nt|mamos: I hate 1@c and then 1@s on North I like to be able to open or rebid NT on such balanced hands|pg|| nt|kiwibridge: S may get a bit excited|pg|| nt|hajru: Yes, not much that NS can make here|pg|| nt|barnets: e/w may hve competed to 2@C|pg|| pc|sT|nt|brolucius: Obviously East had read West for a much better hand than he holds.|pg|| pc|s6|nt|ralfwil: and I can´t see why...|pg|| nt|psyck: Not suire, looks normal to show the good @h's than @d stopper with Qxx|pg|| pc|s5|nt|riccho: E needs 33 in @c without alternative, because due to communication problems he has to duck @c immediately |pg|| nt|ntmon: looks like 1@D showing @h, 1@S nat forcing, 2@C weak preference, 2@H good hand|pg|| nt|daman: makes sense to me|pg|| nt|dburn: so both of them are well enough placed not to think about heading to New York (or Australia) just yet|pg|| nt|psyck: since you can always show @d stop at 3 level|pg|| nt|mamos: North wasn't going to be easily excited|pg|| pc|s8|pg|| nt|ntmon: i like transfer responses to 1@C - room for many gadgets|pg|| nt|daman: yes |pg|| nt|daman: I don't think 1@D was a transfer I think just a negative over the big club|pg|| nt|daman: <7|pg|| nt|runnerup: club ruff -diamond ruff and club ruft with j@h gives chances to defence|pg|| nt|psyck: yes S sensibly did no try anymore when N only bid 3N on 3@c|pg|| nt|psyck: *did not|pg|| nt|barnets: as 2@H looks down 1|pg|| pc|s9|nt|brolucius: Such a shame to lose IMPs unnecessarily when there are so many other ways of losing IMPs.|pg|| nt|rcerreto: could W consider his hand balanced?|pg|| nt|rcerreto: then open 1NT (or rebidding, if 1NT is weak)?|pg|| nt|brolucius: 3@C was presumably non-forcing, so it is hard to see how East had enough to look for an 11-trick game.|pg|| nt|granguru: well he treated the hand as a croos ruffing type|pg|| nt|granguru: and protected potential @d tricks|pg|| nt|peachy: Protected diamond tricks I think|pg|| nt|ntmon: then 2@C doesn't make much sense |pg|| nt|kiwibridge: as 2@D any GF I prefer to have 4@H to bid them|pg|| nt|psyck: this must show 3 for them & they would raise with 4 immediately i suppose|pg|| pc|s7|nt|ralfwil: If 1@s is´nt spades, 1nt from W looks normal for me |pg|| nt|murat: 9 tricks i guess|pg|| nt|jcomyn: another claim i daresay|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|h2|pg|| nt|danilo1: ideal def. is I guess -3 ... now making .. @SAK and small @C|pg|| nt|kiwibridge: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oqfrunda1.html for all running scores|pg|| pc|dT|nt|granguru: now he is not so sure anymore....|pg|| nt|chmitty: yep ... may be here they are in some "hole" of their system|pg|| nt|jcomyn: what about 2D|pg|| pc|d3|nt|peachy: Although, 2D foes not necessarily promise 4+ diamonds|pg|| nt|daman: it does seem starange|pg|| nt|dburn: 1@s seems to have shown hearts - some Italian pairs swap 1@h and 1@s around after this start to the bidding|pg|| pc|d2|nt|peachy: In my opinion, the range 12-16 is susceptible to trouble at some point|pg|| nt|peachy: kib says my suggeswted method is common in Hungary, but we still dont know if NS play that way|pg|| nt|riccho: with 23 HCP and no fit you have to be lucky to succeed in 3NT... |pg|| nt|danilo1: wrong = unlucky (lead) |pg|| nt|daman: strange*|pg|| pc|dK|pg|| pc|sA|nt|granguru: as we see, he changed his mind but fortunatelly N had a @S left|pg|| nt|peachy: if EW play 2/1 (which I do not know if they do)|pg|| nt|suketbombi: no idea Michal the flag says spain|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h7|nt|danilo1: waw :)|pg|| nt|riccho: leading and slam bidding are the most expensive parts of team playing. This is another proof of that... |pg|| nt|danilo1: did he really believe that Cezary would play @C from Jxx?|pg|| nt|riccho: declarer - much to his discomfort - found another way of handling the @c suit|pg|| nt|jcomyn: sorry gotg held up|pg|| nt|daman: Hi John|pg|| pc|sK|pg|| nt|buddyshah: same lead in OR but PS play A and Small @S saving a trick|pg|| nt|buddyshah: soon we will have a new leader, Board 19 going texan way.|pg|| nt|barnets: south likely would bid 2@D|pg|| nt|hajru: Not sure who should bid what, I cannot blame W for passing 1@h with 5 trumps and perhaps only a 4-3 @c fit|pg|| nt|barnets: over 2@C|pg|| nt|barnets: it would be east to x 1@H and west bid 2@C|pg|| pc|hT|nt|ntmon: hi John|pg|| nt|dburn: other pairs use double to promise hearts, and 1@h to show spades|pg|| nt|dburn: some antedliuvian folk persist in bidding the suits they have, but they're all in Swiss B by now|pg|| nt|danilo1: what would happe if North did not ruff, @DK, but discrad @S instead?|pg|| nt|psyck: they are a ton of natural & artificial raises available after 1m-1M|pg|| nt|mamos: "imaginative" @dK lead|pg|| pc|h3|nt|MolvaM: I was asked twice the question "what are these people doing here" :) probably looking at the strane flag combinations|pg|| nt|MolvaM: this is the European Opan Championship|pg|| nt|MolvaM: Open|pg|| nt|granguru: excelent defense after all|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|danilo1: Adam will resolve problem ... if declar would have @HK, he will not be in hurry with @S unblock|pg|| nt|riccho: decl may have trusted the length signal from S (it it was one...). Doesn´t he know Balicki - Zmudzinski then? |pg|| nt|jcomyn: hiya |pg|| pc|hK|pg|| nt|suketbombi: this is a good board for texan|pg|| nt|suketbombi: he plays usually for spain and lives in spain but is from argentina|pg|| nt|pelu: Ventin has played in Spain, but in Sao Paolo NPC for the Ateam from Argentina|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h4|nt|pelu: very nice defense|pg|| nt|pelu: sorry playing captain|pg|| pc|h6|pc|c6|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|granguru: declarer can lose 4 more tricks now|pg|| nt|granguru: for down THREE|pg|| pc|d7|nt|granguru: panski wished he would have been in dummy now|pg|| pc|d4|nt|chmitty: As usual, Lauria "manipulates" his cards for his best benefit and will claim 8 tricks|pg|| nt|dburn: not sure - may gain a trick, but this looks one down at any rate|pg|| nt|danilo1: this is good as well|pg|| nt|buddyshah: now 10 @D|pg|| nt|suketbombi: match will be closer after this bd I guess|pg|| mc|7|nt|barnets: same bidding in open room|pg|| pg|| qx|o7|st||md|1SAJ764HKQ7DQ84CK7,S95H53DAKT73CQJT6,SKQ8HAJ864D92CA84,ST32HT92DJ65C9532|sv|b|nt|jbgood: and a less than perfect defense made him win the contract too|pg|| nt|dburn: moreover, it was harder to beat 1@h than it would have been to make something his way|pg|| nt|mdgraham: flat board, anyway Meckstroth also made 1@h|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|3H|nt|psyck: They will stop at some safe level here after finding no @d control|pg|| mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|nt|jbgood: 12 tricks here i a M - but 2 losers...|pg|| mb|4C|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dJ|nt|jbgood: good lead|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|d2|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d8|pc|dT|pc|d9|pg|| pc|dK|pc|hJ|pc|d5|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|h3|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h5|pc|h4|pc|h9|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c7|st||md|1SAJ764HKQ7DQ84CK7,S95H53DAKT73CQJT6,SKQ8HAJ864D92CA84,ST32HT92DJ65C9532|sv|b|nt|ralfwil: a wise man told me once - don´t take gifts, so @dK should be played to follow his advise|pg|| nt|brolucius: FIFA do not follow that advice.|pg|| nt|MolvaM: so there is no restriction in countries and anybody can play with anybody from any country|pg|| nt|MolvaM: totally open event|pg|| nt|MolvaM: and even though its a European event, its open to people from other continents|pg|| nt|riccho: -400 instead of +600 ... urks|pg|| nt|jcomyn: yawn yawn hand|pg|| nt|kiwibridge: 14=strong? how things have changed|pg|| nt|psyck: deal 19...|pg|| nt|kiwibridge: ah..can't see the bidding here :)|pg|| mb|1N|nt|mamos: NS have game here|pg|| mb|p|nt|jcomyn: obvious 3nt|pg|| nt|runnerup: in that 7 last board in other table ew came in with double and ns had chances to make live difficult them selfs by redoubling etc..|pg|| nt|hajru: and the first board without a score|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 14-16|pg|| mb|2D|an| |nt|granguru: S should have played a @H at trick 4 in tha last hand|pg|| nt|peachy: Nort upgraded this to Strong 16+ 1C|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 2@D = 5+@H|pg|| mb|p|nt|chmitty: we can imagine NS will reach 4@s|pg|| nt|danilo1: well, ideal (double Dummy def.) was @H lead for !Q, @D back, and @H ... since @D block later ... -3 .. but NS foudnd way for -4 :)|pg|| nt|pelu: he live in Spain (Barcelona) - but has WBF code from Argentina|pg|| nt|psyck: yes, it went 1@c-(x)-p-(1@d)-all pass|pg|| mb|2H|nt|peachy: I qm surprised at 1C|pg|| mb|p|nt|paulg: 3@h is the probably the value bid for Mahaffey, but many just put 4@h on the table and make it the opponents' problem|pg|| nt|pelu: East for sure dont like his hand after 2@D overcall|pg|| nt|chmitty: Many will open 4@s in this position|pg|| nt|jcomyn: wrong again - oh well|pg|| nt|dburn: in theory, I guess North-South want to play this in 3NT as things are|pg|| nt|danilo1: 4@H -1 on @D lead|pg|| nt|petergill: 2NT GF Raise|pg|| nt|runnerup: you need take @d ruff here|pg|| nt|dburn: but it may not be so easy for West to lead a diamond - still, he has so little that he may see a ruff as the best chance to beat the hand|pg|| nt|dburn: or that @dJ will set up some tricks for his partner, at any rate|pg|| nt|suketbombi: key is wary of the 3rd seat opening |pg|| nt|pelu: also 1NTX in OR|pg|| nt|hajru: transfer, 3N, 4@h, making with an overtrick?