vg|C EC 2011 Open Teams 16 _,1_2,I,1,14,Kopecky,0,Netherlands White,0| rs|4HE-1,4HE-2,3SS-2,3NEx-4,4SS=,2SS+2,2NN-1,2NN=,3DE-1,1NE+1,2DE=,2NW-1,3NS+1,3NS+1,4DS-1,1NW-2,3HS+1,2SS+3,1NE+2,2DE-1,4HE+3,6CE=,7DW-2,7NW-1,4SN-1,4SN-1,5SNx-3,3NW=| pn|Kurka,Jansma,Kopecky,Paulissen,Verhees,Ritmeijer,Prooijen,Macura|pg|| qx|o1|st||md|3SA3HT87DK98432C98,ST942HK93DJT65C72,SKQJ65H54D7CKT653,S87HAQJ62DAQCAQJ4|sv|o|nt|jbgood: good afternoon|pg|| mb|1S|nt|vugraphpl5: hello!|pg|| mb|d|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|nt|jeanhari: hi all|pg|| mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|jeanhari: can be close match.. young team from CZ with one dutchman playing in it|pg|| nt|khaled_m: hi|pg|| pc|sA|nt|jeanhari: 4@H not sure here|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s5|pc|s8|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s4|pc|sJ|pc|s7|pg|| nt|jeanhari: but the bidding will help declarer|pg|| nt|jbgood: another high spade now and it looks like E will have to finesse the @h 9 to make...|pg|| nt|jeanhari: alternatively could try two round of hearts and then AQ of diamonds|pg|| nt|jbgood: y - that is a nice plan|pg|| nt|jeanhari: diamond led from south closed room so could be a swing here|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|jbgood: But if he is allowed to win the @d Q - can he get 3 @c tricks for the contract?|pg|| nt|jeanhari: indeed, cant play a club from hand as souths trump will promote|pg|| nt|khaled_m: will need finesee of H(|pg|| nt|jeanhari: so problably finesse in hearts will be the best line|pg|| nt|jbgood: so i think he has to ruff high, then heart to the nine, clubfinesse, heart to king and another club finesse. if S ruffes, he is endplayed and has to lead a di|pg|| nt|khaled_m: ruff high finesse @H9 finesse club then back with a @H for another club finesse then draw trumps and endplay south|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|c8|pc|s9|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h8|pc|h3|pc|h4|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h7|pc|hK|pc|h5|pg|| nt|khaled_m: South will have only diamonds remaining|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|cQ|pc|c9|pg|| nt|jeanhari: south endplayed in another way|pg|| nt|khaled_m: No South can duck diamond|pg|| nt|jeanhari: club club now seems normal|pg|| nt|khaled_m: now 2 club losers|pg|| nt|jeanhari: ruff one in dummy|pg|| nt|khaled_m: oh yes|pg|| nt|khaled_m: true|pg|| nt|jeanhari: other room decl didnt know that much from the bidding, diamond lead, club J from hand|pg|| pc|cA|pc|hT|pc|c7|pc|c5|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d5|pc|d7|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d6|nt|khaled_m: down now|pg|| pc|s6|pg|| pc|c4|pc|d4|pc|h9|pc|c6|pg|| nt|jbgood: if club ace ruffed - still a club loser|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sK|pc|h6|pc|d8|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c1|st||md|3SA3HT87DK98432C98,ST942HK93DJT65C72,SKQJ65H54D7CKT653,S87HAQJ62DAQCAQJ4|sv|o|nt|blum1956: hi all|pg|| nt|hedyg: good afternoon and welcome back to the 5th European Open Championships, Poznan, Poland. A Swiss teams ,Round 5/7, 10 boards / round|pg|| nt|jfaria: hi all|pg|| mb|p|nt|roswolf: std pre-empt|pg|| nt|hedyg: great!|pg|| nt|bobholl: at least one dutchman going trolugh in this match :)|pg|| nt|bobholl: trough|pg|| mb|1H|nt|hedyg: good morning and welcome back to the 5th European Open Championships, Poznan, Poland. A Swiss teams ,Round 4/7, 10 boards / round|pg|| nt|hedyg: welcome Geoffrey Wolfarth |pg|| nt|glen: hi Hedy, Geoffrey|pg|| nt|hedyg: and Glen :)|pg|| nt|roswolf: hello:)|pg|| nt|roswolf: action bd to start|pg|| nt|3for3: Hi all|pg|| nt|jcomyn: what a horrible 2d|pg|| nt|rmb1: Hi and we are off|pg|| mb|p|nt|jfaria: hi John, they are jrs :)|pg|| nt|jcomyn: I really hate that weak 2d system it is pointless|pg|| nt|jcomyn: hi joao - well thats one reason but they shouldnt learn bad habits early|pg|| nt|panja: hi all|pg|| mb|1S|an| |nt|hedyg: our operator is Tadeusz|pg|| nt|roswolf: hi all|pg|| nt|hedyg: welcome Geoffrey Wolfarth |pg|| nt|hedyg: hi Danny :) ty for joining!|pg|| nt|roswolf: hi danny|pg|| nt|3for3: 4|pg|| nt|jfaria: Meckstroth playing 4@s x in open room|pg|| nt|rmb1: Interesting shape for 2|pg|| nt|rmb1: @H|pg|| mb|2H|mb|d|nt|hedyg: good afternoon and welcome back to the 5th European Open Championships, Poznan, Poland. A Swiss teams ,Round 6/7, 10 boards / round|pg|| nt|hedyg: our operator is Tadeusz|pg|| nt|hedyg: welcome Geoffrey Wolfarth |pg|| nt|roswolf: hi all|pg|| nt|hedyg: http://www.bbotv.com/vugraph/ for BBO TV since BBO mobile is not working|pg|| mb|2S|nt|roswolf: :)gm hedy|pg|| nt|hedyg: our operator is Tadeusz|pg|| nt|granguru: hi all|pg|| nt|granguru: hi hedy|pg|| nt|glen: what should S lead?|pg|| mb|p|nt|ntmon: hi to everyone|pg|| nt|MolvaM: hello all|pg|| nt|hedyg: hi John|pg|| nt|glen: hi Murat :)|pg|| nt|MolvaM: hi Hedy, John|pg|| nt|MolvaM: hi Glen|pg|| nt|hedyg: Murat :)|pg|| nt|roswolf: hi everyone|pg|| nt|glen: S attacks the 6-5 suit|pg|| nt|glen: only 6 stoppers since suit splits|pg|| nt|granguru: I feel Jxxx is the worst lead to make in a 3NT contract|pg|| nt|hedyg: http://www.bbotv.com/vugraph/ for BBO TV since BBO mobile is not working|pg|| nt|panja: if it is 5-5 per system, E should perhaps have tried to play in 5m|pg|| mb|p|mb|3C|nt|jcomyn: that seems daft with 5h makeable|pg|| nt|jfaria: first board... W stood quiet|pg|| nt|jcomyn: do u bid 4nt w?|pg|| mb|p|nt|blum1956: 5 nj 6 tricks probably|pg|| nt|roswolf: normal contract|pg|| nt|hedyg: i feel 4th from longest and strongest works best except from an ace|pg|| nt|3for3: 4@C will find hearts, but at the cost of being too high. Meck likeds the double fit potential|pg|| nt|roswolf: feisty bidding|pg|| mb|3H|nt|roswolf: a very sharp double|pg|| nt|hedyg: system summary for EW: http://usbf.org/index2.php?option=com_teamforms&task=display&pop=1&page=0&fid=763&pid=193|pg|| nt|dburn: that was pretty well judged by East|pg|| nt|roswolf: seems pretty normal bur the play is the thing|pg|| nt|hedyg: fficial website is : http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg|| nt|roswolf: yes david - pity he is still anonymous|pg|| nt|hedyg: http://www.bbotv.com/vugraph/ for BBO TV since BBO mobile is not working|pg|| nt|3for3: obvious singleton lead.|pg|| nt|roswolf: finis|pg|| mb|p|mb|4H|nt|granguru: partner must have around 8 points so my first choice is @d10 then a small @C|pg|| mb|p|nt|ntmon: Open teams, 3rd round of Swiss just started|pg|| nt|athene: hi good morning everyone|pg|| nt|roswolf: always lead a major against this bidding :) mind you i would have led a spade:(|pg|| nt|dburn: mind you, he may wish he had a spade higher than the eight|pg|| nt|jfaria: chances are to play for A@c onside ...|pg|| mb|p|nt|hedyg: and i strongly dislike leading from a doubleton if pd didnt bid the suit|pg|| nt|glen: small @C would produce -400|pg|| mb|p|nt|hedyg: BBO mobile is still not working so pls use: http://www.bbotv.com/vugraph/|pg|| nt|hedyg: hi Bill|pg|| nt|roswolf: hi bill|pg|| nt|roswolf: north thinks safety first|pg|| nt|roswolf: poor raise imo|pg|| nt|roswolf: even with a 20 hcp hand the bidding suggests a lack of tricks|pg|| nt|roswolf: but the cards are kind|pg|| pc|d3|nt|blum1956: 5 to 6|pg|| nt|bobholl: won't work indeed :)|pg|| nt|bobholl: may be now :)|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d7|nt|roswolf: so we would have all let this through:)|pg|| nt|hedyg: results and running scores: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswleaderb.html|pg|| pc|dQ|pg|| nt|roswolf: now that is a dumb lead @sA is stand out|pg|| nt|leao: hello all from são paulo, brazil|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c8|nt|jcomyn: no problem with this but brave bid|pg|| pc|c2|nt|hedyg: running scores: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswrunda7.html|pg|| nt|jfaria: so probably -1|pg|| pc|cK|pg|| nt|roswolf: hmm strange start|pg|| nt|bobholl: but what else :)|pg|| nt|roswolf: but a spade sinks this now|pg|| pc|s6|nt|jcomyn: could also play for doubleton ace|pg|| pc|s8|nt|hedyg: hi David :)|pg|| pc|sA|nt|dburn: but not now - Meckstroth needed to start eliminating the hearts|pg|| pc|s2|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d6|pc|h4|nt|hedyg: running scores: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswleaderb.html|pg|| pc|dA|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s7|pc|s3|nt|roswolf: 3ntx may well have made|pg|| nt|leao: well defended|pg|| pc|s4|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|MolvaM: so the target at the end of today is to stay at the top 27 in group A, and top 5 in group B|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|granguru: nice deception|pg|| nt|dburn: then, he could have reached a position where he threw a diamond on the king of spades, and another on the eight|pg|| nt|dburn: and another on the ruff and discard that West would have had to give him|pg|| nt|roswolf: poof declarer will end up on the embankment - draw trumps and take the club finesse -real simple|pg|| pc|c9|nt|hedyg: i will get the CCs|pg|| nt|roswolf: looks -1 for a 5 imp pickup for kamras|pg|| nt|hedyg: EW CC: http://www.ecatsbridge.org/documents/files/ConventionCards/2008Pau-european/OpenTeams/Sweden/cullin-upmark.pdf|pg|| pc|s9|pg|| nt|leao: rite.. but he gave the defence a chance...|pg|| nt|bobholl: how get to dummy for a 2nd @C finesse ?|pg|| pc|cA|pc|h7|nt|granguru: but Winker didnt fall on it|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c3|pg|| nt|roswolf: finesse the @H9:)|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dT|nt|roswolf: well it was defeated anyway|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h6|pg|| pc|c4|mc|8|pg|| qx|o2|st||md|4SAQJ863HK864DA8CQ,S974H92D32CAJ8652,ST2HT7DQT9654CKT4,SK5HAQJ53DKJ7C973|sv|n|mb|1H|mb|d|mb|1N|nt|khaled_m: Double!|pg|| mb|2D|mb|3C|mb|3S|nt|jbgood: 1 NT looked as transfer to @c|pg|| mb|p|nt|jeanhari: ew in 3NT doubled closed room|pg|| nt|jeanhari: down a lot... so only 4@S making will save imps or win some|pg|| nt|jbgood: dbl with the S hand made him have to bid spades at an uncomfortable level|pg|| nt|jeanhari: but 4@S has chances, obvious heart lead helps declarer|pg|| nt|jbgood: trump lead should set it - or club ace and spade shift|pg|| nt|jeanhari: 7spades tricks and each in the other suits|pg|| nt|khaled_m: After @HA a trump switch |pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|h2|nt|jbgood: a flying start for the hwite oranjes|pg|| pc|h7|nt|khaled_m: no entry to cash @CK|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h4|pg|| nt|jbgood: even though a @h lead should see S home|pg|| nt|jeanhari: probably only 9 tricks|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s2|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h9|pc|hT|nt|khaled_m: ooh|pg|| pc|h3|pg|| pc|h6|pc|d2|pc|sT|pc|h5|pg|| nt|khaled_m: 2 down now|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c7|pc|cQ|nt|khaled_m: Maybe by trump promotion|pg|| pc|cA|pg|| nt|jeanhari: losing 5 tricks...or 6|pg|| nt|jbgood: he may guess spades and make 8|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dT|pc|dJ|pc|dA|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s7|pc|d4|pc|sK|pg|| nt|khaled_m: not to be|pg|| nt|jbgood: now the promo|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h8|pc|c2|pc|d5|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d8|pc|c5|pc|d6|pg|| pc|d7|pc|s8|pc|s9|pc|d9|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|c2|st||md|4SAQJ863HK864DA8CQ,S974H92D32CAJ8652,ST2HT7DQT9654CKT4,SK5HAQJ53DKJ7C973|sv|n|nt|hedyg: 3@H X in OR|pg|| nt|granguru: declarer saved 2 potential tricks|pg|| nt|hedyg: E thinking, has not passed yet|pg|| nt|hedyg: results and running scores: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswrunda6.html|pg|| nt|jfaria: well bellow 50% :)|pg|| nt|jcomyn: of course|pg|| nt|jcomyn: n might get excited here|pg|| mb|1N|an| |nt|hedyg: EW CC: http://www.ecatsbridge.org/documents/files/ConventionCards/2010Ostend-european/OpenTeams/israel/ronpa-gino.pdf|pg|| nt|hedyg: and EW landed in 5@d|pg|| mb|2C|an| |nt|ntmon: @S partscore to EW|pg|| nt|MolvaM: 27+5 = 32 teams will qualify for the knockouts. members of the eliminated teams can enjoy the open pairs event starting tomorrow|pg|| nt|dburn: but this match will be fast - both teams are sure to qualify, there is no carry-over, so they will save their energies for the knock-out stages|pg|| nt|hedyg: NS CC: http://www.ecatsbridge.org/documents/files/ConventionCards/2009BermudaBowlBrazil/bermudabowl/usa2/meckstroth-rodwell.pdf|pg|| nt|jcomyn: not now he wont|pg|| nt|panja: this must have gone too fast to record|pg|| mb|2N|nt|hedyg: NS CC: http://www.ecatsbridge.org/documents/files/ConventionCards/2010Ostend-european/OpenTeams/italy/bocchi-madala.pdf|pg|| nt|roswolf: is that supposed to be a rubbish multi?|pg|| nt|hedyg: 2@d= multi, 2M= 10-13|pg|| nt|roswolf: rdbl =diamonds?|pg|| nt|hedyg: so this is max 9 hcps|pg|| nt|dburn: well, rubbish is as rubbish goes - that's pretty sound, not vulnerable in first seat|pg|| nt|hedyg: i never consider a 6-4 hand as rubbish anyhow|pg|| nt|roswolf: ok bid your suit is the consensus for rdbl|pg|| nt|hedyg: pass would show @ds, not XX|pg|| nt|dburn: but I would be surprised to find that redouble showed diamonds|pg|| nt|dburn: some play that redoubled means "I don't want to compete" - they would bid 2@s to mean "I want to compete in hearts, but not spades"|pg|| nt|roswolf: americans have a marked weakness against the multi -i t is extremely discouraged in the state|pg|| nt|3for3: that is how we play the redouble. not sure it is best. since they are often in trouble when they enter with balanced garbage|pg|| nt|hedyg: there is no carryover to the round of 32|pg|| nt|roswolf: you would hope meckwell at least have sensible methods|pg|| nt|3for3: they do play sensible methods. but doubling 2@D is not free, especially when the partner of the multi has some diamond length|pg|| nt|hedyg: to pass with @ds is normal i believe as E|pg|| nt|hedyg: with 6+ @ds|pg|| nt|roswolf: i would ignore the rdbl and bid 3@C SHOWING VALUES + clubs(going via leb would be weaker)|pg|| nt|3for3: meck usually isnt this slow|pg|| nt|roswolf: hmm is south choosing between 3@C OR 4@c?|pg|| nt|dburn: he may be asking questions of West, of course|pg|| nt|roswolf: OK seriously declarer failed to heed the significance of the diamond lead|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|nt|woozle: 6NT has chances with a spade lead - four spades, three hearts, three diamonds, one club and a squeeze on south|pg|| nt|jcomyn: but ns might get busy in h|pg|| nt|hedyg: EW CC: http://www.ecatsbridge.org/documents/files/ConventionCards/2010Ostend-european/OpenTeams/italy/duboin-sementa.pdf|pg|| nt|MolvaM: 2s was intermediate?