vg|D EC 2011 Open Teams 32 _,1_2,I,1,14,Netherlands White,0,Otvosi,0| rs|5SS-2,5SS-2,3SS=,3CN-1,3CN-1,2DS-1,4SN=,4SS+1,4HN-3,4SWx-2,4HE-1,4HW=,5CW-1,4CW+1,3NN+3,3NN+3,3NN=,2NN-1,3SE-1,PASS,3NN=,3NS+1,6SW-1,4SW+1,3NS+1,3NS=,3NE+1,3NE=| pn|JANSMA,NOWOSADZKI,PAULISSEN,TUSZYÑSKI,Chmurski,VERHEES JR,Puczynski,PROOIJEN|pg|| qx|o1|st||md|3SAKJT8532HTDACK75,S6HAK9854DKJ93CAT,SQ7H63DQ87542C942,S94HQJ72DT6CQJ863|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|3H|an| |mb|4S|an| |nt|blum1956: hi all|pg|| mb|5H|nt|murat: good morning everybody|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|5S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|murat: so now we are at the KO stage|pg|| nt|murat: teams will play 2x14|pg|| nt|vugraphpl3: good morning all! anjoy! :)|pg|| nt|blum1956: 5@s one to two off depending on the guess in clubs which the declarer probably gets right|pg|| nt|murat: good morning Simona. good luck :)|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|h2|pc|hT|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h3|pc|hJ|pc|s5|pg|| nt|vugraphpl3: thanks :)|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|d6|pg|| nt|blum1956: especially after that kind of second lead|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s6|nt|blum1956: tempting to make...|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s4|pg|| nt|blum1956: (ruff out the @dK and get the clubs right)|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cJ|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg|| nt|blum1956: no luck but not that expensive NV|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c1|st||md|3SAKJT8532HTDACK75,S6HAK9854DKJ93CAT,SQ7H63DQ87542C942,S94HQJ72DT6CQJ863|sv|o|nt|tsadek: ok Tokay here|pg|| mb|p|nt|glen: complete Lavazza team is:Norberto BOCCHI, Giorgio DUBOIN, Agustin MADALA, Antonio SEMENTA, Mustafa Cem TOKAY, Jon BALDURSSON|pg|| mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1H|nt|Walddk2: Easy grand slam?|pg|| mb|p|nt|Walddk2: To to make at least|pg|| mb|3H|nt|tsadek: west need fit +K@C then he ask for aces|pg|| nt|pelu: here I prefer "Nt as transfer to @D (and 2@S for @C)|pg|| mb|4S|nt|glen: expect 2NT to be @D transfer, and 3@C = likes @Ds|pg|| mb|5H|nt|pelu: so 3@H = singleton|pg|| nt|pelu: diff when u have 2 singletons :)|pg|| nt|rado: hi all:)|pg|| nt|rado: @D lead and @S underlead Ak will beat it but unlikely|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|5S|nt|vugraphpl8: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/osw2t1-1.htm|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|vugraphpl8: http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg|| mb|p|nt|pelu: NL in 7@d in CR|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|hT|pg|| pc|s6|nt|glen: what was that about fines for slow play, how about fines for slow bidding?|pg|| nt|tsadek: I like Verhees bid of 3@S in closed room , Force his pd to bid 4@C with K@C|pg|| nt|pelu: not easy when two players from so dif nations and diff style play together|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s9|pc|sJ|pg|| nt|pelu: 5@H ask for @DQ - better 5Nt ask for @C-cue|pg|| pc|s3|pc|h9|pc|sQ|nt|tsadek: 5NT here will beter than 5@H to know k@C|pg|| pc|s4|pg|| pc|c2|nt|Walddk1: Hello Rado and Martin|pg|| nt|fabsayc: hi Rado, spectators|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg|| nt|rado: hello:)|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o2|st||md|4S8642H832DJT8752C,S975HAQT754DK6C42,SAQJ3HKJ9DCAQJT93,SKTH6DAQ943CK8765|sv|n|nt|murat: yes. no dbl no trouble|pg|| mb|1D|nt|murat: this hand might be intresting|pg|| mb|p|mb|1H|mb|d|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2H|nt|blum1956: it looks like 2@c-pass-2@h-??|pg|| mb|3C|mb|d|nt|blum1956: From North's point of view 5 spades with South is enough for the game|pg|| nt|murat: it's getting hot here :)|pg|| mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dK|nt|murat: well dbl made them find their spade fit|pg|| nt|blum1956: North is most cautious but right he is |pg|| pc|s3|pc|d4|pc|d5|pg|| nt|murat: this one has some chances to make|pg|| nt|blum1956: certainly |pg|| pc|cT|pc|c6|pc|h3|pc|c2|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c7|nt|murat: should continue playing on clubs|pg|| pc|h8|pc|c4|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|h2|nt|murat: he knows w has no more clubs|pg|| pc|s5|pg|| nt|murat: he'll start making crossruffs|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sA|pc|sT|pc|s2|pg|| nt|blum1956: Was'nt It better to lead the @cqQ instead of the @cA?