vg|D EC 2011 Open Teams RR _,6_7,I,21,30,Zaleski,0,Bokadirekt SE,0| rs|5DEx-1,4SSx+3,3NS+2,3NN+1,4HS=,4HN=,2HE+3,3HE+2,5DS=,5DS=,3SW=,2HS+1,4SW=,4SW-1,4SN=,4SN=,3NE-2,4DW+1,3NW=,3NW+1| pn|D' AVOSSA,Efraimsson,Intonti,Morath,Gustawsson,Versace,Ahlesved,Zaleski|pg|| qx|o21|st||md|3SAJT62H96DA43CA73,SQ753HK83DJ765CQJ,SK98HQ7D8CKT98542,S4HAJT542DKQT92C6|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1H|nt|rcerreto: hi all|pg|| mb|1S|mb|2H|nt|rcerreto: 4@s in NS with EW which could sacrifice|pg|| mb|3H|an|.|mb|4D|nt|rcerreto: 4-1 trumps shoudn't harm too much|pg|| mb|4S|mb|5D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|nt|blum1956: hi all|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|eamongall: good morning all|pg|| nt|rcerreto: hi|pg|| nt|rcerreto: operator, when possible...|pg|| nt|rcerreto: NS names pls|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|d8|pc|dT|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|c5|pg|| pc|cA|pc|cJ|pc|c2|pc|c6|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cQ|pc|cK|nt|rcerreto: -1 if nothing strange happens in @h|pg|| pc|dQ|pg|| nt|blum1956: 3 obvious tricks to the defense if the declarer takes right view in hearts|pg|| nt|eamongall: I guess it is possible to make 5@S double dummy although the bidding indicates trump position also |pg|| pc|d9|pc|d4|pc|dJ|pc|c4|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h7|pc|h2|pc|h6|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|h9|pg|| mc|10|nt|blum1956: Double dummy you may just take a 1st round trump finesse when in 4@s|pg|| nt|rcerreto: any news who's playing NS?|pg|| pg|| qx|c21|st||md|3SAJT62H96DA43CA73,SQ753HK83DJ765CQJ,SK98HQ7D8CKT98542,S4HAJT542DKQT92C6|sv|n|nt|bagman: Hi all|pg|| mb|p|mb|1H|nt|Gerben42: welcome back in Poznan|pg|| mb|1S|nt|roswolf: hi all|pg|| mb|2H|nt|hawe45: A splinter in North would do fine - in later defense|pg|| mb|3H|mb|4D|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|hawe45: You have seen too manu bad overcalls, when you sell out with the North hand|pg|| mb|4S|mb|d|mb|p|nt|Gerben42: south hand is known as Bridge World Death Hand (BWDH)|pg|| nt|Gerben42: invitational values with 3-card support for partner|pg|| nt|bagman: South has a nice hand with spade values and N has an easy raise to game with 2 aces|pg|| nt|hawe45: East has built a trap - will remove to 5 @H, only losing 100 I think|pg|| nt|hawe45: Is there a reward for "slowest bid hand of the tournament" - without special reason...|pg|| nt|bridge_one: Hello all|pg|| nt|runnerup: hi all|pg|| nt|hawe45: Hello|pg|| mb|p|nt|Gerben42: with Qxxxx x Axxx xxx North would pass and 4@S would be cold|pg|| mb|p|pc|d6|nt|Gerben42: but there is normally no perfect answer|pg|| pc|d8|nt|roswolf: 10 tricks are on ice here|pg|| nt|roswolf: players names will be up in a mo|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|runnerup: looks dangerous -all tricks possible|pg|| pc|dA|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s3|pc|s8|pc|s4|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s5|pc|s9|nt|hawe45: 13 tricks - over|pg|| pc|h5|pg|| nt|hawe45: or 12|pg|| pc|sK|nt|bagman: One of the answers is to use an artificial tool to separate hands with 3 card spades and those with 0-2|pg|| nt|bridge_one: and 6 is down with @H lead|pg|| pc|h2|pc|s6|pc|s7|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c6|pc|cA|pc|cJ|pg|| mc|13|nt|hawe45: Funny hand|pg|| nt|bridge_one: funny for N/S |pg|| nt|hawe45: 1590 - a score not seen so often...|pg|| pg|| qx|o22|st||md|4SA6HAQJ9DKQCJ9832,SKJT95HT3DJ86CK75,SQ3H854DA7432CAT6,S8742HK762DT95CQ4|sv|e|nt|rcerreto: ok, Intonti - D'avossa then|pg|| mb|p|nt|rcerreto: thanks|pg|| mb|1C|an|.|mb|p|mb|2C|an|.|nt|rcerreto: NS play strong club when not vulnerable|pg|| mb|p|nt|rcerreto: with 1@h/@s opening as weak as 8+ HCP|pg|| mb|2D|an|.|mb|p|mb|3D|an|.|nt|rcerreto: when vulnerable, natural|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|nt|rcerreto: if I remember right, 2@c shows 8+ balanced|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sT|nt|rcerreto: they happend to right size the contract|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s2|pc|s6|pg|| nt|rcerreto: since @sK is with W|pg|| nt|rcerreto: thanks to @d splitting 3-3 and the @hK onside...