vg|B EC 2011 Open Teams RR _,4_7,I,1,10,Zaleski,0,Dumbovich,0|
rs|3NE-1,3DE+1,5CN=,5DWx-4,5CE-1,4HN-1,3NS+3,3NS+1,3CS-3,2CS-2,2SE=,2DE=,4SN-1,4SN-1,6HN+1,6HN+1,,4HE=,3CS+3,3NN+4|
pn|Giubilo,Dumbovich,Zaleski,Dombi,Kotanyi,Versace,Gulyas,Lauria|pg||
qx|o1|st||md|3SJT8HKQT4D4CT5432,SQ92H9652DA75CQ96,SA7643HAJ7DJ86CK8,SK5H83DKQT932CAJ7|sv|o|nt|MolvaM: hello :)|pg||
mb|1S|mb|2D|nt|roswolf: hi Murat|pg||
mb|2S|nt|MolvaM: this is the 4th match in the open series|pg||
nt|MolvaM: hi geoffrey :)|pg||
mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3N|nt|roswolf: i expect aggressive bidding from e/w|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|roswolf: and we have it already i think 3nt by east is far too aggressive|pg||
nt|MolvaM: after 7 rounds, we shall have 7 rounds of swiss. then the knock-outs will start with 32 teams|pg||
pc|hK|nt|roswolf: however n/s need to be careful|pg||
pc|h2|nt|roswolf: this should be a quick -1|pg||
nt|MolvaM: king is a strong lead against 3NT|pg||
nt|MolvaM: they shouldnt go wrong here|pg||
nt|jr7: hi all|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h3|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h8|pc|h4|nt|MolvaM: hi jorgen|pg||
pc|h5|pg||
pc|h7|pc|s5|pc|hT|pc|h6|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h9|nt|jr7: hi|pg||
nt|MolvaM: closed room was more conservative|pg||
nt|roswolf: i would have cashed the @SA first|pg||
pc|d8|pc|c7|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|sK|pg||
nt|roswolf: np however|pg||
mc|8|nt|MolvaM: @sQ was wasted. dombi would appreciate a @h honor instead|pg||
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qx|c1|st||md|3SJT8HKQT4D4CT5432,SQ92H9652DA75CQ96,SA7643HAJ7DJ86CK8,SK5H83DKQT932CAJ7|sv|o|nt|peachy: team names are not right, but I guess we'll get there|pg||
mb|1S|nt|granguru:  HI|pg||
mb|2D|mb|2S|nt|pelu: hi|pg||
mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sJ|pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|sK|pg||
nt|paulg:  Results for the first match in the round-robin can be seen at http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/orrleaderb.html|pg||
nt|chmitty: Hi all|pg||
nt|peachy: Hi all, welcome back, This is Round 4 in the roundropbins, Open Teams. 15 groups of 8 teams each.|pg||
nt|peachy: 10 boards per match|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s8|nt|peachy: Current standings in each group after round 3: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/orrleaderb.html|pg||
nt|chmitty: Zaleski currently leading his group|pg||
nt|peachy: Running scores in Round 4 (this round) http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/orrrunda4.html|pg||
pc|s9|pc|sA|pg||
nt|granguru:  finally we got to a std 3NT|pg||
nt|pelu: all card well placed = 12 tricks|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h4|pc|h2|pg||
pc|h7|pc|h8|pc|hT|nt|pelu: also 3Nt in OR|pg||
pc|h5|pg||
nt|granguru:  funnily if  opens the hand (1N) there is a good chance to arrive at 6@C|pg||
nt|paulg:  could be worth a couple of imps if it is played by West in the other room|pg||
nt|chmitty: I must say that I never met the pair sitting EW ... not been introduced to Mister West nor Mister East|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|o2|st||md|4SJT43HKQJDJT7CT94,S9652HAT84DKQ93C7,SH965DA2CAKQJ8532,SAKQ87H732D8654C6|sv|n|mb|2S!|mb|p|nt|MolvaM: well thats a good hand to watch|pg||
nt|roswolf: he was guessing/hoping - you need to be gentle with the cards -otherwise they bite you|pg||
nt|roswolf: muilderberg strikes|pg||
mb|4S|nt|roswolf: north will brush this aside|pg||
nt|MolvaM: by 5@c? or an enterprising 6@c?|pg||
nt|roswolf: 5@C is standard!?|pg||
mb|5C|mb|p|nt|jr7: 5 :S is better|pg||
nt|roswolf: dbl is fair too|pg||
nt|jr7: @S|pg||
nt|MolvaM: well 5s is a bit too enterprising for me|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|roswolf: yup conservatism is best on this hand at least|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s5|nt|roswolf: there is no exotic squeeze here so only11 tricks|pg||
pc|c3|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c6|pc|cT|pc|c7|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s2|nt|MolvaM: anyway, to me 5@s would mean pd I have the slam almost in my hand and Im worried abt missing grand|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|s7|pg||
pc|h5|nt|roswolf: sounds reasonable murat|pg||
pc|h7|pc|hJ|pc|h4|pg||
pc|sT|pc|s6|pc|cJ|pc|s8|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h2|pc|hQ|nt|roswolf: the italians got caught in the other room going for -800|pg||
nt|roswolf: 5 imps away|pg||
pc|hA|pg||
pc|h8|pc|h9|pc|h3|pc|hK|pg||
nt|MolvaM: so a triumph for muiderberg?|pg||
mc|11|nt|roswolf: mini- triumph:)|pg||
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qx|c2|st||md|4SJT43HKQJDJT7CT94,S9652HAT84DKQ93C7,SH965DA2CAKQJ8532,SAKQ87H732D8654C6|sv|n|nt|granguru:  not a good slam |pg||
nt|granguru:  another potential slam here|pg||
nt|granguru:  a better one thou|pg||
nt|pelu: only need to play @s-siut with no loser|pg||
nt|granguru:  still it  needs @s 2-2 or stiff honor in E and a good guess|pg||
nt|granguru:  hi all|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|nt|pelu: Hi all - as every time there are problems before the first match - players has to find the right table and so on|pg||
nt|chmitty: 3NT or 5@c both cold here|pg||
nt|chmitty: not an easy bid for North|pg||
nt|chmitty: Can our operator disclose the names of the players sitting EW ??|pg||
nt|chmitty: oh yes :)|pg||
nt|chmitty: ty|pg||
nt|peachy: He might go for the practical 3NT if this were MPs, not so sure IMPs|pg||
mb|5C|nt|pelu: not with odds - but better that a "Roland-slam"|pg||
mb|5D|nt|paulg:  Pleased to see that South has a name, but I think I'll stick with 'South'|pg||
nt|granguru:  exchange black QÂ´s and it would have been a rock iron contract|pg||
mb|p|nt|pelu: we begin with a possible slam|pg||
mb|p|nt|pelu: Rodwell did open the N hand with 1NT???|pg||
nt|chmitty: Difficult for South to imagine he has so many defensive tricks !|pg||
nt|chmitty: Will North x now ?|pg||
nt|chmitty: Hope for him there was not too much of an hesitation behind the screen|pg||
nt|peachy: I think S might have doubled. Vul versus notvul, N had great expectations of making, the colors tell he was not preempting|pg||
nt|chmitty: I agree 100% Raija|pg||
mb|d|nt|peachy: Hi John|pg||
mb|p|nt|granguru:  I would have done it if @CK|pg||
nt|paulg:  i think many in the field will bid this one|pg||
nt|chmitty: he must protect the score of his pair|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|granguru:  NICE TO see u again Raija |pg||
nt|granguru:  11 tricks|pg||
nt|peachy: Convention cards are not available so unfprtunately we cannot explain bidding|pg||
nt|granguru:  at NT or any Moysean|pg||
nt|chmitty: Next door bidding started 2@s (E) 4@s ... NOrth thinking|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h2|nt|pelu: and I would open 1@D 100% (=4+@d)|pg||
nt|paulg:  North has distribution and they have a lot of controls|pg||
nt|granguru:  4@C cue X @Cs|pg||
nt|granguru:  N could have xx to show second round ctrl|pg||
nt|pelu: when N open 1Nt then Meckstroth has no slam ambitions|pg||
nt|pelu: RD = 1. round control|pg||
nt|granguru:  but then it is more complicate to show @d ctrls|pg||
nt|granguru:  RD is second if 4@C was first|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|hA|pg||
nt|pelu: @H-lead - 2x@s and @C finess|pg||
pc|dK|nt|pelu: ok that makes life easyer for dsecl|pg||
pc|dA|nt|granguru:  If I would be forced to guess  1@C strong 1@S=4 ctrls 2N nat 19-21 3@D @C ctrl no @D ctrl|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d7|pg||
nt|paulg:  It is much easier for us, but can South have less than this to make a slam try with no heart control?|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c6|nt|peachy: lots of work in 6NT, not impossible I think, but rather aggressive|pg||