|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c8|nt|murat: so w played a spade|pg|| pc|d2|pc|s9|pg|| pc|d6|pc|sQ|pc|d3|pc|d7|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cK|pc|s4|pc|h4|pg|| pc|d8|pc|h5|pc|sJ|mc|9|pg|| qx|c2|st||md|4S8642H832DJT8752C,S975HAQT754DK6C42,SAQJ3HKJ9DCAQJT93,SKTH6DAQ943CK8765|sv|n|nt|fabsayc: lucky not to be doubled|pg|| mb|1D|an|.|mb|p|mb|2D|an|.|nt|rado: again some action with all hands non-balanced|pg|| nt|rado: N may bid @C 1st hoping to introduce @S later by DBL , or direct start with DBL|pg|| mb|3C|mb|p|nt|vugraphpl8: http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|h6|pc|h2|nt|alok_daga: Hi all|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h9|pg|| nt|rado: hi|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hJ|pc|c5|nt|glen: some partnerships have given up game invites on the N type hands, just blast 4@S and hope the unknown nature of the hand can help|pg|| pc|h3|pg|| nt|glen: here the 3@h and then 4@S indicates a stonger idea|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|nt|glen: but hard for N to find the perfect cards in the S hand for slam|pg|| pc|d6|pc|c3|pg|| nt|glen: greco-hampson (in another match) reached 3@S|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|d5|pc|c2|pg|| nt|glen: and their opps did likewise|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c7|pc|d7|pc|c4|pg|| nt|alok_daga: the last hand,a pretty hand 2 defeat 5hrts,wud require gud defence|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cK|pc|s2|pc|h7|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dT|pc|dK|pc|c9|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c8|pc|s4|pc|hT|pg|| nt|pelu: I am not impressed :)|pg|| nt|tsadek: noe either @H 3-3 or A@D with 4@H|pg|| pc|sA|pc|sT|pc|s6|pc|s7|pg|| pc|sJ|nt|pelu: or @C 10 by East|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s8|pc|s5|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d8|pc|s9|pc|s3|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o3|st||md|1SQ4HQ9DJT852CAQ63,S95HAK64DQ9763C87,SA732H8532DAKCT52,SKJT86HJT7D4CKJ94|sv|e|nt|murat: it would be the same i guess|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1S|nt|Walddk8: 2 segments of 14 boards in the R32, R16, QF and SF. 3 x 16 in the finals on Wednesday|pg|| mb|2C|an|!D|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|murat: when you check the names of the players, you'll see that there are lots of strong teams in last 32|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|h2|pg|| nt|murat: this will go down|pg|| nt|blum1956: and some number of them outside the last 32 as well))|pg|| nt|murat: exactly |pg|| nt|blum1956: Probably the Polish team will win this board|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c2|pc|c4|nt|murat: yes. by the way Dutch team got a deserved 6imps on last board|pg|| pc|cQ|pg|| nt|murat: w did well to play a trump|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|d4|pg|| pc|dA|pc|c9|pc|d5|pc|d6|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|c5|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|cT|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h9|pc|h4|pc|h3|pg|| pc|h7|pc|s4|pc|hA|pc|h5|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|sQ|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c3|st||md|1SQ4HQ9DJT852CAQ63,S95HAK64DQ9763C87,SA732H8532DAKCT52,SKJT86HJT7D4CKJ94|sv|e|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|an|.