|pg|| nt|hedyg: specs tell me XX used to be bid your major for EW|pg|| nt|3for3: it might be west who is thinking, but i doubt it.|pg|| nt|3for3: usually these auctions are fairly automatic for the multi side.|pg|| nt|roswolf: i had assumed that rodwell's dbl showed 12-15 bal or very strong -does anyone know for sure?|pg|| nt|dburn: doesn't look as though redouble was diamonds, at any rate - West would have bid if it did|pg|| nt|3for3: i would bet with you |pg|| nt|hedyg: for sure|pg|| nt|jfaria: Mahaffey probably thinks he conceeded a swing in previous board..|pg|| nt|jcomyn: as long as s passes|pg|| nt|rmb1: 2H was 5H + 5other|pg|| nt|roswolf: which basically would be totally ludicrous unless it was a singleton|pg|| mb|d|nt|ntmon: but higher suit probably wins|pg|| nt|dburn: but 3@c was obviously value-showing, given North's 3NT|pg|| mb|p|nt|woozle: Fiona Brown is very cautious with her barren 11|pg|| nt|roswolf: aggressive reopening by north|pg|| nt|panja: that 1Nt is a risk VUL|pg|| mb|p|nt|MolvaM: 10-13 I am told ok|pg|| nt|roswolf: some may have doubled as east-t/o of course|pg|| nt|MolvaM: or 11-13 I am also told :)|pg|| nt|roswolf: well 6@C here on ice|pg|| nt|hedyg: i have no CC for NS, soemthing between SEF and 2/1|pg|| nt|roswolf: 6nt from east cold as well|pg|| nt|panja: 5 other including @S?|pg|| nt|bobholl: a lebensohl misunderstood ?|pg|| mb|p|nt|jcomyn: not yet|pg|| nt|hedyg: lead 4th from longest!|pg|| nt|dburn: and I suppose he might make it, if East doesn't lead a diamond|pg|| nt|jfaria: after N said he has got the blacks there is no great deal about bidding @c|pg|| nt|roswolf: the dutch will get on the board here|pg|| nt|roswolf: looks like it|pg|| nt|roswolf: at least it is nv|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|3for3: 3nt is reasonable spot. the diamond stopper looks weak, but as long as the clubs run, you just need AK@D in one hand or no @D lead|pg|| nt|hedyg: 9 tricks|pg|| nt|3for3: they got the latter...|pg|| nt|bobholl: small or @SQ ?|pg|| nt|roswolf: Q would also be my choice|pg|| pc|s4|nt|ntmon: .. now :)|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Wikner/Kamras: http://www.svenskbridge.se/e107_files/tavling/deklarationer/AWJK1.pdf|pg|| pc|s2|nt|roswolf: this may not play too well|pg|| pc|sK|pg|| nt|rmb1: Yes, any other. (But only in some events)|pg|| nt|panja: well, in that case, dbl must have been negative...and W should have taken out...or was the double penalty?|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cQ|nt|woozle: four rounds of spades now will put South through the wringer|pg|| nt|athene: bocchi knows his side has a fit - if opps have a 9-card fit you are guaranteed an 8-card fit at least - but that doesn't mean you will find it|pg|| nt|hedyg: some might bid 4@S with the W hand once he knows about 4 card support since he has no valid defense vs 4@H except the trumps|pg|| nt|roswolf: this can be defeated|pg|| nt|roswolf: the swedes on the first bd bid to 5@D for a game swing|pg|| nt|jcomyn: 3 bids on a 9 count now what|pg|| nt|panja: on B16, here, South is worried about @D control..|pg|| nt|panja: N should simply have bid 3Nt..but now, South is in a bind|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cT|pg|| nt|blum1956: A player of the team which is in best 8 will hardly lead a spade against 6NT|pg|| nt|hedyg: ty Roland :)|pg|| nt|MolvaM: the bidding could well go 1@s-2@s-4@S at other tables|pg|| nt|roswolf: true|pg|| nt|roswolf: i have seen it said that at expert level you should never lead pard's major but lead your own suit and this hand is a good example of why|pg|| nt|panja: Lev trying to put pressure|pg|| nt|panja: the youngsters might just redbl...|pg|| pc|sA|nt|VugraphPLA: TD was called by Upmark|pg|| nt|hedyg: surely he called TD cause 3NT was bid after a longgggggg huddle by S|pg|| nt|3for3: does the slow bid demonstrably suggest 3nt by Rodwell?|pg|| nt|hedyg: the TD will decide that|pg|| nt|roswolf: in my view yes 3nt is much safer when pard huddles|pg|| nt|hedyg: in the mean time i had received some messages from kibs about the 3NT bid after a long huddle|pg|| nt|3for3: it may be safer. but it needs to be DEMONSTRABLY suggested...the law's words, not mine|pg|| nt|roswolf: yes it again looks that americans cant deal with the multi:)|pg|| nt|dburn: no more than an in-tempo 3@c bid would, I imagine - but we are not the Director, of course|pg|| nt|roswolf: declarer thinks oh dear|pg|| pc|s7|nt|jcomyn: well who does win now|pg|| nt|athene: west's defensive plan is very easy|pg|| nt|athene: just play spades and spades and spades|pg|| nt|roswolf: indeed|pg|| nt|athene: and get your three trump tricks|pg|| nt|hedyg: Ilan Herbst went 2 off in OR|pg|| nt|athene: maybe south would be better-off to double 3@S rather than bid 4@H, if he feels he has to do something|pg|| nt|roswolf: i think only -1 is likely here|pg|| nt|roswolf: competenty done|pg|| nt|roswolf: now 13 tricks|pg|| nt|rmb1: Lev seems to expect more from 1@D than East will deliver|pg|| nt|rmb1: 4@H not very attractive for South (unless North had doubleton diamond)|pg|| nt|panja: it will be difficult to avoid 3 trump losers here...4@H doesn't look like a make|pg|| nt|rmb1: If anything, 4@S looks easier|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s5|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s9|nt|athene: 4@H should be a five-card suit in my opinion|pg|| pc|d5|nt|panja: NS seem to have similar cards in @H and @S...but @S are 33 in EW hands..so 4@S might have a modicum of a chance|pg|| nt|panja: @CK, @H ruff, a trump...what is the fourth possibility for the defenders?|pg|| nt|rmb1: @HA :)|pg|| nt|panja: oh well......if Declarer tries to prevent @C ruff, he can't ruff anything himself...|pg|| nt|panja: but he could get 3 Clubs, 3 Spades, 2 Diamonds, 2 Hearts for 10|pg|| pc|h3|pg|| nt|hedyg: he could not do that after his pd doubled 3@S, Bill|pg|| nt|jcomyn: CQ and H|pg|| pc|s3|nt|roswolf: -4 800 is a big price to pay for a bidding mixup|pg|| pc|h2|nt|ntmon: it's probable that EW will come to 4@S on many tables either on its own or pushed, but not doubled |pg|| nt|athene: no i mean in the other room|pg|| nt|hedyg: but that would be for minors, denying 4@Hs|pg|| nt|hedyg: it is rare that pd, when he doubles 1@s, does not have 4 cards in @H|pg|| nt|roswolf: not so rare these days for the top players|pg|| nt|hedyg: we all assume pd has 4 OM when he doubles a M opening|pg|| nt|roswolf: that is true enough|pg|| nt|jfaria: think E could antecipate some kind of misfit...|pg|| pc|d6|pc|h5|pg|| nt|jcomyn: but why does w keep bidding when he knows big hand on nhis left|pg|| pc|s6|nt|woozle: probably not, but leading from a nothing suit isn't completely safe either - can easily pick up (say) partner's queen|pg|| nt|hedyg: nobody is very worried about the overtrick|pg|| pc|d2|nt|jcomyn: levazza mean business by the looks of things|pg|| nt|jfaria: 9 tricks is quite a bit in this layout|pg|| nt|panja: I thought @CK was not a good choice....for West|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hJ|pg|| nt|roswolf: ace and another trump lookes obvious as he wasnt in 4|pg|| nt|glen: should declarer have played @S ace then @s|pg|| pc|s8|pc|d3|nt|hedyg: :)|pg|| nt|athene: i think doubling just says you don't have the offensive potential in hearts to commit to bidding 4 over 3|pg|| nt|roswolf: this is not good for south|pg|| nt|roswolf: fair comment bill|pg|| nt|athene: so you can still have auctions like 1@S X 3@S X pass 4minor pass 4@H|pg|| nt|athene: saying ok, we might want to play here, but we don't have to|pg|| nt|roswolf: running scores: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswleaderb.html|pg|| pc|hT|nt|MolvaM: greed?|pg|| nt|roswolf: hmm an error by south|pg|| nt|roswolf: yup|pg|| nt|MolvaM: actually he should want the @sK to be offside|pg|| nt|roswolf: on the first bd south led @sA AGAINST 4@h for -1|pg|| pc|c3|pg|| nt|roswolf: in the other room|pg|| pc|dA|pc|c5|nt|panja: it might still make....unless @HQ entry is knocked out.So W must win @S, and switch to @HJ perhaps..let us see|pg|| nt|rmb1: Looks like two trumps for defence|pg|| nt|panja: no..@SJ and back next..that should be normal now|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d7|pg|| nt|jcomyn: he will get what he deserved|pg|| pc|d8|nt|Walddk6: Welcome to Martin Carroll|pg|| pc|c6|pc|d9|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|dK|nt|mcarroll: Hi all|pg|| nt|athene: nice line, trying to make|pg|| pc|h4|nt|rmb1: Too many red suit losers|pg|| nt|panja: but for North's refusal to bid 2Nt..this deal would have been over long ago|pg|| nt|rmb1: Board 15 was flat in 4@SX+1 on the same auction|pg|| pc|c8|nt|athene: playing for @CJx onside|pg|| pc|dT|pg|| pc|c9|pc|h6|pc|cA|pc|c4|pg|| pc|h9|nt|athene: and even trump break|pg|| pc|cK|nt|rmb1: Apparently, West needed to play a @D at trick 2 to threaten a diamond overruff and North needed to play a small @H at trick 3 to establish 2 @H tricks|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h8|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|cJ|pc|dQ|pg|| nt|roswolf: good try|pg|| nt|bobholl: this even better than making 4@S (no trump lead or switch)|pg|| nt|roswolf: i trust this wont put e/w on tilt|pg|| pg|| qx|o3|st||md|1SJT753H72DA87CK73,SQHK9653DQ92CT852,SK98HAT4DT4CAQJ94,SA642HQJ8DKJ653C6|sv|e|nt|jeanhari: not the best of starts for the Czechs, up against the more experienced team|pg|| nt|khaled_m: I dont understand why he doubled |pg|| nt|jbgood: some pairs play that way - not my cup of tea|pg|| nt|jeanhari: me neither, 1! looks so normal|pg|| nt|jeanhari: @S|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|nt|khaled_m: No Extras no distribution a singleton in a suit|pg|| mb|d|nt|khaled_m: everything goes against a double|pg|| mb|2S|an|5+!s 3+!c 7-9 PC|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|jeanhari: do Kopecky Kruka play a strong NT?|pg|| nt|jeanhari: Kurka... sorry|pg|| pc|h5|nt|jeanhari: 12-14 i'm told|pg|| nt|jbgood: tough game - lucky spade position |pg|| nt|jeanhari: must duck this trick|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h8|pc|h2|pg|| nt|khaled_m: yes otherwise establishes a club ruff|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c6|pc|cK|pc|c2|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|s2|pg|| nt|jeanhari: cant play spades from dummy so defense have a ruff now|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s4|pc|s3|nt|jeanhari: but no diamondloser|pg|| pc|h3|pg|| pc|s9|nt|khaled_m: but still makes!|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s5|nt|khaled_m: lucky|pg|| pc|cT|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h7|nt|jeanhari: not much more needed then that spade finesse... so not that lucky|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h4|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cA|pc|s6|pc|c3|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c3|st||md|1SJT753H72DA87CK73,SQHK9653DQ92CT852,SK98HAT4DT4CAQJ94,SA642HQJ8DKJ653C6|sv|e|nt|roswolf: agreed since he was in 3|pg|| nt|MolvaM: so that 4@s wont make|pg|| nt|jfaria: 500 for nothing|pg|| nt|jcomyn: 500 for bidding like a novice|pg|| nt|jcomyn: 1nt by somebody|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|woozle: Brown has an exciting hand but best defense can beat 4S|pg|| nt|roswolf: an imp is an imp is an imp so said a great player once|pg|| nt|hedyg: the official site is: http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg|| nt|rmb1: 10IMP to Mahaffey against 3NT= in OR|pg|| mb|1N|nt|mcarroll: This will certainly see Major suit action|pg|| nt|roswolf: i believe you danny|pg|| nt|jfaria: 11 facing 11|pg|| mb|p|nt|ntmon: 4@S now by NS|pg|| nt|jcomyn: will they get to 6|pg|| nt|roswolf: 4@H is normal here|pg|| nt|roswolf: another transfer|pg|| nt|jcomyn: passed out in the club but not here|pg|| nt|jfaria: one of the most misguidding combination|pg|| mb|2C|nt|roswolf: anothr transfer|pg|| nt|jcomyn: usually leads to trouble|pg|| mb|p|nt|roswolf: might inhibit the nat @H overcall by east |pg|| nt|3for3: 2@H reverse flannery|pg|| nt|roswolf: what is the alleged range of 1nt?|pg|| mb|2D|nt|woozle: South's 2D looks competitively inadequate, not that it matters much here|pg|| nt|jcomyn: tempting|pg|| nt|jfaria: here with the light open after S has passed|pg|| nt|bobholl: guess 14-16|pg|| mb|d|mb|2S|mb|p|nt|blum1956: Probably it is a @h raise|pg|| nt|roswolf: may be showing 3@H support - the transfer shows 4+ in hearts|pg|| nt|leao: this shud be to play, no?|pg|| nt|leao: playing weak NT|pg|| nt|roswolf: NORTH SHOULDNT BID AGAIN THE DOUBLE IS A WARNING BELL|pg|| nt|roswolf: sorry for the shout -stuck caps lock key|pg|| mb|p|nt|roswolf: i would lead a club|pg|| nt|roswolf: the @SQ is looking for a brillancy prize|pg|| mb|p|nt|roswolf: but it depends on what double by eric showed - if a weak nt then it may well be assuming a club fit - but we must remember that defence could have defeated it|pg|| nt|hedyg: 2@H not alerted?|pg|| nt|wstuart: sleeping actually|pg|| nt|bobholl: he listens to you :)|pg|| nt|roswolf: yes only 1000 miles away|pg|| pc|d9|nt|woozle: No doubt, and a toothpick is a weapon but it's not really adequate for a duel|pg|| nt|jcomyn: as u said - now whnat?|pg|| nt|leao: in spite of the trump break this shud make in comfort (+1, looks like)|pg|| nt|leao: no chance he hears me... in another continent altogether|pg|| nt|roswolf: e/w would have done well in one of the red suits|pg|| pc|dT|nt|jcomyn: but resisted|pg|| nt|roswolf: i am told 1@c-1@d-1@h=3@h unball,1nt=2/3@hball|pg|| nt|roswolf: another vul game bash|pg|| nt|hedyg: 1st we bid it, then we try to make it|pg|| pc|dJ|nt|ntmon: S would need @D8 instead of @D7|pg|| nt|rmb1: 2 @C A@D @D ruff 5 @H = +1|pg|| pc|dA|pg|| nt|jcomyn: has to be penlties but e not sure|pg|| pc|d7|nt|roswolf: yup|pg|| nt|roswolf: to try and set up hearts looks natural not that it will work|pg|| nt|hedyg: not enough transportation|pg|| nt|hedyg: and also the 3rd @s in the N hand|pg|| nt|roswolf: true but if 3-3 then enough|pg|| nt|hedyg: if there is a way Pepsi will find it|pg|| nt|roswolf: dd it is doomed i am told - looks it to me in practice as well|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|jfaria: N took 2nt as minors and really bid his p suit with 2 cards!!|pg|| pc|d4|nt|athene: this is a funny auction then - how did Bocchi know his partner had five hearts>|pg|| nt|jcomyn: early monday morning bridge|pg|| nt|jfaria: revenge from prevous board?|pg|| nt|Walddk5: 2 segments of 14 boards in the R32, R16, QF and SF. 3 x 16 in the finals on Wednesday|pg|| pc|d6|pg|| nt|athene: ?