|pg|| mb|3N|nt|jcomyn: I dont know how he can pass|pg|| nt|ntmon: should not be right :(|pg|| nt|jcomyn: 11 tricks cold in s and he didnt even double 5c|pg|| mb|p|nt|paulg: South will pass, probably needs a fourth spade to double|pg|| nt|jcomyn: 5c at least 2 down to save some imps|pg|| nt|daman: it would be hard to stop below 3NT I agree|pg|| nt|ntmon: hopefully 1@S is understood as forcing|pg|| nt|sfranchino: dbl again|pg|| nt|suketbombi: yes can escape for 200 on a@S guess|pg|| mb|4H|nt|brolucius: Some might play a weak-strong 2NT on the East cards, to differentiate between strong and distributional 3@D hands.|pg|| nt|pelu: what a lead - but he will have a new chance later|pg|| nt|riccho: heh|pg|| nt|sfranchino: 1nt double and 2@s pass |pg|| nt|sfranchino: any sense again|pg|| nt|sfranchino: this match is full of nonsense|pg|| mb|p|nt|rcerreto: no way to play trumps from N|pg|| nt|rcerreto: then it should make|pg|| nt|murat: anybody dbl with east hand ?|pg|| nt|peachy: Molenaar must have at least thought of balancing|pg|| nt|granguru: leslie amoils is a canadian player...wonder why she has the USA flag here|pg|| nt|pelu: what would u bid? |pg|| nt|suketbombi: i think we all need to be careful B$ chossing the words |pg|| nt|sfranchino: if i double 1nt which is the reason for no double 2@s?|pg|| nt|suketbombi: B4|pg|| nt|kiwibridge: thanks|pg|| nt|mamos: eschewing the eight card fit ..|pg|| mb|p|nt|rcerreto: even misguessing @d|pg|| nt|MolvaM: not me|pg|| nt|murat: i mean after 4@h|pg|| nt|pelu: no|pg|| nt|paulg: standard Polish lead, second highest from three|pg|| nt|granguru: @SQ9 big helpers|pg|| nt|chmitty: let's see if declarer finds the way to 10 tricks|pg|| nt|chmitty: a @c at trick 2 would reveal most of the layout|pg|| nt|chmitty: North can see that East does not hold AK or KDJ @c|pg|| nt|chmitty: and not QJ@h either|pg|| nt|psyck: sometimes we lose the bidding & play when operator adjusts result...|pg|| mb|p|nt|peachy: Plenty to think about before playing trick 1|pg|| nt|bigtrain: i bet 2 overtricks|pg|| nt|barnets: West needs cash @DAK|pg|| pc|dA|nt|rcerreto: oops|pg|| nt|rcerreto: they found the way|pg|| nt|Walddk3: Both losing semifinalists are awarded bronze medals. There is no playoff for third place (a good decision in my view)|pg|| nt|brolucius: East hoping for a heart ruff.|pg|| nt|rcerreto: yes, 3rd-4th place finals are dull|pg|| nt|brolucius: But neither team has a bronze medal in their sights at this moment.|pg|| nt|rcerreto: winning A and playing a @h back would have forced S to play trumps but...|pg|| nt|danilo1: to lead for ruff is good when one has blank hand|pg|| nt|dburn: and if North-South keep bidding black suits, a diamond will look more and more clear|pg|| pc|d9|nt|rcerreto: this way has a chance to discard a @h on @s|pg|| nt|pelu: why sh he X?|pg|| nt|pelu: and penalyse pd for a 3. hand opening? - u dont X in teams if u only exp down 1 - u pass and collect|pg|| nt|barnets: or he wont get them|pg|| nt|barnets: East should encourage|pg|| nt|barnets: to cash|pg|| pc|d6|nt|rcerreto: a very good chance now|pg|| nt|Walddk5: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswrunda5.html running now|pg|| nt|petergill: Cue bids are 1st/2nd, so N has denied @d control|pg|| nt|danilo1: ... @D lead is bid :)|pg|| pc|d4|pg|| nt|ntmon: more sporting contract but makes|pg|| nt|daman: I did not expect 4@S to be the final contract|pg|| nt|jcomyn: who would. another did you buy a lottery ticket hand|pg|| nt|dburn: too much science can be as bad as too little|pg|| nt|kiwibridge: double @S hook with eyes closed = easy game|pg|| nt|barnets: as he cant stand any shift|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cA|nt|MolvaM: looks like 4 losers but declarer will still look for an endplay to get rid of the@s loser|pg|| nt|murat: for a save or for some money|pg|| nt|jcomyn: missin just the KQ10876 of trumps|pg|| nt|daman: over 2@S North could have bid 3@H|pg|| nt|ntmon: if N was afraid 1@H being passed out, should have bid 2@H|pg|| nt|daman: or South could simply have bid 2@D over 1@S|pg|| nt|ntmon: that would bring 2@S if S has them for sure|pg|| pc|c5|nt|ntmon: i would feel elevated with S hand as such and did some cunning bidding, at least 4@D splinter |pg|| pc|c7|pg|| nt|riccho: another time to misguess sth for E here. Difficult to be right here after u mangled a hand like the one before. will be interesting to c if E is still inspired enought|pg|| nt|ralfwil: wrong defence. let W win the first trick and he will continue with trump|pg|| pc|h4|nt|pelu: score now 13-1 for Lavazza|pg|| nt|chmitty: is this the actual play ????|pg|| nt|peachy: Declarer does not know that DA drops doubleton, he took a chance that E lead from QJxxx|pg|| nt|danilo1: another case for invitational bid ... and pass ... especiall when playing vs. excellent defenders ... |pg|| nt|riccho: he should do it right anyway: S didnt open but showed @hAK now|pg|| nt|danilo1: this will go down much easier (unf. also less :))|pg|| pc|h2|nt|kiwibridge: trying to go down?|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h3|pg|| nt|danilo1: Diorgio shouldplay @D10 for ruff|pg|| nt|psyck: no, he wants to knock out @c 1st in case it was with E|pg|| nt|psyck: that would have been entry to E's @h if dec had played @s 1st|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|granguru: Leslie should be Les Amoils, male, lived in South Africa before coming to Canada|pg|| pc|h5|nt|hajru: well, it looks as if he didn't|pg|| pc|h6|nt|dburn: perhaps, but there isn't any pressing need for West to play a club - South did cue the suit, after all|pg|| nt|runnerup: sementa dont trust him :) -so good bridge -thoughtfull|pg|| pc|h9|pg|| nt|pelu: @s4 sh ask for @c|pg|| nt|riccho: yes u are right|pg|| nt|pelu: u can see all 52 cards, Stefano - the players cant|pg|| nt|sfranchino: one time the big player Dano De Falco said to me: when u double a partial contratc lead always with a trump|pg|| pc|h7|pc|d3|nt|kiwibridge: fair enough|pg|| nt|psyck: e.g. if @dQ & @cA with E, then only 4 @s, 2@h, 2@d for dec...if @cA not killed immed|pg|| nt|psyck: This is a piece of cake for JM, on of India's top players|pg|| nt|psyck: *one|pg|| pc|hA|pc|hT|pg|| nt|granguru: probably with USA flag because Kamil's team is register as such|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|brolucius: 2NT was just made on the deal where E/W went two down in 4@C, so 8 IMPs to Zimmermann.|pg|| nt|pelu: that a DD analyse|pg|| nt|danilo1: still ... -2 |pg|| nt|suketbombi: agree peter he was weary about the 3rd seat opening anyway he was like a person who was relieved that he does need to double again|pg|| nt|sfranchino: yes peter but i see also my opening pard|pg|| nt|sfranchino: if i double 1nt penalty how is possible pass over 2@s? i said only this|pg|| nt|suketbombi: so @S was guessed in OR in that 1nt X|pg|| nt|pelu: for sure, MY good friend Dano, would also pass here :):)|pg|| nt|hajru: well, 2 overtricks|pg|| pc|d5|nt|riccho: Helgemo helness agreed with the bidding in bd 6 (but not in the play: +14 imps for monaco z)|pg|| nt|dburn: and besides, why should he play the ten and set up South's eight when, left to his own devices, South will play West for the ten anyway?|pg|| pc|d8|nt|pelu: if u X for 1 down odds are against u: 3 / 5 IMP|pg|| nt|murat: right|pg|| nt|pelu: vuln and 2 / 5 non vuln|pg|| nt|MolvaM: baldursson has too many high cards and has to defend carefully to avoid being thrown in|pg|| nt|murat: he should win with the king now|pg|| nt|chmitty: I think he is wrong : Versace would not easily raise to 2@h with xxx cards|pg|| pc|d7|pg|| pc|h8|nt|petergill: Very recent photo of Ish and Ash (i.e. NS) at http://www.abf.com.au/events/vcc/vccPhotos.asp?2011|pg|| nt|sfranchino: :) i know he is very conservative but i think that in this hand double from south is obbligatory perhaps he had afraid about light opening pard in 3 position|pg|| nt|buddyshah: Too many lost opporutnities for Texans in 7 boards, so stefano is somewhat correct. However other table in 2@H so 3-5 more for texans |pg|| nt|sfranchino: anyway i risk same and i double :) if not i no double 1nt...|pg|| nt|barnets: another imp for n/s|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dQ|nt|ntmon: 2 off|pg|| pc|c6|pg|| nt|murat: or else he'll be endplayed|pg|| nt|mamos: do we know why this team are called Texan Aces Krishna?|pg|| nt|psyck: he left one of the top most college in India early in the 70's to become India's 1st Bridge professional|pg|| pc|sK|nt|sfranchino: A@d and @c|pg|| pc|s2|nt|peachy: That I am not so sure about|pg|| nt|chmitty: and on top of that there is no reason for East to underlead QJ@h at trick 1|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s5|pg|| nt|psyck: The Sponser Gopal Venkatesh, is nicknamed Texas|pg|| mc|12|nt|suketbombi: yes stefano you would be right here buth thay have maged to get 5 imps here slow and steady wins the race:)|pg|| nt|mamos: Ty|pg|| pg|| qx|o8|st||md|2SA42HK96DK43CQJT9,SQT985HT73D765C87,SKJ3H84DA82CA6432,S76HAQJ52DQJT9CK5|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1H|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|nt|mdgraham: prabably 3NT here - West had better lead his partner's suit.....