vg|EC 2011 Mixed Teams Final,1_3,I,1,16,Vriend,0,Zimmermann,0| rs|4HW+1,4HE+1,2SW=,3SW=,4SN-4,3DS=,3NN-1,4HS-1,4HN-2,4HSx-1,4SS=,4SS=,4HW=,4HW=,2CW+3,3CE+2,3NE-1,3NW=,1NN+1,1NN+1,1HN+2,1HN+1,2HE-1,2HE-1,4HS=,4HS+1,2HN=,3NS=,3NW=,3NW+3,3NN=,5CS-1| pn|Vriend,Zimmermann,Maas,Cronier,D OVIDIO,Bakkeren,Cronier,Arnolds|pg|| qx|o2|st||md|4SAK43HA83D964CK64,SQJT52H75DKQ52CAJ,S9HQ94DAT73CT9752,S876HKJT62DJ8CQ83|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1C!|mb|1S|nt|odysseus69: were heading for 2S|pg|| mb|2C|nt|Walddk2: Operator, you did not connect properly|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|nt|timb: The two level seems to be the limit here|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Please be quiet for a moment|pg|| nt|Walddk2: The tables are not linked|pg|| nt|timb: maybe not|pg|| nt|Walddk2: gee|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|hawe45: Now everyting OK here|pg|| pc|cT|nt|hawe45: Re-bonjour de Copenhague - que les meilleurs gagnent...|pg|| nt|hawe45: Sry, privat|pg|| nt|Walddk2: We have English commentary here|pg|| nt|rv: re all|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Ignore the 14 IMPs|pg|| nt|Walddk2: 4@H entered in the wrong column on board 1|pg|| nt|hawe45: Was coccercte Mister Wald, with the word privat = privat in our native language|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c6|nt|odysseus69: looks like 8 tricks or pssible 9 if defence slips|pg|| pc|cJ|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Now we have a push on board 1, all is well|pg|| pc|cA|nt|mareczek: I think N could bid 2NT reopening the bidding to show the @d suit|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c8|pc|c4|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|dJ|pc|d6|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d4|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|s2|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d7|pc|s6|pc|d9|pg|| nt|odysseus69: 2NT too rich for me- facing a probable weak nt with maybe only 2 clubs|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s3|nt|rv: in my view, not enough for North to bid again |pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s9|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dT|pc|s8|nt|rv: we have Mixed Pairs finals tomorrow, Open event starts from Fri onwards|pg|| pc|h3|pg|| nt|odysseus69: not best by declarer|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|h4|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h5|pc|hQ|pc|h2|pg|| pc|c9|pc|h6|pc|sK|pc|s5|pg|| pc|sA|pc|sT|pc|c2|pc|hT|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sJ|pc|h9|pc|hJ|pg|| pg|| qx|c2|st||md|4SAK43HA83D964CK64,SQJT52H75DKQ52CAJ,S9HQ94DAT73CT9752,S876HKJT62DJ8CQ83|sv|n|nt|roswolf: what was the end result operator?|pg|| nt|roswolf: -2 for 6 imps to the norwegian team|pg|| nt|roswolf: no it didnt actually:)|pg|| nt|roswolf: trump again lo|pg|| nt|riccho: so finland quadrupled their lead|pg|| nt|jbgood: Good morning all|pg|| mb|p|nt|djneill: push|pg|| nt|hajru: No, don't think so.|pg|| mb|p|nt|Walddk4: East is Arnolds West is Bakkeren|pg|| mb|3S|nt|roswolf: will north bid his own suit?|pg|| nt|roswolf: a diversionary effort from tor?|pg|| nt|roswolf: this may be interesting|pg|| nt|pelu: hi all|pg|| nt|hajru: Good morning everybody|pg|| nt|roswolf: hi all|pg|| nt|roswolf: HERE the bidding had reached 3@H|pg|| mb|p|nt|hajru: Not sure what happened here as it appeared that EW had 7 tricks|pg|| mb|p|nt|spooky: a very weak 1@S from Tor|pg|| nt|roswolf: psyche from tor|pg|| nt|roswolf: north passed - really|pg|| nt|roswolf: amazing|pg|| nt|jaapfr: 3@S @HA @SA|pg|| nt|jaapfr: 3@C|pg|| nt|hajru: Yes, that is true. |pg|| nt|hajru: OK, did we really have a French person open a weak NT here?|pg|| nt|Walddk4: And South's name has an I in the middle instead of an O|pg|| nt|blum1956: hi all|pg|| mb|p|nt|hajru: I think we have the wrong board in front of us|pg|| nt|roswolf: we are off Holland v France/Monaco|pg|| nt|pelu: for sure|pg|| pc|c5|nt|roswolf: SOUTH MUST PROTECT SURELY|pg|| nt|roswolf: hi michael|pg|| nt|Walddk4: d'OVIDIO|pg|| nt|roswolf: AND NOW 3NT|pg|| nt|roswolf: far too optimistic - too much dutch courage for breakfast?|pg|| nt|Walddk4: I doubt that EW are in 3NT|pg|| nt|blum1956: Bakkeren in 3@s|pg|| nt|pelu: as I remember W was in 3@s|pg|| nt|roswolf: well east had bid 3@H and 3nt looks ok then by west|pg|| nt|roswolf: ok i concede the contract is probably 3@S by west|pg|| nt|Walddk4: I am not sure EW are too pleased with the Russia flags they have, but of course they don't know|pg|| nt|blum1956: Probably making if West starts with hearts|pg|| nt|hajru: That makes more sense|pg|| nt|roswolf: this depends on the @H guess at first blush but the trump break is inconvenient|pg|| mc|9|nt|roswolf: 2 imps for an extra undertrick in 2@S|pg|| nt|roswolf: heart support?|pg|| nt|roswolf: yes this is bd 2 perhaps bd 1 fits:)|pg|| pg|| qx|o3|st||md|1SQ6HKDAQ74CAKT976,SATHAQJ985DK962C4,SKJ54HT6432DJT83C,S98732H7D5CQJ8532|sv|e|nt|odysseus69: danger here for n/s on unfiendly lie|pg|| nt|rv: shapely hands, but no fit and poor breaks for both sides|pg|| mb|1C!|mb|1H|mb|d!|mb|p|nt|rv: South's major suit values not pulling enough weight, if Vriend reverses with 2@d North should slow down auction by supporting @ds via lebensohl |pg|| nt|rv: if North had bid 1@s, then South's 2@d would be reverse, here South might have take stonger action |pg|| mb|3D|nt|Walddk2: Double would normally just show spades and nothing about diamonds|pg|| mb|p|nt|odysseus69: 1C was probably a Polish type club - either strong or weak NT- so 3D is the reverse maybe|pg|| nt|Walddk2: In that case 2@D is a reverse|pg|| nt|Walddk2: N-S do not play Polish Club|pg|| nt|Walddk2: They are naturalists|pg|| nt|odysseus69: what would he do with strong hand with diamond suit|pg|| nt|mareczek: 2@d would show the hand 5@c4@d below reverse I was informed by the Dutch experts|pg|| nt|hawe45: 3 @D seems un-economical, what should that show? Not SO strong, the South-hand|pg|| nt|Walddk2: 1@C alerted because it can be 2 cards|pg|| nt|rv: 3@d seems reasonable here|pg|| mb|3S|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: Strange, I would play 3@D as a splinter for spades as 2@D is a natural reverse|pg|| nt|rv: in standard methods it is Inv and North can pass|pg|| mb|4S|nt|odysseus69: glad you are here Roland- so a natural system|pg|| nt|hawe45: Standard, Victor...?|pg|| mb|p|nt|Walddk2: See?|pg|| mb|p|nt|Walddk2: Maas interpreted 3@D as a splinter for spades|pg|| mb|p|nt|Walddk2: As would I|pg|| nt|odysseus69: time for doubling but very shy in mixed teams all week|pg|| nt|rv: playing Polish Club, Roland's expln makes more sense|pg|| nt|hawe45: Double not allowed in first final-round...?|pg|| nt|hawe45: Partned BID vulnerable...!|pg|| nt|mareczek: Maas Vriend is the most experienced, long establishe mixed pair in the world|pg|| nt|mareczek: so we can assess how difficult position it had to be...|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hK|nt|hawe45: Peopple try to convince me, that East could fear an escape in 5 @D - that´s a joke!|pg|| nt|rv: I presume Maas and Roland were on the same wavelength with respect to system, unfortunately Roland can't partner Maas in this event:)|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h3|pg|| nt|odysseus69: no double no trouble is the popular phrase for this hand|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h4|nt|Walddk2: Vriend thought Maas had shown diamonds as well with his double, hence the misunderstanding|pg|| nt|rv: cheap at 50 an undertrick could be another phrase|pg|| nt|Walddk2: So she thought she supported diamonds|pg|| pc|d5|pc|s6|pg|| nt|mareczek: probably the double of 1@h promised only spades|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|h2|pc|c2|pg|| nt|Walddk2: From Maas's chair, yes|pg|| pc|cK|nt|Walddk2: and thereore 2@D is a reverse|pg|| nt|Walddk2: 3@D a splinter for spades|pg|| nt|odysseus69: i expected a trump lead but maybe this will work out better|pg|| nt|hawe45: After 40 years as a mixed pair, it will slowly be the time for discussing this double...|pg|| nt|Walddk2: They are not only a pair at the table|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Plenty of opportunities to discuss this|pg|| nt|odysseus69: did well to stop low in CR|pg|| nt|rv: 3@d is good stop, well judged since South's values in short suits need to be downgraded|pg|| nt|Walddk2: D'Ovidio bid a natural 2@D (reverse) and everything was fine after that|pg|| pc|sA|pc|d3|pc|c3|pg|| nt|rv: some specs are suggesting 2@h by South as another option on double, in my view it shows GF and South's hand is not so good for that action|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|sQ|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Non-vulnerable and undoubled, not a disaster|pg|| nt|Walddk2: 45 boards to go after this|pg|| pc|c6|pc|h5|pc|s5|pc|c5|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s2|pc|c7|pc|d2|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s7|pc|d4|pc|h8|pg|| mc|6|nt|odysseus69: looks like down 3 for 6 imps|pg|| pg|| qx|c3|st||md|1SQ6HKDAQ74CAKT976,SATHAQJ985DK962C4,SKJ54HT6432DJT83C,S98732H7D5CQJ8532|sv|e|nt|Walddk4: Better|pg|| nt|roswolf: this might be tricky for n/s - will depend on the choice of opening bid|pg|| nt|hedyg: running scores for this round not up yet|pg|| nt|roswolf: this has a few lurkering traps|pg|| nt|djneill: I open South's hand|pg|| nt|roswolf: i might too|pg|| nt|arno11: there is north http://www.worldbridge.org/people/person.asp?qryid=10968|pg|| nt|roswolf: on bd 2 e/w in the other room is in 2@S|pg|| mb|1C|mb|1H|nt|Walddk4: Helness with only one L|pg|| nt|spooky: Some strong NT I guess|pg|| nt|roswolf: first blood to the Dutch|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: http://b.poznan2011.pl/mxt/frunda1.html|pg|| nt|hajru: Yes, let's end the match now ;-)|pg|| mb|d|nt|roswolf: 1nt probably precision 13-15|pg|| nt|jaapfr: E will bid|pg|| mb|p|nt|granguru: hi all witam|pg|| nt|roswolf: i would look at my screen-mate and decide|pg|| nt|jaapfr: sorry not expecting a 1@S by N|pg|| mb|2D|nt|granguru: zarfans: 10+8+2+2=22 far from an opening bid|pg|| nt|roswolf: 1nt is stultifying|pg|| nt|granguru: 10+8+3+2=23 sorry|pg|| mb|2H|nt|roswolf: i think gf actually|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Welcome John|pg|| nt|roswolf: hi john|pg|| nt|hajru: Specs, NS has to win by 2 imp's or more to reach the next round.|pg|| nt|roswolf: well n/s have found their fit|pg|| nt|roswolf: this could end with blood on the carpet|pg|| nt|pelu: I exp that the x only show 4 card @S, so 2@D from S = reverse values|pg|| mb|p|nt|Walddk4: Good morning to Tarjei Eck Hansen|pg|| nt|jaapfr: would any of us:)?|pg|| nt|riccho: ahh there is the 7th trick in bd 15 :)|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: sry|pg|| nt|psyck: lucky @c44|pg|| nt|psyck: & @s fin on|pg|| mb|p|nt|roswolf: bergen raise here|pg|| nt|hedyg: that N hand is not really worth 17 hcps, is it?|pg|| nt|hajru: I would not, but then again, I usually play a system where 1H is limited to about 17, rather than the 21 in |pg|| nt|hajru: a natural system.|pg|| nt|jaapfr: even then never 1@S|pg|| nt|hajru: If you had to bid, what would you bid then?|pg|| nt|jaapfr: pass or pass or pass:)|pg|| nt|blum1956: This is allready doubleable|pg|| mb|3C|nt|teckh: hi all|pg|| nt|roswolf: 2nt =23+ bal|pg|| nt|hedyg: so downgraded to the 2@H replay|pg|| nt|hedyg: reply*|pg|| nt|roswolf: true michael|pg|| mb|p|nt|riccho: np; I guess its very tricky to get the informations across to you from the table, if they are not interested :)|pg|| mb|3D|nt|roswolf: south scared into passing - how could 4@C be wrong|pg|| nt|roswolf: the bludegeon shouldnt work on this deal|pg|| nt|djneill: I like the 3NT bid, whenever I bid 2NT, it seems to make no difference - it makes 3, or goes down 1, whatever I do|pg|| nt|roswolf: spades 3-3 gives some hope i suppose|pg|| mb|p|nt|riccho: is there a tiebreaker rule in the unlikely event of a draw? |pg|| nt|hajru: I'm sure there is. |pg|| nt|arno11: might make 4 can pitch @C loser on @D after finessing against N|pg|| mb|p|nt|teckh: well bid, I think|pg|| nt|granguru: hi geoffrey|pg|| nt|roswolf: 2@D might be the majority choice|pg|| nt|hajru: Downloading the conditions of contest as we speak.|pg|| nt|roswolf: pass is favorite|pg|| mb|p|nt|jaapfr: now S even get slam ideas (sorry this is monday morning bidding:)|pg|| nt|psyck: still a good game as those are the chances if @d fin off|pg|| nt|pelu: in Or Beb Vriend jump to 3@D|pg|| pc|hA|nt|arno11: after @C lead this might not work anymore|pg|| nt|roswolf: this will play quite well despite the 4-1 trump break|pg|| pc|h2|nt|spooky: All about @HJ now|pg|| nt|spooky: with this lead she has enough entries to misguess it... |pg|| pc|h7|pc|hK|pg|| nt|hajru: Opposite SQxxx and a red ace, 6S has a chance, and it is not clear if N would cooperate over 4D|pg|| nt|jaapfr: pls check operator if N will say afterwards as sweet as possible: sorry pd:)?|pg|| nt|pelu: a overbid with @HK stiff in front of the @H overcall|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hT|pc|d5|nt|roswolf: by e/w certainly - 3@D seemed to confuse the opps|pg|| nt|roswolf: certainly would be in my club|pg|| pc|d7|pg|| nt|granguru: S arriving fast to acomplish his promess|pg|| nt|pelu: I like Ss bidding here|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|pelu: now NS in 4@S in OR??????