vg|D EC 2011 Open Teams RR _,4_7,I,1,10,Mahaffey,0,Kanin,0| rs|3SN-1,3SN+1,5CN=,3NN=,3HS=,4HS-1,3NS+3,3NS+3,4DS-2,1SS=,1NN=,3NS=,4SN=,4SN=,6HN+1,6HN+1,4HE=,4HE+1,3NS+4,4NN+2| pn|MECKSTROTH,FUGLESTAD ,RODWELL , HARDING ,BREKKA,LEV,KVANGRAVEN,PSZCZOLA|pg|| qx|o1|st||md|3SJT8HKQT4D4CT5432,SQ92H9652DA75CQ96,SA7643HAJ7DJ86CK8,SK5H83DKQT932CAJ7|sv|o|mb|1S|mb|2D|mb|2S|mb|d!|nt|cenglund: Hi all|pg|| mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|hawe45: This board will hardly decide the match|pg|| mb|p|nt|toral5: hello everyone|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d4|nt|hawe45: West must overtake|pg|| pc|dA|nt|cenglund: One down, I guess|pg|| pc|d6|pg|| pc|s2|nt|toral5: nice part score battle to begin with|pg|| nt|hawe45: - for one down on a @C-shift|pg|| nt|hawe45: This was killing (the) defense|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|s8|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sT|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg|| nt|toral5: surprising result in the other room|pg|| nt|toral5: this is still going down\|pg|| nt|toral5: @D ruff promotes trump 9|pg|| nt|hawe45: Still OK for E/W|pg|| nt|toral5: and pulling trumps means still a trick short|pg|| pc|s4|pc|d2|pc|sJ|pc|s9|pg|| nt|toral5: he ll try @C to the king and ll end up 2 down|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h5|nt|hawe45: But good against 110/130|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h3|pg|| nt|toral5: so a pick up for kanins team|pg|| pc|s7|pc|d9|pc|c2|pc|d7|pg|| nt|toral5: but not gud enuf seeing the other room result:)|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h8|pc|hK|pc|h2|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h6|pc|hJ|nt|toral5: very friendly defence in the other room|pg|| pc|d3|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h9|pc|d8|pc|c7|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c9|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|c4|pc|d5|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c5|pc|c6|pc|c8|pg|| pc|dT|pc|cT|pc|cQ|pc|s6|pg|| pg|| qx|c1|st||md|3SJT8HKQT4D4CT5432,SQ92H9652DA75CQ96,SA7643HAJ7DJ86CK8,SK5H83DKQT932CAJ7|sv|o|nt|mamos: good afternoon|pg|| nt|vugraphpl9: hi|pg|| mb|1S|mb|2D|nt|grebrof: hi again John|pg|| nt|yke: hi all|pg|| mb|3S|nt|jcomyn: hi mike|pg|| mb|p|nt|grebrof: nice hand S|pg|| nt|jcomyn: hi all|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|mamos: Im hoping to see some good bridge - the day has been a bit of a mixture of ups and downs so far|pg|| nt|vugraphpl9: running scores http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/orrrunda3.html|pg|| pc|dK|nt|grebrof: 3nt? 3-6in majors and 16-19|pg|| nt|jcomyn: sure has|pg|| nt|jcomyn: hi all|pg|| nt|vugraphpl9: runnning scores http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/orrleaderb.html|pg|| nt|vugraphpl9: last round today|pg|| pc|d4|nt|mamos: hi John|pg|| nt|jcomyn: hi mike|pg|| pc|d7|nt|jcomyn: is this another how not to bid lesson|pg|| pc|d8|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h4|nt|grebrof: there have been something good too of course|pg|| nt|jcomyn: or is it 1nt transfer to d|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|d6|nt|jcomyn: and now two 4-4 major fits and they defend a minor partscore sigh|pg|| pc|d3|nt|grebrof: finesse @s|pg|| pc|s8|pc|d5|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h5|pc|hA|pc|h3|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dT|nt|jcomyn: nuttin to this|pg|| nt|grebrof: claim 10|pg|| pc|sT|pc|dA|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: hi all|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sQ|nt|mamos: its so hard to commentate when the bidding needs translation|pg|| nt|danilo1: Hi all|pg|| nt|jcomyn: well that is true - we are guessing most of the time|pg|| nt|jcomyn: hi danilo|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s5|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sK|nt|grebrof: give away the trump|pg|| pc|c2|pc|s2|pg|| nt|jcomyn: ruff and discard never obvious|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o2|st||md|4SJT43HKQJDJT7CT94,S9652HAT84DKQ93C7,SH965DA2CAKQJ8532,SAKQ87H732D8654C6|sv|n|mb|2S|mb|p|nt|toral5: nice brd coming up|pg|| mb|4S|nt|hawe45: This openeing bid will bring some fun, I´m sure|pg|| mb|5C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|toral5: i did expect 1/2 @S from east|pg|| nt|hawe45: Flat...|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s3|pc|s2|nt|toral5: luckily a make|pg|| pc|c2|pg|| nt|hawe45: Claim|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c2|st||md|4SJT43HKQJDJT7CT94,S9652HAT84DKQ93C7,SH965DA2CAKQJ8532,SAKQ87H732D8654C6|sv|n|nt|hawe45: Sorry, 300 of course|pg|| nt|jcomyn: now for a battle ending where|pg|| mb|p|nt|mamos: EW have no need to regret giving in to Diamonds they could make nothing|pg|| mb|p|mb|1D|nt|sunsamvar: hi Hans|pg|| nt|mamos: Ns will bid 3NT in any language|pg|| nt|jcomyn: agreed but they didnt look as if they would find a major fit|pg|| nt|yke: W should have played low and East should have throw the K under spade Ace, not that easy|pg|| nt|jcomyn: gee here we go again with ultra-light opening|pg|| nt|yke: but it's only for an overtrick|pg|| nt|jcomyn: how many clubs|pg|| nt|yke: nice hand :) |pg|| mb|3N|nt|jcomyn: i like that|pg|| nt|yke: I don't like 3NT, with a void|pg|| nt|jcomyn: banking on a d leade|pg|| mb|p|nt|hawe45: Rather easy boards to start with here|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|grebrof: 3@s is not an underbid|pg|| nt|jcomyn: especially vul very aggressive stuff|pg|| nt|jcomyn: NOOOOO|pg|| pc|sK|nt|danilo1: Double -dummy 3NT ... but guess would not find @DK|pg|| pc|s3|nt|sunsamvar: will they get to 6 here ?