|pg|| nt|blum1956: As the cards lie 3NT is makeable from both positions|pg|| nt|rcerreto: yes|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|hQ|pc|h3|pg|| nt|rcerreto: it makes from N as well|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d6|pc|d2|pc|d5|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d8|pc|d3|pc|d9|pg|| pc|c2|nt|rcerreto: but you're so happy when the @sQ wins :)|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cA|pc|c4|pg|| pc|dA|pc|dT|nt|eamongall: 4@SX+3 ... ouch |pg|| pc|c3|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|d4|pc|s4|pc|c8|pc|s5|pg|| pc|d7|nt|rcerreto: it hurts!|pg|| pc|s7|pc|c9|pc|sK|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h6|pc|hJ|pc|hT|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s9|pc|s3|pc|s8|pg|| pc|hA|pc|c5|pc|h8|pc|h7|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c22|st||md|4SA6HAQJ9DKQCJ9832,SKJT95HT3DJ86CK75,SQ3H854DA7432CAT6,S8742HK762DT95CQ4|sv|e|nt|eamongall: Here defence need to find the @C ruff in time to beat 4@Hs |pg|| nt|roswolf: 10 or 11 tricks operator?|pg|| mb|p|mb|1C!|nt|bridge_one: with 6/5 and only 1 defencive trick normally better to play in attack|pg|| mb|p|mb|1N|nt|runnerup: perhaps east should take it away -he has got support in hearts so ..|pg|| mb|p|mb|2C!|mb|p|mb|2D|nt|hawe45: About 12 tricks again - but lucky and only in South|pg|| nt|bridge_one: Jxxx in @D are very much - the double by Versace means balanced hand value in @S - Zaleski can reopen|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|nt|eamongall: the non-vul Townsend might venture an insurance 4@Hs |pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|bridge_one: so 2@C forcing one round|pg|| nt|hawe45: Best lead: @S King|pg|| nt|hawe45: Sorry - NORTH is declarer... - wake up|pg|| pc|h2|nt|roswolf: south wont get in much to lead trumps|pg|| nt|hawe45: But would also make on the @S-lead|pg|| nt|bridge_one: lead small @S possible but @H equivalent - many use to overcall 1@S in West to give the lead|pg|| nt|bridge_one: with weak 5332 i agree to pass like Versace|pg|| nt|hawe45: But an overcall would put the contract in South, so...|pg|| nt|runnerup: nothing really helps,but contracts should have been by south this time -by n= -if spade lead,but now 12|pg|| nt|bridge_one: the option between @H and @S lead is a typical problem in bridge|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|eamongall: Now defence need to get active |pg|| pc|h3|pc|h5|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|roswolf: and wont necessarily lead one anyway:)|pg|| nt|jbgood: hi Roland and all|pg|| nt|jbgood: sry - wrong table:)|pg|| pc|d6|nt|eamongall: still time |pg|| nt|bagman: N has to duck the @HK if W plays a low heart|pg|| nt|bagman: Both N and S know that there are no spade tricks to make|pg|| pc|d2|nt|bridge_one: i prefere to lead in the suit more solid, but without a solid suit i prefere the lead from small cards - but is is only a opinion|pg|| pc|d5|pg|| nt|bagman: They also see the clubs so they can make extra tricks only from trumps|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d8|pc|d3|pc|d9|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|cT|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s6|pc|sK|pc|s3|pg|| pc|s5|nt|eamongall: At another table McGann Brown have reached the happy position of having 3 vulnerable doubled undertricks available against 4@S ...they still have to collect them |pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s2|nt|Gerben42: going plus got to be worth something|pg|| nt|Gerben42: so far +100 is almost worth everything|pg|| nt|Gerben42: if Madala is N then S is Rimstedt|pg|| nt|Gerben42: operator please correct S name?|pg|| pc|sA|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c7|nt|bridge_one: i think finesse in @C give more % at declarer|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c4|pg|| pc|dA|pc|dT|pc|c3|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|d7|pc|s4|pc|c8|pc|s9|pg|| pc|d4|pc|s7|pc|c9|pc|sT|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h6|pc|hA|pc|hT|pg|| pc|h9|pc|cK|pc|h8|pc|hK|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hJ|pc|sJ|pc|c6|pg|| pg|| qx|o23|st||md|1ST5HAK873DAQT74CA,SQJ9HT5DK9852CQJ5,SK832HQ62DJC98763,SA764HJ94D63CKT42|sv|b|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|rcerreto: 5-1@d are a threat|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|blum1956: This is challenging...