vg|A EC 2011 Final - teams OPEN,2_3,I,17,32,Bessis,68,Mahaffey,43| rs|5SE-1,5SEx-1,3DN=,5DS-2,5DN=,5DNx-2,2HWx=,2SNx=,4SWx-5,3NN-1,4HN=,4HN-1,3NS=,3NS+1,4SS-2,4HE=,4HW+1,2SS-2,1NE=,2HN+1,4SE-1,4SE-2,4DN-2,3CN+1,2DS-2,1NN-2,4CN+2,4HN=,6SW=,4SW+2,2SW=,2SE=| pn|Bessis M,Lev,Bessis T,Pszczola,MECKSTROTH,SMIRNOV,RODWELL ,PIEKAREK|pg|| qx|o17|st||md|3S2HQ9DAQJ2CAKJT52,SAK653HA543D64C83,STHJT876DT98CQ964,SQJ9874HK2DK753C7|sv|o|mb|p|mb|2D!|mb|3C|mb|4D|nt|Walddk2: Good morning to Henry Bethe|pg|| nt|brolucius: 4@D no doubt to play in partner's major.|pg|| mb|p|mb|4S|mb|d|mb|p|nt|brolucius: Now North must decide whether to bid 5@C. I am sure he will.|pg|| mb|5C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|5S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cA|nt|brolucius: Yes, pretty well judged all round. You can never measure precisely on these auctions.|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c9|pc|c7|pg|| nt|athene: hi good afternoon everyone|pg|| nt|brolucius: The general aim is to avoid a large swing away.|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Welcome William|pg|| nt|henryb: Once Thomas bid 5@c not many imps are at stake anymore|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c8|pc|c6|pc|s4|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|sT|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h9|pc|h3|pc|h6|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hQ|nt|brolucius: Declarer knows his fate.|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h7|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h8|pc|s7|pc|c2|pg|| pc|s8|pc|cJ|pc|sA|pc|c4|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d8|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d6|pc|d9|pc|d3|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c17|st||md|3S2HQ9DAQJ2CAKJT52,SAK653HA543D64C83,STHJT876DT98CQ964,SQJ9874HK2DK753C7|sv|o|nt|tsadek: ok Tokay here|pg|| nt|jfaria: hi all|pg|| nt|jbgood: we and kibs are having much good entertainment - fine match|pg|| mb|p|nt|glen: complete Lavazza team is:Norberto BOCCHI, Giorgio DUBOIN, Agustin MADALA, Antonio SEMENTA, Mustafa Cem TOKAY, Jon BALDURSSON|pg|| nt|barnets: east started multi 2@D in open|pg|| mb|3S|mb|d|nt|jfaria: hi all|pg|| nt|glen: hi all :)|pg|| nt|psyck: Hello everyone|pg|| nt|glen: S here has invented a 3rd @S|pg|| nt|barnets: and the contract is 5@S e/w|pg|| nt|jbgood: this is session 2 of 3 - 16 boards each|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg|| nt|pelu: 10 tricks both way - so in OR the fight is on the 5-level :)|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/ofrunda1.html - running scores|pg|| mb|5S|nt|Walddk2: Easy grand slam?|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/or161t3-1.htm|pg|| nt|jbgood: Good morning|pg|| nt|bigtrain: good morning everyone|pg|| nt|barnets: 5@S will go quietly down 1|pg|| mb|d|nt|Walddk2: To to make at least|pg|| nt|jfaria: a very close match, 1 imp diference|pg|| nt|galadriel: Hello everyone|pg|| nt|psyck: 2@s likely a weaker raise with 2@h a good raise|pg|| nt|glen: E has two choices: X, or 3@H|pg|| nt|psyck: with @sAx, @dK, @c doubleton, a sensible 2@s even with doubleton i suppose|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: hi all|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Good morning everyone|pg|| nt|jbgood: 3 sessions of 16 boards to decide the winners|pg|| nt|pelu: Hi all|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Michal, Jon, Peter, Bill and Walter|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: all bbo tables - http://www.bridgebase.com/mobile/|pg|| mb|p|nt|tsadek: west need fit +K@C then he ask for aces|pg|| nt|pelu: here I prefer "Nt as transfer to @D (and 2@S for @C)|pg|| nt|jfaria: weak nt and a rubish stayman by n|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg|| mb|p|nt|glen: expect 2NT to be @D transfer, and 3@C = likes @Ds|pg|| nt|glen: and now W has to decide is it a good day for not vulnerable games|pg|| mb|p|nt|pelu: so 3@H = singleton|pg|| nt|pelu: diff when u have 2 singletons :)|pg|| nt|rado: hi all:)|pg|| nt|rado: @D lead and @S underlead Ak will beat it but unlikely|pg|| pc|cK|nt|jfaria: just in time for an exciting board :)|pg|| nt|galadriel: Well, 5@S will make|pg|| nt|jfaria: who could bid it?|pg|| nt|glen: W may think his 4@Ss means that E has a singleton or void|pg|| nt|jbgood: red card means not so quiet<.9|pg|| pc|c3|nt|galadriel: Do you think North should bid one more? Or is he worried to push them into makingslam?|pg|| nt|thenapster: hi all:)|pg|| nt|psyck: true, but as u said, since NV, he passes|pg|| nt|barnets: just 2 imps|pg|| pc|c6|nt|vugraphpl8: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/osw2t1-1.htm|pg|| nt|psyck: Hi Lotan|pg|| nt|thenapster: we are going to see very agressive style by the Danish pair|pg|| pc|c7|pg|| nt|jfaria: NS found a good suit and 3nt looks noraml|pg|| nt|pelu: so a X from the hand with no tricks|pg|| pc|cA|nt|vugraphpl8: http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg|| pc|c8|nt|pelu: NL in 7@d in CR|pg|| nt|pelu: standard bidding : 3@D tranfer, 3NT pass/correct, and 4@C = cue with good @hs|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: now it's ok|pg|| pc|c4|pc|s7|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: LEV: sory partner|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|galadriel: From is point of view, 6 of minor could be on|pg|| nt|glen: hi Krishna, Lotan|pg|| nt|psyck: will be tough to match the aggresion of Meckwell sitting same seats other table :)|pg|| nt|thenapster: :)|pg|| pc|s2|nt|galadriel: his|pg|| nt|jfaria: think the light opening by W succeeded|pg|| pc|s3|nt|glen: what was that about fines for slow play, how about fines for slow bidding?|pg|| nt|tsadek: I like Verhees bid of 3@S in closed room , Force his pd to bid 4@C with K@C|pg|| nt|pelu: not easy when two players from so dif nations and diff style play together|pg|| pc|sT|pg|| nt|jfaria: my connection is so slow that i fear commenting one game after the one is played :(|pg|| nt|jbgood: if prd was kind he could win a @c trick...|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o18|st||md|4S975H87DA32CJT742,SJTHKQ2D985CAK865,SAQ42HAT53DKQJT7C,SK863HJ964D64CQ93|sv|n|nt|Walddk2: Son Thomas is North, father Michel is South|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|nt|Walddk2: and we welcome yet another Bessis, brother/son, Olivier|pg|| nt|brolucius: A very rare situation. Not many sons would partner their father at this level.|pg|| mb|1D|nt|brolucius: I could have survived around 8 boards, partnering my mother, but no more. |pg|| nt|fokal: hi all|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|mb|1H|nt|fokal: yeah, me neither :)|pg|| nt|brolucius: 1@D, rather than a double, is the modern action on the North hand. He plans to double (if available) next time round.|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|nt|henryb: I, on the other hand, take great pleasure in playing with my son as often as circumstances permit|pg|| nt|athene: south could have bid 2@D over the double|pg|| nt|Walddk2: I think I would double on my first turn. Any views, panel?|pg|| nt|henryb: X|pg|| nt|brolucius: Many players would have raised to 2@D on the South cards. Why not?|pg|| mb|3D|nt|athene: it's normal to bid a 5-card major first time rather than double, but not so sure about a 5-card minor|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|fokal: red against white, he didn't want his partner to go wild|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d2|pc|d5|pc|dK|pg|| nt|Walddk2: He has a great hand if they have a fit|pg|| pc|h3|nt|fokal: which whould surely have happened here|pg|| nt|brolucius: 2@D doesn't show any more than that, because he can cue-bid 2@C to show a sound raise.|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h7|nt|athene: well there's quite a bit of room between 2@D and wildness; partner should be able to show a good hand below the stratosphere|pg|| pc|h2|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|d8|pc|dT|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|h8|pc|hQ|pg|| nt|brolucius: A bidding panel would say: 'No problem! I will raise to 2@D.'|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h6|pc|dA|pc|hK|pg|| nt|fokal: with N hand , it would be still hard to stop quitely in 3D|pg|| nt|henryb: Some of us might say "when I have very little, I bid very little - Pass"|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pg|| nt|brolucius: Or 'when I have a fit, I raise!'|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|c2|nt|henryb: And partner responds "When you raise on that, I have a fit." :)|pg|| pc|sT|pc|hT|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s7|pc|d9|pc|s2|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c18|st||md|4S975H87DA32CJT742,SJTHKQ2D985CAK865,SAQ42HAT53DKQJT7C,SK863HJ964D64CQ93|sv|n|nt|fabsayc: lucky not to be doubled|pg|| nt|jfaria: obviously N was afraid of doing something weird|pg|| nt|galadriel: These high level decisions are so difficult|pg|| nt|jbgood: couldnt agree more, Peter|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|glen: we the mention of meckwell we are now down to 2 specs|pg|| nt|psyck: lol|pg|| mb|1C|nt|rado: again some action with all hands non-balanced|pg|| nt|rado: N may bid @C 1st hoping to introduce @S later by DBL , or direct start with DBL|pg|| mb|d|nt|pelu: I am told that some play that 3@H = 3+ @hs and 3Nt a mild slam-invite|pg|| mb|p|an|.|nt|vugraphpl8: http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: all bbo tables - http://www.bridgebase.com/mobile/index.php?r=348267|pg|| nt|pelu: a lot of @Ds NS on a non @D-lead|pg|| mb|1D|nt|thenapster: the danish pair is playing 4h in borad number 1...probably 5 imps for the amercians as a start|pg|| nt|bigtrain: alot = less than 11 though :)|pg|| mb|p|nt|pelu: yes 10 :)|pg|| nt|pelu: what now 3@D by N or more?|pg|| nt|jbgood: 2@c perhaps? take it that is just forcing|pg|| nt|pelu: Bessis-bessis in 3@d|pg|| nt|bigtrain: obvious;y needs to advance with some care as 1@D is suspect|pg|| mb|4C|an|.|nt|jfaria: @d keep being a safe rescue for nt oppeners .)|pg|| mb|p|nt|alok_daga: Hi all|pg|| nt|galadriel: They will get to 3NT here|pg|| nt|galadriel: which is a tricky contract|pg|| nt|galadriel: plenty of HCP but no real source of tricks|pg|| nt|jfaria: y, trick power in every suit|pg|| nt|jfaria: probably will get a favourable lead|pg|| nt|jbgood: he did bid @cs...|pg|| mb|4D|mb|p|nt|rado: hi|pg|| nt|barnets: if they dont lead trump|pg|| nt|pelu: as I see: ned a @D lead to defeat 4@d|pg|| nt|barnets: they may make 10|pg|| nt|pelu: @D lead in OR|pg|| nt|barnets: they made just 3|pg|| nt|jbgood: after this sequence a trump lead stands out here too|pg|| nt|jbgood: but Rod hasnt passed yet|pg|| nt|pelu: not so easy for West to play @D wery aften first @CA - and then too late|pg|| nt|jbgood: a kib says: He thinks now to bid 3NT...:)|pg|| nt|pelu: but the 4@C bid sh help him|pg|| nt|barnets: that would not work|pg|| nt|pelu: 3Nt could be the winning spot - not here, but thats I dont like 4@C and prefer 3@c by N|pg|| mb|4H|nt|pelu: but with 6HCOP East could never invite for slam - so prob a misunderstanding - we will prov know later|pg|| nt|athene: hi good morning everyone|pg|| mb|p|mb|5D|nt|glen: some partnerships have given up game invites on the N type hands, just blast 4@S and hope the unknown nature of the hand can help|pg|| nt|psyck: 4@h had play, but mostly double dummy, so as you say, likely -1|pg|| nt|thenapster: not a good descion to bid 4cl..that will go -3 instead of 3sp down|pg|| nt|glen: it don't like 4@C on the 3-2-2-6|pg|| mb|p|nt|glen: here the 3@h and then 4@S indicates a stonger idea|pg|| nt|jfaria: big swing first board|pg|| mb|p|nt|brotherp: hi all|pg|| nt|brotherp: lets see if Denmark can come back|pg|| mb|p|nt|glen: but hard for N to find the perfect cards in the S hand for slam|pg|| nt|pelu: will EW start X now?|pg|| nt|barnets: looks like they are too high|pg|| nt|pelu: no|pg|| pc|sJ|nt|glen: good duck at trick 1|pg|| nt|pelu: pl Kibs - can u tell: was 3Nt slaminvite or just Pass/correct?|pg|| nt|bigtrain: what the heck is a zt penalty?|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|glen: greco-hampson (in another match) reached 3@S|pg|| nt|galadriel: They got X'd in 5@S in other room for 850|pg|| nt|jfaria: double game swing outch!|pg|| nt|galadriel: Interestingly, it was South who competed to 5@S|pg|| nt|Walddk5: Both pairs play Precision. I think I can find EW's CC, one moment|pg|| nt|bigtrain: sorry|pg|| nt|bigtrain: privaye|pg|| nt|bigtrain: private|pg|| pc|sK|nt|glen: now what does S do?|pg|| nt|jbgood: no need to say this will not make - but all of a sudden you see defenders going astray - not here though|pg|| pc|s5|pg|| pc|d4|nt|jbgood: nice return|pg|| pc|d2|nt|glen: and their opps did likewise|pg|| pc|d5|nt|brotherp: hi joao|pg|| nt|pelu: S could play @ss himself for a trrick to @s9|pg|| pc|d7|pg|| pc|h3|nt|thenapster: so 5-0 for Maheffey after the first board of the segment|pg|| nt|psyck: The @h's not dgood enuf, so while the 1st endplay worked, 2nd will not help |pg|| nt|psyck: so likely -2 now|pg|| nt|thenapster: yes|pg|| pc|h4|nt|alok_daga: the last hand,a pretty hand 2 defeat 5hrts,wud require gud defence|pg|| nt|Walddk5: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/ConventionCards/2009BermudaBowlBrazil/bermudabowl/norway/groetheim-tundal.pdf|pg|| pc|h7|nt|jfaria: with a @d lead things would have been harder|pg|| nt|galadriel: Irens is a Norwegian/English combo|pg|| nt|galadriel: Vito all Bulgarian|pg|| nt|jfaria: hi Wiebe|pg|| pc|hK|pg|| pc|d8|pc|dT|nt|brotherp: fairly natural systems i think; so we shld be able to make some sense of their bidding|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d3|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h6|nt|vugraphpl8: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/or32runda1.html|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h2|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h9|nt|pelu: I am not impressed :)|pg|| nt|tsadek: noe either @H 3-3 or A@D with 4@H|pg|| nt|jfaria: wonder if MWckwell will bid game|pg|| pc|dA|pc|hQ|pg|| nt|pelu: so down 2 - and 7 IMP for Bessis|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sT|pc|sA|nt|pelu: or @C 10 by East|pg|| pc|s3|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|c9|pc|c2|pc|d9|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|c5|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|s9|pc|c6|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c8|pc|dK|pc|cQ|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o19|st||md|1SJ52HKT854DAQ2CA5,S8743HA93D4CJ8642,S6HJ6DT987653CQ97,SAKQT9HQ72DKJCKT3|sv|e|nt|henryb: didn't declarer make that?|pg|| nt|fokal: yes, I'm not sure what I would have done. I guess I would have raised. The old man is one of the only one not to raise with this hand :)|pg|| mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|d|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: old man?!|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Mature you mean :)|pg|| mb|2S|nt|brolucius: The 'young man' is North and duly finds the response (as recommended by Michael Rosenberg).|pg|| nt|fokal: my old man, I can't call him that way ? :)|pg|| nt|Walddk2: You can indeed|pg|| nt|brolucius: Yes, it is a good phrase.|pg|| nt|henryb: Me, he is talking about. The antedeluvian dinosaur according to Barry Goren (poohbear) and Walter Johnson (bigtrain)|pg|| nt|brolucius: Implies endearment, which I am sure is appropriate.|pg|| mb|4D|mb|p|nt|fokal: allright , my respected and beloved father, then ;-)|pg|| nt|brolucius: It is is obvious that there is no 'old man' in the North seat.|pg|| mb|5D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sA|nt|henryb: on the miraculous lie of the cards, I believe 5@d is cold|pg|| nt|Walddk2: If you guess everything yes|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|s6|pg|| nt|henryb: that goes without saying|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c5|pc|cJ|nt|Walddk2: He may well get hearts wrong|pg|| pc|cQ|pg|| pc|h6|nt|fokal: have to guess the @h, and if the defense gives you trouble you might need @h 33|pg|| pc|h2|nt|henryb: and play the cards in the right sequence|pg|| nt|athene: if you lead the @HJ there east knows you have a guess|pg|| nt|athene: if you lead low he is perhaps slightly more likely to rise the ace sometimes|pg|| nt|fokal: ok now only the @h guess|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hA|pg|| pc|s8|pc|d3|nt|brolucius: Wow, he has guessed right!