vg|A EC 2011 Final - teams OPEN,1_3,I,1,16,Bessis,0,Mahaffey,0|
rs|4HE=,5HW-1,5DN=,4HW-1,6CS=,5CS+1,4HS+3,6HS=,3NE+1,3NE+1,3NN-1,2NN+1,3NN=,3NS+1,6SS+1,4SN+2,2HWx-1,3NN+2,3NW-1,3NW-1,2SE+1,3SW-1,6CW+1,7CW=,4HSx=,5CEx-2,2CS-1,3DN=,2SS+1,3SS-1,4HN=,2SW+1|
pn|Smirnov,Mahaffey,Piekarek,Cohler,MECKSTROTH,M BESSIS ,RODWELL ,T BESSIS |pg||
qx|o1|st||md|3SA763H52DT7CA9854,S54HAKJ9DAKQ4CKT2,SKQ98H43D9853CJ63,SJT2HQT876DJ62CQ7|sv|o|nt|rv: namaste Alok Dagajee|pg||
nt|alok_daga: Hi,RV,Peter|pg||
nt|petergill: A routine 4@h hand for EW to start|pg||
nt|rv: straightforward 4@h to begin with to calm the nerves|pg||
nt|petergill: NS Convention Card http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/ConventionCards/2009BermudaBowlBrazil/bermudabowl/germany/piekarek-smirnov.pdf|pg||
nt|rv: Mahaffey have 3 pairs, each pair can play twice if it is on rotation though I suspect Meckwell will play all 3 segments|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|rv: here we go...|pg||
nt|petergill: EW should avoid 3NT|pg||
mb|1D|nt|rv: what is 2n opening by Mahaffey?|pg||
nt|rv: looks like it is not 20-21|pg||
nt|Walddk2: stoppers in all suits he requires|pg||
mb|p|mb|1H|mb|d|nt|rv: E-W pair in OR have overreached to 5@h, chance for Mahaffey to strike early blow here|pg||
mb|4H|nt|rv: on 1m-1M, many play (3M-1) as strong (18+) @h raise leaving 1m-1M-4M to be distributional raise|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|rv: this flexibility is available on all combination of 1m-1M except for 1@d-1@h|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Seems strange that Michel made a move over 4@H|pg||
pc|sA|nt|Walddk2: Son is captain and signed off in 4@H|pg||
nt|petergill: Jim Mahaffey usually plays 2@D Multi, 2@H = 5@H and 5 other, 2@S = 5 @s and 5minor, so perhaps 2NT opening would have shown both minors. |pg||
pc|s4|nt|ahollan1: NS carding    upside-down count & attitude   spot card leads are 2nd/4th|pg||
nt|rv: Roland, son is captain of the partnership on the deal and not in the match right?|pg||
pc|s8|pc|s2|pg||
nt|Walddk2: right|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s5|nt|Walddk2: I was referring to that particular deal|pg||
pc|sK|pc|sT|pg||
nt|rv: Hi Al, wlc, must be very early back in the US|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h6|nt|ahollan1: odds against me lasting the full set|pg||
pc|h2|pc|hA|pg||
pc|h9|pc|h4|pc|hT|pc|h5|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d7|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|c1|st||md|3SA763H52DT7CA9854,S54HAKJ9DAKQ4CKT2,SKQ98H43D9853CJ63,SJT2HQT876DJ62CQ7|sv|o|nt|tsadek: ok Tokay here|pg||
nt|jfaria:  hi all|pg||
mb|p|nt|glen: complete Lavazza team is:Norberto BOCCHI, Giorgio DUBOIN, Agustin MADALA, Antonio SEMENTA, Mustafa Cem TOKAY, Jon BALDURSSON|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|jfaria:  hi all|pg||
nt|glen: hi all :)|pg||
nt|psyck: Hello everyone|pg||
nt|glen: S here has invented a 3rd @S|pg||
mb|2N|nt|Walddk2: Easy grand slam?|pg||
nt|vugraphpl8: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/or161t3-1.htm|pg||
nt|jbgood: Good morning|pg||
nt|bigtrain: good morning everyone|pg||
mb|p|nt|Walddk2: To to make at least|pg||
nt|jfaria:  a very close match, 1 imp diference|pg||
nt|galadriel: Hello everyone|pg||
nt|psyck: 2@s likely a weaker raise with 2@h a good raise|pg||
nt|glen: E has two choices: X, or 3@H|pg||
nt|psyck: with @sAx, @dK, @c doubleton, a sensible 2@s even with doubleton i suppose|pg||
nt|vugraphpl8: hi all|pg||
nt|vugraphpl8: http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Good morning everyone|pg||
nt|jbgood: 3 sessions of 16 boards to decide the winners|pg||
nt|pelu: Hi all|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Michal, Jon, Peter, Bill and Walter|pg||
nt|vugraphpl8: all bbo tables - http://www.bridgebase.com/mobile/|pg||
mb|3D|nt|tsadek: west need fit +K@C then he ask for aces|pg||
nt|pelu: here I prefer "Nt as transfer to @D (and 2@S for @C)|pg||
nt|jfaria:  weak nt and a rubish stayman by n|pg||
nt|vugraphpl8: http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg||
mb|p|nt|glen: expect 2NT to be @D transfer, and 3@C = likes @Ds|pg||
nt|glen: and now W has to decide is it a good day for not vulnerable games|pg||
mb|3H|nt|pelu: so 3@H = singleton|pg||
nt|pelu: diff when u have 2 singletons :)|pg||
nt|rado: hi all:)|pg||
nt|rado: @D lead and @S underlead Ak will beat it but unlikely|pg||
mb|p|nt|jfaria:  just in time for an exciting board :)|pg||
nt|galadriel: Well, 5@S will make|pg||
nt|jfaria:  who could bid it?|pg||
nt|glen: W may think his 4@Ss means that E has a singleton or void|pg||
mb|3N|nt|galadriel: Do you think North should bid one more? Or is he worried to push them into makingslam?|pg||
nt|thenapster: hi all:)|pg||
nt|psyck: true, but as u said, since NV, he passes|pg||
mb|p|nt|vugraphpl8: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/osw2t1-1.htm|pg||
nt|psyck: Hi Lotan|pg||
nt|thenapster: we are going to see very agressive style by the Danish pair|pg||
mb|4C|nt|jfaria:  NS found a good suit and 3nt looks noraml|pg||
mb|p|nt|vugraphpl8: http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg||
mb|4H|nt|pelu: NL in 7@d in CR|pg||
nt|pelu: standard bidding : 3@D tranfer, 3NT pass/correct, and 4@C = cue with good @hs|pg||
nt|vugraphpl8: now it's ok|pg||
mb|p|mb|5D|nt|vugraphpl8: LEV: sory partner|pg||
mb|p|nt|galadriel: From is point of view, 6 of minor could be on|pg||
nt|glen: hi Krishna, Lotan|pg||
nt|psyck: will be tough to match the aggresion of Meckwell sitting same seats other table :)|pg||
nt|thenapster: :)|pg||
mb|5H|nt|galadriel: his|pg||
nt|jfaria:  think the light opening by W succeeded|pg||
mb|p|nt|glen: what was that about fines for slow play, how about fines for slow bidding?|pg||
nt|tsadek: I like Verhees bid of 3@S in closed room , Force his pd to bid 4@C with K@C|pg||
nt|pelu: not easy when two players from so dif nations and diff style play together|pg||
mb|p|nt|jfaria:  my connection is so slow that i fear commenting one game after the one is played :(|pg||
mb|p|pc|sK|nt|pelu: 5@H ask for @DQ - better 5Nt ask for @C-cue|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|s4|pg||
nt|tsadek: 5NT here will beter than 5@H to know k@C|pg||
pc|s8|pc|sT|nt|Walddk1: Hello Rado and Martin|pg||
nt|fabsayc: hi Rado, spectators|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s5|pg||
nt|pelu: that sh be impossible - a NT-hand who bid again |pg||
pc|cA|nt|rado: hello:)|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|c7|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|o2|st||md|4SJH7532DJ63CKT854,S74HAJT984DQ92C96,SA8653HDAKT54CQ32,SKQT92HKQ6D87CAJ7|sv|n|nt|petergill: N encouraged @S at Trick 1. If North had @CQ, N might discourage @S at Trick 1, to try to get S to underlead @CA at Trick 2|pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|mb|4D|nt|rv: in my view, West's hand is worth transfer to @h at 2 level and raise to 3 level as Invite|pg||
mb|d|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: other tables visible via  http://www.bridgebase.com/client/vugraph.php  or  http://www.bridgebase.com/mobile/|pg||
nt|rv: 4 level transfer is bit aggressive though it may not cost since N-S can make partial at the 4 level|pg||
mb|p|nt|petergill: 4@D transfer to 4@h. |pg||
mb|4H|nt|rv: not sure if Cohler's pass something specific|pg||
nt|petergill: East passed 4@D as he did not want to be declarer on a @D lead|pg||
nt|ahollan1: PASS just says   you can declare if positional @D value|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Mahaffey could have forced the transfer via RDBL|pg||
nt|Walddk2: And redouble is a retransfer|pg||
nt|Walddk2: snap|pg||
nt|petergill: If N now bids 4@S, S will give preference, with the Dbl of 4@d probably showing @D|pg||
nt|rv: Piekarek's double of 4@d may just show @ds for starters, some play such doubles as t/o of @h suit,  but may not be able at high level|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Gitelman-Moss had a disaster on an auction like this not so long ago|pg||
nt|Walddk2: When one of them redoubled and the other one thought it was to play|pg||
mb|d|mb|p|nt|petergill: At the other table, N was allowed to bid his hand at a lower level, not made to guess like this|pg||
nt|ahollan1: would 4@H from Piek show @S + minor?   if so, was that a better route than starting with DBL|pg||
nt|Walddk2: 4@D dbl  redouble   it was|pg||
nt|rv: it is important for partnerships to sort it out whether double of 4@d is just @ds or t/o of @h, meaning of subsequent double depends on earlier intrepretation|pg||
nt|petergill: Difficult guess for S now - to bid or pass |pg||
nt|petergill: Jim Mahaffey's direct approach could be on 7 hearts and no HCP - the direct jump makes NS guess |pg||
nt|rv: Smirnov may take push to 5 level with 4n which could show primary @cs with @d tolerance|pg||
nt|petergill: As Jim's teammates Meckwell might say, the aim of the bidding is to give the opponents more guesses than your side |pg||
nt|ahollan1: and prefer giving opp the LAST guess|pg||
nt|petergill: The play of 5@c or 5@D could be very interesting indeed|pg||
nt|rv: my preference is to play double of 4@d as showing @d and subsequent double as t/o of @h|pg||
mb|4N!|nt|rv: at lower levels say (1M)-(3m) showing variety of raises, I prefer to play double as t/o of M|pg||
mb|p|nt|petergill: Only one top loser in 5m, but defence can tap NS by leading @H, making play tricky|pg||
nt|rv: Smirnov has chosen the option suggested showing primary @cs with @d tolerance|pg||
nt|petergill: I think 5m will be allowed to play undoubled and might make, but the play could take longer than the bidding|pg||
mb|5D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|rv: which minor strain plays better double dummy?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: depends which tap the defense starts, doesn't it?|pg||
nt|petergill: Piekarek is ranked 16th best player in the world, his playing record is at http://www.wbfmasterpoints.com/playerdetail.asp?Code=5722|pg||
pc|hK|nt|rv: normally better to play in strain of weaker hand (5@c here) which may not have entry otherwise|pg||
nt|rv: I suspect 5@c plays better here|pg||
nt|petergill: 5@D happens to be easier to play than 5@C - Piekarek probably worked that out in the bidding, that @H's being ruffed by clubs makes 5@c awkward to play|pg||
nt|ahollan1: oh right   Piek was always going to declare after 4N|pg||
nt|petergill: Sorry, Piekarek is  17. His partner Smirnov is ranked 27 in the world - his record is at http://www.wbfmasterpoints.com/playerdetail.asp?Code=8651|pg||
nt|rv: 5@d could play better as suggested by many specs since 5@c could be very difficult to handle on @h lead|pg||
pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|d4|pg||
nt|petergill: Lots to think about, including that East's Pass of 4@d might suggest no high @D's|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|petergill: though with @DQxx or Qx, East might still Pass 4@DX round to partner|pg||
nt|rv: Cohler's best defense is possibly to duck this and next round of @cs as well|pg||
nt|petergill: Set up the side suit first = usually best strategy|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|c6|pg||
pc|c7|pc|cT|pc|c9|pc|c2|pg||
nt|rv: now making |pg||
nt|petergill: East might be thinking that N might be 4054 on the bidding - no, then N would bid 5@C over 4NT, so N must be 5053 or 4063|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s4|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg||
nt|rv: Cohler should have done ducked @cQ, can't hurt|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s9|pc|d3|pc|s7|pg||
nt|petergill: Spade overruff looming ...|pg||
nt|rv: Piekarek might still get it wrong unless he runs @DJ now|pg||
pc|h3|nt|petergill: Danger if N does any more cross ruffing|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|d5|pc|h6|pg||
pc|s5|pc|sT|pc|dJ|nt|petergill: EW play standard carding, standard count|pg||
pc|dQ|pg||
pc|h9|pc|dT|pc|hQ|pc|h5|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d7|pc|d6|pc|d2|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d8|pc|h7|pc|d9|pg||
pc|c3|pc|cJ|pc|cK|pc|h4|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|c2|st||md|4SJH7532DJ63CKT854,S74HAJT984DQ92C96,SA8653HDAKT54CQ32,SKQT92HKQ6D87CAJ7|sv|n|nt|fabsayc: lucky not to be doubled|pg||
nt|jfaria:  obviously N was afraid of doing something weird|pg||
nt|galadriel: These high level decisions are so difficult|pg||
nt|jbgood: couldnt agree more, Peter|pg||
mb|1S|mb|p|nt|glen: we the mention of meckwell we are now down to 2 specs|pg||
nt|psyck: lol|pg||
mb|1N|nt|rado: again some action with all hands non-balanced|pg||
nt|rado: N may bid @C 1st hoping to introduce @S later by DBL , or direct start with DBL|pg||
mb|2D|nt|pelu: I am told that some play that 3@H = 3+ @hs and 3Nt a mild slam-invite|pg||
mb|d|nt|vugraphpl8: http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg||
nt|vugraphpl8: all bbo tables - http://www.bridgebase.com/mobile/index.php?r=348267|pg||
mb|3D|nt|thenapster: the danish pair is playing 4h in borad number 1...probably 5 imps for the amercians as a start|pg||
mb|4H|mb|p|nt|jfaria:  @d keep being a safe rescue for nt oppeners .)|pg||
mb|p|nt|alok_daga: Hi all|pg||
nt|galadriel: They will get to 3NT here|pg||
nt|galadriel: which is a tricky contract|pg||
nt|galadriel: plenty of HCP but no real source of tricks|pg||
nt|jfaria:  y, trick power in every suit|pg||
nt|jfaria:  probably will get a favourable lead|pg||
mb|p|pc|dK|nt|rado: hi|pg||
pc|d7|nt|pelu: but with 6HCOP East could never invite for slam - so prob a misunderstanding - we will prov know later|pg||
nt|athene: hi good morning everyone|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d9|pg||
nt|glen: some partnerships have given up game invites on the N type hands, just blast 4@S and hope the unknown nature of the hand can help|pg||
nt|psyck: 4@h had play, but mostly double dummy, so as you say, likely -1|pg||
nt|thenapster: not a good descion to bid 4cl..that will go -3 instead of 3sp down|pg||
nt|glen: it don't like 4@C on the 3-2-2-6|pg||
pc|dA|nt|glen: here the 3@h and then 4@S indicates a stonger idea|pg||
nt|jfaria:  big swing first board|pg||
pc|d8|nt|brotherp: hi all|pg||
nt|brotherp: lets see if Denmark can come back|pg||
pc|d6|nt|glen: but hard for N to find the perfect cards in the S hand for slam|pg||
pc|d2|pg||
nt|glen: good duck at trick 1|pg||
