vg|A EC 2011 Open Teams 16 _,2_2,I,15,28,Patane,39,Texan Aces,30| rs|2DNx-2,1NE+3,4SS+2,4HN+1,2SE+1,2SE=,2DE+2,2SN-1,4HW=,4HW=,5CN+2,5CS+1,4HW+1,4HW+1,4HE=,3HE+1,2SN-1,3SS-1,3DE+1,2DE+1,2HS-1,2SW=,1NS-2,2NE-1,3SS-1,3SS-1,2SW-1,2SW-1| pn|Manno,SUNDERRAM,Lanzarotti,SRIDHARAN ,Anklesaria,Caiti,Venkatesh,Pattacini|pg|| qx|o15|st||md|1ST93HQ5DAQ854CA97,S8762H9873DJCKQ42,SJ54HJT62D7632CT3,SAKQHAK4DKT9CJ865|sv|n|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|psyck: Texans squeeked through to R16, narrowly beating the fancied Monaco Z by 2 imps, lets see if they will continue to ride the good winds...|pg|| mb|2C|nt|psyck: N planning to pass any response|pg|| mb|d|nt|bagman: in weak NT sequences X of stayman is not lead directing but promising strength|pg|| mb|p|nt|bagman: similar to 1NT X|pg|| mb|p|mb|2D|nt|alok_daga: Hi all|pg|| mb|d|nt|psyck: maybe S should bid 2@d with clear preferance for no other contract|pg|| nt|bagman: NS are vulnerable but they have 9 card diamond fit|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|alok_daga: Even with their 9 card fit ,a 500 beckons|pg|| nt|bagman: Lanzarotti might try another escape|pg|| nt|psyck: I suppose the 2nd X shows more extras or @d's & hence W decides he has enough to pass especially at this vulnerability|pg|| nt|cumino: Hi all|pg|| nt|psyck: ciao|pg|| mb|p|nt|alok_daga: S&S have been playing 2gether for 20+yrs,know each others methods reasonably well|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s3|pc|s8|pc|s5|pg|| nt|psyck: Hi Alokji|pg|| nt|alok_daga: Hi|pg|| nt|bagman: NS have found the best spot but still likely to go at least -500|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s9|pc|s2|pc|s4|pg|| nt|alok_daga: crrect defence,800?|pg|| pc|sA|pc|sT|pc|s6|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h5|pc|h9|pc|h2|pg|| pc|hA|pc|hQ|pc|h3|pc|h6|pg|| nt|psyck: @c ruff gives entry to dummy for @d fin|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c7|nt|psyck: so 2 more to defense|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c3|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d2|pc|d9|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|dA|pc|s7|pc|d3|pc|dT|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|cT|pc|c5|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cK|pc|d6|nt|alok_daga: if the weak nt gains in its premption,also loses when caught on the wrong foot,OR=180|pg|| pc|c8|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dK|pc|d4|nt|buddyshah: hi|pg|| pc|c4|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|d5|pc|h7|pc|hT|pg|| pc|d8|pc|h8|pc|hJ|pc|h4|pg|| pg|| qx|c15|st||md|1ST93HQ5DAQ854CA97,S8762H9873DJCKQ42,SJ54HJT62D7632CT3,SAKQHAK4DKT9CJ865|sv|n|nt|bagman: Hi all|pg|| nt|jfaria: hi all|pg|| nt|runnerup: hi all|pg|| nt|kirp: ok looks we r ready|pg|| nt|jfaria: hi all|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: hi all|pg|| mb|1D|nt|kirp: hello |pg|| nt|royhughes: Welcome Sunil, Joao|pg|| nt|rcerreto: hi all|pg|| mb|p|nt|Gerben42: welcome back in Poznan|pg|| nt|davpro: Morning all|pg|| nt|Walddk4: yes h missing|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Please operator|pg|| nt|roswolf: a difficult grand to bid|pg|| nt|MolvaM: it seems bochi plays in both rooms :)|pg|| nt|danilo1: Ola Joao, Hi all|pg|| nt|kirp: interesting hand to start off with, NS in @Hs, EW in @Ds|pg|| nt|runnerup: here norht has 5-6 -majors and opened-now ew shoud find 5 @d that is the goal let see|pg|| nt|glen: the problem with 4@C is that 3NT is no longer possible|pg|| mb|p|nt|roswolf: hi all|pg|| nt|roswolf: hi all|pg|| nt|glen: the good news is that W can't show both majors as over 3@C|pg|| mb|d|nt|hawe45: A splinter in North would do fine - in later defense|pg|| nt|jfaria: ola Danilo|pg|| nt|granguru: brogeland for Angelini team and zapadinski for Mirage arrived|pg|| nt|glen: with the @D layout, 5@C loses a @S and two @Ds|pg|| nt|bagman: Hi all|pg|| nt|benjy: Good afternoon everyone|pg|| mb|p|nt|jbgood: hi|pg|| nt|davpro: Thx operator. It looked like an forcing pass-opening :)|pg|| mb|1H|nt|runnerup: this is 200 -not enought but ..|pg|| nt|toral5: hello all|pg|| nt|toral5: so we start with a cracker|pg|| nt|pelu: hi all|pg|| mb|p|nt|davpro: Who is Brogeland playing with?|pg|| nt|roswolf: ty operator|pg|| nt|kirp: they need to take ruff quickly or 4@H makes|pg|| nt|benjy: Would be a normal 2NT reopening for me|pg|| mb|1N|nt|kirp: intersting hand to start off with|pg|| nt|granguru: this is round 6/7 of swiss stage in poznan, Poland|pg|| nt|kirp: looks like down 1 or 2|pg|| nt|benjy: 19-21|pg|| mb|p|nt|davpro: Ah- there the name came|pg|| nt|runnerup: @s ruff needed|pg|| nt|granguru: Looks like precision system in NS |pg|| mb|p|nt|hawe45: You have seen too manu bad overcalls, when you sell out with the North hand|pg|| nt|roswolf: missing the @DQ they have to diagnose they have extra trump length to compensate|pg|| nt|kirp: dangerous hand as 5@D makes EW|pg|| nt|glen: in 5@S there is a loser in each suit, and a @H ruff possible|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: Hi Joao and Roy|pg|| nt|jfaria: hi Sunil and Roy|pg|| nt|jfaria: 2@d bal ?|pg|| nt|royhughes: EW have doubled the opponents at a rather low level here|pg|| nt|jfaria: think 2@d may show a strong bal hand|pg|| mb|p|nt|kirp: looks like both pairs play some version of Precision @C|pg|| nt|glen: 5-over-5 bids have approximately a 90% chance of being wrong (you should have doubled instead)|pg|| nt|toral5: hi petur|pg|| nt|toral5: peter|pg|| nt|rcerreto: yes, I agree|pg|| nt|benjy: very unusual to play X then 1NT as a hand of this strength, is it possible he miscounted?!|pg|| nt|rcerreto: but someone insists to play it unusual (minors)|pg|| pc|d5|nt|jfaria: routine 4@s 4 those 2|pg|| nt|toral5: as the cards lie 5@D is down 2|pg|| nt|pelu: so same contract in both rooms|pg|| nt|benjy: if you do play that then X then 2NT |pg|| nt|rcerreto: which I'd rather avoid|pg|| pc|dJ|nt|Gerben42: south hand is known as Bridge World Death Hand (BWDH)|pg|| nt|Gerben42: invitational values with 3-card support for partner|pg|| nt|bagman: South has a nice hand with spade values and N has an easy raise to game with 2 aces|pg|| nt|hawe45: East has built a trap - will remove to 5 @H, only losing 100 I think|pg|| nt|hawe45: Is there a reward for "slowest bid hand of the tournament" - without special reason...|pg|| nt|bridge_one: Hello all|pg|| nt|runnerup: hi all|pg|| nt|hawe45: Hello|pg|| nt|jfaria: Zaleski needs some results tocach up the playoffs |pg|| nt|benjy: and a cold 3NT missed as a result - very odd|pg|| nt|othered1: Hi, everyone!|pg|| nt|rcerreto: still, ! and then 1NT is commonly played with some 15-17 or the like|pg|| pc|d2|nt|Gerben42: with Qxxxx x Axxx xxx North would pass and 4@S would be cold|pg|| nt|roswolf: 1nt played the other way round - no spade lead|pg|| pc|d9|pg|| nt|danilo1: 4@S will make (prob. +1) .. .in ev. 5@D, declarer needs to guess @H (must play 9 from hand) for -2 |pg|| nt|runnerup: very dangerous I wander if 3nt was to play or some minors|pg|| nt|rv: Hi specs, warm regards from sunny Bangalore in South India|pg|| pc|cK|nt|Gerben42: but there is normally no perfect answer|pg|| nt|hawe45: What a nice board to start with. South must play East for the @C Ace - or West for the same card single or double...! And 5 @H is fine|pg|| nt|toral5: and 5s is a mek|pg|| nt|rcerreto: 20 HCP looks way too much|pg|| pc|c3|nt|roswolf: 10 tricks are on ice here|pg|| nt|roswolf: players names will be up in a mo|pg|| nt|jbgood: going through the motions|pg|| nt|roswolf: 3 controls and west will ask for the queen|pg|| nt|roswolf: in the other room|pg|| nt|mcarroll: Morning Hans, all|pg|| nt|rv: Hi Ilya and Hans|pg|| nt|rv: Hi Martin|pg|| nt|hawe45: @D-lead, small @S back to defeat 5 @H|pg|| nt|jfaria: kind of 18-20|pg|| nt|royhughes: Then presumably the double was for takeout|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: has to set up @Cs|pg|| nt|royhughes: East is in a tough spot here|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: wud it hv been better to take @Sa and run @C(|pg|| nt|jfaria: if so, hard for W to bid something after O second round|pg|| pc|c5|nt|runnerup: looks dangerous -all tricks possible|pg|| nt|davpro: W probably showed 4@s and E might have shown 4@h. I don't know their system :(|pg|| nt|granguru: 5@C could have been made NS|pg|| nt|benjy: hi|pg|| nt|rcerreto: so, a solid 3NT goes away|pg|| pc|cA|pg|| nt|roswolf: didnt bother played his pard for 3+ diamonds or the queen|pg|| nt|roswolf: 3@D may yhave promised 3+diamonds|pg|| nt|kirp: @S suit was hidden by N|pg|| pc|c7|nt|MolvaM: who can hold Qxx diamonds? thats the question|pg|| nt|kirp: S must be disappinted that dummy has all 3 missing trumps|pg|| nt|benjy: At this level this kind of occurrence is very unusual|pg|| pc|c2|nt|jfaria: TO|pg|| pc|cT|nt|glen: however the reason for that 90% is often just a small problem in the layout of the cards that defeats the contract|pg|| nt|rv: 4@d is namyats, 8.5+ tricks with @s as trumps|pg|| pc|cJ|pg|| nt|roswolf: only problem is the potential 3-0 trump break|pg|| nt|roswolf: doesnt matter here:)|pg|| nt|MolvaM: does the lead tell any story|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s3|nt|jbgood: puppet i think - then 3@d shows 1 or 2 4 card majors, and deny 5|pg|| nt|mcarroll: Yes - and therefore the dbl by N a bit speculative|pg|| pc|s2|nt|hawe45: 13 tricks - over|pg|| pc|s4|pg|| nt|hawe45: or 12|pg|| pc|sK|nt|bagman: One of the answers is to use an artificial tool to separate hands with 3 card spades and those with 0-2|pg|| nt|bridge_one: and 6 is down with @H lead|pg|| nt|davpro: y- that was my guess too|pg|| pc|s9|nt|jbgood: then responder bids the suit he doesnt have |pg|| pc|s6|nt|rcerreto: indeed|pg|| pc|s5|pg|| nt|royhughes: I think Sunil may be right that going after clubs is better|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|granguru: Gomerov's X is a risky one...with 6@c and the void it is almost sure partner is waiting for a x to be converted|pg|| pc|sT|nt|runnerup: y a big swing for Joker to start|pg|| nt|kirp: looks like down 2 however|pg|| pc|s7|nt|athene: hi good morning everyone|pg|| nt|kirp: 3N looked ambiguous to me|pg|| nt|royhughes: It is a complicated hand|pg|| pc|sJ|pg|| nt|danilo1: both teams ... actually, this is the last table in grop A|pg|| pc|hA|nt|hawe45: Funny hand|pg|| nt|bridge_one: funny for N/S |pg|| nt|hawe45: 1590 - a score not seen so often...|pg|| pc|h5|nt|jfaria: since 4@h went down EW can collect some plus|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: nice hand to start with|pg|| nt|royhughes: Indeed|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h2|pg|| nt|mcarroll: Hi RV|pg|| pc|c6|nt|granguru: yes 3NT makes easily|pg|| nt|kirp: same result in OR|pg|| nt|kirp: and identical auction|pg|| pc|c9|nt|davpro: Declarer can count to 9. Lets see if he tries for more|pg|| nt|davpro: nope|pg|| nt|jbgood: he actually had 10 from the top if n really discarded 2 hearts|pg|| nt|rv: Texan Aces have a fantastic record in this event, they have won silver and bronze medals in last couple of editions|pg|| nt|rv: Zimmerman (Monaca Z) are one of the pre-tourney favorties and consist of multiple world champions|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|d3|pg|| nt|benjy: and this is not the kind of board e/w will want to start off with i.e. a sure losing board|pg|| nt|othered1: auctions beginning with a reopening bid are among the most troublesome, almost regardless your system|pg|| pc|s8|pc|d6|pc|dT|pc|d4|pg|| pc|c4|pc|d7|pc|c8|pc|d8|pg|| nt|benjy: I think he miscounted|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hQ|pc|h7|pc|h6|pg|| pc|h4|pc|dQ|pc|h8|pc|hT|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|dK|nt|royhughes: Declarer scored the king of diamonds but no club tricks|pg|| pc|dA|pc|h9|pg|| pg|| qx|o16|st||md|2ST8532HKJ9D963CQJ,SQ6HQ6DAKJ874CK82,SAKJHAT732D5CA764,S974H854DQT2CT953|sv|e|nt|psyck: Hu Buddy|pg|| nt|psyck: Hi|pg|| nt|bagman: Hi|pg|| nt|alok_daga: Hi Buddy|pg|| nt|psyck: this should end in a @h game making a couple of overtricks|pg|| nt|psyck: or @s game|pg|| mb|1N|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|nt|alok_daga: 1nt open,now game?|pg|| mb|2D|nt|psyck: not quite the opening i expected :)|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|nt|psyck: but fairly normal to bid NT with semibalanced hands within point range|pg|| nt|bagman: Defense might score 500 here with a club ruff|pg|| mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|bagman: However this is more secure income|pg|| nt|alok_daga: wd 2 keep the brd par|pg|| pc|dA|nt|alok_daga: the OR had a v easy auction|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d2|pc|d3|pg|| nt|psyck: yes well judged by S to jump i think with no @d wastage|pg|| nt|bagman: W might continue with a low diamond to attack dummy's top trumps|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Welcome to Alberto Gerli|pg|| pc|s6|nt|elbec: hello everybody. welcome to this very close match!|pg|| nt|psyck: ciao |pg|| nt|bagman: Declarer has quite a safe finesse here; if the finesse loses and a diamond comes back, declarer has the @HQ quite marked|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s4|pc|s2|pg|| nt|psyck: he can more or less place all values on bidding anyway|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|s3|pc|sQ|pg|| nt|bagman: One queen can be E; now it's the @DQ|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|hK|pc|h6|pg|| nt|psyck: as W may not have opened 1N with @dAKQJ6th|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|h5|pg|| nt|bagman: but might have with AKQxx|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s9|pc|s5|pc|d8|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h8|pc|hJ|pc|d4|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c3|pg|| nt|elbec: nicely done by manno who got all the finesses|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|c16|st||md|2ST8532HKJ9D963CQJ,SQ6HQ6DAKJ874CK82,SAKJHAT732D5CA764,S974H854DQT2CT953|sv|e|nt|eamongall: Here defence need to find the @C ruff in time to beat 4@Hs |pg|| nt|roswolf: 10 or 11 tricks operator?|pg|| nt|davpro: there was actually 12 to take (double dummie)|pg|| nt|pelu: hi all|pg|| nt|roswolf: solid start for the dutch|pg|| nt|MolvaM: good start|pg|| nt|roswolf: a fortuitous start for angelini|pg|| nt|roswolf: hu bill|pg|| nt|roswolf: hi bill:)|pg|| nt|roswolf: more spice here|pg|| nt|kirp: 1st board is not a nice way to wake up in the match|pg|| nt|kirp: slam in @Cs available here|pg|| nt|granguru: 6NT 6@s 6@c EW|pg|| nt|granguru: 6NT best contract|pg|| nt|granguru: 6@S worst one|pg|| nt|royhughes: I think he might have done a bit better establishing clubs, but it is very complex|pg|| nt|benjy: The only good news is that they weren't vulnerable so it won't be as expensive as it might have been|pg|| nt|benjy: 1NT from west?|pg|| mb|2D!|nt|davpro: 10 point all around. |pg|| nt|Walddk4: Welcome Peter and Murat|pg|| nt|MolvaM: hello|pg|| nt|athene: without the @DA Nunes would likely have led fourth best|pg|| nt|granguru: do u enter S?|pg|| nt|glen: W might start with Multi if that's available, or a 2@S weak two, or pass|pg|| nt|rv: North is G.Venkatesh, popularly known as Texas and based out of US, rest of team members from India|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: if @Cjx or qx was with west there were chances of making |pg|| nt|benjy: nope!|pg|| nt|benjy: any ideas guys? apart from 11-16 and nat?|pg|| nt|rcerreto: I'm sorry to admit that I don't know the system E-W are playing|pg|| mb|2H|nt|bridge_one: with 6/5 and only 1 defencive trick normally better to play in attack|pg|| nt|danilo1: strang - when we look in names here|pg|| nt|granguru: red vs green?|pg|| nt|glen: N has a flat hand, best to pass, and it make go all pass|pg|| mb|p|nt|Walddk1: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswrunda6.html|pg|| nt|pelu: prob 3NT - and hard work|pg|| mb|3H|nt|runnerup: perhaps east should take it away -he has got support in hearts so ..|pg|| nt|jbgood: Angelini seems to be in the A Swiss almost no matter what happens in this match|pg|| nt|roswolf: now a hand for n/s to bid|pg|| nt|runnerup: these guys have good nerves,but average players can shake a bit after start like this|pg|| nt|granguru: 2@C relay FG I think|pg|| mb|p|nt|davpro: y and Mossop will need a good result to joij them|pg|| nt|roswolf: fulvio has seen his pard's bids before|pg|| nt|glen: *may go|pg|| nt|glen: S is in there with a X, not sure what the next bid would be if N bids 3@D|pg|| mb|4H|nt|kirp: conservative pass by W|pg|| nt|royhughes: A kibitzer told me the West player's name is spelled Cem|pg|| mb|p|nt|davpro: *join|pg|| nt|jbgood: 24 vps to Mossop |pg|| nt|jbgood: 3 from each group to A - the others to B|pg|| nt|pelu: hard decision by S - 4@H is down 1 and 5@c also down 1|pg|| nt|MolvaM: 5c looks good|pg|| nt|pelu: sorry 5@c making - only defense is @H lead and the @S - kill the entry for the 4. @D|pg|| nt|jfaria: 5! still cheap if opps bid game|pg|| nt|glen: 3NT does well on a @S lead|pg|| nt|glen: not as good on a @D lead|pg|| nt|rv: best for both sides to stay low here, all suits and cards lying wrong|pg|| nt|hawe45: Stay low - double-dummy North might make 4 @S on a @H-lead and -ruff|pg|| nt|rv: North might bite the bullet and pass here|pg|| nt|pelu: but a make if u duck @D first time and play @C from S's hand|pg|| nt|jfaria: @s will prevail i think|pg|| mb|p|nt|hawe45: About 12 tricks again - but lucky and only in South|pg|| nt|bridge_one: Jxxx in @D are very much - the double by Versace means balanced hand value in @S - Zaleski can reopen|pg|| nt|Walddk1: Zapadinski is playing at both tables. Could you please check, operator?|pg|| nt|kirp: not sure it is a relay, artificial and GF yes, now natural|pg|| nt|granguru: 2@s suit 3@C suit|pg|| nt|granguru: Angelini deciding to bid 4@C passint the 3N barrier|pg|| mb|p|nt|MolvaM: kibs rush in to tell me that if defence plays spades 5c cant make|pg|| nt|runnerup: @s finess off so no game on|pg|| nt|kirp: looks like game 1 down|pg|| pc|d2|nt|jbgood: then 27 from A and 5 from B go on to the KO stage|pg|| nt|davpro: They found a 6-1 fit instead of the 6-0 fit. On level higher though|pg|| nt|pelu: has to take 3x@C befor @D|pg|| nt|kirp: no blackwood here|pg|| nt|jfaria: wrong|pg|| pc|d3|nt|eamongall: the non-vul Townsend might venture an insurance 4@Hs |pg|| nt|jbgood: but I think a black suit or even NT play better than @ds|pg|| nt|davpro: y|pg|| nt|roswolf: some sort of short suit trial bid?|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: following the law, S has passed and west has competed with 6 @Cs|pg|| pc|dK|nt|MolvaM: we see all 4 hands but sometimes at the table it is not obvious to shift to spades|pg|| nt|danilo1: 5@C is on ... and good to avoid 4@H, that is tempting in 4-3 fit (single @S on 3-card side)|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Welcome to Lech|pg|| nt|jfaria: but since 3 ! is a bit too high no problem for NS|pg|| pc|d5|pg|| nt|bridge_one: so 2@C forcing one round|pg|| nt|hawe45: Best lead: @S King|pg|| nt|hawe45: Sorry - NORTH is declarer... - wake up|pg|| nt|pelu: yes defense has to kill @SA|pg|| nt|glen: running scores: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswrunda7.html|pg|| nt|glen: top 27 teams in Swiss A, and top 5 in Swiss B play tomorrow|pg|| nt|glen: here we have 25 against 29 in a likely elimination match|pg|| nt|glen: W is thinking, why did my partner play the beer card (@D7)?|pg|| nt|glen: is it because of the beer garden just outside|pg|| nt|glen: it couldn't be fourth best, could it?