vg|A EC 2011 Final - teams OPEN,3_3,I,1,16,Bessis,120,Mahaffey,106| rs|3DN+1,2DN+1,1NE+1,3NE-1,2HE=,3HE-3,3HW=,2SE-2,4SW=,4SWx=,2SE-1,3NS=,4SW+1,4SE+1,4HN+1,4HNx+1,3SN=,3CN+1,3NW=,3DE+1,5CEx-1,6CE-2,2SE-1,2SE=,2NS=,2NS=,4CS-4,2HN-1,4SS=,4SS+1,5CNx-3,4HW=| pn|Bessis M,Rodwell,Bessis T,Meckstroth,Pszczola,Smirnov,Lev,Piekarek|pg|| qx|o1|st||md|3SQJ52HK92DAT75CQ3,S8764H43D4CKJ8742,SK9HJT6DJ98632CA5,SAT3HAQ875DKQCT96|sv|o|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|daman: we need Walter Johnson aka bigtrian on BBO|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|p|nt|vugraphpl5: thank you :)|pg|| nt|daman: a simple transfer sequence|pg|| mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|szalay: 2@S was xfer to @C or bal gametry, 3@C: goodish hand|pg|| nt|szalay: 1N:14-16|pg|| pc|c6|nt|royhughes: Thomas made a courageous balance|pg|| nt|barnets: yes|pg|| nt|daman: fearless|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|fokal: couragous or mad, depends on the point of view|pg|| pc|cK|nt|barnets: tsonga broke federer in fifth set wimbledon first game|pg|| pc|cA|pg|| nt|royhughes: EW advertised long clubs and not too many points|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s4|pg|| nt|royhughes: which suggests bidding but it could have been wrong|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|h6|pg|| pc|h8|nt|snorre: ..|pg|| nt|royhughes: NS had an easier time bidding diamonds in the other room|pg|| nt|fokal: well it's also a matter of atmosphere, he does want meckwell to feel unease|pg|| nt|daman: East almost has to have the @H Q in order to have bid 3@C which showed a good hand|pg|| nt|szalay: btw 120-104 or 106? website reads 104|pg|| nt|royhughes: so declarer might take his chance for an overtrick by ducking|pg|| nt|daman: we mentioned that earlier|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h4|pc|hT|pg|| nt|daman: I think the website could be wrong|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pc|d4|pg|| mc|11|nt|royhughes: made 4|pg|| nt|barnets: thats the first imp for bessis in a lot of boards|pg|| pg|| qx|c1|st||md|3SQJ52HK92DAT75CQ3,S8764H43D4CKJ8742,SK9HJT6DJ98632CA5,SAT3HAQ875DKQCT96|sv|o|nt|tsadek: ok Tokay here|pg|| nt|jfaria: hi all|pg|| nt|jbgood: we and kibs are having much good entertainment - fine match|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: hi all|pg|| nt|jbgood: rehi:)|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: EW plays polish club|pg|| mb|p|nt|glen: complete Lavazza team is:Norberto BOCCHI, Giorgio DUBOIN, Agustin MADALA, Antonio SEMENTA, Mustafa Cem TOKAY, Jon BALDURSSON|pg|| nt|barnets: east started multi 2@D in open|pg|| mb|1H|mb|p|nt|jfaria: hi all|pg|| nt|glen: hi all :)|pg|| nt|psyck: Hello everyone|pg|| nt|glen: S here has invented a 3rd @S|pg|| nt|barnets: and the contract is 5@S e/w|pg|| nt|jbgood: this is session 2 of 3 - 16 boards each|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg|| nt|pelu: 10 tricks both way - so in OR the fight is on the 5-level :)|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/ofrunda1.html - running scores|pg|| mb|p|nt|Walddk2: Easy grand slam?|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/or161t3-1.htm|pg|| nt|jbgood: Good morning|pg|| nt|bigtrain: good morning everyone|pg|| nt|barnets: 5@S will go quietly down 1|pg|| mb|2D|nt|Walddk2: To to make at least|pg|| nt|jfaria: a very close match, 1 imp diference|pg|| nt|galadriel: Hello everyone|pg|| nt|psyck: 2@s likely a weaker raise with 2@h a good raise|pg|| nt|glen: E has two choices: X, or 3@H|pg|| nt|psyck: with @sAx, @dK, @c doubleton, a sensible 2@s even with doubleton i suppose|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: hi all|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Good morning everyone|pg|| nt|jbgood: 3 sessions of 16 boards to decide the winners|pg|| nt|pelu: Hi all|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Michal, Jon, Peter, Bill and Walter|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: all bbo tables - http://www.bridgebase.com/mobile/|pg|| mb|p|nt|tsadek: west need fit +K@C then he ask for aces|pg|| nt|pelu: here I prefer "Nt as transfer to @D (and 2@S for @C)|pg|| nt|jfaria: weak nt and a rubish stayman by n|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg|| mb|p|nt|glen: expect 2NT to be @D transfer, and 3@C = likes @Ds|pg|| nt|glen: and now W has to decide is it a good day for not vulnerable games|pg|| mb|p|nt|pelu: so 3@H = singleton|pg|| nt|pelu: diff when u have 2 singletons :)|pg|| nt|rado: hi all:)|pg|| nt|rado: @D lead and @S underlead Ak will beat it but unlikely|pg|| nt|pelu: many would X in S, but with a passed partner "Pepsi" passed|pg|| pc|c9|nt|jfaria: just in time for an exciting board :)|pg|| nt|galadriel: Well, 5@S will make|pg|| nt|jfaria: who could bid it?|pg|| nt|glen: W may think his 4@Ss means that E has a singleton or void|pg|| nt|jbgood: red card means not so quiet<.9|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|galadriel: Do you think North should bid one more? Or is he worried to push them into makingslam?|pg|| nt|thenapster: hi all:)|pg|| nt|psyck: true, but as u said, since NV, he passes|pg|| nt|barnets: just 2 imps|pg|| pc|cK|nt|vugraphpl8: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/osw2t1-1.htm|pg|| nt|psyck: Hi Lotan|pg|| nt|thenapster: we are going to see very agressive style by the Danish pair|pg|| pc|cA|pg|| nt|jfaria: NS found a good suit and 3nt looks noraml|pg|| nt|pelu: so a X from the hand with no tricks|pg|| pc|dJ|nt|vugraphpl8: http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg|| pc|dK|nt|pelu: NL in 7@d in CR|pg|| nt|pelu: standard bidding : 3@D tranfer, 3NT pass/correct, and 4@C = cue with good @hs|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: now it's ok|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d4|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: LEV: sory partner|pg|| pc|s2|nt|galadriel: From is point of view, 6 of minor could be on|pg|| nt|glen: hi Krishna, Lotan|pg|| nt|psyck: will be tough to match the aggresion of Meckwell sitting same seats other table :)|pg|| nt|thenapster: :)|pg|| pc|s4|nt|galadriel: his|pg|| nt|jfaria: think the light opening by W succeeded|pg|| pc|sK|nt|glen: what was that about fines for slow play, how about fines for slow bidding?|pg|| nt|tsadek: I like Verhees bid of 3@S in closed room , Force his pd to bid 4@C with K@C|pg|| nt|pelu: not easy when two players from so dif nations and diff style play together|pg|| nt|jbgood: and I guess peter is anxious to see another century this last session|pg|| pc|sA|pg|| nt|jfaria: my connection is so slow that i fear commenting one game after the one is played :(|pg|| nt|jbgood: if prd was kind he could win a @c trick...|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d5|nt|pelu: 5@H ask for @DQ - better 5Nt ask for @C-cue|pg|| pc|c2|pc|d9|pg|| nt|pelu: what a start - 9 trick in @C and @D and bidding dieed out in 2@D - in 1. and 2. they would bid on 4-level :)|pg|| pc|c6|nt|tsadek: 5NT here will beter than 5@H to know k@C|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cJ|nt|Walddk1: Hello Rado and Martin|pg|| nt|fabsayc: hi Rado, spectators|pg|| pc|c5|pg|| mc|9|nt|pelu: that sh be impossible - a NT-hand who bid again |pg|| pg|| qx|o2|st||md|4S95HKJ96D832CA863,SAQ32H854DQT64CK4,SKT874HQ2DJ5CQ975,SJ6HAT73DAK97CJT2|sv|n|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|daman: Joanna that was +1|pg|| mb|1N|nt|daman: cool|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s9|nt|royhughes: Michel chooses to lead dummy's suit rather than his own broken one|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s8|pc|sJ|pg|| nt|barnets: in 3n in closed|pg|| nt|barnets: looks a lot to do|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|cK|pc|c5|pg|| nt|royhughes: Yes -- I see 8 tricks but hard to see a 9th|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c7|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|s6|pg|| pc|d4|nt|fokal: @c and @c :) psycoligical play|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dK|pc|d8|pg|| pc|dA|nt|daman: I am told the real score3 is 121-104 there was an error in the second session which corrected the final tally|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d6|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d3|pc|dT|pc|s4|pg|| nt|fokal: t certainly seems they are having fun, though playing an important match|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|sT|pc|d9|pc|h6|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|h9|pg|| pc|hT|nt|barnets: a heart lead v 3N in closed -- not much play at all|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h5|pc|h2|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h8|pc|c9|pc|h3|pg|| pc|c6|pc|s3|pc|cQ|pc|cT|pg|| pc|sK|pc|h7|pc|c8|pc|sQ|pg|| pg|| qx|o3|st||md|1SKT8HJ64DK872CA94,S3HK8DAQ653CQJ752,SQJ95HA52DJCKT863,SA7642HQT973DT94C|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1D!|nt|bigtrain: hi everyone|pg|| nt|bigtrain: sorry i'm late|pg|| nt|daman: Walter!!!!|pg|| mb|d|mb|2H|nt|daman: we were hoping you would show up lol|pg|| nt|royhughes: 2@h must show both majors and a limited hand|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 1@D = 2+ 10-15|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 2@H = 5+@S 4+@H less than invitational|pg|| nt|daman: emphasis on limited in this case|pg|| nt|bigtrain: catching my breath :)|pg|| mb|p|nt|bigtrain: looks like a comeback was made after i left|pg|| nt|royhughes: Michel has rather a good hand with all this bidding in front of him|pg|| nt|bigtrain: btw, had a phone call while i was gone....|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 1NT X (cards/penalty) XX = 2-suits same shape|pg|| nt|daman: Championship website http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg|| nt|bigtrain: i thi8nk that was from the last hand second set|pg|| nt|bigtrain: meck doesn't much like his options|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|h6|nt|daman: trump lead|pg|| nt|royhughes: passing looks like the best of those bad options|pg|| pc|h8|nt|bigtrain: -1 max after they pick the trump for him looks like|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h3|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d4|pc|d7|nt|royhughes: looks like making now, draw trumps|pg|| pc|dQ|pg|| nt|barnets: 5 imps for meckwell for staying in 1N last hand|pg|| nt|royhughes: If Meckstroth reads it, he can cash the trump king, ruff a club, draw trump and score 3 diamonds|pg|| nt|daman: drawing trumps is strongly recommended after that switch|pg|| nt|bigtrain: offerring him another option... interstingto see which he takes|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|h7|pc|h4|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|s8|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hJ|pc|c2|pc|h5|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|c3|pg|| pc|d3|pc|c6|pc|dT|pc|d2|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sT|pc|c5|pc|s9|pg|| nt|barnets: same contract in closed|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d5|pc|c8|pc|h9|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|d6|nt|royhughes: Meck may make an overtrick|pg|| pc|sQ|pg|| mc|8|nt|royhughes: no, defense got it right|pg|| pg|| qx|c3|st||md|1SKT8HJ64DK872CA94,S3HK8DAQ653CQJ752,SQJ95HA52DJCKT863,SA7642HQT973DT94C|sv|e|nt|thenapster: meckstroth was very agressive in board number 2 to bid 4sp by S after e-w reached 4cl|pg|| nt|brotherp: betting Meckwell will bid game|pg|| nt|pelu: now I have 15-3 for p/c :)|pg|| nt|barnets: very fortunate 5@D here|pg|| mb|p|mb|1D|nt|galadriel: was that really 11 tricks?|pg|| nt|jfaria: impossible|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 1@C = 16+ any shape|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 1@D=a) 11-18 HCP, 5+@D b) 11-15 HCP, 4441@C/@S c) 19-21 HCP, @D & another|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i promise not to show that again|pg|| nt|jbgood: so the gap down to 10 ....|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i did show it yesterday -- so i promise only once per set :)|pg|| mb|d|nt|vugraphpl8: http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 1NT = 5+@C GF|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 3@C = club slam try or @D sign-off|pg|| nt|pelu: 5 @D down on a @C-lead played by S|pg|| nt|jbgood: here: the latter|pg|| mb|1S|nt|rado: disciplinned pass by S non vuln vs Vuln|pg|| nt|jfaria: only in another movie :)|pg|| nt|galadriel: I thought it was 9 only|pg|| nt|glen: running scores: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/or16runda1.html|pg|| nt|psyck: @d lead may have been needed to defeat 4@s|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: all bbo tables - http://www.bridgebase.com/mobile/index.php?r=251836|pg|| mb|2N|an|.|nt|pelu: 18 kibs: 15 vote for pass/correct 3 for slaminvite :) - I just for their system - not votes :):)|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 2@C = 5+@H|pg|| mb|p|nt|alok_daga: Qx,Qx,hardly an opening hand,M also 2 2|pg|| nt|Walddk5: Michal, you sure?|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 1@S was forcing|pg|| mb|p|nt|bigtrain: 2@D = <3@H good hand|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 2@S = natural|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: all bbo tables - http://www.bridgebase.com/mobile/|pg|| nt|barnets: In 5@D east led a top spade and switched a low club dec won Q and led a low heart to the 10|pg|| nt|ahollan1: meckwell got to use their unusual jump so 1@D-DBL-2@H was 5@S & 4+@H, non-invite|pg|| mb|3H|nt|pelu: here NL had 5½ bidding-round to find 4@S with 6@s almost cold|pg|| nt|Walddk5: Only 1 IMP in it, but that could be important with the scoreline this close|pg|| nt|Walddk5: Corrected now|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: sry bad claim|pg|| nt|Walddk5: np|pg|| nt|brotherp: ending up in 2@s|pg|| mb|p|nt|glen: in the other room EW made six bids without @S, but then accidently bid the suit to play there|pg|| nt|rado: we've seen many wild openings those days:)|pg|| nt|psyck: well, if they just play trump, that may also work|pg|| nt|glen: sadly all bbo tables do not fit nicely into my iphone :)|pg|| mb|p|nt|glen: the 4@S bid here will be enough to get to slam now|pg|| nt|glen: even though EW are just temporary italians, they will use roman keycard blackwood|pg|| nt|pelu: for sure ita not easy to find out that the hands fit so well|pg|| nt|glen: Q. what is 2NT, A. unknown to us, but likely forcing game try, that in this case is a slam try|pg|| mb|p|nt|tsadek: 2NT want to know 2@S with 3card or 4card|pg|| nt|pelu: 2NT could be invit+|pg|| nt|tsadek: 4@S max 4card @S|pg|| nt|jfaria: they always do , the making games and all the others :)|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 3@C = natural|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 3@D = waiting|pg|| nt|bigtrain: although he may just gamble 3NT|pg|| pc|h4|nt|alok_daga: True,Rado,the openings r getting wilder by the day|pg|| nt|galadriel: Thanks :)|pg|| nt|jfaria: "wrong sided" in open got a @d lead|pg|| nt|glen: yikes to that X|pg|| nt|twcho: I guess they are not native German but immigrants from other countries|pg|| pc|h8|nt|glen: wow|pg|| nt|pelu: if so, then 4@s stronger than 3@s|pg|| nt|glen: or in this case, reverse wow|pg|| nt|fabsayc: the funny thing is the light to wild openings don't seem to ever work, one wonders the attraction|pg|| nt|alok_daga: Query,wud u sell 2 a 2dmnds or xle from Easts hand?P marked with strength|pg|| nt|rado: Declarer mau like @c continuation|pg|| nt|athene: @CA10 is pretty good support|pg|| pc|hA|nt|psyck: :)|pg|| nt|psyck: it would not occur to me for sure at this vul|pg|| nt|athene: given partner has bid the suit twice|pg|| nt|fokal: here they can make 6 @c (even 7 ! ). Can they reach it ?