|pg|| nt|rcerreto: W doesn't know about 5@d in declarer's hand|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|s5|pg|| nt|rcerreto: he could discard one|pg|| pc|sJ|nt|blum1956: The declarer needs diamond ruff|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s6|pc|sT|pg|| nt|rcerreto: and !@s gets established|pg|| nt|blum1956: not yet|pg|| nt|rcerreto: much better to ruff 1@d in dummy|pg|| nt|rcerreto: but, with @h 4-1 you can't afford to give 1 @d away|pg|| nt|blum1956: But if he starts with the @d Ace that may be a disaster|pg|| nt|rcerreto: difficult hand, with closed cards|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|cA|pg|| nt|blum1956: Yes he does not know that hearts are 3-2 diamonds being 5-2|pg|| nt|eamongall: it will be interesting to see how declarer plays these @Ds ...of course we all see the right way double dummy |pg|| nt|rcerreto: maybe 2 round of trumps ending in dummy|pg|| nt|rcerreto: if they behave, duck one @d|pg|| nt|blum1956: But this may not help if the last trump is with West|pg|| nt|rcerreto: a spec (rightly) says: better just one round to the @hQ and then @d|pg|| nt|eamongall: how about for the rest of this match no kibitzers press GIB button and use our brains to work it out |pg|| nt|blum1956: @d what? Ruffing finess? Duck?|pg|| nt|eamongall: I think its a tough problem for declarer |pg|| nt|rcerreto: I think you can handle one bad break, not two|pg|| nt|eamongall: but if he decides 3-2 @Hs and 5-2 or better @Ds he can go ahead in some comfort|pg|| nt|rcerreto: 4-1@h more likely than @d 5-2 ?|pg|| nt|rcerreto: no|pg|| nt|rcerreto: 3-2 more probable tham 4-3|pg|| pc|h3|nt|rcerreto: ouch|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hQ|pc|h4|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d3|nt|rcerreto: ah|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dK|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h2|nt|rcerreto: this is better|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hK|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d5|pc|h6|pc|d6|pg|| pc|c6|nt|rcerreto: well played|pg|| pc|cT|pc|h7|pc|c5|pg|| nt|blum1956: well done|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c23|st||md|1ST5HAK873DAQT74CA,SQJ9HT5DK9852CQJ5,SK832HQ62DJC98763,SA764HJ94D63CKT42|sv|b|nt|runnerup: took 10 -so -1 imp|pg|| mb|1C|nt|bagman: EW are currently 4th fighting for a medal|pg|| mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|3D!|an|5!H 5!D 16-19|mb|p|mb|4H|nt|runnerup: normal 4 @h = with no other ideas -from anyone -looks like it ,but..|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|bagman: Rimsted clearly gambling with her heart suit|pg|| mb|p|nt|Gerben42: some would call it practical :)|pg|| nt|bridge_one: all colors taked by weak players :)|pg|| nt|bridge_one: North bid both, @D and @H|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h3|pc|hT|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d6|pc|d4|pc|dK|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|sA|nt|Gerben42: with a bit more fortune it would have been a claimer|pg|| nt|bagman: In pairs it might not be that practical as the bonus for the game is not that big as in teams|pg|| pc|s5|pg|| nt|bridge_one: duck this @D could be a idea|pg|| nt|hawe45: Gives the same result, if South plays safe|pg|| nt|bridge_one: but give at south the chance to fault|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sT|nt|hawe45: Absolutely|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s2|pg|| pc|d8|pc|h6|pc|d3|pc|d7|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h9|pc|hA|pc|h5|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o24|st||md|2SK632HQ92DA7C9753,SJ875HJ65DJT54CK4,SQ94HK7DK98632CQ6,SATHAT843DQCAJT82|sv|o|nt|rcerreto: as usual, easier with open cards|pg|| nt|eamongall: yes made it look easy |pg|| nt|eamongall: P 1NT so |pg|| nt|rcerreto: ok, this makes a better sense|pg|| mb|p|mb|1N|nt|blum1956: Playing that way he could cover some 4-1 hearts if the diamond finesse worked|pg|| mb|2C|mb|p|nt|rcerreto: how weak can be a weak NT?