vg|C EC 2011 Open Teams 16 _,2_2,I,15,28,Kopecky,22,Netherlands White,41|
rs|2DSx-2,3NE+1,1NW-2,4HN+1,2SE+1,2SE+1,3DE+2,3DE+2,4HW=,4HW=,5CS+1,6CN+1,4HE+2,6CE-1,4HE=,4HE=,2SN-1,2SS-1,2NE+1,3NW=,3HS-2,3NW-2,1NS-3,3NE-1,3SS=,3DW+1,2SW-1,4CN-1|
pn|Kurka,Jansma,Kopecky,Paulissen,Verhees,Ritmeijer,Prooijen,Macura|pg||
qx|o15|st||md|1ST93HQ5DAQ854CA97,S8762H9873DJCKQ42,SJ54HJT62D7632CT3,SAKQHAK4DKT9CJ865|sv|n|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|2D|mb|d|mb|p|nt|roswolf: hi markku|pg||
nt|roswolf: west's dbl for t/o|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|dJ|nt|runnerup: ..ey sorry|pg||
pc|d2|nt|roswolf: :) an aggressive pass for blood by east|pg||
pc|dK|pc|dA|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|runnerup: ns got to problems because weak nt -it happens but found at least 9 card fit|pg||
pc|s2|pc|d3|pc|d9|pg||
nt|roswolf: looks -2 in top losers but where are declarer's tricks?|pg||
mc|6|pg||
qx|c15|st||md|1ST93HQ5DAQ854CA97,S8762H9873DJCKQ42,SJ54HJT62D7632CT3,SAKQHAK4DKT9CJ865|sv|n|nt|hedyg: good evening and welcome back to the 5th European Open Championships, Poznan, Poland. A Swiss teams ,Round 2/7, 10 boards / round|pg||
nt|chick: Hello Everyone :)|pg||
mb|1D!|mb|p|nt|toral5: fantunes here,lauria-versace,balicki-zmudniski.pleasure to watch them all|pg||
nt|danilo1: Hi Sapan, Tom, Hedy ... and of course, Specs|pg||
nt|toral5: hi danilo|pg||
mb|1H|mb|d|mb|p|mb|1S|nt|ballebodk: i slow start 7cl/7d :) can they bid that ?|pg||
nt|toral5: hedy has an indepth idea of fantunes methods which will help us understand it more|pg||
nt|hedyg: our operator is Joanna|pg||
mb|p|nt|toral5: NOT a bad brd to begin with.just a grand:)|pg||
nt|hedyg: EW CC: http://www.ecatsbridge.org/documents/files/ConventionCards/2009BermudaBowlBrazil/bermudabowl/italy/fantoni-nunes.pdf|pg||
mb|2N|mb|p|nt|danilo1: let us check methods immediatelly ... 7 is percenage good |pg||
nt|hedyg: results and running scores: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswleaderb.html|pg||
mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|danilo1: ... and 7NT best ... |pg||
nt|toral5: west will take control once @D are matched.2 singletons are super assets|pg||
nt|chick: with no entry in the North hand, this should roll home easily|pg||
pc|d5|nt|toral5: for a pair like fantunes 7nt is par|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d2|pc|d9|pg||
nt|ballebodk: all players in this room are playing strong club so lets se how they do against each other, maybe we non clubbers can learn something !|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s5|pc|sQ|pc|s3|pg||
nt|hedyg: NS CC: http://www.ecatsbridge.org/documents/files/ConventionCards/2010Ostend-european/OpenTeams/denmark/bjarnarson-askgaard.pdf|pg||
pc|sA|nt|toral5: u sure fantunes play strong @C?|pg||
pc|s9|pc|s6|pc|s4|pg||
nt|hedyg: 1@c= 14+ nat or 15+ balanced|pg||
nt|danilo1: ideal for key-card with specific Kings ... but I think Fantunes play someting different|pg||
nt|toral5: :)|pg||
nt|hedyg: 2@d= gf with 5+@ds|pg||
nt|hedyg: 2@H relay|pg||
nt|toral5: ew play turbo|pg||
pc|sK|nt|hedyg: 3@D some more @ds|pg||
nt|toral5: dont think 4nt was rkcb|pg||
pc|sT|pc|s7|nt|toral5: here comes the grand|pg||
nt|danilo1: @CK is vital card |pg||
pc|sJ|pg||
pc|c5|nt|hedyg: yes after 4@s 4NT= even number of keycards (0 is even)|pg||
nt|toral5: yes|pg||
pc|c7|pc|cK|nt|toral5: i thought fantoni with @C kj will himself bid 7|pg||
pc|c3|pg||
nt|toral5: was trump q denied?|pg||
nt|ballebodk: maybe they miss DQ - i can be hard to se the 7-3 fit in D !|pg||
nt|toral5: i am sure nunes would be discouraged to bid a grand in a 7-2 fit without the q|pg||
nt|danilo1: he does not see 7-card @D ... West must have full control ... and he need to know @CK ... do not know how in their methods he shouls ask for it |pg||
nt|toral5: kxx with fantoni probably not disclosed|pg||
nt|hedyg: i dont know what 5@c was, i believe cuebid|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cT|nt|ballebodk: its normally a little to much poker to bid a slam missing trumf Qxxxx - you will have some good moments but also some bad - so its the best strategi to have trumf Q|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|cA|pg||
nt|toral5: fantoni can be as little as kx @D and max|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|h4|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h7|nt|cenglund:  Hi all|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|o16|st||md|2ST8532HKJ9D963CQJ,SQ6HQ6DAKJ874CK82,SAKJHAT732D5CA764,S974H854DQT2CT953|sv|e|nt|roswolf: well quick but still bloody - weak nt's vul v nt are a sort of fielder's choice for defence|pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|roswolf: here a strong nt may come to grief but safety in the 6 card diamond suit|pg||
nt|runnerup: good thing last hand was that 3nt goes home -so lost some 2-3 imps only if bidden and it should  |pg||
nt|roswolf: 12 tricks in defence here on perfect defence|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|hK|pc|h6|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|h5|pg||
nt|runnerup: j was costly|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s4|nt|roswolf: now cash the spades|pg||
pc|s8|pc|s6|pg||
pc|hT|pc|h8|pc|h9|nt|roswolf: ahh a pinprick|pg||
nt|runnerup: ok -no if they handle it and they do -so still ..|pg||
nt|roswolf: -4 perhaps|pg||
nt|runnerup: ns makes game in major/s so lost now insteadt off goog win with perfect defence|pg||
pc|d8|pg||
pc|h7|nt|roswolf: may lose an imp or 2|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d9|pc|d7|pg||
pc|h3|pc|dT|pc|d3|pc|c8|pg||
pc|d5|pc|dQ|pc|d6|pc|dA|pg||
pc|dK|pc|c7|pc|s7|nt|roswolf: north should know what is going on unbelieveanle|pg||
pc|s3|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|c4|pc|s9|pc|s2|pg||
pc|d4|pc|sJ|pc|c3|pc|s5|pg||
nt|roswolf: north just throwing away winners -crazy|pg||
mc|5|nt|runnerup: these 1nt openings vulnerable will make actions to boards |pg||
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qx|c16|st||md|2ST8532HKJ9D963CQJ,SQ6HQ6DAKJ874CK82,SAKJHAT732D5CA764,S974H854DQT2CT953|sv|e|nt|danilo1: good old nat ... 1@C-2@D-3@D ... and baby 7NT|pg||
mb|1D|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|nt|cenglund:  Excellent fit|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2@H is the weakest raise for Verhees|pg||
mb|4H|mb|p|nt|ballebodk: an easy 4 sp where the sits shall be faul if you have to go down |pg||