|pg|| nt|fokal: 4 @c will defnetly help|pg|| pc|h3|pg|| nt|jbgood: sure they will bid 6@c|pg|| nt|athene: 4@D rkcb?|pg|| pc|h2|nt|fabsayc: east does not have a second bid|pg|| nt|rado: 3 rounds of @C now|pg|| nt|jbgood: a bit too much by doubling first and then 3@s afterwards?|pg|| pc|h7|nt|pelu: its difficult - I dont expect many tables will bid this slam|pg|| nt|brotherp: declarer will go after @h's|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 4@C surprises me a bit with 5422 minimum... thats why i expected 3@D|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 4@D = rkc|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 4NT = 2 no Q|pg|| nt|barnets: now rod has to guess hearts|pg|| pc|h6|nt|jfaria: E and N bidding @h first meaning @s |pg|| pc|hK|pg|| pc|d3|nt|galadriel: West would be ruffing with his natural trump trick|pg|| nt|pelu: Smirnow from Russia and Piekarek from Poland|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dT|nt|pelu: how can u ask with void in H?|pg|| nt|athene: i guess meckstroth decided that after his partner showed extras *and* rebiddable clubs, 5@C was going to be safe, despite the poor diamond holding|pg|| nt|ahollan1: M Bessis also led @H|pg|| pc|d2|pg|| nt|jbgood: so i was wrong - again:)|pg|| nt|bigtrain: they don't have exclusion available in the auction|pg|| nt|barnets: low heart ?|pg|| nt|pelu: I dont belive this trick|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: running scores - http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/ofrunda1.html|pg|| pc|c3|nt|fokal: everybody told, 6 they bid for sure|pg|| nt|pelu: but then Thomas in on @HA return @dJ a-d easy 8 tricks|pg|| pc|s6|pc|cA|pc|c2|pg|| nt|barnets: maybe the 6 is better|pg|| nt|barnets: than the J|pg|| nt|barnets: wanting east to bounce|pg|| nt|barnets: with the ace|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Thomas played the 6 in tempo|pg|| nt|jbgood: will he find it?|pg|| nt|barnets: if he plays the J easier for east to play low|pg|| nt|jbgood: E has bid as if he owns the deck - so perhaps he may have @h A and Q|pg|| nt|barnets: with the ace of course|pg|| nt|pelu: but the both play for Germany now|pg|| nt|barnets: east has shown a very strong hand on bidding|pg|| nt|chessmaste: Declarer knows East has the @SAK, and by inference has the minor suit kings - no club switch|pg|| nt|barnets: and west a little something|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Yes Mark, but East has not revealed @SQ|pg|| nt|chessmaste: Would West raise with just four trumps and maybe a couple of queens? He might|pg|| pc|dK|nt|alok_daga: If u follow Mike Lawrence he shud be competing!|pg|| nt|galadriel: last trick for the defence|pg|| pc|dA|nt|jfaria: 1 imp back|pg|| nt|Walddk4: He could have @HA instead of the two queens|pg|| pc|h5|pc|d4|pg|| nt|brotherp: short of a chinese finesse|pg|| nt|athene: hard when your useful void is in partner's first-bid suit|pg|| nt|fokal: let me tell to the kibs, that the players don't see the 4 hands , even the world masters|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sA|nt|psyck: unless they play weak NT, S could have invited after 2@s|pg|| nt|barnets: i think that play is understandeable|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Rodwell's reasoning too|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s3|pg|| nt|barnets: east also X|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|barnets: in other room no x|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|pelu: so far 2 out of 6 in slam|pg|| nt|brotherp: nice @h 8 by askgaard|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c6|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sK|nt|jbgood: y - just unlucky that E didnt have the ave|pg|| nt|jbgood: ace|pg|| pc|d5|pc|s5|pg|| nt|glen: i've been searching for a cc, but have found none|pg|| nt|thenapster: same|pg|| nt|glen: i'm told its 12-15|pg|| nt|psyck: ok, then an understandable auction|pg|| nt|brotherp: but ask needed his clubs...|pg|| pc|sT|pc|c7|pc|sJ|pc|s4|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s7|nt|glen: and some not even in @S|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cJ|pg|| nt|brotherp: 8 now|pg|| mc|6|nt|jbgood: no gap any more|pg|| nt|jbgood: just a singular imp|pg|| pg|| qx|o4|st||md|2SK97HJTDAJ97CJ873,S3HA98643DT85CKT9,ST542HK752DKQ3C62,SAQJ86HQD642CAQ54|sv|b|nt|barnets: in 3@H in closed|pg|| nt|daman: same contract and same lead in the CR|pg|| mb|2H|mb|p|nt|daman: sorry yes 3@H|pg|| nt|daman: hey Al|pg|| nt|royhughes: Is Meckstroth worth a bid over 2@h?|pg|| nt|daman: not likely|pg|| mb|2N|mb|p|nt|daman: but who am I to talk|pg|| mb|3C|nt|royhughes: He has a good hand opposite good hearts, no so good opposite Axxxxx|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 2NT asks|pg|| mb|p|nt|royhughes: Anyone know what 2@s would have been?|pg|| mb|3H|nt|bigtrain: i might :)|pg|| mb|p|nt|fokal: losing only one @h trick in this lay-out|pg|| nt|daman: Hoping for good @Hs is aiming for a small target|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|bigtrain: 2@S is NF|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 3@C is minimum|pg|| pc|dK|nt|fokal: but the 4 th round of @d can make the day|pg|| nt|royhughes: The heart suit might play for 1 loser but there is a potential promotion of the heart 7|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|d5|pg|| nt|bigtrain: they don't play polish or anything of that ilk... just ordinary weak 2s|pg|| nt|bigtrain: the responses to 2NT are basically quantitative... the more you bid the better you have|pg|| nt|royhughes: Interesting defensive problem -- NS want to play a 4th diamond after a round of trumps has been played|pg|| nt|fokal: have to play 3 more round of @d now|pg|| nt|royhughes: but I don't think a 4th diamond works if no trumps have been played|pg|| nt|fokal: even before is ok|pg|| nt|fokal: but with S card on the lead it will already be difficulté to play another @d|pg|| nt|royhughes: Oh, yes I think Oliv is right|pg|| nt|fokal: difficult|pg|| nt|daman: 1 IMP difference now|pg|| nt|fokal: I play the 4th @d what would W ruff with ?|pg|| nt|fokal: the 9 ? promotion, something else ? I overruff and promotion again :)|pg|| nt|daman: 241 IMPs over 35 boards |pg|| nt|fokal: but I really don't like this 7 of @d|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d4|pc|dA|pc|d8|pg|| nt|fokal: the As was the most clear :)|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dT|pc|d3|pc|d6|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cT|pc|c2|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|barnets: this defence will ne in bridgeur|pg|| nt|royhughes: Now I think declarer has to guess the spade king|pg|| nt|barnets: next month|pg|| nt|barnets: as a problem|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h3|nt|fokal: I don't think he needs that|pg|| nt|daman: no|pg|| nt|royhughes: sorry, |pg|| nt|fokal: np :)|pg|| nt|royhughes: Good analysis, Oliv|pg|| nt|fokal: yes maybe I'll put it, if I find enough evidence :)|pg|| pc|hK|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|s3|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|h4|pc|s2|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|c4|pc|hT|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c4|st||md|2SK97HJTDAJ97CJ873,S3HA98643DT85CKT9,ST542HK752DKQ3C62,SAQJ86HQD642CAQ54|sv|b|nt|thenapster: 5 imps back to demark in board 2|pg|| nt|barnets: chance to hit back here for n/s|pg|| mb|p|nt|pelu: easy come - easy go - this look as IMP for US|pg|| mb|p|nt|thenapster: denmark* of course|pg|| nt|glen: this should be the big @C opening|pg|| mb|1S|nt|alok_daga: Shud be dead push,this brd|pg|| nt|thenapster: 16+|pg|| nt|athene: rodwell just decided to go with the odds - that one of partner's keycards was the @HA|pg|| mb|p|nt|psyck: S passes to show some 0-4 maybe|pg|| nt|glen: S will pass as many times as legal on the auction|pg|| nt|bigtrain: well i guess they could jump to 5@H but that commits them to slam :)|pg|| nt|ahollan1: Rodwell in 3@H after opening 2@H|pg|| nt|pelu: no I exp a misscore -2 IMp for US so still 3 IMP for Bessis|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 1@S=11-18 HCP, 5+@S, maybe stronger if good 2-suiter|pg|| mb|1N|nt|pelu: Denmark and Hungary (against Monaco) bid 6@s|pg|| nt|glen: how good was the 6@H contract?|pg|| nt|glen: with @D KT doubleton, was nice layout|pg|| nt|rado: now some quiet board 4@S for just|pg|| nt|brotherp: sort off a @s-partial for NS; wonder if they will enter the bidding though|pg|| nt|barnets: south made a X of 2@H that put huge pressure on partner|pg|| mb|p|nt|tsadek: 6@H will be great from N side|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 1@C = 16+|pg|| mb|2C|an|.|nt|glen: or runout to @Cs|pg|| nt|psyck: most play some artificial bids on strong @c, but 1@d not alerted|pg|| nt|glen: EW is a sponsor-pro partnership, and they tend to try to keep things error free, let the meckwells win the imps|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 2@D = nat|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2@C could be 2|pg|| mb|p|nt|athene: 2@S overcall might cause a little more trouble|pg|| nt|fokal: well I have to say that it's quite surprising that they didn't reach that slam after the 4 @c bid, but I was still though to give value to the void in partner suit|pg|| nt|athene: but he decided the risk/reward ratio not good enough|pg|| mb|2H|nt|galadriel: This may not be everyone's opening|pg|| nt|jfaria: 6 on a finesse?|pg|| nt|galadriel: And will probably get them to slam|pg|| nt|jfaria: well EW got kucky with a light opening first board|pg|| nt|galadriel: My view is that, if it is your partnership style to open these hands, that's fine, but the system must have good brakes|pg|| nt|jfaria: hard to stY OU NOW, WITH W HAND|pg|| nt|jfaria: sry capps|pg|| nt|glen: oh, S did not run out|pg|| nt|jfaria: Denmark must feel loosing some ground but they r dealing with avery tuff pair in this room|pg|| nt|pelu: ok a bet: this time NS will bid slam :)|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 2@H is nat (coincidentally) asking|pg|| mb|p|nt|bigtrain: meckwell are fairly conservative slam bidders|pg|| nt|athene: "there are lots of ways to win imps with +680" as meckstroth says in his book :)|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 2NT = any 3fit|pg|| mb|2S|nt|rado: :)|pg|| nt|psyck: yeah, quite a view|pg|| nt|psyck: S not liking his options at all|pg|| nt|psyck: 3@c could be too high, with 2@d going down|pg|| nt|pelu: 2 @D ruff will set up @D then no need to find @cQ|pg|| mb|p|nt|glen: he could now bid 1@C - that would get partner to stop these doubles and play the contract|pg|| nt|jbgood: the axe in this room too|pg|| nt|ahollan1: it is supposed to be Gazzilli but last set Piek passed 2@C|pg|| mb|p|nt|jfaria: nebulous @d opening in precision|pg|| mb|p|nt|jfaria: all this must be scientific and of c forcing|pg|| nt|galadriel: I guess 2@C is GF|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/or321t7-2.htm|pg|| nt|Walddk5: 1@H is 4+ spades or a GF relay|pg|| nt|brotherp: meck bid game as expected in the open room; Denmark need to get something going|pg|| nt|barnets: so can he make it ?|pg|| nt|jbgood: yes - this may just make - for a double game swing|pg|| nt|barnets: he can afford 2 trump losers and 3 clubs|pg|| nt|pelu: but for sure I like the 2@s bid better than the agrressive pass by Thomas in OR|pg|| nt|jbgood: yes - much better |pg|| nt|barnets: h does not have atrump to lead|pg|| nt|barnets: that is always bad|pg|| nt|barnets: as a trump lead is standout|pg|| nt|pelu: @H lead and then @D to A and @Dq?|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|Walddk1: 2 segments of 14 boards in the R32, R16, QF and SF. 3 x 16 in the finals on Wednesday|pg|| nt|glen: it is like the pass over 1@D showed some values|pg|| nt|psyck: i dont understand 3N at all, N already showed his hand|pg|| nt|brotherp: and this is not what they need - although u might say opps have missed game (5@D seems unbiddable though)|pg|| nt|bigtrain: meck has a rule... the 480-50 rule|pg|| nt|barnets: sorry wrong hand on lead|pg|| nt|jbgood: even if he goes 1 down it is a tenner gained|pg|| nt|barnets: just 5 tumps to lead :)\|pg|| nt|pelu: diff to find but after a @C-lead closew to down 2|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h5|nt|Walddk5: 1NT 11-13|pg|| nt|galadriel: 1@H is nat or GF, I'm told|pg|| nt|thenapster: very bad|pg|| nt|fokal: yes they should reach this one|pg|| pc|hQ|pg|| nt|Walddk5: No, 4+ spades or GF relay|pg|| nt|Walddk5: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/ConventionCards/2009BermudaBowlBrazil/bermudabowl/norway/groetheim-tundal.pdf|pg|| nt|jfaria: only @d lead will cooperate with EW goal|pg|| nt|galadriel: I somehow don't think that will happen...|pg|| nt|thenapster: no dbl no trouble|pg|| nt|psyck: 3@c could have even made with @h fin , this is prayerless|pg|| nt|brotherp: difficult for West to rightly appraise the bare @h Ace|pg|| pc|h3|nt|fokal: 4@s was rkcb in @h ?|pg|| nt|bigtrain: meck has a rule - "the 460-50 rule" it's much better to be +480 then -50|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 580-50|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 480-50|pg|| pc|h7|nt|jfaria: good thing 4 N nerves, he must stil be depressed by B15|pg|| pc|s6|pc|hT|pg|| nt|ahollan1: neither pair could stop in a 7 card fit|pg|| nt|ahollan1: at the 2-level|pg|| nt|jbgood: 2@h would play well|pg|| pc|cA|nt|pelu: need on 3 entries: @S-ruff, @HA and later @CK|pg|| pc|c7|nt|rado: Defense should continue @H to stop overtrick now|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 4@S is RKC here|pg|| nt|pelu: this 2 teams realy like to entertain kibs - 111 IMPs in 1. segment, and here we go again|pg|| nt|jbgood: the difference between going 1 down and making is a mere 6 IMPs|pg|| nt|april7: hand and 2 aces*|pg|| nt|barnets: well @D hook @D ruff is 4 @HA ruff is 6 and 2 trumps are 8|pg|| nt|pelu: GIB: 8 tricks in @S for Ns - and GIB is better than me :)|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c2|pg|| nt|jfaria: can see nothing besides @d hook|pg|| nt|galadriel: Nor can I|pg|| nt|barnets: or he could just ruff 2 diamonds|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|Walddk5: I see 11 IMPs to Bulgaria|pg|| pc|c3|nt|jfaria: but W will try to get as much count as he can|pg|| pc|cT|nt|psyck: well, no entry for @h fin in the 1st place though :)|pg|| nt|barnets: so this bad board in both rooms is kind of lucky for Bessis as they only lose once rather than twice|pg|| pc|c6|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c8|nt|psyck: so just traded -1 for -2 or so, no big deal undoubled|pg|| pc|cK|pc|s2|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|d5|pg|| nt|pelu: 87 kibs agree with GIB - I surrender|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d4|pc|d9|pc|d8|pg|| nt|ahollan1: but Rodwell opened 2@H and Meck investigated|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d6|nt|jbgood: nice|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: http://www.bridgebase.com/mobile/|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg|| pc|dJ|nt|jfaria: very favourable position of kings, not a good game|pg|| pc|dT|pg|| pc|cJ|nt|psyck: Results: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/or16runda1.html|pg|| nt|psyck: Main Tourney site: http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: http://www.bridgebase.com/mobile/index.php?r=251836|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s4|pc|c5|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i don't remember gazzilli well enough to know if Piek was allowed to pass 2@H seems he could/should|pg|| pc|hK|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|h4|pg|| pc|dA|pc|h6|pc|sT|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|h8|pc|s5|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s9|pc|h9|pc|h2|pg|| pg|| qx|o5|st||md|3S5HKJT876DQ42CQ75,SAT98742HQ53DAK8C,SKQ6H2D975CAJT864,SJ3HA94DJT63CK932|sv|n|nt|barnets: tsonga beat federer 3-2 wimbledon |pg|| mb|1C|mb|p|nt|barnets: theres a surprise|pg|| mb|1H|mb|1S|mb|2C|mb|d|nt|barnets: mahaffey in lead by 7|pg|| mb|3C|mb|4S|nt|barnets: maybe 5|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|bigtrain: @H lead makes it an interesting play problem|pg|| pc|cA|nt|royhughes: Rodwell has only 3 losers but some entry trouble for taking finesses|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|s2|pg|| nt|barnets: is X showing xx spade and values walter ?