vg|A Mixed Teams Round Robin,1_5,I,1,10,Gottlieb,0,Istanbul,0| rs|4SE-1,2SE+2,4SE=,4SE=,4HN+3,7CN=,3NN+2,3NN+2,4HS+2,4NS+2,4CW=,4SW-3,4HE=,4HE-1,4SNx=,6DEx=,4SN=,4SN=,2NW-2,2NE-2| pn|Michielsen,Gur,Fredin,Alp,NUHOGLU,Kuzselka,KANDEMIR,Gottlieb|pg|| qx|o2|st||md|4S9872HQ3D5CT97642,SQ5HAT64D863CKQJ3,SKHKJ872DKJT74CA8,SAJT643H95DAQ92C5|sv|n|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: Textbook auction|pg|| pc|d5|nt|Walddk2: 2@C was game-forcing|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Good morning to David Burn|pg|| nt|dburn: hello|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|cA|pg|| nt|dburn: East might have bid 3@d over 2NT, I guess, but no harm done|pg|| nt|Walddk2: N-S from Sweden/Netherlands, E-W from Turkey|pg|| nt|ballebodk: nice pas from N - he has 5-5 in unbid and 15 hp - but know so the the opps will by thw contract so way tell them how the sits are !|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|s2|pc|d6|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Surely no reason to get in when opps are in a GF situation and you are vulnerable against not|pg|| nt|Walddk2: That would be asking for trouble|pg|| nt|ballebodk: but i think a lot will try a X |pg|| pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h5|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c8|pc|h9|pc|c4|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Maybe after a 10+ 2@C, not a GF 2@C I hope|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s7|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s8|pc|s5|pc|d4|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o3|st||md|1SJTHQ72DA76CQJ542,SQ93H94DKQT85C963,SAK52HAKJT8D42CAK,S8764H653DJ93CT87|sv|e|mb|p|nt|dburn: North might have returned a low diamond rather than the jack - declarer could run it, of course, but...|pg|| mb|p|mb|2C|an| |nt|Walddk2: Not sure why we don't have a closed room for this match|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Technical problems presumably|pg|| mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|nt|ballebodk: 7h or 7 nt ?|pg|| mb|2H|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: 7NT is a fine spot indeed|pg|| mb|3H|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: But I don't know how you find out about @CJ|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: Do you have a method for that, Tom?|pg|| nt|dburn: Sout might find out about @cAK|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Pray tell if you have|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|ballebodk: nope - i think you have to play some precision relysystem |pg|| nt|dburn: well, she will find out about them later rather than sooner|pg|| pc|s6|nt|Walddk2: Yes, Grøtheim-Tundal and Bertheau-Nyström would perhaps be able to diagnose @CJ|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg|| nt|Walddk2: I am not impressed with this auction|pg|| nt|dburn: better for South to be asking the questions on this deal, oddly enough|pg|| nt|ballebodk: i think this show why "ad hoc" partnerships have their limitation in bidding - you dont have time to come all around in the system|pg|| mc|13|nt|dburn: but soemone seems to have stopped bidding in the middle here|pg|| pg|| qx|o4|st||md|2S765HATDKJT6CJT95,SA93HQJ874D984C42,SKJ2HK2DAQ7CAK863,SQT84H9653D532CQ7|sv|b|mb|p|mb|2C|an| |mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2N|nt|Walddk2: They get another chance with a 2@C opening|pg|| nt|ballebodk: Fredin is trying one more time ;0))))|pg|| mb|p|nt|dburn: perhaps that will lead them to bid a slam here - not a great contract, mind|pg|| nt|Walddk2: slam is of course terrible, but makeable|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: It could be one of my slams|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hT|pc|hJ|pc|hK|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|c9|pc|c2|pg|| nt|dburn: not "terrible" - just below the 30% mark|pg|| nt|dburn: far too good for Roland|pg|| nt|ballebodk: then you need one of the days when you the spade correct !|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Clubs must come in, a spade guess and no ruff|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Is that 30%, David?