|pg|| pc|s9|nt|Walddk2: Well done|pg|| pc|s5|pg|| pc|d5|nt|fokal: he played @h quickly to make E jump in with the As if he had it|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|d4|pg|| nt|fokal: and thus he played accordingly|pg|| nt|brolucius: Yes, very good point. East might be expecting a trump.|pg|| mc|11|nt|Walddk2: Fine player|pg|| nt|athene: north knows he needs the @DK onside|pg|| pg|| qx|c19|st||md|1SJ52HKT854DAQ2CA5,S8743HA93D4CJ8642,S6HJ6DT987653CQ97,SAKQT9HQ72DKJCKT3|sv|e|nt|thenapster: meckstroth was very agressive in board number 2 to bid 4sp by S after e-w reached 4cl|pg|| nt|brotherp: betting Meckwell will bid game|pg|| nt|pelu: now I have 15-3 for p/c :)|pg|| nt|barnets: very fortunate 5@D here|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|nt|galadriel: was that really 11 tricks?|pg|| nt|jfaria: impossible|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 1@C = 16+ any shape|pg|| mb|3C|an|.|nt|vugraphpl8: http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 1NT = 5+@C GF|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 3@C = club slam try or @D sign-off|pg|| nt|pelu: 5 @D down on a @C-lead played by S|pg|| nt|jbgood: here: the latter|pg|| mb|d|nt|rado: disciplinned pass by S non vuln vs Vuln|pg|| nt|jfaria: only in another movie :)|pg|| nt|galadriel: I thought it was 9 only|pg|| nt|glen: running scores: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/or16runda1.html|pg|| nt|psyck: @d lead may have been needed to defeat 4@s|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: all bbo tables - http://www.bridgebase.com/mobile/index.php?r=251836|pg|| mb|p|nt|pelu: 18 kibs: 15 vote for pass/correct 3 for slaminvite :) - I just for their system - not votes :):)|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 2@C = 5+@H|pg|| mb|p|nt|alok_daga: Qx,Qx,hardly an opening hand,M also 2 2|pg|| nt|Walddk5: Michal, you sure?|pg|| mb|3D|nt|bigtrain: 2@D = <3@H good hand|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 2@S = natural|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: all bbo tables - http://www.bridgebase.com/mobile/|pg|| nt|barnets: In 5@D east led a top spade and switched a low club dec won Q and led a low heart to the 10|pg|| mb|3S|nt|pelu: here NL had 5½ bidding-round to find 4@S with 6@s almost cold|pg|| nt|Walddk5: Only 1 IMP in it, but that could be important with the scoreline this close|pg|| nt|Walddk5: Corrected now|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: sry bad claim|pg|| nt|Walddk5: np|pg|| nt|brotherp: ending up in 2@s|pg|| mb|p|nt|glen: in the other room EW made six bids without @S, but then accidently bid the suit to play there|pg|| nt|rado: we've seen many wild openings those days:)|pg|| nt|psyck: well, if they just play trump, that may also work|pg|| nt|glen: sadly all bbo tables do not fit nicely into my iphone :)|pg|| mb|4S|nt|glen: the 4@S bid here will be enough to get to slam now|pg|| nt|glen: even though EW are just temporary italians, they will use roman keycard blackwood|pg|| nt|pelu: for sure ita not easy to find out that the hands fit so well|pg|| nt|glen: Q. what is 2NT, A. unknown to us, but likely forcing game try, that in this case is a slam try|pg|| mb|p!|nt|tsadek: 2NT want to know 2@S with 3card or 4card|pg|| nt|pelu: 2NT could be invit+|pg|| nt|tsadek: 4@S max 4card @S|pg|| nt|jfaria: they always do , the making games and all the others :)|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 3@C = natural|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 3@D = waiting|pg|| nt|bigtrain: although he may just gamble 3NT|pg|| mb|p|nt|alok_daga: True,Rado,the openings r getting wilder by the day|pg|| nt|galadriel: Thanks :)|pg|| nt|jfaria: "wrong sided" in open got a @d lead|pg|| nt|glen: yikes to that X|pg|| nt|twcho: I guess they are not native German but immigrants from other countries|pg|| mb|5D|nt|glen: wow|pg|| nt|pelu: if so, then 4@s stronger than 3@s|pg|| nt|glen: or in this case, reverse wow|pg|| nt|fabsayc: the funny thing is the light to wild openings don't seem to ever work, one wonders the attraction|pg|| nt|alok_daga: Query,wud u sell 2 a 2dmnds or xle from Easts hand?P marked with strength|pg|| nt|rado: Declarer mau like @c continuation|pg|| nt|athene: @CA10 is pretty good support|pg|| mb|p|nt|psyck: :)|pg|| nt|psyck: it would not occur to me for sure at this vul|pg|| nt|athene: given partner has bid the suit twice|pg|| nt|fokal: here they can make 6 @c (even 7 ! ). Can they reach it ?|pg|| nt|fokal: 4 @c will defnetly help|pg|| mb|p|nt|jbgood: sure they will bid 6@c|pg|| nt|athene: 4@D rkcb?|pg|| mb|d|nt|fabsayc: east does not have a second bid|pg|| nt|rado: 3 rounds of @C now|pg|| nt|jbgood: a bit too much by doubling first and then 3@s afterwards?|pg|| mb|p|nt|pelu: its difficult - I dont expect many tables will bid this slam|pg|| nt|brotherp: declarer will go after @h's|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 4@C surprises me a bit with 5422 minimum... thats why i expected 3@D|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 4@D = rkc|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 4NT = 2 no Q|pg|| nt|barnets: now rod has to guess hearts|pg|| mb|p|nt|jfaria: E and N bidding @h first meaning @s |pg|| mb|p|pc|sA|nt|galadriel: West would be ruffing with his natural trump trick|pg|| nt|pelu: Smirnow from Russia and Piekarek from Poland|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s3|nt|pelu: how can u ask with void in H?|pg|| nt|athene: i guess meckstroth decided that after his partner showed extras *and* rebiddable clubs, 5@C was going to be safe, despite the poor diamond holding|pg|| pc|s6|pg|| nt|jbgood: so i was wrong - again:)|pg|| nt|bigtrain: they don't have exclusion available in the auction|pg|| nt|barnets: low heart ?|pg|| pc|sK|nt|fokal: everybody told, 6 they bid for sure|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s7|pc|d6|pg|| nt|barnets: maybe the 6 is better|pg|| nt|barnets: than the J|pg|| nt|barnets: wanting east to bounce|pg|| nt|barnets: with the ace|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Thomas played the 6 in tempo|pg|| nt|jbgood: will he find it?|pg|| nt|barnets: if he plays the J easier for east to play low|pg|| nt|jbgood: E has bid as if he owns the deck - so perhaps he may have @h A and Q|pg|| nt|barnets: with the ace of course|pg|| nt|pelu: but the both play for Germany now|pg|| nt|barnets: east has shown a very strong hand on bidding|pg|| nt|chessmaste: Declarer knows East has the @SAK, and by inference has the minor suit kings - no club switch|pg|| nt|barnets: and west a little something|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Yes Mark, but East has not revealed @SQ|pg|| nt|chessmaste: Would West raise with just four trumps and maybe a couple of queens? He might|pg|| pc|h6|nt|alok_daga: If u follow Mike Lawrence he shud be competing!|pg|| nt|galadriel: last trick for the defence|pg|| pc|h7|nt|jfaria: 1 imp back|pg|| nt|Walddk4: He could have @HA instead of the two queens|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| nt|brotherp: short of a chinese finesse|pg|| nt|athene: hard when your useful void is in partner's first-bid suit|pg|| nt|fokal: let me tell to the kibs, that the players don't see the 4 hands , even the world masters|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cQ|nt|psyck: unless they play weak NT, S could have invited after 2@s|pg|| nt|barnets: i think that play is understandeable|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Rodwell's reasoning too|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cA|pg|| nt|barnets: east also X|pg|| pc|sJ|nt|barnets: in other room no x|pg|| pc|s4|nt|pelu: so far 2 out of 6 in slam|pg|| nt|brotherp: nice @h 8 by askgaard|pg|| pc|d7|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dJ|nt|jbgood: y - just unlucky that E didnt have the ave|pg|| nt|jbgood: ace|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d4|pg|| nt|glen: i've been searching for a cc, but have found none|pg|| nt|thenapster: same|pg|| nt|glen: i'm told its 12-15|pg|| nt|psyck: ok, then an understandable auction|pg|| nt|brotherp: but ask needed his clubs...|pg|| pc|dA|pc|c2|pc|d3|pc|dK|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h3|nt|glen: and some not even in @S|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pg|| nt|brotherp: 8 now|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c5|pc|cJ|pc|c7|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: http://www.bridgebase.com/mobile/ or http://www.bridgebase.com/client/vugraph.php - all bbo tables|pg|| mc|9|nt|vugraphpl8: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/ofrunda1.html - running scores|pg|| pg|| qx|o20|st||md|2SAK82H4DAQJT6CQ92,SHKJ9853DK752CKJ4,ST653HAT76D9C8765,SQJ974HQ2D843CAT3|sv|b|nt|Walddk2: yes, and 110 entered|pg|| nt|athene: so that gives east a lot of stuff - spade stuff, @CK, @DK|pg|| nt|athene: can he really have the @HA as well?|pg|| nt|henryb: why not?|pg|| nt|brolucius: There were two huge problems on the previous board: (a) bidding 5@D and (b) making 5@D. They achieved both.|pg|| nt|Walddk2: He did not reveal @SQ|pg|| mb|1H|nt|athene: it's possible, but he might have done something more|pg|| mb|p|mb|1S|mb|2D|mb|2H|mb|p|nt|athene: i would think north bid 4@D just to find a possible sac against 4@S|pg|| nt|athene: he didn't really imagine he would actually score up 5@D|pg|| nt|brolucius: If you play Support Doubles, a 2@H rebid denies three spades.|pg|| nt|athene: south can double 2@H i guess|pg|| mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|nt|fokal: 5@d making with 13 facing 3 points, good result !!|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|d9|nt|brolucius: 'Unlucky' not to be doubled.|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|d2|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Meckwell were in 5@D on 18 (tto high); can they do it again on 19?|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|fokal: lol , dthey were already lucky enough|pg|| nt|athene: north didn't want to pull the double to 2@S given east had bid those but it was surely a possibility|pg|| pc|dK|pc|h6|pc|d4|pg|| nt|athene: one interesting point of carding is when you lead an honour for a ruffing finesse|pg|| nt|athene: how do you show your solid sequence and give suit preference too?|pg|| nt|henryb: I am not sure they can beat this|pg|| nt|fokal: yes good point|pg|| nt|athene: many good pairs play Q/10 is high and J/9 is low|pg|| nt|fokal: by the way here in 2 @h it seems declarer needs to find the @c Q|pg|| pc|c8|nt|fokal: but N might help by playing @s|pg|| pc|c3|nt|fokal: or @c :(|pg|| nt|athene: i think passing the double was OK at MP but a bit dodgy at imps|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|d5|nt|brolucius: Yes, but there was no attractive alternative, which may have forced his decision.|pg|| nt|Walddk2: All BBO vugraph tables at http://www.bridgebase.com/mobile/|pg|| nt|fokal: now two round of trump to avoid +1|pg|| nt|brolucius: We are being favoured with some big boards, which is just as we like it.|pg|| pc|h7|pc|d8|pc|d6|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|h3|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hQ|pc|s8|pc|h5|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sA|pc|h8|pc|s3|pg|| pc|hK|pc|s5|pc|s7|pc|s2|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c20|st||md|2SAK82H4DAQJT6CQ92,SHKJ9853DK752CKJ4,ST653HAT76D9C8765,SQJ974HQ2D843CAT3|sv|b|nt|thenapster: 5 imps back to demark in board 2|pg|| nt|barnets: chance to hit back here for n/s|pg|| mb|1H|nt|pelu: easy come - easy go - this look as IMP for US|pg|| mb|p|nt|thenapster: denmark* of course|pg|| nt|glen: this should be the big @C opening|pg|| mb|1S|nt|alok_daga: Shud be dead push,this brd|pg|| nt|thenapster: 16+|pg|| nt|athene: rodwell just decided to go with the odds - that one of partner's keycards was the @HA|pg|| mb|2D|nt|psyck: S passes to show some 0-4 maybe|pg|| nt|glen: S will pass as many times as legal on the auction|pg|| nt|bigtrain: well i guess they could jump to 5@H but that commits them to slam :)|pg|| mb|2H|nt|pelu: Denmark and Hungary (against Monaco) bid 6@s|pg|| nt|glen: how good was the 6@H contract?|pg|| nt|glen: with @D KT doubleton, was nice layout|pg|| nt|rado: now some quiet board 4@S for just|pg|| nt|brotherp: sort off a @s-partial for NS; wonder if they will enter the bidding though|pg|| nt|barnets: south made a X of 2@H that put huge pressure on partner|pg|| mb|p|nt|tsadek: 6@H will be great from N side|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 1@C = 16+|pg|| mb|p|nt|glen: or runout to @Cs|pg|| nt|psyck: most play some artificial bids on strong @c, but 1@d not alerted|pg|| nt|glen: EW is a sponsor-pro partnership, and they tend to try to keep things error free, let the meckwells win the imps|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 2@D = nat|pg|| mb|d|nt|athene: 2@S overcall might cause a little more trouble|pg|| nt|fokal: well I have to say that it's quite surprising that they didn't reach that slam after the 4 @c bid, but I was still though to give value to the void in partner suit|pg|| nt|athene: but he decided the risk/reward ratio not good enough|pg|| mb|p|nt|galadriel: This may not be everyone's opening|pg|| nt|jfaria: 6 on a finesse?|pg|| nt|galadriel: And will probably get them to slam|pg|| nt|jfaria: well EW got kucky with a light opening first board|pg|| nt|galadriel: My view is that, if it is your partnership style to open these hands, that's fine, but the system must have good brakes|pg|| nt|jfaria: hard to stY OU NOW, WITH W HAND|pg|| nt|jfaria: sry capps|pg|| nt|glen: oh, S did not run out|pg|| nt|jfaria: Denmark must feel loosing some ground but they r dealing with avery tuff pair in this room|pg|| nt|pelu: ok a bet: this time NS will bid slam :)|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 2@H is nat (coincidentally) asking|pg|| mb|2S|nt|bigtrain: meckwell are fairly conservative slam bidders|pg|| nt|athene: "there are lots of ways to win imps with +680" as meckstroth says in his book :)|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 2NT = any 3fit|pg|| mb|d|nt|rado: :)|pg|| nt|psyck: yeah, quite a view|pg|| nt|psyck: S not liking his options at all|pg|| nt|psyck: 3@c could be too high, with 2@d going down|pg|| nt|pelu: 2 @D ruff will set up @D then no need to find @cQ|pg|| mb|p|nt|glen: he could now bid 1@C - that would get partner to stop these doubles and play the contract|pg|| nt|jbgood: the axe in this room too|pg|| mb|p|nt|jfaria: nebulous @d opening in precision|pg|| mb|p|nt|jfaria: all this must be scientific and of c forcing|pg|| nt|galadriel: I guess 2@C is GF|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/or321t7-2.htm|pg|| nt|Walddk5: 1@H is 4+ spades or a GF relay|pg|| nt|brotherp: meck bid game as expected in the open room; Denmark need to get something going|pg|| nt|barnets: so can he make it ?|pg|| nt|jbgood: yes - this may just make - for a double game swing|pg|| nt|barnets: he can afford 2 trump losers and 3 clubs|pg|| nt|pelu: but for sure I like the 2@s bid better than the agrressive pass by Thomas in OR|pg|| nt|jbgood: yes - much better |pg|| nt|barnets: h does not have atrump to lead|pg|| nt|barnets: that is always bad|pg|| nt|barnets: as a trump lead is standout|pg|| nt|pelu: @H lead and then @D to A and @Dq?|pg|| pc|s4|nt|Walddk1: 2 segments of 14 boards in the R32, R16, QF and SF. 3 x 16 in the finals on Wednesday|pg|| nt|glen: it is like the pass over 1@D showed some values|pg|| nt|psyck: i dont understand 3N at all, N already showed his hand|pg|| nt|brotherp: and this is not what they need - although u might say opps have missed game (5@D seems unbiddable though)|pg|| nt|bigtrain: meck has a rule... the 480-50 rule|pg|| nt|barnets: sorry wrong hand on lead|pg|| nt|jbgood: even if he goes 1 down it is a tenner gained|pg|| nt|barnets: just 5 tumps to lead :)\|pg|| nt|pelu: diff to find but after a @C-lead closew to down 2|pg|| pc|s2|pc|h3|nt|Walddk5: 1NT 11-13|pg|| nt|galadriel: 1@H is nat or GF, I'm told|pg|| nt|thenapster: very bad|pg|| nt|fokal: yes they should reach this one|pg|| pc|s5|pg|| nt|Walddk5: No, 4+ spades or GF relay|pg|| nt|Walddk5: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/ConventionCards/2009BermudaBowlBrazil/bermudabowl/norway/groetheim-tundal.pdf|pg|| nt|jfaria: only @d lead will cooperate with EW goal|pg|| nt|galadriel: I somehow don't think that will happen...