|pg|| nt|royhughes: this lead will make it easy|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|s3|pc|s5|pg|| pc|s7|nt|bigtrain: the X is snapdragon... shows some values, some diamonds and alittle support|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sJ|pc|h8|pg|| nt|royhughes: I understand the club ace lead, looking at 2 trump tricks|pg|| pc|sK|pc|c3|pc|h6|pc|s4|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|hK|pc|h3|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c5|st||md|3S5HKJT876DQ42CQ75,SAT98742HQ53DAK8C,SKQ6H2D975CAJT864,SJ3HA94DJT63CK932|sv|n|nt|glen: one thing about the event schedule: I would suggest once it is down to the 32 teams on the monday, it goes 1 KO each day - 32-16-8-4, and then the last 2 teams play 1 1/2 days to ...|pg|| nt|glen: end when the pairs end|pg|| nt|jfaria: but a chance for denmark in open|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/or161t3-2.htm|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/or16runda1.html|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg|| nt|pelu: ok IMPs back to Bessis?|pg|| nt|ahollan1: and they probably modify structure a little since the 1@S opener is limited 11-18|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|chessmaste: The bidding in the other room was Kamikaze system|pg|| nt|jbgood: to flatten 1100 is no easy task|pg|| mb|2D|an|multi|nt|brotherp: the challenge for the Danes is to get opps bid at the 5 level here|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: http://www.bridgebase.com/mobile/index.php?r=348267|pg|| nt|barnets: when west found 4 trumps in north the save did not work well|pg|| nt|jbgood: new leaders...|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: running scores - http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/ofrunda1.html|pg|| nt|pelu: so 3. board in a row where Meck/Well outbid/ outplay Smirnov/Piekarek|pg|| nt|ahollan1: do pepsi-lev play real multi or is this always a weak 2@H/@S opener?|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: I think that correct result is on running scores site|pg|| nt|ahollan1: EW 2@D includes a strong balanced hand [2N opener is artificial]|pg|| mb|3S|nt|pelu: back to the slam in bopard 23 : 10 out of 26 in 6@S - more than I expected|pg|| mb|d|nt|vugraphpl8: http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/osw2t1-1.htm|pg|| nt|jfaria: EW got nt first in our room|pg|| nt|ahollan1: unfortunately we call both forms "multi" when the always weak 2M should be "Wagner"|pg|| mb|4S|nt|glen: sad you can't win both the pairs and teams, but nice to share gold medals|pg|| nt|bigtrain: X = cards|pg|| mb|p|nt|brotherp: and hopefully for them playing in @h 's |pg|| nt|bigtrain: let me do a better job of explaining meck's 480-50 rule...|pg|| mb|p|nt|bigtrain: it's better to be +480 than -50 -- in other words its better to miss a slam than bid one and go down|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/ofrunda1.html|pg|| mb|p|nt|glen: some how a partscore got in here, will call the TD|pg|| nt|jfaria: sometime NS will find @d|pg|| nt|jfaria: now?|pg|| pc|h2|nt|glen: losing teams can join the pairs event on the next day, so only two final teams missed pairs completely|pg|| nt|pelu: very few pairs only use 2@D as weak major - in Scandinavia for sure 1-2 strong options|pg|| nt|jbgood: with no entries in S this might make even given N has 2 spade tricks (he is entitled to his club ace - W discarding - and that is that)|pg|| pc|hA|nt|alok_daga: gud xle|pg|| pc|h7|nt|glen: in the other room E led a trump|pg|| nt|barnets: perhaps west had done his work in the open with his preempt to 3@S|pg|| nt|jbgood: not that easy to win 3 NT on a spade lead...|pg|| nt|pelu: but after the bidding West is favorit to @cQ and @DJ|pg|| nt|barnets: Rodwell made a very tricky 3N in last set|pg|| pc|h5|pg|| nt|glen: assuming the JT98 lead would not hurt, and could stop a @C ruff|pg|| nt|glen: here E switches to that horse at trick two|pg|| nt|jfaria: S lost an entry, but still in the run|pg|| nt|galadriel: For anyone unfamiliar with VG on BBO, if you put your cursor over result from open room, you can see the bidding thee|pg|| nt|galadriel: there|pg|| pc|sJ|nt|galadriel: Also, if you click on movie you can see all the results of the match - click on open room|pg|| nt|jfaria: except if are wearing a Mac with no Bo software as i'm doing :)|pg|| nt|pelu: 3Nt make = -11 - down 1 = -15 - so gamebonus here are 4 IMP :)|pg|| pc|s5|nt|glen: if NS had enough communication after drawing trumps, could bring in @Ds for no losers|pg|| nt|galadriel: for running scores http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg|| nt|jfaria: BBO software, i mean|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: all bbo tables - http://www.bridgebase.com/mobile/|pg|| nt|jfaria: no imaginable problems with this lead|pg|| pc|s2|nt|vugraphpl8: http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg|| nt|pelu: what is going on here? 3@S ? weak -. strong or intermediate? and where did east get 4@S from?|pg|| pc|sQ|pg|| nt|jfaria: well Popov decided to go on on @s, not a good try|pg|| pc|cA|nt|alok_daga: Mansfield proved right yet again,5level belongs 2 opponent.5hrts=1dwn thus this 300 the best they cud do|pg|| nt|alok_daga: actually on cl Q lead 4hrts also dwn?|pg|| nt|thenapster: nope|pg|| nt|thenapster: i think the final teams going for final A|pg|| nt|thenapster: like the semi finals..|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c5|nt|pelu: diff - even with open cards - to find more that 7 tricks for N|pg|| nt|jbgood: it is makeable, but first hurdle is clubs|pg|| pc|s4|pg|| pc|sA|nt|athene: sometimes you delay playing the critical suit to find out which defender might have Jxxx|pg|| pc|s6|nt|thenapster: thats the way it was in the mixed i played last week|pg|| nt|brotherp: next hand|pg|| pc|s3|nt|athene: here he is always going to play king then ace of spades so can only pick up four with rodwell, so that doesn't really apply|pg|| nt|athene: but it doesn't hurt anyway|pg|| nt|pelu: 11 IMP to Bessis from board 2: here NS bid and made 5@D (here 4@h-1 by EW)|pg|| nt|Walddk4: In the women's final, Turkey are walking all over the mighty Dutch ladies. 51 IMPs up! And in the seniors, Grenthe (France) is 50 ahead against Pharon (England/Sweden)|pg|| nt|jbgood: they dont preempt over preempts|pg|| pc|h6|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sK|pc|c3|pc|h8|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dJ|nt|glen: once declarer takes the first 5 tricks here, there is a shortage of more tricks|pg|| nt|psyck: The biggest upset in R32 was Texan Aces (silver & bronze winners in previous Euro opens) defeating Monaco Z (Helgemo, Helness, Balicki, Zmudzinski,...) by a narrow 2 imps after ...|pg|| nt|psyck: trailing by 34 imps in 1st half.|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: weak|pg|| nt|ahollan1: if only we knew which player was on wrong page|pg|| pc|d2|nt|glen: 6 tricks|pg|| pc|d8|pg|| nt|glen: but here it looks like a @H, 3@C, @S and a @D for the defense|pg|| nt|glen: aside from the @S Q|pg|| nt|glen: what the something, the texans (not from texas) won?|pg|| nt|glen: they were getting killed when Z was in|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c7|pc|h3|pc|c4|pg|| nt|jfaria: J @c is only a iluson as an entry|pg|| nt|barnets: west should have ret a heart|pg|| nt|jbgood: looks like it is a sure downer now...|pg|| nt|barnets: but still ok|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: so our final is the most exciting|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o6|st||md|4SAK5HADAT752C8542,SJ4HJ9752DJCQJT63,ST9HKT43DKQ963C97,SQ87632HQ86D84CAK|sv|e|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|daman: hhrrrrrrmmmmm|pg|| pc|hA|nt|royhughes: I'm getting lots of comments about the lead on the last hand -- a heart doesn't help, I think|pg|| nt|daman: NS are gin for 5@D|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|h6|pg|| nt|daman: 3NT as well @Cs block|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s9|pc|s2|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sJ|pc|sT|pc|s3|pg|| nt|royhughes: Michel had a problem over 1S, didn't want to bid 2@d on such a poor suit|pg|| nt|barnets: how about 1n ?|pg|| nt|royhughes: That seems like a good idea|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c3|pc|c7|pc|cK|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s5|pc|h5|nt|barnets: in closed they bid 2@D|pg|| pc|c9|pg|| nt|barnets: and will surely bid game|pg|| nt|barnets: i dont much like 2@D|pg|| pc|cA|nt|royhughes: I guess it depends what partner expects for an overcall; it's a matter of style|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 2@D is ugly... i much prefer your choice barnet|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c6|pc|d3|pg|| pc|h8|pc|c4|mc|7|nt|barnets: 3N in closed|pg|| nt|barnets: a decent contract|pg|| pg|| qx|c6|st||md|4SAK5HADAT752C8542,SJ4HJ9752DJCQJT63,ST9HKT43DKQ963C97,SQ87632HQ86D84CAK|sv|e|nt|rado: but hard to pass with W hand and non vuln vs red|pg|| nt|galadriel: INT making in both rooms - nice teamwork|pg|| nt|jfaria: lol|pg|| nt|glen: that is quite the upset, I would gather that Zimmerman will support my full day KOs approach|pg|| nt|athene: more strong club practice for NS|pg|| nt|bigtrain: we seem to have skipped board 6|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i'm sure it is just an evaluation issue here Smirnov saying he would have bid 3@S over a weak 2@H opener some might not think hand good enough, we don't play dummy as well ...|pg|| nt|ahollan1: either|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: all bbo tables - http://www.bridgebase.com/client/vugraph.php or http://www.bridgebase.com/mobile/|pg|| mb|1S|nt|brotherp: big challenge here: difficult to reach 6@c it seems|pg|| mb|2D|mb|d|nt|jfaria: the only , i guess|pg|| nt|brotherp: big club makes it easier i guess|pg|| nt|ahollan1: Mahaffey 22-1 this set|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg|| mb|2S|an|.|nt|fokal: great job by smirnoff-piekarek to bid and make 5 @d|pg|| mb|p|nt|pelu: 52 IMP after 5 boards - will they break the record from 1 segment?|pg|| mb|3C|nt|galadriel: A @C lead will scupper this contract|pg|| mb|p|nt|brotherp: negative @d ; but that seems overly pessimistic|pg|| nt|jfaria: EW will steal some space i presume|pg|| nt|brotherp: i guess we just let them bid away|pg|| mb|3D|nt|glen: another 1NT|pg|| nt|jfaria: theu did not |pg|| nt|jfaria: did i see Lev bid 1@h?|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: no missclick|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 1@C = 16+ |pg|| nt|bigtrain: 1@D = 0-7, artificial|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|nt|glen: TD has corrected problem, now back to games and slams|pg|| nt|alok_daga: true.on club Q lead will have 2 play hrt 2 ACE,DMND FINNESEE 2 MAKE THE CONTRACT|pg|| nt|jfaria: i?m told S already bid his @c suit|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 1NT = 17-18 balanced|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 2NT a natural raise (believe it or not) :)|pg|| nt|jbgood: i really dont think that is on their mind at all, Peter|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: Smirnov DBL could include a game forcing hand [2@H=negative free bid] he's just 3 aces short of holding that hand|pg|| nt|pelu: in OR S pass over 1@S - and sold out to 2@S|pg|| mb|p|nt|pelu: if max 18 the very optimist 2NT?|pg|| mb|p|nt|glen: declarer will punch out the @S ace|pg|| nt|jfaria: think they r very closee to bidding this one|pg|| nt|brotherp: 2@S might be clubs; and 2NT might be pre-accept with an honor....but then again not knowing their agreements that's just a wild guess|pg|| nt|jfaria: 2@s = @c and now S is describing his shape i'm told|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 2NT is natural invite|pg|| nt|pelu: ok that make sense|pg|| nt|pelu: Michel is a conservativ bidder but pass out 2@S??|pg|| pc|sJ|nt|athene: i believe Meckwell play 2nt response to 1nt opener as asking for a 5-card major, but maybe 1nt on this sequence denies a 5-card major|pg|| nt|bigtrain: excuse me/// noticed 4th seat|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 18-19|pg|| nt|bigtrain: no it doesn't|pg|| nt|ahollan1: if given to Master Solvers' Club which would get more votes for south hand PASS or 2@D?|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: lev: sory Jacek|pg|| pc|s9|nt|brotherp: seems impossible for south to bid 6 ..not holding any ace|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 2@D = 3fit 5-7|pg|| pc|s2|nt|jfaria: a mild slam try by S but that's it|pg|| nt|jfaria: killing lead|pg|| nt|jbgood: club lead in the other room made things sort of easy|pg|| nt|bigtrain: otherwise - big club, little diamond, 1@H = 4+ ORF|pg|| pc|sA|pg|| nt|pelu: the slam in 24 (6@h) bid by 11 out of 26|pg|| nt|rado: declarer will need Opps to touch @D suit to make this otherwise down 1|pg|| nt|pelu: I agree with pass to 1@S but not to 2@s|pg|| pc|hA|nt|pelu: high standard here in the A-swiss|pg|| nt|bigtrain: little diamond = 0-7 artificial|pg|| pc|h2|nt|jfaria: as Anne pointed out|pg|| nt|jfaria: anyway S hand is limited... |pg|| nt|brotherp: goes to show; anyway very nice job by the Danes|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: in open room board 18 - 5S|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: sr 5 d|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: sry|pg|| nt|bigtrain: ORF = one round force|pg|| nt|barnets: so north is worried about a club ruff|pg|| pc|h3|nt|glen: and end with more than enough tricks|pg|| nt|jfaria: but the slow approach from N tells him to bid 6 wd|pg|| pc|h6|pg|| nt|glen: Q. more information. A. tournament site: http://www.poznan2011.pl/ bbo archives: http://www.bridgebase.com/vugraph_archives/vugraph_archives.php|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/osw2t1-1.htm|pg|| nt|glen: (the last link just above is the running scores)|pg|| nt|glen: note the seniors just have walking scores|pg|| nt|ahollan1: he'll take back that apology very soon|pg|| mc|9|nt|pelu: so 7 more for US|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i'm sorry about the apology|pg|| nt|jbgood: some say bridge is a bidder's game. This proves the point - since 5@d always makes|pg|| pg|| qx|o7|st||md|1S84HA75DA972CJ964,SJT92HKT3DKQ54CKQ,S53HJ98642DJ3C875,SAKQ76HQDT86CAT32|sv|b|mb|p|nt|barnets: cold with clubs 4-3 or blockage|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|2N|nt|bigtrain: 14-16|pg|| mb|p|nt|royhughes: Yes, decent contract except that 5@d is a great one|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 2NT = 4+@C GF|pg|| mb|3H|mb|p|nt|bigtrain: 3@H - spade fit with trash for slam|pg|| mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4C|nt|bigtrain: 3@S = Q|pg|| mb|p|nt|bigtrain: 4@C = non-serious Q|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|nt|barnets: here e/w are safe at 5 level|pg|| mb|p|nt|barnets: as cards lie|pg|| nt|bigtrain: sorry the above Q means cue|pg|| mb|p|nt|daman: a pianola hand time to get some juice|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d6|pc|dA|pc|d4|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dK|pc|d3|pc|d8|pg|| nt|bigtrain: i'm kind of surprised that roddy didn't do a bit more with 4 trump and the marriage in the second suit after he went low initially|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|s4|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s8|pc|s9|pc|s5|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c7|st||md|1S84HA75DA972CJ964,SJT92HKT3DKQ54CKQ,S53HJ98642DJ3C875,SAKQ76HQDT86CAT32|sv|b|nt|brotherp: another hand u want if trailing|pg|| nt|jfaria: So the Danes bid game on board 18, not a good game but one that makes :)|pg|| nt|brotherp: opportunities yet again|pg|| nt|athene: when you lead the @SK you are pretty much sure to have KQ or so|pg|| nt|athene: so a defender over you with the ace can duck and he knows it probably won't cost|pg|| nt|barnets: but it could be a singleton|pg|| nt|barnets: easy for us all here to make it|pg|| nt|barnets: seeing 4 hands|pg|| mb|p|nt|galadriel: precision style|pg|| nt|jfaria: precision 2@c|pg|| nt|thenapster: flat 3nt here|pg|| nt|glen: meckwell could very well open this S hand 1NT|pg|| nt|ritong: in the other room, east opened the bidding|pg|| mb|1C|nt|athene: but if the defender under you has the ace he might be a bit more worried|pg|| mb|p|mb|1S|an|.