vg|D EC 2011 Open Teams 32 _,2_2,I,15,28,Mahaffey,28,Netherlands Juniors,19|
rs|4SNx+1,4SNx+1,3NN=,4SN-1,3DW-1,2HN+1,6CE-1,3NW+2,2DN=,1NS=,4HN+1,4HN-1,4NN-2,3NS-1,4HW+3,4HE+2,5HS+1,4SEx-1,1NS+2,3NN-1,4SS+1,4SS=,3NS+1,1NE-4,4SS-1,5DEx-2,5SW-1,4SWx=|
pn|Meckstroth,Lankveld,Rodwell,Bos,Wackwitz,Lev,Stuurman,Pszczola|pg||
qx|o15|st||md|1S53HA8D985CQJ8742,SHJT965DKQ632CKT6,SAQJT87642HK72DTC,SK9HQ43DAJ74CA953|sv|n|mb|p|nt|ady: good morning all|pg||
mb|2H|mb|4S|nt|daman: Welcome everyone|pg||
nt|bigtrain: hi george|pg||
nt|ady: west opening I believe shows hearta and a minor 5-5|pg||
mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ady: east likely to take some action|pg||
pc|h3|nt|daman: Hi Walter|pg||
nt|vugraphpl5: hello everyone|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h2|pg||
pc|s3|nt|daman: Hi Joanna   and good luck to you|pg||
nt|ady: as kib pointed out  took the worst action    but cant really be blamed|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|c15|st||md|1S53HA8D985CQJ8742,SHJT965DKQ632CKT6,SAQJT87642HK72DTC,SK9HQ43DAJ74CA953|sv|n|nt|blum1956: hi all|pg||
nt|hedyg: good afternoon and welcome back to the 5th European Open Championships, Poznan, Poland. A Swiss teams ,Round 5/7, 10 boards / round|pg||
nt|jfaria:  hi all|pg||
mb|p|nt|roswolf: std pre-empt|pg||
nt|hedyg: great!|pg||
mb|2H|nt|hedyg: good morning and welcome back to the 5th European Open Championships, Poznan, Poland. A Swiss teams ,Round 4/7, 10 boards / round|pg||
nt|hedyg: welcome Geoffrey Wolfarth |pg||
nt|glen: hi Hedy, Geoffrey|pg||
nt|hedyg: and Glen :)|pg||
nt|roswolf: hello:)|pg||
nt|roswolf: action bd to start|pg||
nt|3for3: Hi all|pg||
nt|jcomyn: what a horrible 2d|pg||
nt|rmb1: Hi and we are off|pg||
mb|4S|nt|jfaria:  hi John, they are jrs :)|pg||
nt|jcomyn: I really hate that weak 2d system it is pointless|pg||
nt|jcomyn: hi joao - well thats one reason but they shouldnt learn bad habits early|pg||
nt|panja: hi all|pg||
mb|d|nt|hedyg: our operator is Tadeusz|pg||
nt|roswolf: hi all|pg||
nt|hedyg: welcome Geoffrey Wolfarth |pg||
nt|hedyg: hi Danny :) ty for joining!|pg||
nt|roswolf: hi danny|pg||
nt|3for3: 4|pg||
nt|jfaria:  Meckstroth playing 4@s x in open room|pg||
nt|rmb1: Interesting shape for 2|pg||
nt|rmb1: @H|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|hedyg: good afternoon and welcome back to the 5th European Open Championships, Poznan, Poland. A Swiss teams ,Round 6/7, 10 boards / round|pg||
nt|hedyg: our operator is Tadeusz|pg||
nt|hedyg: welcome Geoffrey Wolfarth |pg||
nt|roswolf: hi all|pg||
nt|hedyg: http://www.bbotv.com/vugraph/ for BBO TV since BBO mobile is not working|pg||
mb|p|nt|roswolf: :)gm hedy|pg||
nt|hedyg: our operator is Tadeusz|pg||
nt|granguru:  hi all|pg||
nt|granguru:  hi hedy|pg||
nt|glen: what should S lead?|pg||
pc|h3|nt|ntmon: hi to everyone|pg||
nt|MolvaM: hello all|pg||
nt|hedyg: hi John|pg||
nt|glen: hi Murat :)|pg||
nt|MolvaM: hi Hedy, John|pg||
nt|MolvaM: hi Glen|pg||
nt|hedyg: Murat :)|pg||
nt|roswolf: hi everyone|pg||
nt|glen: S attacks the 6-5 suit|pg||
nt|glen: only 6 stoppers since suit splits|pg||
nt|granguru:  I feel Jxxx is the worst lead to make in a 3NT contract|pg||
nt|hedyg: http://www.bbotv.com/vugraph/ for BBO TV since BBO mobile is not working|pg||
nt|panja: if it is 5-5 per system, E should perhaps have tried to play in 5m|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h5|nt|jcomyn: that seems daft with 5h makeable|pg||
nt|jfaria:  first board... W stood quiet|pg||
nt|jcomyn: do u bid 4nt w?|pg||
pc|h2|pg||
nt|blum1956: 5 nj 6 tricks probably|pg||
nt|roswolf: normal contract|pg||
nt|hedyg: i feel 4th from longest and strongest works best except from an ace|pg||
nt|3for3: 4@C will find hearts, but at the cost of being too high.  Meck likeds the double fit potential|pg||
pc|s3|nt|roswolf: a very sharp double|pg||
nt|hedyg: system summary for EW: http://usbf.org/index2.php?option=com_teamforms&task=display&pop=1&page=0&fid=763&pid=193|pg||
nt|dburn: that was pretty well judged by East|pg||
nt|roswolf: seems pretty normal bur the play is the thing|pg||
nt|hedyg: fficial website is : http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg||
nt|roswolf: yes david - pity he is still anonymous|pg||
nt|hedyg: http://www.bbotv.com/vugraph/ for BBO TV since BBO mobile is not working|pg||
nt|3for3: obvious singleton lead.|pg||
pc|h6|pc|sA|nt|granguru:  partner must have around 8 points so my first choice is @d10 then a small @C|pg||
pc|s9|pg||
nt|ntmon: Open teams, 3rd round of Swiss just started|pg||
nt|athene: hi good morning everyone|pg||
nt|roswolf: always lead a major against this bidding :) mind you i would have led a spade:(|pg||
nt|dburn: mind you, he may wish he had a spade higher than the eight|pg||
nt|jfaria:  chances are to play for A@c onside ...|pg||
pc|s2|nt|hedyg: and i strongly dislike leading from a doubleton if pd didnt bid the suit|pg||
nt|glen: small @C would produce -400|pg||
pc|sK|nt|hedyg: BBO mobile is still not working so pls use: http://www.bbotv.com/vugraph/|pg||
nt|hedyg: hi Bill|pg||
nt|roswolf: hi bill|pg||
nt|roswolf: north thinks safety first|pg||
pc|s5|nt|blum1956: 5 to 6|pg||
pc|d2|pg||
mc|11|nt|roswolf: so we would have all let this through:)|pg||
nt|hedyg: results and running scores: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswleaderb.html|pg||
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qx|o16|st||md|2SQJ2HQ976DA4CA875,SKT7HJT53DT7CKT92,SA854HK84DK95CQJ6,S963HA2DQJ8632C43|sv|e|nt|daman: just the overtrick to begin|pg||
nt|ady: big score for Rod-Meck to start|pg||
nt|bigtrain: push already recorded|pg||
nt|vugraphpl5: running scores http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/or32runda1.html|pg||
mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|nt|bigtrain: not a surprise that it waqs dup0kicated|pg||
nt|daman: there are no guarantees over the 2@H opening   he shouldn't try to convert +50 to +100|pg||
mb|1H|nt|ady: exactly same auction  and result in CR|pg||
mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|bigtrain: 1@D = 2+ 10-15|pg||
mb|2C!|mb|p|mb|2H|nt|bigtrain: 2@C = artificial GF|pg||
mb|p|nt|ady: n/s heading for 3NT|pg||
mb|2S!|mb|p|mb|2N|nt|bigtrain: 2@H = 3@H|pg||
mb|p|nt|ady: not plain sailing|pg||
mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|bigtrain: 2@S = asking w/o a spade fit|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 2NT = balancede|pg||
pc|d6|nt|ady: better played by south   more likely a more friendly lead|pg||
nt|bigtrain: probably scrambles home with 9 tricks|pg||
nt|ady: can certainly  male    but will need to duck 1st diamond|pg||
nt|ady: then play up to QJ6 clubs   and then up to QJ2 spades seems best|pg||
nt|ady: fortunate diamonds 6-2|pg||
pc|d4|pc|dT|pc|d5|pg||
nt|ady: unlikely to find the winning play to score more than 1 heart trick   but 1  heat trick may be enough if  6 black suit tricks are made|pg||
nt|daman: not an easy hand|pg||
nt|ady: for sure it is not|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cQ|pc|c4|pc|c5|pg||
nt|bigtrain: smooth sailing from here|pg||
nt|ady: west has decided on club switch|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s3|pc|sQ|nt|ady: has given Rodwell less worry    probably knows on the defence diamonds are 6-2|pg||
nt|daman: well on his way to making now|pg||
pc|sK|pg||
nt|ady: spade back now best  and if low club  then 3rd spade    may be a communication problem|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c6|pc|c3|pc|cA|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h3|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg||
nt|ady: west was playing for QJ stiff in clubs   |pg||
pc|h2|pc|h7|pc|hJ|pc|h4|pg||
nt|ady: east should have given count on the club suit  when first played|pg||
nt|bigtrain: nice @H back...  prevents an overtrick on a crisscross squeeze|pg||
pc|cT|pc|cJ|pc|d2|pc|c7|pg||
pc|d9|pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|d7|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s7|pc|s4|pc|s6|pg||
pc|s2|pc|sT|pc|sA|pc|s9|pg||
nt|bigtrain: potential overtrick i should say :)|pg||
pc|s8|mc|9|pg||
qx|c16|st||md|2SQJ2HQ976DA4CA875,SKT7HJT53DT7CKT92,SA854HK84DK95CQJ6,S963HA2DQJ8632C43|sv|e|nt|hedyg: 3@H X in OR|pg||
nt|granguru:  declarer saved 2 potential tricks|pg||
nt|hedyg: E thinking, has not passed yet|pg||
nt|hedyg: results and running scores: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswrunda6.html|pg||
nt|jfaria:  well bellow 50% :)|pg||
nt|jcomyn: of course|pg||
nt|jcomyn: n might get excited here|pg||
mb|p|nt|hedyg: EW CC: http://www.ecatsbridge.org/documents/files/ConventionCards/2010Ostend-european/OpenTeams/israel/ronpa-gino.pdf|pg||
nt|hedyg: and EW landed in 5@d|pg||
mb|1C|an| |nt|ntmon: @S partscore to EW|pg||
nt|MolvaM: 27+5 = 32 teams will qualify for the knockouts. members of the eliminated teams can enjoy the open pairs event starting tomorrow|pg||
nt|dburn: but this match will be fast - both teams are sure to qualify, there is no carry-over, so they will save their energies for the knock-out stages|pg||
nt|hedyg: NS CC: http://www.ecatsbridge.org/documents/files/ConventionCards/2009BermudaBowlBrazil/bermudabowl/usa2/meckstroth-rodwell.pdf|pg||
nt|jcomyn: not now he wont|pg||
nt|panja: this must have gone too fast to record|pg||
mb|1D|nt|hedyg: NS CC: http://www.ecatsbridge.org/documents/files/ConventionCards/2010Ostend-european/OpenTeams/italy/bocchi-madala.pdf|pg||
nt|roswolf: is that supposed to be a rubbish multi?|pg||
nt|hedyg: 2@d= multi, 2M= 10-13|pg||
nt|roswolf: rdbl =diamonds?|pg||
nt|hedyg: so this is max 9 hcps|pg||
nt|dburn: well, rubbish is as rubbish goes - that's pretty sound, not vulnerable in first seat|pg||
nt|hedyg: i never consider a 6-4 hand as rubbish anyhow|pg||
nt|roswolf: ok bid your suit is the consensus for rdbl|pg||
nt|hedyg: pass would show @ds, not XX|pg||
nt|dburn: but I would be surprised to find that redouble showed diamonds|pg||
nt|dburn: some play that redoubled means "I don't want to compete" - they would bid 2@s to mean "I want to compete in hearts, but not spades"|pg||
nt|roswolf: americans have a marked weakness against the multi -i t is extremely discouraged in the state|pg||
nt|3for3: that is how we play the redouble.  not sure it is best. since they are often in trouble when they enter with balanced garbage|pg||
nt|hedyg: there is no carryover to the round of 32|pg||
nt|roswolf: you would hope meckwell at least have sensible methods|pg||
nt|3for3: they do play sensible methods.  but doubling 2@D is not free, especially when the partner of the multi has some diamond length|pg||
nt|hedyg: to pass with @ds is normal i believe as E|pg||
nt|hedyg: with 6+ @ds|pg||
nt|roswolf: i would ignore the rdbl and bid 3@C SHOWING VALUES + clubs(going via leb would be weaker)|pg||
nt|3for3: meck usually isnt this slow|pg||
nt|roswolf: hmm is south choosing between 3@C OR 4@c?|pg||
nt|dburn: he may be asking questions of West, of course|pg||
mb|d|an| |mb|1N|nt|woozle: 6NT has chances with a spade lead - four spades, three hearts, three diamonds, one club and a squeeze on south|pg||
nt|jcomyn: but ns might get busy in h|pg||
nt|hedyg: EW CC: http://www.ecatsbridge.org/documents/files/ConventionCards/2010Ostend-european/OpenTeams/italy/duboin-sementa.pdf|pg||
nt|MolvaM: 2s was intermediate?|pg||
nt|hedyg: specs tell me XX used to be bid your major  for EW|pg||
nt|3for3: it might be west who is thinking, but i doubt it.|pg||
nt|3for3: usually these auctions are fairly automatic for the multi side.|pg||
nt|roswolf: i had assumed that rodwell's dbl showed 12-15 bal or very strong -does anyone know for sure?|pg||
nt|dburn: doesn't look as though redouble was diamonds, at any rate - West would have bid if it did|pg||
nt|3for3: i would bet with you |pg||
nt|hedyg: for sure|pg||
nt|jfaria:  Mahaffey probably thinks he conceeded a swing in previous board..|pg||
nt|jcomyn: as long as s passes|pg||
nt|rmb1: 2H was 5H + 5other|pg||
mb|p|nt|ntmon: but higher suit probably wins|pg||
nt|dburn: but 3@c was obviously value-showing, given North's 3NT|pg||
mb|2D|nt|woozle: Fiona Brown is very cautious with her barren 11|pg||
nt|roswolf: aggressive reopening by north|pg||
nt|panja: that 1Nt is a risk VUL|pg||
mb|d|an| |nt|MolvaM: 10-13 I am told ok|pg||
nt|roswolf: some may have doubled as east-t/o of course|pg||
nt|MolvaM: or 11-13 I am also told  :)|pg||
nt|roswolf: well 6@C here on ice|pg||
nt|hedyg: i have no CC for NS, soemthing between SEF and 2/1|pg||
nt|roswolf: 6nt from east cold as well|pg||
nt|panja: 5 other including @S?|pg||
mb|p|nt|jcomyn: not yet|pg||
nt|hedyg: lead 4th from longest!|pg||
nt|dburn: and I suppose he might make it, if East doesn't lead a diamond|pg||
nt|jfaria:  after N said he has got the blacks there is no great deal about bidding @c|pg||