nt|hedyg: only 1 entry to dummy for the @s finesse but np with Kx|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|cenglund:  It did not discourage the partner|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: yes, hi everyone...|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|cenglund:  Hi Tony|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: Hi Christer,...|pg||
nt|ahollan1: very thoughtful @DQ  lead|pg||
nt|cenglund:  All the honours are working|pg||
pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|d5|pg||
nt|toral5: will they bid it?|pg||
nt|ballebodk: that was the problem - to bid it :)|pg||
nt|danilo1: here neither long (3@C) nor shorth (3@D) trial get 4@S answer by pd|pg||
pc|dA|nt|toral5: south is min with the worst shape 4333 and 3d would have demotivated him with tht wastage in @D k|pg||
nt|hedyg: EW in CR bid the grand on bd 21|pg||
nt|toral5: ohh|pg||
nt|danilo1: still I like Asgaards trial much more than 4@S |pg||
nt|danilo1: especially NV|pg||
nt|toral5: so a 10 imp pick up in the 1st brd itself|pg||
nt|ballebodk: Brd 21 - yehhh - DK we love you :)|pg||
pc|h2|pc|d2|pc|d6|pg||
nt|cenglund:  This is going to be a piece of cake|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: Hi Al and Cornelia|pg||
nt|ahollan1: IF Ritmeijer wanted a shift he would have let Macura hold trick 1|pg||
pc|h3|nt|hedyg: totally impartial Tom? :p|pg||
pc|h4|pc|hK|pc|h6|pg||
nt|chick: perhaps even a couple of overtricks|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|ballebodk: normally yes but in this match: NO|pg||
nt|toral5: where do we find the running scores\?|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c3|pg||
nt|danilo1: actually, not sure how good contract 4@S really is .. it is just lucky here (possible @C ruff, @S king off-side or even more than Doubleton on-side) |pg||
pc|c6|pc|c5|pc|cQ|pc|c2|pg||
nt|hedyg: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswleaderb.html|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|sA|pc|s4|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c9|pc|h9|pc|c8|pg||
pc|s3|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|s7|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: interesting decition in OR on 15 to defend 2 diamonds doubled|pg||
pc|c7|pc|cT|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|h7|pc|dT|pc|d9|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|s5|pc|d4|pg||
pc|hT|pc|h8|pc|s8|pc|d7|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s9|pc|sT|pc|d8|pg||
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qx|o17|st||md|3ST543HK9DKJTCQJ64,SK9HT7D86532CA752,SA2HJ852DQ94CKT93,SQJ876HAQ643DA7C8|sv|o|nt|roswolf: kopecky seemingly giving up|pg||
mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|khaled_m: Probably will go 1 down. on correct defense|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|roswolf: the dutch have enough of a lead to sit back and let their opps self destruct|pg||
pc|cA|nt|khaled_m: If declarer goes on cross ruff will make|pg||
nt|runnerup: strengt even -east having wildness so normal loking cotrract -firht for making but looks makeable|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c8|pg||
pc|h7|pc|h2|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg||
nt|khaled_m: club return will help declarer|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c2|nt|roswolf: spade ducked is trickier|pg||
pc|cK|pc|s6|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h9|pc|hT|pc|h5|pg||
pc|h4|pc|dJ|pc|s9|pc|h8|pg||
nt|khaled_m: ! should discard club|pg||
nt|runnerup: now he is somehow forced to make it|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c9|pc|s7|pc|c6|pg||
pc|dA|pc|dK|pc|d2|pc|d4|pg||
pc|h3|pc|cJ|pc|sK|pc|hJ|pg||
pc|c7|pc|cT|pc|d7|pc|dT|pg||
nt|khaled_m: 2 for each side|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s8|pc|s3|pc|d3|pg||
pc|s2|mc|9|nt|roswolf: not impressed|pg||
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qx|c17|st||md|3ST543HK9DKJTCQJ64,SK9HT7D86532CA752,SA2HJ852DQ94CKT93,SQJ876HAQ643DA7C8|sv|o|nt|danilo1: ... and + @H must not be 3-3 ... so 3@S is more than correct|pg||
mb|p|mb|1S|nt|ballebodk: its nice to see our strongest pair in DK against one of the strongest pairs in the world - so i will look at with very red/white glasses :)|pg||
mb|p|mb|1N!|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|nt|toral5: any 1 for 6@S?|pg||
mb|2S|mb|p|nt|hedyg: we might need to get an Italian commentator too then LOL|pg||
nt|danilo1: next methods test?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: NS upside-down count & attitude   odd/even 1st discard|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|hedyg: 1NT= 12-14|pg||
nt|ballebodk: i think the last word should be spect... something, but i cant spell to it :( |pg||
pc|cQ|nt|wilkinsona: reluctant pass from East looks well judged...|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c3|nt|danilo1: 3NT probably shows 4@S-4@C|pg||
pc|c8|pg||
nt|hedyg: i think 3NT shows a hand with no ambitions|pg||
nt|toral5: 3c i guess was the old bookish extended stayman on which 3nt showed 4@S+4@C|pg||
nt|hedyg: 4234|pg||
nt|danilo1: no @H cue ... is Fulvio's hand safe for one more bid (with possible 12 at pd)|pg||
pc|hT|pc|h2|nt|hedyg: no of course it isnt! you might well get a @H lead threw K@H to AQ|pg||
nt|hedyg: obviously going higher is not safe|pg||
pc|h3|pc|hK|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c2|nt|toral5: match will be virtually over if denmark bids this slam in the other room|pg||
nt|danilo1: looks like another slam easier to find in NAT ... 1@C-1@D-1@S-2@H-3@D-3@S ... etc|pg||
pc|cK|pc|s6|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h9|nt|ballebodk: the slam is very diff. to bid - but its a  good one to be in - when the trumfs behave 3-2 its well over 70%|pg||
pc|h7|nt|toral5: fulvios biggest worry would have been @H king on table|pg||
pc|h5|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|cenglund:  Well played so far|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|d2|pc|h8|pg||
pc|h4|pc|c6|pc|s9|pc|hJ|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|dA|pc|dT|pg||
pc|h6|pc|dK|pc|sK|nt|cenglund:  Very nice indeed|pg||
pc|sA|pg||
pc|c9|pc|s8|pc|sT|pc|c5|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d5|pc|dQ|pc|d7|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|o18|st||md|4S862HK73D63CAKJ42,SJ74HADJ98752CT97,SKT953HQ642DKCQ86,SAQHJT985DAQT4C53|sv|n|nt|roswolf: anything may happen on this one|pg||
mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2D|an| |nt|runnerup: ew has @d game with less that half off the point -lucky game ofcause|pg||
mb|p|nt|roswolf: shouldnt bid it - but the dutch are on a roll|pg||
mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|runnerup: ..points still 19 not 1/2   |pg||
pc|cK|pc|c7|pc|c8|pc|c3|pg||
nt|roswolf: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/or16runda1.html|pg||
nt|roswolf: for running scores in the open|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c9|pc|c6|pc|c5|pg||
pc|s8|pc|s4|mc|11|pg||
qx|c18|st||md|4S862HK73D63CAKJ42,SJ74HADJ98752CT97,SKT953HQ642DKCQ86,SAQHJT985DAQT4C53|sv|n|nt|toral5: another slam hand|pg||
mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S!|nt|ahollan1: i know the NS system   so of course EW will open all of the hands|pg||
mb|p|mb|2D!|nt|danilo1: well, no missing slams in this set of boards :) ... next one|pg||
nt|ballebodk: but to be realistic - i dont think that the danish ew can do the job - otherweise i will really kipp with our flag !|pg||
nt|toral5: 3 slams in 4 brds is super|pg||
nt|hedyg: plus 5 teams from the B Swiss|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: seems a good system..|pg||
mb|p|nt|danilo1: ... and all very good (percentage slams)|pg||
nt|toral5: this 3s will encourage south a lot|pg||
nt|toral5: 3s opp a minimum and south has much more than that|pg||
nt|hedyg: 1 level overcalls can be quite weak, esp by passed hands|pg||
nt|ballebodk: yes KQx in spade infront of shortage - do they play it as void i wonder ?|pg||
nt|toral5: kqx might discourage south|pg||
nt|danilo1: 3@S will first not impress South, but when East bids 4@S (probable), he may visualise ruffing finess ... |pg||
nt|hedyg: he has an easy 3NT bid, if Fantoni passes|pg||
nt|toral5: but if 1@D promised @D,south might be encouraged|pg||
mb|3D|nt|danilo1: will Fulvio be on same wave - and not bid 4@S?|pg||
nt|toral5: most likely finesses IF needed will work after 1s|pg||
nt|hedyg: a 4@s bid by E is an invitation to slam for opps|pg||
nt|hedyg: voila|pg||
nt|hedyg: the man has played before|pg||
nt|ballebodk: i really disagree - 3NT ? - when you have a 9card fit in h - we are not playing pair !|pg||
nt|danilo1: 3NT! - best bid for South .. leave Space - and shows @S values|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: it is a modified version of  Ekeblad's  Ultimate Canape|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|cK|nt|hedyg: hey 3NT is not final, but it sure describes his hand which is what his pd is asking for|pg||
nt|cenglund:  5D is making, but getting there seems to be a problem|pg||
pc|c7|nt|danilo1: 3NT is not with idea to play there - just to show what he has|pg||
nt|hedyg: as i wrote above, it is not a final bid|pg||
nt|toral5: 3nt can never be good.interchange the minor king and 3nt is dead on a @S lead|pg||
nt|ballebodk: i think that 3nt should show at least 2 stoppers in sp, eg: KQ10x, EKx, and not 1 stopper|pg||
nt|hedyg: Sapan! of course N would never pass 3NT!|pg||
nt|danilo1: to note ... Excellent pass over 3@S by Fulvio|pg||
nt|toral5: why so?|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c3|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: seems difficult to modify an ultimate system|pg||
nt|ahollan1: alert of 1@S  as "Kaplan Inversion" ??  Edgar switched the meaning of 1N and 1@S   so 1@S was artificial  like a forcing nt|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c9|pc|c8|nt|hedyg: on a @s lead in 3NT he makes 12 tricks, on a @c lead only 11|pg||
pc|c5|pg||
pc|s6|nt|hedyg: so i guess there are worse bids|pg||
nt|toral5: as the cards are yes|pg||
pc|s7|pc|s9|pc|sQ|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: 5 diamonds a bit lucky tho'|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|dK|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d6|pc|d5|mc|11|nt|cenglund:  yes, spade finesse including no diamond loser|pg||
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qx|o19|st||md|1SJ3HT832DJ762CQ42,S98HAK7654DKQCKT7,S7654HJDA4CAJ9863,SAKQT2HQ9DT9853C5|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|2C|mb|2S|nt|roswolf: a courtesy raise from south?|pg||
mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4C|mb|p|nt|roswolf: 4@H via a slam try|pg||
mb|4H|nt|runnerup: 4 @h looks safe but no more |pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|roswolf: yup|pg||
pc|dA|nt|roswolf: they need to cash their aces|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d6|pc|dQ|pg||
nt|runnerup: or play @s in time perhaps |pg||
nt|runnerup: west cant let south to come in|pg||
nt|runnerup: if he cashish trumps |pg||
nt|jeanhari: rehi|pg||
nt|khaled_m: very interesting|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c2|pc|c7|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d5|pc|d2|pc|dK|pg||
nt|jeanhari: west always can ruff a club|pg||
pc|h4|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|h2|pg||
pc|h9|pc|hT|pc|hA|pc|c3|pg||
mc|10|nt|roswolf: a push|pg||
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qx|c19|st||md|1SJ3HT832DJ762CQ42,S98HAK7654DKQCKT7,S7654HJDA4CAJ9863,SAKQT2HQ9DT9853C5|sv|e|nt|wilkinsona: in OR on 16 NS defended 1NT with 4 hearts (even 6) availabe|pg||
mb|p|nt|hedyg: in CR E did bid 4@s so lets see what happens now|pg||
mb|1H|mb|3C|nt|cenglund:  I noticed that the 1NT opening bid silenced N with 16 good points|pg||
mb|3S|nt|ahollan1: van Prooijen might have been thinking about 1N overcall which is Raptor  [4 of other major + long minor]|pg||
mb|4C|nt|hedyg: Greco in the tank in S|pg||
nt|ahollan1: but looks like a 1-suiter to me too|pg||
mb|p|nt|hedyg: what no slam???|pg||
mb|p|nt|hedyg: 2@H surely denies 3 cards in @s|pg||
nt|hedyg: and Greco still in the tank|pg||
mb|4D|mb|p|mb|4H|nt|danilo1: good bidding by all - for my taste|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|hedyg: 4@c now for @d|pg||
mb|p|nt|hedyg: no|pg||
nt|toral5: trump shift best|pg||
nt|ballebodk: i agree - a lots of tables will be to high - in both directions !|pg||
pc|cA|nt|wilkinsona: doubtless the pass of 4 clubs is forcing|pg||
nt|cenglund:  They landed in the best spot|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c4|pc|c7|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d7|pc|dQ|pg||
nt|cenglund:  Unfortunate lead|pg||
nt|ahollan1: in the other room Kopecky started with @DA|pg||