|pg|| nt|dburn: better play in 6NT to avoid the last of those problems|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cQ|pc|cJ|pc|c4|pg|| pc|c6|nt|dburn: clubs are about 58% to come in, and the spade finesse is around 50% also|pg|| pc|d2|pc|cT|nt|Walddk2: I thought clubs were 53%|pg|| pc|hQ|pg|| pc|c5|pc|h4|pc|c8|nt|Walddk2: 2-2 or singleton queen|pg|| nt|dburn: 2-2 is 40%, stiff queen is about 12.5%, and West having four is around 5%|pg|| nt|Walddk2: well OK, also 4-0 with the queen onside|pg|| pc|d3|pg|| pc|c3|pc|s4|pc|s5|pc|h7|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d5|pc|d6|pc|d4|pg|| pc|dA|pc|s8|pc|dT|pc|d8|pg|| pc|d7|pc|h5|pc|dK|pc|d9|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|h8|pc|s2|pc|sT|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s9|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hA|pc|s3|pc|h2|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sA|pc|sK|pc|h9|pg|| pg|| qx|o5|st||md|3SA43HKJ752DQJCAK8,S76H864DT7643CJ75,SKT52HQ3DAK92C964,SQJ98HAT9D85CQT32|sv|n|mb|1D|nt|dburn: another slam|pg|| nt|ballebodk: this is funny - a new slam for NS !|pg|| mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|ballebodk: this one is on heart 3-3|pg|| nt|dburn: better than the last - but still not very good|pg|| mb|2C|an| |mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ballebodk: but they have 18 hp against 12 hp and no fit - so - somebody have to do some overbidding |pg|| pc|s7|nt|dburn: nobody did, but 3NT looks preferable to 4@h, though the latter would be rather unlucky to go down|pg|| pc|s2|nt|dburn: maybe, if 2@c were forcing to game, South could bid 2NT rather than 3@h|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sA|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|d5|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d4|pc|d9|pc|d8|pg|| nt|ballebodk: y - even with hearts 6-0, you have 10 tricks in NT|pg|| nt|dburn: but it's possible that South thought that 2@h showed three|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c4|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h6|pc|h3|pc|h9|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h8|pc|c6|pc|hT|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|c5|st||md|3SA43HKJ752DQJCAK8,S76H864DT7643CJ75,SKT52HQ3DAK92C964,SQJ98HAT9D85CQT32|sv|n|nt|Walddk4: At long last|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Welcome everyone|pg|| nt|Walddk4: and welcome to Peter Lund|pg|| nt|pelu: hi all with some delay|pg|| mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|nt|brotherp: another interesting hand coming up|pg|| mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|bobholl: results on http://www.nbbportal.nl/27000/districtscompetitie_2.html|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Welcome to another Peter, Goodman from Wales|pg|| nt|pelu: Its Tyrkey against a real international team with players from USA, Germany, Sweden and Netherland|pg|| nt|petepunt: morning all|pg|| mb|2C!|nt|brotherp: seems like 4@h made needs some defensive cooperation|pg|| nt|brotherp: which they got in the open room|pg|| nt|wilkinsona: the 4 hearts played elsewhere does not look that attractive|pg|| mb|p|nt|oliverc: no|pg|| mb|2D|nt|roswolf: rehi|pg|| nt|roswolf: this looks a decent slam|pg|| nt|bobholl: For results: http://tinyurl.com/44xdakb this one shorter?|pg|| nt|wilkinsona: 5 diamonds seems ok|pg|| nt|brotherp: 5@d really in the picture now|pg|| mb|p|nt|pelu: a big swing in B3: in OR Fredin-Michielsen stopped in 4@H with 13 tricks from top in 7NT - the problem: a 2@C opening - also calles the "slam-killer" :)|pg|| mb|4N|nt|brotherp: well a @c lead would sink 5@d ...and North might have started with @c Ace |pg|| mb|p|nt|wilkinsona: yes, as spec says ...|pg|| nt|bobholl: 5 @D was the contract to be in but paulissens pass is understandable|pg|| nt|wilkinsona: and another spec points out the attractions of 3N|pg|| nt|bobholl: 5@D goes down also on 3@C |pg|| nt|brotherp: in the end the 4@H contract in the open room was made because North continued spades when in with the @hA|pg|| nt|bobholl: @C disappearing on @D|pg|| nt|brotherp: with South holding 3@d's that was just enough|pg|| nt|petepunt: tough 3rd bid for North, but 2@H looks better|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Operator, East's name is spelt Kuzselka|pg|| nt|pelu: there are 12 tricks - but only with @hs 3-3|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|roswolf: 6nt likely|pg|| nt|petepunt: 4NT feels the right spot though|pg|| pc|s7|nt|roswolf: can be made on a minor suit squeeze i think|pg|| nt|roswolf: 5nt pick a slam probably|pg|| nt|bobholl: 