mb|2H|nt|3for3: 3nt is reasonable spot. the diamond stopper looks weak, but as long as the clubs run, you just need AK@D in one hand or no @D lead|pg||
nt|hedyg: 9 tricks|pg||
nt|3for3: they got the latter...|pg||
mb|p|nt|ntmon: .. now :)|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Wikner/Kamras: http://www.svenskbridge.se/e107_files/tavling/deklarationer/AWJK1.pdf|pg||
mb|3D|an| |nt|roswolf: this may not play too well|pg||
mb|p|nt|rmb1: Yes, any other.  (But only in some events)|pg||
nt|panja: well, in that case, dbl must have been negative...and W should have taken out...or was the double penalty?|pg||
mb|3S|mb|p|nt|woozle: four rounds of spades now will put South through the wringer|pg||
nt|athene: bocchi knows his side has a fit - if opps have a 9-card fit you are guaranteed an 8-card fit at least - but that doesn't mean you will find it|pg||
nt|hedyg: some might bid 4@S with the W hand once he knows about 4 card support since he has no valid defense vs 4@H except the trumps|pg||
nt|roswolf: this can be defeated|pg||
nt|roswolf: the swedes on the first bd bid to 5@D for a game swing|pg||
nt|jcomyn: 3 bids on a 9 count now what|pg||
nt|panja: on B16, here, South is worried about @D control..|pg||
nt|panja: N should simply have bid 3Nt..but now, South is in a bind|pg||
mb|3N|mb|d|nt|blum1956: A player of the team which is in best 8 will hardly lead a spade against 6NT|pg||
nt|hedyg: ty Roland :)|pg||
nt|MolvaM: the bidding could well go 1@s-2@s-4@S at other tables|pg||
nt|roswolf: true|pg||
nt|roswolf: i have seen it said that at expert level you should never lead pard's major but lead your own suit and this hand is a good example of why|pg||
nt|panja: Lev trying to put pressure|pg||
nt|panja: the youngsters might just redbl...|pg||
mb|4H|nt|VugraphPLA: TD was called by Upmark|pg||
nt|hedyg: surely he called TD cause 3NT was bid after a longgggggg huddle by S|pg||
nt|3for3: does the slow bid demonstrably suggest 3nt by Rodwell?|pg||
nt|hedyg: the TD will decide that|pg||
nt|roswolf: in my view yes 3nt is much safer when pard huddles|pg||
nt|hedyg: in the mean time i had received some messages from kibs about the 3NT bid after a long huddle|pg||
nt|3for3: it may be safer.  but it needs to be DEMONSTRABLY suggested...the law's words, not mine|pg||
nt|roswolf: yes it again looks that americans cant deal with the multi:)|pg||
nt|dburn: no more than an in-tempo 3@c bid would, I imagine - but we are not the Director, of course|pg||
mb|p|nt|jcomyn: well who does win now|pg||
nt|athene: west's defensive plan is very easy|pg||
nt|athene: just play spades and spades and spades|pg||
nt|roswolf: indeed|pg||
nt|athene: and get your three trump tricks|pg||
nt|hedyg: Ilan Herbst went 2 off in OR|pg||
nt|athene: maybe south would be better-off to double 3@S rather than bid 4@H, if he feels he has to do something|pg||
nt|roswolf: i think only -1 is likely here|pg||
nt|roswolf: competenty done|pg||
nt|roswolf: now 13 tricks|pg||
nt|rmb1: Lev seems to expect more from 1@D than East will deliver|pg||
nt|rmb1: 4@H not very attractive for South (unless North had doubleton diamond)|pg||
nt|panja: it will be difficult to avoid 3 trump losers here...4@H doesn't look like a make|pg||
nt|rmb1: If anything, 4@S looks easier|pg||
mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|athene: 4@H should be a five-card suit in my opinion|pg||
pc|c4|nt|panja: NS seem to have similar cards in @H and @S...but @S are 33 in EW hands..so 4@S might have a modicum of a chance|pg||
nt|panja: @CK, @H ruff, a trump...what is the fourth possibility for the defenders?|pg||
nt|rmb1: @HA :)|pg||
nt|panja: oh well......if Declarer tries to prevent @C ruff, he can't ruff anything himself...|pg||
nt|panja: but he could get 3 Clubs, 3 Spades, 2 Diamonds, 2 Hearts for 10|pg||
pc|c5|nt|hedyg: he could not do that after his pd doubled 3@S, Bill|pg||
nt|jcomyn: CQ and H|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c6|pg||
nt|ntmon: it's probable that EW will come to 4@S on many tables either on its own or pushed, but not doubled |pg||
nt|athene: no i mean in the other room|pg||
nt|hedyg: but that would be for minors, denying 4@Hs|pg||
nt|hedyg: it is rare that pd, when he doubles 1@s, does not have 4 cards in @H|pg||
nt|roswolf: not so rare these days for the top players|pg||
nt|hedyg: we all assume pd has 4 OM when he doubles a M opening|pg||
nt|roswolf: that is true enough|pg||
nt|jfaria:  think E could antecipate some kind of misfit...|pg||
pc|c9|pc|cQ|nt|jcomyn: but why does w keep bidding when he knows big hand on nhis left|pg||
pc|c3|nt|woozle: probably not, but leading from a nothing suit isn't completely safe either - can easily pick up (say) partner's queen|pg||
nt|hedyg: nobody is very worried about the overtrick|pg||
pc|c7|pg||
nt|jcomyn: levazza mean business by the looks of things|pg||
nt|jfaria:  9 tricks is quite a bit in this layout|pg||
nt|panja: I thought @CK was not a good choice....for West|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d6|nt|roswolf: ace and another trump lookes obvious as he wasnt in 4|pg||
nt|glen: should declarer have played @S ace then @s|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d7|pg||
nt|hedyg: :)|pg||
nt|athene: i think doubling just says you don't have the offensive potential in hearts to commit to bidding 4 over 3|pg||
nt|roswolf: this is not good for south|pg||
nt|roswolf: fair comment bill|pg||
nt|athene: so you  can still have auctions like 1@S X 3@S X pass 4minor pass 4@H|pg||
nt|athene: saying ok, we might want to play here, but we don't have to|pg||
nt|roswolf: running scores: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswleaderb.html|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|MolvaM: greed?|pg||
nt|roswolf: hmm an error by south|pg||
nt|roswolf: yup|pg||
nt|MolvaM: actually he should want the @sK to be offside|pg||
pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s3|pg||
nt|panja: it might still make....unless @HQ entry is knocked out.So W must win @S, and switch to @HJ perhaps..let us see|pg||
nt|rmb1: Looks like two trumps for defence|pg||
nt|panja: no..@SJ and back next..that should be normal now|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s6|nt|jcomyn: he will get what he deserved|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|Walddk6: Welcome to Martin Carroll|pg||
pc|s7|pg||
pc|h6|pc|hJ|pc|hK|nt|mcarroll: Hi all|pg||
nt|athene: nice line, trying to make|pg||
pc|hA|pg||
nt|rmb1: Too many red suit losers|pg||
nt|panja: but for North's refusal to bid 2Nt..this deal would have been over long ago|pg||
nt|rmb1: Board 15 was flat in 4@SX+1 on the same auction|pg||
pc|h2|nt|athene: playing for @CJx onside|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h3|pc|h4|pg||
pc|s2|pc|sT|pc|s5|nt|athene: and even trump break|pg||
pc|s9|pg||
nt|rmb1: Apparently, West needed to play a @D at trick 2 to threaten a diamond overruff and North needed to play a small @H at trick 3 to establish 2 @H tricks|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cJ|pc|d2|pc|c8|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d3|nt|roswolf: good try|pg||
pc|d4|pc|dT|pg||
pc|h8|pc|d8|pc|h9|pc|hT|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|o17|st||md|3S9752H96D97CA8632,S3HJT7DKQT63CQ954,SKT4HAK8532DA52CK,SAQJ86HQ4DJ84CJT7|sv|o|mb|1C!|mb|1S|nt|bigtrain: 1@C = 16+ many shapes|pg||
nt|ady: part scorer hand|pg||
mb|p|nt|bigtrain: Pass = 0-5|pg||
mb|2D|mb|2H|mb|3D|nt|ady: already overboard|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|h9|pc|h7|pg||
nt|bigtrain: meckwell play standard signals on that trick|pg||
nt|ady: migh make this  by finessing spade and setting up spades   |pg||
pc|cK|pc|c7|pc|c2|pc|cQ|pg||
pc|hA|pc|hQ|pc|h6|pc|hT|pg||
pc|h8|nt|ady: too difficult for Med to overtake and give club ruff|pg||
nt|ady: 3rd heart has scuppered that|pg||
nt|bigtrain: he can't make it from here|pg||
nt|ady: no will have to ruff high  to keep to down 1|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|c3|pc|hJ|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d7|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d8|pc|d9|pc|dT|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d5|pc|s6|pc|c6|pg||
pc|c4|pc|h2|pc|cT|pc|cA|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|c17|st||md|3S9752H96D97CA8632,S3HJT7DKQT63CQ954,SKT4HAK8532DA52CK,SAQJ86HQ4DJ84CJT7|sv|o|nt|roswolf: agreed since he was in 3|pg||
nt|MolvaM: so that 4@s wont make|pg||
nt|jfaria:  500 for nothing|pg||
nt|jcomyn: 500 for bidding like a novice|pg||
nt|jcomyn: 1nt by somebody|pg||
mb|1H|mb|1S|nt|woozle: Brown has an exciting hand but best defense can beat 4S|pg||
nt|roswolf: an imp is an imp is an imp so said a great player once|pg||
nt|hedyg: the official site is: http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg||
nt|rmb1: 10IMP to Mahaffey against 3NT= in OR|pg||
mb|p|nt|mcarroll: This will certainly see Major suit action|pg||
nt|roswolf: i believe you danny|pg||
nt|jfaria:  11 facing 11|pg||
mb|1N|nt|ntmon: 4@S now by NS|pg||
nt|jcomyn: will they get to 6|pg||
nt|roswolf: 4@H is normal here|pg||
nt|roswolf: another transfer|pg||
nt|jcomyn: passed out in the club but not here|pg||
nt|jfaria:  one of the most misguidding combination|pg||
mb|2H|nt|roswolf: anothr transfer|pg||
nt|jcomyn: usually leads to trouble|pg||
mb|p|nt|roswolf: might inhibit the nat @H overcall by east |pg||
nt|3for3: 2@H reverse flannery|pg||
mb|p|nt|woozle: South's 2D looks competitively inadequate, not that it matters much here|pg||
nt|jcomyn: tempting|pg||
nt|jfaria:  here with the light open after S has passed|pg||
mb|p|pc|cJ|pc|c2|nt|blum1956: Probably it is a @h raise|pg||
nt|roswolf: may be showing 3@H support - the transfer shows 4+ in hearts|pg||
pc|c5|nt|roswolf: i would lead a club|pg||
nt|roswolf: the @SQ is looking for a brillancy prize|pg||
pc|cK|pg||
nt|roswolf: but it depends on what double by eric showed - if a weak nt then it may well be assuming a club fit - but we must remember that defence could have defeated it|pg||
nt|hedyg: 2@H not alerted?|pg||
nt|wstuart: sleeping actually|pg||
pc|d2|nt|woozle: No doubt, and a toothpick is a weapon but it's not really adequate for a duel|pg||
nt|jcomyn: as u said - now whnat?|pg||
pc|d4|nt|jcomyn: but resisted|pg||
nt|roswolf: i am told 1@c-1@d-1@h=3@h unball,1nt=2/3@hball|pg||
nt|roswolf: another vul game bash|pg||
nt|hedyg: 1st we bid it, then we try to make it|pg||
pc|d9|nt|ntmon: S would need @D8 instead of @D7|pg||
nt|rmb1: 2 @C A@D @D ruff 5 @H  = +1|pg||
pc|dT|pg||
nt|jcomyn: has to be penlties but e not sure|pg||
pc|h7|nt|roswolf: yup|pg||
nt|roswolf: to try and set up hearts looks natural not that it will work|pg||
nt|hedyg: not enough transportation|pg||
nt|hedyg: and also the 3rd @s in the N hand|pg||
nt|roswolf: true but if 3-3 then enough|pg||
nt|hedyg: if there is a way Pepsi will find it|pg||
nt|roswolf: dd it is doomed i am told - looks it to me in practice as well|pg||
pc|hA|nt|jfaria:  N took 2nt as minors and really bid his p suit with 2 cards!!|pg||
pc|h4|nt|athene: this is a funny auction then - how did Bocchi know his partner had five hearts>|pg||
nt|jcomyn: early monday morning bridge|pg||
nt|jfaria:  revenge from prevous board?|pg||
nt|Walddk5: 2 segments of 14 boards in the R32, R16, QF and SF. 3 x 16 in the finals on Wednesday|pg||
pc|h6|pg||
nt|athene: ?|pg||
pc|dA|nt|mcarroll: making now|pg||
nt|woozle: Brown had two options - lead the club early before the opponents know you have eight trumps, or run trumps and try to put on pressure|pg||
pc|d8|pc|d7|nt|ntmon: or @D lead|pg||
pc|d3|pg||
nt|athene: maybe he didn't|pg||
pc|d5|nt|blum1956: Maybe it were better to play the @cQ before trumps|pg||
nt|roswolf: pepsi is east's nickname |pg||
pc|dJ|nt|mcarroll: True enough|pg||
nt|Walddk4: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswrunda6.html|pg||
nt|panja: do you like the 2@H bid?|pg||
pc|h9|nt|woozle: Count signals should sort out the club suit for the defense when North has the ace|pg||
pc|d6|pg||
nt|roswolf: non-poles cant pronounce all the consonants in his name|pg||
pc|cA|nt|roswolf: 3nt shows 5 hearts i am told :)|pg||
pc|c4|pc|s4|pc|c7|pg||
nt|athene: yes i know 1@D shows hearts but only 4+ hearts|pg||
nt|panja: why bid for 8 tricks when you can take 7 and get a plus score? |pg||
pc|c3|nt|roswolf: cutting his losses -1|pg||
nt|rmb1: I prefer it to Pass|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|jcomyn: surprised in a way they didnt try|pg||
pc|h2|pc|cT|pg||
pc|hK|nt|jcomyn: c situation helps a little|pg||
nt|jfaria:  again 9 tricks is a lot|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|s2|pc|hT|pg||
pc|h3|pc|s6|nt|blum1956: It is difficult for defenders to make a mistake when they have some 7 free discards|pg||
nt|roswolf: concede|pg||