|mb|1S|nt|rado: disciplinned pass by S non vuln vs Vuln|pg|| mb|2D|mb|p|nt|alok_daga: Qx,Qx,hardly an opening hand,M also 2 2|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|pelu: here NL had 5½ bidding-round to find 4@S with 6@s almost cold|pg|| pc|s9|nt|glen: in the other room EW made six bids without @S, but then accidently bid the suit to play there|pg|| nt|rado: we've seen many wild openings those days:)|pg|| pc|s2|nt|glen: the 4@S bid here will be enough to get to slam now|pg|| nt|glen: even though EW are just temporary italians, they will use roman keycard blackwood|pg|| nt|pelu: for sure ita not easy to find out that the hands fit so well|pg|| nt|glen: Q. what is 2NT, A. unknown to us, but likely forcing game try, that in this case is a slam try|pg|| pc|sK|nt|tsadek: 2NT want to know 2@S with 3card or 4card|pg|| nt|pelu: 2NT could be invit+|pg|| nt|tsadek: 4@S max 4card @S|pg|| pc|s4|pg|| nt|alok_daga: True,Rado,the openings r getting wilder by the day|pg|| pc|cJ|nt|glen: wow|pg|| nt|pelu: if so, then 4@s stronger than 3@s|pg|| nt|glen: or in this case, reverse wow|pg|| nt|fabsayc: the funny thing is the light to wild openings don't seem to ever work, one wonders the attraction|pg|| nt|alok_daga: Query,wud u sell 2 a 2dmnds or xle from Easts hand?P marked with strength|pg|| nt|rado: Declarer mau like @c continuation|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c7|pc|c2|pg|| nt|fabsayc: east does not have a second bid|pg|| nt|rado: 3 rounds of @C now|pg|| pc|d2|nt|pelu: its difficult - I dont expect many tables will bid this slam|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dK|pc|d4|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s6|pc|sQ|pc|s5|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|s8|pg|| nt|alok_daga: If u follow Mike Lawrence he shud be competing!|pg|| pc|sA|pc|sT|pc|h9|pc|d6|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|hA|nt|pelu: so far 2 out of 6 in slam|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h7|pc|d8|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|c5|pc|c4|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dQ|pc|s7|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|h4|nt|glen: and some not even in @S|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hT|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|c3|mc|7|pg|| qx|o4|st||md|2SAKQTHJ65DJ3CQ875,S87HT97DKT72CAK62,SJ6432HAQ3DAQ8CJ9,S95HK842D9654CT43|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2N|an|9-14, 3+!S|mb|p|mb|3C|an|art, game try or slam try|mb|p|mb|3D|an|opening values|nt|blum1956: strange mistake by Piotr Tuszynski - he better should have led the small heart after overruffing|pg|| mb|p|mb|4S|an|game try|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d6|pc|d3|pc|d7|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s9|pc|sA|pc|s7|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s8|pc|s2|pc|s5|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cA|pc|c9|pc|c4|pg|| pc|h9|nt|blum1956: Where did the declarer in the closed room find the 11th trick?|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hK|pc|h5|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o5|st||md|3SJ985HT7DAQ9CAT85,SAKT72H5DT654CK63,S6HAQJ943D3CJ9742,SQ43HK862DKJ872CQ|sv|n|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c2|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|d7|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d5|pc|s6|pc|dK|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|h3|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h7|pc|h5|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|hT|pc|s2|pg|| nt|blum1956: The declarer had the unique chance here - cross to the hand with the @hA and take the diamond finesse|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d9|pc|dT|pc|h4|pg|| pc|c4|pc|s3|pc|cT|pc|cK|pg|| pc|d6|pc|h9|pc|d2|pc|c5|pg|| pc|c7|pc|h6|pc|c8|pc|c3|pg|| pc|d8|mc|7|nt|blum1956: But he needed to know all four hands to play that way|pg|| pg|| qx|c5|st||md|3SJ985HT7DAQ9CAT85,SAKT72H5DT654CK63,S6HAQJ943D3CJ9742,SQ43HK862DKJ872CQ|sv|n|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|4S|nt|pelu: back to the slam in bopard 23 : 10 out of 26 in 6@S - more than I expected|pg|| mb|p|nt|vugraphpl8: http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/osw2t1-1.htm|pg|| mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|nt|glen: some how a partscore got in here, will call the TD|pg|| mb|p|pc|d3|nt|alok_daga: gud xle|pg|| pc|d2|nt|glen: in the other room E led a trump|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|glen: assuming the JT98 lead would not hurt, and could stop a @C ruff|pg|| nt|glen: here E switches to that horse at trick two|pg|| pc|d6|pg|| pc|hT|nt|glen: if NS had enough communication after drawing trumps, could bring in @Ds for no losers|pg|| pc|h5|nt|vugraphpl8: http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pg|| nt|alok_daga: Mansfield proved right yet again,5level belongs 2 opponent.5hrts=1dwn thus this 300 the best they cud do|pg|| nt|alok_daga: actually on cl Q lead 4hrts also dwn?