6@D easier|pg|| nt|roswolf: might bid a grand i suppose|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s8|pc|sA|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|roswolf: 7@D CAN be made by the backward finesse in trumps which pins the 10 +9|pg|| nt|roswolf: hardly likely though unless south shows his hand|pg|| nt|roswolf: this may be a long think|pg|| nt|bobholl: it is and understandable :)|pg|| nt|bobholl: s said he'll ask what he shows afterwards :)|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|d8|pg|| pc|dJ|nt|roswolf: this will take some time to play|pg|| pc|d4|nt|bobholl: can be made after giving up 1@H and than a @D @C squeeze on n|pg|| pc|d9|nt|oliverc: I have to go. Thanks everyone|pg|| pc|d5|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h4|nt|petepunt: usefull to play 4n as quant after going through 4th suit as many othet forcing bids avail|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg|| nt|roswolf: i am sure declarer will ultimately play for the squeeze|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s4|pc|s6|pc|sK|pg|| pc|dK|pc|c3|pc|c8|pc|d6|pg|| pc|dA|pc|h9|pc|s3|pc|d7|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hT|pc|hK|nt|roswolf: it is the final chance after cashing 2 diamonds etc|pg|| pc|h8|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h6|pc|c4|pc|c2|pg|| pc|h5|pc|c5|pc|c6|pc|cT|pg|| mc|12|pg|| qx|o6|st||md|4S643HKT6DJ64CK765,SKT8HA8D9CAQT9842,SAJ2HJ53DKQT873C3,SQ975HQ9742DA52CJ|sv|e|nt|dburn: well, at least no one can make a slam here|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1D|nt|ballebodk: no - it should be a partscore battle this time |pg|| mb|d|mb|2D|an| |mb|3C|mb|3D|nt|dburn: may well end in 4@c, since North and West will take one more bid each|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|4C|mb|p|nt|dburn: if this were the pairs, South might even double, but at IMPs that's not really in the picture|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|dK|nt|ballebodk: well - V have too do the spade rights to make it |pg|| pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d9|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c5|pc|cQ|pc|c3|pg|| pc|cA|pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|c6|pg|| pc|cT|pc|dT|pc|h2|pc|cK|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|c2|pc|d7|pc|d5|pg|| pc|c9|nt|dburn: the Turkish pair in the other room must have found out about the @cJ after all, because they played the grand slam in clubs|pg|| nt|dburn: that was dangerous, but it worked out all right|pg|| nt|Walddk2: I want their system|pg|| nt|dburn: might have started 2@c-3@c, of course|pg|| pc|d8|pc|h4|pc|c7|pg|| pc|sK|nt|dburn: meanwhile, declarer doesn't have many clues to the location of @sJ|pg|| nt|dburn: but he has started down a winning path|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s6|pg|| nt|pfbr: Morning Roland@h|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Hello sweetie @H|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h3|nt|dburn: well, that will assist the war effort|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Matches of 10 boards; 5 matches today and against tomorrow|pg|| nt|Walddk2: The Mixed Teams will continue through Wednesday|pg|| nt|ballebodk: i think the play of the spade K was very good - it leaves player with many options|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c6|st||md|4S643HKT6DJ64CK765,SKT8HA8D9CAQT9842,SAJ2HJ53DKQT873C3,SQ975HQ9742DA52CJ|sv|e|nt|wilkinsona: thanks|pg|| mb|p|nt|roswolf: another slam this time for n/s|pg|| mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1D|mb|d|nt|petepunt: west will prob be forced up to 4@C here too|pg|| nt|Walddk4: http://www.eurobridge.org/competitions/11Poznan/Bulletins/bul01.pdf for today's bulletin. I recommend pages 4 through 7 :)|pg|| mb|2D|mb|3C|mb|3D|mb|3H|nt|brotherp: easy 3NT...13 tricks seems like a lot though|pg|| mb|p|mb|4S|nt|Walddk4: running scores at http://r.poznan2011.pl/mxt/rrleaderb.html|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|petepunt: East suspects the 4-3 fit :)|pg|| pc|dK|nt|roswolf: hmm n/s didnt even try for the slam bonus|pg|| nt|ewj: I|pg|| nt|petepunt: lot to do here.