pc|s5|nt|jcomyn: should have been glad to get out at 2nt|pg||
pc|hJ|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|o18|st||md|4SJ983HAT82D962C85,SKQHK96DAKT8CKQJ3,ST654HJ75DQ74CT92,SA72HQ43DJ53CA764|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|nt|bigtrain: need to avoid a pushy slam here|pg||
mb|3C!|mb|p|mb|3H!|mb|p|mb|3S!|mb|p|mb|4D!|mb|p|nt|daman: uh oh|pg||
nt|ady: slam on diamond finess   fails|pg||
nt|ady: 6@C|pg||
mb|4H!|nt|bigtrain: 6@C is much better slam than 6NT|pg||
mb|p|nt|bigtrain: but both fail here|pg||
nt|ady: can only make on a diamond lead|pg||
mb|4N|mb|p|nt|ady: as kib mentioned  south on lead against clubs   so 6@C can never make|pg||
nt|ady: lotso of questions from kibs about bidding sequence     sorry unable to answer|pg||
nt|bigtrain: i could guess...|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 3@C was puppet|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 3@H denies various major holdings|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 3@S asks for minors|pg||
nt|bigtrain: at least that an attempt -- definitely an uninformed one though|pg||
mb|5H|nt|ady: with 4-3-3-3  I  would not have been ambitious with east hand  just raise to 3NT|pg||
mb|p|mb|6C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ritong: so did pszczola|pg||
nt|ritong: hi there|pg||
nt|bigtrain: it's definitely not a bad thing if they reach 6@C (other than not making)|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|h5|nt|ady: a likely 31-32    butg shapeles and poor intermediates|pg||
pc|h3|pg||
pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|h7|pc|h4|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|c5|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c9|pc|c6|pc|c8|pg||
pc|c3|pc|cT|pc|cA|pc|h8|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|sQ|pc|s4|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s5|pc|s7|pc|s8|pg||
pc|dA|nt|ady: had west not held 10@D   this slam would have been even worse|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|d2|pg||
pc|h9|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|hT|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s9|pc|d8|pc|s6|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d6|pc|dT|pc|dQ|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|c18|st||md|4SJ983HAT82D962C85,SKQHK96DAKT8CKQJ3,ST654HJ75DQ74CT92,SA72HQ43DJ53CA764|sv|n|nt|hedyg: i am afraid when the CC was made last year they were not yet playing transfers over the 1@c opening, thus no explanations|pg||
nt|roswolf: what 3@H would mean is a mystery:)|pg||
nt|athene: ok so with a 3nt bid and only four hearts, south would have done something else|pg||
nt|athene: garozzo responds 2@C on strong balanced hands with a 4-card major|pg||
nt|athene: the idea is to conceal the major if you don't have a 4-4 fit|pg||
nt|athene: so if you respond showing a major then bid 3nt you promise 5|pg||
nt|roswolf: another kibber suggests they may use 3@S rebid by south as puppet to 3nt|pg||
nt|athene: looks as though NS are doing the same sort of thing|pg||
nt|MolvaM: nice hand.|pg||
nt|hedyg: wd for -1?|pg||
nt|dburn: delay perhaps caused by return of Director to table|pg||
nt|3for3: south made an interesting pass of the double of 1@H in CR.  Terrible heart spots.  I'd have bid some number of NT myself|pg||
nt|VugraphPLA: They will talk with TD after the match |pg||
nt|jcomyn: still a present of 6 imps|pg||
mb|p|nt|jfaria:  a quiet @s game now|pg||
mb|p|nt|MolvaM: we would be happy if a few voids would be there but ok :)|pg||
nt|glen: on bd 22, Tokay, S in other room, started trumps with ace for +140 and 5 imps|pg||
mb|2N|nt|jcomyn: 3C|pg||
nt|ntmon: 2@S alerted but looks like sign-off|pg||
nt|roswolf: on 22 in 3@S DECLARER DID PLAY ACE AND ANOR TRUMP|pg||
nt|MolvaM: welldone tokay :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|roswolf: great minds eh glen!?:)|pg||
nt|glen: hey, canadians own "eh"|pg||
nt|roswolf: well 3nt seems routine by west|pg||
mb|3S|an| |nt|jcomyn: boy what happens now|pg||
nt|ntmon: when opps bid 2 suits and we look for 3NT, we bid the suit we have stopped |pg||
nt|hedyg: 2@d= 4+|pg||
nt|roswolf: a difficult salm to reach 6@D seems clearly superior|pg||
nt|athene: NS can bid lots of hearts but that will only encourage east to bid a slam|pg||
nt|hedyg: ok here is the CC for NS now: http://www.svenskbridge.se/e107_files/tavling/deklarationer/AWJKeng.pdf|pg||
nt|roswolf: this might be awkward for n/s|pg||
nt|hedyg: which is the awkward part?|pg||
nt|jcomyn: yes all this early morning excitement is a bit much for an aul fella like me|pg||
nt|jfaria:  no reason to play anything else but 4@s|pg||
nt|panja: 6@C will be a good spot on B18|pg||
mb|p|nt|ntmon: but i agree .. NS on the way to problems|pg||
nt|roswolf: the heart lead against nt is marked lucky east has 10xxx|pg||
nt|hedyg: getting to grand?|pg||
nt|rmb1: Losing @D finesse in 6NT|pg||
mb|3N|nt|woozle: At the other table, North switched to a diamond at trick two, but chose the lowest...South, duly misled, led one back|pg||
nt|athene: 6@S will make if the defence foolishly try to cash @HAK, but not if they switch to a club to take out the entry to the diamonds, of course|pg||
nt|glen: thanks Hedy, typical swedish cc, very little blank space left|pg||
nt|dburn: Kokish hasn't yet managed to persuade Rodwell to overcall 1@s instead of doubling|pg||
mb|p|nt|MolvaM: heart lead and low spade switch?|pg||
nt|granguru:  and west @HJx|pg||
mb|p|nt|jcomyn: like well into the soup|pg||
nt|jcomyn: I'm still bidding 3c on the s hand before you have your blood spilled|pg||
nt|MolvaM: oh then @sA disappears|pg||
nt|roswolf: slam is on in many denominations and level is difficult to judge too|pg||
nt|jfaria:  2 nt must be several layouts, otherwise I doubt W would enter tehe auction|pg||
mb|p|nt|ntmon: the only problem with 3@C is that should not be enough |pg||
nt|ntmon: at least they're on the same wavelenght|pg||
nt|roswolf: advance sac taken|pg||
nt|hedyg: XX doesnt even start to show this hand|pg||
nt|hedyg: it really makes no difference to their qualifications|pg||
nt|panja: but with @DQ off, it won't make...|pg||
pc|s6|nt|hedyg: still 9 tricks|pg||
nt|hedyg: ok, now 4@d|pg||
nt|roswolf: i agree hedy|pg||
nt|3for3: kokish basically believes there is no hand too strong to overcall.  Rodwell doesn't see it that way here|pg||
pc|s2|nt|MolvaM: even if misguess|pg||
nt|hedyg: right|pg||
nt|hedyg: anything is fine as long as they avoid 5@ds|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|roswolf: yup i think duboin was taking the time to light the proverbial cigarette|pg||
pc|sK|pg||
nt|jcomyn: much of a muchness|pg||
nt|glen: i thought they played for lavazza and coffee|pg||
pc|cK|nt|roswolf: the grand is missed i fear|pg||
nt|hedyg: Thomas thinks XX shows 3 @ss only|pg||
nt|hedyg: with 4 card fit and singleton @c he had other bids available|pg||
nt|roswolf: meckwell will probably have a similar challenge in the other room|pg||
pc|c2|nt|blum1956: clear pass for North on 2@s from my point of view, but Pszczola is a world champion which I am not|pg||
nt|MolvaM: he could get 6 proverbial IMPs fine for that  :)|pg||
nt|hedyg: strange not to correct to @s|pg||
nt|panja: the bidding doesn't really address this slam exploration...if W had @DQ instead of the @SQ, for example, it would have been a cold 6@C|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c5|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c9|pc|c6|nt|jfaria:  Question is  if 2nt GF W knows NS will win the auction , so no point in telling where the gold is..|pg||
pc|c8|pg||
nt|roswolf: seems to gain a few imps|pg||
pc|dK|nt|mcarroll: they did well to stop below game, but even this is probably not going to make|pg||
pc|d4|nt|hedyg: seems Madala decided they would take no @H tricks if EW played|pg||
nt|glen: and the cash out stops at 4 tricks|pg||
nt|hedyg: better cash the K@H now|pg||
nt|jcomyn: wonder if n passes what happens|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d6|pg||
nt|ntmon: reaching 4@H X would not be problem on tables, where W passes and E opens with @S preeemt|pg||
nt|roswolf: well that may mean an imp to the israelis|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|hedyg: they took all their tricks|pg||
nt|dburn: always depressing for a defender when declarer wins your opening lead and swiftly returns the suit|pg||
pc|cT|nt|3for3: especially at NT!|pg||
pc|cA|nt|woozle: Fiona did well on lead with a trump...a heart (or club) lead would have cost a trick|pg||
nt|hedyg: it is like an insult|pg||
pc|s9|pg||
nt|blum1956: as opposite to 2@s which is makeable|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d2|nt|roswolf: nothing is much better here|pg||
nt|3for3: I like a low club better than the king|pg||
nt|dburn: happens to me all the time - my partner's card at trick one is suit preference, to tell me what I should have led|pg||
nt|roswolf: lol|pg||
nt|hedyg: lol|pg||
pc|d8|pc|dQ|pg||
nt|jcomyn: coul.d have been plenty of action after all|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|o19|st||md|1SAHK865DJ8653CJ43,SQ32HJ72DA74CAK82,SKT876HT93DKQ9CQ6,SJ954HAQ4DT2CT975|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1S|mb|1N|mb|d|mb|p|nt|bigtrain: X = responsive|pg||
mb|2D|nt|daman: yes|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cT|pc|c3|pc|cK|pc|c6|pg||
pc|cA|pc|cQ|pc|c5|pc|c4|pg||
nt|ady: nice contract to reach|pg||
pc|c2|pc|h3|pc|c7|pc|cJ|pg||
nt|bigtrain: needed to shoft to hearts at T2|pg||
nt|bigtrain: now an overtrick looms|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|s4|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|dK|pc|d2|pg||
nt|ady: can still hold to 8 tricks|pg||
nt|bigtrain: thats why i said looms :)|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s5|pc|h5|pc|s3|pg||
pc|hT|pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|h2|pg||
nt|ady: trump|pg||
pc|dT|pc|d5|pc|dA|pc|d9|pg||
nt|ady: push|pg||
pc|d7|pc|dQ|mc|8|pg||
qx|c19|st||md|1SAHK865DJ8653CJ43,SQ32HJ72DA74CAK82,SKT876HT93DKQ9CQ6,SJ954HAQ4DT2CT975|sv|e|nt|woozle: Maybe 4S here for EW, but there's work involved|pg||
nt|ntmon: the wrong result for Monacco atributed to their EW pair in OR|pg||
nt|athene: better lead a diamond against 6@H here|pg||
nt|granguru:  1Nt or 2@D NS|pg||
nt|rmb1: I only have a one-page system summary, so I don't know what 3@S meant, and whether 3NT was forced rebid|pg||
mb|p|nt|roswolf: yes for once not a lot of scope for action|pg||
mb|1C|nt|mcarroll: Lots of work|pg||
nt|mcarroll: lots of work needed|pg||
nt|ntmon: leader changes after each board |pg||
nt|athene: shouldn't be too hard though|pg||
nt|roswolf: another distributional fit|pg||
nt|roswolf: another pretty hand but only enough for game|pg||
mb|1S|mb|p|nt|woozle: only two certain losers, but I'm not sure how many winners|pg||
nt|roswolf: well the @D lead signposted|pg||
nt|athene: 3@D is GF raise with singleton|pg||
nt|roswolf: 3@D shows 1 singleton(unspecified) + gf i am told|pg||
nt|athene: some specs might be wondering why east didn't just double|pg||
mb|1N|nt|athene: there are two possible explanations|pg||
nt|panja: the problem is with the 2Nt bid....whatever 3@S meant, W could hardly have crossed 3Nt...|pg||
mb|p|nt|jcomyn: finding h here will be tricky|pg||
nt|jcomyn: and game on|pg||
nt|athene: firstly they might play x as t/o of hearts (unlikely)|pg||
nt|glen: the modern style: bid five card majors, count points later|pg||
nt|hedyg: 1NT= semi-forcing|pg||
nt|hedyg: 2NT general gametrial..|pg||
nt|dburn: 6@d has some sort of play - not sure how good a contract it is|pg||
nt|rmb1: On 17, EW found a minor-suit fit 3@D-1 for 3IMP|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: secondly he just wants to emphasize he has real playing strength in diamonds so there might be a sac|pg||
nt|glen: the semi-forcing NT allows for opener, once having counted points, to pass to avoid trouble|pg||
nt|hedyg: the term semi-forcing will always be a puzzle to me|pg||
nt|roswolf: this seems easy +90|pg||
nt|hedyg: thus it is NOT forcing?|pg||
nt|hedyg: or just 4@H|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: whereas a lead-directing double could be as little as @DKQ10x or so|pg||
pc|c2|nt|dburn: trumps 3-2 plus some work, I guess|pg||
pc|c6|nt|ntmon: much depends on methods now|pg||
nt|hedyg: notice no XX from Gino to show Kx in @D|pg||
nt|hedyg: i mean: it is either forcing or it isnt?|pg||
nt|granguru:  correct|pg||
nt|MolvaM: so 1NT conventionally asks for point count? :)|pg||
nt|hedyg: ok ty|pg||
nt|roswolf: well your supposed to bid again if you have a decent hand very like drury without the guaranteed trump support|pg||
nt|hedyg: , see above |pg||
nt|glen: semi-forcing is a terrible term, but was meant to distinguish between 1NT not-forcing limited to about 10 pts, and the modern style where it can have game invite values|pg||