|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cQ|nt|pelu: diff - even with open cards - to find more that 7 tricks for N|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c3|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|h3|pc|d7|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dT|pc|s6|pc|d8|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h6|pc|h7|nt|glen: but here it looks like a @H, 3@C, @S and a @D for the defense|pg|| pc|s2|pg|| pc|sA|pc|h4|pc|s3|pc|s5|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o6|st||md|4SAT954HK8DQT87C87,SKQ86HJ976DK4CAQJ,SJ2H43DA932CT9542,S73HAQT52DJ65CK63|sv|e|mb|p|mb|2S|an|5!S 4+...|nt|murat: So Otvosi gets the lead now|pg|| mb|2N|mb|4C|nt|blum1956: beautiful score for the Dutch in the closed room|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c7|nt|bobholl: hi all :)|pg|| nt|blum1956: South knows diamonds are their suit so he could lead a dimond but happily avoided that|pg|| nt|blum1956: hi |pg|| pc|cA|nt|murat: hello Bob :)|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c6|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|hK|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cJ|pc|c2|pc|cK|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h8|pc|h6|pc|h4|pg|| nt|bobholl: if nS don't play @D it will go down i saw mecksroth rodwell play @D but there E played the K (normal)|pg|| pc|s3|nt|blum1956: If Jansma ducks this he probably could be endplayed|pg|| nt|blum1956: No, this is not true...|pg|| nt|bobholl: i fear jansma will play @D :(|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sK|pc|s2|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c4|pc|c3|pc|s5|pg|| pc|h7|pc|cT|pc|hQ|pc|d7|pg|| nt|blum1956: Jansma knows the precise distribution|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sQ|pc|d2|pc|d5|pg|| pc|s8|pc|c9|pc|h5|pc|s9|pg|| pc|dJ|nt|murat: a confident defence by Jansma|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c6|st||md|4SAT954HK8DQT87C87,SKQ86HJ976DK4CAQJ,SJ2H43DA932CT9542,S73HAQT52DJ65CK63|sv|e|nt|rado: but hard to pass with W hand and non vuln vs red|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2D|an|.|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|nt|glen: TD has corrected problem, now back to games and slams|pg|| nt|alok_daga: true.on club Q lead will have 2 play hrt 2 ACE,DMND FINNESEE 2 MAKE THE CONTRACT|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c9|pc|c3|pc|c7|nt|pelu: the slam in 24 (6@h) bid by 11 out of 26|pg|| nt|rado: declarer will need Opps to touch @D suit to make this otherwise down 1|pg|| pc|cQ|pg|| nt|pelu: high standard here in the A-swiss|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h3|pc|h2|nt|glen: Q. more information. A. tournament site: http://www.poznan2011.pl/ bbo archives: http://www.bridgebase.com/vugraph_archives/vugraph_archives.php|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/osw2t1-1.htm|pg|| nt|glen: (the last link just above is the running scores)|pg|| nt|glen: note the seniors just have walking scores|pg|| pc|hK|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sK|pc|s2|nt|pelu: now u owe me a drink, Glen :)|pg|| pc|s3|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h4|pc|hQ|nt|pelu: or 2 :)|pg|| pc|h8|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d4|pc|dA|pc|d5|pg|| mc|10|nt|alok_daga: Reqd passive defence|pg|| pg|| qx|o7|st||md|1S76HJT953D652CAT7,S95H874DAKJC65432,SAQT8432H2DQ743C8,SKJHAKQ6DT98CKQJ9|sv|b|nt|bobholl: well done by jan (jansma)|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|bobholl: what to open as N 1 2 3 or 4@S :)|pg|| nt|bobholl: guess one pass left out :)|pg|| nt|blum1956: 3 is usually enough|pg|| nt|blum1956: and more safe|pg|| mb|3S|nt|vugraphpl3: sorry!