|pg|| nt|thenapster: no dbl no trouble|pg|| nt|psyck: 3@c could have even made with @h fin , this is prayerless|pg|| nt|brotherp: difficult for West to rightly appraise the bare @h Ace|pg|| pc|d9|nt|fokal: 4@s was rkcb in @h ?|pg|| nt|bigtrain: meck has a rule - "the 460-50 rule" it's much better to be +480 then -50|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 580-50|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 480-50|pg|| pc|d4|nt|jfaria: good thing 4 N nerves, he must stil be depressed by B15|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d5|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|pelu: need on 3 entries: @S-ruff, @HA and later @CK|pg|| pc|d2|nt|rado: Defense should continue @H to stop overtrick now|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 4@S is RKC here|pg|| nt|pelu: this 2 teams realy like to entertain kibs - 111 IMPs in 1. segment, and here we go again|pg|| nt|jbgood: the difference between going 1 down and making is a mere 6 IMPs|pg|| nt|april7: hand and 2 aces*|pg|| nt|barnets: well @D hook @D ruff is 4 @HA ruff is 6 and 2 trumps are 8|pg|| nt|pelu: GIB: 8 tricks in @S for Ns - and GIB is better than me :)|pg|| pc|s3|pc|d3|pg|| nt|jfaria: can see nothing besides @d hook|pg|| nt|galadriel: Nor can I|pg|| nt|barnets: or he could just ruff 2 diamonds|pg|| pc|s6|nt|Walddk5: I see 11 IMPs to Bulgaria|pg|| pc|s9|nt|jfaria: but W will try to get as much count as he can|pg|| pc|sK|nt|psyck: well, no entry for @h fin in the 1st place though :)|pg|| nt|barnets: so this bad board in both rooms is kind of lucky for Bessis as they only lose once rather than twice|pg|| pc|h5|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d7|nt|psyck: so just traded -1 for -2 or so, no big deal undoubled|pg|| pc|sT|pc|d8|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|h8|pg|| nt|pelu: 87 kibs agree with GIB - I surrender|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hQ|pc|s8|pc|h9|pg|| pc|sA|pc|c4|nt|jbgood: nice|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: http://www.bridgebase.com/mobile/|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg|| pc|c5|nt|jfaria: very favourable position of kings, not a good game|pg|| pc|s7|pg|| mc|8|nt|psyck: Results: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/or16runda1.html|pg|| nt|psyck: Main Tourney site: http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: http://www.bridgebase.com/mobile/index.php?r=251836|pg|| pg|| qx|o21|st||md|3S5HK987DQT65CA982,SJ963HJ3DAJ987CQ7,SAK84HQ4DK43CKJT5,SQT72HAT652D2C643|sv|n|nt|brolucius: South's re-opening double looked good, viewing his cards alone, but there was always some degree of risk involved.|pg|| mb|1N|mb|2C!|mb|2H|mb|3S|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: 19 is interesting. Meckwell were pushed to 5@D and got doubled|pg|| mb|4S|nt|Walddk2: EW had been in 4@S en route|pg|| nt|brolucius: East's 2@C showed the majors and 2@H said 'I have hearts stopped'. So North is happy to bid 3NT rather than scrabble around tryig to take enough tricks against 3@S doubled at this ...|pg|| nt|brolucius: score.|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|athene: against 4@S, though...|pg|| pc|sA|nt|fokal: the double of thomas is not red, it's blooddy|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s5|nt|athene: 4@S is really a bit much|pg|| pc|s3|pg|| pc|sK|nt|athene: you aren't even sure that 3nt is making|pg|| pc|s7|nt|henryb: I think double of 3@s might be more sensible since N can draw trumps quickly|pg|| nt|fokal: I think he broke the table when he did it :)|pg|| nt|athene: 4@S will only be right when opps have bid 3nt off a big trick source in clubs|pg|| pc|c9|pc|s6|pg|| nt|fokal: yes he probably should have doubled 3 @s|pg|| pc|s8|nt|brolucius: 4@S seems to break several of the rules of defensive bidding. You bid 3@S to cause them a problem. They guess on some action and you then hand them a big number in 4@S. (Not that I ...|pg|| nt|brolucius: have a very good record on such competitive high-level boards, I will admit).|pg|| nt|athene: it is surprising how often, if you have a borderline "double opps or bid on" decision, and you bid on, you get to double them a level higher|pg|| pc|sT|pc|c2|pc|s9|pg|| nt|henryb: I do not think Thomas' decision over 3@s was borderline|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d6|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d4|pc|sQ|pc|d5|pg|| nt|brolucius: West should at least have a singleton somewhere for such an unusual action.|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|c5|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|c4|pg|| nt|athene: 4@S was sort of "hey, i just made 2@H doubled! i am invicible!"|pg|| nt|athene: inviNcible even|pg|| pc|dK|pc|h2|pc|dT|pc|d8|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c6|pc|h7|pc|d9|pg|| pc|cT|pc|h5|pc|h8|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hA|pc|h9|pc|h3|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hK|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|sJ|pc|s4|pc|hT|pg|| pg|| qx|c21|st||md|3S5HK987DQT65CA982,SJ963HJ3DAJ987CQ7,SAK84HQ4DK43CKJT5,SQT72HAT652D2C643|sv|n|nt|glen: one thing about the event schedule: I would suggest once it is down to the 32 teams on the monday, it goes 1 KO each day - 32-16-8-4, and then the last 2 teams play 1 1/2 days to ...|pg|| nt|glen: end when the pairs end|pg|| nt|jfaria: but a chance for denmark in open|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/or161t3-2.htm|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/or16runda1.html|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg|| nt|pelu: ok IMPs back to Bessis?|pg|| mb|1N|mb|2C|an|4H+ - 4S+|nt|chessmaste: The bidding in the other room was Kamikaze system|pg|| nt|jbgood: to flatten 1100 is no easy task|pg|| mb|d|nt|brotherp: the challenge for the Danes is to get opps bid at the 5 level here|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: http://www.bridgebase.com/mobile/index.php?r=348267|pg|| nt|barnets: when west found 4 trumps in north the save did not work well|pg|| mb|2S|nt|pelu: back to the slam in bopard 23 : 10 out of 26 in 6@S - more than I expected|pg|| mb|d|nt|vugraphpl8: http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/osw2t1-1.htm|pg|| nt|jfaria: EW got nt first in our room|pg|| mb|p|nt|glen: sad you can't win both the pairs and teams, but nice to share gold medals|pg|| nt|bigtrain: X = cards|pg|| mb|2N|nt|brotherp: and hopefully for them playing in @h 's |pg|| nt|bigtrain: let me do a better job of explaining meck's 480-50 rule...|pg|| mb|p|nt|bigtrain: it's better to be +480 than -50 -- in other words its better to miss a slam than bid one and go down|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/ofrunda1.html|pg|| mb|3N|nt|glen: some how a partscore got in here, will call the TD|pg|| nt|jfaria: sometime NS will find @d|pg|| nt|jfaria: now?|pg|| mb|p|nt|glen: losing teams can join the pairs event on the next day, so only two final teams missed pairs completely|pg|| mb|p|nt|alok_daga: gud xle|pg|| mb|p|nt|glen: in the other room E led a trump|pg|| nt|barnets: perhaps west had done his work in the open with his preempt to 3@S|pg|| nt|jbgood: not that easy to win 3 NT on a spade lead...|pg|| nt|pelu: but after the bidding West is favorit to @cQ and @DJ|pg|| nt|barnets: Rodwell made a very tricky 3N in last set|pg|| pc|s2|nt|glen: assuming the JT98 lead would not hurt, and could stop a @C ruff|pg|| nt|glen: here E switches to that horse at trick two|pg|| nt|jfaria: S lost an entry, but still in the run|pg|| nt|galadriel: For anyone unfamiliar with VG on BBO, if you put your cursor over result from open room, you can see the bidding thee|pg|| nt|galadriel: there|pg|| pc|s5|nt|galadriel: Also, if you click on movie you can see all the results of the match - click on open room|pg|| nt|jfaria: except if are wearing a Mac with no Bo software as i'm doing :)|pg|| nt|pelu: 3Nt make = -11 - down 1 = -15 - so gamebonus here are 4 IMP :)|pg|| pc|sJ|nt|glen: if NS had enough communication after drawing trumps, could bring in @Ds for no losers|pg|| nt|galadriel: for running scores http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg|| nt|jfaria: BBO software, i mean|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: all bbo tables - http://www.bridgebase.com/mobile/|pg|| nt|jfaria: no imaginable problems with this lead|pg|| pc|sK|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg|| pc|cJ|nt|jfaria: well Popov decided to go on on @s, not a good try|pg|| pc|c3|nt|alok_daga: Mansfield proved right yet again,5level belongs 2 opponent.5hrts=1dwn thus this 300 the best they cud do|pg|| nt|alok_daga: actually on cl Q lead 4hrts also dwn?|pg|| nt|thenapster: nope|pg|| nt|thenapster: i think the final teams going for final A|pg|| nt|thenapster: like the semi finals..|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c7|pg|| nt|pelu: diff - even with open cards - to find more that 7 tricks for N|pg|| nt|jbgood: it is makeable, but first hurdle is clubs|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cQ|nt|athene: sometimes you delay playing the critical suit to find out which defender might have Jxxx|pg|| pc|cK|nt|thenapster: thats the way it was in the mixed i played last week|pg|| nt|brotherp: next hand|pg|| pc|c4|pg|| nt|athene: here he is always going to play king then ace of spades so can only pick up four with rodwell, so that doesn't really apply|pg|| nt|athene: but it doesn't hurt anyway|pg|| nt|pelu: 11 IMP to Bessis from board 2: here NS bid and made 5@D (here 4@h-1 by EW)|pg|| nt|Walddk4: In the women's final, Turkey are walking all over the mighty Dutch ladies. 51 IMPs up! And in the seniors, Grenthe (France) is 50 ahead against Pharon (England/Sweden)|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|h3|pg|| pc|c8|pc|d9|pc|cT|nt|glen: once declarer takes the first 5 tricks here, there is a shortage of more tricks|pg|| nt|psyck: The biggest upset in R32 was Texan Aces (silver & bronze winners in previous Euro opens) defeating Monaco Z (Helgemo, Helness, Balicki, Zmudzinski,...) by a narrow 2 imps after ...|pg|| nt|psyck: trailing by 34 imps in 1st half.|pg|| pc|c6|pg|| nt|glen: 6 tricks|pg|| pc|d4|nt|glen: but here it looks like a @H, 3@C, @S and a @D for the defense|pg|| nt|glen: aside from the @S Q|pg|| nt|glen: what the something, the texans (not from texas) won?|pg|| nt|glen: they were getting killed when Z was in|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pg|| pc|s9|nt|jfaria: J @c is only a iluson as an entry|pg|| nt|barnets: west should have ret a heart|pg|| nt|jbgood: looks like it is a sure downer now...|pg|| nt|barnets: but still ok|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: so our final is the most exciting|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s7|nt|glen: that leaves Monaco A holding the flag|pg|| nt|psyck: The sponser of Texan Aces lives in Texas USA & is called Texas...they had a lucky comeback indeed|pg|| nt|psyck: It is a completely Indian team with Texas also of Indian origin|pg|| pc|c2|pg|| nt|pelu: wd by East - if he dont ruff easy win|pg|| nt|glen: did Texas outsource to India again?|pg|| pc|c5|nt|psyck: :)|pg|| pc|h2|pc|d5|pc|s3|pg|| pc|dK|nt|pelu: but only what we could expect from 2 topteams|pg|| pc|h6|nt|jfaria: and Skorchev must be really unhappy with N defence|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d7|pg|| mc|8|nt|jbgood: 15 imps back|pg|| nt|pelu: 16 out and 15 in - and we are not in a beginners club, but in the final in EC :):)|pg|| pg|| qx|o22|st||md|4S532HQ64DAT8CJ953,SQJT9HK3D975CKQ42,SAKHAJT95DQ62CAT6,S8764H872DKJ43C87|sv|e|nt|Walddk2: Rodwell misguessed hearts on 19|pg|| nt|brolucius: Not invincible, it seems.|pg|| mb|p|nt|brolucius: Ah, what a big decision that was. A huge number of IMPs at stake.|pg|| nt|Walddk2: so 11 IMPs to Bessis coming soon|pg|| nt|brolucius: As a buffer against the 2@H doubled and made.|pg|| nt|athene: will Lev open 1@C or 1@S?|pg|| mb|p|mb|1C|mb|d|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2H|nt|athene: probably 2@H should be forcing now, since 1nt shows values|pg|| nt|vugraphpl5: 1@C|pg|| nt|athene: maybe even GF|pg|| nt|Walddk2: 13 IMPs even, Rod going 2 down doubled|pg|| mb|p|mb|4H|nt|brolucius: Not to be risked with some partners.|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|henryb: Only 12, Roland|pg|| pc|c8|nt|Walddk2: Board 19 scored now|pg|| nt|fokal: 2@h shows 18+ for them|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Only 12 yes. I am sure Bessis is happy with 'only'|pg|| nt|henryb: 3N would be easier -- I'm sure also|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d4|nt|fokal: yes, when partner bids 1NT , you might as well bid 3NT with this hand I think|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d5|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h7|pc|h4|pc|h3|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h8|pc|h6|pc|d7|pg|| pc|h9|pc|c7|pc|s2|pc|s9|pg|| pc|c6|pc|s7|pc|c9|pc|c2|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d9|pc|d2|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dT|pc|sT|pc|dQ|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c22|st||md|4S532HQ64DAT8CJ953,SQJT9HK3D975CKQ42,SAKHAJT95DQ62CAT6,S8764H872DKJ43C87|sv|e|nt|rado: but hard to pass with W hand and non vuln vs red|pg|| nt|galadriel: INT making in both rooms - nice teamwork|pg|| nt|jfaria: lol|pg|| nt|glen: that is quite the upset, I would gather that Zimmerman will support my full day KOs approach|pg|| nt|athene: more strong club practice for NS|pg|| nt|bigtrain: we seem to have skipped board 6|pg|| mb|p|nt|brotherp: big challenge here: difficult to reach 6@c it seems|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|jfaria: the only , i guess|pg|| nt|brotherp: big club makes it easier i guess|pg|| mb|1C|an|.|nt|fokal: great job by smirnoff-piekarek to bid and make 5 @d|pg|| mb|p|nt|pelu: 52 IMP after 5 boards - will they break the record from 1 segment?|pg|| mb|1D|an|.|nt|galadriel: A @C lead will scupper this contract|pg|| mb|p|nt|brotherp: negative @d ; but that seems overly pessimistic|pg|| nt|jfaria: EW will steal some space i presume|pg|| nt|brotherp: i guess we just let them bid away|pg|| mb|1H|nt|glen: another 1NT|pg|| nt|jfaria: theu did not |pg|| nt|jfaria: did i see Lev bid 1@h?|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: no missclick|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 1@C = 16+ |pg|| nt|bigtrain: 1@D = 0-7, artificial|pg|| mb|p|mb|2D|an|.|nt|glen: TD has corrected problem, now back to games and slams|pg|| nt|alok_daga: true.on club Q lead will have 2 play hrt 2 ACE,DMND FINNESEE 2 MAKE THE CONTRACT|pg|| nt|jfaria: i?m told S already bid his @c suit|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 1NT = 17-18 balanced|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 2NT a natural raise (believe it or not) :)|pg|| nt|jbgood: i really dont think that is on their mind at all, Peter|pg|| mb|p|mb|4H|nt|pelu: if max 18 the very optimist 2NT?|pg|| mb|p|nt|glen: declarer will punch out the @S ace|pg|| nt|jfaria: think they r very closee to bidding this one|pg|| nt|brotherp: 2@S might be clubs; and 2NT might be pre-accept with an honor....but then again not knowing their agreements that's just a wild guess|pg|| nt|jfaria: 2@s = @c and now S is describing his shape i'm told|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 2NT is natural invite|pg|| nt|pelu: ok that make sense|pg|| mb|p|nt|athene: i believe Meckwell play 2nt response to 1nt opener as asking for a 5-card major, but maybe 1nt on this sequence denies a 5-card major|pg|| nt|bigtrain: excuse me/// noticed 4th seat|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 18-19|pg|| nt|bigtrain: no it doesn't|pg|| mb|p|nt|brotherp: seems impossible for south to bid 6 ..not holding any ace|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 2@D = 3fit 5-7|pg|| pc|c7|nt|jfaria: a mild slam try by S but that's it|pg|| nt|jfaria: killing lead|pg|| nt|jbgood: club lead in the other room made things sort of easy|pg|| nt|bigtrain: otherwise - big club, little diamond, 1@H = 4+ ORF|pg|| pc|c3|nt|pelu: the slam in 24 (6@h) bid by 11 out of 26|pg|| nt|rado: declarer will need Opps to touch @D suit to make this otherwise down 1|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|pelu: high standard here in the A-swiss|pg|| nt|bigtrain: little diamond = 0-7 artificial|pg|| pc|cA|pg|| nt|jfaria: as Anne pointed out|pg|| nt|jfaria: anyway S hand is limited... |pg|| nt|brotherp: goes to show; anyway very nice job by the Danes|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: in open room board 18 - 5S|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: sr 5 d|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: sry|pg|| nt|bigtrain: ORF = one round force|pg|| nt|barnets: so north is worried about a club ruff|pg|| pc|hA|nt|glen: and end with more than enough tricks|pg|| nt|jfaria: but the slow approach from N tells him to bid 6 wd|pg|| pc|h2|nt|glen: Q. more information. A. tournament site: http://www.poznan2011.pl/ bbo archives: http://www.bridgebase.com/vugraph_archives/vugraph_archives.php|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/osw2t1-1.htm|pg|| nt|glen: (the last link just above is the running scores)|pg|| nt|glen: note the seniors just have walking scores|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h3|pg|| nt|brotherp: 5S seems made due to the club T|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h7|nt|pelu: now u owe me a drink, Glen :)|pg|| nt|galadriel: So, Tundal will get his ruff and must score a @D trick to st it|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hK|pg|| nt|galadriel: set|pg|| nt|bigtrain: meckwell's NT ranges are 14-16 1/2/3NV & 15-17 3V/4|pg|| pc|cK|nt|galadriel: 8 boards to play, and nothing in it - very exciting!