nt|jcomyn: has to pass surely|pg||
nt|jfaria:  doubt trading a plus for a a minus|pg||
pc|c9|nt|blum1956: not enough entries to make the @d s work and too bad @h distribution to crossruff effectively|pg||
nt|woozle: On the last board, Harding in the other room tried 3NT with the matching 4333s - down one also, but had chances for 10 in|pg||
nt|roswolf: brakes need to be applied now|pg||
nt|roswolf: simple auction|pg||
pc|cJ|pg||
nt|hedyg: it is a terrible term indeed|pg||
nt|roswolf: but rarely does in my experience|pg||
nt|granguru:  for me semif means "you may pass if you have a sub min hand  or a min with a bal distr"|pg||
pc|d3|nt|3for3: i'd say more than some :)|pg||
nt|3for3: but the black JT's are very useful|pg||
nt|hedyg: iv) For the KO stage, teams not in the first eight rankings in the Swiss A are re-ranked from 9-32 according to seeding based on WBF/EBL masterpoints. The teams ranked 1-8 in the ...|pg||
nt|hedyg: Swiss A, in order, each pick a team from the rest of the teams seeded 9 to 32. After these first eight choices the right to select the opponent passes to the highest remaining ...|pg||
nt|hedyg: seeded team and so on until the bracket is completed. For the purposes of composing brackets the number in the bracket is |pg||
nt|hedyg: determined by the order of the selection|pg||
nt|dburn: if North leads a heart, you have to commit yourself at once - if he doesn't, you have some breathing room|pg||
pc|d4|nt|roswolf: OTT|pg||
nt|athene: i guess one other advantage for 4@D over double is it takes some room away from opps|pg||
pc|dK|nt|dburn: 6@d by East may be better than 6@d by West for that reason, but there's not a lot the Swedes can do about that now|pg||
pc|dT|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|mcarroll: which red suit to try is the question|pg||
pc|d2|nt|ntmon: very lucky for NS|pg||
pc|d5|nt|woozle: A bit sad here that the third diamond will be ruffed with the short defensive trumps|pg||
nt|dburn: if Rodwell does lead a heart, he should choose the eight and not the jack|pg||
pc|d7|pg||
nt|dburn: since he probably would not lead the jack from KJ|pg||
nt|dburn: now, though, declarer may need to pick a black suit|pg||
nt|hedyg: easier for us, as usual|pg||
nt|3for3: those black suits look very similar..|pg||
nt|panja: this could still go down...|pg||
pc|d9|pc|s5|nt|athene: ok, it looks here as though madala has shown a diamond control|pg||
nt|panja: after @DA..EW cash Clubs and exit with @S...|pg||
pc|d8|nt|roswolf: i think n/s were reckless here although who was to blame we may never know|pg||
pc|dA|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cQ|nt|jfaria:  But S really has got hte better hand... everybody talking...|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c3|pg||
nt|jcomyn: sure is i would find KJ10 on my left|pg||
nt|panja: and then on small @H by South, E wins @HQ and plays small...S might misguess|pg||
nt|rmb1: May get home with 2 @S, 4 @D, 1 @C|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|s9|nt|hedyg: as 1 spec says, declarer can test BOTH black suits|pg||
pc|sA|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|h2|pc|s7|nt|hedyg: voila|pg||
nt|hedyg: now pull 2 trumps|pg||
nt|dburn: he can play for a doubleton queen in either black suit, yes|pg||
nt|panja: not the second @S really..|pg||
pc|h4|pg||
nt|panja: S will get a @H instead|pg||
pc|d6|pc|h7|nt|jcomyn: interesting b idding in open room to 4h|pg||
pc|s8|pc|hQ|pg||
pc|c4|nt|panja: but the defence was very very soft..|pg||
pc|c8|pc|h3|nt|3for3: now he has to worry about 4-1 diamonds, not sure he can do a thing about that though.|pg||
nt|panja: not cashing @C was not a great option really|pg||
pc|cT|pg||
nt|ntmon: OR bidding unclear to me - unless 1@D shows @H|pg||
pc|s4|pc|h5|nt|hedyg: can claim now|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|hedyg: ruff 2 losers, disc 1|pg||
pc|sK|pg||
nt|mcarroll: Sad indeed|pg||
pc|h9|pc|hA|nt|3for3: if south had stiff honor, might have been able to handle it.  but no problems here..|pg||
pc|h6|pc|hJ|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|h8|pc|s3|pc|sT|pg||
pc|c7|pc|hK|pc|cA|pc|hT|pg||
pg||
qx|o20|st||md|2S5HKQT9842DQ7CK74,SK732H6D832CAQ863,SAJ64HAJ3DA65CJ95,SQT98H75DKJT94CT2|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|bigtrain: 14-16|pg||
mb|4D!|mb|p|mb|4H|nt|bigtrain: transfer to 4@H|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ady: 4@H down in CR   must have been diamond lead   east wins with king and switches to a club|pg||
nt|bigtrain: lots of clues left by N/S in other room|pg||
nt|ady: or same transfer sequence  and club lead|pg||
pc|sT|nt|ritong: leading the doubleton is not excluded|pg||
nt|bigtrain: here much tougher to find the winning @C lead|pg||
pc|s5|nt|ady: swing coming up|pg||
nt|ady: got several shots     draw trumps and low diamond towards the queen|pg||
nt|ritong: the young oranges will have a feeling everything goes wrong for what probably is the most important match of their  career   tough for them|pg||
nt|daman: can't beat the experience|pg||
nt|ady: if diamond play fails  then need to maked a club trick|pg||
pc|s2|pc|sJ|pg||
nt|daman: whoopws|pg||
nt|ady: even easier now|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|h6|pg||
pc|h2|pc|d2|pc|hA|pc|h7|pg||
nt|ady: 12 imps|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s8|pc|d7|pc|s3|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg||
pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|dQ|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d9|pc|h4|pc|d8|pg||
pc|c4|pc|cQ|pc|c9|pc|cT|pg||
nt|ady: 13 imps  an overtrick|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|c20|st||md|2S5HKQT9842DQ7CK74,SK732H6D832CAQ863,SAJ64HAJ3DA65CJ95,SQT98H75DKJT94CT2|sv|b|nt|ntmon: anyway 2IMP for better game to Lavazza|pg||
nt|jcomyn: probably and then 3d forcing with at least 5-5|pg||
nt|hedyg: a Zia cuebid of 5@D|pg||
nt|athene: is bocchi teaching madala some interesting italian phrases at high speed now? if so, chances are, it was south's fault|pg||
nt|roswolf: another routine game hand|pg||
nt|glen: may see some italian science here|pg||
nt|granguru:  but it has some second meaning here. idont have a great hand and 3cards to raise you|pg||
nt|hedyg: and new leader|pg||
nt|3for3: shall they try 6@D again?|pg||
nt|rmb1: 4@H - only have to avoid 6@H|pg||
mb|p|nt|roswolf: didnt work - it is good to see that the top players are also mere mortals:)|pg||
mb|1N|nt|MolvaM: maybe the 4-1 trumps could bring some action|pg||
nt|roswolf: this could get feisty|pg||
nt|dburn: number 11 buses, these - you can't make six diamonds for hours, and then two come at once|pg||
nt|jfaria:  a nice unlucky game 4 EW|pg||
nt|jfaria:  both red cards misplaced|pg||
nt|jcomyn: very unlucky but should be push|pg||
nt|Walddk5: Welcome to Andy|pg||
mb|p|nt|3for3: this looks better than the last one|pg||
mb|2D|nt|roswolf: or obsfuscation more like|pg||
nt|andyv:  good evening all|pg||
mb|p|nt|hedyg: we have been seeing a lot of that|pg||
nt|jfaria:  hi Andy|pg||
nt|andyv:  hi Joao:)|pg||
mb|2H|nt|hedyg: XX= Hx(x) in @H|pg||
nt|jcomyn: hey i am old enough already without taking a few hours off me. MORNING so|pg||
mb|p|nt|glen: 2@C is the science|pg||
nt|panja: and play carefully..on @D lead, for example..you have to go up with @DA, remove trumps and hope @C suit gives you a trick|pg||
mb|3S|an| |nt|3for3: 6@H a good save here.|pg||
nt|andyv:  :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: 2@C is a reverse inverted minor - it shows a raise to the two-level|pg||
nt|roswolf: 2@c rather than 1@d was an interesting choice|pg||
nt|hedyg: bd 4 Fantunes in 7@s|pg||
nt|dburn: now, if West can bid 4@h as a sort of "last train" or "Bluhmer"...|pg||
mb|4D|an| |nt|glen: natural or 16/17+ many hand types|pg||
mb|p|nt|woozle: Pepsi bids only 2NT...he apparently has lower standards for vulnerable 2H bids than I do|pg||
nt|woozle: Seamon-Molson raises to say "yes, I did overcall vulnerable"|pg||
nt|mcarroll: and the @S Ten is a vital asset|pg||
nt|woozle: I suppose she would never have raised without it|pg||
nt|dburn: ...which apparently he can...|pg||
nt|panja: and now, on @C lead by E.....this would go down|pg||
nt|rmb1: 3@S splinter|pg||
nt|rmb1: 4@D cue |pg||
nt|panja: right, and 4@D cue...so @C lead is automatic...|pg||
mb|4H|nt|mcarroll: :)|pg||
nt|jcomyn: now thats aggressive but i suppose the 5-card suit is useful|pg||
nt|jcomyn: H lead?|pg||
nt|roswolf: nice contract|pg||
nt|dburn: ...then East-West have a chance|pg||
nt|hedyg: he knows his hcps, though not heavy , are good|pg||
nt|3for3: not sure what rodwell's double of 4@H was, but it will make it easier, as now east can show heart control.|pg||
nt|hedyg: Upmarks XX= 1st rd control|pg||
nt|jfaria:  played by the "wrong" side, S on lead could try a @d|pg||
nt|andyv:  3@h probably shows any 4 card without strength being a factor|pg||
mb|p|nt|ntmon: actually E hand is rather strong in 15-17 range|pg||
nt|ntmon: roles home now|pg||
nt|jcomyn: rolls even|pg||
nt|ntmon: rolls* :)|pg||
nt|glen: 2@S was natural, usually 2@Ss, less than 8|pg||
nt|roswolf: for once i understand their bidding:)|pg||
nt|jfaria:  think W will try the @h and will delay @d till the end|pg||
mb|p|nt|glen: 3@H was the big hand, natural|pg||
nt|hedyg: 2@c either nat or any strong hand|pg||
nt|hedyg: according to the CC|pg||
mb|p|nt|hedyg: then 3@H= strong hand with @s+@H|pg||
nt|hedyg: impressive bidding|pg||
pc|cT|nt|dburn: good bid, that|pg||
nt|3for3: well done ew|pg||
nt|dburn: still, even if West had only bid five, East might have bid six|pg||
nt|andyv:  may lead @ss twice to hand|pg||
nt|jfaria:  now @s|pg||
nt|jcomyn: exactly|pg||
nt|andyv:  even dbl dummy can't see a way to strip the hand and throw S in to break the @d suit|pg||
pc|c4|nt|roswolf: i didnt expect this contract|pg||
nt|roswolf: should go -1|pg||
nt|hedyg: would you bid 1NT as W over 1@D?|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c5|pg||
pc|cA|nt|roswolf: no i wouldnt|pg||
nt|hedyg: hmm maybe that is a xfer too|pg||
nt|3for3: aha.  the save is found.|pg||
pc|c9|nt|jcomyn: h lkead d switch and another h but who would find that|pg||
nt|roswolf: ah a natural raise you mean bill:)|pg||
nt|hedyg: "only" -5?|pg||
pc|c2|nt|jfaria:  that doesnt solve the problem, but maybe  a favourable ending can be reached better that 50% chance after @h fails|pg||
nt|andyv:  dbl dummy can' take the @h hook|pg||
pc|c7|pg||
pc|c6|nt|dburn: only four, I think|pg||
nt|hedyg: oh only 4|pg||
nt|hedyg: cheap!|pg||
nt|3for3: 8 easy aces|pg||
nt|jfaria:  S must not try a @d now|pg||
nt|jcomyn: club exit|pg||
nt|andyv:  he has 2 easy exits so no need to rush @d|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|athene: it's good to see people raising clubs|pg||
nt|athene: doesn't happen often :)|pg||
nt|roswolf: yes of course they play transfers over 1@C -doh:(|pg||
nt|jcomyn: oh no|pg||
nt|andyv:  but what do I know|pg||
nt|jfaria:  MUST NOT :(|pg||
nt|jcomyn: why do that with 2 easy options|pg||
nt|jfaria:  now there is a psic warfare|pg||
nt|andyv:  now West has to think since S wasn't being forced to lead @d that he may be underleading his Ace. |pg||
nt|jfaria:  Should accept the gift and let run to J?|pg||
nt|andyv:  I don't think it's a gift|pg||
pc|h5|nt|jcomyn: and bocchi-Madala found that defence in open room|pg||
nt|andyv:  well done|pg||
nt|jcomyn: yes but could s be underleading the ace - unlikely|pg||
nt|jfaria:  as the cards lie it is|pg||
pc|cK|pg||
nt|woozle: Fiona decided that spades aren't promising on lead, so tries a surprise attack in clubs. Pepsi is surprised, but not so surprised that he will forget to take his now ten top tricks|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|ntmon: well deserved|pg||
nt|jcomyn: led d first and then h|pg||
nt|jcomyn: very good but i wont lead a s whatever else|pg||
nt|jfaria:  so Maha didnt gave credit to the duch jr|pg||
nt|panja: @C6 by West..the middle card...this must be neutral card|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s2|nt|hedyg: fine bidding all around|pg||
pc|sA|pg||
pc|s4|nt|jfaria:  and took the gift|pg||
pc|s8|nt|andyv:  one of the few times opps did something that was actually for declarer's benefit|pg||
pc|hT|nt|hedyg: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswleaderb.html|pg||
pc|s3|pg||
nt|MolvaM: kamras thinking?|pg||
nt|hedyg: hardly|pg||
nt|VugraphPLA: i did mistake , he should not have 7 of spade now |pg||
pc|h2|pc|h6|pc|hA|pc|h7|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s9|pc|hK|pc|s7|pg||
pc|h4|nt|ntmon: i have some sympathy - @S looks as a safe lead after invitational sequence|pg||
pc|d2|nt|rmb1: Playing for @SKxx|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|d4|pg||