|pg|| nt|hawe45: If so - 6 @H D is free for 1100|pg|| nt|hawe45: 7 the 1400 and 1 IMP|pg|| nt|hawe45: Difficult to find out, how bad slam is|pg|| pc|s5|nt|mamos: defence to 4@h not trivial|pg|| pc|h6|pg|| nt|grebrof: playing 4@s wouldnt be either|pg|| nt|grebrof: missing the AK of trumps, not always fun|pg|| nt|jcomyn: well ca ruff and h ak|pg|| nt|grebrof: yes|pg|| nt|jcomyn: see the one earlier missing ak of trumps slam|pg|| nt|mamos: S probably has to rise with @hA and play Club|pg|| nt|grebrof: I actually played 6@hs with single A vs my Ps single K|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s4|nt|eamongall: good afternoon |pg|| pc|s2|nt|jcomyn: cue bidding no doubt|pg|| nt|grebrof: you know - the multi|pg|| nt|hawe45: Team NONACO might be M-onaco|pg|| nt|vugraphpl9: hello|pg|| pc|d2|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|yke: what about double with the East hand? I think one of them will run|pg|| pc|sT|nt|mamos: yes the Slam missing AK of trumps was the result of RKCB and a 5@s response which pinpointed two missing KC when the agreed suit was @h|pg|| nt|vugraphpl9: It is, sry for that|pg|| nt|hawe45: Z = Zimmermann...|pg|| nt|danilo1: mini NT ... North is still not giving up slam ... ... need not to go over 4NT|pg|| pc|s6|nt|grebrof: can give ruff?|pg|| nt|jcomyn: J10xx wouldnt happen to me|pg|| pc|h5|pg|| nt|jcomyn: uses will bid this in two bids but maybe we are oldfashioned. They take 9 bids to get to the most unobvious contract u ever saw|pg|| nt|mamos: 1NT was 11-14|pg|| nt|jcomyn: looks as if the 19 ciount aint finished yet|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dJ|nt|eamongall: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/orrleaderb.html open teams running scores seem up |pg|| nt|yke: but maybe to 5@C :)|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|grebrof: very nice|pg|| nt|jcomyn: this is a real quare one - p opens 2d multi and you have void h and 7 spades - what was my partners suit|pg|| nt|grebrof: @s|pg|| nt|jcomyn: yep. One of my many most embarassing moments|pg|| nt|eamongall: good evening kacper |pg|| nt|danilo1: well ... if South decides to open .. in nat. system, may not be so easy for North to stop ... here ... mini NT and relays should have advantage ... seems North not using them|pg|| pc|dA|pg|| nt|jcomyn: now 10 bids which comes from opening weak|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c4|pc|c7|pg|| nt|grebrof: my P had 6 @hs and 3 @s after my multi and jumped to 4@s - what was my suit?|pg|| nt|jcomyn: big question around - who was the idiot who played in 2s+5|pg|| nt|jcomyn: thast makes things easy |pg|| pc|cK|nt|danilo1: in Open room .. 3NT made bd one ... after East's Dble ... and @H cashed ... West already exposed 5Hcp ... so @DK found|pg|| pc|h2|pc|c9|pc|h4|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|d4|pc|cT|nt|sunsamvar: nice @C duck|pg|| pc|h8|pg|| mc|9|nt|jbgood: Hi - Helgeness were in 5@c doubled|pg|| pg|| qx|o3|st||md|1SA864HAT432DJCJT7,SKT75H765DQT8742C,SJ3HKQJ8DA965C854,SQ92H9DK3CAKQ9632|sv|e|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2N!|mb|3C|nt|toral5: 2nt=limit or better in @H|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|nt|toral5: 3h is the limit here|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|toral5: stopped wel |pg|| pc|d4|pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dK|pc|h3|pc|d2|pg|| nt|toral5: not many south will open that hand.meckwells aggressive style prevailed here|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s3|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s7|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c7|pc|d7|pc|c4|pg|| pc|cA|pc|cT|pc|d8|pc|c5|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cJ|nt|toral5: a pick up for team mahaffey|pg|| pc|dT|pc|c8|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s6|pc|sT|pc|h8|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c3|st||md|1SA864HAT432DJCJT7,SKT75H765DQT8742C,SJ3HKQJ8DA965C854,SQ92H9DK3CAKQ9632|sv|e|nt|grebrof: idiot or not, +5 is a bad contract|pg|| nt|grebrof: that we all agree|pg|| nt|jcomyn: has to be spades|pg|| nt|jcomyn: never was justice in this game|pg|| nt|grebrof: NS at 18th - EW 21|pg|| nt|grebrof: these are just below 50%|pg|| nt|jcomyn: would you believe i wasnt the only idiot at the tabler. The clown on my right had 8 hearts - and PASSED 2d. I had an excuse|pg|| nt|vugraphpl9: We are waiting for NS|pg|| nt|grebrof: standings: http://b.poznan2011.pl/mxp/fa.html|pg|| nt|grebrof: thank you for info, Kacper |pg|| nt|grebrof: I also passed with 8 @hs once - I had Q8765432 and single @c A - multi before me|pg|| nt|jcomyn: well i suppose you had a good reason nto to reveal to lho which suit his partner has|pg|| nt|grebrof: hehe - I passed the whole board and scored 65% or so|pg|| nt|Walddk1: Welcome Jon|pg|| nt|jbgood: tu Rex:)|pg|| mb|1H|mb|p|nt|eamongall: bessis got 16 in round 1 and Nyshchyi got 10 |pg|| nt|yke: hi jon|pg|| mb|2C!|mb|3C|nt|eamongall: strong NT and transfer and probably play 2@S ... or as it is 1NT |pg|| nt|jcomyn: another light opening wont work|pg|| mb|3H|nt|hawe45: Probably in board 2, 6 @C is the best slam|pg|| nt|eamongall: personally I would attempt to play 2@S but I am not in Poznan |pg|| mb|p|nt|mamos: i cannot see any way to make 4@h on this board even if the defence fail to get a Spade ruff|pg|| nt|jcomyn: i am not bidding 2c on that hand to let opps have a cheap bid|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|nt|grebrof: 3nt doesnt make either|pg|| nt|vugraphpl9: they sit on wrong line - NS should be EW |pg|| nt|vugraphpl9: it does not matter TD said|pg|| nt|grebrof: ok, EW at 18th and NS 21|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|d7|nt|jcomyn: WHY CANT YOU LEAD MY SUIT howls e|pg|| nt|jbgood: brekka is an imaginative player - but will have problems here|pg|| pc|dA|nt|hawe45: North could even have hands, where 4 @S had a play - and where 1 NT was a bad spot|pg|| pc|d3|nt|jcomyn: not sure why w bids with such defence against hearts|pg|| pc|dJ|pg|| nt|grebrof: I would lead @ds|pg|| nt|jcomyn: s,s,s ruff goodnight|pg|| nt|jcomyn: oh yes of course u dont have any|pg|| pc|c4|nt|mamos: youve been peeking John|pg|| nt|jcomyn: and with a 5-3 fit ns maye have problems|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c7|pc|d4|pg|| nt|jcomyn: very true|pg|| nt|jcomyn: but i have been getting the defence right all day. Such an easy game when u can see the 4 hands|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cT|nt|danilo1: this should go down ... unfortunate lead ...