nt|granguru:  a passive lead is a must here|pg||
nt|peachy: I'm thinking E will lead club, that would be my choice|pg||
nt|granguru:  it seems 3@d was nat as N went on to 6@d|pg||
nt|peachy: but I am not in Hurd's class of player so we'll see|pg||
nt|granguru:  most passive is @D|pg||
nt|granguru:  the @D10 is a critical card (not here thou) so W has 4 critical suits|pg||
pc|c9|pc|c7|pg||
pc|h6|nt|granguru:  N S expects that @S dont behave...|pg||
pc|h3|nt|pelu: do u know players where cuebid are 1. control - to day 1. or 2.? back in the 50'es in US they only cuebid Aces - and lost to Italy every time :)|pg||
nt|peachy: that would have been my last choice of leads, Jxx nearly never right|pg||
nt|granguru:  I am wrong E leads|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|granguru:  E has a clear @d lead|pg||
nt|chmitty: Versace will not escape 800 |pg||
pc|h4|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h8|pc|h9|pc|h7|pg||
nt|peachy: perhaps there is something in the bidding that we are not privvy to, which induced the spade lead|pg||
nt|peachy: To watch multiple tables, http://www.bridgebase.com/client/vugraph.php.  Open a new window for each additional table.|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|granguru:  :) true|pg||
nt|granguru:  second choice was @CJ|pg||
nt|granguru:  immo|pg||
pc|s2|nt|granguru:  MADE|pg||
pc|d2|pc|s7|pg||
nt|chmitty: 5@c final contract open room|pg||
nt|peachy: or browser screen, whatever you call it :)|pg||
mc|7|nt|chmitty: Here it's a "fenêtre" lol|pg||
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qx|o3|st||md|1SA864HAT432DJCJT7,SKT75H765DQT8742C,SJ3HKQJ8DA965C854,SQ92H9DK3CAKQ9632|sv|e|nt|roswolf: might have some fun here|pg||
nt|MolvaM: 7 card suits and voids around. always good vugraf material|pg||
nt|roswolf: absolutely:)|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1H|nt|roswolf: how inventive is east going to be!?|pg||
mb|d!|nt|MolvaM: up to 4@c available for ew|pg||
nt|roswolf: i think the double borders on the crazy|pg||
nt|MolvaM: and 3@h for NS|pg||
nt|roswolf: it is only a 5 count oppaosite a @C hand|pg||
nt|roswolf: i assume it is not a strong @C btw|pg||
nt|MolvaM: but whats the alternative?|pg||
mb|3H!|nt|roswolf: pass!?|pg||
nt|MolvaM: hard to pass with dumbovich hand|pg||
mb|d!|mb|p|nt|MolvaM: six-four bid some more  :)|pg||
nt|roswolf: the bidding will come round to you again|pg||
mb|4D|nt|roswolf: i axe most of the time - that phiosophy is poor unlee there are hcp to back it up|pg||
nt|MolvaM: dombi's double shows what? supportX?|pg||
nt|roswolf: magical mystery tour as most hungarian auctions are|pg||
mb|p|nt|roswolf: a juicy penalty may come n/s way now|pg||
mb|5C|mb|p|mb|p|nt|jr7: not good Ø/V |pg||
nt|MolvaM: 4c previous round would have ended it probably|pg||
mb|p|nt|roswolf: well 5@C will drift down - e/w were just too busy|pg||
nt|MolvaM: 2 down if they can find their @d ruff|pg||
nt|MolvaM: to get 6 imps|pg||
pc|hA|nt|jr7: I dont like Dbl from Dombi - 4@C must be the bid|pg||
pc|h5|nt|roswolf: but i agree 4@C might well be passed out|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h9|pg||
nt|roswolf: agree jorgen|pg||
nt|MolvaM: does @hK send the @dA message?|pg||
nt|roswolf: it would for me|pg||
nt|MolvaM: or @sQ? to ask pd to underlead?|pg||
nt|MolvaM: to make declarer guess?|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h7|pc|hJ|pc|c2|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|d2|pc|c4|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cT|nt|MolvaM: escapes for -1|pg||
pc|h6|pc|c5|pg||
nt|roswolf: not the best will be -1|pg||
nt|MolvaM: north figures to hold 4 hearts|pg||
nt|roswolf: still 4 imps is not to be sniffed at|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|cJ|pc|s5|pc|c8|pg||
pc|dK|pc|dJ|pc|d4|nt|MolvaM: I would suggest contributing the @hQ|pg||
nt|MolvaM: that could stop the @h continuation perhaps?|pg||
nt|roswolf: good suggestion|pg||
nt|MolvaM: in the meantime he still must find the jack|pg||
nt|MolvaM: of @s|pg||
pc|dA|pg||
pc|s3|mc|10|nt|MolvaM: ok|pg||
nt|roswolf: np for the spade defence will cash|pg||
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qx|c3|st||md|1SA864HAT432DJCJT7,SKT75H765DQT8742C,SJ3HKQJ8DA965C854,SQ92H9DK3CAKQ9632|sv|e|nt|rcerreto:  here we are again|pg||
nt|brolucius: Jeffrey Allerton and Frances Hinden (who is playing at the other table) are a couple, and have won the prestigious Gold Cup (Britain's top knock-out) together.|pg||
nt|brolucius: So far as I know, Hinden has never played women's bridge. She is a top executive for an oil company.|pg||
nt|ralfwil: what do we know about their systems?|pg||
nt|brolucius: E/W were playing straightforward stuff against Russia. I assume that the French play the standard French system, near enough. It will be good kibitzing.|pg||
nt|granguru:  but it is a good idea that the very first control is A (or KQ)|pg||
nt|pelu: no|pg||
nt|granguru:  not vul sorry only 22!|pg||
nt|peachy: aah, by the end of tha match, maybe I learn some French by osmosis :)|pg||
nt|chmitty: and me some English|pg||
mb|2D|an| |nt|chmitty: :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|chmitty: 2@d both majors ?|pg||
mb|4H|nt|chmitty: seems so|pg||
nt|peachy: Long time ago, we used to call those bids Polish two suiters, nowadays there are several variations and names for them|pg||
nt|peachy: Hungarian kib tells it is 5@h-4@s, or 4414 or 4405, 11-15HCP|pg||
mb|p|nt|granguru:  would like to hear your arguments...I am open minded :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|chmitty: So Lauria will probably reject the option of double ... which could be effective in front of a @s lenght|pg||
mb|p|nt|granguru:  kibz might enjoy an expert view on the matter|pg||
nt|paulg:  I don't think cue bidding first and second round controls equally makes a huge difference to bidding slams, a lot of it still comes down to judgement|pg||
pc|cA|nt|paulg:  i think the italians beat the americans so often because they had practised partnerships and better bidding methods|pg||
nt|granguru:  being an  expensive deparment players try to reduce judgement and increase accuracy|pg||
nt|granguru:  good advice...on all contracts under 6NT|pg||
nt|peachy: There are no convention cards available for us (or anyone) so appreciate kib help in interpreting bids|pg||
pc|c7|pc|d4|nt|granguru:  agree paul|pg||
nt|paulg:  this hand has another debatable point .. how do you break transfers?|pg||
nt|pelu: too difficult to start a cue bid if only A, a cue is an invitation for slam and often u will miss that - and bidding economy also tell u to start with the lovers cue bid|pg||
pc|c8|pg||
nt|brolucius: Since there were so many small boards in the first half, I was hoping that all the spectacular stuff had been saved for the second half. False hopes...|pg||
nt|granguru:  from 6NT on the strategy changes|pg||
pc|cK|nt|Walddk5: Welcome to Murat|pg||
nt|MolvaM: hello everyone :)|pg||
nt|pelu: 5 toptricks for defense, but not easy to take them|pg||
nt|paulg:  i dislike showing a weak doubleton and telling them what to lead|pg||
nt|granguru:  at top level players almost always lead the right card|pg||
pc|cT|pc|s5|nt|granguru:  so it is better to bid accurately|pg||
pc|c5|pg||
nt|brolucius: East has found a strong lead.|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|pelu: now 7 tricks for Tokay|pg||
nt|pelu: prob 3@C dont show about @Cs but only maxz and 3 card support|pg||
nt|paulg:  but i approve of breaking the transfer with only 3-card support, when you are so suitable|pg||
nt|granguru:  once hamman erred a gran slam lead...20 years the hand was appearing in the news|pg||
nt|peachy: running scores Round 3 (this round) http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/orrrunda3.html|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|granguru:  And he used Judgement..with 2 aces he led the shortest one..(wrong)|pg||