|pg|| pc|h5|nt|mcarroll: making now|pg|| nt|woozle: Brown had two options - lead the club early before the opponents know you have eight trumps, or run trumps and try to put on pressure|pg|| nt|bobholl: migth even make 4 5@C 4@S 2 aces |pg|| nt|james_h: my time and if I can earlier|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hJ|nt|ntmon: or @D lead|pg|| pc|h2|pg|| nt|athene: maybe he didn't|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|blum1956: Maybe it were better to play the @cQ before trumps|pg|| nt|roswolf: pepsi is east's nickname |pg|| pc|h7|nt|mcarroll: True enough|pg|| nt|Walddk4: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswrunda6.html|pg|| nt|panja: do you like the 2@H bid?|pg|| pc|h3|nt|woozle: Count signals should sort out the club suit for the defense when North has the ace|pg|| pc|hA|pg|| nt|roswolf: non-poles cant pronounce all the consonants in his name|pg|| nt|leao: indeed he might|pg|| nt|leao: but he also might fear @c ruffs|pg|| nt|bobholl: in 2 he won't go all out|pg|| nt|leao: and he´s in the wrong hand to takcle trumps|pg|| pc|sK|nt|roswolf: 3nt shows 5 hearts i am told :)|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|sQ|pg|| nt|athene: yes i know 1@D shows hearts but only 4+ hearts|pg|| nt|panja: why bid for 8 tricks when you can take 7 and get a plus score? |pg|| nt|leao: nicely done|pg|| nt|roswolf: on bd2 south in the other room tried 3@S-2- 14 IMPS TO THE DUTCH|pg|| pc|c4|nt|roswolf: cutting his losses -1|pg|| nt|rmb1: I prefer it to Pass|pg|| pc|c6|nt|jcomyn: surprised in a way they didnt try|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c2|pg|| pc|d8|nt|jcomyn: c situation helps a little|pg|| nt|jfaria: again 9 tricks is a lot|pg|| pc|d2|pc|s8|pc|d3|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sA|nt|blum1956: It is difficult for defenders to make a mistake when they have some 7 free discards|pg|| nt|roswolf: concede|pg|| pc|s5|nt|jcomyn: should have been glad to get out at 2nt|pg|| pc|c5|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o4|st||md|2ST75H5DT74C985432,SK8HQT92D862CKJT7,SQJ92HAKJ7DA53CAQ,SA643H8643DKQJ9C6|sv|b|mb|p|nt|jbgood: if E had had AQxx in trumps S would suffer 3 @s losers|pg|| mb|2N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dK|pc|d4|pc|d8|pc|d3|pg|| nt|jeanhari: decl need two finesses here, can the defence survive here?|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d7|pc|d2|pc|d5|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dT|pc|d6|pc|dA|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s3|pc|s5|pc|sK|pg|| nt|jeanhari: need to play a spade, very difficult|pg|| nt|khaled_m: spade ret would be best here|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hJ|pc|h3|pc|h5|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s4|pc|s7|pc|s8|pg|| nt|jeanhari: to 8 tricks too here|pg|| nt|khaled_m: wasted an entry|pg|| nt|jeanhari: ai|pg|| nt|jbgood: even N cannot see through the cards...|pg|| nt|khaled_m: @S10 was entry for @C finess|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|sT|pc|c7|pg|| pc|d9|pc|c2|pc|cT|pc|h7|pg|| pc|s6|pc|c3|pc|h2|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|c4|pc|h9|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h6|pc|c5|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c8|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|h8|pc|c9|pc|cK|pg|| pg|| qx|c4|st||md|2ST75H5DT74C985432,SK8HQT92D862CKJT7,SQJ92HAKJ7DA53CAQ,SA643H8643DKQJ9C6|sv|b|nt|hedyg: i am afraid when the CC was made last year they were not yet playing transfers over the 1@c opening, thus no explanations|pg|| nt|roswolf: what 3@H would mean is a mystery:)|pg|| nt|athene: ok so with a 3nt bid and only four hearts, south would have done something else|pg|| nt|athene: garozzo responds 2@C on strong balanced hands with a 4-card major|pg|| nt|athene: the idea is to conceal the major if you don't have a 4-4 fit|pg|| nt|athene: so if you respond showing a major then bid 3nt you promise 5|pg|| nt|roswolf: another kibber suggests they may use 3@S rebid by south as puppet to 3nt|pg|| nt|athene: looks as though NS are doing the same sort of thing|pg|| nt|MolvaM: nice hand.|pg|| nt|hedyg: wd for -1?|pg|| nt|dburn: delay perhaps caused by return of Director to table|pg|| nt|3for3: south made an interesting pass of the double of 1@H in CR. Terrible heart spots. I'd have bid some number of NT myself|pg|| nt|VugraphPLA: They will talk with TD after the match |pg|| nt|jcomyn: still a present of 6 imps|pg|| mb|p|nt|jfaria: a quiet @s game now|pg|| mb|1C|an| |nt|MolvaM: we would be happy if a few voids would be there but ok :)|pg|| nt|glen: on bd 22, Tokay, S in other room, started trumps with ace for +140 and 5 imps|pg|| mb|p|nt|jcomyn: 3C|pg|| nt|ntmon: 2@S alerted but looks like sign-off|pg|| nt|roswolf: on 22 in 3@S DECLARER DID PLAY ACE AND ANOR TRUMP|pg|| nt|MolvaM: welldone tokay :)|pg|| mb|1D|nt|roswolf: great minds eh glen!?:)|pg|| nt|glen: hey, canadians own "eh"|pg|| nt|roswolf: well 3nt seems routine by west|pg|| nt|bobholl: other room reached 4@S getting a @H lead|pg|| nt|leao: strong @c?|pg|| mb|p|nt|jcomyn: boy what happens now|pg|| nt|ntmon: when opps bid 2 suits and we look for 3NT, we bid the suit we have stopped |pg|| nt|hedyg: 2@d= 4+|pg|| nt|roswolf: a difficult salm to reach 6@D seems clearly superior|pg|| nt|athene: NS can bid lots of hearts but that will only encourage east to bid a slam|pg|| nt|hedyg: ok here is the CC for NS now: http://www.svenskbridge.se/e107_files/tavling/deklarationer/AWJKeng.pdf|pg|| nt|roswolf: this might be awkward for n/s|pg|| nt|hedyg: which is the awkward part?|pg|| nt|jcomyn: yes all this early morning excitement is a bit much for an aul fella like me|pg|| nt|jfaria: no reason to play anything else but 4@s|pg|| nt|panja: 6@C will be a good spot on B18|pg|| nt|bobholl: yes kind of|pg|| mb|2N|an|21-22|nt|ntmon: but i agree .. NS on the way to problems|pg|| nt|roswolf: the heart lead against nt is marked lucky east has 10xxx|pg|| nt|hedyg: getting to grand?|pg|| nt|rmb1: Losing @D finesse in 6NT|pg|| mb|p|nt|woozle: At the other table, North switched to a diamond at trick two, but chose the lowest...South, duly misled, led one back|pg|| nt|athene: 6@S will make if the defence foolishly try to cash @HAK, but not if they switch to a club to take out the entry to the diamonds, of course|pg|| nt|glen: thanks Hedy, typical swedish cc, very little blank space left|pg|| nt|dburn: Kokish hasn't yet managed to persuade Rodwell to overcall 1@s instead of doubling|pg|| nt|leao: ok, ty|pg|| mb|p|nt|MolvaM: heart lead and low spade switch?|pg|| nt|granguru: and west @HJx|pg|| mb|p|nt|jcomyn: like well into the soup|pg|| nt|jcomyn: I'm still bidding 3c on the s hand before you have your blood spilled|pg|| nt|MolvaM: oh then @sA disappears|pg|| nt|roswolf: slam is on in many denominations and level is difficult to judge too|pg|| nt|jfaria: 2 nt must be several layouts, otherwise I doubt W would enter tehe auction|pg|| pc|dK|nt|ntmon: the only problem with 3@C is that should not be enough |pg|| nt|ntmon: at least they're on the same wavelenght|pg|| nt|roswolf: advance sac taken|pg|| nt|hedyg: XX doesnt even start to show this hand|pg|| nt|hedyg: it really makes no difference to their qualifications|pg|| nt|panja: but with @DQ off, it won't make...|pg|| nt|roswolf: once when behind in a match i passed a strong club with a hand like south's and earnt myself a big swing - 1@c was the only making contract!|pg|| nt|roswolf: i was a junior at the time of course!|pg|| pc|d4|nt|hedyg: still 9 tricks|pg|| nt|hedyg: ok, now 4@d|pg|| nt|roswolf: i agree hedy|pg|| nt|3for3: kokish basically believes there is no hand too strong to overcall. Rodwell doesn't see it that way here|pg|| pc|d8|nt|MolvaM: even if misguess|pg|| nt|hedyg: right|pg|| nt|hedyg: anything is fine as long as they avoid 5@ds|pg|| pc|d3|pg|| nt|roswolf: yup i think duboin was taking the time to light the proverbial cigarette|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|jcomyn: much of a muchness|pg|| nt|glen: i thought they played for lavazza and coffee|pg|| pc|d7|nt|roswolf: the grand is missed i fear|pg|| nt|hedyg: Thomas thinks XX shows 3 @ss only|pg|| nt|hedyg: with 4 card fit and singleton @c he had other bids available|pg|| nt|roswolf: meckwell will probably have a similar challenge in the other room|pg|| pc|d2|nt|blum1956: clear pass for North on 2@s from my point of view, but Pszczola is a world champion which I am not|pg|| nt|MolvaM: he could get 6 proverbial IMPs fine for that :)|pg|| nt|hedyg: strange not to correct to @s|pg|| nt|panja: the bidding doesn't really address this slam exploration...if W had @DQ instead of the @SQ, for example, it would have been a cold 6@C|pg|| pc|d5|pg|| nt|bobholl: may be true now too|pg|| pc|dJ|nt|leao: if he use the @s 10 as an entry he´ll be able to make one red siut finesse|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d6|pc|dA|pg|| nt|jfaria: Question is if 2nt GF W knows NS will win the auction , so no point in telling where the gold is..|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|roswolf: seems to gain a few imps|pg|| nt|bobholl: not that junior but only making contract :)|pg|| nt|leao: looks like that´s the plan|pg|| pc|s3|nt|mcarroll: they did well to stop below game, but even this is probably not going to make|pg|| pc|s5|nt|hedyg: seems Madala decided they would take no @H tricks if EW played|pg|| nt|glen: and the cash out stops at 4 tricks|pg|| nt|hedyg: better cash the K@H now|pg|| nt|jcomyn: wonder if n passes what happens|pg|| pc|sK|pg|| nt|roswolf: indeed|pg|| nt|leao: red suit=round suit|pg|| nt|leao: thats what i meant :)|pg|| nt|leao: no return is safe now|pg|| pc|hT|nt|ntmon: reaching 4@H X would not be problem on tables, where W passes and E opens with @S preeemt|pg|| nt|roswolf: well that may mean an imp to the israelis|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|hedyg: they took all their tricks|pg|| nt|dburn: always depressing for a defender when declarer wins your opening lead and swiftly returns the suit|pg|| pc|h3|nt|3for3: especially at NT!|pg|| pc|h5|pg|| nt|woozle: Fiona did well on lead with a trump...a heart (or club) lead would have cost a trick|pg|| nt|hedyg: it is like an insult|pg|| pc|s2|nt|blum1956: as opposite to 2@s which is makeable|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s7|nt|roswolf: nothing is much better here|pg|| nt|3for3: I like a low club better than the king|pg|| nt|dburn: happens to me all the time - my partner's card at trick one is suit preference, to tell me what I should have led|pg|| nt|roswolf: lol|pg|| nt|hedyg: lol|pg|| pc|s8|pg|| nt|leao: now he has both finesses|pg|| pc|d9|nt|jcomyn: coul.d have been plenty of action after all|pg|| pc|c2|nt|leao: ??????????????|pg|| pc|c7|nt|leao: aha|pg|| pc|h7|pg|| nt|hedyg: running scores: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswrunda7.html|pg|| nt|jfaria: another 3@d x ? :)|pg|| nt|roswolf: hmm perhaps not|pg|| nt|leao: lol|pg|| nt|bobholl: and will make so 1@C not only contract to make :)|pg|| pc|h4|nt|roswolf: ah le correction|pg|| pc|c3|nt|3for3: both of these teams will surely qualify for the KO's. Kamras was leading the field entering this match|pg|| nt|dburn: still, if he then plays on the suit you opened the bidding in, you can resign yourself to the fact that he'd probably have made it anyway|pg|| pc|h2|nt|leao: he worked too hard for this|pg|| pc|hA|pg|| nt|jcomyn: I think NS missed a big chance here|pg|| pc|s9|nt|jfaria: agree|pg|| nt|jcomyn: w gets butchered|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sT|pc|cT|pg|| nt|hedyg: Mahaffey in 2nd, Kamras in 3rd now|pg|| nt|leao: bravo|pg|| pc|c4|nt|ntmon: i wouldn't left 4@H undoubled|pg|| mc|8|nt|hedyg: Monaco A in the lead|pg|| pg|| qx|o5|st||md|3SJ98654HQT7DCAQJ7,ST3HK843DAJ96C542,SKHAJ95D8543CT863,SAQ72H62DKQT72CK9|sv|n|nt|jbgood: 6 back|pg|| nt|jeanhari: but hoping the defense to go wrong..?? small spade to the ten best chance|pg|| nt|khaled_m: yes|pg|| mb|p|mb|1D|mb|1S|mb|d|mb|p|mb|1N|nt|jbgood: especially since W couldnt have @s AK, @h Q and the @c king - that would be an opener and he did pass|pg|| mb|2C|mb|2D|nt|jeanhari: and @CK was needed there indeed|pg|| mb|3C|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s6|nt|jeanhari: -1 I suppose...|pg|| nt|jbgood: at least 1|pg|| nt|jeanhari: will play a spde from table and north must ruff|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg|| pc|d2|pc|s4|pc|dA|pc|d5|pg|| pc|sT|nt|jeanhari: moment of truth...|pg|| pc|d3|pc|s2|pc|s5|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c2|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c4|pc|c3|pc|c9|pg|| nt|jeanhari: well done by Kopecky|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c5|st||md|3SJ98654HQT7DCAQJ7,ST3HK843DAJ96C542,SKHAJ95D8543CT863,SAQ72H62DKQT72CK9|sv|n|nt|woozle: Maybe 4S here for EW, but there's work involved|pg|| nt|ntmon: the wrong result for Monacco atributed to their EW pair in OR|pg|| nt|athene: better lead a diamond against 6@H here|pg|| nt|granguru: 1Nt or 2@D NS|pg|| nt|rmb1: I only have a one-page system summary, so I don't know what 3@S meant, and whether 3NT was forced rebid|pg|| nt|bobholl: vwd|pg|| mb|p|nt|roswolf: yes for once not a lot of scope for action|pg|| nt|leao: hard for W to duck that @s queen|pg|| mb|1D|an| |nt|mcarroll: Lots of work|pg|| nt|mcarroll: lots of work needed|pg|| nt|ntmon: leader changes after each board |pg|| nt|athene: shouldn't be too hard though|pg|| nt|roswolf: another distributional fit|pg|| nt|roswolf: another pretty hand but only enough for game|pg|| nt|roswolf: yes sheer pertinacity as terence reese once remarked|pg|| mb|1S|mb|d|nt|woozle: only two certain losers, but I'm not sure how many winners|pg|| nt|roswolf: well the @D lead signposted|pg|| nt|athene: 3@D is GF raise with singleton|pg|| nt|roswolf: 3@D shows 1 singleton(unspecified) + gf i am told|pg|| nt|athene: some specs might be wondering why east didn't just double|pg|| nt|roswolf: another crazy poor suit overcall imo|pg|| mb|p|nt|athene: there are two possible explanations|pg|| nt|panja: the problem is with the 2Nt bid....whatever 3@S meant, W could hardly have crossed 3Nt...|pg|| nt|leao: so they bid game on board 3 in the other room|pg|| mb|1N|an| |nt|jcomyn: finding h here will be tricky|pg|| nt|jcomyn: and game on|pg|| nt|athene: firstly they might play x as t/o of hearts (unlikely)|pg|| nt|glen: the modern style: bid five card majors, count points later|pg|| nt|hedyg: 1NT= semi-forcing|pg|| nt|hedyg: 2NT general gametrial..