|pg|| pc|c6|nt|pelu: or 2 :)|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c5|pg|| nt|bigtrain: thus since this is fourth seat 1@C-1@D//1NT = 18-19|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cT|nt|barnets: this is not best|pg|| pc|h8|pc|c9|pg|| nt|athene: declarer only has 8 obvious tricks but east can be thrown in to lead a diamond, i guess|pg|| nt|barnets: now a spade is down|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s5|nt|pelu: some kibs ask for the play in the match for 3. place - I looks like they are not playing the same boards - it when the running score tells so|pg|| nt|barnets: rodwell had a difficult decision |pg|| pc|s9|pc|sK|pg|| nt|alok_daga: Reqd passive defence|pg|| nt|pelu: 2@H and @S = endplay on E|pg|| nt|pelu: still endplay for 9 tricks|pg|| nt|athene: when the @SK gets ducked you tend to assume east is more likely to have the ace|pg|| nt|fokal: with the fast duck, declarer might think as of @s is onside. |pg|| nt|jbgood: Piekarek - Smirnov still bidding 3 next door|pg|| nt|fokal: yes. But the position is not clear|pg|| nt|fokal: cashing could easily go wrong|pg|| nt|athene: east can see that if he wins the @SA he will probably get thrown in with a spade later|pg|| nt|pelu: Ns in 6@c B3|pg|| nt|jbgood: and 6@c reached in OR|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d3|nt|athene: so he ducks to try to just deceive declarer|pg|| nt|barnets: whether to play two top hearts|pg|| nt|barnets: or cross and finesse|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d5|pg|| nt|fokal: wd rodwell|pg|| pc|cJ|nt|fokal: should probably make it now|pg|| pc|c4|pc|d2|nt|glen: i understand there is a beer garden and grill just outside the playing site, meet me there just as soon as I get a flight|pg|| pc|d4|pg|| pc|d8|nt|barnets: perhaps duck the club is best|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o23|st||md|1SA2HK4DQJT6CAKQT8,ST87HJ9532DAK42C3,S96543HAQTD95C542,SKQJH876D873CJ976|sv|b|nt|Walddk2: The contract on board 20 is also doubled in the other room, but ......|pg|| nt|Walddk2: It's in 2@S by N-S|pg|| nt|fokal: oh ho|pg|| nt|fokal: they didn't escape in 2NT then :)|pg|| mb|2N|mb|p|nt|brolucius: Although the final is longer than the other rounds, it is not THAT long. Still very difficult to peg back a lead of 3+ game swings.|pg|| mb|3H|mb|p|nt|athene: do NS play that completing a transfer shows a fit, or denies a fit, or ambiguous?|pg|| nt|Walddk2: They were unable to after pass, pass, pass :)|pg|| mb|3N|nt|fokal: shows|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|athene: if you are going to play it specific i think 3@S here should deny a fit, that way you only force to game when at least you have a 5-3 fit|pg|| pc|h5|nt|brolucius: Something in that, Bill, but it is incredibly rare for 3@S to be passed.|pg|| nt|athene: but probably either way is better than the traditional 3major = most hands|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h6|pc|h4|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Board 20 may cost Bessis half a flat in Mayfair, London. 2@S is makeable|pg|| nt|brolucius: Indeed. 3NT is not much use as a 'break'.|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d8|pc|d6|pc|dK|pg|| nt|Walddk2: It got a low spade lead|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s3|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pg|| nt|Walddk2: if Rod lets it run, he can make|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|c6|pg|| pc|cK|pc|h2|pc|c4|pc|c7|pg|| nt|athene: rodwell did well reading the cards to make a tricky 3nt on an endplay last set|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|h7|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h8|pc|s2|pc|h9|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c9|pc|cT|nt|athene: he isn't the declarer you want to double in 2@S when it's close|pg|| pc|s8|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|d2|pc|s4|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|c8|pc|d4|pc|d5|pc|d3|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c23|st||md|1SA2HK4DQJT6CAKQT8,ST87HJ9532DAK42C3,S96543HAQTD95C542,SKQJH876D873CJ976|sv|b|nt|brotherp: another hand u want if trailing|pg|| nt|jfaria: So the Danes bid game on board 18, not a good game but one that makes :)|pg|| nt|brotherp: opportunities yet again|pg|| nt|athene: when you lead the @SK you are pretty much sure to have KQ or so|pg|| nt|athene: so a defender over you with the ace can duck and he knows it probably won't cost|pg|| nt|barnets: but it could be a singleton|pg|| nt|barnets: easy for us all here to make it|pg|| nt|barnets: seeing 4 hands|pg|| mb|2N|nt|galadriel: precision style|pg|| nt|jfaria: precision 2@c|pg|| nt|thenapster: flat 3nt here|pg|| nt|glen: meckwell could very well open this S hand 1NT|pg|| nt|ritong: in the other room, east opened the bidding|pg|| mb|p|nt|athene: but if the defender under you has the ace he might be a bit more worried|pg|| mb|3H|an|.|mb|p|nt|pelu: so 3 board and 32 IMP :)|pg|| nt|athene: if you had only KQx, say, then it might cost a trick|pg|| mb|3S|nt|fokal: Thomas was looking for a @s weaker than the 2 but he only had the Jack|pg|| mb|p|nt|glen: it seems that NS use 1NT as a game force relay|pg|| mb|3N|nt|fokal: so he had to cash it :)|pg|| mb|p|nt|glen: they will ask 84 questions, then reach 3NT|pg|| nt|ritong: making things a bit easier|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 19-20 2NT here|pg|| mb|p|nt|psyck: an interesting treatment indeed|pg|| mb|p|nt|galadriel: 3NT can't make on a @S lead|pg|| nt|jfaria: @s lead.. only count 8 tricks|pg|| nt|galadriel: But after 1NT- 3NT in other room, East led a natural @C|pg|| nt|jfaria: my mac is rather slow today|pg|| nt|jfaria: big swing|pg|| nt|thenapster: so south will show 11-14 with 5332 and north will bid 3nt|pg|| nt|glen: 3NT is interesting, with 8 top tricks|pg|| nt|psyck: doesn't matter here, but we will wait & see if it makes a difference in the coming deals|pg|| nt|glen: specs voting for XX to play here|pg|| nt|psyck: he can simply play @h for 9th trick in 3N on this bidding rather than trying @d|pg|| nt|brotherp: reaching 6@H seems likely now|pg|| nt|ritong: west*|pg|| pc|dA|nt|galadriel: This auction gave West the chance to overcall @S|pg|| nt|galadriel: Ah!|pg|| nt|glen: now E is feeling the heat|pg|| nt|psyck: E wondering what the 2@h x was all about|pg|| pc|d5|nt|pelu: only 3 top-losers in 4@s but not 10 tricks|pg|| nt|glen: E hunting for a number here|pg|| nt|jfaria: again the slow approach may help E to bid on|pg|| nt|brotherp: 6@H very interesting - after D!A lead u might play for the C!K to be offside - making for a very complicated hand|pg|| nt|brotherp: looks like a possible trump-squeeze ending|pg|| nt|barnets: a spec asks did east really play a low @D with KJ|pg|| pc|d8|nt|brotherp: w ending with @s J9 , 1 trump and 2 clubs|pg|| nt|brotherp: e ending with 4 spades and bare c!A|pg|| nt|brotherp: and south being squeezed|pg|| nt|brotherp: lets see|pg|| nt|brotherp: btw sorry for the comments with the ! ---still not completely used to the interface|pg|| nt|jfaria: that would be a line for a jr on a jamed VG :)|pg|| nt|brotherp: east has a very big hand looking at the bidding|pg|| pc|dJ|pg|| nt|galadriel: now it's ok|pg|| nt|glen: he passes in reasonable tempo to keep his pd's options open|pg|| nt|psyck: S opens @h, they gf, pd surely can't be wanting to penalize 2@h...but E is the one with @h void :)|pg|| nt|barnets: it seems very odd|pg|| nt|barnets: when he had it down 1|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: yes he really played small diamond with KJ|pg|| pc|s8|nt|glen: gives up beer card early, never a good idea|pg|| nt|psyck: specs get their wish|pg|| nt|glen: in polish methods, to save beer card, the lead the @D 2|pg|| nt|glen: *they lead|pg|| pc|s3|nt|glen: if N can open that hand type in 3rd seat, S should not bid bidding 3@H on a 3-3-3-4|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s2|pg|| nt|galadriel: I can understand West - he had a second 5 card major - may have been a surprise for declarer, who obviously had a @S stop|pg|| pc|c6|nt|glen: its hard to see W taking 6@H tricks here|pg|| nt|jfaria: Lev told his story|pg|| nt|brotherp: still lev might go for beauty and play the trump-squeeze way|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c3|nt|rado: good stop by EW, 5@C needs @D finesse|pg|| nt|alok_daga: prediction.this brd will cost IMPS|pg|| nt|rado: yes N might open 4@S 3rd pos:)|pg|| nt|alok_daga: Y,7 411 MAY TEMPT HIM!|pg|| nt|thenapster: big score here|pg|| nt|brotherp: certainly after @dK lead|pg|| pc|c2|pg|| nt|jfaria: needed too much from p though ...|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg|| nt|galadriel: Agreed|pg|| nt|fokal: @s now to limit declarer to 9 tricks|pg|| pc|d6|nt|brotherp: need a c-switch now|pg|| nt|jbgood: @d = overtrick, @s = , @c = o/t |pg|| pc|dK|pc|d9|nt|glen: the @D 2 in some partnerships would indicate some values in @Ds, not the switch from 7642|pg|| pc|d3|pg|| nt|galadriel: perhaps it ws|pg|| nt|galadriel: was|pg|| nt|jfaria: easier 4 us anyway|pg|| nt|fokal: now S can do a safety play in @d (@d the the 8)|pg|| pc|s7|nt|glen: i have no idea why the @D switch was tempting|pg|| pc|s4|nt|galadriel: At least it keeps the match close|pg|| nt|pelu: but in the women play-off same baords in Final and Play off - and same cards as we have here|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sA|pg|| nt|glen: declarer can arrange a later trump endplay|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|pelu: not the best defense - better @h 10 - 3x@h and a lot of @s-tricks for EW|pg|| pc|d2|pc|s5|pc|d7|pg|| pc|dT|nt|jfaria: @h breaks the sq a kib sugested|pg|| pc|d4|nt|jbgood: 1 imp not the biggest start of a rally though|pg|| pc|s6|pc|c7|pg|| mc|10|nt|pelu: Hi, Roland, did Open Play off start before and got another set of cards?|pg|| nt|bigtrain: a trip starts with but a single step|pg|| nt|barnets: nice walter|pg|| nt|jbgood: yes...|pg|| nt|pelu: this is segment 2 out of 3 in the 3 finals , the 3 play off only 2 segments|pg|| pg|| qx|o24|st||md|2SKQT642H9754D73C7,S5HAT82DT954CK842,SJ87HQJDQ8CAQT965,SA93HK63DAKJ62CJ3|sv|o|nt|Walddk2: 16 IMPs coming to Mahaffey soon. Win some, lose some|pg|| mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1D|mb|2S|nt|Walddk2: Hope I did the correct calculation, Henry|pg|| nt|fokal: you could almost make 3NT in EW here, but you don't have the point and opponants might play in @s|pg|| mb|3D|nt|henryb: The first set, over 100 imps in 16 boards, was high scoring. They are not slowing down|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|brolucius: North reluctant to raise on that shape. I am not surprised. Wow, he has bid 4@S.|pg|| mb|p|nt|athene: 4@S must be an advance sac - but against what?|pg|| pc|dT|nt|athene: is he worried opps will suddenly discover 4@H or something?|pg|| nt|henryb: against the cold 3N or 5@d E-W|pg|| nt|fokal: In 3NT ew, you have to guess the heart |pg|| nt|Walddk2: Oliv, is 2@S forcing?|pg|| nt|Walddk2: I guess not|pg|| nt|fokal: no it's weak with @s|pg|| nt|henryb: In 3N also|pg|| nt|Walddk2: 4@S with that shape at love all is some view|pg|| nt|brolucius: Very surprising.|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Lucky not to be doubled|pg|| pc|d8|nt|henryb: -100 is a fine score|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d3|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d7|pc|d4|pc|dQ|pg|| nt|athene: you might get the hearts right on the basis that south would be unlikely to bid 2@S with @HJxxxx|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h4|pc|hA|pc|hJ|pg|| nt|Walddk2: 150 too|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|h5|pg|| nt|brolucius: It may be a fine score, but not a very fine bid, as I see it.|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h7|pc|h8|pc|s7|pg|| nt|fokal: I agree athene|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c7|pc|c2|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cJ|pc|s2|pc|c4|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hT|pc|sJ|nt|athene: well, there is one thing worth mentioning which is that if you are going to bid it, you have more chance escaping undoubled if you bid it right away|pg|| pc|d2|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|s5|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|d5|pc|c6|nt|athene: rather than Lev's 3@S-then-4@S course a moment ago|pg|| pc|sA|pg|| nt|fokal: 5D seems more likely than 3NT with 15 facing 7 and no long suit|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c24|st||md|2SKQT642H9754D73C7,S5HAT82DT954CK842,SJ87HQJDQ8CAQT965,SA93HK63DAKJ62CJ3|sv|o|nt|brotherp: in fact looking at it a spade or a club or a heart - well spotted - breaks the squeeze (blush)|pg|| nt|brotherp: only d-d makes the squeeze work|pg|| nt|jfaria: y|pg|| mb|p|nt|pelu: 800 if !§H10 - but only a diff of 2IMP|pg|| mb|2C|nt|psyck: may end with more doubles/redoubles than other bids other room|pg|| nt|thenapster: wow..3dx in open room|pg|| mb|2D|nt|rado: easy 3NT for NS10-11 tricks|pg|| nt|thenapster: looks like 1400|pg|| nt|brotherp: ok; so the Danes in the open room play this crazy club system and end up in 6@H in the East hand...|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 2NT = 19-20|pg|| mb|2S|nt|alok_daga: 2dmnds=?in their methods|pg|| nt|brotherp: dreaming|pg|| mb|d|nt|psyck: A lot of action for a mere 4 imps|pg|| mb|p|nt|glen: but lots of fun when scoring, +1240 in a loud voice, lose 4|pg|| nt|pelu: not so easy to bid 6@H in OR after Multi 2@D opening in W|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 2@C = 6+@C 10-15|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 2@S = NF|pg|| nt|barnets: 3N is a lucky make here e/w|pg|| mb|4H|nt|fabsayc: a mystery :)|pg|| mb|p|nt|jfaria: "nt must have a meaning |pg|| nt|galadriel: EW did very well to reach 6@H next door|pg|| nt|jfaria: 2|pg|| nt|galadriel: let's see if they can reach slam here|pg|| mb|p|nt|glen: aggressive 3@D here|pg|| mb|p|nt|rado: seems lie Wylkos 2@D 5M5+ unknown|pg|| nt|rado: *like|pg|| nt|rado: for Sure E tryes to attak in partner's long Major|pg|| nt|alok_daga: seems xxle=bid your next suit,thus 2dmnds=dmnds+another.cant think of anything else|pg|| nt|glen: 11 high card points, game unlikely|pg|| nt|brotherp: smooting lead for declarer|pg|| nt|pelu: a very lucky layout for EW - when @HQJ drop there are 11 tricks for EW in @d|pg|| nt|ritong: unexpected|pg|| pc|c7|nt|barnets: this could make|pg|| pc|c2|nt|brotherp: kind of hands and leads u want being ahead|pg|| nt|jfaria: hugly cards in Lev's hand, but good position of K @S still a hope|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|rado: maybe our kibs from Netherlands will help?|pg|| nt|psyck: OK, now I understand what Lotan meant when he said we can expect some aggresion by NS|pg|| nt|brotherp: not finessing risky with @d 6-2|pg|| nt|jfaria: think E is in control|pg|| nt|brotherp: wonder if he can read @d 4-lead|pg|| nt|bigtrain: trick slams are the toughest to bid|pg|| nt|fokal: oups|pg|| pc|c3|pg|| nt|jfaria: at this time i guess E already knows about W @h |pg|| nt|galadriel: strong @C auctions are very useful in these hands as they allow lots of room for exploration|pg|| nt|jfaria: indeed|pg|| nt|athene: maybe if Rodwell had bid 4@C or 4@H over 3NT (good hand for spades) they might get there|pg|| nt|bigtrain: he's not good enough for 4@C but he could make the bid if he had a better hand|pg|| nt|jbgood: everything friendly here, so will make them all|pg|| nt|fokal: does 3 @s shows support ?