nt|pelu: pl Kibs - can u tell: was 3Nt slaminvite or just Pass/correct?|pg||
nt|bigtrain: what the heck is a zt penalty?|pg||
pc|c2|nt|glen: greco-hampson (in another match) reached 3@S|pg||
nt|galadriel: They got X'd in 5@S in other room for 850|pg||
nt|jfaria:  double game swing outch!|pg||
nt|galadriel: Interestingly, it was South who competed to 5@S|pg||
nt|Walddk5: Both pairs play Precision. I think I can find EW's CC, one moment|pg||
nt|bigtrain: sorry|pg||
nt|bigtrain: privaye|pg||
nt|bigtrain: private|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|glen: now what does S do?|pg||
nt|jbgood: no need to say this will not make - but all of a sudden you see defenders going astray - not here though|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c6|pg||
pc|c5|nt|glen: and their opps did likewise|pg||
pc|c9|nt|brotherp: hi joao|pg||
pc|c3|pc|cA|pg||
nt|thenapster: so 5-0 for Maheffey after the first board of the segment|pg||
nt|psyck: The @h's not dgood enuf, so while the 1st endplay worked, 2nd will not help |pg||
nt|psyck: so likely -2 now|pg||
nt|thenapster: yes|pg||
mc|9|nt|alok_daga: the last hand,a pretty hand 2 defeat 5hrts,wud require gud defence|pg||
nt|Walddk5: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/ConventionCards/2009BermudaBowlBrazil/bermudabowl/norway/groetheim-tundal.pdf|pg||
pg||
qx|o3|st||md|1SAK76HKJ962DQ3CAT,SQT85432HQ43D96C4,SJHDAKJ2CQJ987632,S9HAT875DT8754CK5|sv|e|nt|ahollan1: we can see @DQ onside and trump 32   but declarer expected Mahaffey to be distributional and for Cohler to have @DQ|pg||
nt|petergill: N had complete count - perhaps not overruffing in @d might make life harder for N|pg||
nt|rv: Cohler could have ducked 2 round of @cs or taken second round of @cs and given ruff to beat contract|pg||
mb|1H|nt|petergill: E had 5 @S, 3 @C (when @C10 held) and 3 @H ---> @d 2-2, assuming @H 6-3|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1@H=11-18 HCP, 5+@H   [maybe stronger if good 2-suiter]|pg||
nt|rv: really shapely hand, N-S make slam in @cs|pg||
mb|2S|nt|rv: as cards are, even 13 tricks available in @c strain|pg||
nt|petergill: If Cohler plays @HQ, not @H6 on 2nd @H, N does not have 100% count of the EW hands|pg||
mb|2N|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2N=@C|pg||
mb|3C|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: now what?|pg||
nt|petergill: Adverse vulnerability rules out 3@S, and would rule out 2@S for some conservative bidders|pg||
mb|3D|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: the science of bidding 8410   i'm not sure that chapter has been written yet|pg||
mb|3N|mb|p|nt|rv: I am not sure if North is forced to bid again on South's 3@c, if not South should have made a stronger bid by crossing 3@c|pg||
mb|4C|mb|p|nt|petergill: 4@S cue now might encourage N to risk 6@C, but|pg||
mb|4H|nt|rv: transfer advance is usually played as Inv+ in which case opener cannot just bid responder's suit with extras|pg||
mb|p|nt|petergill: S has not yet shown extras, and @DQ (if missing) is likely to be offside on EW's bidding, so perhaps only 5@c|pg||
nt|petergill: especially as S has to cue 4@H in case N has: void, xx, AK, KQJ98xxxx or the like|pg||
nt|rv: in my view South should have bid 4@s instead of 4@h to show strong slam interest|pg||
nt|petergill: 4@H cue = 1st or 2nd round @H control, denies 1/2 round @D control|pg||
mb|4S|nt|ahollan1: or would 4@D set that as trump?|pg||
nt|petergill: 4@s cue, 1 or 2 round control |pg||
mb|p|nt|petergill: You cue in sequence - if S bypassed 4@H, his @H would be queen high, a lie |pg||
mb|5D|mb|p|mb|6C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|petergill: I think 5@D was a cue of @DQ, but am not sure|pg||
nt|petergill: S had a terrific hand for his bidding, so he was happy to bypass 5@C|pg||
pc|d9|nt|rv: all is well that ends well, N-S have reached optimum contract single dummy|pg||
nt|ahollan1: this is very impressive result|pg||
nt|petergill: Sorry, 4@S was RKCB for clubs and 5@D was 2 with no queen|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d3|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c5|pc|cA|pc|c4|pg||
nt|rv: 7@c is slightly less than 50% and not good grand slam (GS), Little slam (LS) is the correct contract|pg||
mc|12|pg||
qx|c3|st||md|1SAK76HKJ962DQ3CAT,SQT85432HQ43D96C4,SJHDAKJ2CQJ987632,S9HAT875DT8754CK5|sv|e|nt|thenapster: meckstroth was very agressive in board number 2 to bid 4sp by S after e-w reached 4cl|pg||
nt|brotherp: betting Meckwell will bid game|pg||
nt|pelu: now I have 15-3 for p/c :)|pg||
mb|1C|mb|p|nt|galadriel: was that really 11 tricks?|pg||
nt|jfaria:  impossible|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 1@C = 16+ any shape|pg||
mb|1N|an|.|nt|vugraphpl8: http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 1NT = 5+@C GF|pg||
mb|p|nt|rado: disciplinned pass by S non vuln vs Vuln|pg||
nt|jfaria:  only in another movie :)|pg||
nt|galadriel: I thought it was 9 only|pg||
nt|glen: running scores: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/or16runda1.html|pg||
nt|psyck: @d lead may have been needed to defeat 4@s|pg||
nt|vugraphpl8: all bbo tables - http://www.bridgebase.com/mobile/index.php?r=251836|pg||
mb|2C|an|.|nt|pelu: 18 kibs: 15 vote for pass/correct 3 for slaminvite :) - I just for their system - not votes :):)|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 2@C = 5+@H|pg||
mb|p|nt|alok_daga: Qx,Qx,hardly an opening hand,M also 2 2|pg||
nt|Walddk5: Michal, you sure?|pg||
mb|2D|an|.|nt|bigtrain: 2@D = <3@H good hand|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 2@S = natural|pg||
mb|p|nt|pelu: here NL had 5½ bidding-round to find 4@S with 6@s almost cold|pg||
nt|Walddk5: Only 1 IMP in it, but that could be important with the scoreline this close|pg||
nt|Walddk5: Corrected now|pg||
nt|vugraphpl8: sry bad claim|pg||
nt|Walddk5: np|pg||
nt|brotherp: ending up in 2@s|pg||
mb|2S|nt|glen: in the other room EW made six bids without @S, but then accidently bid the suit to play there|pg||
nt|rado: we've seen many wild openings those days:)|pg||
nt|psyck: well, if they just play trump, that may also work|pg||
nt|glen: sadly all bbo tables do not fit nicely into my iphone :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|glen: the 4@S bid here will be enough to get to slam now|pg||
nt|glen: even though EW are just temporary italians, they will use roman keycard blackwood|pg||
nt|pelu: for sure ita not easy to find out that the hands fit so well|pg||
nt|glen: Q. what is 2NT, A. unknown to us, but likely forcing game try, that in this case is a slam try|pg||
mb|3C|nt|tsadek: 2NT want to know 2@S with 3card or 4card|pg||
nt|pelu: 2NT could be invit+|pg||
nt|tsadek: 4@S max 4card @S|pg||
nt|jfaria:  they always do , the making games and all the others :)|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 3@C = natural|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 3@D = waiting|pg||
nt|bigtrain: although he may just gamble 3NT|pg||
mb|p|nt|alok_daga: True,Rado,the openings r getting wilder by the day|pg||
nt|galadriel: Thanks :)|pg||
nt|jfaria:  "wrong sided" in open got a @d lead|pg||
nt|glen: yikes to that X|pg||
mb|4C|nt|glen: wow|pg||
nt|pelu: if so, then 4@s stronger than 3@s|pg||
nt|glen: or in this case, reverse wow|pg||
nt|fabsayc: the funny thing is the light to wild openings don't seem to ever work, one wonders the attraction|pg||
nt|alok_daga: Query,wud u sell 2 a 2dmnds or xle from Easts hand?P marked with strength|pg||
nt|rado: Declarer mau like @c continuation|pg||
nt|athene: @CA10 is pretty good support|pg||
mb|p|nt|psyck: :)|pg||
nt|psyck: it would not occur to me for sure at this vul|pg||
nt|athene: given partner has bid the suit twice|pg||
nt|fokal: here they can make 6 @c (even 7 ! ). Can they reach it ?|pg||
nt|fokal: 4 @c will defnetly help|pg||
mb|4D|an|.|nt|jbgood: sure they will bid 6@c|pg||
nt|athene: 4@D rkcb?|pg||
mb|p|nt|fabsayc: east does not have a second bid|pg||
nt|rado: 3 rounds of @C now|pg||
mb|4N|nt|pelu: its difficult - I dont expect many tables will bid this slam|pg||
nt|brotherp: declarer will go after @h's|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 4@C surprises me a bit with 5422 minimum...  thats why i expected 3@D|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 4@D = rkc|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 4NT = 2 no Q|pg||
mb|p|nt|jfaria:  E and N bidding @h first meaning @s |pg||
mb|5C|mb|p|nt|galadriel: West would be ruffing with his natural trump trick|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|pelu: how can u ask with void in H?|pg||
nt|athene: i guess meckstroth decided that after his partner showed extras *and* rebiddable clubs, 5@C was going to be safe, despite the poor diamond holding|pg||
pc|d9|nt|jbgood: so i was wrong - again:)|pg||
nt|bigtrain: they don't have exclusion available in the auction|pg||
pc|d2|nt|fokal: everybody told, 6 they bid for sure|pg||
pc|d4|pc|dQ|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c4|nt|alok_daga: If u follow Mike Lawrence he shud be competing!|pg||
nt|galadriel: last trick for the defence|pg||
pc|c2|nt|jfaria:  1 imp back|pg||
pc|c5|pg||
mc|12|nt|brotherp: short of a chinese finesse|pg||
nt|athene: hard when your useful void is in partner's first-bid suit|pg||
nt|fokal: let me tell to the kibs, that the players don't see the 4 hands , even the world masters|pg||
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qx|o4|st||md|2SAK2HKQJT96DKCAJT,SJT8763H3DAQ7C876,S9HA75DJT854CK942,SQ54H842D9632CQ53|sv|b|nt|petergill: My source is Alex Smirnov's bridge partner when Alex plays bridge in Australia|pg||
nt|ahollan1: oh    hiya Andy|pg||
nt|petergill: NS have practised bidding endlessly to make themlselves into one of the best partnerships in the world. |pg||
nt|rv: do they play 4@s as RKC for @c/@d/@h and 4n RKC for @s?|pg||
mb|2D|nt|ahollan1: rules aren't nearly that simple RV|pg||
nt|petergill: Another challenging bidding hand for NS - Meckwell passed with flying colours - our table might take a bit longer.|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2@D=weak 2@H or 2@S opener|pg||
nt|rv: more popular is kickback convention where suit above fit suit is RKC (4@D-->RKC for @c, 4@h-->RKC for @d, 4@s--->RKC for @h)|pg||
nt|petergill: 4@S RKCB when clubs are trumps|pg||
mb|2H|mb|d|nt|petergill: Ref page 2 of their CC http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/ConventionCards/2009BermudaBowlBrazil/bermudabowl/germany/piekarek-smirnov.pdf|pg||
nt|rv: tough to get to slam for N-S after this start to auction|pg||
mb|2S|nt|petergill: 2@D Multi|pg||
nt|petergill: 2@H Pass or Correct|pg||
nt|petergill: Compared to other table, much harder for NS to bid 6@H after this start|pg||
nt|rv: what does panel play double of 2@h here? is it t/o of @hs or bal extras?|pg||
nt|petergill: An interview with Alex Smirnov is at http://www.abf.com.au/events/not/2011/bulletins/12Sun30.pdf|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Andy says NS use it as either/or   so Smirnov either long @H or takeout of @H |pg||
mb|3D|mb|p|nt|rv: some play double of 2@h as showing t/o of @h or very strong to do anything else|pg||
mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|rv: 3@d by Piekarek could show Inv values if he could have competed via 2n (lebensohl)|pg||
nt|rv: not sure of N-S treatment on this auction, maybe Smirnov could have tried 5@h instead of 4@h|pg||
pc|c8|nt|rv: if partner's 3@d show values with not much wastage in @s, Smirnov could have risked 5@h|pg||
pc|c2|nt|Walddk2: It looks like 6@H depends on a club guess if no club lead, but you can try to set up diamonds first, and you will succeed|pg||
pc|c5|pc|cJ|pg||
nt|petergill: Meckstroth's card play technique in 6@h was flawless (of course) - @S lead, @DK at Trick 2, and if need be, he could ruff the spade winner to set up the 5th @D |pg||
pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s9|nt|ahollan1: 3 boards   3 double-digit swings     quite a change from the quiet 2nd half of semi-final|pg||
pc|s4|pg||
nt|rv: great start to match, to bring cricket analogy four 6s in first four balls:)|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s8|pc|hA|pc|s5|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|h3|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|sJ|pc|h7|pc|h4|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|c7|pc|d4|pc|h8|pg||
pc|hT|nt|Walddk2: Yes rv, but one was a no-ball|pg||
nt|petergill: Pessimists say: 4 boards in 50 minutes = slow, optimists say: 45 imps in 50 minutes = how exciting|pg||
pc|s6|pc|d5|pc|d2|pg||
pc|h9|pc|s7|pc|d8|pc|sQ|pg||
pc|h6|nt|petergill: Sorry, only 44 imps ...|pg||
pc|d7|pc|dT|pc|d3|pg||
pc|sK|pc|sT|pc|dJ|pc|d6|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c4|pc|c3|pg||
pc|cT|pc|dQ|pc|cK|pc|cQ|pg||
pc|c9|pc|d9|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg||
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qx|c4|st||md|2SAK2HKQJT96DKCAJT,SJT8763H3DAQ7C876,S9HA75DJT854CK942,SQ54H842D9632CQ53|sv|b|nt|thenapster: 5 imps back to demark in board 2|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|thenapster: denmark* of course|pg||
nt|glen: this should be the big @C opening|pg||
mb|p|nt|alok_daga: Shud be dead push,this brd|pg||
nt|thenapster: 16+|pg||
nt|athene: rodwell just decided to go with the odds - that one of partner's keycards was the @HA|pg||
mb|1C|an|.|nt|psyck: S passes to show some 0-4 maybe|pg||
nt|glen: S will pass as many times as legal on the auction|pg||
nt|bigtrain: well i guess they could jump to 5@H but that commits them to slam :)|pg||
mb|1S|nt|pelu: Denmark and Hungary (against Monaco) bid 6@s|pg||
nt|glen: how good was the 6@H contract?|pg||
nt|glen: with @D KT doubleton, was nice layout|pg||
nt|rado: now some quiet board 4@S for just|pg||
nt|brotherp: sort off a @s-partial for NS; wonder if they will enter the bidding though|pg||
mb|2D|an|.|nt|tsadek: 6@H will be great from N side|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 1@C = 16+|pg||
mb|p|nt|glen: or runout to @Cs|pg||
nt|psyck: most play some artificial bids on strong @c, but 1@d not alerted|pg||
nt|glen: EW is a sponsor-pro partnership, and they tend to try to keep things error free, let the meckwells win the imps|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 2@D = nat|pg||
mb|2H|nt|athene: 2@S overcall might cause a little more trouble|pg||
nt|fokal: well I have to say that it's quite surprising that they didn't reach that slam after the 4 @c bid, but I was still though to give value to the void in partner suit|pg||