|pg|| nt|glen: E is thinking, I led fourth best, what's the problem|pg|| pc|dA|nt|roswolf: south wont get in much to lead trumps|pg|| nt|hawe45: But would also make on the @S-lead|pg|| nt|bridge_one: lead small @S possible but @H equivalent - many use to overcall 1@S in West to give the lead|pg|| nt|bridge_one: with weak 5332 i agree to pass like Versace|pg|| nt|hawe45: But an overcall would put the contract in South, so...|pg|| nt|runnerup: nothing really helps,but contracts should have been by south this time -by n= -if spade lead,but now 12|pg|| nt|bridge_one: the option between @H and @S lead is a typical problem in bridge|pg|| nt|kirp: surprise pass by both!|pg|| nt|granguru: Angelini learns lessons..not passed this time..(as he did once with 10HCP)|pg|| pc|h2|nt|eamongall: Now defence need to get active |pg|| nt|roswolf: 2nt|pg|| nt|granguru: HI ALL|pg|| nt|MolvaM: 4s has good chances|pg|| nt|granguru: HI ALL|pg|| nt|granguru: Angelini probably showed no first red control a singleton @c support and good @s not more than 5|pg|| nt|kirp: hard to get to NT played by E, never sure of 7th @C|pg|| nt|othered1: maybe they play their 2-bids as sound minimum openings with 6-card suit. That's very playable in majors, but I h aven't thought through its value in @D or @C, unless to plug a ...|pg|| nt|othered1: system gap.|pg|| pc|dT|nt|MolvaM: with trump Kx inside and clubs 3-3 and the @dK safe|pg|| nt|lechcold: hello|pg|| nt|rcerreto: a good 4@h, with suits splitting evenly and honours well placed... looks an easy make|pg|| pc|d6|pg|| pc|h3|nt|roswolf: and wont necessarily lead one anyway:)|pg|| nt|jbgood: hi Roland and all|pg|| nt|jbgood: sry - wrong table:)|pg|| nt|jbgood: maybe 2 |pg|| nt|mcarroll: Board 1 in Open - playing 5@S|pg|| nt|rv: good defense by Balicki here|pg|| nt|hawe45: Actually @D-lead would have worked better for the defense|pg|| nt|rv: @d lead might have been better for defense|pg|| nt|jfaria: 3@c|pg|| nt|royhughes: Yes, NS certainly do not belong at the three level and 3@c should go down|pg|| pc|h4|nt|eamongall: still time |pg|| nt|bagman: N has to duck the @HK if W plays a low heart|pg|| nt|bagman: Both N and S know that there are no spade tricks to make|pg|| nt|MolvaM: even in the case of a spade shift, stuurman has to be very careful to keep all his diamonds and let his spade honor go|pg|| nt|pelu: also 3Nt in Or , but no @Dbid form East - and @H-lead from W - now easy|pg|| nt|pelu: but a strange lead @D was unbid suit|pg|| pc|hK|nt|bridge_one: i prefere to lead in the suit more solid, but without a solid suit i prefere the lead from small cards - but is is only a opinion|pg|| nt|jbgood: NT is more flexible than 3@d|pg|| pc|h6|pg|| nt|bagman: They also see the clubs so they can make extra tricks only from trumps|pg|| nt|glen: spec tells me they may play 3/5 leads|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|MolvaM: 46 teams playing in group A (27 will qualify), and 74 teams playing in group B (only 5 teams will qualify)|pg|| nt|kirp: win 1 imp|pg|| nt|royhughes: Well judged all around, I think|pg|| nt|benjy: with @Hs 3-2 and the @S as it is declarer won't have any problems here|pg|| pc|c2|nt|kirp: ty, thought N would bit it|pg|| nt|granguru: if 5@H over 5@C there was a chance...|pg|| nt|rv: maybe @SQ was better at trick 2 instead of another @c|pg|| pc|c4|nt|athene: a stronger defence was diamond lead, heart back, then another diamond|pg|| nt|rv: now down with rounded suit overruffs|pg|| nt|mcarroll: Getting to hand a problem for S, ruffing earlier @C wd have worked better|pg|| nt|rv: excellent defense by Balicki, Keyzad could have possibly scored contract if he had played @SQ at trick 2|pg|| nt|rv: on accurate defense 2 @c over-ruffs and 2 @h ruffs including @SK trump promotion|pg|| pc|c3|pg|| nt|mcarroll: Open room have just got to the same contract|pg|| nt|benjy: this seems an odd line though|pg|| pc|cJ|nt|sunsamvar: West is Cem Tokay and not Sem|pg|| pc|cK|nt|runnerup: ok inspite off 9 points north desided to pass 3 -right this time -perhaps 3 small trumps and too balanced nd not vulnerable make that|pg|| nt|kirp: stopped in 3@S in OR, |pg|| nt|runnerup: no he raised --ok|pg|| nt|toral5: back.was away|pg|| pc|cA|nt|rv: I don't think he can still make contract, can see only 9 tricks|pg|| pc|c5|pg|| nt|jbgood: an imaginative E might bid 3@c then:)|pg|| nt|glen: in which case dropping the beer card on the table was wrong|pg|| nt|rv: even if Keyzad plays @SA and @SQ, he has only 9 tricks to the best of my analyses|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c9|nt|kirp: N's QJ of @Cs were too good to stop in 3|pg|| nt|runnerup: so -5|pg|| nt|kirp: in OR, W overcalled, hence any finesse rated to lose|pg|| nt|pelu: when u have QJ x and no 10's or 9'2 normal the best play is to play up to the low H's|pg|| pc|h9|pc|c8|pg|| nt|benjy: @H to the 9 looked more normal to me|pg|| pc|s2|nt|eamongall: At another table McGann Brown have reached the happy position of having 3 vulnerable doubled undertricks available against 4@S ...they still have to collect them |pg|| pc|s6|nt|roswolf: hi john|pg|| nt|MolvaM: hi john|pg|| nt|danilo1: good play .. 2 Dummy entries for (if needed) repeated @H finess|pg|| nt|rv: super defense by Balicki|pg|| nt|toral5: should try @S now|pg|| pc|sA|nt|Gerben42: going plus got to be worth something|pg|| nt|Gerben42: so far +100 is almost worth everything|pg|| nt|Gerben42: if Madala is N then S is Rimstedt|pg|| nt|Gerben42: operator please correct S name?|pg|| pc|s4|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cT|nt|bridge_one: i think finesse in @C give more % at declarer|pg|| nt|toral5: low @C now means a @C blockage cos @D will be shooted|pg|| nt|toral5: @D return is good now|pg|| nt|pelu: in OR @H-lead to A and then they wait 5 min for the next card from East :) 8O. Herbst)|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|h7|nt|roswolf: the dutch duly gained 11 imps by bidding the grand|pg|| nt|kirp: so chalk this pickup due to sound overcalls|pg|| nt|toral5: after a 1@D oc,@H ace is a marked card with jassem.so only hope for declarer is @H ace stiff|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|jfaria: time to claim|pg|| pc|d9|pg|| nt|toral5: now @C are blocked|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|s3|pc|d4|pg|| nt|benjy: still making of course|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h8|pc|s5|pc|d7|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s7|nt|lechcold: overtrick now|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sQ|pg|| nt|toral5: still home though|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s9|pc|sT|pc|d8|pg|| pg|| qx|o17|st||md|3ST543HK9DKJTCQJ64,SK9HT7D86532CA752,SA2HJ852DQ94CKT93,SQJ876HAQ643DA7C8|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|nt|bagman: Looks like a flat board with the same auction as in the closed room (1@S-1NT-2@H-2@S)|pg|| mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|bagman: E has a good hand but not enough to make an invitation|pg|| nt|elbec: manno lanzarotti play reversed count and usually do not use other signals. they lead 3rd or 5th card|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|psyck: Thx...are some of them juniors?|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c8|pg|| pc|h7|nt|elbec: andrea manno is 27 years old|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|s6|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h9|pc|hT|pc|h5|pg|| pc|h3|pc|dJ|pc|s9|pc|h8|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c9|nt|psyck: ok, we will treat as juniors until 28 :)|pg|| nt|bagman: Declarer gets forced but he can cross ruff|pg|| pc|s7|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|dA|pc|dT|pc|d2|pc|d4|pg|| pc|h4|nt|elbec: he arrived 2nd at the 1st World Youth Congress in 2009 and 2nd at the 21st european youth team championships|pg|| pc|c6|pc|sK|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cT|pc|d7|pc|dK|pg|| nt|bagman: cannot score the last heart but instead gets two ruffs and 4 trumps in hand + the aces|pg|| nt|elbec: he got also some other interesting international and national results, including Italian open pair championship in 2011|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sQ|pc|s3|pc|d3|pg|| pc|h6|pc|s4|pc|d5|pc|d9|pg|| pc|s5|pc|d6|pc|sA|pc|s8|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|sJ|pc|sT|pc|d8|pg|| pg|| qx|c17|st||md|3ST543HK9DKJTCQJ64,SK9HT7D86532CA752,SA2HJ852DQ94CKT93,SQJ876HAQ643DA7C8|sv|o|nt|runnerup: took 10 -so -1 imp|pg|| nt|MolvaM: here is the link to running scores http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswleaderb.html|pg|| nt|athene: interesting 3NT call by north in the other room|pg|| nt|runnerup: look 1nt / ns|pg|| nt|granguru: 1 imp for the overtrick|pg|| nt|granguru: 4@S EW depending on the @DK winning or not.|pg|| nt|rv: Balicki made 2 key plays, duck @CQ and return low @d when in with @SK, Keyzad still had a chance to ruff a @h and exit in @DJ instead of @CA and @c ruff|pg|| nt|toral5: no.9 only|pg|| nt|royhughes: Did South return a heart -- that looks like an error|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: another double fit for both sides|pg|| nt|benjy: 8 imps away on board 15|pg|| mb|p|nt|bagman: EW are currently 4th fighting for a medal|pg|| mb|1S|nt|kirp: the polish Club|pg|| nt|toral5: part score battle coming up|pg|| nt|jfaria: 1nt upgradable if 15-17 by N|pg|| mb|p|nt|rv: Balicki was end-played when in with @dj if Keyzad had found play|pg|| mb|1N|nt|jbgood: looks like a peaceful 3 NT by N|pg|| nt|jbgood: or S for that matter|pg|| nt|MolvaM: tokay-baldursson at the open room is a very new partnership which might explain why they couldnt find the grand|pg|| nt|athene: certainly a bit of a gamble but it paid off very nicely this time|pg|| nt|runnerup: east is not tesyed because north stoles hearts|pg|| nt|granguru: weak by N1NT |pg|| nt|jbgood: hi all|pg|| nt|granguru: weak 1NT by N|pg|| nt|kirp: unlikely to get to game now|pg|| nt|glen: 2@C is likely for the majors or some other two suited convention|pg|| nt|mcarroll: Looks like OR found the way to make this, defence not as good as here, E played @CK at trick 2|pg|| nt|rv: great hand for defense and declarer play|pg|| mb|p|nt|kirp: rescue redbld|pg|| nt|granguru: may have specific types of hands|pg|| nt|hawe45: Nice 1 @D - natural?|pg|| nt|rv: yes North-South play 2/1 based methods|pg|| nt|rv: East-West play Polish @c|pg|| mb|2H|nt|danilo1: looks like routine 4@H|pg|| nt|royhughes: These competitive partscore deals can be difficult|pg|| mb|p|nt|runnerup: normal 4 @h = with no other ideas -from anyone -looks like it ,but..|pg|| nt|granguru: 2-suited continous is one|pg|| nt|granguru: 2@c asks |pg|| nt|granguru: 2@D = @d+@H|pg|| nt|jbgood: W's pass in this context is usually forcing|pg|| nt|jbgood: but not sure with angelini|pg|| nt|granguru: accepting 1NT xx eventually|pg|| nt|rv: Zmud has passed judiciously before Venkatesh started doubling|pg|| mb|2S|nt|kirp: E should dble 2@C|pg|| nt|jbgood: yes|pg|| mb|p|nt|bagman: Rimsted clearly gambling with her heart suit|pg|| nt|davpro: yes. 9 easy tricks, but not the best communications...|pg|| nt|jbgood: 1 nt - 2 @h - 2 NT - 3 NT?|pg|| nt|toral5: what would have been a dbl by martens on 2h?|pg|| nt|toral5: never penalties.right?|pg|| nt|lechcold: heart lead was devastating for declarer, but impossible to find|pg|| nt|toral5: yes|pg|| mb|p|nt|Gerben42: some would call it practical :)|pg|| nt|bridge_one: all colors taked by weak players :)|pg|| nt|bridge_one: North bid both, @D and @H|pg|| nt|jfaria: another routine game|pg|| nt|kirp: a @H lead is not good for defense|pg|| nt|kirp: N has 3 trix in the suit|pg|| nt|kirp: as now S can pass|pg|| nt|rv: I presume the first 2 deals had an effect on Keyzad to open this hand, he might have not opened normally|pg|| nt|mcarroll: Board 2 flat also -1|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: and so will reach 4@S|pg|| nt|royhughes: If it is a partscore -- NS might make more|pg|| mb|p|nt|MolvaM: misfit hand but contract seems makable|pg|| nt|roswolf: slam possible here perhaps|pg|| nt|jfaria: at least for us looking at 4 hands|pg|| nt|kirp: this will challenge N in the play|pg|| nt|granguru: took his time |pg|| nt|jbgood: but again - this prdship is not of very firm construction - so ....|pg|| nt|granguru: he "knew" S was going to say 2@d|pg|| nt|jfaria: i believe they will bid 4|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|hawe45: Poor North - he thinks, he is facing an opening bid...|pg|| nt|lechcold: now 9 tricks I think|pg|| nt|toral5: is he making?|pg|| pc|cA|nt|athene: 6@S would not be great here even with the @D9|pg|| nt|kirp: @Ds are sitting wrong or maybe right given lack of entries to N|pg|| nt|toral5: yes|pg|| nt|rv: Hi all, warm regards from sunny Bangalore|pg|| pc|c3|nt|pelu: 2@S in OR|pg|| nt|athene: the point being, on a club lead, you have to draw trumps and then cash four hearts to discard a club from the north hand|pg|| nt|runnerup: they might go down here|pg|| nt|glen: declarer knows where the @S ace, but where is the @S jack|pg|| nt|Walddk7: 2 segments of 14 boards in the R32, R16, QF and SF. 3 x 16 in the finals on Wednesday|pg|| pc|c8|pg|| nt|MolvaM: the first non-alert after 3 rounds of bidding :)|pg|| nt|jfaria: N hand looks nothing like minimum to play in @s |pg|| nt|jfaria: both rooms thought the same|pg|| nt|rcerreto: hi|pg|| nt|benjy: hi|pg|| pc|h7|nt|jbgood: N should know that the @c king counts for full - and bid 3 imo|pg|| nt|kirp: S is happy|pg|| nt|rv: Hi Rodolfo|pg|| nt|rcerreto: a trump lead could have worked better|pg|| nt|rv: Hi Ben and all specs|pg|| pc|h2|nt|davpro: They stopped low, but if @ds are not 3-3 a higher contract would be a struggle|pg|| nt|kirp: now N has a problem|pg|| nt|granguru: a terrible contract|pg|| nt|jbgood: W will not be|pg|| nt|kirp: 100 a trick|pg|| nt|kirp: i make down 3|pg|| nt|granguru: 1@s 2@h 2@D 1@c|pg|| nt|granguru: but may be only -2|pg|| nt|jbgood: E should ask himself why E didnt jump in hearts (or bid them directly) - because he had 2 suits:)|pg|| nt|kirp: not easy lead|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|danilo1: @CQ lead may create some playing options ... cashing 2 @H immediatelly may be loosing option|pg|| nt|granguru: if @c help to discard|pg|| nt|rv: I might have slightly devalued and re-opened 1n with North hand instead of double of 1@s|pg|| nt|royhughes: Yes, I think the North cards are very suitable|pg|| pc|hK|pg|| nt|granguru: now -2 as said|pg|| nt|othered1: Hi|pg|| nt|rv: Hi Ed|pg|| nt|benjy: Well that would have been more normal, but on a club force this may be as good if not better|pg|| pc|s3|nt|roswolf: although the bidding thus far is cloaked in mystery they seem to be powering into it|pg|| pc|s9|nt|Gerben42: with a bit more fortune it would have been a claimer|pg|| nt|bagman: In pairs it might not be that practical as the bonus for the game is not that big as in teams|pg|| nt|granguru: no no|pg|| nt|granguru: yes yes|pg|| nt|granguru: S ruffs @cq but loses a natural trump trick |pg|| nt|granguru: no fast entry in S hand to cross @D|pg|| nt|glen: odds are still the 1NT bidder has it, so he picks up the trump suit|pg|| nt|glen: E can win this or the next to switch to @Ds for his ruff|pg|| pc|sA|nt|bridge_one: duck this @D could be a idea|pg|| nt|hawe45: Gives the same result, if South plays safe|pg|| nt|bridge_one: but give at south the chance to fault|pg|| nt|danilo1: well done|pg|| pc|s6|pg|| nt|roswolf: 4@S MIGHT BE FINIS|pg|| nt|roswolf: and it is not sure what happened there|pg|| nt|MolvaM: at the other table, tokay asked for keycards and then asked for the trump queen apparently. why??|pg|| nt|roswolf: very true|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: well if u open the north hand 1@C a 1 NT rebid wd be a gross underbid... so open 1 nt|pg|| nt|royhughes: The lie of the cards is very friendly to declarer|pg|| nt|rv: Texan Aces have caused a sensation beating one of the big favorites Monaco Zimmerman in R32|pg|| nt|rcerreto: a force play would allow for 2 ruffs in dummy and 4 trumps in the closed hand|pg|| pc|s2|nt|hawe45: Absolutely|pg|| nt|MolvaM: on the previous board|pg|| nt|athene: actually i guess it would be ok (provided the hearts come in)|pg|| pc|s7|nt|jbgood: 27 teams from A and 5 from B go to the KO stage - with no carry over|pg|| nt|jbgood: running scores: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswleaderb.html|pg|| nt|jbgood: Boye is used to playing tough contracts - but most often there is a glimmer of hope to win:) not so here|pg|| pc|s4|nt|pelu: the @D-lead gave S a fine tempo|pg|| pc|sK|pg|| nt|kirp: that looks like 6 trix for declarer|pg|| nt|granguru: 19 teams are playing for Poland|pg|| nt|rcerreto: adding 3 aces...|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h5|pc|h3|nt|MolvaM: west was somewhat stuck for a good lead|pg|| nt|pelu: 110 = 9 IMP for Monaco|pg|| nt|runnerup: trying to help parner well done -now surely down|pg|| nt|jfaria: maybe leading the singleton with 4 trumps not hte best choice|pg|| pc|h9|pg|| nt|jfaria: claim is near|pg|| nt|rcerreto: oh well|pg|| nt|rv: incidentally Texan Aces have won bronze and silver medals in last couple of editions of this event, their love affair with this event seems to be enduring|pg|| nt|rcerreto: nice guess by Pattacini|pg|| nt|benjy: if he had covered then the 5@H would have come into the game|pg|| pc|d2|nt|toral5: on a trump lead may be he was down 2|pg|| pc|d4|nt|glen: sorry, her ruff|pg|| pc|dA|pc|dT|pg|| nt|kirp: so it is down 3|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s5|pc|d3|nt|benjy: Now making in comfort|pg|| pc|c9|pg|| pc|sJ|nt|jbgood: the point is that you create swings when you dont bid games on 26 combined |pg|| pc|sT|pc|d5|nt|rv: now @S shift and I can see 3 more tricks for defense|pg|| nt|rcerreto: their names makes me thinking of your country fellows Venky|pg|| pc|d9|pg|| nt|davpro: To be fair against N. 2N from S was perhaps a bit low (aswell)|pg|| nt|kirp: another 5 imps for EW|pg|| pc|hA|pc|c4|nt|jbgood: I am sure this wil be a game swing for Angelini|pg|| pc|d6|pc|h8|pg|| mc|8|nt|granguru: better would have been to duck second @h into N hand|pg|| nt|rcerreto: rather than 'texans'|pg|| pg|| qx|o18|st||md|4S862HK73D63CAKJ42,SJ74HADJ98752CT97,SKT953HQ642DKCQ86,SAQHJT985DAQT4C53|sv|n|nt|elbec: interesting board coming|pg|| mb|1H|mb|p|nt|bagman: EW can make 5@D with the lucky layout|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|nt|bagman: and they are on their way to find that suit, at least|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|psyck: well, at least they did better than other room :)|pg|| pc|cA|nt|cumino: Very timid W pass. |pg|| nt|elbec: really strange pass by W in CR after East 1@h opening|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c8|pc|c5|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c9|pc|c6|pc|c3|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|s9|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|s7|pc|s3|pg|| nt|psyck: @c8 1st trick was rev count as Alberto explained earlier|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h3|pc|hA|nt|bagman: There's not much in the play; declarer plays a trump from dummy and then claims|pg|| pc|h2|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|d4|pc|s8|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h7|pc|d2|pc|h4|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d6|pc|d5|pc|s5|pg|| mc|10|nt|buddyshah: Now the match will square up: Duece |pg|| pg|| qx|c18|st||md|4S862HK73D63CAKJ42,SJ74HADJ98752CT97,SKT953HQ642DKCQ86,SAQHJT985DAQT4C53|sv|n|nt|bagman: with both spades and diamonds open 3NT requires some luck|pg|| nt|davpro: So, with less and 3-4-1-5 distibution he would always pass?|pg|| nt|jbgood: yes|pg|| nt|MolvaM: zmud has 5-5 reds again|pg|| nt|MolvaM: anyway...