|pg|| nt|athene: if he would super-accept 3@H with most 4-card support then i think he is really max for spades|pg|| nt|jbgood: or "may" perhaps more correct|pg|| nt|fokal: and 2NT is 20-21 ?|pg|| nt|athene: if you just count points he only nas 19 but really that is not your average 19 count|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 19-20|pg|| nt|fokal: ok|pg|| nt|jbgood: kibs suggest 4@c over 3 NT... N's hand very suitbale|pg|| nt|fokal: in that case he is maximum indeed|pg|| nt|pelu: only 4@H in OR so 13 more|pg|| pc|cA|pc|cJ|nt|jfaria: with no oposition i guess they will reach 6|pg|| nt|galadriel: the @H10 is a big card :)|pg|| nt|jbgood: think it will - he cannot play S for 5 hearts?|pg|| pc|d3|nt|jfaria: better in @h, any imp may become precious|pg|| pc|c4|pg|| nt|galadriel: Indeed|pg|| nt|athene: ona 4-1 spade break you might still survive in slam even on a diamond lead - need @CK onside and the four trumps to have 3 hearts|pg|| nt|pelu: 45 IMP after 4 boards - that only prove, that also top-players make mistakes - and it has been some difficult board|pg|| nt|athene: then you can get both of south's diamonds away in time|pg|| nt|athene: the key to slam being so good is having two long suits to run, and a 4@C cue would not show that, but if he could bid 4@H showing a trick source and a big hand for spades...that ...|pg|| nt|athene: might do the job|pg|| nt|barnets: must guess hearts|pg|| pc|cT|nt|glen: 3NT in the other room is one of those few 3NT contracts where there are 8 tricks, but almost no hope of 9|pg|| pc|s3|pc|h4|nt|athene: but then of course south would be worried about the @CAK :)|pg|| pc|c8|pg|| nt|galadriel: well done|pg|| nt|jfaria: no swing in sight|pg|| nt|jfaria: correction, can make 7|pg|| nt|galadriel: They had one more round of bidding here|pg|| nt|jfaria: just guessing, but after the happy finding of K@h declarer will play for a split in the reds missing|pg|| nt|brotherp: luckily everything works|pg|| nt|fokal: agreed athene|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s5|nt|jfaria: he must pray|pg|| nt|pelu: NS can take the fist 3 tricks and then rest for decl|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sA|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h5|pc|h2|nt|psyck: I would double 1@c too with decent holdings in other suits, but bidding again would occur to very few|pg|| nt|barnets: still a guess|pg|| pc|hQ|pg|| nt|jfaria: putting @d Q with N|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h7|pc|hA|nt|jfaria: and God is on his side|pg|| pc|hJ|pg|| nt|galadriel: A kib is just reminding me that EW were on the Norwegian team that won the Bermuda bowl, so they are no strangers to pressure|pg|| pc|hT|pc|c5|pc|h6|pc|h9|pg|| nt|pelu: very normal - when u have 8 tricks in yopur hand - u hope for the 9. by partner - I like 3Nt by East|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d8|pc|dA|pc|d7|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o25|st||md|3S8764HKQ4D765CK94,STHAT9873DQ92CAQJ,SAQJ3HJ2DKT43CT83,SK952H65DAJ8C7652|sv|e|nt|fokal: but 3 or 4 @s seems the most likely|pg|| mb|1D|mb|p|nt|fokal: good point|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Phew, I got the 16 IMPs right, no correction needed|pg|| nt|brolucius: At least the 2@H doubled and made has lept the score interesting. We could still be in for some dramatic ending.|pg|| mb|1S|mb|2H|mb|2S|nt|henryb: With everything onside, and @h breaking, I guess 4@h can be made|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|nt|brolucius: Another bold re-opening double.|pg|| nt|athene: the layout which is nice for 4@H is also nasty for 2@SX|pg|| nt|henryb: Or they can collect 500 here|pg|| nt|athene: not that P. will pass, surely|pg|| nt|Walddk2: IMPs flying around the room. Another two-digit swing coming on 21|pg|| nt|Walddk2: 10 or 11 to Bessis|pg|| nt|brolucius: That is partly because some of the bidding has the air of a match-point game.|pg|| mb|2N|nt|fokal: it was expected , with the 1100 score|pg|| mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|nt|brolucius: 2NT probably a scramble bid.|pg|| nt|henryb: even 3N will make|pg|| nt|dburn: not sure what East is supposed to make of this - is Lev showing a good hand?|pg|| nt|brolucius: Exactly. It is difficult for him.|pg|| nt|brolucius: That is one of the problems with borderline re-opening doubles.|pg|| nt|athene: if east thought 2nt was lebensohl then west's bidding 3@H rather than 3@C as requested, must show a good hand, i suppose|pg|| nt|athene: but 2nt is a scramble for most people here, surely|pg|| mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|dburn: well, East seems to think West has something at least|pg|| nt|Walddk2: In the women's final, Turkey are walking all over the mighty Dutch ladies. 51 IMPs up! And in the seniors, Grenthe (France) is 50 ahead against Pharon (England/Sweden)|pg|| nt|dburn: and I suppose on this occasion West has enough|pg|| nt|athene: @CK, @SA, @DK onside and trumps 3-2 - you don't need the trumps 3-2 though do you? singleton honour would be ok as well?|pg|| nt|brolucius: It doesn't seem a very good auction. A re-opening double sometimes assumes that partner will have some values (because the opponents have stopped low). When partner has those ...|pg|| nt|brolucius: expected values, he should not go on bidding until the cows come home.|pg|| nt|fokal: they had a misunderstanding about the 3 @h bid|pg|| nt|brolucius: Yes, it was not clear, after the double.|pg|| nt|fokal: for E it showed power, I think|pg|| pc|c3|nt|athene: ok, so they will be abashed and shame-faced as they write in their +620|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cK|nt|fokal: lol|pg|| pc|cA|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|h4|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hJ|pc|h6|pc|hQ|pg|| nt|brolucius: A very unlucky board for N/S but they have ridden their luck on other boards. It often levels out.|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cQ|pc|c8|pc|c5|pg|| nt|fokal: just like NS in 5D on board 18|pg|| nt|fokal: :)|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cT|pc|c6|pc|c4|pg|| nt|brolucius: Yes.|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d5|pg|| pc|c7|pc|s7|pc|sT|pc|s3|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|h3|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|h7|pc|d3|pc|s5|pc|hK|pg|| nt|brolucius: Gold medals that were vanishing over the horizon are now only a few metres away.|pg|| nt|fokal: It's good that luck goes both ways . Makes the match more interesting|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d9|mc|11|pg|| qx|c25|st||md|3S8764HKQ4D765CK94,STHAT9873DQ92CAQJ,SAQJ3HJ2DKT43CT83,SK952H65DAJ8C7652|sv|e|nt|glen: if W had SK, instead of @SQ, and @Hs still blocked, 9 tricks|pg|| nt|jfaria: another possible big swing|pg|| nt|fokal: actually, it might be better to bid that directly on 3 @h |pg|| nt|athene: well, 2NT opener is well-known to be a bit of a slam killer|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 1@D = 2+ |pg|| mb|1D|an|.|mb|p|nt|barnets: e/w are doing everything right|pg|| mb|1S|nt|galadriel: Wow - EW have a huge board in open room|pg|| nt|glen: i surprised that roland has not taught this NS Flannery|pg|| mb|2H|mb|2S|nt|glen: this was a tough choice for E in the other room - if NS are playing a modern style, bidding without high card points, then EW may have game|pg|| nt|alok_daga: guess the color of the brd prevented east from entering the auction|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: all bbo tables- http://www.bridgebase.com/mobile/|pg|| nt|psyck: I'm sure he has, & hence this opening :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|glen: i can safely say that since walddk95 is not watching this table|pg|| nt|glen: 2NT will be a raise here, likely game invite values|pg|| nt|glen: 3@H will show some shape, but not much in extra values|pg|| nt|psyck: Watching or not, the F******* word is still banned in the commentators enchiridion.|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 2@H = 11-13 BAL|pg|| mb|p|nt|glen: if S had opened F******** N would know of double fit|pg|| nt|brotherp: looking at it u really dont wanna go any higher|pg|| nt|jbgood: apart from doubling 2@s - a board that was lost heavily anyhow...|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|pelu: 2@H overcall (alomst) OK - but why did East bid on in CR? - and here??|pg|| nt|jfaria: NS misplayed and 9@c provided a @d discard in open|pg|| nt|brotherp: if declarer is a (very good) guess he might even make|pg|| nt|ritong: you crow, barnet|pg|| pc|c3|nt|bigtrain: 2@S = transfer to 2NT|pg|| pc|c2|nt|rado: nice stop by NS|pg|| nt|jfaria: maybe another double game swing?|pg|| pc|cK|pg|| nt|psyck: maybe N could try 2@s on 2@d, has to have @h fit for that bid with passed hand|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sT|nt|galadriel: if he guesses the @H|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|jfaria: W x but E has lenght in @s ...|pg|| nt|galadriel: Unlikely to get it right|pg|| nt|jbgood: difficult to find the @h lead|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 2@D was a one round force|pg|| nt|pelu: ok 8 toptricks - better played by S (@hJ in dummy) - if u need u can finess in @c|pg|| nt|jbgood: not that it would have mattered much|pg|| nt|athene: he can make 12 now can't he? concede the @SA then squeeze west in hearts and clubs|pg|| pc|s2|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|pelu: just to penalyse partner - u cant exoect that u can make game - so pass to 2@H - only game on Thankgivingsday and Christmas :)|pg|| nt|bigtrain: natural usually 5+@D|pg|| pc|h5|nt|alok_daga: prediction proved wrong,4clubs=+6 IMPS|pg|| nt|jfaria: who has a short in @h?|pg|| nt|athene: if east ducks the @SA to avoid rectifying the count you can strip squeeze west the same|pg|| pc|h4|nt|alok_daga: XXLEDUMMY West gets thrown in,forced 2 play dmnds.whether declarer takes that line or not is different|pg|| nt|rado: K@C and Q@D now|pg|| nt|rado: with 52 cards:) |pg|| pc|hA|pg|| nt|rado: but declarer probably will play A@D to keep entries to Dummy|pg|| pc|cA|nt|pelu: agre, Glen?|pg|| nt|jfaria: if any|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c5|pc|c4|pg|| nt|brotherp: if he's a poor guess it's 1 off - 2 spades, 2 clubs, 1 heart and 1 diamond|pg|| nt|jfaria: strong Meckwell @c didnt help finding @c slam|pg|| nt|jfaria: Rodwell opened a systematic 2nt, no room left|pg|| nt|brotherp: match tightening up then|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: 12 for denmark|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: in 20. board|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cT|nt|jfaria: got it right|pg|| nt|galadriel: A likely 12 imps to Vito|pg|| nt|fokal: not anymore|pg|| nt|fokal: @c now :)|pg|| nt|bigtrain: from south's prespective he wanted to protect N's @S holding|pg|| pc|c6|nt|pelu: @H also break squeze|pg|| nt|fokal: operator ?|pg|| nt|pelu: first flat board : B5 :)|pg|| pc|c9|pg|| pc|hT|nt|galadriel: Oh - even more|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h6|nt|barnets: great result here e/w in open|pg|| pc|hQ|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: sry 13|pg|| pc|s8|pc|h3|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pg|| nt|ritong: well, lev is overaggressive on every occasion, it is normal that he hits now and then|pg|| nt|ritong: he also accorded -1100, for example|pg|| nt|bigtrain: have to leave now sorry|pg|| pc|dA|nt|glen: i think if it depends on the NS actually, if meckwell bid 1@S-p-1NT, they may have 10 points and we have 30|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d2|pc|d3|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d7|pc|dQ|nt|galadriel: 16?|pg|| pc|dK|pg|| pc|d4|nt|pelu: u dont have good fit for @H, a for sure only a min-min hand for invit|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d5|nt|alok_daga: wd for a gud pass|pg|| pc|d9|pg|| mc|6|pg|| qx|o26|st||md|4S2HAKQ975DT2C6532,SQ8654HJ2DQ54CJT9,SAT973HDA9863CK84,SKJHT8643DKJ7CAQ7|sv|b|nt|brolucius: Said through gritted teeth...|pg|| nt|fokal: no, even if you are rooting for someone, you can still be fairplay|pg|| nt|brolucius: The 1100 comparison has been added to the score, so that makes it a more healthy lead.|pg|| mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|nt|brolucius: What can 'Mr Invincible' Lev do with that collection?|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|athene: put it down neatly?|pg|| nt|fokal: oh I though he would have bid 2 @s|pg|| nt|brolucius: Only necessary if partner would not raise with three trumps.|pg|| nt|brolucius: Then you have to guess.|pg|| nt|brolucius: Surely too dangerous for North to bid at IMPs.|pg|| nt|fokal: low honnors are good for NT, but here I though he would have found it easier to make @s tricks in a @s contract than in a NT contract|pg|| nt|athene: well, i don't think events so far have shown any of the players to be quivering cowards|pg|| mb|p|nt|athene: so pass isn't guaranteed|pg|| pc|c5|nt|brolucius: No-one has ever accused me of being quivering.|pg|| nt|athene: if his clubs had been weaker i think he would have been more inclined to chance 2@D|pg|| nt|athene: the point being he expects a club lead against 1nt|pg|| nt|fokal: he knows he has a good scoresheets, and he knows as well that he has been toying with our "beloved and repected father" 's nerves|pg|| pc|c9|nt|athene: so if he thought that would be a disaster, 2@D would be more appealing|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cA|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|s3|pg|| nt|fokal: so no actions seems the safest way out of this :)|pg|| nt|Walddk2: 10 more IMPs coming to Bessis on 22 shortly. 4@H going down at the other table|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|d3|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|h7|pc|s5|nt|brolucius: There was no wonderful up-side to taking a risky action. N/S could hardly have game available.|pg|| nt|Walddk2: THis is a scoreline you normally see in the fourth quarter of a match, not the second |pg|| nt|athene: but this match isn't going to HAVE a fourth quarter|pg|| nt|Walddk2: 173 IMPs exchanged in 25 boards|pg|| nt|athene: so the players feel obliged to have it now|pg|| pc|sA|pg|| nt|brolucius: Roland and I often protect against the opponents' 1NT, because we are so hopeless at defending such a contract, but it is not the same for these guys.|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cQ|pc|c2|pc|cT|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dT|pc|dQ|nt|brolucius: These players like to put on a good show for the kibitzers - exactly the right attitude! |pg|| nt|Walddk2: Only 22 boards compared actually, so roughly 8 IMPs per board! 4 IMPs per board is usually good bridge, so what is this? Twice as good?|pg|| pc|dA|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dJ|pc|h5|pc|d5|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c3|pc|cJ|pc|c4|pg|| nt|brolucius: Good enough for them to fight their way through to the final.|pg|| nt|fokal: lol , I don't think you can infer how good the bridge is by looking at the IMP exchanged|pg|| nt|Walddk2: We must get some more 1NT hands in order to get the average down. I know David will approve|pg|| nt|brolucius: I was about to say the same.|pg|| nt|brolucius: As long as they are in the next set.|pg|| nt|athene: 1NT contracts can have their own brand of excitement - sometimes you don't know if it will be 90 or 120 until almost the very last card!|pg|| nt|Walddk2: So why don'|pg|| nt|Walddk2: t they comprise on 105?|pg|| nt|brolucius: I can recommend some excellent pills, Bill, if you find it all too exciting.|pg|| nt|Walddk2: compromise even|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s7|nt|fokal: a push could come from 7NT + with a double squeeze , or from 3NT+3 with awful card play|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h9|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|c26|st||md|4S2HAKQ975DT2C6532,SQ8654HJ2DQ54CJT9,SAT973HDA9863CK84,SKJHT8643DKJ7CAQ7|sv|b|nt|brotherp: strange claim|pg|| nt|jbgood: 44 imps turned over after 4 boards:) (and 5)|pg|| mb|1H|nt|fokal: 10 tricks doesn't seem possible|pg|| nt|jbgood: Peter - it looks like we are to see another combinded century this half too...