|pg|| pc|d2|pc|c5|pg|| nt|grebrof: thats why I said I would lead @ds - and she did|pg|| pc|cA|pc|cJ|pc|s7|pc|c8|pg|| pc|dK|pc|h2|pc|d8|nt|mamos: There was a hand earlier in the week that Duboin played better than we di when we saw 52 cards and he saw 26|pg|| pc|d5|pg|| nt|grebrof: hehe|pg|| pc|h3|nt|danilo1: good recovery .. so -2|pg|| pc|h5|nt|eamongall: The two teams I watch for in the Open Teams ... Hanlon got 16 and McCormac remains at the starting gate after a smacking from Gromov |pg|| pc|hK|pc|h9|pg|| pc|d6|nt|grebrof: I have seen many of them - bridge is actually quite easy|pg|| pc|c2|pc|h4|pc|dT|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s3|pc|s2|pg|| nt|jcomyn: well i predicted ho tom hanlon would make slam because i know him so well not because i saw the cards. He didnt yet followed the line i predicted to the letter|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sK|pc|sJ|pc|s9|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o4|st||md|2S854HK9DAKT94CAJ5,SAJHAJ862D8753CT2,SK76HT75DQCKQ8743,SQT932HQ43DJ62C96|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|toral5: 3nt from south|pg|| mb|2N!|mb|p|nt|toral5: guess they play 14-16 nt|pg|| mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h6|nt|toral5: 2nt=@C as they play 3R=trf|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg|| nt|toral5: and 1nt-3@C=@D|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|c6|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d7|pc|dQ|pc|d2|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c9|pc|cJ|pc|cT|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|s6|pc|d6|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|h5|pc|dJ|pg|| mc|12|nt|toral5: a push|pg|| pg|| qx|c4|st||md|2S854HK9DAKT94CAJ5,SAJHAJ862D8753CT2,SK76HT75DQCKQ8743,SQT932HQ43DJ62C96|sv|b|nt|sunsamvar: we are lucky to be watching one of the world's top pairs- EW ie|pg|| nt|vugraphpl9: short break|pg|| nt|danilo1: as expected .. Bd2, difficult to stop Norrt in Nat system .. .(6NT -1) |pg|| nt|mamos: pause?|pg|| nt|jcomyn: well if you open with rubbish you cant complain|pg|| nt|jbgood: Kaninen (in 5th) up against the group leader|pg|| mb|p|mb|1C|nt|grebrof: ok, ty Kacper|pg|| mb|p|nt|jcomyn: 3nt i suppose|pg|| mb|1D|mb|1H|nt|jcomyn: not sdure i see the point of 3h|pg|| mb|p|nt|jbgood: sure|pg|| mb|p|nt|eamongall: Now there is a slim 1@S but the preemptive value ovr 1@C might make it worth it ...and being a passed hand |pg|| nt|eamongall: the combined 13 count is bullying the 27 count for now |pg|| nt|eamongall: but 4@Hs is a comfortable outcome for NS |pg|| nt|yke: in the south hand ofcourse|pg|| mb|3N|nt|mamos: It is easy for us oldies to look at the South hand and sneer at opening such a barren 11 count and attribute this to the failure of the Slam but all the modern experts play like ...|pg|| nt|mamos: this so must succeed |pg|| mb|p|nt|mamos: what would you open John ? 1@h?|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|jcomyn: yes|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: with the cards being fav maybe 9 tricks here|pg|| nt|eamongall: doubt and confusion can be induced easily but seems these folk are ok |pg|| nt|jbgood: and 13 tricks i predict:)|pg|| nt|jcomyn: n does not meet the 20-standard|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h5|nt|sunsamvar: 10 even|pg|| nt|eamongall: a @D will need to appear 1st or 2nd trick to hold to 10 tricks |pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg|| nt|jcomyn: whatever happened to the original weak NT opening promising a top honour in 3 suits and a minor honour in the 4th|pg|| nt|danilo1: hmmm ... If North opens 1@S ... gues south would only invite ... is 2@S stronger n system?|pg|| pc|d4|nt|grebrof: I can open 2 with that - but its almost 1|pg|| pc|d3|nt|eamongall: they are heading to a @H contract in the other room with silent opps |pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d2|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c6|pc|cA|pc|c2|pg|| nt|jcomyn: well maqybe 2 vul|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d5|nt|eamongall: gib browser |pg|| nt|eamongall: oops |pg|| nt|mamos: i found CC for NS says 3-10 this looks enormous K on the floor?|pg|| pc|h7|pc|d6|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d7|nt|mamos: NS have bid game anyway well done|pg|| nt|grebrof: yes|pg|| nt|jcomyn: problem when u ahave a good hand and a 2nd suit, that 2nd suit will never see the light of day. E could easily have 5d an one h|pg|| nt|vugraphpl9: running scores http://b.poznan2011.pl/mxp/fa.html|pg|| nt|grebrof: crossruff?|pg|| nt|jcomyn: so easay for N to know partner has extreme shortage in H|pg|| pc|s6|nt|grebrof: good auction anyway|pg|| pc|dJ|pg|| nt|danilo1: :)|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|o5|st||md|3SAK732HT7DAKQ7C62,SQT85HAKJ6DJ83C74,SJH9543DT52CKT983,S964HQ82D964CAQJ5|sv|n|nt|toral5: a big @C coming up for meckwell|pg|| mb|p|mb|1N!|nt|toral5: mini 1nt?|pg|| mb|d|nt|toral5: 9-11 types|pg|| nt|toral5: dbl=cards and west does have a problem|pg|| mb|2H!|mb|p|nt|toral5: xx might not be very fruitful considering the 9-11 nt|pg|| mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|nt|toral5: 2@C incase north decides to bid will be tragedy|pg|| nt|toral5: this is 800|pg|| nt|toral5: provided chopped|pg|| nt|toral5: can any one explain what was 2h here?|pg|| mb|3D|mb|p|nt|cenglund: 3D looks better|pg|| nt|hawe45: Majors...|pg|| nt|toral5: ok|pg|| nt|toral5: 3d=2 down|pg|| nt|toral5: sry 1 down|pg|| nt|hawe45: 2|pg|| nt|hawe45: Trump-lead = 2 down|pg|| nt|toral5: in fact 2 only.|pg|| nt|cenglund: Rodwell's 3C was a bit streched|pg|| nt|cenglund: Forced?|pg|| mb|4D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hA|pc|h3|nt|toral5: rodwell was lucky of not being penalised in 3c|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h7|pg|| nt|cenglund: It looks Meckwell went badly astray on this one|pg|| nt|toral5: lost connection|pg|| nt|toral5: he will find the trump shift|pg|| pc|d8|nt|toral5: 300 now|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d4|pc|d7|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s4|nt|toral5: finesse?