|pg|| nt|roswolf: optimism gone mad|pg|| nt|hajru: That must be a very rare misunderstanding from NS|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s4|nt|roswolf: her the ladies sit south and east|pg|| pc|s7|pg|| nt|roswolf: sandra is a very competent decarer and mis guessing is not her forte|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: no|pg|| nt|hajru: Does anybody know what carding EW play?|pg|| nt|hajru: They have been playing as a pair for at least 30 years|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|granguru: declarer is now stacked in dummy|pg|| nt|riccho: anyone knows the link to see the other table as well?|pg|| nt|pelu: good news for NS in OR: they are nv and no X :)|pg|| pc|h3|nt|roswolf: presumably semi-natural but minimum|pg|| nt|granguru: her sorry*|pg|| nt|hajru: No, it does work, Arno. |pg|| pc|s2|pc|d4|pg|| pc|cA|nt|riccho: no @d finesse anymore|pg|| pc|c4|nt|granguru: good point|pg|| pc|h4|pc|c2|pg|| nt|roswolf: yes she will paly a heart up|pg|| pc|cK|nt|hajru: Other table on the top right of the screen|pg|| nt|arno11: yes if you do it immediately but not after @S Ace|pg|| pc|sT|nt|riccho: iots still possible but would risk the contract|pg|| pc|h6|nt|teckh: jeg kan være med, jeg følger helness sÃ¥ langt det er mulig:)|pg|| nt|djneill: dummy-lock|pg|| pc|c3|pg|| nt|roswolf: whoops i am wrong:(|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Welcome back to Tarjei|pg|| nt|spooky: if West had @HA and not the J, she didn't need the @Cs|pg|| nt|teckh: hi all|pg|| nt|roswolf: west makes 2 trump tricks i think|pg|| pc|s6|nt|riccho: it WAS still ... :)|pg|| pc|d2|pc|s5|nt|spooky: Hi|pg|| nt|granguru: In Europe it is the common practice to do so|pg|| pc|s3|pg|| nt|roswolf: looks like a push|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|Walddk4: Ignore his Norwegian above :)|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s8|nt|jaapfr: if he says it will be afterwards|pg|| pc|dQ|pg|| pc|c6|pc|h8|pc|d3|pc|c5|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s9|pc|dA|nt|roswolf: yup|pg|| nt|granguru: claim time ...next|pg|| pc|h5|pg|| mc|9|nt|jbgood: seems as if S may get her nine|pg|| pg|| qx|o4|st||md|2SK3HJT954DKQ4CK75,SJ9642H863D76CQ93,SA85HK72DJT2CAJT4,SQT7HAQDA9853C862|sv|b|nt|hawe45: Copenhague - mais je suis paysan, né en Jutland (la presq´île)|pg|| nt|odysseus69: miscount- sorry|pg|| nt|hawe45: Sorry|pg|| nt|rv: @d ruff could scuttle this 4@h|pg|| mb|p|nt|Walddk2: How about 3NT?|pg|| nt|hawe45: Seems that the @D-ruff is very important here|pg|| mb|1C!|mb|1D|mb|1S!|mb|p|mb|1N|nt|rv: same @d lead against 3n?|pg|| mb|p|nt|odysseus69: doomed by diamond ruff but 4H looks normal|pg|| nt|hawe45: 3 NT might be an option also|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: Spade lead also good enough against 3NT|pg|| nt|hawe45: It was...|pg|| nt|rv: on @d lead only 8 tricks in 3n as well rite?|pg|| nt|odysseus69: that looks doomed on diamond lead|pg|| pc|d5|nt|Walddk2: Cronier can't fail here|pg|| nt|mareczek: NS play "inverted majors" after 1@d overcall|pg|| nt|mareczek: dbl shows both majors, 1@h spades, 1@s hearts|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d7|pc|d2|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|hQ|pg|| nt|rv: interesting line of play, @d won by king, @c to 10 and now 2nd @d, East should rise with @DA to prevent strip squeeze|pg|| nt|rv: academic discussion though|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d6|pc|dT|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dQ|pc|s2|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h6|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| pc|d9|pc|c5|pc|s4|pc|c4|pg|| pc|d8|pc|h5|pc|s6|pc|cT|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c4|st||md|2SK3HJT954DKQ4CK75,SJ9642H863D76CQ93,SA85HK72DJT2CAJT4,SQT7HAQDA9853C862|sv|b|nt|roswolf: no diamond switch by defence|pg|| nt|roswolf: i would expect both these teams to qualify for the ko rounds|pg|| nt|hedyg: K&R (KQ32 KQJ KQ4 J96) = 14.60 |pg|| nt|hedyg: quite a downgrade!|pg|| nt|roswolf: this might be feisty|pg|| nt|hajru: First pick for Zimmerman, when EW went down in 1NTx in the other room.|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: http://b.poznan2011.pl/mxt/br.html|pg|| nt|hajru: Tie break: if tied after 28 boards, play 4 extra, if still tied, play another 4, if still tied, play 1 board at the time until there is a difference|pg|| nt|riccho: finland still 6 Imps (summed up) in front|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: now it is 30-24 for Finland|pg|| nt|roswolf: 5 or so imps to the french|pg|| mb|p|nt|roswolf: more imps to the mythological creatures of the woods|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg|| nt|arno11: http://www.worldbridge.org/people/person.asp?qryid=16359 west|pg|| mb|1C|nt|hedyg: 2@H= weak 2 suiter|pg|| mb|1D|nt|roswolf: muilderg strikes again|pg|| nt|granguru: In America it is N and E for men|pg|| nt|roswolf: now this has potential for a swing|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: http://b.poznan2011.pl/mxt/swrunda5.html|pg|| nt|granguru: 2@C for majors|pg|| nt|roswolf: majors oor multi-landy something no doubt|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: http://b.poznan2011.pl/mxt/swleaderb.html|pg|| mb|1H|nt|djneill: ok so South sees 14 HCP opposite 15-17, and shortness in hearts - East having most of the opposing honors, South knows there is a minor slam if North has a fit|pg|| nt|granguru: landy, garozzo, woolsey, multilandy or something|pg|| nt|roswolf: west has an interesting problem -how high to bid?|pg|| nt|roswolf: probably worth a double!?|pg|| nt|granguru: 5@H|pg|| nt|roswolf: yes the real man's bid:)|pg|| nt|hajru: Weak NT by north, probably all pass|pg|| mb|p|nt|roswolf: good lead|pg|| nt|granguru: no more blackwood, redwood, voidwood, roman KCB, etc..|pg|| nt|djneill: I still think South should rebid 4@c, get a fit, and bid 6|pg|| nt|roswolf: pass is the mouse's bid|pg|| nt|jaapfr: and makes|pg|| nt|arno11: East http://www.worldbridge.org/people/person.asp?qryid=4813|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: http://b.poznan2011.pl/mxt/r32runda1.html|pg|| mb|2H|nt|roswolf: north risks a large penalty|pg|| mb|p|nt|hedyg: we dont know if 2@H could be with @s and 2@s would be p/c then|pg|| nt|roswolf: but escapes with a scratch|pg|| nt|roswolf: the light shines on the lady|pg|| nt|psyck: 4@h will be interesting|pg|| nt|blum1956: 4@h looks natural but fails after a diamond lead or switch|pg|| mb|4H|nt|granguru: 4@H should have been the minimum...problem is that it might lead to a wrong lead|pg|| nt|roswolf: does that agree @C|pg|| nt|roswolf: LOOKS LIKE IT DOES|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|roswolf: this auction will peter out in some partscore -2@H!?|pg|| nt|teckh: I thinkk N is worth one more|pg|| nt|arno11: auction hard to believe|pg|| nt|riccho: maybe X showed some WK NT Hand? |pg|| nt|hajru: Yes.|pg|| mb|p|nt|Walddk4: Operator, could you please enter scores on 21 and 22 manually?|pg|| nt|roswolf: well i would bid game on this sequence but i suppose north is entitled to overbid after the first few bds|pg|| nt|hedyg: overtake and play J@H|pg|| nt|roswolf: 2@S LOOKED NATURAL AND CONSTRUCTIVE|pg|| nt|roswolf: last train!?|pg|| pc|d7|nt|spooky: looks like a walsh aucon, East not bidding her 4crd @S|pg|| nt|hedyg: it all depends on their agreements i would think?|pg|| nt|jbgood: this will be a quick downer with the di ruff|pg|| nt|hajru: That should be 1 off after this lead|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dA|nt|spooky: auction*|pg|| nt|roswolf: looks like 6@C now|pg|| nt|psyck: correct play in majors will only lose 1 trick in them & they could have made an o/t in 4@h if they got there|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: W doesn't know what's going on?|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: !!!|pg|| pc|dQ|pg|| nt|roswolf: 5@C probably showed no spade control|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: http://b.poznan2011.pl/mxt/swrunda5.html|pg|| nt|roswolf: south might chicken out with some justification|pg|| nt|djneill: the @dT, or @sT would make a big difference here for N-S|pg|| nt|roswolf: fair point|pg|| nt|psyck: 1@h was 3 or less @h i guess...2@c=who knows...|pg|| pc|d9|nt|Walddk4: If you don't know the codes, give me contract, declarer and number of tricks and I will give you the codes|pg|| pc|dK|nt|roswolf: this needs a good guesser|pg|| nt|djneill: beautiful|pg|| pc|d6|nt|roswolf: this is a cakewalk|pg|| nt|roswolf: a deal to ponder in the post mortem|pg|| nt|roswolf: the play isnt that straightforward either but this will make i bet|pg|| nt|granguru: backward finesse in @D permits not to lose a @D trick|pg|| pc|dT|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Thank you|pg|| nt|Walddk4: By the way, N-S are from France (flags)|pg|| nt|spooky: with @CKJ in south declarer shouldn't have any problems|pg|| nt|roswolf: this layout is far too kind|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: pokerface of E|pg|| nt|psyck: actially, % play in @s is low to J & then Q...so would lose 2@s tricks, so will have to get @d right|pg|| nt|jbgood: even withot the ruff S would have to find the club queen to make 10|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|roswolf: yes the norsemen (and women) have sprung into a big lead|pg|| nt|roswolf: this contract is pretty unlucky|pg|| pc|h6|nt|hedyg: personally i play that 2@h can be weak with ANY suit, incl @s|pg|| nt|roswolf: yes and declarer will play west for the long@D|pg|| nt|granguru: E would have led @SK with @SQ(10)|pg|| nt|roswolf: from the bidding|pg|| pc|h2|nt|teckh: will she go for split A,K@d |pg|| pc|hA|pg|| pc|d8|nt|roswolf: BTW in this sequence i would have played a double by west as PENALTY|pg|| nt|roswolf: suggest a heart wanted?|pg|| pc|d4|nt|teckh: He now see KQ, and A@s will materialize, then W has noe Q@H|pg|| nt|jaapfr: discarding not @C in N is confusing a bit|pg|| nt|roswolf: err dont think so|pg|| pc|h3|nt|blum1956: And the declarer still needs the @c guess to come to down 1|pg|| pc|dJ|pg|| nt|teckh: probably|pg|| nt|roswolf: fair points|pg|| nt|hedyg: for sure|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s5|pc|sQ|nt|hedyg: no|pg|| nt|roswolf: my standing assumption when opps intervene over weak 2 suited bids is that this is a misfit hand and bid appropriately i.e DONT bid|pg|| pc|sK|pg|| nt|roswolf: find the lady is the perennial problem|pg|| nt|roswolf: if so then west was very wet|pg|| nt|hedyg: E did not underruff!|pg|| nt|hedyg: Michal?|pg|| nt|hedyg: we have lost our operator :(|pg|| nt|hedyg: np|pg|| nt|roswolf: e/w in the other room missed their 5-5 @H fit|pg|| pc|s3|nt|roswolf: 5-4|pg|| pc|s4|nt|granguru: best line could be to endplay E with the second @D|pg|| pc|sA|nt|arno11: contract gets what it deserved|pg|| pc|s7|pg|| nt|psyck: I'm told 1@h showed @h fit, so 2@c may have been meant as some range enquiry|pg|| pc|s8|nt|hajru: That is a good return|pg|| nt|jaapfr: agree|pg|| nt|riccho: this worldbridge.org person seek is nothing for a german datenschutz-believer :) even MY personal data is there :)|pg|| pc|sT|nt|roswolf: first trump won with the Q|pg|| pc|h4|nt|roswolf: yup now some clouds pour over the hrizon|pg|| nt|roswolf: horizon|pg|| nt|jbgood: heart king was surely the only chance...|pg|| nt|blum1956: now no guess needed|pg|| pc|s9|pg|| nt|roswolf: the lady has been found|pg|| nt|roswolf: wd|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h8|nt|roswolf: a routine -2|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: http://b.poznan2011.pl/mxt/swleaderb.html|pg|| pc|h7|nt|spooky: still not going down.. the @C's are to friendly|pg|| nt|teckh: she needed KJ@c in front:)|pg|| nt|roswolf: but the overtricks have gone|pg|| nt|spooky: she played for @D A or K rightsided, or @D 3-3, looks reasonable|pg|| nt|roswolf: to me playing on clubs first seemed best|pg|| pc|hQ|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o5|st||md|3SQ875HKJT542DC642,SKT6HQ9876DKQ94C9,SJ42HA3DA875CAK83,SA93HDJT632CQJT75|sv|n|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|odysseus69: seems like cards running unfiendly for N/S|pg|| mb|2D|nt|Walddk2: Nasty trump break in 4@H|pg|| mb|p|nt|Walddk2: 4@H is doubled next door|pg|| mb|2H|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cQ|nt|Walddk2: If 3@H is invitational I think I would risk a double|pg|| nt|Walddk2: I have a surprise for declarer|pg|| nt|hawe45: I repeat: I you do´nt - now and the - write up 790, 800 and such results for the opponents, you haven´t riske enough!|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c9|nt|hawe45: Impossible to RISK a double here - DOUBLE = NO RISK|pg|| pc|cA|pg|| pc|hA|nt|odysseus69: East might have considered 2NT at colours over 2H - this might have led to a double of 4H by West|pg|| pc|c5|nt|Walddk2: Assuming that 3@H was invitational. Some play it as forcing|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h6|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|c4|pc|d4|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d2|pc|h4|pc|d9|pg|| pc|c6|nt|Walddk2: East in the other room bid a direct 2NT|pg|| nt|Walddk2: 1NT 2NT|pg|| nt|vugraphplE: 3H was invitational bid.