|pg|| nt|MolvaM: another lively hand|pg|| nt|roswolf: another freakish deal|pg|| nt|athene: west isn't quite worth 2@H i think in their style|pg|| nt|kirp: that was down 1, wasnt it|pg|| nt|kirp: it went down 2, so S led a @D back and squeezed pard|pg|| nt|royhughes: Re opening lead: hard to say, but I don't think a heart works any better on this deal|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: any red suit lead wd have given declarer problems|pg|| mb|1H|nt|roswolf: hi all|pg|| nt|pelu: 5@h is max|pg|| nt|jfaria: slam zone|pg|| nt|kirp: VG, need to fix score on 23|pg|| nt|runnerup: yes -i think so too --this 3nt must be played by east or 5 loosers can come up|pg|| nt|jfaria: but nothing can stop making|pg|| mb|p|nt|granguru: 7@S in the OR|pg|| mb|p|nt|bridge_one: same defence in other room |pg|| nt|athene: their 2-level openers are 10-13 and only really, really huge 9-counts qualify|pg|| nt|roswolf: indeed not now here come the fireworks|pg|| nt|athene: in third seat, of course, things are relaxed a bit... :)|pg|| nt|roswolf: :)|pg|| nt|kirp: Is E's dble penalties?|pg|| nt|kirp: 7@S or 6@Ds|pg|| nt|toral5: where do we see the live scores?|pg|| nt|benjy: Interesting auction|pg|| mb|1N|nt|athene: north will lebensohl his way to 3@H i guess|pg|| nt|roswolf: can west rdbl for blood here?|pg|| nt|rv: after 3 tricky hands, easy 4@s deal to calm nerves|pg|| mb|p|nt|bridge_one: 2@H is limited at 9 hcp 3 cards raise|pg|| nt|roswolf: indeed|pg|| nt|MolvaM: 3rd slam hand in a row?|pg|| nt|jfaria: better in @d|pg|| nt|danilo1: if ev. 6@S ... @C lead or @H and @C switch may be vital|pg|| nt|danilo1: *is vital for defense|pg|| nt|danilo1: ... rite contract (unbeatable) is not 6@S ... but 6@D ... guess difficult to come there |pg|| nt|runnerup: so double for takeout -problems in bidding by west perhaps|pg|| nt|jbgood: sure well bid to get to the grand|pg|| nt|hawe45: And good for time schedule also|pg|| nt|rv: @d strain plays a lot better for E-W|pg|| nt|benjy: is this auction really correct?|pg|| nt|benjy: surely west bid 1NT?|pg|| nt|rv: E-W cold for 5@d with both pointed kings well placed|pg|| mb|2H!|nt|runnerup: you have to guess well to make 4 @h -but that is bedt|pg|| nt|hawe45: A poor 4 @H - but you might be forced to "guess" right|pg|| nt|bridge_one: East is evaluating what bid|pg|| nt|runnerup: this @d lead asked may help to get rid off spade looser|pg|| nt|jbgood: choice between dbl and 1 NT...|pg|| nt|jbgood: pass never an option for Boye on a near opener|pg|| nt|roswolf: lebensohl is heading n/s into danger here|pg|| nt|athene: well, whether he can or not, he didn't|pg|| nt|lechcold: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/or32runda1.html|pg|| nt|pelu: running score : http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/or32runda1.html but no scores yet from 2. segment|pg|| nt|toral5: no slam makes here|pg|| nt|toral5: with a combined strength of 33|pg|| nt|pelu: 32 :)|pg|| nt|toral5: ouch.@S jack hiding for me:(|pg|| nt|toral5: what is 2nt opening for ew?|pg|| nt|pelu: 2 very flat hands, so no good play for 6NT (6@c)|pg|| nt|jfaria: normal @d lead|pg|| nt|jfaria: and N has litle options to win|pg|| mb|d|nt|roswolf: east will leap high|pg|| nt|MolvaM: leader board and running scores http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswleaderb.html|pg|| nt|roswolf: but is it high enough|pg|| nt|athene: sometimes if you redouble in these auctions you help opps because they now have more room to scramble for the best fit|pg|| nt|toral5: seems they play 2nt opening=minors weak|pg|| nt|pelu: polish @c here|pg|| nt|royhughes: Difficult hand -- it may be interesting to see if declarer can get to dummy with the spade 10|pg|| nt|rcerreto: W's pass on E's 1@h seems to confirm they're playing some sort of big club system|pg|| nt|benjy: but then north reopened with 1NT?|pg|| mb|2S|nt|jbgood: but defense may start with 3 spades and 5 hearts|pg|| nt|roswolf: this is where south needs discipline|pg|| nt|kirp: EW play a strong @C, so this shows points|pg|| nt|rv: I suspect North bid 1@s and not 1n|pg|| mb|p|nt|jbgood: not any more|pg|| nt|davpro: 8 quick tricks for defense here on a spade lead. 7 for declarer on that lead|pg|| nt|jbgood: 7 th in the bag|pg|| nt|athene: also you warn them with borderline hands to stay low|pg|| nt|roswolf: 3@S WHATEVER IT MEANS SEEM OVER THE TOP - WEST SHAPENS HIS AXE|pg|| nt|athene: so here for example if west had redoubled, south might well have decided his partner didn't have what was needed|pg|| nt|roswolf: sharpens|pg|| nt|jfaria: 4@c must be @d |pg|| nt|benjy: i think so too|pg|| mb|p|nt|MolvaM: lets see if they can locate the missing @d control|pg|| nt|roswolf: they should do|pg|| nt|roswolf: the flexible double|pg|| nt|roswolf: ouch is comming|pg|| nt|toral5: did he really bid 3nt with 21?|pg|| nt|lechcold: I believe Martens-Jassem play strong club when NV|pg|| nt|pelu: well done by Martens - Jassem hasa absolut max for a passed hand|pg|| nt|benjy: else 2@H makes no sense|pg|| nt|rv: South's 2@h would be good raise in @s|pg|| nt|rcerreto: N's 1NT would be weird|pg|| mb|p|nt|bagman: Declarer needs to ruff the heart losers and discard a club on a diamond|pg|| nt|hawe45: UNDO|pg|| nt|MolvaM: spade honors not so attractive for madala|pg|| nt|roswolf: this may well be passed|pg|| nt|roswolf: south has nothing to cue and has soft club values|pg|| nt|rcerreto: which he has|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|kirp: I think pass followed ny pass or 3N would have been better bid by E|pg|| nt|rv: this could be one of the worst possible draw for Texan Aces, they started tourney very well and topped their group consisting of Bessis, Payne and qualified for Swiss A with 3 VPs ...|pg|| nt|rv: c/o|pg|| nt|royhughes: He has finesses in hearts and clubs|pg|| nt|rcerreto: -1 ?|pg|| pc|h3|nt|roswolf: they dont have a lot of hcp to spare|pg|| nt|pelu: in OR NS in 6@H - looks like S gave a false cue bid in @D - but it was an artifical bidding over 6 round|pg|| nt|MolvaM: wow thats enterprising|pg|| nt|roswolf: i think the italians are merciful|pg|| nt|kirp: not well bid here|pg|| nt|kirp: thought this was a strong club auction|pg|| nt|jbgood: most pairs have bid to 7 - but a few rested in six, and even fewer in game|pg|| nt|glen: this lead will not trouble declarer too much|pg|| pc|hA|nt|MolvaM: in another table north could go with J2N and that might be a problem|pg|| nt|danilo1: exactelly ... if Alfredo decides to try more than 4@S ... he will not bid Diamonds :)|pg|| nt|danilo1: I believe 4@C was just cue|pg|| nt|jfaria: 456 kibs tell me 4@c is just a cue |pg|| nt|jfaria: being a cue, no way to reach @d :(|pg|| nt|Walddk1: Not likely as we only have 285 here|pg|| pc|h2|pg|| nt|roswolf: i am told they are in slam in the other room|pg|| nt|roswolf: well he still likes his hand|pg|| nt|jfaria: just a figure of speach :)|pg|| nt|danilo1: NS have done very well to enter bidding ... if South pass, EW would have time to find @D |pg|| nt|benjy: yes|pg|| nt|panja: hi all|pg|| nt|rcerreto: hi|pg|| nt|benjy: hi|pg|| pc|d7|nt|MolvaM: well even if diamonds are not led. no way to get rid of the 2 losers|pg|| nt|roswolf: and that is enough for norberto:)|pg|| nt|MolvaM: does 4s have any specific meaning?|pg|| nt|MolvaM: or just an old fashioned cue?|pg|| nt|rv: they lost a bit of steam in Swiss A with lacklustre performance and could finish only 21st with 107 VPs after 7 rounds, that performance has contributed tough draw here|pg|| pc|dK|nt|runnerup: no fight now just posible over tricks |pg|| nt|roswolf: yes i want to bid on and i have a spade control|pg|| nt|roswolf: the latter|pg|| nt|roswolf: this seems an easy-ish make|pg|| nt|rv: Venkatesh can afford to go 1 down since E-W can upto 150 in @d partial|pg|| pc|dA|nt|bagman: The @DA must be with E: if W has it, then E has the clubs|pg|| nt|hawe45: But how can you play bridge - NOT leading partners suit with Ace-x???|pg|| nt|hawe45: You MUST have seen too many bad overcalls|pg|| nt|bridge_one: 2@H now|pg|| nt|MolvaM: try both finesses and hope that the @d10 takes care of itself|pg|| nt|roswolf: the pass of 4@S said dont lead one i am told:) so he follows his own suggestion:)|pg|| nt|Walddk1: Good morning to Glen Ashton|pg|| nt|glen: hi|pg|| nt|jfaria: hard to tell probably Lauria would treat is hand as single suited..|pg|| nt|toral5: lol|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: may be able to get @S entry for a rounded suit fin|pg|| pc|d3|pg|| nt|pelu: very controles bidding here|pg|| nt|roswolf: safe enough here|pg|| nt|athene: declarer's concern on a diamond shift is whether to finesse the @C9|pg|| nt|roswolf: now off|pg|| pc|h9|nt|athene: but i don't think he will|pg|| nt|benjy: tough for east to bid again when partner passed 1@H|pg|| pc|h7|pc|s4|nt|hawe45: Happy Christmas now|pg|| nt|bridge_one: push hand|pg|| nt|runnerup: looks srange but no spade losers went away |pg|| nt|runnerup: perhaps has been a better idea to pass and wait for partners d --but ofcause partner can pass too -but if y double partner never bids nt -because you have all spades|pg|| nt|jfaria: he may get to dummy yes|pg|| nt|royhughes: This is a tough choice for declarer -- he does not want to lose a heart finesse here|pg|| nt|jfaria: now he has 2 hooks available|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: but only chance to keep|pg|| nt|royhughes: If he wins the jack and plays a low spade, it looks like he can make it|pg|| pc|h4|pg|| nt|glen: now careful not to use the @S Queen too early|pg|| nt|glen: 3@S + 2@H + 2@C + 2@D = making|pg|| nt|rv: in the last couple of editions of this event where they won silver and bronze resp, they did have favorable draws atleast in the initial k/o matches|pg|| pc|d2|nt|jbgood: as suggested Angeline bid and made 3 NT on the previous one|pg|| pc|s3|nt|MolvaM: I wont lead one :)|pg|| nt|athene: he might be considering whether to try to make the contract by playing east for the @HK|pg|| nt|roswolf: yes but east's double is a warning|pg|| nt|danilo1: as I said before ... on Bd 12 - 4@H in 4-3 fit has been very tempting ... happened in OR - and 12 IMP for Allfrey|pg|| nt|rv: namaste good afternoon Panjaji (assuming you are in UK)|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d6|pg|| nt|fabsayc: hi Glen|pg|| nt|glen: hi Martin|pg|| nt|fabsayc: spade best for defense now|pg|| nt|rcerreto: had W bid 1NT...|pg|| nt|benjy: I never know when one is supposed to pass 1NT with shape and some values|pg|| nt|rcerreto: like it will happen in OR if they play natural|pg|| nt|benjy: when playing a strong @C system|pg|| pc|c8|nt|rv: good defense to save an IMP|pg|| pc|c3|nt|jbgood: strange that N didnt try a big spade first...|pg|| nt|roswolf: draw trumps and take the diamonf hook|pg|| nt|MolvaM: can pull trumps and discard diamonds on clubs to ruff out the king|pg|| nt|MolvaM: which also works|pg|| pc|cA|nt|jfaria: there he goes, "litle option" came alive |pg|| pc|c9|pg|| nt|glen: it takes a long time for "spade best" to go from Canada to Poland|pg|| nt|mcarroll: Yes this is a very tough draw for them|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s7|nt|benjy: we may find that south bids over 1@H|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sQ|pg|| nt|bagman: Declarer wondering if he can throw E in for a club trick|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: tough def for west... best wd have been to return @S... passive|pg|| pc|hT|nt|davpro: y|pg|| nt|glen: declarer heading for home with 9 tricks|pg|| pc|hK|pc|sJ|pc|h6|pg|| pc|c7|nt|roswolf: the americans in the other room got caught in 4@HX|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c5|nt|sunsamvar: wd|pg|| pc|cJ|pg|| mc|7|nt|roswolf: yup|pg|| nt|rcerreto: possible but unlikey, IMHO|pg|| pg|| qx|o19|st||md|1SJ3HT832DJ762CQ42,S98HAK7654DKQCKT7,S7654HJDA4CAJ9863,SAKQT2HQ9DT9853C5|sv|e|nt|bagman: I think declarer lost only 2 club tricks; should be 150 for EW|pg|| nt|buddyshah: yes should be 150|pg|| mb|p|mb|1H|mb|2C|nt|elbec: another interesting board with the match so tight|pg|| nt|psyck: Advantage Texan :)|pg|| mb|2S|nt|bagman: That one IMP can be really big in the end|pg|| mb|3C|mb|3H|nt|buddyshah: Running scores shows making 5, 41-40 Teexan Aces|pg|| mb|4C|mb|4H|nt|buddyshah: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/or16runda1.html|pg|| nt|elbec: how do you make 4@h with @s lead and @s again after?|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|psyck: Operator , please adjust board 18 to 2DE+3|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: well 4@His not lay down|pg|| pc|cA|nt|sunsamvar: not so easy|pg|| pc|c5|nt|buddyshah: Now it is |pg|| nt|elbec: after ace of club it is|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c7|pg|| nt|buddyshah: Well, now it is |pg|| nt|buddyshah: hi sunil|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dT|pc|d6|pc|dK|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|h2|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hT|pc|hK|pc|s4|pg|| pc|hA|pc|s5|pc|d5|pc|h3|pg|| nt|bagman: W must play 4 rounds of hearts to secure scoring 3 spade tricks|pg|| pc|h5|mc|10|pg|| qx|c19|st||md|1SJ3HT832DJ762CQ42,S98HAK7654DKQCKT7,S7654HJDA4CAJ9863,SAKQT2HQ9DT9853C5|sv|e|nt|Gerben42: after 1@C the E hand is too big for 4@H I guess|pg|| nt|bagman: NS can make a minor suit slam|pg|| nt|bagman: Maybe EW have some Namyats type of device over 1m openings|pg|| nt|Gerben42: 3N-2 was only worth 20%|pg|| nt|Gerben42: last round not finished yet?|pg|| nt|bagman: If N can show real clubs, S hand becomes very valuable with the source of tricks, heart control and trump support|pg|| nt|Gerben42: if it starts 1@C 4@H, what does S bid?|pg|| nt|Gerben42: 4NT perhaps|pg|| nt|bagman: but E has a hand where she can prevent NS from changing that information. After 1@C, E can bid 4@H and then?|pg|| nt|Gerben42: esp. tough if 1@C can be short (3 or even 2 cards)|pg|| nt|bagman: if 4NT shows primary diamonds and secondary clubs then it's the bid|pg|| nt|Gerben42: the problem with such a bid is - what will pd think it is|pg|| nt|bagman: I wouldn't be surprised if there are some other agreements for the meaning of 4NT|pg|| nt|bagman: or no agreements :)|pg|| nt|Gerben42: this is an area where regular partnerships are ahead of the game|pg|| nt|bagman: 6@HX is 500; it's better than the vulnerable game for EW so they might take the sac|pg|| nt|runnerup: 11 in both tables and we though how to make 10|pg|| nt|MolvaM: specs tell me slam makable if no @d lead|pg|| nt|MolvaM: well if you can duck a diamond and then squeeze somebody afterwards :) maybe|pg|| nt|MolvaM: not sure if this play was superior|pg|| nt|roswolf: yes|pg|| nt|roswolf: for running scores http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswleaderb.html|pg|| nt|athene: south could make 6 of a red suit here if only he could get to dummy twice (lead the @H7 picks the suit up)|pg|| nt|roswolf: there will be some fun and games here|pg|| nt|athene: sorry - of course he can do it|pg|| nt|athene: lead to @SA, and lead the small heart|pg|| nt|athene: then later get to dummy with a heart and lead a diamond to the queen|pg|| nt|athene: easy!|pg|| nt|roswolf: hmm perhaps not at the table -in the bidding|pg|| nt|athene: only needs east to have @HHx and @DKx|pg|| nt|roswolf: game not reached at the other table|pg|| nt|athene: hampson-greco playing precision so 1@D is nebulous|pg|| nt|athene: south can be very aggressive if he knows his partner actually has some diamonds|pg|| nt|athene: but not when it might just be two small|pg|| nt|roswolf: indeed these kind of hands are horrible for strong club systems|pg|| nt|roswolf: or less bill|pg|| nt|athene: well it's at least a doubleton for them i think; they use 2@D for the short diamond hands|pg|| nt|vugraphplc: Nunes call director|pg|| nt|roswolf: short of bds!?or something wrong with the last hand?|pg|| nt|vugraphplc: becouse 2nt invit or forsing |pg|| nt|athene: hmmm - they are not happy about something from the previous board, i guess|pg|| nt|athene: ah - you mean nunes was told that 2NT was showing a good hand and that is why he didn't double?|pg|| nt|danilo1: this is anothe swing possibility|pg|| nt|danilo1: meant 6@D (@S)|pg|| nt|kirp: score is really 25-10|pg|| nt|granguru: a very expensive hand|pg|| nt|granguru: which will most probably decide the winner of the match |pg|| nt|fabsayc: our postal system on rotating strikes|pg|| nt|glen: next door the other room tried the 5-2 @S fit, and ran into the 5-1 trump split|pg|| nt|mcarroll: Weak 2 from N?|pg|| nt|hawe45: I hope not...!|pg|| nt|royhughes: and 6 imps toNS|pg|| nt|rv: I suspect South won't bid 2@c over 1@h esp at these colors, I am fairly certain West wll bid 1n in OR|pg|| mb|p|nt|Gerben42: something to be said for 5@H overcall too|pg|| nt|bridge_one: in 4@H in other match one made one down|pg|| nt|hawe45: 5 @D N/S should end the auction|pg|| nt|roswolf: wont make much difference anyway|pg|| nt|runnerup: ns has a good score open room ew has some 2h to make|pg|| nt|rv: they need to strike in the first segment when Zimmerman is playing, no disrespect, but Helgemo-Helness is mch tougher proposition in second segment |pg|| mb|1H|nt|MolvaM: if trumps were 3-1 he would have to fall back on the @d hook|pg|| nt|granguru: 1 NT 13-15|pg|| nt|glen: that was 10 imps, bring this "elimination" match to a near tie|pg|| nt|jfaria: partscore here|pg|| mb|2C|nt|bagman: against a strong 1@C 5@H would be fine|pg|| nt|runnerup: 3nt also,but ew can bid more|pg|| nt|hawe45: We have seen such hand make 2 @H - and 6 @C...|pg|| mb|2S|nt|roswolf: 4@S here is the likely spot|pg|| nt|roswolf: a heart partial would be sensible|pg|| nt|toral5: very thin 1@S oc|pg|| nt|toral5: but very common these days.5332 is often ignored:)|pg|| nt|pelu: 1@S very normal - would u pass? :)|pg|| nt|toral5: yes.i pass:)|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: being non vul... dont think EW will push|pg|| mb|p|nt|bridge_one: 5@D can be beated with @S lead|pg|| nt|runnerup: no just loose that|pg|| mb|3H|nt|runnerup: small from table |pg|| nt|jbgood: some lucky day you make 6 @s on this lot - but not today|pg|| nt|athene: 1nt now? :) - he does have seven stoppers in the unbid suit|pg|| nt|roswolf: the diamond suit now consigned to the dustbin|pg|| nt|athene: i bet a lot of partnerships don't know what a jump in 4th suit means|pg|| nt|athene: i.e. 3@D here - is that natural forcing, natural non-forcing, or what?|pg|| nt|roswolf: what is wrong with a natural 1@D RESPONSE?|pg|| nt|glen: peaceful 4@h here|pg|| nt|danilo1: NS need to stop on time (5@H still on time) ... ev. 4@S or 5@D by EW will be too expensive|pg|| nt|jfaria: 3@d ends any slam mess in N/S intentions|pg|| nt|rv: I might have opened 3@h with North hand, here Venkatesh had bid 3@h as fit jump showing @hs+@cs|pg|| nt|mcarroll: yes shows the benefit of Muiderberg stle 2 suiter openings|pg|| nt|mcarroll: style|pg|| nt|jfaria: best to play in @d|pg|| mb|p|nt|kirp: should make this for push|pg|| nt|runnerup: true ew can not tough clubs so looser gous so @s later|pg|| nt|rv: I don't like to pass with such shapely hands with most of values in my longest suit, 3@h opening for me even at these colors |pg|| mb|4H|nt|roswolf: south is sensible|pg|| nt|MolvaM: west also :)|pg|| nt|MolvaM: would have been interesting to watch 3@dX|pg|| nt|athene: no-one ever bids a strong 7-card minor if they have a major of any description|pg|| nt|pelu: I am know as a solid overcaller - and I would bid 1@S 100 out of 100 - take the 1. level from opp nd suit ok|pg|| mb|p|nt|bridge_one: after pass at 5@C @S lead became possible|pg|| nt|hawe45: Lightner...