nt|cenglund:  On a heart lead the contract would probably fail|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d5|nt|hedyg: anddddddd Greco still in the tank over 4@s|pg||
nt|ahollan1: other tables are visible via http://www.bridgebase.com/client/vugraph.php  or  http://www.bridgebase.com/mobile/|pg||
pc|d6|pc|dK|pg||
pc|h5|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|h2|pg||
pc|h9|pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|c3|pg||
mc|10|nt|ahollan1: requires a peek to find @HJ lead|pg||
nt|cenglund:  Not necessarily in this bidding|pg||
nt|ahollan1: absolutely on this auction   EW bidding on strength, defense wants to go active, not passive|pg||
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qx|o20|st||md|2S4HQDT63CKQ987542,S862HKJ843DJ872CJ,SAKJT5HT72DAK9CA3,SQ973HA965DQ54CT6|sv|b|nt|runnerup: but has to be carefull to come back to hand north has j @h |pg||
mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|nt|roswolf: n/s need to bid this slam|pg||
nt|runnerup: biddingtest anyway |pg||
nt|roswolf: 3nt-6@C is possible|pg||
mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|nt|khaled_m: Not easy to get there. |pg||
nt|jeanhari: 3NT 5@C more realistic|pg||
mb|4C|mb|p|nt|runnerup: how can south see all aces and kings + clubsupport not easy|pg||
nt|roswolf: iwould punt it now at this match score|pg||
nt|roswolf: n/s need swings 6@C would genrate one for sure|pg||
nt|jeanhari: cant bid 4@D now I suppose|pg||
nt|jeanhari: which would make 6@C reachable|pg||
nt|roswolf: north might bid 4@H "CUE" HERE|pg||
nt|roswolf: a true ZIA bid|pg||
nt|runnerup: yes and then he has 6-5 in red .now he jumpt with 5-3 not every day|pg||
mb|5C|mb|p|nt|jeanhari: 4@H should agree clubs, not need to be a cue, most of the time it would be off course|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|roswolf: oh i think that is pathetic|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|hQ|pg||
mc|12|pg||
qx|c20|st||md|2S4HQDT63CKQ987542,S862HKJ843DJ872CJ,SAKJT5HT72DAK9CA3,SQ973HA965DQ54CT6|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1D!|mb|p|nt|hedyg: stopped in 5@H|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1@C=16+ unbal  18+ bal|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1@D=0-7|pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|nt|danilo1: good 4@S here (despite probable @S@S@S lead)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1N=18-20|pg||
mb|2S!|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: science doesn't cover bidding good 8 card suits after partner shows 18-20 bal|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: well, tricky to get to 6 clubs|pg||
mb|3C|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: start with 2@S=@C or some 3 suiter|pg||
nt|cenglund:  Maybe they play minisplinters|pg||
mb|3S|nt|danilo1: 3@S-4@S?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 3@C rejects @C invite|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 3@S=short @H|pg||
nt|ahollan1: game force with 6+@C|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: given that the N hand is now quite strong|pg||
nt|ahollan1: NOW  van Prooijen gets excited|pg||
nt|cenglund:  Sure|pg||
nt|ahollan1: indeed  no wastage in @H is huge   but still doubleton club is a concern for North|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: ..but has already expressed that concern..|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i'm not sure about which options vP has at thist point|pg||
nt|chick: game force with 6+ clubs and heart shortness means that South must have some decent values in other suits ...  clubs is the only place they can be.  North should see @CAx as ...|pg||
nt|chick: excellent support|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: so, 4 diamonds looks normal here|pg||
nt|cenglund:  Yes|pg||
mb|4D!|nt|ahollan1: but still  if only 8 card fit -- the hand probably isn't good enough to take control|pg||
mb|p|mb|6C|nt|toral5: back|pg||
nt|ballebodk: well bid - now - 10 tricks ?|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: well done|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: the other room just stopped in 5@C  so  very well done|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: so nice being able to show that strong of a hand and still be at 1N|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: on a non-@H lead  vP will take some time to find the overtrick|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: yes, whereas in OR it was the 4 level before clubs were mentioned|pg||
nt|cenglund:  This board fits well to systems with 1C strong|pg||
nt|ahollan1: and  that North had NOT shown balanced hand|pg||
nt|ahollan1: meckwell and followers might open 2N [19-20 in 1st/2nd & 3rd not vul] -- should probably still get to slam, but not as easy|pg||
pc|c6|nt|ahollan1: in fact  they're on vugraph now  but only on board 19|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pg||
nt|ballebodk: if you could order leads by mail - a club wasnt the worst :)|pg||
nt|danilo1: thk allways 10 tricks |pg||
pc|c3|pc|cT|pc|cK|pc|h3|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|cenglund:  13 tricks|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|h5|pg||
nt|danilo1: @S to keep declarer on 10|pg||
pc|c9|pc|s6|pc|h7|pc|h6|pg||
pc|c8|pc|h8|pc|hT|nt|ahollan1: i thought he'd just ruff out the @SQ -  but i'm bad at reading opponent discards on run of long suit, so i miss those opportunities|pg||
pc|h9|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s8|pc|sA|pc|s3|pg||
nt|danilo1: Fulvio knows who has @CKJ (Claudio would cash @CK having it)|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s7|pc|d3|pc|s2|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s9|pc|c4|nt|ahollan1: got there with more confidence after West pitched one @S|pg||
pc|d2|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: well, I think this is well bid by NS here and a deserved swing|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d7|pc|dA|pc|d4|pg||
pc|sT|pc|sQ|pc|c5|nt|ahollan1: makes sense -- but i forget to do that at the table|pg||
pc|hJ|pg||
pc|dT|pc|d8|pc|dK|pc|d5|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|dQ|nt|ahollan1: too right Tony|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|dJ|pg||
pc|d9|pc|hA|pc|c7|pc|hK|pg||
pg||
qx|o21|st||md|3ST653H7DT98652CK8,SJ9HAKQJ983D74C95,SQ82HT65DAKJ3C764,SAK74H42DQCAQJT32|sv|n|nt|jeanhari: Closed room had an efficient bidding to 6@C |pg||
