vg|A EC 2011 Open Teams 32 _,2_2,I,15,28,Ericas,30,Israel,37| rs|5SNx=,5SNx=,3NS+1,3NN=,2HN+1,2HN+1,3NW+2,3NE+2,1NS+1,1NE=,4HN=,4HS-1,3NS-1,3NN+1,4HE+3,4HW+2,5HS-1,4SEx-1,4HS-1,3NS-1,4SS=,4SS+1,3HN+1,3NS+1,3SS+1,3SS+1,4SW=,4SW=| pn|Buras,I Herbst,Narkiewicz,O Herbst,Ginossar,Martens,Pachtman,Jassem_K|pg|| qx|o15|st||md|1S53HA8D985CQJ8742,SHJT965DKQ632CKT6,SAQJT87642HK72DTC,SK9HQ43DAJ74CA953|sv|n|nt|jbgood: hi all|pg|| nt|rcerreto: hi everybody|pg|| nt|bagman: Hi all|pg|| nt|stc: hi, Place 25(89VP) against place 29(86), a large win will probably qualify|pg|| mb|p|mb|2H|mb|4S|nt|bagman: I would guess that Kanin qualifies with a win and Consus needs something better to qualify|pg|| mb|4N|nt|jbgood: 25 vs 29 - 27 teams from A go on to the KO stage|pg|| mb|d|mb|5D|mb|5S|mb|d|nt|jbgood: and 5 from B|pg|| mb|p|nt|bagman: A spade lead would give the 10th trick here|pg|| nt|jbgood: and duly found|pg|| nt|rcerreto: only an unlikely @h lead would surely set|pg|| mb|p|nt|stc: now home, down on a @H lead|pg|| nt|jbgood: 4@s was a good save|pg|| nt|bagman: South holds a good looking hand for a nonvulnerable preempt and can go to 4NT and expect to make it|pg|| mb|p|pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d3|pc|dT|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c15|st||md|1S53HA8D985CQJ8742,SHJT965DKQ632CKT6,SAQJT87642HK72DTC,SK9HQ43DAJ74CA953|sv|n|nt|bagman: Hi all|pg|| nt|jfaria: hi all|pg|| nt|runnerup: hi all|pg|| nt|kirp: ok looks we r ready|pg|| mb|p|nt|kirp: hello |pg|| mb|1H|nt|Gerben42: welcome back in Poznan|pg|| nt|davpro: Morning all|pg|| nt|Walddk4: yes h missing|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Please operator|pg|| nt|roswolf: a difficult grand to bid|pg|| nt|MolvaM: it seems bochi plays in both rooms :)|pg|| nt|danilo1: Ola Joao, Hi all|pg|| nt|kirp: interesting hand to start off with, NS in @Hs, EW in @Ds|pg|| nt|runnerup: here norht has 5-6 -majors and opened-now ew shoud find 5 @d that is the goal let see|pg|| nt|glen: the problem with 4@C is that 3NT is no longer possible|pg|| mb|4S|nt|roswolf: hi all|pg|| nt|roswolf: hi all|pg|| nt|glen: the good news is that W can't show both majors as over 3@C|pg|| mb|d|nt|hawe45: A splinter in North would do fine - in later defense|pg|| nt|jfaria: ola Danilo|pg|| nt|granguru: brogeland for Angelini team and zapadinski for Mirage arrived|pg|| nt|glen: with the @D layout, 5@C loses a @S and two @Ds|pg|| mb|p|nt|jbgood: hi|pg|| nt|davpro: Thx operator. It looked like an forcing pass-opening :)|pg|| mb|5D|nt|runnerup: this is 200 -not enought but ..|pg|| nt|toral5: hello all|pg|| nt|toral5: so we start with a cracker|pg|| nt|pelu: hi all|pg|| mb|5S|nt|davpro: Who is Brogeland playing with?|pg|| nt|roswolf: ty operator|pg|| nt|kirp: they need to take ruff quickly or 4@H makes|pg|| mb|d|nt|kirp: intersting hand to start off with|pg|| nt|granguru: this is round 6/7 of swiss stage in poznan, Poland|pg|| nt|kirp: looks like down 1 or 2|pg|| mb|p|nt|davpro: Ah- there the name came|pg|| nt|runnerup: @s ruff needed|pg|| nt|granguru: Looks like precision system in NS |pg|| mb|p|nt|hawe45: You have seen too manu bad overcalls, when you sell out with the North hand|pg|| nt|roswolf: missing the @DQ they have to diagnose they have extra trump length to compensate|pg|| nt|kirp: dangerous hand as 5@D makes EW|pg|| nt|glen: in 5@S there is a loser in each suit, and a @H ruff possible|pg|| mb|p|nt|kirp: looks like both pairs play some version of Precision @C|pg|| nt|glen: 5-over-5 bids have approximately a 90% chance of being wrong (you should have doubled instead)|pg|| nt|toral5: hi petur|pg|| nt|toral5: peter|pg|| pc|h4|nt|jfaria: routine 4@s 4 those 2|pg|| nt|toral5: as the cards lie 5@D is down 2|pg|| nt|pelu: so same contract in both rooms|pg|| pc|hA|nt|Gerben42: south hand is known as Bridge World Death Hand (BWDH)|pg|| nt|Gerben42: invitational values with 3-card support for partner|pg|| nt|bagman: South has a nice hand with spade values and N has an easy raise to game with 2 aces|pg|| nt|hawe45: East has built a trap - will remove to 5 @H, only losing 100 I think|pg|| nt|hawe45: Is there a reward for "slowest bid hand of the tournament" - without special reason...|pg|| nt|bridge_one: Hello all|pg|| nt|runnerup: hi all|pg|| nt|hawe45: Hello|pg|| nt|jfaria: Zaleski needs some results tocach up the playoffs |pg|| pc|h5|nt|Gerben42: with Qxxxx x Axxx xxx North would pass and 4@S would be cold|pg|| nt|roswolf: 1nt played the other way round - no spade lead|pg|| pc|h2|pg|| nt|danilo1: 4@S will make (prob. +1) .. .in ev. 5@D, declarer needs to guess @H (must play 9 from hand) for -2 |pg|| nt|runnerup: very dangerous I wander if 3nt was to play or some minors|pg|| nt|rv: Hi specs, warm regards from sunny Bangalore in South India|pg|| pc|s3|nt|Gerben42: but there is normally no perfect answer|pg|| nt|hawe45: What a nice board to start with. South must play East for the @C Ace - or West for the same card single or double...! And 5 @H is fine|pg|| nt|toral5: and 5s is a mek|pg|| pc|d6|nt|roswolf: 10 tricks are on ice here|pg|| nt|roswolf: players names will be up in a mo|pg|| nt|jbgood: going through the motions|pg|| nt|roswolf: 3 controls and west will ask for the queen|pg|| nt|roswolf: in the other room|pg|| nt|mcarroll: Morning Hans, all|pg|| nt|rv: Hi Ilya and Hans|pg|| nt|rv: Hi Martin|pg|| nt|hawe45: @D-lead, small @S back to defeat 5 @H|pg|| pc|sA|nt|runnerup: looks dangerous -all tricks possible|pg|| nt|davpro: W probably showed 4@s and E might have shown 4@h. I don't know their system :(|pg|| nt|granguru: 5@C could have been made NS|pg|| pc|s9|pg|| nt|roswolf: didnt bother played his pard for 3+ diamonds or the queen|pg|| nt|roswolf: 3@D may yhave promised 3+diamonds|pg|| nt|kirp: @S suit was hidden by N|pg|| mc|11|nt|MolvaM: who can hold Qxx diamonds? thats the question|pg|| nt|kirp: S must be disappinted that dummy has all 3 missing trumps|pg|| pg|| qx|o16|st||md|2SQJ2HQ976DA4CA875,SKT7HJT53DT7CKT92,SA854HK84DK95CQJ6,S963HA2DQJ8632C43|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|p|nt|jbgood: very good ladies|pg|| mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|nt|stc: no game for NS|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h3|nt|stc: one @d too much|pg|| pc|h4|nt|bagman: W likely to guess the trumps but there's still 4 top losers|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h7|pg|| nt|jbgood: the Kanin himself found his @h suit suitable for a 3 bid|pg|| pc|s6|nt|bagman: NS could have made 4@C losing 2 hearts and a diamond|pg|| nt|stc: interesting lead sacrifying a potential trump trick|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|s4|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s5|pc|s3|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c2|pc|cQ|pc|c3|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|d7|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cK|pc|c6|pc|c4|pg|| pc|s7|nt|jbgood: interesting is the correct description:)|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s9|pc|s2|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c16|st||md|2SQJ2HQ976DA4CA875,SKT7HJT53DT7CKT92,SA854HK84DK95CQJ6,S963HA2DQJ8632C43|sv|e|nt|eamongall: Here defence need to find the @C ruff in time to beat 4@Hs |pg|| nt|roswolf: 10 or 11 tricks operator?|pg|| nt|davpro: there was actually 12 to take (double dummie)|pg|| nt|pelu: hi all|pg|| nt|roswolf: solid start for the dutch|pg|| nt|MolvaM: good start|pg|| nt|roswolf: a fortuitous start for angelini|pg|| nt|roswolf: hu bill|pg|| nt|roswolf: hi bill:)|pg|| nt|roswolf: more spice here|pg|| nt|kirp: 1st board is not a nice way to wake up in the match|pg|| nt|kirp: slam in @Cs available here|pg|| nt|granguru: 6NT 6@s 6@c EW|pg|| nt|granguru: 6NT best contract|pg|| nt|granguru: 6@S worst one|pg|| mb|p|nt|davpro: 10 point all around. |pg|| nt|Walddk4: Welcome Peter and Murat|pg|| nt|MolvaM: hello|pg|| nt|athene: without the @DA Nunes would likely have led fourth best|pg|| nt|granguru: do u enter S?|pg|| nt|glen: W might start with Multi if that's available, or a 2@S weak two, or pass|pg|| nt|rv: North is G.Venkatesh, popularly known as Texas and based out of US, rest of team members from India|pg|| mb|1C|nt|bridge_one: with 6/5 and only 1 defencive trick normally better to play in attack|pg|| nt|danilo1: strang - when we look in names here|pg|| nt|granguru: red vs green?|pg|| nt|glen: N has a flat hand, best to pass, and it make go all pass|pg|| mb|1D|nt|Walddk1: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswrunda6.html|pg|| nt|pelu: prob 3NT - and hard work|pg|| mb|d|nt|runnerup: perhaps east should take it away -he has got support in hearts so ..|pg|| nt|jbgood: Angelini seems to be in the A Swiss almost no matter what happens in this match|pg|| nt|roswolf: now a hand for n/s to bid|pg|| nt|runnerup: these guys have good nerves,but average players can shake a bit after start like this|pg|| nt|granguru: 2@C relay FG I think|pg|| mb|p|nt|davpro: y and Mossop will need a good result to joij them|pg|| nt|roswolf: fulvio has seen his pard's bids before|pg|| nt|glen: *may go|pg|| nt|glen: S is in there with a X, not sure what the next bid would be if N bids 3@D|pg|| mb|1H!|nt|kirp: conservative pass by W|pg|| mb|p|nt|davpro: *join|pg|| nt|jbgood: 24 vps to Mossop |pg|| nt|jbgood: 3 from each group to A - the others to B|pg|| nt|pelu: hard decision by S - 4@H is down 1 and 5@c also down 1|pg|| nt|MolvaM: 5c looks good|pg|| nt|pelu: sorry 5@c making - only defense is @H lead and the @S - kill the entry for the 4. @D|pg|| nt|jfaria: 5! still cheap if opps bid game|pg|| nt|glen: 3NT does well on a @S lead|pg|| nt|glen: not as good on a @D lead|pg|| nt|rv: best for both sides to stay low here, all suits and cards lying wrong|pg|| nt|hawe45: Stay low - double-dummy North might make 4 @S on a @H-lead and -ruff|pg|| nt|rv: North might bite the bullet and pass here|pg|| nt|pelu: but a make if u duck @D first time and play @C from S's hand|pg|| mb|2D|nt|hawe45: About 12 tricks again - but lucky and only in South|pg|| nt|bridge_one: Jxxx in @D are very much - the double by Versace means balanced hand value in @S - Zaleski can reopen|pg|| nt|Walddk1: Zapadinski is playing at both tables. Could you please check, operator?|pg|| nt|kirp: not sure it is a relay, artificial and GF yes, now natural|pg|| nt|granguru: 2@s suit 3@C suit|pg|| nt|granguru: Angelini deciding to bid 4@C passint the 3N barrier|pg|| mb|p|nt|MolvaM: kibs rush in to tell me that if defence plays spades 5c cant make|pg|| nt|runnerup: @s finess off so no game on|pg|| nt|kirp: looks like game 1 down|pg|| mb|2N|nt|jbgood: then 27 from A and 5 from B go on to the KO stage|pg|| nt|davpro: They found a 6-1 fit instead of the 6-0 fit. On level higher though|pg|| nt|pelu: has to take 3x@C befor @D|pg|| nt|kirp: no blackwood here|pg|| mb|p|nt|eamongall: the non-vul Townsend might venture an insurance 4@Hs |pg|| nt|jbgood: but I think a black suit or even NT play better than @ds|pg|| nt|davpro: y|pg|| nt|roswolf: some sort of short suit trial bid?|pg|| mb|3N|nt|MolvaM: we see all 4 hands but sometimes at the table it is not obvious to shift to spades|pg|| nt|danilo1: 5@C is on ... and good to avoid 4@H, that is tempting in 4-3 fit (single @S on 3-card side)|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Welcome to Lech|pg|| mb|p|nt|bridge_one: so 2@C forcing one round|pg|| nt|hawe45: Best lead: @S King|pg|| nt|hawe45: Sorry - NORTH is declarer... - wake up|pg|| nt|pelu: yes defense has to kill @SA|pg|| nt|glen: running scores: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswrunda7.html|pg|| nt|glen: top 27 teams in Swiss A, and top 5 in Swiss B play tomorrow|pg|| nt|glen: here we have 25 against 29 in a likely elimination match|pg|| nt|glen: W is thinking, why did my partner play the beer card (@D7)?|pg|| nt|glen: is it because of the beer garden just outside|pg|| nt|glen: it couldn't be fourth best, could it?|pg|| nt|glen: E is thinking, I led fourth best, what's the problem|pg|| mb|p|nt|roswolf: south wont get in much to lead trumps|pg|| nt|hawe45: But would also make on the @S-lead|pg|| nt|bridge_one: lead small @S possible but @H equivalent - many use to overcall 1@S in West to give the lead|pg|| nt|bridge_one: with weak 5332 i agree to pass like Versace|pg|| nt|hawe45: But an overcall would put the contract in South, so...|pg|| nt|runnerup: nothing really helps,but contracts should have been by south this time -by n= -if spade lead,but now 12|pg|| nt|bridge_one: the option between @H and @S lead is a typical problem in bridge|pg|| nt|kirp: surprise pass by both!|pg|| nt|granguru: Angelini learns lessons..not passed this time..(as he did once with 10HCP)|pg|| mb|p|nt|eamongall: Now defence need to get active |pg|| nt|roswolf: 2nt|pg|| nt|granguru: HI ALL|pg|| nt|MolvaM: 4s has good chances|pg|| nt|granguru: HI ALL|pg|| nt|granguru: Angelini probably showed no first red control a singleton @c support and good @s not more than 5|pg|| nt|kirp: hard to get to NT played by E, never sure of 7th @C|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|MolvaM: with trump Kx inside and clubs 3-3 and the @dK safe|pg|| nt|lechcold: hello|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d7|nt|roswolf: and wont necessarily lead one anyway:)|pg|| nt|jbgood: hi Roland and all|pg|| nt|jbgood: sry - wrong table:)|pg|| nt|jbgood: maybe 2 |pg|| nt|mcarroll: Board 1 in Open - playing 5@S|pg|| nt|rv: good defense by Balicki here|pg|| nt|hawe45: Actually @D-lead would have worked better for the defense|pg|| nt|rv: @d lead might have been better for defense|pg|| pc|d5|pg|| nt|eamongall: still time |pg|| nt|bagman: N has to duck the @HK if W plays a low heart|pg|| nt|bagman: Both N and S know that there are no spade tricks to make|pg|| nt|MolvaM: even in the case of a spade shift, stuurman has to be very careful to keep all his diamonds and let his spade honor go|pg|| nt|pelu: also 3Nt in Or , but no @Dbid form East - and @H-lead from W - now easy|pg|| nt|pelu: but a strange lead @D was unbid suit|pg|| pc|s6|nt|bridge_one: i prefere to lead in the suit more solid, but without a solid suit i prefere the lead from small cards - but is is only a opinion|pg|| nt|jbgood: NT is more flexible than 3@d|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|bagman: They also see the clubs so they can make extra tricks only from trumps|pg|| nt|glen: spec tells me they may play 3/5 leads|pg|| pc|sK|nt|MolvaM: 46 teams playing in group A (27 will qualify), and 74 teams playing in group B (only 5 teams will qualify)|pg|| nt|kirp: win 1 imp|pg|| pc|sA|pg|| nt|kirp: ty, thought N would bit it|pg|| nt|granguru: if 5@H over 5@C there was a chance...