|pg|| nt|Walddk2: The defence missed a trick when they opened the spade suit|pg|| pc|s6|pc|cK|pc|c7|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d6|pc|h5|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sT|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pg|| nt|odysseus69: he knows pd has spade ace so sure 2 down by ruffing club|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|hT|pc|hQ|pc|c3|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d7|pc|dT|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h8|pc|h3|pc|cT|pg|| mc|8|nt|odysseus69: still 2 down |pg|| pg|| qx|c5|st||md|3SQ875HKJT542DC642,SKT6HQ9876DKQ94C9,SJ42HA3DA875CAK83,SA93HDJT632CQJT75|sv|n|nt|roswolf: i think only 10 tricks|pg|| nt|granguru: Katarzina Dufrat is a pretty young polish girl who started on 2009|pg|| nt|roswolf: a hard earned 3 imps|pg|| nt|hajru: I can hardly imagine that she took the first @h with the A|pg|| nt|pelu: 1Nt - 2NT?|pg|| nt|roswolf: some potential here for disaster|pg|| mb|1N|nt|roswolf: more meat on this hand|pg|| nt|jbgood: my guess is that S really did play the heart king |pg|| mb|2N|an|.|nt|roswolf: -200 is quite a big scratch|pg|| nt|roswolf: 3NT is likely to be bid here|pg|| nt|jaapfr: 3nt makes here 4@H a tad more challenging to make|pg|| nt|hajru: So, instead of scoring +100 in 1@c!, south scores -100 in 2@c|pg|| nt|arno11: shld have been -2 |pg|| nt|riccho: here the just-intime-scores http://b.poznan2011.pl/mxt/r32runda1.html|pg|| nt|roswolf: any 2 suiter or just the Minors|pg|| nt|hajru: Wow, I knew Carla likes to bid but had not expected 2N from her|pg|| nt|roswolf: ?|pg|| nt|pelu: 3 or 4@h|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg|| mb|3D|an|.|nt|djneill: hot stuff, West ducked that smoothly|pg|| nt|hajru: But first, EW are in trouble after their weak NT|pg|| nt|jaapfr: mb even to challenging (needs opps to help)|pg|| nt|blum1956: 4@h will be down 1 or 2|pg|| nt|roswolf: the dutch had red meat for breakfast it seems|pg|| nt|hajru: I don't know what they are playing, EW are not a regular pair and I've never played against them|pg|| mb|4D|nt|hedyg: 200 is always painful|pg|| nt|arno11: as they could not have made anything not a big problem for NS|pg|| nt|roswolf: on bd 3 the dutch in the other room drifted -4 in 4@S|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|jaapfr: 2@C X no disaster EW|pg|| mb|4H|nt|roswolf: i would open a strong NT as well|pg|| nt|hedyg: 2@D=majors|pg|| nt|granguru: leb|pg|| mb|d|nt|roswolf: lebensohl|pg|| nt|jaapfr: pass|pg|| mb|p|nt|roswolf: brian joins in with an off centre 1nt|pg|| nt|jaapfr: down 1 i think so big win EW|pg|| nt|hajru: Yes, pass by south and lead a small club. |pg|| nt|roswolf: the axe falls|pg|| mb|p|nt|hajru: This is interesting: when I look up my name in worldbridge.org, I find somebody with my name|pg|| nt|hajru: and playernumber, who participated in an event back in 1997. However, I'm sure it wasn't me, it was|pg|| nt|riccho: but ist not your data than? |pg|| nt|hajru: my brother|pg|| mb|p|nt|spooky: I expect Tor to bid 4@S now|pg|| nt|roswolf: this should be finis|pg|| nt|teckh: that E was too much|pg|| nt|roswolf: i suspect tor knows gunn's style|pg|| nt|roswolf: but will east pass?|pg|| pc|dK|nt|hajru: Yes, looks like 7 tricks to EW for a 10 imp gain|pg|| nt|jaapfr: difficult to lead from QTx|pg|| nt|pelu: 4@D down 1 - but fine investment|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: http://b.poznan2011.pl/mxt/frunda1.html|pg|| pc|dA|nt|roswolf: the @D10 is priceless here|pg|| nt|roswolf: :)|pg|| nt|hedyg: i hate to think what would happened if W passed 2@H|pg|| pc|dT|nt|spooky: You were right :)|pg|| nt|riccho: probably they guessed the fuel name from the list (someone with guessing capabilities like me...) |pg|| nt|jbgood: N didnt bid 4@h - perhaps S should hear the alarm clocks ?|pg|| pc|c6|pg|| nt|spooky: 3@S is down already...|pg|| nt|granguru: michal nowosadzki has also started on 2009|pg|| pc|s2|nt|teckh: he will play for club and eventually it will make with the spade and blockage|pg|| nt|roswolf: he needs at least 1 spade trick|pg|| nt|roswolf: even if the clubs came in|pg|| nt|roswolf: no he doesnt - icant count early in the morning:)|pg|| nt|teckh: Tor knows he has a single spade in front and 3 on his back|pg|| pc|sA|nt|riccho: the 4@s from W sounds like that W didnt understand it either|pg|| nt|arno11: I see your point:)|pg|| pc|s5|nt|riccho: full|pg|| nt|hajru: I'm not sure if I understand the 2s! bid|pg|| pc|s6|pg|| nt|hedyg: i think EW would make 8 tricks on best defense|pg|| nt|pelu: JOn: 3@D could be a 5 card suit, so N cant bid 4@H |pg|| nt|blum1956: yes as now EW will collect 200 to 500, more probably 200 after this start|pg|| pc|d2|nt|hedyg: running scores and results : http://b.poznan2011.pl/mxt/swrunda3.html|pg|| nt|jaapfr: 1@S2@H2@D and 1 @C loser not to avoid specs|pg|| nt|jbgood: with a little more help this will not be expensive though - was the @s ace mandatory?|pg|| pc|h2|nt|roswolf: really?|pg|| pc|d4|nt|roswolf: that looked odd|pg|| nt|granguru: http://www.msc.com.pl/cezar1/index.php?s=&mycl=0&tmt=5&p=21&r=4662&s_r=0&s_nz=nowosadzki&s_off=0|pg|| nt|jaapfr: for the optimists who think 2@C can or could be made|pg|| pc|d5|pg|| pc|s7|nt|pelu: B¤ NS in 3Nt - also down after @D lead|pg|| nt|pelu: B4|pg|| nt|jbgood: Peter - N might bid wit a good fit. that was my point...|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|s9|pg|| pc|c9|nt|hajru: This gets rid of the @c loser but creates a @h loser|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c4|pg|| nt|pelu: S dont need "good" fit - but @Hs 2-2|pg|| nt|pelu: 3-2|pg|| nt|jbgood: very unlikely after the bidding|pg|| nt|pelu: in OR Benedicte C pass over 1NT - the 2Nt was a close call|pg|| nt|hajru: Even with the @h 3-2, he still has to play the spade for 2 losers, which is hard if E ducks the first round|pg|| nt|blum1956: South still may expect that West has only 4 hearts|pg|| nt|jbgood: yes - it was a brave move by Arnolds|pg|| nt|pelu: so 4@h - no x in OR|pg|| nt|jbgood: if hearts are 4-1 E would have gotten a spade ruff long ago|pg|| nt|roswolf: this i think could well end up -2|pg|| nt|blum1956: If hearts are 4-1 this is an easy win|pg|| nt|roswolf: no not with this declarer|pg|| nt|blum1956: no more than -1 whatever South does|pg|| nt|pelu: no still hard work - and a possible @S-ruff as Jon said|pg|| nt|blum1956: no more no less|pg|| nt|roswolf: i am just glad i am not playing it:):(|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s3|nt|pelu: @SA cost a trick|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sT|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d3|pc|h5|pc|d9|pg|| nt|djneill: now clubs blocked|pg|| nt|roswolf: after another heart|pg|| nt|jaapfr: defense gave this board away|pg|| nt|jaapfr: @SA @DJ @CA @D and made|pg|| nt|jaapfr: NS not really on track the first boards|pg|| nt|blum1956: now she knows everything|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|hajru: I don't think that anybody is to blame for the bidding.|pg|| nt|jaapfr: agree|pg|| nt|roswolf: the final is played over 3 sets of 16 boards|pg|| pc|h6|nt|jaapfr: NS could also have ended in a $@H-1|pg|| pc|hA|pc|c7|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d6|pc|h4|pc|dQ|pg|| nt|roswolf: 9 tricks|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o6|st||md|4SAJ832HAT65DJ7CQT,S6HKQ732D8543C754,S9754H8DAQ62CAKJ6,SKQTHJ94DKT9C9832|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|nt|odysseus69: 6 spades close but biddable?|pg|| nt|Walddk2: No|pg|| nt|hawe45: Very bad bidding might bring you in 6 @S, yes|pg|| nt|Walddk2: It's a terrible slam on a diamond lead for example|pg|| mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|hawe45: The problem with the North hand - I have seen better 4-card-support for partners suit|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d2|pc|dK|pc|d7|pg|| nt|odysseus69: in this age of key card people dont bid slams missing a key card and the trump queen|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h8|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|s4|pc|sT|pg|| pc|s2|pc|c4|pc|s9|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s3|pc|d3|pc|s5|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c6|st||md|4SAJ832HAT65DJ7CQT,S6HKQ732D8543C754,S9754H8DAQ62CAKJ6,SKQTHJ94DKT9C9832|sv|e|nt|granguru: http://www.msc.com.pl/cezar1/index.php?s=&mycl=0&tmt=5&p=21&r=4662&s_r=0&s_nz=nowosadzki&s_off=0|pg|| nt|roswolf: that was a slam that might easily be bid in the other room|pg|| nt|jaapfr: 4|pg|| nt|riccho: but 2@d wasnt probably natural either|pg|| mb|p|nt|djneill: the 1NT call won the board, as the other room overcalled 2@d, and could not reopen safely over 2@h - East too was too flat|pg|| nt|arno11: as N could not have overcalled 2@D the entire auction was wrong|pg|| mb|1S|nt|spooky: Defence must have slipped...|pg|| nt|hajru: Another part score, 3 passes, 1NT by north, all pass or something like|pg|| nt|hajru: that|pg|| nt|riccho: ahh a pass was forgotten :) |pg|| mb|p|nt|roswolf: -4 was the result|pg|| nt|granguru: http://www.msc.com.pl/cezar1/index.php?s=&mycl=0&tmt=5&p=21&r=4662&s_r=0&s_nz=nowosadzki&s_off=0|pg|| nt|granguru: he and she|pg|| nt|roswolf: looks a routine 3nt|pg|| nt|hajru: Yes, I guess it was 1S-2D;2S-4S all pass|pg|| nt|riccho: that explains it: |pg|| nt|arno11: probably as before when S declared 2@C after a 1@C opening, might have been 1@D X-p-2@C |pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: http://b.poznan2011.pl/mxt/r16runda1.|pg|| nt|blum1956: time to relax|pg|| mb|2N|an|.|nt|roswolf: n/s must avoid getting too high|pg|| mb|p|nt|hedyg: lol|pg|| nt|granguru: 6@C should be the final point...|pg|| mb|3C|nt|roswolf: 1nt?|pg|| nt|roswolf: denying 3 hearts|pg|| nt|jaapfr: and 5 or 6 losers|pg|| nt|roswolf: no doubt a bergen raise|pg|| nt|roswolf: 3@C= minimum!?|pg|| nt|blum1956: even 6 is makeable probably|pg|| mb|p|nt|spooky: @C back, @SK @C, @DQ @CQ @D away?|pg|| nt|hajru: east leads a diamond, north plays on clubs for about 7 tricks|pg|| nt|jaapfr: next board pls:)|pg|| mb|4C|nt|roswolf: aaahhh|pg|| mb|p|nt|roswolf: the strength of vul opening bids is getting weaker all the time|pg|| nt|hajru: Here we seem to have a strong club from north, |pg|| mb|4H|nt|roswolf: quiet hand|pg|| nt|roswolf: e/w playing support doubles|pg|| mb|p|nt|teckh: i still dont like to lead from J|pg|| nt|hedyg: well he does have extra length.......|pg|| nt|granguru: hard to get there after north showed 5-5 in mjaors|pg|| nt|granguru: majors*|pg|| nt|roswolf: 2nt may be right objectively but 3nt would put n/s under pressure in the play|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: http://b.poznan2011.pl/mxt/swrunda5.html|pg|| nt|riccho: team lavazza is struggling: 35 Imps behind with 12 to play|pg|| mb|4S|nt|spooky: South bid @C and played @H4...|pg|| mb|p|nt|roswolf: n/s brushed it aside easily enough|pg|| nt|arno11: at least they picked their opponent themselves|pg|| nt|hajru: Operator: did they explan 2@d|pg|| nt|riccho: 2@d probybly some BAL wothout 4cM and 10+ or so|pg|| mb|p|nt|roswolf: nor me|pg|| nt|Walddk4: Please adjust 24 to 10 tricks|pg|| nt|hedyg: and he only promises 10-15 anyhow|pg|| mb|p|nt|Walddk4: 4SS=|pg|| nt|hajru: I'm not sure if I can follow Cronier there. She leads the @h ace, gets a positive signal and switches?|pg|| nt|jaapfr: udca?|pg|| nt|arno11: bal? and then N bids 4@C?|pg|| nt|eamongall: got the favourable but relatively normal lead |pg|| pc|d4|nt|roswolf: east might well play north for short diamonds here|pg|| nt|blum1956: Take the diamond lead, spade to the King and Ace, two heart ruffs, 4 clubs and finally a trump|pg|| nt|hajru: So, who do you think underbid on this hand?|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: http://b.poznan2011.pl/mxt/frunda1.html|pg|| nt|blum1956: but of course in 4@s the plan may differ|pg|| pc|dA|nt|riccho: I guessed before the 4@c bid :) |pg|| nt|hajru: I have no idea why you'd call the S hand balanced in a strong club context|pg|| nt|arno11: as NS are playing a kind of polish club, the bid was either 1. 2@C or 2. it showed @C|pg|| pc|d9|nt|granguru: 6@H is also possible to win..|pg|| nt|roswolf: well they have reached the slam|pg|| nt|granguru: I think...|pg|| nt|roswolf: need to take a good view of the spade suit|pg|| nt|granguru: interesting that W can only overruff @s with @HK|pg|| nt|riccho: maybe S wanted to emphasize the "good" @d-suit?|pg|| nt|riccho: 2@d = @c sounds a bit funny|pg|| nt|riccho: anyway: the contract is not very convincing, but successful|pg|| nt|hajru: I think we can only guess at this stage|pg|| nt|arno11: if North takes the @C finesse we will come to 12 tricks via 4@C 4@D 3@H and the @S Ace|pg|| pc|d7|pg|| nt|granguru: a lucky situation|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h9|pc|hA|nt|roswolf: hmm west made an interesting play|pg|| nt|hajru: Why would you play the 7 from Q765 then?