|pg|| nt|bridge_one: @S ruff, K @C - declarer lose the ruff, one @C and A@H|pg|| nt|roswolf: yup he had the colors to help him|pg|| nt|athene: i think officially in SAYC a jump in 4th suit is defined as natural and invitational|pg|| nt|glen: ok, a quiet 5@H|pg|| nt|mcarroll: 3@H must be a fit jump|pg|| nt|jfaria: nt looks hugly with @h lead|pg|| mb|p|nt|runnerup: ok wrong hand|pg|| nt|hawe45: No right hand|pg|| nt|bridge_one: many pair use pass at 5@C like OK to lead @C, instead DBL means to lead in another suit|pg|| nt|bridge_one: but i don't know the gadget played by E/W|pg|| nt|jbgood: investigating for a club contract (slam?) and got no reaction of a positive kind |pg|| nt|jfaria: now 7 tricks |pg|| mb|p|nt|runnerup: so it was all academical|pg|| nt|glen: 1@H likely a transfer to @S, 1NT may have denied 3+@Ss|pg|| nt|fabsayc: if you are going to play transfer advances, i think you have to open west hand with 1@D (polish+walsh style)|pg|| nt|toral5: i am an old book student of sound over calls|pg|| nt|benjy: I'm not implying that one should, i wouldn't, but you never know|pg|| pc|cA|nt|bagman: Malinowski has very little defense and can hope that they go down only 3|pg|| nt|athene: but it's one of those dark corners that no-one knows about|pg|| nt|roswolf: 1-5-7-0 will not be an obvious shape to the defenders|pg|| nt|fabsayc: is close however since singleton spade is an honour|pg|| nt|hawe45: Then just face the facts - open 1 @H in North|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: how to lead @H|pg|| nt|jfaria: for ntrumpers|pg|| nt|rcerreto: tough lead problem|pg|| nt|rcerreto: not solved at best|pg|| pc|c5|nt|athene: @SK to the ace, diamond finesse i guess|pg|| nt|danilo1: guess will not miss the jead after bidding :)|pg|| nt|kirp: this should make 5, for no swing|pg|| pc|c4|nt|bridge_one: now np|pg|| nt|MolvaM: trump lead effective stop a club ruff|pg|| nt|athene: fantoni might stick the @DK in|pg|| nt|roswolf: but north made a normal if aggressive raise to the vul game|pg|| nt|danilo1: *lead|pg|| pc|c7|pg|| nt|pelu: kibs - if u know EW-bidding then help us :)|pg|| nt|glen: the Qx of @C here is a help to 3NT|pg|| nt|fabsayc: the spade lead from north is strange however|pg|| pc|dA|nt|bagman: Good time to take the save; in pairs taking an 800 save against a making slam is not a way to win; normally you should take your chances and try to beat the slam|pg|| nt|jbgood: @d cue was what S did NOT want to get|pg|| nt|granguru: last hand N knowing p had 4@s cards misvalued his hand|pg|| nt|hawe45: Now you were unable to tll partner, that you had such a suit|pg|| nt|rv: good start by Zmud here, best to force dummy in @s|pg|| pc|d3|nt|davpro: But from Ns view; doesn't it seem as if S hasn't got a @h cue?|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|d4|nt|athene: now declarer is worried the @DQ might get ruffed, so he would like to lead a diamond from dummy|pg|| nt|athene: but entries are a bit on the short side|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d6|nt|jbgood: N looks to take no notice...|pg|| nt|jbgood: S bid well - N somewhat undiciplined - slam is more like a Roland one (which in the old days would be called a Norwegian slam)|pg|| nt|kirp: q@C next?|pg|| nt|kirp: knows S has another @S, so needs to take out entry|pg|| pc|dK|pg|| nt|davpro: This could take a while, but will end with 1 down...|pg|| nt|jbgood: If N has the @c Q in stead of the @d Q his hand would be better though|pg|| nt|benjy: a @S lead would have been interesting|pg|| pc|h4|nt|bagman: (unless the slam is such that everybody bids and makes it)|pg|| nt|pelu: also here, but if u pass this N's hand u sh find another game :):)|pg|| nt|toral5: agree pelu.thats y i m learning chess|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|athene: when you have a hand like south's, your worst nightmare is getting forced, losing trump control|pg|| nt|glen: spec notes this board played in 6@D by Lavazza, and is also 6@D by Kamras|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h2|pg|| nt|rcerreto: even A@d could have worked maybe|pg|| nt|rcerreto: definitely not the @cA|pg|| pc|h9|nt|MolvaM: 2 slams equalized the score|pg|| nt|hawe45: But 4 "H seems to be NO winner, @S Ace and a small @S|pg|| nt|lechcold: 1@S very normal, 10HCP, quite good intermediates in Spades|pg|| nt|toral5: may be @S shift by north wd have beaten this|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hA|nt|roswolf: this is on track|pg|| nt|granguru: expected some losed points in @C..|pg|| pc|c3|pg|| pc|hK|nt|glen: Kamras made 6@D, thanks to Qx of @Cs, how about Lavazza?|pg|| nt|hawe45: 4 @H|pg|| pc|c6|pc|d8|nt|jbgood: another swing for Angelini i reckon|pg|| nt|athene: if things go badly wrong you can end up an embarrassingly large number down|pg|| pc|h3|pg|| mc|10|nt|granguru: lost..sorry|pg|| nt|benjy: but it could have been right, if d was short|pg|| nt|rv: possibly best lead was @HJ though it wasn't easy to lead it at the table|pg|| pg|| qx|o20|st||md|2S4HQDT63CKQ987542,S862HKJ843DJ872CJ,SAKJT5HT72DAK9CA3,SQ973HA965DQ54CT6|sv|b|nt|psyck: A chance for the Italians here|pg|| nt|elbec: this could be a decisive board|pg|| nt|bagman: If he left the master trump at larget, S might ruff the 2nd spade killing the spade suit and leaving W with a club loser|pg|| nt|psyck: Marek: please adjust board 18 to 2DE+3 when you can.|pg|| nt|elbec: a cold 6@c for NS, let's see the bidding|pg|| mb|p|nt|bagman: 6@C is easy to play but not so easy to bid|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|nt|bagman: S might show this hand as FG in clubs|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C|nt|elbec: 2@c is gazzilli|pg|| mb|p|nt|elbec: it shows different kind of hands|pg|| mb|3C|mb|p|nt|elbec: now 2@d shows 8+ HCPs and 3@c shows less than 8 HCPS with clubs|pg|| nt|bagman: S hand holds less than 8 hcp but it's definitely worth more than 7-|pg|| nt|cumino: may be 3@D now|pg|| nt|elbec: lanzarotti could even pass on it ....|pg|| nt|elbec: gazzilli is 11-16 5@s 4@c 15-17 5332 or any 17+ 5+@s|pg|| nt|bagman: 3@C preempting the auction a bit|pg|| nt|psyck: indeed, quite a view to make a non forcing 3@c bid|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|nt|bagman: This probably shows Ax or better in clubs|pg|| nt|cumino: May be manno could bid 2@C 4@C with those cards|pg|| nt|bagman: otherwise NT might have no play|pg|| nt|psyck: 3N just showing the higher point range maybe|pg|| nt|bagman: N might have a hand with running spades and 9 tricks and treat S clubs just as a stopper|pg|| mb|5C|nt|sunsamvar: now 5@C by S|pg|| nt|elbec: difficult spot for manno|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|cumino: Yes that is the risk, but on 3NT difficult you pass |pg|| pc|c6|nt|cumino: So i preferred 4@C |pg|| nt|cumino: directly|pg|| nt|psyck: yes 4@c in 2@c looks better|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pg|| nt|bagman: Declarer planning how to make 2 overtricks|pg|| nt|psyck: *on|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cT|pc|cK|pc|h3|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s8|pc|sA|pc|s3|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s7|pc|hQ|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s9|nt|buddyshah: operator pls do correct the Score on board 18 for better match [erspective , ty . |pg|| pc|c4|pc|s6|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|dK|pc|d4|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sQ|pc|c5|pc|h4|pg|| pc|d6|nt|bagman: Declarer might have run the clubs but two and then ruffed out the spades|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dA|pc|d5|pg|| nt|elbec: 1 IMP for Patanè|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|h5|pc|dT|pc|h8|pg|| mc|13|nt|buddyshah: 1 back to Patane 41 all|pg|| pg|| qx|c20|st||md|2S4HQDT63CKQ987542,S862HKJ843DJ872CJ,SAKJT5HT72DAK9CA3,SQ973HA965DQ54CT6|sv|b|nt|bagman: If declarer planned to steal a the spade, she should have tried it before drawing trumps; the early play should have been either the steal attempt or claim -3 :)|pg|| nt|bridge_one: in other room the auction was different, so the lead was @C|pg|| nt|jbgood: nice major fits around the table|pg|| nt|jbgood: I may just have to stand corrected - i am told that Angelini in the OR also bid to 6 @s|pg|| nt|davpro: There will be (high) bidding :)|pg|| nt|MolvaM: leader board and running scores http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswleaderb.html|pg|| nt|granguru: 2@c is normally in Pre a trump ask|pg|| nt|granguru: 2@D showed min 4 cards..|pg|| nt|rv: another big swing for Monaco Z here, Texan Aces have to stem the rot quickly|pg|| nt|hawe45: Here carefull defense against 4 @H is needed - do´nt touch the @D-suit|pg|| nt|rcerreto: I'm not blaming the A@c lead|pg|| nt|rcerreto: just saying it didn't work|pg|| mb|p|nt|roswolf: 4@S seems to be good here|pg|| nt|runnerup: a little under 1/2 game in @h so will be bidden vulnerable |pg|| nt|Walddk1: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswrunda5.html running now|pg|| nt|granguru: 8-10 usually |pg|| nt|rv: I think in last deal, Texas could have bit 4@h on the way to 5@c|pg|| nt|rv: good @c slam for N-S, will they get there?|pg|| nt|benjy: if north opens 2NT perhaps?|pg|| nt|rcerreto: 8 or 9 card suits are getting common|pg|| mb|1S|nt|roswolf: this could be colorful|pg|| nt|kirp: 4@Hs went down in OR, looks close to making|pg|| nt|royhughes: I'm back after losing connection|pg|| nt|jfaria: another boring nt ps i guess|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: wlc back Roy|pg|| mb|p|nt|MolvaM: 2d alerted?|pg|| nt|roswolf: yeah @D:)|pg|| nt|MolvaM: ok means no 4 card spades|pg|| nt|rv: no harm in telling Keyzad that he had good 6 bagger|pg|| nt|toral5: !G game is safe from souths hand|pg|| nt|toral5: @H|pg|| nt|pelu: do u know NT-range by NS? |pg|| nt|toral5: kib says 15-16|pg|| nt|rv: North may well upgrade and open, some may prefer 1@s with control rich hand|pg|| mb|1N|nt|bridge_one: 3@H for N/S and 3@S for E/W here|pg|| nt|runnerup: may end for double partscore swing|pg|| nt|MolvaM: thanks kibs|pg|| nt|roswolf: yes they use 1NT to show 4 spades +a longer minor|pg|| nt|MolvaM: Im told zmud-bal play the raptor convention |pg|| nt|roswolf: west has an automatic 4@S|pg|| nt|MolvaM: maybe invented by a mr raptor? :)|pg|| nt|pelu: par-contract is 6@d - 5@s and 5@d making|pg|| nt|MolvaM: west thinks abt how many spades to bid?|pg|| nt|pelu: red against green 4@S is fine|pg|| nt|roswolf: n/s comphrensively outbid the americans on the last one|pg|| nt|runnerup: yes better actually -was down anyway |pg|| nt|kirp: this is all str @C, negative 1@D |pg|| nt|benjy: tough to diagnose the lack of @H wastage though|pg|| nt|othered1: south's response will be the key to getting to or missing slam|pg|| mb|p|nt|bridge_one: 2@H open probably 10/12 constructive (and 2@D multi)|pg|| nt|davpro: When preempting with 3 in a minor you normally do not have a 4 card major. Nothing said about 5 card suits :)|pg|| nt|roswolf: even on 3 rounds of trumps|pg|| mb|2N!|nt|jbgood: hehe|pg|| nt|roswolf: DBL presumably just shows cards|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Welcome to Gy Szalay|pg|| nt|szalay: hi all|pg|| nt|roswolf: and here a thin 3nt|pg|| nt|athene: hi|pg|| nt|roswolf: hi:)|pg|| nt|granguru: 3@D can be alternate suits that is @D+@S|pg|| nt|granguru: more @d |pg|| nt|granguru: S knows finesse is not working. can establish @C but no fast entry to dummy|pg|| nt|granguru: to throw @H|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: so Roy cud have come back later hu Joao|pg|| nt|jfaria: wlc b didnt loose much :)|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: :)|pg|| nt|royhughes: Here is a typical defensive bidding problem|pg|| mb|p|nt|roswolf: well now judgment comes into it|pg|| nt|MolvaM: 5 level belongs to the opps :)|pg|| nt|pelu: diff to decide on 5-level|pg|| nt|roswolf: south tempted to bid 6?|pg|| nt|MolvaM: zmud cant be sure of void spades so will probably pass|pg|| nt|athene: 1@C natural (ish), strong (ish) and forcing|pg|| nt|szalay: N-S are a rare pair from Hungary: they r not from Budapest|pg|| nt|szalay: from our Sun City, Szeged, and could improve a lot thx to BBO|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Are you saying people don't play bridge outside Budapest?|pg|| nt|pelu: I am told 15-17 - and then N's hand = 1NT|pg|| nt|toral5: but barring this hand.lol|pg|| nt|toral5: south PLEASE dont DUCK @D|pg|| nt|pelu: but here Sapan: I would never overcall 1@D|pg|| nt|toral5: thank u pelu:)|pg|| nt|rcerreto: 6@c is very good|pg|| nt|othered1: And 1N, assuming it's nothing special in their methods, should kill it.|pg|| nt|rcerreto: 3NT is not|pg|| nt|benjy: wonder what 2NT is?|pg|| nt|benjy: well if south bids 5@C now|pg|| mb|3C!|nt|pelu: for sure W cant bid 5@s - but I have been wrong before :)|pg|| nt|kirp: 4@S looks like a strange bid?|pg|| nt|toral5: hopefully he will play @C properly|pg|| nt|toral5: match getting closer;only 2 imp deficit|pg|| nt|toral5: @D duck will be fatal|pg|| nt|toral5: now 1 imp|pg|| nt|royhughes: I see you guys managed fine without me :)|pg|| nt|jfaria: failing to bid 1nt W got trouble|pg|| nt|royhughes: West doubled despite the short diamonds, and East just chose to bid his longest suit|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: dont blame him... i wd dbl too|pg|| nt|benjy: then north could raise?|pg|| mb|p|nt|bagman: Having showed 44 majors and getting no reaction from partner, W could show his 3 card support expecting to be in a decent trump suit|pg|| nt|jfaria: @s will prevail |pg|| nt|runnerup: strange bidding to worse game but mames now|pg|| nt|kirp: strangely enuff, its cold|pg|| nt|kirp: now with the lead|pg|| nt|kirp: play 3 trumps, then finesse in @Cs for @D pitch|pg|| nt|kirp: good bid by E!!!|pg|| nt|kirp: S is wondering how to keep down undertrix|pg|| nt|royhughes: I don't fault EW -- it's a matter of style|pg|| nt|jfaria: and passing 2@d?|pg|| nt|royhughes: My preference is to pass the West cards|pg|| nt|royhughes: on the first round, I mean. He has to pass 2@d|pg|| nt|jfaria: after E pass ther is a case for passing too|pg|| mb|3N|nt|eamongall: If anybody is following a pair you can find their probable table from the following |pg|| nt|jbgood: Boye may lead a club now and get a plus score ag 5|pg|| nt|roswolf: i think it was the @C position which influenced him more|pg|| nt|roswolf: not much to the play the club ace is right or it isnt:)|pg|| nt|athene: if west invites, east might bid it on the strength of the good club suit, even though he is minimum in terms of hcp|pg|| nt|szalay: not really, they r from Szeged and few pairs from Pecs|pg|| nt|rv: North's 2n is artificial showing 3 hand types a) 18-19 balb) 5-5 (14)15-16 c) single suiter @s 18+ GF|pg|| mb|p|nt|bagman: S wants to compete but the majors are behind her so she gives up|pg|| nt|bridge_one: Q@C help ,,, opps |pg|| nt|toral5: oh my god|pg|| nt|pelu: at many tables played by N (1Nt and tranfer) - down on @C-lead|pg|| nt|toral5: why this duck?|pg|| nt|benjy: so that hand is far too strong for 18/19 bal|pg|| nt|rcerreto: I agree|pg|| nt|rv: South knew North is unlikely to have 5@s+5@c 14-16, hence his 3@c bid:)|pg|| mb|5C|nt|szalay: Hungary is more or less Budapest orientated, bridge is even centralized|pg|| nt|athene: difficult lead problem for south|pg|| nt|glen: should be three aces and a trump|pg|| nt|runnerup: in other table declarer took advantise off that same lead to put @d looser away ,but lost control because 4-1 and K -offside in @h contract|pg|| nt|glen: 4@S works well here on the 3-3 @S breat|pg|| nt|fabsayc: rather tame bidding|pg|| nt|glen: break|pg|| nt|hawe45: As always - trump-lead|pg|| nt|jfaria: but if any i would bid 1nt|pg|| nt|othered1: methods seem to be pretty sound, but south is still facing taking a shot at slam|pg|| nt|rcerreto: might N raise?|pg|| mb|p|nt|bridge_one: OK|pg|| nt|roswolf: the clubs can of course be set up here for 12 tricks|pg|| nt|pelu: 1@H - 4@D - 4@S - 5@D and 51S by Helgemo!|pg|| nt|pelu: 15 INP to Monaco |pg|| nt|MolvaM: no so easy if east ducks|pg|| nt|athene: north could have made life easier, perhaps, by doubling 1@H|pg|| nt|athene: but he finds the heart anyway|pg|| nt|roswolf: indeed|pg|| nt|athene: some play a double of these transfer responses as some sort of takeout double anyway|pg|| nt|athene: for example after nebulous 1@C - 1@H [spades], X = diamonds and hearts, and 1@S = clubs and hearts|pg|| nt|Walddk4: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswrunda3.html|pg|| nt|athene: but without special agreements of that sort i would have thought double would just be hearts and 1@S would be takeout, the same as after a transfer over 1nt|pg|| nt|szalay: Mr. Zsak is teacher of Szeged bridge, he was teacher of Mr. Cseho of other table when he attended Faculty of Medicine there. as u know: he is my psychiatrist:)|pg|| nt|kirp: unless E thinks playing for a simple @H finesse is better option!|pg|| nt|granguru: a deceptive move|pg|| nt|glen: now Benito might or might not lead his singleton @D here|pg|| nt|glen: @D lead, A, @D ruff, @H to the Q, and rats, that's ruffed!|pg|| nt|fabsayc: his rule is a bit too rigid to be the absolute truth|pg|| nt|glen: we were out in the beer garden when the TD came by to get us all back in this match|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: nice @C9|pg|| mb|p|nt|granguru: but defense is obvious|pg|| nt|rv: frozen @d suit, can't see a way for Zmud to make this |pg|| nt|hawe45: No - but often opponents find the way...|pg|| nt|hawe45: Double-dummy it´s lay-down|pg|| mb|p|nt|jbgood: even 6@h a good save over 4@s:)|pg|| nt|jbgood: spade ace and a club takes it 1 down|pg|| nt|davpro: Defense better take their tricks at once...|pg|| nt|danilo1: 140 I believe|pg|| nt|royhughes: I am not convinced anyone has the absolute right answer to these problems|pg|| nt|rcerreto: no|pg|| nt|rv: South did well to bid 5@c instead of languishing in 3n|pg|| nt|benjy: I doubt that they have discussed the difference between 3@C then 5@C and a direct 5@C|pg|| nt|rv: their methods were not good enough to bid slam accurately|pg|| nt|benjy: personally i think that a direct 5@C should imply that you don't care what partner has|pg|| nt|rcerreto: N has very good controls but bidding 6 would be undisciplined|pg|| nt|rcerreto: (but worth many imps)|pg|| pc|h4|nt|jbgood: north really bid his hand to the limit:)|pg|| nt|MolvaM: 27 teams from group-A will qualify for the knockouts. and 5 teams from group-B|pg|| nt|athene: :)|pg|| nt|athene: east might try ducking in dummy and dropping the @H10 to induce north to lay down the @HK|pg|| nt|athene: but that would only work if south would lead the @H9 from @H9xx|pg|| nt|szalay: as u know: we, Hungarians try to avoid D lead vs NT|pg|| nt|athene: D = doubleton or diamond?|pg|| nt|szalay: diamond|pg|| nt|rv: Anklesaria can duck this, win @HK and play @SA and @ST to prevent any mess-up on normal line of play|pg|| nt|jfaria: of c|pg|| nt|benjy: I agree, i think it is very tough to bid slam after a 1@S opener|pg|| nt|othered1: I like methods that let me bid 2@C on south's hand, rebidding them non-forcing, if that's what seems right. 2/1 absolute game force has some holes in it.|pg|| nt|rcerreto: absolutely|pg|| pc|h2|nt|MolvaM: 15 how? 5s cant be made I think|pg|| nt|jfaria: peacefull partscore|pg|| nt|hawe45: You see...