|pg|| nt|rv: maybe @SQ was better at trick 2 instead of another @c|pg|| pc|h4|nt|athene: a stronger defence was diamond lead, heart back, then another diamond|pg|| nt|rv: now down with rounded suit overruffs|pg|| nt|mcarroll: Getting to hand a problem for S, ruffing earlier @C wd have worked better|pg|| nt|rv: excellent defense by Balicki, Keyzad could have possibly scored contract if he had played @SQ at trick 2|pg|| nt|rv: on accurate defense 2 @c over-ruffs and 2 @h ruffs including @SK trump promotion|pg|| pc|h2|nt|mcarroll: Open room have just got to the same contract|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h3|pg|| nt|runnerup: ok inspite off 9 points north desided to pass 3 -right this time -perhaps 3 small trumps and too balanced nd not vulnerable make that|pg|| nt|kirp: stopped in 3@S in OR, |pg|| nt|runnerup: no he raised --ok|pg|| nt|toral5: back.was away|pg|| pc|c5|nt|rv: I don't think he can still make contract, can see only 9 tricks|pg|| pc|c2|nt|jbgood: an imaginative E might bid 3@c then:)|pg|| nt|glen: in which case dropping the beer card on the table was wrong|pg|| nt|rv: even if Keyzad plays @SA and @SQ, he has only 9 tricks to the best of my analyses|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c4|pg|| nt|kirp: N's QJ of @Cs were too good to stop in 3|pg|| nt|runnerup: so -5|pg|| nt|kirp: in OR, W overcalled, hence any finesse rated to lose|pg|| nt|pelu: when u have QJ x and no 10's or 9'2 normal the best play is to play up to the low H's|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|sJ|nt|eamongall: At another table McGann Brown have reached the happy position of having 3 vulnerable doubled undertricks available against 4@S ...they still have to collect them |pg|| pc|s7|pg|| nt|roswolf: hi john|pg|| nt|MolvaM: hi john|pg|| nt|danilo1: good play .. 2 Dummy entries for (if needed) repeated @H finess|pg|| nt|rv: super defense by Balicki|pg|| nt|toral5: should try @S now|pg|| pc|s2|nt|Gerben42: going plus got to be worth something|pg|| nt|Gerben42: so far +100 is almost worth everything|pg|| nt|Gerben42: if Madala is N then S is Rimstedt|pg|| nt|Gerben42: operator please correct S name?|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s5|pc|s9|pg|| nt|bridge_one: i think finesse in @C give more % at declarer|pg|| nt|toral5: low @C now means a @C blockage cos @D will be shooted|pg|| nt|toral5: @D return is good now|pg|| nt|pelu: in OR @H-lead to A and then they wait 5 min for the next card from East :) 8O. Herbst)|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d9|pc|d2|pc|dA|pg|| nt|roswolf: the dutch duly gained 11 imps by bidding the grand|pg|| nt|kirp: so chalk this pickup due to sound overcalls|pg|| nt|toral5: after a 1@D oc,@H ace is a marked card with jassem.so only hope for declarer is @H ace stiff|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h5|nt|toral5: now @C are blocked|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hA|pg|| pc|d3|pc|c7|pc|c9|pc|dK|pg|| pc|s8|pc|d6|pc|c8|pc|cT|pg|| nt|lechcold: overtrick now|pg|| pc|hK|pc|d8|nt|toral5: still home though|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hT|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|cK|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hJ|pc|cJ|pc|dJ|pg|| pg|| qx|o17|st||md|3S9752H96D97CA8632,S3HJT7DKQT63CQ954,SKT4HAK8532DA52CK,SAQJ86HQ4DJ84CJT7|sv|o|nt|jbgood: good point|pg|| mb|1H|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|nt|bagman: the -50 EW paid is 50 better than the par (4@DX -100); might earn a couple of IMPs|pg|| nt|jbgood: you can follow the intense fight for a place in the Round of 32 here: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswrunda7.html|pg|| nt|stc: everybody 1NT with E's hand ?|pg|| mb|p|mb|2C|nt|bagman: Cannot X and do not like passing |pg|| mb|p|mb|2H|nt|bagman: Dangerous, sure, but the Opps steal you blind if you pass with that|pg|| nt|jbgood: i would rather double - too little intermediates|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|stc: looks like -2 or -3|pg|| nt|jbgood: cannot pass|pg|| pc|cJ|nt|stc: I am also for X, AJxx and Axx in majors look OK|pg|| pc|c2|nt|bagman: We might discuss about the relative merits of X and 1NT for quite long. In my opinion both have flaws and it's just the matter of taste and style|pg|| nt|rcerreto: yes, me too|pg|| nt|jbgood: Consus went down at both tables on the prev one - so another 4 imps for kaninen|pg|| nt|stc: A @c trick stolen, he has 5 sure tricks now|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cK|pg|| pc|d5|nt|stc: Note that defense can make 4@s 2@c and least 2@h|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d7|pc|dT|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|h6|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d8|pc|d9|pc|d3|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dJ|pc|h9|pc|d6|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|s4|pc|c7|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c9|pc|h5|pc|cT|pg|| pc|hK|nt|bagman: The defense in control now; declarer can make the tops only now|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|c6|pc|hT|pg|| pc|h2|pc|s6|pc|c8|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sT|pc|sQ|pc|s2|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c17|st||md|3S9752H96D97CA8632,S3HJT7DKQT63CQ954,SKT4HAK8532DA52CK,SAQJ86HQ4DJ84CJT7|sv|o|nt|runnerup: took 10 -so -1 imp|pg|| nt|MolvaM: here is the link to running scores http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswleaderb.html|pg|| nt|athene: interesting 3NT call by north in the other room|pg|| nt|runnerup: look 1nt / ns|pg|| nt|granguru: 1 imp for the overtrick|pg|| nt|granguru: 4@S EW depending on the @DK winning or not.|pg|| nt|rv: Balicki made 2 key plays, duck @CQ and return low @d when in with @SK, Keyzad still had a chance to ruff a @h and exit in @DJ instead of @CA and @c ruff|pg|| nt|toral5: no.9 only|pg|| mb|1H|nt|bagman: EW are currently 4th fighting for a medal|pg|| mb|1S|nt|kirp: the polish Club|pg|| nt|toral5: part score battle coming up|pg|| mb|p|nt|rv: Balicki was end-played when in with @dj if Keyzad had found play|pg|| mb|p|nt|jbgood: looks like a peaceful 3 NT by N|pg|| nt|jbgood: or S for that matter|pg|| nt|MolvaM: tokay-baldursson at the open room is a very new partnership which might explain why they couldnt find the grand|pg|| nt|athene: certainly a bit of a gamble but it paid off very nicely this time|pg|| nt|runnerup: east is not tesyed because north stoles hearts|pg|| nt|granguru: weak by N1NT |pg|| nt|jbgood: hi all|pg|| nt|granguru: weak 1NT by N|pg|| nt|kirp: unlikely to get to game now|pg|| nt|glen: 2@C is likely for the majors or some other two suited convention|pg|| nt|mcarroll: Looks like OR found the way to make this, defence not as good as here, E played @CK at trick 2|pg|| nt|rv: great hand for defense and declarer play|pg|| mb|2H|nt|kirp: rescue redbld|pg|| nt|granguru: may have specific types of hands|pg|| nt|hawe45: Nice 1 @D - natural?|pg|| nt|rv: yes North-South play 2/1 based methods|pg|| nt|rv: East-West play Polish @c|pg|| mb|p|nt|danilo1: looks like routine 4@H|pg|| mb|p|nt|runnerup: normal 4 @h = with no other ideas -from anyone -looks like it ,but..|pg|| nt|granguru: 2-suited continous is one|pg|| nt|granguru: 2@c asks |pg|| nt|granguru: 2@D = @d+@H|pg|| nt|jbgood: W's pass in this context is usually forcing|pg|| nt|jbgood: but not sure with angelini|pg|| nt|granguru: accepting 1NT xx eventually|pg|| nt|rv: Zmud has passed judiciously before Venkatesh started doubling|pg|| mb|p|nt|kirp: E should dble 2@C|pg|| nt|jbgood: yes|pg|| pc|cJ|nt|bagman: Rimsted clearly gambling with her heart suit|pg|| nt|davpro: yes. 9 easy tricks, but not the best communications...|pg|| nt|jbgood: 1 nt - 2 @h - 2 NT - 3 NT?|pg|| nt|toral5: what would have been a dbl by martens on 2h?|pg|| nt|toral5: never penalties.right?|pg|| nt|lechcold: heart lead was devastating for declarer, but impossible to find|pg|| nt|toral5: yes|pg|| pc|c2|nt|Gerben42: some would call it practical :)|pg|| nt|bridge_one: all colors taked by weak players :)|pg|| nt|bridge_one: North bid both, @D and @H|pg|| nt|jfaria: another routine game|pg|| nt|kirp: a @H lead is not good for defense|pg|| nt|kirp: N has 3 trix in the suit|pg|| nt|kirp: as now S can pass|pg|| nt|rv: I presume the first 2 deals had an effect on Keyzad to open this hand, he might have not opened normally|pg|| nt|mcarroll: Board 2 flat also -1|pg|| pc|c4|nt|MolvaM: misfit hand but contract seems makable|pg|| nt|roswolf: slam possible here perhaps|pg|| nt|jfaria: at least for us looking at 4 hands|pg|| nt|kirp: this will challenge N in the play|pg|| nt|granguru: took his time |pg|| nt|jbgood: but again - this prdship is not of very firm construction - so ....|pg|| nt|granguru: he "knew" S was going to say 2@d|pg|| pc|cK|pg|| nt|hawe45: Poor North - he thinks, he is facing an opening bid...|pg|| nt|lechcold: now 9 tricks I think|pg|| nt|toral5: is he making?|pg|| pc|d5|nt|athene: 6@S would not be great here even with the @D9|pg|| nt|kirp: @Ds are sitting wrong or maybe right given lack of entries to N|pg|| nt|toral5: yes|pg|| pc|d8|nt|pelu: 2@S in OR|pg|| nt|athene: the point being, on a club lead, you have to draw trumps and then cash four hearts to discard a club from the north hand|pg|| nt|runnerup: they might go down here|pg|| nt|glen: declarer knows where the @S ace, but where is the @S jack|pg|| nt|Walddk7: 2 segments of 14 boards in the R32, R16, QF and SF. 3 x 16 in the finals on Wednesday|pg|| pc|d9|nt|MolvaM: the first non-alert after 3 rounds of bidding :)|pg|| pc|dT|pg|| nt|jbgood: N should know that the @c king counts for full - and bid 3 imo|pg|| nt|kirp: S is happy|pg|| pc|h7|nt|davpro: They stopped low, but if @ds are not 3-3 a higher contract would be a struggle|pg|| nt|kirp: now N has a problem|pg|| nt|granguru: a terrible contract|pg|| nt|jbgood: W will not be|pg|| nt|kirp: 100 a trick|pg|| nt|kirp: i make down 3|pg|| nt|granguru: 1@s 2@h 2@D 1@c|pg|| nt|granguru: but may be only -2|pg|| nt|jbgood: E should ask himself why E didnt jump in hearts (or bid them directly) - because he had 2 suits:)|pg|| nt|kirp: not easy lead|pg|| pc|hA|nt|danilo1: @CQ lead may create some playing options ... cashing 2 @H immediatelly may be loosing option|pg|| nt|granguru: if @c help to discard|pg|| nt|rv: I might have slightly devalued and re-opened 1n with North hand instead of double of 1@s|pg|| pc|h4|nt|granguru: now -2 as said|pg|| pc|h6|pg|| nt|roswolf: although the bidding thus far is cloaked in mystery they seem to be powering into it|pg|| pc|dA|nt|Gerben42: with a bit more fortune it would have been a claimer|pg|| nt|bagman: In pairs it might not be that practical as the bonus for the game is not that big as in teams|pg|| nt|granguru: no no|pg|| nt|granguru: yes yes|pg|| nt|granguru: S ruffs @cq but loses a natural trump trick |pg|| nt|granguru: no fast entry in S hand to cross @D|pg|| nt|glen: odds are still the 1NT bidder has it, so he picks up the trump suit|pg|| nt|glen: E can win this or the next to switch to @Ds for his ruff|pg|| pc|d4|nt|bridge_one: duck this @D could be a idea|pg|| nt|hawe45: Gives the same result, if South plays safe|pg|| nt|bridge_one: but give at south the chance to fault|pg|| nt|danilo1: well done|pg|| pc|d7|nt|roswolf: 4@S MIGHT BE FINIS|pg|| nt|roswolf: and it is not sure what happened there|pg|| nt|MolvaM: at the other table, tokay asked for keycards and then asked for the trump queen apparently. why??|pg|| nt|roswolf: very true|pg|| pc|d3|pg|| nt|hawe45: Absolutely|pg|| nt|MolvaM: on the previous board|pg|| nt|athene: actually i guess it would be ok (provided the hearts come in)|pg|| pc|d2|nt|jbgood: 27 teams from A and 5 from B go to the KO stage - with no carry over|pg|| nt|jbgood: running scores: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswleaderb.html|pg|| nt|jbgood: Boye is used to playing tough contracts - but most often there is a glimmer of hope to win:) not so here|pg|| pc|dJ|nt|pelu: the @D-lead gave S a fine tempo|pg|| pc|h9|nt|kirp: that looks like 6 trix for declarer|pg|| nt|granguru: 19 teams are playing for Poland|pg|| pc|dQ|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c5|nt|MolvaM: west was somewhat stuck for a good lead|pg|| nt|pelu: 110 = 9 IMP for Monaco|pg|| nt|runnerup: trying to help parner well done -now surely down|pg|| pc|s4|nt|jfaria: claim is near|pg|| pc|c7|pg|| nt|toral5: on a trump lead may be he was down 2|pg|| pc|c3|nt|glen: sorry, her ruff|pg|| pc|c9|pc|h2|nt|kirp: so it is down 3|pg|| pc|cT|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hQ|pc|s5|pc|hT|pg|| nt|jbgood: the point is that you create swings when you dont bid games on 26 combined |pg|| pc|sT|pc|sJ|nt|rv: now @S shift and I can see 3 more tricks for defense|pg|| pc|s2|nt|davpro: To be fair against N. 2N from S was perhaps a bit low (aswell)|pg|| nt|kirp: another 5 imps for EW|pg|| pc|s3|pg|| pc|sA|nt|jbgood: I am sure this wil be a game swing for Angelini|pg|| pc|s7|pc|d6|pc|sK|pg|| nt|granguru: better would have been to duck second @h into N hand|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o18|st||md|4SJ983HAT82D962C85,SKQHK96DAKT8CKQJ3,ST654HJ75DQ74CT92,SA72HQ43DJ53CA764|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s6|pc|s2|pc|sJ|nt|stc: bif misfit in majors, 3NT should work|pg|| pc|sK|pg|| pc|cK|nt|rcerreto: will N seat for 3NT?|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c4|pc|c8|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|jbgood: strange - these guys tend to bid 3 NT on most game hands|pg|| nt|bagman: If 2@D was FG, N might have tried 2NT on 2@S to see the reaction|pg|| nt|jbgood: i thin N should bid 2 NT over 2@s - and not 3@s|pg|| nt|jbgood: sry Pekka |pg|| pc|c2|nt|rcerreto: I think that S, with 3-5-1-4 would have bid 2@s over 1@s with a minimum hand|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c5|pg|| pc|cJ|nt|stc: W must open @c now|pg|| nt|rcerreto: 2@s is therefore likely a doubleton|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cA|nt|rcerreto: then, yes 2NT would be more appealing than 3@s|pg|| pc|d6|pg|| pc|d3|nt|stc: if not dec may come home loosing only A@h and 2@s|pg|| pc|d2|nt|bagman: Declarer hoping that the ruff was with a trump trick|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|s4|nt|stc: perhaps not|pg|| nt|jbgood: Kanin won the first 3 boards - all may be lost on this one|pg|| nt|stc: but E must play a trumpo after the next @h ruff|pg|| nt|stc: of course dec may draw trump now and go down$|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s8|pc|sQ|pg|| nt|stc: good move|pg|| pc|h6|nt|stc: now TRUMP !