|pg|| pc|h2|pg|| nt|riccho: say: probably convincing; the @c-finesse is not nadatory|pg|| nt|roswolf: probably north - south didnt know about the @D control|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h3|nt|granguru: noooo|pg|| nt|riccho: mandatory|pg|| pc|s4|nt|roswolf: not going well|pg|| pc|h4|pg|| nt|granguru: W was afraid to duck @c because of @S danger|pg|| nt|djneill: North can't imagine South has the @hA and did not raise to 2@s with 3 spades|pg|| nt|roswolf: hmmm - idee fixee|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c8|nt|roswolf: since west must have the spade ace for his opening - declarer is not in any danger|pg|| nt|roswolf: ahhhh the truth|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|Walddk4: Welcome to Peter Marstrander|pg|| nt|granguru: http://www.msc.com.pl/cezar1/index.php?s=&mycl=0&tmt=5&p=21&r=12450&s_r=0&s_nz=Dufrat&s_off=0|pg|| nt|granguru: N expects @SAJx in west |pg|| pc|c4|pg|| nt|spooky: declarer doesn't have enough tricks..|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h7|nt|roswolf: nice discard from north|pg|| nt|roswolf: hmm he will be disappointed then|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: http://b.poznan2011.pl/mxt/swrunda5.html|pg|| nt|arno11: so a good bd for NS|pg|| pc|s5|nt|vugraphpl8: http://b.poznan2011.pl/mxt/swleaderb.html|pg|| nt|roswolf: i can 7 tricks but not 8|pg|| nt|roswolf: see|pg|| pc|hJ|pg|| nt|hajru: I'm fairly certain they'll bid it at the other table, with 12 opposite 20|pg|| nt|riccho: difficult to avoid slam here|pg|| pc|cJ|nt|vugraphpl8: http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg|| nt|hajru: Anyway, it just changes the order of the tricks a bit|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: http://b.poznan2011.pl/mxt/br.html|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cT|nt|granguru: @h10 best play|pg|| nt|roswolf: playing on @D SHOULD BE OK FOR -1|pg|| pc|c5|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|dJ|nt|hedyg: he official website is : http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg|| pc|c7|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c9|nt|roswolf: whoops not continuing the good work|pg|| nt|granguru: better|pg|| pc|hT|pc|s6|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|s2|pg|| pc|sA|nt|spooky: oops indeed|pg|| pc|d5|nt|roswolf: another contract slips through|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sT|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o7|st||md|1SKT8H83DJT96CAJ75,S9HKJT7654D2C9864,SAQ53HQ92DQ7543CT,SJ7642HADAK8CKQ32|sv|b|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|rv: @c ruff, @s underlead for another ruff?|pg|| nt|odysseus69: Zimmermann definitely not chicken|pg|| nt|Walddk2: 4@H is a bit of a stretch|pg|| nt|Walddk2: But Cronier would likely have raised 3|pg|| nt|hawe45: I will not describe the 4 @H-opening as brave - I better NOT describe it|pg|| nt|odysseus69: 4H bid saved a little time|pg|| pc|sA|nt|rv: 4@h is a bit of confident man, Zimmermann is on a roll with his new team of super-stars in Open event|pg|| nt|rv: bid of|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s8|pc|s9|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s4|pc|sK|pc|h4|pg|| nt|rv: making now?|pg|| nt|Walddk2: why not|pg|| nt|rv: ruff out @s using @HA and @DA entries|pg|| nt|odysseus69: best defence was diamond switch|pg|| nt|rv: maybe Maas should have followed Garozzo's tip, always lead a singleton:)|pg|| pc|h5|nt|odysseus69: but declarer was still ok|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|h3|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sT|pc|h6|pc|s5|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h9|pc|c2|pc|h8|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|d8|pc|c5|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cK|nt|rv: Zimmermann may open again with similar hand, his confidence must be more after this deal:)|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c4|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c7|st||md|1SKT8H83DJT96CAJ75,S9HKJT7654D2C9864,SAQ53HQ92DQ7543CT,SJ7642HADAK8CKQ32|sv|b|nt|roswolf: now this could be fun|pg|| nt|spooky: 30-3 already for team Brogeland..|pg|| nt|pbmarstr: Hi|pg|| nt|granguru: sorry I was keeping the girl for myself....|pg|| nt|roswolf: not much here|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: fast play|pg|| nt|hajru: That is a good line of play, partner won't be worried about missing slam|pg|| mb|p|mb|3H|nt|roswolf: hi peter|pg|| mb|p|nt|roswolf: another bits and pieces bd|pg|| nt|hajru: And another 1NT contract :)|pg|| nt|riccho: probably claimed for 12 tricks|pg|| mb|4H|nt|teckh: will they try for game in spade or clubs|pg|| nt|roswolf: a possible slam here but not one you would wish to be in:)|pg|| nt|roswolf: sandra could have a punt here|pg|| nt|teckh: S thinks she know where N singleton is|pg|| nt|spooky: this 6@S is making|pg|| nt|roswolf: finis|pg|| nt|hajru: No, Benedicte spoils it.|pg|| mb|p|nt|roswolf: the second singleton is more relevant|pg|| nt|hajru: 12 tricks, I guess|pg|| nt|hajru: And 1 imp can be important here.|pg|| mb|p|nt|roswolf: clubs is my guess|pg|| nt|roswolf: an educated try|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: now it is 33-24 for finland|pg|| nt|eamongall: there appears to be only 9 tricks in @Ss but doubt @Ss will ever be trumps at this tage |pg|| mb|p|nt|jaapfr: for herself:)|pg|| nt|eamongall: stage|pg|| nt|eamongall: maybe Hanlon will bid them now |pg|| nt|roswolf: this seems pretty normal|pg|| pc|cT|nt|granguru: buy willing to share with you nice people|pg|| nt|jaapfr: but the @SJ is golden|pg|| nt|psyck: if EW get to 4@s now, @d's need to be attacked at the earliest|pg|| pc|cK|nt|roswolf: 5 of a minor here - i trust no slam adventure|pg|| nt|pbmarstr: Thank you. It is always nice to share|pg|| nt|psyck: Which will not be difficult with that dummy|pg|| nt|eamongall: yes Krishna you are very right ... but I doubt they can reach 4@S here |pg|| pc|cA|nt|psyck: :)|pg|| pc|c6|pg|| nt|djneill: pretty disappointing here, for East, but at least the @dK is onside, and @c are 3-3|pg|| nt|jaapfr: even -1 is a push|pg|| nt|jaapfr: and mb mb she makes|pg|| pc|dJ|nt|teckh: she has to play for the lone KJ in heart|pg|| pc|d2|nt|spooky: EW could sacrifice in 7@C here, impossible to find tho|pg|| pc|d3|nt|roswolf: yup brian co-operates with a cue - best bid hand material:)|pg|| pc|dA|pg|| nt|roswolf: nice judgment by Gunn|pg|| nt|roswolf: great judgment by north|pg|| nt|psyck: couple of o/t's on major lead|pg|| pc|hA|nt|roswolf: no other chance but to hope the jearts set up|pg|| nt|hajru: 4@s makes, so a good decision by Elsinen|pg|| pc|h3|nt|roswolf: east - the ladies siyt south and east|pg|| nt|roswolf: hearts|pg|| nt|roswolf: the heart weakness is clearly pinpointed|pg|| nt|arno11: same 6N reached at the other table on a spade lead his @S intermediates are so good that N will not need the @C suit and also make 6NT|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h2|pg|| nt|roswolf: will need some flair from Tor but as a world champion i expect it|pg|| nt|jaapfr: @H7|pg|| pc|dK|nt|vugraphpl8: http://b.poznan2011.pl/mxt/r32runda1.html|pg|| pc|d6|pc|s9|pc|d4|pg|| nt|teckh: he know that clubs are with S, and then its hust to be careful|pg|| nt|granguru: should make 1@S 2@D 2@H 2@c|pg|| nt|jbgood: di return normal?|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s8|nt|hedyg: time for coffee?|pg|| nt|psyck: aah, S found a 2@d bid last deal other room to fetch 11 imps|pg|| nt|roswolf: nope|pg|| pc|h5|pc|s3|pg|| nt|roswolf: yup -like the "just"|pg|| nt|hajru: Looks as if north couldn't read the @h 5|pg|| nt|jaapfr: i love this swindle|pg|| pc|hK|nt|vugraphpl8: W is disappointed|pg|| pc|h9|pc|s4|nt|granguru: so it conducts to the corresponding lead|pg|| pc|h8|pg|| pc|c4|nt|roswolf: all over now|pg|| nt|teckh: we would have loved to see it:)|pg|| nt|spooky: A quite lucky make tho|pg|| pc|d5|nt|roswolf: that might not be good enough|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c5|pg|| nt|granguru: claim time....next|pg|| nt|hajru: That is a potential pick up for the dutch|pg|| mc|10|nt|roswolf: declarer gets endplayed|pg|| pg|| qx|o8|st||md|2SK874HA532DA82CT2,SAJT53HKJDT76CAK7,SQ92HQ864DQ953CQ5,S6HT97DKJ4CJ98643|sv|o|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|rv: 1n or 1@s with West hand?|pg|| nt|Walddk2: yes|pg|| nt|Walddk2: depends where in the world you are|pg|| nt|Walddk2: They don't open 1NT with a 5-card major in France|pg|| mb|2C|mb|p|nt|rv: this could go swish|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|d5|nt|Walddk2: There is no defence against 3NT but it's a lucky make|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dA|pc|d6|pg|| nt|hawe45: 3 NT in East is down|pg|| pc|hA|pc|hJ|pc|h6|pc|h7|pg|| nt|mareczek: there is a defence|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Maybe also in West|pg|| nt|Walddk2: heart lead, spade switch, then back to hearts|pg|| nt|rv: @c partial is par contract single dummy|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|h9|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c3|pc|c2|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cQ|pc|c4|pc|cT|pg|| nt|mareczek: declarer can win with @sA and play a @d immediately|pg|| mc|11|nt|mareczek: if guess - 6@c tricks + 1 in each suit|pg|| pg|| qx|c8|st||md|2SK874HA532DA82CT2,SAJT53HKJDT76CAK7,SQ92HQ864DQ953CQ5,S6HT97DKJ4CJ98643|sv|o|nt|pbmarstr: This is the fast lane I believe|pg|| nt|roswolf: and now a freak|pg|| nt|djneill: good prevent defense, gave declarer every chance to go wrong|pg|| nt|roswolf: indeed|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|nt|teckh: 4@c over 3@h here?|pg|| nt|djneill: 6@d making other table wow|pg|| nt|roswolf: good result for goldcat in the other room|pg|| nt|jaapfr: ppp?|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg|| nt|jaapfr: 1@H-p-?|pg|| nt|blum1956: very strange diamond return - does the @c10 lead not inform South that West has at least three clubs?|pg|| mb|2S|nt|roswolf: 2 or 3 nt ?|pg|| nt|hedyg: yes getting weaker by the minute..|pg|| nt|pbmarstr: 7-2 to the CR|pg|| nt|hajru: 2@c is 11-14, 6@c or 5@c with a 4 card M|pg|| nt|hajru: Giving north a problem what to bid|pg|| mb|p|nt|spooky: another 3rd hand Light opener|pg|| nt|roswolf: different tempo to this auction|pg|| nt|roswolf: doubt whether they will get close to a slam|pg|| nt|arno11: teams full of star players like Lavazza, Brogeland or Gottlieb on their way out |pg|| nt|hajru: 3@d probably invitational with a good 6 card suit|pg|| nt|hajru: I guess it will end there|pg|| nt|psyck: he will be more dissaponted when he finds they made 4@s other table that deal|pg|| nt|hajru: 2@s transfer to clubs|pg|| mb|2N|an|/|nt|roswolf: now that is a preempt which only a young man can make|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: of course|pg|| nt|roswolf: shows a fit|pg|| mb|p|nt|granguru: undisciplined opening by W|pg|| nt|roswolf: probably reach 5@D|pg|| nt|psyck: they got the same trump lead in 4@s other room|pg|| mb|3C|nt|roswolf: support with support|pg|| mb|p|nt|roswolf: this is action bridge - where will the music stop?|pg|| nt|djneill: example of how usually the weaker hand with a long suit plays better - honors from the strong hand are still relevant, but not if West declares - East's @d not so hot then|pg|| nt|hajru: In the other room, west tried 1@s, not sure what that meant, but it got them to a playable contract|pg|| mb|p|nt|teckh: both major and 11 is an opening allways these days |pg|| mb|p|nt|roswolf: yup the courtesy raise|pg|| nt|teckh: i didnt think Tor opened partnering his wife|pg|| nt|granguru: -1|pg|| pc|s7|nt|roswolf: surely he is allowed to even in a liberated scandavian household:)|pg|| nt|hajru: No, Lebedeva has other thoughts. |pg|| nt|arno11: EW in 4@H on bd 21 so 5 Imps coming for the russians |pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg|| nt|riccho: rehi sry was dropped by my interent conn|pg|| nt|hajru: I don't know what they lead from 109x but then still the @d doesn't make much sense to me|pg|| nt|roswolf: agreed|pg|| nt|blum1956: this one is easy|pg|| nt|pelu: I prefer 2Nt = no fit and 3@C = fit|pg|| pc|sA|nt|spooky: a lack of aces here...|pg|| nt|roswolf: 5@D SEEMS INDICATED|pg|| nt|roswolf: west will/should pass now|pg|| nt|jaapfr: @D6-4-K might seduce N|pg|| nt|hajru: Welcome back|pg|| nt|hajru: This gives the contract a chance|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: I think E is very tired she forgot about lead..|pg|| nt|psyck: unavoidable to get to game here if you play light openings, unfortunately no chances as cards are here|pg|| nt|psyck: even if he contrives to endplay W, that will only push his trick total from 8 to 9|pg|| pc|s2|nt|roswolf: and a lack of a double:(|pg|| nt|teckh: I think Gunn bid once to much|pg|| nt|hedyg: push EW to slam?|pg|| pc|s6|pg|| nt|roswolf: west decides now|pg|| pc|s3|nt|roswolf: 11 more imps to goldcat|pg|| pc|s9|nt|spooky: 3@C was quite a lot indeed...