|pg|| pc|hA|nt|eamongall: We are covering tables 8-15 as shown on the results web page ... so the bottom 8 lines are tables H G F E A B C D in that order |pg|| nt|jbgood: @s 6 for a club now|pg|| pc|hQ|pg|| nt|jbgood: Boye should be able to read that|pg|| nt|roswolf: and probably on this layout so can 6@D|pg|| mc|12|nt|athene: declarer can't untangle his black suits here|pg|| nt|hawe45: You look around the table - and you take your decision|pg|| nt|rv: terrible start by Key-Texas here, each bad result and being on Vu-graph is adding up|pg|| nt|benjy: i play 2/1 GF but i would be debating about what to bid over a 2NT opening, think i would show a single suited slam try and if pd denied a @H control then i would bid a slam|pg|| nt|othered1: If south can bid 2@C, even if it can be a mere sign-off with long @C, north will think of slam, somewhere, immediately|pg|| nt|rv: if North had opened 2n, there was small chance for N-S to get to slam if South shows @c suit mild slam try on which North will cue 4@d followed by 4@h cue by South (key bid)|pg|| pg|| qx|o21|st||md|3ST653H7DT98652CK8,SJ9HAKQJ983D74C95,SQ82HT65DAKJ3C764,SAK74H42DQCAQJT32|sv|n|nt|psyck: this is looking like BAM scoring but for deal 1|pg|| nt|elbec: another nice hand here|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: 7 boards to go and noone can leave the table |pg|| mb|p|nt|buddyshah: Wrong to lead trumop when south shwing So much length|pg|| mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|nt|sunsamvar: slam on a fin..|pg|| mb|p|mb|2D|mb|d|mb|3C|nt|psyck: S wants to preempt, but unfav vul|pg|| nt|bagman: This slam is as close to a finesse as can be. If one team bids it and another stays out, it's a coin flip for 11 IMPs|pg|| mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|nt|sunsamvar: cud be descisive|pg|| nt|bagman: Bidding the slam or staying out of the slam are both equally good choices|pg|| nt|psyck: S takes the low road, even 3@d not worth it as it does not preempt & only helps opps|pg|| nt|bagman: the great shuffler decides which team gains|pg|| nt|elbec: here it can help opps bidding a 6@h - 1 :)|pg|| nt|buddyshah: :) Ps thinking|pg|| mb|p|nt|buddyshah: but i thiink Q in @D wont allow him :)|pg|| mb|p|nt|sunsamvar: he will go on i thk|pg|| nt|bagman: W has shown good hearts and a better hand than a direct jump to 4@H over 1@S|pg|| pc|dA|nt|elbec: wise pass from E|pg|| nt|psyck: PS may have thought N did not open & if he has @d's black suits may be unfavorably placed with S|pg|| nt|bagman: both 6@H and 4@H have about the same expected IMP value|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d2|pc|d4|pg|| pc|s2|nt|cumino: Can make slam only with @D and @D defence. |pg|| nt|sunsamvar: very wise in retrospect... but after the @D dbl i wd be tempted to go on as East|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: expecting solid @H and either @SQ or better still @Ck with P|pg|| nt|psyck: indeed was tempting|pg|| nt|buddyshah: finesse? why not? u lose something?|pg|| nt|bagman: Now W can gain an imp playing S to hold the @CK and 4 spades (indicated by the 3rd/5th deuce)|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s9|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h7|pc|hK|pc|h6|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: a vienna coup ?|pg|| nt|bagman: oops; no entries to ruff the diamond and then execute the trump squeeze|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d3|pc|h4|pc|d5|pg|| nt|buddyshah: @S ruff|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s5|pc|sJ|pc|s8|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s6|nt|bagman: just ruff the diamond, cash the @SK and then guess what to do in clubs|pg|| pc|hA|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h5|pc|c2|pc|d6|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hT|pc|s7|pc|d8|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c7|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pg|| nt|buddyshah: NEXT.|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c21|st||md|3ST653H7DT98652CK8,SJ9HAKQJ983D74C95,SQ82HT65DAKJ3C764,SAK74H42DQCAQJT32|sv|n|nt|hawe45: 4 @S making - good luck|pg|| nt|jbgood: playing for the singleton jack with E:) |pg|| nt|davpro: @c to T was obviously wrong if E has 2 @c...I'm sleeping|pg|| nt|jbgood: not the precentage play:)|pg|| nt|davpro: no- @c 2-2|pg|| nt|jbgood: yes|pg|| nt|jbgood: sleeping too:)|pg|| nt|roswolf: yes angelini not getting their own way|pg|| nt|kirp: so its 25-20 actually|pg|| nt|runnerup: feeling bid perhaps|pg|| nt|kirp: 25-22 sorry|pg|| nt|kirp: this looks like easy 3N NS|pg|| nt|glen: and there you have it, never a dull moment|pg|| nt|glen: clever 1NT bid in the other room|pg|| nt|rv: Anklesaria has already shown @SA and can't have both @DA and @HK for passed hand|pg|| nt|rv: well played Zmud|pg|| nt|rv: Z-men are getting everything right here, expected from world class players|pg|| nt|royhughes: Different approaches -- that's what makes bridge so great|pg|| nt|benjy: The hole only exists because north is too strong for a 1@S opener (when balanced)|pg|| nt|rv: possible auction 2n-3@s(puppet to 3n)-3n-4@c (@c club suit slam try)-4@d (cue)-4@h (cue)-6@c|pg|| nt|rcerreto: 6@h on a finesse|pg|| nt|rv: even this auction is slightly ambitious|pg|| nt|othered1: Forcing 2N on that hand is, in itself, a patch of a system hole :)|pg|| mb|p|nt|bridge_one: 5@H 2 down|pg|| nt|granguru: Nunes went 1 off i 4@H here|pg|| nt|kirp: NS may get to game in @Hs, not a succcess|pg|| nt|kirp: 2 opening bids, hard to sotp|pg|| mb|2C|nt|roswolf: hmm mysterious|pg|| nt|pelu: @H AK |pg|| nt|MolvaM: ahh defence played @hAK|pg|| nt|szalay: funny, that I read interviews about Fantunes-Angelini affair this morning|pg|| nt|jfaria: now a choice between to major games|pg|| nt|glen: but W is not selling out cheaply here|pg|| nt|fabsayc: south is forced into a view at this turn|pg|| nt|fabsayc: still the odds are west is about to raise spades, so bidding 3@H is not unreasonable|pg|| nt|jfaria: but above all good partnership is the more important|pg|| mb|p|nt|jfaria: sure not|pg|| nt|kirp: 1@H a transfer|pg|| nt|kirp: 1@D is unbalanced hand, so I guess N does not want to go 4 penalties|pg|| nt|glen: modern bridge: 3 value showing bids, and you have 14 high card points|pg|| mb|4H|nt|pelu: its so easy when u see all 52 cards - try to take place behind the player and only see 26 cards|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: trouble here|pg|| nt|royhughes: West's 2@d shows a major|pg|| nt|royhughes: this is a common treatment today|pg|| mb|p|nt|roswolf: not a good result for hungary in the other room|pg|| nt|runnerup: ok this if any must be 3nt all around ,but I have learned not to say it aloud,because something not so normal seems to happen somewhere in all boards |pg|| nt|hawe45: Suicide opening|pg|| nt|toral5: where do you expect @C ace to be?|pg|| mb|p|nt|bridge_one: 4@S correct bid !|pg|| nt|MolvaM: well that was a bit of a careless defence I thk|pg|| nt|roswolf: indeed|pg|| nt|roswolf: dont like the spade overcall|pg|| nt|MolvaM: well the alternative is also not attractive|pg|| nt|jfaria: 4@d says nothing about @h i presume, just shows fit/short|pg|| nt|glen: N's pass would be forcing for most, after the 4@D shortness bid|pg|| nt|glen: now S has to decide if his hand is gold, or straw|pg|| nt|glen: W cuebids and now that lets N show @H support|pg|| nt|glen: if W had bid 4@S, N would have a choice of bidding or passing|pg|| mb|p|nt|jbgood: 5@s made on the unfortunate lead of the @c ace next door|pg|| nt|jbgood: doubled to boot|pg|| nt|rv: Zmud normally will pass with any semi-bal hand|pg|| nt|toral5: why would i talk after seeing 52 cards?|pg|| nt|toral5: you precisely play east for q10 @C.than @D duck is correct|pg|| nt|pelu: after 1Nt - 3Nt I hate to lead minor - often we have better attack in major|pg|| nt|jfaria: since S cant X maybe N can|pg|| nt|rcerreto: avoided|pg|| pc|dK|nt|roswolf: transfer to spades|pg|| nt|roswolf: 1@H|pg|| nt|szalay: I doubt anyone could miss a game here|pg|| nt|kirp: 1@S denies 4 @Ss|pg|| nt|rv: normal contract for E-W is 3n which has no play on @s lead ducked|pg|| nt|hawe45: Seems to be 500 for charity|pg|| nt|rcerreto: 4@h is a good common sense bid|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|runnerup: north has not found hearts obfiously -so svedish increasing lead perhaps|pg|| nt|jfaria: depending on agreement|pg|| nt|danilo1: Gold may see @C shortness ... and bid 5@S ... however, not easy choice ...|pg|| nt|kirp: my explanations are all hypothetical here, have no idea what Poles are actually playing|pg|| nt|glen: wow, S lets 4@S by with a 6-5|pg|| pc|d2|nt|bagman: E doesn't want to lead from her collection|pg|| nt|bagman: Every card might be right or wrong|pg|| nt|roswolf: but lavazza may suffer in the end|pg|| nt|szalay: and I wd like to be in 4S, anyway|pg|| nt|athene: most bid more than 1@S with four-card support but i am sure they will unravel it all|pg|| nt|roswolf: OH I COULD VERY EASILY:) |pg|| nt|szalay: this game about vulnerable bonuses, more or less|pg|| nt|roswolf: might not be good play but.....|pg|| nt|danilo1: correct action - hand looks like double fits|pg|| nt|kirp: I guess 2@Cs EW can be held to 4 trix|pg|| nt|jbgood: nunes might have won it - but forgot to pull trumps, and opps got a @d ruff|pg|| nt|fabsayc: depends how you interpret the double, does it invite a sac, i think so|pg|| nt|toral5: missed the lead here|pg|| nt|pelu: so my "normal" lead would be a @S from East - here killing :)|pg|| nt|jfaria: that's it|pg|| pc|d4|pg|| nt|roswolf: well a simple 4@S on this one|pg|| nt|MolvaM: but congrats geoffrey for yr prediction powers|pg|| nt|jfaria: that is a nice discussion about ownership of the hand|pg|| nt|jfaria: x from S would be TO so N cooperates|pg|| nt|benjy: yes but there are loads of hands where one wants to respond, thats why i favour a gazilli style of rebids|pg|| nt|rv: this E-W seem to be playing accurate and steady bridge, are they new young stars of Italy|pg|| pc|c4|nt|szalay: bridge wd be a very boring game if we could bid seen by both hands|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|toral5: and that surely is WITHOUT seeing 52 cards:)|pg|| nt|pelu: my analyse is: 1: I dont like to lead minor, 2: @S or @H, 3: @HA entry,so: @S|pg|| pc|cK|nt|MolvaM: u sensed that defence coming and predicted 5s making :)|pg|| nt|roswolf: this is cheeky|pg|| nt|MolvaM: wasnt a very scientific sequence|pg|| nt|MolvaM: but effective apparently|pg|| nt|MolvaM: looks like he will establish the 5th heart|pg|| nt|MolvaM: for his 10th trick|pg|| nt|roswolf: yes methinks he is very lucky|pg|| nt|jbgood: that is the legitimate downer lead:)|pg|| nt|granguru: problem is what to do with @D if you take 3 round of trumps|pg|| pc|c5|pg|| nt|pelu: easy game here - time to go for coffee :)|pg|| nt|pelu: but go fast :)|pg|| nt|MolvaM: here is the running scores and current ranking http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswleaderb.html|pg|| nt|kirp: ruff a spade and 3 rounds of trumps and hope something good happens |pg|| nt|rcerreto: not quite young|pg|| nt|rcerreto: but emerging|pg|| pc|c8|nt|royhughes: NS made 3NT +1 in the other room|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c6|nt|kirp: oops|pg|| nt|glen: 2@Cs and a @D only, and this makes|pg|| nt|lechcold: ducking @D in 20 was not bad...it loses only if East has 1-2 small clubs|pg|| mc|11|nt|MolvaM: 46 teams playing in group A (27 will qualify), and 74 teams playing in group B (only 5 teams will qualify)|pg|| nt|roswolf: you need to qualify for SWISS A then:)|pg|| nt|rv: if Texas had opened 3@s, Balicki might have bid 3n or doubled (close decision) and if he had doubled Zmud might have bid 4@c which is last making contract for E-W|pg|| pg|| qx|o22|st||md|4SKJTHK2D542CJ8763,SQ542H64D83CAQ942,S863H85DAQJT9CKT5,SA97HAQJT973DK76C|sv|e|nt|psyck: hmm, after 1@s response, i'm surprised E did not push to game other room|pg|| mb|1H|mb|p|nt|elbec: considering he's also vulnerable|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|nt|buddyshah: This is a chance for Texans to take a "Vul" lead |pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|nt|elbec: here it is|pg|| nt|bagman: No E just has to make this; likely to lose a heart, a spade and a diamond for 10 tricks|pg|| nt|bagman: now|pg|| nt|psyck: well, nearly every board has been providing oportunities, & still a lonn way to go|pg|| nt|elbec: why is W thingking? |pg|| mb|p|nt|buddyshah: now he has to make it :) W/o an entry to dummy , But remember, south has to Lead :)|pg|| mb|p|nt|bagman: did somebody forget a convention|pg|| nt|elbec: no more :)|pg|| nt|psyck: W always thinks :)|pg|| nt|bagman: he has a spade entry to dummy|pg|| pc|d2|nt|psyck: he is a relatively slow player :)|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|d6|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h4|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d4|pc|d8|nt|bagman: would he think when partner has bid 7NT and RHO passed?|pg|| pc|d9|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d5|pc|h6|pc|dT|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|s7|pc|c8|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cT|pc|h3|pc|c7|pg|| nt|psyck: sure :)|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|s2|pc|h8|pg|| nt|buddyshah: WD Texans|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|h7|pg|| pc|sA|pc|sT|pc|s4|pc|s3|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sK|pc|s5|pc|s6|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c22|st||md|4SKJTHK2D542CJ8763,SQ542H64D83CAQ942,S863H85DAQJT9CKT5,SA97HAQJT973DK76C|sv|e|nt|eamongall: My good friends here McGann and Brown |pg|| nt|eamongall: they owe me several pints of guiness |pg|| nt|bridge_one: 4@S made in other room ecause duck the A in @D|pg|| nt|jbgood: 4@s and coffee time|pg|| nt|davpro: I've got coffee all the time :)|pg|| nt|roswolf: yes another hidden advantage of bidding vul games:)|pg|| nt|pelu: No our job is to see the odds - and when try to explain why players play against odds|pg|| nt|royhughes: by ok, I mean taking all his tricks|pg|| nt|royhughes: Well done by NS|pg|| nt|benjy: On board 19 the ace of @C was also led for a flat board|pg|| mb|1H|nt|MolvaM: yes. but could be more difficult to stay in the top 27 there|pg|| nt|jfaria: dont think Forrester could win |pg|| mb|p|nt|roswolf: this could be nip and tuck|pg|| mb|1S|nt|szalay: btw I am quite glad to (present) outcome of this match. I like this guys (and secret, pls) I am not big fan of Fantunes|pg|| nt|athene: well, it's not over yet...|pg|| nt|roswolf: our lips are sealed:)|pg|| nt|rv: muiderberg or tartan here?|pg|| mb|2D|nt|runnerup: nothing should happen here but ..|pg|| nt|athene: not by any means automatic to wander into 3nt with these NS cards|pg|| nt|szalay: wd be anyone pass with East hand?|pg|| nt|benjy: super agressive 2@D|pg|| mb|3H|nt|roswolf: indeed|pg|| nt|roswolf: i hate the overcall|pg|| nt|roswolf: yes|pg|| nt|pelu: iasy to fins the @s in OR - here E had the chance to bid @S on low levcel :)|pg|| nt|royhughes: The South hand would be considered a bit too good for a single raise by many|pg|| nt|royhughes: But it is a matter of style|pg|| nt|rv: at these colors, their style is to get in|pg|| mb|p|nt|Walddk2: Welcome to Barbara Apel|pg|| nt|barbyh: hi all, Barbara from Las vegas|pg|| nt|runnerup: loosing 3nt or 4h no game onsome chanche in |pg|| nt|lechcold: 2@D artificial GF|pg|| nt|benjy: clearly!|pg|| mb|p|nt|szalay: may be I am alone, but dont feel any positive to overcall with hand, especially with passed pd|pg|| nt|runnerup: getting ew sacrifise for nothing|pg|| nt|kirp: Not sure I understand this action by E|pg|| nt|kirp: S should balance but this tuff|pg|| nt|rv: is this Wilcosz?|pg|| nt|lechcold: 2@S = 10+, 5+@H|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: but downgraded due to 4333 pattern and the points in @C sitting under opener|pg|| nt|royhughes: East refuses to sell out cheaply|pg|| nt|rcerreto: an insanity which makes sense, when white vs red|pg|| mb|p|nt|eamongall: a decent score for NS for 1NT up 2 on board 7 |pg|| nt|bagman: The spade lead was unlucky for NS|pg|| nt|athene: south might try 3@D now|pg|| pc|d4|nt|eamongall: well there is a generous lead from McGann he won;t be happy |pg|| nt|hawe45: A fast - flat - board|pg|| nt|royhughes: Yes, agree with comments about downgrading|pg|| nt|rcerreto: to show a lead|pg|| pc|d3|nt|bridge_one: i bet 10 tricks here :)|pg|| nt|roswolf: precisely|pg|| nt|fabsayc: 2@D game force (xyz)|pg|| nt|rv: game missed here|pg|| nt|rcerreto: it makes a little difficult to partner to judge a sace, though|pg|| nt|rcerreto: just a matter of style|pg|| nt|benjy: i would bid game as west personally|pg|| nt|benjy: might even bid it as east as well|pg|| nt|othered1: me, too|pg|| nt|rcerreto: yes, passing is a little conservative|pg|| pc|d9|nt|athene: i would overcall for sure|pg|| nt|roswolf: after 3@D i think north has an automatic 3nt|pg|| nt|runnerup: very speculiar bidding -really like this..|pg|| nt|glen: in the other room the 1@S opening found the major fit without problem|pg|| nt|toral5: any one for 6@D here?|pg|| nt|benjy: when vul with nothing in @Ds|pg|| pc|dK|pg|| nt|szalay: I think 1N is a tipical underbid by underdogs vs, world classes|pg|| nt|szalay: at least 2N is sufficient|pg|| nt|athene: well, the problem is you know you don't want to play in 2nt|pg|| nt|roswolf: west has seen his pard's overcalls before|pg|| nt|jfaria: my Mac connection fade away, back in a micro pc|pg|| nt|rv: in my view Caiti should have surely raised here, additionally Pattacini could have bid it himself as well on auction|pg|| pc|d6|nt|danilo1: misfit hand ... so 3NT |pg|| nt|jfaria: 3nt, what eles?|pg|| nt|granguru: SS should be -1|pg|| nt|pelu: Polish @C in action, nice to have Lech here to explain |pg|| nt|toral5: or 6h as the cards lie|pg|| pc|d2|nt|athene: you want to play in 1nt or 3nt or a diamond partscore|pg|| nt|jfaria: on the other hand 5@h had a chance|pg|| nt|danilo1: good conclusion by West that declarer has probably only 4-card @S (otherwise could bid 3@D) ... |pg|| pc|d8|nt|barbyh: could have heldthem to 1 less|pg|| nt|bagman: There is a theory, which states that against blind 3NT one should lead from the worse 4-carder from a 4432|pg|| nt|barbyh: against matchpoints or imps?|pg|| nt|bagman: both|pg|| nt|bagman: I don't subscribe to that theory but I was told that it was backed up by a huge simulation|pg|| nt|eamongall: The good news for McGann on the last board is some 3NT+2 company is appearing ...|pg|| nt|bagman: who knows; at least it makes leading easy|pg|| nt|barbyh: true, |pg|| nt|barbyh: well in this case lead from a club and you holdthemto 4|pg|| nt|bagman: The diamond lead (suggested by the theory) holds the contract to 4, too|pg|| nt|MolvaM: after tomorrow evening the knockouts will start with 32 teams|pg|| nt|runnerup: can he escapepe for 1 down?|pg|| nt|kirp: even on a good day i see 2 down|pg|| nt|kirp: and given his bidding, i would gues 3 or more down|pg|| nt|granguru: even -2|pg|| nt|kirp: so a small pick up for EW, but not gteed|pg|| nt|rv: 2@h is @h +any other (incl @s), Polish weak 2|pg|| nt|rcerreto: yes, I agree|pg|| pc|dT|pg|| nt|kirp: we have seen down 3 morph into down 1|pg|| nt|lechcold: 3@S shortness I believe|pg|| pc|h5|nt|glen: this @S lead reduces communication to S hand to nothing|pg|| nt|lechcold: they will be in 6@H|pg|| nt|benjy: this will be the second cold game of the set they have missed|pg|| nt|rcerreto: bidding 4 in E was also an option|pg|| nt|rv: Pattacini has working @DK and his hand improves after his partner's 1@s response|pg|| pc|hA|nt|granguru: 3 or 4 imps....|pg|| pc|h2|nt|jfaria: played by N :)|pg|| nt|runnerup: some chance to increase spades |pg|| pc|h4|pg|| nt|pelu: 6 in red: u have to find 1 out of 2 key-cards (@HK - @DQ) fine odds for that|pg|| nt|toral5: they are on track|pg|| pc|d7|nt|danilo1: ... unfortunately for him ...9 and 7 behind 1086|pg|| nt|jfaria: Forrester may not see 9 tricks, but L/V have more dificulties in finding 5..