pc|s7|pc|c4|pg||
nt|chmitty: Great decision by Lauria : 5@c would be at least 2 off when 4@h is down|pg||
nt|peachy: I did find a fairly recent card for EW http://www.archiviobridge.it/lauria-versace.pdf|pg||
pc|h9|nt|MolvaM: running a long suit usually creates problems for the defence|pg||
nt|peachy: NS basic system is Strong Club|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|hK|pg||
nt|brolucius: Now a club ruff will beat it.|pg||
nt|ralfwil: -1 with best defence. a @c switch now|pg||
nt|rcerreto:  @h9 ?|pg||
nt|rcerreto:  looks to ask for @d|pg||
nt|brolucius: Failing that, a trump misguess by declarer.|pg||
nt|ralfwil: and in that case possibilities to -2|pg||
nt|rcerreto:  E isn't willing to ask for a @c switch, not knowing what partner has in @c I think|pg||
nt|brolucius: South was declarer, after a transfer response to 1@C, at the other table.|pg||
nt|brolucius: We thought, in the match against Russia, that they seemed to be playing reverse suit-preference. So, maybe she has asked for a club.|pg||
nt|ralfwil: But if there is any possibility to defeat, it must be a @c ruff by E. Declarer can have @sKQJ|pg||
nt|pelu: in CR EW missed the defense against 4@S - played by S: @H to K, @D to A Now @CK to A, @S to 8 and Q, @CJ to Q - but not @C again|pg||
pc|s3|nt|pelu: now 9|pg||
pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|sT|pg||
nt|pelu: well played by W - he set up a trap - and N fall in|pg||
nt|MolvaM: and looking happily for the 10th|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sK|pc|sJ|pc|s9|pg||
nt|granguru:  looks that there is no way to win...no entry to dummy|pg||
nt|granguru:  @DK ?|pg||
nt|peachy: There are 15 groups of 8 teams each, the top three (I think) will advance to the Swiss, from where top teams advance to KO etc|pg||
nt|peachy: This isnt quite making, I think|pg||
mc|9|nt|granguru:  what about small @d ?|pg||
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qx|o4|st||md|2S854HK9DAKT94CAJ5,SAJHAJ862D8753CT2,SK76HT75DQCKQ8743,SQT932HQ43DJ62C96|sv|b|nt|MolvaM: 4@c would have been more interesting to watch|pg||
nt|roswolf: nice contract in the other room|pg||
nt|MolvaM: yes. they right sided it|pg||
mb|p|nt|roswolf: rightsided nicely|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N!|mb|p|nt|roswolf: 3nt looks obvious|pg||
mb|2S!|nt|roswolf: ah science|pg||
mb|d|nt|MolvaM: well when you have a stiff here and 3 small there...  :)|pg||
nt|roswolf: silly double he cant even stand a lead|pg||
mb|2N|mb|p|nt|MolvaM: 2nt is super accept for clubs I guess?|pg||
nt|roswolf: 2nt showing a positive trump fit|pg||
mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|jr7: Thats the way to kill 3 nt @SJ to @S D :)|pg||
nt|MolvaM: if I bid like this I lose the first 10 tricks|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h5|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg||
nt|roswolf: if it happens then it is a candidate for the best defended hand of the year|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|dQ|pc|d2|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c6|pc|cA|pc|c2|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|s6|pc|d6|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d7|pc|h7|pc|dJ|pg||
nt|MolvaM: just needs the doubler to hold the spade ace :)|pg||
pc|dT|pc|d8|pc|s7|pc|c9|pg||
pc|d9|pc|cT|pc|hT|pc|h3|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|h2|pc|c4|pc|h4|pg||
pc|c5|mc|12|pg||
qx|c4|st||md|2S854HK9DAKT94CAJ5,SAJHAJ862D8753CT2,SK76HT75DQCKQ8743,SQT932HQ43DJ62C96|sv|b|nt|paulg:  it was very tricky and I'm not sure he ever saw a line to make it. As I was struggling seeing all the hands, I'm not surprised really.|pg||
nt|granguru:  garozzo had another saying..when you have a singleton, lead it...|pg||
nt|granguru:  obviously at suit contracts|pg||
nt|peachy: It is one of his famous "Rules"|pg||
nt|granguru:  in general, it made life easier for the defense...if you didnt lead a singleton..you didnt have it...|pg||
nt|peachy: Another one of Garozzo's: "Must have a very good reason for not leading trump"|pg||
mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|nt|rcerreto:  openings are getting lighter and lighter, these days|pg||
nt|paulg:  his line did have a lot of play|pg||
mb|2D|nt|granguru:  well if @H behave he could have made it..but that would have mean @S were also 1-1 and the line should have been different|pg||
mb|p|mb|3C|nt|pelu: top-players dont like the @d-suit :)|pg||
nt|chmitty: 2@d must be relay for clarification, and 3@c shows no major probably|pg||
nt|chmitty: Will south bid 3NT with 3 small spades ?|pg||
mb|p|nt|peachy: 2C prob Precision style, 5-6 clubs with possible 4-card major|pg||
mb|3N|nt|rcerreto:  tough lead|pg||
nt|rcerreto:  nothing appeals, @d looks normal|pg||
nt|MolvaM: I know about 3700 people who would bid 2nt with east hand|pg||
nt|granguru:  as I said at the beginning ..probably @S finesse instead of a @C|pg||
mb|p|nt|pelu: Mahaffey won the first match 17-13 against a team from Romania (with Bocchi-Maddala!?), Aspe lost 10-20 to a strong team from England|pg||
nt|granguru:  panski plays 4@H here|pg||
mb|p|nt|rcerreto:  leading the longest suit is always an option|pg||
mb|p|nt|peachy: good contract|pg||
nt|chmitty: 3@c more precise : no major and only one stopper ... South assumes the stopper is @s :)|pg||
pc|h2|nt|paulg:  Bocchi-Madala are playing for Lavazza in another group, whatever the results page says|pg||
nt|vugraphplb: there is a little misunderstanding after explanation|pg||
pc|hT|pc|hQ|nt|vugraphplb: we have to wait for director decision in board 22|pg||
pc|hK|pg||
nt|rcerreto:  David, would you lead small or an honour?|pg||
nt|chmitty: well bid|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d3|nt|pelu: if 1Nt = 12-14 I know as mynu who would pass - 12-14 + 10 = 22-24 and no spec fit|pg||
nt|Walddk5: Welcome to our second Murat, Anter|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|MolvaM: the results page is here http://www.poznan2011.pl/results but since the event just started there is nothing in so far|pg||
pc|d2|pg||
nt|granguru:  madala's father was the greatest VUGRAPH comentator of all times...a full show|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c6|pc|cJ|nt|granguru:  bridge rama at the time|pg||
pc|c2|pg||
nt|rcerreto:  Ralf?|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d5|nt|dburn: I guess I would lead low - some danger of a blockage if partner has @dJx, for example|pg||
pc|h5|pc|d6|pg||
nt|brolucius: I am in the middle of writing a book that involves computer analysis of opening leads. We have found that leading the top honour is generally right.|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d7|nt|granguru:  .|pg||
nt|granguru:  In board 22 the 3@D bid inhibited Hurd to lead the suit|pg||
nt|granguru:  now claiming, for sure|pg||
pc|h7|pc|dJ|pg||
nt|brolucius: More often than the old text-books suggest.|pg||
pc|cA|pc|cT|nt|ralfwil: an honour, if dummy has a middle @d|pg||
nt|rcerreto:  computer analysis could change several paradigms|pg||
pc|c4|nt|MolvaM: 3nt could be reached on this board in the open room|pg||
nt|paulg:  i'm sure they'll fix the team lineups on the results pages quickly, they have been very efficient|pg||
nt|granguru:  as for garozzo's saying ..it must have been under specific circumstsnces...such as a 7-level suit contract, or 2. a cross-ruff hand type|pg||
pc|c9|pg||
mc|10|nt|chmitty: hummm ... did not see the @d Jack fall on the ace ?|pg||
pg||
qx|o5|st||md|3SAK732HT7DAKQ7C62,SQT85HAKJ6DJ83C74,SJH9543DT52CKT983,S964HQ82D964CAQJ5|sv|n|nt|roswolf: soutyh has seen these guys before!?|pg||
nt|roswolf: they never have their bidding|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|roswolf: ah a delicate hand for once|pg||
mb|1S|mb|p|nt|MolvaM: 2@d seems to be good|pg||
nt|roswolf: i would be tempted to pass as north|pg||