|pg|| nt|bagman: Declarer still needs a parking place for two diamonds|pg|| pc|h7|nt|stc: right, and ruffind with the Q@s gives defense the setting trick|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg|| mc|11|nt|rcerreto: he needs E to be out of trumps|pg|| pg|| qx|c18|st||md|4SJ983HAT82D962C85,SKQHK96DAKT8CKQJ3,ST654HJ75DQ74CT92,SA72HQ43DJ53CA764|sv|n|nt|bagman: with both spades and diamonds open 3NT requires some luck|pg|| nt|davpro: So, with less and 3-4-1-5 distibution he would always pass?|pg|| nt|jbgood: yes|pg|| nt|MolvaM: zmud has 5-5 reds again|pg|| nt|MolvaM: anyway...|pg|| nt|MolvaM: another lively hand|pg|| nt|roswolf: another freakish deal|pg|| nt|athene: west isn't quite worth 2@H i think in their style|pg|| nt|kirp: that was down 1, wasnt it|pg|| nt|kirp: it went down 2, so S led a @D back and squeezed pard|pg|| mb|p|nt|roswolf: hi all|pg|| nt|pelu: 5@h is max|pg|| nt|jfaria: slam zone|pg|| nt|kirp: VG, need to fix score on 23|pg|| nt|runnerup: yes -i think so too --this 3nt must be played by east or 5 loosers can come up|pg|| mb|p|nt|granguru: 7@S in the OR|pg|| mb|1C|nt|bridge_one: same defence in other room |pg|| nt|athene: their 2-level openers are 10-13 and only really, really huge 9-counts qualify|pg|| nt|roswolf: indeed not now here come the fireworks|pg|| nt|athene: in third seat, of course, things are relaxed a bit... :)|pg|| nt|roswolf: :)|pg|| nt|kirp: Is E's dble penalties?|pg|| nt|kirp: 7@S or 6@Ds|pg|| nt|toral5: where do we see the live scores?|pg|| mb|p|nt|athene: north will lebensohl his way to 3@H i guess|pg|| nt|roswolf: can west rdbl for blood here?|pg|| nt|rv: after 3 tricky hands, easy 4@s deal to calm nerves|pg|| mb|2N|nt|bridge_one: 2@H is limited at 9 hcp 3 cards raise|pg|| nt|roswolf: indeed|pg|| nt|MolvaM: 3rd slam hand in a row?|pg|| nt|jfaria: better in @d|pg|| nt|danilo1: if ev. 6@S ... @C lead or @H and @C switch may be vital|pg|| nt|danilo1: *is vital for defense|pg|| nt|danilo1: ... rite contract (unbeatable) is not 6@S ... but 6@D ... guess difficult to come there |pg|| nt|runnerup: so double for takeout -problems in bidding by west perhaps|pg|| nt|jbgood: sure well bid to get to the grand|pg|| nt|hawe45: And good for time schedule also|pg|| mb|p|nt|runnerup: you have to guess well to make 4 @h -but that is bedt|pg|| nt|hawe45: A poor 4 @H - but you might be forced to "guess" right|pg|| nt|bridge_one: East is evaluating what bid|pg|| nt|runnerup: this @d lead asked may help to get rid off spade looser|pg|| nt|jbgood: choice between dbl and 1 NT...|pg|| nt|jbgood: pass never an option for Boye on a near opener|pg|| nt|roswolf: lebensohl is heading n/s into danger here|pg|| nt|athene: well, whether he can or not, he didn't|pg|| nt|lechcold: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/or32runda1.html|pg|| nt|pelu: running score : http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/or32runda1.html but no scores yet from 2. segment|pg|| nt|toral5: no slam makes here|pg|| nt|toral5: with a combined strength of 33|pg|| nt|pelu: 32 :)|pg|| nt|toral5: ouch.@S jack hiding for me:(|pg|| nt|toral5: what is 2nt opening for ew?|pg|| nt|pelu: 2 very flat hands, so no good play for 6NT (6@c)|pg|| mb|3N|nt|roswolf: east will leap high|pg|| nt|MolvaM: leader board and running scores http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswleaderb.html|pg|| nt|roswolf: but is it high enough|pg|| nt|athene: sometimes if you redouble in these auctions you help opps because they now have more room to scramble for the best fit|pg|| nt|toral5: seems they play 2nt opening=minors weak|pg|| nt|pelu: polish @c here|pg|| mb|p|nt|jbgood: but defense may start with 3 spades and 5 hearts|pg|| nt|roswolf: this is where south needs discipline|pg|| nt|kirp: EW play a strong @C, so this shows points|pg|| mb|p|nt|jbgood: not any more|pg|| nt|davpro: 8 quick tricks for defense here on a spade lead. 7 for declarer on that lead|pg|| nt|jbgood: 7 th in the bag|pg|| nt|athene: also you warn them with borderline hands to stay low|pg|| nt|roswolf: 3@S WHATEVER IT MEANS SEEM OVER THE TOP - WEST SHAPENS HIS AXE|pg|| nt|athene: so here for example if west had redoubled, south might well have decided his partner didn't have what was needed|pg|| nt|roswolf: sharpens|pg|| nt|jfaria: 4@c must be @d |pg|| mb|p|nt|MolvaM: lets see if they can locate the missing @d control|pg|| nt|roswolf: they should do|pg|| nt|roswolf: the flexible double|pg|| nt|roswolf: ouch is comming|pg|| nt|toral5: did he really bid 3nt with 21?|pg|| nt|lechcold: I believe Martens-Jassem play strong club when NV|pg|| nt|pelu: well done by Martens - Jassem hasa absolut max for a passed hand|pg|| pc|h8|nt|bagman: Declarer needs to ruff the heart losers and discard a club on a diamond|pg|| nt|hawe45: UNDO|pg|| nt|MolvaM: spade honors not so attractive for madala|pg|| nt|roswolf: this may well be passed|pg|| nt|roswolf: south has nothing to cue and has soft club values|pg|| pc|h9|nt|kirp: I think pass followed ny pass or 3N would have been better bid by E|pg|| nt|rv: this could be one of the worst possible draw for Texan Aces, they started tourney very well and topped their group consisting of Bessis, Payne and qualified for Swiss A with 3 VPs ...|pg|| nt|rv: c/o|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|roswolf: they dont have a lot of hcp to spare|pg|| nt|pelu: in OR NS in 6@H - looks like S gave a false cue bid in @D - but it was an artifical bidding over 6 round|pg|| nt|MolvaM: wow thats enterprising|pg|| nt|roswolf: i think the italians are merciful|pg|| nt|kirp: not well bid here|pg|| nt|kirp: thought this was a strong club auction|pg|| nt|jbgood: most pairs have bid to 7 - but a few rested in six, and even fewer in game|pg|| nt|glen: this lead will not trouble declarer too much|pg|| pc|hQ|pg|| nt|MolvaM: in another table north could go with J2N and that might be a problem|pg|| nt|danilo1: exactelly ... if Alfredo decides to try more than 4@S ... he will not bid Diamonds :)|pg|| nt|danilo1: I believe 4@C was just cue|pg|| nt|jfaria: 456 kibs tell me 4@c is just a cue |pg|| nt|jfaria: being a cue, no way to reach @d :(|pg|| nt|Walddk1: Not likely as we only have 285 here|pg|| pc|d5|nt|roswolf: i am told they are in slam in the other room|pg|| nt|roswolf: well he still likes his hand|pg|| nt|jfaria: just a figure of speach :)|pg|| nt|danilo1: NS have done very well to enter bidding ... if South pass, EW would have time to find @D |pg|| pc|d6|nt|MolvaM: well even if diamonds are not led. no way to get rid of the 2 losers|pg|| nt|roswolf: and that is enough for norberto:)|pg|| nt|MolvaM: does 4s have any specific meaning?|pg|| nt|MolvaM: or just an old fashioned cue?|pg|| nt|rv: they lost a bit of steam in Swiss A with lacklustre performance and could finish only 21st with 107 VPs after 7 rounds, that performance has contributed tough draw here|pg|| pc|dT|nt|runnerup: no fight now just posible over tricks |pg|| nt|roswolf: yes i want to bid on and i have a spade control|pg|| nt|roswolf: the latter|pg|| nt|roswolf: this seems an easy-ish make|pg|| pc|dQ|pg|| nt|bagman: The @DA must be with E: if W has it, then E has the clubs|pg|| nt|hawe45: But how can you play bridge - NOT leading partners suit with Ace-x???|pg|| nt|hawe45: You MUST have seen too many bad overcalls|pg|| nt|bridge_one: 2@H now|pg|| nt|MolvaM: try both finesses and hope that the @d10 takes care of itself|pg|| nt|roswolf: the pass of 4@S said dont lead one i am told:) so he follows his own suggestion:)|pg|| nt|Walddk1: Good morning to Glen Ashton|pg|| nt|glen: hi|pg|| nt|jfaria: hard to tell probably Lauria would treat is hand as single suited..|pg|| nt|toral5: lol|pg|| pc|h5|nt|pelu: very controles bidding here|pg|| nt|roswolf: safe enough here|pg|| nt|athene: declarer's concern on a diamond shift is whether to finesse the @C9|pg|| nt|roswolf: now off|pg|| mc|11|nt|athene: but i don't think he will|pg|| pg|| qx|o19|st||md|1SAHK865DJ8653CJ43,SQ32HJ72DA74CAK82,SKT876HT93DKQ9CQ6,SJ954HAQ4DT2CT975|sv|e|nt|rcerreto: he needed the winning @h to live|pg|| nt|jbgood: right|pg|| nt|rcerreto: with @s initially 3-3|pg|| nt|jbgood: correct|pg|| mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|nt|rcerreto: I'm unconvinced by the @h lead with 5 good trumps but that's another matter|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c2|pc|c6|pc|c9|pc|cJ|pg|| nt|stc: 6@d by E looks very good, not from W|pg|| nt|rcerreto: this treatment, to use 2@d as a GF, is gaining favour|pg|| pc|d6|nt|bagman: W denying spade support quite loudly|pg|| nt|rcerreto: as loudly as possible! :)|pg|| pc|d7|nt|stc: only a @h defeats 6@d|pg|| pc|dK|nt|bagman: 6@D requires trumps 3-2 and additional luck; no crime missing it|pg|| pc|d2|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dT|pc|d8|pc|d4|pg|| pc|d9|pc|s4|pc|d5|pc|dA|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cQ|pc|c5|nt|stc: agree, but when you need a large win in a short match you have go for luck !|pg|| pc|c4|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s6|pc|s5|pc|sA|pg|| nt|bagman: Sure, or wish that the opponents bid it and go down|pg|| pc|dJ|nt|bagman: Against Norwegians, I would go for the latter :)|pg|| nt|jbgood: :)|pg|| pc|h2|pc|s7|pc|c7|pg|| pc|d3|nt|jbgood: a decent win is enough for both these teams i think|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s8|pc|h4|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c8|pc|sT|pc|cT|pg|| pc|s9|pc|h5|pc|s2|pc|sK|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|h7|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hJ|pc|h3|pc|hA|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|h8|pc|cA|pc|h9|pg|| pg|| qx|c19|st||md|1SAHK865DJ8653CJ43,SQ32HJ72DA74CAK82,SKT876HT93DKQ9CQ6,SJ954HAQ4DT2CT975|sv|e|nt|Gerben42: after 1@C the E hand is too big for 4@H I guess|pg|| nt|bagman: NS can make a minor suit slam|pg|| nt|bagman: Maybe EW have some Namyats type of device over 1m openings|pg|| nt|Gerben42: 3N-2 was only worth 20%|pg|| nt|Gerben42: last round not finished yet?|pg|| nt|bagman: If N can show real clubs, S hand becomes very valuable with the source of tricks, heart control and trump support|pg|| nt|Gerben42: if it starts 1@C 4@H, what does S bid?|pg|| nt|Gerben42: 4NT perhaps|pg|| nt|bagman: but E has a hand where she can prevent NS from changing that information. After 1@C, E can bid 4@H and then?|pg|| nt|Gerben42: esp. tough if 1@C can be short (3 or even 2 cards)|pg|| nt|bagman: if 4NT shows primary diamonds and secondary clubs then it's the bid|pg|| nt|Gerben42: the problem with such a bid is - what will pd think it is|pg|| nt|bagman: I wouldn't be surprised if there are some other agreements for the meaning of 4NT|pg|| nt|bagman: or no agreements :)|pg|| nt|Gerben42: this is an area where regular partnerships are ahead of the game|pg|| nt|bagman: 6@HX is 500; it's better than the vulnerable game for EW so they might take the sac|pg|| nt|runnerup: 11 in both tables and we though how to make 10|pg|| nt|MolvaM: specs tell me slam makable if no @d lead|pg|| nt|MolvaM: well if you can duck a diamond and then squeeze somebody afterwards :) maybe|pg|| nt|MolvaM: not sure if this play was superior|pg|| nt|roswolf: yes|pg|| nt|roswolf: for running scores http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswleaderb.html|pg|| nt|athene: south could make 6 of a red suit here if only he could get to dummy twice (lead the @H7 picks the suit up)|pg|| nt|roswolf: there will be some fun and games here|pg|| nt|athene: sorry - of course he can do it|pg|| nt|athene: lead to @SA, and lead the small heart|pg|| nt|athene: then later get to dummy with a heart and lead a diamond to the queen|pg|| nt|athene: easy!|pg|| nt|roswolf: hmm perhaps not at the table -in the bidding|pg|| nt|athene: only needs east to have @HHx and @DKx|pg|| nt|roswolf: game not reached at the other table|pg|| nt|athene: hampson-greco playing precision so 1@D is nebulous|pg|| nt|athene: south can be very aggressive if he knows his partner actually has some diamonds|pg|| nt|athene: but not when it might just be two small|pg|| nt|roswolf: indeed these kind of hands are horrible for strong club systems|pg|| nt|roswolf: or less bill|pg|| nt|athene: well it's at least a doubleton for them i think; they use 2@D for the short diamond hands|pg|| nt|vugraphplc: Nunes call director|pg|| nt|roswolf: short of bds!?or something wrong with the last hand?|pg|| nt|vugraphplc: becouse 2nt invit or forsing |pg|| nt|athene: hmmm - they are not happy about something from the previous board, i guess|pg|| nt|athene: ah - you mean nunes was told that 2NT was showing a good hand and that is why he didn't double?|pg|| nt|danilo1: this is anothe swing possibility|pg|| nt|danilo1: meant 6@D (@S)|pg|| nt|kirp: score is really 25-10|pg|| nt|granguru: a very expensive hand|pg|| nt|granguru: which will most probably decide the winner of the match |pg|| nt|fabsayc: our postal system on rotating strikes|pg|| nt|glen: next door the other room tried the 5-2 @S fit, and ran into the 5-1 trump split|pg|| nt|mcarroll: Weak 2 from N?|pg|| nt|hawe45: I hope not...!|pg|| mb|p|nt|Gerben42: something to be said for 5@H overcall too|pg|| nt|bridge_one: in 4@H in other match one made one down|pg|| nt|hawe45: 5 @D N/S should end the auction|pg|| nt|roswolf: wont make much difference anyway|pg|| nt|runnerup: ns has a good score open room ew has some 2h to make|pg|| nt|rv: they need to strike in the first segment when Zimmerman is playing, no disrespect, but Helgemo-Helness is mch tougher proposition in second segment |pg|| mb|1C|nt|MolvaM: if trumps were 3-1 he would have to fall back on the @d hook|pg|| nt|granguru: 1 NT 13-15|pg|| nt|glen: that was 10 imps, bring this "elimination" match to a near tie|pg|| mb|1S|nt|bagman: against a strong 1@C 5@H would be fine|pg|| nt|runnerup: 3nt also,but ew can bid more|pg|| nt|hawe45: We have seen such hand make 2 @H - and 6 @C...