|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|nt|blum1956: 4@s may be doubled and set for 500|pg|| mb|4C|mb|p|mb|5C|nt|bobholl: would bid 5@C now :(|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h2|pc|hA|nt|bobholl: luckily no @D lead :)|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h8|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c8|pg|| nt|blum1956: not necessary "would"... in the closed room East did pass|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h7|pc|s8|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c7|pc|c3|pc|s2|pg|| nt|bobholl: 5@C is not a bad contract |pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cT|pc|c4|pc|s4|pg|| nt|blum1956: Not a bad after all, yes|pg|| nt|bobholl: @H 33 or @D Q rigth|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d6|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sA|pc|sJ|pc|s6|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|s7|pc|s5|pg|| pc|c9|pc|d2|pc|c5|mc|10|nt|bobholl: or a squeeze which he tried|pg|| pg|| qx|c7|st||md|1S76HJT953D652CAT7,S95H874DAKJC65432,SAQT8432H2DQ743C8,SKJHAKQ6DT98CKQJ9|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|d|mb|p|mb|4C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|h5|nt|pelu: only 3 top-losers in 4@s but not 10 tricks|pg|| nt|glen: E hunting for a number here|pg|| pc|h8|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c2|nt|glen: if N can open that hand type in 3rd seat, S should not bid bidding 3@H on a 3-3-3-4|pg|| pc|c8|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h4|pc|s4|pc|hQ|pg|| nt|rado: good stop by EW, 5@C needs @D finesse|pg|| nt|alok_daga: prediction.this brd will cost IMPS|pg|| nt|rado: yes N might open 4@S 3rd pos:)|pg|| nt|alok_daga: Y,7 411 MAY TEMPT HIM!|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c7|pc|c3|pc|s2|pg|| nt|glen: the @D 2 in some partnerships would indicate some values in @Ds, not the switch from 7642|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cT|nt|glen: i have no idea why the @D switch was tempting|pg|| pc|c4|pc|s3|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d5|nt|pelu: not the best defense - better @h 10 - 3x@h and a lot of @s-tricks for EW|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d3|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|sJ|pc|s6|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d9|pc|d2|pc|dJ|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o8|st||md|2SA6HJ87D962CKQ976,ST7HK9543DAQJT3CT,SKQ85HAQ6DK75CA85,SJ9432HT2D84CJ432|sv|o|mb|1H|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hT|pc|hJ|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|c6|pc|cT|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|h3|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h4|pc|h6|pc|h2|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|s5|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sT|pc|sK|pc|s3|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c3|pc|c9|pc|d3|pg|| nt|bobholl: guess he put the 9:)|pg|| pc|cQ|mc|12|pg|| qx|c8|st||md|2SA6HJ87D962CKQ976,ST7HK9543DAQJT3CT,SKQ85HAQ6DK75CA85,SJ9432HT2D84CJ432|sv|o|mb|2D|nt|pelu: 800 if !§H10 - but only a diff of 2IMP|pg|| mb|d|mb|r|an|.|nt|rado: easy 3NT for NS10-11 tricks|pg|| mb|3C|nt|alok_daga: 2dmnds=?in their methods|pg|| mb|3D|mb|3N|mb|p|nt|fabsayc: a mystery :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|hT|nt|rado: seems lie Wylkos 2@D 5M5+ unknown|pg|| nt|rado: *like|pg|| nt|rado: for Sure E tryes to attak in partner's long Major|pg|| nt|alok_daga: seems xxle=bid your next suit,thus 2dmnds=dmnds+another.cant think of anything else|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| nt|rado: maybe our kibs from Netherlands will help?