|pg|| nt|danilo1: since @DK good, and @C10 coming will probably make ... sooner or later, opps must give him a trick|pg|| nt|kirp: s thinks he can N a @S ruff, but makes no sense given the 5@C bid !|pg|| pc|d5|nt|pelu: Israel in OR: stop in 4@h|pg|| nt|lechcold: Martens probably will make a move because of 55 distribution|pg|| nt|toral5: i think martens ll make 1 more bid with his reds shape|pg|| nt|toral5: nice scientific bidding by ew here.|pg|| nt|toral5: deserve to reach a slam:)|pg|| nt|lechcold: 2@D was 18+, so Jassem has no extras|pg|| nt|pelu: the red 10's are importen cards|pg|| nt|lechcold: on the other hand, x, AJxxx, Kxxx, Qxx gives reasonable slam|pg|| pc|h6|nt|szalay: 2D is an option as well, but u have stopper and kinda D suit, when u dont need length help|pg|| nt|granguru: a red suit now|pg|| nt|rv: Anklesaria 3n is lebensohl response showing game values w/o 4@s and stopper in @h|pg|| pc|dQ|pg|| nt|granguru: not easy|pg|| nt|kirp: W cant lead a @S|pg|| pc|cA|nt|davpro: the @d losers vanished|pg|| nt|jbgood: not easy to find the @d lead|pg|| nt|davpro: nope|pg|| nt|toral5: now a question of an extra trick depending upon locating @D q|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: Macs and ipads are not compatible with BBO :(|pg|| pc|c5|pc|s7|nt|athene: south just has a harder problem over 1@S than if east passed|pg|| nt|jfaria: I mean Gold thx|pg|| nt|kirp: a @h now and its 3 or more down|pg|| nt|kirp: good switch|pg|| nt|granguru: excelent defense by brogeland|pg|| pc|c3|pg|| pc|c2|nt|glen: will W exit with a @C?|pg|| nt|jbgood: he has to be on his toes:)|pg|| nt|lechcold: maybe Jassem has extras, though:)|pg|| pc|cT|nt|glen: (no)|pg|| nt|granguru: angelini's turn to open @H|pg|| nt|granguru: second exelent move|pg|| nt|jbgood: but the 8?|pg|| pc|h9|nt|roswolf: another poor contract but more reasonable to bid|pg|| nt|athene: that's one reason for overcalling|pg|| nt|szalay: if he has sthg extras, lets play 3N. 2D and 3D isnt bad, but very likely he will decline without AofD|pg|| pc|c6|pg|| nt|danilo1: exiting with @C would not help ... since declarer may play @HA and @HQ .. therefore Alfredo (hoping in @HK at pd) tried to search 2 @S tricks |pg|| pc|hQ|nt|danilo1: not taking 10 looks like error |pg|| pc|hK|pc|c4|nt|runnerup: he has them now|pg|| nt|kirp: too cute|pg|| pc|h8|pg|| pc|c7|nt|rv: much needed IMPs for Texans, all their supporters and neutrals:)|pg|| pc|c9|nt|jfaria: home|pg|| nt|danilo1: .. or not ... East must play third @S - or @D@HQ now safe|pg|| pc|cK|pc|h3|pg|| nt|kirp: now S can throw a @S|pg|| nt|toral5: oh.im apologise.he has @H 10|pg|| pc|sA|pc|sJ|nt|runnerup: so big fight for lost all big lost |pg|| pc|s4|nt|juror2: :)|pg|| pc|s3|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o23|st||md|1SQT83H97DAKT96CK9,SKJ9HJ6543D5CA754,SA742HKQ2D872C632,S65HAT8DQJ43CQJT8|sv|b|nt|sunsamvar: truly an exciting match... worth losing sleep over|pg|| mb|1D|mb|p|nt|buddyshah: Interesting suggestion, small @H lead would have made declarer sweat a lot.|pg|| nt|psyck: 6 comparisions to go and a 10 imp difference|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2S|nt|elbec: As cards lie, an inspired W can make 4@h. Will they bid it?|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cQ|nt|psyck: E could balance with an x maybe|pg|| nt|bagman: Here the only thing working for NS are the diamonds; no losers there; for EW the layout is pefect|pg|| nt|elbec: manno shows 4+@d and 4@s in an unbalanced hand|pg|| nt|psyck: but vul & only 3@h...|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: texans got pushed to 3@S in other room|pg|| nt|buddyshah: after this one 5 remains|pg|| nt|bagman: Patane likely to score 5 IMPs|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c4|pc|c6|pg|| pc|s5|nt|buddyshah: interesting|pg|| nt|psyck: even 2@s not easy|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s9|nt|bagman: North must play this carefully to be able to finesse twice in diamonds and in addition to take care of the club and heart losers|pg|| nt|elbec: spade now helps a little |pg|| pc|sA|pg|| nt|psyck: but will take @d hook & make same tricks as other room i suppose|pg|| nt|buddyshah: that @S told the Story about @D|pg|| nt|bagman: N is quite sure now that he has 2 spade losers, 2 clubs and a heart|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: @D hook is against the odds|pg|| nt|bagman: considers, and then plays a diamond up and finesses if E does not split...|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: u dont vplay for a 25% chance|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: having seen 2 trump losers there is no other chance :)|pg|| nt|bagman: Now the defense can lock declarer to dummy for a diamond trick|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s4|pc|h8|pc|s8|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: i thk hoping nto keep @S losers to 1 wd be better than plg east for both @D honours|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: east cud hv led trump from kxx for eg|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h7|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c2|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hQ|pc|hT|pc|h9|pg|| nt|bagman: Now declarer might try to sneak @D7 thru|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dJ|pc|dA|pc|d5|pg|| nt|elbec: here it comes|pg|| pc|dK|pc|h3|pc|d2|pc|d3|pg|| pc|dT|pc|h5|pc|d8|pc|dQ|pg|| nt|elbec: but east played immediately j of @d|pg|| nt|buddyshah: Good defense|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|c23|st||md|1SQT83H97DAKT96CK9,SKJ9HJ6543D5CA754,SA742HKQ2D872C632,S65HAT8DQJ43CQJT8|sv|b|nt|bagman: I probably would have lead the @S, too :( (maybe there's something in that theory, after all)|pg|| nt|hawe45: West must play this 3 NT|pg|| nt|roswolf: more distributional hands|pg|| nt|athene: well 2@D-3@D does show a decent hand so if he has some extra hcp he will bid it anyway|pg|| nt|szalay: suddent death is coming|pg|| nt|glen: lack of entries has declarer not taking a trump finesse,but instead go for the 10 tricks|pg|| nt|fabsayc: trump finesse was dangerous actually, might score queen and diamond overruff then|pg|| nt|juror2: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/or32runda1.html|pg|| nt|rv: those 2 are arguably 2 of top 5 partnerships in the world|pg|| nt|toral5: heading for a cliffhanger.2 imps deficit|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: Back with the Mac u mean :)|pg|| nt|jfaria: y :)|pg|| mb|1D|nt|runnerup: 3nt in wrong hand so chance for Zaleski|pg|| nt|hawe45: South led a small @C, but East had to go wrong|pg|| nt|kirp: lots of potential here, but actually a part score|pg|| nt|kirp: this match has seen too many weak NTs|pg|| nt|glen: specs note on last board that taking @S finesse could result in not making the contract|pg|| nt|rv: bridge Gods favor Texan Aces in this event, they got through as 5th team in repechage 4 yrs back and went on to reach finals, 2 yrs back they won appeal and then tie-break against ...|pg|| nt|rv: strong Polish team in R32 and went on to reach semis|pg|| mb|1H|nt|bridge_one: no|pg|| nt|MolvaM: we just love deals with a void rite? :)|pg|| nt|roswolf: :)|pg|| nt|pelu: 11 tricks in @s|pg|| nt|roswolf: hmm 3nt is unlucky to fail here|pg|| nt|szalay: but it rather looks hungarian death:(|pg|| nt|jbgood: it is not only the NTs that have been weak:)|pg|| nt|lechcold: on the other hand, with bad 18 (if 18 can be bad) Jassem would have bid 4@H after 3@D|pg|| nt|toral5: a jordan 2nt or a fit showing 3d?or just 4h?|pg|| nt|lechcold: delicate decision both hands|pg|| nt|april7: truscott 2NT|pg|| nt|toral5: 4s is a gud save here|pg|| mb|d!|nt|bridge_one: 1@D 3@D easy ...|pg|| nt|runnerup: 3nt opening not everyones choice|pg|| nt|royhughes: Lavazza made 4Hx+1 in the other room|pg|| nt|jfaria: I was trying to help Supermax when I went down :(|pg|| nt|benjy: WOuld you guys overcall 1@H?|pg|| mb|2H|nt|glen: modern bidding: three value showing bids to you, and you have 10 high card points|pg|| nt|runnerup: north didnt want open 4 @h because he was too good,but he has his 7 tricks and that is it |pg|| nt|kirp: N has too many @Ds, knows S also has them or a bad hand|pg|| nt|glen: as martin just said|pg|| nt|rv: Zimmerman was argubaly the weak link in the team and Texans haven't been able to capitalize on this|pg|| nt|rcerreto: unsure, I think I wouldn't|pg|| nt|othered1: no|pg|| nt|rcerreto: no strong feelings though|pg|| nt|rv: this year, they were 40 down after 6 brds in R32 against Zimmerman, outscored 2 world class pairs 38-2 in last 14 brds to win by 2|pg|| mb|2S|nt|MolvaM: 2nt is?|pg|| nt|danilo1: :)|pg|| nt|jfaria: how many @h will L/V play?|pg|| nt|glen: established partnerships often use transfers over the negative double|pg|| nt|runnerup: they had 800 ta take other table but wanted to 200 away|pg|| nt|kirp: Note that 3N by E is cold|pg|| nt|granguru: rofl|pg|| mb|p|nt|jbgood: quad est demonstrandum|pg|| nt|toral5: here they go|pg|| nt|panja: not me....and in comparison to 2@D on the previous deal....this is definitely more avoidable|pg|| mb|p|mb|3H|nt|runnerup: winnig some ipms strange way|pg|| nt|hawe45: To miss this 5 @D - played by West - will bring Zaleski 8 IMP|pg|| nt|jbgood: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/orrrunda7.html enables you to follow the exciting fights for 3rd place in some of the groups|pg|| nt|glen: the angelini team is show as in 29 spot on the running scores|pg|| nt|glen: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswrunda7.html|pg|| nt|rv: 3@h here shows 4@s, no @h stopper and GF values|pg|| mb|3S|nt|roswolf: this looks boring with no heart barrage|pg|| nt|MolvaM: spade fit and?|pg|| nt|pelu: 5@H could cost 500|pg|| nt|MolvaM: 5@h could just escape for down 3 I guess|pg|| nt|kirp: and by W goes down 3|pg|| nt|jbgood: (pls forgive my bad Latin)|pg|| nt|granguru: too high already|pg|| nt|kirp: quid errrat demonstratum|pg|| nt|kirp: !!!|pg|| nt|rv: part of lebensohl structure|pg|| nt|toral5: 5h also makes.trump q should be located i guess.|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|bagman: W has so much extras that he can afford to bid the game in NT instead of looking for the spades|pg|| nt|jbgood: 3 teams go to the A Swiss - and the others to B|pg|| nt|jbgood: :)|pg|| nt|jbgood: even from a kib: hunc est dimostrandum:)|pg|| mb|p|nt|davpro: 9 tricks in NT here|pg|| nt|granguru: QUOD ERAT DEMONSTRANDUM|pg|| nt|glen: 29 spot puts the team in tomorrow's pairs event|pg|| nt|glen: now 28, so close|pg|| nt|fabsayc: 27 from A and 5 from B continue in knockout stage|pg|| nt|pelu: so far 5 tables out of 16 in 6@h (B22)|pg|| nt|rcerreto: but it pushed opps one level higher|pg|| pc|h3|nt|szalay: what wd u say as west? i feel it normal 1n|pg|| nt|kirp: lovely fit here, good system when pard has to play the hand|pg|| pc|hK|nt|szalay: good lead:)|pg|| nt|athene: this match does illustrate the "game every hand" philosophy - most deals at least one pair is in game, and when one side bid game and the other didn't, the aggressive action ...|pg|| nt|athene: usually gained|pg|| nt|roswolf: @CQ followed by a diamond switch is possible|pg|| nt|glen: the knockout is hard tomorrow, 24 teams exit, 8 remain|pg|| nt|toral5: this is 1 down|pg|| pc|hA|nt|bridge_one: 4@D great choice by Versace|pg|| nt|roswolf: 2@S seemed to be too optimistic with no fit for pard's suit|pg|| nt|roswolf: ot @CJ:)|pg|| nt|jfaria: $1h is a real chalenge :)|pg|| nt|jbgood: tu kibs - you are truly a learned audience:)|pg|| nt|hawe45: Bad play - @C-swithcg will be killing|pg|| pc|h7|pg|| nt|athene: 31 imps so far for people in game when other room played partscore|pg|| nt|szalay: btw support X instead of 2C is queationable with so nice C suit|pg|| nt|athene: many play support double is obligatory|pg|| nt|roswolf: I CERTAINLY DO|pg|| nt|athene: even with xxx and AKQJ10xx :)|pg|| nt|szalay: we opened cause we have so nice C suit|pg|| nt|szalay: I said only: questionable, may be I wd XX myself|pg|| nt|athene: nunes knows if he wins this he doesn't have much chance|pg|| nt|jfaria: 4@h I mean|pg|| nt|danilo1: why 2NT alerted ... it just shows what he has :) ... 3-card @C support, some Hcp, BAL hand - and @S stop|pg|| nt|jfaria: no x lavazza will score|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|runnerup: perhaps even he didnt expect mojor Q eens to table |pg|| nt|roswolf: really|pg|| nt|runnerup: 3nt not makeable i think so -entryes dead|pg|| nt|kirp: score is 36-22 for NS, this a good pickup for EW and match is not over|pg|| pc|cK|nt|athene: but ducking could lead to even more down of course|pg|| nt|hawe45: Undo, pls|pg|| nt|rv: surprising Balicki didn't find the switch|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c2|pg|| nt|toral5: ericas will lose here after seeing the other room result|pg|| nt|toral5: so israel increases thr lead|pg|| nt|toral5: no @D king now and 4s x is home|pg|| nt|toral5: @C q10 coming|pg|| nt|pelu: strange that decl - after the X- didnt find @Hq - he even strat the @H-play with @HK|pg|| nt|toral5: contract depends on the card south plays|pg|| nt|lechcold: yes, it was little strange|pg|| nt|toral5: tough time for ginossar|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: 7 imps back to the Coffee guys|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c3|nt|roswolf: really!?|pg|| nt|szalay: btw its the correct line if @Cs are 5-3|pg|| nt|athene: he has 8 tricks so he wants north to cash out his clubs - hoping he just loses four tricks and then has a spade-diamond squeeze|pg|| nt|fabsayc: spade finesse is more or less marked|pg|| nt|rv: with no entry in his hand, suspected he will not continue @hs and then it is matter of which suit to switch|pg|| nt|rv: rare error by Balicki, you might not see another one till the end of this match:)|pg|| pc|cT|nt|jbgood: i guess they play 2@c as game force - but not sure. if so, E may have regretted his pass, 3 nt always on|pg|| nt|MolvaM: 4s showed fit+limit hand|pg|| nt|roswolf: this looks -1|pg|| nt|glen: if you just alert only natural, you cut down on the number of alerts|pg|| nt|jfaria: Lauria must decide between @d and @s |pg|| nt|glen: @d ace now, and with nothing better to do, then the @C J?|pg|| nt|jfaria: Versace I mean |pg|| nt|jbgood: (and I will never try Latin again, apart from Volvo and Vademecum:))|pg|| pc|c9|pg|| pc|cJ|nt|toral5: why will north push a @C looking at king on table WITHOUT @D ace?wel done eldad|pg|| pc|s3|nt|szalay: and try for D-S squeeze|pg|| nt|fabsayc: certainly %|pg|| pc|c5|nt|roswolf: maybe -2|pg|| nt|roswolf: obviously west thought 1@C was short ish|pg|| pc|c6|pg|| nt|bagman: Even with the bad club break, declarer has 11 tricks losing only the two aces and scoring well in the pairs|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|kirp: sorry 36-23|pg|| pc|sK|nt|bagman: sry, the spades break also badly.... |pg|| pc|sA|nt|jbgood: perhaps E just took a shot with his meager values|pg|| pc|s6|pg|| nt|rv: atleast 1 down here, possibly even 2 down unless he gets @ds right|pg|| nt|panja: the dbl of 1@H...creates an erroneous impression...|pg|| nt|panja: so with two small @H..South is tempted to compete|pg|| nt|rv: North might have felt his @HKQ were working cards though he has bulk of values in opps suit|pg|| pc|d2|nt|bagman: so declarer has only the same 10 tricks as those who play in spades|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dT|nt|kirp: down 2 lookslke|pg|| nt|jbgood: 27 teams from A and 5 from B go to the KO stage - no c/o|pg|| pc|d5|pg|| nt|rv: I can't fault his double too much|pg|| nt|rcerreto: is passing 1@h a real option?|pg|| nt|rv: maybe Panja is suggesting 1n instead of double|pg|| nt|rcerreto: ah, ok|pg|| nt|rcerreto: I missed that, sorry|pg|| pc|dA|nt|rv: what is panel's view double or North with North hand?|pg|| nt|rv: double or 1n?|pg|| pc|s9|nt|danilo1: if @DA cashed (far away from obvious), than depends how serious Versace will take 2NT bid by South|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d4|pg|| nt|glen: in another match, the @D was ducked as well|pg|| nt|panja: dbl could be an option......or 1Nt...but the point is....South will compete a level higher after the dbl with heavy @H values|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hQ|pc|h8|pc|h9|pg|| nt|roswolf: dummy is really le mort now|pg|| nt|rcerreto: if you X then you can show a @h stopper|pg|| pc|d8|pc|dJ|pc|dK|nt|bagman: still scoring well, though|pg|| nt|rcerreto: if you bid 1NT @s are likely lost|pg|| pc|sJ|pg|| nt|jbgood: Running scores: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswrunda6.html|pg|| nt|rcerreto: 2 stopper and weak spades...|pg|| mc|8|nt|rv: in my view it is close, I might have seriously considered 1n|pg|| nt|rcerreto: can make a difference|pg|| pg|| qx|o24|st||md|2SJ2HKQ875DKJCJ942,SA5HA6D97542CK853,SKT973H32DQT3CQ76,SQ864HJT94DA86CAT|sv|o|nt|elbec: still 51 to 41 for Texan Aces|pg|| nt|elbec: there's an 1 imp mistake |pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|1H|mb|2H|mb|p|nt|buddyshah: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/or161t2-2.htm this is the score Fed in the bridgemates ( or oficial website scores)|pg|| mb|3D|mb|p|nt|bagman: E hates to see the diamond raise to 3|pg|| nt|bagman: Now West needs to count that it was in the 3rd pos partner opened|pg|| nt|elbec: west thinking ... as it usually happens :)|pg|| nt|bagman: The fact that W has passed already does not make his hand any better|pg|| mb|p|nt|elbec: poor diamonds and only 52 total count with 10 low cards should tell him to pass :)|pg|| nt|buddyshah: sunerram is known to think, but he will figure it out and pass. |pg|| nt|bagman: W has shown INV+ in diamonds and E declined in case it's the INV; W has a good hand; with Ax Ax Kxxxx xxxx he surely could do more|pg|| mb|p|pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h4|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dK|pc|d4|pc|dT|pg|| nt|elbec: it should be now a flat board|pg|| nt|elbec: if manno finds @s switch|pg|| nt|bagman: 3NT might have made with a heart lead (low or high) with 2 hearts, 2 spades, 2 clubs and 3 diamonds|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|c6|pc|cT|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h3|pc|h9|pc|hQ|pg|| nt|buddyshah: o o|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c24|st||md|2SJ2HKQ875DKJCJ942,SA5HA6D97542CK853,SKT973H32DQT3CQ76,SQ864HJT94DA86CAT|sv|o|nt|jbgood: last one in the round robin |pg|| nt|jbgood: and cards lie badly for EW|pg|| nt|roswolf: We are now on the last board of the set. Thanks to our operator - Great Job! Our appreciation to all the organisers for ensuring that this fine event is brought to BBO vugraph. ...|pg|| nt|roswolf: Thanks too to my very learned fellow commentators Murat and Peter for their company and perceptive comments and to our specs whose contributions keep us on our toes.|pg|| nt|MolvaM: ok last board of the match|pg|| nt|MolvaM: next match to start in 29 minutes|pg|| nt|roswolf: We are now on the last board of the set. Thanks to our operator - Great Job! Our appreciation to all the organisers for ensuring that this fine event is brought to BBO vugraph. ...|pg|| nt|roswolf: Thanks too to my very learned fellow commentators Murat and John for their company and perceptive comments and to our specs whose contributions keep us on our toes.