nt|athene: but he decided the risk/reward ratio not good enough|pg||
mb|p|nt|galadriel: This may not be everyone's opening|pg||
nt|jfaria:  6 on a finesse?|pg||
nt|galadriel: And will probably get them to slam|pg||
nt|jfaria:  well EW got kucky with a light opening first board|pg||
nt|galadriel: My view is that, if it is your partnership style to open these hands, that's fine, but the system must have good brakes|pg||
nt|jfaria:  hard to stY OU NOW, WITH W HAND|pg||
nt|jfaria:  sry capps|pg||
nt|glen: oh, S did not run out|pg||
nt|jfaria:  Denmark must feel loosing some ground but they r dealing with avery tuff pair in this room|pg||
nt|pelu: ok a bet: this time NS will bid slam :)|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 2@H is nat (coincidentally) asking|pg||
mb|2N|an|.|nt|bigtrain: meckwell are fairly conservative slam bidders|pg||
nt|athene: "there are lots of ways to win imps with +680" as meckstroth says in his book :)|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 2NT = any 3fit|pg||
mb|p|nt|rado: :)|pg||
nt|psyck: yeah, quite a view|pg||
nt|psyck: S not liking his options at all|pg||
nt|psyck: 3@c could be too high, with 2@d going down|pg||
nt|pelu: 2 @D ruff will set up @D then no need to find @cQ|pg||
mb|4S|nt|glen: he could now bid 1@C - that would get partner to stop these doubles and play the contract|pg||
mb|p|nt|jfaria:  nebulous @d opening in precision|pg||
mb|5C|nt|jfaria:  all this must be scientific and of c forcing|pg||
nt|galadriel: I guess 2@C is GF|pg||
nt|vugraphpl8: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/or321t7-2.htm|pg||
nt|Walddk5: 1@H is 4+ spades or a GF relay|pg||
nt|brotherp: meck bid game as expected in the open room; Denmark need to get something going|pg||
mb|p|nt|Walddk1: 2 segments of 14 boards in the R32, R16, QF and SF. 3 x 16 in the finals on Wednesday|pg||
nt|glen: it is like the pass over 1@D showed some values|pg||
nt|psyck: i dont understand 3N at all, N already showed his hand|pg||
nt|brotherp: and this is not what they need - although u might say opps have missed game (5@D seems unbiddable though)|pg||
nt|bigtrain: meck has a rule...  the 480-50 rule|pg||
mb|6H|mb|p|nt|Walddk5: 1NT  11-13|pg||
nt|galadriel: 1@H is nat or GF, I'm told|pg||
nt|thenapster: very bad|pg||
nt|fokal: yes they should reach this one|pg||
mb|p|nt|Walddk5: No, 4+ spades or GF relay|pg||
nt|Walddk5: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/ConventionCards/2009BermudaBowlBrazil/bermudabowl/norway/groetheim-tundal.pdf|pg||
nt|jfaria:  only @d lead will cooperate with EW goal|pg||
nt|galadriel: I somehow don't think that will happen...|pg||
nt|thenapster: no dbl no trouble|pg||
nt|psyck: 3@c could have even made with @h fin , this is prayerless|pg||
nt|brotherp: difficult for West to rightly appraise the bare @h Ace|pg||
mb|p|nt|fokal: 4@s was rkcb in @h ?|pg||
nt|bigtrain: meck has a rule - "the 460-50 rule" it's much better to be +480 then -50|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 580-50|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 480-50|pg||
pc|sJ|nt|jfaria:  good thing 4 N nerves, he must stil be depressed by B15|pg||
pc|s9|pc|s4|pc|sA|pg||
nt|pelu: need on 3 entries: @S-ruff, @HA and later @CK|pg||
pc|dK|nt|rado: Defense should continue @H to stop overtrick now|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 4@S is RKC here|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d4|nt|jfaria:  can see nothing besides @d hook|pg||
nt|galadriel: Nor can I|pg||
pc|d2|pg||
nt|Walddk5: I see 11 IMPs to Bulgaria|pg||
pc|s6|nt|jfaria:  but W will try to get as much count as he can|pg||
pc|h5|nt|psyck: well, no entry for @h fin in the 1st place though :)|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s2|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|psyck: so just traded -1 for -2 or so, no big deal undoubled|pg||
pc|d9|pc|h6|pc|d7|pg||
pc|hT|pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d6|pc|hJ|pc|dQ|pg||
mc|12|nt|jbgood: nice|pg||
nt|vugraphpl8: http://www.bridgebase.com/mobile/|pg||
nt|vugraphpl8: http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg||
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qx|o5|st||md|3SJ8HQJ5D9754CA982,SAT6H643DAK83C765,S742HKT98D62CKJ43,SKQ953HA72DQJTCQT|sv|n|nt|petergill: If you miss any small slam or vul game, playing to make one trick more than the other table always saves 1 imp if they are in your unbid slam/game|pg||
nt|ahollan1: so we've proven with one hand in a row that sometimes  "multi" works|pg||
mb|p|nt|petergill: so the overtrick is worth playing for|pg||
mb|1N|nt|Walddk2: If we get a two-digit swing here as well, I would be surprised|pg||
mb|p|nt|rv: 4@s is correct contract, 3n is lucky make|pg||
mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hQ|nt|rv: in practise, 3n is reasonable contract on bidding since this auction could be replicated in many tables|pg||
pc|h3|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|d2|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s8|pc|s6|pc|s2|pg||
pc|s3|pc|sJ|nt|petergill: Almost all experts add on one point for a good five card suit to open a 15-17 1NT on 5332 14 counts|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s7|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|c5|st||md|3SJ8HQJ5D9754CA982,SAT6H643DAK83C765,S742HKT98D62CKJ43,SKQ953HA72DQJTCQT|sv|n|nt|glen: one thing about the event schedule: I would suggest once it is down to the 32 teams on the monday, it goes 1 KO each day - 32-16-8-4, and then the last 2 teams play 1 1/2 days to ...|pg||
nt|glen: end when the pairs end|pg||
nt|jfaria:  but a chance for denmark in open|pg||
nt|vugraphpl8: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/or161t3-2.htm|pg||
nt|vugraphpl8: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/or16runda1.html|pg||
nt|vugraphpl8: http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg||
mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|brotherp: the challenge for the Danes is to get opps bid at the 5 level here|pg||
nt|vugraphpl8: http://www.bridgebase.com/mobile/index.php?r=348267|pg||
mb|3N|nt|pelu: back to the slam in bopard 23 : 10 out of 26 in 6@S - more than I expected|pg||
mb|p|nt|vugraphpl8: http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg||
nt|vugraphpl8: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/osw2t1-1.htm|pg||
nt|jfaria:  EW got nt first in our room|pg||
mb|p|nt|glen: sad you can't win both the pairs and teams, but nice to share gold medals|pg||
mb|p|nt|brotherp: and hopefully for them playing in @h 's |pg||
nt|bigtrain: let me do a better job of explaining meck's 480-50 rule...|pg||
pc|hQ|nt|bigtrain: it's better to be +480 than -50 -- in other words its better to miss a slam than bid one and go down|pg||
nt|vugraphpl8: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/ofrunda1.html|pg||
pc|h3|nt|glen: some how a partscore got in here, will call the TD|pg||
nt|jfaria:  sometime NS will find @d|pg||
nt|jfaria:  now?|pg||
pc|h8|nt|glen: losing teams can join the pairs event on the next day, so only two final teams missed pairs completely|pg||
pc|hA|pg||
nt|alok_daga: gud xle|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|glen: in the other room E led a trump|pg||
pc|d7|nt|glen: assuming the JT98 lead would not hurt, and could stop a @C ruff|pg||
nt|glen: here E switches to that horse at trick two|pg||
nt|jfaria:  S lost an entry, but still in the run|pg||
nt|galadriel: For anyone unfamiliar with VG on BBO, if you put your cursor over result from open room, you can see the bidding thee|pg||
nt|galadriel: there|pg||
pc|d3|nt|galadriel: Also, if you click on movie you can see all the results of the match - click on open room|pg||
nt|jfaria:  except if are wearing a Mac with no Bo software as i'm doing :)|pg||
pc|d2|pg||
nt|glen: if NS had enough communication after drawing trumps, could bring in @Ds for no losers|pg||
nt|galadriel: for running scores http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg||
nt|jfaria:  BBO software, i mean|pg||
nt|vugraphpl8: all bbo tables - http://www.bridgebase.com/mobile/|pg||
nt|jfaria:  no imaginable problems with this lead|pg||
pc|dT|nt|vugraphpl8: http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg||
pc|d4|nt|jfaria:  well Popov decided to go on on @s, not a good try|pg||
pc|d8|nt|alok_daga: Mansfield proved right yet again,5level belongs 2 opponent.5hrts=1dwn thus this 300 the best they cud do|pg||
nt|alok_daga: actually on cl Q lead 4hrts also dwn?|pg||
nt|thenapster: nope|pg||
nt|thenapster: i think the final teams going for final A|pg||
nt|thenapster: like the semi finals..|pg||
pc|d6|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|pelu: diff - even with open cards - to find more that 7 tricks for N|pg||
pc|d5|pc|dK|nt|athene: sometimes you delay playing the critical suit to find out which defender might have Jxxx|pg||
pc|s7|pg||
nt|thenapster: thats the way it was in the mixed i played last week|pg||
nt|brotherp: next hand|pg||
pc|dA|nt|athene: here he is always going to play king then ace of spades so can only pick up four with rodwell, so that doesn't really apply|pg||
nt|athene: but it doesn't hurt anyway|pg||
nt|pelu: 11 IMP to Bessis from board 2: here NS bid and made 5@D (here 4@h-1 by EW)|pg||
pc|c3|pc|h2|pc|d9|pg||
pc|sT|pc|s2|mc|10|pg||
qx|o6|st||md|4S765HK52DK952CT64,S93HQT83DQ4CQJ985,SKQ42HAJ9DAJCK732,SAJT8H764DT8763CA|sv|e|nt|Walddk2: Flat board, hey should have requested a redeal|pg||
mb|p|nt|Walddk2: Here is is not obvious to bid 3NT|pg||
nt|Walddk2: 18 opposite 6|pg||
mb|p|nt|rv: Roland, after 4 sixes, you generally defend next ball to get your breath back:)|pg||
mb|p|nt|petergill: nor is it obvious how you make 3NT|pg||
mb|1C!|nt|ahollan1: 1@C=multi-purpose  forcing 1 round   [Baltic CLub]|pg||
mb|p|nt|petergill: 1@C 4 way|pg||
mb|1D!|nt|ahollan1: 1@D=usually 0-6 Hcp|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1N=18-20 bal|pg||
mb|1N|nt|rv: if 18 is max of North's 1n range, then N-S may stop at low level|pg||
mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: no 18 is the MINIMUM|pg||
nt|rv: then doomed|pg||
nt|petergill: Eric Rodwell's technique to strip out and endplay East to make 3NT is worth a look on MOVIE|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|pc|d8|nt|rv: low @c out at trick 3 is great play by Rodwell|pg||
pc|d2|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Rodwell auction essentially the same but rod & meck's bids both differed by 1 point at the top and from piek-smirny|pg||
nt|rv: hardly obvious|pg||
nt|petergill: Rodwell took @DQ with ace, cashed @DJ to remove a defensive @D exit card, then played a low club which struck gold, setting up his 8th trick|pg||
nt|rv: my prediction is Mahaffey will be back in lead after this deal|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|d4|pg||
nt|rv: cashing @DJ is clearcut, which black suit card to play next is big question?|pg||
nt|petergill: Other table: @H exit at Trick 4, @SK at Trick 5.  East who expected to be endplayed in @S if he won @SK with the ace, tried to trick Rodwell by ducking @SK, but got endplayed later ...|pg||
nt|petergill: anyway|pg||
nt|rv: does he play @SK or low @c now?|pg||
nt|petergill: On a fiddly hand like this, the last thing an expert would do is to remove dummy's @HK entry|pg||
nt|petergill: @HK is needed, to retain some flexibility in the play|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s3|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s6|pc|s9|nt|rv: inspired play by Rodwell, I would have played by Piekarek here:)|pg||
pc|s2|pg||
pc|sT|pc|s7|nt|rv: like Piekarek|pg||
nt|ahollan1: both sides leading the same suit -- usually means at least one side is wrong|pg||
pc|c9|nt|petergill: If @SK is played, should E win it? Then: should he continue @d to set up a  long trick there? To minimise getting endplayed later?|pg||
pc|sK|pg||
nt|petergill: I will have to buy Eric Rodwell's book (opus?) on declarer play - I'm not sure if it's been published yet|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c4|nt|ahollan1: i was at a tourney in las vegas last week -- that supplier didn't have any copies yet :(|pg||
pc|c5|pg||
pc|s8|nt|petergill: Those who have read Rodwell's new book on card play are giving me rave reviews. A pity that this hand is too late to be included in the book.|pg||
pc|c6|nt|petergill: My reviewers are book suppliers and Europeans|pg||
pc|h3|pc|s4|pg||
nt|petergill: No endplay, no squeeze = -1|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h6|pc|h5|pc|h8|pg||
pc|h9|pc|h7|pc|hK|pc|hT|pg||
pc|dK|pc|c8|pc|c3|pc|d6|pg||
pc|cT|pc|cJ|pc|cK|pc|d7|pg||
nt|petergill: To make, N had to see thru the back of the cards - which we of course can do|pg||
pc|c7|pc|dT|pc|d9|pc|cQ|pg||
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qx|c6|st||md|4S765HK52DK952CT64,S93HQT83DQ4CQJ985,SKQ42HAJ9DAJCK732,SAJT8H764DT8763CA|sv|e|nt|rado: but hard to pass with W hand and non vuln vs red|pg||
nt|galadriel: INT making in both rooms - nice teamwork|pg||
nt|jfaria:  lol|pg||
nt|glen: that is quite the upset, I would gather that Zimmerman will support my full day KOs approach|pg||
nt|athene: more strong club practice for NS|pg||
nt|bigtrain: we seem to have skipped board 6|pg||
mb|p|nt|brotherp: big challenge here: difficult to reach 6@c it seems|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|jfaria:  the only , i guess|pg||
nt|brotherp: big club makes it easier i guess|pg||
mb|1C|an|.|nt|fokal: great job by smirnoff-piekarek to bid and make 5 @d|pg||
mb|p|mb|1D|an|.|nt|galadriel: A @C lead will scupper this contract|pg||
mb|p|nt|brotherp: negative @d ; but that seems overly pessimistic|pg||
nt|jfaria:  EW will steal some space i presume|pg||
nt|brotherp: i guess we just let them bid away|pg||
mb|1N|an|.|nt|glen: another 1NT|pg||
nt|jfaria:  theu did not |pg||
nt|jfaria:  did i see Lev bid 1@h?|pg||
nt|vugraphpl8: no missclick|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 1@C = 16+ |pg||
nt|bigtrain: 1@D = 0-7, artificial|pg||
mb|p|mb|2N|nt|glen: TD has corrected problem, now back to games and slams|pg||
nt|alok_daga: true.on club Q lead will have 2 play hrt 2 ACE,DMND FINNESEE 2 MAKE THE CONTRACT|pg||
nt|jfaria:  i?m told S already bid his @c suit|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 1NT = 17-18 balanced|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 2NT a natural raise (believe it or not) :)|pg||