|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sQ|pg|| nt|toral5: well done|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|d6|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|s2|nt|toral5: but @H taps the declarer|pg|| pc|s5|pc|d5|pc|s6|pg|| nt|toral5: missed the defence.now 200 only|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|hT|pc|hJ|pg|| nt|cenglund: Well played by Meckstroth|pg|| nt|toral5: still imps for kanin|pg|| nt|hawe45: Kanin must be a scandinavian team - up here: kanin = rabbit|pg|| nt|toral5: :)|pg|| nt|Walddk8: Norwegian|pg|| nt|bigtrain: hi everyone|pg|| nt|cenglund: Yes but he did his best to minimise the loss|pg|| nt|Walddk8: Brekka's BBO username is kaninen = the rabbit|pg|| nt|toral5: hi walter|pg|| pc|c7|nt|bigtrain: i miss anything interesting?|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cJ|pc|c2|pg|| nt|cenglund: Hi Walter|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sA|pc|s8|pc|c3|pg|| pc|dA|pc|dJ|pc|c9|pc|d9|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sT|pc|cT|pc|c5|pg|| pc|s3|pc|c4|pc|h5|pc|hQ|pg|| nt|Walddk8: E-W are women, Marianne and Ann-Karin, members of the Norway ladies team, so please remember she/her|pg|| pc|dK|pc|h6|pc|cK|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|c6|pc|hK|pc|h9|pc|cA|pg|| pg|| qx|c5|st||md|3SAK732HT7DAKQ7C62,SQT85HAKJ6DJ83C74,SJH9543DT52CKT983,S964HQ82D964CAQJ5|sv|n|nt|jbgood: sry - he only had 12... my counting is worse than my predictions:)|pg|| mb|p|nt|jcomyn: guess they wont get carried away|pg|| mb|p|nt|jcomyn: fun and games here minor slam against barrage in h|pg|| nt|grebrof: NS 26th - EW 24th|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: @s shd win the auction over @H here|pg|| nt|jcomyn: well you might have been right - w has to discard an ace|pg|| mb|1S|nt|mamos: some excitement here|pg|| nt|jcomyn: 6H|pg|| nt|grebrof: practical bid by Nehmert|pg|| nt|grebrof: 4@h doesnt have to be so strong at these colours|pg|| nt|grebrof: easy pass west|pg|| mb|p|nt|mamos: What can double be?|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: the points are evenly distributed..|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|grebrof: @S?|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: and as per the LAW , NS can make 9 tricks and EW 8 |pg|| nt|jcomyn: and coluld be the wrong one lol|pg|| pc|hA|nt|jcomyn: gaives n every chance now so might as well bid h now as later|pg|| nt|grebrof: 6@cs make too|pg|| nt|jcomyn: so dont let them get there easily|pg|| pc|h3|nt|grebrof: good idding by south|pg|| pc|h8|nt|jcomyn: did n really pass|pg|| nt|vugraphpl9: yes|pg|| pc|h7|pg|| nt|jcomyn: how do you id|pg|| nt|eamongall: a quiet board ... just when I was putting on the dinner |pg|| nt|jbgood: thank you for trying to save me, John:)|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h4|nt|grebrof: 5@d: we can play here if you dont have much in the majors - but N has|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hT|pg|| nt|jcomyn: why no h sacrifice nv v vul|pg|| nt|mamos: well done EW would have done well to save|pg|| nt|grebrof: hmmm|pg|| nt|grebrof: getting to 6 is good work too|pg|| nt|jcomyn: do u really want to defend with that e hand i think not|pg|| pc|h6|nt|eamongall: tetyusheva done well to go quietly |pg|| pc|h5|pc|hQ|nt|jcomyn: well it is such a mundane hand, w might go asleep and then wake up and throw the wrong ace|pg|| nt|jbgood: ruff and 4 rounds of @ds:)|pg|| nt|yke: that;s very double dummy!|pg|| pc|s2|pg|| nt|eamongall: same contract in the other room |pg|| pc|s3|pc|sQ|pc|sJ|nt|danilo1: looks like they play mini NT .. with range less than 12 :)|pg|| nt|jcomyn: anyone explain s opnes on a grotty 11 and n passes with a much better hand|pg|| pc|s4|pg|| nt|danilo1: 8-11 NT ... NV :)|pg|| nt|mamos: I cannot |pg|| nt|jcomyn: so the range is 11 to 11|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h9|pc|s9|nt|jbgood: sure?|pg|| pc|c2|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|c3|pg|| pc|sK|nt|jcomyn: I'm with jon|pg|| nt|jbgood: but he escapes now|pg|| pc|s8|nt|yke: lev should have played a club|pg|| pc|c8|pc|d4|pg|| pc|dA|nt|eamongall: one match has managed to rustle up 15 imps on the first 3 boards|pg|| nt|eamongall: zuban will mind the @Ds for -90 |pg|| pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|d9|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d8|pc|d5|nt|hawe45: If thi board will finish, we take board 16...|pg|| pc|d6|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dJ|pc|dT|pc|c5|pg|| pc|d7|mc|7|pg|| qx|o6|st||md|4SK8H752D752CAKQ86,SAT62HAQ94DK43CJ3,S743HKJ83DAJTC742,SQJ95HT6DQ986CT95|sv|e|nt|toral5: bigtrain will be a big asset here in understanding the meckwell methods;incase anything complex arises:)|pg|| mb|p|mb|1D|an| |mb|d|mb|r!|nt|bigtrain: XX = 4+@H|pg|| mb|1S|nt|hawe45: Tuff 3 NT in CR|pg|| nt|hawe45: 21 HCP|pg|| mb|d!|mb|p|nt|hawe45: Is lay-down|pg|| mb|1N|nt|bigtrain: X = 3fit|pg|| mb|p|nt|toral5: another great result in the other room for kanin|pg|| mb|p|nt|hawe45: - og the @S-lead, otherwise...OUF|pg|| mb|p|nt|bigtrain: been asked what 1N-2N is in RM -- its 5-card major stayman|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|bigtrain: forces game and asks for a 5-card major|pg|| nt|toral5: more imps for kanin|pg|| nt|hawe45: 7 IMP´s ready for take-off|pg|| nt|vugraphpld: Harding went to fetch water|pg|| nt|vugraphpld: and Meckstroth...