nt|roswolf: as a contest this match is dead|pg||
mb|p|mb|1C|nt|roswolf: unless e/w bid a slam going off here|pg||
nt|runnerup: here you have 50% slam also-so if bidden loosing this time|pg||
mb|p|mb|4C|an| |mb|p|mb|4H|nt|roswolf: transfer to hearts presumably|pg||
nt|jeanhari: solid suit.. 4@C|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|roswolf: boringly good bridge|pg||
nt|runnerup: and now east croxes his arms -..|pg||
pc|dT|pc|d4|nt|jeanhari: Brink Drijver play this as solid, maybe Jansma Paulissen arent|pg||
pc|dA|pc|dQ|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|h2|pc|d2|pc|d7|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h7|pc|hA|pc|h5|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h6|pc|c2|pc|d6|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|hT|pc|c3|pc|d8|pg||
pc|hK|pc|d3|pc|cT|pc|d5|pg||
pc|h9|pc|dK|pc|cJ|pc|d9|pg||
pc|h8|pc|c4|pc|cQ|nt|jeanhari: nice squuze|pg||
pc|c8|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c6|pc|cA|pc|cK|pg||
mc|12|nt|jeanhari: e|pg||
pg||
qx|c21|st||md|3ST653H7DT98652CK8,SJ9HAKQJ983D74C95,SQ82HT65DAKJ3C764,SAK74H42DQCAQJT32|sv|n|nt|ahollan1: Rodwell DID open 2N|pg||
nt|ahollan1: if only i could do more than duplicate his opening bids|pg||
mb|p|mb|1C!|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|hedyg: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswleaderb.html|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1@C multi-purpose Polish Club ??|pg||
mb|2D|nt|ballebodk: whatever 2NT showes its a very hard bid !|pg||
mb|d|mb|p|nt|wilkinsona: is this one a good slam?|pg||
nt|cenglund:  I need to quit, bye all|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: bye|pg||
mb|4D|mb|4H|nt|hedyg: 2NT = 5-7 with fit opposite a 14+ hand|pg||
nt|ahollan1: looks like 50% slam to me    |pg||
mb|p|nt|hedyg: well 5+|pg||
nt|hedyg: but with better hands they bid 2@c|pg||
nt|hedyg: 3@c is relay|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: now diamond lead marked maybe not so good..|pg||
nt|ahollan1: maybe a little more without @D lead|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: East thinking about it... behind in the match, etc|pg||
mb|6C|mb|p|nt|danilo1: 4@S should not make|pg||
nt|ballebodk: in the old dayes and with old men at the table a gentle 2 sp  was what the hand is worth.|pg||
nt|ahollan1: well this goes down less than 6@H when @C hook loses|pg||
nt|ahollan1: meckwell did NOT get to 6@C on 20|pg||
mb|p|nt|hedyg: the good old days?|pg||
mb|p|nt|danilo1: thk 4@H will not make as well :)|pg||
nt|hedyg: message from a junior ( aren't the juniors great?): 2NT = raise, 5-9 4 crd, 7-9 3-crd, or 8-11 with sing|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: told you our lads did well...|pg||
pc|d5|nt|ballebodk: but i still think that 4 sp is a little better than 4 h :)|pg||
nt|hedyg: and then 3@C relay - 3@D 7-9 3 card sup - 3@H cue :)|pg||
nt|ballebodk: but to all your specs out there - watch and learn - even the greastest can make severe mistakes so there is still hopes for us normally mortals :) |pg||
nt|danilo1: with Fantoni's hand ... to be hones ... over 2NT - and passed pd - my only informative bid (for pd and opponets) would be 4@S|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: the inevitable good lead|pg||
pc|d4|pc|dK|pc|dQ|pg||
nt|ballebodk: if 4 h is the bid on the table it should be obvsies that one means a splint and one means natural|pg||
nt|hedyg: you dont need much for slam and you have already missed 2 slams|pg||
nt|chick: and the inevitable failing finesse :(|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Askgaard-Bjarnarson did bid 6@C at other table in Mahaffey[meckwell] vs Denmark|pg||
pc|s8|pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|s9|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h7|pc|hA|pc|h5|pg||
pc|c9|pc|c4|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pg||
nt|hedyg: 3@H is a cuebid, not a natural bid|pg||
nt|ahollan1: @H return would scare declarer more -- but still has to take @C finesse and pray|pg||
pc|s5|nt|danilo1: he cannot thk about slam (pd is passed pd) ... and better not to show hand to opponents I guess|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|sQ|nt|hedyg: and 4@H is...............|pg||
pc|sK|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|o22|st||md|4SKJTHK2D542CJ8763,SQ542H64D83CAQ942,S863H85DAQJT9CKT5,SA97HAQJT973DK76C|sv|e|nt|roswolf: more scope here|pg||
mb|1H|nt|jeanhari: so it was a cold slam.. without club lead from N|pg||
mb|p|nt|runnerup: made 12 without finess -so in 6 you must switch clubs there|pg||
mb|1S|mb|2D|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|d7|pg||
pc|d9|pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|d8|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d2|pc|h4|pc|dT|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|s7|pc|c3|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h5|nt|runnerup: also @h would had cut communications to that squuse last potential slam hand|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|c22|st||md|4SKJTHK2D542CJ8763,SQ542H64D83CAQ942,S863H85DAQJT9CKT5,SA97HAQJT973DK76C|sv|e|nt|hedyg: they are not there to practice systems |pg||
nt|ahollan1: then when finesse loses 2nd @H could kill dummy|pg||
mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|nt|hedyg: personally i think 4@H is a very dangerous bid|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: last 2 boards have sort of decided this match..|pg||
mb|2D|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|hedyg: 1@s= 0-9 4+@ss|pg||
nt|danilo1: all pass|pg||
pc|d2|nt|danilo1: mean 3@D |pg||
pc|d3|pc|dJ|pc|dK|pg||
nt|ahollan1: friendly lead   friendly @S layout|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d5|pc|d8|pc|d9|pg||
pc|h5|pc|hA|nt|chick: it's sort of sad when a match is decided on the basis of something totally unrelated to the quality of the bidding or play|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h4|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d4|pc|h6|pc|dT|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|s9|pc|c3|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cT|pc|h3|pc|c6|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|danilo1: if Spec ifo is rite, 3@D shows 8 tricks ... still, West cannot ofer ninth one (in NT)|pg||
pc|hK|nt|hedyg: so on bd 26 in CR S opened 2@H with 4 cards in @s and played there losing 10 imps|pg||