pc|h3|pc|d9|nt|hedyg: Tadeusz! you are teasing us lol|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|hedyg: why?|pg||
nt|roswolf: :)|pg||
pc|c3|pg||
pc|h9|pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|sT|pg||
pc|h8|nt|panja: will try Sq on W if W holds both Kings|pg||
mc|9|nt|panja: but it is  not so..|pg||
pg||
qx|o21|st||md|3SQJ6HQ8DAQJ64CJ86,SAK984HT7643DT83C,S72HKJ9DK2CAK9743,ST53HA52D975CQT52|sv|n|nt|bigtrain: not sure this line of play is any better than winning the first trick and working on the minors separately|pg||
nt|vugraphpl5: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/or32runda1.html|pg||
nt|daman: website for these Championships....   http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg||
nt|ady: n/s will certainly get to 3NT|pg||
nt|daman: lol|pg||
nt|bigtrain: oh -- missed that he ducked the first spade|pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|nt|bigtrain: too busy typing|pg||
mb|3N|nt|ady: may get a swing    |pg||
nt|ritong: and another stab|pg||
nt|daman: here is the vugraph schedule for future sessions     bookmark it     http://www.bridgebase.com/vugraph/schedule.php|pg||
nt|ady: not clear for east to lead a spade|pg||
nt|ady: any case for west to double?|pg||
nt|bigtrain: another hand that clues were left in the other rooms sequence...  hard to see how e/w will suceed here|pg||
mb|d|nt|bigtrain: this is their only chance|pg||
nt|ady: west must know there are deent chances to beat 3NT if being able to get the spade lead    fair case for double|pg||
mb|4C|mb|p|mb|4N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s3|pc|sJ|nt|ady: needs to play low first or 2nd trick|pg||
nt|ritong: not really|pg||
nt|ritong: but he probably will|pg||
nt|ritong: the fact that north ran away has importance|pg||
nt|ritong: presumably he holds @s xx|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s2|pg||
pc|c6|pc|h7|pc|cA|pc|cT|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|d4|pc|d3|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|dA|pc|d8|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|dT|pc|c3|pc|d9|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|h6|pc|c4|pc|sT|pg||
pc|d6|pc|h3|nt|ady: small swing for Juniors|pg||
pc|s7|pc|h2|pg||
pc|c8|pc|h4|pc|cK|pc|c2|pg||
pc|h9|pc|hA|pc|h8|pc|hT|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s6|pc|sA|pc|c7|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|c21|st||md|3SQJ6HQ8DAQJ64CJ86,SAK984HT7643DT83C,S72HKJ9DK2CAK9743,ST53HA52D975CQT52|sv|n|nt|woozle: Can make eleven tricks in spades EW by squeezing south in the red suits|pg||
nt|blum1956: If North opens a strong 1NT, what will West bid&|pg||
nt|blum1956: ?|pg||
nt|woozle: North much too strong for a strong notrump...although at favourable I might open 2NT|pg||
nt|woozle: A strong notrump is the second best preempt in bridge, after 2NT|pg||
nt|woozle: Is Pepsi deep in the tank, or is this a coffee break?|pg||
nt|blum1956: This time 1@c is the worst option for North - East may even preempt in @s s wich solves the problem for EW|pg||
nt|jcomyn: but nobody bid h - or s I suppose, so|pg||
nt|ntmon: Lavazza builds a sound, deserved lead|pg||
nt|MolvaM: better take the shortcut :)|pg||
nt|hedyg: ok np|pg||
nt|hedyg: just wanted to see if we were awake?|pg||
mb|1C|nt|Walddk4: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswrunda5.html  running now|pg||
nt|3for3: certainly interesting hands..|pg||
nt|rmb1: Netherland Juniour tried 6@C -1 on  19, another 11IMP to Mahaffey.|pg||
nt|panja: B21, 3N does not make for NS..but they have 27 HCP..so they will try to bid some game...|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: 4@D would be a splinter we assume|pg||
nt|athene: but he might not want to do that with a singleton ace|pg||
nt|roswolf: south will brush the intervention aside|pg||
nt|roswolf: this might be carnage|pg||
nt|hedyg: Mahaffey has dropped to 6th|pg||
nt|dburn: 2@d one major|pg||
nt|3for3: 4@D the other?|pg||
mb|1S|an| |nt|athene: 3@D will be a spade raise anyway; presumably 3@C would be hearts|pg||
nt|hedyg: unusual vs unusual|pg||
nt|3for3: :)|pg||
nt|jcomyn: might try 3nt|pg||
nt|andyv:  yes, very tempting|pg||
mb|d|nt|hedyg: 3@d showing invite + in @s|pg||
nt|roswolf: south should pass|pg||
nt|MolvaM: sementa's pass says what?  I have diamonds? |pg||
nt|roswolf: they will play in 4@H|pg||
nt|hedyg: running scores: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswrunda6.html|pg||
nt|roswolf: the auction in the other room was ultimately a phantom|pg||
nt|dburn: Cullin lurking|pg||
nt|andyv:  but dblton in @s may slow him down|pg||
nt|panja: EW, of course, might create obstacles in their path and save them|pg||
mb|2C|nt|jcomyn: and can add toit here|pg||
nt|hedyg: 3@c would be invite + in @h|pg||
nt|roswolf: he has sufficient defence|pg||
nt|MolvaM: or just that he has nothing to say|pg||
nt|andyv:  interesting problem for W|pg||
mb|p|nt|woozle: Fiona, bids the routine (at this vul) 2S|pg||
nt|roswolf: to the limit for west|pg||
nt|andyv:  most prudent is 4@c|pg||
nt|jfaria:  he has got the "expected"|pg||
mb|3N|nt|mcarroll: well predicted!|pg||
nt|roswolf: west must make his own arrangements|pg||
nt|andyv:  enterprising is 4@h|pg||
nt|jfaria:  4@c looks ok to me|pg||
mb|p|nt|woozle: McGann takes the quick path to game|pg||
nt|roswolf: good judgment|pg||
nt|athene: does bocchi have to find the diamond lead for 500 here?|pg||
nt|dburn: trying to look like a man saving in 4@s|pg||
nt|panja: you mean board 18...6@C|pg||
mb|p|nt|hedyg: maybe this is a hand t show invite + in @H and when d bids @H bid @s to show both majors|pg||
nt|roswolf: the noose tightens|pg||
nt|hedyg: surely he has no 4 cards in any other suit than @d|pg||
nt|hedyg: some superbergen|pg||
nt|jcomyn: oops|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: hmmm ok this looks as though bocchi made a forcing pass and now a slam try in spades which is surely a bit optimistic with his hand|pg||
nt|roswolf: south tempted to bid on!?|pg||
nt|MolvaM: duboins hand looked so good after rho opened 1@d. now it looks not so attractive|pg||
nt|hedyg: oy vey!|pg||
nt|roswolf: high noon shoot out|pg||
nt|glen: sementa rips up cards and leaves table|pg||
nt|MolvaM: a void usually means action|pg||
nt|roswolf: blood will flow but whose is not clear|pg||
nt|hedyg: why XX?|pg||
nt|glen: actual it is xxxx since previous xx|pg||
nt|hedyg: surely if Sementa had a better suit he would have bid it?|pg||
pc|s4|nt|roswolf: now dbl?|pg||
nt|dburn: Meckstroth has seen his sort before, though|pg||
nt|3for3: well, his hand suggests bidding too |pg||
nt|hedyg: 1NT= 14-16|pg||
nt|hedyg: it is an upgrade|pg||
nt|roswolf: or 13 actually:)|pg||
nt|hedyg: as usual in your singleton|pg||
nt|VugraphPLA: jaki wynik , wyniki w necie nie dzialaja |pg||
nt|andyv:  with 5 losers, it's too much to ask for a passed hand to cover 3 of them|pg||
nt|panja: 1@S seems like denying a 4 M...I am not sure it shows @D Suit ...|pg||
nt|rmb1: 1@S part of transfer-response structure to 1@C -  denies either major|pg||
pc|s2|nt|roswolf: good judgment again|pg||
nt|hedyg: trying to put N under pressure?|pg||
nt|VugraphPLA: oops|pg||
nt|jfaria:  looks like we r watching a "all jr" TM :)|pg||
nt|jfaria:  optimism galore|pg||
nt|andyv:  interesting way of saying "oops", Tad:)|pg||
nt|jcomyn: hey leave the irish to me|pg||
pc|sT|nt|roswolf: will n/s run out of red cards|pg||
pc|sQ|pg||
nt|jcomyn: but very difficult|pg||
nt|ntmon: EW in OR might know that they're behind, so try to push|pg||
nt|panja: only 8 tricks for NS..bu cashing Diamonds might lead to some useful situation|pg||
pc|c8|nt|hedyg: passssssssssssssss|pg||
nt|hedyg: surely no need to correct to 2@H!|pg||
nt|roswolf: might give preference|pg||
nt|roswolf: oh well 2 imps to the swedes|pg||
pc|h7|nt|hedyg: cannot be a forcing pass opposite what might be just invite|pg||
nt|glen: i still think ripping up cards will result in lowest possible minus score|pg||
nt|MolvaM: well 8 card fit is better than nothing|pg||
nt|hedyg: oh no !|pg||
nt|hedyg: might try 3NT after X of 3@D?|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c5|pg||
nt|MolvaM: ahh it goes on|pg||
nt|roswolf: frying pan into fire|pg||
nt|panja: unlikey here though, EW don't seem to have any interesting option for discarding differently..|pg||
nt|panja: W will sluff @H, E will sluff @H|pg||
nt|rmb1: Might try a @H now|pg||
nt|panja: try and slip @H trick through East?|pg||
pc|dK|nt|athene: well it can be if you agree it is|pg||
pc|d5|nt|hedyg: what?|pg||
nt|MolvaM: 5 card fit now|pg||
nt|hedyg: are we watching the right board?|pg||
nt|glen: now there are fires, and there is this|pg||
nt|roswolf: this would be funny a5-0 fit|pg||
nt|hedyg: would be?|pg||
nt|roswolf: you shouldnt laugh at a funeral|pg||
nt|hedyg: ok folks! see? it can happen to anybody!|pg||
nt|MolvaM: if duboin had not rdbl'd it would have benn just ok|pg||
nt|hedyg: next time i play in my cuebid i must try to remember this moment|pg||
nt|roswolf: the italian will be x -rated in the post mortem|pg||
nt|MolvaM: looks like hand from the menagerie where both sides can play 2@dX|pg||
pc|d4|nt|roswolf: low trump to start|pg||
nt|granguru:  diagnostic?|pg||
nt|glen: the best thing for NS to do after the hand is leave table, then come back when decibel level is below 120|pg||
nt|hedyg: call an ambulance|pg||
nt|granguru:  --4?|pg||
nt|roswolf: gib says -7 dd|pg||
nt|granguru:  ducking is best here|pg||
nt|hedyg: desperately looking for an entry to his hand|pg||
nt|roswolf: well if slam is on for n/s i still tale the penalty 1700|pg||
pc|d3|pg||
nt|Walddk5: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswrunda3.html|pg||
nt|roswolf: take|pg||
pc|d2|nt|hedyg: it is only when Madala doubles that he is better than invite|pg||
nt|3for3: a little chancy for cullin to double.  is meck is 0-2 in the blacks, might be cold, or his side could be making.  |pg||
nt|hedyg: just dont play @D|pg||
nt|hedyg: 10@H was discouraging|pg||
nt|hedyg: in this situation it just denies the ace|pg||
nt|hedyg: seemed easier to disc 10@D|pg||
pc|d7|pc|dA|nt|hedyg: if the 3@D bid had been gf, then it would have been a forcing pass|pg||
nt|athene: it's reasonable enough to play pass forcing if you showed at least game invite values and opps go to 5-level; 99% of the time they are advance saccing|pg||
pc|d8|pg||
nt|hedyg: too bad it isnt on?|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|dT|nt|jcomyn: joao it is go leor|pg||
pc|c3|pc|d9|pg||
nt|roswolf: the vampires gather for their feast|pg||
nt|jfaria:  singleton lead with singleton trump :) but avoiding the looser @d lead|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|jcomyn: see you even get language lessons on this show|pg||
pc|h6|pc|c4|nt|glen: (promo for HBO true blood new season)|pg||
pc|h2|pg||
pc|d6|nt|woozle: Squeeze is broken up if North wins the second spade and leads a red suit - can't get off dummy without losing a menace|pg||
pc|h4|nt|roswolf: lol|pg||
pc|c7|pc|s5|pg||
pc|c6|pc|h3|pc|cK|pc|c2|pg||
pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h8|nt|roswolf: THE TRANSFER DOESNT WORK|pg||
nt|hedyg: he bid 4@H too fast imo|pg||
nt|roswolf: may have had a squeeze if he hadnt played the club q|pg||
nt|hedyg: Pepsi double should have put him into the right contract|pg||
nt|panja: South isn't playing like a youngster....too safe..|pg||
pc|hT|pg||
nt|hedyg: in OR for some reason N bid 1@s over the X instead of XX|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|jfaria:  again MUST NOT play @d|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|s8|pc|c9|pg||
pc|cT|nt|andyv:  maybe learned lesson from last hand?|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s9|nt|ntmon: 4@S would have need a miracle in @C suit, but will be bid elsewhere|pg||
nt|hedyg: and that kept W out of the bidding|pg||
pc|s7|pg||
pc|s3|mc|8|nt|jfaria:  :)|pg||
pg||
qx|o22|st||md|4SK974HK93DQ9CJ843,SQHAJ764DKT652CT7,S8632H85D743CQ965,SAJT5HQT2DAJ8CAK2|sv|e|nt|daman: pyrrhic victory on this hand?|pg||
nt|ady: as kib pointed out well done by west|pg||
nt|daman: yes    good stuff|pg||
nt|ritong: stopping the bleeding is a good idea anyways  excellent initiative from lankveld|pg||
nt|vugraphpl5: short break|pg||
nt|bigtrain: another shot to win imps here...  the type of slam an underdog needs to bid and make|pg||
nt|ady: a poor slam    need to find 2 red important cards|pg||
mb|1C|nt|ady: 2 way in diamonds     |pg||
mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|nt|ady: need heart split as well as king onside not to lose a heart trick    but not that bad a slam|pg||
nt|daman: I would be surprised if they didn't bid it     they have to create their own swins|pg||
mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|daman: so much for that|pg||