|pg|| mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4C|mb|p|nt|dburn: might head for 5@c instead|pg|| nt|mdgraham: well, so much for 3NT then|pg|| nt|dslee: Swarnendu should pass here - JM is not showing anything extra|pg|| mb|p|nt|dburn: South reckoning he needed some help in hearts - quite right, as things are|pg|| mb|p|nt|psyck: nice|pg|| nt|dburn: well judged indeed|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|mdgraham: not often you see a 13-count not insist on game facing an opening bid|pg|| nt|dslee: Swarnendu should had done it at 3@C itself - even through for this deal , it would not make a difference|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|dA|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|h3|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dK|pc|d7|pc|d8|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h7|pc|h4|pc|h5|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hT|pc|c2|pc|h2|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dJ|pc|d4|pc|d6|pg|| nt|psyck: I cannot see meckwell stopping short of game :) so Texan may recover a few imps|pg|| nt|mdgraham: you would bet on Meckstroth-Rodwell getting to game at the other table|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s2|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pg|| nt|dslee: I will|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s7|pc|sA|pc|sT|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c7|pc|c3|pc|cK|pg|| mc|10|nt|psyck: 3N by N after @h overcall other room as expected|pg|| nt|dslee: if one looks at the overall Texans record in all tournaments including this- most often they trail in the first few deals before making up later.|pg|| nt|dslee: is this a break now?|pg|| nt|psyck: unfortunately Meckwell have a better track record of doing that :)|pg|| nt|vugraphpl5: players took a short break|pg|| nt|dburn: yes, but Meckwell aren't used to being in the lead with six boards to go - bound to crumble from here|pg|| nt|vugraphpl5: will be back in a minute|pg|| nt|dslee: since its a break, would just take time to Introduce the Texans here - Sitting South Is Swarnendu coming from the city of Joy Calcutta, JM from the financial hub Bombay, Key on ...|pg|| nt|dslee: other table from the textile hub Indore and Texan originally from Chennai now based in the US|pg|| nt|dslee: the other pair P Sridhar and Sunder Ram - is from the southern city of Chennai|pg|| nt|psyck: Other than Swarnendu & Keyzad, the rest are graduates from IIT Chennai college|pg|| nt|dslee: Well all CK seniors I guess :)|pg|| nt|psyck: right :)|pg|| nt|dslee: not many from IIT KGP though :( in the circuit|pg|| nt|psyck: JMShah, quit college in early 70's to become the 1st indian bridge pro|pg|| pg|| qx|c8|st||md|2SA42HK96DK43CQJT9,SQT985HT73D765C87,SKJ3H84DA82CA6432,S76HAQJ52DQJT9CK5|sv|o|nt|rcerreto: anyway, she guessed @d right|pg|| nt|brolucius: All plus scores gratefully received.|pg|| nt|rcerreto: it was just a matter of overtricks then|pg|| nt|Walddk3: Can you stand another nail-biter, David?|pg|| nt|brolucius: Yes, I have taken my pills.|pg|| nt|pelu: sorru on East|pg|| nt|granguru: panski is trying to cash all defensive tricks bfore it is too late|pg|| nt|chmitty: a nice "challenge the champs" deal here|pg|| nt|chmitty: 7@h = 20/20|pg|| nt|runnerup: an other 6 for Apteker last board ns in 3 @c not doubled but down 3|pg|| nt|psyck: Yes, you have tons of more options thanks to internet & BBO|pg|| nt|barnets: here a heart lead defeats 3N|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 1@D = 2+ 10-15|pg|| nt|hajru: don't they play a weak NT anymore?|pg|| nt|bigtrain: hard to imagine another result|pg|| nt|bigtrain: no|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 14-16|pg|| nt|bigtrain: haven't for nearly a decade|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 1NT is 14-16 1/2/3NV 15-17 3V/4|pg|| nt|barnets: i have seen13 a lot|pg|| nt|bigtrain: they use special glasses|pg|| nt|barnets: :) special poin count|pg|| nt|vugraphplb: little break|pg|| nt|barnets: actually in 4@C in open|pg|| nt|hajru: great, going to get a coffee then|pg|| nt|barnets: so that is optimum for n/s|pg|| nt|jcomyn: but hard to resist nt|pg|| nt|bigtrain: i'll take this opportunity to guess the auction here then...|pg|| nt|bigtrain: P-1@D-1@H-3@H//P-3NT-all pass|pg|| nt|barnets: ilike that auction|pg|| mb|p|nt|peachy: Kamil's team is listed as transnational, not USA, in the event|pg|| nt|suketbombi: frozen?|pg|| nt|sfranchino: uhmmm|pg|| nt|sfranchino: time to count points|pg|| nt|sfranchino: time please|pg|| nt|sfranchino: i must count|pg|| nt|barnets: in case north has QX|pg|| nt|barnets: in hearts|pg|| nt|jcomyn: 1D - 1H - 3nt|pg|| mb|1D|an| |nt|granguru: S multi 2@D|pg|| nt|paulg: good result for Meckwell in the other room (probably not the last time we'll say that in this championship)|pg|| mb|1H|nt|paulg: I've noticed many pairs treat the Multi 2@d as weak with spades when it comes to their 2nd seat defence|pg|| nt|pelu: and 5@H close to make on a small @S-lead |pg|| nt|paulg: it's rare to see that in the UK, but would work here|pg|| nt|paulg: 3@h from North?|pg|| nt|ntmon: krajewski in the meantime gains with a series of mid-sized profits|pg|| nt|daman: must be a canape opening|pg|| mb|3H|nt|Walddk3: No credit for my hy-phen?|pg|| nt|pelu: for D = balanced 12-15 or any 16+|pg|| nt|pelu: for me|pg|| nt|granguru: Amoil played for SA in the world teams in bermuda 2000 |pg|| nt|peachy: really light third-seater here|pg|| nt|vugraphplb: i thought that he is from Usa becouse he doesn't exist in EBL base|pg|| nt|mamos: 4@h looks best|pg|| nt|barnets: good auction walter|pg|| mb|p|nt|paulg: that is the norm in the UK too|pg|| nt|jcomyn: 3nt i suppose|pg|| nt|ntmon: strong @C variety, finally|pg|| mb|3N|nt|paulg: 4@d will be 'bid your major' (4@c would have been transfer to your major)|pg|| nt|granguru: yes many play 2@D x= short in @S |pg|| nt|daman: this auction should show longer @Ss than @Ds|pg|| mb|p|nt|pelu: wd by West|pg|| nt|granguru: and 2@d - 2@h 5+ @H|pg|| nt|paulg: this is similar to the situation in the Open Room, where West doubled|pg|| nt|pelu: forcing pass in N?|pg|| nt|rodal f: And done we are|pg|| nt|pelu: when both minor J's drop there are 13 toptricks|pg|| nt|sfranchino: intersting 2@h...4|pg|| mb|p|nt|brolucius: Be careful because jtr is watching.|pg|| nt|granguru: now a correct flag in W ...thanks Michal|pg|| nt|peachy: and another 16+ 1C here, maybe they have additional agreements on what constitutes a 1C opening that we do not know about |pg|| nt|ntmon: XX = transfer to @H ?|pg|| nt|buddyshah: 2 H = @H otr BAL|pg|| nt|kiwibridge: strange 3@S|pg|| nt|psyck: W may have started planning to smolen, after hearing @h fit, sets that as trumps|pg|| nt|psyck: many play 3 of other major as setting trumps with possible slam interest|pg|| nt|mamos: Not so sure i like 1NT - maybe Ok for experts but ..... |pg|| nt|hajru: good guess walter|pg|| mb|p|nt|ralfwil: ??? dbl from me as E|pg|| nt|paulg: surely not a forcing pass situation|pg|| nt|jcomyn: hmmm 24 hcp and want to defend 1s - verybrave|pg|| nt|barnets: if north had QX hearts only spot|pg|| nt|barnets: 3@H asks partner to bid 3N|pg|| nt|barnets: fom his side|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|pelu: but East help him, in on @CK he played @D - ruff, @C to A @S to 10 and duck - and now endplayed - East sh play @C back and no endplay|pg|| nt|suketbombi: this one is a grand again but needs both @DS & @CS to behave if only @Cs then Viena coup and........|pg|| nt|psyck: not ok for me either|pg|| pc|h6|nt|rcerreto: a cheap save on 4@h|pg|| nt|brolucius: 4@S has escaped a double, but the cards lie well for declarer so the lack of a double will not cost E/W much.|pg|| nt|granguru: In the meanwhile NS surpassed the safet level of 5@C|pg|| nt|granguru: is 6@C makeable?|pg|| nt|granguru: after A GAROZZO's lead|pg|| nt|peachy: on the surface, looks like just lose a spade, whether the tricks are there is another matter|pg|| nt|peachy: Kib who knows NS style says they love to surprise opps with frequent tactical bids|pg|| nt|riccho: 1 trick in every suit for ew = just make|pg|| nt|dburn: nervous for South - the kind of hand where if you overcall and get doubled, you know you are going down a lot against nothing|pg|| pc|h7|nt|danilo1: despite 3NT looks makable for NS ... good defense should beat it ... so good stop|pg|| nt|daman: http://www.bridgeguys.com/CGlossary/canape.html|pg|| nt|daman: website for results http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg|| nt|runnerup: @d in time means now|pg|| nt|kiwibridge: not probably expecting a stiff Q@D|pg|| nt|psyck: & i bid many offshape NT's|pg|| nt|kiwibridge: I don't see the need for it|pg|| nt|bigtrain: where do i go to get my prize?|pg|| pc|h8|pg|| nt|ralfwil: but still a dbl....|pg|| nt|granguru: 2 discards on reds|pg|| nt|chmitty: as long as they do not surprise themselves that's fine :)|pg|| nt|psyck: agree, with good holdings in majors, 1@c is very normal|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|pelu: why not - u have bid game Red against green |pg|| pc|hK|nt|pelu: its for me a good standard rule|pg|| nt|chmitty: Full brakes on, from North's standpoint|pg|| nt|chmitty: South has a lot ... can he give up ?|pg|| nt|peachy: 6 controls opposite strong club, he just cant pass|pg|| nt|hajru: That is quite a useful convention, even though it doesn't help here|pg|| nt|barnets: roland will give you a coke|pg|| pc|h3|nt|jcomyn: choice of plays - hate thast|pg|| nt|jcomyn: probably play on d and postpone finesses|pg|| nt|ntmon: on 17, meckwell started as reccomended: 1@S-2N-4@D|pg|| nt|ntmon: perhaps @H finesse, if ducked revert to @D|pg|| nt|jcomyn: little point in ducking|pg|| nt|ntmon: not an easy hand due to communication problems|pg|| nt|jcomyn: so many choices|pg|| nt|mamos: there a re shapes that are difficult to bid but not this one for me :)|pg|| pc|h4|pg|| nt|brolucius: Had the cards lain differently, not doubling might have waved goodbye to 500 or so.