|pg|| nt|roswolf: the vul penalty may be good compensation|pg|| nt|granguru: or -2|pg|| pc|c3|pc|s4|pg|| nt|roswolf: club switch looks attractive|pg|| nt|teckh: I think Tor is too lucky now, 23 and a bunsch of J, and hte only value worth talking of is his spade|pg|| nt|roswolf: luck follows the big battalions|pg|| nt|teckh: he lacks no guts|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h5|nt|hajru: no, ns can take their 7 tricks then|pg|| nt|jbgood: so we are on disagreeing terms again, Peter:)|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h6|pg|| nt|hedyg: started with an oops|pg|| nt|roswolf: on 7 agaonst 4@H in the other room north led @SA and continued spades|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|roswolf: horror show|pg|| nt|jaapfr: true|pg|| nt|arno11: 3@D was forcing as S bid on on minimum values|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|roswolf: he is a BERMUDA BOWL winner|pg|| nt|jaapfr: but we see but E and N can not know that|pg|| nt|riccho: still difficult to collect enough tricks here|pg|| nt|hajru: Goldwater's rule: always accept a lead out of turn. If they don't know who should lead, they probably don't know what to lead|pg|| nt|hajru: Why, if you have no fit, then your honnors are in the other suits and you don't want to be dummy|pg|| pc|h9|nt|hajru: If you take the @d a in the first round, you better know what to return|pg|| nt|jaapfr: doubt N was thinking much:)|pg|| nt|psyck: a tight match with very swingy boards so far|pg|| pc|h2|pg|| nt|roswolf: should make an overtrick now|pg|| nt|roswolf: he has clues to the spade layout|pg|| nt|hajru: That will still be -1 on 7.|pg|| nt|blum1956: In Russia we play 2@s response as "clubs or NT raise" so 3@c from the opener means just maximum|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|arno11: defence shld be able to lock declarer in dummy|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d6|pg|| pc|d8|nt|teckh: N didnt lead a spade, but a diamond, is it 3-2-4-4 or 4-2-4-3, and then possible not the Q|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d3|pc|d4|pg|| pc|cA|nt|roswolf: ????????????????|pg|| nt|hajru: Yes.|pg|| pc|c5|nt|pbmarstr: But 3 NT is on NS|pg|| nt|pbmarstr: But 3 NT is on NS|pg|| nt|roswolf: -4?|pg|| nt|granguru: or-4|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c2|pg|| nt|hedyg: -1|pg|| pc|cK|nt|riccho: kamikaze playing style|pg|| nt|eamongall: heading to game over other side also |pg|| pc|cQ|nt|jaapfr: claim pls|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cT|pg|| nt|roswolf: well a plus is a plus|pg|| mc|11|nt|hedyg: lol Geoffrey|pg|| pg|| qx|o9|st||md|3S94HJ95DT72CAK742,ST876HAQ74DJ5CQ98,SK532HK832DQ8CT65,SAQJHT6DAK9643CJ3|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|rv: 1n by East here?|pg|| nt|hawe45: Not a textbook-1 NT|pg|| mb|2C!|mb|p|mb|2D!|nt|odysseus69: 3NT from West has big chance- 3NT from East no chance- since I hate that 1NT opener I am happy|pg|| mb|p|nt|Walddk2: And 3NT is down on a club lead|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|hawe45: I do´nt like ti - hand can easily be bid well without this opening|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c8|pc|cT|pc|cJ|pg|| nt|rv: best chance is to play @DTX with South|pg|| nt|rv: doesn't work here|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d5|pc|d8|pg|| nt|rv: alternately declarer may play for @cs 4-4 in which she goes for 1 down, if she tries for @DTX with South more down|pg|| nt|Walddk2: 3NT is played by West at the other table after 1@D opening|pg|| nt|rv: in CR, 3n by West on @s lead, could be first big swing for Vriend here|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d7|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dT|pc|s6|nt|hawe45: That was another reason NOT to open 1 NT - lead must obviously come from North|pg|| nt|rv: Cronier has done well to limit damage, may save couple of IMPs here|pg|| nt|odysseus69: 1 down is 12 imps- 2 down 13 - appropriate punishment for opening 1NT|pg|| nt|Walddk2: I disagree, next time North has the long clubs|pg|| nt|odysseus69: although it was a matter of luck that hand on lead had 5 clubs- |pg|| nt|Walddk2: and then they right-side NT here and wrong-side it in the other room|pg|| nt|hawe45: We must admit also - @C-lead might have been from the North-hand - and NOT from South, and then...|pg|| pc|s3|pg|| nt|hawe45: I think, that we AGREE...!|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c9|pc|c6|pc|c3|pg|| pc|cA|pc|cQ|pc|c5|nt|odysseus69: yes on this hand it was not the 1NT which cost- but it was bridge justice that prevailed |pg|| pc|sJ|pg|| pc|c7|pc|h4|pc|h3|pc|h6|pg|| pc|c4|pc|s7|pc|h2|pc|sQ|pg|| mc|8|nt|Walddk2: I'll take that statement to the supreme court|pg|| pg|| qx|c9|st||md|3S94HJ95DT72CAK742,ST876HAQ74DJ5CQ98,SK532HK832DQ8CT65,SAQJHT6DAK9643CJ3|sv|e|nt|hajru: After the second @d, he had 9 tricks but didn't believe that.|pg|| nt|hajru: O, no, he can set up the 5th spade for 10 tricks on 7|pg|| nt|roswolf: yup a push|pg|| mb|p|nt|psyck: bad breaks again for 3N NS here|pg|| mb|1D|nt|roswolf: weak nt = 12-14|pg|| nt|riccho: the defense could collect 5 tricks after @s the switch |pg|| nt|arno11: the bidding cld have gone: 2@C -2@D (relay)-2@S (minimum 5+@C-4@S)-3@C all pass, reaching a reasonable spot|pg|| nt|riccho: ISry I have to leave now (some business appointment :)) hope to c u again soon|pg|| nt|hajru: Yes, or 2@c-3@d-pass |pg|| mb|p|nt|spooky: a light 2@S here|pg|| nt|roswolf: this could be dangerous for someone too|pg|| mb|1H|nt|roswolf: will south pay for a penalty|pg|| nt|roswolf: play|pg|| nt|arno11: nothing to do with the system if you bid to 3NT with 11 to 11 points I think|pg|| nt|psyck: Dealer in a merciless mood today|pg|| mb|p|mb|3D|nt|roswolf: not yet|pg|| nt|hedyg: http://www.bridgebase.com/mobile/ for BBO-TV. Watch all vugraph rooms at the same time, even while playing or in the lobby. No download needed. Open one browser window per table|pg|| nt|roswolf: the majors come into play|pg|| nt|granguru: 2@C showing majors|pg|| nt|roswolf: well should have done|pg|| nt|roswolf: more exciting hands|pg|| nt|jaapfr: pass|pg|| mb|p|nt|granguru: could be landy, multilandy, woolsey, garozzo|pg|| mb|3N|nt|roswolf: north is fixed a bit now|pg|| nt|roswolf: rdbl |pg|| nt|hajru: Agree, I don't understand the 4@h bid in the other room, if you are going to bid that, why not simply do 4@h over 2@s|pg|| mb|p|nt|pbmarstr: 2 down probably|pg|| mb|p|nt|roswolf: right on|pg|| nt|hedyg: E had a choice to bid 1@s or double first|pg|| nt|roswolf: blood will surely flow|pg|| nt|roswolf: practical bid by west|pg|| nt|jaapfr: first doubtful bid frnech|pg|| nt|roswolf: 3nt looks good without a club lead|pg|| mb|p|nt|jbgood: and it is rightsided|pg|| nt|roswolf: unlikely lead from north|pg|| pc|s2|nt|jbgood: must admit I would show E's hand as a strong NT - and gone down in 3 NT|pg|| pc|sJ|nt|roswolf: north bid - spoilsport|pg|| nt|hedyg: yes N's blood when S can reach him?|pg|| nt|roswolf: identical auction at both tables|pg|| nt|psyck: As I pointed out at the start of this segment, the score here was entered as 42-22, but was 40-22 in official site.|pg|| nt|psyck: http://b.poznan2011.pl/mxt/r16runda1.html|pg|| nt|psyck: either way, it is a 1imp difference :)|pg|| pc|s4|nt|roswolf: this looks ok|pg|| nt|spooky: this will be just made, South will lose 1@D more|pg|| nt|hajru: That is not going to help the defence|pg|| nt|jaapfr: i agree with 2@S-3@H-3@S-Pass|pg|| nt|arno11: yes or 3@D all pass both very safe contracts|pg|| pc|s7|pg|| nt|roswolf: :)female intuition|pg|| nt|pelu: no stopper in 2 suits, Jon|pg|| nt|hajru: isn't standard in mixed pairs to tell the female player never to bid NT first?|pg|| nt|jbgood: do you really care?|pg|| nt|hajru: sorry girls :)|pg|| nt|roswolf: maybe std but wrong at this level|pg|| nt|blum1956: Not the best idea to open 1NT with 14HCP out of 15 in two suits (if the alternative opening bid is available)|pg|| nt|roswolf: good quality final - would be decent in an open event as well|pg|| nt|jbgood: yes - strong teams playing well|pg|| pc|d3|nt|roswolf: indeed hedy:)|pg|| nt|granguru: good decision by Dufrat|pg|| pc|d2|nt|hedyg: XX= i have a good hand, N can pass and let her bid again|pg|| nt|roswolf: words fail me|pg|| nt|hajru: Finland now 8 imp's ahead in total|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pg|| nt|pelu: most of the female players are World Champs - if not all of them|pg|| nt|pelu: Hi, Jon, Benedicte Cronier did open 1NT here - and she will go down in 3NT|pg|| pc|h2|nt|granguru: 2@H plays also good|pg|| nt|psyck: maybe some endplay on W|pg|| pc|h6|nt|roswolf: declarer needs not 5to try and ruff a spade back to hand|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hQ|pg|| nt|jbgood: unfortunate|pg|| nt|hajru: Yes, all 4: Carla won the women's pairs, the French ladies the Venice cup, Bep both|pg|| pc|d5|nt|eamongall: it seems to be now 40-22 ... having been 12 imps to Balti then 7 imps to Balti and currently 10 imps to Balti |pg|| nt|psyck: but may not be clear to paly for it|pg|| nt|eamongall: maybe ruling as there is no score in as EW |pg|| pc|d8|pc|dA|pc|d7|pg|| nt|eamongall: board 10 of first set |pg|| pc|dK|pc|dT|nt|psyck: NS get to 4@h here in other table, that should also be interesting, likely down with @h42|pg|| pc|s8|nt|spooky: after the overcall she is warned|pg|| nt|roswolf: ???|pg|| pc|s3|pg|| pc|d9|pc|c2|pc|h4|nt|roswolf: well i must admit i dont like opening 1NT on the east hand - i would do it but i wouldnt like it:)|pg|| pc|h3|pg|| nt|roswolf: safely done|pg|| nt|psyck: W will be endplayed to give @s or @d trick sooner or later i think|pg|| pc|d6|nt|psyck: no chance now|pg|| pc|c7|pc|s6|nt|jbgood: :)|pg|| nt|pelu: I am so old - I only do what I like - so 1@D :):)|pg|| nt|roswolf: :)|pg|| pc|c5|pg|| pc|d4|nt|roswolf: rdbl is rarely for t/o - well what can you expect from a man in a mixed event!?:(|pg|| nt|hedyg: of course :(|pg|| pc|c4|nt|psyck: I though he would cash @hT before playing @s & get a clue|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h8|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h5|pc|hA|pc|hK|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|s9|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o10|st||md|4SKT9HJ972DKT3CK84,SJ752HKQ6DQ98C762,SAQ6HT53DJ754CAQJ,S843HA84DA62CT953|sv|b|mb|p|nt|odysseus69: european court of human rights - your best bet- all injustices are sanctioned there|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|hawe45: The appeal court is in the dutch capital...|pg|| mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: But it's not a war crime to open 1NT|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|rv: even those who like playing and defending low level contracts won't like to watch the play on cold 1n|pg|| nt|odysseus69: just offensive to so called purists |pg|| pc|c3|pc|c4|pc|c2|pc|cQ|pg|| nt|hawe45: OK - Amsterdam remains capital - OK with me|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d2|pc|dT|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cJ|pc|c5|pc|c8|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d6|pc|dK|pc|d8|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d9|pc|dJ|pc|dA|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c10|st||md|4SKT9HJ972DKT3CK84,SJ752HKQ6DQ98C762,SAQ6HT53DJ754CAQJ,S843HA84DA62CT953|sv|b|nt|roswolf: We are now on the last board of the set. Thanks to our great operator - Great Job! Our appreciation to all the organisers for ensuring that this fine event is brought to BBO ...|pg|| nt|roswolf: vugraph. Thanks too to my very learned fellow commentator Tarjei for his company and perceptive comments and to our specs whose contributions keep us on our toes.|pg|| nt|spooky: last board of this round already|pg|| nt|roswolf: We are now on the last board of the set. Thanks to our operator - Great Job! Our appreciation to all the organisers for ensuring that this fine event is brought to BBO vugraph. ...|pg|| nt|roswolf: Thanks too to my very learned fellow commentators Gerbrand and Tarjei for their company and perceptive comments and to our specs whose contributions keep us on our toes.|pg|| nt|hedyg: last board of this match now|pg|| nt|roswolf: We are now on the last board of the set. Thanks to our operator, Michal - Great Job! Our appreciation to all the organisers for ensuring that this fine event is brought to BBO ...|pg|| nt|roswolf: vugraph. Thanks too to my very learned fellow commentators John and Peter for their company and perceptive comments and to our specs whose contributions keep us on our toes.|pg|| nt|roswolf: We are now on the last board of the set. Thanks to our operator, Michal - Great Job! Our appreciation to all the organisers for ensuring that this fine event is brought to BBO ...|pg|| nt|roswolf: vugraph. Thanks too to my very learned fellow commentators John and Dan for their company and perceptive comments and to our specs whose contributions keep us on our toes.|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: http://b.poznan2011.pl/mxt/r32runda1.html|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: http://b.poznan2011.pl/mxt/br.html|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: http://b.poznan2011.pl/mxt/r32runda1.html|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: http://b.poznan2011.pl/mxt/br.html|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg|| mb|p|nt|roswolf: We are now on the last board of the set. Thanks to our operator, Michal - Great Job! Our appreciation to all the organisers for ensuring that this fine event is brought to BBO ...|pg|| nt|roswolf: vugraph. Thanks too to my very learned fellow commentator Hedy for her company and perceptive comments and to our specs whose contributions keep us on our toes.|pg|| nt|djneill: thanks|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: http://b.poznan2011.pl/mxt/r16runda1.html|pg|| mb|p|nt|hajru: Weak NT from south, stayman, 4@h, losing 2 trumps and a spade.