|pg|| nt|szalay: btw D-S squeeze is very unlikely|pg|| nt|roswolf: sorry dont agree|pg|| nt|szalay: to be honest|pg|| nt|jfaria: ducking @d helped, no need to choose between @s and @d|pg|| nt|danilo1: to note excellent play by Forrester, @D2 and not 10 ... Gold should not duck|pg|| nt|runnerup: some result here|pg|| nt|jbgood: c/o = carry over|pg|| nt|glen: and the last board of the swiss|pg|| nt|glen: for these two teams|pg|| nt|fabsayc: thanks operator, matches continue at 1am vancouver time, 3am toronto time|pg|| nt|toral5: 5 brds to go an israel up by 9|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: sry 6|pg|| nt|jfaria: in the meantime, while i was wondering in ether i heard some harsh coments of brother lucius about not bidding 1ntt on board 6 :)|pg|| nt|rv: wd to limit damage by Keyzad Anklesaria|pg|| nt|panja: with @SQ to 4 and @cqxx, surely 1Nt is worth considering..with @SAxxx....and three small Clubs....well|pg|| nt|rv: saving a trick on deal like last could make all the difference between staying alive in tourney or going home:)|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D!|nt|roswolf: We are now on the last board of the set. Thanks to our operator, Ilya - Great Job! Our appreciation to all the organisers for ensuring that this fine event is brought to BBO ...|pg|| nt|roswolf: vugraph. Thanks too to my very learned fellow commentators Gyorgy and Bill for their company and perceptive comments and to our specs whose contributions keep us on our toes.|pg|| mb|1H|nt|kirp: looks like NS in OR have a huge result, so Angelini may yet win this match,as it 36-30 right now|pg|| nt|rv: every OT and UT could be crucial in this match and I suspect both teams realise that|pg|| mb|2D|nt|MolvaM: now 28 :)|pg|| nt|glen: hey, toronto is moving close to vancouver|pg|| nt|royhughes: We are paid to express opinions!|pg|| nt|royhughes: (exactly what they are worth)|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|bagman: EW can make here 10 tricks in NT on a club lead 11 tricks otherwise|pg|| nt|MolvaM: 5 more matches will be played tomorrow and then 27 teams from group A, and 5 teams from group B will proceed to the knockouts|pg|| nt|athene: Fantunes are sort of forced to play weak notrump as a consequence of the rest of their system|pg|| nt|kirp: both these teams look to qualify i think|pg|| nt|glen: or is it still 4am eastern?|pg|| nt|jfaria: he sure expressed himself :)|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: and brother lucius's partners are paid to listen :)|pg|| mb|p|nt|szalay: if u know your pd is so weak for weak NT u wd pass|pg|| nt|szalay: some players have this "magic talent", others not|pg|| nt|roswolf: if they reach 4@S now north will have all the info he needs to axe|pg|| nt|kirp: this does look like 10 trix|pg|| nt|rv: arguably Monaco Z, Lavazza, Mahaffey and Angelini were the pre-tourney favorites, Angelini are already out since they finished 30th in Swiss A|pg|| pc|c4|nt|davpro: What have I missed in the bidding?|pg|| nt|MolvaM: tomorrow we start at 10.00 hrs CET|pg|| nt|roswolf: these 2 teams will surely be in contention|pg|| nt|fabsayc: 4am eastern yes :)|pg|| nt|glen: 2@H is not much of a preemptive raise with 5 trumps|pg|| nt|rv: they are still many excellent Polish teams, Israel, Netherlands who could easily beat any of the favorites|pg|| nt|rv: both East and West have stretched here|pg|| nt|royhughes: EW did well here -- picked off NS's best suit and then stopped in a good 2@c|pg|| nt|rv: very heavy 2@d by Caiti, possibly it is inverted minor and passed by East|pg|| pc|c3|nt|szalay: this partnership has this "talent"|pg|| nt|roswolf: east has heard the warning bell|pg|| nt|athene: east simply discounted his @CQ on the bidding, so he is left with a nine-count|pg|| nt|roswolf: i think that was fine judgment|pg|| nt|szalay: as I watched many times: they r frequently agressive when pd has good hand, and passive when has bad one...we call it: "magican"|pg|| nt|rcerreto: if 1@D is precision style, 2@D should be positive|pg|| nt|rv: I suspect they play inverted minor on even after Interference, Pattacini passed it since he has sub-min and Caiti is passed hand |pg|| pc|cQ|nt|roswolf: :)|pg|| pc|cA|pg|| nt|rv: incidentally Dutch are defending champions in this event|pg|| nt|rcerreto: suit quality was not that good, though|pg|| nt|panja: Decl can discard a Major suit loser on other Major here|pg|| pc|cT|nt|pelu: only 8 trick|pg|| nt|MolvaM: good lead|pg|| nt|glen: now N has room to jump support @Ss|pg|| pc|cJ|nt|bagman: E bid 3NT to show the spade stopper in case W was interested in that; If W had a huge @H raise, he would not pass 3NT|pg|| nt|davpro: W probably showed a M?|pg|| nt|davpro: 2@d balanced hand , 3@c a major, 4@d ask major (according to a kib)|pg|| nt|jbgood: probably|pg|| nt|roswolf: a little optimistic but a fair shot|pg|| nt|glen: 3@S asks are you italian, 4@S=yes|pg|| nt|kirp: 4th best lead, nothing better to sooth the soul|pg|| nt|hawe45: Ace - and !Queen = ruff|pg|| nt|rv: East could have passed instead of 1@S opening and Zmud could have raised to 2@s with flat 4333 shape|pg|| nt|hawe45: The 3 means, that the @D King is in North|pg|| pc|cK|nt|glen: this allows non-italians to play the partscore|pg|| nt|granguru: with this trick Angelini made his contract|pg|| nt|glen: this should coast home nicely, with no nasty splits about|pg|| pc|c7|pg|| nt|pelu: @S-lead would have given the 9. trick|pg|| nt|MolvaM: normal lead actually but sometimes people dont like to lead from 5 small minors and choose a major|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c6|nt|jbgood: the curse of underleading aces|pg|| nt|davpro: :)|pg|| nt|jbgood: but still down|pg|| nt|glen: unfriendly @Ds here|pg|| nt|granguru: if N plays @S Anelini wins the match|pg|| nt|granguru: If n plays @C is it a tie|pg|| nt|granguru: @h3 suit pref signal for @C|pg|| nt|jbgood: he has 2 black suits - a 50 % ? either this or that...:)|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: this will close the gap|pg|| pc|d6|nt|kirp: know pard has cards in @Hs, cant have enuff in @Ss to run the suit|pg|| pc|c2|pg|| pc|s6|nt|pelu: but the good old rule 4. best in yout longest suit :) - and here East has indicatet 4 card @s|pg|| nt|MolvaM: right peter :)|pg|| nt|glen: will doom this|pg|| nt|pelu: can u find a way to 9 tricks?|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|s7|pg|| nt|MolvaM: specs tell me board 17 was doubled in other room|pg|| nt|hawe45: Well done for 200|pg|| nt|khaled_m: Spade on a Heart|pg|| pc|s5|nt|bagman: Declarer is going to run the diamonds hoping for too many heart discards|pg|| nt|toral5: @S q10 nicely placed|pg|| nt|pelu: u are right - and @HA|pg|| nt|lechcold: if spade is played from the table, East must put @S10|pg|| nt|toral5: yes.dummy is an entry short thn|pg|| pc|sK|nt|MolvaM: if thats the case 5 imps more could go to monaco-Z |pg|| nt|roswolf: restart in 15-20mins|pg|| pc|s4|nt|runnerup: killing lead |pg|| nt|MolvaM: well we shall see|pg|| nt|roswolf: hmm the juniors have been brushed aside|pg|| nt|runnerup: yes so close match 36-39 probably -alot off interesting boards tx all bye|pg|| pc|sJ|pg|| pc|h2|nt|danilo1: obvious @S |pg|| pc|h9|nt|davpro: Does S know who has got the @d 4?|pg|| nt|kirp: Angelini wins by 2 imps I think|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|MolvaM: spade switch was needed|pg|| nt|glen: with 9 of 10 boards reported in this match, its Kanin in 18, Consus in 38|pg|| nt|glen: hungry steve (ok, hungary steve) is in 27, opp mirage in 28|pg|| pc|hA|pg|| nt|roswolf: scheduled re-start in 22mins approx from now|pg|| nt|pelu: no X when I see the bidding in OR (direct on the tabler)|pg|| nt|athene: heart to the ace and diamond up looks plausible|pg|| nt|kirp: thx all, |pg|| nt|royhughes: looks like 5 imps to lavazza|pg|| nt|khaled_m: spade gets ruffed|pg|| nt|panja: best to win @DA next...and do the needful|pg|| pc|d2|nt|roswolf: for results http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswrunda3.html|pg|| pc|d3|nt|athene: the idea is you just want to make sure of two heart tricks and if the finesses loses you might not even get two|pg|| nt|szalay: btw first 27 from swiss A, first 5 from swiss B go to KO|pg|| nt|athene: but losing finesse doesn't matter here anyway with the nice breaks in the red suits|pg|| nt|szalay: and first 8 has the right to choose opps from 9-32|pg|| nt|jbgood: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswrunda6.html for late arrived kibs|pg|| pc|dA|nt|jbgood: tu all - also for your Latin lessons! bye|pg|| nt|granguru: bye and ORA PRO NOBIS|pg|| nt|fabsayc: now diamond ace and diamond|pg|| pc|dJ|pg|| nt|bagman: There's no legitimate squeeze but it costs nothing to try|pg|| nt|MolvaM: now the defensive spade trick vanishes|pg|| nt|roswolf: yes which was why it was a fair shot|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|rv: in OR, Sridhar jumped to 4@h on 1@h-1@s on brd 22, no 2@d O/C by North in that room|pg|| pc|dK|nt|davpro: I need some sleep. Thx all kibs for pointing out my stupidity|pg|| nt|dburn: I doubt he cares all that much about the four, given what happened to the ace|pg|| nt|szalay: the ranking order 9-32 is decided by NOT the result, but WBF/EBL masterpoints|pg|| nt|jfaria: kind of 2 out of 3 ok, not a bad game vuln|pg|| nt|pelu: Russia has made a great comeback against Denmark - down 51-19 at halftime, but after 24 boards up 65-61 :(:(:(:(|pg|| pc|h6|pc|s3|pg|| nt|pelu: nice discarding by NS|pg|| nt|roswolf: yes careful|pg|| nt|rv: we could have a new leader in the match soon|pg|| pc|c9|nt|glen: only 27 teams from Swss A make KO|pg|| pc|c8|pc|h3|pc|d8|pg|| nt|jbgood: bye all|pg|| nt|davpro: bye all. I enjoyed as always.|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o25|st||md|3S763HQJ8632DAKTC7,SKT52HK954D65CJ42,SQJ4HT7DQJ98CKT96,SA98HAD7432CAQ853|sv|e|nt|buddyshah: doesnt he need that @C ruff in hand?|pg|| mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1H|mb|d|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d6|nt|elbec: EW were a little bit shy in this auction|pg|| nt|buddyshah: test|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: this might be a pick up for Patane|pg|| nt|buddyshah: test|pg|| nt|elbec: S is counting 2@h, 2@s and 1@c loser|pg|| nt|elbec: but W will probably ruff a @d|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d7|pc|dA|pg|| nt|bagman: There's also 3 heart losers|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: but will prob lose 3@H|pg|| nt|bagman: with a diamond ruff or sometimes without the ruff|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|hT|pc|hA|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|d9|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|psyck: danger of loseing 4@h too|pg|| nt|elbec: indeed|pg|| nt|psyck: so may be a push after all|pg|| nt|bagman: It's hard to cash the tricks in right order|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h7|pc|c3|pg|| pc|dT|pc|h9|pc|dJ|pc|d3|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: why did he duck the @H ?|pg|| nt|bagman: I really don't know|pg|| nt|bagman: His parter could not have the @HQ|pg|| nt|psyck: Texan lead will be down to 9 imps after losing 2 imps here|pg|| pc|hK|nt|bagman: The defense is unlikely to let this make|pg|| pc|c6|pc|d4|pc|h3|pg|| pc|c2|nt|bagman: E can afford to try 2x clubs|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cQ|pc|c7|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|s4|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s6|pc|sK|pc|sJ|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|c25|st||md|3S763HQJ8632DAKTC7,SKT52HK954D65CJ42,SQJ4HT7DQJ98CKT96,SA98HAD7432CAQ853|sv|e|nt|rv: Texan Aces need to stay in touch, reduce the deficit and hope for miracle in second segment|pg|| nt|hawe45: Bad communication, but 3 NT seems OK|pg|| nt|royhughes: lots of flags|pg|| nt|rv: spec was pointing, Italian bridge is so top heavy that any young or new pair have to play extraordinarily well to displace any of the top starts in national team|pg|| nt|rv: stars|pg|| nt|benjy: True it must be tough|pg|| nt|rcerreto: that's a real problem|pg|| mb|p|nt|sunsamvar: will they get to slam|pg|| mb|1D|nt|panja: right, Indian Bridge is similar...can a young pair easily win any big event Venky?|pg|| nt|rcerreto: good pairs are not encouraged to work |pg|| nt|rv: they have Lauria, Versace, Bocchi, Sementa, Duboin, Madala, Fantoni, Nunes|pg|| mb|2H|nt|royhughes: Here is an interesting bidding challenge|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|royhughes: 6@c looks like a good spot to me|pg|| nt|rcerreto: to improve their level|pg|| nt|rcerreto: even winning a national championship is close to impossible|pg|| nt|panja: and India has Tewari, Kushari and his protege, Kista-JM, Shridhar...it is almost similar..isn't it?|pg|| nt|rv: in my view Indian bridge is not so top heavy Panja|pg|| mb|d|nt|bagman: N might be showing @H + m at least 55|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: good slam... only requires @H break|pg|| mb|p|mb|2S|nt|royhughes: 6@h is ok too but maybe a bit more problematic if the hearts are 4-1|pg|| mb|p|nt|rv: incidentally all matches from R32 till semi-finals are 14x2, 2 k/o rounds today and tomorrow, finals on Wed is 14x3|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|panja: do you mean to say Itali has a big gap after those 10 players? I doubt that...|pg|| pc|hT|nt|barbyh: well bid auction|pg|| nt|pelu: NL-red 49-1 but now only 63-42 against Lovicz|pg|| nt|jfaria: W got 2 aces but poor @h|pg|| nt|rv: yes Formidables, DSM and Texan Aces are cut above rest, we don't such a big difference in comparision to other top 8 or 10 teams|pg|| pc|hA|nt|barbyh: waited for his second suit then bid spades|pg|| nt|panja: what you perhaps mean is that the (average of) top Italian players are a touch superiour than the avg. of top Indian players..and that is certainly true|pg|| pc|h2|nt|bagman: W had enough to balance but not enough to invite further|pg|| nt|rv: 2n is forcing here, I presume they would invite with 1n-2@c-2x-2@s|pg|| pc|h4|pg|| nt|khaled_m: communication problem|pg|| pc|d2|nt|royhughes: true. heart 9 and club jack are useful plus values|pg|| nt|jfaria: he shows the aces and let p take control|pg|| nt|royhughes: both quite valuable opposite partner's hand|pg|| nt|benjy: There aren't many countries where the top 10 players are all multiple european and world championship winners|pg|| pc|dK|nt|bagman: Are NS leading 3rd/low or is this an alarm clock lead?|pg|| nt|hawe45: 9th trick - might have problems is West ducks twice with the @D Ace|pg|| nt|rv: I presume Venkatesh's sequence here shows 5@s+4@d, mild slam try, he was stretching here|pg|| nt|jfaria: but E doesnt want to take control either|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: hands fit well but tough to find out the @Cj, @H9 for East and the solid @C suit for West|pg|| nt|royhughes: Sementa-Duboin made it tough in the other room with a spade barrage|pg|| nt|jfaria: either side must take a share of optimism|pg|| nt|jfaria: easy if E bid 4@c instead of 2@s|pg|| nt|jfaria: a slight overbid though|pg|| nt|royhughes: I think West can go on -- his partner has tried for slam opposite a passed hand|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: but 4@C tends to show not so good a hand |pg|| nt|jfaria: slam try with very good @c , no?|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: yes but the east hand is too good in my book for 4@C|pg|| nt|royhughes: Was the 4@h bid after noticeable thought?|pg|| nt|royhughes: I was busy typing, as usual|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: dont think there was a pause|pg|| nt|royhughes: That's good -- you want to be in tempo when you sign off in game|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d8|pg|| nt|royhughes: There may be uncertainty about what suit is trumps -- 2@s maybe didn't promise 4 hearts|pg|| nt|royhughes: So 5@c may be not forcing|pg|| nt|jfaria: think 5@c is kind of last train|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: if 3@S showed @Sa and 4@D the @Da is there room for points in @H wonders Baldu.. ?|pg|| nt|jfaria: W bid all the goodies on earth :)|pg|| nt|jfaria: not his fault if they stop bellow 6 level|pg|| nt|jfaria: now B wonders about @h quality from p|pg|| nt|benjy: usa is one|pg|| nt|benjy: is there another?|pg|| nt|panja: right....and how are the 11-20 in their comparison...|pg|| pc|c7|nt|rv: declarer may set-up 9th trick by setting another @c trick and only 1@d trick|pg|| pc|c4|nt|barbyh: whats an alarm clock lead?|pg|| nt|bagman: Most poles play 2/4 leads, as far as I know|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cQ|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: well done... fortune favours the brave and the brave drink Lavazza|pg|| nt|jfaria: still we must see if ther were no tempo problems|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: in India tho it is Whisky time... Cheers|pg|| nt|rv: in my view Italian top 2 to 3 teams are vastly superior to teams 4-8, that is not the case in India|pg|| nt|benjy: i'm not qualified to answer that|pg|| pc|d3|nt|pelu: 111 tricks even with @Ss 5-0 - no ruffs in East|pg|| pc|dA|nt|bagman: An alarm clock lead is an unexpected card telling partner to do something unexpected|pg|| nt|barbyh: lol in order to wake partner up?|pg|| nt|bagman: often a wrong honor or wrong card from known length|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d9|pg|| pc|dT|nt|rv: now 10 tricks|pg|| nt|lechcold: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/or32runda1.html running scores|pg|| nt|panja: I would like to contest that Venky...|pg|| pc|s2|pc|dJ|pc|d4|pg|| nt|panja: look at the performance in last 10 years....|pg|| nt|rv: neither is that the case in US, where young team defeated Nickell, Diamond to represent US-2 in Bermuda Bowl|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h7|pc|c3|pc|h3|pg|| nt|pelu: sh have played @s8 now bloced|pg|| nt|panja: onloy about 3 teams....|pg|| nt|rcerreto: IMO, in Italy we jave 4 *very* strong pairs: Lauria-Versace, Duboin-Sementa, Bocchi-Madala, Fantoni-Nunes|pg|| nt|rcerreto: they usually group in 2 teams|pg|| nt|rcerreto: and what you're left with is 3rd place|pg|| nt|rv: in recent summer nationals at Aurangabad, Texan Aces didn't even qualify for even QFs, Formidables havequalified only once in last 8 editions of HCL|pg|| nt|rcerreto: in the long run is a little annoying|pg|| nt|rcerreto: but you have to admire their skills|pg|| nt|rcerreto: it's not their fault being so strong :)|pg|| nt|benjy: Back to this room guys!|pg|| nt|rv: our top 3 teams are clearly better than rest, but not that much better than say CV Rao, Arun Jain, Poddar Developers (possibly teams 4-6)|pg|| pc|h5|nt|pelu: good news for danish kibs : 14 IMP for Denmark now 75-65 - I am neutral - but not when Denmark are playing :):)|pg|| nt|rcerreto: yes boss!!|pg|| nt|rv: yes back to bridge here|pg|| nt|benjy: I think we are all agreed that Italy is rather strong|pg|| pc|sJ|nt|sunsamvar: playing for @H lenght with S|pg|| pc|sA|pc|h6|pg|| pc|d7|nt|sunsamvar: well pld|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: and well bid|pg|| nt|jfaria: of c declarer took a security play in trumps|pg|| pc|h8|nt|bagman: West has also seen that N lead the @C2|pg|| pc|s5|pc|dQ|pg|| nt|panja: y..that is the best way to put it.....