|pg|| mb|2D|nt|blum1956: Looks as East playing 2 hearts|pg|| mb|d|mb|2H|nt|rcerreto: hmmm|pg|| nt|rcerreto: I think N opened 1NT here|pg|| nt|rcerreto: operator, are you sure?|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|blum1956: certainly North did|pg|| nt|rcerreto: I don't think N is playing 2@h|pg|| nt|rcerreto: NS when white play very weak (9-11) NT, 1st and 2nd position|pg|| mb|p|pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d2|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s5|pc|s9|pc|sT|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|cK|pc|c6|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg|| nt|blum1956: The declarer makes 10 tricks if he plays a trump now |pg|| pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c4|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hQ|pc|h6|pc|h7|pg|| nt|rcerreto: make it 11|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dT|pc|dK|pc|h4|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c24|st||md|2SK632HQ92DA7C9753,SJ875HJ65DJT54CK4,SQ94HK7DK98632CQ6,SATHAT843DQCAJT82|sv|o|nt|bagman: with both spades and diamonds open 3NT requires some luck|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1H|nt|bridge_one: same defence in other room |pg|| mb|p|mb|2H|nt|bridge_one: 2@H is limited at 9 hcp 3 cards raise|pg|| mb|3D|nt|runnerup: you have to guess well to make 4 @h -but that is bedt|pg|| nt|hawe45: A poor 4 @H - but you might be forced to "guess" right|pg|| nt|bridge_one: East is evaluating what bid|pg|| nt|runnerup: this @d lead asked may help to get rid off spade looser|pg|| mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c5|nt|bagman: Declarer needs to ruff the heart losers and discard a club on a diamond|pg|| nt|hawe45: UNDO|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c6|pc|c2|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h7|pc|hT|nt|runnerup: no fight now just posible over tricks |pg|| pc|hQ|pg|| nt|bagman: The @DA must be with E: if W has it, then E has the clubs|pg|| nt|hawe45: But how can you play bridge - NOT leading partners suit with Ace-x???|pg|| nt|hawe45: You MUST have seen too many bad overcalls|pg|| nt|bridge_one: 2@H now|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s7|pc|s9|pc|sT|pg|| nt|hawe45: Happy Christmas now|pg|| nt|bridge_one: push hand|pg|| nt|runnerup: looks srange but no spade losers went away |pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h6|pc|hK|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h9|pc|hJ|pc|d3|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pc|c3|pg|| mc|11|nt|bagman: Declarer wondering if he can throw E in for a club trick|pg|| pg|| qx|o25|st||md|3SK97HQ6DKJT875C98,SQJT654H985D2CT43,SA832HKJ4DA963CA7,SHAT732DQ4CKQJ652|sv|e|mb|1C|an|.|nt|rcerreto: strong club when not vuln.|pg|| mb|2C|nt|eamongall: I think will play 3NT NS |pg|| mb|2D|mb|3C|nt|rcerreto: EW can make some noise|pg|| mb|3D|nt|rcerreto: but vuln. they can't go too far|pg|| nt|blum1956: NS may be afraid of the weak club guard |pg|| nt|rcerreto: still, 4@c looks a good save on 3NT|pg|| nt|eamongall: 4@C nearly make |pg|| nt|rcerreto: so does 5@d I think|pg|| nt|eamongall: 9 tricks |pg|| nt|blum1956: But not that clear red against green|pg|| nt|rcerreto: if not for a @s ruff|pg|| mb|4C|mb|p|mb|p|nt|blum1956: 5@d is most natural here|pg|| nt|blum1956: But unfortunately wrongsided|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|mb|5D|nt|rcerreto: S pass was forcing|pg|| mb|p|nt|rcerreto: N's dbl not inviting|pg|| nt|rcerreto: 5@d a good final decision|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|rcerreto: now it's up to W|pg|| nt|blum1956: will East double asking for ruff?|pg|| nt|blum1956: no|pg|| pc|cT|nt|eamongall: after 2@D bid NS in game forcing situation so cannot stop unless double opps or bid game ... thus forcing pass ... |pg|| nt|rcerreto: chance missed|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c8|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|dK|pc|d2|pg|| mc|11|nt|rcerreto: NS are good friends of mine, doing my best to stay neutral :)|pg|| pg|| qx|c25|st||md|3SK97HQ6DKJT875C98,SQJT654H985D2CT43,SA832HKJ4DA963CA7,SHAT732DQ4CKQJ652|sv|e|nt|Gerben42: after 1@C the E hand is too big for 4@H I guess|pg|| nt|bagman: NS can make a minor suit slam|pg|| nt|bagman: Maybe EW have some Namyats type of device over 1m openings|pg|| nt|Gerben42: 3N-2 was only worth 20%|pg|| nt|Gerben42: last round not finished yet?