pc|s2|pc|h8|pg||
nt|ahollan1: didn't even need the friendly @S layout|pg||
pc|c7|mc|10|pg||
qx|o23|st||md|1SQT83H97DAKT96CK9,SKJ9HJ6543D5CA754,SA742HKQ2D872C632,S65HAT8DQJ43CQJT8|sv|b|mb|1D|mb|p|nt|jeanhari: Drijver Brink bid and made 6@H previous board; but they need to: 32 behind with 8 to go|pg||
mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cQ|nt|roswolf: i expect they will go off|pg||
nt|runnerup: yes but you need some help there and feeling that finess is not ok|pg||
nt|jeanhari: this match over if it wasnt already.. Macura Ritmeijer in 6@C on a losing finesse|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c3|pg||
pc|h4|pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h7|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c9|pc|c4|pc|c2|pg||
pc|hT|pc|h9|pc|h3|pc|hQ|pg||
nt|runnerup: must finess qj in @d now to make|pg||
nt|runnerup: and he is not going to do so -my guess|pg||
nt|jeanhari: no clue to play for it... it's not for free as defenders could arrange a pss. diamond ruff|pg||
nt|roswolf: but may be driven to it|pg||
nt|roswolf: if he wakes up:)|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|d5|pg||
pc|dK|pc|s9|pc|d7|pc|d4|pg||
nt|roswolf: hhhhhmmmmmmmm all that thought for a poor line|pg||
nt|runnerup: so down 1|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h2|pc|h8|pc|d6|pg||
mc|7|pg||
qx|c23|st||md|1SQT83H97DAKT96CK9,SKJ9HJ6543D5CA754,SA742HKQ2D872C632,S65HAT8DQJ43CQJT8|sv|b|nt|ballebodk: Dannebrog - we have got another 10 imps :)|pg||
mb|1S!|mb|p|mb|2S|nt|ahollan1: 1@S=4+@S maybe any longer suit   not 5@S 5@H|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|danilo1: NS play limited 1M openings (strong @C)?|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2@S =4+ fith|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 4+ fit|pg||
pc|h4|nt|danilo1: looks like|pg||
nt|ahollan1: so verhees 2-suited ONLY IF 2nd suit is longer|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: works here, as EW do ok in hearts|pg||
pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h7|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|hedyg: 1@c =16+ or 15+ balanced|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c2|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c3|pc|cT|nt|danilo1: important info (hope correct) by Specs ... 1NT response over 1M is Game-Forcing (NS)|pg||
nt|hedyg: that is what the CC says|pg||
nt|hedyg: (see note 2)|pg||
pc|c9|pg||
nt|ahollan1: playing canape can be lots of fun |pg||
nt|ahollan1: canape=open shorter suit, rebid longer suit|pg||
pc|h8|pc|h9|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: tricky make, though, a view in diamonds seems needed now|pg||
pc|h2|pc|hT|pc|s3|pc|h3|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|sK|nt|wilkinsona: ..in fact down in OR..|pg||
pc|sA|nt|hedyg: but since S didnt bid 1NT ...|pg||
nt|danilo1: @S10|pg||
pc|s5|pg||
nt|hedyg: how does that help?|pg||
pc|c6|pc|cJ|pc|s8|pc|c4|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d2|pc|d3|pg||
nt|danilo1: @C .. entry away on time|pg||
nt|hedyg: small @H?|pg||
pc|dK|nt|ahollan1: i wouldn't bet on him finding it|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: nope, -1|pg||
pc|h6|pc|d7|nt|danilo1: nice endplay|pg||
nt|hedyg: very nice|pg||
pc|d4|pg||
pc|sT|pc|sJ|pc|s2|pc|s6|pg||
pc|s9|pc|s4|pc|dJ|pc|d6|pg||
nt|ahollan1: without @D lead -- Verhees didn't expect 4-1 split|pg||
pc|c7|pc|s7|pc|c8|pc|d9|pg||
pc|d8|pc|dQ|pc|dT|pc|h5|pg||
pg||
qx|o24|st||md|2SJ2HKQ875DKJCJ942,SA5HA6D97542CK853,SKT973H32DQT3CQ76,SQ864HJT94DA86CAT|sv|o|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|roswolf: a quiet 2@D IMO IS BETTER|pg||
pc|h5|nt|roswolf: OF COURSE WEST MAY NOR HAVE PROMISED DIAMONDS|pg||
nt|runnerup: all nicely so normal lead lets this make|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h2|pc|h9|pg||
pc|dA|pc|dJ|pc|d2|pc|d3|pg||
pc|d6|pc|dK|pc|d4|pc|dT|pg||
pc|h7|pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h4|pg||
pc|d5|pc|dQ|pc|d8|pc|h8|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|c24|st||md|2SJ2HKQ875DKJCJ942,SA5HA6D97542CK853,SKT973H32DQT3CQ76,SQ864HJT94DA86CAT|sv|o|nt|hedyg: S had to have K@D or N would have opened 1@c|pg||
nt|ahollan1: played from north in the other room -- there was no chance for an inference in @D|pg||
mb|1N!|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2D|an| |nt|hedyg: had shown 13 hcps already|pg||
mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|nt|danilo1: error has been @CQ ... small @C would do|pg||
mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|hedyg: lucky for them K@H is off  side and 5@d doesnt make but 4@H?|pg||
nt|danilo1: last board of the match ... very good play by Danish pair ... and deserved win|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i'm going to guess that both players overbid|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: bit of a punt here it seems..|pg||
pc|sT|nt|ahollan1: quite a view non-vul    |pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s2|pc|s5|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: ..time for a tight defence tho'|pg||
pc|d8|nt|hedyg: thanks to our outstanding operator in Poznan, Joanna!to my excellent fellow commentators Tom, Danilo and Sapan for donating their time and expertise to guide us through these ...|pg||
nt|hedyg: boards.our appreciation to the EBL and the PBF for bringing this event to BBO, especially Slawek Latala  who was intrumental in organizing these broadcasts on behalf of BBO|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d2|pc|d3|pg||
nt|ahollan1: right   seeing other room makes 9 tricks doesn't mean anything   that defense was trying to beat 2N!|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|sA|pc|s3|nt|hedyg: special thanks to our specs for joining and for your kind and helpful comments,we hope you enjoyed the show|pg||
pc|s4|pg||
pc|d4|pc|dT|pc|d6|pc|dJ|pg||
nt|ahollan1: uh oh|pg||
nt|ntmon: makes now|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: well it seems north had to play the Q... thats a really tight defence..|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i'm not sure if there was a way for vP to tell Verhees to unblock @D|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2nd round of @S can/should be used to help identify outside cards -- but how does north say i have BOTH minor Queens|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: don't really think it possible to find that, but good duck by declarer|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pg||