|pg|| mb|1N|nt|roswolf: 4@S here is the likely spot|pg|| nt|roswolf: a heart partial would be sensible|pg|| nt|toral5: very thin 1@S oc|pg|| nt|toral5: but very common these days.5332 is often ignored:)|pg|| nt|pelu: 1@S very normal - would u pass? :)|pg|| nt|toral5: yes.i pass:)|pg|| mb|p|nt|bridge_one: 5@D can be beated with @S lead|pg|| nt|runnerup: no just loose that|pg|| mb|p|nt|runnerup: small from table |pg|| nt|jbgood: some lucky day you make 6 @s on this lot - but not today|pg|| nt|athene: 1nt now? :) - he does have seven stoppers in the unbid suit|pg|| nt|roswolf: the diamond suit now consigned to the dustbin|pg|| nt|athene: i bet a lot of partnerships don't know what a jump in 4th suit means|pg|| nt|athene: i.e. 3@D here - is that natural forcing, natural non-forcing, or what?|pg|| nt|roswolf: what is wrong with a natural 1@D RESPONSE?|pg|| nt|glen: peaceful 4@h here|pg|| nt|danilo1: NS need to stop on time (5@H still on time) ... ev. 4@S or 5@D by EW will be too expensive|pg|| nt|jfaria: 3@d ends any slam mess in N/S intentions|pg|| nt|rv: I might have opened 3@h with North hand, here Venkatesh had bid 3@h as fit jump showing @hs+@cs|pg|| nt|mcarroll: yes shows the benefit of Muiderberg stle 2 suiter openings|pg|| nt|mcarroll: style|pg|| mb|p|nt|kirp: should make this for push|pg|| nt|runnerup: true ew can not tough clubs so looser gous so @s later|pg|| nt|rv: I don't like to pass with such shapely hands with most of values in my longest suit, 3@h opening for me even at these colors |pg|| pc|d5|nt|roswolf: south is sensible|pg|| nt|MolvaM: west also :)|pg|| nt|MolvaM: would have been interesting to watch 3@dX|pg|| nt|athene: no-one ever bids a strong 7-card minor if they have a major of any description|pg|| nt|pelu: I am know as a solid overcaller - and I would bid 1@S 100 out of 100 - take the 1. level from opp nd suit ok|pg|| pc|d4|nt|bridge_one: after pass at 5@C @S lead became possible|pg|| nt|hawe45: Lightner...|pg|| nt|bridge_one: @S ruff, K @C - declarer lose the ruff, one @C and A@H|pg|| nt|roswolf: yup he had the colors to help him|pg|| nt|athene: i think officially in SAYC a jump in 4th suit is defined as natural and invitational|pg|| nt|glen: ok, a quiet 5@H|pg|| nt|mcarroll: 3@H must be a fit jump|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|runnerup: ok wrong hand|pg|| nt|hawe45: No right hand|pg|| nt|bridge_one: many pair use pass at 5@C like OK to lead @C, instead DBL means to lead in another suit|pg|| nt|bridge_one: but i don't know the gadget played by E/W|pg|| nt|jbgood: investigating for a club contract (slam?) and got no reaction of a positive kind |pg|| pc|d2|pg|| nt|runnerup: so it was all academical|pg|| nt|glen: 1@H likely a transfer to @S, 1NT may have denied 3+@Ss|pg|| nt|fabsayc: if you are going to play transfer advances, i think you have to open west hand with 1@D (polish+walsh style)|pg|| nt|toral5: i am an old book student of sound over calls|pg|| pc|dK|nt|bagman: Malinowski has very little defense and can hope that they go down only 3|pg|| nt|athene: but it's one of those dark corners that no-one knows about|pg|| nt|roswolf: 1-5-7-0 will not be an obvious shape to the defenders|pg|| nt|fabsayc: is close however since singleton spade is an honour|pg|| nt|hawe45: Then just face the facts - open 1 @H in North|pg|| pc|dT|nt|athene: @SK to the ace, diamond finesse i guess|pg|| nt|danilo1: guess will not miss the jead after bidding :)|pg|| nt|kirp: this should make 5, for no swing|pg|| pc|d3|nt|bridge_one: now np|pg|| nt|MolvaM: trump lead effective stop a club ruff|pg|| nt|athene: fantoni might stick the @DK in|pg|| nt|roswolf: but north made a normal if aggressive raise to the vul game|pg|| nt|danilo1: *lead|pg|| pc|d7|pg|| nt|pelu: kibs - if u know EW-bidding then help us :)|pg|| nt|glen: the Qx of @C here is a help to 3NT|pg|| nt|fabsayc: the spade lead from north is strange however|pg|| pc|d9|nt|bagman: Good time to take the save; in pairs taking an 800 save against a making slam is not a way to win; normally you should take your chances and try to beat the slam|pg|| nt|jbgood: @d cue was what S did NOT want to get|pg|| nt|granguru: last hand N knowing p had 4@s cards misvalued his hand|pg|| nt|hawe45: Now you were unable to tll partner, that you had such a suit|pg|| nt|rv: good start by Zmud here, best to force dummy in @s|pg|| pc|c5|nt|davpro: But from Ns view; doesn't it seem as if S hasn't got a @h cue?|pg|| pc|d8|pc|dA|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|athene: now declarer is worried the @DQ might get ruffed, so he would like to lead a diamond from dummy|pg|| nt|athene: but entries are a bit on the short side|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s4|nt|jbgood: N looks to take no notice...|pg|| nt|jbgood: S bid well - N somewhat undiciplined - slam is more like a Roland one (which in the old days would be called a Norwegian slam)|pg|| nt|kirp: q@C next?|pg|| nt|kirp: knows S has another @S, so needs to take out entry|pg|| pc|sA|pg|| nt|davpro: This could take a while, but will end with 1 down...|pg|| nt|jbgood: If N has the @c Q in stead of the @d Q his hand would be better though|pg|| pc|dJ|nt|bagman: (unless the slam is such that everybody bids and makes it)|pg|| nt|pelu: also here, but if u pass this N's hand u sh find another game :):)|pg|| nt|toral5: agree pelu.thats y i m learning chess|pg|| pc|s2|nt|athene: when you have a hand like south's, your worst nightmare is getting forced, losing trump control|pg|| nt|glen: spec notes this board played in 6@D by Lavazza, and is also 6@D by Kamras|pg|| pc|s6|pc|c9|pg|| pc|d6|nt|MolvaM: 2 slams equalized the score|pg|| nt|hawe45: But 4 "H seems to be NO winner, @S Ace and a small @S|pg|| nt|lechcold: 1@S very normal, 10HCP, quite good intermediates in Spades|pg|| nt|toral5: may be @S shift by north wd have beaten this|pg|| pc|c2|pc|hT|nt|roswolf: this is on track|pg|| nt|granguru: expected some losed points in @C..|pg|| pc|s5|pg|| pc|c3|nt|glen: Kamras made 6@D, thanks to Qx of @Cs, how about Lavazza?|pg|| nt|hawe45: 4 @H|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c6|nt|jbgood: another swing for Angelini i reckon|pg|| nt|athene: if things go badly wrong you can end up an embarrassingly large number down|pg|| pc|c7|pg|| pc|h2|nt|granguru: lost..sorry|pg|| pc|h3|nt|athene: but all is well|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|jbgood: running scores here: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/orrrunda7.html|pg|| nt|davpro: Kopecky made 6@s against Rosenthal on the j of @c lead...|pg|| pc|hK|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|cQ|pc|cT|pg|| nt|pelu: 1Nt = 6-11|pg|| nt|roswolf: an effortless 11 tricks|pg|| nt|pelu: 2@C = @C, 2@D relay|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s7|pc|s9|pc|h5|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|o20|st||md|2S5HKQT9842DQ7CK74,SK732H6D832CAQ863,SAJ64HAJ3DA65CJ95,SQT98H75DKJT94CT2|sv|b|nt|stc: what do you call decent ? Consus is currently 32nd|pg|| mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|stc: for Kanin yes, they started with 3 more VP|pg|| nt|bagman: Consus have 101 and Kanin 104; Kanin in qualifying position|pg|| nt|rcerreto: this is a much better 6@d|pg|| nt|jbgood: decent is anything between 18 and 21|pg|| nt|jbgood: (or 20)|pg|| nt|rcerreto: getting there won't be easy|pg|| nt|bagman: They might miss the diamonds completely|pg|| nt|rcerreto: after S's preempt|pg|| nt|stc: after a @h preempt|pg|| mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2H|nt|bagman: if Brekka preempts to 4@H|pg|| mb|p|nt|rcerreto: as he duly did|pg|| nt|stc: and the obligate 4@s in fit 5-2|pg|| mb|4H|nt|bagman: W might pass and take the money|pg|| mb|p|nt|jbgood: may go all pass - not often spades behave after the preempt|pg|| nt|stc: not much money to take|pg|| nt|bagman: Sometimes partner is 5-1-3-4 and spades break badly|pg|| nt|rcerreto: should he?|pg|| nt|rcerreto: +300 wouldn't be a large reward|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|sT|pc|s5|pc|s2|nt|stc: for me pass is not an option|pg|| pc|sJ|pg|| pc|hA|nt|bagman: W should bid if he would be sure to bid to the best contract; if he cannot be sure, he might be changing decent plus to minus|pg|| pc|h7|nt|rcerreto: point is: what is "decent"?|pg|| nt|bagman: I'm not recommending pass; I'm just suggesting it as an option|pg|| nt|rcerreto: let S have 8@h as he could have|pg|| nt|jbgood: :)|pg|| nt|bagman: 300 would be decent against -100|pg|| nt|rcerreto: and you get an hefty 100|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h6|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h5|pc|h4|pc|d2|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s8|pc|d7|pc|s3|pg|| pc|h3|pc|d9|pc|h8|pc|c6|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|d4|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c9|pc|cT|pc|c4|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c20|st||md|2S5HKQT9842DQ7CK74,SK732H6D832CAQ863,SAJ64HAJ3DA65CJ95,SQT98H75DKJT94CT2|sv|b|nt|bagman: If declarer planned to steal a the spade, she should have tried it before drawing trumps; the early play should have been either the steal attempt or claim -3 :)|pg|| nt|bridge_one: in other room the auction was different, so the lead was @C|pg|| nt|jbgood: nice major fits around the table|pg|| nt|jbgood: I may just have to stand corrected - i am told that Angelini in the OR also bid to 6 @s|pg|| nt|davpro: There will be (high) bidding :)|pg|| nt|MolvaM: leader board and running scores http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswleaderb.html|pg|| nt|granguru: 2@c is normally in Pre a trump ask|pg|| nt|granguru: 2@D showed min 4 cards..|pg|| nt|rv: another big swing for Monaco Z here, Texan Aces have to stem the rot quickly|pg|| nt|hawe45: Here carefull defense against 4 @H is needed - do´nt touch the @D-suit|pg|| mb|p|nt|roswolf: 4@S seems to be good here|pg|| nt|runnerup: a little under 1/2 game in @h so will be bidden vulnerable |pg|| nt|Walddk1: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswrunda5.html running now|pg|| nt|granguru: 8-10 usually |pg|| nt|rv: I think in last deal, Texas could have bit 4@h on the way to 5@c|pg|| mb|1C|nt|roswolf: this could be colorful|pg|| nt|kirp: 4@Hs went down in OR, looks close to making|pg|| mb|1D|nt|MolvaM: 2d alerted?|pg|| nt|roswolf: yeah @D:)|pg|| nt|MolvaM: ok means no 4 card spades|pg|| nt|rv: no harm in telling Keyzad that he had good 6 bagger|pg|| nt|toral5: !G game is safe from souths hand|pg|| nt|toral5: @H|pg|| nt|pelu: do u know NT-range by NS? |pg|| nt|toral5: kib says 15-16|pg|| mb|4H|nt|bridge_one: 3@H for N/S and 3@S for E/W here|pg|| nt|runnerup: may end for double partscore swing|pg|| nt|MolvaM: thanks kibs|pg|| nt|roswolf: yes they use 1NT to show 4 spades +a longer minor|pg|| nt|MolvaM: Im told zmud-bal play the raptor convention |pg|| nt|roswolf: west has an automatic 4@S|pg|| nt|MolvaM: maybe invented by a mr raptor? :)|pg|| nt|pelu: par-contract is 6@d - 5@s and 5@d making|pg|| nt|MolvaM: west thinks abt how many spades to bid?|pg|| nt|pelu: red against green 4@S is fine|pg|| nt|roswolf: n/s comphrensively outbid the americans on the last one|pg|| nt|runnerup: yes better actually -was down anyway |pg|| nt|kirp: this is all str @C, negative 1@D |pg|| mb|p|nt|bridge_one: 2@H open probably 10/12 constructive (and 2@D multi)|pg|| nt|davpro: When preempting with 3 in a minor you normally do not have a 4 card major. Nothing said about 5 card suits :)|pg|| nt|roswolf: even on 3 rounds of trumps|pg|| mb|p|nt|jbgood: hehe|pg|| nt|roswolf: DBL presumably just shows cards|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Welcome to Gy Szalay|pg|| nt|szalay: hi all|pg|| nt|roswolf: and here a thin 3nt|pg|| nt|athene: hi|pg|| nt|roswolf: hi:)|pg|| nt|granguru: 3@D can be alternate suits that is @D+@S|pg|| nt|granguru: more @d |pg|| nt|granguru: S knows finesse is not working. can establish @C but no fast entry to dummy|pg|| nt|granguru: to throw @H|pg|| mb|p|nt|roswolf: well now judgment comes into it|pg|| nt|MolvaM: 5 level belongs to the opps :)|pg|| nt|pelu: diff to decide on 5-level|pg|| nt|roswolf: south tempted to bid 6?|pg|| nt|MolvaM: zmud cant be sure of void spades so will probably pass|pg|| nt|athene: 1@C natural (ish), strong (ish) and forcing|pg|| nt|szalay: N-S are a rare pair from Hungary: they r not from Budapest|pg|| nt|szalay: from our Sun City, Szeged, and could improve a lot thx to BBO|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Are you saying people don't play bridge outside Budapest?|pg|| nt|pelu: I am told 15-17 - and then N's hand = 1NT|pg|| nt|toral5: but barring this hand.lol|pg|| nt|toral5: south PLEASE dont DUCK @D|pg|| nt|pelu: but here Sapan: I would never overcall 1@D|pg|| nt|toral5: thank u pelu:)|pg|| pc|d3|nt|pelu: for sure W cant bid 5@s - but I have been wrong before :)|pg|| nt|kirp: 4@S looks like a strange bid?|pg|| nt|toral5: hopefully he will play @C properly|pg|| nt|toral5: match getting closer;only 2 imp deficit|pg|| nt|toral5: @D duck will be fatal|pg|| nt|toral5: now 1 imp|pg|| pc|d5|nt|bagman: Having showed 44 majors and getting no reaction from partner, W could show his 3 card support expecting to be in a decent trump suit|pg|| nt|jfaria: @s will prevail |pg|| nt|runnerup: strange bidding to worse game but mames now|pg|| nt|kirp: strangely enuff, its cold|pg|| nt|kirp: now with the lead|pg|| nt|kirp: play 3 trumps, then finesse in @Cs for @D pitch|pg|| nt|kirp: good bid by E!!!|pg|| nt|kirp: S is wondering how to keep down undertrix|pg|| pc|dK|nt|eamongall: If anybody is following a pair you can find their probable table from the following |pg|| nt|jbgood: Boye may lead a club now and get a plus score ag 5|pg|| nt|roswolf: i think it was the @C position which influenced him more|pg|| nt|roswolf: not much to the play the club ace is right or it isnt:)|pg|| nt|athene: if west invites, east might bid it on the strength of the good club suit, even though he is minimum in terms of hcp|pg|| nt|szalay: not really, they r from Szeged and few pairs from Pecs|pg|| pc|d7|pg|| nt|bagman: S wants to compete but the majors are behind her so she gives up|pg|| nt|bridge_one: Q@C help ,,, opps |pg|| nt|toral5: oh my god|pg|| nt|pelu: at many tables played by N (1Nt and tranfer) - down on @C-lead|pg|| nt|toral5: why this duck?|pg|| pc|cT|nt|szalay: Hungary is more or less Budapest orientated, bridge is even centralized|pg|| nt|athene: difficult lead problem for south|pg|| nt|glen: should be three aces and a trump|pg|| nt|runnerup: in other table declarer took advantise off that same lead to put @d looser away ,but lost control because 4-1 and K -offside in @h contract|pg|| nt|glen: 4@S works well here on the 3-3 @S breat|pg|| nt|fabsayc: rather tame bidding|pg|| nt|glen: break|pg|| nt|hawe45: As always - trump-lead|pg|| pc|c4|nt|bridge_one: OK|pg|| nt|roswolf: the clubs can of course be set up here for 12 tricks|pg|| nt|pelu: 1@H - 4@D - 4@S - 5@D and 51S by Helgemo!