|pg|| pc|dA|nt|bobholl: in this bidding the critical singleton @C is not shown|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d9|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c5|pc|c2|nt|bobholl: he claims with beer card as the last one @D7|pg|| nt|vugraphzhd: Small break now|pg|| nt|vugraphzhd: Standings after 10 of 22 rounds: 1st: Drijver Brink +72 2nd Schollaardt-wortel +42 3rd Jansma-Paulissen +27 4th Cornellisse Krijgsman +23|pg|| pc|c3|pg|| nt|roswolf: yes poor judgment not to show it|pg|| pc|s5|nt|petepunt: He needs to play N for the AJ@S for many reasons|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sT|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d2|pc|d6|nt|petepunt: SHe has started very well here :)|pg|| pc|sK|pg|| pc|cA|pc|s2|nt|petepunt: but bad @C break will not be good news|pg|| pc|s9|pc|c6|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dJ|nt|petepunt: have to setle for 2 off now|pg|| pc|s8|pc|d3|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|h6|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h5|pc|h4|pc|hT|pg|| pc|s3|pc|c4|pc|sA|pc|s7|pg|| pc|d8|pc|h7|pc|c7|pc|c8|pg|| pc|d7|pc|sQ|pc|hK|pc|c9|pg|| pc|h9|pc|s6|pc|cT|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cQ|pc|dT|pc|hQ|pg|| pg|| qx|o7|st||md|1SKQ2HJT7DAT85C753,S6H6DKQ97432CAQ82,SAJ73H82DJ6CJT964,ST9854HAKQ9543DCK|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|nt|dburn: but in a sense Fredin needed to shift to that heart to save the overtrick|pg|| mb|p|mb|2C|nt|Walddk2: http://www.eurobridge.org/competitions/11Poznan/Bulletins/bul01.pdf for today's bulletin. I recommend pages 4 through 7 :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|4H|nt|ballebodk: yike for a misfit - ending in 4 hearts ?|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|vugraphpl2: running scores: http://r.poznan2011.pl/mxt/rrleaderb.html|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s6|pc|sA|pc|s5|pg|| pc|h8|nt|ballebodk: ups - then declarer got the 10th trick in spade|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|h6|pg|| nt|dburn: that seemed a bit excessive - the defence has now collapsed four spade tricks into three|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hT|pc|d2|pc|h2|pg|| nt|dburn: still, it was hard for North to picture East's exact hand|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hJ|pc|d3|pc|d6|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c5|pc|cA|pc|c4|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c6|pc|s4|pc|c3|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c7|st||md|1SKQ2HJT7DAT85C753,S6H6DKQ97432CAQ82,SAJ73H82DJ6CJT964,ST9854HAKQ9543DCK|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|nt|pelu: look at the @S-suit - against 4@h S lead @SK - and N took @SA to play @H = only 3 @S-losers for E|pg|| nt|pelu: 2@D or 2@C by West - I prefer 2@c|pg|| mb|2S|nt|brotherp: ns are playing some kind of strong club|pg|| mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|nt|pelu: in OR 2@C and then 2@S = 4. suit - so the NS didnt know the @S-suit by decl|pg|| mb|p|nt|bobholl: he showed 5@H 4@D and a minimum|pg|| mb|p|nt|bobholl: tricky play |pg|| nt|bobholl: with 52 cards open not difficult but |pg|| nt|brotherp: best lead|pg|| nt|bobholl: jansma does that (too) often :)|pg|| nt|petepunt: may even lead @H here|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|wilkinsona: plenty of chances though|pg|| nt|petepunt: @C suit is interesting here|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h2|nt|brotherp: think Verhees will play West for the @dJ...keeping the dangerous hand of lead|pg|| nt|wilkinsona: looks logical|pg|| nt|bobholl: but how to cross ? open up the @H for defenders ?|pg|| pc|hA|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h7|pc|d2|pc|h8|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hT|pc|d3|nt|roswolf: yes he needs to st up the side suit|pg|| nt|brotherp: easy hand now|pg|| pc|dJ|pg|| nt|petepunt: will need to use a little deception to make this one|pg|| pc|h9|pc|d5|pc|d4|pc|c4|pg|| nt|brotherp: only some ego-points to be won by divining the black suit distribution now|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|d6|pc|h3|pc|d8|pc|d7|pg|| nt|brotherp: going for beauty and a throw in or simply playing for the @sK onside|pg|| nt|brotherp: the latter|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sK|pc|d9|pc|s3|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|dQ|pc|s7|pc|s4|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|cK|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c9|pc|sT|pc|c3|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o8|st||md|2SKQJ52HJT54D8CQT3,SA94HKQ9DJ4CA9875,ST8763H6DA952CK64,SHA8732DKQT763CJ2|sv|o|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2D|nt|Walddk2: Well, maybe not so hard to trust partner to switch to a trump when she sees dummy|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Marion has played before|pg|| nt|dburn: this is not a slam, though it may look like one to East-West|pg|| mb|p|mb|2H|mb|2S|mb|3D|nt|dburn: indeed she has, but she might have a trump holding like @hQxx|pg|| nt|ballebodk: pas to 2 D is simple to passive !