|pg|| nt|toral5: :)|pg|| nt|toral5: lev had to find a @D lead to beat 3nt|pg|| nt|hawe45: No - only 8 tricks with double-dummy defense|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s3|pg|| nt|cenglund: Not really, any lead except spades will leave declarer short of 1 trick|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|s9|pc|s8|pg|| pc|sJ|nt|toral5: in fact any lead but @S beats 3nt|pg|| pc|h2|pc|s6|pc|s7|pg|| pc|s5|nt|toral5: yes|pg|| pc|d2|pc|sT|pc|c4|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|d5|pg|| nt|toral5: rodwell might end up ducking a @C|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d7|pc|dK|nt|toral5: sorry.private|pg|| pc|dA|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d8|pc|h5|pc|d4|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|cQ|pc|c3|pg|| pc|cA|pc|cJ|pc|c7|mc|7|nt|toral5: which is the site for current scores?|pg|| pg|| qx|c6|st||md|4SK8H752D752CAKQ86,SAT62HAQ94DK43CJ3,S743HKJ83DAJTC742,SQJ95HT6DQ986CT95|sv|e|nt|grebrof: I think E should have after Ps support - IF any should|pg|| nt|grebrof: true enough|pg|| nt|yke: another boring partscore deal|pg|| nt|jcomyn: these boards will put us asleep|pg|| mb|p|mb|1C|mb|d|nt|eamongall: Begejinte team 25-0 up on first 3 boards ... |pg|| mb|1D!|mb|1S|mb|2C|mb|2S|nt|jbgood: looks as if the play transclub|pg|| nt|jbgood: or just that 1@d denies 5 majors?|pg|| mb|d|nt|grebrof: pass?|pg|| nt|grebrof: yes|pg|| nt|eamongall: Great results service from Poznan as well as plenty of tables of vugraph |pg|| mb|p|nt|jcomyn: 6-3 clubs dont want to kno|pg|| nt|grebrof: let it go!|pg|| nt|mamos: EW have mostly had little to do so far|pg|| mb|2N|nt|eamongall: they will play in 4@S here but its a tough one |pg|| nt|hawe45: Seems strange to bid over 2 @S with the East hand - IF 2 "S is natural...|pg|| nt|hawe45: 2 @S|pg|| nt|eamongall: yes East hand is pretty slim |pg|| nt|hawe45: @H-values are poorly placed|pg|| nt|eamongall: other table roared quickly into 4@S 1@S 2@S 4@S |pg|| nt|hawe45: Without @H-warning|pg|| nt|eamongall: staying low in 3@S might not be possible now |pg|| mb|p|nt|hawe45: Oups...!|pg|| nt|jcomyn: curious 5-2 fit in 3 suits|pg|| nt|mamos: not a nice hand|pg|| mb|3N|nt|vugraphpl9: S thought 2@C is drury|pg|| nt|hawe45: This might be good for N/S - 4 @H Doubled ix expensive|pg|| mb|p|nt|jcomyn: i'd say u are right jon transfer|pg|| nt|yke: wow, this itoo high|pg|| mb|p|nt|danilo1: good choice by Westra to stay low|pg|| nt|danilo1: even 2@S may be too high with best def ... cashing 4 winners first ...|pg|| mb|p|nt|jbgood: probably the latter, since there was no supp x|pg|| pc|s2|nt|danilo1: @S9 excellent move ... |pg|| nt|jcomyn: yes but why the pause by s|pg|| nt|mamos: maybe two is two too high|pg|| nt|danilo1: ev. @D9 may risk South let it run|pg|| nt|jcomyn: ah sure 22hcp enough these days|pg|| nt|jbgood: he can make it now|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pg|| nt|jbgood: playing for a miracle in @hs|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h6|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s4|nt|jcomyn: oh they did pass two i dont believe it|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s8|pg|| pc|s6|nt|hawe45: North with @C Q-J - OUF!|pg|| nt|eamongall: that is possibly a full imp ... 340 against 370 |pg|| nt|hawe45: Even with the actual holding in South, a @S-lead would work fine. Trump-lead always does...|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sQ|pc|d2|pg|| pc|s9|nt|grebrof: lol|pg|| nt|mamos: current scores at http://b.poznan2011.pl/mxp/fa.html|pg|| nt|danilo1: really @H and not @C ? .. |pg|| pc|d5|pc|sT|pc|c2|pg|| nt|eamongall: @H looks bad but will come back in a ruff |pg|| nt|jcomyn: and miracles still happen|pg|| pc|d4|nt|grebrof: this is reasonable bridge by all players this contract|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d6|nt|grebrof: its even 8 tricks|pg|| pc|d7|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c5|nt|mamos: hmmm |pg|| nt|jcomyn: not what u would call good defence|pg|| nt|danilo1: after Goran (North) played excellent @S ... was it really so difficult for South to see @C H in his hand|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c3|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cJ|nt|jcomyn: cant agree to defend 2c with a 5-3 d fit and as singleton|pg|| nt|mamos: no one could make much with NV opps +90 will be ok|pg|| nt|jcomyn: at least push em somewhere|pg|| nt|jcomyn: 2d surely makes |pg|| nt|grebrof: maybe S should have bid 1@d|pg|| nt|grebrof: nice suit, dont you think?|pg|| nt|jcomyn: no but cant pass 2c either|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c9|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|jbgood: 21 combined - a favourable lead and a favourable lie - nothing much to ask for|pg|| pc|d3|pc|h8|pc|cT|pg|| pc|c8|pc|h4|pc|dT|pc|d8|pg|| pc|c6|nt|eamongall: losing his tricks the elegant way |pg|| pc|dK|pc|dJ|pc|d9|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h9|pc|hJ|pc|hT|pg|| nt|hawe45: E/W making 2 @S|pg|| pc|hK|pc|dQ|pc|h7|pc|hQ|pg|| pg|| qx|o7|st||md|1SJ82HAK9DT42C9876,S53HQ86DQ9653CAQ3,SAKQT976HT4DK87C4,S4HJ7532DAJCKJT52|sv|b|nt|vugraphpld: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/orrrunda4.html|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1S|nt|hawe45: 4 loosers - or an end play of East|pg|| nt|bigtrain: or a good read of east doubleton @DA :)|pg|| nt|hawe45: So @C-lead and @D back - and we shall see|pg|| mb|2C|mb|2S|mb|d|nt|hawe45: 2 @C - natural...?|pg|| nt|toral5: i think this 2@C bid will convey the position of @D ace especially after seeing @C ace with west|pg|| nt|bigtrain: he very well may read the hand correctly with the overcall|pg|| mb|4S|nt|hawe45: Another reason NOT to bid 2 @C|pg|| nt|toral5: rodwell will guess it right|pg|| mb|p|nt|bigtrain: lots of reasons not to bid 2@C|pg|| mb|p|nt|hawe45: - and GOOD reasons|pg|| nt|toral5: lev faltered in defence in other room|pg|| mb|p|nt|toral5: declarer played @D king:(|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|h4|pg|| nt|toral5: match will be over if rodwell misguesses @D|pg|| nt|hawe45: Small @D to the 7 is "free" - and you have made it|pg|| nt|toral5: dint understand the @D king play in the other room|pg|| nt|toral5: from kxx opp 10xx|pg|| nt|twcho: he didn't and subsequently east was being squeezed|pg|| nt|twcho: sorry, double squeezed|pg|| nt|toral5: when will east play j?frm j single or jx?