|pg|| nt|pelu: 15 INP to Monaco |pg|| nt|MolvaM: no so easy if east ducks|pg|| nt|athene: north could have made life easier, perhaps, by doubling 1@H|pg|| nt|athene: but he finds the heart anyway|pg|| nt|roswolf: indeed|pg|| nt|athene: some play a double of these transfer responses as some sort of takeout double anyway|pg|| nt|athene: for example after nebulous 1@C - 1@H [spades], X = diamonds and hearts, and 1@S = clubs and hearts|pg|| nt|Walddk4: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswrunda3.html|pg|| nt|athene: but without special agreements of that sort i would have thought double would just be hearts and 1@S would be takeout, the same as after a transfer over 1nt|pg|| nt|szalay: Mr. Zsak is teacher of Szeged bridge, he was teacher of Mr. Cseho of other table when he attended Faculty of Medicine there. as u know: he is my psychiatrist:)|pg|| nt|kirp: unless E thinks playing for a simple @H finesse is better option!|pg|| nt|granguru: a deceptive move|pg|| nt|glen: now Benito might or might not lead his singleton @D here|pg|| nt|glen: @D lead, A, @D ruff, @H to the Q, and rats, that's ruffed!|pg|| nt|fabsayc: his rule is a bit too rigid to be the absolute truth|pg|| nt|glen: we were out in the beer garden when the TD came by to get us all back in this match|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|granguru: but defense is obvious|pg|| nt|rv: frozen @d suit, can't see a way for Zmud to make this |pg|| nt|hawe45: No - but often opponents find the way...|pg|| nt|hawe45: Double-dummy it´s lay-down|pg|| pc|c5|pg|| nt|jbgood: even 6@h a good save over 4@s:)|pg|| nt|jbgood: spade ace and a club takes it 1 down|pg|| nt|davpro: Defense better take their tricks at once...|pg|| nt|danilo1: 140 I believe|pg|| pc|cA|nt|jbgood: north really bid his hand to the limit:)|pg|| nt|MolvaM: 27 teams from group-A will qualify for the knockouts. and 5 teams from group-B|pg|| nt|athene: :)|pg|| nt|athene: east might try ducking in dummy and dropping the @H10 to induce north to lay down the @HK|pg|| nt|athene: but that would only work if south would lead the @H9 from @H9xx|pg|| nt|szalay: as u know: we, Hungarians try to avoid D lead vs NT|pg|| nt|athene: D = doubleton or diamond?|pg|| nt|szalay: diamond|pg|| nt|rv: Anklesaria can duck this, win @HK and play @SA and @ST to prevent any mess-up on normal line of play|pg|| pc|c9|nt|MolvaM: 15 how? 5s cant be made I think|pg|| nt|jfaria: peacefull partscore|pg|| nt|hawe45: You see...|pg|| pc|c2|nt|eamongall: We are covering tables 8-15 as shown on the results web page ... so the bottom 8 lines are tables H G F E A B C D in that order |pg|| nt|jbgood: @s 6 for a club now|pg|| pc|c7|pg|| nt|jbgood: Boye should be able to read that|pg|| nt|roswolf: and probably on this layout so can 6@D|pg|| pc|c6|nt|athene: declarer can't untangle his black suits here|pg|| nt|hawe45: You look around the table - and you take your decision|pg|| nt|rv: terrible start by Key-Texas here, each bad result and being on Vu-graph is adding up|pg|| pc|cJ|nt|szalay: Diamonds for girls, u know|pg|| nt|granguru: S is trying that EW moves @S |pg|| nt|toral5: shocking play.it at all he played for @C ace with jassem,still @D ace is safe\|pg|| nt|toral5: deservingly gone down|pg|| pc|h5|nt|eamongall: http://b.poznan2011.pl/mxp/fa.html|pg|| pc|cK|pg|| nt|davpro: E could hold 764 from W view|pg|| nt|pelu: S dont know that he has a "sure! @C-trick and exp @CA or Q by East (overcall)|pg|| mc|9|nt|runnerup: some creek gift so to say|pg|| nt|glen: did declarer really skate to dummy to play another @H?|pg|| pg|| qx|o21|st||md|3SQJ6HQ8DAQJ64CJ86,SAK984HT7643DT83C,S72HKJ9DK2CAK9743,ST53HA52D975CQT52|sv|n|nt|rcerreto: as the late Kaplan used to say:|pg|| nt|jbgood: 2 down was cheap?|pg|| nt|rcerreto: penalty doubles are meant to be left in|pg|| nt|rcerreto: take out doubles to be taken out|pg|| nt|jbgood: but he lived in the time of pen doubles|pg|| nt|rcerreto: well, not exactly|pg|| mb|1C|nt|rcerreto: Edgar wasn't a stoneage man|pg|| nt|rcerreto: he did play takeout doubles|pg|| mb|p|nt|jbgood: no - but doubles have expanded since then|pg|| nt|rcerreto: definitely|pg|| mb|2H|mb|2S|nt|rcerreto: another interesting board|pg|| mb|3C|nt|bagman: Here 4@S makes and 5@H is a good sac|pg|| mb|p|nt|vugraphpld: S alerted 5@c|pg|| mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3S|nt|stc: 5@c must be a choice|pg|| mb|p|nt|bagman: was not for lead|pg|| mb|3N|nt|bagman: as N was on the lead|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|sT|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d8|pc|dK|pc|d5|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dT|pc|s7|pc|d9|pg|| pc|dJ|nt|vugraphpld: N apologize to your partner|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hJ|pc|h5|pg|| pc|d6|pc|h7|pc|h9|pc|h2|pg|| pc|c8|pc|h4|pc|cA|pc|c2|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c5|pc|c6|pc|h6|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h8|pc|hT|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cJ|pc|s8|pc|c3|pg|| pc|cT|pc|s6|pc|s9|pc|c4|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|c7|pg|| pc|sA|pc|c9|pc|s3|pc|hQ|pg|| pg|| qx|c21|st||md|3SQJ6HQ8DAQJ64CJ86,SAK984HT7643DT83C,S72HKJ9DK2CAK9743,ST53HA52D975CQT52|sv|n|nt|hawe45: 4 @S making - good luck|pg|| nt|jbgood: playing for the singleton jack with E:) |pg|| nt|davpro: @c to T was obviously wrong if E has 2 @c...I'm sleeping|pg|| nt|jbgood: not the precentage play:)|pg|| nt|davpro: no- @c 2-2|pg|| nt|jbgood: yes|pg|| nt|jbgood: sleeping too:)|pg|| nt|roswolf: yes angelini not getting their own way|pg|| nt|kirp: so its 25-20 actually|pg|| nt|runnerup: feeling bid perhaps|pg|| nt|kirp: 25-22 sorry|pg|| nt|kirp: this looks like easy 3N NS|pg|| nt|glen: and there you have it, never a dull moment|pg|| nt|glen: clever 1NT bid in the other room|pg|| nt|rv: Anklesaria has already shown @SA and can't have both @DA and @HK for passed hand|pg|| nt|rv: well played Zmud|pg|| nt|rv: Z-men are getting everything right here, expected from world class players|pg|| mb|1N|nt|bridge_one: 5@H 2 down|pg|| nt|granguru: Nunes went 1 off i 4@H here|pg|| nt|kirp: NS may get to game in @Hs, not a succcess|pg|| nt|kirp: 2 opening bids, hard to sotp|pg|| mb|p|nt|roswolf: hmm mysterious|pg|| nt|pelu: @H AK |pg|| nt|MolvaM: ahh defence played @hAK|pg|| nt|szalay: funny, that I read interviews about Fantunes-Angelini affair this morning|pg|| nt|jfaria: now a choice between to major games|pg|| nt|glen: but W is not selling out cheaply here|pg|| nt|fabsayc: south is forced into a view at this turn|pg|| nt|fabsayc: still the odds are west is about to raise spades, so bidding 3@H is not unreasonable|pg|| mb|3N|nt|jfaria: sure not|pg|| nt|kirp: 1@H a transfer|pg|| nt|kirp: 1@D is unbalanced hand, so I guess N does not want to go 4 penalties|pg|| nt|glen: modern bridge: 3 value showing bids, and you have 14 high card points|pg|| mb|p|nt|pelu: its so easy when u see all 52 cards - try to take place behind the player and only see 26 cards|pg|| mb|p|nt|roswolf: not a good result for hungary in the other room|pg|| nt|runnerup: ok this if any must be 3nt all around ,but I have learned not to say it aloud,because something not so normal seems to happen somewhere in all boards |pg|| nt|hawe45: Suicide opening|pg|| nt|toral5: where do you expect @C ace to be?|pg|| mb|p|nt|bridge_one: 4@S correct bid !|pg|| nt|MolvaM: well that was a bit of a careless defence I thk|pg|| nt|roswolf: indeed|pg|| nt|roswolf: dont like the spade overcall|pg|| nt|MolvaM: well the alternative is also not attractive|pg|| nt|jfaria: 4@d says nothing about @h i presume, just shows fit/short|pg|| nt|glen: N's pass would be forcing for most, after the 4@D shortness bid|pg|| nt|glen: now S has to decide if his hand is gold, or straw|pg|| nt|glen: W cuebids and now that lets N show @H support|pg|| nt|glen: if W had bid 4@S, N would have a choice of bidding or passing|pg|| pc|c2|nt|jbgood: 5@s made on the unfortunate lead of the @c ace next door|pg|| nt|jbgood: doubled to boot|pg|| nt|rv: Zmud normally will pass with any semi-bal hand|pg|| nt|toral5: why would i talk after seeing 52 cards?|pg|| nt|toral5: you precisely play east for q10 @C.than @D duck is correct|pg|| nt|pelu: after 1Nt - 3Nt I hate to lead minor - often we have better attack in major|pg|| pc|cJ|nt|roswolf: transfer to spades|pg|| nt|roswolf: 1@H|pg|| nt|szalay: I doubt anyone could miss a game here|pg|| nt|kirp: 1@S denies 4 @Ss|pg|| nt|rv: normal contract for E-W is 3n which has no play on @s lead ducked|pg|| nt|hawe45: Seems to be 500 for charity|pg|| pc|h7|nt|runnerup: north has not found hearts obfiously -so svedish increasing lead perhaps|pg|| nt|jfaria: depending on agreement|pg|| nt|danilo1: Gold may see @C shortness ... and bid 5@S ... however, not easy choice ...|pg|| nt|kirp: my explanations are all hypothetical here, have no idea what Poles are actually playing|pg|| nt|glen: wow, S lets 4@S by with a 6-5|pg|| pc|c3|pg|| nt|bagman: E doesn't want to lead from her collection|pg|| nt|bagman: Every card might be right or wrong|pg|| nt|roswolf: but lavazza may suffer in the end|pg|| nt|szalay: and I wd like to be in 4S, anyway|pg|| nt|athene: most bid more than 1@S with four-card support but i am sure they will unravel it all|pg|| nt|roswolf: OH I COULD VERY EASILY:) |pg|| nt|szalay: this game about vulnerable bonuses, more or less|pg|| nt|roswolf: might not be good play but.....|pg|| nt|danilo1: correct action - hand looks like double fits|pg|| nt|kirp: I guess 2@Cs EW can be held to 4 trix|pg|| nt|jbgood: nunes might have won it - but forgot to pull trumps, and opps got a @d ruff|pg|| nt|fabsayc: depends how you interpret the double, does it invite a sac, i think so|pg|| nt|toral5: missed the lead here|pg|| nt|pelu: so my "normal" lead would be a @S from East - here killing :)|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|roswolf: well a simple 4@S on this one|pg|| nt|MolvaM: but congrats geoffrey for yr prediction powers|pg|| nt|jfaria: that is a nice discussion about ownership of the hand|pg|| pc|h6|nt|szalay: bridge wd be a very boring game if we could bid seen by both hands|pg|| pc|h9|nt|toral5: and that surely is WITHOUT seeing 52 cards:)|pg|| nt|pelu: my analyse is: 1: I dont like to lead minor, 2: @S or @H, 3: @HA entry,so: @S|pg|| pc|h2|pg|| nt|MolvaM: u sensed that defence coming and predicted 5s making :)|pg|| nt|roswolf: this is cheeky|pg|| nt|MolvaM: wasnt a very scientific sequence|pg|| nt|MolvaM: but effective apparently|pg|| nt|MolvaM: looks like he will establish the 5th heart|pg|| nt|MolvaM: for his 10th trick|pg|| nt|roswolf: yes methinks he is very lucky|pg|| nt|jbgood: that is the legitimate downer lead:)|pg|| nt|granguru: problem is what to do with @D if you take 3 round of trumps|pg|| pc|h8|nt|pelu: easy game here - time to go for coffee :)|pg|| nt|pelu: but go fast :)|pg|| nt|MolvaM: here is the running scores and current ranking http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswleaderb.html|pg|| nt|kirp: ruff a spade and 3 rounds of trumps and hope something good happens |pg|| pc|h3|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pg|| nt|kirp: oops|pg|| nt|glen: 2@Cs and a @D only, and this makes|pg|| nt|lechcold: ducking @D in 20 was not bad...it loses only if East has 1-2 small clubs|pg|| pc|h5|nt|MolvaM: 46 teams playing in group A (27 will qualify), and 74 teams playing in group B (only 5 teams will qualify)|pg|| nt|roswolf: you need to qualify for SWISS A then:)|pg|| nt|rv: if Texas had opened 3@s, Balicki might have bid 3n or doubled (close decision) and if he had doubled Zmud might have bid 4@c which is last making contract for E-W|pg|| pc|c6|nt|szalay: I predict 3 imps for Angelini|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hK|pg|| nt|danilo1: Bd 14 - peacefull 4@S in OR too ... so no swing|pg|| nt|glen: versace not cooperating|pg|| nt|glen: he will only win third @S play|pg|| pc|dK|nt|MolvaM: goes for the crossruff|pg|| pc|d5|nt|hawe45: Trump-lead, North then ducked the @D...|pg|| nt|lechcold: if U win the first trick, then U still have a @C guess ( 20)|pg|| pc|d4|nt|kirp: not sure why that @S play|pg|| pc|d3|pg|| pc|d2|nt|roswolf: i oncerad a statistic -if after a normal opening bid you bid game whenever you are vul you gain on average 8+ imps unless your opps double 66% of the time!: i doubted those stats ...|pg|| nt|roswolf: at the time but i am getting more convinced the more i play/watch the game|pg|| nt|roswolf: once read|pg|| nt|granguru: for that you must end in summy and play @D to the Q ..if E takes you repeat the process|pg|| nt|jbgood: no need - Boye never got his @d ruff - I really wonder why|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dA|nt|MolvaM: ohh|pg|| nt|szalay: if u watch (and especially play) more, u know more:)|pg|| nt|kirp: declarer may only take 9 trix here.|pg|| nt|runnerup: seems to have +1 in any case anyway |pg|| nt|kirp: he does but does not know @Ds dont run|pg|| nt|kirp: may not take @C finesse as not necessary!|pg|| pc|d8|pg|| nt|danilo1: danger is too loose trump control ... or to loose @C trick ... probably -1 as will try 3 @H in West|pg|| nt|kirp: its easy here but ruffing the spade before last trump puts you in dummy for a @D lead|pg|| nt|pelu: agree Leck, the duck is with odds|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|rv: what would panel bid on 3@s opening with East hand? X or 3n?