|pg|| mb|4S|nt|dburn: so I can understand why Fredin did what he did - I hope his team-mates are as sympathetic as I|pg|| mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|dK|nt|dburn: well, someone bid spades, though not necessarily the someone you would think|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d4|pc|dA|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d6|pc|s2|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h9|pc|h6|pc|hA|pg|| nt|dburn: and this may turn out to be one of the better kinds of sacrifice - one that makes|pg|| nt|vugraphpl2: running scores http://r.poznan2011.pl/mxt/rrleaderb.html|pg|| nt|ballebodk: if east have seen the possible spadedanger an bid 4 h - i think that would have bourght the contract |pg|| pc|cJ|nt|Walddk2: This score service is second to none. Credit to Jan Romanski|pg|| pc|c3|nt|Walddk2: They should copy it all over the world|pg|| pc|c5|nt|dburn: it might, but 4@h would be a pretty odd thing to do over 1NT|pg|| pc|cK|pg|| pc|s6|pc|d3|pc|sK|pc|s4|pg|| nt|ballebodk: but then partner could have: AKQ10 in spade ;0)|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hK|pc|s3|pc|h2|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|sQ|pc|c7|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hQ|pc|s7|pc|h3|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dT|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|c2|pc|cT|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c6|pc|dQ|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|hJ|mc|10|pg|| qx|c8|st||md|2SKQJ52HJT54D8CQT3,SA94HKQ9DJ4CA9875,ST8763H6DA952CK64,SHA8732DKQT763CJ2|sv|o|nt|bobholl: standing after R 9 brink drijv 44 wortel scholl 18 jansma paul 15 so we see a meeting between 2 and 3|pg|| mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|bobholl: in pairs it was rigth to play @D in imp @C seems rigth|pg|| mb|4S|mb|4N|mb|p|mb|5H|nt|roswolf: east's opening is ugly|pg|| nt|roswolf: west will likely lead a spade|pg|| mb|d|nt|brotherp: no light openers for Jansma (agreed it is a disgusting collection)|pg|| mb|p|nt|petepunt: tough to deafeat this|pg|| mb|p|mb|5N|nt|bobholl: 3nt a good save against 4@S funny :)|pg|| nt|roswolf: yup bridge is a strange but wondrous game|pg|| nt|bobholl: on a @H lead anyway :)|pg|| mb|d|mb|6D|mb|p|nt|bobholl: nice balance from gert jan (paulissen)|pg|| nt|brotherp: still Paulissen is there so EW reach their part-score in clubs|pg|| mb|p|mb|d|nt|bobholl: but i saw 2nt as balance (may be wrong)|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hJ|pc|hK|pc|h6|pc|h2|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|d8|pg|| nt|brotherp: Jansma doesnt know trumps are 2-2 so looking for the best way to play diamonds|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d5|pc|dK|pc|s5|pg|| pc|dT|pc|s2|pc|c5|pc|dA|pg|| pc|s3|pc|c2|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s8|pc|d7|nt|bobholl: now N thinks he's endplayed :)|pg|| pc|sQ|pg|| nt|vugraphzhd: A very short break now|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|h4|pc|c7|pc|d9|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|hQ|pc|s6|pg|| pc|h9|mc|12|pg|| qx|o9|st||md|3SAKJ82HQT964DCJ87,ST6HJ5DAJ87642CQT,SQ754H73DQT3CA963,S93HAK82DK95CK542|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|2D|an| |nt|dburn: that will even things up, since the Turkish team collected another big swing on board 6 when they tried a 4-3 spade fit|pg|| mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s9|nt|dburn: 2@d majors, and West seemed to have no convenient way to enter the auction over that|pg|| nt|vugraphpl2: running scores http://r.poznan2011.pl/mxt/rrleaderb.html|pg|| nt|dburn: some play that 2@h shows clubs and a good hand, 2@s diamonds and a good hand, while 3@c and 3@d are not forcing|pg|| nt|vugraphpl2: http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg|| nt|ballebodk: i think that