pc|s3|nt|ady: many kibs saying slam good    it is better than I first tht|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|sQ|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h3|pc|h4|pc|h5|pg||
pc|hT|pc|h9|pc|h6|pc|h8|pg||
pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|hA|nt|ady: a bit worse than 1 of 2 finesses   but a reasonable shot|pg||
pc|s2|pg||
nt|daman: if the Juniors just sit there and don't take chances....they will get smoked|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|d9|pg||
pc|d8|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|d4|pg||
mc|13|nt|daman: win 1|pg||
pg||
qx|c22|st||md|4SK974HK93DQ9CJ843,SQHAJ764DKT652CT7,S8632H85D743CQ965,SAJT5HQT2DAJ8CAK2|sv|e|nt|woozle: OK, no squeeze if you don't play off your trumps...it's like half-strangling somebody|pg||
nt|3for3: as long as rodwell didnt play @D all ok.  He had no reason to against 5@S undoubled.  If Meck had doubled, might have been looking for extra 200 point undertricks.  here the goal ...|pg||
nt|3for3: was a modest +50|pg||
nt|jfaria:  hard to play at Meckwell speed, they are at least 2 boards ahead|pg||
nt|jcomyn: cards very nicely placed here but still only 3nt bid|pg||
nt|panja: 6@H on one of two finesses...good 6@H really for EW|pg||
mb|2N|nt|jcomyn: yes normal contract |pg||
nt|athene: but we just don't know the NS agreements here (or i don't anyway) :)|pg||
nt|andyv:  5-5 hand|pg||
mb|p|nt|roswolf: lots of hcp but not much chance of a slam|pg||
nt|athene: i don't understand the last hand|pg||
nt|athene: if west just holds up his @SA isn't he beating 5@S?|pg||
nt|hedyg: he is, needs to hold up twice|pg||
nt|athene: he ducks twice - now if bocchi plays another trump he takes the ace and plays a fourth and the club ruff goes|pg||
nt|VugraphPLA: TD was called , Ginossar think 5s was -1 |pg||
nt|athene: if bocchi ruffs a club himself, then west can simply force the south hand in clubs|pg||
nt|hedyg: Tadeusz, did Gino duck the A@S?|pg||
nt|athene: maybe bocchi claimed 11 or something and west agreed without really thinking it through|pg||
nt|athene: seems unlikely though|pg||
nt|roswolf: indeed|pg||
nt|roswolf: but fatigue does play its part|pg||
nt|hedyg: not that unlikely, only 4-0 @ss could beat him|pg||
nt|hedyg: so he might well have played a @s from hand and claimed|pg||
nt|VugraphPLA: Well i haven't seen , Bocchi has just claimed|pg||
nt|hedyg: ok so we will wait, once declarer claims all play stops and you call the TD if you dont agree|pg||
nt|VugraphPLA: We are waiting for decision |pg||
nt|roswolf: one fir the bulletin i think as do a few others!:)|pg||
nt|3for3: Is Upmark from the Steve Robinson school...All 5 card majors?  Otherwise, I prefer 1@D with this shape|pg||
nt|hedyg: LOL|pg||
nt|hedyg: me 2|pg||
nt|jcomyn: 2nt-3nt|pg||
mb|3D|an| |nt|jcomyn: might try 3nt here a behind bid|pg||
nt|hedyg: must be from the same family|pg||
mb|p|nt|dburn: may not be so easy to stay low enough - that 1@s might turn out to waste space rather than save it|pg||
nt|roswolf: yes 1@D for me too|pg||
nt|3for3: it often does|pg||
nt|dburn: still, it seems that West can use relays of some kind, rather than have the auction start 1@s-2@h-3@d|pg||
mb|3H|nt|MolvaM: living thru this at the table is bad, but worse will come during scoring when you say minus 1400 |pg||
nt|roswolf: yes 3nt much superior|pg||
nt|hedyg: 2@c gf relay|pg||
nt|roswolf: but no difficulty bidding game|pg||
mb|p|nt|hedyg: 2NT= 8-10 ZZ with a singleton|pg||
nt|3for3: how do you find 6@D opposite Q@S, A@H, a @D honor and A@C?|pg||
nt|roswolf: they wont gey overboard either|pg||
nt|hedyg: ZZ points..|pg||
nt|3for3: or even less with better diamond fit|pg||
nt|hedyg: A=3, K=2 and Q=1|pg||
nt|panja: against, after the 'offside' 2Nt bid..it might be difficult to bid it with conviction....but likely, W will push it|pg||
mb|4D|nt|woozle: McGann has been there before - the big preempt putting pressure on NS in exchange for losing an occasional miracle slam|pg||
nt|glen: 2NT now?|pg||
nt|roswolf: n/s on the previous bd are playing in 5@D|pg||
nt|roswolf: IN THE OTHER ROOM|pg||
nt|andyv:  with @h lead, N can get 3 @h tricks|pg||
nt|panja: that is, push it upwards|pg||
nt|rmb1: Is 2NT OK here ?|pg||
mb|p|nt|jcomyn: lots of controls in n hand why not 2nt|pg||
nt|dburn: but an initial 1@d would not have shown diamonds, and if East can show what he has by responding to relays, 1@s may lead to an easier auction all round|pg||
nt|hedyg: 3@c relay|pg||
mb|4H|mb|p|nt|woozle: Pepsi chooses to go quietly with his 17-count, fearing that a double will be pulled too often|pg||
nt|roswolf: nice judgment here|pg||
nt|MolvaM: well it must be makable since NS took 11 tricks here|pg||
nt|roswolf: this is dangerous|pg||
nt|dburn: well, it looks dangerous, but they probably have it under control|pg||
nt|3for3: this is one of the things that makes bridge hard to 'sell' to the general public.|pg||
nt|panja: ok to upgrade a point...even if your range is 20-21|pg||
mb|p|nt|roswolf: e/w will need a lot of the captain's coffee at the end of this match she wont be very sympathetic|pg||
nt|jfaria:  think W may be squeezed on the reds|pg||
mb|p|nt|hedyg: "please continue to play, i will give you my decision"|pg||
nt|3for3: Even expert commentators have no clue what is happening|pg||
nt|panja: but I don't quite like the 2Nt opening itself.........it is an 'offside' opening, to borrow a term from football, too far too soon, a self-preemptive...|pg||
pc|s7|pc|sQ|nt|woozle: If the match were closer, he probably would have acted|pg||
nt|blum1956: This is a partscore board besides McGann has another opinion))|pg||
nt|ntmon: NS play negative frre bids (NFB) after intervention, so S has extras and N accepts|pg||
nt|jcomyn: agree but prefer playing from n|pg||
nt|roswolf: lol:)|pg||
nt|hedyg: 4@C showing short?|pg||
nt|hedyg: what about @H?|pg||
pc|s8|nt|hedyg: i am sure there is no bid to show both singletons|pg||
nt|dburn: I expect that by now West knows what East has|pg||
nt|3for3: 4@C was probably 5161 with a stiff DUECE of hearts :)|pg||
nt|rmb1: If 4@D is purely choise of games then East must bid 4@H,  If 4@D has slam try overtones surely East must bid on with a fit for both suits|pg||
pc|s5|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c5|nt|granguru:  Duboin should have passed 1@H doubled but I give sementa the greatest part of guilt.for not passing 2@C.|pg||
nt|hedyg: Swedish experts think he showed exact pattern, thus wasted hcps in W hand|pg||
nt|dburn: people don't spend months and years devising these methods just to make life difficult for the commentators|pg||
nt|dburn: they do it because it helps them reach more right contracts than wrong ones|pg||
pc|cA|nt|jfaria:  but that would require a perfect dd play by N I think|pg||
pc|c3|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|jcomyn: h lead from w would n ot be nice|pg||
nt|hedyg: a lot of messages from specs about the last board|pg||
nt|roswolf: i agree with that 1@HX probably not too bad|pg||
nt|granguru:  although 2@C is probably -4 |pg||
nt|glen: would make a fun "you be the judge" in the "the bridge world"|pg||
pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h5|pg||
pc|h4|nt|ntmon: sure, @H better for defence but again .. not easy|pg||
nt|hedyg: it is quite clear: if the A@S is ducked twice he cannot make 5@ss|pg||
pc|h8|nt|granguru:  it will surely appear in some more years|pg||
pc|hT|pc|h3|pg||
nt|jcomyn: anyone know the ages of the dutch juniors|pg||
pc|h2|nt|jcomyn: d and small c and pray|pg||
nt|ntmon: actually case is good after lead from @SA|pg||
nt|jcomyn: going to the wire|pg||
nt|granguru:  I will send the hand ..@H|pg||
nt|roswolf: yes but might be censored as not beinf suitable for a family audience|pg||
nt|granguru:  :)|pg||
nt|glen: nowadays, likely up on bridgewinners and/or bridgetopics in 1 day|pg||
pc|h9|nt|jcomyn: cant be thinking anything but a s|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|s2|pg||
pc|d2|nt|jcomyn: home now i think|pg||
nt|roswolf: i bet the score stands though - if the claim was accepted even though in error - thats it unless it was impossible to win the number of tricks claimed|pg||
nt|roswolf: which it clearly wasnt|pg||
nt|athene: i'm not so sure - declarer is meant to give a line of play|pg||
nt|granguru:  :$|pg||
nt|3for3: Mind you, I am not against science.  It just lessens the ability for the spectators to watch and enjoy|pg||
nt|hedyg: you mean they dont hate us???|pg||
pc|d7|nt|panja: yes....but at this juncture...I guess EW are content with playing middle of the road game|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|jcomyn: tx all|pg||
pc|dQ|pg||
mc|12|pg||
qx|o23|st||md|1SJ3HKT532DK3CA842,SKQ94H7DQJT8CK963,STHAJ96DA7652CQT5,SA87652HQ84D94CJ7|sv|b|nt|vugraphpl5: another break|pg||
nt|bigtrain: at 1 IMP per board they're going to run out of time to soon|pg||
nt|ady: 4@S sac in cr|pg||
mb|1H|nt|ady: if Meck opens 1@H and west double then heart contract easy to play|pg||
nt|ritong: we can suppose that east has something to say|pg||
nt|bigtrain: if meck opens?  :)|pg||
nt|daman: if?|pg||
mb|d|nt|ady: hearts will probably play for 11 tricks if west makes a takeput double|pg||
nt|bigtrain: he has a hand he would think about accepting game tries  :)|pg||
nt|ady: e/w will certainly push to 4@S|pg||
nt|bigtrain: could bid 3@S; could bid 2NT; could bid 4@H...  lots of tactical considerations|pg||
mb|3S!|mb|4S|nt|ady: east surely 4@S  whatever Rod bids|pg||
mb|5H|nt|daman: the 4@S bid is routine|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dQ|pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|dK|pg||
nt|ady: needs some careful play|pg||
nt|bigtrain: he knows @S are 4-6|pg||
nt|daman: has to limit matters to 1 club loser    as well as picking up trumps (routine)|pg||
nt|ady: may need to establish long diamond    plenty to do|pg||
nt|bigtrain: not so sure picking trumps are routine|pg||
nt|bigtrain: but i expect him to get them correct|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h7|pc|hA|pc|h4|pg||
nt|daman: rule of symmetry :)|pg||
pc|h9|pc|h8|pc|h2|nt|daman: tah dah|pg||
nt|bigtrain: with E holding 6 or 7 spades, there's not alot of empty spaces available for @H|pg||
pc|s9|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|c3|pg||
pc|d3|nt|ady: club discard    all over|pg||
pc|d8|pc|dA|pc|d9|pg||
nt|daman: @C pitch was interesting|pg||
pc|d5|pc|s5|pc|h5|pc|dT|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c5|pc|c7|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c9|nt|daman: up Simba|pg||
nt|daman: with apologies to Tarzan|pg||
nt|ritong: meckstroth is now recollecting what he has seen from this opponent on the previous boards|pg||
nt|ritong: he should conclude he is good|pg||
nt|ritong: and thus, has a tough problem|pg||
nt|ady: dont think club pitch mattered  as long diamond will be established|pg||
nt|ady: still seems unsure|pg||
nt|daman: well   West has one or 2 of the top @S hono(u)rs     @D QJ|pg||
nt|daman: and made a t/o double|pg||
nt|daman: he cannot have the AK of @Ss   he might have led it|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|cJ|pg||
pc|d6|pc|s2|nt|daman: so...........................|pg||
pc|s3|mc|12|nt|daman: process of elimination|pg||
nt|ritong: guess he will congrat west|pg||
pg||
qx|c23|st||md|1SJ3HKT532DK3CA842,SKQ94H7DQJT8CK963,STHAJ96DA7652CQT5,SA87652HQ84D94CJ7|sv|b|nt|woozle: nobody was going to mess up that defense|pg||
nt|woozle: I'm not seeing the string of double-digit swings that Harding need to get back into the match|pg||
nt|ntmon: good effort by Monaco on  8|pg||
nt|panja: as for HCP count....try the 4.5-3 for K, 1.5 for Q, 0.75 0.25 for 10....count|pg||
mb|1H|nt|jcomyn: yes|pg||
nt|jcomyn: 3nt|pg||
nt|hedyg: we have 1@HX at -2 and -3 and 2@c X is -3|pg||
mb|d|nt|glen: thus it was a close call to pass 2@H, but that got +110|pg||
nt|hedyg: John surely 1@D X already meant that?|pg||
nt|panja: E hand was 20 points on this scale|pg||
mb|3S|an| |nt|jcomyn: solid 2nt for m,e|pg||
nt|hedyg: 1@c= 16+|pg||
nt|dburn: mind you, Lev and Pepsi reached the right contract with only one artificial bid, but the number of ways to skin a cat remains greater than one|pg||
nt|3for3: dbl=points, 5-8 or so.  not 'negative'|pg||
mb|4S|nt|ntmon: some will preemt with N hand|pg||
nt|athene: interesting - no Ghestem for this NS pair|pg||
nt|athene: but most italian pairs do play some sort of ghestem|pg||
nt|hedyg: with the E hand you bid X and pray pd doesnt bid 3@s|pg||
nt|granguru:  well most of the time..could have been  a GOSH or a 2-suited hand also|pg||
nt|rmb1: 3@S splinter|pg||
nt|panja: rather light double by West, helps them find a very good sac|pg||
mb|p|an| |nt|woozle: Now a notrump partscore, probably with an overtrick or two|pg||
nt|roswolf: now 4@H more normal although may double|pg||