|pg|| nt|hajru: (and time to get a coffee)|pg|| mb|p|nt|roswolf: brian and sandra are quick players|pg|| nt|teckh: 4@s, -1, isnt it|pg|| nt|hedyg: thanks Geoffrey to you :)|pg|| mb|1D|nt|granguru: time passes fast...already in the last board|pg|| mb|p|nt|roswolf: damp squibb of a hand|pg|| mb|1H|mb|p|nt|spooky: what will north rebid now?|pg|| nt|roswolf: this looks like a n/s 3nt in these aggressive days|pg|| mb|1N|nt|roswolf: at least this looks normal|pg|| nt|blum1956: 2NT is OK, 3 fails|pg|| mb|p|nt|hedyg: some might go for 3NT|pg|| nt|hedyg: and go down|pg|| nt|roswolf: perhaps but i expect most to play 4@S|pg|| mb|p|nt|roswolf: that is typical brian|pg|| nt|granguru: EW have a clear advantage up to now..|pg|| nt|roswolf: very quick in this room|pg|| nt|hajru: Well, south didn't have a bid to show majors?|pg|| mb|p|nt|vugraphpl8: http://b.poznan2011.pl/mxt/frunda1.html|pg|| nt|roswolf: a good conservative view|pg|| nt|hajru: I would not move over 1NT|pg|| pc|c5|nt|teckh: strange bid wiht a single @c|pg|| nt|spooky: friendly lead, but don't exepct it to come in|pg|| nt|jaapfr: 3nt no coffee time|pg|| pc|c4|nt|granguru: 6 boards in advance|pg|| pc|c7|nt|hajru: I guess she now makes 9 tricks|pg|| pc|cQ|pg|| nt|Walddk4: 27+5 qualify for the Round of 32 tomorrow after five rounds of Swiss today. 27 from Swiss A and 5 from B|pg|| nt|pelu: this is standard frence bidding - whats wrong with that?|pg|| pc|d5|nt|psyck: i'd have expected 3@h instead of 2, but no problems getting to 4 anyway here|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dT|pc|dQ|pg|| nt|hedyg: thanks Roland !|pg|| nt|roswolf: absolutely nothing|pg|| pc|c6|nt|arno11: I guess reaching 3NT on bd 23 is not that easy many will go down in high @D contracts|pg|| pc|cA|nt|roswolf: brian has distinct views in the bidding and this is one of them - there are many negative inferences from the acol base|pg|| nt|granguru: other room just finished nr.24...a tie|pg|| nt|roswolf: restart scheduled in another hour|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c8|pg|| nt|spooky: Dummy is usesless now|pg|| nt|roswolf: THAT WAS ALWAYS LIKELY|pg|| pc|d4|nt|roswolf: alert defence|pg|| nt|blum1956: They probably play 15-17 NT so d'Ovidio knows the maximum is 24|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dK|nt|roswolf: restartin 30 mins or so|pg|| nt|teckh: thx all|pg|| nt|jaapfr: x@H|pg|| nt|jaapfr: @H5 now|pg|| nt|hajru: Back, wow, why wouldn't you bid 3@h over 2@s|pg|| nt|jaapfr: do not ask me pls|pg|| nt|hajru: aren't we supposed to be the experts and explain this? ;)|pg|| pc|d8|pg|| nt|jaapfr: how to show @H now|pg|| nt|jaapfr: she will get a second chance but then he plays @HK|pg|| nt|jaapfr: she|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: http://b.poznan2011.pl/mxt/r32runda1.html|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: http://b.poznan2011.pl/mxt/br.html|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg|| nt|hajru: I'm still not sure why east rebid 3NT. It looks like there are 2 ways to bid the north hand: stayman, then|pg|| nt|jaapfr: N|pg|| nt|hajru: 3@s (or 3@h smolen) over 2@d, or transfer, then 3@h. In both cases, south picks the right contract from |pg|| nt|hajru: 3nt, 4@h or 4@s. |pg|| pc|d3|nt|roswolf: one of them is south is unlikely to have 5 cards in her suit|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dJ|pc|dA|pg|| nt|hajru: That is not the way to defeat 3NT|pg|| nt|jaapfr: E hopes are that pd has @DJ|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o11|st||md|1ST65HATD976CQ9543,SQ942HK86DKJ2CAJ8,SAKJ3HQJ9542DQ8CK,S87H73DAT543CT762|sv|o|nt|Walddk2: The Hague is the seat of the Dutch parliament, not the capital|pg|| mb|p|mb|1C!|nt|rv: auction here could mirror that in CR, could go 1@h all pass here as well|pg|| nt|Walddk2: I would refuse to travel all the way to Poland to play in 1@H. I can do that at home|pg|| mb|1H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|rv: Roland you seem to share David Bird's view of watching or commenting 1 level contracts:)|pg|| nt|Walddk2: They are breathtaking|pg|| nt|rv: some specs predicting Zimmermann will balance here|pg|| nt|Walddk2: What is Mr Zimmermann thinking about I wonder|pg|| nt|odysseus69: Zimmermann hates to pass - he knows he should|pg|| nt|rv: he hasn't come all the way to Poland to defend 1@h and may not care much about what bidding theory says|pg|| mb|p|nt|hawe45: He has a bad board already - less than 140 seems difficult to get|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Must be a forcing pass after such a long time|pg|| pc|s8|nt|Walddk2: :)|pg|| nt|rv: lol|pg|| nt|rv: lol Roland|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s4|pc|sJ|pg|| nt|rv: just 20 IMPs exchange in 10 deals, normally a sign of good bridge|pg|| nt|odysseus69: or flat boards|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c6|pc|c3|nt|rv: yes, possibly true here|pg|| nt|rv: 9 tricks here possible|pg|| pc|cA|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d8|pc|dT|pc|d6|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d7|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pg|| nt|Walddk2: If I don't get a stepping stone squeeze very soon, I'll go to the pub and drink for hours|pg|| pc|s7|nt|odysseus69: looks sure 9 - he will play heart ace first for sure|pg|| pc|s6|pc|s2|pc|sA|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|h6|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c8|pc|s3|pc|c2|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|h7|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|d5|pc|sT|pg|| pc|hQ|mc|9|nt|rv: Roland from your statement, looks like you might be wishing for no stepping stone:) |pg|| pg|| qx|c11|st||md|1ST65HATD976CQ9543,SQ942HK86DKJ2CAJ8,SAKJ3HQJ9542DQ8CK,S87H73DAT543CT762|sv|o|nt|jaapfr: but his @C2 was confusing|pg|| nt|hajru: Now, this is more interesting|pg|| nt|psyck: Now tied as we think the actual score is 2 less than the score shown here for Balti|pg|| nt|psyck: there will be a lot of bidding with double fits here|pg|| nt|roswolf: this might have some action|pg|| mb|p|nt|jaapfr: look to bidding in open|pg|| mb|1C|mb|1H|nt|pelu: 2@H/3@h|pg|| mb|p|nt|psyck: this opening gagged EW at this vul|pg|| mb|p|nt|hajru: Well, maybe, but east can see that he is forced to play a card and shouldn't attach too much meaning to it.|pg|| mb|p|nt|jaapfr: 5@C or 4nt|pg|| nt|hajru: Well, E went down in 3NT on board 9 and we have a new leader in the match|pg|| nt|pelu: ok 1@H - and no action|pg|| nt|roswolf: not this morning|pg|| nt|hajru: Time for a coffee!|pg|| pc|s8|nt|hajru: Next board. Bidding in the open looks like stone age slam bidding.|pg|| nt|hajru: with 5@s asking for a club control.|pg|| nt|arno11: horrible hand....|pg|| nt|jbgood: yes:)|pg|| nt|pelu: one for me also :) - with sugar|pg|| pc|s5|nt|psyck: dont often find a profitable unfav vul sac like here|pg|| pc|s2|nt|hajru: 12 tricks in hearts but NS can spoil the fun by leading a club |pg|| pc|sJ|pg|| nt|pelu: same bidding to 1Nt in OR|pg|| pc|h2|nt|arno11: make 6@H against any lead|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hA|nt|hajru: doesn't a club lead spoil communications?|pg|| nt|psyck: not just a sac, looks like 4@s & 5@h make, so 5@s would be the sac :)|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: no risk no fun|pg|| pc|h6|pg|| nt|hajru: In the meantime, I don't see what west will accomplish with 4@d|pg|| nt|arno11: might end in 6NT|pg|| nt|arno11: doubled for a @S lead?|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: now 10 imps for Finland|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h8|pc|hQ|nt|arno11: at least they get a plus score|pg|| pc|h7|pg|| nt|jaapfr: nasty S hand|pg|| nt|arno11: slams that make are 6@C 6@H and 6N by West....|pg|| nt|hajru: Sure, you will have to come to Singapore to get it though|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|cA|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|d3|pc|c4|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d8|pc|d4|nt|hajru: Yes, and after trick 1, she is at least happy that she isn't playing 6N. |pg|| pc|d6|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pc|d7|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d9|pc|dJ|nt|arno11: other table bid 2@C-2@S-2NT(?)-6@H 2N made it easier for West of course, but ....|pg|| pc|h5|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|s6|pc|s4|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o12|st||md|2SA543HQT97DQ2CAQ8,SQ976HJ42DA86CJ93,SKT82H6DT753CKT42,SJHAK853DKJ94C765|sv|n|nt|Walddk2: Another fascinating contract in store|pg|| nt|Walddk2: 20-20|pg|| nt|odysseus69: what action over 1H?|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|1H|nt|Walddk2: Pass, what else?|pg|| mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|rv: will anyone consider balance with South hand on 2@h?|pg|| nt|Walddk2: I would consider for 1.8763234 seconds and pass|pg|| nt|mareczek: I think double would be more safe on 1 level|pg|| nt|odysseus69: normal for us old timers but macho males seem to always bid - sound females also pass|pg|| nt|rv: Vriend's @h pips may sway her to pass|pg|| mb|p|nt|rv: @HJ is more likely to come up in East hand and she might elect to defend|pg|| pc|sA|nt|Walddk2: Not a pleasant lead situation but she found a very good lead|pg|| nt|rv: I believe at the other table, commentators were betting on a coke that Dutch would balance here|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sT|pc|sJ|pg|| nt|odysseus69: especially when opener is in 3rd seat at favourable there is more case for action- |pg|| nt|odysseus69: that 10 was a little excessive|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Women are East and South as dictates by the EBL, for reasons only known to themselves. There is no logic as I see it. Let them sit where they want for goodness sake|pg|| nt|rv: Maas's sT may be with intent to encourage and give ruff to partner|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d4|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h6|pc|hA|pc|h7|pg|| nt|hawe45: East should know now, that @H-length might be in South|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h9|pc|h4|nt|rv: still 1 down here|pg|| nt|Walddk2: There is nothing sexist about it as males are dictated to sit North and West as a consequence. It's just daft in my opinion|pg|| pc|c4|pg|| nt|odysseus69: but dq brought fear of diamond ruffs|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hQ|pc|hJ|nt|rv: I presume Cronier could have played low @h at trick 3|pg|| pc|s2|pg|| nt|rv: from tempo of play and lead, @d didn't look like a stiff|pg|| pc|hT|pc|s7|pc|s8|pc|h3|pg|| nt|rv: 2 down on accurate defense here|pg|| nt|Walddk2: In the two semifinals yesterday we had scores of 10-8 and 9-8 respectively ater the first half. Guess how interesting those boards were|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s9|pc|sK|pc|h8|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d2|pc|d6|pc|d5|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c8|pc|c9|pc|cT|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c6|nt|rv: Roland, these set of boards test the temparament of all concerned - players, commentators and even kibitzers|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c3|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cJ|pc|c2|pc|c7|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sQ|pc|d7|pc|d9|pg|| pc|d8|pc|dT|pc|dJ|pc|s5|pg|| pg|| qx|c12|st||md|2SA543HQT97DQ2CAQ8,SQ976HJ42DA86CJ93,SKT82H6DT753CKT42,SJHAK853DKJ94C765|sv|n|nt|vugraphpl8: http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg|| nt|hajru: It'd be interesting to know what north's pass meant. |pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: http://b.poznan2011.pl/mxt/r32runda1.html|pg|| nt|jaapfr: a solid 4@S now coffee time or vuln 5@H save?|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: http://b.poznan2011.pl/mxt/br.html|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: http://b.poznan2011.pl/mxt/r32runda1.html|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: http://b.poznan2011.pl/mxt/br.html|pg|| mb|p|nt|hajru: I think 6@h by west is a lot more practical.|pg|| nt|hajru: than 4@d|pg|| mb|p|nt|psyck: if @c ruff, no @d trick & if @d lead, no @s trick|pg|| nt|psyck: EW couldn't come in even after 1@h opening other room :(|pg|| nt|psyck: not everyone passes with S hand nowadays|pg|| mb|1H|nt|jaapfr: nah just 4@S|pg|| mb|p|mb|2H|nt|hajru: Russia just took the lead by 3|pg|| mb|p|nt|hajru: Interesting difference in hand evaluation by the 2 east players. Closed, east made simple raise,|pg|| nt|eamongall: operator entered 4@S all pass I suspect as final contract |pg|| nt|psyck: i pass poor balanced 12 hcp hands, but would open with this S hand.|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: dealer was on e so only contract is good|pg|| mb|p|nt|hajru: here she does a limit+ or something.|pg|| nt|roswolf: south will back in now|pg|| mb|p|nt|psyck: ok thx, looks normal contract anyway|pg|| nt|roswolf: hmm very cautious|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s6|pc|s8|pc|sJ|pg|| nt|arno11: but at our table East cld have been something like 64 in the minors 2@H1@S |pg|| nt|blum1956: the @sJ will probably win a trick|pg|| nt|hajru: Unless partner has 3+@s, balancing is not that attractive|pg|| nt|roswolf: it did|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h7|nt|psyck: as I was saying, I open S as it is 4432 not 4333, has 2 Aces, & there is no rebid problem.