nt|roswolf: 4 hcp + no fit =MISFIT STAY LOW|pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|nt|MolvaM: the more he looks the more he likes his hand|pg||
mb|2C!|mb|p|nt|MolvaM: nice club spots |pg||
nt|roswolf: an illusion|pg||
nt|MolvaM: gazzilli I guess|pg||
nt|jr7: pas :)|pg||
nt|roswolf: north should pass this|pg||
mb|3C|nt|MolvaM: what if gazilli has a monster black 2 suiter?  :)|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|roswolf: this could end up in the 4-2 heart fit on a bad day|pg||
mb|p|nt|roswolf: dont understand 3@C -felo de se imo|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h3|nt|MolvaM: nice lead|pg||
nt|jr7: what card do you play with your partner?|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h7|pg||
nt|roswolf: 2 encouraging|pg||
nt|MolvaM: switch needed now|pg||
nt|jr7: maybee he now think xx|pg||
pc|c4|pc|cT|pc|cJ|nt|roswolf: nice one|pg||
pc|c2|pg||
nt|MolvaM: dumbovich on the right track|pg||
nt|roswolf: card play is the hungarian forte|pg||
nt|jr7: A@C and 4@H and 3D and 1@C|pg||
nt|MolvaM: specs tell me that dumbovich is usually on the right track|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c7|pc|c3|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|hT|pc|h6|pc|h4|pg||
pc|h8|nt|jr7: OK better|pg||
pc|s2|nt|MolvaM: ahh that unblew it  :)|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|MolvaM: that blew a trick|pg||
pc|h5|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h9|pc|d4|pc|d7|pg||
nt|vugraphplE: sorry|pg||
nt|MolvaM: np pawel :) your doing fine|pg||
nt|jr7: and so are the defence|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|sJ|pc|s6|pc|sA|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s5|pc|c8|pc|s4|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c5|pc|s7|pc|d3|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d6|pc|dQ|pc|d8|pg||
mc|6|pg||
qx|c5|st||md|3SAK732HT7DAKQ7C62,SQT85HAKJ6DJ83C74,SJH9543DT52CKT983,S964HQ82D964CAQJ5|sv|n|nt|brolucius: We did not mention that Cronier's 3NT was rather bold. Most would bid 2NT and a (very) few might bid 1NT.|pg||
nt|rcerreto:  true|pg||
nt|rcerreto:  well judged|pg||
nt|ralfwil: but he needed @dJ on dummy|pg||
nt|granguru:  or 3. very low level, doubled contracts|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|chmitty: next anyhow|pg||
mb|1C|nt|pelu: ok NS play transfer over 1@c|pg||
nt|peachy: This is what commentator slang calls "coffee hand". No problems, everyone go refill your drink of choice|pg||
mb|p|nt|rcerreto:  that's why she bid 3 :)|pg||
nt|brolucius: Maybe 2@D?|pg||
mb|1D|nt|ralfwil: how many @s from W? I vote for 3@s|pg||
nt|paulg:  i expect double shows the majors|pg||
nt|pelu: nice play to get 7 tricks in 2@c|pg||
nt|peachy: There certainly are very good reasons not to lead trump, but if one cant find one, then...trump|pg||
nt|granguru:  aaah yes|pg||
mb|p|nt|rcerreto:  a good partner has the J|pg||
mb|1S|nt|rcerreto:  oops, sorry|pg||
nt|rcerreto:  he bid|pg||
nt|ralfwil: anyone with me?|pg||
nt|rcerreto:  with 2@d?|pg||
nt|brolucius: Closer to 3@S than 1@S, perhaps.|pg||
nt|rcerreto:  1@s looks a little timid to me|pg||
nt|pelu: strange take out X by Baldurson|pg||
mb|p|nt|ralfwil: a 6-card suit @hK and a stiff @d|pg||
nt|brolucius: Spade game needs to be bid.|pg||
nt|rcerreto:  good sacrifice in 5@d|pg||
nt|MolvaM: so 1@s probably shows 3 card spades?|pg||
nt|pelu: sorry - prob support x in @H|pg||
mb|2C|nt|brolucius: I don't know that 1@H was right when East had indicated the majors.|pg||
nt|rcerreto:  maybe it was also meant to show real @c|pg||
nt|rcerreto:  unsure though|pg||
nt|ralfwil: 3@h is for me a strong 3@s rise and an invite to 4@s|pg||
nt|MolvaM: and baldurson dbl is kind of a support dbl?|pg||
nt|pelu: ok he was down 2 - but recived a gift|pg||
mb|p|nt|brolucius: Allerton may have misread 3@H but East can correct.|pg||
nt|brolucius: Anyway, this is the sort of board we were looking for, after so much drab stuff.|pg||
nt|rcerreto:  he has a pretty good hand, in context|pg||
nt|ralfwil: but you agree with the strong rise David?|pg||
nt|peachy: Strong 1C, probable 0-7 or some such 1D|pg||
mb|p|nt|granguru:  under this premise I agree fully..the same philosophy of the 6NT lead..dont give tricks away to declarer on the initial lead.|pg||
nt|granguru:  when you have points in all side suits normally declarer has a solid trump suit...|pg||
mb|p|nt|brolucius: Presumably intended as that. Since 1@S shows very little, as I see it, East might also consider 3@S.|pg||
nt|ralfwil: but the best with this bidding is that W has shown his @h honour|pg||
nt|rcerreto:  maybe their standard for free bids is higher than yours and mine|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h3|nt|pelu: Easr didnt read the X from West as @hs|pg||
nt|pelu: saved by S|pg||
nt|murat: good afternoon all :)|pg||
nt|pelu: wellcome now we hace 2 x Murat :)|pg||
pc|h8|nt|brolucius: Although we may quibble with the odd bid or two, it seems that the players have judged it very well around the table. |pg||
nt|rcerreto:  anyway, they succeeded in bidding the par|pg||
nt|brolucius: The term 'free bid' was responsible for a lot of awful bidding many decades ago.|pg||
nt|murat: guess one of the most common names of Turkey :)|pg||
pc|h7|pg||
nt|rcerreto:  in a difficult board|pg||
nt|rcerreto:  yes, indeed|pg||
nt|granguru:  !<s now|pg||
nt|granguru:  @s|pg||
nt|granguru:   s must lose all his losers|pg||
nt|granguru:  no uppercut now if s plays @s correctly|pg||
nt|peachy: 1@s: 16-19HCP, 4+@s, nonforcing|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c3|pc|cJ|pc|c2|pg||
pc|h2|pc|hT|nt|pelu: as Peter in Denmark :)|pg||
nt|granguru:  done|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|rcerreto:  free-bid is something very different today|pg||
pc|h4|pg||
nt|granguru:  -1|pg||
pc|c7|nt|chmitty: will not escape 2off probably|pg||
pc|c8|pc|cQ|pc|c6|pg||
nt|brolucius: I am told that 4@S failed at one table of the other semi. Do four round of clubs and a ruff with the king, leave declarer with some sort of guess?|pg||
nt|granguru:  @C would have best|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|s2|pc|hK|nt|peachy: Good play trick 1, lead smelled like singleton (maybe doubleton) so retaining finessing opetion to clubs toward hand|pg||
pc|h5|pg||
nt|granguru:  now @C is amust|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h9|nt|pelu: we dont have contact to the Open room, but Board 3 _ the 3NT with 5 toptricks out - gave 10 IMPs to Lavazza|pg||
pc|c5|pc|s3|pg||
pc|d6|nt|peachy: EW are able to produce accurate defense for max tricks their side|pg||
mc|7|nt|chmitty: Versace knows that Lauria has a small @c to ruff : if not, he would have cashed the @c Ace :)|pg||
nt|chmitty: 2 off then is the score|pg||
pg||
qx|o6|st||md|4SK8H752D752CAKQ86,SAT62HAQ94DK43CJ3,S743HKJ83DAJTC742,SQJ95HT6DQ986CT95|sv|e|nt|roswolf: expensive|pg||
nt|MolvaM: no flat boards so far but still low scoring I think|pg||
nt|roswolf: another small hand|pg||
mb|p|mb|1C!|mb|d|mb|1H|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|roswolf: and now everyone joins in|pg||
mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|MolvaM: nu suppX?|pg||
nt|MolvaM: for hearts?|pg||
mb|p|pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|c5|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|cJ|pc|c4|pc|c9|pg||
pc|cK|pc|s2|pc|c7|pc|cT|pg||
pc|d3|pc|dT|nt|MolvaM: kotanyi escaped from 1NT doubled open room|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d2|pg||
pc|s9|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s3|pg||
nt|MolvaM: he could have made it|pg||
nt|jr7: why not still?|pg||
nt|MolvaM: a missed opportunity|pg||
nt|MolvaM: I mean the other room|pg||
pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d5|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d8|pc|d7|pc|d4|pg||
nt|MolvaM: 180 was available for NS but they went -90|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s5|pc|s8|pc|sT|pg||