pc|dA|pc|h5|nt|ahollan1: even where we're at   doesn't declarer still need both @H honors onside?|pg||
pc|d5|pc|dQ|pg||
pc|cT|pc|cJ|pc|cK|nt|danilo1: Thanks Hedy, Tom, Sapan ... especially Joanna, Specs and players|pg||
pc|c6|pg||
pc|d9|pc|h2|pc|s6|pc|h7|pg||
pc|d7|nt|wilkinsona: everything needed, its that sort of contract..|pg||
pc|h3|nt|ahollan1: :)|pg||
pc|s8|pc|h8|pg||
pc|hA|pc|s7|pc|h4|pc|hQ|pg||
pc|h6|pc|s9|pc|h9|pc|hK|pg||
nt|ahollan1: @C guess coming|pg||
pc|c9|pc|c3|pc|c7|pc|hT|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c8|pc|sK|pc|hJ|pg||
pg||
qx|o25|st||md|3S763HQJ8632DAKTC7,SKT52HK954D65CJ42,SQJ4HT7DQJ98CKT96,SA98HAD7432CAQ853|sv|e|nt|runnerup: now +1  @c should have been let in time to stop that|pg||
mb|p|mb|1C!|mb|1H|mb|d|nt|roswolf: thats a 2 or eveb 3@H bid in my book|pg||
mb|1N|mb|2S|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d5|nt|roswolf: dont like the auction but the contract is fairly normal|pg||
nt|runnerup: big big 2@s -now no way to make + for ns|pg||
pc|d8|pc|d2|pc|dA|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|hT|pc|hA|pg||
pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|d6|pc|d9|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h5|pc|h7|pc|c8|pg||
pc|dT|pc|h9|pc|dJ|pc|d4|pg||
pc|c4|pc|cT|pc|cQ|pc|c7|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|s4|pg||
mc|7|pg||
qx|c25|st||md|3S763HQJ8632DAKTC7,SKT52HK954D65CJ42,SQJ4HT7DQJ98CKT96,SA98HAD7432CAQ853|sv|e|nt|wilkinsona: really well played, pleasure to watch..|pg||
nt|ahollan1: @C9  was soft play|pg||
mb|p|mb|1C|mb|2H|mb|d|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|chick: this illustrates the problem of whether to open the East hand with 1@C and risk having to reverse, or to open it 1@D and risk misrepresenting the minor distribution|pg||
pc|hT|pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h4|pg||
pc|s8|pc|s7|pc|sK|pc|s4|pg||
pc|c2|nt|wilkinsona: East could of tried 2NT perhaps instead of 3 diamonds|pg||
pc|c6|pc|cQ|pc|c7|pg||
pc|cA|nt|wilkinsona: however the 2 heart bid by south works out better than 1 heart in OR|pg||
nt|chick: There is an excellent article by Steve Robinson on that topic here:   http://www.districtsix.org/Articles/Article%202006-02.aspx|pg||
pc|s3|pc|c4|pc|c9|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|s2|pc|sJ|pg||
pc|s9|pc|h3|pc|sT|pc|sQ|pg||
nt|chick: 2N with the E hand was equally awful with a diamond stopper|pg||
nt|chick: without*|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c3|pc|dT|pc|cJ|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c5|pc|h6|mc|7|nt|ahollan1: Macura's 1@C could have been any strong hand   i suspect 2N wasn't an option even with a relocated honor|pg||
pg||
qx|o26|st||md|4SQ872H7542DA8CAK5,SAKJTHKJ96DT76C73,S94HA3D5432CT9842,S653HQT8DKQJ9CQJ6|sv|b|nt|roswolf: the players going through the motions|pg||
mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|roswolf: another vul weak nt|pg||
nt|runnerup: here 2nt is already too much --but they stoped ok|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|s6|pc|s7|pg||
nt|roswolf: no tricks more imps away|pg||
pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h8|pc|h2|pg||
nt|runnerup: -ew -I was looking those cards--hmm here so -1 ?|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c6|nt|runnerup: actually -a lot|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c3|pg||
pc|h4|nt|roswolf: i see only 4 tricks for n/s|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h3|pc|hT|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|sT|pc|s9|pg||
pc|h9|pc|d2|pc|hQ|pc|h5|pg||
nt|runnerup: yes table dead -- million about so not good for ns |pg||
pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d3|pg||
mc|4|nt|roswolf: concede -3|pg||
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qx|c26|st||md|4SQ872H7542DA8CAK5,SAKJTHKJ96DT76C73,S94HA3D5432CT9842,S653HQT8DKQJ9CQJ6|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1D!|mb|d!|nt|ahollan1: 1@D=0+@D  could be 5+@S or 5+@C, often weak NT|pg||
mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|nt|wilkinsona: well maybe a system that allows for a makable contract (3 clubs) ...|pg||
mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|wilkinsona: EW try for 3N again...|pg||
pc|s2|nt|ahollan1: NS only open a 4-card major when holding an unbalanced hand  [so 5+ 2nd suit or 4441]|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: ...more chance this time..|pg||
nt|ahollan1: same team declaring NT in both rooms -- usually one of those is wrong|pg||
pc|sT|pc|s4|pc|s3|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d2|pc|dJ|pc|dA|pg||
nt|chick: Its important to do hearts first, although declarer has no way of knowing who has which ace|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: interesting comments from 2 specs, 1 claiming its going down, the other says its a make|pg||
nt|chick: now if S switches to clubs, N still has @HA entry|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|c6|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c7|pc|c4|pc|cJ|pg||
nt|chick: if Macura had knocked out the @HA first, it would have made|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h6|pc|h3|pc|h8|pg||
nt|ahollan1: or if defense comes to the rescue|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: now a make again|pg||
nt|chick: hmmm still might, without club continuation|pg||
pc|s6|nt|ahollan1: sooooooooooo much tougher to play this game  at the table when seeing only your hand and dummy|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: I need to put these two specs in tough with each other|pg||
pc|s8|pc|sJ|pc|s9|pg||
nt|ahollan1: whodda thunk|pg||
pc|sK|pc|d3|pc|s5|pc|s7|pg||
pc|sA|nt|chick: it was a sheer guess which ace was held by the hand with long clubs|pg||
mc|8|nt|chick: but something went wrong on the defense|pg||
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qx|o27|st||md|1SKQ986HKQ964DQCJ8,ST2HAT87DAKJ63CK4,SJ75HJ52DT52CAT93,SA43H3D9874CQ7652|sv|o|mb|1S|mb|d|nt|roswolf: when will the weak no trumpers learn that vul at teams it is a losing strategy |pg||
mb|2S|mb|3C|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|roswolf: this wont play well|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|dQ|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|d7|pc|s6|pg||