|pg|| nt|bagman: If N can show real clubs, S hand becomes very valuable with the source of tricks, heart control and trump support|pg|| nt|Gerben42: if it starts 1@C 4@H, what does S bid?|pg|| nt|Gerben42: 4NT perhaps|pg|| nt|bagman: but E has a hand where she can prevent NS from changing that information. After 1@C, E can bid 4@H and then?|pg|| nt|Gerben42: esp. tough if 1@C can be short (3 or even 2 cards)|pg|| nt|bagman: if 4NT shows primary diamonds and secondary clubs then it's the bid|pg|| nt|Gerben42: the problem with such a bid is - what will pd think it is|pg|| nt|bagman: I wouldn't be surprised if there are some other agreements for the meaning of 4NT|pg|| nt|bagman: or no agreements :)|pg|| nt|Gerben42: this is an area where regular partnerships are ahead of the game|pg|| nt|bagman: 6@HX is 500; it's better than the vulnerable game for EW so they might take the sac|pg|| nt|runnerup: 11 in both tables and we though how to make 10|pg|| mb|1N|nt|Gerben42: something to be said for 5@H overcall too|pg|| nt|bridge_one: in 4@H in other match one made one down|pg|| nt|hawe45: 5 @D N/S should end the auction|pg|| mb|3C|mb|3D|nt|bagman: against a strong 1@C 5@H would be fine|pg|| nt|runnerup: 3nt also,but ew can bid more|pg|| mb|4C|mb|5C|nt|bridge_one: 5@D can be beated with @S lead|pg|| nt|runnerup: no just loose that|pg|| mb|p|nt|runnerup: small from table |pg|| mb|5D|mb|p|mb|p|nt|bridge_one: after pass at 5@C @S lead became possible|pg|| nt|hawe45: Lightner...|pg|| nt|bridge_one: @S ruff, K @C - declarer lose the ruff, one @C and A@H|pg|| mb|p|nt|runnerup: ok wrong hand|pg|| nt|hawe45: No right hand|pg|| nt|bridge_one: many pair use pass at 5@C like OK to lead @C, instead DBL means to lead in another suit|pg|| nt|bridge_one: but i don't know the gadget played by E/W|pg|| pc|c3|nt|runnerup: so it was all academical|pg|| pc|cA|nt|bagman: Malinowski has very little defense and can hope that they go down only 3|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c8|pg|| nt|bridge_one: now np|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d4|nt|bagman: Good time to take the save; in pairs taking an 800 save against a making slam is not a way to win; normally you should take your chances and try to beat the slam|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d2|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|s6|pc|dA|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|h4|mc|11|nt|bagman: (unless the slam is such that everybody bids and makes it)|pg|| pg|| qx|o26|st||md|4SJ3HAKQ843D63CQ98,SAQT87H765DT84CK5,SK6HJ2DA9752CJ762,S9542HT9DKQJCAT43|sv|b|nt|blum1956: It seems that was a wrong decision by East. NS bidding so strongly, Easts double could mean nothing but a ruff|pg|| nt|rcerreto: agreed|pg|| nt|rcerreto: maybe he feared that a ruff wouldn't suffice|pg|| mb|p|nt|blum1956: If South has a singleton club, yes|pg|| nt|rcerreto: a wrong decision, likely|pg|| mb|1H|mb|1S|mb|d|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|rcerreto: 3@h is a "mixed raise", 4 card support in a fair hand|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h9|nt|rcerreto: EW got right on the spot, 4 loosers|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h5|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h6|pc|h2|pc|hT|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|sK|pc|c3|pg|| nt|rcerreto: S was hoping for a @s 10 with partner (or Qx or Jx)|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c4|nt|rcerreto: to no use|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|rcerreto: pd had a natural @s winner|pg|| pc|cK|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c26|st||md|4SJ3HAKQ843D63CQ98,SAQT87H765DT84CK5,SK6HJ2DA9752CJ762,S9542HT9DKQJCAT43|sv|b|nt|bagman: If declarer planned to steal a the spade, she should have tried it before drawing trumps; the early play should have been either the steal attempt or claim -3 :)|pg|| nt|bridge_one: in other room the auction was different, so the lead was @C|pg|| mb|p|mb|2H!