|pg|| nt|dburn: 6@d has some sort of play - not sure how good a contract it is|pg|| nt|rmb1: On 17, EW found a minor-suit fit 3@D-1 for 3IMP|pg|| nt|leao: only excuse is he was 3rd in hand|pg|| nt|roswolf: :)|pg|| mb|p|nt|athene: secondly he just wants to emphasize he has real playing strength in diamonds so there might be a sac|pg|| nt|glen: the semi-forcing NT allows for opener, once having counted points, to pass to avoid trouble|pg|| nt|hedyg: the term semi-forcing will always be a puzzle to me|pg|| nt|roswolf: this seems easy +90|pg|| nt|hedyg: thus it is NOT forcing?|pg|| nt|hedyg: or just 4@H|pg|| nt|roswolf: i have noticed that the dutch are not conservative bidders|pg|| nt|leao: they are high enough|pg|| mb|p|nt|athene: whereas a lead-directing double could be as little as @DKQ10x or so|pg|| mb|p|nt|dburn: trumps 3-2 plus some work, I guess|pg|| pc|s6|nt|ntmon: much depends on methods now|pg|| nt|hedyg: notice no XX from Gino to show Kx in @D|pg|| nt|hedyg: i mean: it is either forcing or it isnt?|pg|| nt|granguru: correct|pg|| nt|MolvaM: so 1NT conventionally asks for point count? :)|pg|| nt|hedyg: ok ty|pg|| nt|roswolf: well your supposed to bid again if you have a decent hand very like drury without the guaranteed trump support|pg|| nt|hedyg: , see above |pg|| nt|glen: semi-forcing is a terrible term, but was meant to distinguish between 1NT not-forcing limited to about 10 pts, and the modern style where it can have game invite values|pg|| nt|jcomyn: has to pass surely|pg|| nt|jfaria: doubt trading a plus for a a minus|pg|| nt|leao: this shud make with the @s !!!!! finesse|pg|| nt|leao: no need to finesse now|pg|| pc|sT|nt|blum1956: not enough entries to make the @d s work and too bad @h distribution to crossruff effectively|pg|| nt|woozle: On the last board, Harding in the other room tried 3NT with the matching 4333s - down one also, but had chances for 10 in|pg|| nt|roswolf: brakes need to be applied now|pg|| nt|roswolf: simple auction|pg|| pc|sK|nt|hedyg: it is a terrible term indeed|pg|| nt|roswolf: but rarely does in my experience|pg|| nt|granguru: for me semif means "you may pass if you have a sub min hand or a min with a bal distr"|pg|| pc|sA|pg|| nt|3for3: i'd say more than some :)|pg|| nt|3for3: but the black JT's are very useful|pg|| nt|hedyg: iv) For the KO stage, teams not in the first eight rankings in the Swiss A are re-ranked from 9-32 according to seeding based on WBF/EBL masterpoints. The teams ranked 1-8 in the ...|pg|| nt|hedyg: Swiss A, in order, each pick a team from the rest of the teams seeded 9 to 32. After these first eight choices the right to select the opponent passes to the highest remaining ...|pg|| nt|hedyg: seeded team and so on until the bracket is completed. For the purposes of composing brackets the number in the bracket is |pg|| nt|hedyg: determined by the order of the selection|pg|| nt|dburn: if North leads a heart, you have to commit yourself at once - if he doesn't, you have some breathing room|pg|| nt|bobholl: when they start with 4@H and 4@C that won't make|pg|| nt|leao: well, if they´re good enuf to bid, they´re good enuf to lead|pg|| pc|d2|nt|roswolf: OTT|pg|| nt|athene: i guess one other advantage for 4@D over double is it takes some room away from opps|pg|| pc|c7|nt|dburn: 6@d by East may be better than 6@d by West for that reason, but there's not a lot the Swedes can do about that now|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d3|pg|| nt|mcarroll: which red suit to try is the question|pg|| pc|dJ|nt|ntmon: very lucky for NS|pg|| pc|d4|nt|woozle: A bit sad here that the third diamond will be ruffed with the short defensive trumps|pg|| nt|dburn: if Rodwell does lead a heart, he should choose the eight and not the jack|pg|| pc|d7|nt|dburn: since he probably would not lead the jack from KJ|pg|| nt|dburn: now, though, declarer may need to pick a black suit|pg|| nt|hedyg: easier for us, as usual|pg|| nt|3for3: those black suits look very similar..|pg|| nt|panja: this could still go down...|pg|| nt|bobholl: but a @H lead is only DD|pg|| nt|roswolf: lots of imps changing hands here|pg|| pc|cQ|pg|| pc|d6|nt|athene: ok, it looks here as though madala has shown a diamond control|pg|| nt|panja: after @DA..EW cash Clubs and exit with @S...|pg|| pc|d5|nt|roswolf: i think n/s were reckless here although who was to blame we may never know|pg|| pc|dT|nt|leao: yes, no flat board yet|pg|| nt|leao: good spectator sport|pg|| pc|h7|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|jfaria: But S really has got hte better hand... everybody talking...|pg|| pc|hT|pc|d9|nt|jcomyn: sure is i would find KJ10 on my left|pg|| nt|panja: and then on small @H by South, E wins @HQ and plays small...S might misguess|pg|| nt|rmb1: May get home with 2 @S, 4 @D, 1 @C|pg|| pc|d8|pg|| pc|dK|pc|s4|nt|hedyg: as 1 spec says, declarer can test BOTH black suits|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c3|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hQ|nt|hedyg: voila|pg|| nt|hedyg: now pull 2 trumps|pg|| nt|dburn: he can play for a doubleton queen in either black suit, yes|pg|| nt|panja: not the second @S really..|pg|| pc|h3|nt|panja: S will get a @H instead|pg|| pc|h9|pg|| pc|sJ|nt|jcomyn: interesting b idding in open room to 4h|pg|| pc|s3|pc|c6|pc|sQ|pg|| nt|panja: but the defence was very very soft..|pg|| nt|leao: and 7 tricks|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s9|nt|3for3: now he has to worry about 4-1 diamonds, not sure he can do a thing about that though.|pg|| nt|panja: not cashing @C was not a great option really|pg|| pc|c4|nt|ntmon: OR bidding unclear to me - unless 1@D shows @H|pg|| pc|c8|pg|| nt|leao: no... 8. wd|pg|| mc|8|nt|hedyg: can claim now|pg|| nt|roswolf: yes nice endplay|pg|| nt|bobholl: gets his @C trick|pg|| pg|| qx|o6|st||md|4SA8HQ9652DA98CQ63,SKQ92HAK8DT4CK754,ST654HT7DKJ72CJ92,SJ73HJ43DQ653CAT8|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|d|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h2|nt|jbgood: so they found NS' best fit:)|pg|| nt|khaled_m: offshape double vul causing problems|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hT|pc|hJ|pg|| nt|jeanhari: but 1NT could be dangerous to with minimum values|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d8|pc|d4|pc|dJ|pg|| nt|jbgood: both W and E might have bid 1 NT:)|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d5|pc|dA|pc|dT|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|h7|pc|h3|pg|| pc|hA|pc|d7|pc|h4|pc|h6|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d6|pc|d9|pc|c4|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|c6|st||md|4SA8HQ9652DA98CQ63,SKQ92HAK8DT4CK754,ST654HT7DKJ72CJ92,SJ73HJ43DQ653CAT8|sv|e|nt|ntmon: anyway 2IMP for better game to Lavazza|pg|| nt|jcomyn: probably and then 3d forcing with at least 5-5|pg|| nt|hedyg: a Zia cuebid of 5@D|pg|| nt|athene: is bocchi teaching madala some interesting italian phrases at high speed now? if so, chances are, it was south's fault|pg|| nt|roswolf: another routine game hand|pg|| nt|glen: may see some italian science here|pg|| nt|granguru: but it has some second meaning here. idont have a great hand and 3cards to raise you|pg|| nt|hedyg: and new leader|pg|| nt|3for3: shall they try 6@D again?|pg|| nt|rmb1: 4@H - only have to avoid 6@H|pg|| mb|p|nt|roswolf: didnt work - it is good to see that the top players are also mere mortals:)|pg|| mb|1H|nt|MolvaM: maybe the 4-1 trumps could bring some action|pg|| nt|roswolf: this could get feisty|pg|| nt|dburn: number 11 buses, these - you can't make six diamonds for hours, and then two come at once|pg|| nt|jfaria: a nice unlucky game 4 EW|pg|| nt|jfaria: both red cards misplaced|pg|| nt|jcomyn: very unlucky but should be push|pg|| nt|Walddk5: Welcome to Andy|pg|| mb|1N|nt|3for3: this looks better than the last one|pg|| nt|leao: looks like another partscore hand|pg|| mb|p|nt|roswolf: or obsfuscation more like|pg|| nt|andyv: good evening all|pg|| mb|2C|an| |nt|hedyg: we have been seeing a lot of that|pg|| nt|jfaria: hi Andy|pg|| nt|andyv: hi Joao:)|pg|| mb|p|nt|hedyg: XX= Hx(x) in @H|pg|| nt|jcomyn: hey i am old enough already without taking a few hours off me. MORNING so|pg|| mb|2S|an| |nt|glen: 2@C is the science|pg|| nt|panja: and play carefully..on @D lead, for example..you have to go up with @DA, remove trumps and hope @C suit gives you a trick|pg|| nt|leao: he´ll invite 3NT, and it shudnt be accepted|pg|| nt|bobholl: 2nt all pass i guess|pg|| nt|roswolf: srtange move by east with a flat 8 count|pg|| nt|leao: and 2 jacks|pg|| mb|p|nt|3for3: 6@H a good save here.|pg|| nt|andyv: :)|pg|| mb|2N|nt|athene: 2@C is a reverse inverted minor - it shows a raise to the two-level|pg|| nt|roswolf: 2@c rather than 1@d was an interesting choice|pg|| nt|hedyg: bd 4 Fantunes in 7@s|pg|| nt|dburn: now, if West can bid 4@h as a sort of "last train" or "Bluhmer"...|pg|| nt|roswolf: the red bars goad the players again|pg|| nt|bobholl: if opponents points all in one hand you need less to make/invite|pg|| mb|p|nt|glen: natural or 16/17+ many hand types|pg|| nt|leao: id pass this (and perhaps apologize later)|pg|| mb|p|nt|woozle: Pepsi bids only 2NT...he apparently has lower standards for vulnerable 2H bids than I do|pg|| nt|woozle: Seamon-Molson raises to say "yes, I did overcall vulnerable"|pg|| nt|mcarroll: and the @S Ten is a vital asset|pg|| nt|woozle: I suppose she would never have raised without it|pg|| nt|dburn: ...which apparently he can...|pg|| nt|panja: and now, on @C lead by E.....this would go down|pg|| nt|rmb1: 3@S splinter|pg|| nt|rmb1: 4@D cue |pg|| nt|panja: right, and 4@D cue...so @C lead is automatic...|pg|| mb|p|nt|mcarroll: :)|pg|| nt|jcomyn: now thats aggressive but i suppose the 5-card suit is useful|pg|| nt|jcomyn: H lead?|pg|| nt|roswolf: nice contract|pg|| nt|dburn: ...then East-West have a chance|pg|| nt|hedyg: he knows his hcps, though not heavy , are good|pg|| nt|3for3: not sure what rodwell's double of 4@H was, but it will make it easier, as now east can show heart control.|pg|| nt|hedyg: Upmarks XX= 1st rd control|pg|| nt|jfaria: played by the "wrong" side, S on lead could try a @d|pg|| nt|andyv: 3@h probably shows any 4 card without strength being a factor|pg|| nt|roswolf: i would pass and NOT apologise|pg|| pc|hT|nt|ntmon: actually E hand is rather strong in 15-17 range|pg|| nt|ntmon: roles home now|pg|| nt|jcomyn: rolls even|pg|| nt|ntmon: rolls* :)|pg|| nt|glen: 2@S was natural, usually 2@Ss, less than 8|pg|| nt|roswolf: for once i understand their bidding:)|pg|| nt|jfaria: think W will try the @h and will delay @d till the end|pg|| nt|leao: it wud look better with the @h 10|pg|| nt|roswolf: it has been led the 8 will do!|pg|| nt|leao: but the 8 is a nice card to have for West|pg|| pc|h3|nt|glen: 3@H was the big hand, natural|pg|| nt|hedyg: 2@c either nat or any strong hand|pg|| nt|hedyg: according to the CC|pg|| pc|h2|nt|hedyg: then 3@H= strong hand with @s+@H|pg|| nt|hedyg: impressive bidding|pg|| nt|bobholl: no cover :(|pg|| pc|hK|pg|| nt|dburn: good bid, that|pg|| nt|3for3: well done ew|pg|| nt|dburn: still, even if West had only bid five, East might have bid six|pg|| nt|andyv: may lead @ss twice to hand|pg|| nt|jfaria: now @s|pg|| nt|jcomyn: exactly|pg|| nt|andyv: even dbl dummy can't see a way to strip the hand and throw S in to break the @d suit|pg|| nt|leao: not now|pg|| pc|s2|nt|roswolf: i didnt expect this contract|pg|| nt|roswolf: should go -1|pg|| nt|hedyg: would you bid 1NT as W over 1@D?|pg|| pc|s4|nt|roswolf: wierd e/e are still on tilt|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sA|pg|| nt|roswolf: no i wouldnt|pg|| nt|hedyg: hmm maybe that is a xfer too|pg|| nt|3for3: aha. the save is found.|pg|| nt|bobholl: 9 has 5 to 2 chance to be in south :)|pg|| nt|leao: cud be|pg|| nt|roswolf: or even e/w|pg|| nt|leao: :)|pg|| nt|leao: if N had 109 in @h he can block the suit at some stage|pg|| nt|leao: "he" meanind declarer|pg|| nt|leao: meanind=meaning|pg|| nt|leao: @d and @h back?|pg|| pc|d8|nt|jcomyn: h lkead d switch and another h but who would find that|pg|| nt|roswolf: ah a natural raise you mean bill:)|pg|| nt|hedyg: "only" -5?|pg|| pc|d4|nt|jfaria: that doesnt solve the problem, but maybe a favourable ending can be reached better that 50% chance after @h fails|pg|| nt|andyv: dbl dummy can' take the @h hook|pg|| nt|bobholl: that's DD analysis and they do it :)|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d3|pg|| nt|dburn: only four, I think|pg|| nt|hedyg: oh only 4|pg|| nt|hedyg: cheap!|pg|| nt|3for3: 8 easy aces|pg|| nt|jfaria: S must not try a @d now|pg|| nt|jcomyn: club exit|pg|| nt|andyv: he has 2 easy exits so no need to rush @d|pg|| pc|h7|nt|athene: it's good to see people raising clubs|pg|| nt|athene: doesn't happen often :)|pg|| nt|roswolf: yes of course they play transfers over 1@C -doh:(|pg|| nt|jcomyn: oh no|pg|| nt|andyv: but what do I know|pg|| nt|jfaria: MUST NOT :(|pg|| nt|jcomyn: why do that with 2 easy options|pg|| nt|jfaria: now there is a psic warfare|pg|| nt|andyv: now West has to think since S wasn't being forced to lead @d that he may be underleading his Ace. |pg|| nt|jfaria: Should accept the gift and let run to J?|pg|| nt|andyv: I don't think it's a gift|pg|| pc|h4|nt|jcomyn: and bocchi-Madala found that defence in open room|pg|| nt|andyv: well done|pg|| nt|jcomyn: yes but could s be underleading the ace - unlikely|pg|| nt|jfaria: as the cards lie it is|pg|| pc|h9|nt|woozle: Fiona decided that spades aren't promising on lead, so tries a surprise attack in clubs. Pepsi is surprised, but not so surprised that he will forget to take his now ten top tricks|pg|| pc|hA|pg|| nt|ntmon: well deserved|pg|| nt|jcomyn: led d first and then h|pg|| nt|jcomyn: very good but i wont lead a s whatever else|pg|| nt|jfaria: so Maha didnt gave credit to the duch jr|pg|| nt|panja: @C6 by West..the middle card...this must be neutral card|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s5|nt|hedyg: fine bidding all around|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s8|pg|| nt|jfaria: and took the gift|pg|| nt|leao: @s wont split|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|andyv: one of the few times opps did something that was actually for declarer's benefit|pg|| pc|s6|nt|hedyg: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswleaderb.html|pg|| pc|s7|nt|MolvaM: kamras thinking?|pg|| nt|hedyg: hardly|pg|| nt|VugraphPLA: i did mistake , he should not have 7 of spade now |pg|| pc|d9|pg|| pc|h8|nt|leao: bold|pg|| pc|c2|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|h6|pc|c7|pc|c9|pc|d5|pg|| nt|ntmon: i have some sympathy - @S looks as a safe lead after invitational sequence|pg|| pc|h5|nt|rmb1: Playing for @SKxx|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d2|nt|leao: no suicide squeeze, though|pg|| pc|c8|pg|| pc|dA|nt|hedyg: Tadeusz! you are teasing us lol|pg|| mc|7|nt|hedyg: why?