nt|runnerup: no but ew has some play in 5 @d if they have found that suit ,but they never did|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s2|pc|s5|pc|s3|pg||
nt|roswolf: hmmmmm|pg||
pc|s8|pc|sT|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pg||
pc|d9|pc|c8|pc|dJ|pc|dT|pg||
pc|c4|pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|cJ|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c3|pc|c5|pc|s9|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|d3|pc|s7|pc|s4|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h7|pc|hJ|pc|d8|pg||
pc|h5|pc|c6|pc|hK|pc|h8|pg||
mc|9|nt|roswolf: We are now on the last board of the set. Thanks to our operator, Tadeusz -Great Job! Our appreciation to all the organisers for ensuring that this fine event is brought to BBO ...|pg||
nt|roswolf: vugraph. Thanks too to my very learned fellow commentators Khaled, Jean and Markku for their company and perceptive comments and to our specs whose contributions keep us on our ...|pg||
nt|roswolf: toes.|pg||
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qx|c27|st||md|1SKQ986HKQ964DQCJ8,ST2HAT87DAKJ63CK4,SJ75HJ52DT52CAT93,SA43H3D9874CQ7652|sv|o|nt|ahollan1: that's also why it is very misleading to rely on GIB/Deep Finesse analysis  those programs see all 52 cards|pg||
mb|1H|nt|ahollan1: 1@H=4+@H could have any 4@H and any longer suit  or as you see here  5@H & 5@S|pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: from posted score  looks like Verhees DID continue @C|pg||
mb|2S|nt|ahollan1: 2@S=5+@S|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: i'm told other room result is really 3@S-2|pg||
nt|chick: possible ... operators have a tough job keeping up with the play, but they usually get the final score right|pg||
nt|jeanhari: would have been too strange to switch to a heart|pg||
nt|ahollan1: too right Jean|pg||
nt|ahollan1: and Chick made understatement   absolutely the toughest part of being vugraph operator is following/entering play of the cards|pg||
mb|2N|an| |mb|p|nt|jeanhari: éast dbl or 2NT?|pg||
mb|3D|nt|wilkinsona: seems east will want to protect here, but with what?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: often players don't even let you see the played card  |pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: that's an immpressive balance with 3@S|pg||
nt|ahollan1: and NS have NOT said there is a fit|pg||
pc|s5|nt|wilkinsona: I predict a make here|pg||
pc|s3|pc|sQ|nt|jeanhari: so a solid preformance from the dutch team, advancing to the round of 8|pg||
pc|s2|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: yes well done|pg||
pc|sK|pc|sT|pc|s7|pc|sA|pg||
pc|h3|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg||
pc|h8|pc|h5|pc|d4|pc|h4|pg||
nt|ahollan1: in the other matches  thru 25   Mahaffey 52 vs Denmark 35   thru 26  Rosenthal 42 vs Kamras 22|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c8|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg||
nt|ahollan1: thru 26  Texan Aces 58 vs Patane 43|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s4|nt|jeanhari: probable 6 out of 8 teams will be transnational... where the American team Mahaffey is sort of transnational too|pg||
nt|jeanhari: so 7....|pg||
pc|s6|pc|d3|pg||
pc|hT|pc|hJ|pc|d7|pc|h6|pg||
pc|d8|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pc|d2|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c3|pc|cQ|pc|cJ|pg||
pc|c5|pc|s8|pc|d6|pc|cT|pg||
pc|h7|nt|ahollan1: that's the way the big ACBL team events look now -- it is great that these events are multi-national|pg||
pc|dT|pc|c6|nt|wilkinsona: good, if everyone followed that lead perhaps there would be less trouble in the world|pg||
pc|h9|pg||
mc|10|nt|ahollan1: and transnational|pg||
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qx|o28|st||md|2S8HQ98762DJ943CK7,SK96543HJDK765CAT,SAQJTHA4D8CQJ9652,S72HKT53DAQT2C843|sv|n|nt|runnerup: a possible double swing fod ns at last|pg||
nt|roswolf: 32-6 to the dutch this set|pg||
mb|1S|mb|2C|mb|d|nt|runnerup: for me it seemed to be -1 but |pg||
mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|runnerup: so -1 or -2 but it ewas not made|pg||
nt|roswolf: no protective double from south looked automatic|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c3|pc|c7|pc|cA|pg||
pc|s3|pc|sJ|pc|s2|pc|s8|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|cT|pg||
pc|h2|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pc|h3|pg||
mc|7|nt|roswolf: bye all|pg||
nt|vugraphpl5: thanks|pg||
nt|vugraphpl5: bye|pg||
pg||
qx|c28|st||md|2S8HQ98762DJ943CK7,SK96543HJDK765CAT,SAQJTHA4D8CQJ9652,S72HKT53DAQT2C843|sv|n|nt|jeanhari: last board of the day|pg||
mb|1S|nt|chick: I agree, Al and Tony|pg||
mb|2C|mb|d!|mb|3C|mb|p|nt|chick: would love to see people play as bridge players rather than as *name-a-nation* players|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 3@C=real pressure bid|pg||
nt|chick: heck, there are top flight players who are moving to other countries for the sole purpose of playing for a smaller nation|pg||
nt|ahollan1: unless vP can't take a joke |pg||
nt|ahollan1: i'm sure this is weakest form of @C raise    if that helps North stay low|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: yes, south had other bids, north will pass|pg||
nt|jeanhari: need AK clubs for a game|pg||
mb|4C|mb|p|nt|chick: South will pass, has nothing at all to contribute|pg||
nt|ahollan1: reasonable hedge with 4@C|pg||
mb|p|nt|jeanhari: now Verhees regreeting not have bod hearts??|pg||
nt|ahollan1: good time for Reduction Bids    you bid 4@C??   i reduce back to 3@C|pg||
nt|wilkinsona: well, i don't know, this can go wrong...|pg||
nt|chick: undo!|pg||
mb|p|nt|chick: (not the operator, the 4@C bid)  :)|pg||
pc|c3|nt|ahollan1: nice lead!|pg||
pc|c7|nt|chick: looks like a loser in each suit|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c2|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c5|pc|c4|pc|cK|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|d8|pc|dT|pg||
nt|jeanhari: but 3@C a good bid, will win more then it loses|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d6|pc|c6|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c8|pc|h2|pc|s4|pg||
nt|ahollan1: too bad East DBL   i think Verhees wanted to see if Verhees would artificially show 5+@H|pg||
pc|sT|pc|s2|pc|s8|pc|sK|pg||
pc|d7|pc|c9|pc|d2|pc|d9|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h6|pc|hJ|pg||
nt|ahollan1: sorry highlight/delete didn't work |pg||
mc|9|pg||