mb|p|mb|3N|nt|pelu: if max 18 the very optimist 2NT?|pg||
mb|p|nt|glen: declarer will punch out the @S ace|pg||
nt|jfaria:  think they r very closee to bidding this one|pg||
nt|brotherp: 2@S might be clubs; and 2NT might be pre-accept with an honor....but then again not knowing their agreements that's just a wild guess|pg||
nt|jfaria:  2@s = @c and now S is describing his shape i'm told|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 2NT is natural invite|pg||
nt|pelu: ok that make sense|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: i believe Meckwell play 2nt response to 1nt opener as asking for a 5-card major, but maybe 1nt on this sequence denies a 5-card major|pg||
nt|bigtrain: excuse me///  noticed 4th seat|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 18-19|pg||
nt|bigtrain: no it doesn't|pg||
mb|p|nt|brotherp: seems impossible for south to bid 6 ..not holding any ace|pg||
pc|d6|nt|jfaria:  a mild slam try by S but that's it|pg||
nt|jfaria:  killing lead|pg||
pc|d2|nt|pelu: the slam in 24 (6@h) bid by 11 out of 26|pg||
nt|rado: declarer will need Opps to touch @D suit to make this otherwise down 1|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|pelu: high standard here in the A-swiss|pg||
pc|dA|pg||
nt|jfaria:  as Anne pointed out|pg||
nt|jfaria:  anyway S hand is limited... |pg||
nt|brotherp: goes to show; anyway very nice job by the Danes|pg||
nt|vugraphpl8: in open room board 18 - 5S|pg||
nt|vugraphpl8: sr 5 d|pg||
nt|vugraphpl8: sry|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|glen: and end with more than enough tricks|pg||
nt|jfaria:  but the slow approach from N tells him to bid 6 wd|pg||
pc|d8|nt|glen: Q. more information.  A. tournament site: http://www.poznan2011.pl/  bbo archives: http://www.bridgebase.com/vugraph_archives/vugraph_archives.php|pg||
nt|vugraphpl8: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/osw2t1-1.htm|pg||
nt|glen: (the last link just above is the running scores)|pg||
nt|glen: note the seniors just have walking scores|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d4|pg||
nt|brotherp: 5S seems made due to the club T|pg||
pc|c3|pc|cA|nt|pelu: now u owe me a drink, Glen :)|pg||
nt|galadriel: So, Tundal will get his ruff and must score a @D trick to st it|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c5|pg||
nt|galadriel: set|pg||
nt|bigtrain: meckwell's NT ranges are 14-16 1/2/3NV & 15-17 3V/4|pg||
pc|h7|nt|galadriel: 8 boards to play, and nothing in it - very exciting!|pg||
pc|h2|nt|pelu: or 2 :)|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg||
nt|bigtrain: thus since this is fourth seat 1@C-1@D//1NT = 18-19|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s8|pc|s5|pc|s3|pg||
nt|athene: declarer only has 8 obvious tricks but east can be thrown in to lead a diamond, i guess|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sT|pc|s6|pc|s9|pg||
nt|alok_daga: Reqd passive defence|pg||
nt|pelu: 2@H and @S = endplay on E|pg||
nt|pelu: still endplay for 9 tricks|pg||
nt|athene: when the @SK gets ducked you tend to assume east is more likely to have the ace|pg||
nt|fokal: with the fast duck, declarer might think as of @s is onside. |pg||
nt|jbgood: Piekarek - Smirnov still bidding  3 next door|pg||
nt|fokal: yes. But the position is not clear|pg||
nt|fokal: cashing could easily go wrong|pg||
nt|athene: east can see that if he wins the @SA he will probably get thrown in with a spade later|pg||
nt|pelu: Ns in 6@c B3|pg||
nt|jbgood: and 6@c reached in OR|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h5|nt|athene: so he ducks to try to just deceive declarer|pg||
pc|hT|pc|hJ|pg||
nt|fokal: wd rodwell|pg||
pc|cK|nt|fokal: should probably make it now|pg||
pc|d7|pc|cT|nt|glen: i understand there is a beer garden and grill just outside the playing site, meet me there just as soon as I get a flight|pg||
pc|cQ|pg||
pc|h9|pc|h4|pc|hK|pc|h3|pg||
pc|s7|pc|c8|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg||
nt|athene: well done|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|c6|nt|glen: N being careful, to just bring in the game|pg||
pc|c9|nt|pelu: N played for cross-ruff but his "small" @S-s was not the the best and that cost him 1 IMP|pg||
pc|s2|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d9|pc|cJ|nt|pelu: wd|pg||
pc|c2|pg||
pc|dK|pc|h8|pc|c7|pc|dT|pg||
nt|athene: the point about the @SK getting ducked is this|pg||
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qx|o7|st||md|1SJ9HQ652DAK85CAT8,SK432HAJ743D2CJ62,SA86HKT9DJ963CKQ4,SQT75H8DQT74C9753|sv|b|nt|Walddk2: Back to the two-digit swings|pg||
nt|Walddk2: or was that another 6, venky?|pg||
nt|rv: yes Roland|pg||
nt|petergill: The big difference was that East did not exit in @H, so playing for 3-3 @S was his best chance|pg||
nt|rv: super start for all specs|pg||
mb|1C|nt|ahollan1: a different multi-purpose 1@C opener this time|pg||
mb|2D!|nt|petergill: To play for spades 4-2 and @H 4 (incl Q) in W and 3 in E - well, he did not do that - you would need the hand records to play like that on the defence he got, I think|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2@D=michaels [@H & @S]|pg||
mb|d|nt|petergill: 2@D both majors, Michaels|pg||
nt|rv: not my choice of Michaels with Mahffey's hand at these colors|pg||
mb|3S|nt|Walddk2: Sehwag contemplating where the next six will come from, but I think he is going to defend this ball|pg||
nt|petergill: Jim Mahaffey loves to bid, likes to put pressure on the opponents|pg||
nt|rv: definitely prefer 5-5 and better quality of suits (intermediates)|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: that's become more and more common   strangely giving back some status to @C suit   where 2@C overcall of "could be short"  is Natural|pg||
nt|petergill: Trump leads skewer 3@SX|pg||
nt|rv: yes another double, pass and lead a @s|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Smirnov's pass confirms a weak NT|pg||
nt|petergill: Does Piekarek know that Mahaffey likes to bid, likes to take risks, even when vulnerable? If so, can he dbl and can S pass the dbl?|pg||
nt|rv: could turn out ugly even 1100|pg||
nt|petergill: I think N will simply bid 3NT|pg||
nt|ahollan1: the Italian Blue Team  made RV's suggestion a mantra    "double and lead trump"|pg||
mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|petergill: NS play in US Nationals a lot as a hired pro pair - but I don't know how much experience they have playing against Mahaffey.|pg||
nt|petergill: Normal to bid 3NT. |pg||
nt|rv: for academic interest, here slow double by Piekarek doesn't impose any ethical issues on Smirnov to pass or bid|pg||
nt|Walddk2: with 1435 Smirnov could have doubled, so he is a favourite to have a doubleton spade|pg||
pc|s5|nt|Walddk2: And pass therefore looks attractive|pg||
pc|s9|pc|sK|pc|s6|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s8|pc|sQ|pc|sJ|pg||
pc|sT|pc|h2|pc|s3|pc|sA|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d4|pc|d5|pc|d2|pg||
nt|petergill: I think Gary Cohler doesn't play all that much with Mahaffey (Mike Passell does), so East's 3@s bid was perhaps not with full knowledge of his partner's aggressive style|pg||
nt|rv: yes Germans missed an opportunity here and Jim Mahaffey will continue to bid like this, if they had doubled and he had gone for 1100 may not employ Michaels with 5-4 distribution ...|pg||
nt|rv: again|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d7|pc|d8|pc|h7|pg||
pc|dK|nt|rv: well played|pg||
nt|petergill: Problem is that South is unlikely to pass the Dbl, not expecting more than xx in spades in N hand for Dbl|pg||
pc|h4|pc|d6|pc|dT|pg||
pc|dA|pc|h3|pc|d9|pc|dQ|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|h9|pc|h8|pg||
pc|s4|nt|petergill: Mahaffey bids as he does because penalty doubles are rare nowadays, with so much t/o doubling, so being penalised is rare|pg||
pc|hT|pc|s7|pc|h5|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|c7|st||md|1SJ9HQ652DAK85CAT8,SK432HAJ743D2CJ62,SA86HKT9DJ963CKQ4,SQT75H8DQT74C9753|sv|b|nt|brotherp: another hand u want if trailing|pg||
nt|jfaria:  So the Danes bid game on board 18, not a good game but one that makes :)|pg||
nt|brotherp: opportunities yet again|pg||
nt|athene: when you lead the @SK you are pretty much sure to have KQ or so|pg||
nt|athene: so a defender over you with the ace can duck and he knows it probably won't cost|pg||
mb|1N|nt|galadriel: precision style|pg||
nt|jfaria:  precision 2@c|pg||
nt|thenapster: flat 3nt here|pg||
nt|glen: meckwell could very well open this S hand 1NT|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: but if the defender under you has the ace he might be a bit more worried|pg||
mb|3N|mb|p|nt|pelu: so 3 board and 32 IMP :)|pg||
nt|athene: if you had only KQx, say, then it might cost a trick|pg||
mb|p|nt|fokal: Thomas was looking for a @s weaker than the 2 but he only had the Jack|pg||
mb|p|nt|glen: it seems that NS use 1NT as a game force relay|pg||
pc|h4|nt|fokal: so he had to cash it :)|pg||
pc|h9|nt|glen: they will ask 84 questions, then reach 3NT|pg||
pc|h8|nt|psyck: an interesting treatment indeed|pg||
pc|h5|pg||
nt|galadriel: 3NT can't make on a @S lead|pg||
nt|jfaria:  @s lead.. only count 8 tricks|pg||
nt|galadriel: But after 1NT- 3NT in other room, East led a natural @C|pg||
nt|jfaria:  my mac is rather slow today|pg||
nt|jfaria:  big swing|pg||
nt|thenapster: so south will show 11-14 with 5332 and north will bid 3nt|pg||
nt|glen: 3NT is interesting, with 8 top tricks|pg||
nt|psyck: doesn't matter here, but we will wait & see if it makes a difference in the coming deals|pg||
nt|glen: specs voting for XX to play here|pg||
nt|psyck: he can simply play @h for 9th trick in 3N on this bidding rather than trying @d|pg||
nt|brotherp: reaching 6@H seems likely now|pg||
pc|d3|nt|galadriel: This auction gave West the chance to overcall @S|pg||
nt|galadriel: Ah!|pg||
nt|glen: now E is feeling the heat|pg||
nt|psyck: E wondering what the 2@h x was all about|pg||
pc|d4|nt|pelu: only 3 top-losers in 4@s but not 10 tricks|pg||
nt|glen: E hunting for a number here|pg||
nt|jfaria:  again the slow approach may help E to bid on|pg||
nt|brotherp: 6@H very interesting - after D!A lead u might play for the C!K to be offside - making for a very complicated hand|pg||
nt|brotherp: looks like a possible trump-squeeze ending|pg||
pc|dK|nt|brotherp: w ending with @s J9 , 1 trump and 2 clubs|pg||
nt|brotherp: e ending with 4 spades and bare c!A|pg||
nt|brotherp: and south being squeezed|pg||
nt|brotherp: lets see|pg||
nt|brotherp: btw sorry for the comments with the ! ---still not completely used to the interface|pg||
nt|jfaria:  that would be a line for  a jr on a jamed VG :)|pg||
nt|brotherp: east has a very big hand looking at the bidding|pg||
pc|d2|pg||
nt|galadriel: now it's ok|pg||
nt|glen: he passes in reasonable tempo to keep his pd's options open|pg||
nt|psyck: S opens @h, they gf, pd surely can't be wanting to penalize 2@h...but E is the one with @h void :)|pg||
pc|h6|nt|glen: gives up beer card early, never a good idea|pg||
nt|psyck: specs get their wish|pg||
nt|glen: in polish methods, to save beer card, the lead the @D 2|pg||
nt|glen: *they lead|pg||
pc|h7|nt|glen: if N can open that hand type in 3rd seat, S should not bid bidding 3@H on a 3-3-3-4|pg||
pc|hT|pc|c3|pg||
nt|galadriel: I can understand West - he had a second 5 card major - may have been a surprise for declarer, who obviously had a @S stop|pg||
pc|hK|nt|glen: its hard to see W taking 6@H tricks here|pg||
nt|jfaria:  Lev told his story|pg||
nt|brotherp: still lev might go for beauty and play the trump-squeeze way|pg||
pc|c5|pc|h2|nt|rado: good stop by EW, 5@C needs @D finesse|pg||
nt|alok_daga: prediction.this brd will cost IMPS|pg||
nt|rado: yes N might open 4@S 3rd pos:)|pg||
nt|alok_daga: Y,7 411 MAY TEMPT HIM!|pg||
nt|thenapster: big score here|pg||
nt|brotherp: certainly after @dK lead|pg||
pc|hA|pg||
nt|jfaria:  needed too much from p though ...|pg||
nt|vugraphpl8: http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg||
nt|galadriel: Agreed|pg||
nt|fokal: @s now to limit declarer to 9 tricks|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|brotherp: need a c-switch now|pg||
pc|s6|pc|c9|nt|glen: the @D 2 in some partnerships would indicate some values in @Ds, not the switch from 7642|pg||
pc|hQ|pg||
nt|galadriel: perhaps it ws|pg||
nt|galadriel: was|pg||
nt|jfaria:  easier 4 us anyway|pg||
nt|fokal: now S can do a safety play in @d (@d the the 8)|pg||
pc|cA|nt|glen: i have no idea why the @D switch was tempting|pg||
pc|c2|nt|galadriel: At least it keeps the match close|pg||
pc|c4|pc|c7|pg||
nt|glen: declarer can arrange a later trump endplay|pg||
pc|c8|nt|pelu: not the best defense - better @h 10 - 3x@h and a lot of @s-tricks for EW|pg||
pc|c6|pc|cQ|pc|s7|pg||
pc|cK|nt|jfaria:  @h breaks the sq a kib sugested|pg||
pc|s5|pc|cT|pc|cJ|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d7|pc|d8|pc|s2|pg||
nt|glen: vulnerable XX overtricks are bonus points|pg||
nt|psyck: they may end in 2@h other room too, from the other side :)|pg||
pc|s9|pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|sQ|pg||
nt|jbgood: just as you said|pg||
pc|d9|nt|pelu: still 500|pg||
nt|athene: east trying to look like a man with bare @SK left|pg||
pc|dT|pc|dA|pc|h3|pg||
nt|athene: tempting declarer to exit a spade trying to endplay him?|pg||
mc|10|nt|fokal: :)|pg||
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qx|o8|st||md|2SK8754HK72DA72C65,S932HJ63DKQ3CKT98,SAQ6HAQT98DT8CAQJ,SJTH54DJ9654C7432|sv|o|nt|rv: if E-W have 5-4 fit in @s, they can escape for 500 or even 200, but 3n is no longer certain for N-S, hence there is case for Piekarek to double and Smirnov to pass|pg||
nt|petergill: Me? I would prefer not to take the risk, especially when vulnerable|pg||
mb|p|nt|rv: good slam here|pg||
mb|1C|nt|ahollan1: starts with another multi-purpose 1@C|pg||
mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|petergill: The vital factor in my opinion was how wild are EW as bidders. This is the key issue - NS's prior knowledge of EW's bidding inclinations|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1@S=7+ HCP, could be as few as 3@S|pg||
mb|2D!|an|GF and 3+!S|nt|rv: sry on @d lead not great slam|pg||
nt|Walddk2: cohler playd with mahaffey at least for 10 years, on and off, Barnet Shenkin says|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2@D=relay  3@S and strong hand|pg||
mb|p|mb|3D|nt|ahollan1: 3@D=5@S, 10+ HCP|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 3@H to ask for shortness  is next artificial choice|pg||