|pg|| pc|dT|nt|hawe45: 3 NT - always|pg|| pc|c4|pc|d9|pg|| nt|granguru: 12 imps for Mirage|pg|| nt|kirp: a true mirage|pg|| nt|granguru: now up 22-18|pg|| nt|kirp: for E|pg|| pc|dJ|nt|jbgood: X-files was nothing compared to this - you really dont believe it - even if you see it:)|pg|| pc|s4|pc|c7|nt|MolvaM: lost his way|pg|| nt|toral5: yes.but we are allowed to guess correctly|pg|| pc|s3|pg|| nt|roswolf: this is not the best line- if you overcall on that garbage you need to play it well|pg|| nt|kirp: ok making 4|pg|| pc|d6|nt|athene: on a club lead north could rise ace and play another :) now declarer might finesse as his only chance to make|pg|| nt|athene: thinking north might have @CAQx and be trying to scare him out of a winning play|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s2|pc|s5|pg|| pc|c8|nt|bagman: Declarer was sure about 7 tricks and had a shot for 9 (diamonds 3-3); he did not want to try anything in hearts because he might have lost 4 spade tricks|pg|| nt|athene: that would be the two down|pg|| nt|szalay: re|pg|| nt|roswolf: rehi|pg|| nt|athene: welcome back :)|pg|| nt|lechcold: 7-1 @D was unlikely IMO|pg|| pc|s9|pc|cA|pc|c5|pg|| nt|szalay: hope u missed me (and my sarchastic view)|pg|| nt|athene: so just one down and 3 imps as predicted|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cT|pc|s6|pc|sK|pg|| nt|kirp: score is 25 23, so closer than VG indicates|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cQ|pc|sJ|pc|hT|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|s7|pg|| nt|toral5: pick up 4 israel|pg|| pg|| qx|o22|st||md|4SK974HK93DQ9CJ843,SQHAJ764DKT652CT7,S8632H85D743CQ965,SAJT5HQT2DAJ8CAK2|sv|e|nt|jbgood: Operator, was it only 2 down on 16?|pg|| mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|nt|bagman: Standard Polish doctrine to open the 5 card major with the 6-5|pg|| nt|stc: as long as the partnedr plays the same :)|pg|| nt|bagman: Zaremba in a nasty situation; may go for Hamman rule|pg|| nt|bagman: which is bid 3NT if it's an option|pg|| nt|vugraphpld: 16. S claimed -2|pg|| mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3H|nt|jbgood: lots of people play a minor opening denying a 5 bagger in a major|pg|| mb|p|nt|bagman: sry, did not notice he had spade support|pg|| nt|rcerreto: maybe he forgot to be in 5|pg|| mb|4H|nt|jbgood: unless very good|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h3|pc|h4|pc|h5|nt|rcerreto: at th end of the match, result of board 16 could change|pg|| pc|hT|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h9|pc|h6|nt|jbgood: running scores: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswrunda7.html|pg|| pc|h8|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|s2|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|dA|nt|bagman: Declarer in danger of going down if N has Tx of spades and doubleton diamond unless draws trumps|pg|| pc|d9|pg|| nt|vugraphpld: fast claim:)|pg|| nt|bagman: with trumps 3-2, no problem in the play|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|d3|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c22|st||md|4SK974HK93DQ9CJ843,SQHAJ764DKT652CT7,S8632H85D743CQ965,SAJT5HQT2DAJ8CAK2|sv|e|nt|eamongall: My good friends here McGann and Brown |pg|| nt|eamongall: they owe me several pints of guiness |pg|| nt|bridge_one: 4@S made in other room ecause duck the A in @D|pg|| nt|jbgood: 4@s and coffee time|pg|| nt|davpro: I've got coffee all the time :)|pg|| nt|roswolf: yes another hidden advantage of bidding vul games:)|pg|| nt|pelu: No our job is to see the odds - and when try to explain why players play against odds|pg|| mb|1C|nt|MolvaM: yes. but could be more difficult to stay in the top 27 there|pg|| nt|jfaria: dont think Forrester could win |pg|| mb|p|nt|roswolf: this could be nip and tuck|pg|| mb|1H|nt|szalay: btw I am quite glad to (present) outcome of this match. I like this guys (and secret, pls) I am not big fan of Fantunes|pg|| nt|athene: well, it's not over yet...|pg|| nt|roswolf: our lips are sealed:)|pg|| nt|rv: muiderberg or tartan here?|pg|| mb|p|nt|runnerup: nothing should happen here but ..|pg|| nt|athene: not by any means automatic to wander into 3nt with these NS cards|pg|| nt|szalay: wd be anyone pass with East hand?|pg|| mb|2D!|nt|roswolf: indeed|pg|| nt|roswolf: i hate the overcall|pg|| nt|roswolf: yes|pg|| nt|pelu: iasy to fins the @s in OR - here E had the chance to bid @S on low levcel :)|pg|| mb|p|nt|Walddk2: Welcome to Barbara Apel|pg|| nt|barbyh: hi all, Barbara from Las vegas|pg|| nt|runnerup: loosing 3nt or 4h no game onsome chanche in |pg|| nt|lechcold: 2@D artificial GF|pg|| mb|2S!|nt|szalay: may be I am alone, but dont feel any positive to overcall with hand, especially with passed pd|pg|| nt|runnerup: getting ew sacrifise for nothing|pg|| nt|kirp: Not sure I understand this action by E|pg|| nt|kirp: S should balance but this tuff|pg|| nt|rv: is this Wilcosz?|pg|| nt|lechcold: 2@S = 10+, 5+@H|pg|| mb|p|nt|eamongall: a decent score for NS for 1NT up 2 on board 7 |pg|| nt|bagman: The spade lead was unlucky for NS|pg|| nt|athene: south might try 3@D now|pg|| mb|2N!|nt|eamongall: well there is a generous lead from McGann he won;t be happy |pg|| nt|hawe45: A fast - flat - board|pg|| mb|p|nt|bridge_one: i bet 10 tricks here :)|pg|| nt|roswolf: precisely|pg|| nt|fabsayc: 2@D game force (xyz)|pg|| mb|3D|nt|athene: i would overcall for sure|pg|| nt|roswolf: after 3@D i think north has an automatic 3nt|pg|| nt|runnerup: very speculiar bidding -really like this..|pg|| nt|glen: in the other room the 1@S opening found the major fit without problem|pg|| nt|toral5: any one for 6@D here?|pg|| mb|p|nt|szalay: I think 1N is a tipical underbid by underdogs vs, world classes|pg|| nt|szalay: at least 2N is sufficient|pg|| nt|athene: well, the problem is you know you don't want to play in 2nt|pg|| nt|roswolf: west has seen his pard's overcalls before|pg|| mb|3H|nt|danilo1: misfit hand ... so 3NT |pg|| nt|jfaria: 3nt, what eles?|pg|| nt|granguru: SS should be -1|pg|| nt|pelu: Polish @C in action, nice to have Lech here to explain |pg|| nt|toral5: or 6h as the cards lie|pg|| mb|p|nt|athene: you want to play in 1nt or 3nt or a diamond partscore|pg|| nt|jfaria: on the other hand 5@h had a chance|pg|| nt|danilo1: good conclusion by West that declarer has probably only 4-card @S (otherwise could bid 3@D) ... |pg|| mb|3S!|nt|barbyh: could have heldthem to 1 less|pg|| nt|bagman: There is a theory, which states that against blind 3NT one should lead from the worse 4-carder from a 4432|pg|| nt|barbyh: against matchpoints or imps?|pg|| nt|bagman: both|pg|| nt|bagman: I don't subscribe to that theory but I was told that it was backed up by a huge simulation|pg|| nt|eamongall: The good news for McGann on the last board is some 3NT+2 company is appearing ...|pg|| nt|bagman: who knows; at least it makes leading easy|pg|| nt|barbyh: true, |pg|| nt|barbyh: well in this case lead from a club and you holdthemto 4|pg|| nt|bagman: The diamond lead (suggested by the theory) holds the contract to 4, too|pg|| nt|MolvaM: after tomorrow evening the knockouts will start with 32 teams|pg|| nt|runnerup: can he escapepe for 1 down?|pg|| nt|kirp: even on a good day i see 2 down|pg|| nt|kirp: and given his bidding, i would gues 3 or more down|pg|| nt|granguru: even -2|pg|| nt|kirp: so a small pick up for EW, but not gteed|pg|| nt|rv: 2@h is @h +any other (incl @s), Polish weak 2|pg|| mb|p|nt|kirp: we have seen down 3 morph into down 1|pg|| nt|lechcold: 3@S shortness I believe|pg|| mb|4C|nt|glen: this @S lead reduces communication to S hand to nothing|pg|| nt|lechcold: they will be in 6@H|pg|| mb|p|nt|granguru: 3 or 4 imps....|pg|| mb|4D|nt|jfaria: played by N :)|pg|| nt|runnerup: some chance to increase spades |pg|| mb|p|nt|pelu: 6 in red: u have to find 1 out of 2 key-cards (@HK - @DQ) fine odds for that|pg|| nt|toral5: they are on track|pg|| mb|4H|nt|danilo1: ... unfortunately for him ...9 and 7 behind 1086|pg|| nt|jfaria: Forrester may not see 9 tricks, but L/V have more dificulties in finding 5..|pg|| nt|danilo1: since @DK good, and @C10 coming will probably make ... sooner or later, opps must give him a trick|pg|| nt|kirp: s thinks he can N a @S ruff, but makes no sense given the 5@C bid !|pg|| mb|p|nt|pelu: Israel in OR: stop in 4@h|pg|| nt|lechcold: Martens probably will make a move because of 55 distribution|pg|| nt|toral5: i think martens ll make 1 more bid with his reds shape|pg|| nt|toral5: nice scientific bidding by ew here.|pg|| nt|toral5: deserve to reach a slam:)|pg|| nt|lechcold: 2@D was 18+, so Jassem has no extras|pg|| nt|pelu: the red 10's are importen cards|pg|| nt|lechcold: on the other hand, x, AJxxx, Kxxx, Qxx gives reasonable slam|pg|| mb|p|nt|szalay: 2D is an option as well, but u have stopper and kinda D suit, when u dont need length help|pg|| nt|granguru: a red suit now|pg|| nt|rv: Anklesaria 3n is lebensohl response showing game values w/o 4@s and stopper in @h|pg|| mb|p|nt|granguru: not easy|pg|| nt|kirp: W cant lead a @S|pg|| pc|c5|nt|davpro: the @d losers vanished|pg|| nt|jbgood: not easy to find the @d lead|pg|| nt|davpro: nope|pg|| nt|toral5: now a question of an extra trick depending upon locating @D q|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c3|nt|athene: south just has a harder problem over 1@S than if east passed|pg|| nt|jfaria: I mean Gold thx|pg|| nt|kirp: a @h now and its 3 or more down|pg|| nt|kirp: good switch|pg|| nt|granguru: excelent defense by brogeland|pg|| pc|c7|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|glen: will W exit with a @C?|pg|| nt|jbgood: he has to be on his toes:)|pg|| nt|lechcold: maybe Jassem has extras, though:)|pg|| pc|h3|nt|glen: (no)|pg|| nt|granguru: angelini's turn to open @H|pg|| nt|granguru: second exelent move|pg|| nt|jbgood: but the 8?|pg|| pc|h4|nt|roswolf: another poor contract but more reasonable to bid|pg|| nt|athene: that's one reason for overcalling|pg|| nt|szalay: if he has sthg extras, lets play 3N. 2D and 3D isnt bad, but very likely he will decline without AofD|pg|| pc|h5|pg|| nt|danilo1: exiting with @C would not help ... since declarer may play @HA and @HQ .. therefore Alfredo (hoping in @HK at pd) tried to search 2 @S tricks |pg|| pc|hT|nt|danilo1: not taking 10 looks like error |pg|| pc|hK|pc|hA|nt|runnerup: he has them now|pg|| nt|kirp: too cute|pg|| pc|h8|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|rv: much needed IMPs for Texans, all their supporters and neutrals:)|pg|| pc|s2|nt|jfaria: home|pg|| nt|danilo1: .. or not ... East must play third @S - or @D@HQ now safe|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h9|pg|| nt|kirp: now S can throw a @S|pg|| nt|toral5: oh.im apologise.he has @H 10|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d3|nt|runnerup: so big fight for lost all big lost |pg|| pc|dJ|nt|juror2: :)|pg|| pc|dQ|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|o23|st||md|1SJ3HKT532DK3CA842,SKQ94H7DQJT8CK963,STHAJ96DA7652CQT5,SA87652HQ84D94CJ7|sv|b|mb|1H|nt|rcerreto: this line would loose with Q10xx@S in N, unable to do the math but I think he played right|pg|| mb|d|mb|3S|mb|4S|nt|bagman: He might go down with trumps 3-2 if he tried to guard against 4-1 in North|pg|| nt|bagman: so I think he played it right|pg|| mb|p|nt|rcerreto: that's the point, you can't win both situation|pg|| mb|p|mb|5H|mb|p|nt|stc: another fast claim|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|rcerreto: an overruff by 10x looks more likely that @s 4-1 in N|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|dK|pg|| nt|jbgood: 500 registered in the current scores on 16 - so we take it that that was the result - as we thought|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h7|nt|rcerreto: ok, thanks|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h4|pg|| pc|h2|pc|s9|nt|bagman: And he might survive 4-1 with AK of spades and later being able to play a spade up if N had only 4 clubs|pg|| pc|hA|nt|jbgood: so 4 imps on 16 - and not 8|pg|| pc|h8|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d9|pc|d3|pc|d8|pg|| pc|d5|pc|s5|pc|h5|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|c5|pc|c7|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c23|st||md|1SJ3HKT532DK3CA842,SKQ94H7DQJT8CK963,STHAJ96DA7652CQT5,SA87652HQ84D94CJ7|sv|b|nt|bagman: I probably would have lead the @S, too :( (maybe there's something in that theory, after all)|pg|| nt|hawe45: West must play this 3 NT|pg|| nt|roswolf: more distributional hands|pg|| nt|athene: well 2@D-3@D does show a decent hand so if he has some extra hcp he will bid it anyway|pg|| nt|szalay: suddent death is coming|pg|| nt|glen: lack of entries has declarer not taking a trump finesse,but instead go for the 10 tricks|pg|| nt|fabsayc: trump finesse was dangerous actually, might score queen and diamond overruff then|pg|| nt|juror2: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/or32runda1.html|pg|| nt|rv: those 2 are arguably 2 of top 5 partnerships in the world|pg|| nt|toral5: heading for a cliffhanger.2 imps deficit|pg|| mb|1H|nt|runnerup: 3nt in wrong hand so chance for Zaleski|pg|| nt|hawe45: South led a small @C, but East had to go wrong|pg|| nt|kirp: lots of potential here, but actually a part score|pg|| nt|kirp: this match has seen too many weak NTs|pg|| nt|glen: specs note on last board that taking @S finesse could result in not making the contract|pg|| mb|d|nt|bridge_one: no|pg|| nt|MolvaM: we just love deals with a void rite? :)|pg|| nt|roswolf: :)|pg|| nt|pelu: 11 tricks in @s|pg|| nt|roswolf: hmm 3nt is unlucky to fail here|pg|| nt|szalay: but it rather looks hungarian death:(|pg|| nt|jbgood: it is not only the NTs that have been weak:)|pg|| nt|lechcold: on the other hand, with bad 18 (if 18 can be bad) Jassem would have bid 4@H after 3@D|pg|| nt|toral5: a jordan 2nt or a fit showing 3d?or just 4h?|pg|| nt|lechcold: delicate decision both hands|pg|| nt|april7: truscott 2NT|pg|| nt|toral5: 4s is a gud save here|pg|| mb|2N!|nt|bridge_one: 1@D 3@D easy ...|pg|| nt|runnerup: 3nt opening not everyones choice|pg|| mb|3S|nt|glen: modern bidding: three value showing bids to you, and you have 10 high card points|pg|| nt|runnerup: north didnt want open 4 @h because he was too good,but he has his 7 tricks and that is it |pg|| nt|kirp: N has too many @Ds, knows S also has them or a bad hand|pg|| nt|glen: as martin just said|pg|| nt|rv: Zimmerman was argubaly the weak link in the team and Texans haven't been able to capitalize on this|pg|| mb|4H|nt|MolvaM: 2nt is?|pg|| nt|danilo1: :)|pg|| nt|jfaria: how many @h will L/V play?|pg|| nt|glen: established partnerships often use transfers over the negative double|pg|| nt|runnerup: they had 800 ta take other table but wanted to 200 away|pg|| nt|kirp: Note that 3N by E is cold|pg|| nt|granguru: rofl|pg|| mb|4S|nt|jbgood: quad est demonstrandum|pg|| nt|toral5: here they go|pg|| mb|p!|mb|p|nt|runnerup: winnig some ipms strange way|pg|| nt|hawe45: To miss this 5 @D - played by West - will bring Zaleski 8 IMP|pg|| nt|jbgood: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/orrrunda7.html enables you to follow the exciting fights for 3rd place in some of the groups|pg|| nt|glen: the angelini team is show as in 29 spot on the running scores|pg|| nt|glen: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswrunda7.html|pg|| nt|rv: 3@h here shows 4@s, no @h stopper and GF values|pg|| mb|d|nt|roswolf: this looks boring with no heart barrage|pg|| nt|MolvaM: spade fit and?