|pg|| nt|roswolf: :)|pg|| pg|| qx|o7|st||md|1SKT6HK8742DAK4CQ6,SJ2HAQT965D72CT73,SA54HJ3DJ653CAKJ9,SQ9873HDQT98C8542|sv|b|nt|jeanhari: closed room probably -1 in 2NT so a push|pg|| mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2N!|an|GF|nt|jeanhari: maybe even -2|pg|| mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|nt|khaled_m: 29 combined count and no sure 9th trick|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|khaled_m: The lead might give away a trick|pg|| nt|khaled_m: if its a spade|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d3|nt|jeanhari: but a heart to the jach will provide a ninth trick...|pg|| pc|d8|pc|dA|pg|| pc|h2|nt|khaled_m: Now will the lead mislead declarer|pg|| nt|jeanhari: cannot see decl play anything else|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h3|nt|khaled_m: what was @D@@ lead|pg|| nt|khaled_m: @d2|pg|| pc|s7|pg|| pc|hA|pc|hJ|nt|jeanhari: 2nd and 4th|pg|| pc|c2|pc|h4|pg|| pc|d7|nt|khaled_m: second from doubleton also?|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dQ|nt|jeanhari: looks like it :)|pg|| pc|d4|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dK|pc|c3|pc|d5|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h5|pc|s4|pc|s3|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c7|pc|c9|pc|c4|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cT|pc|cJ|pc|c5|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c8|pc|h7|pc|h6|pg|| pc|cA|nt|jbgood: E finished now|pg|| pc|s8|pc|h8|pc|h9|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s9|pc|s6|mc|9|pg|| qx|c7|st||md|1SKT6HK8742DAK4CQ6,SJ2HAQT965D72CT73,SA54HJ3DJ653CAKJ9,SQ9873HDQT98C8542|sv|b|nt|woozle: Can make eleven tricks in spades EW by squeezing south in the red suits|pg|| nt|blum1956: If North opens a strong 1NT, what will West bid&|pg|| nt|blum1956: ?|pg|| nt|woozle: North much too strong for a strong notrump...although at favourable I might open 2NT|pg|| nt|woozle: A strong notrump is the second best preempt in bridge, after 2NT|pg|| nt|woozle: Is Pepsi deep in the tank, or is this a coffee break?|pg|| nt|blum1956: This time 1@c is the worst option for North - East may even preempt in @s s wich solves the problem for EW|pg|| nt|jcomyn: but nobody bid h - or s I suppose, so|pg|| nt|ntmon: Lavazza builds a sound, deserved lead|pg|| nt|MolvaM: better take the shortcut :)|pg|| nt|hedyg: ok np|pg|| nt|hedyg: just wanted to see if we were awake?|pg|| nt|roswolf: a simple pass would have earnt a nice 5 imp swing|pg|| nt|bobholl: first push :)|pg|| nt|leao: rite|pg|| mb|1N|nt|Walddk4: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswrunda5.html running now|pg|| nt|3for3: certainly interesting hands..|pg|| nt|rmb1: Netherland Juniour tried 6@C -1 on 19, another 11IMP to Mahaffey.|pg|| nt|panja: B21, 3N does not make for NS..but they have 27 HCP..so they will try to bid some game...|pg|| mb|2D|an| |nt|athene: 4@D would be a splinter we assume|pg|| nt|athene: but he might not want to do that with a singleton ace|pg|| nt|roswolf: south will brush the intervention aside|pg|| nt|roswolf: this might be carnage|pg|| nt|hedyg: Mahaffey has dropped to 6th|pg|| nt|dburn: 2@d one major|pg|| nt|3for3: 4@D the other?|pg|| nt|roswolf: now this might end up in carnage|pg|| nt|leao: another one... agree|pg|| nt|leao: this has to be @h, no?|pg|| nt|bobholl: guess multi|pg|| mb|3S|an| |nt|athene: 3@D will be a spade raise anyway; presumably 3@C would be hearts|pg|| nt|hedyg: unusual vs unusual|pg|| nt|3for3: :)|pg|| nt|jcomyn: might try 3nt|pg|| nt|andyv: yes, very tempting|pg|| nt|roswolf: west is on some sort of trip if he overcalls 1nt on that rubbish|pg|| nt|leao: so they mite end up in @s.... less dreadful|pg|| mb|p|nt|hedyg: 3@d showing invite + in @s|pg|| nt|roswolf: south should pass|pg|| nt|MolvaM: sementa's pass says what? I have diamonds? |pg|| nt|roswolf: they will play in 4@H|pg|| nt|hedyg: running scores: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswrunda6.html|pg|| nt|roswolf: the auction in the other room was ultimately a phantom|pg|| nt|dburn: Cullin lurking|pg|| nt|andyv: but dblton in @s may slow him down|pg|| nt|panja: EW, of course, might create obstacles in their path and save them|pg|| nt|leao: hu-oh|pg|| mb|3N|nt|jcomyn: and can add toit here|pg|| nt|hedyg: 3@c would be invite + in @h|pg|| nt|roswolf: he has sufficient defence|pg|| nt|MolvaM: or just that he has nothing to say|pg|| nt|andyv: interesting problem for W|pg|| nt|leao: 3NT will NOT be a good contract|pg|| mb|p|nt|woozle: Fiona, bids the routine (at this vul) 2S|pg|| nt|roswolf: to the limit for west|pg|| nt|andyv: most prudent is 4@c|pg|| nt|jfaria: he has got the "expected"|pg|| mb|p|nt|mcarroll: well predicted!|pg|| nt|roswolf: west must make his own arrangements|pg|| nt|andyv: enterprising is 4@h|pg|| nt|jfaria: 4@c looks ok to me|pg|| mb|p|nt|woozle: McGann takes the quick path to game|pg|| nt|roswolf: good judgment|pg|| nt|athene: does bocchi have to find the diamond lead for 500 here?|pg|| nt|dburn: trying to look like a man saving in 4@s|pg|| nt|panja: you mean board 18...6@C|pg|| nt|roswolf: north ignores the diversion|pg|| pc|h9|nt|hedyg: maybe this is a hand t show invite + in @H and when d bids @H bid @s to show both majors|pg|| nt|roswolf: the noose tightens|pg|| nt|hedyg: surely he has no 4 cards in any other suit than @d|pg|| nt|hedyg: some superbergen|pg|| nt|jcomyn: oops|pg|| nt|roswolf: and disappears up his own exhaust|pg|| nt|leao: maybe, even with a @h lead...|pg|| nt|leao: it will make now|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|athene: hmmm ok this looks as though bocchi made a forcing pass and now a slam try in spades which is surely a bit optimistic with his hand|pg|| nt|roswolf: south tempted to bid on!?|pg|| nt|MolvaM: duboins hand looked so good after rho opened 1@d. now it looks not so attractive|pg|| nt|hedyg: oy vey!|pg|| nt|roswolf: high noon shoot out|pg|| nt|glen: sementa rips up cards and leaves table|pg|| nt|MolvaM: a void usually means action|pg|| nt|roswolf: blood will flow but whose is not clear|pg|| nt|hedyg: why XX?|pg|| nt|glen: actual it is xxxx since previous xx|pg|| nt|hedyg: surely if Sementa had a better suit he would have bid it?|pg|| pc|s8|nt|roswolf: now dbl?|pg|| nt|dburn: Meckstroth has seen his sort before, though|pg|| nt|3for3: well, his hand suggests bidding too |pg|| nt|hedyg: 1NT= 14-16|pg|| nt|hedyg: it is an upgrade|pg|| nt|roswolf: or 13 actually:)|pg|| nt|hedyg: as usual in your singleton|pg|| nt|VugraphPLA: jaki wynik , wyniki w necie nie dzialaja |pg|| nt|andyv: with 5 losers, it's too much to ask for a passed hand to cover 3 of them|pg|| nt|panja: 1@S seems like denying a 4 M...I am not sure it shows @D Suit ...|pg|| nt|rmb1: 1@S part of transfer-response structure to 1@C - denies either major|pg|| pc|h2|pg|| nt|roswolf: good judgment again|pg|| nt|hedyg: trying to put N under pressure?|pg|| nt|VugraphPLA: oops|pg|| nt|jfaria: looks like we r watching a "all jr" TM :)|pg|| nt|jfaria: optimism galore|pg|| nt|andyv: interesting way of saying "oops", Tad:)|pg|| nt|jcomyn: hey leave the irish to me|pg|| nt|roswolf: yes even i would make this|pg|| pc|c9|nt|roswolf: will n/s run out of red cards|pg|| pc|c2|nt|jcomyn: but very difficult|pg|| nt|ntmon: EW in OR might know that they're behind, so try to push|pg|| nt|panja: only 8 tricks for NS..bu cashing Diamonds might lead to some useful situation|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|hedyg: passssssssssssssss|pg|| nt|hedyg: surely no need to correct to 2@H!|pg|| nt|roswolf: might give preference|pg|| nt|roswolf: oh well 2 imps to the swedes|pg|| pc|c3|pg|| nt|hedyg: cannot be a forcing pass opposite what might be just invite|pg|| nt|glen: i still think ripping up cards will result in lowest possible minus score|pg|| nt|MolvaM: well 8 card fit is better than nothing|pg|| nt|hedyg: oh no !|pg|| nt|hedyg: might try 3NT after X of 3@D?|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c7|nt|MolvaM: ahh it goes on|pg|| nt|roswolf: frying pan into fire|pg|| nt|panja: unlikey here though, EW don't seem to have any interesting option for discarding differently..|pg|| nt|panja: W will sluff @H, E will sluff @H|pg|| nt|rmb1: Might try a @H now|pg|| nt|panja: try and slip @H trick through East?|pg|| pc|cJ|nt|athene: well it can be if you agree it is|pg|| pc|c4|pg|| nt|hedyg: what?|pg|| nt|MolvaM: 5 card fit now|pg|| nt|hedyg: are we watching the right board?|pg|| nt|glen: now there are fires, and there is this|pg|| nt|roswolf: this would be funny a5-0 fit|pg|| nt|hedyg: would be?|pg|| nt|roswolf: you shouldnt laugh at a funeral|pg|| nt|hedyg: ok folks! see? it can happen to anybody!|pg|| nt|MolvaM: if duboin had not rdbl'd it would have benn just ok|pg|| nt|hedyg: next time i play in my cuebid i must try to remember this moment|pg|| nt|roswolf: the italian will be x -rated in the post mortem|pg|| nt|MolvaM: looks like hand from the menagerie where both sides can play 2@dX|pg|| pc|cK|nt|roswolf: low trump to start|pg|| nt|granguru: diagnostic?|pg|| nt|glen: the best thing for NS to do after the hand is leave table, then come back when decibel level is below 120|pg|| nt|hedyg: call an ambulance|pg|| nt|granguru: --4?|pg|| nt|roswolf: gib says -7 dd|pg|| nt|granguru: ducking is best here|pg|| nt|hedyg: desperately looking for an entry to his hand|pg|| nt|roswolf: well if slam is on for n/s i still tale the penalty 1700|pg|| pc|c5|nt|Walddk5: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswrunda3.html|pg|| nt|roswolf: take|pg|| pc|h4|nt|hedyg: it is only when Madala doubles that he is better than invite|pg|| nt|3for3: a little chancy for cullin to double. is meck is 0-2 in the blacks, might be cold, or his side could be making. |pg|| nt|hedyg: just dont play @D|pg|| nt|hedyg: 10@H was discouraging|pg|| nt|hedyg: in this situation it just denies the ace|pg|| nt|hedyg: seemed easier to disc 10@D|pg|| pc|cT|pg|| pc|s4|nt|hedyg: if the 3@D bid had been gf, then it would have been a forcing pass|pg|| nt|athene: it's reasonable enough to play pass forcing if you showed at least game invite values and opps go to 5-level; 99% of the time they are advance saccing|pg|| pc|s3|nt|hedyg: too bad it isnt on?|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sJ|pg|| nt|jcomyn: joao it is go leor|pg|| nt|roswolf: in fact iwould claim 10 west is endplayed in hearts|pg|| nt|leao: but he wud have to extract the @d first|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dJ|nt|roswolf: the vampires gather for their feast|pg|| nt|jfaria: singleton lead with singleton trump :) but avoiding the looser @d lead|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|jcomyn: see you even get language lessons on this show|pg|| pc|dA|pg|| pc|sK|nt|glen: (promo for HBO true blood new season)|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s5|nt|woozle: Squeeze is broken up if North wins the second spade and leads a red suit - can't get off dummy without losing a menace|pg|| pc|s7|pg|| nt|roswolf: lol|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d7|pc|d3|pc|d8|pg|| nt|bobholl: will still happen :)|pg|| nt|roswolf: yup|pg|| nt|leao: yes|pg|| mc|10|nt|VugraphPLA: a little break :) |pg|| pg|| qx|o8|st||md|2ST93HT87DAJ85CAJ2,SAKHQ943DK7C98543,SQ764HAK2DQT943C7,SJ852HJ65D62CKQT6|sv|o|nt|jbgood: he made an overtrick??|pg|| nt|jeanhari: I think he did|pg|| nt|khaled_m: yeah we were talking of 9 trick|pg|| nt|jbgood: perhaps operator will check that|pg|| mb|1C|mb|d|nt|vugraphpl5: sorry|pg|| nt|jbgood: he had the squeeze for 10 if what we saw really took place|pg|| nt|vugraphpl5: now it is ok|pg|| nt|jbgood: np Joanna!:)|pg|| mb|1H|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|2D|mb|3C|nt|khaled_m: with 5 diamonds should not have problem bidding|pg|| nt|khaled_m: forget about 11 count|pg|| nt|jeanhari: Verhees in the closed room got a heart lead and stripped west to get his overtrick too|pg|| nt|jbgood: looks as if the Dutchmen play transfers after 1 @c (anybody has a name? transclub? Clansfer?)|pg|| nt|jeanhari: have to go for a moment, be back in twenty minutes|pg|| mb|4C|mb|d|mb|r|mb|p|nt|jbgood: suggestions ticking in - tu all, no agreement as far as I can see, but transfer walsh a strong favorite|pg|| mb|4D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|s3|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|s5|pc|s9|pg|| nt|jbgood: and a kib says: "no, they don't play Twalsh I believe. They switch @H and @S, even after 1@D opening I believe"|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c7|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|d3|pc|c6|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d2|pc|d5|pc|dK|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d4|pc|d6|pc|dJ|pg|| nt|khaled_m: And a @h trick for 1 down|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c5|pc|d9|pc|cT|pg|| nt|khaled_m: overboard unnecessary. Only had 3@D bid|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c8|st||md|2ST93HT87DAJ85CAJ2,SAKHQ943DK7C98543,SQ764HAK2DQT943C7,SJ852HJ65D62CKQT6|sv|o|nt|woozle: OK, no squeeze if you don't play off your trumps...it's like half-strangling somebody|pg|| nt|3for3: as long as rodwell didnt play @D all ok. He had no reason to against 5@S undoubled. If Meck had doubled, might have been looking for extra 200 point undertricks. here the goal ...|pg|| nt|3for3: was a modest +50|pg|| nt|jfaria: hard to play at Meckwell speed, they are at least 2 boards ahead|pg|| nt|jcomyn: cards very nicely placed here but still only 3nt bid|pg|| nt|panja: 6@H on one of two finesses...good 6@H really for EW|pg|| nt|bobholl: they smoke tadeusz ?|pg|| nt|leao: 2@c EW or 3@d NS... any other possibilities?|pg|| nt|bobholl: 4@D in other room migth go down :)|pg|| nt|leao: here it is again :)|pg|| nt|roswolf: ah we now have 8|pg|| mb|1N|an| |nt|jcomyn: yes normal contract |pg|| nt|athene: but we just don't know the NS agreements here (or i don't anyway) :)|pg|| nt|andyv: 5-5 hand|pg|| mb|p|nt|roswolf: lots of hcp but not much chance of a slam|pg|| nt|athene: i don't understand the last hand|pg|| nt|athene: if west just holds up his @SA isn't he beating 5@S?|pg|| nt|hedyg: he is, needs to hold up twice|pg|| nt|athene: he ducks twice - now if bocchi plays another trump he takes the ace and plays a fourth and the club ruff goes|pg|| nt|VugraphPLA: TD was called , Ginossar think 5s was -1 |pg|| nt|athene: if bocchi ruffs a club himself, then west can simply force the south hand in clubs|pg|| nt|hedyg: Tadeusz, did Gino duck the A@S?