|nt|pelu: so 3 board and 32 IMP :)|pg|| nt|athene: if you had only KQx, say, then it might cost a trick|pg|| nt|ahollan1: multi-purpose, forcing 1@C|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 1@S=7+ hcp, 3+@S|pg|| mb|p|nt|fokal: Thomas was looking for a @s weaker than the 2 but he only had the Jack|pg|| nt|ahollan1: but usually 4+|pg|| mb|2S|nt|glen: it seems that NS use 1NT as a game force relay|pg|| mb|p|nt|fokal: so he had to cash it :)|pg|| mb|2N|an|.|nt|glen: they will ask 84 questions, then reach 3NT|pg|| nt|ritong: making things a bit easier|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 19-20 2NT here|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2N=Puppet 3@C for some short suit game/slam try|pg|| mb|p|nt|psyck: an interesting treatment indeed|pg|| mb|4S|nt|galadriel: 3NT can't make on a @S lead|pg|| nt|jfaria: @s lead.. only count 8 tricks|pg|| nt|galadriel: But after 1NT- 3NT in other room, East led a natural @C|pg|| nt|jfaria: my mac is rather slow today|pg|| nt|jfaria: big swing|pg|| nt|thenapster: so south will show 11-14 with 5332 and north will bid 3nt|pg|| nt|glen: 3NT is interesting, with 8 top tricks|pg|| nt|psyck: doesn't matter here, but we will wait & see if it makes a difference in the coming deals|pg|| nt|glen: specs voting for XX to play here|pg|| nt|psyck: he can simply play @h for 9th trick in 3N on this bidding rather than trying @d|pg|| nt|brotherp: reaching 6@H seems likely now|pg|| nt|ritong: west*|pg|| mb|p|nt|galadriel: This auction gave West the chance to overcall @S|pg|| nt|galadriel: Ah!|pg|| nt|glen: now E is feeling the heat|pg|| nt|psyck: E wondering what the 2@h x was all about|pg|| nt|pelu: Team Bessis have played 2 pairs the hole tournament, Mahaffey are 3 pairs - i would understand if Bissis team tired now|pg|| nt|ahollan1: Smirnov going to game regardless so why bother giving opponents info|pg|| nt|ahollan1: but 2 of Bessis players still in their 20s [i think]|pg|| nt|pelu: even harder for young players - they try to make IMPs on every board :) - but Meck/well prob play almost all boards also|pg|| mb|p|nt|pelu: only 3 top-losers in 4@s but not 10 tricks|pg|| nt|glen: E hunting for a number here|pg|| nt|jfaria: again the slow approach may help E to bid on|pg|| nt|brotherp: 6@H very interesting - after D!A lead u might play for the C!K to be offside - making for a very complicated hand|pg|| nt|brotherp: looks like a possible trump-squeeze ending|pg|| nt|barnets: a spec asks did east really play a low @D with KJ|pg|| mb|p|nt|brotherp: w ending with @s J9 , 1 trump and 2 clubs|pg|| nt|brotherp: e ending with 4 spades and bare c!A|pg|| nt|brotherp: and south being squeezed|pg|| nt|brotherp: lets see|pg|| nt|brotherp: btw sorry for the comments with the ! ---still not completely used to the interface|pg|| nt|jfaria: that would be a line for a jr on a jamed VG :)|pg|| nt|brotherp: east has a very big hand looking at the bidding|pg|| pc|s8|nt|galadriel: now it's ok|pg|| nt|glen: he passes in reasonable tempo to keep his pd's options open|pg|| nt|psyck: S opens @h, they gf, pd surely can't be wanting to penalize 2@h...but E is the one with @h void :)|pg|| nt|barnets: it seems very odd|pg|| nt|barnets: when he had it down 1|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: yes he really played small diamond with KJ|pg|| mc|11|nt|glen: gives up beer card early, never a good idea|pg|| nt|psyck: specs get their wish|pg|| nt|glen: in polish methods, to save beer card, the lead the @D 2|pg|| nt|glen: *they lead|pg|| pg|| qx|o8|st||md|2SQJ9HT3DQT654CAK5,SK7HA7DAKJ872CQJ6,SA654HKQJ9864D3C8,ST832H52D9CT97432|sv|o|mb|2N|nt|bigtrain: 19-20|pg|| nt|bigtrain: i assume he made 6 operator?|pg|| nt|barnets: like it|pg|| mb|3H|mb|p|nt|barnets: 11 tricks in hearts|pg|| nt|royhughes: This is a problem for Michel|pg|| nt|royhughes: You don't usually have game against 2N without a better fit|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|royhughes: However, he might well bid 4 thinking "If partner can bid 3 and I have all this, why not bid 4"|pg|| pc|d9|nt|barnets: ok|pg|| nt|royhughes: well done|pg|| nt|daman: he couldn't afford to pass|pg|| nt|barnets: Lev of course bid 4@H after 1@D opner|pg|| nt|barnets: but I love 2N|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dJ|pc|d3|pg|| nt|barnets: even 20 -21|pg|| nt|barnets: 2N|pg|| pc|dA|pc|hJ|pc|c2|nt|barnets: 4@HX when west x |pg|| pc|d4|pg|| nt|barnets: in closed|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h2|pc|h3|nt|royhughes: Rodwell disguised the fact that he had all the diamonds by returning the ace, not small|pg|| nt|royhughes: To make 11 tricks I think declarer needs to guess the spade suit|pg|| pc|hA|pg|| nt|royhughes: Thomas is likely to guess spades since Rodwell has 6 diamonds|pg|| nt|barnets: dec may make xd overtrick in closed|pg|| pc|d8|pc|h9|pc|c3|pc|d5|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h5|pc|hT|pc|h7|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg|| nt|barnets: that will be 7 more imps|pg|| pc|hK|pc|c4|pc|d6|pc|d7|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s3|pc|s9|pc|s7|pg|| mc|11|nt|barnets: so since the middle of the last set the score is 79 - 1|pg|| nt|barnets: for the USA team|pg|| nt|barnets: quite a turnaround|pg|| nt|vugraphpl5: short break|pg|| nt|royhughes: Is this the first year the European championship has been open to non-Europeans?|pg|| nt|royhughes: I'm told no -- how many years has it been?|pg|| nt|yuval10: since the first time|pg|| nt|yuval10: MECK's has won the pairs event in Menton, 2003|pg|| nt|royhughes: I'm hearing that the teams are open in odd years, and in even years players play for their country to qualify for Bermuda Bowl|pg|| nt|daman: vugraph schedule for future sessions of the Championships http://www.bridgebase.com/vugraph/schedule.php|pg|| nt|yuval10: indeed, this is only the 5th edition of the open championship|pg|| nt|brolucius: After the same start to the bidding, Piganeau passed on the South cards in the Seniors final.|pg|| nt|yuval10: the European-only championship is a lot older of course|pg|| nt|brolucius: A difficult decision for him. M.Bessis did well here.|pg|| nt|royhughes: Yes indeed. 2NT can be an effective preempt|pg|| nt|barnets: the closed european championships is a long event with a lot of very strong teams|pg|| nt|royhughes: So Europe's entries to this year's BB were decided in last year's Europeans?|pg|| nt|yuval10: indeed|pg|| nt|barnets: yes thats correct|pg|| nt|barnets: the first one I played was in 1977|pg|| nt|royhughes: and you played for?|pg|| nt|barnets: with Michael rosenberg|pg|| nt|barnets: as partner|pg|| nt|barnets: UK|pg|| nt|barnets: team|pg|| nt|henryb: Michael was 10 and Barnet 13|pg|| nt|barnets: he left for USA right after :)|pg|| nt|barnets: last was in 1993 in menton|pg|| nt|barnets: then i moved to USA|pg|| pg|| qx|c8|st||md|2SQJ9HT3DQT654CAK5,SK7HA7DAKJ872CQJ6,SA654HKQJ9864D3C8,ST832H52D9CT97432|sv|o|nt|brotherp: in fact looking at it a spade or a club or a heart - well spotted - breaks the squeeze (blush)|pg|| nt|brotherp: only d-d makes the squeeze work|pg|| nt|jfaria: y|pg|| nt|ahollan1: another push -- how'd that happen|pg|| mb|1D|nt|pelu: 800 if !§H10 - but only a diff of 2IMP|pg|| mb|4H|nt|psyck: may end with more doubles/redoubles than other bids other room|pg|| nt|thenapster: wow..3dx in open room|pg|| mb|p|nt|rado: easy 3NT for NS10-11 tricks|pg|| nt|thenapster: looks like 1400|pg|| nt|brotherp: ok; so the Danes in the open room play this crazy club system and end up in 6@H in the East hand...|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 2NT = 19-20|pg|| mb|p|nt|alok_daga: 2dmnds=?in their methods|pg|| nt|brotherp: dreaming|pg|| mb|d|nt|psyck: A lot of action for a mere 4 imps|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i thought Smirnov might treat his hand as too good for 1@D|pg|| mb|p|nt|glen: but lots of fun when scoring, +1240 in a loud voice, lose 4|pg|| nt|pelu: not so easy to bid 6@H in OR after Multi 2@D opening in W|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 2@C = 6+@C 10-15|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 2@S = NF|pg|| nt|barnets: 3N is a lucky make here e/w|pg|| mb|p|nt|fabsayc: a mystery :)|pg|| mb|p|nt|jfaria: "nt must have a meaning |pg|| nt|galadriel: EW did very well to reach 6@H next door|pg|| nt|jfaria: 2|pg|| nt|galadriel: let's see if they can reach slam here|pg|| pc|d9|nt|glen: aggressive 3@D here|pg|| nt|pelu: I have just looked up Mech/well has played all segments in KO|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 18 HCP is the absolute max with a 1-suited hand|pg|| pc|dT|nt|rado: seems lie Wylkos 2@D 5M5+ unknown|pg|| nt|rado: *like|pg|| nt|rado: for Sure E tryes to attak in partner's long Major|pg|| nt|alok_daga: seems xxle=bid your next suit,thus 2dmnds=dmnds+another.cant think of anything else|pg|| nt|glen: 11 high card points, game unlikely|pg|| nt|brotherp: smooting lead for declarer|pg|| nt|pelu: a very lucky layout for EW - when @HQJ drop there are 11 tricks for EW in @d|pg|| nt|ritong: unexpected|pg|| nt|ahollan1: that's usually true for meckwell|pg|| pc|dJ|nt|barnets: this could make|pg|| pc|d3|pg|| nt|brotherp: kind of hands and leads u want being ahead|pg|| nt|jfaria: hugly cards in Lev's hand, but good position of K @S still a hope|pg|| nt|jbgood: points - but not tricks...|pg|| nt|ahollan1: even when playing on nickell team|pg|| nt|jbgood: (unlikely) spade guess for the overtrick|pg|| pc|d7|nt|rado: maybe our kibs from Netherlands will help?|pg|| nt|psyck: OK, now I understand what Lotan meant when he said we can expect some aggresion by NS|pg|| nt|brotherp: not finessing risky with @d 6-2|pg|| nt|jfaria: think E is in control|pg|| nt|brotherp: wonder if he can read @d 4-lead|pg|| nt|bigtrain: trick slams are the toughest to bid|pg|| nt|fokal: oups|pg|| pc|h8|nt|jfaria: at this time i guess E already knows about W @h |pg|| nt|galadriel: strong @C auctions are very useful in these hands as they allow lots of room for exploration|pg|| nt|jfaria: indeed|pg|| nt|athene: maybe if Rodwell had bid 4@C or 4@H over 3NT (good hand for spades) they might get there|pg|| nt|bigtrain: he's not good enough for 4@C but he could make the bid if he had a better hand|pg|| nt|jbgood: everything friendly here, so will make them all|pg|| nt|fokal: does 3 @s shows support ?|pg|| nt|athene: if he would super-accept 3@H with most 4-card support then i think he is really max for spades|pg|| nt|jbgood: or "may" perhaps more correct|pg|| nt|fokal: and 2NT is 20-21 ?|pg|| nt|athene: if you just count points he only nas 19 but really that is not your average 19 count|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 19-20|pg|| nt|fokal: ok|pg|| nt|jbgood: kibs suggest 4@c over 3 NT... N's hand very suitbale|pg|| nt|fokal: in that case he is maximum indeed|pg|| nt|pelu: only 4@H in OR so 13 more|pg|| pc|c2|pc|d4|pg|| nt|jfaria: with no oposition i guess they will reach 6|pg|| nt|galadriel: the @H10 is a big card :)|pg|| nt|jbgood: think it will - he cannot play S for 5 hearts?|pg|| pc|h4|nt|jfaria: better in @h, any imp may become precious|pg|| pc|h2|nt|galadriel: Indeed|pg|| nt|athene: ona 4-1 spade break you might still survive in slam even on a diamond lead - need @CK onside and the four trumps to have 3 hearts|pg|| nt|pelu: 45 IMP after 4 boards - that only prove, that also top-players make mistakes - and it has been some difficult board|pg|| nt|athene: then you can get both of south's diamonds away in time|pg|| nt|athene: the key to slam being so good is having two long suits to run, and a 4@C cue would not show that, but if he could bid 4@H showing a trick source and a big hand for spades...that ...|pg|| nt|athene: might do the job|pg|| nt|barnets: must guess hearts|pg|| pc|hT|nt|glen: 3NT in the other room is one of those few 3NT contracts where there are 8 tricks, but almost no hope of 9|pg|| pc|hA|pg|| nt|pelu: and the 2 other pairs 1 half in every round |pg|| nt|ahollan1: i think most impressive endurance is shown by commentators -- much harder than at the table where you sometimes get to relax as dummy [heavy sarcasm]|pg|| nt|ahollan1: the other room 4@H undoubled after Rodwell opened 2N=19-20|pg|| nt|jbgood: kib asks if W can play the spade king now - sure he can! Must be his best chance for setting the contract to find prd with the ace...|pg|| pc|sK|nt|athene: but then of course south would be worried about the @CAK :)|pg|| mc|11|nt|galadriel: well done|pg|| nt|jfaria: no swing in sight|pg|| nt|jfaria: correction, can make 7|pg|| nt|galadriel: They had one more round of bidding here|pg|| nt|jfaria: just guessing, but after the happy finding of K@h declarer will play for a split in the reds missing|pg|| nt|brotherp: luckily everything works|pg|| nt|fokal: agreed athene|pg|| pg|| qx|o9|st||md|3S92H65DAKT8C75432,S653HA83DQJ753CJ6,SAKQJ8HQ7D62CKT98,ST74HKJT942D94CAQ|sv|e|mb|1S|nt|royhughes: Does Scotland get its own team now in Europeans?|pg|| nt|barnets: yes it does|pg|| mb|2H|mb|d|mb|3H|nt|royhughes: Who bids on Thomas's cards here?