|pg|| nt|toral5: looking at 10 on board|pg|| nt|toral5: especially when declarer played the king;it will be from kq or kx|pg|| nt|cenglund: Heart lead is very good for defence removing entries from the dummy|pg|| nt|toral5: if dec has kq,@D j will cost heavily\|pg|| nt|toral5: i think @D jack return will have to be from jack stiff|pg|| nt|toral5: so over taking for a ruff is very much obvious|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|c2|pg|| nt|cenglund: It requires very good card-reading to make this now|pg|| nt|toral5: dummy has enough trump entries as far as @D is rightly guessed|pg|| nt|toral5: after @C ace,@D ace has to be with north for 2@C|pg|| pc|c3|pc|sT|nt|twcho: the @cA will give away the @dA position|pg|| nt|toral5: and if east has aqj of @D,declarer can never make|pg|| nt|cenglund: Of course, it's now more likely that DA is offside|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c7|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s4|pc|sJ|pc|s3|pg|| nt|toral5: and at least rodwell is expected to guess this one right:)|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cQ|pc|sQ|pc|cT|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h3|pc|hK|pc|h8|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hQ|pc|sK|pc|h5|pg|| pc|s6|nt|hawe45: Good play now|pg|| pc|cK|pc|s8|pc|s5|pg|| nt|twcho: ok,now @c throw in|pg|| pc|c9|nt|twcho: no need to guess @d|pg|| nt|toral5: pitch @D|pg|| nt|twcho: well played by Rodwell|pg|| nt|cenglund: Clubs and hearts will be eliminated, he is going to make it|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c7|st||md|1SJ82HAK9DT42C9876,S53HQ86DQ9653CAQ3,SAKQT976HT4DK87C4,S4HJ7532DAJCKJT52|sv|b|nt|grebrof: 11hp and auction again is weired stuff for me|pg|| nt|grebrof: ok, new round|pg|| nt|mamos: What did Dan Maskell say at Wimbledon? "Oh I say"|pg|| nt|jcomyn: lol|pg|| nt|jcomyn: well he was polite - not what i would say|pg|| nt|mamos: messy set of boards continued here|pg|| nt|jcomyn: hope he bought some lottery tickets|pg|| nt|jbgood: Norwgian kibs are smiling:)|pg|| mb|p|nt|jcomyn: just going to say that myself|pg|| mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|nt|danilo1: Dble?|pg|| nt|mamos: pasS?|pg|| mb|p|nt|danilo1: coward :)|pg|| mb|p|nt|mamos: just some 50s|pg|| pc|cJ|nt|grebrof: NS at 15th and EW at 17th|pg|| pc|c7|nt|eamongall: seems 4 tricks are here for the defence ... unless the unlikely @D lead |pg|| pc|cA|pc|c4|pg|| nt|grebrof: Einarsson - Efraimsson leading still - now at 58% Ovidio at 2nd with 55% (roughly)|pg|| nt|danilo1: I like reopening Dbles 10/11+ last position over 1NT (especially strong NT) ... they may gain a lot ... and loose a little (in teams, ev. -180 is not that tragedy)|pg|| nt|jbgood: scienfitic approaches not the strongest point in this partnership|pg|| nt|jcomyn: will he duck the d or play for a being right|pg|| pc|d5|nt|hawe45: Or without @C-switch, when you get the @S King|pg|| nt|hawe45: @S Ace...|pg|| pc|dK|nt|jcomyn: amazing how it begins to tighten up to this extent|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d4|pc|d3|nt|mamos: QAxK :(|pg|| nt|danilo1: can we call @D6 Lavinthal?|pg|| pc|d7|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: and NS making 3 @H|pg|| nt|jbgood: a hasty king kong|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c6|nt|mamos: NS need to be careful here or a really hopeless contract will make|pg|| pc|c3|pc|s6|pg|| pc|sA|nt|hawe45: Correct now: @C Queen|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s2|nt|mamos: and it will|pg|| pc|s3|pg|| nt|danilo1: now I understan why no Dble by South :)|pg|| pc|sT|pc|h2|pc|sJ|pc|s5|pg|| nt|mamos: scoring appears to have stalled a little|pg|| nt|jbgood: but would have gone down even if ducked - unless E cashes the ace|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cQ|pc|s7|pc|c2|pg|| nt|jbgood: or could he eliminate side suits?|pg|| nt|jcomyn: i think it can be made|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|h3|pc|s8|pc|d6|pg|| pc|s9|pc|c5|pc|dT|pc|d9|pg|| pc|sK|pc|h5|pc|c9|pc|h6|pg|| nt|grebrof: ok, what board are we on now?|pg|| nt|jbgood: y - he makes7|pg|| mc|10|nt|jbgood: nice|pg|| pg|| qx|o8|st||md|2SA97654HKT6DATCK3,SKT2H87DQJ52CT987,SJHAQJ9432D86CAQ6,SQ83H5DK9743CJ542|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|nt|twcho: a cold grand here|pg|| mb|1S|nt|cenglund: Fuglestad should have continued hearts instead of clubs|pg|| nt|toral5: here comes a grand|pg|| mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|nt|twcho: can Meckwell bid it?|pg|| nt|bigtrain: don't think they'll bid it|pg|| mb|4N|mb|p|mb|5S|nt|bigtrain: 5@S = 2+Q|pg|| nt|cenglund: Rodwell has limited his HCP strength to 15|pg|| nt|toral5: what would have been 4@C from south?|pg|| nt|toral5: on 3h?|pg|| mb|p|nt|cenglund: How to show the singleton spade?|pg|| nt|toral5: agreeing @H with a @C cue?|pg|| mb|6C!|mb|p|nt|bigtrain: 6@C would ask in !@S|pg|| nt|toral5: i think 7 is coming\|pg|| mb|6D!|mb|p|nt|bigtrain: it shows all keys and asks @S high card holding|pg|| mb|6H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|bigtrain: 6@D says no K or Q|pg|| nt|toral5: yes|pg|| mb|p|nt|toral5: so they show pictures on the 6c ask and not control?|pg|| nt|bigtrain: yes high cards... can reask if room to discover length controls|pg|| nt|toral5: ok|pg|| nt|toral5: walter what wd have been 4c by south on 3h?|pg|| nt|bigtrain: secondary ask more valuable in @C auctions where the blackwood alot lower|pg|| nt|cenglund: It's always difficult to show singleton in partner's suit|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d6|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h7|pc|hQ|pc|h5|pg|| mc|13|pg|| qx|c8|st||md|2SA97654HKT6DATCK3,SKT2H87DQJ52CT987,SJHAQJ9432D86CAQ6,SQ83H5DK9743CJ542|sv|o|nt|mamos: 47|pg|| nt|grebrof: 47?|pg|| nt|grebrof: so, the scoring is fine|pg|| nt|mamos: 45 for me not but 46 now there|pg|| mb|p|nt|jbgood: needed @d jack overtaken and a di ruff:)|pg|| mb|1H|mb|p|nt|grebrof: how high?|pg|| nt|jcomyn: 1D? am i seeing things|pg|| nt|danilo1: very nice 6@C ... but will north ever bid @C?|pg|| nt|mamos: 8+ I guess|pg|| mb|2C!