|pg|| nt|athene: maybe bocchi claimed 11 or something and west agreed without really thinking it through|pg|| nt|athene: seems unlikely though|pg|| nt|roswolf: indeed|pg|| nt|roswolf: but fatigue does play its part|pg|| nt|hedyg: not that unlikely, only 4-0 @ss could beat him|pg|| nt|hedyg: so he might well have played a @s from hand and claimed|pg|| nt|VugraphPLA: Well i haven't seen , Bocchi has just claimed|pg|| nt|hedyg: ok so we will wait, once declarer claims all play stops and you call the TD if you dont agree|pg|| nt|VugraphPLA: We are waiting for decision |pg|| nt|roswolf: one fir the bulletin i think as do a few others!:)|pg|| nt|3for3: Is Upmark from the Steve Robinson school...All 5 card majors? Otherwise, I prefer 1@D with this shape|pg|| nt|hedyg: LOL|pg|| nt|hedyg: me 2|pg|| nt|jcomyn: 2nt-3nt|pg|| nt|roswolf: that is a horrible 1nt|pg|| mb|p|nt|jcomyn: might try 3nt here a behind bid|pg|| nt|hedyg: must be from the same family|pg|| mb|p|nt|dburn: may not be so easy to stay low enough - that 1@s might turn out to waste space rather than save it|pg|| nt|roswolf: yes 1@D for me too|pg|| nt|3for3: it often does|pg|| nt|dburn: still, it seems that West can use relays of some kind, rather than have the auction start 1@s-2@h-3@d|pg|| pc|dT|nt|MolvaM: living thru this at the table is bad, but worse will come during scoring when you say minus 1400 |pg|| nt|roswolf: yes 3nt much superior|pg|| nt|hedyg: 2@c gf relay|pg|| nt|roswolf: but no difficulty bidding game|pg|| nt|bobholl: if you are playing 11-13 it is not :)|pg|| pc|d2|nt|hedyg: 2NT= 8-10 ZZ with a singleton|pg|| nt|3for3: how do you find 6@D opposite Q@S, A@H, a @D honor and A@C?|pg|| nt|roswolf: they wont gey overboard either|pg|| nt|hedyg: ZZ points..|pg|| nt|3for3: or even less with better diamond fit|pg|| nt|hedyg: A=3, K=2 and Q=1|pg|| nt|panja: against, after the 'offside' 2Nt bid..it might be difficult to bid it with conviction....but likely, W will push it|pg|| pc|dA|nt|woozle: McGann has been there before - the big preempt putting pressure on NS in exchange for losing an occasional miracle slam|pg|| nt|glen: 2NT now?|pg|| nt|roswolf: n/s on the previous bd are playing in 5@D|pg|| nt|roswolf: IN THE OTHER ROOM|pg|| nt|andyv: with @h lead, N can get 3 @h tricks|pg|| nt|panja: that is, push it upwards|pg|| nt|rmb1: Is 2NT OK here ?|pg|| pc|d7|pg|| nt|jcomyn: lots of controls in n hand why not 2nt|pg|| nt|dburn: but an initial 1@d would not have shown diamonds, and if East can show what he has by responding to relays, 1@s may lead to an easier auction all round|pg|| nt|hedyg: 3@c relay|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dK|nt|woozle: Pepsi chooses to go quietly with his 17-count, fearing that a double will be pulled too often|pg|| nt|roswolf: nice judgment here|pg|| nt|MolvaM: well it must be makable since NS took 11 tricks here|pg|| nt|roswolf: this is dangerous|pg|| nt|dburn: well, it looks dangerous, but they probably have it under control|pg|| nt|3for3: this is one of the things that makes bridge hard to 'sell' to the general public.|pg|| nt|panja: ok to upgrade a point...even if your range is 20-21|pg|| nt|roswolf: ok maximum then|pg|| pc|d3|nt|roswolf: e/w will need a lot of the captain's coffee at the end of this match she wont be very sympathetic|pg|| nt|jfaria: think W may be squeezed on the reds|pg|| pc|d6|pg|| nt|hedyg: "please continue to play, i will give you my decision"|pg|| nt|3for3: Even expert commentators have no clue what is happening|pg|| nt|panja: but I don't quite like the 2Nt opening itself.........it is an 'offside' opening, to borrow a term from football, too far too soon, a self-preemptive...|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c7|nt|woozle: If the match were closer, he probably would have acted|pg|| nt|blum1956: This is a partscore board besides McGann has another opinion))|pg|| nt|ntmon: NS play negative frre bids (NFB) after intervention, so S has extras and N accepts|pg|| nt|jcomyn: agree but prefer playing from n|pg|| nt|roswolf: lol:)|pg|| nt|hedyg: 4@C showing short?|pg|| nt|hedyg: what about @H?|pg|| pc|cK|nt|hedyg: i am sure there is no bid to show both singletons|pg|| nt|dburn: I expect that by now West knows what East has|pg|| nt|3for3: 4@C was probably 5161 with a stiff DUECE of hearts :)|pg|| nt|rmb1: If 4@D is purely choise of games then East must bid 4@H, If 4@D has slam try overtones surely East must bid on with a fit for both suits|pg|| pc|c2|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sT|nt|granguru: Duboin should have passed 1@H doubled but I give sementa the greatest part of guilt.for not passing 2@C.|pg|| nt|hedyg: Swedish experts think he showed exact pattern, thus wasted hcps in W hand|pg|| nt|dburn: people don't spend months and years devising these methods just to make life difficult for the commentators|pg|| nt|dburn: they do it because it helps them reach more right contracts than wrong ones|pg|| pc|sA|nt|jfaria: but that would require a perfect dd play by N I think|pg|| pc|s4|pg|| pc|c5|nt|jcomyn: h lead from w would n ot be nice|pg|| nt|hedyg: a lot of messages from specs about the last board|pg|| nt|roswolf: i agree with that 1@HX probably not too bad|pg|| nt|granguru: although 2@C is probably -4 |pg|| nt|glen: would make a fun "you be the judge" in the "the bridge world"|pg|| nt|leao: oops|pg|| nt|roswolf: suckered into it|pg|| nt|leao: his main trick source has just sprung a leak|pg|| pc|s6|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pg|| pc|h8|nt|ntmon: sure, @H better for defence but again .. not easy|pg|| nt|hedyg: it is quite clear: if the A@S is ducked twice he cannot make 5@ss|pg|| pc|h3|nt|granguru: it will surely appear in some more years|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h5|pg|| nt|jcomyn: anyone know the ages of the dutch juniors|pg|| nt|bobholl: only @H now will result in loss for netherlands white|pg|| nt|leao: does pard know about the @d?|pg|| nt|bobholl: can he read the @H 8 i doubt it and he doesn't know the @D situation|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|jcomyn: d and small c and pray|pg|| nt|ntmon: actually case is good after lead from @SA|pg|| nt|jcomyn: going to the wire|pg|| nt|granguru: I will send the hand ..@H|pg|| nt|roswolf: yes but might be censored as not beinf suitable for a family audience|pg|| nt|granguru: :)|pg|| nt|glen: nowadays, likely up on bridgewinners and/or bridgetopics in 1 day|pg|| pc|c6|nt|jcomyn: cant be thinking anything but a s|pg|| nt|leao: now unblock...|pg|| pc|d8|pc|c3|pg|| nt|leao: or not :)|pg|| pc|d4|nt|jcomyn: home now i think|pg|| nt|roswolf: i bet the score stands though - if the claim was accepted even though in error - thats it unless it was impossible to win the number of tricks claimed|pg|| nt|roswolf: which it clearly wasnt|pg|| nt|athene: i'm not so sure - declarer is meant to give a line of play|pg|| nt|granguru: :$|pg|| nt|3for3: Mind you, I am not against science. It just lessens the ability for the spectators to watch and enjoy|pg|| nt|hedyg: you mean they dont hate us???|pg|| pc|cT|nt|panja: yes....but at this juncture...I guess EW are content with playing middle of the road game|pg|| pc|dJ|nt|jcomyn: tx all|pg|| pc|h4|pg|| nt|leao: @c and @h back|pg|| nt|leao: and -2|pg|| nt|roswolf: they are making heavy weather of this defence|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h9|pc|hA|pc|h6|pg|| pc|d9|nt|MolvaM: 5@d went down|pg|| nt|glen: on some layouts where opener has both minor aces and the @Hs split 4-2 or 3-3, 3NT will have play on this board|pg|| nt|MolvaM: so 16 imps to kamras|pg|| nt|roswolf: but to be fair this is a very RARE mistake by these guys and they have plenty of imps in the bank from similar errors from past opps|pg|| nt|granguru: REDOULBLE on 1@Hx meant 3-suiter short in @D. So Sementa forgot or misunderstood..|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s3|nt|jfaria: I was thinking about 12 tricks, now they r there to take , no squeeze needed, just dd|pg|| pc|c8|pg|| nt|roswolf: depends whether the defenders accepted the claim -ie by putting the hands away|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hJ|pc|hT|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s7|pc|s8|pc|s9|pg|| pc|c9|pc|sQ|pc|sJ|pc|cJ|pg|| pg|| qx|o9|st||md|3SKT43HKJT76DAC865,S8HA3DQJ7543CA942,SAQJ6H9854D982CKT,S9752HQ2DKT6CQJ73|sv|e|mb|p|mb|p|nt|khaled_m: This should be a coffe board|pg|| mb|1H|mb|p|nt|khaled_m: BRB in about 8 minutes|pg|| mb|3H|mb|p|nt|khaled_m: unless they stop in 3|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|khaled_m: As I said|pg|| nt|khaled_m: :(|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sQ|pc|s2|pc|s3|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h2|pc|h7|nt|jbgood: 2 @d on 6 has been entered as making in the running scores - that is why there are some imps difference |pg|| pc|hA|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d2|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg|| pc|s4|pc|h3|pc|s6|pc|s5|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d8|pc|d6|pc|h6|pg|| pc|hK|pc|d3|pc|h4|pc|hQ|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c9|st||md|3SKT43HKJT76DAC865,S8HA3DQJ7543CA942,SAQJ6H9854D982CKT,S9752HQ2DKT6CQJ73|sv|e|nt|woozle: nobody was going to mess up that defense|pg|| nt|woozle: I'm not seeing the string of double-digit swings that Harding need to get back into the match|pg|| nt|ntmon: good effort by Monaco on 8|pg|| nt|panja: as for HCP count....try the 4.5-3 for K, 1.5 for Q, 0.75 0.25 for 10....count|pg|| nt|bobholl: what happens ?:)|pg|| nt|bobholl: all is well that ends well but i was getting nervous :)|pg|| nt|roswolf: bd 10 now please|pg|| mb|p|nt|jcomyn: yes|pg|| nt|jcomyn: 3nt|pg|| nt|hedyg: we have 1@HX at -2 and -3 and 2@c X is -3|pg|| mb|p|nt|glen: thus it was a close call to pass 2@H, but that got +110|pg|| nt|hedyg: John surely 1@D X already meant that?|pg|| nt|panja: E hand was 20 points on this scale|pg|| nt|roswolf: 8 not played!?|pg|| mb|1S|nt|jcomyn: solid 2nt for m,e|pg|| nt|hedyg: 1@c= 16+|pg|| nt|dburn: mind you, Lev and Pepsi reached the right contract with only one artificial bid, but the number of ways to skin a cat remains greater than one|pg|| nt|3for3: dbl=points, 5-8 or so. not 'negative'|pg|| mb|p|nt|ntmon: some will preemt with N hand|pg|| nt|athene: interesting - no Ghestem for this NS pair|pg|| nt|athene: but most italian pairs do play some sort of ghestem|pg|| nt|hedyg: with the E hand you bid X and pray pd doesnt bid 3@s|pg|| nt|granguru: well most of the time..could have been a GOSH or a 2-suited hand also|pg|| nt|rmb1: 3@S splinter|pg|| nt|panja: rather light double by West, helps them find a very good sac|pg|| nt|leao: they didnt like board 8, i guess|pg|| mb|2D|nt|woozle: Now a notrump partscore, probably with an overtrick or two|pg|| nt|roswolf: now 4@H more normal although may double|pg|| mb|p|nt|mcarroll: Probably best described as a Joey Silver hand|pg|| nt|MolvaM: another "void hand"|pg|| nt|MolvaM: 2@s was probably nonforcing|pg|| nt|hedyg: 2@s obviously nf|pg|| mb|2H|nt|hedyg: sry Murat|pg|| mb|p|nt|MolvaM: :)|pg|| nt|hedyg: Kamras really doesnt want to play in @H|pg|| nt|andyv: more tempted to open N hand 1@c|pg|| mb|2S|nt|blum1956: the @h position is of that special sort so nothing may disturb this contract|pg|| nt|athene: 4@S possible with such a good suit|pg|| nt|MolvaM: action again|pg|| nt|3for3: Rodwell's 4@S a coincidence.|pg|| mb|p|nt|roswolf: and chosen|pg|| nt|hedyg: they do play Ghestem on their CC|pg|| nt|athene: sometimes partner has good diamonds and weak hearts and you can make 4@S but not 4@H|pg|| nt|hedyg: just maybe not with @cs|pg|| nt|athene: throwing hearts on diamonds|pg|| nt|andyv: the spot cards are awful|pg|| nt|rmb1: Another double-digit swing to Mahaffey on 20, no club lead against 4@H +1 on a less revealing auction|pg|| mb|p|nt|jcomyn: what now - dicey|pg|| nt|roswolf: hmm this wont go for 1400 but in context a similar result|pg|| nt|granguru: well -16 is not the worst we have seen|pg|| nt|hedyg: any reason his pd could not have 7 good @hs and void in @s?|pg|| nt|jcomyn: 4 baldy aces not your best holding|pg|| nt|jcomyn: and note no other card higher than 7|pg|| mb|p|nt|roswolf: no hedy|pg|| nt|hedyg: he does have the good 7 card suit part|pg|| nt|MolvaM: 4h was a bit exaggerated for my taste|pg|| nt|MolvaM: 3@h would be ok|pg|| nt|roswolf: this seems to be -3|pg|| nt|roswolf: safe auctions|pg|| nt|leao: are NS playing canapé?|pg|| nt|roswolf: is this the right board?|pg|| nt|bobholl: yes they do |pg|| nt|bobholl: play canape|pg|| nt|leao: ok, ty|pg|| pc|d5|nt|roswolf: i am tols canape is dutch flavor of the month|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dK|nt|jfaria: lack of entries in E will give a chance to declarer?|pg|| nt|andyv: good result achieved in the open room|pg|| pc|dA|pg|| pc|c6|nt|roswolf: 2@D = 4card drury i am told|pg|| pc|c2|nt|ntmon: @S lead in OR, no problem then|pg|| nt|panja: very interesting board 20|pg|| pc|cK|nt|hedyg: this should be -1|pg|| nt|hedyg: cannot get to dummy and cannot ruff his @C losers|pg|| nt|jcomyn: indeed thiks is a very nsty hand|pg|| pc|c3|pg|| nt|hedyg: except if he gets some help..|pg|| nt|bobholl: no they are the only top pair playing canape|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h2|nt|roswolf: this will drift down|pg|| nt|hedyg: OR in 4@H|pg|| nt|roswolf: 800 is not a scratch|pg|| nt|panja: meckwell didn't at all try to explore a slam....as a result...there was a choice or leads..and East chose the wrong one|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|andyv: I would never let go a @d looking at that dummy...W is very brave|pg|| nt|jfaria: needed a @c shift |pg|| pc|hA|pg|| nt|panja: choice of leads even|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|leao: nice guess|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d6|nt|jcomyn: what with a good 6-carder|pg|| nt|MolvaM: this could recover some of the imps lost in the disaster|pg|| pc|s3|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s8|pc|s6|nt|roswolf: dummy is truly LE MORT|pg|| nt|hedyg: now +1|pg|| nt|hedyg: or 2?|pg|| nt|hedyg: A@c, @C ruff and 3 discards and claim|pg|| pc|s2|pg|| pc|s4|nt|jcomyn: and suddenly things change drastically|pg|| nt|hedyg: Gino must have thought his @ss were good enough to play even opposite shortness|pg|| pc|d7|pc|sJ|nt|jfaria: easy for us to see|pg|| pc|s5|pg|| nt|granguru: yesterday we saw Fantoni-Nunes giving away a vul game when they had a slam of their own -17|pg|| pc|h9|nt|granguru: a consolation for normal mortals we are|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|hedyg: but that is greedy LOL|pg|| pc|hK|nt|hedyg: now all @ss|pg|| pc|h3|pg|| nt|hedyg: lost 1 trick, no big deal|pg|| pc|sT|nt|leao: 10 tricks now|pg|| nt|roswolf: on the running scores webpage the score is shown as 27-11 to the dutch|pg|| nt|leao: maybe something happened on board 8|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o10|st||md|4SA953HJT4DAT75C98,ST874H982DK2CQJT3,SKQJ2HKQ3D986C652,S6HA765DQJ43CAK74|sv|b|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hJ|pc|h2|nt|jbgood: 6 corrected now - 2@d made|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|dK|pc|d6|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|c8|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c5|pc|cK|pc|c9|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d8|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h8|pc|h3|pc|h5|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h9|pc|hK|pc|h6|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s6|pc|s3|pc|s4|pg|| pc|c6|nt|khaled_m: oh he made 2@D on board 6!