|pg|| mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d9|nt|royhughes: Declarer doesn't know trumps are 3-3, so will be a little worried that he can't establish and cash the clubs|pg|| nt|barnets: he may have a trump guess later|pg|| nt|bigtrain: wow... west sure took the low road in the CR|pg|| nt|barnets: if west plays a thrid diamond|pg|| nt|barnets: @D @C @D @C @HA @DQ|pg|| nt|royhughes: Yes, he won't know if spade 10 is onside or falling|pg|| nt|bigtrain: i understand the initial pass (although i would) but to not balance 3@H seems unusal|pg|| nt|bigtrain: (although i would bid)|pg|| nt|royhughes: The absence of top heart lead will suggest to declarer that the ace of clubs is surely wrong|pg|| nt|barnets: the USA 4 playing are very tough match players and Meckwell have a string of success in long close matches|pg|| nt|barnets: stamina is important in a long competition|pg|| nt|royhughes: A kibitzer pointed out that after winning the diamond, losing a club and getting a 2nd diamond, declarer will probably draw trump before playing another club|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d2|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|s4|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s7|pc|s9|pc|s5|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sT|pc|h5|pc|s6|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d4|pc|dK|pc|d5|pg|| nt|royhughes: Well, declarer played trumps right away, so he will be fine|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c6|pc|cT|pc|cQ|pg|| nt|royhughes: A 4-2 break would have been deadly, because he would then be tapped in hearts|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h6|pc|hA|pc|h7|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|c3|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|cJ|pc|c8|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c9|st||md|3S92H65DAKT8C75432,S653HA83DQJ753CJ6,SAKQJ8HQ7D62CKT98,ST74HKJT942D94CAQ|sv|e|nt|glen: if W had SK, instead of @SQ, and @Hs still blocked, 9 tricks|pg|| nt|jfaria: another possible big swing|pg|| nt|fokal: actually, it might be better to bid that directly on 3 @h |pg|| nt|athene: well, 2NT opener is well-known to be a bit of a slam killer|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 1@D = 2+ |pg|| mb|1S|mb|2H|nt|barnets: e/w are doing everything right|pg|| mb|d|nt|galadriel: Wow - EW have a huge board in open room|pg|| nt|glen: i surprised that roland has not taught this NS Flannery|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: Mahaffey set 35-1 with the way they ended 2nd set i'm told this is 79-1 over last 13 boards|pg|| mb|3C|nt|glen: this was a tough choice for E in the other room - if NS are playing a modern style, bidding without high card points, then EW may have game|pg|| nt|alok_daga: guess the color of the brd prevented east from entering the auction|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: all bbo tables- http://www.bridgebase.com/mobile/|pg|| nt|psyck: I'm sure he has, & hence this opening :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|glen: i can safely say that since walddk95 is not watching this table|pg|| nt|glen: 2NT will be a raise here, likely game invite values|pg|| nt|glen: 3@H will show some shape, but not much in extra values|pg|| nt|psyck: Watching or not, the F******* word is still banned in the commentators enchiridion.|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 2@H = 11-13 BAL|pg|| mb|p|nt|glen: if S had opened F******** N would know of double fit|pg|| nt|brotherp: looking at it u really dont wanna go any higher|pg|| nt|jbgood: apart from doubling 2@s - a board that was lost heavily anyhow...|pg|| pc|d4|nt|pelu: 2@H overcall (alomst) OK - but why did East bid on in CR? - and here??|pg|| nt|jfaria: NS misplayed and 9@c provided a @d discard in open|pg|| nt|brotherp: if declarer is a (very good) guess he might even make|pg|| nt|ritong: you crow, barnet|pg|| pc|dA|nt|bigtrain: 2@S = transfer to 2NT|pg|| pc|d3|nt|rado: nice stop by NS|pg|| nt|jfaria: maybe another double game swing?|pg|| pc|d6|pg|| nt|psyck: maybe N could try 2@s on 2@d, has to have @h fit for that bid with passed hand|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s6|nt|galadriel: if he guesses the @H|pg|| pc|sA|nt|jfaria: W x but E has lenght in @s ...|pg|| nt|galadriel: Unlikely to get it right|pg|| nt|jbgood: difficult to find the @h lead|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 2@D was a one round force|pg|| nt|pelu: ok 8 toptricks - better played by S (@hJ in dummy) - if u need u can finess in @c|pg|| nt|jbgood: not that it would have mattered much|pg|| nt|athene: he can make 12 now can't he? concede the @SA then squeeze west in hearts and clubs|pg|| pc|s4|pg|| pc|sK|nt|pelu: just to penalyse partner - u cant exoect that u can make game - so pass to 2@H - only game on Thankgivingsday and Christmas :)|pg|| nt|bigtrain: natural usually 5+@D|pg|| pc|s7|nt|alok_daga: prediction proved wrong,4clubs=+6 IMPS|pg|| nt|jfaria: who has a short in @h?|pg|| nt|athene: if east ducks the @SA to avoid rectifying the count you can strip squeeze west the same|pg|| pc|s9|nt|alok_daga: XXLEDUMMY West gets thrown in,forced 2 play dmnds.whether declarer takes that line or not is different|pg|| nt|rado: K@C and Q@D now|pg|| nt|rado: with 52 cards:) |pg|| nt|ahollan1: ok the REAL endurance test is Vugraph Operator [no joke this time]|pg|| pc|s3|pg|| nt|rado: but declarer probably will play A@D to keep entries to Dummy|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|pelu: agre, Glen?|pg|| nt|jfaria: if any|pg|| pc|sT|pc|h5|pc|s5|pg|| nt|brotherp: if he's a poor guess it's 1 off - 2 spades, 2 clubs, 1 heart and 1 diamond|pg|| nt|jfaria: strong Meckwell @c didnt help finding @c slam|pg|| nt|jfaria: Rodwell opened a systematic 2nt, no room left|pg|| nt|brotherp: match tightening up then|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: 12 for denmark|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: in 20. board|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|d9|nt|jfaria: got it right|pg|| nt|galadriel: A likely 12 imps to Vito|pg|| nt|fokal: not anymore|pg|| nt|fokal: @c now :)|pg|| nt|bigtrain: from south's prespective he wanted to protect N's @S holding|pg|| pc|h6|nt|pelu: @H also break squeze|pg|| nt|fokal: operator ?|pg|| nt|pelu: first flat board : B5 :)|pg|| pc|c6|pg|| pc|d5|nt|galadriel: Oh - even more|pg|| pc|d2|pc|h2|nt|barnets: great result here e/w in open|pg|| pc|d8|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: sry 13|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cJ|pc|c8|pc|cQ|pg|| nt|ritong: well, lev is overaggressive on every occasion, it is normal that he hits now and then|pg|| nt|ritong: he also accorded -1100, for example|pg|| nt|bigtrain: have to leave now sorry|pg|| nt|pelu: after 24 boards : Bessis 120-62|pg|| mc|10|nt|glen: i think if it depends on the NS actually, if meckwell bid 1@S-p-1NT, they may have 10 points and we have 30|pg|| pg|| qx|o10|st||md|4S854H64DQJ42CAQ87,SQJ73HAKJ85DA7C54,ST962HQ9732D8CKJ6,SAKHTDKT9653CT932|sv|b|nt|royhughes: Declarer would have also been concerned about a stiff diamond|pg|| nt|barnets: the French - German team are only 4 handed also|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 1@D = 2+|pg|| mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|nt|bigtrain: 2@D = 6+|pg|| mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2S!|nt|bigtrain: 2@S = artificial GF|pg|| mb|p|nt|bigtrain: 3@C = natural|pg|| mb|3C|nt|bigtrain: exactly 4@C|pg|| mb|p|nt|bigtrain: 3NT i guess|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|yuval10: if N leads @h or small @c it's making|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hT|nt|royhughes: unlucky lead|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h5|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|s2|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s5|pc|s7|pc|s6|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d2|nt|royhughes: Everything going US way|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d8|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s9|pc|d5|pc|s8|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sT|pc|d6|pc|c7|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|d9|pc|h6|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h7|pc|c9|pc|c8|pg|| pc|d7|mc|9|pg|| qx|c10|st||md|4S854H64DQJ42CAQ87,SQJ73HAKJ85DA7C54,ST962HQ9732D8CKJ6,SAKHTDKT9653CT932|sv|b|nt|brotherp: strange claim|pg|| nt|jbgood: 44 imps turned over after 4 boards:) (and 5)|pg|| mb|3D|nt|fokal: 10 tricks doesn't seem possible|pg|| nt|jbgood: Peter - it looks like we are to see another combinded century this half too...|pg|| mb|p|nt|jbgood: combined:)|pg|| mb|p|nt|vugraphpl8: maybe|pg|| mb|p|nt|vugraphpl8: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/or32runda1.html|pg|| pc|h6|nt|fokal: don't|pg|| pc|hA|nt|pelu: if decl play @D10 out of hand only down 1|pg|| nt|pelu: N is endplayed|pg|| nt|pelu: fore sure 11 tricks|pg|| pc|h2|nt|glen: operators trained to entry two bids at a time, here W passed quickly, N thought|pg|| nt|galadriel: These high level decisions are so difficult - and can be soo costly|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/or321t7-2.htm|pg|| nt|jfaria: we all know that :(|pg|| nt|ritong: a super rare auction|pg|| nt|pelu: 9 boards - 82 IMPs - I hope that there are no children here - too much blood :)|pg|| nt|barnets: and this will make|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: w said that s passed because he wanted to go to bathroom|pg|| nt|barnets: nice pass|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: * s went to bathroom|pg|| pc|hT|pg|| nt|barnets: south will put down 6 trump tricks|pg|| nt|barnets: in dummy|pg|| nt|ritong: if rod guesses right|pg|| nt|jbgood: did 2@h show spades & diamonds? or could he have a club side?|pg|| nt|pelu: kibs tells me: "parental control" on this match :)|pg|| nt|barnets: only lead to give dec a guess|pg|| nt|ritong: oui|pg|| nt|barnets: which trump to play|pg|| nt|ahollan1: for some reason the other room is still on 8 and they finished bidding it before our table|pg|| nt|pelu: @D to K @SAK, @D to A and easy 9 tricks|pg|| pc|s7|nt|glen: the @H lead sets up 4@S, 2@H and 1@D|pg|| nt|psyck: those who open 1@c with 44 in minors have an outside chance to get to 2@c here|pg|| nt|glen: before declarer can set up his 7 tricks|pg|| nt|fokal: ok corrected|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: bad claim|pg|| pc|s6|nt|jfaria: more imps coming 4 NS|pg|| pc|sK|nt|galadriel: Even the experts get them wrong sometimes, which is a great comfort to allof us :)|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: sry|pg|| pc|s4|pg|| nt|pelu: ok last board - tx to my fellow commentators - an to a group of very active kibs :), and spec tx to the polish IT-operators who are doing an outstanding job - and finaly to out ...|pg|| nt|pelu: ecelent operator at the table|pg|| pc|sA|nt|glen: the problem for N is that he did not show a great 14 high card point hand with 2NT|pg|| nt|pelu: np - u are doing fine|pg|| pc|s5|nt|brotherp: difficult to beat|pg|| nt|brotherp: how about the !J lead (ducked) :>|pg|| nt|brotherp: @S-J that is|pg|| pc|s3|nt|brotherp: d! suit nicely divided for declarer|pg|| nt|brotherp: @d-suit|pg|| pc|s2|pg|| nt|fokal: yes, thx|pg|| nt|fokal: N has to play @cs till he still have the @d stopper|pg|| nt|athene: it might look obvious to us to set up the clubs with a diamond entry|pg|| nt|bigtrain: but he has to play a small @C now|pg|| nt|athene: but rodwell may be worried that declarer has @CJ9xxx|pg|| nt|fokal: and I'd say that for his point of view, it's quite clear|pg|| nt|bigtrain: to keep an entry|pg|| nt|fokal: I'm guessing he is hesitating betwenn K of @c and small @c|pg|| nt|bigtrain: that is if declarer can devine the @HQ is doubleton|pg|| nt|fokal: true athene|pg|| nt|fokal: though I don't know meckwell way of signaling|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 10 is attitude here|pg|| nt|bigtrain: rev attitude that is|pg|| nt|fokal: so it can be from 10x|pg|| nt|bigtrain: y|pg|| nt|fokal: it usually is from 10x actually|pg|| nt|pelu: then better lead @CK (for count)|pg|| nt|fokal: hum|pg|| nt|athene: @C10 is consistent with @C10x so not at all obvious to rodwell that he can set up the clubs|pg|| nt|fokal: are you sure the 10 doesn't show the 9 on the Q lead ?|pg|| pc|dK|nt|fokal: (which can be from QJ ?)|pg|| pc|d2|nt|brotherp: so 8 tricks will be there now..lets see if pepsi can work some magic|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d8|pg|| nt|glen: those who open 1@C and are not playing 2+ etc,|pg|| nt|psyck: right, which is why i said outside chance only|pg|| nt|glen: now it looks like NS will cash out, since playing @Cs would not be right|pg|| nt|glen: however sometimes the defense thinks 1NT always has 2-3@S for 1NT|pg|| nt|pelu: I am told that by NS Q ask for count, and K for suit preference|pg|| pc|d3|nt|pelu: easy 8 trick - 2 @S ruff and just wait (need to take @HK also|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dA|pc|h3|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg|| nt|pelu: disc @DK|pg|| nt|ahollan1: ahhhh smoke break that makes more sense|pg|| pc|sJ|nt|ritong: we all see that declarer has potentially 6 trumps and two aces however, if east has underled @h J, there is a choice to make, on the lead and perhaps later|pg|| pc|s9|nt|vugraphpl8: bye|pg|| nt|pelu: but after a free bid by Jansma he could try once more|pg|| nt|glen: Balicki, with N hand for Monaco/Poland, overcalled 1@H and later bid @Ds|pg|| nt|fokal: ok now declarer can make it if he set us @s and guess the q of @h|pg|| nt|ritong: @hJ10|pg|| pc|c2|pc|s8|pg|| nt|galadriel: Well I have alot of sympathy with David Bakshi ( South in other room) for upgrading this hand|pg|| nt|glen: running scores: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/or16runda1.html|pg|| nt|fokal: ok to late for setting up the @s :)|pg|| pc|hK|nt|bigtrain: absolutely because the Q shows either QJx (less than 4) or KQx(x) or AQJ(x) or AKQx(x)|pg|| pc|h7|pc|c3|pc|h4|pg|| nt|brotherp: we can all see that it's easy now: just play north for the @s-king|pg|| nt|brotherp: but pepsi might be inclined to place @S-king in the south-hand|pg|| nt|jfaria: and play 4 athrow in?|pg|| nt|brotherp: and then there are some funny throw-in squeeze kind of positions|pg|| nt|brotherp: yup|pg|| nt|jfaria: lets see|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|pelu: if J10 of Qhs in East S cant make, så prob he will play for aytual layout|pg|| pc|sT|nt|brotherp: and he even might look at the @s 2 as a funny discard|pg|| nt|brotherp: i see; that's more logical (@h 8 discard)|pg|| nt|brotherp: askgaard guessing for @c J9 or @S q now|pg|| nt|dburn: weird sort of position, this|pg|| nt|jfaria: if N plays a @s Pepesi must put the king|pg|| nt|dburn: even @cJ9 won't help him|pg|| nt|brotherp: and he can see @H 8 discard was more or less forced and not lavinthalish|pg|| nt|brotherp: depends on where pepsi places the @S K|pg|| pc|c9|nt|brotherp: but would north not play a spade if he didnt hold the king....|pg|| nt|ritong: well, if i decide that east has @h J0, i play the 9 on the lead and claim|pg|| pc|dJ|pg|| nt|bigtrain: with QJxx he would lead the J|pg|| nt|fokal: oh ok|pg|| nt|bigtrain: not true... Q gets attitude|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|pelu: I would need notes at the table :)|pg|| pc|c4|nt|pelu: or can he?|pg|| pc|c6|pc|d5|pg|| nt|glen: we don't have the beer garden scores in yet|pg|| nt|chessmaste: Not allowed|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c5|nt|jfaria: I mean, if N plays a @s he must have the king for Pepsi win|pg|| pc|cJ|nt|galadriel: (Ithink) he showed 18-19|pg|| nt|jfaria: so u must play him for holding the K|pg|| pc|cT|pg|| mc|10|nt|brotherp: y.. but then if he doesnt play a spade it does suggest the king|pg|| nt|brotherp: windows behind windows|pg|| nt|jfaria: my point :)|pg|| nt|jfaria: lol|pg|| nt|dburn: how will declarer make the contract, if South has the king of spades?|pg|| nt|brotherp: really nice poker hand -- the 'same-ness' between poker and bridge cant be stressed enough|pg|| nt|brotherp: cross with the club and play the heart|pg|| nt|dburn: indeed - but if that would work. North would have played a spade, not a club|pg|| nt|brotherp: we discussed that.. but north might be holding uncomfortable holdings like Jxxxx|pg|| nt|brotherp: so he wouldnt 'always' play a spade without the king|pg|| nt|brotherp: they might all feel like this will be the match-clincher|pg|| nt|brotherp: 5 more boards to go in a tight match|pg|| pg|| qx|o11|st||md|1SAJHAK84DKQ965C32,SK64HT92DAJ2CA754,SQ97HQJ7653DT43CQ,ST8532HD87CKJT986|sv|o|nt|royhughes: I got a lot of votes for a spade lead on the last deal|pg|| nt|daman: the fat lady is in the hallway doing her scales just in case|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|3C|nt|royhughes: What does Meckstroth do here?