mb|p|nt|mcarroll: Probably best described as a Joey Silver hand|pg||
nt|MolvaM: another "void hand"|pg||
nt|MolvaM: 2@s was probably nonforcing|pg||
nt|hedyg: 2@s obviously nf|pg||
mb|d|nt|hedyg: sry Murat|pg||
mb|p|nt|MolvaM: :)|pg||
nt|hedyg: Kamras really doesnt want to play in @H|pg||
nt|andyv:  more tempted to open N hand 1@c|pg||
mb|p|nt|blum1956: the @h position is of that special sort so nothing may disturb this contract|pg||
nt|athene: 4@S possible with such a good suit|pg||
nt|MolvaM: action again|pg||
nt|3for3: Rodwell's 4@S a coincidence.|pg||
mb|p|nt|roswolf: and chosen|pg||
nt|hedyg: they do play Ghestem on their CC|pg||
nt|athene: sometimes partner has good diamonds and weak hearts and you can make 4@S but not 4@H|pg||
nt|hedyg: just maybe not with @cs|pg||
nt|athene: throwing hearts on diamonds|pg||
nt|andyv:  the spot cards are awful|pg||
nt|rmb1: Another double-digit swing to Mahaffey on 20, no club lead against 4@H +1 on a less revealing auction|pg||
pc|dK|nt|jcomyn: what now - dicey|pg||
nt|roswolf: hmm this wont go for 1400 but in context a similar result|pg||
nt|granguru:  well -16 is not the worst we have seen|pg||
nt|hedyg: any reason his pd could not have 7 good @hs and void in @s?|pg||
nt|jcomyn: 4 baldy aces not your best holding|pg||
nt|jcomyn: and note no other card higher than 7|pg||
pc|d8|nt|roswolf: no hedy|pg||
nt|hedyg: he does have the good 7 card suit part|pg||
nt|MolvaM: 4h was a bit exaggerated for my taste|pg||
nt|MolvaM: 3@h would be ok|pg||
nt|roswolf: this seems to be -3|pg||
nt|roswolf: safe auctions|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d9|pg||
pc|d3|nt|jfaria:  lack of entries in E will give a chance to declarer?|pg||
nt|andyv:  good result achieved in the open room|pg||
pc|dT|pc|dA|pc|d4|pg||
nt|ntmon: @S lead in OR, no  problem then|pg||
nt|panja: very interesting board 20|pg||
pc|hA|nt|hedyg: this should be -1|pg||
nt|hedyg: cannot get to dummy and cannot ruff his @C losers|pg||
nt|jcomyn: indeed thiks is a very nsty hand|pg||
pc|h4|nt|hedyg: except if he gets some help..|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h7|pg||
nt|roswolf: this will drift down|pg||
nt|hedyg: OR in 4@H|pg||
nt|roswolf: 800 is not a scratch|pg||
nt|panja: meckwell didn't at all try to explore a slam....as a result...there was a choice or leads..and East chose the wrong one|pg||
pc|cT|nt|andyv:  I would never let go a @d looking at that dummy...W is very brave|pg||
nt|jfaria:  needed a @c shift |pg||
pc|c7|nt|panja: choice of leads even|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c3|pg||
pc|c2|nt|jcomyn: what with a good 6-carder|pg||
nt|MolvaM: this could recover some of the imps lost in the disaster|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c5|pc|cJ|pg||
mc|9|nt|roswolf: dummy is truly LE MORT|pg||
nt|hedyg: now +1|pg||
nt|hedyg: or 2?|pg||
nt|hedyg: A@c, @C ruff and 3 discards and claim|pg||
pg||
qx|o24|st||md|2SAK9HK9752DQJ8CA5,S86HT864DK32CK874,SJ742HJ3DAT97CJ92,SQT53HAQD654CQT63|sv|o|nt|ritong: like mumbling " good play"|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|daman: would west double with AQxx x QJ10x  J9xx?|pg||
mb|1S|nt|ritong: yes, certainly so|pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ady: thin 3NT n/s    failed in CR|pg||
mb|p|nt|daman: not red   in d=front of an unpassed partner|pg||
nt|bigtrain: probably but that's the maximum spade holding for him...  any less and he wouldhave to hold the @CK|pg||
pc|s8|pc|s2|nt|daman: right|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s9|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d4|pg||
pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h4|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|h6|pc|hJ|pg||
pc|h7|pc|h8|pc|s4|nt|daman: website for these Championships     http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg||
nt|ady: 3NT played  by north CR  on club lead    littled chance|pg||
pc|s3|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c9|pc|cT|nt|daman: vugraph sked for future sessions      http://www.bridgebase.com/vugraph/schedule.php|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|c24|st||md|2SAK9HK9752DQJ8CA5,S86HT864DK32CK874,SJ742HJ3DAT97CJ92,SQT53HAQD654CQT63|sv|o|nt|ntmon: surprises me how often 3NT is made through the field|pg||
nt|jcomyn: isnt that amazing|pg||
nt|hedyg: last board of this match now|pg||
nt|roswolf: tried to drop a singleton trump king|pg||
nt|hedyg: thanks to our outstanding operator in Poznan, Tadeusz ! to my excellent fellow commentators Geoffrey and Bill for donating their time and expertise to guide us through these ...|pg||
nt|hedyg: boards.our appreciation to the EBL and the PBF for bringing this event to BBO, especially Slawek Latala  who was intrumental in organizing these broadcasts on behalf of BBO|pg||
nt|hedyg: special thanks to our specs for joining and for your kind and helpful comments,we hope you enjoyed the show|pg||
nt|glen: there must be a leaderboard for this italian unusual results|pg||
nt|roswolf: We are now on the last board of the set. Thanks to our operator, Joanna -Great Job! Our appreciation to all the organisers for ensuring that this fine event is brought to BBO ...|pg||
nt|roswolf: vugraph. Thanks too to my very learned fellow commentators Hedy, Murat and Glen for their company and perceptive comments and to our specs whose contributions keep us on our toes.|pg||
nt|glen: *these|pg||
nt|hedyg: and thank you Geoffrey :)|pg||
nt|roswolf: an entertaining match|pg||
nt|roswolf: We are now on the last board of the set. Thanks to our operator, Tadeusz -Great Job! Our appreciation to all the organisers for ensuring that this fine event is brought to BBO ...|pg||
nt|roswolf: vugraph. Thanks too to my very learned fellow commentator Hedy for her company and perceptive comments and to our specs whose contributions keep us on our toes.|pg||
nt|hedyg: thank you too Geoffrey :)|pg||
nt|ritong: he did not pull the third trump, seems|pg||
nt|hedyg: what did he do with the 2@ds in his hand?|pg||
nt|jcomyn: anyone know what the jackpot coup is|pg||
mb|p|nt|ritong: ruffed both|pg||
mb|p|nt|hedyg: we will be back at 14 30 CET, in 1 hour and 38 minutes|pg||
nt|roswolf: sorry thx to John as well|pg||
nt|granguru:  fortunatelly IMPs table doesnt punish you very hard after you already gave away a lot of IMPs in one hand|pg||
nt|jcomyn: and a very difficult thing to achieve|pg||
mb|1C|nt|jcomyn: 20 impps in last 2 boards|pg||
nt|roswolf: scheduled restart in 1hr 35 mins approx|pg||
nt|roswolf: scheduled restart in 40 mins time approx|pg||
nt|panja: 24 HCP with NS...not game is on...|pg||
mb|d|nt|glen: some styles like a 3rd seat 1@H here|pg||
nt|ritong: i suspect our operator anticipated a little:)|pg||
nt|hedyg: ah ok, didnt pull 3rd|pg||
nt|jfaria:  cant see anyone opening this auction|pg||
mb|2C|nt|ntmon: new leader - i didn't tell that during last few boards|pg||
nt|hedyg: not when KJ are behind :p|pg||
mb|2S|nt|mcarroll: yet another Major partscore hand|pg||
mb|p|mb|3C|an| |nt|hedyg: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswleaderb.html|pg||
nt|athene: west might try an aggressive 3@S now, thinking his @DKJx mesh nicely with his partner's diamond suit|pg||
nt|roswolf: 3nt by east|pg||
nt|hedyg: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswrunda6.html|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: in fact, of course, they mesh nicely with *north's* diamond suit|pg||
nt|athene: ok, 2@C then 2@S i guess|pg||
nt|roswolf: the pitiful crutch of 4SF |pg||
nt|athene: show an invitational hand but stop at the 2 level|pg||
nt|MolvaM: and not 5 minutes after conceding 1400|pg||
nt|hedyg: we will be back in 37 minutes|pg||
nt|roswolf: i think not|pg||
mb|3D|nt|roswolf: n/s will press on to game|pg||
nt|roswolf: an easy contract|pg||
mb|p|nt|hedyg: last board of this match now and of the Swiss teams|pg||
nt|hedyg: thanks to our outstanding operator in Poznan, Tadeusz ! to my excellent fellow commentators Geoffrey, Danny and David for donating their time and expertise to guide us through ...|pg||
nt|hedyg: these boards.our appreciation to the EBL and the PBF for bringing this event to BBO, especially Slawek Latala  who was intrumental in organizing these broadcasts on behalf of BBO|pg||
nt|panja: 2@S bid....I don't really like it..|pg||
nt|rmb1: 3@C stopper ask?|pg||
nt|panja: poor suit..poor shape....no need to bid in a live auction|pg||
mb|3H|nt|woozle: 4S is cold|pg||
nt|blum1956: 4@s could be made|pg||
nt|woozle: with CA onside, diamond position, spade position and no diamond ruff coming|pg||
nt|ntmon: 2@C may not be wise - who has the @S suit? probably partner, and is weak ...|pg||
nt|jcomyn: big finish for someone|pg||
nt|jcomyn: and it isnt lavazza|pg||
nt|ntmon: .. but this is not the case|pg||
nt|3for3: meck bought a nice hand from rodwell, who could have had nada.  K@D and stiff heart very useful|pg||
mb|p|nt|mcarroll: Yes but has to get @Ds right|pg||
nt|hedyg: can not be more than invite by passed hand|pg||
nt|hedyg: special thanks to our specs for joining and for your kind and helpful comments,we hope you enjoyed the show|pg||
nt|dburn: indeed - this match (though entertaining) doesn't matter - but there are some fierce qualification battles going on in both A and B flights|pg||
nt|hedyg: we will be back tomorrow morning with the Knockouts|pg||
mb|3N|nt|jcomyn: frying pan into the toaster|pg||
nt|athene: nope, he tries 3 anyway|pg||
nt|hedyg: A@C and @c switch might help|pg||
nt|hedyg: but that wont happen|pg||
mb|p|nt|roswolf: east will accept!?|pg||
mb|p|nt|woozle: McGann tries 4H, down one or two on a spade guess with the club hook failing|pg||
nt|hedyg: but 2@s should be enough|pg||
nt|hedyg: everything is friendly|pg||
nt|granguru:  Italoswiss is a kib with very good memory|pg||
nt|hedyg: ty all, bye for now!|pg||
nt|hedyg: help the defense ofc|pg||
mb|p|nt|woozle: down one...Fiona surely won't try the SK now|pg||
nt|blum1956: -50 against -140 or -170 is a useful 3 imps|pg||
pc|c3|nt|ntmon: X should secure @C lead against 3NT|pg||
nt|hedyg: 1 card out of 3 is on side|pg||
nt|rmb1: This club stop is not going to stand close inspection|pg||
nt|panja: luckily for NS..@HA is with E, and @DK, with West...|pg||
nt|panja: so there are 8 tricks..|pg||
pc|c5|nt|jcomyn: craziest contract of the week|pg||
nt|roswolf: north needs to avoid being endplayed here|pg||
nt|hedyg: i dont think he can get endplayed|pg||
nt|athene: endplay is unlikely because after ruffing a club and drawing trumps, west has no trumps left so a fourth club is fine|pg||
nt|3for3: i believe the higher you are, you get bonus in KO's, re selection of opponents.  Hedy posted the rule earlier|pg||
nt|hedyg: 10:00 AM CET|pg||
nt|hedyg: that is for teams 1-8, the rest are seeding as per EBL or WBF seeding points|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c2|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c9|nt|hedyg: even A@H and @H is fine|pg||
pc|cT|nt|woozle: I fear at this point that 3 isn't enough|pg||
pc|cA|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|ntmon: prediction? abstain..|pg||
nt|roswolf: indeed as it happens but still care needs to be taken|pg||
pc|d2|nt|jcomyn: hope no children are watching|pg||
nt|granguru:  some time ago I said whenever one player of each team tries to play the same suit, one of them is out of his mind. I was referring myself to the play of the cards thou|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d4|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d5|pg||
nt|panja: @CT on trick two was a smart play.. allowing a late entry to W hand with 4th Club..if needed|pg||
pc|dT|pc|d6|pc|d8|pc|d3|pg||
nt|hedyg: ty all, bye for now :)|pg||
pc|d9|nt|woozle: South could try for down two by ducking the first club|pg||
nt|athene: maybe @S6-@S4 is a subtle signal asking for a diamond|pg||
nt|athene: but bocchi can see it doesn't really matter i think|pg||
pc|s5|pc|h2|nt|panja: if W discards a @S..E will have to go up with @HA next trick..I guess|pg||
pc|s6|pg||
nt|roswolf: bye for now|pg||
pc|s2|nt|blum1956: Yes they need average 10.6 a bord to even the match|pg||
nt|athene: diamonds can't be going away|pg||
pc|sT|nt|roswolf: bye for now|pg||
nt|granguru:  bye all|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s8|pg||
pc|sK|pc|h6|pc|s4|pc|s3|pg||
pc|s9|pc|c8|nt|ntmon: last board of the set, big thx to our falwless! operator in Poznan, to all kibs who will continue to see the show, next round in a short time |pg||
pc|s7|pc|sQ|pg||
nt|woozle: Fiona needn't have bothered with the club finesse - couldn't work (Pepsi had passed and had shown ten points already)|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|h5|pc|c7|nt|roswolf: bye all for now|pg||
nt|athene: thanks all|pg||
nt|hedyg: bye for now !|pg||