|pg|| pc|c7|pc|d7|pc|cT|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|d9|pc|cA|pc|s5|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dT|pc|s7|pc|s2|pg|| pc|d4|pc|s9|pc|s8|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|h7|pc|sA|pc|sT|pc|sQ|pg|| pg|| qx|c10|st||md|4SA953HJT4DAT75C98,ST874H982DK2CQJT3,SKQJ2HKQ3D986C652,S6HA765DQJ43CAK74|sv|b|nt|ntmon: surprises me how often 3NT is made through the field|pg|| nt|jcomyn: isnt that amazing|pg|| nt|hedyg: last board of this match now|pg|| nt|roswolf: tried to drop a singleton trump king|pg|| nt|hedyg: thanks to our outstanding operator in Poznan, Tadeusz ! to my excellent fellow commentators Geoffrey and Bill for donating their time and expertise to guide us through these ...|pg|| nt|hedyg: boards.our appreciation to the EBL and the PBF for bringing this event to BBO, especially Slawek Latala who was intrumental in organizing these broadcasts on behalf of BBO|pg|| nt|hedyg: special thanks to our specs for joining and for your kind and helpful comments,we hope you enjoyed the show|pg|| nt|glen: there must be a leaderboard for this italian unusual results|pg|| nt|roswolf: We are now on the last board of the set. Thanks to our operator, Joanna -Great Job! Our appreciation to all the organisers for ensuring that this fine event is brought to BBO ...|pg|| nt|roswolf: vugraph. Thanks too to my very learned fellow commentators Hedy, Murat and Glen for their company and perceptive comments and to our specs whose contributions keep us on our toes.|pg|| nt|glen: *these|pg|| nt|hedyg: and thank you Geoffrey :)|pg|| nt|roswolf: an entertaining match|pg|| nt|roswolf: We are now on the last board of the set. Thanks to our operator, Tadeusz -Great Job! Our appreciation to all the organisers for ensuring that this fine event is brought to BBO ...|pg|| nt|roswolf: vugraph. Thanks too to my very learned fellow commentator Hedy for her company and perceptive comments and to our specs whose contributions keep us on our toes.|pg|| nt|hedyg: thank you too Geoffrey :)|pg|| nt|ritong: he did not pull the third trump, seems|pg|| nt|hedyg: what did he do with the 2@ds in his hand?|pg|| nt|jcomyn: anyone know what the jackpot coup is|pg|| nt|roswolf: ty|pg|| nt|bobholl: they made 2@S+2 on this one|pg|| mb|1D|an| |nt|ritong: ruffed both|pg|| mb|p|nt|hedyg: we will be back at 14 30 CET, in 1 hour and 38 minutes|pg|| nt|roswolf: sorry thx to John as well|pg|| nt|granguru: fortunatelly IMPs table doesnt punish you very hard after you already gave away a lot of IMPs in one hand|pg|| nt|jcomyn: and a very difficult thing to achieve|pg|| mb|1S|nt|jcomyn: 20 impps in last 2 boards|pg|| nt|roswolf: scheduled restart in 1hr 35 mins approx|pg|| nt|roswolf: scheduled restart in 40 mins time approx|pg|| nt|panja: 24 HCP with NS...not game is on...|pg|| mb|p|nt|glen: some styles like a 3rd seat 1@H here|pg|| nt|ritong: i suspect our operator anticipated a little:)|pg|| nt|hedyg: ah ok, didnt pull 3rd|pg|| nt|jfaria: cant see anyone opening this auction|pg|| mb|2C|an| |nt|ntmon: new leader - i didn't tell that during last few boards|pg|| nt|hedyg: not when KJ are behind :p|pg|| mb|p|nt|mcarroll: yet another Major partscore hand|pg|| mb|2D|mb|p|nt|hedyg: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswleaderb.html|pg|| nt|athene: west might try an aggressive 3@S now, thinking his @DKJx mesh nicely with his partner's diamond suit|pg|| nt|roswolf: 3nt by east|pg|| nt|hedyg: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/oswrunda6.html|pg|| nt|roswolf: and here it rests!?|pg|| nt|leao: it shud...|pg|| mb|p|nt|athene: in fact, of course, they mesh nicely with *north's* diamond suit|pg|| nt|athene: ok, 2@C then 2@S i guess|pg|| nt|roswolf: the pitiful crutch of 4SF |pg|| nt|athene: show an invitational hand but stop at the 2 level|pg|| nt|MolvaM: and not 5 minutes after conceding 1400|pg|| nt|hedyg: we will be back in 37 minutes|pg|| nt|roswolf: i think not|pg|| mb|p|nt|roswolf: n/s will press on to game|pg|| nt|roswolf: an easy contract|pg|| nt|leao: and did|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|hedyg: last board of this match now and of the Swiss teams|pg|| nt|hedyg: thanks to our outstanding operator in Poznan, Tadeusz ! to my excellent fellow commentators Geoffrey, Danny and David for donating their time and expertise to guide us through ...|pg|| nt|hedyg: these boards.our appreciation to the EBL and the PBF for bringing this event to BBO, especially Slawek Latala who was intrumental in organizing these broadcasts on behalf of BBO|pg|| nt|panja: 2@S bid....I don't really like it..|pg|| nt|rmb1: 3@C stopper ask?|pg|| nt|panja: poor suit..poor shape....no need to bid in a live auction|pg|| nt|bobholl: @C are often missed if best fit :)|pg|| nt|roswolf: this brings bridge into disrepute|pg|| nt|roswolf: a constructive auction to a 4-2 fit - save me please|pg|| nt|leao: the @c community shud file a complaint|pg|| pc|h2|nt|woozle: 4S is cold|pg|| nt|blum1956: 4@s could be made|pg|| nt|woozle: with CA onside, diamond position, spade position and no diamond ruff coming|pg|| nt|ntmon: 2@C may not be wise - who has the @S suit? probably partner, and is weak ...|pg|| nt|jcomyn: big finish for someone|pg|| nt|jcomyn: and it isnt lavazza|pg|| nt|ntmon: .. but this is not the case|pg|| nt|3for3: meck bought a nice hand from rodwell, who could have had nada. K@D and stiff heart very useful|pg|| nt|roswolf: well imo east should rebid 1nt - to avoid this torture|pg|| pc|h3|nt|mcarroll: Yes but has to get @Ds right|pg|| nt|hedyg: can not be more than invite by passed hand|pg|| nt|hedyg: special thanks to our specs for joining and for your kind and helpful comments,we hope you enjoyed the show|pg|| nt|dburn: indeed - this match (though entertaining) doesn't matter - but there are some fierce qualification battles going on in both A and B flights|pg|| nt|hedyg: we will be back tomorrow morning with the Knockouts|pg|| pc|h6|pg|| nt|jcomyn: frying pan into the toaster|pg|| nt|athene: nope, he tries 3 anyway|pg|| nt|hedyg: A@C and @c switch might help|pg|| nt|hedyg: but that wont happen|pg|| pc|hT|nt|roswolf: east will accept!?|pg|| pc|h8|nt|woozle: McGann tries 4H, down one or two on a spade guess with the club hook failing|pg|| nt|hedyg: but 2@s should be enough|pg|| nt|hedyg: everything is friendly|pg|| nt|granguru: Italoswiss is a kib with very good memory|pg|| nt|hedyg: ty all, bye for now!|pg|| nt|hedyg: help the defense ofc|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|woozle: down one...Fiona surely won't try the SK now|pg|| nt|blum1956: -50 against -140 or -170 is a useful 3 imps|pg|| pc|hA|pg|| nt|ntmon: X should secure @C lead against 3NT|pg|| nt|hedyg: 1 card out of 3 is on side|pg|| nt|rmb1: This club stop is not going to stand close inspection|pg|| nt|panja: luckily for NS..@HA is with E, and @DK, with West...|pg|| nt|panja: so there are 8 tricks..|pg|| nt|bobholl: jansma - paulissen bid 1@D 1@S 1NT much better but surely not best|pg|| nt|roswolf: 6 + more imps dribble away|pg|| pc|h5|nt|jcomyn: craziest contract of the week|pg|| nt|roswolf: north needs to avoid being endplayed here|pg|| nt|hedyg: i dont think he can get endplayed|pg|| nt|athene: endplay is unlikely because after ruffing a club and drawing trumps, west has no trumps left so a fourth club is fine|pg|| nt|3for3: i believe the higher you are, you get bonus in KO's, re selection of opponents. Hedy posted the rule earlier|pg|| nt|hedyg: 10:00 AM CET|pg|| nt|hedyg: that is for teams 1-8, the rest are seeding as per EBL or WBF seeding points|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h9|pc|hK|pg|| nt|roswolf: well strong club systems have their downsides too|pg|| nt|leao: why not pass 2@c? play in the 4-4 fit instead of in the (putative) 5-2|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|hedyg: even A@H and @H is fine|pg|| pc|s6|nt|woozle: I fear at this point that 3 isn't enough|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s4|pg|| nt|ntmon: prediction? abstain..|pg|| nt|roswolf: indeed as it happens but still care needs to be taken|pg|| pc|s2|nt|jcomyn: hope no children are watching|pg|| nt|granguru: some time ago I said whenever one player of each team tries to play the same suit, one of them is out of his mind. I was referring myself to the play of the cards thou|pg|| pc|d3|nt|leao: unless 2@c is forcing for them|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s7|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c8|pc|cQ|nt|panja: @CT on trick two was a smart play.. allowing a late entry to W hand with 4th Club..if needed|pg|| pc|c2|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c5|pc|c4|nt|hedyg: ty all, bye for now :)|pg|| pc|c9|pg|| nt|woozle: South could try for down two by ducking the first club|pg|| nt|athene: maybe @S6-@S4 is a subtle signal asking for a diamond|pg|| nt|athene: but bocchi can see it doesn't really matter i think|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sJ|nt|panja: if W discards a @S..E will have to go up with @HA next trick..I guess|pg|| nt|roswolf: e/w should take a refresher course on their system or else change it!:)|pg|| pc|d4|nt|roswolf: bye for now|pg|| pc|s9|pg|| nt|blum1956: Yes they need average 10.6 a bord to even the match|pg|| nt|athene: diamonds can't be going away|pg|| pc|h7|nt|roswolf: bye for now|pg|| nt|granguru: bye all|pg|| pc|sA|nt|leao: he´s doing well, under the circumstances|pg|| pc|dK|pc|c6|pg|| nt|roswolf: yes but sill minus|pg|| nt|bobholl: but 1 down is not to prevent|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|o11|st||md|1ST753HT76DK764C53,SA42HQ953DA952CJ7,SQJ986HK2DQ83CT86,SKHAJ84DJTCAKQ942|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1S|nt|jbgood: nobody would put in a claim for the defense of the year on the previous one...|pg|| mb|d|mb|2S|mb|2N!|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|jbgood: good slam missed|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pg|| nt|khaled_m: Can the Czeck pull some imps back on this board|pg|| mc|13|pg|| qx|c11|st||md|1ST753HT76DK764C53,SA42HQ953DA952CJ7,SQJ986HK2DQ83CT86,SKHAJ84DJTCAKQ942|sv|o|nt|woozle: Routine 4S for EW, hardly the stuff of which swings are made|pg|| nt|jcomyn: yes 1s by e|pg|| nt|andyv: is that where the last 4 cards in dummy are the same denomination?|pg|| nt|andyv: all Qs or Js, etc?|pg|| nt|jcomyn: no close|pg|| nt|roswolf: defence needed to play trumps at some point|pg|| mb|p|mb|1N|nt|jcomyn: still no|pg|| nt|roswolf: well it is not clear why you shouldnt bid this slam|pg|| mb|p|nt|rmb1: On 21, NS ran from 3NTX ... to 4NT-2 :)|pg|| mb|2N|an|control asking|mb|p|nt|roswolf: should be duck soup even with a 11-13 nt|pg|| mb|3H|an| |nt|jcomyn: we should offer a prize for the right answer|pg|| nt|bobholl: because you also miss the @H it is not too good :)|pg|| nt|bobholl: @H 10 :)|pg|| mb|p|nt|rmb1: In OR, EW did not bid 6@H on 22 but managed one more trick 4@H+3|pg|| nt|roswolf: west passed in the other room|pg|| nt|bobholl: not playing 11-13 nt|pg|| nt|roswolf: i think this is playable - no system can recognise useful 10's|pg|| nt|bobholl: in west 6@H is luckier no @D lead and it is a vedry good slam|pg|| nt|bobholl: very|pg|| nt|leao: cards are laying VERY well for declarer|pg|| mb|6C|mb|p|nt|rmb1: 3@S probably shows 5|pg|| mb|p|nt|jcomyn: here's a hint. Think in terms of a slot machine|pg|| mb|p|nt|bobholl: now that';s a good slam :)|pg|| nt|roswolf: I APPROVE OF THIS BIDDING -BID WHAT YOU THINK YOU CAN MAKE:)|pg|| pc|d6|nt|leao: yes, as 6NT wud be, but agree on the bidding tip|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d3|nt|mcarroll: given the state of the match will they try for the @C slam?|pg|| pc|dJ|pg|| nt|andyv: 9 tricks easy now|pg|| pc|s2|nt|mcarroll: which would certainly have faILED|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sK|pc|s3|pg|| pc|c2|nt|panja: y.|pg|| nt|panja: better play might have been to win @CK and cash a trump...|pg|| pc|c3|nt|panja: now @ST9 are finessable..but entries are short..|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c6|pg|| pc|sA|nt|panja: so S will make only 10 tricks|pg|| pc|s8|nt|roswolf: useful trump jack|pg|| pc|dT|pc|s5|pg|| nt|leao: very|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c8|pc|cA|pc|c5|pg|| nt|mcarroll: another 2 imps to Mahaffey|pg|| pc|cK|pc|s7|nt|roswolf: draw some trumps and lead a small heart for the top prize|pg|| pc|s4|pc|cT|pg|| nt|leao: oui|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|rmb1: Time running out for Netherlands Juniors still 36 adrift|pg|| nt|bobholl: 6@C is much better as it needs only @H 32|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d2|nt|roswolf: yup|pg|| pc|s9|pg|| nt|leao: that´s rite|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h6|pc|h3|pc|hK|pg|| pc|d8|pc|c4|pc|d7|pc|d5|pg|| nt|leao: claim time|pg|| pc|c9|nt|roswolf: 9 imps to the trailing team|pg|| pc|sT|pc|h9|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h7|pc|hQ|pc|h2|pg|| pc|h5|pc|dQ|nt|bobholl: now it is|pg|| mc|12|nt|roswolf: well done|pg|| pg|| qx|o12|st||md|2ST98HJ75D2CJ97643,SAK3HAT2DQJT97CAT,SQ54HK9863D8543C5,SJ762HQ4DAK6CKQ82|sv|n|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|4D|mb|p|nt|khaled_m: In 6NT declarer can take 3 chances for his 12th trick.|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|nt|khaled_m: 6@d is safest|pg|| mb|5D|mb|p|mb|5H|mb|p|mb|6C|nt|khaled_m: As defender pointed out, a club lead in 6@D causes problem. I declarer goes for a heart ruff he is doomed|pg|| mb|p|nt|khaled_m: sorry did not see singleton club|pg|| mb|6S|mb|p|nt|jbgood: he can still play a heart up to the Q as cards lie... |pg|| nt|jeanhari: easy make 6 @S :)|pg|| nt|jeanhari: noheart lead that is|pg|| nt|jbgood: but in many cased 6@s would go down and 6NT make|pg|| nt|jeanhari: think 6NT will follow now|pg|| nt|jeanhari: Jansma imagening 7@S opp VBTx I suppose|pg|| nt|jbgood: Netherlands picking up small swings ... 