|pg|| pc|h9|pc|c6|nt|khaled_m: must ruff or endplayed|pg|| pc|s8|pc|hJ|pg|| nt|rcerreto: in the while... Caiti managed to bring home many tricks|pg|| nt|khaled_m: sorry no|pg|| pc|cA|pc|s6|pc|c2|pc|cT|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sT|pc|sQ|pc|s9|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c5|pc|hQ|pc|cJ|pg|| nt|rcerreto: not one less than he needed :)|pg|| pc|s4|pc|c8|pc|s7|pc|sK|pg|| pg|| qx|o26|st||md|4SQ872H7542DA8CAK5,SAKJTHKJ96DT76C73,S94HA3D5432CT9842,S653HQT8DKQJ9CQJ6|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|buddyshah: Re|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|sA|nt|buddyshah: that was some pass|pg|| nt|bagman: If S can make the @SQ, he might make this|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: this will increse the Texan lead and might seal the match|pg|| nt|psyck: likely @h shift now after E discourages @s|pg|| nt|bagman: more probable is that this goes one (or more) down; W might even kill the dummy with @HK|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s6|pc|s2|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: 1HK IS A GREAT DEF|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: @hk|pg|| nt|buddyshah: In pairs Guptaji and Dadhi doing well to remain in top 30|pg|| nt|buddyshah: for live pairs results.... http://b.poznan2011.pl/op/op1.html|pg|| nt|khaled_m: 6 tricks 1 down|pg|| pc|hK|nt|khaled_m: hm|pg|| nt|bagman: S no liking this development|pg|| nt|psyck: only the top 4 now for sure|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h8|pc|h2|pg|| nt|bagman: might end up with his 4 tops now|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hA|pc|hT|pc|h4|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pc|c3|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h9|pc|s9|pc|hQ|pg|| nt|khaled_m: great defence|pg|| nt|bagman: @DK now to mark the rest of the defense|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: In this session the minor honours of the minor suits seem to be stacked with east|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|buddyshah: This will extend the lead and work cut out for TEam Patane.|pg|| pc|d8|nt|buddyshah: shastreeji u r missed in commentary :)|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d2|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s7|pc|sT|nt|psyck: Rusinov @dQ i suppose|pg|| pc|c2|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|d3|pc|s3|pc|h7|pg|| nt|panja: @HJ squeezed partner|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: the European Championship seem to be lucky for the Texans.. they seem to come out with all guns blazing|pg|| nt|psyck: Weak NT cost in deal 1 & this deal for Patane|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: we in India hope that they will go all the way this year|pg|| pc|sK|nt|psyck: Texans have won Bronze & Silver in previous Euro opens, so they are certainly a strong contender|pg|| pc|c4|pc|d9|pc|s8|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|c8|pc|dJ|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d4|pc|dK|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c7|pc|c9|pc|c6|pg|| pc|c5|pc|dT|pc|d5|pc|cJ|pg|| nt|buddyshah: For kib interest, Texan aces were runner ups in 2008/9 and then semifinalists......... the composition of the team has changed a bit. but performance i must say ...|pg|| nt|buddyshah: thy need to tighten up more.|pg|| nt|psyck: 7 imps instead of 9|pg|| pg|| qx|c26|st||md|4SQ872H7542DA8CAK5,SAKJTHKJ96DT76C73,S94HA3D5432CT9842,S653HQT8DKQJ9CQJ6|sv|b|nt|rv: looks like flat board, cold 4@s here|pg|| nt|jfaria: another slam coming|pg|| nt|rcerreto: 3 boards to go and Patane badly needing for a swing|pg|| nt|panja: tricky hand for EW...|pg|| nt|rv: this match is still very close, one of these partials or even OT could make a difference in the end|pg|| nt|panja: 2@H will work well...2Nt will not|pg|| mb|p|nt|rv: time to catch up on coffee/smoke|pg|| mb|1C|nt|barbyh: another easy game|pg|| mb|d|nt|sunsamvar: much easier to bid this|pg|| mb|2C|nt|pelu: missed the - hard - game in OR|pg|| nt|rv: Pattacini has tricky bid here|pg|| nt|benjy: what would you guys bid as east?|pg|| nt|rcerreto: what wd you bid in E?|pg|| nt|rcerreto: dbl? 2@d?|pg|| nt|benjy: X|pg|| nt|panja: East will find it difficult not to invite..|pg|| nt|rv: I might double|pg|| nt|benjy: too strong for 2@D i think|pg|| nt|rcerreto: 2NT?|pg|| mb|2N|nt|jfaria: even 6nt is a make, i think, but @d better|pg|| mb|p|nt|benjy: but if you X and pd bids 2@H do you sit it or correct to 2NT?|pg|| mb|p|nt|sunsamvar: anyone for bidding 2@C with the East hand insted of 1@S|pg|| mb|p|pc|cK|nt|rv: double and correct to 2n|pg|| pc|c3|nt|sunsamvar: tough lead for N|pg|| nt|rcerreto: the problem with dbl is that, after 2@h, you feel forced to bid 2NT|pg|| nt|rcerreto: and then pd could think you've 4@s|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c6|pg|| nt|rv: Balicki's 4@c shows auto splinter with good 6+@s|pg|| nt|pelu: looks like Israel are pulling away|pg|| nt|lechcold: 3N works...it's probably end of Ericas hopes:(|pg|| nt|Walddk4: 4@H would too; both depending on a favourable heart position|pg|| nt|benjy: well you could raise 2@D to 3@D if he bid it|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c7|nt|barbyh: 4 h, or 4 sp all roads lead to 11 tricks|pg|| nt|bagman: The defense needs to cash the @CA after the diamond lead|pg|| pc|c4|nt|barbyh: or 12 if the dont cash|pg|| pc|cJ|pg|| nt|benjy: no you would bid 2@S with that|pg|| pc|c5|nt|bagman: Declarer might win this in dummy and lead a diamond|pg|| nt|rcerreto: unclear|pg|| pc|d6|nt|sunsamvar: lucky for West.. wd have been a guess on th @H lead|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cQ|pg|| nt|rv: Texans need a big swing in the next couple of boards to reduce the deficit and believe they have a chance, also carry a bit of momentum into second segment|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dA|nt|jfaria: was just saying that a kib sugested 6@d would be in danger after a @c lead|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d2|pg|| nt|barbyh: pretty hardto lead a clubnow|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: but to be honest i wd lead a @C too... not give anything away|pg|| nt|rcerreto: 10-11HCP with 4 weak spades, for instance...|pg|| nt|rcerreto: this sequences are like skating on thin ice|pg|| nt|benjy: Every partnership should have these sequences sorted out|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h6|pc|hA|pc|h8|pg|| nt|bagman: Declarer now has the entries to ruff the diamond and to take the rest|pg|| nt|benjy: they are relatively common after all|pg|| mc|7|nt|rv: 1 down now, these boards and contracts will suit Texans fine now that they have lead|pg|| nt|vugraphplc: small break|pg|| nt|rv: this table is playing quite fast|pg|| nt|benjy: The more i think about it the more i dislike 2nt with such a poor stopper, sure its right on values, but partner passes with a 4441 minimum and you are in a terrible spot|pg|| nt|panja: true..if the dbl can be light....East should consider a pass, too.....there might be a % to that....with a 4333 aceless hand|pg|| nt|rv: double and then 2n gets other suits in and not so bullish about strain, partner could correct to 3@d or even rebid weak 5M|pg|| nt|khaled_m: will return after about 1 hour|pg|| nt|benjy: How on earth can you pass Panja?|pg|| nt|panja: well, it is a % issue...|pg|| nt|panja: opps certainly have about 13-17 HCP...|pg|| pg|| qx|o27|st||md|1SKQ986HKQ964DQCJ8,ST2HAT87DAKJ63CK4,SJ75HJ52DT52CAT93,SA43H3D9874CQ7652|sv|o|nt|ritong: no big deal as long as gap is over 12|pg|| nt|buddyshah: hi henry|pg|| mb|1S|nt|ritong: hi guys|pg|| nt|rv: anyone has idea about draw bracket? whom will Texans meet assuming they win this?|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: keysad was pushed to 3@S in other room|pg|| mb|d|mb|2S|nt|rv: bonjour Henri|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: right now they are seeded 2.. shd be meeting seed 7 i suppose|pg|| mb|3C|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dA|nt|bagman: Declarer likely to loose the same 2x@H +one each as in the other room|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d9|pc|dQ|pg|| nt|rv: a spec pointing out they will meet Wrang and that winner to meet winner of Lavazza and Mahaffey in top half of draw|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|d4|nt|buddyshah: looks like 5 to patane. but last board looks Flat|pg|| pc|s6|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s2|nt|bagman: looks like flat|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sA|pg|| nt|rv: top 8 teams in Swiss A are apparently top 8 seeds, in that case Wrang should be 1st, Kamras 2nd who are in bottom half of draw|pg|| pc|h3|nt|vicky888: Are the qurterfinals scheduled to play today itself?|pg|| pc|h9|nt|rv: 14x2 QFs and SFs tomorrow|pg|| nt|rv: 14x3 finals on Wed|pg|| nt|buddyshah: 7 coming.?|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h5|pc|s3|pc|h4|pg|| pc|d7|pc|s9|pc|dJ|pc|dT|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sT|pc|s5|pc|s4|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|d3|pc|s7|nt|rv: Please access http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/or16runda1.html for running scores,apparently tables 1-4 are top half of draw and tables 5-8 bottom half of draw|pg|| pc|d8|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h8|pc|hJ|pc|c2|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hT|pc|c3|pc|c5|pg|| pc|h6|pc|d6|pc|c9|pc|c6|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c4|pc|cA|pc|c7|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cQ|pc|cJ|pc|cK|pg|| pg|| qx|c27|st||md|1SKQ986HKQ964DQCJ8,ST2HAT87DAKJ63CK4,SJ75HJ52DT52CAT93,SA43H3D9874CQ7652|sv|o|nt|bagman: S had lead the trump and E played diamond back; it surely looked to S that the trump lead was good and another trump was now required|pg|| nt|lechcold: 10 tricks in Spades available here|pg|| nt|benjy: Partner has asked you to bid as a passed hand and you have a maximum and you say nothing - madness in my view|pg|| mb|1S|mb|d|nt|hawe45: But this just another dull 3 NT|pg|| mb|2S|nt|rv: yes another flat board and very little possibility for any swing|pg|| mb|3C|nt|lechcold: Israel can not lose this match |pg|| mb|3S|nt|barbyh: notif declarer has the heart ace|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|barbyh: why? nothing to lose by playing a diamond|pg|| nt|bagman: I think that E put S to a tough spot and it was reasonable for S to play a trump; I'm not sure it it was the best single dummy but surely it was a possible play|pg|| nt|bagman: In guessing situations, people guess wrong|pg|| nt|bagman: at least sometimes|pg|| nt|barbyh: if declarer has theheart ace then its a losing play|pg|| nt|barbyh: can gain nothing|pg|| pc|dA|nt|lechcold: 3@D was probably sort of Bergen raise|pg|| nt|rv: here Anklesaria's 3@s is just competitive, he would have doubled or bid NS as help suit game try|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d8|nt|sunsamvar: def have to establish the @C trick|pg|| pc|dQ|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: now an entry short to establish @S|pg|| nt|pfbr: wd tuna @h|pg|| nt|jfaria: test|pg|| nt|jfaria: B thinking|pg|| nt|rv: maybe after West's double, he could have chosen to pass 3@c with @h length|pg|| pc|cK|nt|benjy: It's a normal 3@S bid for me|pg|| nt|rv: as cards are it was right to defend though I have benefit of looking at all 52 cards from my vantage position:)|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|c8|pg|| nt|benjy: passing with such shape is only right because partner has such great @Cs|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cA|nt|lechcold: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/or32runda1.html|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cJ|pg|| nt|lechcold: running scores again|pg|| nt|benjy: if he had xxx then bidding would be right|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s3|nt|rv: I believe in official scoreboard, Monaco Z have bid and made 3n with OT as well, hence Texans could actually be trailing by 33 IMPs here once scores are compared|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s2|pg|| nt|rv: at the table I would have bid 3@s as well though there is case for passing after LHO's double|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sT|nt|jfaria: smoke is clearing defence will prevail|pg|| pc|sJ|nt|rv: Zimmerman-Multon have bid and made 3n on brd 8 according to running scores|pg|| pc|sA|pg|| nt|rv: we need to wait for final confirmed scores|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h4|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h5|pc|s4|pc|h6|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o28|st||md|2S8HQ98762DJ943CK7,SK96543HJDK765CAT,SAQJTHA4D8CQJ9652,S72HKT53DAQT2C843|sv|n|nt|rv: if that is true, Texans vs Wrang, Mahaffey vs Lavazza in top half QFs|pg|| mb|1S|mb|2C|mb|d|mb|p|nt|buddyshah: CONGRATULATIONS in Store unless E-w do something drastic................ |pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ritong: yes, great|pg|| nt|bagman: If EW stay out of 1400, they win this|pg|| nt|buddyshah: GREAT vugraph, thanks to our operator.|pg|| nt|psyck: Thanks all.|pg|| nt|rv: Texans love affair with this tourney continues|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: lively game.. wd texans|pg|| nt|buddyshah: I have been an operator and i know how it is.|pg|| nt|rv: they won silver 4 yrs back after coming 5th in repechage and going all the way to finals, they reached semis 2 yrs back after winning an appeal and 4 brds tie-breaker against ...|pg|| nt|rv: strong Polish team in R32|pg|| mb|p|nt|rv: maybe, just maybe they will all the...|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|bagman: the result here does not matter; can we see something good in the defense or declarer play?|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c7|pc|cA|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sT|pc|s2|pc|s8|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|cT|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pc|h3|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c8|nt|buddyshah: Looks like TExans playing Wrang|pg|| pc|h2|nt|bagman: The heart switch was good as it prevented N from ducking with Ax|pg|| pc|s4|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d8|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg|| pc|s7|pc|h7|nt|sunsamvar: tx all. GN and Cheers to the boys from the Wild Wild West|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|c9|pc|h5|pc|h8|nt|bagman: thx all, bye for now|pg|| pc|s6|pg|| pc|d6|pc|h4|pc|dQ|pc|d4|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h9|pc|d7|pc|sQ|pg|| nt|buddyshah: Great competition, i think the experience proved better today over youth, but nice Match.|pg|| pc|sA|pc|d2|pc|d9|pc|s9|pg|| pc|c2|pc|dT|pc|dJ|pc|sK|pg|| pc|dK|pc|c5|pc|hT|pc|hQ|pg|| nt|vugraphpl1: thanks|pg|| nt|vugraphpl1: see yoy|pg|| nt|vugraphpl1: you|pg|| nt|buddyshah: ty all|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: and Meckwell or Lavazza in the SF if they win the QF... LATE NIGHT TROW TOO GUYS|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: TX ALL|pg|| nt|vugraphpl1: bye bye|pg|| pg|| qx|c28|st||md|2S8HQ98762DJ943CK7,SK96543HJDK765CAT,SAQJTHA4D8CQJ9652,S72HKT53DAQT2C843|sv|n|nt|barbyh: can they get to 6 diamonds?|pg|| nt|rv: have played|pg|| nt|rv: in any case Texans won't mind these boards and would be hoping for a flat last brd as well, all Italians and neutrals would love swingy last deal though:)|pg|| nt|rcerreto: last board|pg|| nt|rcerreto: chances for a swing here?|pg|| nt|benjy: e/w can make a fair frew tricks in @Ds|pg|| nt|rcerreto: but will maybe play in @s|pg|| nt|rv: N-S can make more in @hs?|pg|| nt|panja: 20-20 HCP...|pg|| mb|1S|nt|bagman: NS could have successfully competed to 3@H but they took the kiss of dementor, 200, instead|pg|| nt|jfaria: good result in closed for Vito|pg|| nt|jfaria: open , mean|pg|| mb|2C|nt|sunsamvar: 3 nt also making|pg|| mb|d|nt|rv: butler scores of all pairs as well as score-sheets of all matches can be viewed at http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg|| nt|panja: 3@C good for NS|pg|| nt|benjy: i'm not sure thats true about more in @H on a trump lead?|pg|| mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|nt|barbyh: why whats worse than that?|pg|| nt|rv: 1@h is transfer to @s, Venkatesh's 2@h is risky proposition|pg|| nt|rv: yes @c strain plays better for N-S|pg|| mb|p|nt|rv: this is 500 territory if Balicki passes|pg|| nt|jfaria: dont think N will pass|pg|| nt|jfaria: after receiving a fit in the 6th suit|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: did S have a free bid and once he has North will bid 4 @S|pg|| mb|p|pc|cQ|nt|pelu: ok last board gratilation to Israel - and tx to our great operator, my fellow commentators and to many very active kibs -|pg|| nt|benjy: thoughts on the 2@S rebid?|pg|| nt|rv: this is 1 down on normal @c lead|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg|| nt|benjy: 2@D is normal for me|pg|| nt|rv: my preference is to treat @s suit as 5 bagger and much prefer 2@d|pg|| nt|rcerreto: I?d rather rebid a 6 card major than a 4 card minor|pg|| nt|panja: this could go 2 down, could it not?|pg|| nt|panja: no...@HK will offer a @D discard|pg|| nt|benjy: after 2@C if partner hasn't bid 2@H with 5 then he rates to hold 4@D quite often i think|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sT|nt|bagman: S hand is typical where one bids 3NT and waits for the dummy to appear|pg|| nt|barbyh: northcould have save the day by bidding 4 sp|pg|| nt|barbyh: thats if he felt lucky|pg|| nt|eamongall: At another table McGann Brown left opps in 5@Ds ...not best matchpoint effort by NS board 14 |pg|| nt|barbyh: odds are pd has a good minor|pg|| nt|bagman: Some NS have reached 4@H making; S has probably doubled and N felt that nobody plays minors in pairs|pg|| nt|bagman: and why play 6@D when 6N is an as easy make |pg|| pc|s2|nt|rv: with 3 trumps, Balicki didn't want to take any chance especially in the context of good set they have had at this table|pg|| pc|s8|pg|| nt|lechcold: tx all, bye|pg|| nt|jfaria: 8 tricks to get a plus |pg|| nt|rcerreto: it could but it shouldn't|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c4|nt|sunsamvar: a kib says "Spasov is 22 years old boy and is one of the best junior players in Bulgaria :) "|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: last bd here.|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cT|pg|| nt|jfaria: first guess wrong|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: shd have @D till later i feel|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: and pld trump from hand|pg|| nt|jfaria: wanted a quick entry to play @s from dummy...|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: Tx Joao... been a pleasure commentating wityh you.|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c8|nt|rv: if quality of @s suit was better, I would bid 2@s instead of 2@d, here I will go with 2@d|pg|| pc|h2|nt|pelu: and again : spec tx to the polish IT-staff - they are doing a great job for us and bridgeplayers all over the world - TX|pg|| pc|s3|pg|| nt|rv: this is last board of first segment, big thanks to Vugraph operator Ilya, my excellent co-commentator Ilya and all specs for patiently listening to us and their insightful comments|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: Tx to our wonderful operator at the venue and the organisers|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d8|pc|dQ|nt|rv: next segment starts in approx 40 mins, we are likely to have a new set of matches depending on closeness |pg|| pc|d3|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: and to BBO and Roland for bringinging us this entertaining broadcast|pg|| nt|jfaria: pleasure was mine, thx|pg|| pc|s7|pc|h6|pc|s4|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|c2|pc|h3|nt|khaled_m: 1 down I guess|pg|| pc|h7|pc|s6|pg|| nt|rv: I suspect Texan Aces should about get home barring any disaster in OR|pg|| nt|panja: two minimum now....|pg|| pc|d6|nt|rv: big thanks to all my fellow commentators, Vugraph operator and all specs for patiently listening to us and insightful comments|pg|| mc|7|nt|rv: thanks all, bye|pg|| nt|benjy: thanks all|pg|| nt|panja: thx all, bye|pg|| nt|rcerreto: thank everybody|pg|| nt|rcerreto: bye|pg|| nt|othered1: Thanks everyone and bye|pg|| pg||