nt|petergill: Thanks Roland - so Cohler also likes to put max pressure on in bidding, taking high risks|pg||
mb|3H!|an|cue-bid|nt|rv: Al, does Baltic @C played by N-S here have some similarity to Polish @c?|pg||
mb|p|nt|ahollan1: Rodwell's 2N opener was 19-20|pg||
mb|4D|mb|p|nt|petergill: I think N will head for slam, opposite that info|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 3N=no singleton/void|pg||
nt|ahollan1: oh   they've changed things |pg||
mb|4N|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: So one for six coming|pg||
nt|rv: I am told Baltic @C is quite similar to Polish @c|pg||
nt|petergill: If Rodwell, with the nice side suit as a source of tricks, cues 4@C (agreeing @S) over 3NT, then slam would be reached|pg||
mb|5H|nt|ahollan1: it derived from Polish  --  one of biggest differences is Baltic 1@C covers the Polish[Precision] 2@C hand with long @C|pg||
mb|p|mb|6S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|petergill: 6@S is a good contract. If trumps break 4-1, it might still make if @D is not led|pg||
nt|rv: this match is great by specs, big swings and close contest|pg||
nt|ahollan1: other tables visible via  http://www.bridgebase.com/client/vugraph.php  or  http://www.bridgebase.com/mobile/|pg||
nt|rv: great for specs|pg||
nt|petergill: After 8 boards we will have 65 imps in 85 minutes|pg||
nt|ahollan1: and nice mixture of science vs agressive obstruction|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Is that a|pg||
nt|Walddk2: reasonable run rate?|pg||
nt|petergill: 66 imps, I cannot count - the scores will be tied|pg||
pc|s3|pc|sA|nt|ahollan1: and wasn't the old metric  to win  keep opps to average of less than 2 imps per board|pg||
nt|rv: Roland, cricketing analogy this is faster than T20, more like Hong Kong 6s tourney:)|pg||
pc|sT|pc|s4|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|sJ|pc|s5|pc|s2|pg||
pc|s6|pc|c4|pc|sK|pc|s9|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|hQ|pc|h4|pg||
pc|h8|pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|h6|pg||
pc|h7|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pc|c2|pg||
pc|hT|mc|13|pg||
qx|c8|st||md|2SK8754HK72DA72C65,S932HJ63DKQ3CKT98,SAQ6HAQT98DT8CAQJ,SJTH54DJ9654C7432|sv|o|nt|brotherp: in fact looking at it a spade or a club or a heart - well spotted - breaks the squeeze (blush)|pg||
nt|brotherp: only d-d makes the squeeze work|pg||
nt|jfaria:  y|pg||
mb|p|nt|pelu: 800 if !§H10 - but only a diff of 2IMP|pg||
mb|2N|nt|psyck: may end with more doubles/redoubles than other bids other room|pg||
nt|thenapster: wow..3dx in open room|pg||
mb|p|nt|rado: easy 3NT for NS10-11 tricks|pg||
nt|thenapster: looks like 1400|pg||
nt|brotherp: ok; so the Danes in the open room play this crazy club system and end up in 6@H in the East hand...|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 2NT = 19-20|pg||
mb|3H|an|.|nt|alok_daga: 2dmnds=?in their methods|pg||
nt|brotherp: dreaming|pg||
mb|p|nt|psyck: A lot of action for a mere 4 imps|pg||
mb|3S|nt|glen: but lots of fun when scoring, +1240 in a loud voice, lose 4|pg||
nt|pelu: not so easy to bid 6@H in OR after Multi 2@D opening in W|pg||
mb|p|nt|fabsayc: a mystery :)|pg||
mb|3N|nt|jfaria:  "nt must have a meaning |pg||
nt|galadriel: EW did very well to reach 6@H next door|pg||
nt|jfaria:  2|pg||
nt|galadriel: let's see if they can reach slam here|pg||
mb|p|nt|glen: aggressive 3@D here|pg||
mb|4S|nt|rado: seems lie Wylkos 2@D 5M5+ unknown|pg||
nt|rado: *like|pg||
nt|rado: for Sure E tryes to attak in partner's long Major|pg||
nt|alok_daga: seems xxle=bid your next suit,thus 2dmnds=dmnds+another.cant think of anything else|pg||
nt|glen: 11 high card points, game unlikely|pg||
nt|brotherp: smooting lead for declarer|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|brotherp: kind of hands and leads u want being ahead|pg||
nt|jfaria:  hugly cards in Lev's hand, but good position of K @S still a hope|pg||
mb|p|nt|rado: maybe our kibs from Netherlands will help?|pg||
nt|psyck: OK, now I understand what Lotan meant when he said we can expect some aggresion by NS|pg||
nt|brotherp: not finessing risky with @d 6-2|pg||
nt|jfaria:  think E is in control|pg||
nt|brotherp: wonder if he can read @d 4-lead|pg||
nt|bigtrain: trick slams are the toughest to bid|pg||
nt|fokal: oups|pg||
pc|d4|nt|jfaria:  at this time i guess E already knows about W @h |pg||
nt|galadriel: strong @C auctions are very useful in these hands as they allow lots of room for exploration|pg||
nt|jfaria:  indeed|pg||
nt|athene: maybe if Rodwell had bid 4@C or 4@H over 3NT (good hand for spades) they might get there|pg||
nt|bigtrain: he's not good enough for 4@C but he could make the bid if he had a better hand|pg||
nt|jbgood: everything friendly here, so will make them all|pg||
nt|fokal: does 3 @s shows support ?|pg||
nt|athene: if he would super-accept 3@H with most 4-card support then i think he is really max for spades|pg||
nt|jbgood: or "may" perhaps more correct|pg||
nt|fokal: and 2NT is 20-21 ?|pg||
nt|athene: if you just count points he only nas 19 but really that is not your average 19 count|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 19-20|pg||
nt|fokal: ok|pg||
nt|jbgood: kibs suggest 4@c over 3 NT... N's hand very suitbale|pg||
nt|fokal: in that case he is maximum indeed|pg||
nt|pelu: only 4@H in OR so 13 more|pg||
pc|d2|pc|dQ|nt|jfaria:  with no oposition i guess they will reach 6|pg||
nt|galadriel: the @H10 is a big card :)|pg||
pc|d8|pg||
nt|jfaria:  better in @h, any imp may become precious|pg||
pc|cT|nt|galadriel: Indeed|pg||
nt|athene: ona  4-1 spade break you might still survive in slam even on a diamond lead - need @CK onside and the four trumps to have 3 hearts|pg||
nt|pelu: 45 IMP after 4 boards - that only prove, that also top-players make mistakes - and it has been some difficult board|pg||
nt|athene: then you can get both of south's diamonds away in time|pg||
nt|athene: the key to slam being so good is having two long suits to run, and a 4@C cue would not show that, but if he could bid 4@H showing a trick source and a big hand for spades...that ...|pg||
nt|athene: might do the job|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|glen: 3NT in the other room is one of those few 3NT contracts where there are 8 tricks, but almost no hope of 9|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c5|pg||
nt|athene: but then of course south would be worried about the @CAK :)|pg||
pc|sA|nt|galadriel: well done|pg||
nt|jfaria:  no swing in sight|pg||
nt|jfaria:  correction, can make 7|pg||
nt|galadriel: They had one more round of bidding here|pg||
nt|jfaria:  just guessing, but after the happy finding of K@h declarer will play for a split in the reds missing|pg||
nt|brotherp: luckily everything works|pg||
nt|fokal: agreed athene|pg||
pc|sT|pc|s4|nt|jfaria:  he must pray|pg||
pc|s2|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|sJ|pc|s5|pc|s3|pg||
nt|psyck: I would double 1@c too with decent holdings in other suits, but bidding again would occur to very few|pg||
mc|12|nt|jfaria:  putting @d Q with N|pg||
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qx|o9|st||md|3SJ2HA6DAKQ964CQ63,S765HKQ875DCKT974,SKQ3HJ43D8532CAJ5,SAT984HT92DJT7C82|sv|e|nt|Walddk2: Large margins in the other two finals. Women: Turkey + 27 vs the Netherlands, and seniors Grenthe (France) +32 against Pharon (England/Sweden)|pg||
nt|rv: Monaca A leading Texan Aces 28-26 after 10 boards in bronze medal play-off|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|nt|rv: any idea whether bronze medal play-off is 2 or 3 segments?|pg||
nt|rv: I am told it is only 2 segments|pg||
nt|petergill: On an unlikely @h lead from E, in 3NT North would have to decide whether to try @C hook or play for @H 4-4|pg||
mb|2C!|nt|ahollan1: i thought announcement during semi   was  2-16 board segments for playoff|pg||
nt|rv: Please access http://www.poznan2011.pl/ for running scores from all matches|pg||
mb|d|mb|r|nt|petergill: Jim Mahaffey is in there, bidding as usual, not too fussed about adverse vulnerability|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Correct Al|pg||
mb|p|mb|2H|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|rv: many sponsors think they are invulnerable, they are usually lucky in life and surprisingly carry that luck in bridge as well|pg||
nt|petergill: Rdbl = pls bid 2nd suit|pg||
nt|rv: Jim Mahaffey is surely one of them|pg||
pc|h3|nt|petergill: Play of this hand will be interesting. Big chance for an American gain|pg||
nt|Walddk2: This is most likely poor compensation for the missing 3NT|pg||
pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|h5|pg||
nt|rv: win second @h and duck a @s?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: @H lead seems automatic -- but might have cost a defensive trick here|pg||
nt|petergill: appears to have 3 clubs, 2 spades and one @h to lose = 200|pg||
nt|ahollan1: still how could Piek divine the @D tap|pg||
nt|rv: I presume South should not have passed double with poor defensive prospects with most of values in 6 bagger|pg||
pc|h6|pc|hQ|pc|h4|pc|h9|pg||
nt|Walddk2: The trouble for the defence is that 9 hcp's in diamonds will yield no tricks|pg||
nt|petergill: Cannot get to dummy for 2nd club hook, so surely will try either (1) set up @s or (2) club to king|pg||
nt|rv: if you open 1n on such hands, you need to jump to 3n if partner shows values and even penalty suggestion|pg||
pc|hK|pc|hJ|pc|hT|pc|d4|pg||
pc|s7|pc|sK|nt|rv: duck @s best line|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s2|pg||
nt|petergill: I think N and S's decisions to go for penalties were affected by their perceptions of Mahaffey's risky attacking style in the bidding|pg||
pc|d2|pc|dJ|pc|dA|pc|h8|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s3|nt|rv: South knows his hand:)|pg||
pc|s8|pc|sJ|pg||
nt|rv: North's double as penalty is perfectly understandable, South has a surprise with off-centre 1n opening |pg||
nt|petergill: Venky - but at this vulnerabilty, Smirnov thought 500 or 800 might be there, especially if North has 4 hearts, as he often will|pg||
pc|c3|pc|cT|pc|cJ|pc|c2|pg||
nt|petergill: Better play @D now|pg||
nt|petergill: or else minus 670|pg||
nt|ahollan1: Peter  do you think length of match affects decision to defend vs play 3N?|pg||
pc|d3|pc|dT|pc|dK|pc|h7|pg||
pc|s5|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|d6|pg||
pc|sT|pc|c6|pc|c4|pc|c5|pg||
pc|s9|pc|cQ|pc|c7|pc|d5|pg||
mc|7|pg||
qx|c9|st||md|3SJ2HA6DAKQ964CQ63,S765HKQ875DCKT974,SKQ3HJ43D8532CAJ5,SAT984HT92DJT7C82|sv|e|nt|glen: if W had SK, instead of @SQ, and @Hs still blocked, 9 tricks|pg||
nt|jfaria:  another possible big swing|pg||
nt|fokal: actually, it might be better to bid that directly on 3 @h |pg||
nt|athene: well, 2NT opener is well-known to be a bit of a slam killer|pg||
mb|1D|mb|p|mb|2D|an|.|nt|galadriel: Wow - EW have a huge board in open room|pg||
nt|glen: i surprised that roland has not taught this NS Flannery|pg||
mb|p|mb|2H|an|.|nt|glen: this was a tough choice for E in the other room - if NS are playing a modern style, bidding without high card points, then EW may have game|pg||
nt|alok_daga: guess the color of the brd prevented east from entering the auction|pg||
nt|vugraphpl8: all bbo tables- http://www.bridgebase.com/mobile/|pg||
nt|psyck: I'm sure he has, & hence this opening :)|pg||
mb|p|mb|2S|nt|glen: i can safely say that since walddk95 is not watching this table|pg||
nt|glen: 2NT will be a raise here, likely game invite values|pg||
nt|glen: 3@H will show some shape, but not much in extra values|pg||
nt|psyck: Watching or not, the F******* word is still banned in the commentators enchiridion.|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 2@H = 11-13 BAL|pg||
mb|p|nt|glen: if S had opened F******** N would know of double fit|pg||
nt|brotherp: looking at it u really dont wanna go any higher|pg||
mb|2N|nt|pelu: 2@H overcall (alomst) OK - but why did East bid on in CR? - and here??|pg||
nt|jfaria:  NS misplayed and 9@c provided a @d discard in open|pg||
nt|brotherp: if declarer is a (very good) guess he might even make|pg||
mb|p|nt|bigtrain: 2@S = transfer to 2NT|pg||
mb|3N|nt|rado: nice stop by NS|pg||
nt|jfaria:  maybe another double game swing?|pg||
mb|p|nt|psyck: maybe N could try 2@s on 2@d, has to have @h fit for that bid with passed hand|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|galadriel: if he guesses the @H|pg||
pc|sT|nt|jfaria:  W x but E has lenght in @s ...|pg||
nt|galadriel: Unlikely to get it right|pg||
nt|jbgood: difficult to find the @h lead|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 2@D was a one round force|pg||
nt|pelu: ok 8 toptricks - better played by S (@hJ in dummy) - if u need u can finess in @c|pg||
nt|jbgood: not that it would have mattered much|pg||
nt|athene: he can make 12 now can't he? concede the @SA then squeeze west in hearts and clubs|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s5|nt|pelu: just to penalyse partner - u cant exoect that u can make game - so pass to 2@H - only game on Thankgivingsday and Christmas :)|pg||
nt|bigtrain: natural usually 5+@D|pg||
pc|s3|pg||
nt|alok_daga: prediction proved wrong,4clubs=+6 IMPS|pg||
nt|jfaria:  who has a short in @h?|pg||
nt|athene: if east ducks the @SA to avoid rectifying the count you can strip squeeze west the same|pg||
pc|c3|nt|alok_daga: XXLEDUMMY West gets thrown in,forced 2 play dmnds.whether declarer takes that line or not is different|pg||
nt|rado: K@C and Q@D now|pg||
nt|rado: with 52 cards:) |pg||
pc|c4|nt|rado: but declarer probably will play A@D to keep entries to Dummy|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|pelu: agre, Glen?|pg||
nt|jfaria:  if any|pg||
pc|c2|pg||
pc|sK|pc|sA|nt|brotherp: if he's a poor guess it's 1 off - 2 spades, 2 clubs, 1 heart and 1 diamond|pg||
nt|jfaria:  strong Meckwell @c didnt help finding @c slam|pg||
nt|jfaria:  Rodwell opened a systematic 2nt, no room left|pg||
nt|brotherp: match tightening up then|pg||
nt|vugraphpl8: 12 for denmark|pg||
nt|vugraphpl8: in 20. board|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s6|pg||
nt|jfaria:  got it right|pg||
nt|galadriel: A likely 12 imps to Vito|pg||
nt|fokal: not anymore|pg||
nt|fokal: @c now :)|pg||
nt|bigtrain: from south's prespective he wanted to protect N's @S holding|pg||
mc|10|nt|pelu: @H also break squeze|pg||
nt|fokal: operator ?|pg||
nt|pelu: first flat board : B5 :)|pg||