|mb|p|mb|p|nt|bridge_one: 3@H for N/S and 3@S for E/W here|pg|| nt|runnerup: may end for double partscore swing|pg|| mb|p|nt|bridge_one: 2@H open probably 10/12 constructive (and 2@D multi)|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|c8|pg|| nt|bagman: Having showed 44 majors and getting no reaction from partner, W could show his 3 card support expecting to be in a decent trump suit|pg|| pc|c5|nt|eamongall: If anybody is following a pair you can find their probable table from the following |pg|| pc|c6|nt|bagman: S wants to compete but the majors are behind her so she gives up|pg|| nt|bridge_one: Q@C help ,,, opps |pg|| pc|cT|pc|cQ|pg|| nt|bridge_one: OK|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h2|pc|h9|pg|| pc|h3|nt|eamongall: We are covering tables 8-15 as shown on the results web page ... so the bottom 8 lines are tables H G F E A B C D in that order |pg|| pc|h6|pc|hJ|pc|hT|pg|| pc|c7|nt|eamongall: http://b.poznan2011.pl/mxp/fa.html|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c9|pc|d4|pg|| pc|c4|nt|eamongall: this is table 13 of 15 in play tables and 3rd line from bottom of scoresheet |pg|| pc|d3|pc|h7|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|d8|nt|bagman: Now E can ruff the diamond and try the heart to the K|pg|| nt|eamongall: Most pairs move to the table of the pair below them next ... ie 12 goes where 11 used to be |pg|| pc|dA|pc|dJ|pc|d6|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dQ|pc|h4|pc|dT|pg|| pc|hK|pc|s7|nt|bagman: The heart attempt is likely to fail as N has shown @DA and @CK already|pg|| pc|d5|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s3|nt|bagman: but there was nothing better to try|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s6|nt|bagman: NS currently the 7th; EW about that much from the bottom|pg|| pc|s4|pg|| mc|9|nt|bridge_one: J @H A K and @C would discard a @D over the good @C in the dummy|pg|| pg|| qx|o27|st||md|1S43HK98DQT842C974,SAKJ87H65DJCAQJ85,SQHAQT742DA75CK32,ST9652HJ3DK963CT6|sv|o|mb|p|nt|rcerreto: thanks|pg|| mb|1S|nt|rcerreto: hmmm|pg|| mb|2H|nt|eamongall: same 5@Ds in closed room ... same @C interference ..waiting the lead |pg|| nt|eamongall: board 25|pg|| mb|4S|nt|rcerreto: no dbl in CR either?|pg|| nt|eamongall: nope |pg|| nt|eamongall: and same @C lead |pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|rcerreto: again, easier for us (looking at the cards) than for them|pg|| mb|p|pc|sQ|nt|rcerreto: normal preemptive raise by E|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|sA|pg|| nt|eamongall: seems to be 4@S-1 |pg|| nt|rcerreto: 4 tricks available to NS|pg|| nt|rcerreto: but they'd rather cash|pg|| nt|rcerreto: before decl. can get discards|pg|| pc|sK|pc|h7|pc|s5|pc|s3|pg|| nt|rcerreto: also 4@h shoud fail|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d5|pc|dK|pc|d8|pg|| nt|rcerreto: but only if defense opens @c timely|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c9|pc|c5|pc|cK|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h8|pc|h5|pg|| nt|rcerreto: the @d trick flew away|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hJ|pc|h9|pc|h6|pg|| nt|eamongall: they allowed @D go past ... yikes |pg|| mc|10|nt|rcerreto: the setting trick with it|pg|| nt|blum1956: West is happy that his diamond singleton was a Jack))|pg|| pg|| qx|c27|st||md|1S43HK98DQT842C974,SAKJ87H65DJCAQJ85,SQHAQT742DA75CK32,ST9652HJ3DK963CT6|sv|o|nt|hawe45: 4 @S making - good luck|pg|| mb|p|nt|bridge_one: 5@H 2 down|pg|| mb|1S|mb|2H|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|bridge_one: 4@S correct bid !|pg|| mb|p|pc|hA|pc|h3|nt|runnerup: north has not found hearts obfiously -so svedish increasing lead perhaps|pg|| pc|h8|nt|bagman: E doesn't want to lead from her collection|pg|| nt|bagman: Every card might be right or wrong|pg|| pc|h5|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hJ|pc|hK|pc|h6|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|c6|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|d5|nt|hawe45: Trump-lead, North then ducked the @D...|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d4|pc|c5|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|sQ|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o28|st||md|2SJT9876HQJ83DA6C9,S32HT7DT9874CKQ87,S54HAK4DKJ532CAJ2,SAKQH9652DQCT6543|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|rcerreto: Intonti is feeling very unhappy|pg|| nt|eamongall: 6 or 7 imps coming for Bokadireckt on 26 with double part score win ..3@S and 2@H|pg|| mb|4H|an|.