it need a wrong guess in heart to go down i 4 spade |pg|| pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|s4|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sT|pc|sQ|pc|s3|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|h5|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c7|pc|cT|pc|cA|pg|| pc|h7|nt|dburn: meanwhile, this will make since the defenders can't unscramble their club tricks|pg|| nt|dburn: leading a club would have worked better, but that was not at all easy|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h6|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c8|pc|cQ|pc|c3|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dT|pc|dK|pc|s8|pg|| nt|dburn: ducking the first heart might also have succeeded if declarer had finessed, but that was also pretty tough|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|d4|pc|c6|pc|h2|pg|| pc|hT|pc|d6|pc|c9|pc|h8|pg|| pc|h9|pc|d7|pc|d3|pc|d5|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|d8|pc|s5|pc|c5|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c9|st||md|3SAKJ82HQT964DCJ87,ST6HJ5DAJ87642CQT,SQ754H73DQT3CA963,S93HAK82DK95CK542|sv|e|nt|bobholl: if e had ducked the 1st @C would have been much more difficult|pg|| nt|petepunt: this has been a good come back by fredins team here|pg|| nt|pelu: a biddinbg misunderstand - and unlucky lead chanced 650 to 1090|pg|| mb|p|nt|roswolf: this is a bits and pieces hand|pg|| mb|1C|mb|2C!|mb|p|mb|3S|nt|brotherp: precision 1@d|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|brotherp: asking 2@c|pg|| mb|4D|nt|bobholl: spades a bit unpretty|pg|| nt|pelu: the key-pælay in 4@s in OR was in trick 3 - after 2x@S N played @h7 - and @HK from East - all over|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|wilkinsona: the rebidable singleton..|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|brotherp: not so easy to lead @d's now|pg|| nt|wilkinsona: now west was -2 elsewhere, how can East do?|pg|| nt|bobholl: e has shown 4414 or 4405 so easy :)|pg|| nt|brotherp: and another lead seems to let the contract through|pg|| mb|p|nt|wilkinsona: ..and this seems to...|pg|| nt|brotherp: still West passes 3NT knowing the shortness; so club lead looks attractive|pg|| nt|pelu: for me 4@D is not bridge red against green and opp stop in 3@s|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sA|pc|s6|nt|bobholl: 4@H 2@C 3@S may be |pg|| nt|brotherp: small spade or small club both seem attractive|pg|| pc|s4|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sT|pc|sQ|pc|s3|pg|| nt|dburn: why is it "not bridge" to try for plus 130 instead of minus 140?|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|hT|nt|bobholl: small @D ?|pg|| nt|brotherp: think so; in the bidding and play East's 4441 is known so...|pg|| nt|wilkinsona: well south knows his partner has 4 diamonds...|pg|| nt|brotherp: still a lot off guessing to be done by van Prooijen|pg|| nt|wilkinsona: perhaps the diamond 9...|pg|| pc|hJ|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h7|nt|bobholl: k@D @C looks best|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h4|pg|| nt|petepunt: or to try for -420 v -170 :)|pg|| pc|d5|pc|s2|pc|d2|pc|d3|pg|| nt|pelu: West find partner with the best possible cards - and still down 1 - could easy cost 500 to bid 4@D|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|d4|pc|s5|pc|h8|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o10|st||md|4SQT6HJT76D9873CAK,SJ82HKQDAJ54CT765,SK975H9843DQTCQ93,SA43HA52DK62CJ842|sv|b|nt|dburn: so the multi-national corporation may pull out the match at the wire (whatever that means)|pg|| mb|1C|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|nt|vugraphpl2: last deal for now|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|ballebodk: y - the two last nice boards to NS should even the match|pg|| pc|h3|nt|dburn: this is a little high - declarer will have to work hard|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hT|pc|hK|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c9|nt|dburn: but even if he (she?) guesses diamonds, I don't see an eighth trick|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cA|pg|| nt|dburn: so declarer will have to work extremely hard|pg|| nt|vugraphpl2: schedule http://www.poznan2011.pl/schedule|pg|| pc|h6|pc|hQ|pc|h8|pc|h5|pg|| pc|cT|nt|ballebodk: right in D - then: 1 sp, 3 h, 3 d, and 1 c = 8|pg|| pc|c3|nt|dburn: maybe, but North is allowed to shift to spades - if he continues hearts, though...