nt|jr7: OK - Zaleski will give him the missing|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s7|pc|sJ|pc|h2|pg||
pc|d9|pc|c6|pc|h4|pc|h3|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h5|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|c6|st||md|4SK8H752D752CAKQ86,SAT62HAQ94DK43CJ3,S743HKJ83DAJTC742,SQJ95HT6DQ986CT95|sv|e|nt|brolucius: Declarer played trump to the ace, I am told.|pg||
nt|rcerreto:  felt unhappy afterward, I presume|pg||
nt|pelu: as expectet (not Murat) also 1 NT in OR in Board 4|pg||
nt|pelu: west lost count|pg||
nt|granguru:  a 21-19 count|pg||
nt|granguru:  very poor fits all over|pg||
nt|granguru:  EW has 3 5-2 ones|pg||
nt|granguru:  NS only @D 4-4|pg||
mb|p|nt|MolvaM: that usually means our vugraf operator will soon close this table and reopen it to establish the link to the other table|pg||
mb|1N|nt|MolvaM: what shld tokay do? dbl?|pg||
nt|chmitty: unless the ace of trumps fell on the floor :)|pg||
nt|peachy: Operator, 2C should have been down two, maybe|pg||
mb|d|mb|p|nt|brolucius: 4@D made against the 300 here, so a big swing to Badger.|pg||
nt|paulg:  i was wondering if South would overcall 1@s, easier to overcall 1NT perhaps|pg||
nt|granguru:  probasbly e could have avoided the mistake overtaking @D and playing @c9|pg||
nt|paulg:  west cannot make a penalty double these days|pg||
mb|p|nt|pelu: again 1Nt with a 5 card @S - |pg||
mb|2C|nt|murat: and now ?|pg||
nt|peachy: 1NT 12-16 1st and 2nd seat|pg||
mb|p|nt|brolucius: North was in 3NT at the other table, doubled and ran to 4@D.|pg||
nt|paulg:  2@h will be hearts and a minor, so North asks|pg||
nt|chmitty: 1NTx was sort of +380 but Soith escapes|pg||
mb|p|nt|murat: not the best lead|pg||
nt|MolvaM: 3d could be makable but tokay wasnt sure about 5 cards @d|pg||
nt|granguru:  NS guessing can win 3@D|pg||
mb|2D|mb|p|nt|rcerreto:  do EW play transfer?|pg||
nt|brolucius: Transfers opposite 1@C are popular.|pg||
nt|granguru:  we will see a good fight here|pg||
nt|granguru:  as 2@S is a difficult contract to win|pg||
mb|p|nt|brolucius: With four aces missing, it seems that the three-level may be high enough.|pg||
nt|pelu: that the problem with 1@D opening - partner dont know if u have 2 or 5 :)|pg||
nt|pelu: some play for 4@s - but US never found the @s-fit|pg||
nt|granguru:  mmm|pg||
nt|granguru:  Does S have nothing clear  to lead?|pg||
mb|p|nt|chmitty: and Lauria does not give up|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|peachy: Not knowing their system, North's Pass might have included better hands, and wek hands run immediately via Rdbl, that is one way of playing|pg||
pc|c3|nt|brolucius: Obviously East had read West for a much better hand than he holds.|pg||
pc|c4|nt|ralfwil: and I can´t see why...|pg||
pc|c5|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cJ|nt|brolucius: Such a shame to lose IMPs unnecessarily when there are so many other ways of losing IMPs.|pg||
nt|rcerreto:  could W consider his hand balanced?|pg||
nt|rcerreto:  then open 1NT (or rebidding, if 1NT is weak)?|pg||
nt|brolucius: 3@C was presumably non-forcing, so it is hard to see how East had enough to look for an 11-trick game.|pg||
nt|granguru:  well he treated the  hand as a croos ruffing type|pg||
nt|granguru:  and protected potential @d tricks|pg||
nt|peachy: Protected diamond tricks I think|pg||
pc|c2|nt|ralfwil: If 1@s is´nt spades, 1nt from W looks normal for me |pg||
nt|murat: 9 tricks i guess|pg||
pc|c9|pg||
pc|sK|pc|sA|nt|granguru:  now he is not so sure anymore....|pg||
nt|chmitty: yep ... may be here they are in some "hole" of their system|pg||
pc|s7|nt|peachy: Although, 2D foes not necessarily promise 4+ diamonds|pg||
pc|s5|pg||
nt|peachy: In my opinion, the range 12-16 is susceptible to trouble at some point|pg||
nt|peachy: kib says my suggeswted method is common in Hungary, but we still dont know if NS play that way|pg||
pc|d3|pc|dJ|nt|granguru:  as we see, he changed his mind but fortunatelly N had a @S left|pg||
nt|peachy: if EW play 2/1 (which I do not know if they do)|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d5|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c8|pc|d4|nt|MolvaM: I was asked twice the question "what are these people doing here" :)  probably looking at the strane flag combinations|pg||
nt|MolvaM: this is the European Opan Championship|pg||
nt|MolvaM: Open|pg||
nt|granguru:  excelent defense after all|pg||
pc|c7|pg||
pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d6|nt|pelu: very nice defense|pg||
pc|d2|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sJ|nt|granguru:  declarer can lose 4 more tricks now|pg||
nt|granguru:  for down THREE|pg||
pc|s8|nt|granguru:  panski wished he would have been in dummy now|pg||
pc|s2|pg||
nt|chmitty: As usual, Lauria "manipulates" his cards for his best benefit and will claim 8 tricks|pg||
pc|d9|pc|d7|pc|h4|nt|brolucius: Going two down may make it seem a bit less of a disappointment.|pg||
pc|dT|pg||
nt|granguru:  @Sq is a killer|pg||
pc|s3|pc|sQ|nt|peachy: right, play trump and get those kiddies off the street, rest easy|pg||
pc|c6|nt|granguru:  was not bad |pg||
nt|granguru:  so it was a discard after all|pg||
pc|s6|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h2|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg||
nt|peachy: Back to down 1, S will be endplayed in S|pg||
pc|h3|pc|hT|pc|h5|pc|h9|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|o7|st||md|1SJ82HAK9DT42C9876,S53HQ86DQ9653CAQ3,SAKQT976HT4DK87C4,S4HJ7532DAJCKJT52|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|nt|MolvaM: why not just open 4s?|pg||
mb|4S|mb|p|nt|roswolf: caution|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|MolvaM: opening 1s risks opps finding their save|pg||
pc|h2|nt|roswolf: i doubt he will make this|pg||
nt|jr7: A@H and 6 x @S and look?|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|h4|pg||
pc|c8|pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|c5|pg||
nt|MolvaM: well soon defence will count 9 tricks for declarer|pg||
nt|MolvaM: then defence will be automatic|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d7|pc|dJ|pc|d2|pg||
nt|roswolf: hmm now it may be divined|pg||
nt|MolvaM: can zaleski exit with low @d?|pg||
nt|roswolf: since west wont underlead the ace in that situation|pg||
nt|roswolf: therefore must play for Ax|pg||
nt|roswolf: he will play 6 spades now|pg||
pc|h3|pc|hK|pc|h8|pc|hT|pg||
nt|roswolf: not now:)|pg||
nt|MolvaM: well to find stiff ace is his only chance anyway|pg||
nt|roswolf: indeed|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c3|pc|sQ|pc|c2|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s4|pc|sJ|pc|s3|pg||
pc|c7|pc|cQ|pc|sK|pc|cK|pg||
pc|s7|pc|cJ|pc|s8|pc|s5|pg||
nt|jr7: and ...|pg||
pc|d4|nt|MolvaM: but stiff @dQ also helps|pg||
pc|d5|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h9|pc|hQ|nt|MolvaM: ahhh|pg||
pc|s9|pg||
nt|roswolf: no he lost the plot|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|c7|st||md|1SJ82HAK9DT42C9876,S53HQ86DQ9653CAQ3,SAKQT976HT4DK87C4,S4HJ7532DAJCKJT52|sv|b|nt|ralfwil: a wise man told me once - don´t take gifts, so @dK should be played to follow his advise|pg||
nt|brolucius: FIFA do not follow that advice.|pg||
nt|MolvaM: so there is no restriction in countries and anybody can play with anybody from any country|pg||
nt|MolvaM: totally open event|pg||
nt|MolvaM: and even though its a European event, its open to people from other continents|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|nt|granguru:  S should have played a @H at trick 4 in tha last hand|pg||
nt|peachy: Nort upgraded this to Strong 16+ 1C|pg||
mb|1H|nt|chmitty: we can imagine NS will reach 4@s|pg||
mb|1N|nt|peachy: I qm surprised at 1C|pg||
mb|2H|nt|paulg:  3@h is the probably the value bid for Mahaffey, but many just put 4@h on the table and make it the opponents' problem|pg||