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qx|o10|st||md|4SQJTHT86543D2CT95,SAK4HKJ2DAT6CJ643,S832HQ7DQJ7CAKQ87,S9765HA9DK98543C2|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|nt|rv: Bessis have stretched in CR, chance for Mahaffey to extend lead here|pg||
nt|Walddk2: The defence against 3NT next door was easy. Rodwell set up his 5th club and had to get in with a diamond|pg||
nt|rv: @d partial seems reasonable on combined hands|pg||
mb|1N|nt|petergill: 3NT is a perfectly sound vulnerable game - will make more than the 36% or so of the time that makes a vul 3Nt worth bidding at imps|pg||
mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|nt|petergill: Just needs friendly @D on most layouts. |pg||
mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|nt|petergill: Might sometimes make 3NT when @d are unfriendly|pg||
mb|p|nt|rv: and 4-4 @cs or friendly layout|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Piekarek has the same plan I am sure|pg||
nt|petergill: I think about 19 of the best 20 pairs in the world would reach 3NT on the EW cards|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c2|pc|cT|nt|Walddk2: Care to name the 20th? :)|pg||
pc|c3|pg||
nt|petergill: NS play queen lead for reverse count|pg||
pc|c7|pc|s5|pc|c9|nt|ahollan1: any disciple of Al Roth?|pg||
nt|petergill: and king lead for low encourage|pg||
pc|cJ|pg||
nt|rv: double dummy makes if north plays 4 round of @cs|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d7|nt|Walddk2: Mahaffey is quite happy, but only for a brief moment|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d2|pg||
pc|d6|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|h3|pg||
nt|rv: good def|pg||
nt|petergill: so, as S plays top of touching honours, at Trick 1  N knew that S had 10xx in clubs and declarer Jxxx|pg||
pc|d4|pc|h4|pc|dT|pc|dJ|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|c10|st||md|4SQJTHT86543D2CT95,SAK4HKJ2DAT6CJ643,S832HQ7DQJ7CAKQ87,S9765HA9DK98543C2|sv|b|nt|brotherp: strange claim|pg||
nt|jbgood: 44 imps turned over after 4 boards:) (and 5)|pg||
mb|p|nt|fokal: 10 tricks doesn't seem possible|pg||
mb|p|mb|1N|nt|vugraphpl8: maybe|pg||
mb|p|nt|vugraphpl8: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/or32runda1.html|pg||
mb|2C|nt|fokal: don't|pg||
mb|p|nt|pelu: if decl play @D10 out of hand only down 1|pg||
nt|pelu: N is endplayed|pg||
nt|pelu: fore sure 11 tricks|pg||
mb|2D|nt|glen: operators trained to entry two bids at a time, here W passed quickly, N thought|pg||
nt|galadriel: These high level decisions are so difficult - and can be soo costly|pg||
nt|vugraphpl8: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/or321t7-2.htm|pg||
nt|jfaria:  we all know that :(|pg||
mb|p|mb|3N|nt|glen: the @H lead sets up 4@S, 2@H and 1@D|pg||
nt|psyck: those who open 1@c with 44 in minors have an outside chance to get to 2@c here|pg||
nt|glen: before declarer can set up his 7 tricks|pg||
nt|fokal: ok corrected|pg||
nt|vugraphpl8: bad claim|pg||
mb|p|nt|jfaria:  more imps coming 4 NS|pg||
mb|p|nt|galadriel: Even the experts get them wrong sometimes, which is a great comfort to allof us :)|pg||
nt|vugraphpl8: sry|pg||
mb|p|nt|pelu: ok last board - tx to my fellow commentators - an to a group of very active kibs :), and spec tx to the polish IT-operators who are doing an outstanding job - and finaly to out ...|pg||
nt|pelu: ecelent operator at the table|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|glen: the problem for N is that he did not show a great 14 high card point hand with 2NT|pg||
nt|pelu: np - u are doing fine|pg||
pc|c2|nt|brotherp: difficult to beat|pg||
nt|brotherp: how about the !J lead (ducked) :>|pg||
nt|brotherp: @S-J that is|pg||
pc|cT|nt|brotherp: d! suit nicely divided for declarer|pg||
nt|brotherp: @d-suit|pg||
pc|c3|pg||
nt|fokal: yes, thx|pg||
nt|fokal: N has to play @cs till he still have the @d stopper|pg||
nt|athene: it might look obvious to us to set up the clubs with a diamond entry|pg||
nt|bigtrain: but he has to play a small @C now|pg||
nt|athene: but rodwell may be worried that declarer has @CJ9xxx|pg||
nt|fokal: and I'd say that for his point of view, it's quite clear|pg||
nt|bigtrain: to keep an entry|pg||
nt|fokal: I'm guessing he is hesitating betwenn K of @c and small @c|pg||
nt|bigtrain: that is if declarer can devine the @HQ is doubleton|pg||
nt|fokal: true athene|pg||
nt|fokal: though I don't know meckwell way of signaling|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 10 is attitude here|pg||
nt|bigtrain: rev attitude that is|pg||
nt|fokal: so it can be from 10x|pg||
nt|bigtrain: y|pg||
nt|fokal: it usually is from 10x actually|pg||
nt|pelu: then better lead @CK (for count)|pg||
nt|fokal: hum|pg||
nt|athene: @C10 is consistent with @C10x so not at all obvious to rodwell that he can set up the clubs|pg||
nt|fokal: are you sure the 10 doesn't show the 9 on the Q lead ?|pg||
pc|cA|nt|fokal: (which can be from QJ ?)|pg||
pc|s5|nt|brotherp: so 8 tricks will be there now..lets see if pepsi can work some magic|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c4|pg||
nt|glen: those who open 1@C and are not playing 2+ etc,|pg||
nt|psyck: right, which is why i said outside chance only|pg||
nt|glen: now it looks like NS will cash out, since playing @Cs would not be right|pg||
nt|glen: however sometimes the defense thinks 1NT always has 2-3@S for 1NT|pg||
nt|pelu: I am told that by NS Q ask for count, and K for suit preference|pg||
pc|cK|pc|s6|pc|c9|pc|c6|pg||
nt|vugraphpl8: http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg||
pc|c8|pc|d3|nt|vugraphpl8: bye|pg||
nt|pelu: but after a free bid by Jansma he could try once more|pg||
nt|glen: Balicki, with N hand for Monaco/Poland, overcalled 1@H and later bid @Ds|pg||
nt|fokal: ok now declarer can make it if he set us @s and guess the q of @h|pg||
pc|h4|pc|cJ|pg||
nt|galadriel: Well I have alot of sympathy with David Bakshi ( South in other room) for upgrading this hand|pg||
nt|glen: running scores: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/or16runda1.html|pg||
nt|fokal: ok to late for setting up the @s :)|pg||
pc|dA|nt|bigtrain: absolutely because the Q shows either QJx (less than 4) or KQx(x) or AQJ(x) or AKQx(x)|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d4|pc|d2|pg||
nt|brotherp: we can all see that it's easy now: just play north for the @s-king|pg||
nt|brotherp: but pepsi might be inclined to place @S-king in the south-hand|pg||
nt|jfaria:  and play 4 athrow in?|pg||
nt|brotherp: and then there are some funny throw-in squeeze kind of positions|pg||
nt|brotherp: yup|pg||
nt|jfaria:  lets see|pg||
pc|dT|pc|dJ|nt|brotherp: and he even might look at the @s 2 as a funny discard|pg||
nt|brotherp: i see; that's more logical (@h 8 discard)|pg||
nt|brotherp: askgaard guessing for @c J9 or @S q now|pg||
nt|dburn: weird sort of position, this|pg||
nt|jfaria:  if N plays a @s Pepesi must put the king|pg||
nt|dburn: even @cJ9 won't help him|pg||
nt|brotherp: and he can see @H 8 discard was more or less forced and not lavinthalish|pg||
nt|brotherp: depends on where pepsi places the @S K|pg||
pc|dK|nt|brotherp: but would north not play a spade if he didnt hold the king....|pg||
pc|h3|pg||
nt|bigtrain: with QJxx he would lead the J|pg||
nt|fokal: oh ok|pg||
nt|bigtrain: not true... Q gets attitude|pg||
mc|8|nt|pelu: I would need notes at the table :)|pg||
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qx|o11|st||md|1SA96HJT5DK74CKJ86,SJT852HAQ42DA53C3,S43HK873D986CAQ94,SKQ7H96DQJT2CT752|sv|o|mb|1C|nt|Walddk2: 1@C is often 12-14 balanced|pg||
nt|ahollan1: in that respect VERY similar to Polish Club|pg||
nt|petergill: that East hand with an ace and Kxxxxx was worth close to 10 points - 4 for ace, 3 for king, one for 5th card in long suit and 2 more for 6th card in long suit - hence the EW expert ...|pg||
nt|petergill: bidding at both tables|pg||
mb|2D|nt|ahollan1: Mahaffey is sure consistent|pg||
mb|p|mb|2S|nt|Walddk2: More majors (2@D)|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: And Piekarek is shut out|pg||
mb|p|pc|s6|nt|Walddk2: 1@C can be 2 so he does not have a safe 3@C|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|s7|pg||
pc|h9|pc|h5|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|s5|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Board 6 adjusted from 3 to 2NT|pg||
pc|s9|pc|sJ|pc|c4|pc|sK|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d6|pg||
pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c6|pg||
nt|petergill: Bd 10: I didn't spot this, but both Wests knew clubs were 5-3, so it costs only overtricks and seems to me 100% correct to play back a club at Trick 3, with possible ...|pg||
nt|petergill: squeeze/pseudo-squeeze chance for 9th trick (thanks to Vedran Zoric for the concept)|pg||
pc|h8|pc|h6|pc|hT|pc|h2|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|c5|pg||
pc|sT|pc|c9|pc|c7|pc|c8|pg||
pc|s8|pc|cQ|pc|cT|pc|d4|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d8|pc|dJ|pc|d7|pg||
pc|dT|pc|cJ|pc|d5|pc|d9|pg||
pc|d2|pc|cK|pc|h4|pc|h7|pg||
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qx|c11|st||md|1SA96HJT5DK74CKJ86,SJT852HAQ42DA53C3,S43HK873D986CAQ94,SKQ7H96DQJT2CT752|sv|o|nt|galadriel: But it got his side to an unmakable game|pg||
nt|jfaria:  my sympathy goes with yours Anne|pg||
nt|psyck: Rodwell opens N's 10 pointer in deal 9 & so they had no problem getting to 4@h|pg||
nt|vugraphpl8: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/or161t3-1.htm|pg||
nt|glen: not sure what happened there, but it is recorded as making|pg||
nt|vugraphpl8: Lev forgot system|pg||
nt|vugraphpl8: td|pg||
nt|vugraphpl8: 2H should be transfer on spades and this is a problem|pg||
mb|1D|nt|jfaria:  there seems to be a problem with Lev's system. Operator can tell exactly what it is|pg||
mb|1S|nt|fabsayc: we hit those light openings so hard they were intimidated to open :)|pg||
nt|psyck: Michal, pls correct to 1NE-1|pg||
nt|glen: its tough when the almost seniors bid more than the young ones|pg||
mb|d|mb|2S|nt|glen: now there's a young 1@S opening|pg||
nt|vugraphpl8: sry|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|2N|an|.|nt|vugraphpl8: I told that Lev forgot that 2H was transfer on spades|pg||
mb|p|nt|psyck: np, u r doing fine|pg||
mb|3C|nt|bigtrain: 2NT is takeout|pg||
mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|rado: another quiet board now|pg||
nt|jfaria:  so it looks that the result of board 24 is in dispute|pg||
nt|vugraphpl8: yes |pg||
pc|s4|nt|fabsayc: the ninth trick on the lead|pg||
nt|psyck: well, the 3rd seat opening may have kept them out of slam, not sure if they'd get higher uncontested though|pg||
pc|s7|nt|jfaria:  nothing special on this one, G/T runnig out of hope|pg||
nt|glen: anybody for 6@H?|pg||
nt|psyck: W may have needed to open for EW to bid slam|pg||
nt|glen: some specs vote for 7@H on the layout|pg||
nt|jbgood: 2 @s would have been easy - 3 a bit more challenging, but ...|pg||
pc|s9|nt|jfaria:  that will add some drama to final boards|pg||
pc|sT|pg||
nt|jbgood: i think the spade lead ducked was a defensive winner|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h8|nt|alok_daga: how gud can this nt be?QJ tight in 1 suit,1 suit barren.agreed 1cl 1sp response presents problems but 1nt?|pg||
nt|athene: in theory declarer has four spades, four diamonds and the @HA but he can never untangle all four diamonds|pg||
pc|h9|pc|hJ|pg||
nt|bigtrain: hard to see how he will make this|pg||
nt|athene: surely that was ace and another trump|pg||
pc|sA|nt|athene: small trump gives declarer TWO tricks - he can play three rounds of diamonds then ruff a heart and play the thirteenth diamond :)|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s3|nt|rado: will will make 10 since W cannot lead 2nd @H now|pg||
nt|alok_daga: the steamroller at work,22 IMPS lead|pg||
nt|alok_daga: 21|pg||
nt|brotherp: got to go for a moment; sorry all, its up to you Joao\|pg||
nt|brotherp: thanks|pg||
nt|jfaria:  thx |pg||
pc|sQ|pg||
pc|s6|nt|athene: for an overtrick|pg||
pc|s5|nt|jbgood: that looks like it|pg||
pc|d6|pc|sK|pg||
nt|athene: ace and a trump = one down|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|d8|pg||
nt|pelu: perfect lead from Rodwell|pg||
pc|h6|pc|hT|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg||
mc|8|nt|jfaria:  now E can split, S lacks an netry to colect 5@s|pg||
pg||
qx|o12|st||md|2SK76HKJ972DQ84C86,SHQT53DAJ752CAT95,SQ543H864DKT93CJ7,SAJT982HAD6CKQ432|sv|n|nt|Walddk2: This is a fine result for Bessis. 7@C is not easy to reach and it is no gimme in the play|pg||
nt|petergill: Boldly and well bid by Michel and Thomas Bessis at the other table|pg||
nt|rv: from what I have heard and read, technology aspects of this tourney have surpassed those anywhere else|pg||
mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|petergill: Bd 12: In the Playoff for 3rd, the Texan Aces from India stopped in 3@C|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Sound spot|pg||
nt|petergill: which lost to 7@C at the other table|pg||
mb|2C|mb|p|nt|rv: not easy to bid Grand slam (GS)|pg||
mb|2H!|nt|ahollan1: +190   that's one score you don't often feed partners |pg||
nt|petergill: I wonder if the Americans will duplicate the auction from the other table?|pg||
mb|d|nt|Walddk2: If 3@H shows 4, yes|pg||
nt|rv: I very much doubt and not even sure if it is odds on for a grand slam|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Some play it as just a stall with no clear direction|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|3C|nt|Walddk2: xxx in hearts for example|pg||
nt|petergill: Venky has a point. A 5-2 spade break makes 7@C hard to play.|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Which is more frequent than having four cards|pg||
nt|rv: on a normal @c lead, possibly need @cs 2-2 and @s breaking|pg||
mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|nt|petergill: 2@H 4th suit forcing, to make 3@C forcing|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Maybe 4@C even better|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Strong slam interest|pg||
mb|3H|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: I think Kelsey would have called this 'daisy-picking'|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Get to the point and jump to 4@C|pg||
nt|petergill: South's Dbl, West not bidding NT and West not Rdbling 2@HX might encourage East to think West does not have many wasted points in @H|pg||