|pg|| nt|brolucius: East may have feared a third-hand opener, but her side was vulnerable.|pg|| nt|ralfwil: a thirs hand opening, but I can take 170 extra if declarer makes|pg|| nt|brolucius: West does not know that partner holds 10 points, so he cannot double 4@S even with an extra value or so. |pg|| nt|ralfwil: but shouldn´t E?|pg|| nt|pelu: now N can make 1NT - topplay @Hs and only 6 tricks for EW|pg|| nt|granguru: 3 discards on reds sorry|pg|| nt|granguru: one @S given up|pg|| nt|pelu: most pairs use 2@S as the 2. relay - to get the Nt on the strong hand|pg|| nt|suketbombi: many possiblities but by no stech a good grand|pg|| pc|c9|nt|sfranchino: what a bid horrible|pg|| nt|suketbombi: :)|pg|| pc|c8|nt|Walddk3: The contract is doubled at both tables in the other match|pg|| nt|granguru: so just one ruff needed|pg|| nt|peachy: It is also possible that 4S was RKC|pg|| nt|sfranchino: horrible play also south and points are dummy|pg|| pc|c2|nt|daman: vugraph schedule for future matches http://www.bridgebase.com/vugraph/schedule.php|pg|| pc|cK|pg|| nt|brolucius: Quite right.|pg|| nt|chmitty: May be 4@s was kind of blackwood|pg|| nt|sfranchino: horrible|pg|| nt|suketbombi: you want to be in a grand stefano?|pg|| nt|pelu: the Swedish @C-system also got the Nt in SA|pg|| nt|sfranchino: dont understand the sense of 2@h from north|pg|| nt|sfranchino: bridge is easy 2@c 2@d 2NT if south has interest for majors he can bid 3@c|pg|| nt|buddyshah: 2@H = @H or BALANCE hand|pg|| nt|sfranchino: and 2@c 2@d 2NT ?|pg|| nt|buddyshah: Very well defended 4NT got 13 to Texanaces.|pg|| pc|hA|nt|peachy: it does make|pg|| nt|granguru: not even garozzo beats 6@c here|pg|| nt|petergill: NS needs to get their @d trick before the @h are set up|pg|| nt|dburn: still, he can't pass - and even when del Monte can pass, he often doesn't|pg|| nt|sfranchino: so he can play from the right side|pg|| nt|buddyshah: i think shows @C suit in their system|pg|| pc|h9|nt|peachy: WD White House team|pg|| nt|peachy: It would be nice if in a competition of this level, there were convention cards available|pg|| nt|chmitty: true :(|pg|| nt|chmitty: True also that there are many pairs in competition : huge job|pg|| nt|peachy: It makes kibitzing so much nicer, to know what the auction means|pg|| pc|hT|nt|chmitty: a suggestion could be that the players had to fill themselves an "electronic convention card" before the championship|pg|| nt|ntmon: right, John :)|pg|| nt|jcomyn: its a headache hand |pg|| nt|ntmon: agree|pg|| nt|jcomyn: d suit may die now|pg|| pc|d2|pg|| nt|chmitty: that will come soon, I'm sure|pg|| nt|suketbombi: Stefano I suggest you look at their convention card they may not be playing same system as you do|pg|| nt|barnets: 5 imps|pg|| pc|h5|nt|murat: he should played the Ace @h|pg|| nt|ntmon: N with shut down with XX showing @H|pg|| nt|barnets: for e/w|pg|| pc|s2|nt|jcomyn: and just did|pg|| nt|jcomyn: I dont think he found the best line entries are very short for finessing|pg|| nt|jcomyn: cant even get a s if d is returned|pg|| nt|pelu: prob 2Nt by S show his values - balanced and 7-9 ?|pg|| pc|s5|nt|paulg: it is a good standard rule for me too, but not when one hand has pre-empted|pg|| nt|petergill: Good @S play - now S has to decide - @HQ or @DK|pg|| pc|s3|pg|| nt|brolucius: Now East may grab @CA.|pg|| nt|dburn: chances are that since East didn't double here South might get the clubs wrong|pg|| pc|h2|nt|runnerup: south missed another chance|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o9|st||md|3SQJ8H962D7432CK98,SK932HQJ85DAKQ9C4,S6HA4DJ65CAQT7532,SAT754HKT73DT8CJ6|sv|e|nt|dslee: welcome back after the break|pg|| mb|1C|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|4C|mb|5C|mb|d|mb|p|nt|psyck: match getting tighter|pg|| nt|dburn: good shot, that - Mahaffey won't find it easy to sit for this|pg|| nt|dslee: good bid by JM|pg|| nt|psyck: indeed, very tuf call|pg|| mb|p|nt|dslee: I am sure in the break , Swar and JM has refined their strategy|pg|| mb|p|nt|dburn: but he judged well|pg|| nt|jbgood: good save - may be even cheaper on a high spade lead|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s8|pc|s2|pc|s6|pg|| pc|dT|nt|jbgood: 2 for @ds|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dQ|pc|d5|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d6|pc|d8|pc|d3|pg|| nt|jbgood: but the heart loser may disappear now|pg|| pc|dA|pc|dJ|pc|s4|pc|d4|pg|| pc|d9|pc|h4|pc|h7|pc|d7|pg|| nt|psyck: hmmm|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h2|pg|| pc|cA|nt|mdgraham: interesting|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c8|pc|c4|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c9|st||md|3SQJ8H962D7432CK98,SK932HQJ85DAKQ9C4,S6HA4DJ65CAQT7532,SAT754HKT73DT8CJ6|sv|e|nt|ralfwil: but perhaps only 2 imps|pg|| nt|rcerreto: should she risk -420 to get 100 instead of 50?|pg|| nt|dburn: risk? what risk?|pg|| nt|brolucius: Better to risk a double in the first place.|pg|| nt|Walddk3: An excellent 6@D now|pg|| nt|dburn: declarer could have the singleton king of clubs only if she had about ten cards rather than thirteen|pg|| nt|rcerreto: can declarer have one more @d one less @c?|pg|| nt|ralfwil: 6@d on NS - a nice contract|pg|| nt|rcerreto: N was declarer, I think|pg|| nt|Walddk3: In theory, there is a club ruff, but fortunately for declarer, the defender with the singleton club also has @DA|pg|| nt|brolucius: An interesting bidding test. If they bid it, I will applaud.|pg|| nt|brolucius: 6@C is more tricky and that might be reached.|pg|| nt|Walddk3: They may arrive in 6@C, though|pg|| nt|Walddk3: With problems on a spade lead|pg|| nt|brolucius: Yes.|pg|| nt|ralfwil: can they make 1C after a @c lead? I doubt|pg|| nt|brolucius: This is the sort of board we were hoping for. No-one wants these matches to be decided on small margins after some drab boards.|pg|| nt|ralfwil: sry @s lead|pg|| nt|ralfwil: 6@c after a @s lead....|pg|| nt|peachy: In "real" championships, I think that is how it is done, these championships are open to anybody who wants enter from anywhere in the world, no qualification required|pg|| nt|danilo1: running scores now on: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswrunda3.html|pg|| nt|riccho: a matter of style and system if u open the N hand with 1@c 2@c or 3@c|pg|| nt|riccho: or even pass |pg|| nt|riccho: 3@c wouldn´t be my choice anyway|pg|| nt|jcomyn: i venture to say this was misplayed|pg|| nt|daman: good stuff for EW|pg|| nt|daman: N will open 4@H|pg|| nt|psyck: yes, N misread cards too, he must have had many chances including trying to endplay E when things were not going well|pg|| nt|barnets: only 9 now|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 2@C = 6+@C 10-15|pg|| mb|2C|nt|jcomyn: can it have a major?|pg|| mb|p|nt|brolucius: If one side wins after doing better on the big boards, then good luck to them - (even if they are not from England)|pg|| nt|murat: that was unexpected|pg|| nt|MolvaM: the contract went both ways during play and finally declarer came out as the winner|pg|| nt|paulg: Seeing your partner pass when you have a balanced zero count is never good|pg|| nt|petergill: Other table on Bd 7: East bid 2@S after 1@H P 2@C, so W led @S to 4@H|pg|| nt|barnets: par is 5@C X N/s|pg|| nt|bigtrain: meckwell require 6+@C for this bid in 1/2 seat|pg|| mb|2N|mb|d|nt|pelu: 34 HCP - I exp slam with most tables|pg|| nt|paulg: 1@s now from South?|pg|| nt|peachy: And teams can have members from any country = all transnational|pg|| nt|danilo1: 2@C precision style ... part of Polish @C system|pg|| nt|dburn: then, this match may be close to a tie after 7 and 8 are scored|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 2NT is either 1) weak raise|pg|| nt|barnets: south tries a psychic manouvre|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 2) non-fitting 5-5+ GF|pg|| nt|bigtrain: not a tactical bid... systemic|pg|| nt|barnets: oh ok |pg|| nt|bigtrain: 3@C is artificial|pg|| nt|jcomyn: what do they open with 6c+4-card major|pg|| mb|3C|nt|riccho: so a precision like 2@c opening here |pg|| mb|3S|nt|ralfwil: If declarer plays @d before havinc cleaned trumps, another @s will set up a trumph trick|pg|| nt|mamos: bidding challenge 3NT :@@)|pg|| mb|p|nt|brolucius: D'Ovidio has started well by emphasizing the diamonds before supporting clubs.|pg|| nt|granguru: NS has a score sheet we all like to bring to the comparison table...all NS scores|pg|| mb|4S|nt|Walddk3: 6@C in the closed room|pg|| nt|Walddk3: Waiting for the lead|pg|| nt|Walddk3: @SQ|pg|| nt|chmitty: 2NT forcing asking for clarifications|pg|| nt|jcomyn: what can ew make - d position pleasant|pg|| nt|suketbombi: please dont get upst with that 1@H bid it is a transer to @S|pg|| mb|p|nt|pelu: but not so easy to bid the Grand|pg|| nt|granguru: 7@D should be|pg|| nt|kiwibridge: 4@H may be too high|pg|| nt|psyck: :)|pg|| mb|p|nt|brolucius: Ouch!|pg|| nt|murat: would you also prefer 2@s ?|pg|| nt|pelu: now @SA and 2x@c = down 1|pg|| nt|mamos: cant see where tenth trick can come from as cards lie|pg|| nt|kiwibridge: esp after that lead|pg|| nt|mamos: can South be squeezed?|pg|| nt|psyck: in black suits?