|mb|p|nt|hawe45: In practice, 5 @H D costs only 100|pg|| nt|mamos: NS have 6@c |pg|| nt|jcomyn: yes you want p to lead DK against s|pg|| nt|danilo1: well, third hand (not that I like it)|pg|| nt|jcomyn: i hate it|pg|| nt|danilo1: more interesting I guess is to discuss North first bid ... I agree that he is vounerable an in unpleasant second position ... still guess, I would not pass|pg|| nt|jcomyn: a slam at last|pg|| mb|2D!|nt|grebrof: ok, weaknt|pg|| nt|mamos: what should N do now?|pg|| mb|p|nt|hawe45: Best lead if doubled: @S KING!|pg|| nt|eamongall: well I think it will be bought in 5@HX|pg|| nt|danilo1: only 4@C? ... pd may pass that|pg|| nt|mamos: Seems hard for S to have any idea what N has|pg|| nt|jcomyn: well he did bid 4|pg|| nt|danilo1: he is lucky pd 18 ... + 5@H ... so no pass probably|pg|| nt|danilo1: I would bid 4@D - and over expected 4@H, 4@S|pg|| nt|jcomyn: anyone open the n hand|pg|| nt|danilo1: me|pg|| nt|danilo1: and 1@C|pg|| nt|jcomyn: what?|pg|| mb|4H|nt|grebrof: I ask for majors even with that - maybe the other hand can ruff when we have @s|pg|| mb|p|nt|eamongall: there goes the weak 2 bidding again|pg|| nt|danilo1: 4NT is I guess to play |pg|| nt|mamos: I think so if you dont bidding may be even higher before your next turn|pg|| nt|danilo1: ... mean what South meant|pg|| nt|jbgood: a grand even|pg|| mb|4N|nt|mamos: 15 + 14|pg|| nt|danilo1: South knows pd has @S (EW did not bid them)|pg|| mb|p|nt|eamongall: I guess it would be unusual for a 2@S 4@S auction to tackle 5@Hs for penos unless the 4@S chap is strong balanced |pg|| mb|5C|mb|p|nt|jcomyn: yea but he wont like that xx in d|pg|| mb|5N|mb|p|nt|mamos: oooohh are they on the same page??|pg|| nt|danilo1: opps .. South may now read @C as cue!!!!|pg|| mb|6C!|nt|eamongall: NS hands show the power of a couple of singletons ... especially the xxx opposite x in @Hs |pg|| nt|jbgood: and he will not know that prd has a @d ruff|pg|| mb|p|nt|jcomyn: 6h|pg|| mb|6D!|mb|p|nt|mamos: phew|pg|| mb|6H|mb|p|nt|jbgood: might go all in with the long spade suit?|pg|| mb|p|nt|jbgood: no|pg|| mb|p|nt|jcomyn: ah he really cant that is taking a POT SHOT|pg|| pc|h5|nt|hawe45: Very unusual @H 7-lead we saw here!|pg|| nt|jbgood: yes |pg|| pc|hT|nt|jbgood: right|pg|| pc|h7|mc|13|pg|| qx|o9|st||md|3SK53HKT65DKJ7CK54,SQJT82HA4DA63CA73,S976H7DT9854CT982,SA4HQJ9832DQ2CQJ6|sv|e|nt|hawe45: 11 tricks here = a lot|pg|| nt|toral5: yes.too much=11|pg|| nt|hawe45: But South is somehow endlayed|pg|| nt|toral5: does 4h really make?|pg|| nt|hawe45: The @s-suit will make your living|pg|| mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|nt|twcho: south is endplayed from the 1st trick|pg|| nt|toral5: severe pressure on a @C lead.though makes as the cards lie|pg|| nt|hawe45: @S-lead was helping at the other table|pg|| nt|bigtrain: sorry if i missed responding to anyone's questions... resend it if i missed you... there was alot of activity |pg|| mb|3C|mb|p|nt|twcho: the only lead south will not immediate suffer is a @c|pg|| nt|toral5: walter i was talking bout the previous hand|pg|| nt|toral5: say if south had bid 4c on 3h,what it wd have meant?|pg|| nt|toral5: doubt it to be natural|pg|| nt|bigtrain: art @H raise|pg|| nt|bigtrain: doesn't really help things much|pg|| nt|toral5: meaning a @C cue in favour of @H?|pg|| nt|bigtrain: artificial|pg|| mb|3D!|nt|toral5: ok|pg|| nt|hawe45: In most systems, East must bid 3 @D now and West 3 @H|pg|| mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|nt|toral5: the last thing ew wants is a 3nt bid by west|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|vugraphpld: W didnt alert 3@d|pg|| nt|toral5: harding surely will be tested here|pg|| nt|twcho: a difficult choice for Meckstroth|pg|| pc|c4|nt|bigtrain: @C seems best lead|pg|| nt|twcho: find the best lead|pg|| nt|toral5: beautiful pressure building lead|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c8|pc|cQ|pg|| nt|toral5: i bet at least 1 imp for mahaffey:)|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|hawe45: But less than 10 tricks = impossible|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h4|pc|h7|pg|| nt|bigtrain: i'll back that bet :)|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|hA|nt|hawe45: This was no good move in trump|pg|| nt|toral5: thank u walter.i have some support:)|pg|| pc|d8|pg|| nt|hawe45: After the @H Queen played, I take NO bet|pg|| nt|twcho: have to set up the @s|pg|| nt|twcho: now|pg|| nt|toral5: lol|pg|| nt|twcho: if not, she will go down|pg|| nt|toral5: many entries to set up @S.but still an imp|pg|| pc|s2|nt|hawe45: What else could one do now - than play on @S?|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sA|pc|s3|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sK|pc|s8|pc|s6|pg|| nt|hawe45: The lost IMP is due to the @S-lead at the other table|pg|| nt|hawe45: This is a claim|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c9|st||md|3SK53HKT65DKJ7CK54,SQJT82HA4DA63CA73,S976H7DT9854CT982,SA4HQJ9832DQ2CQJ6|sv|e|nt|grebrof: lol John|pg|| nt|jcomyn: this rotten 4-1 break again. soon we wont play in 4-4 fits any more|pg|| nt|vugraphpl9: I was told Cronier has a birthday today :)|pg|| nt|eamongall: Now we see the Germans grand slam bidding in action ... |pg|| nt|danilo1: RE ... looks like, well bid :)|pg|| nt|mamos: well done NS not sure I admire their auction but no arguing with success very awkward hand|pg|| mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|nt|hawe45: Let South start with some weak 2 @S...