mb|4C|mb|p|nt|petergill: East now expects a mild @H holding wasted opposite him|pg||
nt|petergill: If 3@d was a cue, West is running out of bids he can make - other than 5@C which bypases RKCB|pg||
mb|5C|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: With that East hand 4@C is better because he does not need much info before he can blackwood|pg||
nt|rv: will West bid 4@s here or sign-off in 5@c?|pg||
nt|petergill: so they will stop in 6@C|pg||
nt|ahollan1: yes -- Cohler may actually envision better fitting hand than T Bessis expected after dad's 3@H rebid|pg||
nt|rv: Cohler will do well to even bid 6@c|pg||
mb|6C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|rv: bridge is cruel game, E-W have bid better than their counterparts in CR and still lose 11 IMPs:)|pg||
pc|h6|nt|Walddk2: As I said before, 7@C is not cold by any means, but it is relatively easy to make on this layout, provided that declarer does not play for @SKQ with South|pg||
nt|Walddk2: trying to ruff them out|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|h3|pg||
nt|petergill: Roland was right - a direct 4@C over 2@HX, as at the other table, would have worked wonders - not that 7@C is that great a grand|pg||
nt|Walddk2: This is moot in 6|pg||
nt|fokal: 7 @c is a lot easier to play than 6 @c|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Maybe not, Oliv. There is that @SKQ trap|pg||
nt|ahollan1: i read stories about a top player/character from the 30s who would berate his teammates when they bid a Grand  EVEN IF IT MADE|pg||
nt|ahollan1: name that that person  for 10 points|pg||
nt|rv: Al, I am not his descendent:)|pg||
nt|Walddk2: I notice that the lead in the other room was @CJ, which rates to be a singleton|pg||
nt|Walddk2: as one would often lead small from Jx|pg||
nt|ahollan1: best guesses only going back to the 40s       it was P. Hal Sims|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Thomas must just have played for both black suits to break|pg||
pc|s2|nt|Walddk2: I did not check but I am sure he took the simple line|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Sorry, Michel did|pg||
pc|s6|nt|pelu: yes he played for @S-ruff and @Cs 2-2|pg||
nt|rv: Monaco A leading Texan Aces 46-31 mid-way thru match of 28 brds (only 2 segments for bronze medal play-off)|pg||
pc|c5|pc|s3|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h4|pc|c2|pc|h2|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Is this slow or is it slower than slow?|pg||
pc|s8|pc|s7|pc|c9|pc|s4|pg||
nt|Walddk2: excruciatingly slow perhaps|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d6|pc|d4|pg||
nt|fokal: in close room W could have 4441, so that's why E tried for the grand. I think since w didn't answer his void on the BW, E was pretty sure of the 4441|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d9|pc|c3|pc|d8|pg||
pc|s9|pc|sK|pc|cT|pc|s5|pg||
nt|rv: Roland's antennae is up, maybe Josef Piekarek is candidate for his world top 10 list|pg||
nt|pelu: why not ruff with @CA still making if @Cs 3-1|pg||
nt|Walddk2: I think my turtle could play the 16 boards faster than this|pg||
nt|rv: sry bronze medal play-off is 16x2|pg||
nt|pfbr: :)|pg||
nt|rv: ruff with @CA better?|pg||
nt|Walddk2: He has his good friend, Willy the Snail, to help him out if it's too slow|pg||
nt|pelu: not the best play - ig cross-ruff the @SA before the last ruff|pg||
nt|pfbr: morning roland see you're laid back this morning :)|pg||
nt|Walddk2: glad you did not say paid back|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Hi Anita @H|pg||
nt|pfbr: :))) @h|pg||
nt|pelu: too late to think - sh have done that 1 trick before :)|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|c4|pc|c6|pg||
pc|d5|pc|dT|pc|cQ|pc|dQ|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c8|pc|d7|pc|cJ|pg||
mc|13|pg||
qx|c12|st||md|2SK76HKJ972DQ84C86,SHQT53DAJ752CAT95,SQ543H864DKT93CJ7,SAJT982HAD6CKQ432|sv|n|nt|athene: the bidding did strongly suggest a trump lead|pg||
mb|1D|nt|rado: 5@S makable for EW now|pg||
mb|p|nt|glen: interesting 2NT|pg||
mb|1S|nt|glen: a bid underpowered by high card points, but the playing value is certainly 2NT|pg||
nt|psyck: good 5 card @d sequence & a couple more T's...|pg||
mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|nt|rado: E will try for Slam for sure|pg||
nt|glen: 3NT=abandon all hope of a major suit fit|pg||
nt|psyck: Only 18.85 KnR points though.|pg||
nt|psyck: they better stay out of grand|pg||
mb|2H|an|.|nt|rado: maybe 2nd transfer to show slam interest|pg||
nt|thenapster: they will bid only 6|pg||
nt|psyck: for all i know grand may make with @cJ finesse & a major suit squeeze on N though :)|pg||
mb|p|mb|3H|nt|galadriel: EW doing their best to keep NS out of game|pg||
mb|p|nt|galadriel: And succeeding!|pg||
nt|galadriel: 10 back|pg||
nt|jfaria:  with 2 places to play, and the minor being @d N could double instead|pg||
mb|4C|mb|p|nt|rado: W has good support so keeps the level low|pg||
nt|alok_daga: dont think they will have2 reach 5 East has expressed all he had 2 say|pg||
nt|thenapster: no sqeeze...south can keep 1098@S|pg||
mb|4D|nt|rado: oooops|pg||
mb|p|mb|4N|nt|glen: nice squence by E|pg||
mb|p|nt|fabsayc: i prefer a self splinter of 4@C on second turn|pg||
nt|glen: 4@C gerber, and then 5NT, 6NT as the grand try|pg||
mb|5H|nt|rado: yes always good not to risk 5 lvl, nice bidding from EW here|pg||
nt|fabsayc: perhaps east showed his singleton|pg||
nt|alok_daga: assume 3hrts,3nt meant some sort of shortage|pg||
nt|jfaria:  tuff, only 2 boards left |pg||
nt|galadriel: For running scores http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg||
mb|p|mb|7C|nt|glen: N nicely goes with a safe lead|pg||
nt|psyck: yes, major suit lead would have saved time for us though|pg||
nt|psyck: They stayed out of slam last deal other room too|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|psyck: so it still remains a relatively low scoring affair with no double digit swings|pg||
nt|jfaria:  3nt in open this may get too close|pg||
mb|p|nt|glen: rodwell also opening 1@S to keep it young|pg||
nt|athene: 7@C is a big bid with no trick source|pg||
nt|jbgood: a tall order|pg||
nt|bigtrain: needs trumps 2-2 if trump lead|pg||
nt|athene: sometimes even a nine-card trump fit isn't enough, if that is all you have|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|jbgood: and everything falls into place|pg||
nt|athene: lots of specs are saying he does have some spades|pg||
nt|athene: yes, but he knows his partner has a spade void|pg||
nt|fokal: he can win by ruffing 3 @s|pg||
nt|athene: so it will take a fair bit of work to get the spades set up|pg||
nt|bigtrain: but needs trump do to the fact he has only 1 entry|pg||
nt|athene: 4-3 spades and 2-2 trumps means everything is happy of course|pg||
nt|athene: but it's not exactly a laydown grand|pg||
nt|fokal: but it seems he need @cs 2-2|pg||
nt|pelu: some strange results on result page: Board 2 (open) 5@D - 1 on BBO scored as +600, Board 6 bridgemate: only 2Nt +1 not 3Nt making (here i this room)|pg||
nt|bigtrain: could play for both @S onside if he doesn't think trump splits|pg||
nt|athene: there are various options in spades like @SHx with north (ruff one then ruffing finesse)|pg||
nt|athene: or just the double ruffing finesse against south, yes|pg||
nt|bigtrain: i'm offerring an alternative line|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Yesterday, Zia ventured 'Zia's Rule': "Don't lead a trump against a grand slam", he said|pg||
nt|bigtrain: it diesn't work buthe may choose it since the other option is trump 22 and @S 43|pg||
nt|vugraphpl8: http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg||
nt|athene: :) well the rule "ALWAYS lead a trump against a grand slam" is definitely a bad one|pg||
nt|bigtrain: or KQx in @S|pg||
nt|athene: but maybe zia has gone too far the other way|pg||
nt|pelu: the rule is: dont lead trump if pd has QJ :)|pg||
nt|jbgood: we can all see everything is nice, but the lead surely looks like a singleton...|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c6|pc|cA|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h4|pc|hA|nt|vugraphpl8: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/or321t7-2.htm|pg||
nt|galadriel: I think the Bulgarians are a young team- some have played for the national open team and some for National Juniors|pg||
nt|galadriel: Maybe a spec can tell me if I'm wrong|pg||
pc|h2|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|d2|nt|galadriel: Ah, ok this is a Junior pair|pg||
pc|s3|pg||
nt|psyck: he doesn't want to run @d's before testing @s as no convenient discards|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s7|nt|pelu: 2 x yesterday in slams decl missing QJxx, trumps were 2-2 and both times fines for down 1|pg||
pc|c5|pc|s4|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h6|pc|c3|pc|h7|pg||
pc|s8|pc|sK|pc|c9|pc|s5|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d6|pc|d4|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d9|pc|c4|pc|d8|pg||
pc|s9|pc|c8|pc|cT|pc|sQ|pg||
mc|13|nt|pelu: I am not sure we can trust the score, if 5@d in B2 was down 1 (bridgemate) then 37 - 11 for US|pg||
pg||
qx|o13|st||md|3SAK5HAQJ9743D43C3,SQJ96HTDKQCKT9874,S73HK8DT98765C652,ST842H652DAJ2CAQJ|sv|b|nt|Walddk2: With some luck they will finish this set before the next is scheduled to start, in 70 minutes|pg||
nt|rv: dealing s/w is in form, plenty of distributional hands|pg||
nt|fokal: maybe the correct line in 6 @c is ruffing finesse in @s, it's 75% . |pg||
mb|p|nt|pelu: still only 2 flat boards in the final :)|pg||
mb|1C|nt|Walddk2: This does not look flat either|pg||
nt|rv: 4@s is best spot for E-W?|pg||
mb|4H|nt|ahollan1: for all of the action -- it is amazing that the difference is only 5 imps    quite a slugfest|pg||
nt|rv: 4@h is cold, 4@s is at worst 1 down?|pg||
mb|d|nt|pelu: Bessis 44 = 4 x 11 :)|pg||
nt|fokal: 4 @s makes, I'm pretty sure|pg||
nt|rv: only @c lead beats 4@s?|pg||
nt|fokal: but will E bid it ?|pg||
nt|ahollan1: kool observation Peter|pg||
nt|fokal: no, playing 3 round of @d|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|rv: even on @c lead, 3 rounds of @d will allow declarer to score contract|pg||
pc|c8|nt|Walddk2: We have had Sehwag and Dilshan at the crease in this room, and they have produced sixes en masse|pg||
pc|c2|nt|pelu: help from kibs :)|pg||
nt|rv: thanks to all kibs to point it out|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c3|pg||
nt|ahollan1: nice dummy partner!|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|h3|pc|c4|pc|c5|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|s3|pc|s2|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s9|pc|s7|pc|s4|pg||
nt|rv: normally on these auctions, east will pass with all semi-bal hands, Cohler might have bid 4@s with distributional hand (say 5@c+4@s)|pg||
pc|s5|pc|sJ|pc|h8|pc|s8|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h2|nt|Walddk2: Still time to exchange 100 IMPs in a set of 16 boards|pg||
pc|h4|pc|hT|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|c13|st||md|3SAK5HAQJ9743D43C3,SQJ96HTDKQCKT9874,S73HK8DT98765C652,ST842H652DAJ2CAQJ|sv|b|nt|galadriel: Maybe just South|pg||
nt|vugraphpl8: Only N can be a Junior|pg||
nt|galadriel: My goodness - I got 49 replies all at once!|pg||
nt|galadriel: Thank you everyone :)|pg||
nt|vugraphpl8: now w is very proud of 12. board|pg||
mb|p|mb|1C|mb|4H|nt|athene: will meckstroth double 4@S?|pg||
nt|athene: i think for most people if you bid 4@H then double 4@S it just says you have a good hand for 4@H; not especially with spades|pg||
mb|5C|nt|vugraphpl8: :)|pg||
nt|vugraphpl8: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/or161t3-2.htm|pg||
nt|brotherp: back|pg||
nt|vugraphpl8: http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg||
nt|athene: ok wow - i was expecting double from west|pg||
nt|jbgood: so was I|pg||
mb|p|nt|galadriel: Only South is Junior National|pg||
nt|jfaria:  wc b|pg||
mb|p|nt|glen: 4@S here doesn't work since @Hs play for two losers, and @Ds need for @C discards or there is a @C loser|pg||
nt|thenapster: and 3nt from south in heart lead also some problems|pg||
nt|brotherp: still a match it seems|pg||
mb|d|nt|glen: not sure what 2@C shows, if it did not show @Ds, might get a @D lead|pg||
mb|p|nt|jfaria:  what is 3@s |pg||
nt|jfaria:  another lsot game|pg||
nt|athene: well he can surely double this :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|fabsayc: 2@D asks size and spade length by steps|pg||
nt|pelu: kibs tells that they watched 5@d making, so "just" wrong in bridgemate - and we prob have the correct score here on BBO :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|brotherp: what happened to the td-board where lev made a bidding error?|pg||
pc|sK|nt|fokal: too bad , 4S may have won|pg||
nt|athene: a bit unlucky for EW perhaps; sometimes 5@C will work out much the best|pg||
pc|s6|nt|glen: 2@C may be a game force relay bid|pg||
nt|psyck: i thought they play 1N as gf relay :)|pg||
pc|s7|pc|s2|pg||
nt|glen: that was over 1@H|pg||
nt|psyck: but maybe that is only on 1@h open|pg||
nt|glen: to allow for 2@HXX|pg||
nt|jfaria:  still moe if board 24 results in some kind of penalty|pg||
nt|athene: still they can't really complain about their luck too much after the previous board|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s9|nt|psyck: :)|pg||
nt|vugraphpl8: running scores - http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/or16runda1.html|pg||
nt|glen: the @D queen is played to hide the location of the @D jack from W|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s4|pg||
nt|jfaria:  in open they r playing 4@d wich can make|pg||
nt|brotherp: 4D seems difficult; while 3@s seems 1 off at least|pg||
pc|hA|pc|hT|nt|psyck: so 2@c gf here & 2N further enquiry maybe|pg||
pc|h8|pc|h6|pg||
pc|s5|pc|sJ|nt|glen: now E can win this, play a @D, and get a @H through dummy|pg||
pc|c2|nt|thenapster: now e-w can attack the clubs|pg||
nt|glen: which has 1@S, 2@H, 1@D and 1@C|pg||
pc|s8|pg||
nt|jfaria:  4@d making in open|pg||
mc|9|nt|jbgood: the club ruff takes 4@s down - guess Meck would have found the defense|pg||
pg||
qx|o14|st||md|4SAJ432HA5D6543CAK,SKT6H9832DKT2CJ83,S5HQT64DA987CT654,SQ987HKJ7DQJCQ972|sv|o|nt|ahollan1: responder's "negative" double at the 4-level  gets left in a lot more with balanced hand than at lower levels|pg||
nt|rv: will panel double or bid 5@c with Mahaffey's hand in last deal?|pg||
nt|fokal: and pass or bid 4 @s with E hand ?|pg||
nt|rv: T Bessis bid 5@c in CR|pg||