|pg|| mb|3H|nt|fokal: in 4 @h O has to underlead his A of @c at some point to get the @s switch|pg|| nt|fokal: w|pg|| mb|5C|mb|p|mb|p|nt|royhughes: Thomas decides to let them play|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|royhughes: Good decision by NS; I think they would have gone down in 5@h|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d7|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|c2|pg|| nt|barnets: I dont like the 6@C bid in the closed room|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|s4|nt|barnets: when the opps are at the 5 level|pg|| pc|s7|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|d8|pg|| nt|barnets: and you dont know what your partner has|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|nt|daman: the 5 level belongs to the opps|pg|| pc|h3|pc|c6|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c3|pc|c5|pc|h5|pg|| nt|fokal: he had absolutly no defensive tricks|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c11|st||md|1SAJHAK84DKQ965C32,SK64HT92DAJ2CA754,SQ97HQJ7653DT43CQ,ST8532HD87CKJT986|sv|o|nt|galadriel: But it got his side to an unmakable game|pg|| nt|jfaria: my sympathy goes with yours Anne|pg|| nt|psyck: Rodwell opens N's 10 pointer in deal 9 & so they had no problem getting to 4@h|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/or161t3-1.htm|pg|| nt|glen: not sure what happened there, but it is recorded as making|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: Lev forgot system|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: td|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: 2H should be transfer on spades and this is a problem|pg|| nt|ahollan1: that was NOT an endorsement for smoking [i only believe in smoking salmon]|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: running scores - http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/ofrunda1.html|pg|| mb|1N|nt|jfaria: there seems to be a problem with Lev's system. Operator can tell exactly what it is|pg|| mb|p|nt|fabsayc: we hit those light openings so hard they were intimidated to open :)|pg|| nt|psyck: Michal, pls correct to 1NE-1|pg|| nt|glen: its tough when the almost seniors bid more than the young ones|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg|| mb|2D|mb|3C|nt|glen: now there's a young 1@S opening|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: sry|pg|| nt|pelu: still only 199 IMPs we have to wait for the 2. century|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 3@D as a super-accept??|pg|| mb|4H|mb|5C|nt|ahollan1: or 4@H :)|pg|| mb|5H|nt|vugraphpl8: I told that Lev forgot that 2H was transfer on spades|pg|| mb|6C|nt|psyck: np, u r doing fine|pg|| nt|pelu: pl undo |pg|| nt|jbgood: the old saying about the 5 - level appropriate still|pg|| mb|p|nt|bigtrain: 2NT is takeout|pg|| nt|barnets: bid 3@S ?|pg|| nt|barnets: east 3@S|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: well EW were better than par for a brief moment there|pg|| mb|p|pc|dK|nt|pelu: after 3@C as basic rule: part decide|pg|| pc|dA|nt|rado: another quiet board now|pg|| nt|jfaria: so it looks that the result of board 24 is in dispute|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: yes |pg|| pc|d3|nt|fabsayc: the ninth trick on the lead|pg|| nt|psyck: well, the 3rd seat opening may have kept them out of slam, not sure if they'd get higher uncontested though|pg|| pc|d7|pg|| nt|jfaria: nothing special on this one, G/T runnig out of hope|pg|| nt|glen: anybody for 6@H?|pg|| nt|psyck: W may have needed to open for EW to bid slam|pg|| nt|glen: some specs vote for 7@H on the layout|pg|| nt|jbgood: 2 @s would have been easy - 3 a bit more challenging, but ...|pg|| pc|c4|nt|jfaria: that will add some drama to final boards|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|jbgood: i think the spade lead ducked was a defensive winner|pg|| nt|ahollan1: yep let opponents make the last guess|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c2|pg|| nt|alok_daga: how gud can this nt be?QJ tight in 1 suit,1 suit barren.agreed 1cl 1sp response presents problems but 1nt?|pg|| nt|athene: in theory declarer has four spades, four diamonds and the @HA but he can never untangle all four diamonds|pg|| pc|d8|nt|jbgood: I bet he would have done that earlier in the day...|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|bigtrain: hard to see how he will make this|pg|| nt|athene: surely that was ace and another trump|pg|| pc|d2|nt|athene: small trump gives declarer TWO tricks - he can play three rounds of diamonds then ruff a heart and play the thirteenth diamond :)|pg|| pc|d4|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i'm looking forward to seeing what Meckstroth does with the East hand|pg|| nt|pelu: so down 2 for Ns or down 2 for EW - this board is typical for this last segment|pg|| pc|hK|nt|rado: will will make 10 since W cannot lead 2nd @H now|pg|| nt|alok_daga: the steamroller at work,22 IMPS lead|pg|| nt|alok_daga: 21|pg|| nt|brotherp: got to go for a moment; sorry all, its up to you Joao\|pg|| nt|brotherp: thanks|pg|| nt|jfaria: thx |pg|| pc|h2|nt|pelu: its a very hard job as operator 6-7 hours every day - they do a outstanding job - tx |pg|| pc|h3|nt|athene: for an overtrick|pg|| pc|c6|pg|| nt|jbgood: that looks like it|pg|| pc|c8|nt|ritong: sure|pg|| pc|c3|nt|athene: ace and a trump = one down|pg|| pc|cA|pc|dT|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|h5|nt|pelu: perfect lead from Rodwell|pg|| pc|s2|pc|d5|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h6|nt|pelu: but for sure Smirniv dont love his partners bidding|pg|| pc|cT|nt|jfaria: now E can split, S lacks an netry to colect 5@s|pg|| pc|h4|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s7|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|s9|pc|s5|pg|| nt|jbgood: takes a small club lead from W to take it 2 down though|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sQ|pc|s8|pc|d6|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o12|st||md|2ST95HQJ5DK742CJT3,SQ7HK9743D653CKQ6,SAK8HT862DQ9CA985,SJ6432HADAJT8C742|sv|n|nt|daman: on this hand a breathless push|pg|| nt|barnets: so his partner could have a bunch |pg|| nt|barnets: that is one and if he didnt have any they could make 6|pg|| mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|barnets: just my opinion of course|pg|| nt|fokal: but yeah he might push them to a winning slam|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c2|pg|| nt|royhughes: club lead is a good start|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c4|pc|cT|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d9|pc|dJ|pc|dK|pg|| nt|daman: N is cursed with the Q9 of @D|pg|| nt|fokal: a 4th round of @c might do the job, no ?|pg|| nt|daman: but it might work out for him in the endgame|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|hA|pg|| nt|yuval10: the def. in the CR played Q@d in trick 2, declarer then had the time to unblock the @h|pg|| nt|fokal: well E is stuck in hand|pg|| nt|yuval10: seem like the def. here is more challenging|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d5|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c3|pc|c6|pc|c8|pg|| nt|daman: nice|pg|| nt|fokal: AK of @s a @c|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s2|nt|fokal: ?|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s7|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s9|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|c9|nt|royhughes: Well said, and done!|pg|| nt|fokal: well done|pg|| nt|daman: yes|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|h5|pc|h4|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sT|pc|h7|pc|s8|pg|| nt|daman: cutting his losses|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|c12|st||md|2ST95HQJ5DK742CJT3,SQ7HK9743D653CKQ6,SAK8HT862DQ9CA985,SJ6432HADAJT8C742|sv|n|nt|athene: the bidding did strongly suggest a trump lead|pg|| nt|barnets: 2 imps|pg|| nt|jbgood: for a misdef next door|pg|| nt|pelu: wow 2. century - 201 IMP|pg|| nt|barnets: north bid too much here for sure|pg|| nt|jbgood: but downer in is still better than downers out|pg|| mb|p|nt|rado: 5@S makable for EW now|pg|| mb|1C|nt|glen: interesting 2NT|pg|| mb|1S|nt|glen: a bid underpowered by high card points, but the playing value is certainly 2NT|pg|| nt|psyck: good 5 card @d sequence & a couple more T's...|pg|| nt|ritong: an active double|pg|| nt|ritong: very active|pg|| nt|ahollan1: hcp don't come into play on those high level competitive auctions|pg|| nt|ahollan1: soooo much distribution|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: all bbo tables: http://www.bridgebase.com/mobile/ or http://www.bridgebase.com/client/vugraph.php|pg|| nt|ahollan1: but still at the 6-level the risk of DBL does seem very low|pg|| mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|rado: E will try for Slam for sure|pg|| nt|glen: 3NT=abandon all hope of a major suit fit|pg|| nt|psyck: Only 18.85 KnR points though.|pg|| nt|psyck: they better stay out of grand|pg|| nt|ritong: smirnov will not pass this if it arrives to him at 2@c|pg|| nt|jbgood: strange he didnt bid at once...|pg|| nt|ritong: but will it? it seems that someone wants to bid|pg|| nt|jbgood: at least E hasnt more to offer...|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: I think in 27 board is mistake, in open room they played -2 too.|pg|| mb|2D|nt|rado: maybe 2nd transfer to show slam interest|pg|| nt|thenapster: they will bid only 6|pg|| nt|psyck: for all i know grand may make with @cJ finesse & a major suit squeeze on N though :)|pg|| nt|pelu: they all wont to bid - every time :) - only very few green pass-cards in the box|pg|| nt|barnets: n/s have 9 tricks in clubs|pg|| mb|p|nt|jbgood: sure:)|pg|| mb|2H|nt|galadriel: EW doing their best to keep NS out of game|pg|| nt|ritong: he finally found a green|pg|| mb|p|nt|galadriel: And succeeding!|pg|| nt|galadriel: 10 back|pg|| nt|jfaria: with 2 places to play, and the minor being @d N could double instead|pg|| mb|2S|nt|jbgood: well - Piekarek has more cards than i thought...|pg|| nt|ahollan1: on the opening page of Italian Blue Team Bridge Book Garozzo described a hand where partnership held 5 [FIVE] hcp and grand slam was cold|pg|| mb|p|nt|rado: W has good support so keeps the level low|pg|| nt|alok_daga: dont think they will have2 reach 5 East has expressed all he had 2 say|pg|| nt|thenapster: no sqeeze...south can keep 1098@S|pg|| mb|p|nt|rado: oooops|pg|| mb|p|nt|pelu: as u see they all have 1 bid more :)|pg|| nt|pelu: @C lead and down 1 ?|pg|| pc|cJ|nt|glen: nice squence by E|pg|| pc|cK|nt|fabsayc: i prefer a self splinter of 4@C on second turn|pg|| nt|glen: 4@C gerber, and then 5NT, 6NT as the grand try|pg|| pc|cA|nt|rado: yes always good not to risk 5 lvl, nice bidding from EW here|pg|| nt|fabsayc: perhaps east showed his singleton|pg|| nt|alok_daga: assume 3hrts,3nt meant some sort of shortage|pg|| nt|jfaria: tuff, only 2 boards left |pg|| nt|galadriel: For running scores http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg|| nt|ritong: this contract looks cosy|pg|| pc|c7|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|glen: N nicely goes with a safe lead|pg|| nt|psyck: yes, major suit lead would have saved time for us though|pg|| nt|psyck: They stayed out of slam last deal other room too|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|nt|psyck: so it still remains a relatively low scoring affair with no double digit swings|pg|| nt|jfaria: 3nt in open this may get too close|pg|| pc|d3|pg|| nt|glen: rodwell also opening 1@S to keep it young|pg|| nt|athene: 7@C is a big bid with no trick source|pg|| nt|jbgood: a tall order|pg|| nt|bigtrain: needs trumps 2-2 if trump lead|pg|| nt|athene: sometimes even a nine-card trump fit isn't enough, if that is all you have|pg|| pc|hA|nt|jbgood: and everything falls into place|pg|| nt|athene: lots of specs are saying he does have some spades|pg|| nt|athene: yes, but he knows his partner has a spade void|pg|| nt|fokal: he can win by ruffing 3 @s|pg|| nt|athene: so it will take a fair bit of work to get the spades set up|pg|| nt|bigtrain: but needs trump do to the fact he has only 1 entry|pg|| nt|athene: 4-3 spades and 2-2 trumps means everything is happy of course|pg|| nt|athene: but it's not exactly a laydown grand|pg|| nt|fokal: but it seems he need @cs 2-2|pg|| nt|pelu: some strange results on result page: Board 2 (open) 5@D - 1 on BBO scored as +600, Board 6 bridgemate: only 2Nt +1 not 3Nt making (here i this room)|pg|| nt|bigtrain: could play for both @S onside if he doesn't think trump splits|pg|| nt|athene: there are various options in spades like @SHx with north (ruff one then ruffing finesse)|pg|| nt|athene: or just the double ruffing finesse against south, yes|pg|| nt|bigtrain: i'm offerring an alternative line|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Yesterday, Zia ventured 'Zia's Rule': "Don't lead a trump against a grand slam", he said|pg|| nt|bigtrain: it diesn't work buthe may choose it since the other option is trump 22 and @S 43|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg|| nt|athene: :) well the rule "ALWAYS lead a trump against a grand slam" is definitely a bad one|pg|| nt|bigtrain: or KQx in @S|pg|| nt|athene: but maybe zia has gone too far the other way|pg|| nt|pelu: the rule is: dont lead trump if pd has QJ :)|pg|| nt|jbgood: we can all see everything is nice, but the lead surely looks like a singleton...|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h3|pc|h2|pg|| nt|ritong: 9 on top now|pg|| nt|ritong: 3 trumps 4@ds 1@h 1@s|pg|| nt|pelu: tx for help - |pg|| pc|s2|nt|barnets: match a bit closer now|pg|| nt|ahollan1: on 9 [lev 3@C] T Bessis playing 3@S|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sQ|nt|vugraphpl8: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/or321t7-2.htm|pg|| nt|galadriel: I think the Bulgarians are a young team- some have played for the national open team and some for National Juniors|pg|| nt|galadriel: Maybe a spec can tell me if I'm wrong|pg|| nt|pelu: a 2. @H trick will make the contract|pg|| nt|ritong: perhaps a @d lead would have reduced this to 8|pg|| pc|sK|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dJ|pc|dK|nt|galadriel: Ah, ok this is a Junior pair|pg|| nt|jbgood: may even get 10 now - hearts friendly|pg|| nt|ritong: yes|pg|| pc|d5|pg|| nt|psyck: he doesn't want to run @d's before testing @s as no convenient discards|pg|| pc|d4|nt|ahollan1: that won't be nearly as easy even after non-@H lead|pg|| pc|d6|nt|pelu: 2 x yesterday in slams decl missing QJxx, trumps were 2-2 and both times fines for down 1|pg|| pc|s8|nt|ritong: for that reason, probably the @d lead would not have worked|pg|| pc|d8|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c2|pc|cT|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h6|pc|c4|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s9|pg|| nt|ahollan1: but 3-3 @S means declarer prevails|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o13|st||md|3SK97H864DAJ4CK965,ST54HAJ93DK65CJT7,SAQJ3HKQ52DT32C32,S862HT7DQ987CAQ84|sv|b|nt|royhughes: Yes, Meckstroth guessed trumps 3-3 to keep to one down|pg|| mb|1D|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|nt|royhughes: Here is a standard problem for 5-card major methods|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|royhughes: Bessis's play 2N invitational|pg|| pc|h3|nt|barnets: looks like 8 tricks|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h7|pc|h4|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|cK|nt|royhughes: One would prefer to be in 1NT, but this should be ok as the cards lie|pg|| pc|c7|pg|| pc|h6|nt|royhughes: It was the same auction in the other room|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|hT|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d2|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|s8|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s5|pc|sJ|pc|s2|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s6|pc|s7|pc|sT|pg|| pc|sA|pc|c8|pc|d4|pc|d6|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|daman: undo?