|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c6|pc|cT|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c3|nt|glen: 3NT in the other room is one of those few 3NT contracts where there are 8 tricks, but almost no hope of 9|pg|| pc|cK|pc|h3|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h5|pc|h6|pc|h2|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|s5|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sT|pc|sK|pc|s3|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s4|pc|d2|pc|d3|pg|| pc|c8|nt|pelu: very normal - when u have 8 tricks in yopur hand - u hope for the 9. by partner - I like 3Nt by East|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|h4|pg|| pc|c9|pc|h9|pc|d5|pc|c4|pg|| nt|fabsayc: that was queen of spades, not eight|pg|| pc|c7|pc|dT|pc|hQ|pc|d4|pg|| pc|h8|pc|dJ|pc|sQ|pc|d8|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|s9|pg|| pc|d7|pc|sJ|pc|d9|pc|dA|pg|| pg|| qx|o9|st||md|3SK953H6DQT9872CK5,SJ8HK7DKJ543CQJ86,SA42HA432DA6CA742,SQT76HQJT985DCT93|sv|e|mb|1N|mb|2D|an| |mb|d|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|d|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hQ|pc|h6|pc|hK|pc|h2|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hA|pc|h8|pc|s3|pg|| pc|dA|nt|bobholl: @D intermediates are good enough :)|pg|| pc|cT|pc|d2|pc|d3|pg|| pc|d6|pc|s6|pc|d7|pc|dJ|pg|| nt|bobholl: in other room they ducked 1@H too much|pg|| mc|9|nt|bobholl: and switched to @C|pg|| nt|bobholl: the defence i mean |pg|| pg|| qx|c9|st||md|3SK953H6DQT9872CK5,SJ8HK7DKJ543CQJ86,SA42HA432DA6CA742,SQT76HQJT985DCT93|sv|e|nt|glen: if W had SK, instead of @SQ, and @Hs still blocked, 9 tricks|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2H|nt|glen: this was a tough choice for E in the other room - if NS are playing a modern style, bidding without high card points, then EW may have game|pg|| nt|alok_daga: guess the color of the brd prevented east from entering the auction|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: all bbo tables- http://www.bridgebase.com/mobile/|pg|| mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|p|nt|pelu: 2@H overcall (alomst) OK - but why did East bid on in CR? - and here??|pg|| mb|p|pc|hQ|nt|rado: nice stop by NS|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hK|pc|h2|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h3|pc|h8|nt|pelu: just to penalyse partner - u cant exoect that u can make game - so pass to 2@H - only game on Thankgivingsday and Christmas :)|pg|| pc|s3|pg|| nt|alok_daga: prediction proved wrong,4clubs=+6 IMPS|pg|| pc|c9|nt|alok_daga: XXLEDUMMY West gets thrown in,forced 2 play dmnds.whether declarer takes that line or not is different|pg|| nt|rado: K@C and Q@D now|pg|| nt|rado: with 52 cards:) |pg|| pc|c5|nt|rado: but declarer probably will play A@D to keep entries to Dummy|pg|| pc|c6|nt|pelu: agre, Glen?|pg|| pc|cA|pg|| pc|dA|pc|h5|pc|d2|pc|d3|pg|| pc|d6|pc|s6|pc|d7|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|cK|pg|| pc|d8|pc|dK|pc|s2|nt|glen: i think if it depends on the NS actually, if meckwell bid 1@S-p-1NT, they may have 10 points and we have 30|pg|| pc|h9|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c4|pc|cT|pc|s5|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c7|pc|s7|nt|pelu: u dont have good fit for @H, a for sure only a min-min hand for invit|pg|| pc|d9|pg|| mc|7|nt|alok_daga: wd for a gud pass|pg|| pg|| qx|o10|st||md|4SK984H8742DAQC753,SQ32HAKTD742CJT84,S6HQ653DK9653CKQ6,SAJT75HJ9DJT8CA92|sv|b|nt|blum1956: I guess Tuczynski will open|pg|| nt|bobholl: me too :(|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C|an| |mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h7|nt|blum1956: 7 IMPS depend on Tuszynski's declarer play|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|hJ|pg|| nt|blum1956: But his chances are low|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|h5|pc|h9|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pc|c7|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s4|pc|sQ|nt|bobholl: if jan (jansma ) signaled @C correctly it will go down|pg|| pc|d6|pg|| pc|s3|pc|d3|pc|sA|pc|s8|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s9|pc|d2|nt|bobholl: only a@H is good :)|pg|| pc|h6|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c3|pc|cJ|pc|c6|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hQ|pc|s7|pc|h4|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|c8|pc|cK|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c10|st||md|4SK984H8742DAQC753,SQ32HAKTD742CJT84,S6HQ653DK9653CKQ6,SAJT75HJ9DJT8CA92|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|vugraphpl8: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/or32runda1.html|pg|| pg|| qx|o11|st||md|1S42HAQ63DQJCAQ932,ST3HKT52DA62CJ864,SAK865H984DK983CK,SQJ97HJ7DT754CT75|sv|o|mb|2C|an|precision|nt|bobholl: i don't know their polish @C but guess jan will open 2@C|pg|| mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|bobholl: i see only 8 tricks but the 9th will surely come :)|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|sA|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c5|pc|c2|pc|c4|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d4|pc|dJ|pc|dA|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sK|pc|s7|pc|s4|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|dQ|pc|d2|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|s5|pc|c7|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c8|pc|s6|pc|cT|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cJ|pc|h4|nt|bobholl: there he is :)|pg|| nt|bobholl: but he may be can't reach the @DK so has to guess @H|pg|| pc|sJ|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h9|pc|hJ|pc|h3|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h8|pc|h7|mc|9|nt|bobholl: with all cards open i can see that duck now works|pg|| pg|| qx|c11|st||md|1S42HAQ63DQJCAQ932,ST3HKT52DA62CJ864,SAK865H984DK983CK,SQJ97HJ7DT754CT75|sv|o|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|fabsayc: we hit those light openings so hard they were intimidated to open :)|pg|| mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h2|nt|rado: another quiet board now|pg|| pc|h9|nt|fabsayc: the ninth trick on the lead|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c6|pc|cK|nt|alok_daga: how gud can this nt be?QJ tight in 1 suit,1 suit barren.agreed 1cl 1sp response presents problems but 1nt?|pg|| pc|c5|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pg|| nt|rado: will will make 10 since W cannot lead 2nd @H now|pg|| nt|alok_daga: the steamroller at work,22 IMPS lead|pg|| nt|alok_daga: 21|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d8|pc|d7|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|s5|pc|c7|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c8|pc|s6|pc|cT|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cJ|pc|h4|pc|s7|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|h3|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h7|pc|hA|pc|h5|pg|| pc|c9|pc|hK|pc|d9|pc|dT|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|s9|pg|| pc|sA|pc|sJ|pc|s4|pc|sT|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sQ|pc|h6|pc|hT|pg|| pg|| qx|o12|st||md|2S62HA53D32CAJT542,SKQ4HKQ2DJ8CKQ963,STHJT874DK97654C7,SAJ98753H96DAQTC8|sv|n|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|4C|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|nt|bobholl: guess short @C w will be not enthousiastic |pg|| mb|5D|nt|bobholl: the @D K rigth migth save them but 2 aces away :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|5H|mb|p|mb|6S|nt|bobholl: his @S are fine for a man who bid 4@S previously|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hJ|mc|11|nt|bobholl: jan saw the dummy with pleasure :)|pg|| pg|| qx|c12|st||md|2S62HA53D32CAJT542,SKQ4HKQ2DJ8CKQ963,STHJT874DK97654C7,SAJ98753H96DAQTC8|sv|n|mb|1N|nt|rado: 5@S makable for EW now|pg|| mb|p|mb|2H|an|.|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|nt|rado: E will try for Slam for sure|pg|| mb|3H|an|.|nt|rado: maybe 2nd transfer to show slam interest|pg|| mb|p|mb|3S|an|.|mb|p|mb|3N|an|.|mb|p|nt|rado: W has good support so keeps the level low|pg|| nt|alok_daga: dont think they will have2 reach 5 East has expressed all he had 2 say|pg|| mb|4S|nt|rado: oooops|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|fabsayc: i prefer a self splinter of 4@C on second turn|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|rado: yes always good not to risk 5 lvl, nice bidding from EW here|pg|| nt|fabsayc: perhaps east showed his singleton|pg|| nt|alok_daga: assume 3hrts,3nt meant some sort of shortage|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c7|pc|c8|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|h9|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o13|st||md|3SAQ9HJ5DKQ64CKQJ7,S832H98DA853CAT54,SKJ76HKQ7DJT92C62,ST54HAT6432D7C983|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|nt|blum1956: Bidding that way the Otvosi team will hardly advance|pg|| mb|1C!