|pg|| nt|kiwibridge: now our match has the largest margin of the 4|pg|| nt|psyck: maybe, if so @d lead would have killed the squeeze|pg|| nt|psyck: yes, that 4NT may prove the decisive deal|pg|| nt|bigtrain: they open 2@C regardless of the major holding as long as the clubs are the primary suit -- evem 6-7|pg|| mb|p|nt|brolucius: Imagine winning the board with 3NT.|pg|| nt|brolucius: A spade lead would not beat 3NT if clubs were 3-2.|pg|| nt|brolucius: not beat 6@C, I mean|pg|| nt|dburn: a result with which both teams will be quite happy - it won't hurt either's chances for qualification|pg|| pc|c8|nt|ralfwil: true!|pg|| nt|paulg: tougher when you have not shown your 5-card support for partner|pg|| nt|jcomyn: tx|pg|| nt|barnets: 5@C is 500 no big deal|pg|| pc|c4|nt|pelu: roller-coaster :)|pg|| pc|cA|nt|MolvaM: this is interesting|pg|| nt|murat: Tokay should work some |pg|| nt|MolvaM: has to keep south out|pg|| nt|riccho: to duck wont help here|pg|| pc|c6|pg|| nt|granguru: Even if that doesnt mean anything, usually it is a good sign...|pg|| nt|chmitty: Lauria could hold : Kx KQ10xxx x Kxxx whixh would produce an excellent slam|pg|| pc|hA|nt|peachy: Declarer does not know how hearts sit so he might duck one, but as it is, does not matter|pg|| nt|riccho: or?|pg|| nt|riccho: it helps: decl can develop 3 tricks in @s|pg|| nt|pelu: not DD but in practic play|pg|| pc|hK|nt|jcomyn: bidding on bd 18 has taken off to 4nt already|pg|| nt|petergill: If NS can lock declarer out of dummy, 3@H will fail|pg|| pc|h2|nt|pelu: would u X in West or bid 2Nt?|pg|| nt|paulg: i would have started with 2@d (inverted) personally, even if showing your 4-card major first seems to be growing in popularity|pg|| nt|daman: it isn't so much what they can make can they reasonably bid over the 4@H opening?|pg|| pc|h5|pg|| nt|peachy: running scores http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/orrrunda4.html|pg|| nt|rcerreto: la fai o non la fai la cue di x nel colore del compagno?|pg|| nt|rcerreto: sorry|pg|| nt|chmitty: :)|pg|| nt|peachy: Once all matches a completed, standings in each group will be here http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/orrleaderb.html|pg|| nt|chmitty: Lauria considering his options in case @h are 4-1|pg|| nt|peachy: there are 15 groups of 8 teams each|pg|| nt|chmitty: only danger to consider|pg|| nt|chmitty: ha can : a) play Ace @h and @h or b) play small @h to retain an extra entry in dummy or c) unblock @s ace and run Q @h|pg|| nt|jcomyn: no of course not unless someone doubles|pg|| nt|runnerup: go down |pg|| nt|dburn: they can do that all right - but a shift to @c9 might have been a trick more effective|pg|| nt|danilo1: @S back cannot cost|pg|| nt|runnerup: hand that is but club overruff comes anyway i think|pg|| nt|danilo1: lol :)|pg|| nt|danilo1: srry, private|pg|| nt|runnerup: south sees dummy -so i cant understand any but @s |pg|| nt|petergill: I think 27 teams qualify from Swiss A (i.e. this Section) and 5 from Swiss B, into the 28 board Knockout matches.|pg|| nt|danilo1: if @S and @S now ... Thk Giorgio will play on @HK doubleton|pg|| pc|c7|nt|pelu: but then u would mis a 4-4 fit in @H - pd could be 4-4-3-2|pg|| nt|danilo1: since @D bad ... declare cannot come to 9 trick on time .. before Nort enters with @SK 8if Cezary just continues @C)|pg|| nt|daman: correct|pg|| pc|cJ|nt|murat: dbl i guess|pg|| nt|pelu: for 100% 2NT|pg|| nt|MolvaM: I would bid 2nt|pg|| nt|pelu: 2NT = 16-19, D + 2Nt = 20+|pg|| pc|cK|nt|jcomyn: jassem may be lucky|pg|| nt|psyck: hmm|pg|| pc|s2|pg|| nt|pelu: but he can finess @H10|pg|| nt|psyck: t|pg|| nt|psyck: ok :)|pg|| nt|jcomyn: have to run folks but there are buckets of you there tx|pg|| pc|s3|nt|runnerup: 9 better|pg|| nt|sfranchino: @d to ace and play small @h finesse to 10|pg|| pc|s6|nt|MolvaM: whenever I double, lefty bids 4@h and pd bids 4@s with 4 cards|pg|| nt|danilo1: now made ... time for 3@S tricks|pg|| pc|sA|nt|chmitty: he has choosen option a) :)|pg|| nt|chmitty: and we can see he is still Ok because South is endplayed|pg|| pc|s8|pg|| nt|murat: i prefer 2NT with 15-17 |pg|| nt|murat: bad 18|pg|| nt|riccho: now he has 9 tricks in his bag |pg|| nt|danilo1: nice @C|pg|| pc|s4|nt|peachy: Doubledummy = seeing all four hands, ducking is wrong. Not seeing all four hands, it is a normal play|pg|| nt|kiwibridge: meant to say 3 earler, Monaco look safe|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|c2|pg|| nt|pelu: many play that 1@D - 2@D = no 4 card major|pg|| mc|10|nt|ntmon: EW could not X tor T/O w/o @S|pg|| nt|sfranchino: Q@h?|pg|| pg|| qx|o10|st||md|4SK973HT875DK5CT97,SAT8HAK2DQ83CK642,SQJ5HJ93D972CAQ85,S642HQ64DAJT64CJ3|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|mdgraham: 3NT not too bad - needs diamonds to play for five tricks|pg|| mb|2S!|mb|p|nt|jbgood: a normal game|pg|| nt|psyck: or @c well placed|pg|| mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3N|nt|jbgood: spade lead seems natural|pg|| nt|psyck: @c & @s rather|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c5|nt|jbgood: game made|pg|| nt|dburn: that may not be such a good idea|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c7|pc|c2|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h5|pc|hA|pc|h3|pg|| nt|dburn: but a spade wasn't completely safe either, of course|pg|| nt|jbgood: spade lead next door|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d7|pc|dJ|pc|dK|pg|| pc|c9|nt|dburn: auction next door denied majors in West at any rate|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c8|pc|c3|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c6|pc|cQ|pc|s2|pg|| pc|cA|pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|cK|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s6|mc|9|nt|psyck: yes, that was relatively easier maybe|pg|| pg|| qx|c10|st||md|4SK973HT875DK5CT97,SAT8HAK2DQ83CK642,SQJ5HJ93D972CAQ85,S642HQ64DAJT64CJ3|sv|b|nt|Walddk3: 12 IMPs not the end of the world at this point|pg|| nt|ralfwil: another slam|pg|| nt|brolucius: So, Allerton-Leslie will think that they may have had a very big board.|pg|| nt|pelu: same did N :)|pg|| nt|paulg: i would be bidding hearts on the next round|pg|| nt|granguru: I think it is the correct way |pg|| nt|pelu: yes and that would show @H-stopper and bad @ss|pg|| nt|pelu: the problem - at boprt tables was Ss bold @s-bid|pg|| nt|chmitty: last board for today|pg|| nt|daman: last board of this set now|pg|| nt|ntmon: hard to predict if -200 is a loss or a profit|pg|| nt|suketbombi: yes but 2 WRANGS dont make Right|pg|| nt|mamos: some possible excitement here|pg|| nt|kiwibridge: OR now 3 behind we'll have to wait and see|pg|| mb|p|nt|riccho: he might have tried to endplay N with @sA and another|pg|| nt|daman: maybe a push|pg|| nt|daman: or 3 IMPs to NS|pg|| nt|ntmon: agree|pg|| mb|p|nt|brolucius: A question of RKCB when the spade fit comes to light.|pg|| nt|ntmon: jassem lucky on 17 where 5@S went down, so gain for udertricks at both rooms|pg|| nt|jcomyn: push i say|pg|| nt|kiwibridge: mmm 6 card support |pg|| mb|1N|nt|MolvaM: for kibs who ask|pg|| nt|MolvaM: the other table scores are unreachable|pg|| nt|murat: Lavazza should get the comfortable lead|pg|| nt|MolvaM: but lavaza leads by a comfortable margin of approx 30 imps|pg|| nt|daman: I have to leave now see you for the next session and thanks|pg|| nt|suketbombi: wrong:)|pg|| nt|pelu: many would open in East|pg|| mb|p|nt|peachy: Thank you kibitzers, ope you enjoyed. And thank you for your active participation with comments and questions, we are all here ONLy for you.|pg|| mb|2C|an| |nt|ralfwil: 4@c from me as W|pg|| nt|Walddk3: So Zimmermann by 6 in a minute|pg|| nt|pelu: sory a solid win for Lawazza - my calculations (:)) 37-1|pg|| nt|chmitty: ty Raija :)@h|pg|| mb|p|nt|Walddk3: Multon won the diamond at trick 2 and paused for a while before he played another spade|pg|| nt|runnerup: close match again -partscore swing last board |pg|| nt|petergill: These two teams running 11th and 14th right now: ref http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswleaderb.html|pg|| mb|2D|nt|brolucius: E/W fighting bravely, but hard to imagine that it will be successfully.|pg|| nt|MolvaM: that looked like broadcasting a football match on radio :)|pg|| nt|ntmon: 2@D must have promised @S|pg|| nt|sfranchino: a nice gadgest very simple is use 1@h 2@h 9-11 3 trumps support with one bid u can solve all u problems and use 1nt forcing 1 round|pg|| nt|sfranchino: now he has a problem|pg|| nt|sfranchino: solved from 1@h 2@h |pg|| nt|pelu: do Ns play 4 card @H-opening?|pg|| nt|sfranchino: i dont know this i think no|pg|| mb|p|nt|pelu: a very normal way to bid on Ns hand|pg|| nt|paulg: I played Mahaffey on vugraph in last year's Rosenblum ... luckily Meckwell were in Nickell's team on that occasion|pg|| nt|pelu: do u know Raju? - or some spects?|pg|| mb|2N|nt|brolucius: All good pairs will know what to do after intervention over 4NT (in theory....)|pg|| nt|Walddk3: The Vriend team on their way to the final; 32-9 after a slam swing on board 23, like here|pg|| nt|peachy: Last hand now, thanks to our operator Michal for a great job! Also thanks to EBL for getting these great matches shown on BBO.|pg|| nt|peachy: Also thanks to our opearor for a great job!|pg|| nt|kiwibridge: good 4@D by Ventin|pg|| mb|p|nt|chmitty: it was a reasonnable 6@c slam here but that will be for another day :) SO enjoy your evening (day) and see you tomorrow|pg|| nt|barnets: n/s found save in 5@C in previous board|pg|| mb|3N|nt|murat: :)|pg|| nt|pelu: same contract in OR|pg|| nt|jcomyn: and will gain on 18 as well - odd|pg|| nt|suketbombi: no they play 2/1 as tutered by Eric Kokish|pg|| mb|p|nt|pelu: 10 tricks|pg|| nt|MolvaM: the open event at this stage consists of short matches of 10 boards|pg|| nt|MolvaM: so this is the last hand of the segment|pg|| nt|peachy: Kibitzers, you are the life of this party, appreciate all your comments and questions!