|pg|| pc|d7|pc|h8|pc|h9|pg|| nt|royhughes: The Bessis's need more exciting boards than this one|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cQ|pc|c5|pc|cT|pg|| nt|daman: uncle|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c13|st||md|3SK97H864DAJ4CK965,ST54HAJ93DK65CJT7,SAQJ3HKQ52DT32C32,S862HT7DQ987CAQ84|sv|b|nt|galadriel: Maybe just South|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: Only N can be a Junior|pg|| nt|galadriel: My goodness - I got 49 replies all at once!|pg|| nt|galadriel: Thank you everyone :)|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: now w is very proud of 12. board|pg|| nt|ahollan1: Rodwell bid with Smirnov hand, so 3@C was no longer available|pg|| mb|1D|mb|p|nt|pelu: @C back from N kills dummy and prob easy down 1|pg|| mb|2N|nt|athene: will meckstroth double 4@S?|pg|| nt|athene: i think for most people if you bid 4@H then double 4@S it just says you have a good hand for 4@H; not especially with spades|pg|| nt|jbgood: right Henri - was cold from the start|pg|| nt|barnets: run of 27 imps now n/s|pg|| mb|p|nt|vugraphpl8: :)|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/or161t3-2.htm|pg|| nt|brotherp: back|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg|| nt|athene: ok wow - i was expecting double from west|pg|| nt|jbgood: so was I|pg|| mb|p|nt|galadriel: Only South is Junior National|pg|| nt|jfaria: wc b|pg|| mb|p|nt|glen: 4@S here doesn't work since @Hs play for two losers, and @Ds need for @C discards or there is a @C loser|pg|| nt|thenapster: and 3nt from south in heart lead also some problems|pg|| nt|brotherp: still a match it seems|pg|| pc|h3|nt|glen: not sure what 2@C shows, if it did not show @Ds, might get a @D lead|pg|| nt|ahollan1: non-forcing 2N response to 1 of minor is probably my least favorite treatment|pg|| pc|hK|nt|jfaria: what is 3@s |pg|| nt|jfaria: another lsot game|pg|| nt|athene: well he can surely double this :)|pg|| nt|ritong: anyways, as walter underlined, every trip trip starts with one step|pg|| pc|h7|nt|fabsayc: 2@D asks size and spade length by steps|pg|| nt|pelu: kibs tells that they watched 5@d making, so "just" wrong in bridgemate - and we prob have the correct score here on BBO :)|pg|| pc|h6|pg|| nt|brotherp: what happened to the td-board where lev made a bidding error?|pg|| nt|pelu: 8 tricks no problem|pg|| nt|ahollan1: and i recall reading my first Acol book thinking wow - i bet this comes up a lot more than Goren game force|pg|| pc|s3|nt|fokal: too bad , 4S may have won|pg|| nt|athene: a bit unlucky for EW perhaps; sometimes 5@C will work out much the best|pg|| pc|s2|nt|glen: 2@C may be a game force relay bid|pg|| nt|psyck: i thought they play 1N as gf relay :)|pg|| nt|jbgood: i hope you kibs appreciate that i cannot answer all private chats... just too many|pg|| nt|pelu: so 8 IMP - the average is only 7,46|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s4|pg|| nt|glen: that was over 1@H|pg|| nt|psyck: but maybe that is only on 1@h open|pg|| nt|glen: to allow for 2@HXX|pg|| nt|jfaria: still moe if board 24 results in some kind of penalty|pg|| nt|athene: still they can't really complain about their luck too much after the previous board|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h9|nt|psyck: :)|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: running scores - http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/or16runda1.html|pg|| nt|glen: the @D queen is played to hide the location of the @D jack from W|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|ritong: looks like a supplementary favorable board for the trailers|pg|| nt|jbgood: 98 imps changing hand so far this segment - and more here|pg|| pc|hT|pg|| nt|jfaria: in open they r playing 4@d wich can make|pg|| nt|brotherp: 4D seems difficult; while 3@s seems 1 off at least|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s6|nt|psyck: so 2@c gf here & 2N further enquiry maybe|pg|| nt|ritong: good move by joe piekarek|pg|| nt|jbgood: of course 2@d in the OR was not what the audience would have landed in:)|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s5|pg|| nt|ahollan1: no problem this time -- but the Great Shuffler often flips which opponent holds the black aces|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s8|nt|glen: now E can win this, play a @D, and get a @H through dummy|pg|| pc|s9|nt|thenapster: now e-w can attack the clubs|pg|| nt|glen: which has 1@S, 2@H, 1@D and 1@C|pg|| pc|sT|pg|| nt|jfaria: 4@d making in open|pg|| pc|sJ|nt|jbgood: the club ruff takes 4@s down - guess Meck would have found the defense|pg|| pc|c4|nt|vugraphpl8: running scores -http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/ofrunda1.html|pg|| nt|jbgood: but looks as if only 3 imps at stake now - for 1 down|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/ofrunda1.html|pg|| nt|ritong: ty michal|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg|| pc|h8|pc|d6|pg|| pc|h2|nt|psyck: yes, most defensive lines should defeat it|pg|| nt|ahollan1: sorry the round Aces [@C & @H]|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c5|pc|hJ|pg|| nt|ahollan1: nice @D10 partner -- i wouldn't have bid 2N if you hadn't held it|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|d9|nt|brotherp: Lev needs to cover the @c-8 |pg|| pc|c6|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c2|nt|ritong: we are still waiting for the first pushboard in this streetfight|pg|| nt|jbgood: now it is a downer|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: all bbo tables: http://www.bridgebase.com/mobile/ or http://www.bridgebase.com/client/vugraph.php|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c9|pg|| nt|brotherp: for 2 off maybe|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|brotherp: 2 imps for Denmark|pg|| pc|cK|nt|jbgood: kibs ask for down 2 and a push|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c3|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d5|nt|ritong: maybe the board 27 has to be corrected, though|pg|| pc|d2|nt|barnets: push|pg|| pc|d7|pg|| nt|jbgood: in the first 2 sets big swings were in abundance - this set not even one 2 digit swing so far...|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o14|st||md|4S76HA4DKJT8CAJ953,SAQJT9HQDQ42CT872,S8543HKJT87D65CQ6,SK2H96532DA973CK4|sv|o|nt|bigtrain: 1@H = 5+ 10-15|pg|| mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1S|mb|2C|nt|royhughes: NS played in hearts in the other room; Meckstroth's opening picks off that suit|pg|| nt|bigtrain: going low :)|pg|| mb|2S|nt|royhughes: Sorry, thought Meck opened|pg|| mb|3C|nt|daman: can this be the right auction?|pg|| nt|royhughes: I was following the big train, not the real thing|pg|| mb|3S|nt|daman: big train is the real thing|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|royhughes: :)|pg|| mb|4C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|daman: 2@C was rodrigue showing @Hs|pg|| nt|bigtrain: lol... call larry those some law violators playing here|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|barnets: not best contract|pg|| nt|barnets: here|pg|| nt|bigtrain: i am surprised that meck passed|pg|| nt|bigtrain: maybe he senses things are going well|pg|| nt|royhughes: Bessis's must have had misunderstanding or forgot something|pg|| nt|barnets: i think so yes|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|h4|pg|| pc|d5|nt|royhughes: Maybe Michel thought 2@c natural -- still, a bit funny to go to 4|pg|| pc|d3|nt|barnets: E/w see the sinning post|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pg|| nt|barnets: the winning post also|pg|| nt|royhughes: Maybe NS felt in need of points and were hoping to push Meckwell to 4@s|pg|| nt|barnets: well not this way|pg|| nt|royhughes: no indeed|pg|| nt|barnets: it is looking like a first win in the european for a USA team|pg|| nt|daman: West is thinking his pd has 3@Ss|pg|| nt|daman: and S might have stiff King|pg|| nt|barnets: and it is fitting that 2 poles lev and pepsi are playing in Poland|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|s6|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s4|pc|sK|pc|s7|pg|| nt|barnets: so maybe they got some home Karma|pg|| nt|yuval10: i think we can consider Lev as another Israeli winner for this event|pg|| nt|barnets: tri national winner|pg|| nt|barnets: yes|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|c2|pc|h7|pg|| nt|barnets: the man with 3 passports|pg|| nt|bobholl: have they reversed lavinthal again ?|pg|| nt|barnets: and an overdue win for mahaffey who has some great teams|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s5|pc|h9|pc|c3|pg|| nt|barnets: meckwell have such a large trophy cabinet|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d2|pc|d6|pc|dA|pg|| pc|h5|nt|barnets: like roger federer in that advert you see on tv|pg|| nt|bigtrain: they don't play lavinthal... they do play reverse suit preference thoug|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|d4|pc|h8|pg|| pc|dT|pc|c7|pc|cQ|pc|d7|pg|| pc|s8|nt|barnets: I get many messages from specs about various bridge topics|pg|| nt|vugraphpl5: The winner of women teams is Kapadokya|pg|| nt|barnets: congrats|pg|| pc|d9|pc|c5|pc|s9|pg|| nt|hobakan: congrats:)|pg|| nt|daman: we have 4,250 specs at this table it's hard to pay attention to a lot of the comments|pg|| nt|yusufb: CONGRAT KAPADOKYA|pg|| nt|barnets: if you like interesting stories and articles check out www.shenkinbridge.com|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|c6|pc|cK|pg|| pc|d8|nt|royhughes: nice unblock by Meckstroth|pg|| pc|sT|pc|hT|nt|barnets: yes|pg|| pc|c4|pg|| pc|h6|pc|c9|pc|cT|pc|hJ|pg|| nt|royhughes: to avoid getting stuck with a low heart|pg|| pg|| qx|c14|st||md|4S76HA4DKJT8CAJ953,SAQJT9HQDQ42CT872,S8543HKJT87D65CQ6,SK2H96532DA973CK4|sv|o|nt|brotherp: in the round-robin they were the team of destiny - getting from about 40th to 27th (the last qualifying spot) in the last round|pg|| nt|fokal: I think 4 @s makes|pg|| nt|fokal: oin @c lead I play 3 round of @d|pg|| nt|ritong: yes!|pg|| nt|barnets: chance n/s|pg|| mb|p|nt|brotherp: can they do it again?|pg|| nt|jbgood: it took 13 boards to register the first plus:)|pg|| nt|jbgood: as i said that one was entered:)|pg|| mb|1C|nt|jbgood: push|pg|| nt|ahollan1: the other room just started bidding 11 [our 6@C undoubled]|pg|| mb|1S|nt|psyck: Last deal, thanks all, 2nd half in about 1/2 hour.|pg|| mb|d|nt|galadriel: Last board now - |pg|| nt|jfaria: not enough|pg|| nt|thenapster: 2cl for majors of course|pg|| nt|thenapster: e-w can make 5cl|pg|| nt|glen: hopefully S has same agreement|pg|| nt|brotherp: dangerous moment for 3@C...|pg|| nt|pelu: can Ns outbid the frenc here a bid 5@c?|pg|| mb|r|an|strong|nt|vugraphpl8: sry|pg|| nt|jfaria: but still emotion till las board|pg|| nt|brotherp: 5@C seems close now for Askgaard|pg|| mb|p|nt|psyck: @d lead sets up 3 tricks in 5@c?|pg|| nt|glen: i thought they were out of XX cards?|pg|| mb|p|nt|bigtrain: big @C, little @D|pg|| nt|ahollan1: well strong for a passed hand|pg|| mb|2H|nt|galadriel: Many thanks to Michal our VG operator - great job!|pg|| nt|psyck: guess a @d duck enough in 5@c|pg|| nt|jbgood: sry - 3 rounds of @d sees 4@s home - sry|pg|| mb|p|nt|thenapster: A@H is onside...|pg|| nt|thenapster: so only diamond lead have to duck like you said|pg|| nt|pelu: they are in 5@C now|pg|| nt|ritong: over opponent's transfer, bidding their suit can have two meanings, to be decided with your regular pard either two suiter or general take/out|pg|| nt|dburn: or even 4@h - I guess that will make|pg|| nt|ritong: hello david|pg|| nt|pelu: but even 4@h make|pg|| nt|barnets: north gives south choice of games|pg|| mb|p|nt|glen: @D duck is hard on a layout where N might have singleton @D and 1-2@Cs|pg|| nt|brotherp: good lead|pg|| nt|brotherp: and easy 2 off|pg|| nt|brotherp: seems to clinch victory for the mahaffey-guys|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 1@S = 4+ forcing for 1 round|pg|| mb|p|nt|brolucius: A choice of very lucky games...|pg|| nt|jbgood: and game bid narrows the gap further|pg|| pc|sK|nt|jfaria: yeap, regardless of result concerning b 24|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 2@C = 6-7 <4@S|pg|| nt|pelu: 2@S for me is @H + minor, but Meck is not sure|pg|| nt|pelu: B10 3NT - the 9. trick on the lead, but even with neutral lead the defense has to be awake|pg|| pc|s6|nt|bigtrain: 2@S scrambling|pg|| nt|athene: doesn't 2@C deny even 3 spades?|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 2@D that is|pg|| nt|athene: i thought they bid 2@D with 5-7 and 3 spades|pg|| nt|bigtrain: yes... mistyped|pg|| nt|fokal: might be funny if in the other West does what some kib said , doubling 4 @h, and the auction ends up in 4 @hX|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|glen: unless the @D 9 holds|pg|| nt|thenapster: yes|pg|| nt|glen: and the polish @D 3 lead is best|pg|| nt|thenapster: i think after redbl|pg|| nt|thenapster: thats showes same number of cards|pg|| nt|bigtrain: <3... still dark here :)|pg|| pc|s5|pg|| nt|thenapster: we can know that north is 6-5|pg|| nt|glen: last hand of the day for Mahaffey (the player, not the team)|pg|| nt|athene: :)|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Large margins in the other two finals. Women: Turkey + 27 vs the Netherlands, and seniors Grenthe (France) +32 against Pharon (England/Sweden)|pg|| nt|barnets: 5@C is better|pg|| nt|dburn: I expect he is sure - he is just not sure which game will play better|pg|| nt|pelu: a very lucky misunderstanding - strange NS has been partners for many years|pg|| nt|barnets: as it makes with hearts 4-2 and clubs 2-2|pg|| nt|jbgood: since thay cannot attack diamonds repeatedly, the 3-3 split in trumps and 2-2 clubs makes this "easy"|pg|| nt|ritong: are you sure it is a missund, peter?|pg|| nt|ahollan1: on 11 Meckstroth in 5@CX after 1N-P-2@D-3@C//3@H-5@C-P-P//X|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h4|nt|pelu: NL Women missed both slams in Board 3 and 4|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|athene: trump lead looks quite attractive on this auction|pg|| pc|hK|pg|| nt|thenapster: oh...bad play|pg|| nt|athene: north will have a three-suiter short in spades much of the time|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|galadriel: and to Jaoa my fellow commentator :)|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cA|nt|jfaria: thx my inspired coleague operator and fantastic kibs :)|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: and Mahaffey thinks thesame he said: oh f***|pg|| pc|c2|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s2|pg|| nt|thenapster: oops|pg|| nt|ahollan1: that will be a bizarre push|pg|| pc|sJ|nt|galadriel: And to all the wonderful specs for your helpful comments|pg|| pc|s8|nt|glen: oh well, best to put meckwell in the second half just in case|pg|| pc|c4|nt|jfaria: i meant first u Anne :)|pg|| pc|hA|pg|| pc|cJ|nt|galadriel: Sry Joao :)|pg|| pc|c7|nt|bigtrain: 2NT by roddy is natual, shows short @S and usualy not 5@H|pg|| pc|c6|pc|h2|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dK|nt|jfaria: a "," is missing|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: Irens is K.O.