27 up now|pg|| mb|7D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|jbgood: not sure that this will be a pick-up (rather a crashed sports model)|pg|| nt|jeanhari: two boards later the score will be even|pg|| nt|khaled_m: Now there could big boards back to back fro czeks|pg|| pc|d4|nt|khaled_m: Board 11 6@C being played |pg|| nt|jeanhari: ok, ,finesse clubs, discard a spade, ruff a spade... need J onside, clubs 4-3, spades 3-3 and trumps 3-2 :)|pg|| nt|jeanhari: oeps not enough entries to do so|pg|| nt|jeanhari: so needs Q spdeas doubleton and some squueze|pg|| nt|khaled_m: yes short of entries for that now only hope is to finese clubs discard 2 hearts and hope fopr @SQ to drop|pg|| nt|jbgood: right|pg|| nt|jeanhari: but choosing between a squueze and a clubfinesse could take some calculating|pg|| nt|jeanhari: and time|pg|| nt|jeanhari: dutch lucky both slams not vulnerable, will still be in the lead|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d7|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|cT|pc|c5|pg|| nt|khaled_m: yah if at all you are hoping for the drop of @SQ squeeze in 3 suits is another option.|pg|| pc|cA|pc|d3|pc|c8|pc|c4|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d6|nt|khaled_m: The Czecks did have their chances but did not avail.|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c12|st||md|2ST98HJ75D2CJ97643,SAK3HAT2DQJT97CAT,SQ54HK9863D8543C5,SJ762HQ4DAK6CKQ82|sv|n|nt|jcomyn: wouldnt want to come in with ther s hand|pg|| mb|1C|an| |nt|jfaria: 2 keycards missing = 4@s|pg|| nt|roswolf: another slam|pg|| mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|jfaria: or at least something bellow 6|pg|| mb|1N|an| |nt|panja: 24 HCP with NS again...will they bid a game?|pg|| nt|leao: strong @c again|pg|| mb|p|mb|2C|an| |nt|roswolf: might well be bid|pg|| nt|leao: no @d bid yet|pg|| mb|p|nt|rmb1: will they bid ... ?|pg|| nt|panja: well..interesting auction|pg|| nt|panja: only goes to support the modified point count I showed earlier..|pg|| mb|2D|an| |nt|woozle: we seem to have lost a board. NS fetch up in a dull 1NT, making one or two|pg|| nt|mcarroll: oops|pg|| nt|mcarroll: yes 25 seems to have been skipped|pg|| nt|jcomyn: drop it like a hot spud with no reasl aces|pg|| nt|jfaria: E showing slam intentionswith c@shortness |pg|| mb|p|nt|jfaria: @c|pg|| nt|roswolf: :)|pg|| mb|2N|nt|jcomyn: shortness even|pg|| mb|p|nt|rmb1: North/South have been very "sound" for a pair of juniors :)|pg|| mb|3D|mb|p|nt|jfaria: wonder what 4 nt means|pg|| nt|panja: agree...far less immature..and more cautious that I would have imagines they would be|pg|| nt|panja: than...|pg|| nt|leao: East has a wonderful hand when pard opens 1@c|pg|| nt|leao: and shows long @ds|pg|| nt|roswolf: i am tols the other room is in 7@D|pg|| nt|leao: 7 is a bit farfetched, no? |pg|| nt|roswolf: BUT CAN MAKE ON AN INSPIRED @C view + squeeze|pg|| mb|4D|an| |nt|jcomyn: old blackwood i imagine|pg|| nt|andyv: when watching an auction like this I feel the participents are going all the way to the edge of the cliff|pg|| nt|jfaria: maybe, E showed !Q s :)|pg|| nt|jfaria: Q@s|pg|| mb|p|mb|4H|nt|jfaria: was misguided by 5@s answer, but Cohler rightly "showed" the @sQ|pg|| nt|andyv: I think 4@c was kc, 4@s showed 2 without and 4N asked for K ings|pg|| mb|p|mb|4N|an| |mb|p|nt|bobholl: 7NT yes but 7@D misses entries|pg|| mb|5C|nt|leao: arent there entry problems for 7?|pg|| mb|p|nt|andyv: sorry, 4N showed 2 with and 5@s stopped|pg|| mb|5H|mb|p|nt|roswolf: i expect this to end in 6@D|pg|| mb|5S|mb|p|nt|jcomyn: give em their 2 aces and claim|pg|| nt|andyv: it may well be that EW weren't on same page|pg|| nt|leao: 5@h asks for trump queen, no?|pg|| nt|bobholl: but they migth bid 7@D too (hope so as a dutchman)|pg|| nt|leao: lol|pg|| nt|leao: they are certainly trying|pg|| nt|leao: mite have bid 6 a long time ago|pg|| nt|leao: 7 went -2|pg|| nt|roswolf: he cant count a sure 13 tricks therefore the small slam is sensible|pg|| mb|7N|mb|p|mb|p|nt|leao: this has a chance|pg|| nt|roswolf: he might also be considering the strain ie NT OR@D|pg|| nt|roswolf: NO THE TOP OF THE HOUSE|pg|| nt|roswolf: A DBL IS LIKELY|pg|| nt|leao: on the other table the @c view was taken, but declarer run into a @c ruff |pg|| nt|roswolf: as you would|pg|| mb|p|nt|panja: and they will get a non-vul game equivalent score for the passes here|pg|| nt|roswolf: this will take a long time to play|pg|| nt|bobholl: @D lead best |pg|| pc|d5|nt|leao: this requires the @c play and a @s unblock b4 running the @c|pg|| nt|roswolf: if the club view is found there are 12 top tricks and north will be squeezed in the majors|pg|| nt|roswolf: yes difficult but finable i think|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d2|nt|rmb1: Now set up @S|pg|| pc|dQ|pg|| nt|roswolf: findable|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|sT|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|cT|pc|c5|pg|| nt|leao: bravo. step 1 complete|pg|| pc|cA|pc|h3|pc|c8|pc|c3|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d4|nt|roswolf: tyhe ace of hearts is the vital entry|pg|| pc|dA|pc|c6|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c7|pc|hT|pc|d8|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c9|pc|h2|pc|h6|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s8|pc|sA|pc|s4|pg|| pc|dJ|nt|roswolf: ah no entry ah well only a 2 imp gain|pg|| nt|bobholl: there is no entry back to e |pg|| pc|h8|pc|s6|pc|s9|pg|| pc|dT|pc|h9|pc|h4|pc|h5|pg|| pc|hA|pc|hK|pc|hQ|pc|h7|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s5|pc|s7|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sQ|pc|sJ|pc|hJ|pg|| pg|| qx|o13|st||md|3SAH6532DKQJ75CQJ7,ST43HJT9DA9842C95,SQJ9762HKQ8D6CAT4,SK85HA74DT3CK8632|sv|b|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c3|nt|jeanhari: too high, even on a club lead|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c5|pc|c4|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d3|pg|| nt|khaled_m: There seems no way of making this one |pg|| pc|c9|pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c7|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|s3|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d2|pc|cT|pc|dT|pg|| nt|khaled_m: &NT in the other room|pg|| nt|khaled_m: 7NT|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d4|pc|h8|pc|s8|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cJ|pc|d8|pc|s7|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|d5|pc|s4|pg|| pc|c6|pc|d7|pc|d9|pc|s6|pg|| mc|9|nt|jeanhari: just to much... 7NT... just, would make if north hed 4 spades along with his heart king|pg|| pg|| qx|c13|st||md|3SAH6532DKQJ75CQJ7,ST43HJT9DA9842C95,SQJ9762HKQ8D6CAT4,SK85HA74DT3CK8632|sv|b|nt|jcomyn: give em their 3 aces asnd claim next hand|pg|| nt|andyv: so 4@c was either a splinter, in which case 4N doesn't make sense or 4@c was RKC in which case 4N doesn't make any sense|pg|| nt|panja: I have to leave now, thx Robin, all|pg|| nt|rmb1: 4@S looks worth trying|pg|| nt|panja: bye|pg|| nt|leao: they still won imps on that one|pg|| nt|roswolf: difficult to analyse withot gib|pg|| nt|leao: :)|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|nt|jfaria: test|pg|| mb|2C|nt|andyv: but at the end, no harm done|pg|| mb|p|nt|rmb1: 2NT good raise|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|mb|4S|nt|jcomyn: indeed but u are right. a kind of lemming sequence|pg|| mb|p|nt|rmb1: 23 saw NS play 5@H+1 in OR for another 10IMP to Mahaffey|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|roswolf: this is a little unlucky but the vul game bonus tempts everyone|pg|| nt|bobholl: east has a difficult lead|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cQ|nt|rmb1: EW believed 4@S making :)|pg|| pc|c5|nt|jfaria: N a bit worried about the small @c doubleton|pg|| pc|c4|pg|| nt|jfaria: but nothing he could bid besides 3nt|pg|| pc|dK|nt|woozle: McGann takes a wild swing at game, which should make on the favourable heart lie, even if she runs into a club ruff|pg|| pc|dA|nt|jcomyn: well s has an 18-19 nt so|pg|| pc|d6|nt|woozle: did she really duck the diamond?|pg|| pc|d3|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hQ|nt|roswolf: on bd 12 the field bid to 6nt|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pg|| nt|roswolf: are we still live|pg|| pc|c6|nt|bobholl: guess n will also go 1 down|pg|| pc|c7|nt|jcomyn: that reminds me of a hand in istanbul when my p put me into 4s and i ran into a 5-0 break. He said he was worried about clubs. I had the AKQJ and won none of em|pg|| pc|c9|nt|andyv: so he was right to be worried:)|pg|| pc|cT|pg|| pc|s6|nt|woozle: she must be getting tired|pg|| nt|blum1956: very strange indeed|pg|| nt|jcomyn: was is his foot they all got ruffed|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sA|nt|woozle: pepsi may reject the trump promotion in diamonds because Fiona's heart pip was the 8|pg|| nt|woozle: Which probably looks like KJ98|pg|| pc|s3|pg|| nt|bobholl: whow not any more may be|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d2|nt|roswolf: no still off i think|pg|| pc|h8|pc|dT|pg|| nt|bobholl: only if they find the @C ruff (not that difficult)|pg|| nt|roswolf: west gets a club ruff|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d4|nt|jfaria: tricks|pg|| nt|jfaria: 9|pg|| pc|cA|pc|s8|pg|| nt|roswolf: a push|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h5|pc|h9|pc|hK|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o14|st||md|4S953H742DKJT4C987,SQJ6H8DA87CAKJT62,SKT8742HAQJT6D93C,SAHK953DQ652CQ543|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|2C|nt|jeanhari: nice boards, 5@C making here|pg|| mb|3C!|nt|jbgood: 3@c by N? yes|pg|| mb|d|mb|r|mb|p|nt|jbgood: S asking if prd has a preferense|pg|| mb|4S|mb|5C|mb|p|mb|p|nt|jbgood: he had a high pref in spades:)|pg|| mb|5H|nt|jbgood: and keeps on bidding - good for EW|pg|| mb|d|mb|5S|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c3|pc|c7|pc|cK|pc|s2|pg|| nt|jbgood: 300 plus much better than a minus - which happens to W in 5@c unless def very friendly|pg|| nt|khaled_m: In 5@C on a diamond lead overtaken by 10 declarer has a guess. If he does not duck goes down|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|dK|nt|jbgood: 500 now|pg|| pc|dA|pg|| nt|khaled_m: 5@C he was favorite to make. Diamond goes on @HK|pg|| pc|cA|pc|s4|pc|c4|pc|c8|pg|| nt|jbgood: sry - so true|pg|| nt|jeanhari: so all to play for the next 14 boards, starting in about half a hour|pg|| nt|khaled_m: but @D lead he would surely go down thinking it as a singleton.|pg|| nt|khaled_m: Also South has to play 10|pg|| nt|khaled_m: Now he might play @SK from hand to give away 3 tricks|pg|| nt|jbgood: still better to defend it looks like...|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sA|nt|khaled_m: yes|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s6|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c9|pc|c2|pc|s8|pg|| nt|jeanhari: still not easy for declarer|pg|| nt|khaled_m: 500 whatever he does|pg|| nt|khaled_m: no problem there|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dQ|pc|d4|pc|d7|pg|| nt|khaled_m: becaus Jansma has no other entry|pg|| nt|khaled_m: gets 2 more|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|h8|pc|hT|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|d8|pg|| mc|8|nt|vugraphpl5: thanks all!|pg|| pg|| qx|c14|st||md|4S953H742DKJT4C987,SQJ6H8DA87CAKJT62,SKT8742HAQJT6D93C,SAHK953DQ652CQ543|sv|o|nt|andyv: last board of this set|pg|| nt|jcomyn: holding KJ of s K10 of h and K of D what did he think i had to open 1nt|pg|| nt|roswolf: We are now on the last board of the set. Thanks to our operator, Tadeusz -Great Job! Our appreciation to all the organisers for ensuring that this fine event is brought to BBO ...|pg|| nt|roswolf: vugraph. Thanks too to my very learned fellow commentators Bob and Leao for their company and perceptive comments and to our specs whose contributions keep us on our toes.|pg|| nt|roswolf: and some blood possible here|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|andyv: North has had a couple of hands where he's been blessed with great spot cards|pg|| nt|jcomyn: gee that match ended very tamely|pg|| nt|jfaria: last board no expected swings, cmon orange jrs lets make a fight of it :) only 1o imps behind against mighty Meckwell|pg|| nt|andyv: a lot of 3N contracts|pg|| mb|1C|an| |nt|jfaria: dont go away 2d half promises |pg|| nt|jcomyn: they have done well|pg|| nt|rmb1: This is the last board, thanks to Panja for commentating, thanks to the operator, and to EBL and BBO for organising|pg|| nt|rmb1: and thanks to Dutch kibs for support|pg|| nt|roswolf: 5@SX seems excessive|pg|| mb|2C|an| |mb|2H|an| |mb|p|nt|jcomyn: ok folks thans to the kibs and to a great operator|pg|| nt|rmb1: Nice pressure 4@S opening|pg|| nt|rmb1: East send it back? (XX)|pg|| nt|roswolf: e/w have no slam|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|nt|mcarroll: so a pretty emphatic victory for Mahaffey|pg|| nt|jcomyn: have to go and play golf now - tough life|pg|| nt|roswolf: 3nt was the popular contract at the other tables|pg|| mb|p|nt|roswolf: 5@C needs a diamond duck to win|pg|| mb|p|nt|roswolf: all calm here but the dutch will gain a few|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|jfaria: 2@d GF cb i presume|pg|| nt|roswolf: scheduled re-start for the second half of theis match is in 15 mins|pg|| pc|h3|nt|blum1956: Thx all, spectators and commentators. See you!|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h8|pg|| nt|andyv: probably 2way new minor|pg|| nt|jfaria: with 2 aces missing hard to make more than 11 tricks|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|jfaria: tuff lead |pg|| pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|d8|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c7|pc|c2|nt|jfaria: Cohler thinks he must work a bit but cards lie really friendly for him|pg|| pc|s2|pg|| nt|andyv: there went his chance for 12 tricks:)|pg|| nt|roswolf: quick claim now|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c8|pc|cA|pc|s7|pg|| nt|andyv: E hand much tougher problem in BAM event|pg|| pc|cK|pc|s4|pc|c4|nt|jfaria: strange play by Cohler|pg|| pc|c9|pg|| pc|cJ|nt|rmb1: I fear another nail in the coffin 50+ IMP margin, can follow the end of the match in the other room|pg|| pc|s8|pc|c5|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|cT|pc|d3|nt|andyv: true, doesn't make any sense|pg|| pc|d2|pc|s5|pg|| pc|c6|pc|d9|pc|d5|pc|d4|pg|| nt|andyv: now just cashing out|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sT|nt|rmb1: Next round at 13:30 CET in 90 minutes|pg|| nt|rmb1: Bye thanks all|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s3|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dT|pc|dA|pc|h6|pg|| nt|andyv: will lose a couple of imps|pg|| nt|andyv: maybe not|pg|| mc|9|nt|roswolf: bye for now|pg|| nt|bobholl: claim tya cu later :)|pg|| pg||