nt|pelu: East for sure dont like his hand after 2@D overcall|pg||
nt|chmitty: Many will open 4@s in this position|pg||
mb|4S|mb|p|nt|paulg:  South will pass, probably needs a fourth spade to double|pg||
mb|p|nt|brolucius: Some might play a weak-strong 2NT on the East cards, to differentiate between strong and distributional 3@D hands.|pg||
nt|pelu: what a lead - but he will have a new chance later|pg||
mb|p|nt|rcerreto:  no way to play trumps from N|pg||
nt|rcerreto:  then it should make|pg||
nt|murat: anybody dbl with east hand ?|pg||
nt|peachy: Molenaar must have at least thought of balancing|pg||
nt|granguru:  leslie amoils is a canadian player...wonder why she has the USA flag here|pg||
pc|h2|nt|rcerreto:  even misguessing @d|pg||
nt|MolvaM: not me|pg||
nt|murat: i mean after 4@h|pg||
nt|pelu: no|pg||
nt|paulg:  standard Polish lead, second highest from three|pg||
nt|granguru:  @SQ9 big helpers|pg||
nt|chmitty: let's see if declarer finds the way to 10 tricks|pg||
nt|chmitty: a @c at trick 2 would reveal most of the layout|pg||
nt|chmitty: North can see that East does not hold AK or KDJ @c|pg||
nt|chmitty: and not QJ@h either|pg||
pc|h9|nt|peachy: Plenty to think about before playing trick 1|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|rcerreto:  oops|pg||
nt|rcerreto:  they found the way|pg||
nt|Walddk3: Both losing semifinalists are awarded bronze medals. There is no playoff for third place (a good decision in my view)|pg||
nt|brolucius: East hoping for a heart ruff.|pg||
nt|rcerreto:  yes, 3rd-4th place finals are dull|pg||
nt|brolucius: But neither team has a bronze medal in their sights at this moment.|pg||
nt|rcerreto:  winning A and playing a @h back would have forced S to play trumps but...|pg||
pc|h4|pg||
nt|rcerreto:  this way has a chance to discard a @h on @s|pg||
nt|pelu: why sh he X?|pg||
pc|c3|nt|rcerreto:  a very good chance now|pg||
pc|c4|pc|cT|pc|c6|pg||
nt|MolvaM: looks like 4 losers but declarer will still look for an endplay to get rid of the@s loser|pg||
nt|murat: for a save or for some money|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c7|pc|cA|nt|pelu: score now 13-1 for Lavazza|pg||
nt|chmitty: is this the actual play ????|pg||
nt|peachy: Declarer does not know that DA drops doubleton, he took a chance that E lead from QJxxx|pg||
pc|s9|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s2|nt|granguru:  Leslie should be Les Amoils, male, lived in South Africa before coming to Canada|pg||
pc|s3|pg||
pc|s6|pc|h3|nt|pelu: @s4 sh ask for @c|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s5|pg||
pc|c8|pc|cQ|nt|granguru:  probably with USA flag because Kamil's team is register as such|pg||
pc|sT|nt|brolucius: 2NT was just made on the deal where E/W went two down in 4@C, so 8 IMPs to Zimmermann.|pg||
nt|pelu: that a DD analyse|pg||
pc|cJ|pg||
pc|hT|nt|pelu: if u X for 1 down odds are against u: 3 / 5 IMP|pg||
nt|murat: right|pg||
nt|pelu: vuln and 2 / 5 non vuln|pg||
nt|MolvaM: baldursson has too many high cards and has to defend carefully to avoid being thrown in|pg||
nt|murat: he should win with the king now|pg||
nt|chmitty: I think he is wrong : Versace would not easily raise to 2@h with xxx cards|pg||
pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|h6|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h8|nt|murat: or else he'll be endplayed|pg||
pc|d7|pc|h7|pg||
nt|peachy: That I  am not so sure about|pg||
nt|chmitty: and on top of that there is no reason for East to underlead QJ@h at trick 1|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|o8|st||md|2SA97654HKT6DATCK3,SKT2H87DQJ52CT987,SJHAQJ9432D86CAQ6,SQ83H5DK9743CJ542|sv|o|nt|roswolf: i think he should have got that right -because of the early diamond switch|pg||
mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|nt|jr7: go - go :)|pg||
nt|roswolf: well bidding this slam should be routine|pg||
mb|1S|mb|p|nt|MolvaM: super grand|pg||
nt|MolvaM: but can it be reached?|pg||
nt|roswolf: i think the grand is not in the picture -i would love to be proved wrong:)|pg||
mb|3H|mb|p|nt|jr7: a cue in @C and 3 Asses|pg||
nt|MolvaM: 3h?|pg||
mb|4C|nt|MolvaM: forcing I hope?|pg||
nt|roswolf: forcing|pg||
mb|p|nt|roswolf: after RKcb reveals all the missing controls it will be hard to be certain of where the 13th trick will come from|pg||
nt|roswolf: if south has @C Kxx for instance|pg||
nt|jr7: then hope for 5 @S|pg||
mb|5C|mb|p|nt|MolvaM: hmm this looks like they lost their way|pg||
mb|5D|mb|p|nt|roswolf: for the grand maybe|pg||
nt|MolvaM: to bid a grand now would be a complete gamble|pg||
nt|jr7: I had bid 4 @S - 1H must be trumf after 4@C|pg||
nt|roswolf: 5nt can you bid the grand?|pg||
nt|roswolf: for me @H are agreed as trumps|pg||
nt|MolvaM: even 4H would have been better than the 3H that zaleski chose|pg||
nt|MolvaM: then giu could have rkcb'ed|pg||
mb|6C|nt|MolvaM: I think he will just bid 6 and close the files|pg||
mb|p|mb|6H|nt|MolvaM: or...|pg||
mb|p|nt|roswolf: hmm could be a master bid|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|roswolf: finis|pg||
nt|roswolf: well another push|pg||
nt|MolvaM: well 3h told one story and then the 5c and the 6c bids another story|pg||
pc|d9|pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d6|pg||
nt|roswolf: but different books i fancy|pg||
nt|MolvaM: :)|pg||
nt|MolvaM: a namyats bid could have been useful here maybe|pg||
nt|roswolf: on 5 in the other room e/w went-2 not -1 which explains the score correction|pg||
nt|MolvaM: although north hand is a bit short for it|pg||
nt|roswolf: a lot short|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h7|nt|MolvaM: well Im optimistic :)|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h5|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h8|pc|hA|pc|c2|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|c7|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c8|pc|cQ|nt|roswolf: claim next|pg||
pc|c5|pg||
pc|cA|pc|cJ|pc|dT|pc|c9|pg||
pc|d8|pc|d3|pc|hT|pc|d5|pg||
mc|13|nt|MolvaM: gulyas in the other room also seems to have underbid|pg||
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qx|c8|st||md|2SA97654HKT6DATCK3,SKT2H87DQJ52CT987,SJHAQJ9432D86CAQ6,SQ83H5DK9743CJ542|sv|o|nt|rcerreto:  anyway, she guessed @d right|pg||
nt|brolucius: All plus scores gratefully received.|pg||
nt|rcerreto:  it was just a matter of overtricks then|pg||
nt|Walddk3: Can you stand another nail-biter, David?|pg||
nt|brolucius: Yes, I have taken my pills.|pg||
nt|pelu: sorru on East|pg||
nt|granguru:  panski is trying to cash all defensive tricks bfore it is too late|pg||
nt|chmitty: a nice "challenge the champs" deal here|pg||
nt|chmitty: 7@h = 20/20|pg||
mb|p|nt|peachy: Kamil's team is listed as transnational, not USA, in the event|pg||
mb|1C|nt|granguru:  S multi 2@D|pg||
nt|paulg:  good result for Meckwell in the other room (probably not the last time we'll say that in this championship)|pg||
mb|p|nt|paulg:  I've noticed many pairs treat the Multi 2@d as weak with spades when it comes to their 2nd seat defence|pg||
nt|pelu: and 5@H close to make on a small @S-lead |pg||
nt|paulg:  it's rare to see that in the UK, but would work here|pg||
nt|paulg:  3@h from North?|pg||
mb|1S|nt|Walddk3: No credit for my hy-phen?|pg||
nt|pelu: for D = balanced 12-15 or any 16+|pg||
nt|pelu: for me|pg||
nt|granguru:  Amoil played for SA in the world teams in bermuda 2000 |pg||
nt|peachy: really light third-seater here|pg||
nt|vugraphplb: i thought that he is from Usa becouse he doesn't exist in EBL base|pg||
mb|p|nt|paulg:  that is the norm in the UK too|pg||
mb|2H|nt|paulg:  4@d will be 'bid your major' (4@c would have been transfer to your major)|pg||
nt|granguru:  yes many play 2@D x= short in @S |pg||
mb|p|nt|pelu: wd by West|pg||
nt|granguru:  and 2@d - 2@h 5+ @H|pg||
nt|paulg:  this is similar to the situation in the Open Room, where West doubled|pg||
nt|pelu: forcing pass in N?|pg||
mb|3H|nt|brolucius: Be careful because jtr is watching.|pg||