|pg|| nt|pelu: 5@H could cost 500|pg|| nt|MolvaM: 5@h could just escape for down 3 I guess|pg|| nt|kirp: and by W goes down 3|pg|| nt|jbgood: (pls forgive my bad Latin)|pg|| nt|granguru: too high already|pg|| nt|kirp: quid errrat demonstratum|pg|| nt|kirp: !!!|pg|| nt|rv: part of lebensohl structure|pg|| nt|toral5: 5h also makes.trump q should be located i guess.|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|bagman: W has so much extras that he can afford to bid the game in NT instead of looking for the spades|pg|| nt|jbgood: 3 teams go to the A Swiss - and the others to B|pg|| nt|jbgood: :)|pg|| nt|jbgood: even from a kib: hunc est dimostrandum:)|pg|| mb|p|nt|davpro: 9 tricks in NT here|pg|| nt|granguru: QUOD ERAT DEMONSTRANDUM|pg|| nt|glen: 29 spot puts the team in tomorrow's pairs event|pg|| nt|glen: now 28, so close|pg|| nt|fabsayc: 27 from A and 5 from B continue in knockout stage|pg|| nt|pelu: so far 5 tables out of 16 in 6@h (B22)|pg|| pc|h3|nt|szalay: what wd u say as west? i feel it normal 1n|pg|| nt|kirp: lovely fit here, good system when pard has to play the hand|pg|| pc|h7|nt|szalay: good lead:)|pg|| nt|athene: this match does illustrate the "game every hand" philosophy - most deals at least one pair is in game, and when one side bid game and the other didn't, the aggressive action ...|pg|| nt|athene: usually gained|pg|| nt|roswolf: @CQ followed by a diamond switch is possible|pg|| nt|glen: the knockout is hard tomorrow, 24 teams exit, 8 remain|pg|| nt|toral5: this is 1 down|pg|| pc|hA|nt|bridge_one: 4@D great choice by Versace|pg|| nt|roswolf: 2@S seemed to be too optimistic with no fit for pard's suit|pg|| nt|roswolf: ot @CJ:)|pg|| nt|jfaria: $1h is a real chalenge :)|pg|| nt|jbgood: tu kibs - you are truly a learned audience:)|pg|| nt|hawe45: Bad play - @C-swithcg will be killing|pg|| pc|h4|pg|| nt|athene: 31 imps so far for people in game when other room played partscore|pg|| nt|szalay: btw support X instead of 2C is queationable with so nice C suit|pg|| nt|athene: many play support double is obligatory|pg|| nt|roswolf: I CERTAINLY DO|pg|| nt|athene: even with xxx and AKQJ10xx :)|pg|| nt|szalay: we opened cause we have so nice C suit|pg|| nt|szalay: I said only: questionable, may be I wd XX myself|pg|| nt|athene: nunes knows if he wins this he doesn't have much chance|pg|| nt|jfaria: 4@h I mean|pg|| nt|danilo1: why 2NT alerted ... it just shows what he has :) ... 3-card @C support, some Hcp, BAL hand - and @S stop|pg|| pc|c5|nt|runnerup: perhaps even he didnt expect mojor Q eens to table |pg|| nt|roswolf: really|pg|| nt|runnerup: 3nt not makeable i think so -entryes dead|pg|| nt|kirp: score is 36-22 for NS, this a good pickup for EW and match is not over|pg|| pc|c7|nt|athene: but ducking could lead to even more down of course|pg|| nt|hawe45: Undo, pls|pg|| nt|rv: surprising Balicki didn't find the switch|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c3|pg|| nt|toral5: ericas will lose here after seeing the other room result|pg|| nt|toral5: so israel increases thr lead|pg|| nt|toral5: no @D king now and 4s x is home|pg|| nt|toral5: @C q10 coming|pg|| nt|pelu: strange that decl - after the X- didnt find @Hq - he even strat the @H-play with @HK|pg|| nt|toral5: contract depends on the card south plays|pg|| nt|lechcold: yes, it was little strange|pg|| nt|toral5: tough time for ginossar|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d8|nt|roswolf: really!?|pg|| nt|szalay: btw its the correct line if @Cs are 5-3|pg|| nt|athene: he has 8 tricks so he wants north to cash out his clubs - hoping he just loses four tricks and then has a spade-diamond squeeze|pg|| nt|fabsayc: spade finesse is more or less marked|pg|| nt|rv: with no entry in his hand, suspected he will not continue @hs and then it is matter of which suit to switch|pg|| nt|rv: rare error by Balicki, you might not see another one till the end of this match:)|pg|| pc|d2|nt|jbgood: i guess they play 2@c as game force - but not sure. if so, E may have regretted his pass, 3 nt always on|pg|| nt|MolvaM: 4s showed fit+limit hand|pg|| nt|roswolf: this looks -1|pg|| nt|glen: if you just alert only natural, you cut down on the number of alerts|pg|| nt|jfaria: Lauria must decide between @d and @s |pg|| nt|glen: @d ace now, and with nothing better to do, then the @C J?|pg|| nt|jfaria: Versace I mean |pg|| nt|jbgood: (and I will never try Latin again, apart from Volvo and Vademecum:))|pg|| pc|d4|pg|| pc|d3|nt|toral5: why will north push a @C looking at king on table WITHOUT @D ace?wel done eldad|pg|| pc|dT|nt|szalay: and try for D-S squeeze|pg|| nt|fabsayc: certainly %|pg|| pc|dA|nt|roswolf: maybe -2|pg|| nt|roswolf: obviously west thought 1@C was short ish|pg|| pc|d9|pg|| nt|bagman: Even with the bad club break, declarer has 11 tricks losing only the two aces and scoring well in the pairs|pg|| pc|d5|nt|kirp: sorry 36-23|pg|| pc|sA|nt|bagman: sry, the spades break also badly.... |pg|| pc|h2|nt|jbgood: perhaps E just took a shot with his meager values|pg|| pc|dJ|pg|| pc|s7|nt|bagman: so declarer has only the same 10 tricks as those who play in spades|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sK|nt|kirp: down 2 lookslke|pg|| nt|jbgood: 27 teams from A and 5 from B go to the KO stage - no c/o|pg|| pc|sT|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o24|st||md|2SAK9HK9752DQJ8CA5,S86HT864DK32CK874,SJ742HJ3DAT97CJ92,SQT53HAQD654CQT63|sv|o|nt|jbgood: actual score is 15-10 Kaninen|pg|| nt|rcerreto: another no-brainer coming?|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|bagman: NS likely to find the spade game and lose 3 tricks|pg|| mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|nt|bagman: I don't think that the willingness to play 3NT applies to this hand|pg|| mb|3H|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|nt|jbgood: they found the spade fit:)|pg|| nt|rcerreto: usually better to play from the strong hand|pg|| mb|4D|mb|p|nt|rcerreto: this time makes no difference|pg|| nt|jbgood: puppet stayman would lead to the contract being strong hand sided|pg|| nt|stc: Kanin on the way to the needed win|pg|| nt|rcerreto: maybe but we'll never know :)|pg|| nt|bagman: rehi|pg|| nt|vugraphpld: is problem with internet...|pg|| nt|bagman: Are they still playing this?|pg|| nt|jbgood: looks as if they will be among the 27 with a draw|pg|| nt|vugraphpld: yes|pg|| nt|jbgood: but a 14 imps victory would surely see them safe into the KO stage|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c4|pc|c9|pc|cT|pc|cA|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h6|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c5|pc|cK|pc|c2|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|h5|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d4|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|h4|pg|| pc|c6|pc|h9|pc|c8|pc|s2|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h8|pc|s4|pc|d6|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|d5|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d3|pc|dT|pc|s3|pg|| pc|d9|pc|s5|pc|s9|pc|hT|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s7|pc|sT|pc|sK|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pg|| pg|| qx|c24|st||md|2SAK9HK9752DQJ8CA5,S86HT864DK32CK874,SJ742HJ3DAT97CJ92,SQT53HAQD654CQT63|sv|o|nt|jbgood: last one in the round robin |pg|| nt|jbgood: and cards lie badly for EW|pg|| nt|roswolf: We are now on the last board of the set. Thanks to our operator - Great Job! Our appreciation to all the organisers for ensuring that this fine event is brought to BBO vugraph. ...|pg|| nt|roswolf: Thanks too to my very learned fellow commentators Murat and Peter for their company and perceptive comments and to our specs whose contributions keep us on our toes.|pg|| nt|MolvaM: ok last board of the match|pg|| nt|MolvaM: next match to start in 29 minutes|pg|| nt|roswolf: We are now on the last board of the set. Thanks to our operator - Great Job! Our appreciation to all the organisers for ensuring that this fine event is brought to BBO vugraph. ...|pg|| nt|roswolf: Thanks too to my very learned fellow commentators Murat and John for their company and perceptive comments and to our specs whose contributions keep us on our toes.|pg|| nt|szalay: btw D-S squeeze is very unlikely|pg|| nt|roswolf: sorry dont agree|pg|| nt|szalay: to be honest|pg|| nt|jfaria: ducking @d helped, no need to choose between @s and @d|pg|| nt|danilo1: to note excellent play by Forrester, @D2 and not 10 ... Gold should not duck|pg|| nt|runnerup: some result here|pg|| nt|jbgood: c/o = carry over|pg|| nt|glen: and the last board of the swiss|pg|| nt|glen: for these two teams|pg|| nt|fabsayc: thanks operator, matches continue at 1am vancouver time, 3am toronto time|pg|| nt|toral5: 5 brds to go an israel up by 9|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|roswolf: We are now on the last board of the set. Thanks to our operator, Ilya - Great Job! Our appreciation to all the organisers for ensuring that this fine event is brought to BBO ...|pg|| nt|roswolf: vugraph. Thanks too to my very learned fellow commentators Gyorgy and Bill for their company and perceptive comments and to our specs whose contributions keep us on our toes.|pg|| mb|1H|nt|kirp: looks like NS in OR have a huge result, so Angelini may yet win this match,as it 36-30 right now|pg|| mb|p|nt|MolvaM: now 28 :)|pg|| nt|glen: hey, toronto is moving close to vancouver|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|nt|bagman: EW can make here 10 tricks in NT on a club lead 11 tricks otherwise|pg|| nt|MolvaM: 5 more matches will be played tomorrow and then 27 teams from group A, and 5 teams from group B will proceed to the knockouts|pg|| nt|athene: Fantunes are sort of forced to play weak notrump as a consequence of the rest of their system|pg|| nt|kirp: both these teams look to qualify i think|pg|| nt|glen: or is it still 4am eastern?|pg|| mb|2N|nt|szalay: if u know your pd is so weak for weak NT u wd pass|pg|| nt|szalay: some players have this "magic talent", others not|pg|| nt|roswolf: if they reach 4@S now north will have all the info he needs to axe|pg|| nt|kirp: this does look like 10 trix|pg|| nt|rv: arguably Monaco Z, Lavazza, Mahaffey and Angelini were the pre-tourney favorites, Angelini are already out since they finished 30th in Swiss A|pg|| mb|p|nt|davpro: What have I missed in the bidding?|pg|| nt|MolvaM: tomorrow we start at 10.00 hrs CET|pg|| nt|roswolf: these 2 teams will surely be in contention|pg|| nt|fabsayc: 4am eastern yes :)|pg|| nt|glen: 2@H is not much of a preemptive raise with 5 trumps|pg|| nt|rv: they are still many excellent Polish teams, Israel, Netherlands who could easily beat any of the favorites|pg|| nt|rv: both East and West have stretched here|pg|| mb|3N|nt|szalay: this partnership has this "talent"|pg|| nt|roswolf: east has heard the warning bell|pg|| nt|athene: east simply discounted his @CQ on the bidding, so he is left with a nine-count|pg|| nt|roswolf: i think that was fine judgment|pg|| nt|szalay: as I watched many times: they r frequently agressive when pd has good hand, and passive when has bad one...we call it: "magican"|pg|| mb|p|nt|roswolf: :)|pg|| mb|p|nt|rv: incidentally Dutch are defending champions in this event|pg|| mb|p|nt|pelu: only 8 trick|pg|| nt|MolvaM: good lead|pg|| nt|glen: now N has room to jump support @Ss|pg|| pc|c4|nt|bagman: E bid 3NT to show the spade stopper in case W was interested in that; If W had a huge @H raise, he would not pass 3NT|pg|| nt|davpro: W probably showed a M?|pg|| nt|davpro: 2@d balanced hand , 3@c a major, 4@d ask major (according to a kib)|pg|| nt|jbgood: probably|pg|| nt|roswolf: a little optimistic but a fair shot|pg|| nt|glen: 3@S asks are you italian, 4@S=yes|pg|| nt|kirp: 4th best lead, nothing better to sooth the soul|pg|| nt|hawe45: Ace - and !Queen = ruff|pg|| nt|rv: East could have passed instead of 1@S opening and Zmud could have raised to 2@s with flat 4333 shape|pg|| nt|hawe45: The 3 means, that the @D King is in North|pg|| pc|c9|nt|glen: this allows non-italians to play the partscore|pg|| nt|granguru: with this trick Angelini made his contract|pg|| nt|glen: this should coast home nicely, with no nasty splits about|pg|| pc|cT|nt|pelu: @S-lead would have given the 9. trick|pg|| nt|MolvaM: normal lead actually but sometimes people dont like to lead from 5 small minors and choose a major|pg|| pc|c5|pg|| pc|c6|nt|jbgood: the curse of underleading aces|pg|| nt|davpro: :)|pg|| nt|jbgood: but still down|pg|| nt|glen: unfriendly @Ds here|pg|| nt|granguru: if N plays @S Anelini wins the match|pg|| nt|granguru: If n plays @C is it a tie|pg|| nt|granguru: @h3 suit pref signal for @C|pg|| nt|jbgood: he has 2 black suits - a 50 % ? either this or that...:)|pg|| pc|cA|nt|kirp: know pard has cards in @Hs, cant have enuff in @Ss to run the suit|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c2|pg|| nt|pelu: but the good old rule 4. best in yout longest suit :) - and here East has indicatet 4 card @s|pg|| nt|MolvaM: right peter :)|pg|| nt|glen: will doom this|pg|| nt|pelu: can u find a way to 9 tricks?|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|dA|nt|MolvaM: specs tell me board 17 was doubled in other room|pg|| nt|hawe45: Well done for 200|pg|| pc|d4|pg|| nt|bagman: Declarer is going to run the diamonds hoping for too many heart discards|pg|| nt|toral5: @S q10 nicely placed|pg|| nt|pelu: u are right - and @HA|pg|| nt|lechcold: if spade is played from the table, East must put @S10|pg|| nt|toral5: yes.dummy is an entry short thn|pg|| pc|h3|nt|MolvaM: if thats the case 5 imps more could go to monaco-Z |pg|| nt|roswolf: restart in 15-20mins|pg|| pc|hA|nt|runnerup: killing lead |pg|| nt|MolvaM: well we shall see|pg|| nt|roswolf: hmm the juniors have been brushed aside|pg|| nt|runnerup: yes so close match 36-39 probably -alot off interesting boards tx all bye|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h4|pg|| nt|danilo1: obvious @S |pg|| pc|c3|nt|davpro: Does S know who has got the @d 4?