|pg|| mb|p|nt|jbgood: combined:)|pg|| mb|p|nt|vugraphpl8: maybe|pg|| mb|2H|an|.|nt|vugraphpl8: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/or32runda1.html|pg|| mb|p|nt|fokal: don't|pg|| mb|p|nt|pelu: if decl play @D10 out of hand only down 1|pg|| nt|pelu: N is endplayed|pg|| nt|pelu: fore sure 11 tricks|pg|| mb|p|nt|glen: operators trained to entry two bids at a time, here W passed quickly, N thought|pg|| nt|galadriel: These high level decisions are so difficult - and can be soo costly|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/or321t7-2.htm|pg|| nt|jfaria: we all know that :(|pg|| nt|ritong: a super rare auction|pg|| nt|pelu: 9 boards - 82 IMPs - I hope that there are no children here - too much blood :)|pg|| nt|barnets: and this will make|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: w said that s passed because he wanted to go to bathroom|pg|| nt|barnets: nice pass|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: * s went to bathroom|pg|| pc|h3|nt|barnets: south will put down 6 trump tricks|pg|| nt|barnets: in dummy|pg|| nt|ritong: if rod guesses right|pg|| nt|jbgood: did 2@h show spades & diamonds? or could he have a club side?|pg|| nt|pelu: kibs tells me: "parental control" on this match :)|pg|| nt|barnets: only lead to give dec a guess|pg|| nt|ritong: oui|pg|| nt|barnets: which trump to play|pg|| pc|hA|nt|glen: the @H lead sets up 4@S, 2@H and 1@D|pg|| nt|psyck: those who open 1@c with 44 in minors have an outside chance to get to 2@c here|pg|| nt|glen: before declarer can set up his 7 tricks|pg|| nt|fokal: ok corrected|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: bad claim|pg|| pc|h2|nt|jfaria: more imps coming 4 NS|pg|| pc|d3|pg|| nt|galadriel: Even the experts get them wrong sometimes, which is a great comfort to allof us :)|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: sry|pg|| pc|s2|nt|pelu: ok last board - tx to my fellow commentators - an to a group of very active kibs :), and spec tx to the polish IT-operators who are doing an outstanding job - and finaly to out ...|pg|| nt|pelu: ecelent operator at the table|pg|| pc|s5|nt|glen: the problem for N is that he did not show a great 14 high card point hand with 2NT|pg|| nt|pelu: np - u are doing fine|pg|| pc|sA|nt|brotherp: difficult to beat|pg|| nt|brotherp: how about the !J lead (ducked) :>|pg|| nt|brotherp: @S-J that is|pg|| pc|sJ|pg|| nt|brotherp: d! suit nicely divided for declarer|pg|| nt|brotherp: @d-suit|pg|| pc|s3|nt|fokal: yes, thx|pg|| nt|fokal: N has to play @cs till he still have the @d stopper|pg|| nt|athene: it might look obvious to us to set up the clubs with a diamond entry|pg|| nt|bigtrain: but he has to play a small @C now|pg|| nt|athene: but rodwell may be worried that declarer has @CJ9xxx|pg|| nt|fokal: and I'd say that for his point of view, it's quite clear|pg|| nt|bigtrain: to keep an entry|pg|| nt|fokal: I'm guessing he is hesitating betwenn K of @c and small @c|pg|| nt|bigtrain: that is if declarer can devine the @HQ is doubleton|pg|| nt|fokal: true athene|pg|| nt|fokal: though I don't know meckwell way of signaling|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 10 is attitude here|pg|| nt|bigtrain: rev attitude that is|pg|| nt|fokal: so it can be from 10x|pg|| nt|bigtrain: y|pg|| nt|fokal: it usually is from 10x actually|pg|| nt|pelu: then better lead @CK (for count)|pg|| nt|fokal: hum|pg|| nt|athene: @C10 is consistent with @C10x so not at all obvious to rodwell that he can set up the clubs|pg|| nt|fokal: are you sure the 10 doesn't show the 9 on the Q lead ?|pg|| pc|sK|nt|fokal: (which can be from QJ ?)|pg|| pc|h5|nt|brotherp: so 8 tricks will be there now..lets see if pepsi can work some magic|pg|| pc|s6|pg|| pc|dT|nt|glen: those who open 1@C and are not playing 2+ etc,|pg|| nt|psyck: right, which is why i said outside chance only|pg|| nt|glen: now it looks like NS will cash out, since playing @Cs would not be right|pg|| nt|glen: however sometimes the defense thinks 1NT always has 2-3@S for 1NT|pg|| nt|pelu: I am told that by NS Q ask for count, and K for suit preference|pg|| pc|d5|nt|pelu: easy 8 trick - 2 @S ruff and just wait (need to take @HK also|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d7|pg|| pc|sT|nt|vugraphpl8: http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg|| nt|pelu: disc @DK|pg|| pc|dK|nt|ritong: we all see that declarer has potentially 6 trumps and two aces however, if east has underled @h J, there is a choice to make, on the lead and perhaps later|pg|| pc|h7|nt|vugraphpl8: bye|pg|| nt|pelu: but after a free bid by Jansma he could try once more|pg|| nt|glen: Balicki, with N hand for Monaco/Poland, overcalled 1@H and later bid @Ds|pg|| nt|fokal: ok now declarer can make it if he set us @s and guess the q of @h|pg|| nt|ritong: @hJ10|pg|| pc|s4|pg|| pc|d2|nt|galadriel: Well I have alot of sympathy with David Bakshi ( South in other room) for upgrading this hand|pg|| nt|glen: running scores: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/or16runda1.html|pg|| nt|fokal: ok to late for setting up the @s :)|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|bigtrain: absolutely because the Q shows either QJx (less than 4) or KQx(x) or AQJ(x) or AKQx(x)|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|cJ|nt|brotherp: we can all see that it's easy now: just play north for the @s-king|pg|| nt|brotherp: but pepsi might be inclined to place @S-king in the south-hand|pg|| nt|jfaria: and play 4 athrow in?|pg|| nt|brotherp: and then there are some funny throw-in squeeze kind of positions|pg|| nt|brotherp: yup|pg|| nt|jfaria: lets see|pg|| pc|c4|nt|pelu: if J10 of Qhs in East S cant make, så prob he will play for aytual layout|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|brotherp: and he even might look at the @s 2 as a funny discard|pg|| nt|brotherp: i see; that's more logical (@h 8 discard)|pg|| nt|brotherp: askgaard guessing for @c J9 or @S q now|pg|| nt|dburn: weird sort of position, this|pg|| nt|jfaria: if N plays a @s Pepesi must put the king|pg|| nt|dburn: even @cJ9 won't help him|pg|| nt|brotherp: and he can see @H 8 discard was more or less forced and not lavinthalish|pg|| nt|brotherp: depends on where pepsi places the @S K|pg|| pc|c2|pg|| nt|brotherp: but would north not play a spade if he didnt hold the king....|pg|| nt|ritong: well, if i decide that east has @h J0, i play the 9 on the lead and claim|pg|| pc|cA|nt|bigtrain: with QJxx he would lead the J|pg|| nt|fokal: oh ok|pg|| nt|bigtrain: not true... Q gets attitude|pg|| pc|c3|nt|pelu: I would need notes at the table :)|pg|| pc|c9|nt|pelu: or can he?|pg|| pc|c8|pg|| pc|c7|nt|glen: we don't have the beer garden scores in yet|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cT|nt|jfaria: I mean, if N plays a @s he must have the king for Pepsi win|pg|| pc|cK|pg|| nt|galadriel: (Ithink) he showed 18-19|pg|| nt|jfaria: so u must play him for holding the K|pg|| pc|s7|pc|h4|nt|brotherp: y.. but then if he doesnt play a spade it does suggest the king|pg|| nt|brotherp: windows behind windows|pg|| nt|jfaria: my point :)|pg|| nt|jfaria: lol|pg|| nt|dburn: how will declarer make the contract, if South has the king of spades?|pg|| nt|brotherp: really nice poker hand -- the 'same-ness' between poker and bridge cant be stressed enough|pg|| nt|brotherp: cross with the club and play the heart|pg|| nt|dburn: indeed - but if that would work. North would have played a spade, not a club|pg|| nt|brotherp: we discussed that.. but north might be holding uncomfortable holdings like Jxxxx|pg|| nt|brotherp: so he wouldnt 'always' play a spade without the king|pg|| nt|brotherp: they might all feel like this will be the match-clincher|pg|| nt|brotherp: 5 more boards to go in a tight match|pg|| pc|h9|nt|brotherp: mmm|pg|| nt|brotherp: now S!A seems obvious|pg|| nt|brotherp: @sa|pg|| nt|dburn: not much more obvious than it seemed before - why should South not have started with three spades and three clubs?|pg|| nt|brotherp: catering for the squeeze i mean (if south holds this distribution with @sK)|pg|| nt|brotherp: pepsi might be playing north for the club length however and still go for the throw-in squeeze|pg|| nt|brotherp: if south has 3-3 blacks he can play SA and duck a spade (they only have 1@H to cash)|pg|| nt|brotherp: but obvious was really to rash|pg|| pc|s8|pg|| mc|9|nt|ritong: now that he s got a third side trick, all this becoomes academic|pg|| pg|| qx|o27|st||md|1SK3H75DKJT4CK8643,S9875HK4DAQ96CT92,S6HAQ98632D83CQ75,SAQJT42HJTD752CAJ|sv|o|nt|Walddk2: One thing is certain; this deal will not be played in 1NT|pg|| nt|brolucius: Whatever way you look at it, it is some achievement to be 51 IMPs up against these two world-class pairs.|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: 3@H is standard in 3rd|pg|| nt|fokal: that's for sure :)|pg|| mb|1H|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4S|nt|athene: i guess 3@H pushes EW into 4@S|pg|| mb|p|nt|fokal: a bit strong, I was about to say|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|athene: was that really 1@H? 3@S suggests it was 3@H|pg|| nt|fokal: true|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h4|nt|Walddk2: Must be 3@H|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hT|pg|| pc|hA|pc|hJ|pc|h5|pc|hK|pg|| nt|Walddk2: You sure Joanna?|pg|| nt|brolucius: I was about to applud 3@H, instead of a feeble 2@H, but had to cancel the comment when they showed 1@H.|pg|| nt|Walddk2: It makes little sense that the player with a pre-empt opens at the 1 level, and the player with an opener pre-empts|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Please explain|pg|| nt|dburn: I expect North opened 3@h|pg|| nt|athene: a typical defensive problem for north here - return a club or a heart?|pg|| nt|dburn: but the bidding cards have been back in the box for some time|pg|| nt|fokal: a @h seems too radical|pg|| nt|athene: give partner @SK10x and nothing else, or @SQx and @CA, and the heart is necessary?|pg|| nt|fokal: yes|pg|| nt|athene: or @SAJ and out...etc|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Our excellent operator could have seen 3@H as 1@H. Sometimes the bidding cards are half hidden when playing with screens|pg|| pc|c5|nt|Walddk2: so she is excused if that is the case|pg|| nt|athene: of course the problem is as soon as you start trying to imagine hands for partner to justify a particular line of defence, you can always come up with some|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cK|pc|c2|pg|| nt|fokal: of course she is excused :)|pg|| pc|c6|nt|athene: but that doesn't mean it's the percentage action|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pg|| nt|vugraphpl5: you right|pg|| nt|vugraphpl5: sorry for mistake|pg|| nt|dburn: so will Thomas be, if he really played @cQ|pg|| nt|Walddk2: No worries mate as the Aussies would say|pg|| nt|brolucius: The operators have been excellent in this (very long) event. How they manage it hour after hour is amazing. An exhausting task.|pg|| nt|fokal: on board 25 they reached a game we didn't expect|pg|| nt|fokal: we though about 3nt and 5 @d but they played and made 4 @h|pg|| nt|athene: on 24 you mean?|pg|| nt|dburn: I doubt we thought about 5@d - that was a 3-3 fit|pg|| nt|brolucius: 24.|pg|| mc|9|nt|Walddk2: England/Sweden pulling some back in the seniors' final, only 36 behind now|pg|| pg|| qx|c27|st||md|1SK3H75DKJT4CK8643,S9875HK4DAQ96CT92,S6HAQ98632D83CQ75,SAQJT42HJTD752CAJ|sv|o|nt|galadriel: But it got his side to an unmakable game|pg|| nt|jfaria: my sympathy goes with yours Anne|pg|| nt|psyck: Rodwell opens N's 10 pointer in deal 9 & so they had no problem getting to 4@h|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/or161t3-1.htm|pg|| nt|glen: not sure what happened there, but it is recorded as making|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: Lev forgot system|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: td|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: 2H should be transfer on spades and this is a problem|pg|| mb|p|nt|jfaria: there seems to be a problem with Lev's system. Operator can tell exactly what it is|pg|| mb|p|nt|fabsayc: we hit those light openings so hard they were intimidated to open :)|pg|| nt|psyck: Michal, pls correct to 1NE-1|pg|| nt|glen: its tough when the almost seniors bid more than the young ones|pg|| mb|3H|mb|3S|nt|glen: now there's a young 1@S opening|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: sry|pg|| nt|pelu: still only 199 IMPs we have to wait for the 2. century|pg|| mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|nt|vugraphpl8: I told that Lev forgot that 2H was transfer on spades|pg|| mb|p|nt|psyck: np, u r doing fine|pg|| nt|pelu: pl undo |pg|| mb|p|nt|bigtrain: 2NT is takeout|pg|| nt|barnets: bid 3@S ?|pg|| nt|barnets: east 3@S|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h4|pc|hQ|pc|hT|pg|| nt|rado: another quiet board now|pg|| nt|jfaria: so it looks that the result of board 24 is in dispute|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: yes |pg|| pc|hA|nt|fabsayc: the ninth trick on the lead|pg|| nt|psyck: well, the 3rd seat opening may have kept them out of slam, not sure if they'd get higher uncontested though|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|jfaria: nothing special on this one, G/T runnig out of hope|pg|| nt|glen: anybody for 6@H?|pg|| nt|psyck: W may have needed to open for EW to bid slam|pg|| nt|glen: some specs vote for 7@H on the layout|pg|| nt|jbgood: 2 @s would have been easy - 3 a bit more challenging, but ...|pg|| pc|h7|nt|jfaria: that will add some drama to final boards|pg|| pc|hK|pg|| nt|jbgood: i think the spade lead ducked was a defensive winner|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cA|nt|alok_daga: how gud can this nt be?QJ tight in 1 suit,1 suit barren.agreed 1cl 1sp response presents problems but 1nt?|pg|| nt|athene: in theory declarer has four spades, four diamonds and the @HA but he can never untangle all four diamonds|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c2|pg|| nt|bigtrain: hard to see how he will make this|pg|| nt|athene: surely that was ace and another trump|pg|| pc|sA|nt|athene: small trump gives declarer TWO tricks - he can play three rounds of diamonds then ruff a heart and play the thirteenth diamond :)|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s5|nt|rado: will will make 10 since W cannot lead 2nd @H now|pg|| nt|alok_daga: the steamroller at work,22 IMPS lead|pg|| nt|alok_daga: 21|pg|| nt|brotherp: got to go for a moment; sorry all, its up to you Joao\|pg|| nt|brotherp: thanks|pg|| nt|jfaria: thx |pg|| pc|s6|pg|| nt|pelu: its a very hard job as operator 6-7 hours every day - they do a outstanding job - tx |pg|| pc|cJ|nt|athene: for an overtrick|pg|| pc|cK|nt|jbgood: that looks like it|pg|| pc|c9|nt|ritong: sure|pg|| pc|c7|pg|| nt|athene: ace and a trump = one down|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cT|pc|cQ|pc|s2|pg|| nt|pelu: perfect lead from Rodwell|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o28|st||md|2S6HQ987DK865CJ965,SQJT87H65432DTC73,SA952HKDAQJ3CQT84,SK43HAJTD9742CAK2|sv|n|nt|fokal: 24 sry|pg|| nt|Walddk2: The Turkish ladies are leading by 56|pg|| mb|p|mb|1D|mb|d|mb|2D|mb|2S|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|3H|nt|brolucius: A 5-card major is enough to bid 2@S, with points an unnecessary bonus. That is why you have to do more when you also hold 8 points or so.|pg|| nt|brolucius: Now East must consider a raise. He knows West is short in diamonds.|pg|| mb|4C|mb|p|nt|brolucius: His high cards are pulling full weight.|pg|| nt|dburn: not sure what North is doing here, I confess|pg|| nt|fokal: this 4@c bid may be bit too much|pg|| mb|4D|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: Another two-digit swing came on 25. This is not a dull match|pg|| mb|p|nt|brolucius: Fireworks in all directions.|pg|| nt|fokal: lol|pg|| nt|dburn: but it would be faintly ridiculous for East to do any more bidding, though he might double this|pg|| nt|fokal: yes 4@h +1 was a really good result for EW|pg|| mb|p|pc|d2|nt|brolucius: West could not have done any more.