|pg|| nt|dburn: not much in this, I guess - a club lead might beat 3NT, but I can't see why South would lead a club|pg|| nt|kiwibridge: Wrang gets 1 on 21|pg|| nt|psyck: I just checked, 4@h could indeed make double dummy by running all the trumps on non @d lead :)|pg|| mb|p|nt|paulg: I think 1NT as semi-forcing is quite popular, where North might pass 1NT?|pg|| nt|riccho: some work here for decl to deny 6 defensive tricks here|pg|| nt|ntmon: nice lead by Martens|pg|| mb|p|nt|jcomyn: hate that bidding - cant find a 4-4 s fit|pg|| nt|ntmon: would be a nice lead against 4@S if reached|pg|| nt|ntmon: another odd gain on 20 - on missinng the right contract?|pg|| nt|jcomyn: the world-wide disease - find some level of nt as soon as possible|pg|| nt|barnets: and east lead the @SA so it is likely only 2 down|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|Walddk3: The official site has a score of 30-27 in this match. Not easy to know what to believe|pg|| nt|brolucius: Cronier may fear a diamond ruff in 6@S, because he has offered the lower-scoring slam with excellent spade support.|pg|| nt|MolvaM: many thanks to our commentators peter lund, and murat anter|pg|| nt|MolvaM: and our operator michal |pg|| nt|bigtrain: never worry about saving at IMPs... it's a long term loser|pg|| nt|barnets: which is an 8 imp swing|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s3|nt|pelu: and 1Nt semiforcing? - I hate that "semi" partner pass when I like him to bid, and bid when i like him to pass - So I never play that concvention :)|pg|| pc|s8|pg|| nt|MolvaM: and our kibitzers|pg|| pc|sJ|nt|murat: my pleasure. thx everyone|pg|| nt|MolvaM: the next segment starts soon|pg|| nt|peachy: Round 3 scores http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/orrrunda3.html|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s7|nt|Walddk3: I trust our operators until proven wrong|pg|| nt|peachy: And to Pierre Schmidt and all commentators for volunteering their time and expertise.|pg|| pc|sA|pg|| nt|bigtrain: meckwell play semi-forcing... generally speaking meck passes all 5332s while eric bids on with 5332 maxs|pg|| pc|d3|nt|granguru: 1@D 1@H (2@S) 2N 4@D(RKCB) 4@H(3) 4@S(Q ask) 4N (noQ)5@C(cab) 5@H(2nd round) 7@D|pg|| pc|d2|nt|ntmon: a replacement for "Wilkosz" convention which is banned by WBF|pg|| nt|ntmon: thx to all - let's move to OR for the rest|pg|| nt|danilo1: Y |pg|| nt|ralfwil: last board in this segment and an easy 4@s with 10 tricks. thanks all and bye|pg|| nt|kiwibridge: Lavazza - Mahaffey still only 1 imp|pg|| pc|dT|nt|suketbombi: yes up to bad 12|pg|| nt|sfranchino: lol|pg|| pc|dK|pg|| nt|peachy: Finally, full vugraph schedule http://www.bridgebase.com/vugraph/schedule.php so you can make plans to stay glued to your screen for more :)|pg|| nt|suketbombi: yes you have a point venkatesh proabably had a 2@H bid but may have been more constructive i guess|pg|| nt|kiwibridge: must be tense there|pg|| nt|hajru: D finesse and down a few|pg|| pc|sK|nt|pelu: next match in 30 min|pg|| pc|sT|nt|dburn: careful play by Bach - Duboin was going to put in the @d8, so it was as well that North didn't let him|pg|| nt|sfranchino: 1@h 2@h 9-11 3 trumps support 1@h 2NT 9-11 4 trumps support 1@h-3@h bad 1@h 2x forcing game 1@h 1NT forcing limited to 10-11 so u can report to @h in a weak hand with support|pg|| nt|mamos: declarer will be able to eliminate before playing Spades here|pg|| nt|psyck: There are still enough boards for anything to happen in any of the matches|pg|| nt|kiwibridge: yes but the sands of time are running out|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s6|pg|| nt|riccho: typical safety play situation here in @s to lose only one trump trick|pg|| pc|s9|pc|c2|nt|runnerup: tx all again -good match a lot off nice boards to discuss|pg|| pc|h9|nt|bigtrain: there are 3 things that can happen when you save... and 2 of them are bad|pg|| pc|h4|pg|| nt|MolvaM: there are stars from each country|pg|| nt|MolvaM: including all europeans|pg|| nt|MolvaM: and the world champions from usa meckstroth rodwell too|pg|| nt|MolvaM: so just stay with us|pg|| nt|MolvaM: unofficial score is 37-1 lavazza|pg|| nt|MolvaM: but better check later with the website|pg|| nt|MolvaM: http://www.poznan2011.pl/results|pg|| nt|bigtrain: for instance here, 2@C generally shows 4+ for meck and 3+ for roddy :)|pg|| pc|cT|nt|paulg: interesting difference in styles|pg|| nt|paulg: I thought these top pairs/teams were supposed to simulate these situations and get a consensus|pg|| nt|pelu: how do they explai that on CC?|pg|| pc|c4|nt|danilo1: tk -1 ... opening @H trick to def |pg|| nt|riccho: but there are as usual other considerations to make as well|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|bigtrain: its a matter of style|pg|| nt|danilo1: now cash 2@C |pg|| pc|c3|pg|| pc|cA|nt|paulg: well, kokish at least|pg|| nt|bigtrain: note i said generally speaking|pg|| nt|pelu: but their opp sh have that information|pg|| nt|danilo1: Thanks all|pg|| pc|cJ|nt|peachy: bye now, come back for more in less than 30 minutes, Round 4|pg|| nt|petergill: Other table on Bd 9: Bocchi is in 2@S by North, which might or might not make|pg|| nt|mamos: well done |pg|| nt|kiwibridge: good line|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c6|pg|| mc|7|nt|pelu: general style = agreement = on CC|pg|| nt|bigtrain: they treat the 1NT as semi-forcing and announce it that way... what they do as individuals is just my observation|pg|| nt|barnets: the opps might bid 1 more and go down |pg|| nt|barnets: that is one|pg|| pg|| qx|o11|st||md|1SJ632HAKDJ854CAT5,S854HJ9DAQ7CKJ873,S9HQT6432DKT93CQ9,SAKQT7H875D62C642|sv|o|nt|dburn: this auction saw South with an opportunity to double 2@s that he didn't take - may have slightly influenced North's choice|pg|| nt|dburn: not that South had a double, of course, but straws in the wind...|pg|| mb|1D|nt|dslee: should be a big dampner for texan |pg|| mb|p|mb|1H|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2D|nt|dburn: on the contrary - should put them in their usual comfortable position of needing a huge comeback in the second half|pg|| mb|4D|nt|psyck: They managed down some 34 imps earlier this tourney :)|pg|| mb|p|nt|dslee: lets keep that as their strength for the time being - but I remember the warning CK :)|pg|| mb|5D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|alok_daga: wud 4hrts be more than 2 as he did not give a support xle?|pg|| pc|s8|nt|psyck: other table , the @d opening was nebulous , so they did not find their fit|pg|| nt|psyck: but may be too high here|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sK|pc|s2|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|cK|pc|c9|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cQ|pc|c4|pc|cT|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|h9|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d7|nt|jbgood: they do have an equally long fit in @hs though|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d2|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dA|pc|d9|pc|d6|pg|| nt|psyck: 4@h likely down too|pg|| nt|jbgood: would be better to find that a level lower|pg|| nt|dslee: I am wondering why Swar dint bid 4@H|pg|| pc|s5|pc|dT|pc|s7|pc|s3|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h7|pc|hA|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|c6|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c11|st||md|1SJ632HAKDJ854CAT5,S854HJ9DAQ7CKJ873,S9HQT6432DKT93CQ9,SAKQT7H875D62C642|sv|o|nt|brolucius: If North had played in 7@D, East would have been thankful for a bid of 4@C by West, as suggested by Ralf.|pg|| nt|Walddk3: The English pair bid the higher scoring slam on 24, 6@S|pg|| nt|suketbombi: the @H T will end his agony so 7 tricks to the happy man|pg|| nt|mamos: the play in the Open Teams has been exceptionally high standard - with some truly great players|pg|| nt|barnets: you might give away less a score that is 2|pg|| mb|1D|mb|p|nt|pelu: 2NT sh be GF - and then use Bergen with 6-8 (3@D), and 9-11 (3@c)|pg|| nt|bigtrain: thats a bit contrived but possible|pg|| mb|1H|mb|1S|nt|bigtrain: i can count on one hand the number of times thats happened to me in 30 years|pg|| mb|p|mb|3C|nt|brolucius: We have certainly been granted the big boards that we were demanding. That's good.|pg|| nt|kiwibridge: splinter|pg|| nt|mamos: This is tricky what's'the best contract NS?|pg|| nt|kiwibridge: is there one :)|pg|| nt|psyck: hmm, 2@h or 3@c for mere mortals, quite something to splinter for a minor which may not even be a suit|pg|| nt|hajru: I don't understand what declarer did open on board 9|pg|| mb|p|nt|pelu: 2NT 10+ give problems if opp bid on high level|pg|| nt|suketbombi: now you know why texan is billionaire even high cards are attracted toward him:)|pg|| mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Walddk3: 2 IMPs back|pg|| nt|brolucius: Premature for South to bid 3NT. Quite rightly, she asks for more information with 3@C.|pg|| nt|Walddk3: Could be 30-29|pg|| nt|pelu: but Bertheau in OR are not even millionaire :) same high cards :)|pg|| nt|sfranchino: 3@h 3@s was not cue bid?