|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h6|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h9|pc|h4|nt|jaapfr: @SA @SQ|pg|| nt|hajru: Yes, I don;t think that NS have a chance to bid hearts, so we'll end up in a boring 4@s|pg|| nt|roswolf: i bet the dutch would bid in that position|pg|| pc|d5|pg|| nt|pelu: bet taken - a coke?|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d7|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pg|| nt|hajru: Claim!|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hJ|pc|dT|pc|h3|pg|| pc|hT|pc|c3|pc|cT|pc|h5|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s7|pc|sT|pc|h8|pg|| pc|dK|pc|c8|pc|d8|pc|c2|pg|| pc|d9|pc|cQ|pc|c9|pc|s2|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cA|pc|cJ|pc|c4|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|c6|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c7|pc|sA|pc|s9|pg|| pg|| qx|o13|st||md|3S8HQT864DKT9CAJ63,SKJT6543HA2DJ3CT5,SA2HKJ5DQ852CQ982,SQ97H973DA764CK74|sv|b|nt|rv: we have 2200+kibs here, they seem to have the temparament:)|pg|| nt|Walddk2: I am on my second 5 mg of Valium|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Now this is interesting|pg|| mb|1D|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: Will she make 10 or 11 tricks in 4@H|pg|| mb|1H|nt|hawe45: Let them bid i first|pg|| nt|odysseus69: have to leave - grandfather shift - thx all|pg|| nt|rv: thx Viktor|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Lame excuse, Victor got fed up with the boards|pg|| nt|hawe45: 3 @S should be that|pg|| nt|rv: is it remotely possible for declarer to misguess both minors and go down?|pg|| mb|2S|nt|Walddk2: should be what?|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|3H|nt|Walddk2: Vriend would also double after 3@S|pg|| nt|hawe45: To maybe keep N/S out of game|pg|| mb|3S|nt|Walddk2: Even Hans would, although he could not be in the South seat|pg|| nt|rv: with Zimmermann's hand, I would bid 3@s even on this shape and at these colors|pg|| nt|hawe45: Operator, please - put Easts 3 @S-bid into the place, where it belongs = 1 round earlier...|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Given his 4@H opening earlier, 2@S is perhaps a wee bit timid|pg|| nt|rv: possibly Cronier could have raised to 3@s in previous round to put more pressure|pg|| nt|rv: now Vriend will bid game here more easily|pg|| mb|4H|nt|Walddk2: I think she bid 4@H long time ago and that Zimmermann is thinking about bidding 4@S|pg|| nt|rv: my choice is 3@s with West in first round as well as raise of 2@s to 3@s with East hand:)|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|rv: I presume Cronier is a bit circumspect with Zimmermann who is normally a very aggressive bidder|pg|| pc|sJ|nt|rv: Vriend is likely to misguess @ds, there is a possibility (however remote) she goes down here|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|s8|pg|| nt|odysseus69: reprieve|pg|| nt|rv: Zimmermann has led well here, if had to lead a short suit for ruff @DJ better than @CT|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s9|pc|h4|pc|s5|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h2|pc|hJ|pc|h7|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Well, now he endplayed himself|pg|| nt|Walddk2: By not winning @HA and exiting with one|pg|| nt|odysseus69: should have hopped up with h ace|pg|| nt|rv: yes, Zimmermann erred here|pg|| nt|hawe45: @D to the 10 now...|pg|| nt|rv: wlc back Viktor|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Diaper done with?|pg|| nt|Walddk2: You said grandchild duties, right?|pg|| pc|c2|nt|rv: or a game contract as Roland is implying:)|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cJ|pc|c5|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h3|pg|| nt|odysseus69: yes but the boss said I was excused|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Curtains|pg|| nt|rv: well played Bep Vriend, Zimmermann could still earn an IMP here|pg|| nt|Walddk2: How?|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pc|dT|pg|| nt|Walddk2: She will advance @CQ at some point and flatten the board|pg|| nt|Walddk2: she has full count|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Zimmermann does not have a singleton diamond when he did not lead one|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hT|nt|odysseus69: i missed the start-is spade position clear|pg|| pc|s3|pc|hK|pg|| nt|hawe45: On a @D-lead and -ruff, this would have been borderline|pg|| nt|Walddk2: @CQ now surely. Bets?|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c7|pc|cA|pc|cT|pg|| nt|Walddk2: ha, too late|pg|| nt|hawe45: I bet - too late?|pg|| nt|Walddk2: So she played Zimmermann for a singleton diamond he did not lead|pg|| nt|odysseus69: or maybe for a spade less|pg|| mc|10|nt|hawe45: Could we take board 14?|pg|| pg|| qx|c13|st||md|3S8HQT864DKT9CAJ63,SKJT6543HA2DJ3CT5,SA2HKJ5DQ852CQ982,SQ97H973DA764CK74|sv|b|nt|psyck: they want to keep us on the edge until the last deal|pg|| nt|jbgood: the non-safety play in trump was likely made on the basis that 4-1 split was unlikely since nobody entered the bidding?|pg|| nt|roswolf: this has some bite to it|pg|| mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H|nt|hajru: 1@c polish, lots of options.|pg|| nt|pelu: so against Geoffrey for sure @Hs 3-2 :)|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|nt|psyck: some kind of artificial @h raise, they do not have the shape or values to cross game anyway|pg|| mb|p|nt|hajru: And now EW are in trouble. |pg|| nt|arno11: EW in trouble|pg|| mb|d|nt|psyck: and even if they do, 5 level looks safe|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: now it is 61-61 |pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: http://b.poznan2011.pl/mxt/r16runda1.html|pg|| mb|p|nt|jaapfr: this will get a helpful lead|pg|| nt|arno11: :)|pg|| nt|hajru: Interesting choice from north.|pg|| nt|psyck: or 59-59 :)|pg|| nt|andreasw: exiting:-)|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: yes|pg|| mb|3H|mb|3S|nt|roswolf: a support double would have been useful here|pg|| mb|4H|nt|roswolf: but they are still there|pg|| nt|pelu: tx for the undo - I almost fall of my chair :)|pg|| mb|p|nt|jaapfr: @CT I presume|pg|| nt|hajru: same auction as the open room, west likely to lead a minor and declarer well on her way to 9 tricks|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: E says faster|pg|| nt|arno11: Finland still alive|pg|| mb|p|nt|hajru: Yes, they just regained the lead. |pg|| nt|eamongall: Hanlon rolls out the cannon |pg|| mb|p|pc|cT|nt|pelu: only problem for declaer solve in the lead|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: :) sry|pg|| nt|jbgood: no porblem now - a @d lead might have been more testing|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|hajru: Why? They've played for 1:48 now, surely they cannot be in time trouble|pg|| nt|psyck: oh well, what do i know|pg|| pc|cK|nt|hajru: This helps declarer as well, he can now place @sJT with west|pg|| nt|jaapfr: what a nice first trick by and for S:)|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: they have 12 min|pg|| nt|hajru: Should be ok for 1.5 board then|pg|| nt|jaapfr: @CA @DA and x@D|pg|| nt|psyck: if he finesses @dJ, can make on non @s lead|pg|| nt|eamongall: he needs to pull off some trick to make this or a favourable lead as well as trump hook working |pg|| pc|cA|pg|| nt|eamongall: Thomas Hanlon is a fine declarer but this is probably beyond him |pg|| nt|psyck: kibs point out that it can make on @s lead too|pg|| nt|pbmarstr: End position Q of spades and a doubleton Qx in diamonds|pg|| nt|psyck: has a lot of guessing to do with several options now|pg|| nt|eamongall: can take 10 top tricks and pla sp a more sp, endplays south ..from AndersK|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hA|pc|h5|nt|hajru: and I'd have liked to see the play in 3Nx open|pg|| pc|h3|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c2|nt|eamongall: he did not play @H2 surely |pg|| pc|c7|pc|cJ|pg|| nt|jbgood: but leading the @d jack is by no means standard|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|h7|pg|| nt|jcomyn: and both bloody kings wrong|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h9|pc|h8|nt|jcomyn: but may still make|pg|| nt|psyck: this will certainly decide the match now|pg|| nt|eamongall: they general consensus is backward finesse the @D ... who does that in real life|pg|| nt|jcomyn: kinder may|pg|| nt|eamongall: lots of help from kibitzers for Hanlon but he cannot hear it unless sound is turned on vugraphers machine |pg|| nt|jcomyn: yes d to the a and run d 10|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: :)|pg|| nt|psyck: Our operator Michal is trying to maintain a poker face :)|pg|| nt|andersk: or 2x club and @DA and run @D 10|pg|| nt|eamongall: well I have seen Thomas Hanlon make many contracts and he will take his time I think |pg|| nt|roswolf: definitely not|pg|| pc|s3|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|dK|pc|dJ|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o14|st||md|4SQ62HJ9DQ764CJT86,SJ987H763DAT52C94,SAK3HAQT54DK9CQ53,ST54HK82DJ83CAK72|sv|o|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: 10-12, Zimmermann likes that|pg|| nt|Walddk2: He plays the same with Franck Multon|pg|| nt|odysseus69: where will thi end? - 1ntx looks likely|pg|| mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|nt|mareczek: the best to rescue is to do it immediately|pg|| mb|2C|mb|p|nt|mareczek: he should bid 2@c and pass any response|pg|| mb|2H|mb|p|nt|Walddk2: I don't understand why Vriend pulled|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|odysseus69: maybe they dont play penalty doubles of 1NT - BIG MISTAKE|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c9|pc|c5|pg|| nt|odysseus69: surely against mini NT double has to be penalty and South has easy pass- |pg|| pc|cK|pc|c8|pc|c4|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cT|pc|h6|pc|c3|pg|| pc|d5|pc|d9|pc|d3|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|hK|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cJ|pc|h7|pc|hT|pg|| nt|odysseus69: reminds us of Steve McQueen film - The Great Escape- except it was just an amnesty here|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|h9|pc|s8|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s7|pc|sA|pc|s4|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h8|pc|d4|pc|d2|pg|| mc|8|nt|rv: just 29 IMPs in 14 deals, 1 IMP separating teams, sets up nicely for next 2 segments where we can expect more exciting boards|pg|| nt|odysseus69: that board should have been exciting|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Maybe they left the table because they think they play 14 boards again today|pg|| nt|rv: Roland, cash prizes given to prize-winners here unlike in ACBL events?|pg|| nt|Walddk2: It's 16 in the final|pg|| nt|odysseus69: board 15 gone missing?|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Yes, cash prizes|pg|| nt|odysseus69: but no master points|pg|| nt|Walddk2: http://www.eurobridge.org/competitions/11Poznan/Poznan.htm|pg|| pg|| qx|c14|st||md|4SQ62HJ9DQ764CJT86,SJ987H763DAT52C94,SAK3HAQT54DK9CQ53,ST54HK82DJ83CAK72|sv|o|nt|jaapfr: a bit freakish board here|pg|| nt|hajru: Last board of the set. |pg|| nt|hajru: Last board, finland up by 5.|pg|| nt|psyck: game set & match|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: W is happy and Balti is K.O>|pg|| nt|jcomyn: knew he would and how he would play it|pg|| mb|p|nt|vugraphpl8: http://b.poznan2011.pl/mxt/r16runda1.html|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Dificult to imagine that N-S will make 3NT if they are in it|pg|| nt|jbgood: another low-scoring match - at least so far|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|hajru: Yes, only 2 swings so far and a couple of overtricks.|pg|| mb|1H|nt|hajru: this looks like 3nt for NS|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: http://b.poznan2011.pl/mxt/r32runda1.html|pg|| nt|hajru: 1@c polis, 1@s, 2N, 3N?|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg|| mb|p|nt|Walddk2: or 4@H for that matter|pg|| nt|eamongall: they will know they need something now |pg|| nt|psyck: Last deal. Thanks to my cocommentators. Good job Michal. Thanks to the kibs for joining us & for their inputs.|pg|| mb|1N|nt|jaapfr: 22@D by E?|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|nt|hajru: By east it would make sense, not sure about north though|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Hanlon thinking about bidding 2NT|pg|| mb|p|nt|Walddk2: and did|pg|| nt|pelu: 1,5 IMP pr. board - but a lots of the boards were very flat|pg|| mb|p|nt|jaapfr: after S unexpected X N 2@D makes some sense|pg|| nt|eamongall: 3@Ds maybe |pg|| mb|p|pc|s7|nt|Walddk2: Really?