|pg|| nt|dburn: he didn't want to do any more - he didn't want to play four of a major on repeated diamond leads, and I don't blame him|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dT|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s6|pc|s7|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s4|pc|d6|pc|s8|pg|| pc|d8|pc|h2|pc|dJ|pc|d4|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|dK|pc|sT|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h3|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| nt|athene: north's main problem here is that he has only a 4-4 trump fit|pg|| pc|d7|pc|c5|nt|athene: if only he had realised that in the bidding :)|pg|| pc|h4|pc|dA|pg|| pc|c4|nt|fokal: :)|pg|| nt|dburn: this looks two down now - if declarer had started hearts, the fall of the jack and ten might have let him out for down one|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c6|pc|c3|pg|| pc|d9|nt|dburn: but what he did was completely normal - in the play, at any rate; I'm still not sure about 4@c|pg|| pc|c9|pc|h5|pc|d3|pg|| nt|dburn: but if South had five cards in either minor, it was right for North to be competing|pg|| nt|athene: yes north was imagining 1-3-(54) with south i suppose|pg|| nt|athene: but surely with that shape south would have bid more than 2@D over the double|pg|| nt|brolucius: Unusual for North to bid so high with extra points and only 4-4 shape.|pg|| nt|dburn: maybe he would, but he was raising a potentially three-card diamond suit|pg|| nt|dburn: so no guarantee that he would bid 3@d with, say, 1=4=3=5|pg|| nt|brolucius: Nor 2@D.|pg|| nt|athene: ok, but why not bid 3@C rather than 3@D, then?|pg|| nt|fokal: 2 @d shows 4 card sometimes 5 never 3|pg|| nt|athene: lets you find some magic club fit without unilateral 4-level adventures|pg|| nt|fokal: true|pg|| nt|dburn: perhaps - also lets East bid 3@d when you don't want him to|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cJ|pc|c7|pc|c8|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h6|pc|cT|pc|hT|pg|| pc|h8|pc|sJ|pc|s9|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|cA|pc|h9|pc|sQ|pc|cQ|pg|| pg|| qx|c28|st||md|2S6HQ987DK865CJ965,SQJT87H65432DTC73,SA952HKDAQJ3CQT84,SK43HAJTD9742CAK2|sv|n|nt|athene: the bidding did strongly suggest a trump lead|pg|| nt|barnets: 2 imps|pg|| nt|jbgood: for a misdef next door|pg|| nt|pelu: wow 2. century - 201 IMP|pg|| nt|barnets: north bid too much here for sure|pg|| mb|p|nt|rado: 5@S makable for EW now|pg|| mb|1N|nt|glen: interesting 2NT|pg|| mb|d|nt|glen: a bid underpowered by high card points, but the playing value is certainly 2NT|pg|| nt|psyck: good 5 card @d sequence & a couple more T's...|pg|| nt|ritong: an active double|pg|| nt|ritong: very active|pg|| mb|r|an|.|mb|p|mb|2C|nt|rado: E will try for Slam for sure|pg|| nt|glen: 3NT=abandon all hope of a major suit fit|pg|| nt|psyck: Only 18.85 KnR points though.|pg|| nt|psyck: they better stay out of grand|pg|| nt|ritong: smirnov will not pass this if it arrives to him at 2@c|pg|| nt|jbgood: strange he didnt bid at once...|pg|| nt|ritong: but will it? it seems that someone wants to bid|pg|| nt|jbgood: at least E hasnt more to offer...|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: I think in 27 board is mistake, in open room they played -2 too.|pg|| mb|d|nt|rado: maybe 2nd transfer to show slam interest|pg|| nt|thenapster: they will bid only 6|pg|| nt|psyck: for all i know grand may make with @cJ finesse & a major suit squeeze on N though :)|pg|| nt|pelu: they all wont to bid - every time :) - only very few green pass-cards in the box|pg|| nt|barnets: n/s have 9 tricks in clubs|pg|| mb|p|mb|2S|nt|galadriel: EW doing their best to keep NS out of game|pg|| nt|ritong: he finally found a green|pg|| mb|p|nt|galadriel: And succeeding!|pg|| nt|galadriel: 10 back|pg|| nt|jfaria: with 2 places to play, and the minor being @d N could double instead|pg|| mb|p|nt|jbgood: well - Piekarek has more cards than i thought...|pg|| mb|2N|nt|rado: W has good support so keeps the level low|pg|| nt|alok_daga: dont think they will have2 reach 5 East has expressed all he had 2 say|pg|| nt|thenapster: no sqeeze...south can keep 1098@S|pg|| mb|p|nt|rado: oooops|pg|| mb|3C|nt|pelu: as u see they all have 1 bid more :)|pg|| mb|p|nt|glen: nice squence by E|pg|| mb|p|nt|fabsayc: i prefer a self splinter of 4@C on second turn|pg|| nt|glen: 4@C gerber, and then 5NT, 6NT as the grand try|pg|| mb|p|nt|rado: yes always good not to risk 5 lvl, nice bidding from EW here|pg|| nt|fabsayc: perhaps east showed his singleton|pg|| nt|alok_daga: assume 3hrts,3nt meant some sort of shortage|pg|| nt|jfaria: tuff, only 2 boards left |pg|| nt|galadriel: For running scores http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg|| nt|ritong: this contract looks cosy|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c5|nt|glen: N nicely goes with a safe lead|pg|| nt|psyck: yes, major suit lead would have saved time for us though|pg|| nt|psyck: They stayed out of slam last deal other room too|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c4|pg|| nt|psyck: so it still remains a relatively low scoring affair with no double digit swings|pg|| nt|jfaria: 3nt in open this may get too close|pg|| pc|cK|nt|glen: rodwell also opening 1@S to keep it young|pg|| nt|athene: 7@C is a big bid with no trick source|pg|| nt|jbgood: a tall order|pg|| nt|bigtrain: needs trumps 2-2 if trump lead|pg|| nt|athene: sometimes even a nine-card trump fit isn't enough, if that is all you have|pg|| pc|c6|nt|jbgood: and everything falls into place|pg|| nt|athene: lots of specs are saying he does have some spades|pg|| nt|athene: yes, but he knows his partner has a spade void|pg|| nt|fokal: he can win by ruffing 3 @s|pg|| nt|athene: so it will take a fair bit of work to get the spades set up|pg|| nt|bigtrain: but needs trump do to the fact he has only 1 entry|pg|| nt|athene: 4-3 spades and 2-2 trumps means everything is happy of course|pg|| nt|athene: but it's not exactly a laydown grand|pg|| nt|fokal: but it seems he need @cs 2-2|pg|| nt|pelu: some strange results on result page: Board 2 (open) 5@D - 1 on BBO scored as +600, Board 6 bridgemate: only 2Nt +1 not 3Nt making (here i this room)|pg|| nt|bigtrain: could play for both @S onside if he doesn't think trump splits|pg|| nt|athene: there are various options in spades like @SHx with north (ruff one then ruffing finesse)|pg|| nt|athene: or just the double ruffing finesse against south, yes|pg|| nt|bigtrain: i'm offerring an alternative line|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Yesterday, Zia ventured 'Zia's Rule': "Don't lead a trump against a grand slam", he said|pg|| nt|bigtrain: it diesn't work buthe may choose it since the other option is trump 22 and @S 43|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg|| nt|athene: :) well the rule "ALWAYS lead a trump against a grand slam" is definitely a bad one|pg|| nt|bigtrain: or KQx in @S|pg|| nt|athene: but maybe zia has gone too far the other way|pg|| nt|pelu: the rule is: dont lead trump if pd has QJ :)|pg|| nt|jbgood: we can all see everything is nice, but the lead surely looks like a singleton...|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c8|pg|| pc|c2|nt|ritong: 9 on top now|pg|| nt|ritong: 3 trumps 4@ds 1@h 1@s|pg|| pc|c9|nt|barnets: match a bit closer now|pg|| pc|h2|pc|cQ|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/or321t7-2.htm|pg|| nt|galadriel: I think the Bulgarians are a young team- some have played for the national open team and some for National Juniors|pg|| nt|galadriel: Maybe a spec can tell me if I'm wrong|pg|| nt|pelu: a 2. @H trick will make the contract|pg|| nt|ritong: perhaps a @d lead would have reduced this to 8|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|h4|pg|| nt|galadriel: Ah, ok this is a Junior pair|pg|| nt|jbgood: may even get 10 now - hearts friendly|pg|| nt|ritong: yes|pg|| pc|sK|nt|psyck: he doesn't want to run @d's before testing @s as no convenient discards|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s7|nt|pelu: 2 x yesterday in slams decl missing QJxx, trumps were 2-2 and both times fines for down 1|pg|| pc|sA|pg|| nt|ritong: for that reason, probably the @d lead would not have worked|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o29|st||md|3SQ94HA854DKJT2C42,SAK3HK6DQ9874CAT3,ST75HQ93DA5CQJ986,SJ862HJT72D63CK75|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|1N|mb|d|nt|brolucius: More match-point bidding.|pg|| nt|dburn: eh?|pg|| mb|p|nt|fokal: lol look at the bidding auction in closed room on board 26 :)|pg|| nt|dburn: why would South not open 1@d in third seat? why would West not overcall 1NT, with 16 points and a diamond stop?|pg|| nt|athene: haha, yes|pg|| mb|2D|mb|p|nt|athene: rodwell bid 2@H michaels and meckstroth put the dummy down, go Meckstroth!|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|fokal: oui lls sont en equipe d'allemagne. Smirnov, outre le fait qu'il fait une tres bonne vodka :), était en junior avec nous|pg|| nt|fokal: oops private|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|s4|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s7|pc|s6|pc|s9|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sT|nt|athene: i can see why south wanted to pull the double - his problem was he didn't have anywhere to pull it to|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c3|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pg|| nt|dburn: perhaps he should not have pulled it to anywhere - it might have gone down on a high club lead|pg|| nt|athene: yes; also -180 might be your best available score on the hand|pg|| nt|fokal: last time E will be in hand , what can he do ? |pg|| nt|brolucius: Not if you pass, vulnerable, on your balanced 10-count.|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|h3|pg|| pc|h6|nt|athene: you mean - not open, David?|pg|| nt|brolucius: I was (foolishly in present company) suggesting that you might not.|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hT|pc|hA|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c6|nt|athene: an interesting idea, but too wacky for most players these days, i feel|pg|| pc|c5|pg|| nt|brolucius: Hah!|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cJ|pc|c7|nt|brolucius: I realize it is hopeless old-fashioned to make any allowance for the vulnerability nowadays.|pg|| pc|h4|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h2|pc|h8|pc|d4|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d5|pc|d3|pc|dT|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d8|pc|dA|pc|d6|pg|| pc|c8|pc|h7|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|d9|pc|c9|pc|s8|pc|dK|pg|| pg|| qx|c29|st||md|3SQ94HA854DKJT2C42,SAK3HK6DQ9874CAT3,ST75HQ93DA5CQJ986,SJ862HJT72D63CK75|sv|b|nt|galadriel: Maybe just South|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: Only N can be a Junior|pg|| nt|galadriel: My goodness - I got 49 replies all at once!|pg|| nt|galadriel: Thank you everyone :)|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: now w is very proud of 12. board|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|an|.|nt|athene: will meckstroth double 4@S?|pg|| nt|athene: i think for most people if you bid 4@H then double 4@S it just says you have a good hand for 4@H; not especially with spades|pg|| nt|jbgood: right Henri - was cold from the start|pg|| nt|barnets: run of 27 imps now n/s|pg|| mb|p|nt|vugraphpl8: :)|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/or161t3-2.htm|pg|| nt|brotherp: back|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg|| nt|athene: ok wow - i was expecting double from west|pg|| nt|jbgood: so was I|pg|| mb|1N|nt|galadriel: Only South is Junior National|pg|| nt|jfaria: wc b|pg|| mb|p|nt|glen: 4@S here doesn't work since @Hs play for two losers, and @Ds need for @C discards or there is a @C loser|pg|| nt|thenapster: and 3nt from south in heart lead also some problems|pg|| nt|brotherp: still a match it seems|pg|| mb|p|nt|glen: not sure what 2@C shows, if it did not show @Ds, might get a @D lead|pg|| mb|p|nt|jfaria: what is 3@s |pg|| nt|jfaria: another lsot game|pg|| nt|athene: well he can surely double this :)|pg|| nt|ritong: anyways, as walter underlined, every trip trip starts with one step|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|fabsayc: 2@D asks size and spade length by steps|pg|| nt|pelu: kibs tells that they watched 5@d making, so "just" wrong in bridgemate - and we prob have the correct score here on BBO :)|pg|| pc|h4|nt|brotherp: what happened to the td-board where lev made a bidding error?|pg|| pc|h6|nt|fokal: too bad , 4S may have won|pg|| nt|athene: a bit unlucky for EW perhaps; sometimes 5@C will work out much the best|pg|| pc|hQ|pg|| nt|glen: 2@C may be a game force relay bid|pg|| nt|psyck: i thought they play 1N as gf relay :)|pg|| nt|jbgood: i hope you kibs appreciate that i cannot answer all private chats... just too many|pg|| nt|pelu: so 8 IMP - the average is only 7,46|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h2|nt|glen: that was over 1@H|pg|| nt|psyck: but maybe that is only on 1@h open|pg|| nt|glen: to allow for 2@HXX|pg|| nt|jfaria: still moe if board 24 results in some kind of penalty|pg|| nt|athene: still they can't really complain about their luck too much after the previous board|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hK|pg|| nt|psyck: :)|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: running scores - http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/or16runda1.html|pg|| nt|glen: the @D queen is played to hide the location of the @D jack from W|pg|| pc|c3|nt|ritong: looks like a supplementary favorable board for the trailers|pg|| nt|jbgood: 98 imps changing hand so far this segment - and more here|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|jfaria: in open they r playing 4@d wich can make|pg|| nt|brotherp: 4D seems difficult; while 3@s seems 1 off at least|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c4|pg|| nt|psyck: so 2@c gf here & 2N further enquiry maybe|pg|| nt|ritong: good move by joe piekarek|pg|| nt|jbgood: of course 2@d in the OR was not what the audience would have landed in:)|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hT|pc|hA|pc|d4|pg|| nt|glen: now E can win this, play a @D, and get a @H through dummy|pg|| pc|c2|nt|thenapster: now e-w can attack the clubs|pg|| nt|glen: which has 1@S, 2@H, 1@D and 1@C|pg|| pc|cA|nt|jfaria: 4@d making in open|pg|| pc|c6|nt|jbgood: the club ruff takes 4@s down - guess Meck would have found the defense|pg|| pc|c5|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: running scores -http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/ofrunda1.html|pg|| nt|jbgood: but looks as if only 3 imps at stake now - for 1 down|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/ofrunda1.html|pg|| nt|ritong: ty michal|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s2|nt|psyck: yes, most defensive lines should defeat it|pg|| pc|s4|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s7|pc|s6|pc|s9|pg|| pc|s3|nt|brotherp: Lev needs to cover the @c-8 |pg|| pc|sT|pc|s8|pc|sQ|pg|| nt|ritong: we are still waiting for the first pushboard in this streetfight|pg|| nt|jbgood: now it is a downer|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: all bbo tables: http://www.bridgebase.com/mobile/ or http://www.bridgebase.com/client/vugraph.php|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d7|nt|brotherp: for 2 off maybe|pg|| pc|dA|nt|brotherp: 2 imps for Denmark|pg|| pc|d3|pg|| nt|jbgood: kibs ask for down 2 and a push|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d6|pc|dT|pc|dQ|pg|| nt|ritong: maybe the board 27 has to be corrected, though|pg|| mc|5|nt|barnets: push|pg|| pg|| qx|o30|st||md|4SJ2H7DQJ7643CK962,S87654HKJTD985CJ8,SKQHA96532DCAT753,SAT93HQ84DAKT2CQ4|sv|o|nt|dburn: you might make allowances for it at matchpoints by not opening|pg|| nt|dburn: so opening at IMPs is the antithesis of matchpoint bidding|pg|| mb|1N|nt|brolucius: One way of describing it.|pg|| nt|fokal: another distributionnal hand|pg|| mb|p|mb|2H|nt|athene: well it's good to see NO flat boards so far this segment (and no likelihood of any in the near future)|pg|| nt|fokal: they play 2 @s as natural non forcing ??|pg|| nt|dburn: unusual these days to see a natural takeout facing a strong no trump|pg|| nt|brolucius: The cards lie well for a club contract.|pg|| nt|athene: i think west bid 2@H and north bid 2@S|pg|| nt|dburn: that could easily be|pg|| mb|3H|nt|athene: if you play double of the transfer as t/o of the suit, then the cue can be michaels|pg|| mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|fokal: yeah, seemed more like it :)|pg|| mb|4C|mb|p|nt|athene: you can make 6@C here, can't you? what with things breaking nicely|pg|| nt|fokal: he was planning to bid @c even at the 5 level from the start|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|fokal: other wise he would have bid 2 @s I think|pg|| pc|dA|nt|athene: or of course you can make 4@C+2|pg|| nt|brolucius: Difficult decision for South, although we can all see the favourable breaks.