|pg|| nt|suketbombi: ask for the @H honor will bid 7@H in a flash|pg|| pc|hK|nt|sfranchino: he has also 10@h he can bid 8@h|pg|| nt|psyck: well sry, after 1@d opening, 2@c surely will be a suit i suppose|pg|| nt|mamos: 5@c is a fair contract which looks like failing|pg|| nt|kiwibridge: yes and 5@C looks a make|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h2|nt|kiwibridge: or not|pg|| nt|mamos: sorry Gary is correct |pg|| nt|psyck: 5@c should make indeed|pg|| nt|mamos: except? on Diamond lead|pg|| nt|psyck: oh, 2@d & a @c :(|pg|| pc|h5|pg|| nt|suketbombi: lol no just wants to know the @HK|pg|| nt|pelu: no only 7 with 2 H, can show A or K|pg|| nt|barnets: on 4 rounds of diamonds dec pitched his heart loser after the @SA lead|pg|| pc|d4|nt|brolucius: North has a hopeless hand for Blackwood and suggests a slam by cue-bidding his club control. A good bid.|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|pelu: 6@D = A or K, 6@C = Q|pg|| pc|dK|nt|pelu: if asking in S u can even show 5-6 card suit and no H|pg|| nt|suketbombi: only lead will take time |pg|| pc|d2|pg|| nt|sfranchino: against grand slam lead with trump i think is not never an error|pg|| nt|barnets: i think he should have ruffed high then gone just down 2|pg|| pc|dT|nt|brolucius: With her club honors wasted, South signed off.|pg|| nt|ralfwil: but looks like S downgraded her hand|pg|| nt|brolucius: North was never going to stop out of six once partner had bid 2@D and then agreed hearts.|pg|| nt|ralfwil: a @d lead is probably a killing lead|pg|| nt|mamos: wow|pg|| nt|kiwibridge: wow and 6 I don't fancy at all|pg|| nt|psyck: well, this will produce a more sure result :)|pg|| nt|mamos: Might E have doubled this ?|pg|| pc|d6|nt|ralfwil: with @d 3--3 and @dK on side....|pg|| nt|kiwibridge: 1 more to Wrang on 22|pg|| nt|psyck: N certainly overbid, he had described his hand & S chose to play in 5@c|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dA|pg|| nt|brolucius: A French kibitzer tells me that 5@C is exclusion Blackwood (club ace excluded). 5@H shows one such key-card.|pg|| nt|ralfwil: no hurry with discarding a @d|pg|| nt|brolucius: Another one says it is not. So, I will say no more on the matter.|pg|| nt|hajru: Yes, I see what he did, I'm not sure why he did this. |pg|| nt|hajru: winning the 1st @h and running @s looks obvious to me|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s9|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg|| pc|c2|nt|ralfwil: now a @d switch|pg|| nt|Walddk3: Game over after this board perhaps. The English pair stopped in 4NT|pg|| nt|ralfwil: the only way to test declarer|pg|| pc|cA|nt|ralfwil: E must have a fyll count on N|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c9|pg|| pc|hA|pc|hJ|pc|h3|pc|h7|pg|| pc|dJ|nt|Walddk3: Osborne made it too difficult on partner when he bid 3@C over Hinden's 2@D. He did not show his hearts before they reached the 4 level|pg|| nt|psyck: escapes @d ruff, but E is guarding red suits above dummy, so prayerless here|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d3|pc|s7|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s3|pc|s5|pc|h4|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c5|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h8|pc|sJ|pc|c7|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|o12|st||md|2ST932H84DKJT8CK85,SAQ7HT95D75CA9764,SJ864HAJ7DAQ6CJT3,SK5HKQ632D9432CQ2|sv|n|nt|dslee: not that it would had made, but a better probability|pg|| nt|jbgood: guess he knew prd only had 2@h at most - but they were good!|pg|| nt|psyck: 4@h could well make in practice though i guess, though it can be beaten|pg|| mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1H|nt|dslee: -ve x?|pg|| nt|mdgraham: 1@s or double?|pg|| mb|d|mb|1N|nt|psyck: 1@s is 4+ cards for me...|pg|| nt|dslee: with other two, clear -ve x|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|mdgraham: I have never understood why double here should be used to show four spades. What would South bid with xxx xxx KJ10x Kxx? |pg|| mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|dslee: one round pass for sure|pg|| pc|sT|nt|mdgraham: well, you could, but then advancer raises, and you don't know what to do|pg|| nt|jbgood: that is why quite a few bid 1 @s with your hand Mike, and double to show 4+|pg|| nt|mdgraham: still, it's a matter of style and personal philosophy|pg|| nt|mdgraham: that is certainly possible|pg|| pc|s7|nt|psyck: it is easier to just bid normally & ignore the intervention after 1minor opening|pg|| pc|s6|nt|jbgood: as all conventions and systems - the better one is the one you feel good with:)|pg|| pc|sK|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dT|pc|d5|pc|d6|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h5|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hK|pc|h8|pc|h9|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cK|nt|dslee: I just take a min off from the kibbers to welcome MBV - our top Indian tournament director, welcome MBV |pg|| pc|c4|pc|c3|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sQ|pc|s4|pc|s5|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s8|pc|d2|pc|s3|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|d8|pg|| nt|mdgraham: good spade return, that|pg|| pc|h6|pc|c8|pc|c7|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|h3|nt|jbgood: yes - really nice|pg|| pc|s9|pc|c6|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|cA|pc|cT|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|d9|pc|dK|pc|c9|pg|| pg|| qx|c12|st||md|2ST932H84DKJT8CK85,SAQ7HT95D75CA9764,SJ864HAJ7DAQ6CJT3,SK5HKQ632D9432CQ2|sv|n|nt|psyck: missed @d spots maybe, could go -1|pg|| nt|kiwibridge: we will see, could be costly|pg|| nt|hajru: On 10, N didnt find the S lead and declarer came home in 3N|pg|| mb|p|mb|1D|nt|kiwibridge: they may need another coffee at this point|pg|| nt|barnets: he led a club from AQxx a poor choice I think|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 2+|pg|| mb|1H|nt|kiwibridge: 1@S = minors I presume|pg|| nt|mamos: 5@c may be one down for small loss|pg|| nt|psyck: NS here may think it is very close & that what they gained on 16 would be lost previos board|pg|| mb|d|nt|bigtrain: X = exactly 4@S|pg|| nt|hajru: Yes, though I don't know what the 2@s bid showed|pg|| mb|1N|mb|2S|nt|brolucius: The diamond finesse was likely to work after the 2@C overcall on a Q-J high suit, so it would not be fair to describe it as a 'slam on a finesse'.|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|3H|nt|mamos: 4@h has play|pg|| nt|mamos: surely South will bid now after disappointment of previous board|pg|| nt|mamos: very tense final boards |pg|| nt|psyck: yes, previous two boards were swingy & so is this|pg|| nt|mamos: do you bid it do you make it lots of imps at stake|pg|| nt|kiwibridge: Lavazza Mahaffey still locked in mortal combat|pg|| nt|psyck: Wrang team finds 6@d sac on 24 other room!|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|psyck: that may fetch them 4 imps|pg|| mb|p|nt|suketbombi: a flat session till now it is like the boxing match testing eash other b4 you let loose:)|pg|| pc|sT|nt|pelu: ok coffee-board - 8 tricks :)|pg|| nt|pelu: they just tryed 2@S both ways - no succes - but else all very normal|pg|| nt|suketbombi: grand is a baby grand wud be bid with ease kinda grand where you 1510 on the score sheet in a club match|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s4|pc|sK|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d8|pc|d5|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hK|pc|h4|nt|mamos: At the end of this hand you won't even know if 140 or 170 is good or bad|pg|| pc|h5|pg|| nt|barnets: duck a club now|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dT|pc|d7|pc|d6|pg|| nt|psyck: if they play in 3N previos board, they may even move into lead :)|pg|| nt|kiwibridge: barring a catastrophe, Monaco A first to go through, on last, |pg|| nt|bigtrain: i think the defense has a response to any play by declarer|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h9|pc|hA|nt|kiwibridge: 24 up|pg|| pc|h2|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|s2|pc|hT|pg|| nt|barnets: tthe def have to play spade back|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s3|pc|sQ|nt|kiwibridge: it was 4|pg|| pc|s6|pg|| nt|psyck: It could be a tie again if the make 3N or 5@c on 25 other room now|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s8|pc|d4|pc|s9|pg|| nt|barnets: good def here|pg|| nt|barnets: down 1|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o13|st||md|3SAJTHKJT952DCQT72,SQ87H843D9643CK86,SK542H6DKJT52CAJ4,S963HAQ7DAQ87C953|sv|b|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|psyck: interesting, they could try to play in 3N or 4M here i guess|pg|| nt|dslee: My mind says, Swar will bid 4@H|pg|| mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|nt|psyck: 2@d some kind of xyz checkback probably|pg|| nt|dslee: yes|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|jbgood: gf|pg|| nt|jbgood: if xyz|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c2|nt|psyck: should make going after @h now|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cA|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h7|pc|h9|pc|h3|pg|| nt|psyck: def cannot even get their 4 tricks as W has no entry|pg|| pc|hT|nt|psyck: so if dec guesses @s, playing into safe hand, will make o/t|pg|| pc|h4|pc|d2|pc|hQ|pg|| nt|psyck: @c33 too|pg|| nt|psyck: so they may need to cash out after @hA knocked out|pg|| pc|d7|pc|sJ|pc|d9|pc|dT|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|s7|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h8|pc|s4|pc|hA|pg|| pc|dA|mc|10|pg|| qx|c13|st||md|3SAJTHKJT952DCQT72,SQ87H843D9643CK86,SK542H6DKJT52CAJ4,S963HAQ7DAQ87C953|sv|b|nt|kiwibridge: anyones guess this match now|pg|| mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|nt|kiwibridge: predict flat 3N here anyway|pg|| nt|mamos: 3NT looks playable|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|nt|psyck: and biddable|pg|| mb|2C|an| |nt|bigtrain: 2@C = artificial GF|pg|| mb|p|nt|brolucius: 1@H a transfer, so 2@H natural. Even when 1@H is natural, many pairs use 2@H as a natural bid over it.