|pg|| nt|jfaria: lol|pg|| nt|galadriel: Congratulations Vito :)|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: next match at 15.30|pg|| nt|galadriel: Bye evryone :)|pg|| nt|bigtrain: thus 8+ minors|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d5|pg|| nt|ahollan1: these teams have given us a great show|pg|| pc|dJ|nt|glen: 6@C at the other table|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d6|pc|d7|pg|| nt|pelu: its a very fair contract 4@H making (only small ! from A and @S back kan defeat - good insurance|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s4|pc|d9|pc|c3|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: exciting final match|pg|| mc|7|nt|glen: rodwell didn't bid much|pg|| nt|barnets: i dont think its any misunderstanding|pg|| nt|ritong: and the beat goes on amazing|pg|| nt|barnets: south thought norths 6 card hearts were better|pg|| nt|pelu: I dont see that S sh prefer 6-1 fit to a 5-4 fir in @C|pg|| nt|ahollan1: Michal before they run away please thank the players for us|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: ok|pg|| pg|| qx|o15|st||md|1SAKT93HDJ985CKJ76,SQ84HAQ9872DKCQ83,SJ65HKJ53DAQ43CT2,S72HT64DT762CA954|sv|n|nt|barnets: 25 imps now|pg|| mb|1S|nt|daman: this is the penultimate board of the session and the event|pg|| mb|2H|mb|2N|mb|3H|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|royhughes: NS need to win at least 1 IMP to have a mathematical chance -- but that looks unlikely|pg|| pc|hA|nt|royhughes: since they have to lose at least a trump and the ace of clubs|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hT|pc|s3|pg|| nt|ritong: french seniors won|pg|| pc|d8|pc|dK|nt|royhughes: congratulations|pg|| nt|danilo1: Rather belive it's time to congratulate team Mahaffey, Roy ... well done |pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|pg|| nt|royhughes: Yes, congratulations to team Mahaffey|pg|| nt|daman: I can hear the fat lady singing|pg|| nt|royhughes: and thank you to everyone for an enjoyable session|pg|| nt|barnets: yes a tough performance|pg|| nt|yuval10: this has been a great championship for French players|pg|| nt|ritong: so this is not such a black wednesday, after all|pg|| nt|daman: it was exciting|pg|| nt|barnets: and a very exciting comeback|pg|| nt|royhughes: It was a great turnaround by the American team|pg|| nt|barnets: tks to Bessis team for a good match|pg|| nt|peachy: Especially thank you Walter for explaining Meckwell bids|pg|| nt|daman: yes without Walter we would have struggled|pg|| nt|barnets: and I hope to see that 3@H def problem|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s7|pc|sT|nt|barnets: in the french magazine|pg|| pc|sQ|pg|| nt|royhughes: it was a neat situation for sure|pg|| nt|barnets: very nice hand|pg|| nt|barnets: as pointed out by oliver bessis|pg|| nt|daman: @D ruff?|pg|| nt|barnets: 3@H was bd 4 this set check it out|pg|| pc|s4|nt|daman: can be held to 4 now|pg|| nt|barnets: a lovely hand for defense|pg|| nt|royhughes: EW can get a diamond ruff but at the expense of playing the club suit|pg|| nt|royhughes: and solving declarer's problem there|pg|| nt|daman: East raised @Hs I suppose he might have @C Q and @H Q|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s2|pc|s9|pg|| pc|s6|pc|h6|pc|sK|pc|s8|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c3|pc|cT|pc|cA|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|c8|pc|c2|pg|| pc|d5|pc|h2|pc|dQ|pc|d6|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|c7|pc|h7|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dT|pc|dJ|pc|h8|pg|| pc|d9|mc|10|pg|| qx|c15|st||md|1SAKT93HDJ985CKJ76,SQ84HAQ9872DKCQ83,SJ65HKJ53DAQ43CT2,S72HT64DT762CA954|sv|n|nt|jbgood: what makes 4@h make also makes 6 @c|pg|| mb|1S|nt|jbgood: yes, this has been a terrific show|pg|| mb|2H|mb|3H|an|.|nt|ritong: what about a possible 6/2|pg|| nt|pelu: if @Hs 4-2 u would all say: bad bidding:|pg|| mb|p|nt|pelu: S can see that its not a 6-2|pg|| nt|fokal: it was in deed bad bidding, but lucky|pg|| nt|ritong: yes|pg|| nt|barnets: 6@S a good contract|pg|| mb|4S|nt|pelu: if nor a misunderstandingm then just bad bidding - what do u prefer?|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|bigtrain: 1@S = 5+@S|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 2@S shows exactly a 3fit|pg|| mb|p|nt|athene: 2nt takeout, typically 6@H 4minor i guess|pg|| nt|ritong: neither|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i'm always so tempted to bid NT with north hand [concealing 3@S support]|pg|| nt|jbgood: you would have been ok here, Al...|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/ofrunda1.html running scores|pg|| nt|ahollan1: maybe next millenium there will be conventional way to show BOTH major suit features of the hand|pg|| pc|c8|nt|athene: with 5-5 he would just bid his minor|pg|| nt|fokal: need pretty much @d K onside|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 3@S=14-16 HCP, some void|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cA|nt|ritong: i prefer they stop the bleeding:)|pg|| pc|c6|pg|| nt|barnets: or@CA lead|pg|| nt|bobholl: east won't like this|pg|| nt|ahollan1: Lev's 3@H = invite or better in @S|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d8|nt|athene: club ruff to beat 3@S, but even if east doesn't go for that, there is still a guess|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dA|pg|| nt|bigtrain: i think 3@H was going down though|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|c3|pg|| nt|athene: was it?|pg|| nt|jbgood: yes - on a di lead the big heart in S would give 1 down|pg|| nt|athene: you can lead a trump from dummy and then afford to ruff high|pg|| nt|bigtrain: even without that there isn't enuf communication to do everything|pg|| nt|athene: ah sorry no of course|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/of1t1-1.htm|pg|| nt|bigtrain: with only 1 entry you can't lead towards both red suits|pg|| nt|jbgood: even if E goes for a club ruff he will be endplayed |pg|| nt|jbgood: cna ruff a club and lose to the spade Q|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cQ|pc|s5|pc|c5|pg|| nt|jbgood: 11 made|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s2|pc|sT|pc|sQ|pg|| nt|ahollan1: @D play is deep doesn't work on this layout, but sometimes good to attack transportation|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sJ|pc|s7|pc|sK|pg|| nt|brolucius: West was a bit good for his description, with that massive second suit.|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s8|pc|h3|pc|hT|pg|| nt|fokal: endplayed ? without cashing the last trump ?|pg|| nt|ahollan1: something i'd NEVER find at the table -- ok, i didn't see it here either|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o16|st||md|2SQ9HQT84DAKJ73CQ3,SA62HA7632DQT98CJ,S754HD6542CAKT965,SKJT83HKJ95DC8742|sv|e|nt|daman: now it's official|pg|| nt|barnets: a good result e/w here in the closed|pg|| nt|yuval10: last board now, congratulations for the Mahaffey team, and to Bessis the runner-ups|pg|| nt|yusufb: WD MAHAFFEY OF USA WD KAPADOKYA OF TURKEY|pg|| mb|1H|mb|2C|mb|4D|mb|5C|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c2|nt|barnets: looks down 3|pg|| nt|royhughes: yes, I don't see any way to avoid 2 diamond losers and 3 spades|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|cQ|pc|h2|pg|| pc|cT|nt|royhughes: still a little pickup|pg|| pc|c7|pc|h4|pc|h3|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c8|pc|h8|nt|ritong: west under some pressure, though|pg|| pc|s2|pg|| pc|d5|pc|h5|nt|royhughes: Thomas is hoping for a stiff queen of diamonds|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d8|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|sK|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s5|pc|sT|pc|s9|pg|| pc|s8|pc|d3|nt|ritong: but for an endplay to work, he had to avoid playing @d superhuman|pg|| pc|h6|pc|s7|pg|| pc|s3|pc|hT|pc|hA|pc|c5|pg|| pc|c6|pc|h9|pc|hQ|pc|h7|pg|| mc|8|nt|daman: thanks everyone|pg|| nt|vugraphpl5: thanks all|pg|| nt|hobakan: thx|pg|| nt|vugraphpl5: and see you tomorrow!|pg|| nt|royhughes: I think Rodwell must have pitched a diamond at the end, not a heart|pg|| nt|ritong: yes|pg|| nt|royhughes: Thank you everyone|pg|| pg|| qx|c16|st||md|2SQ9HQT84DAKJ73CQ3,SA62HA7632DQT98CJ,S754HD6542CAKT965,SKJT83HKJ95DC8742|sv|e|nt|jbgood: last one at this table |pg|| nt|ahollan1: maybe we can convince teams to play one more set???|pg|| nt|jbgood: I certainly think Bessis would love that:)|pg|| nt|jbgood: or can they find 20 odd imps in the boards not compared?|pg|| nt|jbgood: doesnt look that much in them|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: players thank spectators for supporting|pg|| nt|jbgood: but it aint over etc.....|pg|| nt|pelu: 19 IMP and 3 boards - but they look very flat|pg|| mb|1H|nt|vugraphpl8: Theu know that|pg|| nt|jbgood: might be something in this one though|pg|| nt|ahollan1: right Board 11 looked like the swing hand|pg|| mb|3C|nt|barnets: n/s now on a run of 44v0|pg|| nt|ritong: yes lemon time|pg|| nt|barnets: 44 imps without reply|pg|| nt|jbgood: just a big swing between the teams - they are surely providing excellent entertainment!|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: w is very angry|pg|| nt|pelu: 111 IMP 1. segment, 115 now in 2.|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 4@H?|pg|| nt|pelu: and - as many kibs have told me in B11 4! is a make|pg|| nt|pelu: 4@s|pg|| nt|ahollan1: bid 'em up push 'em up way up|pg|| nt|pelu: or 4@D splinter with @hs|pg|| nt|ahollan1: splinter opposite limited opener i have to admit that hadn't occurred to me|pg|| mb|4H|nt|barnets: ever since I said e/w were playing well|pg|| nt|bobholl: not 2 @H ?|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2@S=8-9 HCP, 5+@H & 5+@S|pg|| nt|ritong: barnet, you crow!!|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg|| nt|jbgood: needs to get the spdes right to make 4@h it seems - not too difficult.... Pepsi doubles?|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: running scores: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/ofrunda1.html|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: i'm starting to get a decent feel for actions Piek will take --- so of course the show is over|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|jbgood: even though Smirnow means somehting like "with peace" or the like:)|pg|| nt|barnets: that put the kiss of death on them|pg|| nt|pelu: no pass or 5@c|pg|| pc|cA|nt|jbgood: *--ov|pg|| nt|brolucius: It was hardly East's fault that the slam was missed, so why was West angry?|pg|| nt|ahollan1: their 2@H and 2@S responses are very close but 2@H can include hands with longer @S|pg|| nt|jbgood: no|pg|| pc|c2|nt|jbgood: we are way ahead of the OR - last one of this segment now|pg|| nt|bigtrain: i'm a bit surprised taht roddy didn't bid at this colour|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cJ|pg|| nt|barnets: last board this set|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|cQ|nt|jbgood: N of course didnt have to have anything non-vul...|pg|| pc|h2|pg|| nt|barnets: when is restart ?|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: the winner in women's teams is KAPADOKYA|pg|| nt|jbgood: If Pepsi knew prd had a trick, and he had 2 trump tricks himself.....:)|pg|| nt|ahollan1: on 14 [lev 2@H] the suit was never bid at other table M Bessis in 4@C South [that won't help his cause]|pg|| pc|h3|pc|c6|nt|vugraphpl8: the winner of senior teams will be grenthe|pg|| nt|ahollan1: he knows the trump suit, assumes @SQ in South [lev would bid 2@C with @SQ @CAK] but what can he do with this info?|pg|| pc|hK|nt|ahollan1: not exactly sure but all seem to start with rise @HK|pg|| pc|h4|pg|| nt|ahollan1: and abandon trump|pg|| nt|ahollan1: at the table i'm sure i'd quickly think float @SJ then long pause trying to talk myself out of that line|pg|| nt|pelu: can he make by playing 2!x@S (noQ) and the cross ruff?|pg|| nt|jbgood: spade jack seems to cover most bases|pg|| nt|ahollan1: problem with crossruff seems to be Pepsi trump honors -- but maybe then loser-on-loser|pg|| nt|jbgood: using spades as reserve trumps works nicely|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i'm in a loop [still trying to play single dummy]|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s9|nt|jbgood: 2 more segments to decide the winners - next starting in 95 mins or so|pg|| nt|fokal: NS can almost make 4 @h , do they strong NT in the other room too ?|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s4|pg|| nt|ahollan1: about 20 minutes|pg|| nt|jbgood: in 25 mins|pg|| nt|barnets: time for tea and sandwich|pg|| nt|pelu: W is a angry young man :) and easy to blame partner :)|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: he doesn't blame partner|pg|| nt|pelu: oh yes Jon if u find @SQ I try to find a way where u dont find @S Q|pg|| pc|c7|nt|jbgood: the preempt would be a good indicator|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|pelu: prob W feel that East is too strong to bid only 3@D|pg|| pc|h6|nt|fokal: do they play, sr |pg|| pc|c9|pg|| nt|ahollan1: why shift back to @C?|pg|| nt|ahollan1: maybe playing Pepsi to hold 4=4=3=2 ??|pg|| nt|jbgood: dont think it matters... as long as he goes back to spades|pg|| nt|ahollan1: but that gives Lev wrong hand for 3@C|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|s3|pc|h8|pg|| nt|jbgood: 6-6 in the minors not very likely:)|pg|| pc|dA|nt|fokal: even her, S could have doubled 2 @h but I agree it's a double dummy bid|pg|| nt|fokal: here|pg|| nt|pelu: D normal = 5 card+ suit|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d2|nt|ahollan1: sorry for those who don't know South is known as Pepsi [as in pepsi-cola] |pg|| pc|h5|pg|| nt|pelu: ok @H to A and claim|pg|| nt|fokal: I think S should not have ruffed|pg|| nt|ahollan1: exactly right Jon -- that's why @SJ then back to @C confused me|pg|| pc|sK|pc|hT|nt|fokal: maybe rodwell could have done something, wwhite against red|pg|| pc|s6|nt|jbgood: looked as if the @d 10 should be given the trick - for an overtrick...|pg|| nt|pelu: ok Hi all and tx to our fine operator Michal - and to kibs with a lot of comments |pg|| nt|jbgood: bye for now|pg|| nt|pelu: the scoring slowed down but only 2 flat boards so far (out of 11)|pg|| nt|pelu: next segment in 1½ hour|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: next seg at 14.00 bye|pg|| pc|s5|pg|| nt|barnets: although Bessis is leading the momentum is very much with Mahaffey|pg|| nt|pelu: and Smirnov talks all the time at the tables :)|pg|| nt|fokal: here declarer wins by playing @c ruff A of @h and @s|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d9|nt|ritong: well well well|pg|| nt|barnets: cu in 20|pg|| nt|pelu: kibs say: Smirnov blame himself for the missed slam :) - prob they are right|pg|| nt|ritong: so, see you all in 20 minutes or so|pg|| nt|jbgood: back in a few - see you then. bye for now|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: I think a little break will be for both teams|pg|| nt|ritong: dzieki michal|pg|| nt|ritong: have a drink:)|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: next set at 16.40|pg|| nt|pelu: tx Michal - a hard job wd|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: yes 20 min|pg|| pc|d4|pc|h9|pg|| mc|10|nt|jbgood: and claim - thank you all - it has been a fantastic and enjoyable final:)|pg|| nt|ahollan1: great match -- congrats to all of the finalists|pg|| nt|pelu: ok tx all - and spec tx to Michal - our hard working operator - wd Michael - now u can sleep ontil to morrow 10 0'clock|pg|| nt|jbgood: bye all|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: thx all|pg|| nt|pelu: 15 is flat, and Bessis cant make 23 IMPs on 16 - so gold for Mahaffey and his players|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: tommorow first match at 10.00|pg|| nt|pelu: bu ll - see u tomorrow - lso tx to a lot of very active kibs|pg|| pg||