|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cK|pg|| nt|Walddk2: I think women are East and South always. It's an EBL rule, not sure why it must be like that|pg|| nt|Walddk2: There is no logic to it in my view|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Let them sit where they want for goodness sake|pg|| nt|dburn: sorry - North isn't allowed to shift to anything|pg|| nt|dburn: so South needs to play a spade, and that may need to be specifically the ten|pg|| nt|ballebodk: if s should shift to spade, N's better be very good ;0)|pg|| nt|dburn: though in practice West is not likely to guess diamonds even so|pg|| nt|dburn: there came 12 more IMPs to Istanbul when 4@h failed at the other table on board 7|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s8|pc|s9|pc|s3|pg|| pc|s5|nt|dburn: good switch - wasn't the ten, but West didn't see a need to play the jack to block the suit|pg|| pc|sA|nt|dburn: so this is down now whatever happens|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s2|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pg|| nt|dburn: and may very well be down two|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Next match 15 minutes past the hour, in theory. Delay possible|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|sQ|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|s7|pc|c4|pc|d7|nt|ballebodk: still - a very nice shift from S|pg|| nt|Walddk2: 90 teams taking part in the mixed teams, so it takes a while to get them seated|pg|| mc|6|nt|Walddk2: Thanks all and bye for now|pg|| nt|dburn: would take even longer if they had to decide for themselves whether to be North or East|pg|| nt|vugraphpl2: the next round should begin at 12:15|pg|| nt|Walddk2: I like 'should' :)|pg|| nt|vugraphpl2: :)|pg|| nt|vugraphpl2: sorry for all technical problems...|pg|| nt|vugraphpl2: at the begining...|pg|| nt|Walddk2: np Maria, not your fault|pg|| nt|vugraphpl2: I hope that it will be better, without problems...|pg|| nt|vugraphpl2: ty :) and see you soon :)|pg|| pg|| qx|c10|st||md|4SQT6HJT76D9873CAK,SJ82HKQDAJ54CT765,SK975H9843DQTCQ93,SA43HA52DK62CJ842|sv|b|nt|bobholl: a major bid would be fine|pg|| nt|roswolf: this could be bloody if someone gets too frisky|pg|| nt|petepunt: however would have bid 2@D first time|pg|| mb|1C|mb|p|nt|pelu: agree, Peter, 4@D now is a gamble - almost like all-in|pg|| mb|2C!|nt|petepunt: prefer to be able to bid 1n with wests cards|pg|| mb|p|nt|roswolf: strong cub|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Bid it?|pg|| mb|2N|nt|bobholl: jan (jansma) asks why east thougth so long :)|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|roswolf: north gets that sinking feeling|pg|| mb|p|nt|dburn: West found partner with what West could expect - a bog-standard weak no trump with two low spades|pg|| nt|Walddk4: It's not a great 11 count with KQ doubleton|pg|| pc|h6|nt|petepunt: its a shocking 11 count :)|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h3|pc|h2|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dT|nt|brotherp: finally an easy hand|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d3|pg|| pc|d2|nt|roswolf: blood will flow|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dJ|nt|bobholl: they play polish @C so N knows S is strong |pg|| nt|bobholl: jan is thinking long not normal for him|pg|| pc|dQ|pg|| pc|h4|nt|bobholl: not that easy he still has got a lot of losing @D|pg|| nt|brotherp: not knowing the friendly distribution though Schollaard will spend some time figuring out the savest way|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h7|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|dA|nt|dburn: so far, so bad|pg|| pc|h9|pc|d6|pc|d8|pg|| nt|roswolf: this looks only -1|pg|| pc|c5|nt|brotherp: setting up clubs sure is|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c8|pc|cK|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|d5|pc|h8|pc|hA|pg|| nt|petepunt: in 1N he would have set up a @C|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c9|pg|| pc|hT|pc|c7|nt|roswolf: east seems to have created a lot of losers now|pg|| nt|bobholl: gert jan looking whether it can be more than 1 down|pg|| nt|roswolf: but just an illusion|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s3|pg|| pc|d9|pc|cT|pc|s7|pc|c4|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s2|pc|s9|pc|sA|pg|| mc|6|pg||