|pg|| nt|eamongall: this hardly right |pg|| nt|pelu: Beb Vriend also passed after 1@h - 2@h P P - so tx for the coke :)|pg|| nt|pelu: but she didnt pass fast, so @Hs can be 4-1|pg|| nt|jbgood: nine tricks - but the defense is favorite to take 5 before the 9th can be cashed|pg|| pc|sA|nt|Walddk2: This is unreal|pg|| pc|s4|nt|Walddk2: I don't think South bid 3@C|pg|| pc|s6|pg|| nt|hajru: No, apparently NS don't use 2@d as a spade raise and have a natural 2@d available|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: http://b.poznan2011.pl/mxt/br.html|pg|| pc|c3|nt|hajru: That should be sufficient for EW to win the match|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cJ|nt|eamongall: phew |pg|| nt|eamongall: no more jingle jangle now |pg|| pc|c4|pg|| nt|hajru: While east is considering her next move, let's thank the operator|pg|| nt|arno11: unfortunately bd 27 does not look to rosy for them|pg|| nt|arno11: too|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Must lose 5 tricks|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|hajru: Next round at 12:30 I believe.|pg|| nt|hajru: Yes, it looks like it cost them the match|pg|| pc|h7|nt|jaapfr: anyway a well deserved victory for the French imo|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h2|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h6|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg|| nt|jbgood: but home and dry now|pg|| nt|blum1956: Arnolds had to raise up with the @cK and play another spade|pg|| nt|jbgood: yes|pg|| nt|blum1956: which looks very simple indeed|pg|| pc|sT|nt|jbgood: must agree to that too...|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sJ|nt|hajru: They still have 14 boards to play|pg|| pc|s3|pg|| pc|d4|nt|hajru: Trick 1 looks like a mispull from south|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dK|pc|d3|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h8|pc|c6|nt|Walddk2: Thanks all|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: bye|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Back in 14 hours|pg|| pc|h3|pg|| nt|jaapfr: imo N was starting with a mondaymorning feeling:)|pg|| pc|h5|pc|c7|pc|d6|pc|d5|pg|| nt|hajru: D6, 2, 4and now you play the 3 vrom 73?|pg|| pc|hT|nt|hajru: Well, I guess Russia wins unless the Fins find a way to score 6 imps on this one|pg|| nt|hajru: Thanks all for watching, back later today|pg|| nt|hajru: Bye for now|pg|| nt|arno11: bye all|pg|| pc|s5|nt|hajru: Yes, the defense must not get too active on this one, but ducking the @c was too passive|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o15|st||md|1SQ532HT85D762CQ86,SA97HAJ64DQ93CK75,ST864HKQ932DJ84CA,SKJH7DAKT5CJT9432|sv|n|nt|rv: much and more needed in bridge to incentivize the game|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Finally a slam|pg|| nt|rv: good slam to boot|pg|| nt|Walddk2: alle tijd om te kijken as they would say in Dutch|pg|| nt|odysseus69: lots of tricks in CR -maybe a low heart lead|pg|| nt|rv: decent slam|pg|| nt|mareczek: Roland slam - missing only one key card and the trump queen|pg|| nt|Walddk2: wots the problem|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Is @CQ right or not?|pg|| mb|p|nt|mareczek: who take care of the Queens...|pg|| mb|1C!|mb|1H|mb|2H!|nt|MarekW: TD was at the table because Zimmermann made long break after 1NT|pg|| mb|p|nt|odysseus69: also potential problem with 4th diamond|pg|| nt|rv: 2@h is good raise in @cs, Zimmermann may bid 2n and Cronier may try 3@d|pg|| mb|2N|mb|p|nt|odysseus69: similar start in CR - 2S instead of 2H which probably meant same whatever that is|pg|| mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|rv: I suspect auction will die down in 3n here as well, Cronier's 3@c seems like underbid to me if it is non-forcing as I suspect|pg|| nt|odysseus69: lack of a 4th club discourages M Z|pg|| nt|mareczek: 2@h was game forcing|pg|| nt|odysseus69: 3C forcing for sure|pg|| nt|rv: OK, still why not bid 3@d to bid out picture of hand|pg|| nt|odysseus69: high heart for an imp|pg|| nt|rv: helps partner evaluate his hand better|pg|| nt|Walddk2: 14½ boards in 2½ hours is not lightning fast|pg|| nt|odysseus69: low spade would worry declarer|pg|| nt|Walddk2: In fact, they are on overtime already|pg|| nt|rv: Roland, any of these players in your dreaded list of slow players?|pg|| nt|Walddk2: 2 hours and 20 minutes allotted for 16 boards playing with screens|pg|| pc|h2|nt|rv: some specs telling me 2@h was GF not necessarily @c fit and Cronier is showing @c fit only with 3@c which answers my question |pg|| pc|h7|pc|hT|pc|hJ|pg|| nt|Walddk2: No Venky, they are not even in the top 100|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Although Bep Vriends might belong there|pg|| nt|rv: for the sake of specs could we have your latest top 5?|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Vriend|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|dA|pc|d7|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c6|nt|Walddk2: Muller and PO tied 1st|pg|| pc|c5|pc|cA|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Grøtheim 3rd|pg|| pc|hK|nt|Walddk2: Fantoni 4th|pg|| nt|rv: PO has moved up, in your last list he was 3rd to the best of my memory|pg|| nt|Walddk2: and Mark 'the flash' Feldman 5th|pg|| nt|rv: Gortheim seems to be a new entrant, PO is legendary P.O Sundelin Swedish veteran|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Rosenberg and Shenkin are contenders for top 5|pg|| nt|rv: what happened to Barnet Shenkin who was permanent entity for many years?|pg|| nt|Walddk2: but not quite there yet|pg|| nt|odysseus69: other expected names have not been mentioned|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Robson|pg|| nt|rv: Roland, anyone broken Shenkin's record for slowest card ever played?|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Alon Birman squeezed into 10th place a few months ago|pg|| pc|c2|pc|h8|pc|hA|pg|| nt|Walddk2: I don't think so, Venky|pg|| pc|cK|pc|s4|pc|c3|pc|c8|pg|| nt|odysseus69: Barnet is something a bit different- on most hands he is fairly quick but when he is slow he is really slow|pg|| nt|rv: 20+mins rite?|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d8|pc|d5|pc|d6|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|d2|pg|| nt|Walddk2: When Michael Rosenberg played with Barnet Shenkin in their Scotland days, Rosenberg was actually quite. He had to be :)|pg|| pc|dT|nt|Walddk2: quite fast|pg|| pc|s2|pc|c7|nt|odysseus69: Michael Rosenberg is a naturally fast player - he is slow on tough deals but dont think he is worth a place|pg|| nt|MarekW: round 2/3 in 50 minutes from now|pg|| nt|odysseus69: thx all|pg|| nt|Walddk2: 22 minutes and 19 second it took Barnet to play a card in a Scottish cup tie many years ago|pg|| nt|rv: a spec mentions interesting incident, he played against Bauke Muller in 1998 and last board Muller was thinking for about 15 mins to play card, director stopped play, its ...|pg|| nt|rv: now 2011 and he has still has to play that card:)|pg|| pc|h3|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s3|pc|s7|pc|s6|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s5|pc|sA|pc|s8|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|c15|st||md|1SQ532HT85D762CQ86,SA97HAJ64DQ93CK75,ST864HKQ932DJ84CA,SKJH7DAKT5CJT9432|sv|n|nt|vugraphpl8: http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: http://b.poznan2011.pl/mxt/frunda1.html|pg|| mb|p|mb|1C|mb|1H|nt|pelu: 2@H with @Hs 4-1 also down 1 in OR|pg|| mb|2S|an|.|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|roswolf: 2@S= REAL @C?|pg|| nt|jbgood: inv. + in @c?|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|pelu: Hi Henk, jon and Geoffrey the spects dont like us - we have 450 and there over 2200 in OR ;(;(;(|pg|| pc|h7|nt|pelu: :(:(:(|pg|| nt|hajru: Yes, shows clubs. X = 4 or 5 @s, 1@s is 6-9, 0-3@s, 2@h is weak with long @s. |pg|| nt|roswolf: OH WELL WE ARE THE QUALITY NOT THE WIDTH:)|pg|| nt|chessmaste: Don't fret you are doing a good job|pg|| nt|hajru: At least, that is how the open team plays it.|pg|| pc|hT|nt|jbgood: quite common these days, actually|pg|| pc|hA|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|dA|pc|d2|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c6|pc|c7|pc|cA|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sK|nt|jbgood: heading for multiple overtricks now - will soon wish he was in 6@c:)|pg|| pc|s5|pc|s7|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c8|pc|c5|pc|h2|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|h3|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d8|pc|d5|pc|d6|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|d7|pg|| mc|12|nt|hajru: Last board for this set, we will be back at 14:00 CEST, that is in 90 minutes from now|pg|| nt|roswolf: We are now on the last board of the set. Thanks to our operator, Michal - Great Job! Our appreciation to all the organisers for ensuring that this fine event is brought to BBO ...|pg|| nt|roswolf: vugraph. Thanks too to my very learned fellow commentators Jon, Michael, Peter and Henk for their company and perceptive comments and to our specs whose contributions keep us on ...|pg|| nt|roswolf: our toes.|pg|| pg|| qx|o16|st||md|2SAJ94HQDJ76CKJ872,SQT62HT53D543CQT5,SK75HA96DKQT2CA64,S83HKJ8742DA98C93|sv|e|nt|Walddk2: Last board now at long last|pg|| mb|p|nt|Walddk2: Thanks to Pawel, our excellent operator in Poznan. Fine job!|pg|| nt|odysseus69: what happened to the 12 tricks he had when we stopped watching|pg|| mb|1N|mb|p|nt|vugraphplE: Thank all|pg|| nt|Walddk2: and to my fellow commentators, Victor, Venky. Marek and Hans|pg|| mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2D|nt|rv: a big thanks to my excellent commentators Roland Wald, Viktor Silverstone, Marek Wojciki and excellent Vugraph operator Pawel|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h7|nt|Walddk2: Next set in about 47 minutes|pg|| nt|Walddk2: Top of the hour unless you live in India|pg|| nt|Walddk2: then it's half past the hour|pg|| nt|rv: this lead could sell this contract|pg|| nt|odysseus69: had to lead heart king- not too obvious|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h3|pc|h6|pg|| nt|odysseus69: over now|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg|| pc|hK|pc|s4|pc|hT|pc|hA|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s3|pc|s9|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s8|nt|Walddk2: Thanks everyone for watching|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s6|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d4|pc|d2|nt|rv: Roland, getting even with me for some of comments earlier about Indian punctuality:)|pg|| pc|d8|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d5|nt|Walddk2: See you a little later we hope|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d9|pg|| pc|dT|pc|h2|pc|sJ|pc|sT|pg|| nt|rv: thanks all, bye:)|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|c5|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c9|pc|cK|pc|cT|pg|| mc|9|nt|Walddk2: Bye for now|pg|| pg|| qx|c16|st||md|2SAJ94HQDJ76CKJ872,SQT62HT53D543CQT5,SK75HA96DKQT2CA64,S83HKJ8742DA98C93|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|nt|blum1956: the heart weakness discovered...|pg|| nt|pelu: also from a spec tx to Michal (operator) he had a hard job from start :)|pg|| nt|hajru: Yes, thanks Michal.|pg|| nt|roswolf: the heart lead is telegraphed against 3nt - can east find the @HK?|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: not so bad|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: :)|pg|| mb|4C|nt|blum1956: The NS probably will prefer 5@c or 4@s|pg|| nt|pelu: nice to find the @H-weakness - but if s over 2@D just bid 3Nt then a snall @H in lead|pg|| nt|hajru: We'll never know|pg|| nt|roswolf: 5@C or 4@S?|pg|| nt|jbgood: 5 @c an interesting contract|pg|| mb|p|mb|5C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|pelu: only for us - not for S :)|pg|| nt|jbgood: must spurn the black finesses and end play W to win?|pg|| nt|blum1956: only the very special plan brings this home|pg|| nt|pelu: a bet? - I know I owe u 1-2 cokes Jon :)|pg|| nt|hajru: The @h lead looks obvious and then west can play @h at every opportunity|pg|| nt|blum1956: you're right Jon|pg|| nt|roswolf: THIS WILL NEED ACCURATE TIMING TO ACHIEVE THAT|pg|| nt|jbgood: ok - all in for a downer:)|pg|| pc|h3|nt|pelu: No Jon u had the winning plan :)|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|hQ|pg|| nt|jbgood: yes - but that may be too much double dummy|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|c5|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c9|pc|cJ|nt|pelu: yes|pg|| pc|cQ|pg|| nt|roswolf: goind down i fear|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h6|pc|hJ|pc|c7|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cT|pc|c6|pc|h2|pg|| nt|pelu: 3Nt in N will win 9 out of 10 times|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|d8|pg|| pc|d2|nt|jbgood: as a spec says: "yes . it will eventually go down. When ou have a 75% line, it's hard to reject it"|pg|| nt|hajru: Yes, who would blame E for leading a small heart after 1N-2C;2D-3N|pg|| nt|blum1956: 12 out of 13 as only the @hK lead may disturb))|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d7|pc|d4|pg|| pc|hK|pc|c8|pc|hT|pc|h9|pg|| mc|10|nt|roswolf: restart in 1hr 20 mins approx - bye for now and see you then:)|pg|| nt|pelu: I remember a Reese story: 2 young experts ask him: how to bid 3NT - we had a long bidding and bid to 5@C - Reese: 1Nt - 3Nt :)|pg|| nt|hajru: Bye all, restart at 14:00|pg|| nt|vugraphpl8: bye seg.2 at 14.00|pg|| nt|jbgood: so bye for now - see you soon|pg|| pg||