|pg|| mb|2D|nt|brolucius: You have plenty of other calls when you hold the unbid suits.|pg|| nt|buddyshah: Board 12 Result 1NN +2 150|pg|| nt|pelu: I can tell u: 8x 1510|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 2@D = 5+@D|pg|| mb|p|nt|kiwibridge: Mahaffey shot to11 lead with 2 to go|pg|| mb|2S|nt|vugraphplb: sorry for disconection|pg|| mb|p|mb|2N|nt|pelu: we have the low scoring match here : Bessis - NL White : 39- 8! and Monaco - Rosenthal 33-8, Mahaffey - Lavaza 22-19|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 2@s = @H rebid|pg|| mb|p|nt|kiwibridge: Monaco A confirmed 1st semi finalist by 15|pg|| nt|psyck: 4@sX on 25, so 'only' 7 imps instead of the 11 we were dreading|pg|| nt|hajru: That looks quite agressive considering their opening bids|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|nt|Walddk3: Board 25 scored now|pg|| nt|brolucius: Leslie appreciated that her partner might have been forced to bid 2@S on a doubleton. Indeed, he may have had methods to show 3 spades over 2@H. |pg|| nt|bigtrain: looks normal to me|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 64 with great spots|pg|| nt|bigtrain: how can he not GF|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|pelu: can defeat with @h10 backm @S to A and @h|pg|| pc|c9|nt|bigtrain: brb|pg|| nt|hajru: I don't know what his alternatives are but opposite a 10 count with 4@s and 5@d, I don't like my changes in any game|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c6|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|h6|nt|brolucius: Now declarer can work on the hearts.|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h3|pg|| nt|hajru: and yes, with the EW hands as they are, game is a good contract|pg|| pc|d7|nt|pelu: S did never find the defense - difficult, but not impossible|pg|| pc|c7|pc|d9|pc|dJ|pg|| nt|barnets: I am with walter here|pg|| nt|barnets: especially with these heart spots|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s9|pc|sT|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dK|pc|dA|nt|brolucius: Always a struggle after the diamond lead. Perhaps there was a chance but not now. |pg|| nt|brolucius: She could block the diamonds, set up the hearts and that would give her eight tricks. Still one more needed.|pg|| pc|h5|pg|| pc|c3|nt|ralfwil: as you said, david, a @h against dummy and go up with @dA|pg|| nt|ralfwil: and another @h|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c8|pc|c4|pg|| nt|barnets: the club pitch is not working for him|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|s5|pc|h7|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h8|pc|s2|pc|hQ|pg|| nt|bigtrain: back - didn't miss much looks like|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|barnets: down 1|pg|| mc|8|nt|hajru: well, N is about to go down, N at the other table made 3N|pg|| nt|hajru: Good for the match|pg|| pg|| qx|o14|st||md|4SAKJT4HDT5CQT9764,S987HKQT74D972CA5,S63HJ82DQ863CKJ83,SQ52HA9653DAKJ4C2|sv|o|mb|1H|nt|mdgraham: this one will get competitive|pg|| mb|2H|nt|psyck: fun hand, NS should find 5@c sac aginst 4@h|pg|| nt|jbgood: 4@h cold even with a spade ruff, so 5@c a good save|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|nt|psyck: wasnt easy for N to try 4N as pd may have @d in which case he has a defensive hand & also not a vul game for opps|pg|| nt|mdgraham: North not interested at the vulnerability, and South has said his piece really|pg|| mb|4N|mb|p|nt|mdgraham: but double is a good effort|pg|| mb|5C|mb|p|mb|p|nt|psyck: yes, Souths suits too good for him to keep quiet|pg|| mb|p|nt|mdgraham: might not work opposite xx Jxxx Qxxxx xx, of course |pg|| nt|psyck: opps do not bother to x as opps nv & they do not see them going too much down on this bidding|pg|| pc|d2|nt|psyck: wow, 3N went down last deal other table, Keyzad Anklesaria did well not to play @cK 1st trick|pg|| nt|psyck: & Rodwell misguessed...|pg|| nt|dslee: cool- texans are pulling up|pg|| nt|dslee: thanks to all the kibs and the VG organizers - this is the last deal of this set. |pg|| nt|jbgood: last half due to start in 35 mins - so long|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dJ|pc|d5|pg|| pc|hA|pc|c6|pc|h4|pc|h2|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c2|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d6|pc|dK|pc|dT|pg|| nt|mdgraham: thanks all|pg|| mc|10|nt|psyck: Last deal. Thanks to my co-commentators Mike & DS. Good job operator. Thanks to the kibs for joining us here & for their inputs.|pg|| nt|psyck: Next set in 30 mins|pg|| nt|psyck: Thanks to David Burn too :)|pg|| nt|Walddk2: shut down pls operator|pg|| pg|| qx|c14|st||md|4SAKJT4HDT5CQT9764,S987HKQT74D972CA5,S63HJ82DQ863CKJ83,SQ52HA9653DAKJ4C2|sv|o|nt|mamos: one last swingy board |pg|| nt|hajru: Last board for this session. Back in about 35 minutes|pg|| mb|1H|nt|pelu: u have the hard work, Michal, we just sit and wait, np|pg|| mb|2H|an| |nt|suketbombi: :):) |pg|| mb|2S|nt|psyck: Last deal here. Thanks to my co-commentators Mike & Gary. Good job operator. Thanks to the kibs for joining us here & for their inputs.|pg|| nt|bigtrain: michaels - 5-5+ any strength|pg|| nt|barnets: 5@C X-1 is par|pg|| mb|2N|nt|hajru: running scores in all matches at http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg|| mb|d|nt|brolucius: A man who can open a duff 10-count can raise to 3NT on 9.|pg|| nt|psyck: Running Scores: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oqfrunda1.html|pg|| nt|psyck: Main Tourney website: http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg|| nt|kiwibridge: thanks Mike, Krishna, Buddy, operator and audience for a thrilling match|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 4@S probably -1 also|pg|| mb|4C|mb|4H|mb|5C|mb|5D|nt|pelu: India in 4@H - a fair contract, but no chance with @hs 5-0|pg|| nt|mamos: absolutely the match very much in the balance|pg|| mb|p|mb|5H|nt|suketbombi: needs both aces right lucky that the only ace with West is the @HA|pg|| nt|mamos: Ty Michal|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|kiwibridge: it was 7, and a possible game on the next, enthralling stuff|pg|| mb|p|nt|brolucius: No doubt it is only worth 2NT, in truth, with no honours in the four-card suit. |pg|| nt|psyck: Couldn't ask for more from the last few deals indeed, all fans of both teams keeping their fingers crossed :)|pg|| nt|mamos: one off if they cash |pg|| pc|sK|nt|barnets: so north bid 5@C as a save and they bid one more walter|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s6|pc|s2|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s8|nt|brolucius: I was perhaps forgetting that they play 14-16 NT. |pg|| pc|s3|pc|s5|pg|| nt|brolucius: West did not open on the 10-count at the other table, and N/S then shut them out for two down NV in 2@H. But more IMPs away, since 3NT failed.|pg|| nt|brolucius: So, the match has drifted away from the gallant Badger team. Well, I think they have played excellently and I salute their triumph in reaching the semi-finals. Well done, indeed!|pg|| nt|bigtrain: thts true... of course the number against me still stands at <5 :)|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s9|pc|h2|pc|sQ|pg|| nt|brolucius: The stuffing was knocked out of them in this second half by the events on the two 'slam hands'. Of course, it might have gone differently but that's bridge. |pg|| nt|ralfwil: ladt board and the french team is in the final (well deserved). sry for your friends David|pg|| nt|psyck: OK, time to move to open room to see how it ends...bye folks.|pg|| nt|kiwibridge: Mahaffey through by 13|pg|| nt|barnets: i think you are exceptionally unlucky|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c2|nt|pelu: some chance in 4@H after @H-lead cand play 3x @C and discard both @s-losers - still problem in @D|pg|| pc|c4|nt|mamos: bye all off to the Or for the last three boards|pg|| pc|cA|pg|| nt|kiwibridge: thanks again Michal and viewers|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h8|pc|h3|pc|c6|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pc|c7|pg|| nt|ralfwil: thanks all and see you tomorrow on BBO|pg|| pc|dA|nt|brolucius: Congratulations to the French Team and we wish them well in the final, which will make excellent viewing. Many thanks once again to BBO for allowing us to watch these great ...|pg|| nt|brolucius: championships free of charge. |pg|| pc|d5|pc|d2|pc|d3|pg|| pc|h6|pc|sT|nt|bigtrain: when the opening lead shows the Ace-King meckwell revert to standard signals|pg|| pc|hT|pc|c3|pg|| nt|ralfwil: bye for now!|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d8|nt|brolucius: Many thanks, too, to our excellent operator. Where would we be without their expertise. Indeed it was so much to the fore on this occasion (not a single error) that I forgot that ...|pg|| nt|brolucius: we had an operator. There is no greater praise. Well done!|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dT|pg|| nt|barnets: a spec suggests east should bid 3@D lead director|pg|| nt|bigtrain: for that single trick|pg|| mc|10|nt|barnets: then could x 5@C|pg|| nt|hajru: Ok, thanks to our operator, we'll see you in 30 minutes for the second half|pg|| pg||