nt|petergill: 5@C here|pg||
mb|p|mb|1S|nt|pelu: I see the result, but also closer to %@C|pg||
mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: but Cohler's pass looks right to Law followers   [if fuzzy brain is still working]|pg||
mb|2C!|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: After a tank for 3 minutes, Ambrosius (my turtle) says he would bid 5@C. Will the Snail, however, would have doubled|pg||
nt|fokal: I guess 5 @c is better. Even if you are lucky enough to find 4 @s in P hand, he might pass (as we saw here). If he doesn't have 4@s he is very likely to pass|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 1N was forcing|pg||
nt|rv: yes, I will pass with Cohler's hand, might have bid 5@c with Mahaffey's hand (not very sure)|pg||
nt|ahollan1: 2@C = 2+|pg||
nt|rv: may not be best treatment to have on this deal|pg||
nt|ahollan1: RV  you must be in diplomatic corps|pg||
nt|rv: N-S bound to get to inferior spot here|pg||
nt|pelu: with all this modern conventions its very diff to find a 4-4 fit in @D|pg||
nt|rv: lol|pg||
nt|fokal: :)|pg||
nt|fokal: he could have bid 2D I guess|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|fokal: but he choose to see his hand as balanced, I guess|pg||
pc|c3|nt|rv: maybe 1n opening better with South hand if he had this problem in system:)|pg||
pc|c4|nt|Walddk2: I don't want to learn a system where you must play 2@C with these cards|pg||
pc|c7|pc|cK|pg||
nt|rv: if he could have bid 2@d, he should have bid it:)|pg||
nt|pelu: we lost the @C-suit years ago, the @D-suit has been out for more that 20 years - when will the @H-suit go away? (If u live in new Zealand even the @ss almost out) :)|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|s5|pc|s7|pg||
pc|s2|pc|sT|pc|c5|pc|s8|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h7|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg||
nt|fokal: lol|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h3|pc|hT|pc|hJ|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|c6|pg||
pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|cT|pc|s9|pg||
pc|dA|pc|dJ|pc|d3|pc|d2|pg||
nt|rv: maybe Oz will lose @s suit next if it is epidemic disease?|pg||
pc|d7|pc|dQ|pc|d4|nt|petergill: On Bd 13, 4@S EW seems cold. Perhaps the theory should be: when the 4@H or 4@s bidder is opposite a passed hand, the t/o dbl should be taken out more often, as the 4@H or 4@S bid ...|pg||
nt|petergill: might be bid to make? If so, Mahaffey did the right thing and Cohler should bid 4@S. |pg||
pc|dT|pg||
mc|7|pg||
qx|c14|st||md|4SAJ432HA5D6543CAK,SKT6H9832DKT2CJ83,S5HQT64DA987CT654,SQ987HKJ7DQJCQ972|sv|o|nt|brotherp: in the round-robin they were the team of destiny - getting from about 40th to 27th (the last qualifying spot) in the last round|pg||
nt|fokal: I think 4 @s makes|pg||
nt|fokal: oin @c lead I play 3 round of @d|pg||
mb|p|nt|brotherp: can they do it again?|pg||
mb|1C|an|.|mb|p|nt|psyck: Last deal, thanks all, 2nd half in about 1/2 hour.|pg||
mb|1D|an|.|nt|galadriel: Last board now - |pg||
nt|jfaria:  not enough|pg||
nt|thenapster: 2cl for majors of course|pg||
nt|thenapster: e-w can make 5cl|pg||
nt|glen: hopefully S has same agreement|pg||
nt|brotherp: dangerous moment for 3@C...|pg||
mb|p|nt|vugraphpl8: sry|pg||
nt|jfaria:  but still emotion till las board|pg||
nt|brotherp: 5@C seems close now for Askgaard|pg||
mb|1S|an|.|nt|psyck: @d lead sets up 3 tricks in 5@c?|pg||
nt|glen: i thought they were out of XX cards?|pg||
mb|p|nt|bigtrain: big @C, little @D|pg||
mb|2C|an|.|nt|galadriel: Many thanks to Michal our VG operator - great job!|pg||
nt|psyck: guess a @d duck enough in 5@c|pg||
nt|jbgood: sry - 3 rounds of @d sees 4@s home - sry|pg||
mb|p|nt|thenapster: A@H is onside...|pg||
nt|thenapster: so only diamond lead have to duck like you said|pg||
mb|2D|an|.|nt|glen: @D duck is hard on a layout where N might have singleton @D and 1-2@Cs|pg||
nt|brotherp: good lead|pg||
nt|brotherp: and easy 2 off|pg||
nt|brotherp: seems to clinch victory for the mahaffey-guys|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 1@S = 4+ forcing for 1 round|pg||
mb|p|mb|2N|nt|jfaria:  yeap, regardless of result concerning b 24|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 2@C = 6-7 <4@S|pg||
mb|p|nt|bigtrain: 2@S scrambling|pg||
nt|athene: doesn't 2@C deny even 3 spades?|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 2@D that is|pg||
nt|athene: i thought they bid 2@D with 5-7 and 3 spades|pg||
nt|bigtrain: yes...  mistyped|pg||
nt|fokal: might be funny if in the other West does what some kib said , doubling 4 @h, and the auction ends up in 4 @hX|pg||
mb|3D|nt|glen: unless the @D 9 holds|pg||
nt|thenapster: yes|pg||
nt|glen: and the polish @D 3 lead is best|pg||
nt|thenapster: i think after redbl|pg||
nt|thenapster: thats showes same number of cards|pg||
nt|bigtrain: <3...  still dark here :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|thenapster: we can know that north is 6-5|pg||
nt|glen: last hand of the day for Mahaffey (the player, not the team)|pg||
nt|athene: :)|pg||
nt|Walddk4: Large margins in the other two finals. Women: Turkey + 27 vs the Netherlands, and seniors Grenthe (France) +32 against Pharon (England/Sweden)|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|pelu: NL Women missed both slams in Board 3 and 4|pg||
pc|c7|nt|athene: trump lead looks quite attractive on this auction|pg||
pc|cK|nt|thenapster: oh...bad play|pg||
nt|athene: north will have a three-suiter short in spades much of the time|pg||
pc|c3|nt|galadriel: and to Jaoa my fellow commentator :)|pg||
pc|c4|pg||
pc|sA|nt|jfaria:  thx my inspired coleague operator and fantastic kibs :)|pg||
nt|vugraphpl8: and Mahaffey thinks thesame he said: oh f***|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s5|pc|s7|pg||
pc|s2|pc|sK|nt|thenapster: oops|pg||
pc|d7|nt|galadriel: And to all the wonderful specs for your helpful comments|pg||
pc|s8|pg||
nt|glen: oh well, best to put meckwell in the second half just in case|pg||
pc|c5|nt|jfaria:  i meant first u Anne :)|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cA|nt|galadriel: Sry Joao :)|pg||
pc|c8|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 2NT by roddy is natual, shows short @S and usualy not 5@H|pg||
pc|s3|pc|sT|pc|d8|pc|s9|pg||
nt|jfaria:  a "," is missing|pg||
nt|vugraphpl8: Irens is K.O.|pg||
nt|jfaria:  lol|pg||
nt|galadriel: Congratulations Vito :)|pg||
nt|vugraphpl8: next match at 15.30|pg||
nt|galadriel: Bye evryone :)|pg||
nt|bigtrain: thus 8+ minors|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c9|pc|d3|nt|glen: 6@C at the other table|pg||
pc|cJ|pg||
pc|s4|pc|h2|pc|d9|pc|sQ|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h7|pc|hA|nt|glen: rodwell didn't bid much|pg||
pc|h3|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h8|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|o15|st||md|1SKQJ74HT9DQ2CJT85,S962H876D854CA943,S853HAJDAJT6CK762,SATHKQ5432DK973CQ|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|nt|pelu: Barry Goren : NT never die|pg||
mb|1C|nt|rv: deals get less distributional as expected|pg||
mb|1H|mb|1S|nt|ahollan1: 1@S=5+@S|pg||
mb|p|nt|rv: does director impart slow play penalties on either team in this case?|pg||
nt|rv: we can be sure Roland will impose|pg||
mb|2S|nt|fokal: I was about to say: we 'll know how many @s 1@s show with N's bid|pg||
nt|rv: Al, is our expert on all big @c systems|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|fokal: I was about to say: we 'll know how many @ss 1@s shows with N's bid|pg||
pc|h8|nt|rv: here unless TD is clear which side is playing slowly, not much point in imposing penalties since it is k/o match|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|h9|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c5|pc|cA|pc|c2|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c6|pc|sT|pc|c8|pg||
nt|pelu: if u bid 1@S on 4+ u can use the X to show values with no good bid or both unbidden suits|pg||
pc|h2|pc|hT|pc|h6|pc|hA|pg||
pc|s3|pc|sA|nt|rv: maybe financial penalties like prize money should be deducted as deterrent if both sides are slow|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s2|pg||
pc|hK|pc|d2|pc|h7|pc|s5|pg||
nt|pelu: the main penalty : no time for lunch|pg||
nt|petergill: Other table: anyone know what East's 2NT bid meant? 2NT worked well, but I have not seen it before, and want to add it to my bidding arsenal, whatever it means. |pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|c15|st||md|1SKQJ74HT9DQ2CJT85,S962H876D854CA943,S853HAJDAJT6CK762,SATHKQ5432DK973CQ|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|an|.|mb|1H|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2S|an|fit|nt|bigtrain: 1@S = 5+@S|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 2@S shows exactly a 3fit|pg||
mb|2N|an|.|nt|athene: 2nt takeout, typically 6@H 4minor i guess|pg||
mb|p|nt|athene: with 5-5 he would just bid his minor|pg||
mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|nt|athene: club ruff to beat 3@S, but even if east doesn't go for that, there is still a guess|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|bigtrain: i think 3@H was going down though|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|s4|pg||
nt|athene: was it?|pg||
nt|jbgood: yes - on a di lead the big heart in S would give 1 down|pg||
nt|athene: you can lead a trump from dummy and then afford to ruff high|pg||
nt|bigtrain: even without that there isn't enuf communication to do everything|pg||
nt|athene: ah sorry no of course|pg||
nt|vugraphpl8: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/of1t1-1.htm|pg||
nt|bigtrain: with only 1 entry you can't lead towards both red suits|pg||
nt|jbgood: even if E goes for a club ruff he will be endplayed |pg||
pc|hK|pc|h9|pc|h6|pc|hA|pg||
pc|s5|pc|sT|pc|sK|pc|s2|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d4|pc|d6|pc|dK|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|hT|pc|h7|pc|hJ|pg||
nt|fokal: endplayed ? without cashing the last trump ?|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|d8|pc|dT|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d7|pc|c5|pc|d5|pg||
nt|fokal: now it seems declarer has to guess @cs |pg||
pc|s8|pc|h3|pc|sQ|pc|s9|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c3|nt|athene: declarer knows that east has a singleton club now i suppose but that doesn't help him - it could be the ace or queen?|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cQ|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|o16|st||md|2SA632HAT97D9CK953,SKQ4HJ5DKJ742CAQ8,S7HKQ632DQT65CJT7,SJT985H84DA83C642|sv|e|nt|rv: only if there is inordinate delay, some allowance can be given for tricky deals|pg||
nt|Walddk2: So, 100 IMPs reached in style|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Last board of the set now|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Many thanks to Joanna, our outstanding operator in Poznan. Great job!|pg||
nt|petergill: Bd 15: OK, so 2NT was 6@H and 4 of either minor, thanks specs. |pg||
nt|Walddk2: Also thanks to our excellent commentators, Peter, Venky and Al|pg||
nt|vugraphpl5: next segment will start at 14.00|pg||
mb|1N|nt|Walddk2: In 55 minutes|pg||
nt|rv: thanks Joanna, Roland and all specs for patiently listening to us and for their insightful and mostly accurate feedback|pg||
mb|2H!|mb|2S|mb|4H|nt|rv: is 2@h 5+@h+4+m?|pg||
nt|petergill: 2@H =  5+@H  4+m|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: i think it is supposed to be 55 but they are favorable vul :)|pg||
nt|petergill: from their Convention Card|pg||
nt|rv: surprising Meckwell have sold out here|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s7|pg||
pc|d9|pc|d2|pc|d5|nt|fokal: with trumps 2-2 , since only 2 ruffs are needed (discard on @c) , this should make|pg||
nt|rv: on popular request from kibs, we also call Roland's turtle and snail for bidding ideas:)|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Another 11 IMPs here presumably|pg||
pc|dA|pg||
nt|rv: also thank Roland|pg||
nt|ahollan1: actually  meckwell might not have know about @H fit     1N-2@D[@D + major]|pg||
nt|petergill: 4@S goes for 500 on singleton lead, wrong vulnerability for 4@S|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c3|nt|Walddk2: The Germans in this room have outbid Meckwell; that does not happen often. Well done to them|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c7|pg||
pc|sK|pc|h2|pc|s5|pc|s2|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Very good card they have|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h4|pc|hA|pc|h5|pg||
pc|h9|pc|hJ|pc|hK|pc|h8|pg||
mc|10|nt|rv: 25 IMPs lead here for Bessis, match is far from over, another 32 boards in 2 more segments|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Thanks all, time for some lunch|pg||
nt|vugraphpl5: thanks all and see you soon!|pg||
nt|Walddk2: Back later|pg||
nt|rv: thanks all|pg||
nt|pelu: so 111 IMP imp's in 16 boards - not a record - but close for a final|pg||
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qx|c16|st||md|2SA632HAT97D9CK953,SKQ4HJ5DKJ742CAQ8,S7HKQ632DQT65CJT7,SJT985H84DA83C642|sv|e|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|jbgood: we are way ahead of the OR - last one of this segment now|pg||
nt|bigtrain: i'm a bit surprised taht roddy didn't bid at this colour|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|cQ|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s7|pc|s5|pc|sA|pg||
pc|d9|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pg||
nt|jbgood: 2 more segments to decide the winners - next starting in 95 mins or so|pg||
nt|fokal: NS can almost make 4 @h , do they strong NT in the other room too ?|pg||
pc|s8|pc|s2|pc|sQ|pc|h2|pg||
pc|s4|nt|fokal: do they play, sr |pg||
pc|h6|pc|s9|pc|s3|pg||
pc|sT|pc|s6|pc|c8|nt|fokal: even her, S could have doubled 2 @h but I agree it's a double dummy bid|pg||
nt|fokal: here|pg||
nt|pelu: D normal = 5 card+ suit|pg||
pc|c7|pg||
pc|d8|pc|h7|pc|dK|pc|d5|pg||
nt|fokal: maybe rodwell could have done something, wwhite against red|pg||
mc|8|nt|jbgood: looked as if the @d 10 should be given the trick  - for an overtrick...|pg||
nt|pelu: ok Hi all and tx to our fine operator Michal - and to kibs with a lot of comments |pg||
nt|jbgood: bye for now|pg||
nt|pelu: the scoring slowed down but only 2 flat boards so far (out of 11)|pg||
nt|pelu: next segment in 1½ hour|pg||
nt|vugraphpl8: next seg at 14.00 bye|pg||
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