|an| |mb|p|nt|vugraphpl3: next Round 12.30 :)|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2D|an|GD relay, usualny 18-19|mb|p|mb|3D|an|4!S 7-9|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h8|pc|hK|nt|bobholl: guess he will make 10 tricks now|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h5|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d7|pc|d4|pc|d3|pg|| nt|blum1956: The score from the closed room looks a little bit strange - what tricks may the defense get except thre Aces?|pg|| pc|d2|pc|c3|pc|dQ|pc|d5|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|dT|pc|c8|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h7|pc|hA|pc|hJ|pg|| nt|bobholl: @C lead may be|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c2|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c13|st||md|3SAQ9HJ5DKQ64CKQJ7,S832H98DA853CAT54,SKJ76HKQ7DJT92C62,ST54HAT6432D7C983|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|an|.|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2D|an|.|mb|p|mb|2S|an|.|nt|fabsayc: 2@D asks size and spade length by steps|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c4|pc|c2|pc|c8|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d8|pc|d2|pc|d7|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d9|pc|h3|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c6|pc|c9|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|dT|pc|h6|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|h2|pc|d6|pc|d5|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s4|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s3|pc|s7|pc|s5|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s8|pc|sJ|pc|sT|pg|| pc|sK|pc|h4|pc|h5|pc|h8|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hA|pc|hJ|pc|h9|pg|| pc|c3|mc|11|nt|fabsayc: looked like 600, not 660|pg|| pg|| qx|o14|st||md|4S852HQ6DAQ942CQT8,SAJT93HJ8DK86CKJ5,S764HA75432D5C743,SKQHKT9DJT73CA962|sv|o|mb|1C|an| |mb|1D|nt|blum1956: yes you're right - underlead the @cA twice|pg|| mb|1H|an| |mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|bobholl: guess that ew will make more tricks than 9 in NT|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d4|pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|d3|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h2|pc|h9|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|h3|pc|d7|pg|| nt|blum1956: if Jansma clears the diamond suit now Tuszynski will stay before a difficult choice|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s3|pc|s7|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h6|pc|h8|pc|hA|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hK|pc|d2|pc|d8|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|s4|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s6|pc|dJ|pc|s8|pg|| pc|sT|pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|d9|pg|| nt|bobholl: south in a @C D squeeze now|pg|| pc|s9|pc|h5|pc|c6|nt|bobholl: @D|pg|| mc|10|nt|blum1956: thanks all|pg|| nt|bobholl: tya cu later :)|pg|| nt|vugraphpl3: thanks see you 12.30|pg|| pg|| qx|c14|st||md|4S852HQ6DAQ942CQT8,SAJT93HJ8DK86CKJ5,S764HA75432D5C743,SKQHKT9DJT73CA962|sv|o|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2D|nt|vugraphpl8: sry|pg|| mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d4|pc|d6|pc|d5|pc|d7|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c8|pc|cJ|pc|c3|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h2|pc|h9|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d8|pc|h3|pc|d3|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dK|pc|h4|pc|dT|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s7|pc|sK|pc|s5|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|s6|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s4|pc|c2|pc|s8|pg|| pc|sT|pc|c4|pc|hT|pc|h6|pg|| pc|s9|pc|c7|pc|hK|pc|d9|pg|| mc|9|nt|vugraphpl8: next match at 12.30|pg|| pg||