nt|granguru:  now a correct flag in W ...thanks Michal|pg||
nt|peachy: and another 16+ 1C here, maybe they have additional agreements on what constitutes a 1C opening that we do not know about |pg||
mb|p|nt|ralfwil: ??? dbl from me as E|pg||
nt|paulg:  surely not a forcing pass situation|pg||
mb|4H|nt|pelu: but East help him, in on @CK he played @D - ruff, @C to A @S to 10 and duck - and now endplayed - East sh play @C back and no endplay|pg||
mb|p|nt|rcerreto:  a cheap save on 4@h|pg||
nt|brolucius: 4@S has escaped a double, but the cards lie well for declarer so the lack of a double will not cost E/W much.|pg||
nt|granguru:  In the meanwhile NS surpassed the safet level of 5@C|pg||
nt|granguru:  is 6@C makeable?|pg||
nt|granguru:  after A GAROZZO's lead|pg||
nt|peachy: on the surface, looks like just lose a spade, whether the tricks are there is another matter|pg||
nt|peachy: Kib who knows NS style says they love to surprise opps with frequent tactical bids|pg||
mb|4S|an| |mb|p|nt|ralfwil: but still a dbl....|pg||
nt|granguru:  2 discards on reds|pg||
nt|chmitty: as long as they do not surprise themselves that's fine :)|pg||
mb|5H|nt|pelu: why not - u have bid game Red against green |pg||
mb|p|nt|pelu: its for me a good standard rule|pg||
nt|chmitty: Full brakes on, from North's standpoint|pg||
nt|chmitty: South has a lot ... can he give up ?|pg||
nt|peachy: 6 controls opposite strong club, he just cant pass|pg||
mb|5S|an| |mb|p|nt|brolucius: Had the cards lain differently, not doubling might have waved goodbye to 500 or so.|pg||
nt|brolucius: East may have feared a third-hand opener, but her side was vulnerable.|pg||
nt|ralfwil: a thirs hand opening, but I can take 170 extra if declarer makes|pg||
nt|brolucius: West does not know that partner holds 10 points, so he cannot double 4@S even with an extra value or so. |pg||
nt|ralfwil: but shouldn´t E?|pg||
nt|pelu: now N can make 1NT - topplay @Hs and only 6 tricks for EW|pg||
nt|granguru:  3 discards on reds sorry|pg||
nt|granguru:  one @S given up|pg||
mb|5N|an| |mb|p|nt|Walddk3: The contract is doubled at both tables in the other match|pg||
nt|granguru:  so just one ruff needed|pg||
nt|peachy: It is also possible that 4S was RKC|pg||
mb|6H|mb|p|nt|brolucius: Quite right.|pg||
nt|chmitty: May be 4@s was kind of blackwood|pg||
mb|p|nt|peachy: it does make|pg||
nt|granguru:  not even garozzo beats 6@c here|pg||
mb|p|nt|peachy: WD White House team|pg||
nt|peachy: It would be nice if in a competition of this level, there were convention cards available|pg||
nt|chmitty: true :(|pg||
nt|chmitty: True also that there are many pairs in competition : huge job|pg||
nt|peachy: It makes kibitzing so much nicer, to know what the auction means|pg||
pc|d3|nt|chmitty: a suggestion could be that the players had to fill themselves an "electronic convention card" before the championship|pg||
pc|dA|nt|chmitty: that will come soon, I'm sure|pg||
pc|d2|nt|murat: he should played the Ace @h|pg||
pc|d6|pg||
pc|hK|nt|paulg:  it is a good standard rule for me too, but not when one hand has pre-empted|pg||
pc|h7|nt|brolucius: Now East may grab @CA.|pg||
nt|dburn: chances are that since East didn't double here South might get the clubs wrong|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h5|pg||
mc|13|pg||
qx|c9|st||md|3SK53HKT65DKJ7CK54,SQJT82HA4DA63CA73,S976H7DT9854CT982,SA4HQJ9832DQ2CQJ6|sv|e|nt|ralfwil: but perhaps only 2 imps|pg||
nt|rcerreto:  should she risk -420 to get 100 instead of 50?|pg||
nt|dburn: risk? what risk?|pg||
nt|brolucius: Better to risk a double in the first place.|pg||
nt|Walddk3: An excellent 6@D now|pg||
nt|dburn: declarer could have the singleton king of clubs only if she had about ten cards rather than thirteen|pg||
nt|rcerreto:  can declarer have one more @d one less @c?|pg||
nt|ralfwil: 6@d on NS - a nice contract|pg||
nt|rcerreto:  N was declarer, I think|pg||
nt|Walddk3: In theory, there is a club ruff, but fortunately for declarer, the defender with the singleton club also has @DA|pg||
nt|brolucius: An interesting bidding test. If they bid it, I will applaud.|pg||
nt|brolucius: 6@C is more tricky and that might be reached.|pg||
nt|Walddk3: They may arrive in 6@C, though|pg||
nt|Walddk3: With problems on a spade lead|pg||
nt|brolucius: Yes.|pg||
nt|ralfwil: can they make 1C after a @c lead? I doubt|pg||
nt|brolucius: This is the sort of board we were hoping for. No-one wants these matches to be decided on small margins after some drab boards.|pg||
nt|ralfwil: sry @s lead|pg||
nt|ralfwil: 6@c after a @s lead....|pg||
nt|peachy: In "real" championships, I think that is how it is done, these championships are open to anybody who wants enter from anywhere in the world, no qualification required|pg||
mb|p|mb|1H|nt|brolucius: If one side wins after doing better on the big boards, then good luck to them - (even if they are not from England)|pg||
nt|murat: that was unexpected|pg||
nt|MolvaM: the contract went both ways during play and finally declarer came out as the winner|pg||
nt|paulg:  Seeing your partner pass when you have a balanced zero count is never good|pg||
mb|p|mb|1S|nt|pelu: 34 HCP - I exp slam with most tables|pg||
nt|paulg:  1@s now from South?|pg||
nt|peachy: And teams can have members from any country = all transnational|pg||
mb|p|mb|2H|nt|ralfwil: If declarer plays @d before havinc cleaned trumps, another @s will set up a trumph trick|pg||
mb|p|nt|brolucius: D'Ovidio has started well by emphasizing the diamonds before supporting clubs.|pg||
nt|granguru:  NS has a score sheet we all like to bring to the comparison table...all NS scores|pg||
mb|2N|nt|Walddk3: 6@C in the closed room|pg||
nt|Walddk3: Waiting for the lead|pg||
nt|Walddk3: @SQ|pg||
nt|chmitty: 2NT forcing asking for clarifications|pg||
mb|p|nt|pelu: but not so easy to bid the Grand|pg||
nt|granguru:  7@D should be|pg||
mb|3N|nt|brolucius: Ouch!|pg||
nt|murat: would you also prefer 2@s ?|pg||
mb|p|nt|brolucius: Imagine winning the board with 3NT.|pg||
nt|brolucius: A spade lead would not beat 3NT if clubs were 3-2.|pg||
nt|brolucius: not beat 6@C, I mean|pg||
mb|4H|nt|ralfwil: true!|pg||
nt|paulg:  tougher when you have not shown your 5-card support for partner|pg||
mb|p|nt|pelu: roller-coaster :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|MolvaM: this is interesting|pg||
nt|murat: Tokay should work some |pg||
nt|MolvaM: has to keep south out|pg||
mb|p|nt|granguru:  Even if that doesnt mean anything, usually it is a good sign...|pg||
nt|chmitty: Lauria could hold : Kx KQ10xxx x Kxxx whixh would produce an excellent slam|pg||
pc|s3|nt|peachy: Declarer does not know how hearts sit so he might duck one, but as it is, does not matter|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s7|nt|pelu: would u X in West or bid 2Nt?|pg||
nt|paulg:  i would have started with 2@d (inverted) personally, even if showing your 4-card major first seems to be growing in popularity|pg||
pc|s4|pg||
nt|peachy: running scores http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/orrrunda4.html|pg||
nt|rcerreto: la fai o non la fai la cue di x nel colore del compagno?|pg||
nt|rcerreto: sorry|pg||
nt|chmitty: :)|pg||
nt|peachy: Once all matches a completed, standings in each group will be here http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/orrleaderb.html|pg||
nt|chmitty: Lauria considering his options in case @h are 4-1|pg||
nt|peachy: there are 15 groups of 8 teams each|pg||
nt|chmitty: only danger to consider|pg||
nt|chmitty: ha can : a) play Ace @h and @h or b) play small @h to retain an extra entry in dummy or c) unblock @s ace and run Q @h|pg||
pc|hA|nt|pelu: but then u would mis a 4-4 fit in @H - pd could be 4-4-3-2|pg||
pc|h7|nt|murat: dbl i guess|pg||
nt|pelu: for 100% 2NT|pg||
nt|MolvaM: I would bid 2nt|pg||
nt|pelu: 2NT = 16-19, D + 2Nt = 20+|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h5|pg||