|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|nt|rcerreto: 4@h is old fashioned transfer to 4@s|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|sK|nt|rcerreto: with 6-4 it's never clear whether to look for a 4-4 fit or not|pg|| nt|eamongall: Is it the top 4 in each group to progress to Swiss A ... and rest in Swiss B|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s2|pc|s4|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s7|pc|s3|pc|s5|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c28|st||md|2SJT9876HQJ83DA6C9,S32HT7DT9874CKQ87,S54HAK4DKJ532CAJ2,SAKQH9652DQCT6543|sv|n|nt|eamongall: My good friends here McGann and Brown |pg|| nt|eamongall: they owe me several pints of guiness |pg|| nt|bridge_one: 4@S made in other room ecause duck the A in @D|pg|| mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|4D|nt|runnerup: nothing should happen here but ..|pg|| mb|p|mb|4S|nt|Walddk2: Welcome to Barbara Apel|pg|| nt|barbyh: hi all, Barbara from Las vegas|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|eamongall: a decent score for NS for 1NT up 2 on board 7 |pg|| nt|bagman: The spade lead was unlucky for NS|pg|| mb|p|nt|eamongall: well there is a generous lead from McGann he won;t be happy |pg|| nt|hawe45: A fast - flat - board|pg|| pc|c3|nt|bridge_one: i bet 10 tricks here :)|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sQ|nt|barbyh: could have heldthem to 1 less|pg|| nt|bagman: There is a theory, which states that against blind 3NT one should lead from the worse 4-carder from a 4432|pg|| nt|barbyh: against matchpoints or imps?|pg|| nt|bagman: both|pg|| nt|bagman: I don't subscribe to that theory but I was told that it was backed up by a huge simulation|pg|| nt|eamongall: The good news for McGann on the last board is some 3NT+2 company is appearing ...|pg|| nt|bagman: who knows; at least it makes leading easy|pg|| nt|barbyh: true, |pg|| nt|barbyh: well in this case lead from a club and you holdthemto 4|pg|| nt|bagman: The diamond lead (suggested by the theory) holds the contract to 4, too|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s2|pg|| pc|c5|pc|s7|pc|c8|pc|c2|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s3|pc|s5|pc|sK|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o29|st||md|3S9642HJ93D5CQJ863,SAK73HKT872D93CKT,SJ85HA65DT74CA954,SQTHQ4DAKQJ862C72|sv|b|nt|blum1956: Certainly Intonti had not a lot of time to think when Weat led the @dJ. But he had three tricks with good chances for the fourth, so ducking the diamond was extremely dangerous|pg|| nt|rcerreto: little he knew|pg|| mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|nt|rcerreto: did he know who had @h K ?|pg|| nt|eamongall: board 27 ...is 4@S in other room same 2@H overcall |pg|| mb|1H|mb|p|nt|rcerreto: he was so desperately looking for an entry to pd|pg|| mb|3D|nt|rcerreto: that... on @dJ...|pg|| nt|eamongall: but @DA lead |pg|| nt|eamongall: and @HA |pg|| mb|p|mb|3H|nt|rcerreto: can't we understand the poor fellow?|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|nt|blum1956: No of course he did not. But rising with the @dA needed not to help the declarer (while still could)|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|eamongall: and 4 tricks are in the bag in 17 seconds |pg|| nt|rcerreto: it's always a nightmare which I customarily solve in the wrong way|pg|| pc|c3|nt|rcerreto: not just me, it seems :)|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c2|pg|| nt|rcerreto: in the while...|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c7|pc|cJ|pc|cT|pg|| nt|rcerreto: a 3NT wrong sided|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|h2|pc|c5|nt|rcerreto: decl had a chance (to play the 10) but only in theory|pg|| pc|h4|pg|| pc|c6|nt|eamongall: quote fabsayc .." declarer unlikely to misguess diamonds anyway with say J10 in diamonds, and that is crux of defense"|pg|| nt|rcerreto: playing the K is a much better chance|pg|| nt|eamongall: this is about board 25 |pg|| mc|8|nt|rcerreto: yes, I agree|pg|| pg|| qx|c29|st||md|3S9642HJ93D5CQJ863,SAK73HKT872D93CKT,SJ85HA65DT74CA954,SQTHQ4DAKQJ862C72|sv|b|nt|bagman: I probably would have lead the @S, too :( (maybe there's something in that theory, after all)|pg|| nt|hawe45: West must play this 3 NT|pg|| mb|p|nt|runnerup: 3nt in wrong hand so chance for Zaleski|pg|| nt|hawe45: South led a small @C, but East had to go wrong|pg|| mb|3N|nt|bridge_one: no|pg|| mb|p|nt|bridge_one: 1@D 3@D easy ...