|pg|| nt|athene: how about 4@C leaping michaels over 2@H?|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|c3|pg|| nt|athene: it's surprising how many situations lend themselves to leaping michaels :)|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|h7|pc|hT|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h8|nt|brolucius: Usually a singleton in partner's main suit is no asset (unless you have 5-card support).|pg|| pc|c2|pc|hJ|pg|| nt|fokal: :) don't think they've discussed about this|pg|| nt|dburn: it's surprising how many situations lead themselves to support doubles also, but this does not mean you should play either convention|pg|| nt|athene: good case for it after e.g. (1@S) pass (2@S) 4@C and so on|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg|| nt|brolucius: Michaels not so wonderful with a 6-card major, since that will often make the better trump suit (difficult for partner to judge).|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sJ|pc|s5|pc|sQ|pg|| nt|athene: David hates support doubles so much he can criticize them even on auctions where they don't appear :)|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hQ|pc|c9|pc|hK|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c8|pc|c5|pc|c4|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pc|cQ|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|c30|st||md|4SJ2H7DQJ7643CK962,S87654HKJTD985CJ8,SKQHA96532DCAT753,SAT93HQ84DAKT2CQ4|sv|o|nt|brotherp: in the round-robin they were the team of destiny - getting from about 40th to 27th (the last qualifying spot) in the last round|pg|| nt|fokal: I think 4 @s makes|pg|| nt|fokal: oin @c lead I play 3 round of @d|pg|| nt|ritong: yes!|pg|| nt|barnets: chance n/s|pg|| mb|1N|nt|brotherp: can they do it again?|pg|| nt|jbgood: it took 13 boards to register the first plus:)|pg|| mb|p|nt|jbgood: push|pg|| mb|2H|nt|psyck: Last deal, thanks all, 2nd half in about 1/2 hour.|pg|| mb|2S|an|.|nt|galadriel: Last board now - |pg|| nt|jfaria: not enough|pg|| nt|thenapster: 2cl for majors of course|pg|| nt|thenapster: e-w can make 5cl|pg|| nt|glen: hopefully S has same agreement|pg|| nt|brotherp: dangerous moment for 3@C...|pg|| nt|pelu: can Ns outbid the frenc here a bid 5@c?|pg|| mb|3S|nt|vugraphpl8: sry|pg|| nt|jfaria: but still emotion till las board|pg|| nt|brotherp: 5@C seems close now for Askgaard|pg|| mb|4C|an|.|nt|psyck: @d lead sets up 3 tricks in 5@c?|pg|| nt|glen: i thought they were out of XX cards?|pg|| mb|p|nt|bigtrain: big @C, little @D|pg|| mb|4H|nt|galadriel: Many thanks to Michal our VG operator - great job!|pg|| nt|psyck: guess a @d duck enough in 5@c|pg|| nt|jbgood: sry - 3 rounds of @d sees 4@s home - sry|pg|| mb|p|nt|thenapster: A@H is onside...|pg|| nt|thenapster: so only diamond lead have to duck like you said|pg|| nt|pelu: they are in 5@C now|pg|| nt|ritong: over opponent's transfer, bidding their suit can have two meanings, to be decided with your regular pard either two suiter or general take/out|pg|| nt|dburn: or even 4@h - I guess that will make|pg|| nt|ritong: hello david|pg|| nt|pelu: but even 4@h make|pg|| nt|barnets: north gives south choice of games|pg|| mb|p|nt|glen: @D duck is hard on a layout where N might have singleton @D and 1-2@Cs|pg|| nt|brotherp: good lead|pg|| nt|brotherp: and easy 2 off|pg|| nt|brotherp: seems to clinch victory for the mahaffey-guys|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 1@S = 4+ forcing for 1 round|pg|| mb|p|nt|brolucius: A choice of very lucky games...|pg|| nt|jbgood: and game bid narrows the gap further|pg|| pc|dA|nt|jfaria: yeap, regardless of result concerning b 24|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 2@C = 6-7 <4@S|pg|| nt|pelu: 2@S for me is @H + minor, but Meck is not sure|pg|| pc|d3|nt|bigtrain: 2@S scrambling|pg|| nt|athene: doesn't 2@C deny even 3 spades?|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 2@D that is|pg|| nt|athene: i thought they bid 2@D with 5-7 and 3 spades|pg|| nt|bigtrain: yes... mistyped|pg|| nt|fokal: might be funny if in the other West does what some kib said , doubling 4 @h, and the auction ends up in 4 @hX|pg|| pc|d9|nt|glen: unless the @D 9 holds|pg|| nt|thenapster: yes|pg|| nt|glen: and the polish @D 3 lead is best|pg|| nt|thenapster: i think after redbl|pg|| nt|thenapster: thats showes same number of cards|pg|| nt|bigtrain: <3... still dark here :)|pg|| pc|h2|pg|| nt|thenapster: we can know that north is 6-5|pg|| nt|glen: last hand of the day for Mahaffey (the player, not the team)|pg|| nt|athene: :)|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Large margins in the other two finals. Women: Turkey + 27 vs the Netherlands, and seniors Grenthe (France) +32 against Pharon (England/Sweden)|pg|| nt|barnets: 5@C is better|pg|| nt|dburn: I expect he is sure - he is just not sure which game will play better|pg|| nt|pelu: a very lucky misunderstanding - strange NS has been partners for many years|pg|| nt|barnets: as it makes with hearts 4-2 and clubs 2-2|pg|| nt|jbgood: since thay cannot attack diamonds repeatedly, the 3-3 split in trumps and 2-2 clubs makes this "easy"|pg|| nt|ritong: are you sure it is a missund, peter?|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h4|nt|pelu: NL Women missed both slams in Board 3 and 4|pg|| pc|h7|nt|athene: trump lead looks quite attractive on this auction|pg|| pc|hJ|pg|| nt|thenapster: oh...bad play|pg|| nt|athene: north will have a three-suiter short in spades much of the time|pg|| pc|s8|nt|galadriel: and to Jaoa my fellow commentator :)|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sA|nt|jfaria: thx my inspired coleague operator and fantastic kibs :)|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: and Mahaffey thinks thesame he said: oh f***|pg|| pc|s2|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sJ|pc|s5|pc|sQ|pg|| nt|thenapster: oops|pg|| pc|hA|nt|galadriel: And to all the wonderful specs for your helpful comments|pg|| pc|h8|nt|glen: oh well, best to put meckwell in the second half just in case|pg|| pc|d4|nt|jfaria: i meant first u Anne :)|pg|| pc|hT|pg|| pc|h6|nt|galadriel: Sry Joao :)|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|bigtrain: 2NT by roddy is natual, shows short @S and usualy not 5@H|pg|| pc|d6|pc|hK|pg|| pc|d5|pc|h5|nt|jfaria: a "," is missing|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: Irens is K.O.|pg|| nt|jfaria: lol|pg|| nt|galadriel: Congratulations Vito :)|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: next match at 15.30|pg|| nt|galadriel: Bye evryone :)|pg|| nt|bigtrain: thus 8+ minors|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d7|pg|| pc|cA|nt|glen: 6@C at the other table|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c2|pc|c8|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|cJ|pg|| mc|10|nt|glen: rodwell didn't bid much|pg|| nt|barnets: i dont think its any misunderstanding|pg|| nt|ritong: and the beat goes on amazing|pg|| nt|barnets: south thought norths 6 card hearts were better|pg|| nt|pelu: I dont see that S sh prefer 6-1 fit to a 5-4 fir in @C|pg|| pg|| qx|o31|st||md|1S73HQ96DKT83CJT53,SA8652HAJ8DAQJ64C,ST9HK432D75CA9862,SKQJ4HT75D92CKQ74|sv|n|nt|dburn: I am keeping count of good results vs bad results for Leaping Michaels in actual play: the tally stands at plus 10 IMPs and minus 63 IMPs so far|pg|| nt|athene: i agree the sixth card in the major might be too important |pg|| nt|brolucius: That's because they usually work well on the auctions where they do appear.|pg|| mb|p|mb|1S|nt|fokal: mor than 200 imps in 27 boards...|pg|| mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|6S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|fokal: quick bidding|pg|| nt|athene: sensible bidding|pg|| nt|fokal: tough lead|pg|| nt|fokal: who is for a @h ?|pg|| pc|h3|nt|athene: trump maybe|pg|| nt|athene: trump not often right against six but maybe it is on this sort of auction|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg|| nt|athene: too likely the @CA is getting ruffed and establishing winners in dummy|pg|| pc|s2|nt|brolucius: North will think he has struck gold.|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sK|pc|s3|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|dQ|pc|d5|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sT|nt|fokal: yes, may have been way better here|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s7|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dT|pc|dJ|pc|d7|pg|| pc|dA|pc|c2|pc|h7|pc|d8|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|c31|st||md|1S73HQ96DKT83CJT53,SA8652HAJ8DAQJ64C,ST9HK432D75CA9862,SKQJ4HT75D92CKQ74|sv|n|nt|jbgood: what makes 4@h make also makes 6 @c|pg|| mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|ritong: what about a possible 6/2|pg|| nt|pelu: if @Hs 4-2 u would all say: bad bidding:|pg|| mb|2N|an|.|nt|pelu: S can see that its not a 6-2|pg|| nt|fokal: it was in deed bad bidding, but lucky|pg|| nt|ritong: yes|pg|| nt|barnets: 6@S a good contract|pg|| mb|p|nt|pelu: if nor a misunderstandingm then just bad bidding - what do u prefer?|pg|| mb|3S|mb|p|nt|bigtrain: 1@S = 5+@S|pg|| nt|bigtrain: 2@S shows exactly a 3fit|pg|| mb|3N|nt|athene: 2nt takeout, typically 6@H 4minor i guess|pg|| nt|ritong: neither|pg|| mb|p|nt|athene: with 5-5 he would just bid his minor|pg|| nt|fokal: need pretty much @d K onside|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 3@S=14-16 HCP, some void|pg|| mb|4C|mb|p|nt|ritong: i prefer they stop the bleeding:)|pg|| mb|4S|nt|barnets: or@CA lead|pg|| nt|bobholl: east won't like this|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|athene: club ruff to beat 3@S, but even if east doesn't go for that, there is still a guess|pg|| mb|p|pc|d7|nt|bigtrain: i think 3@H was going down though|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg|| pc|s2|nt|athene: was it?|pg|| nt|jbgood: yes - on a di lead the big heart in S would give 1 down|pg|| nt|athene: you can lead a trump from dummy and then afford to ruff high|pg|| nt|bigtrain: even without that there isn't enuf communication to do everything|pg|| nt|athene: ah sorry no of course|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/of1t1-1.htm|pg|| nt|bigtrain: with only 1 entry you can't lead towards both red suits|pg|| nt|jbgood: even if E goes for a club ruff he will be endplayed |pg|| pc|sT|pc|sK|pc|s7|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s3|pc|s5|pc|s9|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d8|pc|dQ|pc|d5|pg|| pc|dJ|nt|brolucius: West was a bit good for his description, with that massive second suit.|pg|| pc|c2|pc|h5|pc|d3|pg|| pc|d4|nt|fokal: endplayed ? without cashing the last trump ?|pg|| pc|c6|pc|s4|pc|dT|pg|| nt|pelu: look at the bidding in OR : 1@S - 3@D - 6@S - and no comments from me :)|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c3|pc|h8|pc|cA|pg|| nt|ritong: lev is not a poet, globally|pg|| mc|12|nt|fokal: now it seems declarer has to guess @cs |pg|| pg|| qx|o32|st||md|2SKT82HQJT5DJ6CJ63,SA3HK7D98742CAKT8,SQ5H43DAKQT53C952,SJ9764HA9862DCQ74|sv|e|nt|fokal: well in was between trump and @h I think|pg|| nt|brolucius: That was a board to remind us that a match is not over until the 'fat lady sings'.|pg|| mb|1D|mb|p|mb|2H!|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dA|nt|athene: 2@H is 5@S4@H less than invite?|pg|| nt|brolucius: 2@H no doubt weak with both majors.|pg|| nt|athene: 5@S4+@H that is|pg|| pc|s4|pc|d6|pc|d2|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c3|pc|cK|pc|c2|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|s6|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c6|pc|cA|pc|c5|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dK|nt|fokal: on trump lead you do the @d finesse play back a trump to dummy, another finesse then As of @d D ruff and K of @c to discard a @h. You should make it indeed. (even with @s 3-1 , you ...|pg|| nt|fokal: just don't play the As of @d)|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s8|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s9|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|h5|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h4|pc|hA|pc|hT|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hJ|pc|s3|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|d8|pg|| nt|fokal: (was talking about previous board of course :) )|pg|| pc|sT|pc|c8|pc|c9|pc|h8|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|d9|pc|d5|pc|h9|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cT|pc|dT|pc|cQ|pg|| nt|athene: thanks all, fun set|pg|| nt|brolucius: Action on every board (almost) - a very enjoyable watch.|pg|| nt|vugraphpl5: thanks all|pg|| pg|| qx|c32|st||md|2SKT82HQJT5DJ6CJ63,SA3HK7D98742CAKT8,SQ5H43DAKQT53C952,SJ9764HA9862DCQ74|sv|e|mb|1D|mb|p|nt|barnets: n/s now on a run of 44v0|pg|| nt|ritong: yes lemon time|pg|| nt|barnets: 44 imps without reply|pg|| nt|jbgood: just a big swing between the teams - they are surely providing excellent entertainment!|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: w is very angry|pg|| nt|pelu: 111 IMP 1. segment, 115 now in 2.|pg|| mb|2S|an|.|nt|barnets: ever since I said e/w were playing well|pg|| nt|bobholl: not 2 @H ?|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2@S=8-9 HCP, 5+@H & 5+@S|pg|| nt|ritong: barnet, you crow!!|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|jbgood: even though Smirnow means somehting like "with peace" or the like:)|pg|| nt|barnets: that put the kiss of death on them|pg|| pc|c3|nt|jbgood: *--ov|pg|| nt|brolucius: It was hardly East's fault that the slam was missed, so why was West angry?|pg|| nt|ahollan1: their 2@H and 2@S responses are very close but 2@H can include hands with longer @S|pg|| pc|cT|nt|jbgood: we are way ahead of the OR - last one of this segment now|pg|| nt|bigtrain: i'm a bit surprised taht roddy didn't bid at this colour|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c7|pg|| nt|barnets: last board this set|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|h5|pg|| nt|barnets: when is restart ?|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h4|pc|hA|pc|hT|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hJ|nt|jbgood: 2 more segments to decide the winners - next starting in 95 mins or so|pg|| nt|fokal: NS can almost make 4 @h , do they strong NT in the other room too ?|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s5|pg|| nt|ahollan1: about 20 minutes|pg|| nt|jbgood: in 25 mins|pg|| nt|barnets: time for tea and sandwich|pg|| nt|pelu: W is a angry young man :) and easy to blame partner :)|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: he doesn't blame partner|pg|| pc|dA|pc|s4|nt|pelu: prob W feel that East is too strong to bid only 3@D|pg|| pc|d6|nt|fokal: do they play, sr |pg|| pc|d2|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|c8|nt|fokal: even her, S could have doubled 2 @h but I agree it's a double dummy bid|pg|| nt|fokal: here|pg|| nt|pelu: D normal = 5 card+ suit|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cQ|pc|c6|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s8|nt|fokal: maybe rodwell could have done something, wwhite against red|pg|| pc|d4|nt|jbgood: looked as if the @d 10 should be given the trick - for an overtrick...|pg|| nt|pelu: ok Hi all and tx to our fine operator Michal - and to kibs with a lot of comments |pg|| nt|jbgood: bye for now|pg|| nt|pelu: the scoring slowed down but only 2 flat boards so far (out of 11)|pg|| nt|pelu: next segment in 1½ hour|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: next seg at 14.00 bye|pg|| pc|d3|pg|| nt|barnets: although Bessis is leading the momentum is very much with Mahaffey|pg|| nt|pelu: and Smirnov talks all the time at the tables :)|pg|| pc|sK|mc|8|nt|ritong: well well well|pg|| nt|barnets: cu in 20|pg|| nt|pelu: kibs say: Smirnov blame himself for the missed slam :) - prob they are right|pg|| nt|ritong: so, see you all in 20 minutes or so|pg|| nt|jbgood: back in a few - see you then. bye for now|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: I think a little break will be for both teams|pg|| nt|ritong: dzieki michal|pg|| nt|ritong: have a drink:)|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: next set at 16.40|pg|| nt|pelu: tx Michal - a hard job wd|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: yes 20 min|pg|| pg||