|pg|| nt|kirp: Angelini wins by 2 imps I think|pg|| pc|h5|nt|MolvaM: spade switch was needed|pg|| nt|glen: with 9 of 10 boards reported in this match, its Kanin in 18, Consus in 38|pg|| nt|glen: hungry steve (ok, hungary steve) is in 27, opp mirage in 28|pg|| pc|cK|nt|roswolf: scheduled re-start in 22mins approx from now|pg|| nt|pelu: no X when I see the bidding in OR (direct on the tabler)|pg|| nt|athene: heart to the ace and diamond up looks plausible|pg|| nt|kirp: thx all, |pg|| pc|cJ|pg|| nt|roswolf: for results http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswrunda3.html|pg|| pc|c8|nt|athene: the idea is you just want to make sure of two heart tricks and if the finesses loses you might not even get two|pg|| nt|szalay: btw first 27 from swiss A, first 5 from swiss B go to KO|pg|| nt|athene: but losing finesse doesn't matter here anyway with the nice breaks in the red suits|pg|| nt|szalay: and first 8 has the right to choose opps from 9-32|pg|| nt|jbgood: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswrunda6.html for late arrived kibs|pg|| pc|s2|nt|jbgood: tu all - also for your Latin lessons! bye|pg|| nt|granguru: bye and ORA PRO NOBIS|pg|| nt|fabsayc: now diamond ace and diamond|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|bagman: There's no legitimate squeeze but it costs nothing to try|pg|| nt|MolvaM: now the defensive spade trick vanishes|pg|| nt|roswolf: yes which was why it was a fair shot|pg|| pc|h7|pg|| pc|d5|nt|davpro: I need some sleep. Thx all kibs for pointing out my stupidity|pg|| nt|dburn: I doubt he cares all that much about the four, given what happened to the ace|pg|| nt|szalay: the ranking order 9-32 is decided by NOT the result, but WBF/EBL masterpoints|pg|| nt|jfaria: kind of 2 out of 3 ok, not a bad game vuln|pg|| nt|pelu: Russia has made a great comeback against Denmark - down 51-19 at halftime, but after 24 boards up 65-61 :(:(:(:(|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d2|nt|pelu: nice discarding by NS|pg|| nt|roswolf: yes careful|pg|| pc|d7|pg|| nt|glen: only 27 teams from Swss A make KO|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|s4|nt|jbgood: bye all|pg|| nt|davpro: bye all. I enjoyed as always.|pg|| pc|s3|pg|| pc|sK|nt|danilo1: this is last hand ... Thanks Joao, Glen ... esp. our operator, specs and players|pg|| pc|s8|nt|glen: Angelini looks out of the KO at this point|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s5|pg|| nt|jfaria: thx all|pg|| pc|d8|nt|roswolf: the last rites|pg|| nt|pelu: same start in OR - the first 5 tricks|pg|| nt|roswolf: bye for now see you back in 20mins|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d9|nt|bagman: N knew that S has the @CK as E had passed|pg|| pc|d6|pg|| pc|dT|nt|szalay: this is the (one of) reason why u find players in rosters who dont play|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s9|pc|h6|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|h8|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hT|pc|sJ|nt|bagman: Looks like we are waiting for two tables to finish the play; 3NT +2 gives 66.5% to EW right now|pg|| pc|sQ|pg|| pg|| qx|o25|st||md|3SAKQJ7HKQ9D73CK93,SHA42DAT94CQJT754,S852HJT73DKQJ2CA2,ST9643H865D865C86|sv|e|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|2C|mb|d|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|4C|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|c3|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|c5|pg|| pc|sK|pc|c7|pc|s5|pc|s4|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h5|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c2|pc|c6|pc|cK|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cT|pc|s8|pc|s9|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hQ|pc|h2|pc|h7|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c25|st||md|3SAKQJ7HKQ9D73CK93,SHA42DAT94CQJT754,S852HJT73DKQJ2CA2,ST9643H865D865C86|sv|e|nt|rv: Texan Aces need to stay in touch, reduce the deficit and hope for miracle in second segment|pg|| nt|hawe45: Bad communication, but 3 NT seems OK|pg|| mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|2C|mb|d!|mb|p|nt|bagman: N might be showing @H + m at least 55|pg|| mb|3C!|mb|p|mb|3H|nt|rv: incidentally all matches from R32 till semi-finals are 14x2, 2 k/o rounds today and tomorrow, finals on Wed is 14x3|pg|| mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|nt|barbyh: well bid auction|pg|| nt|pelu: NL-red 49-1 but now only 63-42 against Lovicz|pg|| mb|4S|nt|barbyh: waited for his second suit then bid spades|pg|| mb|p|nt|bagman: W had enough to balance but not enough to invite further|pg|| nt|rv: 2n is forcing here, I presume they would invite with 1n-2@c-2x-2@s|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|cQ|nt|bagman: Are NS leading 3rd/low or is this an alarm clock lead?|pg|| nt|hawe45: 9th trick - might have problems is West ducks twice with the @D Ace|pg|| nt|rv: I presume Venkatesh's sequence here shows 5@s+4@d, mild slam try, he was stretching here|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c6|pc|cK|pg|| nt|rv: declarer may set-up 9th trick by setting another @c trick and only 1@d trick|pg|| pc|sA|nt|barbyh: whats an alarm clock lead?|pg|| nt|bagman: Most poles play 2/4 leads, as far as I know|pg|| pc|c4|pc|s2|pc|s3|pg|| nt|pelu: 111 tricks even with @Ss 5-0 - no ruffs in East|pg|| pc|d3|nt|bagman: An alarm clock lead is an unexpected card telling partner to do something unexpected|pg|| nt|barbyh: lol in order to wake partner up?|pg|| nt|bagman: often a wrong honor or wrong card from known length|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dK|pc|d5|pg|| nt|rv: now 10 tricks|pg|| nt|lechcold: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/or32runda1.html running scores|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s9|pc|sQ|pc|c5|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dA|pc|d2|nt|pelu: sh have played @s8 now bloced|pg|| pc|d6|pg|| nt|pelu: good news for danish kibs : 14 IMP for Denmark now 75-65 - I am neutral - but not when Denmark are playing :):)|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|c3|pg|| pc|dJ|nt|bagman: West has also seen that N lead the @C2|pg|| pc|d8|pc|c9|pc|d9|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|s6|pc|s7|pc|dT|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h5|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h7|mc|11|pg|| qx|o26|st||md|4SQJ32HJT73DA6CQ65,ST8754HAQDT932CA4,SK9HK9642DKQ85CK8,SA6H85DJ74CJT9732|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|s9|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c5|pc|cA|pc|c8|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|c9|pc|c6|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d4|pc|dA|pc|d2|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h5|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sK|pc|s6|pc|s3|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h8|pc|h3|pc|hQ|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c26|st||md|4SQJ32HJT73DA6CQ65,ST8754HAQDT932CA4,SK9HK9642DKQ85CK8,SA6H85DJ74CJT9732|sv|b|nt|rv: looks like flat board, cold 4@s here|pg|| mb|p|nt|rv: time to catch up on coffee/smoke|pg|| mb|p|nt|barbyh: another easy game|pg|| mb|1S|mb|d|nt|pelu: missed the - hard - game in OR|pg|| mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d2|nt|rv: Balicki's 4@c shows auto splinter with good 6+@s|pg|| nt|pelu: looks like Israel are pulling away|pg|| nt|lechcold: 3N works...it's probably end of Ericas hopes:(|pg|| nt|Walddk4: 4@H would too; both depending on a favourable heart position|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dJ|nt|barbyh: 4 h, or 4 sp all roads lead to 11 tricks|pg|| nt|bagman: The defense needs to cash the @CA after the diamond lead|pg|| pc|dA|pg|| nt|barbyh: or 12 if the dont cash|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hQ|nt|bagman: Declarer might win this in dummy and lead a diamond|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h5|pg|| pc|h2|nt|rv: Texans need a big swing in the next couple of boards to reduce the deficit and believe they have a chance, also carry a bit of momentum into second segment|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pg|| pc|d3|nt|barbyh: pretty hardto lead a clubnow|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d4|pc|d6|pg|| pc|sK|nt|bagman: Declarer now has the entries to ruff the diamond and to take the rest|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s8|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sQ|pc|s5|pc|s9|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|c2|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dQ|pc|d7|pc|s3|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c3|pc|c6|pc|c4|pg|| nt|bagman: E played it well. She did not reveal much from her hand before putting S into a tough decision|pg|| nt|bagman: Currently 480 is worth 89% for EW|pg|| nt|bagman: 450 is only 35%|pg|| nt|barbyh: north could have helped himout by playing the deuce of diamonds to suggest the club shift|pg|| nt|bagman: North played his lowest diamond|pg|| nt|barbyh: so he might have used that as a suit preference|pg|| pc|h4|mc|10|pg|| qx|o27|st||md|1SAJ542HK94DQCQT83,SQHQJ2DKT742CA976,SK863HA873DJ6CK42,ST97HT65DA9853CJ5|sv|o|mb|1S|mb|d|mb|r|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d4|pc|d6|pc|dA|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c3|pc|c6|pc|cK|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s7|pc|s2|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s9|pc|sA|pc|d2|pg|| pc|sJ|mc|10|pg|| qx|c27|st||md|1SAJ542HK94DQCQT83,SQHQJ2DKT742CA976,SK863HA873DJ6CK42,ST97HT65DA9853CJ5|sv|o|nt|bagman: S had lead the trump and E played diamond back; it surely looked to S that the trump lead was good and another trump was now required|pg|| nt|lechcold: 10 tricks in Spades available here|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|nt|hawe45: But this just another dull 3 NT|pg|| mb|3D|nt|rv: yes another flat board and very little possibility for any swing|pg|| mb|p|nt|lechcold: Israel can not lose this match |pg|| mb|3S|nt|barbyh: notif declarer has the heart ace|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|barbyh: why? nothing to lose by playing a diamond|pg|| nt|bagman: I think that E put S to a tough spot and it was reasonable for S to play a trump; I'm not sure it it was the best single dummy but surely it was a possible play|pg|| nt|bagman: In guessing situations, people guess wrong|pg|| nt|bagman: at least sometimes|pg|| nt|barbyh: if declarer has theheart ace then its a losing play|pg|| nt|barbyh: can gain nothing|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|lechcold: 3@D was probably sort of Bergen raise|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h6|pc|hK|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|sT|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s7|nt|lechcold: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/or32runda1.html|pg|| pc|sA|pc|d2|pg|| nt|lechcold: running scores again|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|d4|nt|rv: I believe in official scoreboard, Monaco Z have bid and made 3n with OT as well, hence Texans could actually be trailing by 33 IMPs here once scores are compared|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s9|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h2|pc|hA|nt|rv: Zimmerman-Multon have bid and made 3n on brd 8 according to running scores|pg|| pc|h5|pg|| nt|rv: we need to wait for final confirmed scores|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hT|pc|h4|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d6|pc|dA|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|d3|pc|s4|pc|dT|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c6|nt|rv: Texan and Keyzad have very well till yesterday, they had Butler score of nearly +0.8 IMPs per brd|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c5|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o28|st||md|2S2H8763DA8763CAQ2,SAKJ9873HK42DJC96,ST65HJT5DQT954C54,SQ4HAQ9DK2CKJT873|sv|n|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h4|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|s5|pg|| pc|s4|pc|h6|pc|sA|pc|s6|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sT|pc|c3|pc|d8|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c4|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hK|pc|h5|pc|h9|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c28|st||md|2S2H8763DA8763CAQ2,SAKJ9873HK42DJC96,ST65HJT5DQT954C54,SQ4HAQ9DK2CKJT873|sv|n|nt|barbyh: can they get to 6 diamonds?|pg|| nt|rv: have played|pg|| mb|1S|nt|bagman: NS could have successfully competed to 3@H but they took the kiss of dementor, 200, instead|pg|| mb|p|mb|2C!|nt|rv: butler scores of all pairs as well as score-sheets of all matches can be viewed at http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg|| mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|nt|barbyh: why whats worse than that?|pg|| nt|rv: 1@h is transfer to @s, Venkatesh's 2@h is risky proposition|pg|| mb|p|nt|rv: this is 500 territory if Balicki passes|pg|| mb|p|pc|hJ|nt|pelu: ok last board gratilation to Israel - and tx to our great operator, my fellow commentators and to many very active kibs -|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|h4|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s2|nt|bagman: S hand is typical where one bids 3NT and waits for the dummy to appear|pg|| nt|barbyh: northcould have save the day by bidding 4 sp|pg|| nt|barbyh: thats if he felt lucky|pg|| nt|eamongall: At another table McGann Brown left opps in 5@Ds ...not best matchpoint effort by NS board 14 |pg|| nt|barbyh: odds are pd has a good minor|pg|| nt|bagman: Some NS have reached 4@H making; S has probably doubled and N felt that nobody plays minors in pairs|pg|| nt|bagman: and why play 6@D when 6N is an as easy make |pg|| pc|s3|nt|rv: with 3 trumps, Balicki didn't want to take any chance especially in the context of good set they have had at this table|pg|| pc|s5|pg|| nt|lechcold: tx all, bye|pg|| pc|s4|pc|c2|pc|sK|pc|s6|pg|| pc|sA|pc|sT|pc|c3|nt|pelu: and again : spec tx to the polish IT-staff - they are doing a great job for us and bridgeplayers all over the world - TX|pg|| pc|d3|pg|| nt|rv: this is last board of first segment, big thanks to Vugraph operator Ilya, my excellent co-commentator Ilya and all specs for patiently listening to us and their insightful comments|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|d4|pc|c7|nt|rv: next segment starts in approx 40 mins, we are likely to have a new set of matches depending on closeness |pg|| pc|d6|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg|| pc|d7|pc|s7|pc|d5|pc|d2|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg|| mc|10|nt|pelu: I am told that this Israeli Team are the team for Bermuda Bowl in Netherland|pg|| nt|april7: hi,are you still here??|pg|| pg||