pc|h4|pc|s6|nt|MolvaM: whenever I double, lefty bids 4@h and pd bids 4@s with 4 cards|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|chmitty: he has choosen option a) :)|pg||
nt|chmitty: and we can see he is still Ok because South is endplayed|pg||
pc|h6|pg||
nt|murat: i prefer 2NT with 15-17 |pg||
nt|murat: bad 18|pg||
pc|sA|nt|peachy: Doubledummy = seeing all four hands, ducking is wrong. Not seeing all four hands, it is a normal play|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|s9|pg||
nt|pelu: many play that 1@D - 2@D = no 4 card major|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c4|nt|brolucius: So, 20+ IMPs swing due to a 4-1 break. Well, that's part of the game. Hard to take, though.|pg||
nt|murat: he was afraid of Q@c |pg||
pc|cA|nt|pelu: @cQ and @S back and Tokay will regret that he used his only entry to dummy|pg||
nt|MolvaM: kibs are shocked... to play clubs from hand is purely double dummy. he cant do that|pg||
nt|pelu: but against storng defense his plan sh fail|pg||
nt|MolvaM: he can hope that @cA is with north but very hard to play for both honors to be there|pg||
nt|pelu: if S has showed distrbution in the black suits - and easy defense for N|pg||
nt|MolvaM: well some days even 2 club tricks could be enough|pg||
nt|MolvaM: he could catch the @dQ|pg||
nt|murat: he's hopeless now|pg||
nt|MolvaM: so to play for @cQx inside is not a terrible play|pg||
nt|pelu: now running score in Women and Senior : http://www.poznan2011.pl/results|pg||
pc|c2|pg||
pc|s8|pc|dT|nt|peachy: http://www.eurobridge.org/competitions/11Poznan/Poznan.htm  tourney website (bulletins, regulations etc.) |pg||
pc|h3|pc|sK|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|cK|nt|murat: he's at home again :)|pg||
nt|pelu: but even with @CQ x in S u are down, @C to J and duck, @CK duck|pg||
nt|murat: cash the diamonds|pg||
nt|MolvaM: did he really play the king?|pg||
nt|MolvaM: the ace?|pg||
nt|murat: A @s and a club|pg||
nt|MolvaM: the @dJ was wining the trick|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c8|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|o10|st||md|4SQ42HATDKTCAQJ653,ST53HKQ65DQ653CT9,SAK9HJ73DAJ98C742,SJ876H9842D742CK8|sv|b|nt|roswolf: We are now on the last board of the set. Thanks to our operator, Pawel - Great Job! Our appreciation to all the organisers for ensuring that this fine event is brought to BBO ...|pg||
nt|roswolf: vugraph. Thanks too to my very learned fellow commentators Murat and Jorgen for their company and perceptive comments and to our specs whose contributions keep us on our toes.|pg||
nt|roswolf: thin slam here|pg||
mb|p|mb|1C|nt|jr7: again a slam :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|MolvaM: slammish hand here but probably wont be bid|pg||
mb|1D|mb|p|mb|2N!|mb|p|nt|roswolf: if the hungarians were n/s it would be i am sure|pg||
mb|3C|nt|MolvaM: 2nt is?|pg||
mb|p|nt|jr7: 1 nt opening is ?|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|roswolf: good clubs!?|pg||
nt|MolvaM: specs:  15-17, 6+@C no singleton|pg||
nt|MolvaM: oh no|pg||
pc|hK|nt|roswolf: no not really|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|hA|pg||
nt|MolvaM: pawel|pg||
nt|MolvaM: tell us its not true|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d3|pc|d8|pc|d4|pg||
pc|dT|pc|d5|pc|dA|pc|d2|pg||
pc|d9|pc|d7|pc|c5|pc|d6|pg||
nt|vugraphplE: Giubilo playing 3 club|pg||
nt|roswolf: cant be right a 15 count opposite an opener|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|s6|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c8|pc|cQ|nt|MolvaM: oh well|pg||
pc|c9|pg||
pc|cA|pc|cT|pc|c2|pc|cK|pg||
mc|12|nt|roswolf: well in that case the hungarians deserve to win|pg||
nt|roswolf: bye all|pg||
nt|MolvaM: thx bye|pg||
nt|vugraphplE: thank all|pg||
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qx|c10|st||md|4SQ42HATDKTCAQJ653,ST53HKQ65DQ653CT9,SAK9HJ73DAJ98C742,SJ876H9842D742CK8|sv|b|nt|Walddk3: 12 IMPs not the end of the world at this point|pg||
nt|ralfwil: another slam|pg||
nt|brolucius: So, Allerton-Leslie will think that they may have had a very big board.|pg||
nt|pelu: same did N :)|pg||
nt|paulg:  i would be bidding hearts on the next round|pg||
nt|granguru:  I think it is the correct way |pg||
nt|pelu: yes and that would show @H-stopper and bad @ss|pg||
nt|pelu: the problem - at boprt tables was Ss bold @s-bid|pg||
nt|chmitty: last board for today|pg||
mb|p|mb|1C|nt|brolucius: A question of RKCB when the spade fit comes to light.|pg||
mb|p|nt|MolvaM: for kibs who ask|pg||
nt|MolvaM: the other table scores are unreachable|pg||
nt|murat: Lavazza should get the comfortable lead|pg||
nt|MolvaM: but lavaza leads by a comfortable margin of approx 30 imps|pg||
mb|1N|nt|peachy: Thank you kibitzers, ope you enjoyed.  And thank you for your active participation with comments and questions, we are all here ONLy for you.|pg||
mb|p|nt|ralfwil: 4@c from me as W|pg||
nt|Walddk3: So Zimmermann by 6 in a minute|pg||
nt|pelu: sory a solid win for Lawazza - my calculations (:)) 37-1|pg||
nt|chmitty: ty Raija :)@h|pg||
mb|3N|nt|Walddk3: Multon won the diamond at trick 2 and paused for a while before he played another spade|pg||
mb|p|nt|brolucius: E/W fighting bravely, but hard to imagine that it will be successfully.|pg||
nt|MolvaM: that looked like broadcasting a football match on radio :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|pelu: a very normal way to bid on Ns hand|pg||
nt|paulg:  I played Mahaffey on vugraph in last year's Rosenblum ... luckily Meckwell were in Nickell's team on that occasion|pg||
mb|p|nt|brolucius: All good pairs will know what to do after intervention over 4NT (in theory....)|pg||
nt|Walddk3: The Vriend team on their way to the final; 32-9 after a slam swing on board 23, like here|pg||
nt|peachy: Last hand now, thanks to our operator Michal for a great job! Also thanks to EBL for getting these great matches shown on BBO.|pg||
nt|peachy: Also thanks to our opearor for a great job!|pg||
pc|s6|nt|chmitty: it was a reasonnable 6@c slam here but that will be for another day :) SO enjoy your evening (day) and see you tomorrow|pg||
pc|s2|nt|murat: :)|pg||
nt|pelu: same contract in OR|pg||
pc|sT|nt|pelu: 10 tricks|pg||
nt|MolvaM: the open event at this stage consists of short matches of 10 boards|pg||
nt|MolvaM: so this is the last hand of the segment|pg||
nt|peachy: Kibitzers, you are the life of this party, appreciate all your comments and questions!|pg||
pc|sK|pg||
nt|paulg:  I think 1NT as semi-forcing is quite popular, where North might pass 1NT?|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c8|nt|Walddk3: The official site has a score of 30-27 in this match. Not easy to know what to believe|pg||
nt|brolucius: Cronier may fear a diamond ruff in 6@S, because he has offered the lower-scoring slam with excellent spade support.|pg||
nt|MolvaM: many thanks to our commentators peter lund, and murat anter|pg||
nt|MolvaM: and our operator michal |pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c9|pg||
pc|s4|nt|MolvaM: and our kibitzers|pg||
pc|s5|nt|murat: my pleasure. thx everyone|pg||
nt|MolvaM: the next segment starts soon|pg||
nt|peachy: Round 3 scores  http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/orrrunda3.html|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s7|pg||
nt|Walddk3: I trust our operators until proven wrong|pg||
nt|peachy: And to Pierre Schmidt and all commentators for volunteering their time and expertise.|pg||
pc|c7|nt|bigtrain: meckwell play semi-forcing...  generally speaking meck passes all 5332s while eric bids on with 5332 maxs|pg||
pc|cK|nt|granguru:  1@D 1@H (2@S) 2N 4@D(RKCB) 4@H(3) 4@S(Q ask) 4N (noQ)5@C(cab) 5@H(2nd round) 7@D|pg||
pc|cA|pc|cT|pg||
mc|13|nt|peachy: Finally, full vugraph schedule http://www.bridgebase.com/vugraph/schedule.php so you can make plans to stay glued to your screen for more :)|pg||
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