|pg|| nt|runnerup: 3nt opening not everyones choice|pg|| mb|4D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s5|nt|runnerup: winnig some ipms strange way|pg|| nt|hawe45: To miss this 5 @D - played by West - will bring Zaleski 8 IMP|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s2|pc|s3|pg|| nt|bagman: W has so much extras that he can afford to bid the game in NT instead of looking for the spades|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d3|pc|d4|pg|| nt|bridge_one: 4@D great choice by Versace|pg|| pc|dK|mc|11|nt|runnerup: perhaps even he didnt expect mojor Q eens to table |pg|| pg|| qx|o30|st||md|4S8HK7D765CAQT6542,SAK43H643DJT2CKJ9,SQJ52HQJT982DK3C7,ST976HA5DAQ984C83|sv|o|nt|rcerreto: studying the problem it's clear you'd raise with the A|pg|| nt|rcerreto: but, at the table, tempo is the problem|pg|| nt|rcerreto: when you duck, you do it quickly|pg|| mb|1D|mb|2C|nt|rcerreto: Intonti has never beena quick player|pg|| mb|d|nt|eamongall: if dumbovitch team gets a few good boards 7-10 zaleski could be down to 5th place in group |pg|| nt|rcerreto: giving him time, he's pretty good|pg|| nt|blum1956: There is still one round to go|pg|| nt|eamongall: absolutely one round to go yet |pg|| mb|2D|nt|eamongall: I think top 4 in each group to Swiss A but I am not sure |pg|| mb|p|mb|3C|nt|rcerreto: going toward 3NT|pg|| nt|rcerreto: where 4@s in the 4-4 fit could (and should) fail|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hQ|nt|rcerreto: 6-2 @h are very helpful|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|h3|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h4|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s8|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|d5|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d6|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d7|pc|d2|pc|h2|pg|| pc|d9|pc|c2|pc|s3|pc|h8|pg|| pc|d8|pc|c4|pc|c9|pc|c7|pg|| nt|eamongall: zaleski gets 8 imps for Versace declaring 4@D+1 on 29 |pg|| pc|c8|pc|cA|pc|cJ|pc|h9|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cK|nt|rcerreto: even with @h 5-3 I guess that N would feel some pressure on @ds |pg|| pc|s5|pc|c3|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sJ|pc|s6|pc|c6|pg|| mc|9|nt|rcerreto: 8 badly needed imps|pg|| nt|rcerreto: is it over?|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: next match 13.30 bye|pg|| nt|rcerreto: bye everyone|pg|| nt|eamongall: they declaring 3NT in other room |pg|| nt|blum1956: This board is against the Zaleski team - it is not that easy to avoid the 4@s contract|pg|| pg|| qx|c30|st||md|4S8HK7D765CAQT6542,SAK43H643DJT2CKJ9,SQJ52HQJT982DK3C7,ST976HA5DAQ984C83|sv|o|mb|1D|mb|3C|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hQ|nt|bagman: EW can make here 10 tricks in NT on a club lead 11 tricks otherwise|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h7|pc|h3|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hA|pc|hK|pc|h4|pg|| nt|bagman: E bid 3NT to show the spade stopper in case W was interested in that; If W had a huge @H raise, he would not pass 3NT|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s8|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d5|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d6|pc|dT|nt|bagman: Declarer is going to run the diamonds hoping for too many heart discards|pg|| pc|d3|pg|| pc|d2|nt|runnerup: killing lead |pg|| pc|sQ|pc|dQ|pc|d7|pg|| pc|d8|pc|c2|pc|s3|pc|h2|pg|| pc|d9|pc|c4|nt|bagman: There's no legitimate squeeze but it costs nothing to try|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c7|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|cJ|pc|s5|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cK|pc|h8|pc|c8|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sJ|pc|s7|pc|c6|pg|| pc|s4|pc|hT|nt|bagman: N knew that S has the @CK as E had passed|pg|| pc|s9|pc|cT|pg|| pc|sT|pc|cQ|pc|h6|pc|hJ|pg|| pg||