|pg|| nt|eamongall: 7@Hs is different but clearly hoping for 2 @D tricks |pg|| mb|1S|nt|jcomyn: ouch dont like 1h|pg|| mb|p|nt|hawe45: Yes, that was what I meant with unusual|pg|| mb|2H|nt|grebrof: new boats have arrived - here NS at 13th and EW at 12th|pg|| mb|p|nt|sunsamvar: nice @S fit|pg|| nt|hawe45: 1 @S - not my cup of coffee|pg|| nt|danilo1: pass or 1@H ... guess question for everyone ... I prefer pass|pg|| mb|3C|mb|p|nt|grebrof: congrats from BBO to her - and also with the win yesterday|pg|| nt|eamongall: sure |pg|| nt|mamos: pass|pg|| mb|3D|mb|p|nt|jcomyn: yea|pg|| nt|eamongall: yes a timely non vulnerable 2@S ... or madcap 3@S would stir things up severely |pg|| mb|3H|nt|grebrof: nice stop in 3nt|pg|| mb|p|mb|4H|nt|jcomyn: some one should explain to these players you are allowed to pass now and again|pg|| mb|p|nt|hawe45: I would prefer 2 @S (weak) on this South-hand than on the 6-4 hand, we just saw|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|jcomyn: you can never get ruffed in NT - as far as i know|pg|| nt|eamongall: with no interference this is just going to meat and spuds to this very strong EW |pg|| pc|s3|pc|sQ|nt|mamos: well maybe 1@h a reason for this outcome EW seem likely to make 3NT|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s4|pg|| nt|hawe45: This will probably be the only table to bid 7|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h7|nt|mamos: it might not of course |pg|| pc|h2|nt|mamos: there is an amusing symmetry about the Black suits|pg|| pc|h5|pg|| pc|h4|pc|s7|nt|grebrof: yes - sometimes its like a picture this game|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg|| nt|hawe45: Can even handle trumpd 4-0 - by North|pg|| pc|cK|nt|grebrof: well..|pg|| nt|hawe45: So we get closer to 9 tricks, nice defense (for declarer)|pg|| pc|cA|pc|cT|pc|c6|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|cQ|pc|c4|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h6|pc|s2|nt|grebrof: looks like no squeeze - claim?|pg|| nt|grebrof: and he did|pg|| pc|d8|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s8|pc|s9|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c5|pc|c7|pc|c8|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hT|pc|d3|pc|d4|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o10|st||md|4SQ42HATDKTCAQJ653,ST53HKQ65DQ653CT9,SAK9HJ73DAJ98C742,SJ876H9842D742CK8|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1C|an| |mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2C|an| |nt|twcho: looks like a better than 50% slam|pg|| nt|toral5: 6c if meckwell bid it up|pg|| mb|p|mb|2D!|nt|twcho: can Meckwell find it|pg|| mb|p|nt|bigtrain: 1@H is 5+@S GF or 11-13 BAL|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 2@C is nat ask|pg|| mb|2H!|mb|p|nt|bigtrain: 2@D 11-13 BAL|pg|| nt|toral5: after winning the last 1 imp bet,i m betting again on meckwell|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 2@H in minimum hand|pg|| nt|bigtrain: is|pg|| nt|bigtrain: i bet no on slam|pg|| nt|toral5: 4333 might discourage rodwell|pg|| mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|nt|bigtrain: 3@D would be natural showing a productive 3fit|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|bigtrain: 3@C is just natural|pg|| pc|h5|nt|toral5: walter won both the bets|pg|| pc|h3|nt|twcho: u know them too well, Walter. :)|pg|| pc|h8|nt|hawe45: 1 IMP fpr Mahaffey - I bet|pg|| pc|hT|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|s6|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c8|pc|cJ|pc|c9|pg|| nt|twcho: I think the bidding will be the same if you were one of them sitting there|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s5|pc|sK|pc|s7|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cK|mc|13|nt|vugraphpld: Thx all, bye:)|pg|| nt|toral5: :)|pg|| pg|| qx|c10|st||md|4SQ42HATDKTCAQJ653,ST53HKQ65DQ653CT9,SAK9HJ73DAJ98C742,SJ876H9842D742CK8|sv|b|nt|mamos: 630 wil be 80% or so for EW|pg|| nt|grebrof: many play 4@s which is 420|pg|| nt|hawe45: They let 4 @H win in OR on board 7, so big victory now - allthough the slam-swing against|pg|| nt|vugraphpl9: last bd and short break befor next round|pg|| nt|mamos: if so 1@h may cost NS :)|pg|| nt|vugraphpl9: last bd today|pg|| nt|vugraphpl9: thx and see you tomorrow|pg|| mb|p|nt|yke: another slem, but about 50% with a heart lead|pg|| mb|1C|mb|p|nt|jbgood: he will rebid 2 NT i think|pg|| nt|jcomyn: so a slem is a dodgy one then|pg|| nt|vugraphpl9: live scores http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/orrleaderb.html|pg|| nt|jbgood: if he gets a chance|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|nt|grebrof: 3nt again?|pg|| nt|hawe45: Dutch De Wijs-Muller bid 7 NT|pg|| nt|yke: well in 6@C you can try Ace of clubs in case the king is bare and then diamond finesse|pg|| mb|4N|nt|grebrof: 2@s - 3@s?|pg|| nt|jcomyn: so if you nplay in nt you are vul and in spades not vul - interesting|pg|| mb|p|nt|grebrof: good bid :)|pg|| mb|p|nt|hawe45: Very good lead this - also|pg|| nt|hawe45: East will take the Ace - and play a @D, I´m sure|pg|| mb|p|nt|danilo1: probable 1NT by South ... so will probably end in 3NT |pg|| nt|snorre: Helgemo open this hand 1NT. Brekka think it is a 18-19 NT...|pg|| pc|h8|nt|yke: I think it is too strong fro a 15-17 NT|pg|| nt|jbgood: Kvangrtaven will regret his 3 NT now - wrongsided and a possible slam miss|pg|| nt|snorre: 3NT north isn't much better than 6@c...|pg|| nt|yke: but played from the S hand, 6@C is as good as 3 or 4NT|pg|| pc|hT|nt|vugraphpl9: running scores http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/orrleaderb.html|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h7|pg|| pc|h5|nt|mamos: quick hand?|pg|| nt|grebrof: not so quick in the start|pg|| nt|mamos: will be good for EW because inevitably some pairs will not find NT|pg|| pc|h3|nt|yke: I don;t like the 3NT call|pg|| nt|jcomyn: i think 3nt is a dreadful bid|pg|| pc|h2|nt|danilo1: probably -1|pg|| pc|hA|pg|| nt|yke: agree|pg|| nt|snorre: practical bid: 13-15, no major|pg|| pc|s2|nt|sunsamvar: Great work by our operator Kacper from the venue|pg|| pc|s5|nt|jcomyn: doubt it|pg|| nt|jcomyn: small s|pg|| pc|sA|nt|grebrof: yes, good game again|pg|| pc|s6|pg|| pc|c2|nt|grebrof: good auction too|pg|| pc|c8|nt|sunsamvar: Great working with u Hans|pg|| nt|hawe45: Very logical - and good - from East, The @H Queen proves, that Wests @H need no help|pg|| pc|cJ|nt|hawe45: South should have covered the @S Queen - West i the dangerous hand|pg|| pc|c9|pg|| nt|sunsamvar: Tx to all the specs for ur comments and for watching|pg|| mc|12|nt|vugraphpl9: thx|pg|| nt|jcomyn: but whats the hurry please tell me that|pg|| pg||