nt|VugraphPLA: TD hasnt made decision about 17th board yet|pg||
pc|cJ|pg||
pc|c6|pc|h7|pc|h4|pc|h3|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h9|pc|h8|pc|hJ|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|hT|pc|sJ|pg||
nt|jcomyn: tx vladimir - lots of talking points in that set|pg||
pg||
qx|o25|st||md|3SAKQJ7HKQ9D73CK93,SHA42DAT94CQJT754,S852HJT73DKQJ2CA2,ST9643H865D865C86|sv|e|nt|bigtrain: getting to 3NT with the n/s cards is optimistic|pg||
mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|2C|nt|bigtrain: 2+ 10-15|pg||
mb|d|mb|p|nt|bigtrain: X = 3fit|pg||
nt|ritong: being in 3NT when meckwell aren't is a kind of achievement|pg||
nt|ady: 4@S comfortable in spite of 5-0 split|pg||
nt|bigtrain: LOL henri|pg||
nt|ritong: eheh|pg||
mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ady: 3NT also makes as they lay|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c2|nt|ady: support double by north|pg||
pc|c8|pc|cK|pg||
pc|sK|pc|c5|pc|s2|pc|s3|pg||
nt|daman: North "invented" the support double|pg||
pc|d7|pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d5|pg||
nt|ritong: it is a matter of philo|pg||
nt|ritong: either you support double with three whatever the hand|pg||
nt|ritong: in which case pass denies three|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c3|pg||
nt|ady: have to leave now     thx all|pg||
pc|s8|nt|ritong: or you play that a support double, especially at the two level, shows a relatively good hand|pg||
pc|s9|pc|sA|pc|c4|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|dJ|pc|d6|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d8|pc|c9|pc|d9|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|hK|nt|bigtrain: thx david|pg||
pc|hA|pg||
pc|h4|pc|hJ|pc|h6|pc|h9|pg||
nt|ritong: in which case pass does not deny three, just says " i dislike my hand"|pg||
nt|daman: making 5|pg||
nt|bigtrain: pass denies 3 for them|pg||
nt|daman: right|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|c25|st||md|3SAKQJ7HKQ9D73CK93,SHA42DAT94CQJT754,S852HJT73DKQJ2CA2,ST9643H865D865C86|sv|e|nt|woozle: Routine 4S for EW, hardly the stuff of which swings are made|pg||
nt|jcomyn: yes 1s by e|pg||
nt|andyv:  is that where the last 4 cards in dummy are the same denomination?|pg||
nt|andyv:  all Qs or Js, etc?|pg||
nt|jcomyn: no close|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|jcomyn: still no|pg||
mb|2N|nt|rmb1: On  21, NS ran from 3NTX ... to 4NT-2 :)|pg||
mb|p|mb|3C|an| |mb|p|nt|jcomyn: we should offer a prize for the right answer|pg||
mb|3S|nt|rmb1: In OR, EW did not bid 6@H on  22 but managed one more trick 4@H+3|pg||
mb|p|mb|4S|nt|rmb1: 3@S probably shows 5|pg||
mb|p|nt|jcomyn: here's a hint. Think in terms of a slot machine|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|cQ|pc|cA|nt|mcarroll: given the state of the match will they try for the @C slam?|pg||
pc|c6|nt|andyv:  9 tricks easy now|pg||
pc|c3|pg||
nt|mcarroll: which would certainly have faILED|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|c4|pg||
nt|panja: y.|pg||
nt|panja: better play might have been to win @CK and cash a trump...|pg||
pc|d3|nt|panja: now @ST9 are finessable..but entries are short..|pg||
pc|d4|pc|dK|pc|d5|pg||
nt|panja: so S will make only 10 tricks|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c8|pc|cK|pc|c5|pg||
pc|d7|pc|dA|pc|d2|nt|mcarroll: another 2 imps to Mahaffey|pg||
pc|d6|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|s8|pc|s9|pc|c9|pg||
nt|rmb1: Time running out for Netherlands Juniors still 36 adrift|pg||
pc|h5|pc|hQ|pc|h2|pc|h3|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|o26|st||md|4SQJ32HJT73DA6CQ65,ST8754HAQDT932CA4,SK9HK9642DKQ85CK8,SA6H85DJ74CJT9732|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|d|mb|p|nt|ritong: delicate decision|pg||
mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ritong: is that 4@h, walter?|pg||
pc|d2|nt|ritong: nope|pg||
nt|bigtrain: no natural|pg||
pc|d5|pc|dJ|pc|dA|pg||
nt|ritong: i ask, because there is a gadget consisting in bidding 3@h with 5 and 2NT with 4|pg||
pc|h7|pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h5|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|c9|pc|c5|pg||
pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|c6|pg||
pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s4|pg||
pc|s6|pc|sQ|pc|s5|pc|s9|pg||
pc|h3|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|h8|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|c26|st||md|4SQJ32HJT73DA6CQ65,ST8754HAQDT932CA4,SK9HK9642DKQ85CK8,SA6H85DJ74CJT9732|sv|b|nt|jcomyn: wouldnt want to come in with ther s hand|pg||
mb|p|nt|jfaria:  2 keycards missing = 4@s|pg||
mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|jfaria:  or at least something bellow 6|pg||
mb|1N|nt|panja: 24 HCP with NS again...will they bid a game?|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|rmb1: will they bid ... ?|pg||
nt|panja: well..interesting auction|pg||
nt|panja: only goes to support the modified point count I showed earlier..|pg||
pc|h3|nt|woozle: we seem to have lost a board. NS fetch up in a dull 1NT, making one or two|pg||
nt|mcarroll: oops|pg||
nt|mcarroll: yes 25 seems to have been skipped|pg||
nt|jcomyn: drop it like a hot spud with no reasl aces|pg||
nt|jfaria:  E showing slam intentionswith c@shortness |pg||
pc|hQ|nt|jfaria:  @c|pg||
pc|hK|nt|jcomyn: shortness even|pg||
pc|h5|pg||
nt|rmb1: North/South have been very "sound" for a pair of juniors :)|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h8|nt|jfaria:  wonder what 4 nt means|pg||
nt|panja: agree...far less immature..and more cautious that I would have imagines they would be|pg||
nt|panja: than...|pg||
pc|hT|nt|jcomyn: old blackwood i imagine|pg||
nt|andyv:  when watching an auction like this I feel the participents are going all the way to the edge of the cliff|pg||
nt|jfaria:  maybe, E showed !Q s :)|pg||
nt|jfaria:  Q@s|pg||
pc|hA|pg||
pc|cA|nt|jfaria:  was misguided by 5@s answer, but Cohler rightly "showed" the @sQ|pg||
nt|andyv:  I think 4@c was kc, 4@s showed 2 without and 4N asked for K ings|pg||
pc|c8|pc|c2|pc|c5|pg||
pc|c4|pc|cK|nt|andyv:  sorry, 4N showed 2 with and 5@s stopped|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c6|pg||
pc|h6|pc|s6|nt|jcomyn: give em their 2 aces and claim|pg||
nt|andyv:  it may well be that EW weren't on same page|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|s4|pg||
pc|h7|pc|s5|nt|panja: and they will get a non-vul game equivalent score for the passes here|pg||
pc|h9|pc|d4|pg||
pc|h4|nt|rmb1: Now set up @S|pg||
pc|c7|pc|s2|pc|s7|pg||
pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s8|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d6|pc|d2|pc|dK|pg||
mc|3|pg||
qx|o27|st||md|1SAJ542HK94DQCQT83,SQHQJ2DKT742CA976,SK863HA873DJ6CK42,ST97HT65DA9853CJ5|sv|o|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2N!|nt|bigtrain: 2NT = limit raise or better|pg||
mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|nt|daman: and now the penultimate board of this match|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 3@C = artificial GF|pg||
mb|4S|mb|p|nt|bigtrain: 4@s = limit|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|hQ|pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|hK|pg||
nt|ritong: we can see that meck is a tenant of " i accept game tries with any shortness no matter what"  good rule of thumb|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|s7|pg||
pc|s3|pc|sT|pc|sA|pc|d4|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|d2|pc|s6|pc|s9|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|h7|pc|hT|pg||
pc|dA|pc|dQ|pc|d7|pc|d6|pg||
pc|d3|pc|s2|pc|dK|pc|dJ|pg||
pc|h9|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pc|h6|pg||
pc|h8|pc|d5|pc|c3|pc|dT|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c5|nt|ritong: taddam|pg||
nt|ni hao: see you later?:)|pg||
nt|ritong: coinflip time|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|cA|pg||
pc|c7|pc|c4|pc|cJ|pc|c8|pg||
mc|9|nt|ritong: tails|pg||
pg||
qx|c27|st||md|1SAJ542HK94DQCQT83,SQHQJ2DKT742CA976,SK863HA873DJ6CK42,ST97HT65DA9853CJ5|sv|o|nt|jcomyn: give em their 3 aces asnd claim next hand|pg||
nt|andyv:  so 4@c was either a splinter, in which case 4N doesn't make sense or 4@c was RKC in which case 4N doesn't make any sense|pg||
nt|panja: I have to leave now, thx Robin, all|pg||
nt|rmb1: 4@S looks worth trying|pg||
nt|panja: bye|pg||
mb|1S|mb|d|nt|jfaria:  test|pg||
mb|2N|nt|andyv:  but at the end, no harm done|pg||
mb|3D|nt|rmb1: 2NT good raise|pg||
mb|4S|mb|5D|mb|p|nt|jcomyn: indeed but u are right. a kind of lemming sequence|pg||
mb|p|nt|rmb1:  23 saw NS play 5@H+1 in OR for another 10IMP to Mahaffey|pg||
mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|rmb1: EW believed 4@S making :)|pg||
pc|c8|nt|jfaria:  N a bit worried about the small @c doubleton|pg||
pc|cA|nt|jfaria:  but nothing he could bid besides 3nt|pg||
pc|c2|nt|woozle: McGann takes a wild swing at game, which should make on the favourable heart lie, even if she runs into a club ruff|pg||
pc|c5|pg||
nt|jcomyn: well s has an 18-19 nt so|pg||
pc|dK|nt|woozle: did she really duck the diamond?|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d3|pc|dQ|pg||
pc|d2|pc|dJ|pc|dA|mc|8|nt|jcomyn: that reminds me of a hand in istanbul when my p put me into 4s and i ran into a 5-0 break. He said he was worried about clubs. I had the AKQJ and won none of em|pg||
pg||
qx|o28|st||md|2S2H8763DA8763CAQ2,SAKJ9873HK42DJC96,ST65HJT5DQT954C54,SQ4HAQ9DK2CKJT873|sv|n|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2C!|mb|p|nt|vugraphpl5: this is last board|pg||
nt|vugraphpl5: next round (R16) will start at 15.30|pg||
mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4C!|mb|p|mb|4D|nt|vugraphpl5: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/or32runda1.html|pg||
mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|4N|mb|p|mb|5D|mb|p|nt|ritong: duh|pg||
mb|5S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ritong: an other subject to talk about for them|pg||
pc|c5|nt|ritong: 3@s should guarantee heavy hand, but not in terms of tricks|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|c6|pg||
pc|dA|pc|dJ|nt|ritong: say the 16/18 range is ok|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d2|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c9|pc|c4|pc|c3|pg||
mc|10|nt|vugraphpl5: thanks all|pg||
nt|vugraphpl5: see you soon!|pg||
nt|ritong: dzieki joanna|pg||
pg||
qx|c28|st||md|2S2H8763DA8763CAQ2,SAKJ9873HK42DJC96,ST65HJT5DQT954C54,SQ4HAQ9DK2CKJT873|sv|n|nt|andyv:  last board of this set|pg||
nt|jcomyn: holding KJ of s   K10 of h and K of  D what did he think i had to open 1nt|pg||
mb|4S|mb|p|nt|andyv:  North has had a couple of hands where he's been blessed with great spot cards|pg||
nt|jcomyn: gee that match ended very tamely|pg||
nt|jfaria:  last board no expected swings, cmon orange jrs lets make a fight of it :) only 1o imps behind against mighty Meckwell|pg||
nt|andyv:  a lot of 3N contracts|pg||
mb|p|nt|jfaria:  dont go away 2d half promises |pg||
nt|jcomyn: they have done well|pg||
nt|rmb1: This is the last board, thanks to Panja for commentating, thanks to the operator, and to EBL and BBO for organising|pg||
nt|rmb1: and thanks to Dutch kibs for support|pg||
mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|nt|jcomyn: ok folks thans to the kibs and to a great operator|pg||
nt|rmb1: Nice pressure 4@S opening|pg||
nt|rmb1: East send it back? (XX)|pg||
mb|p|pc|hJ|nt|mcarroll: so a pretty emphatic victory for Mahaffey|pg||
nt|jcomyn: have to go and play golf now - tough life|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h2|pg||
nt|jfaria:  2@d GF cb i presume|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|blum1956: Thx all, spectators and commentators. See you!|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s3|nt|andyv:  probably 2way new minor|pg||
nt|jfaria:  with 2 aces missing hard to make more than 11 tricks|pg||
pc|s5|pg||
nt|jfaria:  tuff lead |pg||
pc|s4|pc|h7|pc|sA|pc|s6|pg||
pc|sK|pc|sT|nt|jfaria:  Cohler thinks he must work a bit but cards lie really friendly for him|pg||
pc|c3|nt|andyv:  there went his chance for 12 tricks:)|pg||
pc|d8|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|d4|pc|c7|nt|andyv:  E hand much tougher problem in BAM event|pg||
pc|c2|pg||
pc|c9|pc|c4|nt|jfaria:  strange play by Cohler|pg||
pc|c8|pc|cQ|pg||
nt|rmb1: I fear another nail in the coffin 50+ IMP margin, can follow the end of the match in the other room|pg||
pc|h6|pc|hK|pc|h5|pc|h9|pg||
pc|c6|nt|andyv:  true, doesn't make any sense|pg||
pc|c5|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pg||
pc|dA|pc|dJ|pc|d5|nt|andyv:  now just cashing out|pg||
pc|d2|pg||
mc|10|nt|rmb1: Next round at 13:30 CET in 90 minutes|pg||
nt|rmb1: Bye thanks all|pg||
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